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Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: this is the drive on Steeler's Audio Network and Matt

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Speaker 3: our DFS lineup. It looks like it's gonna finish in

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Speaker 3: the money again this week.

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Speaker 2: A lot of dudes tonight though.

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Speaker 3: We got Joe Burrow still going tonight. We have t

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Speaker 3: Higgins still going tonight.

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Speaker 2: Sounds promising.

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Speaker 3: That's a good place to start. We have one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighteen point six points. I would think Burrow and

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Speaker 3: Higgins should get us somewhere into thirty five to forty range.

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Speaker 2: You would think I was just about to say the opposite. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at Cedee Lamb and all the

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Speaker 2: Bengals and all these guys in tonight's game, and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'll be fine. Like in our game, I have three

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Speaker 2: guys going tonight, I'm like, oh, they need thirty points,

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Speaker 2: nothing to it. This will be the game. It's nine

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Speaker 2: six or something. Yeah, But I really don't see it

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Speaker 2: going that way. I don't need to stop what Bengals do.

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Speaker 3: No, it really isn't. And the Cowboys, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that they're gonna be able to stop.

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Speaker 2: Since no, no, I wonder if they can keep up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how bad is that Bengals Dee and Cooper

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Speaker 2: rushing company throw for three hundred lam get the one third.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that concerns me is Dallas's line is

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Speaker 3: all banged up. I don't know that they're going to

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Speaker 3: have a ton of success moving the football consistently. They

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Speaker 3: may do it in spurts that has.

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Speaker 2: Been okay though lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think they found a back that's some

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Speaker 2: kind of running game.

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Speaker 3: But Cincinnati much more comfortable playing that higher score.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well they haven't beaten a team with a winning record,

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Speaker 3: but they have beaten teams with losing records.

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Speaker 2: So no, I think it'll be a fun game, especially

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Speaker 2: for fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, so we should be okay there we hit on that.

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Speaker 3: Rashad White twenty four point nine points two point three

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Speaker 3: percent ownership so chi ching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and what's his face played? Yeah? You know we

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Speaker 2: were going to think out of it and end up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Braylan Allen fifteen point one percent ownership at the

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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars, got us twelve points.

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Speaker 2: Didn't take over the whole role one hundred percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he had eighty one total yards. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir twenty four point six points he had he

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Speaker 3: was owned an eight point one percent of the league.

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Speaker 2: So again we had a lot of low ownership, which

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Speaker 2: I think, way, yeah, I think you want to be

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Speaker 2: part of that game.

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Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba the same thing. Eight point one

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Speaker 3: percent ownership nineteen point six points almost every week with

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Speaker 3: that guy, that's solid, Yeah, quality player. We had Kate

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Speaker 3: aughten three for seventy he was eleven point six percent ownership.

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Speaker 3: Take ten points out of the tight end position for

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Speaker 3: a forty four hundred dollars tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that works what they misses yet.

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Speaker 3: Tony Pollard eight point four percent ownership, sixty four hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars for him, he got a seventeen point four had

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Speaker 3: one hundred yards rushing. He wasn't the problem in that game. No, No,

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Speaker 3: they're passing game very much. So, but yeah, quietly he's

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Speaker 3: had a really good year. Yeah, he's been solid ice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like he gets drafted next year in

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Speaker 2: Fantasy maybe pretty high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had the Saint's Defense at twenty nine hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: That was thirty four percent ownership, So that was our

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Speaker 3: highest owned thing thus far. We don't know but Burrow

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Speaker 3: or Higgins yet, but ten points out of the Saint's Defense.

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Speaker 3: So that gets us to one to eighteen point six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, giants are bad.

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Speaker 3: We need about twenty points. We need to finish in

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Speaker 3: the top one fifty of the of the contest that

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Speaker 3: we're in. We have a few people here who have

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Speaker 3: the same lineup as us, so thank you for playing along,

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Speaker 3: or you're welcome. Yeah, or you're welcome. There's about six

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Speaker 3: or seven of them here in this contest. Once again,

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Speaker 3: though on DraftKings, I noticed in these fifty to fifty

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Speaker 3: double ups a group of about twenty people with the

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Speaker 2: It's not our lineup.

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Speaker 3: It's not our lineup, but somebody else's lineup that they're

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Speaker 3: getting from somewhere, and they're all playing the same exact lineup.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know there's groups out there or how

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Speaker 2: that works. But that's definitely not a coincident.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not a coincidence, but it happens, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we picked a good lineup, but I was

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Speaker 2: didn't have Allen. You know, like there were some blows,

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Speaker 2: some guys that went off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, uh, let's get to that. Looking at this

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Speaker 3: week's top performers. Uh, there were seven three hundred yard

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Speaker 3: passers this week, led by Sam Darnold three forty seven

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Speaker 3: and five touchdowns. Yeah, just tortured that Atlanta offense in

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Speaker 3: Atlanta defense, I should say, yeah, but you can't count

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Speaker 3: You just can't count on that every week from Sam Darmal. No,

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Speaker 3: but he has been reasonably consistent. Twelve guy though. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bad ones too. Yeah. I mean, I think Benching is

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen had three forty two and three touchdowns, also

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Speaker 2: Some yaccounted for six. That's not bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a monster, monster Aaron Rodgers three thirty

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Speaker 2: The first game in a long time, long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't get to your weather. Yeah, good weather down there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to Attago Viloa on the other side of that,

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Speaker 2: So I think that's real. I mean, this looks like

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Speaker 2: the Miami offense. I mean, I know the weather will

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Speaker 2: there at home. Yeah, but they're throwing the waddle on

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Speaker 2: hill like they used to, like waddles back. Got Johnny

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Speaker 3: Brock Purdy had three twenty five and two touchdowns. Basically

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Speaker 2: Which is what they need to do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's their most important guy at the moment.

