WEBVTT - US vs. Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Body 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.960 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:04.240 with Recent Choice Media. 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.560 Please join us up here on the stage Native Lamp Pod. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.440 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.800 Welcome home to the Native Landing on the podcast based 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.639 that's a for greatness, sixty minutes or so, hit not 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.800 too long for the grape shit, high level combo politics 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.479 in a way that you could taste it then digest it. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.479 Politics touches you even if you don't touch it. So 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.239 get invested across the t's and doctor ods kill them 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.960 back to get them staying on business with Rie. You 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:38.240 could have been anywhere, but you chose us Native Land Podcast, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.920 the brand that you can trust you. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.120 Welcome home. You're so happy here. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.560 For those of you who Jay I remember last year, 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.080 Tip and I made a breaking news announcement that we 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.800 were not authorized to break it that time, but it 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:56.680 was about this. 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.120 Very podcast, Native Lamppod. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:00.720 So to those of you, you who were at the 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.160 beginning of the home, before the home even started, we say. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:09.720 Welcome home, Welcome you. So we're going to be here, 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.240 and before we even jump into the. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.920 Substance of the podcast, let's roll that clip. Let's roll 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.000 that clip over there. I think y'all wrote that clip. 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:32.400 We need to hear blond's beach blonde that's built body blond, 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:37.240 bad built pleach blonde, bad built bush bodyach blonde, bad 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.440 built blond that built pleach blond, bad built bush bottom. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:42.240 I'm curious. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:48.680 Hey, Hey, that's where we're up against these days. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.440 We're up against a whole lot of beach blonde, bad built. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.160 About to say, but we want to replace one of 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.080 those B words, but we can't stop in ourselves. Apologies. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.000 Can you please warn the people that they are on TV? 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.440 And yes, it sounds like you're warning them now. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.000 Yes, Well, Angela was supposed to give y'all a legal 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.519 note that if you're in this room, you've agreed to 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.120 be on TV. And so if you find yourself in 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:20.560 our YouTube release of the show on Thursday evening or 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.680 maybe Friday morning, please do not sue. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:23.959 Kim. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.120 Your presence is your consent, and we thank you in 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:30.239 advance for yes. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.760 And even more so for those of you who engage. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.840 This is a town hall takeover as Brandon by our 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.000 good friend Kim Blackwell. Thank you, sister for having us 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.040 at this incredible conference. If you ask a question this 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.000 Mike is right here in the center. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.480 Of the room. You will state your name and where 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:46.600 you're from, and you are. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.560 Also authorizing us to record you on audio and video, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:50.679 so we are very grateful for that. 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.840 Can I say real quick, Yeah, I want to say 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.200 welcome home to the people in the audience here live 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.720 with us, but also welcome home to all y'all who 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.680 are listening who are not here at this conference. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.040 Come home, everybody. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.560 Yes, we are going to accelerate her in Miami. It 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:04.680 is our first live. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.079 Show of this election season. We're going to be campaigning 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.200 on our own because campaigns right now a little dry. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.520 So on that what we really wanted to talk about today. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.079 We normally spend a lot of time in politics. What 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.960 we believe is that politics are everywhere, and we talk 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.239 about that on every single show. And one of the 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.320 things that has been very present, especially for people in 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.720 this room, are the attacks on DEI. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:29.720 We know that there are up to eighty. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:33.240 Bills and roughly twenty eight states that are attacking diversity, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.560 equity and inclusion, and since January fourteen of those bills 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:42.080 have been signed into law. We know that there are 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.480 out of all the fortune one thousand, there is one 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.080 Fortune one thousand CEO and she will be honored at 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.800 this conference. Her name is Tashanda Decade for those of 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.600 you who all do not know, and she stands alone 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.560 right now, there's only one black woman CEO. Two percent 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.400 of the c suite for the Fortune five hundred are 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.320 black women. Four percent of board seats of companies in 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.280 the SMP are black women, and eighty six eighty six 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.400 of those seats were filled after the reckoning with George 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.920 Floyd in twenty twenty. We also know that last year 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.920 the Supreme Court had a disastrous ruling against affirmative action, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.440 and since then a lot of the companies that said 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.520 black lives matter said, actually. 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:27.920 Y'all don't matter that much. I ain't trying to really 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:29.800 have you in here like that. So we have to 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.400 face those attacks as well. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.640 We know for black women when if and how we 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.080 have children is under attack, to how we wear our hair, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:43.400 to how and where we learn and what we and 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.680 what we learn, and we also know that how we 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.440 fund our businesses is even under attack. And you all 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.760 will hear from Arian Simone about what she's experiencing and 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.560 the fight that she's up against at this conference. So 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.640 That's kind of how I wanted to to put this 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:05.800 the context of this conversation and lay that out there. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.960 We know that we also are under tremendous attack, even 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.560 in the legal field. We have spent a lot of 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.360 time on our podcast recently talking about our dear sister 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.720 and friend, Marilyn Moseby. I'll be leaving you all tomorrow 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.400 morning to go to her sentencing in Greenbelt, Maryland. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.279 We are fighting for her every day and the reason 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.960 for that, thank you. The reason for that is because 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.080 Marilyn is not the only one. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.880 I've talked about it on the podcast often. Andrew, who's 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.919 sitting next to us, could have been in that number. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.440 Andrew was acquitted, he had to pay a hefty legal 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.800 fee to make sure that he was adequately defended. But 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.039 it's not just the two of them. There was Aaron 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.560 Mesayala and Monique Wordell and all of these black women prosecutors, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:55.080 Kim Gardner, Rachel Rollins. We are under attack on every side. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:56.960 And part of what we know are call to action 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.640 is when we come here every year that Kim wants 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.120 us to sure is that we are figuring out how 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.720 we support each other so that when the attacks come TIF. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.720 We talked about your attacks last year. When the attacks come, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.560 we are ready to mount a ready defense and that 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.000 is what we want to talk about today. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.600 Thank you for setting it up that way, Angela, and 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.240 I know we don't have to tell y'all in the 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.320 room the state of DEI, but it truly does cast 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:25.360 a dark shadow of influence over so many sectors. And 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.520 just to add to make sure you all understand that 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.440 the center of this conversation, it is a conversation with us. 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.520 But we're here live because we wanted to be a 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.839 conversation with you, So y'all are not being talked at today. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.800 We want to talk with you all today. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.159 And as we give calls to action to our audience 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.080 watching at home, we are also open and receptive to 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.400 the calls to actions you all have. I want to 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.640 thumbtack or add on to what Angela said about DEI. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.719 There are proactive attacks happening. Last year, thirteen attorneys general 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:59.480 sent letters to private sector companies asking them to re 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:05.440 examine their DEI policies in wake of the law. That's 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.479 what I would call a threat. It's not a request, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.960 it's a threat. And so there are people who are 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.560 responding to this. So whatever happens in politics, it definitely 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.280 impacts the private sector, and it should not be incumbent 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.600 upon the private sector to play a political role in 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.280 upholding are just our guaranteed rights. But increasingly so, that's 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:27.880 what's happening. And I know a lot of the people 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:31.040 in this room, in those listening at home, you all 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:32.840 hold the line for us. So I do want to 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.920 say thank you to everybody in this room and everybody 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.800 who's at home, who has stood up for someone who 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.320 was their subordinate, who has supported someone who was their superior, 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.160 who has opened a door for someone who looked like them, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:46.440 who has hired. 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.600 Themselves over and over and over, because that's what it takes. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.040 And it's a lot of fear driven responses now and 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.840 we have to get ahead of that as well. So 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.080 thank you all for being here and enjoying the conversation. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:02.760 There's a microphone right there, so as y'all have thoughts, comments, questions, please. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.400 Feel free to jump in and be a part of 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:05.400 the conversation as well. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.040 Yeah, and I'll just add and I just want to 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.920 thank you all for creating this space. I was blown 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.720 away by some of the background and the work that 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.520 you each do. And of course my thought immediately ran to, well, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.680 who the hell is carrying a little while y'all are here? 