Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you. Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Last culture resta is calling.
Speaker 1: Look at my sister beaming in the like, excuse me.
Speaker 1: I have this little mini clip on panel that's that's
Speaker 1: your eyes. But you have star quality and when you
Speaker 1: smile reminds everyone of happiness. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I do. I don't know about that, okay, because I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like maybe this is this is Monday.
Speaker 1: This is Monday brain. But are you do you have
Speaker 1: Monday brain? I've got Monday brain. I had a sorry
Speaker 1: to be a millennial I had I had the Sunday
Speaker 1: is scary? What happened on Sunday? Nothing? Nothing happened on Sunday.
Speaker 1: It was just that that that like the anxiety thing
Speaker 1: of like lying in bed on on Sunday night. Oh no,
Speaker 1: and I this is so hack. We can't talk about it.
Speaker 1: I just didn't sleep well last Nay. And so of
Speaker 1: course today I'm like, I don't know if anything's right.
Speaker 1: It's because you were partying yesterday party of Stories. I
Speaker 1: saw you at the Tide thing. I saw you Joel
Speaker 1: Joel Kim Booster wanted to go for a couple of
Speaker 1: hours we said yes, Joel. Joel told us to go,
Speaker 1: and then as we left, he said, um. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: at least that was safe, and he goes, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like outdoor transmission isn't not a thing? And I
Speaker 1: was like, then, why did you tell me to go
Speaker 1: to the damn party? Well, now you have to be
Speaker 1: quarantined because you have the big film coming up. I
Speaker 1: have the big film coming up. Yeah I did. I
Speaker 1: did realize today. I was like, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: perm it up. Yeah, batting down the hatches. I'm coming
Speaker 1: to New York for an undisclosed reason, and I'm also
Speaker 1: going to be quarantined. I love that. And I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna sort of be there for undisclosed reason which is
Speaker 1: sort of not been announced, and I'll be quarantining myself,
Speaker 1: but I will see my sister. Are you excited to
Speaker 1: see me? How much one through ten? It is? The
Speaker 1: meter is a oh can do you see the meter?
Speaker 1: I'm showing you the meter right now on the zoom meter.
Speaker 1: The dial is fucked up. Food bar as they would say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, shaking our guest, shake your head because
Speaker 1: of food bar, Because well I'm excited to see you
Speaker 1: too very much, and excited to come back to New York.
Speaker 1: I feel like I just got back to l a
Speaker 1: world wind trip back to New York, and here we go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna be New Yorkers together. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know, I I think New York might be might
Speaker 1: be over soon. I think New York would be done.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You have to stay there for so long
Speaker 1: as a cast member of the big show that takes
Speaker 1: place there. So how do you feel about being in
Speaker 1: such a dead fucking city, as per your own words?
Speaker 1: I don't because I'm telling you, I'm like depressed on
Speaker 1: a Monday. I think I lolome to being a millennial
Speaker 1: faga I was speaking of that I got. We have
Speaker 1: to check in on on on Matt. Current events are
Speaker 1: happening as we speak, we speak, and fucking Matt Damon's
Speaker 1: only realized a couple of months ago, in the year
Speaker 1: of our Lord One. You can't say faggot because he
Speaker 1: said it at a dinner table as a joke and
Speaker 1: his daughter was mortified. He said, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: I said it on and stuck on you And we're
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to think that that's like an okay
Speaker 1: reason talking about Stuck on You, like it's like Broke
Speaker 1: Back Mountain, Like it's a document we have to look
Speaker 1: back on and say, like, yes, this, this point's true North,
Speaker 1: Like it's the movie Stuck on You. Just because you
Speaker 1: said it and the movie stuck on You, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you can say it now. I think it.
Speaker 1: The only way it would have been okay for him
Speaker 1: to bring up stuck on You would have been to
Speaker 1: say Greg Kenear and I had anal sex. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can say it. And I've been like, yes, you can't
Speaker 1: say it. Had him and Greg Knear when they sort
Speaker 1: of got their prosthetic off because they famously played and
Speaker 1: joined twins in the movie. Yes, this is a movie
Speaker 1: that he held up in high regard, and he did
Speaker 1: play conjoined twins with Greg Emir. I mean, had they
Speaker 1: fucked on the movie set, and that's been part of
Speaker 1: the sort of discussion at the dinner table. Then he
Speaker 1: could say it all he wants. You have you have
Speaker 1: Azalea Banks rights. You can say it, Azalia Banks rights.
Speaker 1: So that's actually a really culture number one. Azalia Banks
Speaker 1: rights means you well, gosh, I mean, we don't really
Speaker 1: have to discuss that we would flopped by on a behavior. Well,
Speaker 1: we hope that Mr Damon, you know, we give him
Speaker 1: an entrepremental space to learn and grow, and I hope
Speaker 1: you know in this little I mean, but in that piece,
Speaker 1: I guess like that the guy who wrote that that
Speaker 1: profile or whatever it was, opens with you know, he
Speaker 1: Matt Damon's candor is that he says things that are
Speaker 1: like he kind of rattles things off as if to
Speaker 1: you know, make a headline. He's kind of like, sure, no,
Speaker 1: I no, it's it's it's whatever I mean. But it's
Speaker 1: just I think we just give him this time now
Speaker 1: to hopefully I don't want to say learn and grow
Speaker 1: because they feel like that's just not that those words
Speaker 1: have been um rendered meaning less maybe since last summer.
Speaker 1: But we we we wish, we wish him the best. Truly,
Speaker 1: all he had to do was say nothing or just
Speaker 1: be like make jokes about Ben Affleck and and j
Speaker 1: Lo and like things would have been fine. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing about Matt Damon. He constantly speaks out of turn,
Speaker 1: like no one asked for him to say this. He
Speaker 1: kind of just offered it, just like no one at
Speaker 1: like he remember when he sort of fell for that
Speaker 1: trick that the reporter was it was like in the
Speaker 1: midst of me too, and this one reporter was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so in time I love such a such a time,
Speaker 1: a whirlwind culture shift, you know, And so remember when
Speaker 1: he sort of fell for that reporter being like, so
Speaker 1: in your opinion, what me too is our well what
Speaker 1: what men should we be? Like let him off and
Speaker 1: what men should we be? Like? Oh no, what they
Speaker 1: did was really bad? And he did literally be like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein's bad, but like this person is not so bad,
Speaker 1: but this person is bad. Like he literally like went
Speaker 1: in like as if we wanted to hear from him.
Speaker 1: He totally fell for it. So I just think, like,
Speaker 1: just just don't talk as much, Like you didn't need
Speaker 1: to say faggot, this is this is something that we
Speaker 1: all can learn from. We can all just do less.
Speaker 1: We need new celebrities. I think I've been saying it
Speaker 1: for years. I think we need new all new celebrities.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think about like who we've been talking about
Speaker 1: for so long, and I'm like, we need a new
Speaker 1: slate of famous people. I'm done. I I can't talk
Speaker 1: about these people anymore. Our guest is absolutely raving. I
Speaker 1: offer up our guests as one of the culture makers
Speaker 1: new celebrity, new celebrity, literally new face. We have to
Speaker 1: congratulate the US on getting JFL new faces for stand up. Well,
Speaker 1: I want to hear all about how it went. I
Speaker 1: want to hear all about how it went okay, and
Speaker 1: then and then you must everyone must watch her new
Speaker 1: visual feast especial if you want to call it that,
Speaker 1: it's hard to categorize. And that is what our guest
Speaker 1: does so well. It's called the Sarabac Team. It's on
Speaker 1: Means TV work, her own streaming service. We love that.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that Megan McCain dragged Kathy Griffin today?
Speaker 1: Our producer Megan McCoy dragged I just but did you
Speaker 1: see the news that she like dragged Kathy Griffin today?
