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Speaker 1: I'm John, This is three and our podcast, and I

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Speaker 1: gotta give the content gods a big time fist bound

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Speaker 1: because we got a massive trade this morning on a

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Speaker 1: Broncos and Sean Payton made a bold move to trade

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Speaker 1: My first reactions to both after I kind of let

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Speaker 1: it marinate. Some thoughts how this impacts Howie Roseman and

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Speaker 1: these recruits. He's a nine to us. Some thoughts on

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Speaker 1: middlecoff mail bag, not a big one. Probably say that

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire in those d ms and

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Speaker 1: appreciate all you guys for listening and us grinding through

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Speaker 1: the dog days of the offseason. Then that'd probably be

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Speaker 1: like June, this is this is not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: got I got crazy. Yeah, let's dive it. As a

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Speaker 1: They trade for Jalen Waddle, former number six overall pick,

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Speaker 1: very productive young player, never been a Pro Bowl or

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Speaker 1: who's under under contract. They get a fourth rounder with

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Speaker 1: And my original thought when I kind of gave it

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton is obsessed with Week one and winning in

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Speaker 1: And then in twenty twenty seven, you've had a good

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Speaker 1: And if I was a Dolphins fan, this year is

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Speaker 1: this has massive, massive ripple effects because when DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: for pick sixty, I think Howie was like, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: AJ is much more accomplished, three times second team All Pro. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: when he's right, he's one of the I don't know

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Speaker 1: best five wide receivers in the league. Physically, he's just

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Speaker 1: a beast like that trade, Like, I'm hanging up. If

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Speaker 1: you're offering me picks in the late fifties, right, then

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Speaker 1: this happens this morning. And if you're Howie, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you call on AJ Brown, this is the world

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Speaker 1: we're in. And let's be real. AJ Brown is way

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Speaker 1: more accomplished than this guy. So if they're doing a

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Speaker 1: pick swap in the fourth they're getting a third and

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Speaker 1: a first round pick. Like, if you start the conversation

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Speaker 1: with less than that, like, I'm just going to hang

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Speaker 1: up on you, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I will keep the player before I give him. Do

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Speaker 1: you for like a second and a fourth round pick?

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Speaker 1: That is not happening. The market is now set. We

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Speaker 1: talk about it in real estate all the time. If

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Speaker 1: your next door neighbor's house sells for six hundred grand

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Speaker 1: and you live right next to him, same floor plan,

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Speaker 1: similar lot, and you're trying to sell for one point

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Speaker 1: five million dollars, good luck, buddy, godspeed. The market is

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Speaker 1: no different In football. Player comps are a big deal,

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Speaker 1: whether it's free agency or trades. And I think the

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Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle trade for all the teams in the AJ

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Speaker 1: Brown sweepstakes gotta be like, Holy Sean, did you really

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Speaker 1: have to do that? Because how He can't in good

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Speaker 1: conscious conscience pull the trigger on a trade that at

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Speaker 1: minimum is an exact That so a pick in the

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Speaker 1: late twenties and a third round pick, and let's be

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Speaker 1: really probably want more. I mean, Trent McDuffie, who is

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Speaker 1: a multiple time All Pro, widely considered one of, if

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Speaker 1: not the best slot corners, and can be a really

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Speaker 1: good player outside as well, got traded for pick twenty

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Speaker 1: nine and a bunch of stuff in the sixth and

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Speaker 1: seventh round. Now that was a little more complicated because

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Speaker 1: they had to give him a big contract extension. But

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Speaker 1: like pick twenty nine's last time I checked, a lot

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Speaker 1: more valuable than late second round picks. You take pick

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Speaker 1: twenty nine over a second and a third late in

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Speaker 1: each round. And that's where I think it got really complicated.

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Speaker 1: And we've been saying for a while the AJ Brown

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Speaker 1: situation feels like it's at a little bit of a halt,

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Speaker 1: feels like it's not really moving. I actually think this

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Speaker 1: makes it even worse because Howie's market is kind of set,

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Speaker 1: like I want more than what they just got, Right,

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Speaker 1: It's not like Jalen Wattles, you know, the big thing

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Speaker 1: on You know, you traded two first round picks for

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby's twenty eight years old, gonna turn twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Google how old dayla Watta is not exactly like he's

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old, twenty eight years old. So I

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Speaker 1: think that factors into the AJ situation, and I think

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Speaker 1: it complicates it dramatically for the New England Patriots who

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Speaker 1: have been rumored to not just be interested. But it

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, right you put him with

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Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs, get him with Mike Rabel. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we want your late first round pick, and I mean

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Speaker 1: at minimum, like a second round next year. That would

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Speaker 1: be like the starting point if you're only willing to

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Speaker 1: give us one pick this year, Like we're gonna need

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Speaker 1: something very valuable next year, and it's gonna be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I think how we people have been saying like he's

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Speaker 1: been asking for a lot, I don't. Not only does

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Speaker 1: that not change, now you could argue he asked for more,

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Speaker 1: which makes this really fun. I'm really glad this happened.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sean Payton, Thanks you for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you guys doing business on a slow week.