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.440 As I think about the roles that you play every 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.720 single day in somebody's life. If it's not at the boardroom, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.800 it's ensuring payroll works out this month. If it's not that, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.520 it's client development. If it's not that, maybe it's home 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.960 and taking care of all the things that require your 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.840 attention because for some reason. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.079 Nobody else knows how to do it. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.560 And so in that spirit, I just want to say 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.439 thank you, thank you for the service, and also thank 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:51.560 you for being. What is any irrational request of any 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.040 of society to have, but you all often rise to 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.559 it and go above it, and that is that we 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:02.600 expect you to be superheroes every day in every aspect. 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:02.800 Of your life. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.920 And when that doesn't come through quite the way that 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.000 you would like it too, because we on the benefactor 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:10.880 side are like, thank you, keep it moving, and you 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.440 allt to like, that could have gone better, And if 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.439 I had just the second more, this is how it 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.280 could have been done. I just I think it's an 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.160 amazing attribute to you and it deserves and acknowledgment. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:22.720 And then the only other thing I. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.880 Would say is, and I learned this through my experience 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.760 having gone and fought the federal government and trial, and 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.719 that is, there are the people who you expect to 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.839 show up for you and to have your back, and 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.120 maybe even some of you expected that you might lean 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.480 out in a different kind of way. And I guess 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.719 to satiate that a little bit, I would say, we 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:47.280 all have roles to play here. And the people I 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.880 was mad at who didn't show up at the courtroom, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.880 I didn't consider for a moment what risks they may 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.360 be putting themselves in that might impact their ability to 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.760 bring home a check next month, the month after, or 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.800 the month after. And so seeing those people where they were, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.920 I think it helped me to get over very quickly 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.880 the fact that it isn't always about us. Sometimes it's 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.000 about them, and the way they show up is how 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:12.960 they can show up for you, because that's the best 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:13.360 they can do. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:14.320 In that moment. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.599 I heard it preached one time, and I'll stop that 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.320 because we may be lions, we may be folks who 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:24.320 are going to show up squad formation every time somebody 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:29.080 finds themselves in the crosshairs. We are expecting the people. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:30.440 Who we ride with to do the same. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.200 And guess what, a lot of those people have been 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.560 camouflaging as lions and lionesses. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.679 And they are hyaenas. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.839 And you can't expect a hyaena to perform like a 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.839 lion because it just doesn't know how. And so in 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.960 the way that they perform, they're just doing what they 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.400 know how to do. And I think if we have 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.880 grace in that way and in our own way, keep 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.760 the pressure around to show up every time that we 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.720 can and the most persistent and helpful way we can, 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.560 I think it goes a long way. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:02.400 We notice it, and the people who you stand in 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.439 the gap for notice it. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:05.960 Can I ask you and you and Andrew a question 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.760 because I take your point. You've said that a lot. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.719 Andrew counseled me when I was going through things, and 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.400 you know, he said to me, you expect hyenas to 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.160 be lions to our lioness and our lion on stage. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.280 I'm just curious and to the people in the audience, 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.760 I kind of do expect us to be lions, you know, 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.839 because it is challenging when we are ten percent of 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.640 us are lions protecting ninety percent of hyaenas. It's exhausting, 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.640 And I just think the more people if we all 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.679 speak out, we all hold the line. If we all 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.319 do something, they can't cancel everybody, they can't fire everybody. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.480 They literally can't live without us. So I'm just curious, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.199 as you say we should have grace from you all's thoughts, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.520 like where do you fall on that? Like how what 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.520 is the expectation from the folks in this room, the 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.880 folks who are listening, who do operate out of a 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.439 righteous and understandable fear, But we're saying, no, you have 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.440 to check your fear and lock arms with us. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.880 I don't even know if you have to check your fear. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.679 I think that you have to move anyway, you know. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.800 And I think the other thing is so funny that 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:07.240 you're like, I have a question, because I was going 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.360 to ask this question and I will kind of do 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.560 this as a focus group whole with the audience. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.160 How many of you all are exhausted by the attacks. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:16.439 Like that? 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.400 I mean, it doesn't give any real room. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.439 And so if you know that you're sitting next to 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.160 your sister or your brother or your friend, and you're like, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.760 I know, that I'm tired, and I know that you're tired, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.840 but maybe we're not tired in the same way. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.600 How can I support you like you might find an extra. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.440 Little boost of energy and support from that, like one 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.439 of the things that I'll give you all really as 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.240 a testimony and to me, all of these folks are lions. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.240 I have a professional development program that I talked to 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.360 you all about last year too. 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.680 These young people, y'all have blown my mind. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.440 Joe Teika is nodding because when with black women, there 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.680 are another source of constant strength, a source of lines, 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:56.960 and that is a reflection of Joe. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:57.839 That's how she is. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.440 She doesn't expect anything else but excellence from us, even 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:02.560 in our weakness. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.559 And the time I'm about to cry talking about I'm 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:04.960 not doing. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.920 This, but thank you, Joe, I see you, I love you, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.480 And I'm thinking about these young women who were like 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.280 Maryland Moseby could be us. They have shown up doing 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.600 graphics better than any graphic I could have imagined. Kim's 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.640 a testament about control. That's what we talk about all 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:27.280 the time, like showing up like videos a social campaign. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.840 They've been like they ordered T shirts with the QR 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.240 codes on like they are ready for tomorrow. And it 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.040 was there were things that I hadn't even considered in 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:40.040 my exhaustion, And in my exhaustion I leaned up against 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.960 some young folks who were tired, but they were tired 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.800 in a different way and got covered Maryland got covered 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.440 in ways that we couldn't have even imagined. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.480 So I think the lesson in that is in your exhaustion. One, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.760 you don't have to do it all because you can't, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:56.000 you know. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.199 And I think the second thing would be if you 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.400 ask some one for help, it might be the best 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.760 thing you could have ever done, because they probably can 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.439 do it better than you do, you know what I mean, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.920 Like you really might be blown away. So not only 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:16.079 are we lions, they might be cubs, but they're in development. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.559 Everybody ain't a hyaena. Every want a hyaena? And stay 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.280 the hell away from me though, Andrew, Yeah. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.560 When I say hyenas, I don't say it as a 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.160 judgment against them. I say it from some people are 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.680 living their lives wherein they are accountable to somebody else 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.600 for how they get paid, whether they can show up 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:35.880 at the job site the next day. 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.040 I just want to acknowledge that. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:44.280 Bold bodacious, incredible ways in which we try to show 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:44.960 up for each other. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.560 There's a sense of liberation and freedom that affords that. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.240 And everyone doesn't have the same thing, but we all 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:54.320 have something. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.880 And I guess the requests they asked would be that 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.160 we lean more in to the something that we might 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.960 be able to do. No, you can't stand on the 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.200 corner for me, because your boss drives that way every 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:07.840 day and if he sees you out there holding a 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.040 pro sign for me, you may face some consternation. But 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.000 could you write a check or at least ask four 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.200 your seat mates at church to pass you with twenty 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.440 five dollar check for this young man who you believe 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.800 how to get there and you've got limitations on the 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.840 ways that you can do that. Or could you be 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.040 the CEO and instead of leading the protests, maybe through 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:33.280 your procurement policies, you are changing rules and contract negotiations 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.360 and bid agreements so that the people who then get 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:41.400 access to the opportunity to compete, their lives are transformationally 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.520 altered forever, and their children's children and their children's children's 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.320 children will be the benefactors of it. So there are 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.280 ways in which I think all of us have a 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.120 role to play. We may not be marching today, but 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.000 you might be in the in the boardroom changing some 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.960 policies that then creates a whole new generation of black millionaire. