1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is verdicuous center. Ted Cruz week in Review. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the big stories 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: that you may have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: First up, where are the Democrats on the issue of 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: hostages that are still being held by Hamas? And why 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: are they not talking about many of them that are Americans. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: It is months into this conflict and yet no one 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: seems to care. We're going to talk about that. Also, 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: CNN thought they knew what RFK Junior was going to 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: say about Donald Trump. It backfired in a big way, 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: and you're not going to want to miss what he 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: had to say about the biggest threat to democracy. It 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: was Joe Biden. And finally NBC and MSNBC, they united 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: the biggest hosts and the biggest talent to make sure 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: that the former RNC chairwoman was basically fired before she 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: ever got started in her new job. What's behind this? 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it all. It is the 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: weekend Review, and it starts right now, Senat you and 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: I want to go back in time because it's amazing 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: how quick people forget about what happened on that day. 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: I've met with the Israeli government independently. You've obviously met 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: with them and representatives countless times. You watched a long 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: version of the atrocities of that day. I have seen 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: more than I wanted to, but I think it was 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: important with the platform that I have to be an 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: advocate for Israel to see it and witness it. And 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: I saw it much more recently. I can't get those 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: images out of my head, just how orchestrated, how barbaric, 29 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: how evil the people were that were doing these things 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: to As we talked about children to the elderly, the 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: elderly is somewhat been overlooked. And I was watching some 32 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: of this, and you watch these elderly people. Not only 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: were they killing the grandfathers and great grandfathers in front 34 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: of the great grandmothers and their kids and grandkids, but 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: they were ripping them away and then taunting because they 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: were going to go after the women. And this was 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: all caught on video. And yet no one seems to 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: be reminding people that those are the hostages that are 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: still being held captive right now. 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: They are And where is America? Where is the president? 41 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: Where is a Democrat calling for the release of the 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: American hostages. By the way, these are not many of 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: them are Israelis, but there are multiple American hostages that 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: this White House A wall doesn't even begin. It's worse 45 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 2: than a wall. If they were silent, that would be disgraceful. 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: But they're not silent. They're telling Israel stop trying to 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: kill the terrorists. Instead, reward the terrorists and give them 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: a nation state that is stronger than it was before 49 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: and in a better position to wage war with Israel 50 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: into murder innocent civilians going forward. That is a bizarre 51 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: way to respond to a horrific atrocity carried out by. 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Hamas Jensaki, White House Press Secretary. She obviously and this 53 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: is when you know it's a coordinated and orchestrated effort 54 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: by talking heads, former White House pressingre terry, people in 55 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: the media, people in the State Department, people in social 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: media circles on the left, and celebrities and others. This 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: is what she had to say on Israel on MSNBC. 58 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, and Jen, it's very easy for people to say 59 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: the president should do a the president should do BC. 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: There is also the very real possibility, and he say, 61 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: understand this, if the president turns on met Yahoo to belief. 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: The President says, we're going to stop sending weapons that 63 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: met and Yahoo actually uses that to gain more power 64 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: inside of Israel, saying, see, we have been abandoned even 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: by the United States. 66 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: We have to fight on That's right, Joe, and I 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: think that's important too. 68 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: Look, clearly, the strategy that the United States is implementing 69 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 5: at this point is not working to change the behavior 70 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 5: of Prime Minister net Yahoo, is not working to end 71 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: the war. So obviously something has to change, and I 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 5: think it's pretty clear they're discussing that, I think in 73 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: the White House and I hope in the White House 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 5: in this situation room at this point in time. 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: The question is what that will be. 76 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: And there's a number of allies of President Biden's in 77 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: the Senate, Democratic senators and others who've been pretty outspoken 78 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: about the need for conditioning AID at least as a consideration. 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: That's obviously something that is being considered should be considered. 80 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: The question is will that change the behavior and what 81 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 5: additional leverage needs to be put on Prime Minister net 82 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 5: Yahoo at this point in time to change the trajectory. 