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Speaker 2: Now today, Venezuela announcing it will now resume accepting deportation

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Speaker 2: flights from the United States at President Trump's demand. This

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Speaker 2: is the Pentagon continues to defend it strikes and alleged

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Speaker 2: Narco terrorists at sea.

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Speaker 3: I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because

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Speaker 3: the thing was on fire and its exploded.

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Speaker 4: In fire or smoke, you can't see anything.

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Speaker 1: You got digital. This is called the fog of war.

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Speaker 5: The striking question September second off the coast of Trinidad,

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Speaker 5: the first of more than twenty over the past three

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Speaker 5: months on alleged Narco terraces. Those who initially survived that

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Speaker 5: September second strike were later killed in a follow up attack.

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Speaker 6: I frankly think it's absolutely illegal their latest sex when

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Speaker 6: I is, they weren't blowing up the people.

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Speaker 7: They were blowing up the boat.

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Speaker 6: If those darned people were just wouldn't cling to the wreckage,

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Speaker 6: they would be fine.

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Speaker 8: According to a source familiar with the incident, the two

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Speaker 8: survivors climbed back onto the boat after the initial strike.

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Speaker 8: They were believed to be potentially in communication with others

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Speaker 8: and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that, it

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Speaker 8: was determined they were still in the fight and valid targets.

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Speaker 8: A JAG officer was also giving legal advice.

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Speaker 6: This backs up the entire second strike.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I mean, it just doesn't get more crystal clear

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Speaker 9: than that. The mission is take out the boat, stop

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Speaker 9: the drugs, keep this vessel and its cargo for reaching

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Speaker 9: our shore using lethal means, and our amazing military. The

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Speaker 9: heroes of the United States Armedforces did exactly that.

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Speaker 10: Hegsen says.

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Speaker 5: The order to strike the boat again was made by

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Speaker 5: Navy Seal Admiral Frank Bradley, who at the time was

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Speaker 5: leading Joint Special Operations Command. General Keane says the follow

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Speaker 5: up strike was necessary.

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Speaker 11: In this case, the boat and the cargo needed to

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Speaker 11: be destroyed and the terrorists eliminated. And given the fact

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Speaker 11: that terrorists ward eliminated, it's well within that commander's authority

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Speaker 11: to finish and eliminate the mission that he was assigned.

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Speaker 12: This is an administration that's fired, you know, uniform generals,

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Speaker 12: Fense Intelligence Agency. And I think in many ways the

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Speaker 12: uniform military mate helped save us from this president and

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Speaker 12: his laying people like HEGSAP because I think their commitment

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Speaker 12: is to the Constitution and obviously not the Trump and

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Speaker 12: I expect Bradley to adhere to that.

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Speaker 13: If it is found that survivors were actually killed while

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Speaker 13: clinging onto that boat, should Secretary headset Admiral Bradley or

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Speaker 13: others be punished.

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Speaker 14: I think you can find that this is war. I

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Speaker 14: think you're going to find that there's.

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Speaker 2: A very septiveleer to doing exactly what they're doing taking

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Speaker 2: out to those boats, and very soon we're going to

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Speaker 9: Land to President Trump, Secretary Haig Seth, and this entire

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Speaker 9: government are committed to finally using our military to defend

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Speaker 9: our people, our borders, our family, our culture, our history,

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Speaker 9: our heritage, to defend the United States. We're not going

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Speaker 9: off running around the Middle East trying to build the

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Speaker 9: democracies in caves and deserts and in distant sins.

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Speaker 10: That have never known democracy.

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Speaker 9: We're using the military to protect American security, American prosperity,

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Speaker 9: American lives right here where we live.

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Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer says he wants the full video of that

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Speaker 5: September second strike release center Tim Kane just to at

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Speaker 5: our colleague, Bill illusion. Lawmakers intend to file a war

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Speaker 5: powers resolution this week to debate the issue of the

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Speaker 5: US potentially striking Venezuela. Admial Bradley will also be meeting

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Speaker 3: Yes, folks have done, you know, horrible things, and people

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Speaker 3: have committed crimes. But now Presidents Donald Trump singling out

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Speaker 10: It feels like we're in.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen thirties nineteen forties in Germany.

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Speaker 14: General, rich people like deductions, but middle income people were

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Speaker 14: never really afforded deductions, which is very unfair. You borrow

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Speaker 14: money to buy a car, you're allowed to deduct the

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Speaker 14: interest from your income tax. And I think that's going

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Speaker 14: to be one of the most in terms of your industry.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be the biggest thing that

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Speaker 15: This is a victory for affordability and common sense. As

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Speaker 15: the President said, you know, we will be able to

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Speaker 15: offer more affordability on our popular models, and we'll be

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Speaker 15: able to launch new vehicles build in America that are

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Speaker 15: get a chance to choose what they want.

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Speaker 16: The Charlie Kirk Show every day is a battle for

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Speaker 10: Go, all right, welcome back to The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: It is a beautiful day here in sunny Florida. Blake

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Speaker 10: is still at home base in Arizona. I heard the

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Speaker 10: show was amazing yesterday, so congrats, well done. Thank you

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Speaker 10: for hosting instead. You can hear me, right Blake, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 10: I can hear you.

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Speaker 17: Andrewes Tech you thank you very much and I can't

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Speaker 17: wait to join you in Florida.

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Speaker 4: I think I get in tomorrow night.

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Speaker 10: There you go. And we had an eventful day yesterday

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Speaker 10: in New York as well. Obviously, Erica Kirk was at

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Speaker 10: deal book with The New York Times. I actually pre

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Speaker 10: recorded a long for podcasts with Ross Doubtfit of The

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Speaker 10: New York Times as well. So kind of like a

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Speaker 10: New York Times day, sometimes you gotta do it. And obviously,

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Speaker 10: Erica is promoting Charlie's last book, and she's doing it

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Speaker 10: in her husband's stead, very very proud of her. And

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Speaker 10: that is Stop in the Name of God. Everybody, pick

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Speaker 10: it up, check it out, Charlie's last book. It's a

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Speaker 10: really terrible tragic reality that that's his last book. But

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Speaker 10: Erica is pushing forward because it's just it's a beautiful book.

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Speaker 10: It's an important book, and it's all about Charlie's admonition

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Speaker 10: to the world to stop and rest because Charlie found

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Speaker 10: that when he did that, when he instituted that discipline

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Speaker 10: in his life, he was able to accomplish much much

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Speaker 10: more than he was able to before. And frankly, there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of other benefits too. And he goes into

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Speaker 10: it in this book and he justifies it proves it

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Speaker 10: backs up why it's necessary in so many, so many ways.

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Speaker 10: So check that out. Stop in the Name of God

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Speaker 10: coming out next week. So we have a busy week,

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Speaker 10: traveling a lot. But Blake, we had some breaking news

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Speaker 10: just this morning. The FBI has arrested a suspect. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: and the FBI has arrested a suspect in the January

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Speaker 10: fifth pipe bomb planning investigation, and we have some information

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Speaker 10: on this suspect already there, So Blake, why don't you

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Speaker 10: walk through what we know? And then we also are

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Speaker 10: aware that we're goinging to have a one pm Eastern

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Speaker 10: press conference where we'll obviously find out more. And Julie

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Speaker 10: Kelly is coming up at twelve thirty on this show

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Speaker 10: to fill us in on what she has gathered thus far.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, exactly, Andrew, we don't know no too much stuff yet,

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Speaker 17: we do have it reported the name of the suspect.

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Speaker 4: His name is Brian Cole.

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Speaker 17: I have seen reporting in various places that have described

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Speaker 17: him as potentially quote an anarchist, and some people have said, okay,

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Speaker 17: there's a lot of types of anarchism that would definitely

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Speaker 17: make it plausible to explain why you would leave bombs

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Speaker 17: at both the RNC and the DNC. A lot of

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Speaker 17: anarchists are so sort of anti everything, anti all parties,

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Speaker 4: He seems to have a house in northern Virginia. He

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Speaker 17: A pretty nice house, I must say, So that would

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Speaker 17: be that would be interesting interesting, It would be wild

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Speaker 17: if we had a breakthrough on this, just because it's

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Speaker 17: been it's been almost five years. The FBI said that

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Speaker 17: for so long, and that as you know, Andrew drove

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Speaker 17: so much speculation. We had recent speculation it was somebody

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Speaker 17: you remember we talked to Darren Beattie a lot. He

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Speaker 4: It's just been it's been this long running thing.

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Speaker 17: I think that was one of the first shows I

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Speaker 17: was us discussing the J six pipe.

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Speaker 4: Bomber and the ongoing drama around it.

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Speaker 17: So I think we're all, yeah, very interested and excited

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Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly so if we so let's play this out here, Blake.

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Speaker 10: If this person ends up being, as some outlets have

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Speaker 10: or similar ideologies, you mentioned he might be an anarchist.

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Speaker 10: I don't really necessarily see a differentiation between those two

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Speaker 14: And you know.

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Speaker 10: Darren, well, we had him on the show a lot

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Speaker 10: What does that do to our theories of the case.

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Speaker 17: Well, I'm sure we probably talked to Darren or Mike Ben's.

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Speaker 17: identify the pipe bomber, that they had a lot of

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Speaker 17: I remember there was a lot of fixation on how

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Speaker 10: Was gray, it was missing frames, and.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, So what will be very interesting is now that

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Speaker 17: to lay out how did they identify this person, and

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Speaker 17: a very plausible explanation of why there was so many

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Speaker 17: answered my be somewhat unsatisfying. But they have certainly made

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Speaker 17: the superficial showing of this being a serious thing. In

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Speaker 17: twenty twenty three, they raised a reward for the lead

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Speaker 17: for information leading to an arrest from one hundred thousand

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Speaker 17: identify a suspect, and I suspect. If someone had known

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Speaker 4: To the press about it.

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Speaker 17: So I think I'm hopeful this will be a real

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Speaker 17: I would be very happy if it did turn out

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Speaker 10: So the FBI has surrounded a home in Woodbridge, Virginia.