Speaker 1: Because well, Kathy Griffin she has cancer, and so they
Speaker 1: brought that up on the view and Megan McCain said,
Speaker 1: I think it's terrible that she has cancer. One time
Speaker 1: she made fun of my best friend who's like my brother,
Speaker 1: Clay Akin, for being gay, and this was like it
Speaker 1: really hurt him and her best friend well, Clay Akin
Speaker 1: is Megan McCain's best friend, so she says. So. Then
Speaker 1: after all that, Clay posted a photo of Cathy Griffin
Speaker 1: and him on Twitter like hugging, and he was like
Speaker 1: love Kathy Griffin, nothing but light and support. And one
Speaker 1: time she even hosted a charity for me, and like,
Speaker 1: I just thought it was so funny, like two women
Speaker 1: are fighting over Clay Aiken in this in this year
Speaker 1: of our Lord. I think I think Heathy Griffin isn't
Speaker 1: fighting with anyone I should. I think she simply came
Speaker 1: out and announced that she has lung cancer, and I
Speaker 1: think all we needed to do with support her. But
Speaker 1: that's not what our producer Megan McCain did. She said,
Speaker 1: sad that she has cancer. But I don't like her
Speaker 1: because one time, twenty years ago, she dragged my friend
Speaker 1: Clay Aiken for being gay, which is like, hello, fun
Speaker 1: was her last day when I thought it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be Friday, but apparently she's back this week. And
Speaker 1: then Mary Trump came on to promote her new book
Speaker 1: and Megan McCain sat out the interview, and Mary Trump
Speaker 1: called her out on are for being a coward and
Speaker 1: not wanted to do the interview with her. So there
Speaker 1: was drama today, even in Megan McCain's last week. I
Speaker 1: think Megan is Megan is part of the people who
Speaker 1: just need to be replaced celebrity. So you do agree,
Speaker 1: we all we need all these celebrities. I didn't disagree
Speaker 1: when you when you mentioned that earlier, you were hesitant. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. I proposed I yes and did even
Speaker 1: you can do with comedy the best thing you're gonna
Speaker 1: do in comedies. It's a real culture. It's really culture
Speaker 1: number seven, the best thing you can do. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and and when I yes and did you, I said,
Speaker 1: our guest deserves to be in the new slate, on
Speaker 1: the new roster. Just such such a fantastic multi talented
Speaker 1: artist of visual art, genius, practical gore body, horror savant um.
Speaker 1: Please check out the Saravaccine on means tv UM and
Speaker 1: JFL new Face, Powerhouse, powerhouse performer and part of the
Speaker 1: wonderful collective health Trap Nightmare. They just moved from Chicago
Speaker 1: to l A. We're so happy to have her. Everyone,
Speaker 1: Please welcome. Say eras O, you're laughing at my ass off,
Speaker 1: I see you. I didn't see you make a peep.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I thought you were frowning and judging. I
Speaker 1: was whooping and hollering, whooping, hollering. It's literally a front
Speaker 1: runner of the title about literally, do you play basketball? Really? Not?
Speaker 1: Remember day in my hoof you seem like you could
Speaker 1: play ball. You seem like you could ball. You really do?
Speaker 1: Because have six ft one Yeah? Never never. You act
Speaker 1: like you've never seen the girl. She stands at five
Speaker 1: ft seven. I'm gonna say, am I am? I correct
Speaker 1: nice for you to say it is five ft five,
Speaker 1: but I do find myself more imposing than five ft five.
Speaker 1: I remember you as like a five nine girl. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, I remember you being a little taller than me,
Speaker 1: or you know, you made me feel small, which is
Speaker 1: what every game man wants to feel. And I'm annoying,
Speaker 1: so my energy shoot upwards. You have a you have
Speaker 1: a resonant, annoying energy that goes right through your head.
Speaker 1: I have the same thing. Hello, do you think you
Speaker 1: you I self identify as annoying. Absolutely, I'm trying. I
Speaker 1: think we should proclaim the title. Oh that's that's so powerful, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like I walk into a room and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be piste off in ten minutes because I'm here. But
Speaker 1: you're able to, like you're able to like refract it
Speaker 1: through like a little prism that you're like you're self
Speaker 1: aware of, and like it comes up as like, oh,
Speaker 1: but she's like cool, like she like she can do
Speaker 1: like she can she can challenge that this voice or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's like the Sarah squirm, Like,
Speaker 1: you know what, cool annoying girl. It's honestly so nice
Speaker 1: of you to say. But then when someone is performing
Speaker 1: annoying and they're self aware of it, it almost makes
Speaker 1: you chaotic evil because you know how annoying you're being,
Speaker 1: and yet nevertheless she persists, you don't you don't use
Speaker 1: your powers for good, you in fact inflicted on the
Speaker 1: people watching. I think all three of us can be
Speaker 1: called empoweringly annoying. We can. It's it's like, I I'm
Speaker 1: okay with being annoying. What's the what do you all?
Speaker 1: What do you both think is the most annoying thing
Speaker 1: about you? If you're to self examine first, I fucking
Speaker 1: use like awful vocabulary words like sah t, words that
Speaker 1: no one above the age of seventeen should ever use.
Speaker 1: That's my disease. I think I'm annoying because I often
Speaker 1: make things about myself and um feel the need to
Speaker 1: perform at all times and what would be considered relentlessly
Speaker 1: um uh, sort of needing to be the center of attention.
Speaker 1: So that's okay, I've follow up to that. But okay, interesting, Sarah,
Speaker 1: what about you? I would say that I'm annoying because
Speaker 1: I need to look like a clown who just hopped
Speaker 1: right out the clown car all times, all eyes on
Speaker 1: me in the center of a ring, just like, what's
Speaker 1: your follow up? My follow up is, Okay, how do
Speaker 1: you guys feel about this statement? From like like uh,
Speaker 1: someone who comes in and is like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you guys do too many bits. It's like it's hard
Speaker 1: to hang out around comedy people because it's all the time.
Speaker 1: I think we've been on I think we've all been
Speaker 1: on both sides of that though, right, Like we've all
Speaker 1: been in a rumor like this is too much, I
Speaker 1: don't like this, and then we've all been on the
Speaker 1: side of it where it's like we're doing we're engaging
Speaker 1: in the bit to read, right, Yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: I've definitely. Like I used to date someone who often
Speaker 1: was not comfortable around the comedian group of friends because
Speaker 1: there was a lack of I guess, genuine conversation or
Speaker 1: like maybe it was kind of taking over and I
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, but sometimes sometimes you got to
Speaker 1: just go for it to entertain yourself. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I when people are like I, I the one person
Speaker 1: who was left out of this didn't feel right about it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, then maybe this isn't the space for you,
Speaker 1: right that. If I feel left out of something, I'll
Speaker 1: be like, cool, I'm not going to do that again.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't say. I have noticed there
Speaker 1: are people who run their stage bits on you and conversation.
Speaker 1: That's awful. I hate that. And you can tell because
Speaker 1: it's like a little too built out and the references
Speaker 1: are a little two pointed and they're positive for laughs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're holding a microphone at the restaurant. I think it's
Speaker 1: fine if someone's doing a bit and then they discover
Speaker 1: something and then later you see it on stage. But
Speaker 1: if you've sort of seen it on stage and then
Speaker 1: it happens to you in real life, that's spooky. That's
Speaker 1: that's like scary. That's really tough. Ever been at a
Speaker 1: show and someone's performing and they're like, so I was
Speaker 1: talking about my friend the other day and then blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah x y z And then you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm the friend from the other day. Oh chilling. Um,
Speaker 1: that is chilling. You have goose bumps. You're pointing to
Speaker 1: your damn arm, damn arm, and you guys want to
Speaker 1: know what goose bumps is in French and I think
Speaker 1: it's so fucking cool. Oh my god. He's like sort
Speaker 1: of circling back to the thing he said about himself
Speaker 1: that is annoying and bravely going there. No, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a vote. Now I'm talking about like s a
Speaker 1: T words. This is a French translate. This is another language,
Speaker 1: so it's totally different. It's not annoying entertainment in France
Speaker 1: because growing up you would read goose Bumps and then
Speaker 1: you read the French version in Canada and in Quebec
Speaker 1: and it would be che the pool. But speaking of Montreal,
Speaker 1: Sarah tell us all about the wonderful festival just for laughs. Well,
Speaker 1: your girl Sarah did the festival just for laughs. In
Speaker 1: Los Angeles in a room full of own the industry people,
Speaker 1: and after I got on stage, every comedian came up
Speaker 1: to me and said, it looked like you did fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: If there's sort of five, did you go over? In fact,
Speaker 1: we haven't performed in a while. My biological clock thob
Speaker 1: I would say, I didn't, dudean, you wouldn't know if
Speaker 1: you did fifteen, I would wait. Okay, So I did
Speaker 1: see the light. And for those listening, light sometimes means
Speaker 1: to what did they did? They tell you explicitly what
Speaker 1: the light was, so they go, they go this, they go,
Speaker 1: red light, you got a minute left, flashing red light,
Speaker 1: it's time to go off. I'm there, I'm having I'm
Speaker 1: whooping and holler. I'm really so, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: wait for the flesh to happen. Never see the flow.