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Speaker 2: He's the guy that need to lean on. Miserable performance by.

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Speaker 3: The Bears, miser zero and six on the road this year,

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Speaker 3: are they really yeah?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Uh? And then uh, Baker Mayfield, I'm sorry. Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 2: And he was great. I mean, when when he is

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Speaker 2: Nakua and Cup doesn't matter if he runs or not.

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Speaker 2: That offense is a juggernaut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Mayfield just missed with two ninety five and three touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Golf had two eighty three and three touchdowns, a

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Speaker 3: interception in a sack. Uh. Kyler Murray two fifty nine,

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Speaker 3: two touchdowns, two interceptions. Yeah he was. He was number

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Speaker 3: only three one hundred yard rushers this week.

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Speaker 2: They love us through the air.

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Speaker 3: Zach Sharboney leading the way twenty two for one thirty

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Speaker 2: The entire workload with Walker out, Yes, exactly what we're

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley twenty for one to twenty four. Took a while,

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Speaker 3: he does. Ye Yeah. Tony Paller twenty one for one

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's had a good year.

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Speaker 3: Bijon had twenty two for ninety two and a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He's had a great year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I mean he's one of the early picks

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Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard at twenty six for ninety two in the

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Speaker 2: And now Brooks is out of the way.

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Speaker 3: Brooks year gone for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: Rashad White seventeen for ninety in the score.

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Speaker 2: He did some good things, like between the tackles, you know,

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Speaker 2: normal running back stuff, not just a receiver. He's getting

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Speaker 3: Connor at eighteen for ninety Karen Karen Williams twenty nine

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Speaker 3: for eighty seven and two touchdowns. Yeah, volume, he gets volume,

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Speaker 3: Then you had Josh Allen with ten for eighty two

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Speaker 3: and three touchdowns. That was the number nine leading rusher.

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Speaker 3: Isaac Grendo had fifteen for seventy eight and two scores.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on the injury, but he got hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it'll go to Taylor as there RB four

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Speaker 2: I would not kind on Grende.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, since here McCormick had fifteen for seventy.

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Speaker 2: Eight and a little bit of attention to that he's real. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's good enough for fantasy. He's a starter

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking to see if there's anybody else on

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Speaker 3: there who stands out in terms of New Sean Tucker

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Speaker 3: sucked in by just the yardage there. Yeah, he wasn't

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Speaker 3: the factor that White was.

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Speaker 2: No, White got the benefit there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mentioned Braylen Allen eleven for forty three. They also

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Speaker 3: gave it to uh Isaiah Davis ten for forty and

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Speaker 2: It was pretty much a split one, but yeah, Allen's better. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately Davis got the score, got the touchdown. So Kenny

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Speaker 2: But sharbon as roll with him as as long as

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Looking at the receivers, well there were eleven. This

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Speaker 3: one goes to eleven wide receivers who broke one hundred

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Speaker 3: yards this week. Uh pooking the coop leading the way

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Speaker 3: with twelve for one sixty two and a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Looked really good doing it we got some carries too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: really good game.

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Speaker 3: Kittle six for one fifty one. Didn't score, but six

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Speaker 2: I mean, like with the O'Connell injury, Kittle might be

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Speaker 3: They're saying O'Connell's okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, I thought he was off for the year,

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Speaker 2: just a bruce. Oh really okay, I thought was taking

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Speaker 2: He's gone quite a while on a touchdown drought.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you see after he scored, he kind of

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Speaker 2: It's just be patient with those great, great players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyreek had ten for one fifteen in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I have him buying in Garrett Wilson. I'm not because they're

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Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson seven for one fourteen but did not score.

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Speaker 3: DeVante Adams nine for one oh nine in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: No, I just don't trust him at all.

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Speaker 2: And then Breese Hall's injuries looming. They said he's going

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Speaker 3: Khalil Shakira had five for one oh six in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's their number one. Yeah, it also helped Ken

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Speaker 3: Then you had Adam Thielen with nine for one oh two.

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Speaker 2: I've sold him short. I mean he should be in

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Speaker 2: That's a good passing game and he's the most trustworthy guy.

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Speaker 3: He just gets the ball.

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Speaker 2: He might be a wide receiver two for fantasy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Waddle had nine for ninety nine, so he just sent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's getting the volume.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray Ray McCleod eight for ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you think the stakes some cos Yeah, Amari

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Speaker 3: Cooper had six for ninety five, so that's positive to see.

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup was five for ninety two and a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: which was a ridiculous touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, part of a really good pass game.

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Speaker 3: One Jennings Kittle didn't catch the touchdowns. One Jennings did.

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Speaker 3: He had seven for ninety and two scores.

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Speaker 2: He's better than Debo yeah, I mean for Fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas had eight for eighty six.

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Speaker 2: Jones kind of doing it every week there, he's really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jamis and Williams did it again, five for eighty, Malik

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Speaker 3: Neighbors five for seventy nine. That might be what you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I kind of hate this about Fantasy and whatever,

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Speaker 2: he's going to be on a pitch count. I think

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Speaker 2: he played fifty two out of fifty four snaps. You know,

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Speaker 2: like people that might have shied away from him. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Palmer had six for seventy eight last night, but.

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Speaker 2: He's the one they missed deep, right, Yeah, Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so good game from him, and you've kind of

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Speaker 2: And Johnston did okay too. And they're not the best players,

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride had a bride got her too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another pass catcher. McBride had seven for seventy.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of his floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no touchdowns touchdowns again, Yeah, Kyler's on throwing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans for sixty nine. Michael Mayer had seven for

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Speaker 2: I think look good doing it too. Yeah. He's not

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Speaker 3: That was big a game now and Mayor was more like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Mayor is something to watchless type of guy.