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.000 That's such a great point. I want to Speaking of 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.880 black millionaires, we got some in this room and some 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:14.960 that have questions. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.000 I'm gonna call on Jewel. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.000 Jewel told me she had something she was gonna say, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.760 so I'm gonna call her up so she can come 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:20.200 to the mic. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:21.840 And I'm gonna call on Britney too. I don't know 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.200 where Britney and Joe Taga. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.440 I know we've talked about Y'll take Edi on this 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.720 podcast a few times and she told me her question 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.560 in the in the hallway, So yes, I want Y'll 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:30.880 take her to. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.880 None of them going up to the mic. What's going on? 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.400 Like I wonder if they just deep thought what Andrew 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.960 said preached so good, they were just arrested in the spirit. Yes, ma'am, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.960 say your whole name and where you're from, because you 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:44.720 are a legend. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.880 Oh wow, thank you. Hello everyone. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.000 My name is juel Burg Solomon and I am managing 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.000 partner at Collab Capital, which is in the early stage 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:58.760 venture capital fund investing in black lead innovation companies across 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:07.080 the US. Yes, and to the points about lions and hyenas, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:08.720 I'm experiencing. 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:09.280 That in my day to day. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.960 What I want to talk about and get you all's 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.879 opinion on is giving away early victories. I'm seeing that 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.280 where people are afraid they don't want to be the 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.080 next target for some of these lawsuits, and so they 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.360 are making changes. They're changing their policy, they're changing their website, 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.000 they're changing their purpose. And we have made a stand 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.320 that we're not going to do that. We are very intentional. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.680 We understand the need for black entrepreneurs and so we're 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.000 not changing anything. But by other people giving away those 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.800 early victories and making those changes, it does put us 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.480 more of a spotlight on us and what we're doing. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.120 And so I guess it's an urge to people who 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.840 do have control and power to not just say, Okay, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.919 Edward blooming your posse, you got it, will make the adjustment. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.840 We don't need to make the adjustment because we're on 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.720 the right side. So curious about you know how you 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.960 all see that? And encouragement for those of us who 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.320 want to stand as lions. But maybe in an even 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.119 worse spot because folks are already kind of giving the 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:14.840 victory away. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:16.520 I love that question. 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.200 I'm gonna just because we just talked about this, I 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.280 want Joe Taka to offer some answers on that question. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.200 And while she makes her way to the mic, we'll 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.800 jump in. But Angela, I think that's a good place 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:30.560 for you because I was just thinking about your Angela. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:31.000 She will. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.399 Don't let her deflect. I'm gonna tell y'all, Angela is 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.480 the chiefest staff to the Blacks. We always say that 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.280 her because she will jump out there and be in 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.080 charge of something. And with this entire Marilynd Moseby situation, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.800 like she has coordinated, she has spearheaded all of this. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.840 Then she has an ability in leadership. When she asks, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:47.720 people will deliver. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.040 And even asking asking hyenas to be a lion, they 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:52.520 might not even know they were a lion, but they 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:55.640 become a lion when you empower them. So, having worked 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.880 on Capitol Hill and you know had all this, I'm 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:02.280 curious how you get people when you call and ask 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:02.919 they say. 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.560 Yes, well, I love you. But I'm not about to 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.760 answer that question. No, I'm not. I want to answer Jewel. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.040 I love Jules question Jewel. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.080 I'm gonna say something controversial and people might stage walk out, 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.359 So we're just gonna have to roll with this. You 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.040 know what, white folks really got us beat on strategy. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.560 They really got us beat on strategy. Why do we 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.879 have to tell them on our websites, on our social 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.000 media everything that we are doing that we intend to do. 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.040 I think that there are things that we can do 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.760 that are strategic where we still decide what businesses were 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.720 going to fund, what people were going to hire, what 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.720 kids are going to get the scholarship, how we're going 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:46.960 to organize. 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.080 And they don't need to know our business. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.600 For example, America First Legal that was stood up by 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.640 Stephen Miller. They say on there that they are protecting 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.000 our patriotic duty to do whatever bs. I ain't gonna 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:58.680 cusco with my daddy and then listen to get mad. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:02.719 But like they ge to say that and beat the patriots, 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.119 why can't your fund be the fun patriots? 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.080 Do they have us beat on strategy or do they 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.000 have US beat on power? 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:10.320 They have us beat on both. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.560 So I hear people in the audience saying both say 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.560 it to my bank, Yes, I. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.880 They can also fund their strategies. Like I'm right, we're brilliant. 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:25.399 We're brilliant with less. 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:26.760 That's what I'm saying. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.560 Like sometimes black folks, it's like I'm trying to figure 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.439 I got some note in the mail that my mortgage 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:32.200 company with switched. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.960 I got two kids in school and cousin JJ and 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:36.040 need money for the prom. 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.359 And on top of that, I gotta care about climate 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.879 change and Trump and my local elections in. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:41.920 The school board, you know. 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.560 And I think even when we talk about Republicans have 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.200 having better messaging and strategy, it's like, no, you're just 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.800 talking to a dumber crowd. We have more things on 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.240 our hands, and you're the people you're speaking to. I say, 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.600 are less curious about things happening? If I can lead 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.920 with the racism, I'm already sold with white folks. That's 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.399 how it goes with us. I think we're just a 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.880 little more curious about things. Yeah, but I disagree, Okay, 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:07.760 do you disagree with me all the time? 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.080 And then it is I think. 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.640 White people's power in this country, in this world has 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:21.560 had so much time to experiment, pass, fail, reinvent itself. 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.359 But what is insatiable about them is their addiction to power, 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:34.840 and your addiction to power will allow all kinds of creative, innovative, illegal. 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.000 Ideas to percolate, and you. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.200 Get to try them things out without any consequence because 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.760 you own it all and for us where and we 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:46.720 may not own it all. 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.520 Every step we take may be risking at all. You 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.760 don't tend to want to commit suicide. 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.760 You want to exist, Your body wants to exist, You 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.639 want to thrive one day, and all of that can 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.440 be upended by us making just one false move. And 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:08.480 when I say false move, it could be the right move. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.000 It could be the right move. But the person, the purveyor, 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:13.840 the one who has the ability to give it and 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.680 take it, has determined that it's the wrong move. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:17.680 And then that's it. 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:21.080 And so I don't think we're less curious. I think 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:25.000 we have less capacity for creativity because of the conditions 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:26.119 in which we exist. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.920 I was saying they were less curious, not us. We 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:30.560 are curious. They are. 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:33.760 I don't know that they're less curious or that it matters. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.800 I think what they are is addicted to power, and 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.560 that addiction allows them to create. 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:40.840 All the solutions. 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:46.000 The second, third, fourth tertiary option that don't work. You know, 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.320 they can do it because there's nobody coming up right 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:54.280 behind them that they they nearby fear losing their power 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.600 to Even the rise of the majority of black and 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.680 brown people doesn't scare them by itself, because the world 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.840 is all always been run by a smaller group of 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.800 the bourgeoisie that haves, and it's only about ten percent 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:07.120 of them. 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:11.240 The rest of us just on the board. The rest 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:12.760 of us are just pieces on the board that can 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:13.359 be moved. 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.520 Okay, speaking of movie, I'm moving, where'd y'all take it go? 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.320 She's like, I'm sitting down, I ain't got time for go. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:19.400 We're gonna go to Joe. 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.280 But I just want to remind y'all, Jule's question was 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.480 not about white people's powers, about how to use ours. 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.000 Go ahead, Joe, Well, good evening. 