Speaker 1: And this is true, you're not gas lighting. No, I
Speaker 1: saw the light and then they never flash it. Emergency emergency.
Speaker 1: We you were the police were getting off the same Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go. Yeah. I didn't get the scolding light,
Speaker 1: and I almost got the I only got the courtesy light. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's though. I did six and then I get off
Speaker 1: and and one of our dear friends, who shall remain nameless,
Speaker 1: said something to the effective felt like ten say their names,
Speaker 1: say their name? What who cares? Who was it? Drag
Speaker 1: Sydney who has never been on time to anything? Like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no really? Also what Sydney has never
Speaker 1: gone over ys, never run the run the come on?
Speaker 1: I don't say this. I wish she would have because
Speaker 1: I like to see her perform. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like if you run the light. It's like they
Speaker 1: should be so lucky. You're up there for double the
Speaker 1: time you're supposed to. You guys are playing me X. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you two X, I'm giving you three X.
Speaker 1: That's saying you're giving an arc mama. And it's so
Speaker 1: funny because like I was a comedian in Chicago for
Speaker 1: like three d four thousand, five hundred years. Now I'm
Speaker 1: forty nine years old. It is true, how it's those
Speaker 1: things are so important then and then yeah, it's it's funny,
Speaker 1: isn't it? And now you did it? And now it's
Speaker 1: like over and it's over and and you know what
Speaker 1: my and you know what someone said to me, I go,
Speaker 1: they go, how is the how was JFL I go, fine,
Speaker 1: they go, You know what, if you bombed, then the
Speaker 1: show would have been important. But you crush the house down. YEA.
Speaker 1: Saying that it's fine is probably the best fucking outcome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's good job. And if I don't see twenty million
Speaker 1: in the bank by two years from now, then the
Speaker 1: festival needs nothing. I can tell you. I went in
Speaker 1: and it was years before i'd see it was years.
Speaker 1: Forty years had to pass for I said, my bank
Speaker 1: account finally reached twenty mill And you're also forty nine
Speaker 1: years I'm forty nine. Well, busy, Phillips math, I'm forty nine,
Speaker 1: sitting in front of sitting in front of a roth, Go, Sarah,
Speaker 1: did you paint all this yourself? The mural? It's gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I mean I went insane over the pandemic. Well, my
Speaker 1: mind did. To our right is a t mural of eyeballs.
Speaker 1: And that's a door you can't tell. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love that you painted the door. That's hot a
Speaker 1: square eyeball. But you've never seen one of those before.
Speaker 1: Well maybe in some SpongeBob square pants. Maybe it's some
Speaker 1: random universe forever. Yeah, maybe in some rand other universe,
Speaker 1: like a cartoon or something in the Lego movie. Certainly
Speaker 1: never on this plane. You guys, we laughed so hard
Speaker 1: or being stupid, being the most stupid creatures. Tell us
Speaker 1: the funniest thing you've ever seen? Serious, Yeah, tell us
Speaker 1: the one moment you laughed the most like, and then
Speaker 1: we'll both we'll all say the funniest thing we literally
Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, Okay, it's really I can't describe it. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: matt you're from Long Island. Oh yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about schedule over the next hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get there, Sleepy if Mattress company exists. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's actually it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like that could be a local thing or
Speaker 1: a national thing. I don't know, but it felt it
Speaker 1: certainly felt very local. Well, this is when I go, Okay, Hi,
Speaker 1: my name is Sarah Nicole. I'm going to open a
Speaker 1: mattress store. What do I call it? Sleep He's yeah, millions?
Speaker 1: That really works. Okay, So, how was this the funniest
Speaker 1: thing You've ever seen? When I was like him, and
Speaker 1: there was a Sleepy's commercial on the television and there
Speaker 1: was a kid jumping on his bed so crazy. So hi,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so funny thinking about a
Speaker 1: kid jumping on their beds so crazy. Literally, I'm laughing,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I am the laughing my
Speaker 1: ass off l m A oh laugh, my fucking ass off,
Speaker 1: like boying boying boy And he was like jumping on
Speaker 1: his sleeping match just crazy. Oh my god, he lost
Speaker 1: his absolute mind? Was he like a kid? He was
Speaker 1: like a little tiny guy. And then I like, can't
Speaker 1: even okay, Well, the punchline is he's mactress crazy style
Speaker 1: and the SATs go boying, boing boying. That's the before
Speaker 1: the sleepy mattress. Oh my god, yeah, sleepy mattress. He's okay.
Speaker 1: That is literally so funny, and we lost because of it.
Speaker 1: What happens the sleepy is bad. That's literally one of
Speaker 1: the funniest things I've ever heard. Alright, So I want
Speaker 1: to I want to hear the end of that, but
Speaker 1: there can keep going on. The sleepy mattress and the
Speaker 1: kids jumping on the bed crazy style. Instantly falls asleep.
Speaker 1: Minute years later, I was woken awake in the night.
Speaker 1: That's three, all right, and I was like, I need
Speaker 1: to find this commercial from my and I found it.
Speaker 1: Oh God, you'll have to polist when this episode so
Speaker 1: everyone can can see is this a cartoon boy or
Speaker 1: a real boy? And that's the thing, it's a real boy.
Speaker 1: Oh I drinking. Surely in my head I thought it
Speaker 1: had to be a cartoon boy because what you were
Speaker 1: describing was just so funny. You can't go because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do too too, because I realized I have too
Speaker 1: that it's so tired, it's so tired. Wait, can everyone
Speaker 1: do their once so I can find the exact person,
Speaker 1: last name of the person who said, all right, do
Speaker 1: you want to go first? I have? Well, okay, so
Speaker 1: I had to do this thing, uh for uh where
Speaker 1: I had to I had to find I'd sift through
Speaker 1: old photos and that and what I did before I
Speaker 1: deleted Facebook like five years ago, is just like download
Speaker 1: it all my old photos, saved them on this drive
Speaker 1: and then I looked through my old profile picks and remember,
Speaker 1: like two thousand nine was such a dark period in
Speaker 1: Facebook culture. Do you guys remember this? And it was
Speaker 1: like right around like probably when I discovered Reddit, and
Speaker 1: like it was just like random you know, like random
Speaker 1: mass photos that made you laugh even though like nothing
Speaker 1: was really happening in them. And have you guys seen
Speaker 1: the photo of the Llama or the I'll pack it
Speaker 1: with no legs, and and it was just like a lump.
Speaker 1: It's just a worm, like a furry worm. That's it's
Speaker 1: an l and like it's it's And I think that,
Speaker 1: and I looked back that I was like I back
Speaker 1: then thought it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life. And now I look at it, I
Speaker 1: feel nothing, and I'm like I was, I was a
Speaker 1: disgusting person in two thousand nine. No, that is so funny.