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Speaker 10: It is. It bends credulity, if not breaks it out

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Speaker 18: Terrence Bates. We are working a developing situation involving an

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Speaker 18: expected to happen here within the next thirty minutes, during

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Speaker 18: which we will get much more information, or at least

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Speaker 18: we're expecting to get much more information on this pipe bomber,

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Speaker 18: as well as the circumstances leading to his arrest. We

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Speaker 18: are hearing that he was on the FBI's radar years ago,

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Speaker 18: but just now charges are being brought in This case

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Speaker 18: is being brought after it was covered up apparently under

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Speaker 18: the Biden administration's FBI. Again, this is a developing situation

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Speaker 18: that we're continuing to monitor, and we will take you

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Speaker 18: to the news conference once it happens here on Real

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Speaker 18: America's Voice. In the meantime, President Trump is set to

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Speaker 18: welcome the presidents of Rwanding Congo to the White House today.

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Speaker 18: He's going to solidify a peace agreement between those two countries.

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Speaker 18: You can see there on your screen. The stage is

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Speaker 18: already set for that. The Commander and pieces I've called him,

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Speaker 18: helped broke the agreement that's being signed today. The two

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Speaker 18: countries have been warning for decades. The current agreement involves

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Speaker 18: troop withdrawals, joint security mechanisms, as well as regional economic integration.

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Speaker 18: This is just the latest attempt at peace between the

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Speaker 18: two countries. A deal that was signed back in two

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Speaker 18: thousand and two included provisions for the withdrawal of the

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Speaker 18: Rwanded troops who are currently in Congo and also dismana

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Speaker 18: other armed groups. Still, the fighting continued again. We're expecting

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Speaker 18: this event to happen at any moment. In the moment

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Speaker 18: it does, will also take you there for that. The

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Speaker 18: admiral who oversaw the now infamous September second double strike

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Speaker 18: on a suspected drug boat in the Caribbean is expected

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Speaker 18: to tell lawmakers on Capitol Hill today that the people

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Speaker 18: killed in that strike were legitimate military targets. Admiral Frank

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Speaker 18: Bradley was the head of the Joint Special Operations Command

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Speaker 18: at the time of the attack. He'll testify before the

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Speaker 18: House and Senate Armed Forces Committee starting today. The Chairman

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Speaker 18: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Caine, will

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Speaker 18: join him. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 10: or at Julie Underscore Kelly two on X Julie. A

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Speaker 10: lot of breaking news around this story. We've got a

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Speaker 10: we've got a press conference coming up at one pm Eastern.

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Speaker 10: Tell us what you know and the significance of it.

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Speaker 10: The floor is yours.

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Speaker 19: So I mean, this is one of the biggest unsolved

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Speaker 19: mysteries of January sixth. Who was that individual in the

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Speaker 19: hoodie who is on surveillance video walking around Capitol Hill

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Speaker 19: for an hour the night of January fifth, who allegedly

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Speaker 19: planted those two devices, one outside the headquarters of the

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Speaker 19: DNC where Kamala Harris went on January sixth, and then

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Speaker 19: one outside of the headquarters of the RNC. So it

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Speaker 19: appears that after restarting this cold case inexplicably just dropped

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Speaker 19: by Chris Ray's FBI in early twenty twenty one, following

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Speaker 19: a few months of really intensive investigation andrew all of

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Speaker 19: a sudden, the case was dropped in memory hold for years.

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Speaker 19: Cash Betel Dan Bongino taking the reins of the FBI

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Speaker 19: making this a priority, devoting new resources, new technologies, looking

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Speaker 19: at the old evidence. And now it appears that they

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Speaker 19: have arrested a man, Brian Cole is being reported from Virginia.

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Speaker 19: He is apparently the individual who is seen in that

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Speaker 19: hoodie on the night of January fifth planting those devices.

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Speaker 19: So yes, press conference at one o'clock we will hear

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Speaker 19: a lot more details, But again, this does solve a

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Speaker 19: major unsolved mystery, big open question about the events of

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Speaker 19: January sixth.

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Speaker 10: So you had reported earlier, Julie, that there was at

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Speaker 10: least some reporting about potential ties to Antifa. We're seeing

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Speaker 10: him this individual be described as an anarchist. What do

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Speaker 10: we know about Brian Cole at this point?

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Speaker 7: So nothing.

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Speaker 19: Everything is kind of being pieced together corporate news and

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Speaker 19: their sources. I'm hearing from my sources as well. I

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Speaker 19: think what we learn at one o'clock will be very interesting,

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Speaker 19: to say the least. But if this is true, and

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Speaker 19: I believe he's being reported as thirty years old, that

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Speaker 19: would have made him twenty five twenty six on January

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Speaker 19: sixth of twenty twenty one. Yes, I'm reporting that he's

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Speaker 19: tied to ANTIFA, the anti fascist movement at the time,

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Speaker 19: which you guys, makes a lot of sunse events, right.

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Speaker 19: This would make a lot of sense as to why

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Speaker 19: the Chris Ray FBI, aside from occasionally you know, reposting

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Speaker 19: this video that they had pieced together also that had

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Speaker 19: been manipulated that OG we don't have the cell phone data, OG,

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Speaker 19: we didn't really investigate the people who discovered the devices

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Speaker 19: on January sixth. You know everything we have learned in

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Speaker 19: documents since that point. But if this individual is Antifa,

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Speaker 19: then it makes perfect sense why Chris Ray, who insisted

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Speaker 19: early on that Antifa was not involved in the events

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Speaker 19: of January sixth, why they would have buried this investigation

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Speaker 19: because it would have not only undermined the whole January

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Speaker 19: sixth insurrection that was being built at the time in

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Speaker 19: early twenty twenty one, but completely contradict Chris Ray's insistence

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Speaker 19: without evidence before he could even know who was at

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Speaker 19: the capitol, his insistence early on that Antifa did not

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Speaker 19: play a role in what happened on January sixth.

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Speaker 10: Fascinating. I had forgotten that little detail about Christopher Ray's

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Speaker 10: insistence that Antifa was not involved. Now I'm going to

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Speaker 10: play this clip and it is I believe from December

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Speaker 10: of twenty twenty four, and it's the Inspector General's report

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Speaker 10: that it basically confirmed that there were confidential sources embedded

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Speaker 10: within the crowd. And then I'm going to link it

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Speaker 10: back to some of the behavior of the FBI since

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Speaker 10: play cut three twenty two.

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Speaker 13: There were three confidential human sources tasked by the Bureau

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Speaker 13: to be in the crowd on January sixth to specifically

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Speaker 13: watch what the report states is concerns over domestic terrorism.

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Speaker 13: Out of those three, Sandra and John one enter the capital,

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Speaker 13: two others entered a restricted area. The report says the

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Speaker 13: FBI did not encourage or authorize any sources to go

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Speaker 13: into the building or a restricted area. In addition to

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Speaker 13: the three confidential human sources, the FBI told there were

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Speaker 13: twenty three that were there on their.

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Speaker 10: Own, So we had a total of twenty six confidential

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Speaker 10: sources you have. It seems as though FBI director former

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Speaker 10: FBI Director Ray going out of his way to say

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Speaker 10: that Antifa was not involved, and yet here we have

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Speaker 10: what could be a connection to somebody, you know, with

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Speaker 10: ties to Antifa. The question then becomes, why did they

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Speaker 10: not seemingly why did they close the door on that

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Speaker 10: aspect of these ties to Antifa? But secondly, why did

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Speaker 10: the Democrats not politically exploit the fact that the sitting

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Speaker 10: vice president of the United States almost got blown up

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Speaker 10: by a pipe boone?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 19: So, I mean, Andrew, this is something that I've always

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Speaker 19: found so interesting is that Kamala Harris. We don't know

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Speaker 19: why She left the capital shortly after eleven o'clock eleven

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Speaker 19: fifteen on January sixth and went to DNC headquarters. We

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Speaker 19: never knew why. Why was she leaving the capital. She

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Speaker 19: was a sitting US Senator at the time, recall from California.

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Speaker 19: She was going to be part of the proceedings that day,

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Speaker 19: also the historic you know, history making incoming first black

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Speaker 19: female vice president. So why would she leave there where

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Speaker 19: all the reporters are and everyone's there swooning over her

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Speaker 19: to go to the DNC headquarters. She never talked about why,

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Speaker 19: and she certainly never talks about her near death or

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Speaker 19: her nearer brush with death assassination at the hands of

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Speaker 19: this MAGA bomber, which is something we were also told.

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Speaker 19: In her book, she only addresses the pipe bombs once

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Speaker 19: in like two sentences and says how she was there

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Speaker 19: calling supporters or donors, thanking them for their support, which

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Speaker 19: also is odd. But you would think she would have

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Speaker 19: devoted an entire chapter to, you know, her trauma in

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Speaker 19: surviving this near brush with death. As I said from

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Speaker 19: this device that was sitting outside the DNC, that her

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Speaker 19: detail miss that two rounds of bomb snip and canine

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Speaker 19: units missed as well, DC Metro police missed, Capitol Hill

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Speaker 19: Police missed. Because if we're if this is correct, that

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Speaker 19: the device was set the night before, it would have

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Speaker 19: been sitting there outside the DNC for seventeen hours and

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Speaker 19: no one detected it. So I do want to emphasize

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Speaker 19: even though there is this individual in custody allegedly who

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Speaker 19: planted those devices that night, still we're still going to

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Speaker 19: have a lot of questions. Are there ties between him

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Speaker 19: and say the individual the woman who found the device

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Speaker 19: outside the RNC right at twelve forty on that day,

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Speaker 19: she also was tied to law enforcement? What about the

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Speaker 19: idea outside of the DNC that everyone including the Secret

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Speaker 19: Service missed this device sitting outside underneath the bush in

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Speaker 19: between two benches, right next to the driveway where police

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Speaker 19: vehicles were in and out for hours before that device

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Speaker 19: was allegedly was discovered it about one oh five one

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Speaker 19: oh seven on January sixth. So we're still going to

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Speaker 19: figure out how to piece this together, if there is

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Speaker 19: a tie between this individual the individuals who discovered it,

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Speaker 19: or if those devices that were planted were really the

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Speaker 19: ones that were found. Because I've always contended that I

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Speaker 19: thought those devices were planted right before they were found

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Speaker 19: that day, So I'm keeping an open mind to see

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Speaker 19: what the FBI is going to say at one o'clock.