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 5: But you're right, there's a calculation if you're discussing this, 84 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 5: if you're the president, if you're the national security team, 85 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 5: about what would prompt Prime Minister who to be more aggressive, 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 5: what would prompt him to be less aggressive. 87 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: Obviously nothing has worked to date. 88 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 5: But it's not as easy as it sounds to make 89 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 5: that determination. 90 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 6: Center. 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Not one time did she say anything about putting pressure 92 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: on Hamas the terrorist organization, or the Palestinian that are 93 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: supporting the terrorists to stop them. They don't care about Israel, 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: like Israel is the terrorist organization that started all this, 95 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: They were the ones that were attacked. 96 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: Look that they treat Israel as a client state. They 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: treat Israel as the oppressors, and understand the base of 98 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: their party believes Israel as their oppressors. And also get 99 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's some folks. There's a popular 100 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: media narrative that, hey, Joe Biden is really pro Israel, 101 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: but he's just got a political problem that his party 102 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: is not. That's actually not accurate. Joe Biden has been 103 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: undermining Israel for more than fifty years. Let's go back 104 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty two. Nineteen eight two was a long 105 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: time ago. Nineteen eighty two, Joe Biden was in the 106 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He had a private meeting with 107 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Man Knock and Began and Joe Biden 108 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: decided to do what he's doing now, to threaten Israel, 109 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: to threaten We're going to cut off usaid if Israel 110 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: did not stop quote settlements in Judaea and Samaria. So 111 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: it's frankly, the same thing he was saying in eighty 112 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: two is what he's saying now. We don't like Israel. 113 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: You don't have any right to settle the land of Israel, 114 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: and if you do, we're going to cut you off. 115 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: And here's what Began responded to. And this is one 116 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: of the most famous responses by any Israeli prime minister, 117 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: and it was in nineteen eighty two, so a long 118 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: long time ago. Here's what Began said to Joe Biden. 119 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: Then a senator quote, don't threaten us with cutting off 120 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: your aid. It will not work. I am not a 121 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: Jew with trembling knees. I am a proud Jew with 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: three thousand, seven hundred years of civilized history. Nobody came 123 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: to our aid when we were dying in the gas 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: chambers and ovens. Nobody came to our aid when we 125 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: were striving to create our country. We paid for it, 126 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 2: we fought for it, we died for it. We will 127 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: stand by our principles, we will defend them, and when necessary, 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: we will die for them again with or without your aid. 129 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: That's what the Prime Minister of Israel said to Joe 130 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: Biden over forty years ago. You know what, the Prime 131 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: Minister of Israel is still saying that to Joe Biden. 132 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: But sadly, the entire Democrat Party is with Biden, undermining 133 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Israel and effectively forming a protective shield around the hamas Terrace, 134 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: who committed the most unspeakable acts of modern times that 135 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: we have seen. 136 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Senat our last question for you, and it's a really 137 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: important one. If the Elizabeth Warrens the Democratic Party, and 138 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: if the aocs and Rashida Leeves and others are able 139 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: to flip the script the way it seems like we're 140 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: going with the help of the media, what happens if, 141 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: in fact, we don't give the a needed and the 142 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: military weaponry needed that Israel is willing to buy from 143 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: us because this president caves and blocks it. What happens 144 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to Israel? 145 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: Then well, listen, the Biden administration and the Democrats in 146 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: the Congress hope that Israel will give in, that they 147 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: want to number one undermine Benjamin net Yahu. And I'm 148 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: not listen, I'm not being partisan in this. I'm not 149 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: not intuiting or supposing this. Chuck Schumer said it on 150 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: the Senate floor. He said he wants Netanyahu to be 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: forced out of office. He wants Israel to have a new 152 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: election and for them to allot to prime minister whose 153 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 2: views he likes. And apparently the voters of Israel don't 154 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: have a right to choose their own leader. That it's 155 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: going to be the Democrats in Washington to choose that. 156 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: But look the White House and the Congressional Democrats, they 157 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: hope that by attacking Israel relentlessly, by threatening to cut 158 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: off money, by undermining their international support, that Israel will 159 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: get cold feet, that they will get weakknees, they will 160 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: stop attacking Hamas and in particular Rafa. Look, the Hamas leadership, 161 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists are all gathered in Rafa. Now, I'll 162 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: tell you I sat down doing a zoom call two 163 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: weeks ago with Prime Minister Netanyahu. He joined all the 164 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: Republican senators at our lunch. I can tell you two 165 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: weeks ago he was unequivocal. He said, we will go 166 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: to Rafa, we will enter Rafa, we will engage in 167 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: a military campaign, and we will utterly eliminate Hamas, and 168 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: if America is not there, we'll do it on our own. 169 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: To be honest, what Netanyahu said it was almost word 170 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: for word, web knock and Bagan said that has not changed. 