Speaker 1: The ll pack up. It's only a body and a worm,
Speaker 1: a fuzzy worm. That was literally so funny. It's a
Speaker 1: blest of me that that's my number. Random humor. It's
Speaker 1: random humor, Random humor. Bring back random humor, Matt, what's
Speaker 1: we need to bring back random? Okay? So I I
Speaker 1: have to um, they're sort of like both musical sequences
Speaker 1: in film. So, first of all, my runner up is
Speaker 1: in Muppet Treasure Islands when they're taking the roll call
Speaker 1: and they cut to this one gorgeous woman and she says,
Speaker 1: I she's literally so beautiful playing with gender. Yes, it
Speaker 1: really was so shocking and the head laugh. And in
Speaker 1: that same movie, Um, that's my runner up, and my
Speaker 1: one from muppetres Island is the cabin Fever sequence. You
Speaker 1: ever seen Muppe Treasure Island when they do where you
Speaker 1: got Kevin Fever? Anyway, that I probably watched a million times.
Speaker 1: And also the Dulach song from the song went from that,
Speaker 1: the little like when they opened the box and the
Speaker 1: Dulach song happens. Yes, I know the whole thing perfect that.
Speaker 1: I think I watched that a million. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: did this play where it's like, um, your shoes up
Speaker 1: your face. Yeah, that was so funny. It is literally
Speaker 1: the fuck up Shrek holds the key. It's actually Ruler
Speaker 1: culture number fifty. Shrek holds to humor, stinky onions. That's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was. There was not a scene in Shrek that
Speaker 1: wasn't so funny. Absolutely, I'm making waffles. Oh please. When
Speaker 1: he said I'm making waffles, I was like, that is hilarity, Sarah,
Speaker 1: what's your second thing? Well, then in the time I
Speaker 1: also thought of I thought of two more things that
Speaker 1: are really funny. I've never both more. I did not
Speaker 1: Bragg I did a show at the Hollywood Improv I've
Speaker 1: ever heard of it last week in a comic known
Speaker 1: as wing Fetterman, he's one shouts out to you, shouts
Speaker 1: out to sucking you, gets on stage and he says,
Speaker 1: you know what comedy? If I can make one person
Speaker 1: in this room laugh, oh, would sucked. They're like forty
Speaker 1: people in there. That's really I would suck. There's like
Speaker 1: forty people, inaire. I love that he would shoot himself,
Speaker 1: and I had to think that that's that's my impression
Speaker 1: of wife delivered it much better. And I've never seen
Speaker 1: the man's comedy, but my impression of him can't be
Speaker 1: right either. And you're gonna see him and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be laughing. I'll be laughing my ass off. And then
Speaker 1: the other joke that I just thought of that this
Speaker 1: is actually the funniest joke of all time from the
Speaker 1: Three Amigos, and they're like, oh, is that that's a
Speaker 1: male plane? And someone else goes, how can you tell?
Speaker 1: Can't you see his little balls? Oh? Man? Really good
Speaker 1: reaction out of you guys. But no, it's okay. You
Speaker 1: have to hear it from the horse's mouth. Bowen, what's
Speaker 1: your second what's your second funniest thing you ever heard? Mine?
Speaker 1: Mine is like, I think it's something from like the
Speaker 1: south Park movie when like like Hussein pulls out his
Speaker 1: dick or something, I don't know, Like that was like
Speaker 1: as a kid, I was like, that's the funniest thing. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Also remember in Team America World Police when they had
Speaker 1: the really long sex scene and the puppets were like
Speaker 1: fucking Also when that movie started and the puppets started
Speaker 1: to come out, I literally me and my cousin were screaming, laughing,
Speaker 1: rolling on the floor of the fucking sticky theater. It
Speaker 1: was we couldn't believe that was the movie. Wait, um no, okay,
Speaker 1: I have I have I have a third thing. I
Speaker 1: have a third thing. And this because because the Team
Speaker 1: American thing reminded me of this in the Reno nine
Speaker 1: one one Miami and the movie the best movie of
Speaker 1: all time, the best there's there's like a whole scene
Speaker 1: where like Um, Jim Dangling, Treaty White Belt, Um Carry
Speaker 1: Kenny Silver and Thomas London's characters are are in the
Speaker 1: motel about to have sex. They start to look up
Speaker 1: and then it cuts to this, guys, what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about its insane sex between two people with incredible bodies,
Speaker 1: and then and then it pulls out to the wide
Speaker 1: and it's these two other people and the guy says,
Speaker 1: oh my god, someone's filming. I've never seen it, but
Speaker 1: I'm laughing. It's so good across the board. Everyone in
Speaker 1: the movie is so funny. Carry Kenny Silver kills it.
Speaker 1: When you see Nash is unbelievable. There's a rock. The
Speaker 1: rock is in it for like two seconds and then
Speaker 1: explodes like it's so good. Also, Paul Rudd has a
Speaker 1: cameo and it's just it is so pupidus and it's
Speaker 1: so dumb. And I used to I used to like
Speaker 1: watch that get it again and again and think, why
Speaker 1: aren't more people talking about this. We've had to talk
Speaker 1: about it on this pod before. I don't think we've
Speaker 1: really talked about it anyway. It's so funny. I did
Speaker 1: three mat what what do you have a third one?
Speaker 1: Do I have a third one? Oh my god? I
Speaker 1: mean when I saw adult ziem happen, I do. I've
Speaker 1: never felt like that before. I I would describe it
Speaker 1: as beyond euphoric, like it felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: it's something happened to my body where like I've I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll ever replicate how how much joy
Speaker 1: I got from watching him say Adele does em and
Speaker 1: then the cut to her and I just I've never
Speaker 1: And that was the number one moment in a culture history,
Speaker 1: of course, but it bears repeating because it really was
Speaker 1: was so freaking funny. Sarah has her hand raised that
Speaker 1: I'm calling on you, Yes, Sara in a can I
Speaker 1: pose a counter to that? Yeah, I'm gonna do impression
Speaker 1: of this really important. I mean, if that's going to
Speaker 1: be the number one in culture history, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a saren iCal number one history. I'm gonna do an
Speaker 1: impression of it, and you guys have to guess what
Speaker 1: it is. And I actually hope you've discussed this onrong
Speaker 1: this podcast, as it is a cultural touchdown. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited. Yeah, the grape stomping
Speaker 1: lady something. Oh and it sucks because you know she's
Speaker 1: in a lot of pain. But oh no, is that true?
Speaker 1: I think like her like she cracked a rib and
Speaker 1: it like fully impaled her alone. That's why she sounds
Speaker 1: like it's not quite that but she was. She was
Speaker 1: I think she was hospitalized, but she also sucked. She
Speaker 1: was such she was such a little piece of ship.
Speaker 1: And the lead up to that, they were like, stop
Speaker 1: stomping in the grape did she a little stomping? No? No, no? Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and then in the lead up there, like they cut
Speaker 1: to her from like the news desk and she's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're here at the winery. What are we doing? Like
Speaker 1: she just like was such a fucking, fucking dumbass. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I would also like that mat has his
Speaker 1: hands raised. Yeah. I would like to say another really
Speaker 1: funny thing that happened, which was one of the funniest
Speaker 1: things ever that ever happened, which is Scarlett takes a
Speaker 1: tumble when Scarlett maybe we kiddy to kidther. Yeah there
Speaker 1: were look boom boom boom. Oh no, she she posted
Speaker 1: it. It It was like l O L. She thought it
Speaker 1: was so funny. Scarlett was unlike the grapes something lady,
Speaker 1: not critically injured like she She moved on and got
Speaker 1: the humor of it. But I just couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: someone would set up and record themselves singing so seriously,
Speaker 1: and then the way it fell. Oh my god, Sarah
Speaker 1: Sarah something else, Yeah, she had. I would also like
Speaker 1: to propose another really funny moment that happened in culture. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, of course you have your hand raised. I
Speaker 1: like to call on you. This is classic, this and
Speaker 1: this is there's nothing more two thousand nine than this mhm.
