Speaker 1: From iHeartRadio and Doghouse Pictures. This is Fight Night. I'm
Speaker 1: Jeff Keating.
Speaker 2: And I'm Kenny back KB in the house. Finally, after
Speaker 2: twenty years, we are on the mic together.
Speaker 3: I'm believe incredible. Honestly, like twenty years of Fight Night.
Speaker 3: In September fifth, we are going to be on Peacock's
Speaker 3: sharing this amazing story with the world. How do you feel, Jeff,
Speaker 3: Because this is a literal twenty year journey for you personally.
Speaker 2: I've been asked that question a lot recently and honestly
Speaker 2: just trying to get a grip on even how to answer.
Speaker 2: So this is the best way I can describe it.
Speaker 2: I feel at this point now like I was dating the.
Speaker 1: Hot up and coming actress.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just say the hot you know that that
Speaker 2: knew that she was going to break out at some
Speaker 2: point and one day she would be a star. And
Speaker 2: now she's left me behind and it's oh no, yes, way,
Speaker 2: And it's all too big for me now, Like I
Speaker 2: feel like it's so big, like it's just surpassed me.
Speaker 3: Like, you know what, it's ironic you say that because
Speaker 3: the entire process, that's how you acted on set. But
Speaker 3: we're gonna we're gonna go back, okay before we come forward,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about how you heard about this
Speaker 3: story originally, and you know, we'll get right into how
Speaker 3: we met because you know you heard the story from
Speaker 3: your dad, right yep, and talk about a little bit
Speaker 3: for the newcomers because we have way more fans, yes,
Speaker 3: ready for fight night September fifth, and we had when
Speaker 3: we had the podcast.
Speaker 2: And by the way, we always want you to go
Speaker 2: back and listen to the podcast which is on iHeartRadio
Speaker 2: another platform platform.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2: My dad and mom were in Atlanta back literally in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties and getting ready to leave on their second honeymoon.
Speaker 2: So they had eloped to Italy, Wow, without telling any
Speaker 2: of the fam. My Jewish grandmother, Elizabeth Hoffman, God Rest
Speaker 2: her soul, said no, no, no, You're going to have a
Speaker 2: wedding here in Nashville with all of our family. Ok
Speaker 2: So they're basically coming off of that second wedding. They're
Speaker 2: in Atlanta about to go back to Italy for another honeymoon,
Speaker 2: and Ali's in town. Obviously will this come exactly So
Speaker 2: the morning that they're leaving on the plane to go
Speaker 2: to Italy. My dad remembers reading the article. Okay, so
Speaker 2: that's how like in his mind this get captured. We'll
Speaker 2: get to mom at some point, but she was working
Speaker 2: obviously at the hotel, the High Regency, where all this,
Speaker 2: you know, goes down.
Speaker 3: And it was amazing, by the way, because we were
Speaker 3: actually there when you first told me about the story
Speaker 3: with your dad. We were literally at the hotel shooting night.
Speaker 3: You know. It was the first time I heard you
Speaker 3: tell that story. Yes, no, since I've known you. When
Speaker 3: we were shooting fight night, right, like you told me
Speaker 3: the story. We're in there, I'm like, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't know that part of it.
Speaker 3: I didn't for some reason. And I'm like in there
Speaker 3: and I'm feeling all the fields. I'm looking at you know,
Speaker 3: Terrence and Sam and Kevin and you know Atkins, you know,
Speaker 3: Ory Harvey coming through in the white and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 3: your dad like literally told you the story. So we
Speaker 3: fast forward a little bit, right, you heard the story
Speaker 3: from your dad. What age were you when you were like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I want to dig into this story?
Speaker 2: Well that would have been so I started writing, you know,
Speaker 2: attempting to write screenplays let's say late twenties or early thirties,
Speaker 2: which would have been around two.
Speaker 1: Thousand ishes, okay, And.
Speaker 2: After a couple of attempts just to you know, get
Speaker 2: writing and just learn what that's when my dad brought
Speaker 2: me the story. So it probably like he probably a
Speaker 2: fish brought it to me, you know, let's say two
Speaker 2: thousand and one, two thousand and two, somewhere around there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And as soon as I go to the library and
Speaker 2: we're sitting there looking at microfilm and the headline comes up,
Speaker 2: I turned to my dad and decater library and just say,
Speaker 2: this is my next movie, Dad, Like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: And that's where it kind of started. So the research
Speaker 2: for you know, a year, you're reading the articles all
Speaker 2: that stuff, and ultimately it led to that interview with j. D.