171 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons. Listen, as a tech I've explained. 172 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: People have asked me a lot of times. They've said, 173 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: how is it? How did it come to pass that 174 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: a Cuban techxan Southern Baptist became the leading defender of 175 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: Israel in the Senate. And there are lots of reasons 176 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: for that, but I'll tell you one of the biggest 177 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: is the attitude of Israel. Israel is surrounded by nations 178 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: that would drive it into the sea, that would murder 179 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: every Israeli, every Jew if they could, and the only 180 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: reason they don't is because Israel is strong enough to 181 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: defeat them all. I got to say that is an 182 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: incredibly Texan foreign policy. It is a national security policy. 183 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: I have more than once wished that American foreign policy 184 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: could have the clarity and strength that Israel's does, and 185 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised that NATANYAHUO is saying the same 186 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: thing monach and began said forty plus years later, which 187 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: is Israel only survives because they could serve they are 188 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: not dependent on the large Yes, the welfare from Democrats 189 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: who are condescending to flick breadcrumbs from their table. But 190 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: I really do wonder Ben, is there one Democrat in 191 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: Congress with the guts to stand up to Biden and 192 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: say this is wrong. We stand with Israel, we stand 193 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: against Tamas, and all of the rest of this is garbage. 194 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: If they have I haven't seen it. 195 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: Now. 196 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 197 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 198 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Senator Finally, 199 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about our RFK Junior. CNN decide 200 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: to have him on, and they thought they were giving 201 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: him a softball question that was going to be easy, 202 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: and he's gonna rip on Donald Trump tee it up 203 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: from there because it didn't go the way they thought 204 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: it was going to go at all. 205 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. CNN tossed to RFK juniors a 206 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: question that they thought RFK would say, Oh, yes, Trump 207 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: is clearly the manifest threat to democracy and so you 208 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: really should vote for Joe Biden instead. Well, RFK did 209 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: not play along and listen to this exchange because CNN 210 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: was astonished at what RFK had to say. 211 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: I've done too many issues. 212 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 7: While I admire his high minded ideals, his suggestion that 213 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 7: there's no difference between mister Ware and mister Bush is irresponsible. 214 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 7: A moment ago, you said, you essentially see Trump and 215 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 7: Biden as. 216 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: Saying different different issues. 217 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 7: But do you really believe that when people talk about 218 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 7: the threat of democracy that Trump poses, do you really 219 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 7: think that that is an. 220 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 8: Equal Listen, I can make the argument that President Biden 221 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 8: is a much worse threat to democracy. And the reason 222 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 8: for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, 223 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 8: the first president history has used the federal agencies to 224 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 8: censor political speech. So the sensor his opponent. I you know, 225 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 8: I can say that because I just want a case 226 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 8: in the Federal Court of Appeals and now before the 227 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 8: Supreme Court. It shows that he started censoring not just me, 228 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 8: for thirty seven hours after he took the other office. 229 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 8: He was censoring me. No president in the country has 230 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 8: ever done that. The greatest threat democracy is not somebody 231 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 8: who questions election returns, but a president of the United 232 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 8: States who used the power of his office to force 233 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 8: the social media company's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter to open a 234 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 8: portal and give the access to that portal to the FBI, 235 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 8: to the CIA, the IRS, the SISA, the NIH to 236 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 8: censor his political critics. Becausident Biden for the first first 237 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 8: president of history to use the secret his power over 238 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 8: the Secret Service to deny Secret Service protection to one 239 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 8: of his political opponents for political reasons. He's weaponizing the 240 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 8: federal agency. Those are really critical. 241 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 7: Threatsource tried to overturn a free and fair election. 