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Speaker 2: And Myers has been seven for sixty.

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Speaker 3: Seven, so he's been pretty solid. Uh. Sterling Shepherd had

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Speaker 2: It's Baker's guy.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of every week. It's been great. But he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And McMillan did good stuff for them too

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's worth keeping an eye on there. But

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Speaker 3: some good performances this week again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mostly through the air. Yeah, some blow up spots too.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's counting on a pass the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so be interesting. But everybody should be starting their

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Speaker 3: playoffs next week. Yeah, if you didn't start them this week, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: so good luck. I hope you're in good shape. Hope

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Speaker 3: we helped you throughout the year. Two looks like in

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Speaker 3: will be the one seed in our league. Matt's gonna

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Speaker 2: And we both get buys, and we.

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Speaker 3: Both get buys this week, and then maybe we run

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Speaker 2: Championship playing Chris Carter, who people might know. And I

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Speaker 2: think I need twenty eight points out of three guys tonight,

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Speaker 2: but one of them Damar Chase. Yeah, it's like that

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Speaker 3: It should never know. Yeah, you just don't. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it looks like that's the way it's gonna wind up here,

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Speaker 3: but that's going to do it for the fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 3: Matt and are going to take a break. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 3: And welcome. I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt Looks getting back to talking about Sunday's game.

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Speaker 3: The offense got off to a slow start, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I think a large portion of that was because you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure. I mean that was kind of a

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Speaker 3: They thought he was going to go, and it was

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Speaker 3: still too sore to go. Might even be in question

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Speaker 3: for this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But so.

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Speaker 3: Your game plan for that all week long. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: the Browns game plan for him to be out and

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Speaker 3: then when you find out he's not out there, when

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Speaker 2: To begin he is he is, I mean, and he

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Speaker 2: I mean trusting the Millers of the world and Williams

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Speaker 3: So early in that game, you saw a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I can't remember if I mentioned it on

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati game was Russell Wilson's quickest time to throw

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Speaker 2: as a stealer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one was quicker.

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Speaker 2: It's two weeks in a row, and I think that

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Speaker 2: it was, well, if you're not gonna cover our running

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Speaker 2: great this one, I think they kind of game plan

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Speaker 3: There was a lot people were text or tweeting at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'll do some of my texting or

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Speaker 3: tweeting during the game. Where are all the throws in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the field they had last week? I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like you're not going.

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Speaker 3: To throw out there, right because that's where all the

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Speaker 2: And the Bengals, frankly, were just had a bad game

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Speaker 3: They didn't want to give up the deep ball, and

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Speaker 3: to attack the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it worked. You know, for a while. But

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Speaker 2: now I know what your strategy is. Maybe I don't

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Speaker 2: still going to attack the weaknesses of your defense. You know,

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Speaker 3: I thought the touchdown throw to h to Jefferson was

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Speaker 2: to run.

443
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Speaker 3: They went hurry up in that situation and like that, Okay, yeah,

444
00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna hurry up to the line of scrimmage. Here

445
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,920
Speaker 3: and boom again, everybody's on the same page. You knew

446
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,919
Speaker 3: exactly what they were going to do there, and he

447
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 3: was wide open.

448
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned hurry up, like they don't do

449
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,719
Speaker 2: a ton of it, but you'll see him change tempos

450
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,800
Speaker 2: and change cadence and just being in really control of

451
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 2: the situation the whole time. And again I think he

452
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 2: could have if the goal was rush throw for as

453
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 2: many yards as you possibly can. There'll be more, you know,

454
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 2: but the goal was we don't mind punting here and there,

455
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,199
Speaker 2: you know, especially once the game kind of as you mentioned,

456
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 2: like late in the second quarter, when you had a

457
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 2: pretty good feel for where the things were going and

458
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:16,400
Speaker 2: had them kind of where you wanted them.

459
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 3: And I think they also knew after you know, watching

460
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: the first really just watching the first series for the Browns. Offensively, Yeah,

461
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 3: this wasn't going to be Jamis's day.

462
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 2: No, he did some good things, but as you mentioned

463
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,479
Speaker 2: to start the show, they rattled him, you know. I

464
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 2: mean there was a lot of plays where he just

465
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: had to struggle to throw it away, you know, or

466
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, timing and rhythm wasn't great and you know,

467
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 2: feeding the joke who like crazy again, But not with

468
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 2: a lot of success. And I thought his accuracy wasn't

469
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: as good in this game as it was two weeks ago,

470
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 2: for sure, And frankly the d line just disturbed Stuffy

471
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 2: much better. Yeah. Yeah, and then you know you throw

472
00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 2: that pick the Bent and it's got to be is hardening,

473
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 2: you know what, Like the nose tackle has picked me

474
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 2: off screen.

475
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. After after the game, Bent was asked,

476
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: you know, how did you read screen or how did

477
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: you know that was going to be a screener? Because well,

478
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: usually the offensive lineman in front of me will try

479
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 3: to block me, and if he doesn't, it must be

480
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 3: a screen.

481
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: They want me to get a field.

482
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 3: So then you just start trying to okay, where are

483
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 3: those guys going follow follow the blockers and you'll find

484
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 3: that who there's only going to be one eligible there, right.

485
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: And he had a really good game overall. And we

486
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 2: were talking about this earlier in the show that you know,

487
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward's at the top of the league in terms

488
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 2: of swats at the line of scrimmage. Bent's right behind him,

489
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, like he's getting really good at that stuff too,

490
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: ball skills and getting his hands on the football right

491
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Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage. I mean, that's it's not

492
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 2: an easy skill. Yeah, we'll see how I question and

493
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, timing.