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Speaker 1: I clicked on because it came up on my feed.

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby who did a podcast about the day or

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Speaker 1: the couple days when he got traded and then when

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Speaker 1: he flew back there and kind of broke it down,

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Speaker 1: how it all went down, and clearly he was pretty

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Speaker 1: rattled and it was probably a crazy moment for him.

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Speaker 1: He said he's never experienced anything quite like that. The

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Speaker 1: one thing that he said that really stood out is

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Speaker 1: because he had some prior engagements, he didn't get there

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Speaker 1: till Tuesday morning to the team facility, and he said

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Speaker 1: when he showed up to the team facility, he didn't

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Speaker 1: see the head coach or the GM. He didn't see

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Speaker 1: either one of those guys till the end of the day. Now,

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Speaker 1: in my experience, when you trade for a player, I

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Speaker 1: remember when I was with the Eagles and we traded

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Speaker 1: for Demico Ryans, who, if memory serves me correct, it

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Speaker 1: was like a fourth round pick. So this wasn't some

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby hall you know who he was a me

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Speaker 1: imediately greeted by or whether it was me or someone

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Speaker 1: else when you meet him at the front office or

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Speaker 1: the front gate. When Don brought him in, you bring

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Speaker 1: him right to Howie and Andy. That's immediately what you do.

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Speaker 1: How often do we see videos when a player is

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Speaker 1: traded for and he walks through the double doors of

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Speaker 1: the team facility, who is typically waiting to talk to him,

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Speaker 1: the coach or the GM are both Why Because it's

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Speaker 1: a really big deal when you trade, especially anything of

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Speaker 1: value for the player. I said this last week, and

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Speaker 1: after hearing him, I believe it even more. I think

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Speaker 1: before he even got the physical, they had pivoted to

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Speaker 1: Trey because they knew the number had come down dramatically,

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Speaker 1: and they realize, like, let's just put him through the uh,

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Speaker 1: the process of the physical and then bow out. I

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Speaker 1: think the moment Max Crosby walked through those doors and

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Speaker 1: was sent to the different doctors in Baltimore, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: were already pivoting. Believe that, and I think by the

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Speaker 1: actions of the front office and listen, it's their prerogative.

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Speaker 1: Nothing is official. I like, at one point in time

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Speaker 1: I would say it was really sleazy and shady, and

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Speaker 1: I get what people are saying, but the rules are

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Speaker 1: the rules. It's like we see it in college football,

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Speaker 1: it's like, how are you sending dms to another guy

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Speaker 1: and another roster off because that's the rules right now,

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Speaker 1: there aren't any and to me in a period where

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Speaker 1: nothing is official, like I have less anger or emotion

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Speaker 1: for like people saying like, actually I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do this. Now you can say it's not great business,

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Speaker 1: it's not above board. They clearly got cold feet, though,

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Speaker 1: and they pivoted, and they knew they could pivot with

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson. So when Max says that he goes through

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't see the GM or the head coach

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Speaker 1: after they just traded for two first round picks for

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Speaker 1: the player till way after he does the medical, I

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Speaker 1: call BS and then he said the moment and he

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Speaker 1: went to the office, he could tell something was way off,

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Speaker 1: and he finds finds out that they're backing out. So listen,

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Speaker 1: I think the entire league believes that the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: before he ever stepped foot over the course of Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday, once they saw the market play out,

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Speaker 1: that they could get their picks back because they weren't

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Speaker 1: like contractually bound and the league office had an officially

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Speaker 1: rubber stamp that this trade had gone through, had moved,

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Speaker 1: had changed their mind, which for a lot of us.

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Speaker 1: Right when you buy a car, you buy a house,

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Speaker 1: you buy things, you change your mind all the time.

