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Speaker 2: Please join us up here on the stage Native Lamp Pod.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Welcome home to the Native Landing on the podcast based

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Speaker 4: that's a for greatness, sixty minutes or so, hit not

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Speaker 4: too long for the grape shit, high level combo politics

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Speaker 4: in a way that you could taste it then digest it.

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Speaker 4: Politics touches you even if you don't touch it. So

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Speaker 4: get invested across the t's and doctor ods kill them

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Speaker 4: the brand that you can trust you.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home. You're so happy here.

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Speaker 5: For those of you who Jay I remember last year,

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Speaker 5: Tip and I made a breaking news announcement that we

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Speaker 5: were not authorized to break it that time, but it

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Speaker 5: was about this.

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Speaker 2: Very podcast, Native Lamppod.

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Speaker 5: So to those of you, you who were at the

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Speaker 5: beginning of the home, before the home even started, we say.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home, Welcome you. So we're going to be here,

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Speaker 2: and before we even jump into the.

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Speaker 5: Substance of the podcast, let's roll that clip. Let's roll

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Speaker 5: that clip over there. I think y'all wrote that clip.

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Speaker 6: We need to hear blond's beach blonde that's built body blond,

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Speaker 6: bad built pleach blonde, bad built bush bodyach blonde, bad

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Speaker 6: built blond that built pleach blond, bad built bush bottom.

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Speaker 7: I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, that's where we're up against these days.

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Speaker 1: We're up against a whole lot of beach blonde, bad built.

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Speaker 1: About to say, but we want to replace one of

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Speaker 1: those B words, but we can't stop in ourselves. Apologies.

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Speaker 8: Can you please warn the people that they are on TV?

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Speaker 2: And yes, it sounds like you're warning them now.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Well, Angela was supposed to give y'all a legal

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Speaker 9: note that if you're in this room, you've agreed to

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Speaker 9: be on TV. And so if you find yourself in

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Speaker 9: our YouTube release of the show on Thursday evening or

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Speaker 9: maybe Friday morning, please do not sue.

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Speaker 7: Kim.

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Speaker 8: Your presence is your consent, and we thank you in

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Speaker 8: advance for yes.

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Speaker 2: And even more so for those of you who engage.

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Speaker 5: This is a town hall takeover as Brandon by our

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Speaker 5: good friend Kim Blackwell. Thank you, sister for having us

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Speaker 5: at this incredible conference. If you ask a question this

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Speaker 5: Mike is right here in the center.

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Speaker 2: Of the room. You will state your name and where

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Speaker 2: you're from, and you are.

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Speaker 5: Also authorizing us to record you on audio and video,

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Speaker 5: so we are very grateful for that.

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Speaker 1: Can I say real quick, Yeah, I want to say

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Speaker 1: welcome home to the people in the audience here live

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Speaker 1: with us, but also welcome home to all y'all who

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Speaker 1: are listening who are not here at this conference.

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Speaker 7: Come home, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are going to accelerate her in Miami. It

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Speaker 2: is our first live.

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Speaker 5: Show of this election season. We're going to be campaigning

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Speaker 5: on our own because campaigns right now a little dry.

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Speaker 5: So on that what we really wanted to talk about today.

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Speaker 5: We normally spend a lot of time in politics. What

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Speaker 5: we believe is that politics are everywhere, and we talk

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Speaker 5: about that on every single show. And one of the

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Speaker 5: things that has been very present, especially for people in

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Speaker 5: this room, are the attacks on DEI.

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Speaker 2: We know that there are up to eighty.

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Speaker 5: Bills and roughly twenty eight states that are attacking diversity,

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Speaker 5: equity and inclusion, and since January fourteen of those bills

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Speaker 5: have been signed into law. We know that there are

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Speaker 5: out of all the fortune one thousand, there is one

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Speaker 5: Fortune one thousand CEO and she will be honored at

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Speaker 5: this conference. Her name is Tashanda Decade for those of

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Speaker 5: you who all do not know, and she stands alone

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Speaker 5: right now, there's only one black woman CEO. Two percent

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Speaker 5: of those seats were filled after the reckoning with George

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Speaker 2: Y'all don't matter that much. I ain't trying to really

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Speaker 5: We know for black women when if and how we

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Speaker 5: will hear from Arian Simone about what she's experiencing and

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Speaker 5: That's kind of how I wanted to to put this

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Speaker 5: We know that we also are under tremendous attack, even

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Speaker 5: in the legal field. We have spent a lot of

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Speaker 5: time on our podcast recently talking about our dear sister

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Speaker 5: and friend, Marilyn Moseby. I'll be leaving you all tomorrow

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Speaker 5: morning to go to her sentencing in Greenbelt, Maryland.

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Speaker 2: We are fighting for her every day and the reason

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Speaker 2: for that, thank you. The reason for that is because

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Speaker 2: Marilyn is not the only one.

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Speaker 5: I've talked about it on the podcast often. Andrew, who's

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Speaker 5: sitting next to us, could have been in that number.

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Speaker 5: Andrew was acquitted, he had to pay a hefty legal

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Speaker 5: it's not just the two of them. There was Aaron

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Speaker 5: Mesayala and Monique Wordell and all of these black women prosecutors,

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Speaker 5: Kim Gardner, Rachel Rollins. We are under attack on every side.

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Speaker 5: And part of what we know are call to action

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Speaker 5: is when we come here every year that Kim wants

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Speaker 5: us to sure is that we are figuring out how

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Speaker 5: we support each other so that when the attacks come TIF.

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Speaker 5: We talked about your attacks last year. When the attacks come,

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Speaker 5: we are ready to mount a ready defense and that

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Speaker 1: Thank you for setting it up that way, Angela, and

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Speaker 1: I know we don't have to tell y'all in the

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Speaker 1: room the state of DEI, but it truly does cast

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Speaker 1: a dark shadow of influence over so many sectors. And

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Speaker 1: just to add to make sure you all understand that

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Speaker 1: the center of this conversation, it is a conversation with us.

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Speaker 1: But we're here live because we wanted to be a

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Speaker 7: We want to talk with you all today.

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Speaker 1: And as we give calls to action to our audience

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Speaker 1: the calls to actions you all have. I want to

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Speaker 1: There are proactive attacks happening. Last year, thirteen attorneys general

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Speaker 1: sent letters to private sector companies asking them to re

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Speaker 1: what I would call a threat. It's not a request,

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Speaker 1: responding to this. So whatever happens in politics, it definitely

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Speaker 1: impacts the private sector, and it should not be incumbent

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Speaker 1: upon the private sector to play a political role in

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Speaker 1: upholding are just our guaranteed rights. But increasingly so, that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening. And I know a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: say thank you to everybody in this room and everybody

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Speaker 1: who's at home, who has stood up for someone who

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Speaker 7: Themselves over and over and over, because that's what it takes.