494
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: Ogan Joby was the only other injury coming out of

495
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: that game with a mccroin. He came back in the

496
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 3: second quarter after leaving in the second quarter, and then

497
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 3: they shut him down at halftime. I think they kind

498
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: of felt like, Okay, we're okay here.

499
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some big games ahead that we're gonna

500
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: need you type yeah type of deal.

501
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: Montravius Adams waiting in the wings.

502
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's probably ready to go. Yeaheah. And

503
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: you mentioned off the air Jackson he had back spasms.

504
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that was back spasms.

505
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: So that's not a big deal a problem.

506
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: So again, coming out of these things reasonably healthy.

507
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pickings things obviously won to monitor. Yeah, I

508
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 2: mean it came out today that he's not a sure

509
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: bet to go next week. I thought he was gonna

510
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: playing this one, but they're gonna need him in Philly.

511
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely will. They're going to try to win

512
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: that one, and they will try.

513
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: To They're going to try to win that one.

514
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, just looking at the overall seating here in the AFC,

515
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: Kansas City is still number one at twelve and one.

516
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: They're gonna be tough to catch it on.

517
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 3: H Buffalo number two at ten and three.

518
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: So same record, but they win the tiebreakers.

519
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 3: They win the tie breakers based on strength of victory. Yeah,

520
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: which earlier in the season was very good.

521
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: It's been hurting for the Steelers lately because teams like

522
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: the Falcons can't win any.

523
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 3: Of these these teams and some of these teams they

524
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: beat early in the season, Like they went from having

525
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: a victory over five teams with winning records or who

526
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: are playoff playoff qualifiers at the time to now four

527
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 3: because the Falcons are no longer in that group because

528
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: they've lost three in a row.

529
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: Seven in a row. Yeah. Yeah, So it's a weird

530
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: thing to root for, folks. But you want the Falcons,

531
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: you want the Colts. You want well that Colts would

532
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: matter if you lost, right, But I mean some of

533
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 2: the teams.

534
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: That you beat Denver, the Chargers.

535
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: Even the Browns.

536
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: Want the Browns to win a couple, yeah, I mean

537
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: you want you want the Bengals, for example, to win time.

538
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: It's not going to hurt you want to help you

539
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: it helps you, it helps you against Buffalo for the

540
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: tie breakers. Yeah, I mean I don't think that I'd

541
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: be shocked if the Steelers end with three losses. I mean,

542
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: they got a tough stretch here. But the Bills go

543
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: to Detroit. Yeah, I mean, so Bills aren't gonna I don't.

544
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if they.

545
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: Based on what I saw yesterday against the Rams, I

546
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: don't think they win aut against the Lions.

547
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean I wouldn't sell them short against anybody.

548
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they can beat anyone. They can,

549
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: but that's going to be a very competitive. Their defense

550
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: wasn't real uh inspiring? Yes, no, No, I just don't know.

551
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: The Lions is great either, but I think Detroit's. But

552
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 2: I think there's more losses on the horizon for Buffalo too.

553
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: I think Detroit's offense is better than the Rams.

554
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 2: I do too. I think it's probably the more defense

555
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: in the league.

556
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they run the ball, and we talked about

557
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: Karen Williams had twenty nine carries for eighty yards, like

558
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: Detroit will have more than twenty nine eighty yards rushing against.

559
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, one hundred percent. And they'll stay dedicated to it.

560
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Et cetera. So I don't know. I don't think either

561
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: the Bills or the Steelers will end up with three losses.

562
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: So they're you're fighting the the the Ravens for the division.

563
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: You got two game lead. Now, if you lose there,

564
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: it's that could close pretty quick. But you're you really

565
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: now now to be conscious of the Bills. If you

566
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: get that two seed'd be great. Yeah, I mean, if

567
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: you play the Bills in the AFC Championship, I don't

568
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: want to go there, right, I mean, that's what that

569
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: basically comes down to.

570
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: So right now, Houston remains the four seed sure and

571
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: will Yeah, Baltimore, based on the Chargers loss, now moves

572
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: up ahead of the Chargers for the six seed and

573
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: Denver for the seventh seed because they beat both of

574
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: those teams. So that's what you're looking at right now.

575
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: Altimore had a good week sitting there doing nothing.

576
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: No nothing except for the Steelers winning, right right right,

577
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: Because now you're two full games and the Steelers picked

578
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: up another AFC North win.

579
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: And the Raven zone of a kkewalk schedule either. No,

580
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they got Houston, you know, Yeah, what they have.

581
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: Left is the Giants this week well, they should win that.

582
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: I would think they win that one going away.

583
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 3: It's in New York though. Then they get to Steelers. Yeah,

584
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: not an easy game at the Texans on the short week.

585
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: That's the other Christmas.

586
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: Day game, Yes, and that's very losable.

587
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then they play the Browns in the final

588
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: week of the season. Let's not forget the Browns beat

589
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: them twenty nine to twenty four, and that was Winston's

590
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: first start.

591
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Browns aren't easy to play against. I mean,

592
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't think they're a cakewalk team by any stretch.

593
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Winston gets hot and you start blowing coverages and you

594
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: start missing field goals. You know, that's a losable game.

595
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: We already saw that. I don't know where the Browns

596
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: will be mentally in week eighteen, and I think that's

597
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: true for the Bengals as well, the Steelers' opponent. But

598
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: there are also a lot of players playing for jobs too, right,

599
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: you know. I no one's taking it easy.

600
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: And as much as the Browns wanted to sweep the Steelers,

601
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: and they did, they're going to want to sweep the Ravens.