Speaker 1: Hudson the cop Yes, and then finding out.
Speaker 2: That spoiler alert somebody was still around, and getting that
Speaker 2: interview with Chicken Man or calling the church, and so
Speaker 2: that's a good story right there. So this was the
Speaker 2: chills moment one, and there's a few of them, but
Speaker 2: this was the first. Well the first was sitting in
Speaker 2: JD's house, you know, tough black cop shaft refusing to
Speaker 2: turn off the Williams sisters on wimbleds me with my little.
Speaker 3: Microof you know, trying to get.
Speaker 2: A cassette radio and finding out that Chicken Man's still
Speaker 2: alive and literally like pacing his living room like you know,
Speaker 2: a giggler.
Speaker 1: I'm just giggling. I was like, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: he's looking at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 2: So a few weeks later, we're calling churches around Atlanta.
Speaker 1: We get Salem bapt In Church.
Speaker 2: We find out that there's a Reverend Williams there, and
Speaker 2: I get on the phone and I say, hey, is
Speaker 2: you know Reverend Williams there today? I'd like to speak
Speaker 2: to him. Comes to the phone, yes, and I basically say, hey,
Speaker 2: Reverend Williams, this is Jeff Keating. You know, I'm a producer.
Speaker 2: I've been researching this story. Are you the Chicken Man
Speaker 2: right now? What year is this again? Two thousand and three?
Speaker 3: Okay, got it?
Speaker 1: Boone goes dead. I'm telling you, Kenny.
Speaker 2: It seemed like about a good ten seconds like there
Speaker 2: was like do I even want to respond to this question?
Speaker 2: And then ultimately you just hear, yes, son, I am
Speaker 2: the Chicken Man.
Speaker 1: And then from.
Speaker 3: That that was you know, was it a thing though,
Speaker 3: because you got to imagine there was. They were enamored
Speaker 3: by the story. You you know, are I mean clipping
Speaker 3: you took me back in the day, was saying you
Speaker 3: were looking at microfilm. Yeah, you know you you have
Speaker 3: these articles in research and you have personal testimony, right
Speaker 3: because you'd already met jdep and now he confirms that
Speaker 3: he's the Chicken Man.
Speaker 2: It's almost like this, It was really and just to
Speaker 2: know that because again you got to remember there was
Speaker 2: probably let's say seven to ten articles that said he
Speaker 2: was killed, assassinated in a contract. Yeah, so many drug
Speaker 2: deal going arrival but whatever, exactly. So shocking that, you know,
Speaker 2: news always doesn't get it all, you know, Instagram and
Speaker 2: social media just like but now we're talking fifty years ago.
Speaker 2: But it's like people are printing this that anybody just
Speaker 2: you know, research and call and find out this guy
Speaker 2: still anyway.
Speaker 3: So how did you wait? So you have this, this
Speaker 3: this confirmation that the legendary Chicken Man exists. It's still alive.
Speaker 3: He's a preacher. Yep. It just doesn't go together on
Speaker 3: some levels when you're about to see this amazing, this
Speaker 3: is this coming September. But I mean, what what was
Speaker 3: the next step? So you had Jack going to visit
Speaker 3: him in person? Chicken Okay, so you go to the church.
Speaker 3: At the church, was he talking that fly shit or
Speaker 3: was he.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. I never this is what's weird.
Speaker 3: You did what I'm saying, though, like you did go
Speaker 3: back into character after he started.
Speaker 2: Talking, not at all. I always knew Reverend with this
Speaker 2: is what's crazy. I only met Reverend Williams. I saw
Speaker 2: a glint or a shimmer of Chicken Man, but I
Speaker 2: never met Chicken Man.
Speaker 3: I was wondering that show up.
Speaker 2: Only a glint, a smile, a glint in his eye,
Speaker 2: but nothing like this stuff.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It met Rev.
Speaker 1: I met Rev and only met Rev.
Speaker 2: So it's weird to hear about Chicken Man and other
Speaker 2: people talk about him, and JD talk about him, and
Speaker 2: hear stories. Even the way he told it, it's Rev
Speaker 2: talking about Chicken Man. It's not Chicken Man talking about
Speaker 2: chicken It was like this mythic figure almost right, that
Speaker 2: I really never met.
