WEBVTT - Chapter 5: Messages

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<v Speaker 1>MHM. Bridgewater is a production of I Heart Radio three

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<v Speaker 1>a full exposure listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and are you are? And and where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>And and and and yeah, and we're where are you?

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<v Speaker 1>H ahead? No? No, no, no no no add and here, Jeremy,

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<v Speaker 1>oh dare me over here? Man? Right here? Where where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck? Oh god, I didn't see it in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you hurt? No? Just a little bruised. That's the nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, help me up. Okay, okay, fine, fine, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a little wet, stupid swamp. What the hell happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I could and see in the dark, put

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<v Speaker 1>my foot down in the wrong place and just went down.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is this a sick hoole or an animals end

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<v Speaker 1>of some good? Maybe my trap someone set for us?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Oh, come on, it wasn't a deer

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<v Speaker 1>that slammed into us, Jeremy, there's somebody. What the I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know? Come on, m oh my god, it's the gathering.

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<v Speaker 1>So Olivia was right, Well, come on, let's go talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Don't move their hands. M hmm, that so harmless.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, where aren't they back yere? Wheren't they back yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Are yet? Chill man? They'll be fine and is a badass.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of Manson family want to bees, are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to scare her. Okay, last I checked, the Manson

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<v Speaker 1>family murdered a bunch of people. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The gathering is a bunch of whack jobs. You have

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<v Speaker 1>nothing better to do than spout nonsense and stand in

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<v Speaker 1>circles singing Kumbaya because you're such an expert by now

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I have spent the last hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half reading about them online. What how No, No, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not possible. I searched every conceivable database trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>reference to them and have come up with basically nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because you're looking at all that. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>legal places, something like that. Anyway, while you've been sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there with your cute little papers, you think you think

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<v Speaker 1>my papers are cute, I have been trawling every single

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<v Speaker 1>board and form popular with cultists. Oh, I've been reading

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<v Speaker 1>police files for your information. There's plenty of stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>there that's useful. Oh yeah, like what like like like

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that the gathering had an extremist offshoot

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies that believed in human sacrifice. They were

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<v Speaker 1>called the Children of Tichiva. Yeah, yep, I found them too. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I've only been able to find one or two references

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<v Speaker 1>in the period research I've done. After the mid eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no trace. But but you've found something in the

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<v Speaker 1>past two hours. Are you kidding? A fringe black magic

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<v Speaker 1>cult that believes in human sacrifice? That is internet catinet.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they saying? It's Latin? I'm pretty sure. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you speak Latin? No? One speaks Latin and no, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what they're saying. No, but neither do

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<v Speaker 1>you da? What the hell? What are they trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Who cares? They have a six ft bonfire

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of protected wetlands. Jeremy, did you did

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<v Speaker 1>you see that? Just see what in the fire? What

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<v Speaker 1>are they doing? They're heating their blades, change and change,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're coming toward us. Wait wait, wait, so are

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<v Speaker 1>you saying that the Children of Titchuba still exist? No? Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the gathering excommunicated those members. For lack

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<v Speaker 1>of a better word, I guess the main group wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>so interested in human sacrifice and realized how racist and

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<v Speaker 1>misguided the offshoot was because of the whole Salem witch

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<v Speaker 1>trial thing. Yeah, Titchuba was the first one to be

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<v Speaker 1>accused of witchcraft simply because she was a woman of

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<v Speaker 1>color and easy to blame. She wasn't a witch. She

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<v Speaker 1>was enslaved and abused and scapegoaded and jailed, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know how she died. And for a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of weirdos in the seventies to take her name and

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<v Speaker 1>apply it to their creepy goth cult is racist and

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<v Speaker 1>insulting and just playing wrong. Wow. That was Have you

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<v Speaker 1>been sitting here keeping that in for the past hour?

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<v Speaker 1>It drives me not it's probably a bunch of rich

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<v Speaker 1>board kids. You don't know a single thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the place they live. Oh well, that's not fair,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, they clearly knew a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>history if they decided to name their group after Chichiba.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you defending them? No, No, I'm not. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I get where you're coming from completely. My heritage has

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<v Speaker 1>been co opted and twisted, to believe me, but that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's not interesting At least academically. Whoever the

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<v Speaker 1>children of Chichiba were, they were clearly familiar with at

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<v Speaker 1>least basic Salem history. And we're trying to accomplish something

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<v Speaker 1>by invoking Tichiba's name. That's what I'm interested in. History

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<v Speaker 1>is written by the victors, which is why the Salem

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<v Speaker 1>Witches are still so maligned and misunderstood. Well, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad all that suffering can be your academic interest. It's

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<v Speaker 1>important the way history is told. When there's something complicated

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<v Speaker 1>and strange like the Salem witch trials, most people don't

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<v Speaker 1>even attempt to understand the nuances of it. Instead, the

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<v Speaker 1>myth survives. And that's what you study, the myth exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why not just study history then help people understand

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<v Speaker 1>the complicated pieces because stories are the easiest way to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. There's a reason the weird, incorrect legends survive.