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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of fear driven responses now and

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Speaker 1: we have to get ahead of that as well. So

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Speaker 1: thank you all for being here and enjoying the conversation.

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Speaker 1: There's a microphone right there, so as y'all have thoughts, comments, questions, please.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'll just add and I just want to

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Speaker 9: thank you all for creating this space. I was blown

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Speaker 9: who the hell is carrying a little while y'all are here?

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Speaker 9: As I think about the roles that you play every

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Speaker 9: it's ensuring payroll works out this month. If it's not that,

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Speaker 9: and taking care of all the things that require your

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Speaker 8: Nobody else knows how to do it.

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Speaker 9: And so in that spirit, I just want to say

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Speaker 9: thank you, thank you for the service, and also thank

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Speaker 9: you for being. What is any irrational request of any

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Speaker 9: And when that doesn't come through quite the way that

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Speaker 8: And then the only other thing I.

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Speaker 8: In that moment.

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Speaker 9: I heard it preached one time, and I'll stop that

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Speaker 9: because we may be lions, we may be folks who

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Speaker 8: Who we ride with to do the same.

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Speaker 9: And guess what, a lot of those people have been

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Speaker 9: camouflaging as lions and lionesses.

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Speaker 8: And they are hyaenas.

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Speaker 9: And you can't expect a hyaena to perform like a

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Speaker 9: the way that they perform, they're just doing what they

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Speaker 9: I think it goes a long way.

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Speaker 8: We notice it, and the people who you stand in

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Speaker 2: So I think the lesson in that is in your exhaustion. One,

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Speaker 9: When I say hyenas, I don't say it as a

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Speaker 9: And I guess the requests they asked would be that

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Speaker 5: Like I wonder if they just deep thought what Andrew

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Speaker 7: That in my day to day.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to make the adjustment because we're on

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Speaker 7: I love that question.

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Speaker 7: Then she has an ability in leadership. When she asks,

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Speaker 1: And even asking asking hyenas to be a lion, they

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, I love you. But I'm not about to

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say something controversial and people might stage walk out,

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Speaker 5: They really got us beat on strategy. Why do we

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Speaker 2: And they don't need to know our business.

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Speaker 5: For example, America First Legal that was stood up by

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Speaker 5: But like they ge to say that and beat the patriots,

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Speaker 7: Do they have us beat on strategy or do they

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Speaker 7: So I hear people in the audience saying both say

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Speaker 5: They can also fund their strategies. Like I'm right, we're brilliant.

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Speaker 5: We're brilliant with less.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes black folks, it's like I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 7: I got two kids in school and cousin JJ and

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, I gotta care about climate

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Speaker 7: The school board, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think even when we talk about Republicans have

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Speaker 8: And then it is I think.

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Speaker 9: White people's power in this country, in this world has

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Speaker 9: But what is insatiable about them is their addiction to power,

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Speaker 9: may not own it all.

443
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 8: Every step we take may be risking at all. You

444
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 8: don't tend to want to commit suicide.

445
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 9: You want to exist, Your body wants to exist, You

446
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 9: want to thrive one day, and all of that can

447
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 9: be upended by us making just one false move. And

448
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 9: when I say false move, it could be the right move.

449
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 9: It could be the right move. But the person, the purveyor,

450
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 9: the one who has the ability to give it and

451
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 9: take it, has determined that it's the wrong move.

452
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 8: And then that's it.

453
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 9: And so I don't think we're less curious. I think

454
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Speaker 9: we have less capacity for creativity because of the conditions

455
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Speaker 9: in which we exist.

456
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Speaker 7: I was saying they were less curious, not us. We

457
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 7: are curious. They are.

458
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Speaker 9: I don't know that they're less curious or that it matters.

459
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 9: I think what they are is addicted to power, and

460
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 9: that addiction allows them to create.

461
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 8: All the solutions.

462
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 9: The second, third, fourth tertiary option that don't work. You know,

463
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 9: they can do it because there's nobody coming up right

464
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 9: behind them that they they nearby fear losing their power

465
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 9: to Even the rise of the majority of black and

466
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 9: brown people doesn't scare them by itself, because the world

467
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 9: is all always been run by a smaller group of

468
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 9: the bourgeoisie that haves, and it's only about ten percent

469
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 9: of them.

470
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 8: The rest of us just on the board. The rest

471
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 8: of us are just pieces on the board that can

472
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 8: be moved.

473
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 5: Okay, speaking of movie, I'm moving, where'd y'all take it go?

474
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: She's like, I'm sitting down, I ain't got time for go.

475
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go to Joe.

476
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Speaker 1: But I just want to remind y'all, Jule's question was

477
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: not about white people's powers, about how to use ours.

478
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Joe, Well, good evening.

479
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 10: I'm Joe take Edie, strategist, investor and founder of hashtag

480
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 10: Win with black women. I wanted to and I totally

481
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 10: agree with Joel in terms of we have to be

482
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Speaker 10: careful about pre empting the attacks. I do also want

483
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 10: to talk about this notion of power because in these

484
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 10: attacks that we are facing, particularly as black women, and

485
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Speaker 10: I believe we were in a conversation. I think Britt

486
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 10: is going to talk in a minute. But what we

487
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 10: see over and over again, whether or not it is

488
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 10: our sisters injustice, our sisters in corporate wherever, it is

489
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 10: the same strategy. And it is about the allure, the control,

490
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 10: and it's all about power and the fear connected to

491
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 10: that desire for power leads to a very ambitious, very

492
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 10: well funded strategy to attack and we have to be

493
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 10: very careful. I call it the three d's. First, they

494
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 10: will work to discredit, largely a black woman. That will

495
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 10: be a discredit a smear campaign. Second, a detachment, and

496
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 10: that is the most dangerous aspect of the strategy is

497
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 10: when we are detached from our root and our base.

498
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Speaker 10: Because once you are isolated, and you're talking about the

499
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 10: lions and the hyenas, but anytime you are in the wild,

500
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 10: an animal that is isolated is most easily attacked. And

501
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 10: so once you are detached from your people and your roots.

502
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 10: Even if you are detached from the roots of where

503
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 10: you know you come from and your strength, if you

504
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 10: are mentally detached, then they can destroy you. And so

505
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 10: we have to be very careful that we cannot afford

506
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 10: to let not any one of us be attacked, because

507
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 10: an attack on one of us is attack on all

508
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 10: of us, and it is an attack on us as

509
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Speaker 10: a whole, as a people. And so that is why

510
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 10: we always have the truth, speak truth to power, even

511
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 10: if it's uncomfortable, even if it's not necessarily the most

512
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 10: popular thing to do, because that is how we will

513
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Speaker 10: remain resilient, and that is how we have to remain

514
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Speaker 10: as a people.

515
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Speaker 7: Thank you, Joe, Joe, Thank you Joe.