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:31.480 I'm Joe take Edie, strategist, investor and founder of hashtag 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:36.000 Win with black women. I wanted to and I totally 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.359 agree with Joel in terms of we have to be 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:43.880 careful about pre empting the attacks. I do also want 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.760 to talk about this notion of power because in these 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.879 attacks that we are facing, particularly as black women, and 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.680 I believe we were in a conversation. I think Britt 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.520 is going to talk in a minute. But what we 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.440 see over and over again, whether or not it is 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.920 our sisters injustice, our sisters in corporate wherever, it is 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:08.800 the same strategy. And it is about the allure, the control, 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.000 and it's all about power and the fear connected to 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:17.640 that desire for power leads to a very ambitious, very 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.280 well funded strategy to attack and we have to be 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.600 very careful. I call it the three d's. First, they 0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:29.600 will work to discredit, largely a black woman. That will 0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:33.879 be a discredit a smear campaign. Second, a detachment, and 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.000 that is the most dangerous aspect of the strategy is 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.960 when we are detached from our root and our base. 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.520 Because once you are isolated, and you're talking about the 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.280 lions and the hyenas, but anytime you are in the wild, 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:53.639 an animal that is isolated is most easily attacked. And 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.439 so once you are detached from your people and your roots. 0:24:57.840 --> 0:24:59.960 Even if you are detached from the roots of where 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.280 you know you come from and your strength, if you 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.000 are mentally detached, then they can destroy you. And so 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:09.400 we have to be very careful that we cannot afford 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.840 to let not any one of us be attacked, because 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.040 an attack on one of us is attack on all 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:16.919 of us, and it is an attack on us as 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.360 a whole, as a people. And so that is why 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.640 we always have the truth, speak truth to power, even 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.240 if it's uncomfortable, even if it's not necessarily the most 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:29.640 popular thing to do, because that is how we will 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.679 remain resilient, and that is how we have to remain 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:34.240 as a people. 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.960 Thank you, Joe, Joe, Thank you Joe. 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.639 You do realize you're being attacked in this way because 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.240 you are being so successful in so many others. The 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.200 shot has to be fired over the bow so that 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.119 anybody who's looking at you, who's inspired by you, who 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.760 thinks they can come behind you and have the temerity 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.399 to do the same thing that they see out loud 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.359 in public, for everybody to know this that if you 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.600 come for that crown, this is how we level you. 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.760 Some people blame Fani for everything that's happened in Georgia 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:10.639 and the derailing of that case, and I submit, and 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.000 I said it on our pod. It doesn't matter what 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.880 she did or did not do. This will have always 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.520 been the strategy. If it wasn't true, they would make 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.680 it up. What they make up, they then go further 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:27.800 to fabricate and to continue to perpetuate, and they they 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.960 have no shame about lying left right, backwards, upside down. 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.679 But it's our lives, our credibility, our community. And then 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.280 too often sometimes we're the first ones to say, now 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.960 you should have known better, and then we're gonna be 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:41.760 loud about you should have known. But you should have 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:46.480 known better is inside the house conversation. It's not for everybody. 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.640 Yeah, we said about FAM. You ain't talking about FAM. 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.440 You to y'all, you don't care about it. 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.040 You ain't you go there. 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:54.119 You ain't no rally, you. 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.080 Don't get no money, you don't give anything, you don't 0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.399 pay no rent. There's no way you are occupying space. 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:04.040 So some of our conversations have to be internal. But 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.960 I just have to say, there's a poem that that 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.800 one of those lines is it's when things seem worse 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:10.920 that you mustn't quit. 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.640 That's how you know. You getting close to the line, 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.440 that's how you That's how you know they scared. That's 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:17.560 how you know that they are. 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.760 They are right for their existence, and the ones who 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.720 are in alignment with them, are the ones who have 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.880 closest proximity to them. That's how we lose white women voters. 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.120 They're getting killed over here. Yeah, but because they're married 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.280 to a white man and they have a white child 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.920 who's maybe a son, their proximity keeps them connected to 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.480 this system that doesn't love them, doesn't respect them, does 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.840 nothing for them. Into the passage of those men in 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:47.160 their lives, They're back to where they were at the beginning. 0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:48.160 Shame. 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:55.679 And I think, Brittany, Yes, where's britt britt The bishop 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:56.240 got a word? 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:57.680 Bishop, We had a word. 0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.400 I mean I had, I had a question you want 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:00.600 me to. 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:06.520 I do think though, to first of all, Jule, last 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.440 week I was going through the Atlanta Airport and who's 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.240 face that I see on the ad yours? So I 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.160 just want to honor the work that you are doing 0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:17.159 and the impact that you are making on us, our people, 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.960 our communities, because even amidst all of the attacks, baby, 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.480 you are shining, and we love to see it because 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.560 we all shine with you when you shine. The other 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.320 thing I think to this point about attacking black women 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.560 is that in every era of and Angela, I want 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.800 you to know. I just finished my video about our 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.240 sister Maryland. So I talked about this in the video 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.760 and I'm about to post it. But what we know 0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.280 throughout history is that in every single era of progress 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:53.040 for marginalized people, there is a promised backlash. It is swift, 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.120 it is thorough, and it is precise. That pattern will 0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:02.200 always repeat itself. Right, Jim Crowd reconstruction, right, Trump was 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.520 the answer to Obama, These things consistently happen. So after 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:10.440 twenty fourteen through twenty twenty, now we're experiencing that intense backlash. 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.320 And the goal is always to make the status quo permanent, right, 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.840 that the folks who hold power are able to hold 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.040 it forever, and anybody who would dare try to snatch 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.800 any morsel of it from their hands be damned. So 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.040 if we know that that's true, and we know the 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.000 backlashes promise, and we know that that's their blueprint, the 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.800 good news is that we also know our ancestral blueprints. 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.200 We know our history's blueprints. 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.000 We know what we've written, we know the stories that 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.840 we've shared with each other, we know the lore and 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.360 the legacy that we are able to push through our 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.680 not just and to Joe take 's point, not just 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.000 through our written words and our formal leadership, but through 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.640 our connectivity, through our community, through those ancestral, rooted practices 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.640 that we've been doing in that white supremacy separated us 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.880 from right. The function of whites premicy really is to 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.200 separate us from our own knowing. And going back to 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.880 our own knowing helps us sustain because the truth of 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.360 the matter is they come after black women because they 0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.960 knows that nobody else can be taken down quite as 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.040 swiftly as a black woman. They know that we're not defended. 0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.920 They know that we're not protected. Malcolm X already told 0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:23.440 us that, right. So if we get so impenetrable, if 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:27.520 we get together so tight and link our arms so 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.240 well that nobody and nothing can come in between us, 0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.200 that we are the lions that they are afraid of, 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:38.000 permanently and perpetually, they can't come for us because they'll 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:38.880 know they can't win. 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.000 And that's the work we have to do. 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.480 That's the purpose of accelerate her right, so that we're 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.200 actually building those connections intergenerationally, and we're not just saying 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.400 you got it, good luck, cist, but actually saying. 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.600 No, I'm linking arms so that we can come along together. 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.120 Come out, preacher. Thank you Brittany Pagnet cutting down the 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.800 doors of the church. Now, oh geez gets to it 0:30:58.840 --> 0:30:59.480 the question again. 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:04.440 But speaking of my question and speaking of us moving 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.960 along together, to move up political for us. Second, even 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.320 though the personal is political for black women, shout out 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.080 to the kambah Hea River Collective. There is an understanding 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.440 that I think we all have in this moment ahead 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.200 of this presidential election where not only is the top 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.600 of the ticket important, abortion rights are on the ballot, 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.760 voting rights are on the ballot, the futures for our 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.880 young people are on the ballot, guns are on the ballot, 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:32.880 Climate change, all of that stuff is on the ballot, 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:33.680 up and down. 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:35.920 So we know how important this election is. 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.800 And we know that we've seen some of the polling 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.160 that if the election we're done today, that there are 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.440 a number of black people who said they will sit out. 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.200 The good news is the election is not happening today, 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.920 and we still got time to engage with our people, 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.440 not con to send our people into voting, but to listen, 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.959 to engage, to understand, and to meet folks where they are, 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.200 to invite all of us into a different way of 0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:59.200 being to move forward. 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.760 So this is my question. In the era that we 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:08.680 have right now, we know that black votes are. 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.480 Consistently taken for granted, and if we are going to 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.840 get our things, not only on the agenda, but the 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:19.400 policies that truly benefit us past consistently that we have 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.880 to show up, like all of these other groups and 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.400 all of these other issues, with the level of force 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:28.840 and power and fully operating that power. And we also 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.200 know what will happen to us and the rest of 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:32.959 the world if body loses. 