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Speaker 1: I said this example the other day. My wife's in

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Speaker 1: real estate. I see her have buyers and sellers change

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Speaker 1: their mind constantly and back out of deals. It's pretty abnormal.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't typically happen at this level. But that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what the Baltimore Ravens did when they can say the

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Speaker 1: physical stuff. As rap Sheet said that day, there is

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Speaker 1: no such thing as a failed physical These things aren't

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Speaker 1: black and white. It's all subjective. But I think it

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Speaker 1: was an easy one to say, we're not comfortable with it.

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Speaker 1: We're not comfortable with what we see. Even though the doctor,

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Speaker 1: doctor Elatross, who works on all the top guys, all

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Speaker 1: the players, all the athletes, has been added it. He's

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Speaker 1: completely fine, this looks completely normal. He is going to

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Speaker 1: be healthy. They didn't give a shit what he said

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Speaker 1: because it didn't matter, because he could have said whatever.

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Speaker 1: Their minds were already made up. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: I understand it. I've probably backed out of stuff. You've

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Speaker 1: backed out of stuff. It's kind of life unless you

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Speaker 1: are contractually bound or whatever business you're in, like the

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Speaker 1: NFL officially, you know, like you can't pivot. The deal's

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Speaker 1: done in these situations like it's it's ripe to happen

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Speaker 1: more honestly, with this, with this period where nothing is

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Speaker 1: official yet, everything is going on because if you see something,

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Speaker 1: if you see a better option, there's a very competitive league.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, and I'm not defending the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: my point is simply like this was an option for them.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't an option, Max Crosby'd be on the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. They would have had no choice. But it

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Speaker 1: was an option. And then they started weighing their options

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Speaker 1: and they knew there was an off ramp, and that

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Speaker 1: off ramp was yeah, we're not comfortable with the medical.

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Speaker 1: That was their off ramp. And as Max says, flies

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Speaker 1: back to the Raiders, comes in the next morning, tells everyone,

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Speaker 1: I'm all in. He's fired up on all the signings

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Speaker 1: and now he's on the Raiders. And everything happens for

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Speaker 1: a reason. This was a guy that didn't even want

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Speaker 1: you know, forever, like wanted to be loyal. Things got

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Speaker 1: weird at the end of last year. Uh, clearly they

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Speaker 1: have pivoted, and now I would just expect Matt Leiner

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Speaker 1: to be on the Raiders moving forward. The other story

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Speaker 1: I saw was Matt Liner, legendary USC quarterback, Heisman Trophy winner,

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Speaker 1: national champion, says I think I don't know if he

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Speaker 1: was on a podcast or an interview, said that people

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Speaker 1: out about unretiring his number to use to give to

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Speaker 1: a recruit, and every single time he laughs, he goes,

643
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Speaker 1: I'm not unretiring my number for you to give due

644
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: a recruit who could be gone in six months. And

645
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: I started thinking, like in this day and age of NIL,

646
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: which is all over the map, I mean, LSU's currently

647
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: be ensued for using their public funds on revenue sharing.

648
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: They're trying to not show how much they're given because

649
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: they are these new rules. This company has to vet

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00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: all the NIL deals, and all these teams have thirty

651
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: forty fifty million dollars rosters. Yet there's only been one

652
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty million dollars in NIL deals that have

653
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: been vetted and approved. So we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: moving parts here. But The one thing I know, if

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Speaker 1: you're a college football fan, which I am and I

656
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: know many of you are, that when a player walks

657
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: onto campus, whether it's a massive recruit. And USC had

658
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: a top recruiting class. Now, a big reason for that

659
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: was not because they have some fantastic recruiting pitch, not

660
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: because they've been winning a bunch of playoff games over

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00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: the course of the last three or four years. It's

662
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: because California now has a rule that a bunch of

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00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: other states do not, that they can pay the guys

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Speaker 1: give them their nil signing bonus while they are still

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00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: in high school. So they are paying these guys upfront

666
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: cash to get them to commit. The other guys are

667
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: just signing a contract for when they get to campus

668
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Speaker 1: then they start getting paid. Which I don't blame USC

669
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: for taking advantage of that, but let's be real. They're

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: getting these guys simply because of the money loophole that

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: they have working to their advantage. I think the money

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Speaker 1: was all equal, a lot of these guys would end

673
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: up in other programs. How would they not. USC The

674
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: brand recognition is nowhere near what it was in the

675
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: liner days. Honestly, it's it's pretty bad, right, And so

676
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: when I see Liner saying no, that is one hundred

677
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: percent the right move. Some of these kids don't even

678
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: spend spring ball on campus. The amount of stories I've

679
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: heard and read about a kid coming into school early

680
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: at the end of the winner, going through springball, and

681
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: then putting himself in the transfer portal before the summer

682
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: is happening constantly. Now there is no structure to the operation,

683
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: and unlike the NFL, you know, I see a lot

684
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Speaker 1: of this. They need to collectively bargain. Well, why would

685
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: the players collectively bargain? They get everything they want now.