516
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Speaker 9: You do realize you're being attacked in this way because

517
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 9: you are being so successful in so many others. The

518
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 9: shot has to be fired over the bow so that

519
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 9: anybody who's looking at you, who's inspired by you, who

520
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 9: thinks they can come behind you and have the temerity

521
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 9: to do the same thing that they see out loud

522
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 9: in public, for everybody to know this that if you

523
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 9: come for that crown, this is how we level you.

524
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 9: Some people blame Fani for everything that's happened in Georgia

525
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 9: and the derailing of that case, and I submit, and

526
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 9: I said it on our pod. It doesn't matter what

527
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 9: she did or did not do. This will have always

528
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 9: been the strategy. If it wasn't true, they would make

529
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 9: it up. What they make up, they then go further

530
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 9: to fabricate and to continue to perpetuate, and they they

531
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 9: have no shame about lying left right, backwards, upside down.

532
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 9: But it's our lives, our credibility, our community. And then

533
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 9: too often sometimes we're the first ones to say, now

534
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 9: you should have known better, and then we're gonna be

535
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 9: loud about you should have known. But you should have

536
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 9: known better is inside the house conversation. It's not for everybody.

537
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, we said about FAM. You ain't talking about FAM.

538
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 8: You to y'all, you don't care about it.

539
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: You ain't you go there.

540
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 8: You ain't no rally, you.

541
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Speaker 9: Don't get no money, you don't give anything, you don't

542
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 9: pay no rent. There's no way you are occupying space.

543
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 9: So some of our conversations have to be internal. But

544
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 9: I just have to say, there's a poem that that

545
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 9: one of those lines is it's when things seem worse

546
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 9: that you mustn't quit.

547
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 8: That's how you know. You getting close to the line,

548
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 8: that's how you That's how you know they scared. That's

549
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 8: how you know that they are.

550
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 9: They are right for their existence, and the ones who

551
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 9: are in alignment with them, are the ones who have

552
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 9: closest proximity to them. That's how we lose white women voters.

553
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 9: They're getting killed over here. Yeah, but because they're married

554
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 9: to a white man and they have a white child

555
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 9: who's maybe a son, their proximity keeps them connected to

556
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 9: this system that doesn't love them, doesn't respect them, does

557
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 9: nothing for them. Into the passage of those men in

558
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 9: their lives, They're back to where they were at the beginning.

559
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 8: Shame.

560
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 5: And I think, Brittany, Yes, where's britt britt The bishop

561
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 5: got a word?

562
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: Bishop, We had a word.

563
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Speaker 7: I mean I had, I had a question you want

564
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 7: me to.

565
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: I do think though, to first of all, Jule, last

566
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: week I was going through the Atlanta Airport and who's

567
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: face that I see on the ad yours? So I

568
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: just want to honor the work that you are doing

569
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: and the impact that you are making on us, our people,

570
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: our communities, because even amidst all of the attacks, baby,

571
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: you are shining, and we love to see it because

572
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: we all shine with you when you shine. The other

573
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: thing I think to this point about attacking black women

574
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: is that in every era of and Angela, I want

575
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: you to know. I just finished my video about our

576
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: sister Maryland. So I talked about this in the video

577
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: and I'm about to post it. But what we know

578
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: throughout history is that in every single era of progress

579
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: for marginalized people, there is a promised backlash. It is swift,

580
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: it is thorough, and it is precise. That pattern will

581
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: always repeat itself. Right, Jim Crowd reconstruction, right, Trump was

582
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: the answer to Obama, These things consistently happen. So after

583
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen through twenty twenty, now we're experiencing that intense backlash.

584
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: And the goal is always to make the status quo permanent, right,

585
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: that the folks who hold power are able to hold

586
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: it forever, and anybody who would dare try to snatch

587
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: any morsel of it from their hands be damned. So

588
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: if we know that that's true, and we know the

589
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: backlashes promise, and we know that that's their blueprint, the

590
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: good news is that we also know our ancestral blueprints.

591
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 7: We know our history's blueprints.

592
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: We know what we've written, we know the stories that

593
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: we've shared with each other, we know the lore and

594
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: the legacy that we are able to push through our

595
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: not just and to Joe take 's point, not just

596
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: through our written words and our formal leadership, but through

597
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: our connectivity, through our community, through those ancestral, rooted practices

598
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: that we've been doing in that white supremacy separated us

599
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: from right. The function of whites premicy really is to

600
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: separate us from our own knowing. And going back to

601
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: our own knowing helps us sustain because the truth of

602
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: the matter is they come after black women because they

603
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: knows that nobody else can be taken down quite as

604
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: swiftly as a black woman. They know that we're not defended.

605
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: They know that we're not protected. Malcolm X already told

606
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: us that, right. So if we get so impenetrable, if

607
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: we get together so tight and link our arms so

608
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: well that nobody and nothing can come in between us,

609
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: that we are the lions that they are afraid of,

610
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: permanently and perpetually, they can't come for us because they'll

611
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: know they can't win.

612
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 7: And that's the work we have to do.

613
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Speaker 1: That's the purpose of accelerate her right, so that we're

614
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: actually building those connections intergenerationally, and we're not just saying

615
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: you got it, good luck, cist, but actually saying.

616
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 7: No, I'm linking arms so that we can come along together.

617
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: Come out, preacher. Thank you Brittany Pagnet cutting down the

618
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: doors of the church. Now, oh geez gets to it

619
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Speaker 2: the question again.

620
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: But speaking of my question and speaking of us moving

621
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: along together, to move up political for us. Second, even

622
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: though the personal is political for black women, shout out

623
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: to the kambah Hea River Collective. There is an understanding

624
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: that I think we all have in this moment ahead

625
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: of this presidential election where not only is the top

626
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: of the ticket important, abortion rights are on the ballot,

627
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: voting rights are on the ballot, the futures for our

628
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: young people are on the ballot, guns are on the ballot,

629
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Climate change, all of that stuff is on the ballot,

630
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: up and down.

631
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: So we know how important this election is.

632
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: And we know that we've seen some of the polling

633
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: that if the election we're done today, that there are

634
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: a number of black people who said they will sit out.

635
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: The good news is the election is not happening today,

636
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and we still got time to engage with our people,

637
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: not con to send our people into voting, but to listen,

638
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: to engage, to understand, and to meet folks where they are,

639
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: to invite all of us into a different way of

640
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: being to move forward.

641
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: So this is my question. In the era that we

642
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: have right now, we know that black votes are.

643
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: Consistently taken for granted, and if we are going to

644
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: get our things, not only on the agenda, but the

645
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: policies that truly benefit us past consistently that we have

646
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: to show up, like all of these other groups and

647
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: all of these other issues, with the level of force

648
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: and power and fully operating that power. And we also

649
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: know what will happen to us and the rest of

650
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: the world if body loses.

651
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 7: So how are you all?