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:34.920 So how are you all? 0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.240 And we've talked about this, but I would love for 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.560 the room and your listeners to hear how you all 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:44.320 are threading that needle and having those loving, respectful conversations 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.400 with our family members, with our cousins, with the folks 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.959 we sit next to on the plane wherever, about how 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.160 to thread that needle to say, yes, we need to 0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.920 stand in our full power, and we need to make 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.760 sure that we engage that radical pragmatism that black people 0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.520 use all the time to set the conditions for our fight. 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.280 Because I'd rather fight Biden than fight Trump. I love that. 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:09.520 Feedback on this tiff. 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.440 Under Hey, I'll you know what I always talk about 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.480 the same thing. Thank you for that, Brittany Pacnet Cunningham. 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.320 For the folks who are listening and can't see you 0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.640 appreciate that. So I think one of the wonderful things 0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.600 about our podcast is we feel avoid and so something 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.640 that I take very seriously, and like you said, britt 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.920 it is professional. It's my professional grooming, but also my 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.680 personal commitment, and that is disrupting the narrative that the 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:42.040 white run mainstream media puts out there. And so something 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.280 we've talked about was this narrative that you know, all 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.200 the black folks, but particularly black men, are running to 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.040 vote for Trump. Yes, that is, there are people out 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.760 there who are considering voting for him. But I looked 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.320 at this in the media and I thought I would 0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.480 no sooner lay the failure of this democracy at the 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.600 feet of black men. And you ain't said lock about 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:08.120 the white conservative folks across every socioeconomic demographic. And you 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.799 want to keep promoting this narrative and pushing that out 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.080 there and pushing that out there, and the disrespect it 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.880 is when black men ninety eight percent of whom vote Democrat, 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.520 and of course black women do overwhelmingly, so They also 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.719 will plug people who don't have a background in politics, 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.799 are not well versed, not well formed. But you put 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.800 this person on to be the voice of what you 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.200 want to talk about in serious issues for us, and 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.520 they only do that in the black community. Tell me 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.360 when the last time was that you heard Joe Rogan 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.959 on CNN talking about policy. Tell me when they ask 0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:44.040 Amy Schumer's opinion on what's happening in the Middle East. 0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.480 But you have no problem putting a comedian on, an actor, 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.600 on a rapper on to talk about serious issues. I 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.040 think we have to demand more respect for ourselves and 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.319 support independent media, and for those of who still work 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.960 in media, who are in decision making positions in media, 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.760 let your voices, let our voices be heard. It should 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.000 not have to be it's okay for us to speak 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.680 a truth only after white folks say it. Only after 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.440 white folks make it acceptable to drop a cultural reference 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.400 or hip hop music on and then the rest of 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.160 the black folks can do it, and now it's okay. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.600 That erodes our trust in media. 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.880 And when we saw that happen in the twenty sixteen election, 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.520 there was an overwhelming amount of people who started getting 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.319 their news from social media, and we later found out 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:31.040 this was the Internet Russia agency pumping false narrative because 0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:32.880 they spent two seconds here and said, oh, I know 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.160 the way to mess up the election. They treat black 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.400 folks really messed up over there, So let's make that 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:39.080 our narrative. 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:40.920 So that's my personal commitment. 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.719 Every time we talk about something, I'm constantly giving pushback 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:45.279 on what the media says. 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:46.680 So thank you for that question. 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.080 I think this is a good time for us to 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.520 open up really into solutions. One thing I know that 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.359 we all are clear about is the challenges that we're 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.360 up against. But this is a very unique, unique space 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.760 for us every year to come together, even as Jovian 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:21.399 challenged us this morning around stating our intentions, being clear 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.240 about what we want and making sure we're creating this space, 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:25.600 it's a safe space here. 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.520 Native lampod too, is a safe space. 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.080 We say welcome home because we want people to feel 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.960 like this is a safe space to discuss your issues, 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.640 to raise your questions. But I think even beyond that, 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.800 beyond this room, beyond this particular session in time with 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.800 this live podcast, we want you all to feel like 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.120 this convening is a safe space so there's something you 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.640 need from this room. If you're under attack right now 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.640 and you haven't said it out loud, you've been afraid 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.040 to say it out loud. 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:53.120 You know. 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.600 If you are like I don't want to be under attack, 0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.000 how can I prevent That's what jul is saying. Really, 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.799 I don't want that attack because my mission in life 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.640 is not to be fighting them. It is to be 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.919 providing a pathway for us. What is the safest way 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.360 that we can ensure that? Those are the kinds of 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.560 things now, with the time we have remaining that I 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.480 want to make sure you all are sharing with us. 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.040 I'm calling on them for help because, as I said, 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:18.480 I've learned a remarkable lesson in this season in life. 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.879 I think I know a lot of the answers I've learned. 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:22.640 I don't have them all, and I'm good with that. 0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.560 You know, ye, I see your hand. I would love 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.280 for you to make your way to this microphone because 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.240 that is what we have, so you'll be on camera. 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.560 A reminder that you stepping up here means you're on 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.000 camera and you have a consentant, is that Jessica? 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.560 Yes, yeah, Miss Jessica. 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.560 Where you're from? For the people who can't see you 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:42.040 on the podcast listening. 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.560 Hey everyone, my name is Jessica Nabango, and I love 0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.160 that you brought up the idea of solutions and that's 0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.880 just what I want to speak to because for me 0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.239 in this era, in the last basically since twenty twenty four, 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.879 for me, I've been talking to friends about the blacklash 0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.799 and specifically financially because for a lot of us who 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:01.960 are creators or you know. 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.439 Work as gig workers. 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.200 Essentially where gig workers looking for speaking engagements and brand 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.280 deals and whatnot, it has it hasn't dried up completely 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:13.520 hopefully like luckily for me, it's not completely dry, but 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.799 we've definitely seen it scale back. 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.560 And so one thing we need to discuss I feel like. 0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.239 More of and I'm going to work with Kim for 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.360 next year for this, and I love the announcement of 0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.120 the venture fund is I think we have to discuss 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:30.960 finances more but integrated, right so we know, like there's 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.480 Tiffany the Budget Nesto, who's amazing, we know about the 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.799 podcast that exists, but I think we need more integration. 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.719 I think that black people generally don't like to talk 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.680 about money. They definitely don't want to talk about debt. 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.359 They don't want to talk about all of these things. 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:44.920 But I think it's enough of it. 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:45.960 You so what. 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.160 Right exactly say it's not enough of it, But it's like, 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.279 how do we take what we have and grow it 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.720 without having to wait for more income? 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:56.040 Right? 0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.319 So I'm someone I've been investing in the stock market 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.680 for a long time and I have like a variety investments, 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.840 whether it's art, it's stock, it's real estate, whatever it is. 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.120 I think we have to have more open conversation about 0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.879 that in a very practical manner, but also integrated into 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.920 social justice conversation because the only way we're going to 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.440 survive is if we can take care of ourselves. And 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.520 in order to take care of ourselves, we have to 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.359 be able to have the money we had, no matter 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.719 how little or how much, we have to be able 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.520 to take that money and grow it. Like I love 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.480 the brands that are hearing, there's so many things that 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.360 we can purchase, and I'm here to buy. 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:29.000 All of the things. 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.080 But I also want to know if I see you 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.160 with a Chanel bag, I know you better have investments 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.040 ten times that and if you don't, that's a conversation 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.440 that we need to be having. 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:40.000 You heard some feelings. 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.719 No, it's not. 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.400 It's on the podcast again as a reminder it is 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.279 being recorded, but it is a family conversation. 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.759 I love this so much, Jessica, in part because you were. 0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:56.000 Like, I have investments, and you listed the variety of 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.920 investments for so many people who are serving as influencers 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.360 and even are on shows. 