686
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: The reason the NFL players are always pushing back is

687
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: because they want more because the owners, what they feel,

688
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: are horror and doing everything they can to pay them

689
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: the least amount of possible. Right now, if you're a

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00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: player in college football or basketball, you're in one hundred

691
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Speaker 1: percent control. You can leave whatever you want you can,

692
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: especially if you're a good player, you could ask for

693
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Speaker 1: whatever you want. You're gonna have multiple people willing to

694
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Speaker 1: pay you. So in what world would they come to

695
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Speaker 1: the table and be like, we want to work with

696
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: you right now and listen for a long time. They

697
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: got royally screwed. I mean, obviously a lot of programs

698
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: like USC we're giving these guys brown bags, but there's

699
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: a big difference in yeah, I'm getting seven figures and

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: getting twenty grand in cash in a brown bag and

701
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: maybe a least for a car. Now I get the car,

702
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: I get the seven figures, and I don't even need

703
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: to go to school. And if it doesn't go well,

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Speaker 1: I will hit the transfer portal and I will get

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Speaker 1: that money from someone else. Before you were kind of stuck,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't transfer because you wouldn't want to sit out

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Speaker 1: a year. So I think Lioner's point is more of

708
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: a reflection of the current status of college football of

709
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: you can't feel good about any player staying for any

710
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: length of time. And it's always been that way with

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Speaker 1: coaches unless at the top. You know several universities where

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Speaker 1: it's like Ryan Day leave in Ohio State, Kirby leaving

713
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Speaker 1: Georgia unless they go to the NFL, which I don't

714
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Speaker 1: think anyone's held it against the college coach for leaving

715
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Speaker 1: for an NFL job. It's when they start bouncing around,

716
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a lame kiffen. But at

717
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Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, well, most coaches in the

718
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Speaker 1: history of the sport would have left Ole Miss for LSU,

719
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Like that's not a crazy move. But it's gonna be

720
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Speaker 1: fascinating to watch this all play out. I think a

721
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of people don't quite comprehend the NIL that they're

722
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Speaker 1: trying to regulate it and all these numbers getting vetted,

723
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: and none of these teams and coaches are following that

724
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Speaker 1: vetting process because they'll just do whatever it takes to

725
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Speaker 1: get the player on campus as they should and have

726
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: the NCAA Now. You could also argue that the ncuble

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00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: that the sport of college football, with the money now

728
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: that it's getting funneled to the players, has outgrown the

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Speaker 1: nc double A. And when I was in Indie for

730
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Speaker 1: the combine, you see the NCAA offices, You're like, yeah,

731
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much longer you got. You guys

732
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: are in major trouble. And it's also complicated stuff with

733
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Speaker 1: if you start playing paying the players collectively bargained the

734
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: athletic department basically crumbles. Basketball would survive, but basically every sport,

735
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: all the women's sports, all the non revenue guy sports,

736
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Speaker 1: they just they don't pencil I mean, they've never penciled,

737
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: but they've always been subsidized by football. If football ever

738
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Speaker 1: starts keeping their money, Like the NFL doesn't subsidize men's soccer, right,

739
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't subsidize the softball team flying all around.

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Speaker 1: They don't pay for any of that shit in college

741
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: football team's cutting the checks for all that stuff. The

742
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: volleyball coach, where do you think that money comes from

743
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: the revenue from the football team, And rightfully so, like

744
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: that's just the model of the business. But that is

745
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: dramatically changed, and I think we're only heading for more

746
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: change when it comes to kind of that avenue. Let's

747
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Speaker 1: bang out a couple quick mailbag questions. I'm recording this

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Speaker 1: before the WBC game USA against Venezuela. I have watched.

