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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. It's all presented by coreps

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Speaker 1: like John Schmelt, David Deal with you and the phone

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Speaker 1: numbers two one nine, four five one three or hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants Chat and boy, there are a million things to

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Speaker 1: talk about with this game. Big plays, game changing things,

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Speaker 1: controversial calls, things that happen, pregame drama, off the field,

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Speaker 1: field goals, you name it, we got it. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the game. We're gonna try not to

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Speaker 1: go too long because I'm sure you guys do want

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Speaker 1: to get in and talk to us again at two

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Speaker 1: five one three. But Dave, I want to get the

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna get a lot of fans that

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Speaker 1: are gonna want to call and talk about it as

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of tweets about it, and that's

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Speaker 1: the officiating. So let me let me just start. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me start with this. And Pat Shermer always says this,

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Speaker 1: there's no point in complaining about the officials because you

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Speaker 1: can't control it and it turns into an excuse. And

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Speaker 1: in that I completely agree that being said, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna do a whole call on why the referee stink.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. We're not doing a whole

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Speaker 1: show on that. Okay, But for the second consecutive week now,

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Speaker 1: there were some calls that were to be generous, extremely questionable.

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Speaker 1: That that when you can say that that went against

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Speaker 1: and the ones that bothered me the most, I don't

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Speaker 1: even narrow down the one. The one that bothered me

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Speaker 1: the most was the Landing Collins unnecessary roughness that their

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Speaker 1: helmets happened to brush sure his back was to the receiver.

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Speaker 1: They both were going for the ball, and at that point,

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Speaker 1: when the ball is in the year, both people are

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Speaker 1: the receiver at that point, that's correct. That's that's the

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Speaker 1: That's my biggest issue about all of this is just

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Speaker 1: the consistency of the calls, because there's absolutely no consistency.

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Speaker 1: In one game it's a roughing the pastor, in the

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Speaker 1: next game it's fine. Or for instance, in one game

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Speaker 1: it's roughing the pastor and something that isn't that was

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Speaker 1: not called, was roughing the pastor. If we want to

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Speaker 1: go back to the Packers Redskins game. But this is

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Speaker 1: the thing about all of these calls is that I

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Speaker 1: understand that the officials have a tough job to do,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that it's at a split instant and

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Speaker 1: your eyes have to be the one that recognized things.

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Speaker 1: But when you have a critical call like the one

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Speaker 1: that they had on Landon Collins, you've got to go

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Speaker 1: back and review it and look at it to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you guys were right on the call. Let's

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Speaker 1: go back to how the one drive stopped for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Julius Peppers grabs se Kwon Barkley's face mask grabs it.

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Speaker 1: You see his finger in the face mask. Oh, well

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Speaker 1: it was incidental. It was into the collar. It's still

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Speaker 1: hit him in the face mask. He still grabbed him

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Speaker 1: and you could see se Kwan's head turn. How do

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Speaker 1: you pick up that flag? I understand the rule used

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Speaker 1: been the five yard face mask and regardless, yeah, but regardless,

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Speaker 1: you know the rule used to be up until four

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Speaker 1: and didn't keep it up there, they wouldn't throw a flag.

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Speaker 1: But four years ago they changed it. The minute that

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Speaker 1: of whether it was incidental or not. There was the

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Speaker 1: same exact thing on that play. Yeah, and look, that

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Speaker 1: You had the McCaffrey want at the end of the

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Speaker 1: was a report out there that the league office actually

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Speaker 1: did look at that and they said he made it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure you can't say that either. Can't really

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Speaker 1: and once again it does come down to the officials.

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Speaker 1: I also thought I saw in a legal substitution on

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Speaker 1: that before this season we were all worried about lowering

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Speaker 1: because you're like, okay, big catch, is there a flag?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything? Is there gonna be a review? Okay,

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Speaker 1: it stands all right, we got the first down. It

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Speaker 1: And also, once again, the biggest thing is just consistency.

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Speaker 1: That's all we ask for, and that things are clearly

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Speaker 1: go to to the rule book Byeline guideline section four

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Speaker 1: consistently called the same things, are the same penalties and

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Speaker 1: game togain anyway, all right. So that that's that's the

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Speaker 1: appreciating stuff. And here's the beauty of it, folks. And

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Speaker 1: this is why I don't want to spend time taking

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Speaker 1: have won this game anyway if they didn't shoot themselves

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Speaker 1: this came down to some very fundamental things for the Giants. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they lost the turnover battle. Two interceptions reach quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown difference in the game. Penalties that extended Panthers

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Speaker 1: you have those penalties. That's a problem. You would drop

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call the plane the end zone a drop,

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Speaker 1: though I think he could have if he finished his

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Speaker 1: the things you had first drive for the Panthers miss tackles.

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Speaker 1: It was just disgusting. Is the most amount of miss

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Speaker 1: in over ten years. Absolutely, and the guys, those are

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Speaker 1: fundamental things, catching the football, penalties, tackling, how about this

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Speaker 1: was two or three plays that could have changed the

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Speaker 1: was because when you're sitting there and you see the

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Speaker 1: way that the Giants played in the second half, revitalized,

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Speaker 1: those are all things. And those were all plays and

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Speaker 1: opportunities that they could have had in the first half,

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Speaker 1: didn't allow those opportunities to happen. Penalties, missed assignments, breakdowns

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Speaker 1: I looked at the tape, Dave a few times. I

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Speaker 1: how far away everybody was. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: all the basic fundamentals that number one at this point

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Speaker 1: watching the film. All I know is that Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: Everybody has their fingerprint on And then it was an

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Speaker 1: was a great sign and a positive sign for anybody,

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Speaker 1: because any Giants fan, any passionate Giant who bleeds bleue

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Speaker 1: being able to do those things in the second half

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Speaker 1: need to get down to winning football games. And with

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Speaker 1: this is a great time for them to just snap

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Speaker 1: out of this regroup, re energize, don't don't forget the past.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you lose, don't lose the lesson. Each lesson teaches

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Speaker 1: to get rid of it quickly. And guys, there's no

430
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: complaints about big plays in this game. Eli completed twenty

431
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: two passes and twenty six yard he He had two

432
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: passes of forty yards or more. He had one, two, three, four, five.