602
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's a feather in your cap. Sure,

603
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: same type of deal.

604
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's something they keep an eye with.

605
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: The Ravens have another loss in them, if not, I

606
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: think so.

607
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think they lose one of those two

608
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: games to the Steelers of Texans.

609
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: I think they'll steamroll those giants.

610
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know so, I mean that's where you're

611
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: at with that. So you know, if you can hand

612
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: them the loss.

613
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: What's the rest of the bills schedule look like? I know,

614
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Detroit is looming, but.

615
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 3: Then it gets a little bit. I think it's it's

616
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: pretty cake.

617
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: The rest of the their divisional games, yeah, are difficult.

618
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: They get the Lions in Detroit, then they play the

619
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: Patriots at home, the Jets at home, and then they're

620
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: at the Patriots again.

621
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: No, I was thinking Miami might be in there, not

622
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

623
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 3: They've they've played the Miami twice and they swept them.

624
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 3: I believe, Yeah, they swept the.

625
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, But chances are they end up

626
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: with four losses. Yeah, yeah, I mean that sounds reasonable.

627
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: Kansas City still has they just have a two game lead.

628
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: Now they got a two game lead, but the Steelers

629
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: get them head to.

630
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: Head, and the Bills already beat them too. So they

631
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: don't their tie breakers could be bad.

632
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: For that they get They're at Cleveland this week.

633
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: They probably win, but I wouldn't say it's a slam dunk.

634
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: Then they get the Texans right on the short week.

635
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: They do that, then they're at Pittsburgh and at Denver.

636
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I assumed Denver have something to play for. Might

637
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 2: be six verse seve seven or five verse six.

638
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: Or something, might be just hey, we want to beat

639
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: the Chiefs.

640
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Chiefs will be to play for a

641
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: week eight team, but would you want to wrest your

642
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: guys for two weeks.

643
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: If the Steelers beat them as I expect on Christmas, yeah, yeah,

644
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: they'll have something to play for potentially.

645
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: And Houston could beat them.

646
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: Houston could beat them. They're not they're not playing well.

647
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: No. I also kind of expect Houston to figure some

648
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: things out on their by Yeah, and I worry that

649
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Baltimore too. You know, these late buys could be pretty

650
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: helpful for Akey Bones. I mean, those teams had to

651
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 2: play twelve games in a row. I mean, I'm sure

652
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: they're very happy about a late buy. Yeah.

653
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 3: The teams that have been eliminated, the Raiders now two

654
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: and eleven. They are have the worst first overall. They

655
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: had the first overall pick.

656
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: Jacksonville one.

657
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, New England three and ten, Tennessee three and ten,

658
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: the Jets three and ten, Jacksonville three and ten, Cleveland

659
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: three and ten.

660
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: It's the haves and the have nots. I mean the

661
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Speaker 2: team the Browns are the best team of that group.

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe the Jets. Yeah, some of the garbage

663
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Speaker 2: teams though.

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Speaker 3: The Jets strength of victory is three fifty nine. Cleveland's

665
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: strength of victory is five thirty eight.

666
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have some good wins. Yeah, the Ravens, you.

667
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: Know, the rest of it's slop. But yeah, those those

668
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: teams losing has not helping the Steelers. For example, that

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Speaker 3: the Raiders going two and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Right, you want those teams to win. Yeah, like that

671
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: seems goofy, but you want the Raiders to win out.

672
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Speaker 3: The Raiders play Atlanta this week.

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Speaker 2: I mean there there'd be a dog against everybody. Yeah,

674
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: but they could win that game.

675
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Speaker 3: We'll see.

676
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

677
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Speaker 3: Over in the NFC, Detroit has clinched at twelve and one.

678
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia is eleven and two, so they gonna be close

679
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: to clinching. They've clinched there.

680
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the playoff.

681
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh. Seattle is the three seed right now at

682
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Speaker 3: eight and five.

683
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Speaker 2: Playing well. I mean, that division's really interesting and that

684
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: win was massive for them. Arizona's the one that could

685
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: took it, took it to the chin yesterday.

686
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay now the four seed at seven and six,

687
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Speaker 3: because I think the time looks like it. They get

688
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 3: some tough games coming up. Actually it's tougher than Atlanta's

689
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

691
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: They have at the Chargers at the Cowboys, the Panthers

692
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: at home, that's no pushover anys can play with, and

693
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Speaker 3: then the Saints at home.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, I mean they lose head to heads

695
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Speaker 2: with Atlanta though, right they can't finish. I think Atlanta's

696
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: got a row.

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Atlanta, well, they've had an easy schedule and they've

698
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: kind of right now. They're the nine seed at six

699
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: and seven because you have Minnesota. There's a five seed

700
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: at eleven and two. I don't know how they keep

701
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: doing it, but they do. Green Bay is nine and four.

702
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: They're the six, and the Commanders at eight and five

703
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: are the seven seed. The Rams right there at seven

704
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: and six, and they said the Rams aren't dead and

705
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the Niners.

706
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: Are dead either.

707
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: The Niners are dead.

708
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Are they eliminated?

709
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: No, but they're the eleven spot right now. Are they

710
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: really going to climb over a bunch of teams because

711
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: right now they are four and five in the conference.

712
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Speaker 2: Oh that's worse than I thought.

713
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, one and three in their division. So they lose

714
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 3: a tie breaker to the card and they.

715
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Speaker 2: Must have to win out then basically, yeah, yeah, they're

716
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Speaker 2: kind of like the Dolphins.

717
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Speaker 3: Atlanta's schedule the rest of the way is uh at

718
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Speaker 3: the Raiders, then they get the Giants at the Commanders,

719
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Speaker 3: and then the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: That could be two and two.