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Speaker 19: But this, this doesn't solve the pipe bomb mystery, let's

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Speaker 19: put it that way. But it does add a very

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Speaker 19: important puzzle piece to trying to figure out what exactly happened.

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Speaker 10: And I find this interesting too, and I brought this

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Speaker 10: up with Blake, and Blake please feel free to jump

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Speaker 10: in here, but I find it interesting that we had this.

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Speaker 10: But you know the story from about about a month

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Speaker 10: ago where we were talking about Gate signature analysis, you know,

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Speaker 10: ninety six percent match, and I'm assuming that that must

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Speaker 10: have caused quite an uproar within the FBI, and then

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Speaker 10: within a month we get this arrest. You sort of

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Speaker 10: wonder what was playing on behind the scenes as your

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Speaker 10: reporting indicated that this. Maybe that initial story accelerated the

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Speaker 10: pace at which this investigation was playing out, or is

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Speaker 10: there something else we don't know?

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Speaker 19: I don't know. I mean I was on your show,

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Speaker 19: I think the day after two days after that Blaze

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Speaker 19: report dropped. I thought it was very sketchy, using this

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Speaker 19: Gate analysis that was never published, using video samples, that

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Speaker 19: also were never published, so that's also going to be interesting.

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Speaker 19: Was this report intended to undermine the leadership of the FBI,

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Speaker 19: which we know that it was because the people who

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Speaker 19: Cash Fatala, anti Dan Bongino influencers and reporters. Was it

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Speaker 19: doing what we're seeing now, which is, oh, well, this

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Speaker 19: know from my own sourcing that's not true. I mean,

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Speaker 19: as soon as Cash and Dan, especially Dan who covered

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Speaker 19: a show a lot talking about it, this was a priority.

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Speaker 19: But you're taking a cold case that was years old,

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Speaker 19: also trying to work with whatever has been left over

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Speaker 19: from the Chris Ray FBI probably destroyed evidence, hidden evidence.

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Speaker 19: Maybe there was something in burn bags. Who knows. As

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Speaker 19: I always said, Chris Ray didn't leave evidence to things

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Speaker 19: that we want to find out. He didn't leave that

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Speaker 19: in little neat folders on Cash Bettel's desk.

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Speaker 10: So they've had to dig around.

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Speaker 20: For a lot.

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Speaker 19: Is this part of it? But I don't think I

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Speaker 19: can save a certainty that that Blaze bomb report did

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Speaker 19: not hasten or accelerate this investigation or this arrest today.

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Speaker 19: This has been something that's been in the works for months,

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Speaker 19: a priority by both Cash and Dan, and now I

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Speaker 19: think a lot of people are going to have egg

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Speaker 19: on their face because my understanding is the evidence against

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Speaker 19: the Suss effect is extremely strong.

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Speaker 10: Okay, well we will have to take you out your

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Speaker 10: word on that. Julie, thank you for your quick reporting,

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Speaker 10: quick response time here. I know you've had a busy

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Speaker 10: morning because this has been a story you've been on

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Speaker 10: since since the very beginning. You, Darren Beattie, deserve a

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Speaker 10: lot of credit for keeping this front and center in

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Speaker 10: our consciousness. So thank you so much. Julie, Kelly Declassified,

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Speaker 10: Give her a follow, She's a great follow. I check

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Speaker 19: So thank you, Julie, Thanks Thedor, Thanks guys absolutely.

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Speaker 10: I want to tell you, guys about Alan Jackson, our

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back, relentless in spirit.

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Speaker 16: You're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Blake.

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Speaker 10: You didn't chime in on that last segment. Make sure

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Speaker 10: you have a chance to get in before we change

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Speaker 10: the subject here. What do you make of any of

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Speaker 10: that reporting, that news from Julie before we before we

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Speaker 10: hear from them and the press.

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Speaker 4: Co Yeah, I guess, I guess.

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Speaker 17: I just I don't think we should downplay It's as

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Speaker 17: she said, it's it is a puzzle piece if we've

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Speaker 17: arrested a suspect.

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Speaker 4: But it's a pretty big puzzle piece. I think.

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Speaker 17: It is one of those things. It's a lot like

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Speaker 17: other news stories were because there was such this there

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Speaker 17: was just this mystery at the heart of it for

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Speaker 17: so long. It just sucked in so much speculation, so

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Speaker 17: many theories, And you know how I am on a

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Speaker 17: lot of things. I like us to let's dial back.

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Speaker 17: Let's remember what we actually know for sure. And what

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Speaker 17: we know for sure is we have these pipe bombs,

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Speaker 17: and it was of uncertain origin, and it was always

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Speaker 17: possible it was just going to be a complete freak coincidence.

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Speaker 17: It happened the same day as everything that went down

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Speaker 17: at the Capitol.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I mean it could have just been a frequence.

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Speaker 10: I mean, listen, you have thousands and thousands, thousands of

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Speaker 10: people expected in DC, and there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 10: of people to come out for that. I mean, there

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Speaker 10: just is. You're basically putting a sign out saying welcome.

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Speaker 10: We're going to talk about Venezuela and Senator Mike Mark

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Speaker 10: Warner in just a second. All right, welcome back to

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Speaker 10: the Charlie Kirk Show. So before the hour goes, this

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Speaker 10: is something Blake and I were both like, we have

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Speaker 10: to get to we had this breaking news come up

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Speaker 10: up upon us. But candidly we could talk about this

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Speaker 10: clip a lot. We can with this clib Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 10: So let's go ahead and play this. This is Senator Warner,

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Speaker 10: and I just can't say how wild that they are

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Speaker 10: saying these things out loud and doing it in a

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Speaker 10: respectable way on MSM Legacy media and getting away with it.

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Speaker 10: Let's go ahead and play cut three or four.

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Speaker 12: I think in many ways the uniform military mate helped

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Speaker 12: save us from this president and his laying people like

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Speaker 12: hag Sam because I think their commitment is to the

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Speaker 12: Constitution and obviously not to Trump, and I expect Bradley

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Speaker 12: to adhere to that.

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Speaker 17: It's it's frustrating. It's it's one of the we discussed

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Speaker 17: this with the first clip. What's so dangerous about this

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Speaker 17: is everything they say. You can always have plausible deniability.

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Speaker 17: You can say they're not directly advocating these things, and

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Speaker 17: we would of course get frustrated when they would try

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Speaker 17: to abuse laws in our direction to try to take

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Speaker 17: you know, debatable statements. But it is incredibly reckless behavior.

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Speaker 17: The president is the commander in chief of the armed forces.

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Speaker 17: He calls the shots. And when you are sowing discord

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Speaker 17: in this way where you're just coming out and like

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Speaker 17: laying out here, oh man, we really think, we think

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Speaker 17: these uniformed service members could really help us prevent bad

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Speaker 17: things from this administration. There laying the groundwork for a

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Speaker 17: constitutional crisis. They are, in my opinion, their intent is clear,

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Speaker 17: whether they're calling for an instruction or not. They clearly

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Speaker 17: think that would be a politically useful thing. And that's

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Speaker 17: an incredibly selfish behavior to do.

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Speaker 4: It's an incredibly.

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Speaker 17: Destructive behavior to do because at that point you practically

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Speaker 17: don't have a country. There are a lot of countries,

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Speaker 17: a lot of countries in Latin America that a lot

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Speaker 17: of countries around the world that have just become for

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Speaker 17: decades dysfunctional because they have a military that decides it

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Speaker 17: just calls the shots, independent of its.

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Speaker 4: Actual elected leadership.

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Speaker 17: And Donald Trump is the actual elected leadership of the

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Speaker 17: United States military. You know, we're talking about Venezuela here too.

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Speaker 17: Before he became the head of his country, you Goshavez,

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Speaker 17: he tried to take over through the old fashioned military coupdetaway.

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Speaker 4: That is what happens in countries that are breaking down.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, so let's put together. They're the the

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Speaker 10: step by step process here, just for the sake of

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Speaker 10: the audience, here, Blake, We've got. Step one is release

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Speaker 10: a video by the Seditious six saying please military, you know,

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Speaker 10: refuse to obey what they said was illegal orders. But

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Speaker 10: who what's an illegal order? What are they even mentioning?

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Speaker 10: What are they And they say, oh, we don't, we're

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Speaker 10: trying to head this off at the past. We're just

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Speaker 10: we're just reminding them of their duty. So they say,

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Speaker 10: please ignore these orders. Stay at Step two, go on

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Speaker 10: a media tour when you get called out and play

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Speaker 10: the victim. Step three is, oh, whoops. Here's a Washington

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Speaker 10: Post anonymously sourced article that suggests that Secretary of War

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Speaker 10: Pete Hegseth has is guilty of committing war crimes by

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Speaker 10: bombing these narco terrists boats in the Caribbean. And then

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Speaker 10: here we go. Now they're saying step five, step four, say, oh,

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Speaker 10: you might get prosecuted if you do illegal things. And

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Speaker 10: we're really this, this is a really terrible place to

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Speaker 10: be putting our our armed uniform military personnel and such

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Speaker 10: a it's such a bind that it shouldn't be up

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Speaker 10: to them. This president is such a mean, terrible president.

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Speaker 10: Secretary of hex Sith has to go. And now they're

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Speaker 10: saying that, oh, well, guess what the military could save us.