Speaker 1: Sitting on the toilet. Oh yeah, sitting on the toilet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: honestly that was viable videos like nothing happened and one
Speaker 1: thing happens in them. And now it's like on TikTok
Speaker 1: you get full stories and ship and like it's so
Speaker 1: like rich and like so much. It's so dense. But
Speaker 1: like back in the day, early viral video days like
Speaker 1: double Rambo, we wouldn't shut the funk up about it
Speaker 1: for like two months. No, yeah, we also bowing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, what's really still the test of time? You
Speaker 1: know what? I like, the most parts gets done? How
Speaker 1: am I? And this is my counterpoint to the tock
Speaker 1: of it all parts sitting on the turtlet. We're talking
Speaker 1: about moments in time. We're sheer total violence that happens spontaneously.
Speaker 1: We question authenticity with we question We'll never have a
Speaker 1: lemon party again. I think we're past Lemon party or
Speaker 1: like your girls remember like true Girls One Cup, like
Speaker 1: where you were like, I don't think we'll ever have
Speaker 1: like shock moments like that ever Again on the internet.
Speaker 1: I have to say I've never I've never been able
Speaker 1: to get through two girls one cup. Why not king shaming,
Speaker 1: You're king shaming. They're enjoying it. I know they're enjoying it,
Speaker 1: and I celebrate them. I just when I tried to
Speaker 1: watch it, it was like it was okay, no, I
Speaker 1: can't even talk about it as you can see, how
Speaker 1: do you say goose bumps? Again? I know I had
Speaker 1: shelled the pool everywhere when I tried to watch that
Speaker 1: myself is my pronunciation? Good shall the pod? Yeah that's
Speaker 1: really good. You guys are really good, either of you.
Speaker 1: And I'm serious about this grew up? No girl, girl?
Speaker 1: What was that time either of you in earnest and serious? Yeah?
Speaker 1: YouTube searched epic fail. Oh my god. I can tell
Speaker 1: you our college pals and this includes like you know
Speaker 1: probably right, yeah, this is like this is like and
Speaker 1: a Dresden Andrew Farmer, Like are that little coterie of
Speaker 1: people when we were all, like, you know, in school
Speaker 1: together like we would just go to each other's dorms
Speaker 1: or apartments and then like look up epic failed and
Speaker 1: they're still cut they're still cutting them together. It'll be
Speaker 1: like best Epic Fails Q one one, like they're common compilations.
Speaker 1: The compilations are nuts or the their themes like you know,
Speaker 1: sled epic fails, dog water epic fail. You know, like
Speaker 1: all these so many categories, so many verticals of epic fails.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's a whole like sector of the
Speaker 1: Internet that's still thriving as much as we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: epic fails, remember those? So for me it was like
Speaker 1: probably like three years ago as recent. I know that
Speaker 1: that seems recent, but as recent as three years ago.
Speaker 1: What about you? I'm begging both of you on your hands,
Speaker 1: on my hands, and goddamnnews, I am in treating you.
Speaker 1: This is something I did at a low point in
Speaker 1: the pandemics. I don't I'm not too proud to say
Speaker 1: I have and you YouTube fail and no, what did
Speaker 1: you do? Oh no, I'm gonna say estimate the humble estimate,
Speaker 1: three hour minimum, great news anchor film, Oh I love
Speaker 1: news anchor fails. Also, like when they accidentally say like
Speaker 1: fag and they're trying to stay flag and starry flat one.
Speaker 1: The one news anchor Field rued to roll up. All
Speaker 1: we all are an agreement on what that is, right,
Speaker 1: we say it because it's escaping me. And I'll say,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm about to say? Like the
Speaker 1: ultimately yeah, yeah, yeah, no no, no no, no, it's
Speaker 1: next definitely have the person who climbed the highest mount
Speaker 1: into the world, Mount Everest. But he's gay. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: he's he's but he's gay. No, no, he's blind gay,
Speaker 1: it's really but he's gay. Oh my god. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's blind. I'm sorry, he's blind. Her trying to save it. No,
Speaker 1: so he's blind. So we're here. We'll hear more on
Speaker 1: that later. And didn't she come back? After the break?
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so sorry. I think I said
Speaker 1: he's gay, but you know he is blind and he's here, Sarah,
Speaker 1: what were you malving? What were you molding? I couldn't
Speaker 1: make it out, make it back to the microphone that
Speaker 1: come back? Come back? Interesting is that you? You know
Speaker 1: you said I I remember the funniest thing that's ever happened,
Speaker 1: miss speaking, and I was miss speaking I was lying
Speaker 1: the the the news anchor with mid speaking, and you said,
Speaker 1: that's the funniest thing. And I'm noticing a pattern with
Speaker 1: me where I always think that the funniest news anchor fails,
Speaker 1: or when there's a medical when they like faith. So
Speaker 1: I was mouthing stroke and she started having I did
Speaker 1: think that was immediately sad, but at the time it
Speaker 1: was like, what the hell happened here? Yeah, so that
Speaker 1: you can deal with that, you brought up sad stroke
Speaker 1: on television and punctured long grape lady who's never the
Speaker 1: same someone people who are bodily This is body horror you.
Speaker 1: This actually is an excellent transition. I'd say, bow yeah.
Speaker 1: I because on every episode of Lost Coach, which is
Speaker 1: an abbreviation for the podcast Last Culture Ristas, which is
Speaker 1: really even more of an abbreviation for Lost Culture Rests
Speaker 1: with Matt Rogers and Bell and Young. The working title
Speaker 1: of this podcast, um, we ask every guess, well, was
Speaker 1: the culture that made you say? Culture was for you?
Speaker 1: Do you understand the question? I really I do to
Speaker 1: a fault too. I have too many things to say
Speaker 1: and I'm saying, well, I'll say this to prepare and
Speaker 1: I say, I'm gonna go on less cultures. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go on last time. I'm gonna do my goddamn research. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen. In an episode with my dear friend
Speaker 1: and sister, Ruby mccallista, I was thinking about I was
Speaker 1: thinking about that episode the other day because of the
Speaker 1: way she says, that's that kultrina Jack, that's Jack. She
Speaker 1: was saying, I had an l a jack l She
Speaker 1: she that was dark A culture was a highlights. Everyone,
Speaker 1: please listen. Ruby mccollster, one of the most perceptive, funniest
Speaker 1: raw raw talent people. You truly nobody listened to that
Speaker 1: episode considering that fucking bitch said what I wanted to say?
Speaker 1: What did you say? That fucking bitch? My best fucking
Speaker 1: friend said the culture that was most influential to be
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's why we're friends. What three years
Speaker 1: ago when she went on the show, it said that
Speaker 1: the most influential culture to her was Peewee's. Goddamn motherfucking
Speaker 1: this makes so much sense for both of you, and
Speaker 1: especially you. Let's leave her out. Let's leave Ruby out
Speaker 1: of it. Take her out of the narrative for a
Speaker 1: damn second, what did Peewee mean to you? Everything? It
Speaker 1: was like the first thing where I was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: this is all right? And by way, has anyone ever
Speaker 1: done it? Since? I don't think so. People try, and
Speaker 1: by the way, humiliatingly they try. They should be ashamed
Speaker 1: for how they try. Do we think that? Like No,
Speaker 1: I was, I can't think of anything. It's just the
Speaker 1: only like thing that's like, okay, this is when I
Speaker 1: go crazy. Okay, you want to hear my crazy? The
Speaker 1: only total works of complete and total arts play house
Speaker 1: with I just just how was it advised? Two nights
Speaker 1: ago at S and l A. Were you there? No?