652
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this, but I would love for

653
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: the room and your listeners to hear how you all

654
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: are threading that needle and having those loving, respectful conversations

655
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: with our family members, with our cousins, with the folks

656
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 1: we sit next to on the plane wherever, about how

657
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: to thread that needle to say, yes, we need to

658
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: stand in our full power, and we need to make

659
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: sure that we engage that radical pragmatism that black people

660
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: use all the time to set the conditions for our fight.

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Speaker 7: Because I'd rather fight Biden than fight Trump. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Feedback on this tiff.

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Speaker 1: Under Hey, I'll you know what I always talk about

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Thank you for that, Brittany Pacnet Cunningham.

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Speaker 1: For the folks who are listening and can't see you

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. So I think one of the wonderful things

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Speaker 1: about our podcast is we feel avoid and so something

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Speaker 1: that I take very seriously, and like you said, britt

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Speaker 1: it is professional. It's my professional grooming, but also my

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Speaker 1: personal commitment, and that is disrupting the narrative that the

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Speaker 1: white run mainstream media puts out there. And so something

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Speaker 1: we've talked about was this narrative that you know, all

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Speaker 1: the black folks, but particularly black men, are running to

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Speaker 1: vote for Trump. Yes, that is, there are people out

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Speaker 1: there who are considering voting for him. But I looked

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Speaker 1: at this in the media and I thought I would

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Speaker 1: no sooner lay the failure of this democracy at the

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Speaker 1: feet of black men. And you ain't said lock about

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Speaker 1: the white conservative folks across every socioeconomic demographic. And you

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Speaker 1: want to keep promoting this narrative and pushing that out

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Speaker 1: there and pushing that out there, and the disrespect it

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Speaker 1: is when black men ninety eight percent of whom vote Democrat,

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Speaker 1: and of course black women do overwhelmingly, so They also

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Speaker 1: will plug people who don't have a background in politics,

685
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Speaker 1: are not well versed, not well formed. But you put

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Speaker 1: this person on to be the voice of what you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about in serious issues for us, and

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Speaker 1: they only do that in the black community. Tell me

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Speaker 1: when the last time was that you heard Joe Rogan

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Speaker 1: on CNN talking about policy. Tell me when they ask

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Speaker 1: Amy Schumer's opinion on what's happening in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: But you have no problem putting a comedian on, an actor,

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Speaker 1: on a rapper on to talk about serious issues. I

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Speaker 1: think we have to demand more respect for ourselves and

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Speaker 1: support independent media, and for those of who still work

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Speaker 1: in media, who are in decision making positions in media,

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Speaker 1: let your voices, let our voices be heard. It should

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Speaker 1: not have to be it's okay for us to speak

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Speaker 1: a truth only after white folks say it. Only after

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Speaker 1: white folks make it acceptable to drop a cultural reference

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Speaker 1: or hip hop music on and then the rest of

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Speaker 1: the black folks can do it, and now it's okay.

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Speaker 7: That erodes our trust in media.

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Speaker 1: And when we saw that happen in the twenty sixteen election,

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Speaker 1: there was an overwhelming amount of people who started getting

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Speaker 1: their news from social media, and we later found out

707
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Speaker 1: this was the Internet Russia agency pumping false narrative because

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Speaker 1: they spent two seconds here and said, oh, I know

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Speaker 1: the way to mess up the election. They treat black

710
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Speaker 1: folks really messed up over there, So let's make that

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Speaker 1: our narrative.

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Speaker 7: So that's my personal commitment.

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Speaker 1: Every time we talk about something, I'm constantly giving pushback

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Speaker 1: on what the media says.

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Speaker 7: So thank you for that question.

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Speaker 5: I think this is a good time for us to

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Speaker 5: open up really into solutions. One thing I know that

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Speaker 5: we all are clear about is the challenges that we're

719
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Speaker 5: up against. But this is a very unique, unique space

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Speaker 5: for us every year to come together, even as Jovian

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Speaker 5: challenged us this morning around stating our intentions, being clear

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Speaker 5: about what we want and making sure we're creating this space,

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Speaker 5: it's a safe space here.

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Speaker 2: Native lampod too, is a safe space.

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Speaker 5: We say welcome home because we want people to feel

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Speaker 5: like this is a safe space to discuss your issues,

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Speaker 5: to raise your questions. But I think even beyond that,

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Speaker 5: beyond this room, beyond this particular session in time with

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Speaker 5: this live podcast, we want you all to feel like

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Speaker 5: this convening is a safe space so there's something you

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Speaker 5: need from this room. If you're under attack right now

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Speaker 5: and you haven't said it out loud, you've been afraid

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Speaker 5: to say it out loud.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 5: If you are like I don't want to be under attack,

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Speaker 5: how can I prevent That's what jul is saying. Really,

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Speaker 5: I don't want that attack because my mission in life

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Speaker 5: is not to be fighting them. It is to be

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Speaker 5: providing a pathway for us. What is the safest way

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Speaker 5: that we can ensure that? Those are the kinds of

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Speaker 5: things now, with the time we have remaining that I

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Speaker 5: want to make sure you all are sharing with us.

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Speaker 5: I'm calling on them for help because, as I said,

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Speaker 5: I've learned a remarkable lesson in this season in life.

745
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Speaker 5: I think I know a lot of the answers I've learned.

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Speaker 5: I don't have them all, and I'm good with that.

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Speaker 5: You know, ye, I see your hand. I would love

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Speaker 5: for you to make your way to this microphone because

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Speaker 5: that is what we have, so you'll be on camera.

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Speaker 5: A reminder that you stepping up here means you're on

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Speaker 5: camera and you have a consentant, is that Jessica?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, Miss Jessica.

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Speaker 2: Where you're from? For the people who can't see you

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Speaker 2: on the podcast listening.

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, my name is Jessica Nabango, and I love

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Speaker 1: that you brought up the idea of solutions and that's

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Speaker 1: just what I want to speak to because for me

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Speaker 1: in this era, in the last basically since twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: for me, I've been talking to friends about the blacklash

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Speaker 1: and specifically financially because for a lot of us who

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Speaker 1: are creators or you know.

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Speaker 2: Work as gig workers.

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Speaker 1: Essentially where gig workers looking for speaking engagements and brand

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Speaker 1: deals and whatnot, it has it hasn't dried up completely

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Speaker 1: hopefully like luckily for me, it's not completely dry, but

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Speaker 1: we've definitely seen it scale back.

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Speaker 2: And so one thing we need to discuss I feel like.

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Speaker 1: More of and I'm going to work with Kim for

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Speaker 1: next year for this, and I love the announcement of

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Speaker 1: the venture fund is I think we have to discuss

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Speaker 1: finances more but integrated, right so we know, like there's

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Speaker 1: Tiffany the Budget Nesto, who's amazing, we know about the

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Speaker 1: podcast that exists, but I think we need more integration.

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Speaker 1: I think that black people generally don't like to talk

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Speaker 1: about money. They definitely don't want to talk about debt.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to talk about all of these things.