242 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 4: He tried to overturn one. 243 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 7: Right is he still finding How is that not a 244 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 7: threat to democracy? 245 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 8: Well, I think that is a threat to democracy. Him 246 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 8: of it were trying to overthrow the election. Clearly is 247 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 8: the threat democracy. But the question was who is the 248 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 8: worse threat to democracy? And what I would say is, 249 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 8: you know, I'm not going to answer that question, but 250 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 8: I can argue that President Biden is because the First 251 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 8: Amendment Aaron is the most important. But Adams and Hamilton 252 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 8: and Madison said, we put the guarantee of freedom expression 253 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 8: in the First Amendment because all of our other constitutional. 254 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: Rights depend on it. 255 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 8: If you have a government that can silence its opponent, 256 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 8: it has license for any atrocity. 257 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: So, just to be clear, you're saying you could make 258 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 7: an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy. 259 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Then you listen to that a senator and it's like 260 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: they're like, well, I will whoa, this is not what 261 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: you're supposed to say. This is not you were supposed 262 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: to say Donald Trump orange Man's bad and a threat 263 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: to democracy. Obviously you weren't supposed to say Joe Biden's 264 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: actually a bigger threat. And by the way, explain exactly 265 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: how he is. 266 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Warning Will Robinson warning Will Robinson, danger danger danger Aboart 267 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: run away, run away. That's what CNN is saying. They're 268 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: losing their minds. No, No, that that's not the message. 269 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: The only message we allow on CNN is Trump bad, 270 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: Trump bad, Trump bad. You're RFK jor your dad was RFK, 271 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: your uncle was JFK. You're supposed to echo our message 272 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Trump orange man bad, orange man bad. Look I got 273 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: to say listening to that. I agree with every single word. 274 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Robert F. 275 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: Kennedy Jr. Said right there. When it comes to a 276 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: threat to democracy, number one, Joe Biden and for that matter, 277 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: congressional Democrats are perfectly happy to use government power and 278 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: big tech to censor you, to silence you, to prevent 279 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: you from engaging in political speech, to prevent you from 280 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: disagreeing with them. They want to use force to silence you. Secondly, 281 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: he pointed out, Joe Biden is disgracefully denying Robert F. 282 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior Secret Service protection that despite the fact that 283 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: he is clearly pulling at the thresholds that would bear 284 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: at that protection, that he is facing significant threats of 285 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: political violence against him, and the tragic family history. His 286 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: father was assassinated when he was running for president, his 287 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: uncle was assassinated when he was president, and Joe Biden 288 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: and the Democrats are cynical enough that they're willing to 289 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: risk well, okay, if our FK Junior gets assassinated, that's 290 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: a risk Joe Biden's willing to take. It is disgraceful, 291 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: and we've called that out on this podcast before that, 292 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: of course, Joe Biden should give our FK Secret Service protection. 293 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: That's following the law, that is consistent with the law, 294 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: it's consistent with precedent, and the only reason not to 295 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: is pure partisan politics. Let me say something else. Look, 296 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: I have conversations with people all the time. I had 297 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: conversations with people today where they make comments about, Gosh, 298 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm worried if Trump wins. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator. 299 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: I'm worried what he will do. And you know, my 300 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: standard response is listen, I understand that. And sometimes Trump 301 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: has rhetoric that can be used to suggest that. That 302 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: being said, we don't have to hypothesize what Trump will 303 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: do as president. He was president for four years and 304 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: if you look at the time he was president, he 305 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: didn't abuse his power. He followed the law. If you 306 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: look at the policies he implemented, and I worked hand 307 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: in hand with Donald Trump, the policies he implemented worked. 308 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: We saw the lowest unemployment race in fifty years. We 309 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: saw the lowest African American unemployment ever recorded. We saw 310 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: the lowest Hispanic employment ever recorded. We saw peace and prosperity, 311 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: we saw the border secured, we saw peace breaking out 312 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and the Abraham Accords. All of 313 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: that played out. And if you look at what Trump did, 314 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: he didn't defy the law. He didn't ignore the law. 315 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: He didn't issue lawless executive orders. He followed the law. Now, 316 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: he demonstrated courage. He made decisions that were bold, but 317 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: they were within the law. Contrast that to Joe Biden. 