Speaker 3: Right, And then we are seeing, you know, fast forward
Speaker 3: to kind of shooting Fight night and been on set
Speaker 3: and seeing like Kevin become the Chicken Man and Cheetah
Speaker 3: with j D.
Speaker 1: Hudson, Yes, and Cheetah.
Speaker 3: I mean seeing him on set, seeing them both on set,
Speaker 3: I mean you see the genius set. What were some
Speaker 3: of the things that when you initially had the conversation, right,
Speaker 3: but you've now talked to them both, you're now in
Speaker 3: process or so you get the life rights. We'll just
Speaker 3: get to the life right. You get to the opportunity
Speaker 3: where you can tell the story, you start to go pitch.
Speaker 3: What was the first thing you did?
Speaker 2: Get them both on camera for the first time ever
Speaker 2: talking about it. So they hadn't seen each other in
Speaker 2: over a decade, So just imagine that. You know, first
Speaker 2: of all, it's two guys that years ago used to
Speaker 2: be on opposite sides of the street. You know, you
Speaker 2: got JD and Chicken in mutual respect. But it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna do your thing you're doing, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna run, I'm gonna chase you.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: So it was always that, but again and for some
Speaker 2: reason this mutual respect they had, and now Gordon is reverend.
Speaker 2: So as soon as they walk in, I mean they
Speaker 2: both light up and it's just this hug that they
Speaker 2: come together, and I think he says, JD to Chicken Man,
Speaker 2: my pastor, you know, my pastor.
Speaker 3: But how does so So when when when rev Aka
Speaker 3: Chicken Man sees JD, do you think they went immediately back.
Speaker 2: To Oh you could tell. I mean, it was this friendship.
Speaker 2: It was this like love for each other.
Speaker 3: It was real. Long had they not seen each other a.
Speaker 2: Decade at least since I got them on camera, and
Speaker 2: they'd never been on camera together ever, So now you
Speaker 2: got them like in front of you know, and telling
Speaker 2: this story. And one of the things that on during
Speaker 2: the interview they talked about is that JD never called
Speaker 2: him Chicken Man, right, you know, so a lot of
Speaker 2: people did, but JD never did that.
Speaker 1: So so then it was just.
Speaker 2: Kind of them reminiscing and all of us that were there.
Speaker 2: You know, I had some camera people, photographers, my mom,
Speaker 2: my sister and all these people just kind of watching
Speaker 2: their care and stuff.
Speaker 1: Again go back and type. But even there, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: Right, he still was real. It was real. So this
Speaker 3: is ironic, right, You witnessed history, right, because during this
Speaker 3: time you're eager to tell the story. You don't know
Speaker 3: what's going to happen? You know you're a part of
Speaker 3: this magic right because you know? And how dare you
Speaker 3: ask me to host the podcast, Ladies and gentlemen, for
Speaker 3: those who are listening right now and have been on
Speaker 3: this journey with the entire podcast. Jeff Keating actually asked
Speaker 3: me to be the host of the Fight Night podcast,
Speaker 3: and I was like, Jeff, how the fuck could I
Speaker 3: tell the story better than you? And you like having
Speaker 3: these moments, Jeff, this is why it's here. You did
Speaker 3: the research, You were really on your journalism thing, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, let me get to the bottom
Speaker 3: of this story. And then you had the two pillars,
Speaker 3: the foundation of the story to you know, be your music.
Speaker 3: Some people have to go off of clips like up
Speaker 3: Town Saturday Night. You know, this is Uptown Saturday Night.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever said this. I know
Speaker 3: I've said it a million times, but was based off
Speaker 3: of this actual story. But you have these you know,
Speaker 3: superheroes in this particular storytelling and your de phenomenal job.
Speaker 3: By the way, thank you. I'm proud of you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: didn't want to get on the mic. Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: You should have seen him on set. He was he
Speaker 3: was like, it was almost as if he wasn't the
Speaker 3: guy who brought this to Fruition. But you know, I
Speaker 3: am proud of you. You know. But the next phase
Speaker 3: of this is when we really met. I think, right,
Speaker 3: we can fast forward, you know, to you trying to shop.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you got to start at least with Dallas.