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<v Speaker 1>They're easier to digest, more interesting to engage in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but as far as I'm concerned, Oh thank god, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where the hell have you guys been? And why are

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<v Speaker 1>you covered in dirt? Um? We found the gathering? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've what challenged you to a mud wrestling contest?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we would have one, considering they had

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<v Speaker 1>very big, scalding hot knives on them. Knives. Yeah, are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys okay? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, we're fine. We

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<v Speaker 1>got out of there really quick. Why you didn't stay

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to them, Well, we didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea, with being armed in us having recently

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<v Speaker 1>fallen down a lot, but we know that it is

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<v Speaker 1>not our only chance. What do you mean the leader?

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<v Speaker 1>I know her, Olivia. I'm gonna need you to find

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<v Speaker 1>an address. Look, I'm just saying that if you spend

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<v Speaker 1>all your time focusing on the legends, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>really missing the point of it all. Oh, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people ratshaw. Yeah, I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what we saw. Isn't that what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing now? You know what I mean? Not the gathering,

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<v Speaker 1>not the knives, the fire. What about the fire. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you saw it too. I could see the look

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<v Speaker 1>on your face. I was watching a cult have a

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<v Speaker 1>secret ceremony. I can't even imagine what my face was doing. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you and you saw the symbols in the flames.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the same ones that we saw on the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>But that sounds like a trick of the light, and

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention, we both bumped our heads. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and what about that huh? Who was in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>with us? All the gathering members? You know they were

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in white, right, so if one of them had

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<v Speaker 1>knocked us over, we would have seen it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no more like the shadow was chasing us,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and it was an animal. Why did you

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<v Speaker 1>call up for your dad? What I heard you? I

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<v Speaker 1>heard you call out for him. Did you hear something?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're talking about, Jeremy, you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go? Yeah? One sec? Well, anyway, things, why you

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<v Speaker 1>do debate? Sure thing, I'll see you around yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 1>see him monday, Okay, you will? I mean yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should go talk to Celeste together, right, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree? Okay? Good? Hey and Anne, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>what you really kept your cool tonight. That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not some shrinking violet Bradshaw. That's not what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Look, it's not what I do. I was terrified,

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<v Speaker 1>and even with all the insanity and being chased through

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<v Speaker 1>the woods and falling down into a sinkhole, you kept

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<v Speaker 1>your head and you got us out of there, so

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<v Speaker 1>just thank you. Well, you're welcome. So now can you

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<v Speaker 1>agree that you need to listen to me about all

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<v Speaker 1>of it? I think I think what we both need

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<v Speaker 1>is a good night's sleep. Sleep isn't going to make

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<v Speaker 1>this go away, Bradshaw, Well, it's worth a try. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a good night, Annah? Yeah, yeah, why are yet? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of looks like your place. What do you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>secluded near the woods, a bit of a creepy hermit vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>My house doesn't have a creepy hermit vibe. Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any neighbors, Anne, and it's not like we

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<v Speaker 1>live in the middle of nowhere. You really have to

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<v Speaker 1>look to final places secluded his years. Oh well, at

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<v Speaker 1>least I don't have wind chimes. I mean, how much

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<v Speaker 1>more cliche can you get? She's definitely got a very

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood witch feeling going here. Yeah. Hey, don't you think

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<v Speaker 1>we should bringing in the police on this because you

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<v Speaker 1>think they would listen? I just think I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We were almost attacked by burning knives last night and

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<v Speaker 1>this woman was at the center of it. She's not dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know? I interviewed her and I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good at reading people from you know, my decades in

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<v Speaker 1>the police force. But you interviewed her forty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's likely that things have changed since then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't change. Do you think she's going to remember you?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>how may I help you? Sorry to bother you, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jeremy Bradshaw is an beer. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember you, my How we've aged well? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about you, but I'm feeling pretty spry, almost like I

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<v Speaker 1>could run through a swamp in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Would you like to come in? Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the tea. It's very that's unique my own blend.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want any, Miss Becker. I don't typically drink

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<v Speaker 1>homemade bruise given to me by cultists. Yes, let's not

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<v Speaker 1>skate around while you're here. You said you came across

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<v Speaker 1>our little meeting last night. Yes, sorry to be so blunt.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't supposed to to see that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it lived up to your expectations, Miss Becker. From

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<v Speaker 1>what I told you about the gathering in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>you barely told me anything about the gathering. You were

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<v Speaker 1>a potential witness to a crime. Come now, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually believe that everyone else did, but you knew, you

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<v Speaker 1>knew that the gathering had nothing to do with any

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<v Speaker 1>of the dark happenings in Bridgewater at that time. You

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<v Speaker 1>knew we weren't Satanists. We still aren't. That doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're not messing with things that you shouldn't be. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly were you trying to invoke last night? We

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to speak to the other side? What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean? Do you know what hawk a mock swamp means?