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Speaker 10: So you are seeding the ground for a military coupdata,

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Speaker 10: as you said, a military junta. And this is something

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Speaker 10: we've seen in the Blake. What's funny about this is

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Speaker 10: you you have been the most loud voice in the

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Speaker 10: about the Third worldization of the United States government, of

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Speaker 10: the of our of our customs and our norms, of

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Speaker 10: our institutions, and we all sort of thought, you know what,

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Speaker 10: they're not going to touch the military. They can't. There's

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Speaker 10: too much discipline, there's too much. There's too much tradition

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Speaker 10: and heritage. There's just too much there. They can't overtake that,

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Speaker 10: especially with the type of people go in the military,

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Speaker 10: and here they are going straight for it, and it

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Speaker 10: almost feels like a game of political chicken, Like they're

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Speaker 10: like Mark Kelly, Senator Warner. Now they're daring people to

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Speaker 10: restore the chain of command, which is the president, the

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Speaker 10: States to command the armed forces. It's a game of chicken.

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Speaker 10: They're saying, we come at us, I dare you to

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Speaker 17: And that's it is one of those frustrating things because

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Speaker 17: I've argued, don't I think it probably would be a mistake,

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Speaker 17: certainly for Mark Kelly, who's the one they've made thrown

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Speaker 17: the most signals at.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be very dicey. We have the best.

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Speaker 17: Example to go off of, which is the attempted The

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Speaker 17: attempt to imprison Donald Trump in twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 17: twenty twenty four paved the way for him to return

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Speaker 17: to the White House. It was one of the most

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Speaker 17: important factors trying to imprison your opponents has a lot

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Speaker 17: of downsides to it, and I think they may even

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Speaker 17: be realizing that they may be trying to provoke the

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Speaker 17: President into making a mistake, and I still lean that way.

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Speaker 17: But I still think what they're doing is incredibly reckless,

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Speaker 17: incredibly harmful, incredibly bad for the country.

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Speaker 4: And we're going to have to keep saying so. And

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Speaker 4: we'll be back after the break.

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Speaker 18: To welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 18: I'm Terrence Bates. As we begin to close out twenty

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Speaker 18: twenty five and look towards twenty twenty six, many investors

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Speaker 18: and economists alike are optimistic the President Trump's economic policies

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Speaker 18: will begin to show dividends in the first and second

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Speaker 18: quarters of the coming year. That means it's time to

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Speaker 18: position yourself to be able to profit from whatever the

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Speaker 18: markets and the economy bring. My next guest will tell

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Speaker 18: you that gold is a great hedge no matter what happens.

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Speaker 18: But he's also here to share his thoughts on everything

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Speaker 18: from the future of the FED to crypto's recent decline.

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Speaker 18: Philip Patrick's a precious metal specialist with the Birch Gold Group.

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Speaker 18: Joining me. Philip always good to see.

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Speaker 14: You same yead Terrence. Thank you having me.

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Speaker 18: So let's start with crypto. December sar a pretty sharp,

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Speaker 18: sharp risk off move. Crypto in particular, of course, has

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Speaker 18: taken a beating. What is going on with crypto?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's been extremely volatile upward and downward swings. We've

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Speaker 14: seen nearly one billion dollars in leverage crypto bets wiped

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Speaker 14: out over the last forty eight hours. That's on top

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Speaker 14: of the nineteen billion dollar liquidation cascade we saw earlier

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Speaker 14: in October.

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Speaker 21: Bitcoin at this point is down around ten percent year

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Speaker 21: to date. The lower ald tier coins, the bottom half

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Speaker 21: of the top one hundred, they're down about seventy percent. Now,

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Speaker 21: I don't think this is a random sell off. I

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Speaker 21: think this is the unwinding of hidden leverage, the built

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Speaker 21: up over the years when everything was rallying. Traders now,

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Speaker 21: I think, are finally admitting that they don't know how

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Speaker 21: much leverage is really in the financial system because the

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Speaker 21: exchanges don't disclose that data. What we do know is

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Speaker 21: about four point six billion dollars has abandoned bitcoin over

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Speaker 21: the last week or so. Simply put, when liquidity tightens,

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Speaker 21: it's the most speculative assets that tend to get hit First.

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Speaker 18: You talked about liquidity tightening, What exactly does that mean?

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Speaker 18: Break that down for a Norvis investor like myself.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, Look, it's what we've been talking about in broad

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Speaker 21: terms for quite a while now, monetary uncertainty. Liquidity in

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Speaker 21: the financial world generally means is leverage readily and cheaply available.

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Speaker 14: When it is.

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Speaker 21: Traders hedge funds, they borrow freely and they make big

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Speaker 21: bets right now, though they don't really know what to

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Speaker 21: expect from the Fed. Every FED official has their own

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Speaker 21: agenda given conflicting advice. One day, we think the Fed's

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Speaker 21: going to cut rates again, next day we think they don't.

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Speaker 21: The odds swung over the last week from a thirty

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Speaker 21: percent chance to a rate cut to over seventy five

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Speaker 21: percent now happened in about a seven day period. And

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Speaker 21: at the same time, obviously, the US government is now

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Speaker 21: paying one point eight trillion dollars a year in interest

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Speaker 21: on the national debt, which means Washington needs lower rates

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Speaker 21: to stay on top of refinancing cost, but the FED

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Speaker 21: meet higher rates to control inflation.

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Speaker 14: So it's a very tough situation.

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Speaker 21: But I think all of these selloffs ultimately have the

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Speaker 21: same root cause.

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Speaker 14: It's a systemic leverage.

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Speaker 21: Problem showing up where liquidity is thinnest, and I think

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Speaker 21: we're starting to see that volatility ripple through.

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Speaker 18: I hear you loud and clear about the fact that

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Speaker 18: no one really knows what the Fed's ultimately going to

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Speaker 18: do playing a role in all of this. But I

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Speaker 18: would imagine the fact that we don't necessarily know who's

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Speaker 18: going to be leading the FED in the next six months,

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Speaker 18: that's also got to play a role.

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Speaker 14: It absolutely does.

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Speaker 21: Will the next FED chair support lower rates to relieve

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Speaker 21: the debt burden, or they're going to prioritize inflation control

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Speaker 21: at the cost of slowing the economy. Investors are basically

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Speaker 21: at this point trading off two competing realities. As I

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Speaker 21: said before, Washington can't afford higher rates, but the Fed

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Speaker 21: can't justify big cuts without risking another inflation thearer until

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Speaker 21: the decision is fully known and the policy direction becomes

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Speaker 21: a little more clear. Like I said, I expect to

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Speaker 21: see a little bit more volatility in every corner of

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Speaker 21: the financial sector.

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Speaker 18: And Philip in forty seconds, that brings us back to

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Speaker 18: gold being a perfect heedge yeah.

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, Look, we're seeing it in its performance. Gold is

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Speaker 22: up significantly this year, silver as well. But it's not

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Speaker 22: just during tough times or times of volatility. Let's not

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Speaker 22: forget gold did very well during Trump's first term and

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Speaker 22: that was an a rosier picture than what he inherited

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Speaker 22: this time around. So Brasher's medals still a safe haven,

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Speaker 22: still performing in predictions are they continue to grow.

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Speaker 18: And if you want more information, just go to the

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Speaker 18: site there at the bottom of your screen. Phillip Patrick

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Speaker 18: with the Birch Gold Group joining us.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome back to hour two of The Charlie

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Speaker 10: Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Covid, executive producer of this fine show,

944
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Speaker 10: joined by as always Blake Neff in our home studio

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Speaker 10: back in Arizona, and we are joined this hour at

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Speaker 10: the top of it by Sean Davis, CEO and co

947
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Speaker 10: founder of The Federalist. You can find him on exit.

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Speaker 10: Sean M. Dave da V. You just didn't go the

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Speaker 10: whole way and just say, Shawn M. Davis, I just

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Speaker 10: realized this the what's with the short next end? Uh huh?

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Speaker 10: You're muted? Sean?

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Speaker 1: Uh oh?

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Speaker 10: I can hear you?

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Speaker 7: Can you hear me.

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Speaker 4: Now we got him excellent.

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Speaker 20: Okay, some imposters squatted on my name, so it wasn't

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Speaker 20: available totally.

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Speaker 10: I'm gonna work on this for you. I'm gonna work

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Speaker 10: on this for you. I had to go through the

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Speaker 10: same thing. I had to go through the same thing

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Speaker 10: recently because everybody was, you know, asking, you know, why

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Speaker 10: do you have this weird I just had this like

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Speaker 10: goofball old handle, you know, from I think twenty eleven

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Speaker 10: or something like that, and I had to update it

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Speaker 10: so people will find me anyway. I'm gonna help you

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Speaker 10: with this, Sean Davis. So we've got really three topics,

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Speaker 10: and there is a press conference that we are awaiting

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Speaker 10: on this pipe bombing arrest that's been made in Virginia.

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Speaker 10: But we have three topics to get to and I

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Speaker 10: think they are all equally as important. So we got

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Speaker 10: this Tennessee race. You are a Tennessee local there. I

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Speaker 10: don't know if she was. I don't know if this

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Speaker 10: race Tennessee seven is your district, Sean? Is that your

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Speaker 10: actual district? It is? Yeah? Okay, what do you make

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Speaker 10: of the outcome here? Trump won it by a margin

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Speaker 10: to twenty two. We had VANEPS win it by plus nine.

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Speaker 10: A lot of people are taking that one of two ways.

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Speaker 10: What is the big takeaway that the base needs to

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Speaker 10: hear right now? Sean Davis.

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Speaker 20: So the word that I keep hearing from people around

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Speaker 20: here about that race is relief. It was a close

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Speaker 20: race until about two weeks ago. I think it was

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Speaker 20: within the margin of error. Then there was a big

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Speaker 20: national push to expose this Looney Tunes woman Apton Bane

985
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Speaker 20: is a total left wing communist kouk who hated the city,

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Speaker 20: hate the people who live here, hate the state. And

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Speaker 20: that was a top down effort from Trump all the

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Speaker 20: way down. On the Monday before the election, there was

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Speaker 20: a massive get out to vote rally with every state

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Speaker 20: wide elected Republican in Tennessee. And I think that last

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Speaker 20: minute charged, that last minute push to define her and

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Speaker 20: get out the vote really made a difference. So in

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Speaker 20: looking at the race, I don't think it was a

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Speaker 20: massive victory, or do I think it was a doomsday warning.