433
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: I think six passes of twenty yards or more. They

434
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: got the ball down the field. In this game, they

435
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: won because of big plays. That's why they won the game.

436
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: That's why they were in the game. Again, yeah, quick

437
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: quick retracks, but that's why they were in the game.

438
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: They should have won the game. They got sixty. Can

439
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: we talk about that for a second, And what's the

440
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: chances that for two consecutive seasons you have a sixty

441
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: one yard franchise records setting kicked by the Eagles beat you,

442
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: and then the following year another franchise records setting field

443
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: goal beats you when you take on the Panthers. I mean, seriously,

444
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: I still get haunting sounds in my sleep and then

445
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: nightmares of two thousand and six wild card game, David

446
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: Acres hitting it off the right post to beat us

447
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: in the wild card. I'm like, oh, I still those

448
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: Those are the games that you remember. Those are things

449
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: and moments that you can put yourself right back out

450
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: of the field and just realize the magnitude of number one.

451
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: You're going home, your your playoff dreams are over. But

452
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: too just how quickly and how close that that one

453
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: split second can cost you a football game. Let's go

454
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: to Ryan and Manna Hawking he's up next, Ryan, what's

455
00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 1: going on, buddy? Have a question and a comment on

456
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: the less put on a certain one late in the game.

457
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: My comment is, um, what do you guys take out

458
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: of this game for the Giants defense? Because at parts

459
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,719
Speaker 1: they look great and at parts they look like they

460
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: didn't know what they were doing. Ryan, I, honestly, I'm

461
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: not sure I would ever say at any part in

462
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: that game they look great. I mean, I will say this,

463
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: it looked like a tale of two halves in regards

464
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: to tackling in the second half. The run defense in

465
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: the second half was better, better, but the bottom line,

466
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: they only forced three punts the whole game, and and frankly,

467
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: two of them are because it either dropped passes by

468
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: the Panthers or bad Cam Newton passes the open receivers. So, honestly,

469
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I thought the defense in this game was disappointing and

470
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: they could not get off the fielding they needed to

471
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and that to me was a

472
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: big deal. And for me, the other big discipline problem

473
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: was alf discipline. Do you know that this is a

474
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 1: team running to read option. You know how important it

475
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: is to stay in your gaps, especially on the back side,

476
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: and there was times there was breakdowns and there comes

477
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Cam Newton rolling right through it. And pass rush, I mean,

478
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: you have to get a more consistent pass rush. The

479
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: one time new got pressured in this game by Landon

480
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: Collins when he hurled Christian mc turned into the interception. Otherwise, Ryan,

481
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: he's sitting back there sipping a cup of tea, you know,

482
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: basically deciding where to throw the football. And that's why

483
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: it's crucial to have ov back in this game. If

484
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: he makes short week, short week, he's got to be back. Uh.

485
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: The one thing I did like about the defense was

486
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: they did finally get some turnovers with the two interceptions.

487
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: UM as far as the third one, UM, as far

488
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: as that goes, how does it work? Um? If um

489
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: Schremer asked for measurements, do they do they allow that?

490
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: Or no? Because he doesn't have any time left, No,

491
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: no time outs, no challenge that's got to come from either.

492
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a challenge. I'm saying for measurement to

493
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: bring up. No. No, no, I mean you can obviously

494
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: you can ask. I'm sure that you're yelling, but at

495
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: that point they already let the Carolina Panthers line up

496
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: and spike the football immediately because I'm sitting there when

497
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure like everybody else. And by the way, measure it.

498
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: They didn't move the sticks right away. You see fourth

499
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: and one and you seem spiked the ball. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

500
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: It happened so quickly that they didn't even allow the

501
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: opportunity for it to get really reviewed. And by the way, Ryan,

502
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: if you're the giants, the last thing you want to

503
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: do is ask for a measurement because once you ask

504
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: for a measurement, that stops the clock. So as the giants,

505
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: you have to rely on the officials there to do

506
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: the right thing that they asked me. I would want

507
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: to measurement, but it stops the clock if they keep

508
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: them on fourth down. No, but then but then they

509
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: can kick the field goal. Yeah, they still have time

510
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: to kick the field goal. They have time to run

511
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: the field goal unit out there and get them all

512
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: prepped up, because it would have been it would have

513
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: been appreciate the call and that and that's why to me,

514
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: that play and a lot of people have kind of

515
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: picked that one out as the one that's really get

516
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: annoying them the most. But there was nothing you could

517
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: have done, No, and and and there's still an opportunity

518
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: for the Panthers and kick Fiel go. Is it maybe

519
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult with them having to run

520
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: out and execute the play? Sure, I'll buy that, but

521
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: but there's still plenty of Frankly him to get it.

522
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: Don Yeah. I mean I think when that play, when

523
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: that running play finished, what was there about nineteen seconds

524
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: on the class And that's what I mean. You need

525
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: for you to run out your field goal team, get

526
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: him the set up, and get him operated to kick that.

527
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: You need about sixteen seventeen seconds. That's what we used

528
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: to work on. And they had they had, They had

529
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: plenty of time to do it. Two five on three

530
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: out to California. What's up to? Jose Hey, jose Hey,

531
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: thanks first color Hey, thanks for calling. I appreciate it. Yeah.

532
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: So well, I'm gonna start with the glass half fool. Okay.

533
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: I know that last year we uh we lost the

534
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: game to the Eagle that the buzzer with the sixty

535
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: plus yarder, and it happened again yesterday, right, but I

536
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: want to believe that just like last year when our

537
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: season went for the worst after that game, I want

538
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: to say that there. Our season is going to go

539
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: for the better this year, and they have to start

540
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: on Thursday, right. Well, Jose, I gotta be honest with you.

541
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: In that locker room after the game, I did get

542
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: a different sense from the team after the loss. You know,

543
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: and Dave you you weren't there, but you can speak

544
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: to this as a player. After some losses, it's so quiet,

545
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: you can hear a pin drop, but everyone is so despondent.