Speaker 2: The fact that absolute, Yeah, let's give our versions, because again,
Speaker 2: right about that time is the first time after let's
Speaker 2: say a couple of years of getting the life rights
Speaker 2: and doing the researches, but now we're trying to sell it, okay, exactly,
Speaker 2: and Dallas would have been the first stop. So you
Speaker 2: tell because again you worked for Dallas's companies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: See, you tell your version, I'll tell mine, and then
Speaker 2: we'll kind of show how our world's collide, which was
Speaker 2: but by the way, years later, because two thousand and four,
Speaker 2: I think, is when I get my first option from Dallas.
Speaker 2: And then it's around two thousand and eight ish that
Speaker 2: you and I like, you know, finally.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, So I was, you know, working with Dallas
Speaker 3: and Dave Gates, and I heard the story and I
Speaker 3: was just enamored by the fact that this heist happened, right,
Speaker 3: and in theory, you're thinking about, how can a heist
Speaker 3: happen for a million dollars at this little last house
Speaker 3: new mind you, I live in Atlanta, you know, I
Speaker 3: had started my career ninety two, so I'm you know,
Speaker 3: like you said, it's twelve years later almost, and I'm
Speaker 3: just hearing this story. And I had heard so many stories.
Speaker 3: I mean, BMF had you know, just entered the scene.
Speaker 3: All these things are happening, and I'm like, wait, this
Speaker 3: is so interesting. But then it was like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what to do with it. Like I'm not in
Speaker 3: the film business. I was strictly music man at that time.
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget I had launch Revolt Television with
Speaker 3: Sean Colmes and Andre Herrel, and I was looking to
Speaker 3: find content to put on the network. And I remember
Speaker 3: I drove in Gumball three thousand. I had did like
Speaker 3: these little shorts and all this stuff, and I was
Speaker 3: just getting the bug, you know. And then I remember
Speaker 3: reaching out to Dave Gates to see if Dallas Steele
Speaker 3: had Fight Night and he was like, no, he doesn't
Speaker 3: have it. And I was like, all right, cool, can
Speaker 3: you find you know Jeff Keating because he was like, yes,
Speaker 3: his name is Jeff Keating, he owes life wright. So
Speaker 3: can you find Jeff? He was like, yes, I can
Speaker 3: find him. And so I remember him calling he called me, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I remember him calling me, say he got in
Speaker 3: contact with you. And then what did you think when
Speaker 3: he was calling? Like, where were you at even with
Speaker 3: the project at that time when he called you? And
Speaker 3: I was looking for.
Speaker 2: You, If I'm not mistaken, it had gone through a second
Speaker 2: fruition with another company, which we don't want to mention
Speaker 2: they weren't good at all, but as.
Speaker 3: I had my gun noise like a push.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I got the option back again, got it okay.
Speaker 2: And so after that, Dave calls me, and I was
Speaker 2: working with Lars at the time because they were trying
Speaker 2: to get it off the ground.
Speaker 4: And and they and so they basically connected you with
Speaker 4: Lars's reps, who was repping the project at the time,
Speaker 4: and you ended up, I think, getting on the phone
Speaker 4: with either Lars and or his reps.
Speaker 1: And at some point I want.
Speaker 2: To say remember that, but I want to say that
Speaker 2: you'd already connected with the trip with Will, which I
Speaker 2: want you to tell that story because it's great. But
Speaker 2: I think let me let me ask you this. In
Speaker 2: your mind, do you remember contacting me before you ran
Speaker 2: into Will or afterwards?
Speaker 3: I think I did before, okay, because actually that was.
Speaker 1: Just a lucky break.
Speaker 3: I had booked something with Kevin, okay, and I had
Speaker 3: mentioned it to Kevin, but Kevin was too busy.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I remember what you booked with Kevin, You remember.
Speaker 3: The film, and I had set it in like passing,
Speaker 3: and you know he's on fire at this time, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't like a real thing I could follow up
Speaker 3: on souse. I know how these things go. And then
Speaker 3: I remembered that I had pitched Will with the script
Speaker 3: that I had wrote called Fantasy Reel, And I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what, let me go back that you wrote.
Speaker 3: I co wrote a script called Fantasy Real, loosely based
Speaker 3: off of Purple Rain. You know, obsessed with Prince. He
Speaker 3: is my father in my mind. So I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, we go to Will, let me see what
Speaker 3: he thinks about the story. Immediately he was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, this is all over. Backup, because there's a
Speaker 3: longer and better story. You either long.