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Speaker 8: But I think it's enough of it.

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Speaker 2: You so what.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly say it's not enough of it, But it's like,

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Speaker 1: how do we take what we have and grow it

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Speaker 1: without having to wait for more income?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: So I'm someone I've been investing in the stock market

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Speaker 1: for a long time and I have like a variety investments,

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Speaker 1: whether it's art, it's stock, it's real estate, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to have more open conversation about

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Speaker 1: that in a very practical manner, but also integrated into

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Speaker 1: social justice conversation because the only way we're going to

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Speaker 1: survive is if we can take care of ourselves. And

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Speaker 1: in order to take care of ourselves, we have to

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Speaker 1: be able to have the money we had, no matter

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Speaker 1: how little or how much, we have to be able

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Speaker 1: to take that money and grow it. Like I love

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Speaker 1: the brands that are hearing, there's so many things that

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Speaker 1: we can purchase, and I'm here to buy.

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Speaker 2: All of the things.

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Speaker 1: But I also want to know if I see you

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Speaker 1: with a Chanel bag, I know you better have investments

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Speaker 1: ten times that and if you don't, that's a conversation

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Speaker 1: that we need to be having.

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Speaker 7: You heard some feelings.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's on the podcast again as a reminder it is

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Speaker 5: being recorded, but it is a family conversation.

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Speaker 2: I love this so much, Jessica, in part because you were.

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Speaker 5: Like, I have investments, and you listed the variety of

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Speaker 5: investments for so many people who are serving as influencers

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Speaker 5: and even are on shows.

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Speaker 2: That is not the case.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you. I hope I'll get in trouble

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Speaker 5: with our with our girl thread, but we have some

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Speaker 5: of the folks in here who are on it. We

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Speaker 5: had to have a conversation about tax lawyers.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking. I was having lunch and talking

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Speaker 2: to people about tax strategy.

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Speaker 1: We had to have a conversation about tax lawyers because

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Speaker 1: of tax leans and tax debt and not and not

818
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Speaker 1: knowing that once you left your job, now you're responsible

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Speaker 1: for paying quarterly taxes.

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Speaker 2: It feels really basic to people who grow up in business.

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Speaker 2: It was not basic for some of us, or for

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Speaker 2: some of us.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna put my daddy business others some of us

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Speaker 5: who had dads who did businesses and still just collected

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Speaker 5: the tax debt.

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Speaker 2: You understand.

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Speaker 5: Sorry daddy but like this is the thing. We have

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Speaker 5: to have these conversations. I'm gonna come find you because

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna come learn.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, forty four.

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Speaker 5: And don't know enough about this still out here reckless okay,

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Speaker 5: So thank you.

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Speaker 7: I'm twenty four and don't know enough about it. So

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Speaker 7: thank you.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Tim, It's so fun being your mentor.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you, my sister. I would I'll just say,

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Speaker 7: this isn't a solution. This is a problem.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of us, Jessica to talk about public speaking,

839
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Speaker 1: and a lot of us our income is clunky, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you may get a big load of money from

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Speaker 1: January to March. And I know, for me, i'm you know,

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Speaker 1: hood rich sometimes and it's not that I'm balling. I

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00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: don't own a Chanel bag, I'll tell you, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not giving the government my money because I'm gonna hold

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Speaker 1: on to this money because I have to. I used

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Speaker 1: to wait till the last minute to pay bills because

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Speaker 1: I never knew when the ground was gonna drop from

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Speaker 1: under me, and I need that money to eat. Twenty

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Speaker 1: years later, I still have that mentality and that PTSD.

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Speaker 1: Growing up poor and black in this country is traumatic.

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Speaker 1: You carry it with you for a long time. And

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Speaker 1: so now if I get a big pot, if I

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Speaker 1: get six figures of income, I'm not giving that half

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Speaker 1: to the government. I'm waiting until I get the next

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Speaker 1: big income to put half of that money away because

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous about when I'm going to get another check.

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Speaker 1: So that's my reality. I think that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: the reality for a lot of people out there. So

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Speaker 1: of all the people who are in this room from

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Speaker 1: financial institutions, please come find me or I will come

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Speaker 1: find you.

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Speaker 9: That that that fear, and I like it makes sense

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Speaker 9: for all of us. But it's not just individual it's

864
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Speaker 9: because the system is acting to protect itself. The reason

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Speaker 9: why they don't worry the same way we worry is

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Speaker 9: because they know about all of those safety nets that

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Speaker 9: exist for them, and those same safety nets don't exist

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Speaker 9: for us, the same way you misuse some funds from

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Speaker 9: that recovery. I saw black folks being led through the

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Speaker 9: federal courthouse in my area, Like, you know, there.

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Speaker 8: Was a I ain't gonna be staff that that'd be uh.

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Speaker 9: I was gonna say, like it was a fish fry,

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Speaker 9: but it was my and what I was going to

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Speaker 9: say about that was horribly stereotypical.

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Speaker 8: But I love fish, and I'll throw a fish try anyway.

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Speaker 9: But the but the point, the point is is that

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Speaker 9: they were marching us through there like it was the

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Speaker 9: marching one hundred a Florida and m University right on.

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Speaker 9: These little puny nothing nothing, nothing, but they get the education.

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Speaker 9: They fall into the loop, They fall into the whole first,

881
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 9: and then they create a salve so that they never

882
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 9: have to fall into it again.

883
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 8: But for us, this no south. We were a distraction

884
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 8: in the first place.

885
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: I see Lovey walk up.

886
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: And since we're and since we're in our time where

887
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 5: we're we're getting some solutions, we're gonna get one.

888
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: I know she got a good one.

889
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: This sister, if you don't know, is in New York

890
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: Times best selling author four times, yea four times. And

891
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: Lovey is gonna be my one sister friend today. Who's

892
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: gonna say her name and where she's from? Because the

893
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: rest of y'all ain't following no directions. What's up with that, y'all?

894
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: Like you know who I am? Look me up me ba,

895
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: go ahead.

896
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 12: So I'm loving Jay Jones and I'm an author, speaker

897
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 12: and book advisor.

898
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: I am from Chicago by way of Nigeria.

899
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 12: And one of the things that I think is a

900
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 12: solution to a lot of our problems as a community

901
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 12: is vulnerability. Whether it is our community building, whether it's

902
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 12: in finance, whether it's in books.

903
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: It's about our inability to be siloed.

904
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 12: One allow ourselves to be soilo because I think officially

905
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 12: becomes a choice that we choose over and over again.

906
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: Right, we know the ways of systems, we know the

907
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: games that are being played.

908
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 12: We see the playbook, and yet we're saying, how am

909
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 12: I surprised that this game is being played? So I

910
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 12: think one of the things that we need is to

911
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 12: just start telling the truth, even when it scares us,

912
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 12: and I mean the truth of I feel lost, I'm drowning,

913
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 12: I'm overwhelmed, i am broke.