Speaker 1: Literally it was. It was truly, it was truly wild
Speaker 1: to watch it again because it is a perfect it's
Speaker 1: a perfect movie. You're like, no one's this was the
Speaker 1: first movie ever made, and no one's made a movie since. Interesting,
Speaker 1: it's kind of fascinating. And also I'll say this for
Speaker 1: this movie and then we can return to Peewee. But
Speaker 1: I just want to say the special effects of the
Speaker 1: twister sequence, it's actually really scary and jarring. How real
Speaker 1: it looks like it's very like like obviously they had
Speaker 1: to do practical effects it was night I guess when
Speaker 1: they shot it, and then it was released in thirty nine.
Speaker 1: But like she's truly like fighting against the winds. It's
Speaker 1: so scary with it. When they're all going down into
Speaker 1: the to the to the cellar and they close it
Speaker 1: behind them and she doesn't make it. It looks really
Speaker 1: real and the twister looks great in the background, like
Speaker 1: for the time. It's crazy to say nothing of like
Speaker 1: the rest of the visual treat that is the movie.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen that whole feature at where Angela
Speaker 1: Landsbury like talks about like all of the crazy ship
Speaker 1: that went down with the Wizard of Oz. I mean,
Speaker 1: I it's been on since I've seen it, but like
Speaker 1: all like the casting craziness with the tin Man and like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like it's nuts. And then um, but
Speaker 1: then my the thing that I will never forget about,
Speaker 1: which is this is so dumb. But like you know
Speaker 1: the shot of um, the house tumbling down in the landing. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's just like them on like a stage, pointing the
Speaker 1: camera to the floor and then then dropping a little
Speaker 1: house figurine. That's how they didn't talk about the intro
Speaker 1: sequence to Pee Wee's playhouse. That's allures, and like let's
Speaker 1: go back to pee Wee because pee Wee, like it
Speaker 1: totally tracks in your work, like it fully is like
Speaker 1: a new fucked up grotesque version of like of that
Speaker 1: of like I mean like talk about like practical gore
Speaker 1: ship for you, because like that is commitment. That is work.
Speaker 1: That is like manual crafting of art, and you have
Speaker 1: to wear it and you have to like time it
Speaker 1: out and like kind of like I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: everyone please watch Sara Vaccine and all of stairs work.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's but talk about like your relationship with
Speaker 1: making that stuff. I so I haven't learned how to
Speaker 1: make it real until I moved to Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: all my friends are movie magic maker and so like
Speaker 1: I was living in Chicago for like you know whatever
Speaker 1: three thousand years and making being like, oh, I want
Speaker 1: to make an effect where like I make these big
Speaker 1: clay veiny boobs with big Pepperoni pizza nipples, And so
Speaker 1: how do I make the milk like shoot out of
Speaker 1: the nipples. Oh, obviously, what I have to do is
Speaker 1: put a tube through the nipple and fill my mouth
Speaker 1: with milk and then blow milk through the tube and
Speaker 1: so could you know what I mean? I was doing
Speaker 1: like like arts and crafts, like like rubber bands and
Speaker 1: tape kind of practical effects, which is kind of I
Speaker 1: mean that's like you know, crafty, campy whatever, and like
Speaker 1: all in four like I love Pewee and like Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz because it's all this like very tact dial
Speaker 1: it's like an immersive universe that you can like reach
Speaker 1: out and touch, and it's like, you know, I think,
Speaker 1: like because I make a lot of you know, arts
Speaker 1: and craft the aesthetic, I hate that words. It sounds
Speaker 1: like kind of like cheap, and it also or either
Speaker 1: it's not like I think people are like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: you do d I y stuff so we can hey
Speaker 1: you like no money to do your thing, even though
Speaker 1: it's like you know what I mean. But now I
Speaker 1: moved to I moved to l A and then I
Speaker 1: made Saravaccine with my friends who are like real special
Speaker 1: effects artists. So I'm like learning how to not do
Speaker 1: stuff that's just like milk with tubes and stuff. Like
Speaker 1: my friend Heiress Genius Genius works at the like special
Speaker 1: effects shop that like made all these like practical effects
Speaker 1: horror movies that I love and like it was part
Speaker 1: of a team that made the masks for Slipnot and
Speaker 1: I'm like, so major snowe major. Moving to l A,
Speaker 1: it's fun because you're you're surrounded by people whose job
Speaker 1: it is to professionally make stuff crazy style and everyone
Speaker 1: is like a genius problem solver and an artist and
Speaker 1: like it's just cool. Like you know, in Chicago, if
Speaker 1: I wanted to make a pimple exploding with pus, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't know anything, like so I
Speaker 1: just filled like a bubble wrap bubble with vasoline and
Speaker 1: then painted it to look like or whatever that sounds.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a solution, though it's definitely a solution.
Speaker 1: And then I moved here and my friends are like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is how you do with like silicon and all
Speaker 1: this cool stuff. And I still don't really know how
Speaker 1: to do anything. But it's just kind of like fun
Speaker 1: to like mess around and stuff. And I think that's
Speaker 1: why I like practical effects, because it's like, I think
Speaker 1: lost so much by foregoing practical effects. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think that, Like, for example, like like when they
Speaker 1: first tried to reboot Star Wars and like the Natalie
Speaker 1: Portman era of Star Wars as as I call them,
Speaker 1: like all the Aliens being c G. I like it
Speaker 1: made it feel just it just took me out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like they got better in the in the
Speaker 1: next reboot, like the Daisy Ridley era. Um, but like
Speaker 1: but you know it's true, like you know, you could
Speaker 1: never get the magic of something like Wizard of Oz
Speaker 1: now because they would overdo it because they love to
Speaker 1: throw money at the problem. In that way, maybe it's
Speaker 1: even easier for them to put things in and post
Speaker 1: like you could never do Jaws now if they tried,
Speaker 1: it would be embarrassing and it wouldn't be scary. And
Speaker 1: with with Wizard of Oz, it's like obviously they were
Speaker 1: playing with like now we're going into color and like
Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. So there's so much to
Speaker 1: play on, especially like VA V, like the world of
Speaker 1: filmmaking up until that point. But it's so interesting to
Speaker 1: think of those as like the things that you respond
Speaker 1: to because you do genuinely work with that stuff. And
Speaker 1: then when you move to l A, you are around
Speaker 1: so many more people that are capable of that. And
Speaker 1: I would imagine bow and like you see, like magic
Speaker 1: get made every week at your job. But I remember
Speaker 1: my first experience with that was like when they put
Speaker 1: Mitra and I an alien makeup for the My friend
Speaker 1: Molina did your makeup and she is incredible, incredible and
Speaker 1: her everyone she works with is amazing. And it was
Speaker 1: really wold because I've obviously been in makeup trails affording,
Speaker 1: but really just to get like on camera makeup done,
Speaker 1: and then these people put us put so many extras
Speaker 1: into full on alien guiche and it was so involved
Speaker 1: and so impressive and we were laughing, dying, laughing, Metro,
Speaker 1: we had the most so funny, you both so funny,
Speaker 1: but it's just like people are capable of such like
Speaker 1: Wizards beyond, and it's fun And it's what Sarahs thing
Speaker 1: is that it's funny. There's something funny about you and
Speaker 1: Metra being in this like silly fucking but real you know,
Speaker 1: alien makeup, and like, I don't know, like you're so right, Sara,
Speaker 1: And that's a little sad that like no one's done
Speaker 1: it like peewee, since on like that scale, I think
Speaker 1: it's really expensive in a way that's like, you know,
Speaker 1: like if you and Metro were gonna be animated aliens
Speaker 1: for that, I think it would have been cheaper, but
Speaker 1: then you lose the magic of like obviously animation is
Speaker 1: like major and it's like three thousand people working together,
Speaker 1: but like you're in a room with like eight people
Speaker 1: who are all up in your face, and it's like
Speaker 1: it's inherently social and like more present. I think why,
Speaker 1: especially now, I think there's a deep desire within me
Speaker 1: to like really hold onto the practical is because like
Speaker 1: we just spent a year and a half in isolation,
Speaker 1: like and I think it's it isn't easier to do
Speaker 1: wait made up right? Sorry? Sorry, sorry, keep you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Though, It's like, obviously I love animation, major, major,
Speaker 1: but you can kind of do it like a bunch
Speaker 1: of different people at different computers on different sides of
Speaker 1: the planet. Well, when you do it all in post,
Speaker 1: it's like, of course it's appealing because you're able to
Speaker 1: control it up until you know you hit export. But
Speaker 1: it's like you got to make the decision on the
Speaker 1: day if you want to do it all practical, and
Speaker 1: like you and and and doing things practical means that
Speaker 1: you have to have the confidence in what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You've got to know what you're going for like before
Speaker 1: before goes somewhere else to get like you know, cut
Speaker 1: together or whatever the hell totally and it's like first
Speaker 1: Sara vaccine I had to make, um my friend Heiress
Speaker 1: had to make. I'm just like obsessed with them, and
Speaker 1: literally everybody go be obsessed with aarrison and hire them
Speaker 1: to do everything. They had to make like a crazy
Speaker 1: fucked up facial prosthetic, and so I had to get
Speaker 1: life casted, which meant me sitting in a chair for
Speaker 1: three hours while the dunk you and dunk you and
Speaker 1: the goose and the goops and like silicone and plaster
Speaker 1: bandages or whatever, and it's just three hours of like
Speaker 1: complete and total surrender. You're like, I just have to
Speaker 1: trust the people I'm with. It's totally meditative and it's
Speaker 1: like you don't have to like there is this like weird,
Speaker 1: sick element of danger when you are doing practical effects.