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<v Speaker 1>And wappa knock the place where spirits d well. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like you, I actually have family members who are

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<v Speaker 1>wamping up. Don't presume to know my heritage, Miss Becker.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that why you were there? Because you believe there

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<v Speaker 1>are spirits? Hacka mock Swamp is just one of several

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<v Speaker 1>places we meet. I can't divulge the other locations free

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<v Speaker 1>times day for us, maybe Dighton Rock. I couldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>this entire area is ripe for communication. The veil is

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<v Speaker 1>thin here again? What does that mean? The Bridgewater Triangle,

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<v Speaker 1>as I believe you call it, is a bright spot,

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<v Speaker 1>a portal between worlds that attracts creatures of all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>looking to get to the other side, the other side. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what what is the other side? Well, it's the side

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't this one, okay? Meaning meaning what exactly? The

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<v Speaker 1>other side is many things, too many people. For some,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a demon realm, a place of fire and malice

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<v Speaker 1>and great and terrible power. Those are the groups that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has always been afraid of, Like the children of Tichuma. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>those awful people. I thought that they were part of

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<v Speaker 1>the gathering. We shared some members for a time, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>our philosophies were entirely different. The children of Titchuba, so

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<v Speaker 1>heinously named for a woman whose personhood has been already

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<v Speaker 1>dragged through the mud. Plenty believe that Bridgewater was a

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<v Speaker 1>doorway to hell. They believed that they could call in

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<v Speaker 1>the devil as the Salem, which is purportedly did and

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<v Speaker 1>gained unthinkable power. But just as they misunderstood history, they

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstood this area terribly. But you understand the area, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Well. No, that's an awfully arrogant thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me to say. I am but a mere mortal. I

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<v Speaker 1>could never truly understand all the secrets and magics that

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<v Speaker 1>this place holds. But I understand it better than most.

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<v Speaker 1>I am attuned and I take it. You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a doorway to help, No, I do not,

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a doorway for others. The other side

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<v Speaker 1>is the Faye Realm, the place where magic is real

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<v Speaker 1>and creatures of mischief rain. For some it's a wormhole,

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<v Speaker 1>a place to transport you through time and space. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the Gathering, it is none of those things, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. It is a doorway to everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>everything except how We don't believe in hell, but you

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<v Speaker 1>do believe in magic. We believe in energy, and we

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<v Speaker 1>believe that there are many mysteries in this world that

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<v Speaker 1>we simple humans will never be able to fully comprehend.

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<v Speaker 1>So then, what were you doing last night? What were

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<v Speaker 1>you channing? A parry? Ianuam venite ad open the door?

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<v Speaker 1>Let us here speak? Now what does that mean? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I just told you what What do those words mean

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<v Speaker 1>to you? The gathering is dedicated to communicating with the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, to would end. I can't tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a secret, or because you don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>goal at all. Hm. You don't believe in anything, do you? Jeremy, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I believe in I believe in science, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in what I can see with my own eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>But you say you're a folklore professor, and yet it

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<v Speaker 1>is clear to me that you don't have respect for

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<v Speaker 1>the gathering and our beliefs. No, no, please, I'm look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry if I offended you. I really don't honestly

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<v Speaker 1>have any problem with anyone believing anything as long as

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<v Speaker 1>they're not causing harm. We're not doing harm. The gathering

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<v Speaker 1>is a peaceful, spiritual group. Then why were you while

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<v Speaker 1>carrying burning hot knives last night? You were leaving your

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony to go further and just want to do God

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<v Speaker 1>knows what carvings, My dear, the knives were for carvings.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to communicate somehow. You were all there, So

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<v Speaker 1>who were you communicating with other members of similar groups

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<v Speaker 1>who might happen upon our doorway? As our future selves

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<v Speaker 1>are meeting. Places must constantly shift as the land shifts.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the twenty first century. Why not use I don't know, phones,

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<v Speaker 1>are signal or some other secure messaging. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>some of your members are using anonymized emails to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to each other online. So it's not like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>use technology. Well, some of our newer members prefer that

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<v Speaker 1>form of communication. Yes, but we are not only communicating

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<v Speaker 1>with those in the here and now Jeremy, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>mean you're also trying to talk to the other side

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<v Speaker 1>with with the carvings. That is correct, the forest, the swamp,

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<v Speaker 1>this entire region. It wants to speak to us, speak