Speaker 1: You either ran you were on a plane with him
Speaker 1: somewhere that's.
Speaker 3: Not you know, we were I mean, but this is
Speaker 3: all a part of the courting state, right, So I
Speaker 3: told him the idea. He was enamored by it. Ironically,
Speaker 3: we were on a plane together and he his car
Speaker 3: service wasn't there, so I got an opportunity to use
Speaker 3: my car service to take him to his house. You know,
Speaker 3: reiterated the story, talked about it more, and that's how
Speaker 3: those things happened. But I mean, in all, well, he
Speaker 3: loved the concept of that of the story. He's like,
Speaker 3: what a million dollars heights in George. I mean, he's
Speaker 3: Atlanta at that time, right, He's breaking records. He's almost
Speaker 3: unbelievable nobody. But it was amazing to your po I'm
Speaker 3: glad you reminded me about the plain thing because I
Speaker 3: was like, oh shit, I.
Speaker 2: Get another It's just that's a lucky break where his
Speaker 2: car service and now you get the long because you're like, Jeff,
Speaker 2: at the end of that ride, I knew he was.
Speaker 3: In and that's absolutely and honestly, yeah, it definitely sold him.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I felt like he was
Speaker 3: in from the door. I just think that he had
Speaker 3: so much going on. It was you know how things are,
Speaker 3: of course, and so you know, after that we had
Speaker 3: a meeting, and the meeting was unbelievable. And I do
Speaker 3: want to tell a funny story about that because and
Speaker 3: I think the culprit is James Lopez. James Lopez, I
Speaker 3: think invited Tip, right, So this is how the story goes.
Speaker 3: So after I know Will is excited about it. We've
Speaker 3: had several conversations about it. You know, I started being proactive.
Speaker 3: I created a movie poster. You know, I put rayleiod
Speaker 3: on the.
Speaker 1: Only Way You left me that movie.
Speaker 3: But you didn't talk much back then. Actually it was
Speaker 3: and Brian and so you know, we were you know,
Speaker 3: gearing up to like, you know, get ready for something.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what it was going to be. And
Speaker 3: so you know, I had Taraji on the post Ironics.
Speaker 3: She ended up being in it, and so I just
Speaker 3: was a dream sequence of like, you know whatever, and
Speaker 3: I was like getting into like I want this to
Speaker 3: be like Harlem Knights, you know, all these black superheroes.
Speaker 3: You got it early, yeah, you got it, yeah, very early.
Speaker 3: And so I was like yeah, so you know Will
Speaker 3: was with me, and he you know, encouraged me, and
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. I was like, okay, Atlanta has to
Speaker 3: be in this project. So I'm calling you know, I
Speaker 3: had already called Mike Epps. You know, he was excited.
Speaker 3: He called t I, and t I calls me and
Speaker 3: he's like, yo, you know I want to I want
Speaker 3: to be in it. Okay, cool? He said, yeah, my
Speaker 3: mom and Chicken Man or my daddy somebody named him
Speaker 3: in his fanst all this stuff. And I was like, absolutely,
Speaker 3: think it.
Speaker 2: I think it might have been Tips uncle and Chicken
Speaker 2: Men that were pretty close.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm like absolutely all the things. Now, mind you,
Speaker 3: I'm not telling him I want him to be a producer,
Speaker 3: none of that. I'm just just talk. I'm being proactive
Speaker 3: because this project exactly. But again back to this story,
Speaker 3: so it's a whole thing. So he goes into this
Speaker 3: whole thing, and I think James Lopez had invited him
Speaker 3: to my next meeting with with Will. So I'm in
Speaker 3: the meeting and I you know, I know business and
Speaker 3: I know how people try to get in where they
Speaker 3: fit in, and so, uh, we had this conversation. At
Speaker 3: the end. I'm like, Will, you need to make sure
Speaker 3: you're in control of what's going on? Because I didn't
Speaker 3: invite touch touch here. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I don't want to because
Speaker 3: you know, it's just it gets weird and everybody's in
Speaker 3: the streets all the time. We're at the same events,
Speaker 3: and at that time I was deep party man. So
Speaker 3: I'm seeing this motherfucker every two weeks. And so, long
Speaker 3: story short, I remember when we finally, you know, got
Speaker 3: to deal with Universal for our feature and Lars wrote
Speaker 3: that whack ass script and it was it was kind
Speaker 3: of here. Listen, let's at least clean. Don't clean up
Speaker 3: what I said. You can say something if you like,
Speaker 3: but that's script. Got a shelter.