546
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: This was almost a like defiant We're proud of the

547
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: way we played. We're angry we lost and how we lost,

548
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: but we think this has kind of put us on

549
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: the right path. That's the sense that I got out

550
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: of that locker room now one and four. Maybe it's

551
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: too little, too late, who knows, we'll see, but to me,

552
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: it was a much different sense from the players and

553
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: what I got from losses against the Jaguars, Dallas and

554
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I feel it today too. You could tell

555
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: guys are here, guys are getting their treatment, guys are

556
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: getting ready for this football game, and you could just

557
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: tell that there was a different type of attitude post

558
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: game than there was in the previous games. I agree

559
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: with you, wholeheartedly. And I think that's something that you know,

560
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: you continue to talk about. We talk about as fans

561
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: seeing progress as a player, how much fully invested you

562
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: are in you want to see progress, You want to

563
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: you want to win, you want to see that what

564
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: you're doing and you're putting in the work in the

565
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: effort that the results are eventually going to come. And

566
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: that's something that I think that they started to see.

567
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that you're gonna have them

568
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: come together. And I think that's something that we know

569
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: about it and we're not going to get all the

570
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: way into it, but with Coach Shermer's press conference, he

571
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: said he feels that this is something that's gonna energize

572
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: and revitalize and bring this group closer together. Yeah, And

573
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: I got that sense for all the way from over here.

574
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: And even in Coach Sherman's response, you could tell you

575
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: what really aggravated by the media. Oh yeah, And I

576
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: hadn't heard him like that before. Well, you know who

577
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: say the funny thing. I don't think he was really

578
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: aggravated by the media at that point. I think he

579
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: was still aggravated about maybe some of the officiating and

580
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: just maybe how the end of the game went. I

581
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: think he just made they lost. Now they lost. Yeah,

582
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the other thing with the penalty,

583
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you already covered him very well. But I think we're

584
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: currently we're not a team that's good enough to be

585
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: able to overcome all of these things, absolutely correct, you know,

586
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not at the moment. I think that

587
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: we may build on that. As you stack up more wins,

588
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: you may be able to get that and maybe the

589
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: ball will bounce our way as well. I mean, you

590
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: look at yesterday's game and you look at that one

591
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: fumble by Cam inches from the sidelines. The guy was

592
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: inches on the sign and he touches the silence, so

593
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: the ball we can't get the ball right it was?

594
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Was it web a righty right? Yeah? And then it

595
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: happened again. It happened last week against the Saint when

596
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: one of the guys fumbled the ball near midfield. I

597
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: think one of our guys tips it and then it

598
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: lands right back in his hands um and he gets

599
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: the ball back. So there's like those places that are

600
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: just not going our way this season at the moment.

601
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: But I think things will turn around, and I think

602
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: things will will end up settling and we'll we'll start

603
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: getting some of these calls and some of these bounces

604
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: will go our way as well. Hopefully you're right. We

605
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: had that. There was a penalty that kept their drive

606
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: going too. I'm trying to think of which one. Defensively,

607
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: there was a penalty that web a little and that

608
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: then and then he got called for the fifteen yard

609
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: on sportsmanlike you're talking about that drive, I believe that

610
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: is a third end of the second quarter or start

611
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: of the third, if I'm not mistaken. You could check

612
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: that the other thing to day. From what you know,

613
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: It's funny to me this game reflected more what I

614
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: thought the Giants season would look like at the start

615
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: of the year. Like I didn't think they'd have a

616
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: lot of losses like it against Dallas or even the

617
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: Saints where they had trouble scoring. I thought they'd be

618
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: able to score this year, but I worried about the

619
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: defense being able to get off the field when you

620
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: need them too late because of the pass rush issues.

621
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: And I think this game kind of reflected a little

622
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: bit more um what I thought this team's losses might

623
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: look like at the start of the year. You can't

624
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: find it. I'll try to find two four five one

625
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: three two one nine nine four five one three. Let's see.

626
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I think it might have been the second quarter, Dave.

627
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: Let me see if I could find it here for you. Um,

628
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: they were driving now fine, either way, let's Chris and

629
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Houston and then we'll try to track down that. Chris.

630
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: Are you guys doing doing well? Chris? What's up? All right? Uh?

631
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: First off, I thought I was gonna be calling me

632
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: yesterday to get your opinion on justin irvit or will grieve?

633
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Then Billy and Dallas decided to lose, so miraculously we're

634
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: still in this thing, which is crazy to think, you know, Chris,

635
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And I said that before at one in four.

636
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Usually you know you're already thinking about the draft. But

637
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, or we'll see what happens with the

638
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Redskins and Saints tonight. A Redskins win, you know, that's

639
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: a three game in the lost column difference. That could

640
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: be tough. But they're in New Orleans, so we'll see.

641
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Right now they're still alive. But you gotta be filly

642
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Well, I do remember stating that I truthfully

643
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Speaker 1: believe that nine wins would win the division. So that

644
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: might be the case now, just too three very quick

645
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Speaker 1: points that just discussed me yesterday, and the one question.

646
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Speaker 1: You know, the game. First off, the game, it's not

647
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: a good game. It's a bad game. The rules, inconsistency,

648
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: just overall the NFL. It's just it's mind boggling. What's

649
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: going on over there? You know, you look at you

650
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: look at the tackling for the Giants yesterday. Do we

651
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: not teach that? I heard Landon Collins for two years

652
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: lobbying to be a captain and the leader, and he

653
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: and he's guilty of not rapid several times. It was

654
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: just it was a just grace, not just him but others.

655
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Speaker 1: And then the O'Dell piece before I get to my question.

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Speaker 1: The O'Dell piece was just seen Justina Anderson. But to me,

657
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: anytime you have an interview with her, I think it's trouble.

658
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: But the fact that he sat down with a what

659
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: is little Wayne doing there? I mean, if you're if

660
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: you're the a leader, I rather seven heart over there

661
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: like they did that little shoot then little Wayne. The

662
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: only connection is they're both from New Orleans. That's it.