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Speaker 20: I think it is a sign that Republicans have a

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Speaker 20: lot that they still need to do between now and

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Speaker 20: no Member. You'll hear some people say that this is

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Speaker 20: an R plus ten district. I think that's what the

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Speaker 20: cook political or partisan voter index says that I don't care.

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Speaker 20: That's not it. This is a plus twenty our district.

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Speaker 20: Mark Green won the same district by twenty two in

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Speaker 20: twenty two. Trump won it by twenty two. That should

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Speaker 20: be what people are winning by as Republicans here. So

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Speaker 20: a nine point victory is a sign that we have

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Speaker 20: a lot of work to do. It's not a sign

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Speaker 20: of triumphalism. Yay, we won. We have nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 20: Nor is it a sign of doomerism that we're screwed.

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Speaker 20: We've got another eleven months to the election, and Republicans

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Speaker 20: have to get to work putting together a message in

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Speaker 20: an agenda that proves that they're acting on the things

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Speaker 20: that people want him to do.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, Blake, I feel free to chime in here.

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Speaker 10: I think that a couple things happen. We are proving

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Speaker 10: that we are abysmal at off your elections. We just

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Speaker 10: we just are. And we could try and identify what

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Speaker 10: the source of that terrible performance is. Whether it's where

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Speaker 10: a low prop party, whether it's our GTV uh is

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Speaker 10: not what it needs to be, which is which is

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Speaker 10: a fact. It's not even debatable at this point now

1020
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Speaker 10: turning point action. We have a massive get out the

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Speaker 10: vote uh program called Chase the Vote. We do that

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Speaker 10: in specific areas. We're not active with paid staff or

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Speaker 10: any huge effort. In Tennessee. We simply have to choose

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Speaker 10: our our battles there and we have to deploy resources

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Speaker 10: in a prudent way. And that is not where we're active.

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Speaker 10: But there is local GOP there r NC groups on

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Speaker 10: the ground. As you said, they got activated late. But

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Speaker 10: here's the other thing that I will say, the second

1029
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Speaker 10: piece of this. And you know Bannon called me up.

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Speaker 17: Or oh oh we lost Andrew all right, Sean, But

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Speaker 17: uh no, we were We're just talking about, yeah, the

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Speaker 17: Tennessee thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what what Sean? You told us? What do you

1034
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Speaker 4: think the.

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Speaker 17: Biggest driver of why we frankly are struggling in some

1036
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Speaker 17: of these off year lower prop elections compared to I

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Speaker 17: feel when I was a young adult, the GP was

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Speaker 17: seen as stronger in some of those off elections.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: I think the main reason is that outside of Trump,

1041
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Speaker 20: the Republican Party is kind of having an identity crisis.

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Speaker 20: People love Trump, kind of low prop voters who aren't

1043
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Speaker 20: traditionally identified with either party they like Trump. He has energy,

1044
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Speaker 20: he has a vision, he has an agenda. Everyone understands

1045
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Speaker 20: what Donald Trump believes. Whether they love him or hate him,

1046
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Speaker 20: everyone knows what he believes. I don't know if you

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Speaker 20: can say that about the Republican Party apart from Trump.

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Speaker 20: And it's the Republican Party apart from Trump that is

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Speaker 20: always on the ballot in off year elections. Yes, Trump

1050
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Speaker 20: is there. He's able to do get out the vote,

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Speaker 20: he's able to do rallies, but his name not being

1052
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Speaker 20: on the ballot makes a big difference. And so I

1053
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Speaker 20: think the GOP is really having an identity crisis that's

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Speaker 20: driven by a lot of the old establishment people who've

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Speaker 20: been in office for twenty or thirty years, still wanting

1056
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Speaker 20: to take the party back to two thousand and two

1057
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Speaker 20: or two thousand and three, the heady days of the

1058
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Speaker 20: Iraq War and GOP corporatism, and they don't really like

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Speaker 20: this new Maga Trump. They can't really come out and

1060
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Speaker 20: say that, They can't say that they don't like the

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Speaker 20: Maga agenda, so they kind of just have to like

1062
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Speaker 20: sit back and quietly stifle it while pretending they're doing

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Speaker 20: good things. And what you end up with there as

1064
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Speaker 20: a party that just looks completely scrotic and kind of neutered,

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Speaker 20: and that's a hard party to get people to jazzed

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Speaker 20: up to vote for in an off year. So that's

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Speaker 20: my take.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we have Yeah, there we do.

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Speaker 17: But as I was thinking, an aspect of this is

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Speaker 17: also it is that there's an old guard that really

1071
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Speaker 17: does wish to rewind before Trump. But I think it's

1072
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Speaker 17: also the case Trump himself does have this special gravity

1073
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Speaker 17: around him.

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Speaker 4: He does make the entire world obsessed with him.

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Speaker 17: Everything in American politics has revolved around him since twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 17: He has not been shy about redefining the Republican Party

1077
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Speaker 17: around his personal brand as personal identity, and that as upsides,

1078
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Speaker 17: he really does whip people up the way no one

1079
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Speaker 17: else can. But we see the downside, which is without him,

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Speaker 17: there is that void of enthusiasm.

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Speaker 10: Well yeah, and I completely agree with that, Blake, And

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Speaker 10: sorry for the tech troubles here. You never know when

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Speaker 10: you're on the road, but yeah, I think you know

1084
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Speaker 10: we are. There's doubt that we are at a nator

1085
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Speaker 10: in the enthusiasm levels the summer, a lot of the infighting,

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Speaker 10: there's just no doubt, right, and again we have this

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Speaker 10: issue with off cycle elections. Now President Trump has pivoted,

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Speaker 10: the administration has pivoted. You're starting to hear a lot

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Speaker 10: more about the affordability crisis. You're starting to hear a

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Speaker 10: lot more about plans and creative ideas to address housing.

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Speaker 10: And most importantly is what I would say that, yeah,

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Speaker 10: he has a gravitational poll. He defines all of politics,

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00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 10: not just Republican politics, but left and right in this country.

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Speaker 10: And but you saw this third world immigration moratorium take effect,

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Speaker 10: and if you talk to polsters like Rich Barris, he

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Speaker 10: and I were communicating on this, there was a jump

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Speaker 10: massively we talked about on the show on enthusiasm for

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Speaker 10: the base Republican voters. And so when he's polling the

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Speaker 10: third world immigration moratorium, which is a core component of

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Speaker 10: core plank of the Maga movement of the Populos Right

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Speaker 10: movement is to get our immigration house in order, you

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Speaker 10: saw a jump immediately in the enthusiasm for voters. Rich's contention,

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Speaker 10: and this was my prediction was that this race would

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Speaker 10: have been even closer had President Trump not come out

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Speaker 10: with that moratorium following the ambush assassination. And you know

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Speaker 10: nearly two of the National guardsmen in just blocks away

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Speaker 10: from the White House. Had he not come out with

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Speaker 10: something bold and unapologetic, we would have seen an even

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Speaker 10: closer race. You have to give voters something to get

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Speaker 10: enthusiastic about when you have low propensity party like we do.

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Speaker 10: And obviously it's a mix, but there is now more

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Speaker 10: low props in our movement than there were before Donald Trump.

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Speaker 10: There's just no doubt when you have a low prop party,

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Speaker 10: you have to increase enthusiasm, you have to increase attention.

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Speaker 10: And that's ultimately to Sean's point, In the last final

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Speaker 10: run up to this, we finally got on the ball,

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Speaker 10: National Republican apparatus, got engaged, we started messaging on it,

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Speaker 10: and then you had this moratorium boom nine points. Is

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Speaker 10: it still too close, yes? Absolutely? Is it still a

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Speaker 10: warning yes? Is it triumphalism? No, absolutely not. But at

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Speaker 10: least at least we saw an eight nine point victory

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Speaker 10: in what we were seeing could have been within the

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Speaker 10: margin of air before that. So I think what we

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Speaker 10: need to do is we need to make sure we're

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Speaker 10: giving voters what they want. That's ultimately what the lesson

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Speaker 10: is here.

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Speaker 20: And yeah, can I say someone on that immigration point there. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: I think it's important to tackle immigration not just as

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Speaker 20: a standalone issue, because it's part of a much road

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Speaker 20: or sense that we're losing our country. We can't afford

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Speaker 20: to buy homes, we can't find jobs, stuff doesn't work anymore.

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Speaker 20: So it's not just oh, we don't like immigrants, they

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Speaker 20: need to go home. That's not the case. It's that

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Speaker 20: people feel the sense that they can't do things in

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Speaker 20: their country that they believe they should be allowed to.

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Speaker 20: That the American dream is just being whittled away and

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Speaker 20: eroded away, and immigration is a big part of that.

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Speaker 20: When people think they can't get ahead even when they

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Speaker 20: follow the rules, that they'll never be able to buy

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Speaker 20: a house, that they'll never pay down their college debt,

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Speaker 20: that they'll never get a good job, that they'll never

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Speaker 20: be able to raise their family on one income, that

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Speaker 20: is where the immigration thing plays in. And so I

1144
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Speaker 20: think it's really important for Republicans to put that in

1145
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Speaker 20: the context of rebuilding the American dream and restoring the

1146
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Speaker 20: American dream for Americans.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Jean, that's such a good point, but just twenty

1148
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Speaker 10: seconds to break here. But when people equate the immigration

1149
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Speaker 10: desires of the base of Magabase and they equate it

1150
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Speaker 10: with xenophobia or bigotry or racism. It couldn't be further

1151
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Speaker 10: from the truth, and we really need to keep hammering

1152
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Speaker 10: that home. Sean Davis will be right back in about

1153
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Speaker 10: three minutes.

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Speaker 16: This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the

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Speaker 16: Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 10: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I

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Speaker 10: student loans. So these are distinct and different from the

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Speaker 10: federal student loans, which are an abomination and they have

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Speaker 10: probably caused more inflation in higher education than anything else.