318 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden number one is responsible for profoundly politicizing the 319 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: Department of Justice of the FBI. Number two is responsible 320 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: for the greatest assault on democracy we've ever seen, which 321 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: is the four indictments of Donald Trump, the abuse of 322 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: the legal process designed. Mind you, Trump is not the target, 323 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: the voters of the target. They're terrified the voters will 324 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: vote for Trump, and they're trying to prosecute for the 325 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: first time in history, and the second time in history, 326 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: and the third time in history, and the fourth time 327 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: in history, a former president and a leading presidential candidate 328 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: because they want to stop democracy from playing out. To 329 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: be clear, also, these are the same Democrats that in Colorado, 330 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: in Illinois and Maine threw Donald Trump off the ballot 331 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: because you know, nothing says defending democracy like stopping the 332 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: damn voters from voting. For the person you don't want 333 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: them to. This is Democrats. And let's be clear also, 334 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: Joe Biden when it comes to being a dictator to 335 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: being lawless. Look at what he's doing on the southern border. 336 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: He's utterly ignoring federal immigration law. He's releasing people into 337 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 2: this country. He's releasing criminals into this country. He's endangering 338 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: this country ten point four million illegal immigrants. It is lawless. 339 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: No president has ever done this. Barack Obama didn't do this. 340 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton didn't do this. Jimmy Carter didn't do this. 341 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: Only Joe Biden is brazenly lawless. Let's be clear also 342 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: when it came to student loans, Joe Biden trying to 343 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: buy votes, tried to give away trillion dollars a trillion 344 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: dollars just in an effort to buy votes and win elections. Now, 345 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: a president can't give away a trillion dollars without Congress 346 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: passing legislation to do so. Joe Biden knows that the 347 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: lawyers and his administration know that they didn't care. They 348 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: wanted to lawlessly be political. And so, of course what 349 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: happened to the Supreme Court struck it down and said no, 350 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: the president doesn't have the ability to give away a 351 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: trillion dollars just to buy votes. By the way, same 352 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: thing happened with COVID vaccine mandates, utterly lawless, abusive, trying 353 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: to force people to get COVID vaccines. The president had 354 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: no authority to do it. Biden administration did so anyway, 355 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: what happened. The Supreme Court struck it down, said this 356 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: is lawless, this is not the federal law. You look 357 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: at who actually has been lawless and dictatorial? And I 358 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: agree with RFK, there's a powerful argument. The answer to 359 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: that is Joe Biden and not Donald Donald J. Trump, 360 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: And that makes CNN and every other corporate media entity 361 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: their heads explode. 362 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 363 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 364 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: now the pod casts from earlier this week to hear 365 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: the entire thing. I want to get back to the 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: big story, number three of the week you may have missed. Finally, Senator, 367 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about saying that happened this 368 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: last week, and it was a story that was I 369 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: was even shocked by it. The former RNC chairwoman was 370 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: hired by NBC News to become a commentator slash NBC News. 371 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: She was hired, It came out, and what ended up 372 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: happening was virtually every name that was a host of 373 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: a show, a big talent at NBC, including Met, the 374 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: press said we're not going to work with her, she's 375 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: a radical Trump extremist. January sixther We're not going to 376 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: work with her. And they literally ripped her on air 377 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: in a way that I didn't even think they would do, 378 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: but they did it. And here's a montage of just 379 00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: how bad. 380 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 9: It was joined by former r and C chair Roni 381 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 9: McDaniel in her first interview since stepping down as party chair. 382 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 9: In full disclosure to our viewers, this interview was scheduled 383 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 9: weeks before it was announced that McDaniel would become a 384 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 9: paid NBC News contributor. This will be a news interview 385 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 9: and I was not involved in her hiring. 386 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 10: I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting 387 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 10: you in this situation. And look, there's a reason why 388 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 10: there's a lot of journalists at NBC News uncomfortable with this, 389 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 10: because many of our professional dealings with the RNC over 390 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 10: the last six years have been met with catilighting, have 391 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 10: been met with characters fascination. 