721
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Speaker 3: Two and two won't get it done.

722
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, two and two won't get it done.

723
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Speaker 3: You need to go at least three and one, I

724
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Speaker 3: would think, So you consider benching cousins. It's a rough

725
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: time to do out. Yeah, until you're completely eliminated, I mean,

726
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Speaker 3: which might be never.

727
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean there probably maybe.

728
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: But if if, if that's the case, then you made

729
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: the right decision, because you're not eliminated.

730
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Speaker 2: The thing we don't know is what's it looked like

731
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: in the building. What's panics look like.

732
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Speaker 3: In practice that you barely played in the preseason.

733
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Speaker 2: Which was a mistake. I didn't understan that at all.

734
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Speaker 3: I didn't get it either at the time, and I

735
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: still don't get it. That's where things stand as we

736
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Speaker 3: sit here today. We're gonna take another break. He is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

738
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Speaker 3: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and

739
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Speaker 3: I'll be back to finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

742
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

743
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

744
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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the

745
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and is Well, this is the Drive on

746
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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network and Matt. The stat line shows

747
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: that Miles Garrett had three tackles, a sack, a tackle

748
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: for a lost, three quarterback hits, and a fumble recovery.

749
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Speaker 2: And I'm that seems a little rich, you know, that

750
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: kind of impact, right, Yeah, if you're just looking at

751
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: the stat line. Oh, Miles Garrett had a good game

752
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: against the Steelers. He was mister invisible out there.

753
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, most of that game until the game was

754
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: well decided. He basically kind of I don't want to

755
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: say he lucked into a sack, but again, the Steelers

756
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: weren't interested in like throwing incompletions at that point. And yeah,

757
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: he also rolled into him a little bit and he

758
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: got a sack. The fumble recovery that he got wasn't

759
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Speaker 3: anything he did. But after his sack, he mugs for

760
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: the crowd like he did something like, dude, know the

761
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: you're down twenty points and you're gonna make me crazy in.

762
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Speaker 2: All sports, you know, like score a late touchdown to

763
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: make it fifty one to twelve and celebrate.

764
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Speaker 3: Right, look what I did?

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Speaker 2: Awesome, right, Like I don't understand it at all. I

766
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: just the team game, you know, Like I don't get

767
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: that one bit. And I'm sure he's he knows he's

768
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Speaker 2: enemy number one. And I don't know if he on

769
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Speaker 2: it in every stadium, who knows. But they did a

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Speaker 2: great job on him. They did a great job on him.

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Speaker 3: And again, if you just looked at the stat line,

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, Miles Garrett had a pretty good game,

773
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Speaker 3: It's like, no, he didn't.

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Speaker 2: No, not really. I thought he was okay against the run,

775
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: and he was, you know, you.

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Speaker 3: Watch he had one tackle in the first three quarters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, his tackle numbers are always low. Yeah, and he

778
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Speaker 2: comes and goes Yeah. I mean he was not an

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Speaker 2: impactful player.

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Speaker 3: Not at all. And I don't know, uh, but.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see any real defensive standouts from them. Now,

782
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: Hicks made a lot of play as a linebacker, but

783
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Speaker 2: oh in no, I didn't see much different than the

784
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: first game where Tomlinson and some of those guys were

785
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Speaker 2: real factors. And I wonder the old line's so young.

786
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Speaker 2: I mean, some of those guys played the Browns for

787
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Speaker 2: the first time.

788
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Speaker 3: Is like, man, it's an aggressive scheme and they bring

789
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: a lot of guys want of scrimmage.

790
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Speaker 2: You they'll mug it up and all that stuff too.

791
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Speaker 2: But I wonder if, like the Frasier's and mccorn mix

792
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: of the world, we're like, okay, now I got a

793
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: lot better beat on that team, you know.

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Speaker 3: And you had a full week to prepare for it, right.

795
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's played with all those young offensive linemen

796
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: out there, and you're trying to tell him, no, Schwartz

797
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: is going to be aggressive here and he's going to

798
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 3: do this, and he's going to, you know, put guys

799
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: in the a gap and the b gap to see

800
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: like you're going to see guys at the line of

801
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: scrimmage and you're not going to know exactly who's coming,

802
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: and then they're going to stunt and loop and do

803
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: all that stuff. And it was a much different game.

804
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me wonder. You know, you got this

805
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: game coming up, but then you got three and eleven days.

806
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: I mean, that's going to be a challenge for the

807
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: young guys in particular, but Lineman in particular, to me,

808
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: need to communicate and need to be on the same page.

809
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: And Tomlin's career when he has extended rest, he's an assassin. Yeah,

810
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: but but he's been on short rest. His record's all

811
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: very good. You know, Like does he change things up

812
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: during this stretch coming up? You know, I'm just spitballing here,

813
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: you know.

814
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting here.

815
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: Teams.

816
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it helps that you've played one of

817
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: them once already. It's the Ravens, and you know you're

818
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna be ready for that game. They need

819
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: a full week for the Eagles, that game against the Chiefs.

820
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: It's gonna come quick.

821
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what Andy Reid's record is in short games.

822
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know it's great with extended rest.

823
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: And the same thing with with Tom, except you get

824
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: those guys extended rest, they're gonna they're gonna find your rewards.

825
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Speaker 2: Some of the best coaches out. Yeah, the more time

826
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: you given them more their advantage.

827
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Speaker 3: You're not going to see the Chiefs one ring around

828
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: the rosie or.

829
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Speaker 2: Anything like that. No, I wouldn't think, and I don't

830
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: even know if they do a lot of that kind.