749
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Speaker 1: I mean, Italians had a hell of a run. It

750
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: kind of sucks. Ideally it would be Japan against America

751
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: for Otani, but this tournament has been fantastic and I

752
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: think it will just go with this question. Your podcast

753
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: continues to help me get through the workday. Not a

754
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: football question, but watching the WBC and just baseball as

755
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: a whole. I gotta admit it's grown on me. I

756
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: started only paying attention recently these past few years because

757
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: I've been hitting some parlays a lot of good and

758
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: wanted to know what I was betting. But now after

759
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: watching it, I'm at the point where it's just really

760
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: entertaining keep up the good work. I think one thing

761
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: is very evident when things feel big and this is

762
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: a problem. Like baseball regular season can be a slog,

763
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: the basketball regular season is now an abomination. It's like

764
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: the teams don't even care. How am I supposed to care?

765
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: And when events feel impactful and important. I've said this forever,

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00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: like I'm not into like dungeons and dragons, but when

767
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: I felt like everyone's watching Game of Thrones, I got

768
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: a little foma. That's not the type show. If it

769
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: wasn't some massive hit, I wouldn't have watched it, But

770
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: like I had to watch because I kind of like

771
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: keeping track of the big shows that everyone else is watching,

772
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: and typically the top shows that feel like are pretty

773
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: universally agreed upon's a great show. I'm in agreement as well.

774
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: That was one like this isn't really my speed, but

775
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: there's enough violence and sex that like I'm in like

776
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: what I normally watch a show with dragons. No, but

777
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: it feels important, like I gotta watch And the baseball

778
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: playoffs have really felt like that, right with Otani the

779
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: last couple of years in the Dodgers, they feel big.

780
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: This is a problem for basketball, like the Oklahoma City

781
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: thunder are, I mean more likely they went back to

782
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: back championships. It doesn't feel that important to watch them.

783
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: It really doesn't. And they're having a great run. And

784
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: if you live in that area, it's gotta be badass.

785
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: I grew up around a small market team in the

786
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings, Like I get it, but I also understand

787
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 1: now from my point of view of like I don't care.

788
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: I will not watch them if it's not Steph Curry,

789
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: if it's not Luke and Lebron, and it's not Jokic's

790
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm not turning on the game because I don't

791
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like it matters. And baseball, this is where the

792
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Dodgers are important, Like they do feel like they matter

793
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: because and a huge part of that is Otani in

794
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: this dynasty. Like I was living in the Bay Area

795
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: when Kevin Durant came to the Warriors, like he kind

796
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: of had to pay attention when Lebron was on the heat,

797
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: people like, and let's face it, like we argue over

798
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: what's the number two overall sport. My guy, Ethan Strauss

799
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: wrote an article going back and forth with basketball and baseball.

800
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Basketball is way bigger in the twenty tens, and now

801
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: baseball the World Series is outdraw in the NBA Finals.

802
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: I've come to the conclusion there is no number two

803
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: sport in America. It's just all kind of up for grabs.

804
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: And when you have the right stars, the right momentum,

805
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: the right brands, you can grab that slot. But right

806
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: now football is in its own stratosphere and everyone's fighting

807
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: for scraps. And if basketball, if you get the right

808
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: if you get a Steph Curry, if you get a

809
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: Lebron in the mix, like, people are gonna pay attention.

810
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: Like the casual fan is just not gonna watch ok

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Speaker 1: Se san Antonio. I promise you they're not no different

812
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: than the casual fan is not watching two small markets

813
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: in baseball playing the World Series. But if you tell

814
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Speaker 1: me it's Dodgers and Yankees making runs like, people are

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Speaker 1: paying attention. And if you tell me Rory last year

816
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: winning the Masters that peaked at nineteen. The put in

817
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: perspective the NBA Finals last year Indiana and Okay, see,

818
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Speaker 1: the first six games didn't top ten million in any

819
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: of the games. Why because it doesn't feel like I

820
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: have to watch, and the WBC has gained some momentum

821
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: where it just feels kind of important. Now does that

822
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: lead into the regular season? I don't know, but it's

823
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: hard to watch these games and think like this is

824
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: a really good product, this is really entertaining. And where

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00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm at now as a diehard sports fan and in

826
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: my twenties and even most of my thirties, I watched everything.

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Speaker 1: I watched every Giants game, I watched every NBA game

828
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Speaker 1: on TNT. Obviously, I watched football, college and the pros.

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Speaker 1: I just I am one hundred. I'm all in on football,

830
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: and I watch golf, and then I watch things that matter.

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Speaker 1: So what am I gonna watch the NCAA tournament right,

832
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: the Masters, which I would watch no matter what, but

833
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby. Do I like horse racing? I do not?