Speaker 1: Possible. But listen, no, let me say.
Speaker 3: A coupled with Kevin and uptown.
Speaker 2: So let me say this, though you got executives and
Speaker 2: I know the guy working on that that wasn't pushing
Speaker 2: or promote the project at all, which is if our
Speaker 2: script was amazing, would we have not chased the guy.
Speaker 1: We'll get to shamee a minute, but you got.
Speaker 3: Hello, it was meant to be. But I'm gonna talk
Speaker 3: about it, and that's why you want me on it. Okay, great,
Speaker 3: So then we get this, we get this deal our script,
Speaker 3: and coupled with the fact that Kevin had announced uptown
Speaker 3: Saturday night, it got super weird loosely based on the
Speaker 3: same story, and so rival projects, all that rival projects,
Speaker 3: all types of things will have amazing things happening and
Speaker 3: going on. So he didn't want to fight, right, so
Speaker 3: we got shoved. And you know, I remember in that
Speaker 3: process though, I was at the c I Double A.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I ever told your story. I'm
Speaker 3: at CI Double A right now, mind you. In this process,
Speaker 3: you and I did right by Dallas. We got him
Speaker 3: a check, he got paid, he signed off on a
Speaker 3: contract in that process, I know, I remember when the
Speaker 3: announcement came out. I was at the c I Double
Speaker 3: A and back to back phone calls. You will not
Speaker 3: believe this. So I am literally about to go to
Speaker 3: an event by client BMW's downstairs to pick me up
Speaker 3: in the new seventh series. I'm on my waist. I
Speaker 3: get a call from a Dominican area code phone number. No,
Speaker 3: this is unbelievable. So I'm literally, you know, I'm in
Speaker 3: love right now. We just had an announcement from Universal.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm like, I'm I'm a fucking executive producer, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm transferring all my energy into film and television.
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, I answered the phone because
Speaker 3: I never answer numbers I don't know with me. So
Speaker 3: I answer the phone and it's Haitian Jack. Now, ladies
Speaker 3: and gentlemen, this is a known gangster I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: When you look at the two POC documentaries and see
Speaker 3: what he got caught up in in the rape allegations
Speaker 3: and when he got shot, this man's name comes up
Speaker 3: and I'm like, and I know him by the way
Speaker 3: I know him, And so he's like, kidd, hey, how
Speaker 3: you doing.
Speaker 5: I'm like Jack, He's like, yeah, man, I'm into Dominican.
Speaker 5: They won't let me back in the states Man. But
Speaker 5: this motherfucker Dallas Austin called me and said, y'all.
Speaker 3: Got a problem. Now, mind you if you got a
Speaker 3: call from Haitian Jack in the nineties, you got to
Speaker 3: pay right. And I'm like, I know this motherfucker Dallas
Speaker 3: that did not call Haitian Jack and say that I
Speaker 3: didn't do right by him, or whatever the case. I
Speaker 3: don't even know why he called him. So immediately in
Speaker 3: anybody who's ever been in the street, you have to
Speaker 3: kind of put your foot down immediately or they start
Speaker 3: pressing harder. So I was like, look, man, you ain't
Speaker 3: calling me about no motherfucker shit. I handle because I
Speaker 3: paid the man. He got paid. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no. And I know Jack, So you know it
Speaker 3: was it was either like he was gonna press me
Speaker 3: if I was going to go for some money, or
Speaker 3: he's gonna be like, you know, I need something, so
Speaker 3: short enough. I was like, Jack, he got paid. Oh man, man,
Speaker 3: fuck Dallas. You know I'm calling about my documentary. Can
Speaker 3: you help me out with so flip the script same day,
Speaker 3: get in the sties to go to I mean, I
Speaker 3: think we did the event. I'm at Ruth Chris and
Speaker 3: Tip cost me and so I'm like, this is a day,
Speaker 3: Like what what the fuck is going on? He's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I just don't feel right, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, I was at that meeting with y'all, and
Speaker 3: you know this movie's coming out and I'm not a
Speaker 3: part of it. It's Atlanta. I mean, I said, listen, bro,
Speaker 3: I need you to listen to me because I just
Speaker 3: had a phone call. I'm turned okay, I'm with the shits.