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Speaker 10: Blank checks from the government underwritten by the taxpayers not

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Speaker 10: a good idea, but these are private student loans. If

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Speaker 10: you have private student loan debt and they're labeled as

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Speaker 10: distressed or defaulted that others won't touch, you need to

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Speaker 10: distressed private student loans in the United States. And what

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Speaker 10: ry reefi does is they tailor a solution to each loan,

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Speaker 10: to each borrowers specific situation. You will not be calling

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Speaker 10: every six months up to twelve times without penalty. And

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Speaker 10: they don't care about what your credit score is, so

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Speaker 10: there's no excuse not to do this. It may not

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Speaker 10: be available in all fifty states, but it's if it's

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Speaker 10: available in yours, you need to reach out get some

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Speaker 10: solutions to your problems. Yrefight dot comyrefi dot com eight

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Speaker 10: eight eight y Refight thirty four more with Sean Davis

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Speaker 10: in just a few seconds. All right, welcome back. I

1182
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Speaker 10: uh was talking with Sean prepping for this segment today

1183
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Speaker 10: and he really wanted to hit the Lane Kiffin story

1184
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Speaker 10: out of the sec which was fun because the other

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Speaker 10: gentleman with amazing hair on this screen right now also

1186
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 10: has been begging to hit this story. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 10: throw it to Blake first and say, Blake, set the set,

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Speaker 10: the table, and then and then Sean, you tell us

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Speaker 10: why this is important.

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Speaker 17: Well, we know, we know Charlie was a big Oregon

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Speaker 17: Ducks fan. I have the I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 17: know it's name, Ducky the Duck. I'm just gonna call

1193
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Speaker 17: it that we have that mascot here. He loved following

1194
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Speaker 17: college football. He would have actually been all over this.

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Speaker 17: We would have definitely been talking about it with him. Yes,

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Speaker 17: because a lot of news happened over the weekend about uh,

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Speaker 17: you know, we had the attack in DC, we had

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Speaker 17: the Somali story, we had this instruction. But for a

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Speaker 17: normal Middle American, it's quite possible. Their biggest story for

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Speaker 17: them is Lane Kiffen, the coach at Ole Miss. He

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Speaker 17: has decided to take an offer to go to LSU

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Speaker 17: for more fame.

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Speaker 4: Basically it's a.

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Speaker 17: Bigger, more stout program with more national championships. People are

1205
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 17: very outraged about it. They feel he's betrayed his school,

1206
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Speaker 17: But I feel it also is emblematic of how college

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01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 17: football is today, where basically every player is on a

1208
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 17: one year they can get paid. Now they're basically on

1209
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 17: a one year free agency deal with a college. They

1210
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 17: can get in the transfer portal and go wherever you want.

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Speaker 4: But what do you make of it? Sean?

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Speaker 20: So, I love Lane Kiffen for making himself the most

1213
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 20: hateable person in all of college sports. Like college sports

1214
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 20: thrives on hatred and rivalries, and quite honestly, all the

1215
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 20: reorgs and the conferences, we've lost a lot of those

1216
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 20: old timey rivals and hatred. And so I love Lane

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Speaker 20: being himself doing the heel turn because he did it

1218
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Speaker 20: to Tennessee. You know that he got fired at USC

1219
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 20: and left on the tarmac. I love that he's doing this,

1220
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Speaker 20: that he's doing it in conference because it is going

1221
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Speaker 20: to make the LSU game in Oxford next year absolutely amazing.

1222
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Speaker 20: But I will say loyalty is not entirely dead in

1223
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 20: college football. It's not all about the money. It's not

1224
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 20: all about the fame. I say that is a Texas

1225
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Speaker 20: Tech red Raider gun up and Reckham, our coach, was

1226
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Speaker 20: asked about this earlier this week, and he said, I

1227
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Speaker 20: don't care about any of it. You're going to bury

1228
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Speaker 20: me in Loveock. So not all of the college coaches

1229
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Speaker 20: or villains. Some of them are awesome, like Joey maguire

1230
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Speaker 20: at Texas Tech and Lubbock, Texas well.

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Speaker 10: Reckham I have as a U dub graduate and a

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Speaker 10: Husky fan. When we had Kaylin de Boor we lost

1233
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Speaker 10: in the national Championship, everybody was willing to sort of

1234
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 10: give Kaylan de Boor this keys to the city, that

1235
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 10: he was going to be a king in a very Listen,

1236
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Speaker 10: it's not the biggest empire in America, the UDUB, but

1237
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 10: they have a very proud football tradition, and we were

1238
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 10: hoping that he was going to say and of course

1239
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Speaker 10: he didn't. He had to go to Alabama where he

1240
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 10: is absolutely in a meat grinder. I mean to be

1241
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Speaker 10: in that that program and following in the heels of

1242
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Speaker 10: one of the greatest to ever do it, if not

1243
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 10: the greatest to ever do it. I do not envy him,

1244
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 10: and he's sort of getting his justice. Theres what is

1245
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 10: he ranked ten? Was he Danny ten ten in the nation?

1246
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 10: Two losses? It's not good enough for Alabama football. So

1247
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 10: sometimes you get what you wish for. But I agree

1248
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 10: with you Sean, it is it is really good for

1249
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 10: college football to have a villain, and Lane Kiffin is

1250
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 10: one of those personalities that can totally embrace it, step

1251
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 10: right into it. I told you on the photo was

1252
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Speaker 10: like you better have some good security going into Oxford, Mississippi,

1253
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 10: we did. We did an Old miss event this this

1254
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 10: year with jd Vance and Erica Kirk and it was

1255
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Speaker 10: one of the most enthusiastic events I've ever been to.

1256
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Speaker 10: That student body's riled up. They're very proud of their

1257
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 10: football program and they're doing well this year, and so

1258
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Speaker 10: they don't They're not even gonna let him finish out

1259
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 10: the season. That's how like, that's how cutthroat this is

1260
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Speaker 10: for if you're in Mississippi, and so I just I

1261
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Speaker 10: celebrate this. Lane Kiffin's like a Trump supporter. He's he's

1262
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Speaker 10: super entertaining when it comes to talking to the press

1263
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Speaker 10: of the media. He'll go places that other coaches will

1264
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Speaker 10: not dare to. And now he's at LSU and the

1265
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Speaker 10: SEC has a big time rivalry and unexpected big time

1266
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Speaker 10: rivalry stage which is outshining all the others.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's it's going to be amazing. I cannot wait

1268
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 20: for the next season of football. Obviously we're not done

1269
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 20: with this one yet. The number four Texas tech Raiders

1270
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 20: Red Raiders heading into the championship this weekend. If I

1271
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 20: haven't said it, recommend guns up.

1272
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Speaker 10: Ah man, you just said it.

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Speaker 17: But I just do I do feel I feel a

1274
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 17: little paint. I've always been more of an NFL fan.

1275
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 17: I grew up in South Dakota. It's a bit of

1276
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 17: a college football black hole in relative terms.

1277
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Speaker 4: But it just seems money is going to be the

1278
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 4: inevitable thing.

1279
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Speaker 17: The coaches all want to go where there's either the

1280
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 17: most prestige or the most cash, and the players largely

1281
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 17: want to do the same thing, and it's so easy

1282
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 17: to transfer. I just I worry in ten years we'll

1283
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 17: look back on what we lost and we'll feel a

1284
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 17: lot more pain about it.

1285
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Speaker 4: I fear.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Sean, I agree with I actually agree with Blake.

1287
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 10: I think this is going to create a race to

1288
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 10: the top, and the mid mid level schools there never,

1289
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 10: they never, We're not gonna be talking about them as

1290
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 10: much in ten years. But who's gonna win thirty second?

1291
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 10: Sean predict who's gonna win the national championship this year?

1292
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Speaker 20: The Ohio State looks really really good. Their defense is ridiculous,

1293
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 20: their offense is off the charts. But there's there's they

1294
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 20: stand out chants against the Texas tech raators of Lovick, Texas.

1295
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, All right, fine, what about Indiana? Indiana?

1296
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 10: This year?

1297
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Come on, this is really impressing.

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Speaker 20: Well, find out that Saturday Sean Davis playing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Sean Davis, the Man, the myth, the legend. Thanks

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Speaker 10: for joining us.

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Speaker 7: We'll be back.

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Speaker 18: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 18: Terrence Bates. We are working a developing situation involving an

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Speaker 18: alleged would be pipe bomber who would have attacked the

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Speaker 18: January sixth demonstration. You can see video of agents put

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Speaker 18: the FBI and other law enforcement coming through a home

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Speaker 18: where this alleged pipe bomber lived. We are also expecting

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Speaker 18: a news conference involving the FBI's director, Cash Bettel that's

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Speaker 18: expected to happen here within the next thirty minutes, during

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Speaker 18: which we will get much more information, or at least

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Speaker 18: we're expecting to get much more information on this pipe

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Speaker 18: bomber as well as the circumstances leading to his arrest.

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Speaker 18: We are hearing that he was on the FBI's radar

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Speaker 18: years ago, but just now charges are being brought in.

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Speaker 18: This case is being brought after it was covered up

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Speaker 18: apparently under the Biden administration's FBI. Again, this is a

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Speaker 18: developing situation that we're continuing to monitor, and we will

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Speaker 18: take you to the news conference once it happens here

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Speaker 18: on Real America's Voice. In the meantime, President Trump is

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Speaker 18: set to welcome the presidents of Rwanda and Congo to

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Speaker 18: the White House today. He's going to solidify a peace

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Speaker 18: agreement between those two countries. You can see there on

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Speaker 18: your screen. The stage is already set for that. The

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Speaker 18: Commander and Pieces I've called him, helped broke of the

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Speaker 18: agreement that's being signed today. The two countries have been

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Speaker 18: warning for decades. The current agreement involves troop withdrawals, joint

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Speaker 18: security mechanisms, as well as regional economic integration. This is

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Speaker 18: just the latest attempt at peace between the two countries.