831
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Their red zone stuff is not very good, and so

832
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: they've they've the Shenanigans have been kind of cut out. Yeah,

833
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: once you guys start scoring, maybe we'll do some dancing

834
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: and Branson and stuff. But they're they're working on things.

835
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Speaker 3: At least is is Josh Allen now the m v P.

836
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Speaker 2: I think so. I think Barkley is a case, but

837
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: he might have to set the record. I mean, like

838
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: for people don't know. I mean it's been everywhere. He

839
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: he's already the highest score or highest rushing season in

840
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: Eagles history and it's four games to go. Lashan McCoy

841
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: had the title.

842
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't that long ago. Derrick Henry was very much

843
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: leading the league and rushing by a lot by a lot.

844
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 3: Sakwan's over two hundred yards ahead of him.

845
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: I think he's got five games in a row with

846
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: one hundred plus on the ground. I mean not to

847
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: mention through the air too. I think he has a

848
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: case hurts can't win it. I think Allen's definitely the

849
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: leader in the clubhouse. I'm not sure the book's written

850
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: on Lamar, but he's got a lot of work to do.

851
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: He's not been great, no.

852
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: Especially lately, and his running has been down a little.

853
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: If the Chiefs happen to go sixteen to one, I

854
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: know Mahomes's numbers aren't blow you away, but that's pretty

855
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: darn impressive considering who he's playing with at this point.

856
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: I just think his case is still out there. I

857
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: think you have to mention golf, but I don't think

858
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: his case is as strong as like Allen's. Allan would

859
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: be my vote, but I would say Barkley's the second

860
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: best chance.

861
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing about Mahomes. I was watching that

862
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: game last night. He's been sacked thirty five times.

863
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Now and he feels it. Yeah, and he knows it,

864
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: and it's influenced him a lot. I think it was

865
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: two weeks ago where it wasn't yelling, but he was

866
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: basically like, get Suemataia out of here, you know what

867
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Like this isn't cutting it. Then they go

868
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: signed DJ.

869
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: Humphrees he got hurt last night.

870
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right. I mean, so like every playing back.

871
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: To Jannie Morris again left tackle and that didn't work.

872
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: It hasn't worked yet, yeah, I mean in two years

873
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: he's been there, and Taylor's not great on the right side,

874
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: and there's skill guys don't scare people as much, you know,

875
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: so no, I think he definitely feels the edge presence,

876
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: the pass rush stuff, and it's affects all quarterbacks.

877
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was surprised this week or last week. Late

878
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: last week I was looking at somebody put out a

879
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: three quarters poll All Pro team.

880
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know PFF did one, and probably a couple

881
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: of other people did it.

882
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: Might have been PFF, I can't remember, but they had

883
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: Lane Johnson as the right tackle on the All Pro team.

884
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: I think they're the top two, but Johnson missed a

885
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 2: little bit of time. Yeah, I mean I mentioned it

886
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: earlier in the show. I think this is the best

887
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: tackle group in the league. I think Johnson and Sewell

888
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: are clearly the two best rights worfs Melatta and still

889
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: Trent Williams, but he's showing his age and has other

890
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 2: things going on in his life, unfortunately, are the best

891
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: ones out there. Extremely well coached unit. Makai Becton has

892
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: been good at guard, Dickerson's good at guard, Beef Jergens

893
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: is okay at center. But I think this is the

894
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: second best line in the league behind the Lions.

895
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's going to be a test this week

896
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: for the Steelers.

897
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: But Lane Johnson's a special player. Yeah, that really is.

898
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 3: If he's allowed to get the early kickstart like he

899
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 3: will do every once in a while, then yeah, yeah,

900
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: he's even better. But I will letting that stuff go.

901
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: I mean the Chiefs are the worst. I mean, yeah,

902
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: we talked about Orlando Brown a ton of week ago.

903
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: I understand that they want more scoring. I think that's

904
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: what it comes down to. Yeah, is you know, the

905
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: o'd lineman have a tough enough task as it is.

906
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: How can we help them a little. But it's so

907
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: blatant to the obvious to see who the officiating assignments

908
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: are this week, particularly against that particular team.

909
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: I didn't I don't think or maybe you did. I didn't.

910
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: I never looked into Steelers Browns officiating. I did.

911
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: It was land Clark.

912
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: Okay, what was there? Did it live up to their reputation.

913
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: By and large? Yet they don't call a lot of

914
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: penalties and there weren't. That wasn't a highly generalized game.

915
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 2: No, there was some stuff it could get called, it didn't.

916
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: But oh no, I didn't have a lot of officiating complaints.

917
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean by NFL standards.

918
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: Here was the one instance where you had the late,

919
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: really late, really really really late grounding penalty against Russell Wilson. Yeah.

920
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looked like it was like.

921
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: They're lining up for the next play and all of

922
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: a sudden, the guy comes in and throws the flag

923
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: because replay assists said, no, no, he was that was

924
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: that was ground.

925
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was a questionable.

926
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: There was a receiver there, he threw it over his head.

927
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: If that was grounding, then James Jameis Winston did it

928
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: about six times just today because he threw the ball

929
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: about eighteen feet over top of the receiver's heads.

930
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: Clear Yeah, from inside the tackle box and all that

931
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: stuff too. Yeah, so that's a good example.

932
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 3: But that was that was strange. Then there was also

933
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 3: I think a replay assist on before the fourth down

934
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: play where Landon Roberts had the tackle for a loss,

935
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: the five year loss. They initially set the ball up

936
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: about about halfway to the yard marker to the yard game. Yeah,

937
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: from the it was about so it's basically about a

938
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: foot and a half. Well, then right before the team's

939
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: broke to come to the line of scrimmage, the official

940
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: moved the ball back and made it a full yard.