392 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if 393 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: we were, we would have strongly objected to it. 394 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 6: At NBC News, either wittingly or unwittingly, is teaching election 395 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 6: deniers that what they can do stretches well beyond appearing 396 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 6: on our air and interviews to pedal lies about the 397 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: sanctity and integrity of our elections so that they can 398 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 6: do that as one of us, as badge carrying employees of. 399 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: NBC News, there is an easy way to avoid the 400 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: controversy NBC News has stumbled into. 401 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: Don't hire anyone close to the crimes. 402 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 7: She literally backed an illegal scheme to steal an election 403 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 7: in the. 404 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: State of Mission. 405 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 5: That is the type of experience that Ronald McDaniel brings 406 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 5: to the table, and that experience does not get us 407 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 5: to a deeper understanding of anything in the public debate. 408 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 11: I want to associate myself with all my colleagues, both 409 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 11: at MSNBC and at NBC News who have voiced loud 410 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 11: and principled objections to our company putting on the payroll 411 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 11: someone who hasn't just attacked us as journalists, but someone 412 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 11: who is part of an ongoing project to get rid 413 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 11: of our system of government. 414 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Senator that was clearly orchestrated by the talent. They were 415 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: not going to work with her, and they were going 416 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: to ruin her career before it even started. 417 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, look, NBC News sadly is a joke MSNBC News. 418 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: It would be a joke if anyone watched it. But 419 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: it's just sort of a left wing primal scream and 420 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: the utter hypocrisy of everyone else. So much of this 421 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 2: was started by Chuck Todd, and Chuck Todd had this 422 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: whole screed, this self righteous holier than the nou screed 423 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: that he did on Meet the Press. Now, here's an 424 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: interesting bit you may not know. Do you know how 425 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: Chuck Todd got his start? How was that as a 426 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: staffer in nineteen ninety two for the presidential campaign of 427 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat. So Chuck Todd was a 428 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: Democrat staffer on a presidential campaign. Mind, you're not just 429 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: in passing. But let's go back to Chuck Todd's predecessor, 430 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: Tim Russert. Tim Russer the gold standard of Meet the Press, 431 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: the gold standard of NBC News. Did you know what 432 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: Tim Russer did before he went NBC. 433 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on a lem and say a 434 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: Democratic staffer. 435 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: He worked for US Senator Daniel Patrick Moore, a Democrat 436 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: from New York. He served as special counsel to Daniel 437 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: Patrick boynihan. He served as chief of staff to Daniel 438 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Patrick Boynihan, and then in nineteen eighty three he became 439 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: a top aid to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, also 440 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: a Democrat. So he was a senior Democrat staffer over 441 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: and over again for multiple Democrats, and then he went 442 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: to NBC News. Let's fast forward George Stephanopolis. Where did 443 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: George Stephanopolis make his name as a senior press hack 444 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: for the Clinton White House? He was a political staffer 445 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: his entire life. By the way, he's the premier political 446 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: commentator at ABC now. And let's not forget Jensaki happily 447 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: ensconced at MSNBC. She was, of course Joe Biden's White 448 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: House press secretary. She stood up there and spin, baby spin, 449 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: baby spin, and she got hired basically straight from the 450 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: White House, where she continues to do the same job. 451 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: She is still, as far as I'm concerned, the White 452 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: House Press secretary she's actually a much better press secretary, 453 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: thank Karee John Pierre. Why because Kreen John Pierre is 454 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: not very good at her job. All she does is lie. 455 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: To Sak's credit, she actually rarely directly lied. She just pivoted, 456 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: she circled back, she spun, but she rarely made flat out, 457 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: demonstrably provable falsehoods, whereas Karan John Pierre seems to do 458 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: so on an almost daily basis. But the entirety of that, understand, 459 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: The position of NBC is, essentially, we cannot tolerate an 460 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: actual Republican who works for us. And by the way, 461 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: there were a few folks who got online and they said, no, no, no, 462 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Because 463 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: Nicole Wallace is on MSNBC and she was a Republican staffer, 464 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: and Joe Scarborough he was a Republican congressman. Well that's true. 465 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: They were in a prior life Republicans. But both Nicole 466 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: Wallace and Joe's Garber voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. 