834
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: But do I pay attention to the Kentucky Derby? I do?

835
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: I know everyone talked about like Jake Paul fighting Anthony

836
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 1: Joshua or Mike Tyson. It feels like a lot of

837
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Speaker 1: people are watching. So what do I do? I turn

838
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that motherfucker on. That's how I consume these events. So

839
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: if you don't feel big and I don't feel like

840
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people are watching you, and now that

841
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: I have the numbers, I know if they are not,

842
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't pay attention. I just pay attention to the

843
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: stuff that matters non football and golf, and it clearly

844
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: so does the rest of America because we've never been

845
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: more fragmented. We've never had more options, whether it's our phone,

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00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: whether it's the streaming apps, whether it's whatever. Like part

847
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Speaker 1: of the newspaper, I said this when everyone freaked out

848
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Speaker 1: all the journals, when the Washington Post laid off all

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00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: their sports section people. Everyone's like Jeff Bezos, that scumbag

850
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: rich guy. It's like, hey, you know you're blaming the

851
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: wrong person. You should blame me because historically I read

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00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: the sports section. You couldn't pay me to do that.

853
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Speaker 1: Now the consumer habits have changed and the way and listen,

854
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Speaker 1: this is why Adam Silver went with the NBA Cup,

855
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily they know if it's working or not.

856
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: But like I applaud the effort. He's trying to make

857
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: something important that feels big and for people to watch,

858
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: and whether it works or not, only time will tell.

859
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: But like that's his mindset and I do understand it.

860
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: The WBC didn't work that long ago. When I was

861
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: at Fox with Colin a couple weeks ago, he was like, yeah,

862
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: five million people watched the game the previous night, and

863
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: this was before elimination stages. It just became big, feels big,

864
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: and people are paying attention. I'm sorry, but you and

865
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: Colin are super dreamy about Mendoza. I'm sorry, but if

866
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about the number one overall pick and his

867
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: comparison is Kirk Cousins, you can't take him number one

868
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: overall quarterback inflation cannot be that bad trade down like

869
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: the Bears. Well one, he's a better prospect than Kirk Cousins.

870
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: But if you told me his career was Kirk Cousins,

871
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins has proven if you do a good

872
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: job building the team, you can go to the playoffs.

873
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: He went to the playoffs with Minnesota. He went to

874
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You go twice with Minnesota. Where was he

875
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: trying to think? Of his career. Did you go with it? Ever? Washington?

876
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: They had a good team in Minnesota couple years ago

877
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: when they won twelve games and they lost in that

878
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: first round of the Giants, but like they had a

879
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: really good team. I think Mendez is a better prospect.

880
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: But if you told the Raiders that you were gonna

881
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: get the Kirk Cousin good version for like seven eight years,

882
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: they would take that. They really would. The problem is

883
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: when your comp is to Kirk Cousins, a lot of

884
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: times that player turns into Kenny Pickett because Kirk cousins

885
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: ceiling is not that high. But Kirk Cousins reached his ceiling.

886
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: So to me, if you can get Kirk Cousins his

887
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: ceiling what he became, and you have a guy that

888
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: you're drafting who actually has a higher ceiling than Kirk Cousins,

889
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer number one pick. Like I saw

890
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: this article about Russell Wilson today. Russell Wilson, who knows

891
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: he might be done playing in the NFL. His only

892
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: options potentially could be some veteran minimum options. Who knows

893
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: if he'd even take that one point three million dollars.

894
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: Who knows if anyone's even gonna want him, and I

895
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: think things have turned so negative. Like you know, Russell

896
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Wilson the way these last four or five years has

897
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: been an embarrassment. His career has been a raging success.

898
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: He was a third round pick who made three hundred

899
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: and fifteen million dollars, who won a Super Bowl as

900
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, who went back to a Super bowls starting quarterback,

901
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: and then became a consistent Pro Bowl player whose team

902
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: was making the playoffs. Russell Wilson changed the sport. It

903
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: made people believe that small quarterbacks could play in the

904
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: National Football League at a high level. And as we've

905
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: learned since Russell Wilson, that is extremely hit or miss,

906
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: and Russell is an outlier. But like Kirk Cousins, gets

907
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: act like he's some scrub. I saw Kirk Cousins beat

908
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints in a playoff game. I remember

909
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: witnessing that in New Orleans. That happened game winning throw.

910
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: So that was he. I guess that was with Mike

911
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: zimmer So he won a playoff game, he lost another one.