914
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: My company is crumbling.

915
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 12: Mine did last year shout out, and what saved me

916
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 12: was vulnerability to my TPG sisters, to my mentors, and

917
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 12: I was like, listen, I am drowning.

918
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm about to be bankrupt in three months, I'm.

919
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 12: Firing my whole team. And as it's happening, them holding

920
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 12: me is what saved my life. Them giving me advice, but.

921
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: It started with me saying I need help.

922
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 3: Now.

923
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 12: What's happened is it's been beaten out of us, it's

924
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 12: been traumatized out of us. We've been told not to

925
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 12: trust each other, and then we walk around walking alone

926
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 12: when none of this.

927
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: Was ever supposed to be alone.

928
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 12: And I've had the privilege of having access to some

929
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 12: rooms where I'm like, let me really figure out what's

930
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 12: happening here so I can tell my people what's going on.

931
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 12: So one day last year, I ended up in a

932
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Speaker 12: room where it was an invite only room for best

933
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 12: selling authors. To be in the room, you had to

934
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 12: either have been a New York Times bestseller or have

935
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 12: sold two hundred and fifty thousand copies of your books.

936
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 12: In that room, there were only two black women, and

937
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 12: the other black women there was there because I made

938
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 12: sure she was there, and I'm sitting in this room

939
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 12: and we spent nine hours exchanging all the tips on

940
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 12: how we all became bestsellers. And what I realized is

941
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 12: all of them were best sellers because whenever one of

942
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 12: them was coming out of the book, they would all

943
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 12: take a week and sit with this person and say, so,

944
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 12: what are you doing for your book, and then we

945
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 12: wonder why we are not winning. There's an intentional I

946
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 12: need your help.

947
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: Please show up for me. What do you have. I

948
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: need us to really start being honest with each other.

949
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 12: Don't flex about the Chanelle bag if you're struggling. Also,

950
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 12: I need you to say, hey, I need your help,

951
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 12: because when I would say personally, anybody who's coming out

952
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 12: with the book, I'm gonna.

953
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Do a book session after this.

954
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 12: But I have been so upset for the last year

955
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 12: when all these books by black women are coming out

956
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 12: and failing, and I'm.

957
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: Like, why didn't you call me? Yes, I could have

958
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: helped you.

959
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 7: Like after the fact, I'm like, I could have helped you,

960
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 7: and they're like, I.

961
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: Just didn't think you would.

962
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 12: I'm here so I need all of us to really

963
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 12: start being honest with each other, show up for each

964
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 12: other for real. And when somebody tells you I will

965
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 12: help you, believe them. And I stand here today. One

966
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 12: thing I know I can help everybody within this book

967
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 12: and in this room books. I don't want one person

968
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 12: to come out with a book in this room and

969
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 12: it tanks because I have all our numbers. Now I

970
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 12: know what every book is selling. Our books are failing,

971
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 12: and it hurts my feeling every time. I'm like, y'all

972
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 12: could have called me so number one solution, let's just

973
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 12: start being honest and vulnerable with each other and know

974
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 12: we are all here to be helpmates and that's how

975
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 12: we shift culture, and that's how we shift everything.

976
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 7: Thank you. I love that. Thank you for your vulnerability.

977
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: Can y'all do me one favor because I think it's

978
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 5: so important Again, Jovin, I'm still in all your material today,

979
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: but can you just look at your neighbor and say

980
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: I need help? That's all I need y'all to say,

981
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: because we're still recording this podcast, but I think it's

982
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 5: so important to say that, to do that because we

983
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 5: have to be vulnerable. Lovey, you are so right. So

984
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 5: that's a great place to start. So we know our

985
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: first solution is vulnerability, being honest about your text it

986
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 5: and your chanail bag, being honest. If you need help

987
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: with your book, let me said, I'm here. That is

988
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 5: a New York Times bestseller four times over.

989
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: That's a formula. She got it figured out. Why you

990
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: want to ask her? What is were talking about?

991
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: Getting Angela in space is well? First of all, on

992
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: the books. I just want to shout out real quick

993
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: doctor Sharon Malone, who has a book out right now,

994
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: girl Women's Hea Doctor Malone wa wave in there so

995
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: I ain't know. Yeah, so she has a book out.

996
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I talk to Lovely if you haven't already, sare okay?

997
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 12: Good.

998
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 7: So I just wanted to say really.

999
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: Quickly thank you to Kim Blackwell because this conference is

1000
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: a setting of vulnerability. And last year Angela and I

1001
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: were on the stage with doctor Joy, who moderated a

1002
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: conversation with them. That's okay, well, why you come up

1003
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: with something I want to say on that stage. I mean,

1004
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: it was really just like a conversation. And I'll shout

1005
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: out Angela again. She'll deflect again. I'm gonna shout out again.

1006
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: Angela is a kind of sister who you don't have

1007
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: to say I need help. She sees you and says,

1008
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: I know you need help, and I'm showing up. And

1009
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: there's something about that because if you say, well, what

1010
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: do you need, that's a burden to me because now

1011
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of it. Sometimes it's helpful to

1012
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: say here's what I think you need, and I'm gonna

1013
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: do it. You know I'm gonna uber eat you dinner tonight,

1014
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna you know, I'll keep your kids, or

1015
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: I'll come over and cook you dinner.

1016
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 7: Whatever that is.

1017
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: So last year I talked about, you know, I have

1018
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: a lot of business in New York. I work in

1019
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: New York, I live in DC. I have to be

1020
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: there half the time. And right when I walked off

1021
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 1: the stage, Susan Chapman, wave your hair hands, Susan Chapman,

1022
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: she came up to me and said, I have an

1023
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: apartment in Brooklyn. It's yours whenever you need it, and

1024
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: I have not moved out since I've been there for

1025
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: a year.

1026
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: No, I'm kady, but it's beautiful.

1027
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 7: It's beautiful.

1028
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 3: The air.

1029
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 7: But I did. I took Susan up on that. I

1030
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 7: stated her her beautiful place.

1031
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: But that is the kind of thing where she didn't

1032
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: wait for me to actually just showed up and said, Okay,

1033
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: I heard you say this, I have this, and we

1034
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: have to be that for each other in ways like Angela,

1035
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: I will say, does it the most, but in ways

1036
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: that it stretches us and bends us. Now, my moment

1037
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: of vulnerability is when I have extended myself. I've gotten

1038
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: my feelings hurt a few times, I've been betrayed or

1039
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody say something slick to me, and at this age

1040
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: and stage in life, I retreat, you know, And it's like,

1041
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm insular. I'm grateful to be surrounded by women who

1042
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: I know, I trust. I'm you know, cocooned in that

1043
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: space and I appreciate it, and men who have you know,

1044
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: Andrew has definitely been a source of inspiration and listening

1045
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: ear and personally and professionally, but I have I can

1046
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: get to a place where it's like, if I don't

1047
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: know you, I don't want to talk to you because

1048
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: I've had too many times, or somebody I can talk

1049
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: to you, but I'm not. I might not share something

1050
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: as personal because I've had somebody say something slick and

1051
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: it bothers me.