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:02.680 That is not the case. 0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.720 I'm gonna tell you. I hope I'll get in trouble 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.960 with our with our girl thread, but we have some 0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.320 of the folks in here who are on it. We 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:11.520 had to have a conversation about tax lawyers. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.120 I was just talking. I was having lunch and talking 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.400 to people about tax strategy. 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.200 We had to have a conversation about tax lawyers because 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.840 of tax leans and tax debt and not and not 0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.360 knowing that once you left your job, now you're responsible 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:26.720 for paying quarterly taxes. 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.360 It feels really basic to people who grow up in business. 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.600 It was not basic for some of us, or for 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:33.040 some of us. 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.000 I'm gonna put my daddy business others some of us 0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.720 who had dads who did businesses and still just collected 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:38.279 the tax debt. 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:38.920 You understand. 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.440 Sorry daddy but like this is the thing. We have 0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.600 to have these conversations. I'm gonna come find you because 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:46.319 I'm gonna come learn. 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:47.680 Oh yeah, forty four. 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.279 And don't know enough about this still out here reckless okay, 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:51.520 So thank you. 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:54.880 I'm twenty four and don't know enough about it. So 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:55.320 thank you. 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:59.040 I love it, Tim, It's so fun being your mentor. 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.120 Thank you, thank you, my sister. I would I'll just say, 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.760 this isn't a solution. This is a problem. 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.640 But a lot of us, Jessica to talk about public speaking, 0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:10.960 and a lot of us our income is clunky, you know. 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.319 So you may get a big load of money from 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:18.160 January to March. And I know, for me, i'm you know, 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.040 hood rich sometimes and it's not that I'm balling. I 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.040 don't own a Chanel bag, I'll tell you, but I'm 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.560 not giving the government my money because I'm gonna hold 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.120 on to this money because I have to. I used 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.120 to wait till the last minute to pay bills because 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:32.799 I never knew when the ground was gonna drop from 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.759 under me, and I need that money to eat. Twenty 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.879 years later, I still have that mentality and that PTSD. 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.800 Growing up poor and black in this country is traumatic. 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.200 You carry it with you for a long time. And 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.279 so now if I get a big pot, if I 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.480 get six figures of income, I'm not giving that half 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.919 to the government. I'm waiting until I get the next 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.280 big income to put half of that money away because 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.480 I'm nervous about when I'm going to get another check. 0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.800 So that's my reality. I think that's a lot of 0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:01.960 the reality for a lot of people out there. So 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.799 of all the people who are in this room from 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.000 financial institutions, please come find me or I will come 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:07.400 find you. 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.439 That that that fear, and I like it makes sense 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.920 for all of us. But it's not just individual it's 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:19.680 because the system is acting to protect itself. The reason 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:21.840 why they don't worry the same way we worry is 0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.480 because they know about all of those safety nets that 0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:28.640 exist for them, and those same safety nets don't exist 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.680 for us, the same way you misuse some funds from 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:37.360 that recovery. I saw black folks being led through the 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:41.799 federal courthouse in my area, Like, you know, there. 0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:45.000 Was a I ain't gonna be staff that that'd be uh. 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:47.279 I was gonna say, like it was a fish fry, 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.400 but it was my and what I was going to 0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.080 say about that was horribly stereotypical. 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.760 But I love fish, and I'll throw a fish try anyway. 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.680 But the but the point, the point is is that 0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.920 they were marching us through there like it was the 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.320 marching one hundred a Florida and m University right on. 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:07.800 These little puny nothing nothing, nothing, but they get the education. 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.960 They fall into the loop, They fall into the whole first, 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.520 and then they create a salve so that they never 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:15.799 have to fall into it again. 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:20.080 But for us, this no south. We were a distraction 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:21.000 in the first place. 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.080 I see Lovey walk up. 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:26.160 And since we're and since we're in our time where 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.680 we're we're getting some solutions, we're gonna get one. 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:29.680 I know she got a good one. 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:32.160 This sister, if you don't know, is in New York 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:37.080 Times best selling author four times, yea four times. And 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.160 Lovey is gonna be my one sister friend today. Who's 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:42.560 gonna say her name and where she's from? Because the 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.520 rest of y'all ain't following no directions. What's up with that, y'all? 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.719 Like you know who I am? Look me up me ba, 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:48.120 go ahead. 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.680 So I'm loving Jay Jones and I'm an author, speaker 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:52.760 and book advisor. 0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.080 I am from Chicago by way of Nigeria. 0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.640 And one of the things that I think is a 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.520 solution to a lot of our problems as a community 0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:08.600 is vulnerability. Whether it is our community building, whether it's 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.080 in finance, whether it's in books. 0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:15.320 It's about our inability to be siloed. 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:18.000 One allow ourselves to be soilo because I think officially 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.520 becomes a choice that we choose over and over again. 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:22.800 Right, we know the ways of systems, we know the 0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:24.319 games that are being played. 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.960 We see the playbook, and yet we're saying, how am 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.600 I surprised that this game is being played? So I 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:33.440 think one of the things that we need is to 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.120 just start telling the truth, even when it scares us, 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.240 and I mean the truth of I feel lost, I'm drowning, 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.000 I'm overwhelmed, i am broke. 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:42.520 My company is crumbling. 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:46.400 Mine did last year shout out, and what saved me 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.680 was vulnerability to my TPG sisters, to my mentors, and 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.240 I was like, listen, I am drowning. 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.280 I'm about to be bankrupt in three months, I'm. 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.800 Firing my whole team. And as it's happening, them holding 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.400 me is what saved my life. Them giving me advice, but. 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.840 It started with me saying I need help. 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:05.839 Now. 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.839 What's happened is it's been beaten out of us, it's 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.520 been traumatized out of us. We've been told not to 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.960 trust each other, and then we walk around walking alone 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:16.120 when none of this. 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:17.800 Was ever supposed to be alone. 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.840 And I've had the privilege of having access to some 0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.680 rooms where I'm like, let me really figure out what's 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.279 happening here so I can tell my people what's going on. 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.200 So one day last year, I ended up in a 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.000 room where it was an invite only room for best 0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.480 selling authors. To be in the room, you had to 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.840 either have been a New York Times bestseller or have 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.120 sold two hundred and fifty thousand copies of your books. 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.600 In that room, there were only two black women, and 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.680 the other black women there was there because I made 0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.399 sure she was there, and I'm sitting in this room 0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:51.360 and we spent nine hours exchanging all the tips on 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.680 how we all became bestsellers. And what I realized is 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.120 all of them were best sellers because whenever one of 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.239 them was coming out of the book, they would all 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.560 take a week and sit with this person and say, so, 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.239 what are you doing for your book, and then we 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:10.400 wonder why we are not winning. There's an intentional I 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:11.160 need your help. 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.759 Please show up for me. What do you have. I 0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.759 need us to really start being honest with each other. 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.840 Don't flex about the Chanelle bag if you're struggling. Also, 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.640 I need you to say, hey, I need your help, 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:28.000 because when I would say personally, anybody who's coming out 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:28.840 with the book, I'm gonna. 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:29.600 Do a book session after this. 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:32.560 But I have been so upset for the last year 0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.239 when all these books by black women are coming out 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:36.640 and failing, and I'm. 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.920 Like, why didn't you call me? Yes, I could have 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:39.320 helped you. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.000 Like after the fact, I'm like, I could have helped you, 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:42.719 and they're like, I. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:43.960 Just didn't think you would. 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.520 I'm here so I need all of us to really 0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:50.560 start being honest with each other, show up for each 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.080 other for real. And when somebody tells you I will 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:57.759 help you, believe them. And I stand here today. One 0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.719 thing I know I can help everybody within this book 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.920 and in this room books. I don't want one person 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.520 to come out with a book in this room and 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.200 it tanks because I have all our numbers. Now I 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.120 know what every book is selling. Our books are failing, 0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:13.759 and it hurts my feeling every time. I'm like, y'all 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:17.480 could have called me so number one solution, let's just 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.840 start being honest and vulnerable with each other and know 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.520 we are all here to be helpmates and that's how 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.280 we shift culture, and that's how we shift everything. 