Speaker 3: I'm not really feeling all this energy because you know,
Speaker 3: you had nothing to do with this project, so I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't even know why you're calling me. I told
Speaker 3: you I want you to be in the project. I
Speaker 3: still want you to be in the project because at
Speaker 3: this time we still had a feature coming. But I
Speaker 3: don't know what else you want from me. And you know,
Speaker 3: Tip is a very he has a lot of Puff
Speaker 3: Daddy in him, as far as the way he could
Speaker 3: Jedi mind trick you, you know what I mean, or
Speaker 3: make you feel like we are one and we Atlanta
Speaker 3: and we should be doing And I'm like, nigga, I
Speaker 3: just told you that I don't. I don't. I'm not
Speaker 3: giving you shit. You don't deserve shit. You ain't do shit.
Speaker 3: And it was to the point where He's like, I
Speaker 3: don't really like the way you're talking to me, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't know how to talk. I'm offended,
Speaker 3: So let's just get off the phone. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about? Picked back up, won't you?
Speaker 2: Calls Jack and trying to enjoy a day where you
Speaker 2: got a couple of yeah and history wise. I mean
Speaker 2: I never talked to Tip. I mean I had heard
Speaker 2: through one you know, phone call, but I mean it's
Speaker 2: you know, seventeen years of me working.
Speaker 3: But he tried it again.
Speaker 1: I know of people that I talked to and work
Speaker 1: with along the way.
Speaker 3: It was you know, for me, it was uncomfortable because,
Speaker 3: like I took a liking to you right at this time.
Speaker 3: It's the first thing and I'm like, no, I know
Speaker 3: who I've been talking to the whole time. I know
Speaker 3: who I've been working through the process with. And it
Speaker 3: was just uncomfortable because I feel like, you know, although
Speaker 3: it would have been great for Tip to be in
Speaker 3: it and Dallas, if you'd have had your your rights,
Speaker 3: you'd have been involved. But everybody who did something got paid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and those who did not we moved on. So needs
Speaker 3: to say we didn't end up doing the feature.
Speaker 1: And we'll get back.
Speaker 2: But just one more thing about okay, so at the end,
Speaker 2: first of all, we didn't get it. I got to
Speaker 2: say this because this is public, okay, But in the
Speaker 2: middle and for so somebody that is trying to get
Speaker 2: such a huge project off the ground and going through
Speaker 2: the business side of this for the first time before
Speaker 2: you and I even meet. When Dallas has the option,
Speaker 2: he gets busted over in Dubai for cocaine possession.
Speaker 1: No, it's cocaine possess. That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You listen if I'm saying that wrong, but if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken, go back drug whatever, thank you, And it's public.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying on my side, like that's my
Speaker 2: guy at the time. So I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: my project. Like he's trapped over there, You've got cinners.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, what's gonna again. I want him to
Speaker 2: get out, you know, it's like I don't want it,
Speaker 2: but I'm just thinking, like what's going to happen? So
Speaker 2: fight night for months like sits because it's like we
Speaker 2: don't have and then he comes back, Thank goodness, he's out.
Speaker 2: He's back in the States again, and they he's got
Speaker 2: like his team. They're trying to figure out, hey, we
Speaker 2: may just want to buy this off Jeff, And they
Speaker 2: at some point come to me, they say, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: how much to buy it out exactly? And whatever they
Speaker 2: gave me was close. I almost sold, Like if they
Speaker 2: would have made a legitimate offer, I mean back in
Speaker 2: the day, you know, that kind of money.
Speaker 1: It's like you know, and I'm just like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, looking back finger, it's like, what's the whole Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like it shows you how close like
Speaker 2: buyouts can happen or things can turn. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just for people that are listening and how there's so
Speaker 2: many ups and down.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of luck in all this.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of a lot and it's a lot
Speaker 3: of timing, timing, and it's also to standing, you know,
Speaker 3: strong on what you believe. This project could.
Speaker 2: Become a fucking turtle man, Like I'll know you are
Speaker 2: like that race goes on the biggest budget TV hairs
Speaker 2: passed the hair twenty times and I'm just like, I
Speaker 2: just go.
Speaker 3: Here a superhero. I have to cut him off, y'all
Speaker 3: because he just doesn't know how to celebrate himself. But
Speaker 3: we have more a fight night to come.
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