Speaker 1: Like the other week, me and Airis had to make
Speaker 1: a head explode and it's like, you know, obviously no
Speaker 1: one's getting hurt, but the little like possibility that maybe
Speaker 1: someone could maybe get hurt, that's fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's danger. Who who did you make up? When you
Speaker 1: did Bernie Sanders, when you when you played Bernie, you
Speaker 1: you had one of the best Bernie's that's the same
Speaker 1: girl who did Matt Meetzra's makeup. Oh, Molina Saylina's full
Speaker 1: name because Melina Sterns and like truly truly great. Well
Speaker 1: I think that's prol Ali to Maguela Cutty. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 1: There was like a whole team there and it was
Speaker 1: such a it was such a wild day because like
Speaker 1: it was honestly worth doing. Obviously it was fun to
Speaker 1: be in a Katie Perie video, but just to have
Speaker 1: the experience of being put into makeup like that, Like
Speaker 1: you hear like the stories of like when Jim Carrey
Speaker 1: did The Grinch, you know what I mean, Like that
Speaker 1: he was truly in like six hours of makeup every
Speaker 1: single day, and you kind of take for granted, like
Speaker 1: just how much effort that is and how hard that
Speaker 1: is and to keep it the continuity and to perform
Speaker 1: in that. Also, what it does to you as a
Speaker 1: performer when you are put into makeup like that, you
Speaker 1: really do I'm alive, Like it really changes who you are.
Speaker 1: And she had those fingers like can you imagine, like
Speaker 1: you watch the granch and you're like, okay, best wormers
Speaker 1: of all time. Literally, I'm in agreement. You know what,
Speaker 1: Like you if you got to wear those fingers per day,
Speaker 1: you'd be a different person. Yeah, you'd be You'd be
Speaker 1: justesticulating all over the place, pointy little fingers. And Molina
Speaker 1: did the old Man Bernie makeup. I was like, can
Speaker 1: you give me prosthetics to make me look old? And
Speaker 1: she was like, actually, I want to try this technique
Speaker 1: I've never done before. And I go, I'm obsessed with you.
Speaker 1: I'd let you do anything you want to take my body,
Speaker 1: it's yours. She did this weird thing where she put
Speaker 1: all this like strange glue on my face that made
Speaker 1: my skin like stick to itself so that it produced
Speaker 1: natural looking wrinkles without like additive prosthesis. Oh my god. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was very disturbing because it was my skin behaving
Speaker 1: as if I were years old. Cool. Um wait, I
Speaker 1: had another thing to ask you. Oh my god, you guys,
Speaker 1: you guys, have you have you have either of you
Speaker 1: ever watched that reality competition show. It kind of got
Speaker 1: like buried. I think it's still on. It's called Face Off,
Speaker 1: and it's like practical, it's practice, it's effects makeup people
Speaker 1: all like it's and all like having to compete and
Speaker 1: like come up with all the challenges are insane and
Speaker 1: themed and it's like these people are wizards and witches
Speaker 1: and like just magicians. It's crazy crazy. I have never
Speaker 1: seen that show, but one of my friends was on it, Joe,
Speaker 1: and it's funny. Like anytime. I'm like, oh, like I
Speaker 1: had to paint a backdrop on like paper. Actually, for
Speaker 1: Sara Vaccine, I had to paint these big hands painted
Speaker 1: back backdrops that were like ten ft by ten ft,
Speaker 1: And after I paid to them, I was like, shoot,
Speaker 1: I gotta roll these have to transport them to the
Speaker 1: filming location. But like, how do I roll up a
Speaker 1: big piece of paper with like han hour's worth of
Speaker 1: paint on it? You know what I mean, without wrinkling it?
Speaker 1: Call it Joe, who's on face off? He goes get this.
Speaker 1: I worked at a warehouse where we had to hand
Speaker 1: roll ancient silks, so I know the rolling technique, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, well, ship, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's great and there's people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'll have sex with Joe if he knows how to
Speaker 1: roll ancient silks. Fuck, like he knows how to roll
Speaker 1: ancient silks like that, and and and that's like one
Speaker 1: of those things like if you know how to do it,
Speaker 1: like I will have sex with you. It's like when
Speaker 1: someone can play piano and sing, like, I will have
Speaker 1: sex with you. It's like one of the can roll silks,
Speaker 1: like I will have sexually. I will have sex with you.
Speaker 1: Do you have one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: if someone can do one thing, you'll suck them. Okay. Um.
Speaker 1: The physicians assistant in my doctor's office is moving to Miami. Um.
Speaker 1: And he is just this adorable, adorable guy and he's
Speaker 1: gotten like really jacked in the pandemic. It's so weird.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's like so sweet and like I'm
Speaker 1: not like that like creepy with him. And I've never
Speaker 1: I've never whatever I sound. He doesn't, he doesn't, He
Speaker 1: has no idea he has, he has, he has, he
Speaker 1: knows nothing about me, and but he it was it
Speaker 1: was my last check up with him last week, and
Speaker 1: he gave me like a quick little exam and just
Speaker 1: like massaged my abdomen while I was lying down. I
Speaker 1: was like see like you know medicine, you know how
Speaker 1: to touch me like this is this, I'll have sex
Speaker 1: with you. I would suck any doctor, yeah, or dentists
Speaker 1: or dentist. No, they're sick, they're sick. Maybe I take
Speaker 1: it back, Maybe I wouldn't suck any dentists. And I
Speaker 1: am king shaming you. No, it's not even that. It's
Speaker 1: not even about there. It's not even about it as
Speaker 1: a kink. I'm just saying, like, you know, maybe not
Speaker 1: any dentists, maybe not any dentists there. What are your
Speaker 1: what are you what are your thinking? I think I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna definitely so. No, No, I said doctor, Like
Speaker 1: that's not the most fucking don't fucking ship. No, It's
Speaker 1: like I'm watching old episodes of Housewives of Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: and like Adrian Malouf's husband, Paul Maluke, I'm so horny
Speaker 1: for him, and it's like only because he's a surgeon. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm rewatching one and two. Can I tell you this ship?
Speaker 1: I'm doing it literally the same thing right now. Is
Speaker 1: your reason sick and fucked up? What's your reason? You
Speaker 1: can cut this? No? No, I want to get to
Speaker 1: the window in which I want to see before Taylor's husband. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to see the in between, and I want
Speaker 1: to see the post. I mean, look, there is a
Speaker 1: morbid curiosity that is the fact that that we find
Speaker 1: out everything about that stuff. And I will say now
Speaker 1: watching seasons one and two again, I'm like almost at
Speaker 1: the end of two two revelations one, I think Taylor
Speaker 1: is the saddest person to ever be on reality television.