663
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: But it made it made no sense whatsoever. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Chris, I will say this and I had

665
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: made an impassioned play at the end of Friday show

666
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Speaker 1: about at that point a couple of the quotes of

667
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Speaker 1: that interview got leaked, and I thought a lot was

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Speaker 1: being made of nothing. I will, I'll be fair, I said,

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Speaker 1: I have fair and I am fair. The other stuff

670
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Speaker 1: that came out on Sunday, I did not like a

671
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that said. I did not. And

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Speaker 1: if that some of those things, I think it's And

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00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I think you saw Pat Charmer being very emboldened and

674
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: adamant animated. That's good too about it. And I completely

675
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: understand where he's coming from, because you know what, if

676
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: you want to be the leader, do you have to

677
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: think about what? Yeah? Keep yes, if you want to lead,

678
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: keep little weight out of it. I think that's a

679
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: great botto. I'm with you, Chris, all right. My question

680
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: to you and not to But I knew, we all

681
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: knew the offensive line wasn't going to be great this year.

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00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: The reason why I cringed when we got rid of

683
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Speaker 1: Davis Webb. And I agree with what David said earlier

684
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: about three sections of the eternity is because Eli has

685
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: been thrown flat footed all season long. Web flat foot,

686
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: it has more of a cannon. I know if Webb

687
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: was in there right now, the base would be calling

688
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: for him to come in there. What are your thoughts?

689
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: Do you still think that that was fullish for us

690
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: to cut him for or wait him for that particular reason. Yeah, Chris,

691
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: look Davids, what might have a better arm throwing flat footed?

692
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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if yeah, you literally took the

693
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Speaker 1: words out of I don't think he knew what the

694
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: ball is going half the time, whether it because he

695
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: wasn't reading things properly or because he was frankly too inaccurate.

696
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Bowler threw a ball on his knee over seventy

697
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Speaker 1: yards and Brandon we didn't do the same thing at

698
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: that point. I understand the arm strength. I get that,

699
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you've got to think about

700
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Speaker 1: accuracy and decision making. I mean, that's fair, that's fair.

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00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys go on this. I'm coming up

702
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: for Thursday's games. All make sure I say to you

703
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: at the club, Well, Chris, Chris, let me warn you, um,

704
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Speaker 1: if you're coming up Thursday right now. It looks like

705
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: hurricane light conditions. So pack your raincoat and remember no

706
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: umbrella's yeah, thank you, bring the ponco. Thank you, Chris,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man, You're supposed to be bad. H Yeah,

708
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be horrible. It could be a real

709
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: ugly game. Um so, and the Eagles played on one

710
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: of those. What was their game against the Colts? I

711
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: think was in the rain maybe three weeks ago and

712
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Philly maybe yeah, And I was watching the tape. I

713
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: saw one of the games that Arena. I think it

714
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: was the Colt scamp. Let's go to Jason and Virginia.

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Speaker 1: He's up next. Before Jason, we get to you, want

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Speaker 1: to remind you that Big Book Could Go Live is

717
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Speaker 1: presented by Cores Light down with the Cores Light Rewards

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Speaker 1: apt to an amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. Jason,

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Speaker 1: the floor is yours. Okay, well wait, every other fans

720
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: here to do. First off, all homage to David Deal.

721
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: We appreciate so much what you did for us and

722
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: being able to sit the share championships with my kids

723
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: personally awesome thing. Um I wanted to dark the question

724
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: specifically at you, David sorry, John. As a player, over

725
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: the weeks, we've heard lack of execution, lack of execution,

726
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: lack of execution. Did you find in your experience as

727
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: a player was that more of a player thing or

728
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: was that more of a coach thing? Not having the

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00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: player prepared to execute? Was the combination or both? But

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00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm just asking as your general experience as a player,

731
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: what did you find the most? Wow? I mean that's

732
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, do we have half an

733
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: hour here we're go into a pisis about this? No,

734
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a great question. I mean, you

735
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Speaker 1: have to think about leadership is what starts. That's a

736
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: reflection of everything. So it does start from your coaches

737
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: to make sure that they're dialing in a game plan

738
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: that is going to be tailored to the strength not

739
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: only of your football team or of your offense, defensive,

740
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: special teams, but for those players individually. But also at

741
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: this point where you're at coming into week six as

742
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: a professional player, regardless of whether you're running a new

743
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: system or not, it's up to you to make the

744
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: plays and get it done out on the football field.

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00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: You know, well, we sit there and we have discussions

746
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: all the time. When it comes to things, you know,

747
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: you have somebody in your life that's a smoke or

748
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: everybody's yelling them to not smoke. Until that person consciously

749
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: decides to stop smoking, it doesn't matter what people say

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00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: to him. That's the same thing when it comes to

751
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: playing football, how dialed in, how passionate you are, how

752
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: much you're willing to sacrifice so that when you go

753
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: out on the field on Sundays you don't use well,

754
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: it's a new scheme, it's a new system. You know,

755
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: I'm not a hound of present positive because when you're

756
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: not a positive and that's split second that you think

757
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: and you don't react in the NFL, you're not gonna

758
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: get your job done. And that's the difference of what

759
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: it takes to be professionally good and to be a

760
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: great player. That you know that you don't have any

761
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: stones that you have that you didn't turn to make

762
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: sure that your preparation is the way that you can

763
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: walk away from a Sunday, regardless of a winner loss,

764
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: without a single regret. And Dave, how often do you

765
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: think players think they're working hard, but they're not really

766
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: working hard. Being busy isn't working hard. Everybody can be busy,

767
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: but what you're doing during that time is it being

768
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: productive to where it's going to change what you're doing?

769
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a big difference in that. You always

770
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: heard uh what what was the quote by John Wooden? Uh,

771
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: be in a hurry, but don't rush. You know. Yeah,

772
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: you want to be going, you want to be, but

773
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: don't rush to where you're gonna skip a step and

774
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to do your job to

775
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the best of your ability. What else you got, Jason? Okay? Um?