467 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: So the position of NBC News is we cannot actually 468 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: hire anybody who voted for Donald Trump as long as 469 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: you vote for Democrats. You could have been a Republican 470 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: long in your distant life, but you must have abandoned 471 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: half of the country and decided they're evil deplorables. Those 472 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: are the only people we are willing to hire. 473 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to MSNBC and NBC News as you described it. 474 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: And again I'm not a big person advocating or supporting, 475 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: like oh, sue somebody, but I hope she gets a 476 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: big payday the way they treat her. And apparently she 477 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: found out she was fired through media reports, not even 478 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: from a phone call from NBC News. I hope that 479 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: she gets a huge payout from this. She deserves every 480 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: dime after watching her colleagues run her name through the 481 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: mud the way they did and treat her the way 482 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: they did so. 483 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: And let me make an important point on this. So 484 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: MSNBC has a niche as a hard left netwe that's 485 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: why they have so few viewers. But they're hard left. 486 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. Why does NBC, I mean 487 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: and and NBC pretends to actually be a real journalistic outfit. 488 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 2: Why do they have a subsidiary that is just a 489 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: hard left platform. By the way, they all decry Fox News, 490 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: but MSNBC is hard left unapologetically so. And by the way, 491 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: you know what the MS stands for Microsoft. Why exactly 492 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: is Microsoft funding hard left propaganda? Why is NBC? Why 493 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: are they okay with a network that has an explicit 494 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: ideological agenda. And one of the points to understand it 495 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: was NBC News that that hired Ron McDaniel. And and 496 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to make the case to you there is 497 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: no difference between MSNBC and NBC. They are one and 498 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: the same. NBC no longer pretends to be journalists. They 499 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: are advocate hits. They are in MSNBC. They are the 500 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: left wing of the Democrat Party. There's a reason, by 501 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: the way, in the last presidential cycle they were thrown 502 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: out of moderating because they're so hardcore and partisan. Now, 503 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: I guess somebody in their corporate leadership decided they wanted 504 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: to at least have a nod of having somebody on 505 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: the staff who had voted with half of the country. 506 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: But let me ask you, Ben So, you actually have 507 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 2: been a paid conservative at a left wing network at CNA, 508 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: you were paid for a number of years. What was 509 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: that like then? And give us your perspectives from having 510 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: been in Rana's shoes. Although at a different time. 511 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: It's funny that you asked us because I was doing 512 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: out Numbered, hosting out Numbered on I think it was 513 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday when this story broke and they came to me. 514 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: They're like, look, you've got an insting perspective. I said, yeah, 515 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 1: I was hired for My contract was extended when I 516 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: was at sen and I was there total of seven years, 517 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: but the last year was just and this is how 518 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: much it even changed. At CNN. They used to want 519 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: when they when Jeff Zucker took over a Grand Debate, 520 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: they wanted conservatives to have people that they thought were 521 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: well representing them so that consertives wouldn't, you know, basically 522 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: immediately skip over the channel. One Stunnald Trump. One in 523 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: sixteen Wills came off at CNN. They hated him. They 524 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: hated and they yelled and screamed and tried to turn 525 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: you into bigot, racist homophobes, NFOI everything they could and 526 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: try to ruin your career when you were on because 527 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: they couldn't yell at Trump, but they could yell at 528 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: you and you were supporting Trump or defending Trump. But 529 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: in the last year that I was there, they hired 530 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: me just to have my name on a piece of 531 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: paper as it get out a free jail card. When 532 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: someone said you guys have no conservatives, and they would 533 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: say no, no, no, no no. Look over here, we have 534 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson. In my last year, I did two appearances 535 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: on CNN. Now that's absurd from a financial standpoint. If 536 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: you were a financial person, why would you hire a 537 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: guy a salary and only have him come to work 538 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: two days out of three hundred and sixty five days 539 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: in a year. One of those two appearances was after 540 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Reporter Today's story about me being benched, and 541 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: then they put me on the next day on a Saturday, 542 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: for four minutes just to say no, se he's not benched. 543 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: We just used him today and then never used me again. 544 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: And with Ronald McDowell, I have to say with her, 545 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: I think that's part of what they wanted. They wanted 546 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: to go into this election cycle saying, yes, we've got 547 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: a token concern. This lady just ran the RNC. See 548 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: we're not biased. We've got her on the air as always. 549 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, 550 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal with my podcast, 551 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: and you can listen to my podcast every other day 552 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: you're not listening to Verdict, or each day when you 553 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to have you as 554 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: a listener to again the Ben Ferguson Podcasts, and we 555 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: will see you back here on Monday morning.