941
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 3: Oh really, Yeah, Because I'm watching it, I'm like, oh, okay,

942
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 3: so he's going to adjust that right now. And that's

943
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: been happening more and more in the league.

944
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: That's actually where I was going to go with it

945
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: is do you think replay assistant is a positive or

946
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: a negative?

947
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: Not in those situations. Mike Tomlin talked about it after

948
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 3: the Cleveland game actually, because they did it a couple

949
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: of times in that game where they initially put it

950
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: at one spot and then they moved it back a

951
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: little bit and that changes your play call. Though.

952
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not fair to both play either team, right,

953
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean.

954
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: Like there's a big difference between fourth and half a

955
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: yard and fourth in over a yard and maybe.

956
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 2: It doesn't apply to the Eagles, but I was thinking

957
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: they're the best example, like we're touch pushing. Well, now

958
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: it's a little too far.

959
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: Now it's the yard and a half it was before

960
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 3: it was a half yard.

961
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what their magic number is. It's probably

962
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: further than most teams. But you know, like that is

963
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: a big deal. Or what personnel groupings are in the

964
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: in the game, right maybe I'm going shotgun and you

965
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: know I'm not bringing all the jumbos in, you know,

966
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

967
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the toush push is something that's going to be

968
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: a big topic this week.

969
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: Obviously, it is really hard to stop. I kind of

970
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: wish you couldn't. I wouldn't mind changing the rule that

971
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 2: you can't aid a ball in any way. I don't

972
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: love that you can push somebody that doesn't mind a

973
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: quarterback the quarterback sneaksman in the game. Yeah, yeah, that's

974
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: different playing sneak all the time.

975
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: He used to not be allowed to push the guy

976
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: one way or the other.

977
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: Right, Like growing up, if you like, the lineman came

978
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: in and pushed a running back over the line or

979
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: over the goal line.

980
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: The thing that I don't understand is when they're calling

981
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: a play dead in some of these situations. There was

982
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: this instance yesterday where Jaylem Warren is running and all

983
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: of a sudden, everybody's around him, and then the pile

984
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 3: keeps moving, moving, moving.

985
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 2: It's happen a nausea a few times.

986
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, but they've blown it dead like, well,

987
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 3: you're not doing that at the goal line.

988
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: No, just because there's a huge scrum you're fighting. And

989
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: last year the tush push was a bigger conversation because

990
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: it was new and it was you know, undefeated basically,

991
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: and not every team was trying it. But I thought

992
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna lead the injuries. I mean, I know

993
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: hurts the big strong guy, but would you really want

994
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: to tight.

995
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: End put not jam it running into his back.

996
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 2: Into my back where I really don't have control of

997
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: my body and I'm trying to fall forward, and it

998
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: just seems like you could be really vulnerable. Yeah, some

999
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: of those situations hurt that I know of, But some of.

1000
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: Those situations with the quarterbacks in particular, when they do

1001
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: you know, the sneak. In those situations, you see the

1002
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: initial drive stopped, Yeah, and then somebody comes running in

1003
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: and pushing matches into you like it. If it's stopped,

1004
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: it stopped, like if it's stopped at midfield on a

1005
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: running back, then why is it Why is it not

1006
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: stopped in those situations.

1007
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: That it does need. It's definitely a competition committee thing

1008
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: to talk about.

1009
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'd like to see that done away with

1010
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: those again. You see linemen come running in and smash

1011
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: the guy. The gues's not how long the defense have

1012
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: to hold upright? Like to your point, yeah, I don't.

1013
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: I do think replay assistant it has been a good

1014
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: thing overall. I know it could be frustrating. You just

1015
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: need to be quicker.

1016
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: I bet it's better next year in the year after,

1017
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: you know, because sometimes they don't explain it well either.

1018
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

1019
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: I mean, some of the announcers on the games too,

1020
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: You don't you're talking about if the announcers don't know,

1021
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: how do you expect the coaches to know what's going on?

1022
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's gotta be tough on the coach.

1023
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: Tomlin talked about that then some of those situations like

1024
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: he couldn't in Cleveland, he couldn't hear the officials explanation

1025
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: because they were having problems with the mics because of

1026
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: the weather. Yeah, yeah, and so and all of a sudden,

1027
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: you're moving the ball and like, tell me what's going on?

1028
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: What's going on here? That's why there were some of

1029
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: those instances where they're rushing guys on and off on

1030
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: some fourth down stuff, because yeah, it wasn't.

1031
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: It wasn't immediately like the coaches know when replay assistance

1032
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: is even happening. I think it's just in the ear again.

1033
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm watching that yesterday and the guy moves the ball

1034
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: back a full yard almost and there was nobody. There

1035
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: was no explanation, he just did it.

1036
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean like Tomlin and Sefanski aren't any more

1037
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 2: clued in than me or you.

1038
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: Now, if I hadn't been watching, I'm like, I wouldn't

1039
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: have noticed that.

1040
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: They don't run over and explain it to him. Yeah. Yeah,

1041
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: so that's a little goofy at the moment.

1042
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But you know what else is goofy?

1043
00:44:59,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1044
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: It's a goofy that this show is coming to an end. Yeah,

1045
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: we keep talking about this stuff for hours. I'm sure

1046
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: Matt and I will be texting back and forth tonight

1047
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: as we watch Bengals and Cowboys.

1048
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: That yeah, absolutely the Bengals to win. Yeah, yeah, that

1049
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: helps the Steelers a little bit, yeah, a little bit.

1050
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: So anyways, for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller

1051
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline, and the

1052
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: soundboard here for us make sure we get out on

1053
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Speaker 2: the air. And for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video

1054
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: gets out there on YouTube.

1055
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Speaker 3: I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 3: this edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.