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Speaker 1: Just then one follow up on that, So, um, if

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Speaker 1: it really all starts with leadership, and that's kind of

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00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: what I picked up from you, do you feel there's

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00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: anybody on the team currently who is showing they've got

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Speaker 1: what it takes to step up and be a leader

781
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: who isn't in that position? And conversely, do you think

782
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: they've set up anybody to be in leadership that you

783
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: feel isn't really uh really meaning the mustard right now? No,

784
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, when it comes to a football team,

785
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: there's leaders in there all in different ways. Some lead

786
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: by example, some are vocals. Some You can't be phony

787
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: about that if you're not a vocal guy, and you're

788
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: not a yelling their screamer. Don't be that guy, because

789
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: people are going to see right through it. So I

790
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: think everybody's a leader in their own way and in

791
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: their own way, shape or form. But I do know

792
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: this that after this past week, after coach Shermer talked

793
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: to the team about all the distractions and everything that

794
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: was going off going on away from the field, I

795
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: do know this. I knew that they do did have

796
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: a meeting and the players talked about it, and like

797
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: we talked about, we saw some of the results, but

798
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: it's not just about some of the results. It's the

799
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: result of winning at the end of the day. And

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00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: we'll see what this football team does with one in

801
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: four still the bottom line. Yeah, yeah, alright, thanks so much.

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00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Thank you, appreciate it. Four or five on

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Speaker 1: three Lennon, Columbia, Maryland. Lenn I assume you'll be up

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00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: here on Thursday. Thanks for the weather forecast, John. I'm

805
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: really looking forward to that. Bring the pont Show. Yeah yeah,

806
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: well yeah, first, I just I just gotta tell you, guys,

807
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: I hate the Eagles. There you go, David, good for

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00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: you for you. Yeah, that without a single hesitation. Yeah,

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00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: me too, Me too, David. Um, all right, quick, just

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of quick things. Obviously disappointing the loss,

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Speaker 1: it was, you know, difficult, difficult one to take, second

812
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: year in a row on that, you know, late field goal. Um,

813
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, coach Sherman, hang in there. Better days are ahead.

814
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Just get them ready for Thursday. Um. Secondly, I'm not

815
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna do my gym more impersonation. But you know, let's

816
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: let's let's let's stop with the playoffs. Just win a game.

817
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: A game. I'm with you. Win a game. I'm with

818
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: you because if they don't win a game, and check

819
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: the standings and see if we've got to get ready

820
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: for next week, especially since it's a home game, and

821
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Speaker 1: especially since it's going to be lousy weather and you

822
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Speaker 1: got your best customers in the stands. Go win the game, guys,

823
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: go win the game. Um. A lot of things weren't wrong, obviously,

824
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: you know this was not a perfect game by the Giants,

825
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: but you know, you boil it all down. Football is

826
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: all about blocking and tackling. You want to you want

827
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: a good example of bad blocking. First play of the game, David,

828
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: you could probably tell tell the truth on this one.

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00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: That play is not designed to lose two yards. You're

830
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: correct on that one. Then there we go, and that

831
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: summed it up. You don't have to look very far

832
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: to see what the blocking was like first play the

833
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: game tackling Um Jehan you alluded to. It was either

834
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: in your article on the website or earlier in the show.

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Speaker 1: You know, the DJ More touchdown. You know, I don't

836
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Speaker 1: care what level you're at. You never I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's not taught. I mean. And and David, you know,

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Speaker 1: coming from you, if you would on on this, you know,

839
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Speaker 1: tackling David, I think you really gotta want to do it. Yeah,

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00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough spot. I agree with you.

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00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta want to stick your nose in

842
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: there and make the tackle. I always talk about the

843
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: lost art of a corner making the tackle in the

844
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Speaker 1: open field. And give you an apple credit because he

845
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: did do that against Cam Newton and forced the fumble.

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00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: But the rest of his guys in the secondary on

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Speaker 1: d J. Moore's and the round and Curtis Samuel's touchdown

848
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Speaker 1: did not No. No, And you know, I I'm not

849
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Speaker 1: gonna say it isn't it isn't tough. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: a defensive back at one ninety and you got a

851
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: two one and thirty pound running back coming around at

852
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: you with two blockers in front of him. Your job

853
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: is to stick your nose in there. I mean that

854
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: that was just come on, blocking and tackling. I know

855
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: we can do better at it. I mean, it is

856
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: what it is. The offensive line is what it is. Um,

857
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: we're playing our best players were doing the best we can.

858
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: But I mean fifty yards on the ground, oh for

859
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: seven on third downs? I mean you know, um latim

860
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: address but didn't play? John Yeah, I mean I he

861
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: was working out pregame, he didn't look great. Woman up

862
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: before the game. He was active, but I was we

863
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: were told that he wasn't. So I guess they decided

864
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: that he wasn't well enough to help. Maybe something happened

865
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: in between when the announceding inactives too when the game started.

866
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, but as far

867
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: as I don't think you took a snap, No, No,

868
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: he didn't, right, yeah, yeah, yeah he didn't. Yeah he

869
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: didn't play. He didn't play at all, Um, And I agree.

870
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: I forget who said this earlier in the show. But

871
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: the Russell Shepard catch. Um, I thought he could have

872
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: run through that ball. Mention it were about it earlier,

873
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: autely there was no reason from the fall down. Yeah,

874
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: yeah right, it didn't look like he had to die

875
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: for the ball. No, I could, un you could have

876
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: run right through it. And unfortunate for the Giants if

877
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: they had caught the touch you know, the touch in

878
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: the back, you know, down by contact right away. Um,

879
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, time would to run off and more time

880
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: would a run off the clock if you go to

881
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: the to the caroline, you know, to the caroline of possession. Um,

882
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: well they start running that remember, they start running that

883
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: clock once the review is completed. So so they could

884
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: have ran off as much clock as they wanted. Yeah,

885
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: well that's true. That's true too, That's that's true. Uh,

886
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what else to say except

887
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta get out there and win a

888
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: game on Thursday night and get the next one. It's

889
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: the next one on the schedule. Uh, let's let's you know,

890
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: let's play it. And um, I I think it's turning

891
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: in a little bit. I'm you know, I've I've got

892
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: confidence John. You remember last week. I said to you,

893
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: I think this whole thing runs in force. I think

894
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: you know you play you can play it peak efficiency

895
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: for four It doesn't mean you're gonna lose. It just

896
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: means you don't play as well as you did the

897
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: week before. And the same thing with the other end.