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.440 Thank you. I love that. Thank you for your vulnerability. 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:32.279 Can y'all do me one favor because I think it's 0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:35.360 so important Again, Jovin, I'm still in all your material today, 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.759 but can you just look at your neighbor and say 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:44.600 I need help? That's all I need y'all to say, 0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.640 because we're still recording this podcast, but I think it's 0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.200 so important to say that, to do that because we 0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:54.520 have to be vulnerable. Lovey, you are so right. So 0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:56.719 that's a great place to start. So we know our 0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.480 first solution is vulnerability, being honest about your text it 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.560 and your chanail bag, being honest. If you need help 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.440 with your book, let me said, I'm here. That is 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.799 a New York Times bestseller four times over. 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.640 That's a formula. She got it figured out. Why you 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.920 want to ask her? What is were talking about? 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.239 Getting Angela in space is well? First of all, on 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:17.839 the books. I just want to shout out real quick 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.480 doctor Sharon Malone, who has a book out right now, 0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:24.440 girl Women's Hea Doctor Malone wa wave in there so 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.759 I ain't know. Yeah, so she has a book out. 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.160 I talk to Lovely if you haven't already, sare okay? 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:31.120 Good. 0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:33.360 So I just wanted to say really. 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.759 Quickly thank you to Kim Blackwell because this conference is 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:41.080 a setting of vulnerability. And last year Angela and I 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:45.600 were on the stage with doctor Joy, who moderated a 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:55.080 conversation with them. That's okay, well, why you come up 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.680 with something I want to say on that stage. I mean, 0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:01.600 it was really just like a conversation. And I'll shout 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.319 out Angela again. She'll deflect again. I'm gonna shout out again. 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:07.239 Angela is a kind of sister who you don't have 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.160 to say I need help. She sees you and says, 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.080 I know you need help, and I'm showing up. And 0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.239 there's something about that because if you say, well, what 0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.759 do you need, that's a burden to me because now 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:18.759 I'm trying to think of it. Sometimes it's helpful to 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:20.919 say here's what I think you need, and I'm gonna 0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.240 do it. You know I'm gonna uber eat you dinner tonight, 0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:25.279 or I'm gonna you know, I'll keep your kids, or 0:49:25.320 --> 0:49:26.799 I'll come over and cook you dinner. 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:27.560 Whatever that is. 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.000 So last year I talked about, you know, I have 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:31.600 a lot of business in New York. I work in 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.320 New York, I live in DC. I have to be 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.200 there half the time. And right when I walked off 0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.240 the stage, Susan Chapman, wave your hair hands, Susan Chapman, 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.719 she came up to me and said, I have an 0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:45.880 apartment in Brooklyn. It's yours whenever you need it, and 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.080 I have not moved out since I've been there for 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:48.680 a year. 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:51.320 No, I'm kady, but it's beautiful. 0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:52.920 It's beautiful. 0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:54.839 The air. 0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.400 But I did. I took Susan up on that. I 0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:00.800 stated her her beautiful place. 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.080 But that is the kind of thing where she didn't 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.359 wait for me to actually just showed up and said, Okay, 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.440 I heard you say this, I have this, and we 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:11.600 have to be that for each other in ways like Angela, 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.200 I will say, does it the most, but in ways 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.759 that it stretches us and bends us. Now, my moment 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:20.440 of vulnerability is when I have extended myself. I've gotten 0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.320 my feelings hurt a few times, I've been betrayed or 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.960 somebody say something slick to me, and at this age 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.279 and stage in life, I retreat, you know, And it's like, 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:32.520 I'm insular. I'm grateful to be surrounded by women who 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.400 I know, I trust. I'm you know, cocooned in that 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.680 space and I appreciate it, and men who have you know, 0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:42.640 Andrew has definitely been a source of inspiration and listening 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:46.719 ear and personally and professionally, but I have I can 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.160 get to a place where it's like, if I don't 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:49.799 know you, I don't want to talk to you because 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.560 I've had too many times, or somebody I can talk 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:54.439 to you, but I'm not. I might not share something 0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.880 as personal because I've had somebody say something slick and 0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:57.560 it bothers me. 0:50:58.160 --> 0:50:58.279 Uh. 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.520 And I've pushed through those moments. But I know after 0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:03.400 my show was canceled, I retreated. I didn't want to 0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.439 hear from people. There were so many people saying things 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:07.520 about me and speaking about me with certainty, and it 0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.759 had never met me before. I was under attack and 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:13.840 it just put me in such an emotional hole. And 0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:16.759 thankfully I've been surrounded by people that I'm climbing out 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:19.239 of that. So I just want to say, if you've 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.440 been in that space, you're not alone in that space either. 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:23.080 And when I see other people and I can tell 0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:26.080 you in that emotional hole, my vulnerability is to share 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.080 mine and then extend a hand to you to lift 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:29.440 you out of that place, because I know what that 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:29.960 feels like. 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:44.120 We see Bevvy. Thanks to we see Bevvy, Bevy Smith. Hi, 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:48.279 I'm Bevy Smith. I'm from Harlem, USA. Yes you are 0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.399 to say I was from She's from Harlem to TV 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:52.600 show as well, if you're. 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:55.160 Okay, I'm a. 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:59.040 Young actress as well. I'm an angel new But I 0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.719 wanted to say, Kim, what you've done here is so 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:03.880 beautiful and it's very very powerful. 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.719 But I will tell you this, I've been doing a 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.480 lot of hello and hi to everyone and smiling, and 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:16.160 I've not always received it back. So what I want 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:19.400 to say is I want to challenge everyone in this 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.279 room to say hello to every single black woman that 0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.920 you see. Okay, I shouldn't even have to say that, 0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.000 but you should. And the other thing I want to 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.040 challenge us because it's a lot of us in this 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.280 room who know each other. It's a lot of powerful 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.000 and I'm just gonna say, it's a lot of powerful 0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.600 clicks up in here, but not everyone is a part 0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:39.360 of a little. 0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.360 Crew and a click and a club and all that. 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:43.840 I'm very fortunate I know a lot of y'all, so 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:47.080 I could go up in all the spaces. But because 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.920 I was once a nerd girl who was bullied, I'm 0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:55.080 very sensitive when I see people that are shy, that 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:59.480 are a little you know, insular, that are sitting at 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.360 the table bull and it's kind of like along, like 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.200 kind of off to the side tonight. 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.279 When we see any of those people, can we bring 0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:13.240 them into the phone. Yes, that's a good life lesson. 0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.480 We have to do that because there's so many of 0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.560 us who are suffering, and chemists built this right. But 0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:22.400 if we let those little people just sit on the 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.960 sidelines by themselves, they won't come back next year, yeah, because. 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.200 They'll be like, yeah, it was nice. 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.640 But if you don't know the people, if you're not 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:31.879 in the crew, if you're not in the clique, it's 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.719 not really good. That's what happens out a lot of conferences. 0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:39.600 So I want to make sure that folks feel welcome, 0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:42.440 and so that's my little I. 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:45.080 Love that, Bevy. Thank you, thank you, Bevy. 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.200 That's easy. We talked about vulnerability. We're talking about transparency, 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.680 trusting someone to be your help when you need help, 0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:54.919 being able to say that we see. Are you coming 0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:55.400 at Nikki? 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.719 Okay, Nikki, you got Nikki a boss, a real boss 0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:03.160 from my heart in the building, Nikki, tell everybody your 0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:03.919 name where you're from. 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:09.040 My name is Nicky Sparrow. I am from Baltimore, with Baltimore, 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:12.360 not Baltimore for the people. That's not from Baltimore. But 0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:16.080 I live in North Florida, Saint Augustine area. So I'm 0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:19.560 so glad to be here. Miss Kim, you are absolutely jewel. 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:22.560 And as you was talking Tiffany, I was sitting there 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.879 like Tiffany, I are a lot alike in the way 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.640 that I'm very protected with my emotions, but I help 0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.959 everybody naturally. I just want to make sure everybody happy, 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:34.080 eat and everything else. Oh, for goodness, what is tip? 0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:36.440 As I said it, But. 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.320 Last year I came here kind of like not knowing anybody. 0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:41.400 I was gonna be in the corner. 