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Speaker 18: A deal that was signed back in two thousand and

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Speaker 18: two included provisions for the withdrawal of the rwanded troops

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Speaker 18: who are currently in Congo and also dismantling other armed groups.

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Speaker 18: Still the fighting continued again. We're expecting this event to

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Speaker 18: happen at any moment. In the moment it does, will

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Speaker 18: also take you there for that. The admiral who oversaw

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Speaker 18: the now infamous September second double strike on a suspected

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Speaker 18: drug boat in the Caribbean is expected to tell lawmakers

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Speaker 18: on Capitol Hill today that the people killed in that

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Speaker 18: strike were legitimate military targets. Admiral Frank Bradley was the

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Speaker 18: head of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time

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Speaker 18: of the attack. He'll testify before the House and Senate

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Speaker 18: Armed Forces Committee starting today. The Chairman of the Joint

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Speaker 18: Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kine, will join him. That's

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Speaker 18: a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 10: him because it's important to know this stuff. Joining us

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Speaker 10: now on the show is Adam Wren. He's the director

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Speaker 10: of Open Justice UK and there is a lot of

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Speaker 10: breaking news out of the United Kingdom when it comes

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Speaker 10: to these grooming gangs and the story that has been

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Speaker 10: boiler under the service for many years in that country.

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Speaker 10: But then with the help of Elon Musk and others

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Speaker 10: has been brought to the foe and they're doing some

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Speaker 10: great work. Blake, Blake, why don't you give us a

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Speaker 10: little primer and help us welcome Adam to the show here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure, Hey, Adam, glad to have you. Can

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Speaker 4: you hear us.

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Speaker 20: Here?

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Speaker 4: Excellent? Excellent? So yeah, I guess let's just tee up

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Speaker 4: your work. This is a cause Charlie cared a lot about.

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Speaker 17: He cared a lot about the fate of the United

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Speaker 17: Kingdom and how it could be a country that represents

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Speaker 17: America's future in a lot of ways. And we're revisiting

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Speaker 17: what's been a story for a while, which is these

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Speaker 17: grooming gangs mostly linked to immigrants or our immigrant to

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Speaker 17: drive people in our immigrant drive people in the United Kingdom,

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Speaker 17: and they were grooming and sexually assaulting, sexually abusing British girls.

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Speaker 17: And you've been working to really bring forth to the

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Speaker 17: public the full details of what happened with these grooming gangs.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's going to catch.

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Speaker 17: People here off guard just how much of this wasn't known,

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Speaker 17: how much little transparency there was.

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Speaker 4: But how about you set this up for us? What

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Speaker 4: have you been releasing in the last couple of days, So.

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Speaker 7: Yes, thank you for the introduction.

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Speaker 23: The crimes have been known for a long time, decades,

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Speaker 23: but the full details of them were never released, and

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Speaker 23: that includes partly just the genuine bavarity of these crimes.

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Speaker 23: These girls were not just being sexually abused, they were

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Speaker 23: being raped in horrific, really unspeakable ways, and in some

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Speaker 23: cases tortured. There's no equivocation, there's no the language that

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Speaker 23: can be used to describe what.

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Speaker 7: Happened to them.

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Speaker 23: And I think it was the release of the first

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Speaker 23: transcripts around January that really brought home to the public

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Speaker 23: that these aren't normal crimes, and they have been covered

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Speaker 23: up by the police, by social services and by our

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Speaker 23: government and the reality I think it is really starting

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Speaker 23: to hit home with people.

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Speaker 7: This release that we've just in this last week.

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Speaker 23: Has more than doubled, more than triple actually the current

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Speaker 23: number of sentence and remarks. A number of these documents

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Speaker 23: are now in the public that are available to read

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Speaker 23: at transcripts dot Open Justice in UK DOTG And it's yeah,

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Speaker 23: I mean, the dam is really breaking on this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you say sentencing remarks. So I think in the United.

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Speaker 17: States, we would see it as a default that court

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Speaker 17: hearings are public, that the sentence remarks of a judge

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Speaker 17: would be public. It's generally here not difficult to get.

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Speaker 17: You might not have cameras in a courtroom, but you'll

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Speaker 17: virtually always have the at least the transcripts of what

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Speaker 17: is going on in court and what a judge would say.

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Speaker 17: But that's apparently not the norm in the UK. And

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Speaker 17: I believe they've tried to charge you huge sums of

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Speaker 17: money to get these, haven't they.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very true.

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Speaker 23: So in the US legal system, transcripts are made automatically

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Speaker 23: just in case a hearing, you know, trial has to

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Speaker 23: go to an appeal court. In the UK, that's absolutely

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Speaker 23: not the case. You have to request them and a

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Speaker 23: judge has to accept that you have a good reason

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Speaker 23: for requesting them. So we actually had a number of

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Speaker 23: judges deniers. One judge actually denied us with the justification

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Speaker 23: that having this information in the public was not conducted

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Speaker 23: to the public good, it.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't help the conversation that was happening.

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Speaker 23: And then even when the judges do allow us to

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Speaker 23: get the transcripts, in some cases we were quote thirty

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Speaker 23: thousand pounds. It's it's just inaccessible to a victim. It

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Speaker 23: was we've only been able to do this because we've

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Speaker 23: crowd for the money to acquire them.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and I can't frankly, I can't read all of

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Speaker 17: these because they're just too graphic for our audience. But

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Speaker 17: I just want to you, guys, anyone who's listening should

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Speaker 17: go look up Open Justice UK and read these. They're

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Speaker 17: freely available now. But it's describing what's going on. So

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Speaker 17: these are gangs, again mostly migrant related, and they would

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Speaker 17: sort of pick up underage UK girls twelve thirteen, fourteen

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Speaker 17: years old and they would sort they would groom them

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Speaker 17: and eventually just begin sexually assaulting them. And what we're

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Speaker 17: seeing in these is you have it where they're threatened

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Speaker 17: with violence if they don't have sex with multiple different men.

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Speaker 17: We have cases where there's, for example, a migrant owned

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Speaker 17: taxi company where they're basically engaging in prostitution rings and

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Speaker 17: there's this strong racial element to it as well, where

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Speaker 17: they're told, hey, we're taking over your country. This is

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Speaker 17: what's happening to you now. They're told we do this

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Speaker 17: to you because we won't do this to Asian women.

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Speaker 17: Asian in the UK refers to a lot of migrants

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Speaker 17: from South Asia. It's incredibly appalling stuff. And again it's

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Speaker 17: practically too graphic, and it's they were older, some in

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Speaker 17: their thirties, sometimes up to three different men a day,

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Speaker 17: multiple times a day. It's truly jar stuff and a

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Speaker 17: question that's also being asked online right now, and maybe

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Speaker 17: you can answer this, Adam. Why aren't these these apparently

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Speaker 17: also weren't treated as hate crimes.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean, in some of the transcripts we've released

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Speaker 23: just this week, they, as you said, they're explicitly targeting

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Speaker 23: these girls because of their race. I won't read the

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Speaker 23: excerpt because they are they are very disturbing.

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Speaker 7: But you're right.

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Speaker 23: We have provisions in this country where crimes sentences should

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Speaker 23: be aggravated if somebody is targeted for a protected characteristic

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Speaker 23: that could be religion and race. Not a single one

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Speaker 23: of these cases, to my awareness, has had that aggravating

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Speaker 23: sensus and applied. It seems to be that they weren't

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Speaker 23: prosecuted for hate crime or a race crime, despite it

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Speaker 23: being laid out in black and white. That these girls

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Speaker 23: were targeted for being white.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely unbelievable. And yeah, Andrew if you want to come in.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. So it occurs to me that it's these I've

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Speaker 10: been reading these transcripts while you guys have been discussing

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Speaker 10: this back and forth, and I'm I'm just horrified at it.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the victim six and reading was a particularly

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Speaker 10: vulnerable young girl. She had been abused, abused from the

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Speaker 10: age of seven by various men. She knew you, mister Hussein,

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Speaker 10: and you from when she was fourteen. I mean, she

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Speaker 10: was placed in children's homes and getting abuse. I can't

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Speaker 10: even read the rest of it, obviously, as you guys

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Speaker 10: have already said. But in the UK there seems to

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Speaker 10: be this push for decades against transparency, against releasing this information.

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Speaker 10: It almost feels like a cover up. First question, where

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Speaker 10: what's behind that? Why wouldn't the leadership in the UK

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Speaker 10: if the justice officials want to expose this? And then secondly,

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Speaker 10: in this new era, Elon Musk blowing the lid off

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Speaker 10: this story. I know there was other people working diligently

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Speaker 10: behind the scenes. You just provided an amplification a microphone

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Speaker 10: to it. Are you seeing whatever that stranglehold on the

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Speaker 10: truth is, are you seeing it break?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? So it's an excellent question.

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Speaker 23: I think there has been a cover up, yeah, And

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Speaker 23: I think it's partly because it's very, very difficult to

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Speaker 23: discuss race, especially when all of the discussions around race

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Speaker 23: and around institutional racism are orientated towards white people being

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Speaker 23: the perpetrators. It's very very difficult to discuss things like

1511
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 23: people being targeted for the race when white people are

1512
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 23: the victims. You know, we talk about rape culture, but

1513
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 23: there are cases here where you know, men will call

1514
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 23: up their uncles, their cousins, their nephews and they will say,

1515
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 23: you know, we have this go you know we have

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01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 23: do you want to come over and help us?

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01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 7: Raper?

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01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 23: And you know, if that's not rape culture, then then

1519
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 23: what is right?

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 7: It's it's unbelievable, it's endemic.

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 23: So I think it's very difficult to discuss this within

1522
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 23: the paradigm that we've been taught about how race and

1523
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 23: race relations and institutions interact.

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01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 7: And I think it's also the case that many.

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01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 23: Of the people that were involved in these gangs were

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01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 23: in positions of power. They were working for or with

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 23: the local police, with the local councils, with the local government,

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 23: and these crimes have been happening for so long that

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01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 23: maybe now some of those people are quite senior, they've

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 23: been promoted, they've gone on to other jobs, and they

1531
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 23: are you know, they have the ability to shut down investigations,

1532
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 23: to order information destroyed. So yeah, without a doubt, cover

1533
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 23: up and you're right breaking that it is breaking.