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<v Speaker 1>for us. So you vandalized protected lands. It is in

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<v Speaker 1>vandals in its freedom of expression. Free speech doesn't cover

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<v Speaker 1>the facing state parks. I think you know a little

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<v Speaker 1>something about unconventional communication, miss Becker. What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>someone has been trying to communicate with you and with you, Jeremy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's desperate to talk. Excuse me, forgive me. I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out of turn. I think it's best for you to

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<v Speaker 1>to leave now. Oh we're not done talking. I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 1>we are, Miss Becker. I'm sorry. It couldn't be of

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<v Speaker 1>more help to you. You know, we could cause you

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<v Speaker 1>quite a lot of trouble. I don't think you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Last I checked, you were how do you put it?

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<v Speaker 1>Persona on grata with the police. I'm not sure they

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<v Speaker 1>listened to you. And even if they did, what exactly

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<v Speaker 1>would you be saying? You may have trespassed on a

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<v Speaker 1>very private meeting last night, but you didn't witness anything illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct your harming detective forests on swampland and the police

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<v Speaker 1>are suddenly so concerned with nature. You need to face reality.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have any power here. I had absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>reason to talk to you, and yet I did. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to indulge this any longer, not from

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't respect who I am or what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should go fine. We were appreciating your

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<v Speaker 1>time so list and I'm not trying to cause you

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<v Speaker 1>any trouble, I promise, But would you be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me more about the gathering? It would I

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<v Speaker 1>think makes some really wonderful local coverage for my book.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I'm not sure that's the wisest idea, Jeremy,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of mine. Please just consider it. I will if

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<v Speaker 1>you will consider opening your mind. There are a message

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<v Speaker 1>just Jeremy, your father? Did you know him? I just

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<v Speaker 1>the story. I just know the story. What do you mean? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>You need to leave? I wish you all the best,

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<v Speaker 1>keep an open mind. Wait, wait, the last well that

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<v Speaker 1>was a crop a nonsense. Well if it's such a nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>then why did you ask if you could talk more?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding? You were right? She's a wonderful cliche.

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<v Speaker 1>The windshimes were just the tip of the iceberg, So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't believe a word of it. I definitely believe

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<v Speaker 1>that she believes it. But that's why I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her more. The more research I do, the

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<v Speaker 1>more Vippin was dead on. This personal angle is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think my book is just about the legends

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<v Speaker 1>of this place. It's it's about the people too, and

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<v Speaker 1>what the legends mean to them. And Celeste, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>great example of the ways that all these myths mixed

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<v Speaker 1>in with the age of conspiracy, they've congealed into something

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<v Speaker 1>brand new, new myths, new ways of interacting with them.

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<v Speaker 1>What's so interesting? No offense, bread shob But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need the whole academic lecture here. I get that you're

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<v Speaker 1>excited about your tenure and you're publishing your deal or whatever. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my publishing deal isn't totally finalized, and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a slightly bigger picture here. She's hiding something.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not hiding something I don't think that woman is

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<v Speaker 1>capable of hiding anything. Now, whether she's been watching us

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<v Speaker 1>or is genuinely in tune with something that we're not,

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<v Speaker 1>I can be fairly certain it's not that she knows

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<v Speaker 1>things that she shouldn't, And I'm going to find out

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<v Speaker 1>how she knows, one way or another. Oh and what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? What does she know that the

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<v Speaker 1>unconventional means of communication that she was talking about mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>your father. Of course you mentioned my father. She's praying

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<v Speaker 1>on my vulnerability. Yes, yes, but she she was right.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know something about unconventional forms of communication. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? I got a voicemail from your father? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've got a lot of voicemails from my

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<v Speaker 1>father when you were working together. No, Jeremy, not when

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<v Speaker 1>he was alive. I got a message from him two

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<v Speaker 1>days ago. Bridgewater was created by Aaron Mankey and written

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<v Speaker 1>and directed by Lauren Shippen, with executive producers Aaron Manky,

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<v Speaker 1>Misha Collins, Matt Frederick and Alex Williams, supervising producer Trevor Young,

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<v Speaker 1>editing and sound designed by Trevor Young and Matt Stillo,

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<v Speaker 1>and music by Chad Lawson, starring Misha Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw,

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa Ponzio as An Becker, Karen Sony as Vipen Corona,

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<v Speaker 1>Lori Allen as Nancy Collins, Cheryl Umania as Officer Bautista,

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Grace as Katie Frank's Will Wheaton as Captain Haddock,

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Jonathan Joss as Joseph Hoskins,

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<v Speaker 1>Sabra May as Olivia Hoskins, Samuel Marty as Ethan Hoskins,

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Bauer as Celeste, and Nathan Fillion as Thomas Bradshaw,

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