912
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: But when he was on a good team, he could

913
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and honestly, give you a chance to

914
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: win a playoff game as he did. So there's a

915
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: fine line, like, Tua, you were never winning a playoff

916
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: game with two a tongue, Bay Little was never happening,

917
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: But you're the one playoff games with Jordan Love. If

918
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: I told you that Fernando Mendoza is Jordan Love, he'd

919
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: be like, I like a little more. I'd be like,

920
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: I'd pull that. I'd pull the trigger immediately if you

921
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: told me that was Jordan Love. Have you watched the Raiders?

922
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: You see what they're playing with? Do you see what

923
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: most quarterback plays like? Yeah, you want Patrick Mahomes or

924
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Guess what? Those guys aren't grown on trees.

925
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Last time I checked. I don't see many Lamar Jackson's

926
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: running around. Most of these guys are pretty rare of

927
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: the top guys. It's like if you're playing football in

928
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: Night ninety two, It's like, yeah, there aren't many Damn Marino,

929
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: John Elways and Steve Young's rolling around. But if you

930
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: can get a solid starter like you can win with,

931
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: and if that guy can maximize his career and you

932
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 1: can do a good job building all of a sudden,

933
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Rich Cannon wins an MVP. Until Rich Canna got to

934
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders, he was not viewed as a good player.

935
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: If a guy has the requisite talent and has the intangibles,

936
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: wiring and work ethic, it's on the GM and coach

937
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And that's where I think we

938
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: are with Fernanda Mendozo. It's pressures on Spy Tech and

939
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: Kubiak headed to Scott's Sale for the Grass League Championship.

940
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Any res in Old Town, thanks, dude, I would say

941
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: the mission. I would say, the Mission's a spot that's

942
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: excellent if you want to go a little bit past

943
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: Old Town toward like Paradise Valley. Houston's is my favorite restaurant.

944
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: I went there. I used to live pretty close. I

945
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: went there probably twenty five times. I haven't been back

946
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: because I don't live that close to it now, but

947
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: I think about it. I don't know, twice a week

948
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: they have a dish, the rib dish. It's just it's

949
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: it's elite. I mean, it's Houston's is one of those

950
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: It's like perfect for me. It's it's a nice restaurant,

951
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: but you could go in T shirt and a hat

952
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: and the prices are not crazy like steakhouse, but you

953
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: can get a real elite meal and it's got a

954
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: good vibe. It's just it's one of my favorite spots

955
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: in Scott's sale. We will end on this the Dad Diaries,

956
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: follow up on your dad Diary. When my daughter was

957
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: eighteen or was a baby, she's eighteen now, she had

958
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: a major blowout. I put her on the changing table,

959
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: then she started doing the alligator death roll slinging shit

960
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: all over the room, shit covered hands on the wall,

961
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: all over her and myself. I just put her in

962
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: the tub to clean her off. Took me over two

963
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: hours to clean her the room, then myself. Good times ahead, bro,

964
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: We have not got the ability to do any roles yet.

965
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: I didn't go to the appointment yesterday, but he had

966
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: like a couple month check up. And for those of

967
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: you that have had young babies, you know tummy time.

968
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: It like builds their neck muscles. You basically put them

969
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: on their stomach and if they're not on their stomach enough,

970
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: it can like flatten the back of their head. So

971
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: you got to try to work on tummy time. It's

972
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: something we probably haven't done a great job of. Got

973
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: to do a little more tummy time, but he can't

974
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: roll it, can't really even crawl yet. One problem we're

975
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: having is he's at almost a nine week mark, trying

976
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: to get a little rhythm right, trying to get some consistency. Now.

977
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: As a wise man told me a while back, it's

978
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: like you can want, you can read all the books

979
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: you want. Every kid's a little different. They all kind

980
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: of beat to their own drum. You can try and

981
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: eventually it will work, but you're gonna go a stretch

982
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: where I mean, she's on chat GPT, she's showing. I mean,

983
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: she logs every time he eats, every time he sleeps.

984
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: She gave all the information to chat GBT and was

985
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: basically begging the AI robot to break down the schedule

986
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: that we should keep him on. And this chat GBT

987
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: schedule that it spit back at us was fucking incredible.

988
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 1: I mean, we got this thing laminated, printed out. We're

989
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: just all fired up, just just full of piss and

990
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: vinegar excited. We're like, we're gonna he's gonna sleep like

991
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: three different naps. He'll be in bed by nine, he'll

992
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: sleep till like three or four. That'll be his first feeding.