898
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: You know, you played badly for three or four weeks

899
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: and then it starts to turn a little bit. I

900
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: get the feeling it's turning a little bit. Thank you fundamentals.

901
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, thanks guys. Let's go Giants. Hey, let's

902
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: go Yankee. Yeah that's right, Yankees, Red Sox, and I'll

903
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: be there. Kind of off to one Savorino Vivaldi. That's

904
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: advantage Bomas. I'm ready to go. And by the way,

905
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: um at one point that I think Len lenn made

906
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: that was a good one, and that you know, the

907
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: tackling is just something that you have to get better at.

908
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: And two and we talked about it before the year.

909
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Two days the schedule is so difficult the Giants and

910
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: actually come out and play well these next two games

911
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: and still lose. They went down to Carolina, did some

912
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: good things, still lost. They're playing teams that made the

913
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: playoffs last year. They're they're good football teams. So it's

914
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna require are really, really strong effort to win. Frankly,

915
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: any of these next three games, and all three phases, absolutely,

916
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: all three phases have to play in harmony with one another.

917
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Oh boy, here we go.

918
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: I got a bad feeling about this. Helleujah losing his mind.

919
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Mr Illness, he wasn't right enough jokes. I am happy, age, Hey,

920
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: David's Charlie. Hey, look, we need an exorcism in the

921
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: locker room. You, Charlie hate us. The football gods hate us,

922
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: and it's uh, how you know? We got to burn

923
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: some sage. You know, we got to burn some sage

924
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: in the whole locker room and in in quest center

925
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: and get out all the bad spirit. Charlie, you seem

926
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: like a pretty interesting guy. Have you ever been involved

927
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: in an exorcism of some kind, either on you or

928
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: on somebody else? Hey? I can't reveal those, but my god,

929
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, look, I looked at that game, and there's

930
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: no way we should have lost. And Eli Manning played

931
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: a great game, he you know, and the offensive line

932
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: did well pas protecting. They weren't so great running the ball,

933
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: But look, we we checked Cam Newton and we checked

934
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: McCaffrey pretty much the whole game. They didn't kill us.

935
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: It was just, you know, and the whole thing about tackling.

936
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Everybody tries to just knock the guy out instead of

937
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: wrapping up, and you know, they're trying to get the

938
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: fumble and they're trying to make this big play and

939
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: and you know, and guys bounce off you you know,

940
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: you've got to wrap up. And that was the issue.

941
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: But look, I I looked at this game and I

942
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: was really encouraged. Look, this field goal kicker will never

943
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: ever kick another six three yard field goal. In fact,

944
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: you probably missed the next two in a row, because

945
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: that's that's our luck. I mean, it's just you know,

946
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to make it, and I

947
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: knew it. I knew it in a minute that he

948
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: was going forward at the game trolley. That thing would

949
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: have been good from seventies. He destroyed that thing, I know,

950
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: I know. And the thing is is like it was

951
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: perfect weather, there was no wind. You know. The thing is,

952
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: if we had won that game, which we should have won,

953
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: we would have been tied with Dallas Philly and we

954
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: would have been like, if if Washington loses tonight and

955
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: New Orleans, which I think they will, we would have

956
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: been a half game out. So you know, if we

957
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: can beat Philly, this is the game, this is gonna

958
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: turn our season right here, will be one and one

959
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: in our division, you know, will be two and four,

960
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Philly will be two and four. Then hopefully Dallas will

961
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: lose again, you know this week coming up, and we're

962
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: right in the in the mix, you know, And uh,

963
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean our offense finally scored more than thirty points.

964
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean we were moving the ball. Eli was doing great.

965
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: He had had one path, a quick flant to Odell.

966
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: And you know, when you throw those quick slants, you're

967
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: throwing in in about a second and you don't have

968
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: a chance to look and see where the safety is.

969
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: And Eli didn't catch it, and that was the interception.

970
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: And and the thing is, and you know, everyone's killing

971
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: O'Dell about the punt thing. Freaking Robert had it right

972
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: in his hands. All you have to do is just

973
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, bounce jump on the ground with it instead

974
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: of trying to catch it. And uh, you know, you

975
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: know so so I I don't put it on O'Dell.

976
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: Odell is trying to make a play. He's trying to

977
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: do everything for this team to win. He's doing punt returns,

978
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: he's doing everything he can. He's throwing passes, he's catching balls.

979
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I just think our offense

980
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: is is clicking. Now, it's going to click. And if

981
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: it is going to be a really rainy game. Who

982
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: would you like to have in bad weather conditions? Eli

983
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Manning or Works. I would take Eli Manning about bad

984
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: weather any day of the week. Thank you, thank you, Charlie.

985
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: So I have a good one. I was actually intelligent

986
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: called by Charlie there. Yeah, and those are two plays

987
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: that we actually like. We talked being of the show,

988
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: how many crazy plays there were. They happen so early

989
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: in the game we kind of forgot about him. The

990
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: Beckham punt, he was trying to do the right thing

991
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: by trying to block the gunner. But he has to

992
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: be more aware of he has to be more aware

993
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: of where the football is in the air. Yeah, so

994
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: we had that one. We didn't even talk about the

995
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: other special teams. When he did get a decent punt

996
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: return down, the silence was brought back for a holding

997
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: call and after he threw the touchdown past to say

998
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley rosas momentum, killer kick out, a bounce, those

999
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: are things you can't do. Nice trip play though, Yeah,

1000
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: that was an unbelievable play and good thing that Odell

1001
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. Took those two steps back to make sure

1002
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: that he could throw that ball because if he didn't,

1003
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting that ball off. And they the way

1004
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: they designed it too, is they brought red Ellison on

1005
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 1: a drag rout across the field to Beckham that cleared

1006
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: the defensive back and basically it was their rookie linebacker

1007
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: Jermaine Carter that was left one on one with Barkley,

1008
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: and he peeked, He peeked before he went and that

1009
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: was the end of that. Mike and Mike and Maryland.