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01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 7: Yes, So this is the second part of your question. There,

1535
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 7: it is breaking.

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 23: We had an excellent review by a woman called Baroness

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 23: Louise Casey, who was working for the government and she's actually,

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01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 23: you know, closely associated with our civil service and with labor.

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01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 23: Some people think that they're the main porportrayers of this,

1540
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 23: but she was very brave and she came out with

1541
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 23: a very very strong review where she outlined that there

1542
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 23: has been a cover up, that the media has been

1543
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 23: very responsible in its reporting, and the files have been deleted,

1544
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 23: and that the perpetrator of these are predominantly Pakistani Muslim men.

1545
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 23: And since that report, we've seen the media more willing

1546
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 23: to engage on it. We've seen people more willing to

1547
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 23: tell the truth. We've seen more survivors coming forward. I

1548
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 23: think the dam is breaking, yet things are improving quite substantially.

1549
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 17: You really, I really want people to check out You

1550
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 17: can find good excerpts on Adam's x account at go Adam.

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 4: It's G zero eight a m at X.

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01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 17: He's got some great excerpts there, or you can go

1553
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 17: to transcripts do open Justice UK dot org. Check those

1554
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 17: out and I think we have an ad read here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you Adam for joining us. It's a truly

1556
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 10: horrifying story. But thank you for making the time to

1557
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 10: tell our audience about it.

1558
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 7: Thank you well, thank you for inviting me.

1559
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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just horrible. I got to tell you guys

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Speaker 6: Because they are tools that terrorize our community. Fortunately, these

1576
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Speaker 6: bombs did not explode, although they certainly could have. But

1577
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 6: make no mistake, the alleged pipe bomber did terrorize our community.

1578
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 6: Today's actions underscore the long memory and the long reach

1579
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 6: of the FBI and our partners. I know some people

1580
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 6: had given up on finding the perpetrator, but not the

1581
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 6: FBI and not our partners. We do not forget, We

1582
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 6: do not give up, and we do not relent. Though

1583
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 6: it had been nearly five years, our team continued to

1584
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 6: churn through massive amounts of data and tips that we

1585
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 6: used to identify this suspect. I want to thank Director

1586
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Speaker 6: Patel and Deputy Director Bongino for their leadership and for

1587
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 6: barbiding us the resources and the personnel to reevaluate all

1588
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 6: of the data that we had. We dove into more

1589
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 6: than three million lines of data to come up with

1590
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 6: this suspect. Director Patel, Deputy Director Bongino, thank you for

1591
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 6: your support, thank you for your passion, and thank you

1592
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 6: for your investment in this investigation. From me on behalf

1593
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 6: of the investigators, the Washington Field Office, and all of

1594
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 6: our partners, thank you. I'd also like to thank Judge Piro,

1595
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Speaker 6: Judge your team and you are absolutely amazing. You're the

1596
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Speaker 6: type of prosecutors and US attorneys US attorney that all

1597
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Speaker 6: of the investigators across the country want to work with.

1598
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 6: They're hard nos and they're aggressive, and thank you for that.

1599
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,919
Speaker 6: I also like to thank the American public, the American

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01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 6: public for providing tips and leads, not just on this case,

1601
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 6: but every day on cases across the country that are

1602
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 6: being solved by law enforcement. And finally, I want to

1603
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 6: command all of the members of the Washington Field Office

1604
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 6: and most specifically the investigative team. Their diligence and persistence

1605
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 6: led to this arrest today.

1606
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 18: And they are.

1607
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: Use flash democrats.

1608
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,520
Speaker 16: America has a republic, not a democracy.

1609
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 10: Fact check, true connection, open dialogue. These are the things

1610
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 10: that build communities. Charlie and TikTok share in that knowledge.

1611
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 10: That's why TikTok has built a space where that kind

1612
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 10: of listening actually happens. People don't just post, they respond,

1613
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 10: They build on each other's ideas, You'll see a teacher

1614
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 10: simplifying a tough lesson so that it finally clicks for

1615
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 10: her students, or a gardener sharing a trick that save

1616
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 10: their crop. But what matters most isn't the first post,

1617
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 10: it's not the first video. It's what comes next. Someone

1618
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 10: asking a question, somebody answering with a story of their own,

1619
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 10: and then suddenly people who have never met are forming

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01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 10: a community and sharing ideas and building connection. Connection, real

1621
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 10: connection takes place, Walls come down. This is what listening does.

1622
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 10: It reminds us that we're not all as different as

1623
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 10: we may think. And that's what makes TikTok so so powerful.

1624
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,600
Speaker 10: It's a place where every post can turn into a conversation,

1625
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 10: and every conversation can make a difference. So check out

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01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 10: TikTok today, Charlie. Billions and billions of views on on

1627
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,879
Speaker 10: that platform. So, Blake, we've got this press conference that's ongoing.

1628
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 10: We're gonna be our team is monitoring it. If there's

1629
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 10: any new news that we learn, we're gonna be bringing

1630
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 10: it to you. But I would we would be remiss

1631
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 10: if we did not bring up what Erica was doing yesterday,

1632
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 10: and she was in New York she was talking about.

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01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 10: She was with Andrew Ross Sorkin, who people might be

1634
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 10: surprised it was a friend of Charlie's. They actually had

1635
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 10: a pretty warm relationship. They just agreed on a lot

1636
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 10: of things. Andrew Russ Sorkin had invited Charlie out to

1637
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 10: deal Book, which is a major event in liberal circles.

1638
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 10: Gavin Newsom was on just before Erica, Believe it or not,

1639
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 10: and Erica wanted to honor what Charlie had committed to

1640
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 10: and go in his place. And she did a great job.

1641
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 10: We're very proud of her. I was, like I said,

1642
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 10: I was doing another podcast, met up with them for

1643
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 10: this deal Book thing. So let's play a clip from this.

1644
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 10: We were very proud of her.

1645
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 24: Through twenty eight we are living in a day and

1646
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 24: age where they think violence is the solution to them,

1647
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 24: not wanting to hear a different point of view. That's

1648
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 24: not a gun problem, that's a human, deeply human problem.

1649
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 10: And you know, Blake, she got asked about all kinds

1650
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 10: of political questions and I think sorting kind of through

1651
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 10: stuff that other people hadn't asked her about, and I

1652
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 10: thought she handled it extraordinarily well, with a lot of

1653
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 10: grace and composure she did she did.

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01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 17: I think another she got into the personal dimension as well,

1655
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 17: talking about her life with Charlie, And I think this

1656
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 17: is probably what's gotten the most focus is this statement

1657
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 17: that she said she talks basically about how Charlie helped

1658
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 17: get her out of the call it the Boss Babe

1659
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 17: track in New York City.

1660
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 4: Let's play three twenty four.

1661
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 24: I will be fully transparent. I was fully bought into

1662
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 24: the Boss Babe.

1663
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 7: I mean I lived in Manhattan.

1664
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 24: I Charlie essentially plucked me out of the New York

1665
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 24: City orbit and was like, no, I have a healthier

1666
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 24: way of viewing things and looking at life and things

1667
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 24: like that.

1668
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 4: And he was right.

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01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 20: He was right.

1670
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 24: And I remember thinking, if I would have stayed on

1671
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 24: that path I was on, I would have lost out

1672
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 24: on some of the most beautiful moments of my life, children,

1673
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 24: having a husband, being able to create and build something

1674
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:17,440
Speaker 24: so incredible.

1675
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, there is a lot of that. I think the

1676
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 10: liberal media establishment is freaking out, like, why did you

1677
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 10: invite Erica Kirk to tell women they shouldn't pursue a career?

1678
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 17: And that's that's not She was sadly dragged a lot

1679
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 17: of people kicking and screaming from New York, from DC,

1680
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 17: from California, drag them out to the desert where it

1681
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 17: rains way more often than people say, and he built

1682
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 17: something to me.

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01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 10: I actually have a funny story about that. I was

1684
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 10: trying to get home. I'd been gone for eighteen days,

1685
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,759
Speaker 10: trying to get back to my family after everything happened,

1686
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 10: and there was like torrential downpour. All the flights were

1687
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 10: canceled in Phoenix. So they were like, it's the most

1688
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 10: rain we've had in seven years, and I was like,

1689
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,640
Speaker 10: what the heck is happening? I cannot I guess, you know,

1690
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 10: it was like a sign that that Phoenix was.

1691
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 17: The world's gonna learn the truth. Phoenix is a fake

1692
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 17: desert reigns all the time.

1693
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 10: Here it rains a lot now. But I'm just I

1694
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 10: just want to make this point because Erica did this.

1695
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 10: She goes into the lions Den, into the liberal cores

1696
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 10: in New York City and Manhattan and takes whatever questions

1697
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 10: are you know, thrown her way, and she did it

1698
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 10: to honor her husband. You know, Charlie was gonna go

1699
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:31,919
Speaker 10: to that event. I was going to be with him,

1700
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 10: and we booked it a long time ago. Obviously, Charlie

1701
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 10: was not able to do that, and Erica honored that commitment.

1702
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 10: And that's just the kind of person she is. And

1703
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 10: I just couldn't say enough good things. And candidly, I

1704
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 10: felt like Andrew Ross Sorkin did a good job. He

1705
01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 10: was he was he was not mean in any way.

1706
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 10: He was very warm and sympathetic to what Erica has

1707
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 10: gone through. The audience was warm and sympathetic. So all

1708
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 10: in all, hat tip to all in into Erica especially.

1709
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 10: It has been an action packed two hours. I'm gonna

1710
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 10: keep my eyes on this press conference and we'll be

1711
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 10: tweeting out anything that there's newsworthy from it. Blake will

1712
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 10: see tomorrow. We got an A, M, A, and more

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01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 10: tomorrow at the Charlie Kirkshow. We'll see you then see

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Speaker 10: you tomorrow