1052
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 10: Uh.

1053
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: And I've pushed through those moments. But I know after

1054
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: my show was canceled, I retreated. I didn't want to

1055
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: hear from people. There were so many people saying things

1056
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: about me and speaking about me with certainty, and it

1057
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: had never met me before. I was under attack and

1058
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: it just put me in such an emotional hole. And

1059
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: thankfully I've been surrounded by people that I'm climbing out

1060
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: of that. So I just want to say, if you've

1061
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: been in that space, you're not alone in that space either.

1062
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: And when I see other people and I can tell

1063
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: you in that emotional hole, my vulnerability is to share

1064
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: mine and then extend a hand to you to lift

1065
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: you out of that place, because I know what that

1066
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: feels like.

1067
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: We see Bevvy. Thanks to we see Bevvy, Bevy Smith. Hi,

1068
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm Bevy Smith. I'm from Harlem, USA. Yes you are

1069
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: to say I was from She's from Harlem to TV

1070
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: show as well, if you're.

1071
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm a.

1072
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: Young actress as well. I'm an angel new But I

1073
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: wanted to say, Kim, what you've done here is so

1074
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: beautiful and it's very very powerful.

1075
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 11: But I will tell you this, I've been doing a

1076
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 11: lot of hello and hi to everyone and smiling, and

1077
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 11: I've not always received it back. So what I want

1078
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 11: to say is I want to challenge everyone in this

1079
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 11: room to say hello to every single black woman that

1080
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 11: you see. Okay, I shouldn't even have to say that,

1081
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 11: but you should. And the other thing I want to

1082
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 11: challenge us because it's a lot of us in this

1083
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 11: room who know each other. It's a lot of powerful

1084
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 11: and I'm just gonna say, it's a lot of powerful

1085
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 11: clicks up in here, but not everyone is a part

1086
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 11: of a little.

1087
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: Crew and a click and a club and all that.

1088
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 11: I'm very fortunate I know a lot of y'all, so

1089
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 11: I could go up in all the spaces. But because

1090
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 11: I was once a nerd girl who was bullied, I'm

1091
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 11: very sensitive when I see people that are shy, that

1092
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 11: are a little you know, insular, that are sitting at

1093
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 11: the table bull and it's kind of like along, like

1094
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 11: kind of off to the side tonight.

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Speaker 2: When we see any of those people, can we bring

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Speaker 2: them into the phone. Yes, that's a good life lesson.

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Speaker 11: We have to do that because there's so many of

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00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 11: us who are suffering, and chemists built this right. But

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00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 11: if we let those little people just sit on the

1100
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 11: sidelines by themselves, they won't come back next year, yeah, because.

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00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: They'll be like, yeah, it was nice.

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Speaker 11: But if you don't know the people, if you're not

1103
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 11: in the crew, if you're not in the clique, it's

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00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 11: not really good. That's what happens out a lot of conferences.

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00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 11: So I want to make sure that folks feel welcome,

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 11: and so that's my little I.

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Speaker 7: Love that, Bevy. Thank you, thank you, Bevy.

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Speaker 2: That's easy. We talked about vulnerability. We're talking about transparency,

1109
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: trusting someone to be your help when you need help,

1110
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 2: being able to say that we see. Are you coming

1111
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 2: at Nikki?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Nikki, you got Nikki a boss, a real boss

1113
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: from my heart in the building, Nikki, tell everybody your

1114
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 5: name where you're from.

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00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: My name is Nicky Sparrow. I am from Baltimore, with Baltimore,

1116
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: not Baltimore for the people. That's not from Baltimore. But

1117
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: I live in North Florida, Saint Augustine area. So I'm

1118
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: so glad to be here. Miss Kim, you are absolutely jewel.

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00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: And as you was talking Tiffany, I was sitting there

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00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: like Tiffany, I are a lot alike in the way

1121
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: that I'm very protected with my emotions, but I help

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00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 3: everybody naturally. I just want to make sure everybody happy,

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Speaker 3: eat and everything else. Oh, for goodness, what is tip?

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Speaker 2: As I said it, But.

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Speaker 3: Last year I came here kind of like not knowing anybody.

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00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 7: I was gonna be in the corner.

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00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: Melissa and I have become like this first of all

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Speaker 3: the the yes, thank you, the the CMO of the

1129
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: Atlanta Hawks, and then also yes, looks she had to

1130
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 3: take a quick call, but she'll be back. But even

1131
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: from there, just the call, look at you. I'm the

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00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: Melissa who I have since connected to and when I'm

1133
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, making sure that I connect with her. And

1134
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: then Kim, no, I'm like him if it's anything here,

1135
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: this was going on, this is who and everything else.

1136
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 3: So I wanted to tell and I said this to Kim.

1137
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: I have never experienced sisterhood like this. I have been

1138
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: traditionally the only one that looked like me in the room,

1139
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: and that has become some of my protection of not

1140
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 3: allowing all of the sensitivit because I got to be strong,

1141
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: because I make sure in the room. I got to

1142
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 3: make sure Melissa get in the room. I got to

1143
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: make sure doctor Kee get in the room, and everybody

1144
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: else and making sure that I'm plugging them in. So

1145
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: sometimes when you don't see somebody being sensitive, it's not

1146
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: that they're not sensitive when inside. It's because first of all,

1147
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: you don't know what they have to do even to

1148
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: be in the room, yes, and to maintain everything that

1149
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: comes along with them when people don't.

1150
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: Want you in the room.

1151
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: But I'm getting a little sassy now that I'm over

1152
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: fifty because when people say who are you, I said,

1153
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: you can google me.

1154
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: And her support pages.

1155
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: That's me because I can tell they're not asking anybody

1156
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 3: else in the room who they are because they feel

1157
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: like they belong there.

1158
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: So thank you all for being you.

1159
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: Kim, you are absolutely a jewel, and so thank you

1160
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 3: for being you, your vision and everything else. Thank you

1161
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: to all of my iHeart family out here, doctor joy

1162
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 3: Derby and my Native Pot.

1163
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be me if it wasn't like whatever.

1164
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: And any of your business people that want to sponsor

1165
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: the Native Pot let us know.

1166
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. We're talking about right as.

1167
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 3: You were talking about early we had these conversations like

1168
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: in order for them to be supported and you want

1169
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: to hear them talk authentically and be honest, it absolutely

1170
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 3: take the sponsorships because you have so many companies say

1171
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: we want that, but then we don't want that because

1172
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: then they don't want to be associated with that. And

1173
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 3: the part of it is is not we don't want this,

1174
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: we need this in order for us.