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.200 Melissa and I have become like this first of all 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:52.200 the the yes, thank you, the the CMO of the 0:54:52.239 --> 0:54:55.120 Atlanta Hawks, and then also yes, looks she had to 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.399 take a quick call, but she'll be back. But even 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:04.000 from there, just the call, look at you. I'm the 0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:07.840 Melissa who I have since connected to and when I'm 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:10.279 in Atlanta, making sure that I connect with her. And 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:12.719 then Kim, no, I'm like him if it's anything here, 0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.160 this was going on, this is who and everything else. 0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.239 So I wanted to tell and I said this to Kim. 0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.759 I have never experienced sisterhood like this. I have been 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.680 traditionally the only one that looked like me in the room, 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.960 and that has become some of my protection of not 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:30.360 allowing all of the sensitivit because I got to be strong, 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.520 because I make sure in the room. I got to 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:34.360 make sure Melissa get in the room. I got to 0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:36.920 make sure doctor Kee get in the room, and everybody 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.279 else and making sure that I'm plugging them in. So 0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:42.759 sometimes when you don't see somebody being sensitive, it's not 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.040 that they're not sensitive when inside. It's because first of all, 0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:48.320 you don't know what they have to do even to 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:53.040 be in the room, yes, and to maintain everything that 0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.560 comes along with them when people don't. 0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:56.200 Want you in the room. 0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.239 But I'm getting a little sassy now that I'm over 0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.319 fifty because when people say who are you, I said, 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:01.200 you can google me. 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.239 And her support pages. 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:06.440 That's me because I can tell they're not asking anybody 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.439 else in the room who they are because they feel 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:09.359 like they belong there. 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:11.360 So thank you all for being you. 0:56:11.920 --> 0:56:15.560 Kim, you are absolutely a jewel, and so thank you 0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.800 for being you, your vision and everything else. Thank you 0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:22.000 to all of my iHeart family out here, doctor joy 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.479 Derby and my Native Pot. 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:27.400 And I wouldn't be me if it wasn't like whatever. 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.960 And any of your business people that want to sponsor 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:31.680 the Native Pot let us know. 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:36.400 Thank you, Thank you. We're talking about right as. 0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.880 You were talking about early we had these conversations like 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:42.000 in order for them to be supported and you want 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:46.239 to hear them talk authentically and be honest, it absolutely 0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:49.319 take the sponsorships because you have so many companies say 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:52.040 we want that, but then we don't want that because 0:56:52.080 --> 0:56:54.160 then they don't want to be associated with that. And 0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.360 the part of it is is not we don't want this, 0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.120 we need this in order for us. 0:56:59.040 --> 0:56:59.480 To have this. 0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:01.120 It does. Let's sake sponsorships. 0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:03.520 So if you're interested, I'll be right over there, or 0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:05.520 you can talk to one of them and we can 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.759 make sure that sales starts and we'll make sure that 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:10.680 you're well taken care of. 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:16.280 Thanks, we love you. In the last five minutes that 0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:17.560 we have, we do really. 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.880 Want to open it up for folks who are feeling 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:23.160 that kind of attack we were talking about earlier. It's 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.760 not that you would be a case study, but it 0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:28.680 gives us something to work toward. Even as we leave 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.240 this when we leave Native lampod our safe space, it 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:34.280 doesn't mean that we have to walk out of safety. 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:36.360 It doesn't mean that even after we walk out of 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:39.160 these ballroom doors, that you're on your own. What we 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.720 hope that we model from here and out of the 0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:45.280 good teaching of Jovian and brit We had two preachers 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:49.160 with us today, that we stay in that intention and 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:52.600 that we model that intention throughout this conference and throughout 0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.160 our lives. So if you are feeling attacked or a 0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.680 different type of pressure, we invite you to come forward. 0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:00.360 We will talk to you, and we'll also make sure 0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.680 that our sisters and our dear brothers, the brothers that 0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:04.360 are around here two will also surround you. 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:09.800 I can I offer one brother on the stage is 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:12.680 I was thinking as the women were talking in so 0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:18.160 many powerful testimonies about what keeps me from sharing of vulnerability, 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:22.919 And part of it is is too many experiences where 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:27.640 you've heard from other people who weren't part of the 0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:31.760 assist to you all about the assist, and then some 0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:35.120 because somebody didn't ran and told that, which. 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:38.520 Certainly causes me to shut. 0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:40.680 Down that I don't want to I don't want to 0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:45.600 make myself available in my crisis to ask for help. 0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:47.320 Then you offer it and you do it, and then 0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:51.720 the world knows about what went down when it was 0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:54.120 never their business. And so I think part of it 0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.440 has to be a level of trust, one intention. If 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.320 I help you, saying way I feel about loaning money, 0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:04.200 I'm almost writing it off in my head that I'm 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.400 never getting that money back. But you came to me 0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:09.200 in a moment of need, and I hope to have 0:59:09.400 --> 0:59:11.080 met that need for you. And what. 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:15.520 I ain't give you no money, you cause me problems 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:16.040 in my house. 0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:21.760 So the the I just think if we disassociate ourselves 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:25.800 from outcome. So the thing that I did to help 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.640 you I did it because I love you, I care 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:32.560 for you. I want you to thrive, go forth. And 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.960 what if they go on and go thrive, that's great. 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.160 If they go get a Chanell bag because they felt 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.520 great and they needed to celebrate, then I'm not mad 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:43.160 at that Chanell bag. The season was different when they 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:46.760 bought that bag, and now the season's changed, and that's 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:48.760 not an indictment on their priorities. 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.040 And so I just if you're doing the if when. 0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.960 We go outside of ourselves to extend something to somebody, 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.880 I just feel like Mother Earth wants us to be 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:02.600 giving it as an off, not with an expectation of 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.440 the return, the outcome, the well since I did that, 1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:06.800 she ought to be doing this is that in the 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:09.040 thirty you shouldn't have no bills that are late now 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:12.040 because it's not and all of us. 1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:12.560 Suffer from it. 1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:18.240 But it's a real inhibitor from people showing up as 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:21.960 their full selves and their need and their vulnerability and 1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:25.880 their hurt and their absence of grace because they know 1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:30.320 you may be talking with four tongue because eventually now 1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:33.080 you're shaming me for my need. 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:37.640 I only a gift with the receipt I want to. 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:39.600 We have two and a half minutes remaining, and I 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:42.880 want us to close out with calls to action. 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.480 So Andrew, why don't you start us off? 1:00:45.640 --> 1:00:50.000 Release judgment? Release the judgment. It ain't got nothing to 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:53.320 do with you, nothing to do with you. Those hateful 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:55.720 comments that show up in the inbox. You don't know 1:00:55.880 --> 1:00:57.959 me well enough to hate me like that. Now, maybe 1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:01.640 something about my life has pricked you, and so you're 1:01:01.720 --> 1:01:03.800 getting your rocks off on me because you can't tell 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:05.920 the person who you need to be telling. So just 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:09.320 let the judgment go. Doesn't advantage you. 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:10.840 I love that. 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:15.120 I'm gonna follow up on what Lovey said, Let's make 1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:17.760 black women bestsellers. So my call to action is go 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:21.360 by doctor Sharon Malone's book Please Girl and Women. And 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:24.000 she's talking about stuff that we all experience in here. 1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:26.960 I'm about ten degrees hotter than everybody else. I don't know, 1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:27.720 that's what I feel like. 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:29.920 I'm twenty four, not at twelve. 1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:34.200 I have early early perimental Paul, Okay, got it is 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:34.720 that a thing? 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:36.959 Doctor Malone? She said? 1:01:37.000 --> 1:01:38.680 No, Well, can I say? 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:42.280 I was in DC and doctor Sharon Malone walked up 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:44.040 to me and she says, you know you're Perimantal Pauls, 1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:45.880 A'm like, what hell? 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:49.240 And I was she was looking out, She was just looking. 1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:55.880 My call to action is about these attacks that we're witnessing. 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:01.800 Marilyn Moseby. Please get familiar with her name. If you're not, 1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:06.040 please sign the petition. If you haven't, we are requesting 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:10.360 a presidential pardon for Marilyn Moseby. I'm telling you all, 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:12.440 she is not the only one. I can give you 1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:15.800 a list of black women prosecutors, a list of black 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:19.040 elected officials who have been targeted. Please get familiar with 1:02:19.160 --> 1:02:23.880 that case. My last call to action is to support 1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:26.440 what Bevy stated. I hear you, Sis, I love you. 1:02:26.880 --> 1:02:28.840 I'm gonna make sure I work overtime. This is a 1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:31.160 reunion for me, so I am so excited to see 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:33.800 my friends, but it would be so much better and 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:37.240 richer if my friend circle grew in this room, in 1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:39.400 at this conference, and so can. We will lift you 1:02:39.520 --> 1:02:41.480 up and honor your spirit in that way, making sure 1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:44.120 we're bringing everyone in. And as we always say on 1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:46.760 this podcast, if y'all are a wake back there, we're 1:02:46.800 --> 1:02:48.200 on a music y'all. 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:52.880 Always say on this podcast, welcome y'all. How many days 1:02:52.920 --> 1:02:53.720 for that election. 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:56.200 Morning. 1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:59.120 Thank you for joining the Natives intention of what the 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:02.760 info and on little latest regulum mccross connected to the 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:06.280 statements that you leave on our socials. Thank you sincerely 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:09.080 for the patients reason for your choice is cleared, so 1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:12.680 grateful it took to execute roads. Thank you for serve, 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:14.200 defend and protect the truth. 1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:16.120 Even in peace. 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