1010
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: He joins us next they Yeah, I got three things

1011
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: I'd like to mention. The first things the defense. Um,

1012
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: they didn't really come about until about this halfway through

1013
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: the second quarter. If they would have been a bit

1014
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: we would have been in very good shape. And uh so,

1015
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, the defense has to play the entire game,

1016
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: not just two of the third quarters. Um. The next

1017
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: thing is the punting the punting. They got pumble lightus

1018
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: and they've had fumble lightus for quite some time. I'm

1019
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: not even talking about Yes, you're talking about the fumble

1020
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: lightus that's been going on back there were with the

1021
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: punk You're right, that's got They gotta all go on

1022
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: to that ball, alright, no argument, No argument. My third,

1023
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: My third because the coaching, I think Sherman could be

1024
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: a bit more imaginative, uh and not so uh predictable

1025
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: with some of his calls. He finally got out there

1026
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: and how do you like throw a couple of passes

1027
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 1: down the field and you know he was successful, given

1028
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham the ball with five with a five yard

1029
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: passed and hoping that he runs forever. That works sometimes

1030
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: let it get your first down, but it's not going

1031
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: to get your touchdown, all right. I think if when

1032
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: he used the Odell Beckham to make that pass, that

1033
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: was imaginative and that worked well. I think if he

1034
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: if he could be a bit more unpredictable and uh

1035
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: maybe have uh Eli my Mannili roll out a little

1036
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: bit more. It will take the pressure off of the

1037
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: lineman when they want to have a running play or

1038
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: or another passing play. If if he I don't realize

1039
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: he's a pocket passer, but you can also throw on

1040
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: the run. He's proved that when he's been in trouble

1041
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: and he had and he had to break out, he

1042
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: can throw the ball on the run. So I think maybe,

1043
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: if sure, would you know, call a few more plays

1044
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: with the ALI on a rollout, I think would be

1045
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: a heck of a lot more successful, and we can

1046
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of Philadelphia. And I can't stand

1047
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia either. Between them and Vallis, I don't know

1048
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: which one I hate, So you know that's my comments.

1049
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: Especially No, it's a great call. I mean, obviously, there

1050
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: are things that you want to do offensively, to be creative,

1051
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: to be deceptive to the defense, to draw reaction one

1052
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: way and try to do it the other way. That's great.

1053
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: But when you can't do the basic things right, thirteen

1054
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: carries negative too young. You can't not have penetration in

1055
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: the run game when you can't have simple pickups and

1056
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: the blitz things early on in the season and now

1057
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: we'll see if they can adapt and do more. But

1058
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: when you can't do those things right, you can't run

1059
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: fake reverses us that way. When you can't do the

1060
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: base simple things right. They tried to do some in

1061
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: the rounds with Odell and work against the Jet Wars.

1062
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: It would have opened up everything offensively. All right, let's

1063
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: go Scott in New Mexico, and then I'm gonna get

1064
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: Dave's quick take on the Eagles game before we say goodbye. Scott.

1065
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: What's up, hey, guys, I'll keep it shut. I must

1066
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: be missing something because the Giants yesterday scored thirty win points,

1067
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: which they hadn't done what thirty seven or thirty eight game?

1068
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: It was the final season of Tom Coughlin's last year here,

1069
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: so do the man. So you both acknowledge that the

1070
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: Giants sort of self destructed on offense. But yet imagine

1071
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: if they had played a decent or or a clean game,

1072
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: how many points they would have scored. Scott, I don't

1073
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: think they self destructed on offense. I think they self

1074
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: destructed all over the place. They We mentioned the penalties,

1075
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: the mistackles on defense, the mistake on special teams. So

1076
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: I think it was a team wide, um self inflicted

1077
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: wound thing that killed them. Not necessarily offensively. They're the

1078
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: two interceptions, obviously, right. But but let's examine what they

1079
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: did do. And I know the controversy regarding the Odell

1080
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Beckham and Josina Anderson conversation, but is there a correlation

1081
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: about what he said and what transpired on Sunday? And

1082
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I have some specific reasons, but but but I just

1083
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: wanted to state what did happen. Uh, you know, I

1084
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: don't care that O'Dell air disgrievances publicly, but look at

1085
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: what the Giants did. The Giants had multiple pass plays

1086
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: over twenty something they were struggling to do. They added

1087
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: a trick or gadget play, something I was personally intimant

1088
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: about adding to the offers to make it a little

1089
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: bit more creative, and that resultant in a touchdown and

1090
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: arguably changed the whole dynamic of the game. We already mentioned.

1091
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: They scored over thirty points and uh, you know, I

1092
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: think some will perceive in the interview Old was calling

1093
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: out the head coaching quarter. But but but I say,

1094
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: so what they deserve to be called out? You're one

1095
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: in three at the time of the interviewing. Turn out,

1096
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: time out, time out, time out, time out, time out,

1097
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: time out, time out. God, how many locker rooms have

1098
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: you been in? One actually I played you would and

1099
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: you would want one of the leaders of your team

1100
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: to go out and make comments like that. Well, David

1101
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: or Scott, would you want one of your leaders on

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00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: your team to do this to your team without taking

1103
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: any responsibility? Yes? Scott? Yes or no? Would you not?

1104
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: Yes or no? On what question would you want one

1105
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: of the leaders of your team to do this? It's

1106
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: it's yes. I wanted back to the seventh seasons. It's

1107
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: not two thousand example, yes or no? Scott, Yes or no?

1108
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: Would you want this done in your locker room or not?

1109
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Uh No, I wouldn't. Why would you have with you

1110
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: were it was done? But but let me go back

1111
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: to the two thousand seven because you were part of that, Dave.

1112
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: Uh you know that there was an issue with Michael

1113
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: Strahan and Tom Coughlin in the two thousand seventh season. No, no,

1114
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: there was no Scott, there wasn't. There was not that

1115
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: was in two thousand and before when he first got here,

1116
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: first got here two thousand and seven. The only issue

1117
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: with Michael was he didn't want to go to training

1118
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: camp and came back after that was it. There was

1119
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: absolutely no issue there. That was an O four when

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00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: coach Coughlin first got here and we went from a

1121
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: country club to boot camp. Okay, because I thought that

1122
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: there was an issue and what transpired as you guys

1123
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: worked it out and then lo and behold you in

1124
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So I thought there was some conflict.

1125
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: I may be wrong, So you situation better than I do.