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 9: To have this.

1176
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: It does. Let's sake sponsorships.

1177
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: So if you're interested, I'll be right over there, or

1178
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: you can talk to one of them and we can

1179
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 3: make sure that sales starts and we'll make sure that

1180
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: you're well taken care of.

1181
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Thanks, we love you. In the last five minutes that

1182
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: we have, we do really.

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00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 5: Want to open it up for folks who are feeling

1184
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: that kind of attack we were talking about earlier. It's

1185
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 5: not that you would be a case study, but it

1186
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 5: gives us something to work toward. Even as we leave

1187
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 5: this when we leave Native lampod our safe space, it

1188
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that we have to walk out of safety.

1189
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that even after we walk out of

1190
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 5: these ballroom doors, that you're on your own. What we

1191
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 5: hope that we model from here and out of the

1192
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: good teaching of Jovian and brit We had two preachers

1193
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 5: with us today, that we stay in that intention and

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00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: that we model that intention throughout this conference and throughout

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00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 5: our lives. So if you are feeling attacked or a

1196
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 5: different type of pressure, we invite you to come forward.

1197
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 5: We will talk to you, and we'll also make sure

1198
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 5: that our sisters and our dear brothers, the brothers that

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 5: are around here two will also surround you.

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Speaker 9: I can I offer one brother on the stage is

1201
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 9: I was thinking as the women were talking in so

1202
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 9: many powerful testimonies about what keeps me from sharing of vulnerability,

1203
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 9: And part of it is is too many experiences where

1204
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 9: you've heard from other people who weren't part of the

1205
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 9: assist to you all about the assist, and then some

1206
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 9: because somebody didn't ran and told that, which.

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00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 8: Certainly causes me to shut.

1208
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 9: Down that I don't want to I don't want to

1209
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 9: make myself available in my crisis to ask for help.

1210
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 9: Then you offer it and you do it, and then

1211
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 9: the world knows about what went down when it was

1212
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 9: never their business. And so I think part of it

1213
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 9: has to be a level of trust, one intention. If

1214
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 9: I help you, saying way I feel about loaning money,

1215
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 9: I'm almost writing it off in my head that I'm

1216
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 9: never getting that money back. But you came to me

1217
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 9: in a moment of need, and I hope to have

1218
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 9: met that need for you. And what.

1219
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 8: I ain't give you no money, you cause me problems

1220
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 8: in my house.

1221
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 9: So the the I just think if we disassociate ourselves

1222
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 9: from outcome. So the thing that I did to help

1223
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 9: you I did it because I love you, I care

1224
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 9: for you. I want you to thrive, go forth. And

1225
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 9: what if they go on and go thrive, that's great.

1226
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 9: If they go get a Chanell bag because they felt

1227
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 9: great and they needed to celebrate, then I'm not mad

1228
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 9: at that Chanell bag. The season was different when they

1229
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 9: bought that bag, and now the season's changed, and that's

1230
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 9: not an indictment on their priorities.

1231
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 8: And so I just if you're doing the if when.

1232
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 9: We go outside of ourselves to extend something to somebody,

1233
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 9: I just feel like Mother Earth wants us to be

1234
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 9: giving it as an off, not with an expectation of

1235
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 9: the return, the outcome, the well since I did that,

1236
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 9: she ought to be doing this is that in the

1237
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 9: thirty you shouldn't have no bills that are late now

1238
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 9: because it's not and all of us.

1239
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 8: Suffer from it.

1240
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 9: But it's a real inhibitor from people showing up as

1241
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 9: their full selves and their need and their vulnerability and

1242
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 9: their hurt and their absence of grace because they know

1243
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 9: you may be talking with four tongue because eventually now

1244
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 9: you're shaming me for my need.

1245
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 7: I only a gift with the receipt I want to.

1246
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 5: We have two and a half minutes remaining, and I

1247
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 5: want us to close out with calls to action.

1248
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: So Andrew, why don't you start us off?

1249
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 9: Release judgment? Release the judgment. It ain't got nothing to

1250
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 9: do with you, nothing to do with you. Those hateful

1251
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 9: comments that show up in the inbox. You don't know

1252
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 9: me well enough to hate me like that. Now, maybe

1253
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 9: something about my life has pricked you, and so you're

1254
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 9: getting your rocks off on me because you can't tell

1255
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 9: the person who you need to be telling. So just

1256
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 9: let the judgment go. Doesn't advantage you.

1257
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 8: I love that.

1258
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow up on what Lovey said, Let's make

1259
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: black women bestsellers. So my call to action is go

1260
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: by doctor Sharon Malone's book Please Girl and Women. And

1261
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: she's talking about stuff that we all experience in here.

1262
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm about ten degrees hotter than everybody else. I don't know,

1263
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: that's what I feel like.

1264
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm twenty four, not at twelve.

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 7: I have early early perimental Paul, Okay, got it is

1266
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 7: that a thing?

1267
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 2: Doctor Malone? She said?

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 7: No, Well, can I say?

1269
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: I was in DC and doctor Sharon Malone walked up

1270
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: to me and she says, you know you're Perimantal Pauls,

1271
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: A'm like, what hell?

1272
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 5: And I was she was looking out, She was just looking.

1273
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 5: My call to action is about these attacks that we're witnessing.

1274
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 5: Marilyn Moseby. Please get familiar with her name. If you're not,

1275
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 5: please sign the petition. If you haven't, we are requesting

1276
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 5: a presidential pardon for Marilyn Moseby. I'm telling you all,

1277
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 5: she is not the only one. I can give you

1278
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 5: a list of black women prosecutors, a list of black

1279
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 5: elected officials who have been targeted. Please get familiar with

1280
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 5: that case. My last call to action is to support

1281
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 5: what Bevy stated. I hear you, Sis, I love you.

1282
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make sure I work overtime. This is a

1283
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 5: reunion for me, so I am so excited to see

1284
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 5: my friends, but it would be so much better and

1285
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 5: richer if my friend circle grew in this room, in

1286
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 5: at this conference, and so can. We will lift you

1287
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 5: up and honor your spirit in that way, making sure

1288
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 5: we're bringing everyone in. And as we always say on

1289
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 5: this podcast, if y'all are a wake back there, we're

1290
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: on a music y'all.

1291
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: Always say on this podcast, welcome y'all. How many days

1292
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 2: for that election.

1293
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 5: Morning.

1294
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining the Natives intention of what the

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: info and on little latest regulum mccross connected to the

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01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 4: statements that you leave on our socials. Thank you sincerely

1297
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: for the patients reason for your choice is cleared, so

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 4: grateful it took to execute roads. Thank you for serve,

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01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 4: defend and protect the truth.

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Speaker 2: Even in peace. For welcome home to all of the

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Speaker 2: natives wait, thank you, Welcome y'all.

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Speaker 8: Welcome.

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1304
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,400
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