993
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: He'll go back to bed, till like eight first day's

994
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: been a disaster. I mean, this kid is it's like

995
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: he free based red bull. I mean the energy he has.

996
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: He's been up, he's been screaming sounds, he's doing like

997
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: ninja punches and kicks. He's shitting all over the place.

998
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: He's like, you guys want me to nap. I not

999
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: on my watch, Homie. And today has been pretty brutal.

1000
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: And I see what she goes through. I can't the

1001
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: respect I have for the women that just spent all

1002
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: day every day with these newborns and infants in the

1003
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: first several months. It is really mentally taxing. It is.

1004
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: I've done some hard jobs in my life. I got

1005
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: thrown on the ranch the hoeing crew in one hundred

1006
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: and fifteen degrees. I've worked crazy construction jobs that are

1007
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: physically taxing. I've obviously had some mentally taxing jobs working

1008
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: for Howie that are just pressure in the stress. There

1009
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: is nothing quite like this where you just you have

1010
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: no answers and there's just not much you can do,

1011
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: and then you get moments where they're crying and you're

1012
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: just like, man, I have no clue, I don't you

1013
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: just had a loss I mean, you're firing questions off

1014
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: the Chad GPT, you're calling your friends, you're just hitting

1015
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: your knees and praying. You're just trying to make it

1016
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: to the next day. And there's a lot of I mean,

1017
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: the lack of sleep, like she said she hasn't really

1018
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: slept in eight eight weeks. Just the night where she

1019
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: just gets to go to bed at ten o'clock and

1020
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: wake up at seven, Like, those days just are not

1021
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: only non existent, you know every single night that I'm

1022
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna be woken up multiple times and just gonna be

1023
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: tired constantly. It's one of those one you gotta nap

1024
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: when they're napping, well, he doesn't nap for like longer

1025
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: than an hour. And as you get older, it's harder

1026
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: to just lay down in the middle of the day

1027
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: and take a fucking snooze when you got a million

1028
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: other things to do. So it's it's a grind. I

1029
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: would say this anyone thinking about it, just as as

1030
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: my former producer who's now on the Joe and Jada podcast,

1031
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: James told me buckle up, that's what he said, And

1032
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: at first I was like, Ah, this guy, you know

1033
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: that's that That is the advice I will give to

1034
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: every future parent. Buckle up because you can. You can

1035
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: be told, you can hear the worst stories. You can

1036
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: see your family members or your close friends have babies,

1037
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: but you can always hop in your car and go home. Hell,

1038
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: you can stay with them and kind of see it.

1039
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: Go through a day or two at the lake wherever, vacation,

1040
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: day after day after day after day. She used to

1041
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: joke with me when she was pregnant and say, you know,

1042
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a day to relax for the

1043
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: next eighteen twenty years. I used to be like bullshit,

1044
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: And I don't believe that because as he gets older,

1045
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: of friends will play golf like love normal life. But

1046
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: as one of you guys dm me a while back,

1047
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: it's the fog of war and it is relentless, and

1048
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: you're in it, and you're looking around and there's I

1049
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: think she had said something. She's on Instagram, And it

1050
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: is true of all the animals. If you just take

1051
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: the animal kingdom right, bears, lions, birds, you name it, dogs.

1052
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: A child is the only you know, thing that's born

1053
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: and immediately for the foreseeable future can't do a goddamn

1054
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: thing by itself. So without its parents, it's guardians whoever's

1055
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: watching over it. Like you watch enough Animal Planet, like

1056
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: after a while these lions, you know, a couple months

1057
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: in you start figuring out a way you walk around.

1058
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: You can just find water, You just do things. They

1059
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: can do nothing, and it's all on you. And it's listen,

1060
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: it's fun. It's a very blessed to have a healthy

1061
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: child who is growing and eating. But there is no

1062
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: disputing it. It is. It is difficult. It is not easy.

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Speaker 1: And I have the easy end of the stick, like

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Speaker 1: the very easy end of the stick, and I sometimes like, damn,

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Speaker 1: this is this is a challenge. Then you just think,

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Speaker 1: like in the history of time, everyone's done it. So

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Speaker 1: it's like I can do it. But there days where

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll it'll, it'll tax, it'll tax the home. That's

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Speaker 1: it can be a grind, and it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: fun grind. Love the little guy who just like him.

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Speaker 1: Take a nap, Audios, have a great day, See you

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Speaker 1: guys later. The volume m HM