1126
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: We're owing two with obituaries written on all of us.

1127
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: That was the conflict, you know. Okay, thanks? All right?

1128
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: So but again, I think the Giants can take this

1129
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: as a positive step going forward. And I agree because

1130
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: of what's happening in division, they have a legitimate chance

1131
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: to win their division. So despite everything, I think they're

1132
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: going in a positive way. So I apologize if I

1133
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: was wrong about that statement, but I wanted to get

1134
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: your Absolutely, you have your right to your opinion. But

1135
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: I do this all the time because people make statements

1136
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: to me and they're like, oh, he's right for saying that.

1137
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, put yourself in that position. You're in

1138
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: the locker room, you're doing this day in and day out.

1139
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: How would you feel about it? Well, no, it's a

1140
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: simple yes or no question. How would you feel? Well,

1141
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that to happen. So then why are

1142
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: now you turning the tables that you agree with it

1143
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: when if you were putting that instance, you wouldn't. And

1144
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: one thing I asked, so I listened that there's no

1145
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: need for an apology. I love talking I love talking

1146
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: sports and being passionate about it because this is what

1147
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: we all do. But at the same time, when you

1148
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: sit there and you make statements and you vouch for them,

1149
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: then personally vouch from them to yourself. If you were

1150
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: putting those situations too, and they do two other things,

1151
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: I want to just ask you, and then we'll get

1152
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles kid you real quick. If you're gonna do

1153
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: something like that, you have to have some self reflection

1154
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: in there too. Yeah, exactly. And I need to play better.

1155
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: There are things I can do better correct and that's

1156
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: something that the quarterback and the head coach always said. Um.

1157
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: And then number two. I did find it somewhat amusing

1158
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: that there. And I know Pat Shermer was trying to

1159
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: turn this into a positive and I understand why he's

1160
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: doing that, but I I could have lived without after

1161
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: the game number thirteen almost taking credit for the team

1162
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: playing better because of what he said. I wasn't even

1163
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: listening to that stuff. I mean, I listen, do you

1164
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: think Ellen Manning cares about any of this stuff interviews?

1165
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: He doesn't come on at the end of the day.

1166
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: This stuff was all built about causing a distraction, raising

1167
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: awareness and getting more attention to Josina Anderson than it

1168
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: was for the opposite. So, I mean, that's what we're

1169
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: in them this time and day and age. But what

1170
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: cures all this stuff vitamin W winning. When you win

1171
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: all of these things, what do you know, go away?

1172
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: They disappear because it doesn't matter at the end of

1173
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: the day. What matters is what you do in between

1174
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: those lines. And if you get a W or at

1175
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: the n L at the end of it, that's it.

1176
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: No Quum Eagles, Yeah, what are the Giants that to

1177
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: be Philly? Well, obviously offensively, they've got to make sure

1178
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: that in the running game they don't let Fletcher Cox

1179
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: be an absolute destroyer and get into the backfield and

1180
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: penetrate forcing Sae Kwon Barkley to bounce the ball outside

1181
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: to where they play those wide nines. They've got to

1182
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: control Michael Bennett in the passing game. I mean, they're

1183
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: flip flopping them. They've got them all over the field,

1184
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Brand and Graham. A lot of teams have been attacking

1185
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills on the defensive side of the ball. Obviously defensively.

1186
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: You know that this is a team now coming in

1187
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz coming back into the fold. You know

1188
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: that they're gonna want to run a lot more r

1189
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: p o s. They know that we've struggled on defensively, uh,

1190
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: covering up against tight ends. You know that zach Ertz

1191
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: is going to be a compliment al Sean Jeffery is

1192
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna be playing in this third game. Uh, this is

1193
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: one where the Giants just fundamentals, basics a linement assignment

1194
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: and just if you control the game with penalties and

1195
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: without turning the football over, that's where you can beat

1196
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 1: this football team, and where you can beat these teams

1197
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: at home on a quick week, because this is when

1198
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: a team isn't as sharpened, as dialed into their game plan.

1199
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: They're trying to rush through their preparation. It's not as

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01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: easy when you're going on the road. Even though if

1201
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: it's just hility, you're out of sync and you're almost

1202
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: like a robot. When you're a player and when you're

1203
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: an athlete, and when you don't feel like you're getting

1204
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: all that preparation time, it's gonna cause some hesitation in

1205
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: the way and your confidence performing as a player. The

1206
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: Giants need to be revitalized, re energized, and coming to

1207
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: this game and give their best effort of the season.

1208
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: Hands down, the Eagles secondary is vulnerable. If you can

1209
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: get Manning enough time to look down field, there are

1210
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: plays to be had. We've had this conversation before. It

1211
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: doesn't always happen, but that Eagles secondary has been civil

1212
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: this year. I remember we said that before the States

1213
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: game how to work out not too good, but ideally

1214
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: there should be some opportunities there and obvious. So you

1215
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: gotta protect uh their defensive line that is excellent, and

1216
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: then offensively you have to you have to pressure Carson Wentz.

1217
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: If he sits back there, he's gonna find those two

1218
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: tight ends. And folks, let me tell you, Ian Thomas

1219
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: was open a lot in that game yesterday. Um, they

1220
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: didn't always take advantage of it because of either bad

1221
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: routes or bad throws or drops or whatever. But you're

1222
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: not gonna have that of Courson, win zach Ertz and

1223
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: Dallas got her and Jason Peters went out of the game.

1224
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: We don't know if is gonna be starting at left tackle.

1225
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: What do you hurt Peters? I can't remember what exactly

1226
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: what it was, um, but that's another reason why they

1227
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: might go to tight end packages. This is cured the

1228
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: line of scripting and the Eagles outphins of line surprising,

1229
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: which is one of the best units of the leader,

1230
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: has actually struggled the last two weeks, so they've been

1231
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: completely Maybe the John's can take advantage of that as well.

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Speaker 1: David two shows in a row, I feel Friday mondays,

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Speaker 1: here we go. You're a good man for David Deal,

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Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilk. One We'll final reminder Big We'll kick

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Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow on Giants dot Com. Everybody, enjoy your

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01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: short week and you calm the stop and you're game tonight.

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