Speaker 1: And I also think it's almost like a living document
Speaker 1: of this is why I like Beverly Hills. It's because
Speaker 1: it's sort of about the cracks in the China, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I really think it's an
Speaker 1: interesting tension between them trying to have drama on TV
Speaker 1: and then when this real thing creeps in, like the
Speaker 1: entire franchise changes. Number two, I think justice for Camille Grammar,
Speaker 1: Justice for Camille Grammar. Camille Grammar was ahead of her time.
Speaker 1: And I think, and now we said it save Taylor
Speaker 1: Armstrong's life and I'm not kidding, yeah yeah, And the
Speaker 1: morally corrupt fayre The morally corrupt fayres Nick was a
Speaker 1: moment in time. And also it's just I also love
Speaker 1: l v P. I never thought I would and Kyle.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a very interesting shade to Kyle that I
Speaker 1: never really remembered or new before, which is that she
Speaker 1: used to be well in seasons one and two, she's like,
Speaker 1: she's sort of showing a bitchier, more queen be like,
Speaker 1: I'm like a funny, mean girl side than she ever
Speaker 1: shows now because she's sort of she's like sweet and
Speaker 1: hapless and like things happened to her. She's always crying.
Speaker 1: There is like a harrowing scene which is Kim and
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards ganging up on Brandy Glandville at a game night,
Speaker 1: and it's so crazy to watch them do this, and
Speaker 1: it's like, am I on Brandy's side right now? And
Speaker 1: obviously Brandy goes completely chaotic evil and she corrupts him
Speaker 1: and it becomes crazy. But you know, it was not
Speaker 1: cut and dry, like Camille and Brandy are like the
Speaker 1: evil like bitch goddesses of this franchise. Looking back, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, Kyle and Kim like could give as much
Speaker 1: as they got, are as good as they got. I
Speaker 1: started rewatching one and two because I am noticing myself
Speaker 1: mourning the world before mourning the loss of the world
Speaker 1: before social media, when people were outrageous and didn't feel Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna get me yeah totally. And time and
Speaker 1: tech kills everything. Time and tech kills everything. Because Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards now is it feels accountable to this audience, where
Speaker 1: she didn't when she was like vehemently defending her sister
Speaker 1: seasons one and two and like had little awareness of
Speaker 1: the public or like how popular she would be on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And now Kyle Richards is like basically nothing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: said it. I still stand Kyle and still do see
Speaker 1: her when I look in the mirror. Um, but that's
Speaker 1: my across the bear, your Renna. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I'm Renna and entered into everyone else. But when I
Speaker 1: look in the mirror, I see Kyle, and so does Lisa.
Speaker 1: When Lisa looks in the Renna, she's When Lisa Wrena
Speaker 1: looks in the mirror, she sees Kyle too. And that's
Speaker 1: sort of important when you're Lisa Arenda, because if you
Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and saw yourself as Lisa Arenna,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't act like Lisa Arenna. But when you look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and see Kyle Richards, you feel you.
Speaker 1: There's like a lack of self awareness. And then you
Speaker 1: go out and you're Renna. And I say this as
Speaker 1: someone who loves Renna, and I love Renna, and everyone's
Speaker 1: piste off at Renna and I go risk have some respect,
Speaker 1: respect and respect. And I'll say this, Kyle can stick
Speaker 1: around because she brought us Kathy Yea, and she can
Speaker 1: stick around if we get a little bit of the
Speaker 1: Mauriceo real estate fraud. Here's the deal, is there real
Speaker 1: estate fraud? Yeah? Bitch where I'm I'm demented, I'm criminal. Same.
Speaker 1: I just went on bitch Sessed last weekend. It was
Speaker 1: the highlight of my entire life. Wait, Sarah, have you
Speaker 1: always been Bravo Bravo head? I'm just addicted to the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, New York and Potomic and
Speaker 1: I can't watch the other Bravo shows because I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the youth. Want the SMR experience,
Speaker 1: a full face of makeup. I want the near the
Speaker 1: grotesqueness of like these women are fast approaching physical and
Speaker 1: a mental demise. But it's the cracks in the china
Speaker 1: that you're saying, and you don't get that with, um,
Speaker 1: what's it? I try getting into it, I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: This is it's a little tragic because these are all
Speaker 1: like you know, servers and like people who are like
Speaker 1: are kind of struggling in some additional way to like
Speaker 1: their personal problems. Totally, I could watch if it was
Speaker 1: a lot of Lisa, but I do like you should watch.
Speaker 1: You watch like you would love Salt Like sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Of course I saw salt like I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course salt Lake is salt Lake is.
Speaker 1: I would say those are like the core for and
Speaker 1: I hate to leave Atlanta out of it, but Atlanta
Speaker 1: is just too hit or miss. Like Atlanta, the good
Speaker 1: seasons are truly unreal, like they're they're so fucking good.
Speaker 1: But there's there's bad seasons that just like truly you
Speaker 1: watch an entire year and nothing happens. And I know
Speaker 1: that's controversial, but Potomac, Beverly Hills, and New York. If
Speaker 1: I had to say my top five favorite housewives, I
Speaker 1: think they would all come from those franchises. And then's
Speaker 1: the controversial opinion, but I think that's because the top
Speaker 1: like those are all camp cities and Atlanta can't be
Speaker 1: camped because they're all so funny and so self aware
Speaker 1: mostly mostly like they're just being like Candy is just
Speaker 1: like cool, you know's what's up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: They're not Potomac. They kind of are. They know how
Speaker 1: funny they are, they know what they're they're they're supposed
Speaker 1: to do, and yet there's like such a grounded charm
Speaker 1: to the fact that like they're just like, yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm moving out of the town house or I don't know,
Speaker 1: like it's just like it's it's relatable. It's not like
Speaker 1: a grotesque picture of like class bullshit. Then, like as
Speaker 1: much as the other ones are, and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just like these women and I would hang out
Speaker 1: with any of them. I've said this a million times.
Speaker 1: But you're like Giselle like knows that she's being funny,
Speaker 1: but she lives in the fucking woods in a house
Speaker 1: it looks like a ship. She looks awful, and she
Speaker 1: dresses horrible. Also, did you know that none of them really,
Speaker 1: only like one and a half of them even live
Speaker 1: in Potomac and they all live truly two hours away
Speaker 1: from each other. Potomac is not like a real like place. No,
Speaker 1: it's like a desert needed like location. It's never lands.
Speaker 1: It's high Rule, but it's as rural culture. Number A
Speaker 1: hundred and three Potomac. And Karen is giving rule Endorf.
Speaker 1: She's giving gan Endorf in a major way beyond human.
Speaker 1: She's She's I love her. She's in my top five,
Speaker 1: She's in my All Stars cast. If I had to
Speaker 1: put one together, I'd say her, Yes, I do stand Candice,
Speaker 1: Rinna Kyle, and then I would say maybe lou or Son.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough. I'm kind of still a dilatant
Speaker 1: to house. I'm not going to put on my own ranking.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stain from them. You have to have stain,
Speaker 1: you must have stained. I do have a question free
Speaker 1: going because here I am. I'm going, I'm going on
Speaker 1: lost culture. I gotta do my research. Okay, okay, And
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm and I'm listening, but I'm laughing, mind you,
Speaker 1: I hope genuinely the goal and and and bone goes,
Speaker 1: Bone goes this. No, Ramona Bone knows no Ramona Rama.
Speaker 1: And this is when I put in my card and
Speaker 1: I pose, and I posed something. I'm gonna pose an
Speaker 1: interesting hypothesis. You we think that the presence of Ramona
Speaker 1: Singer continues the discourse on the show of how Glass
Speaker 1: is Poison. That's interesting, that's you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because we're getting Leah, we're getting Ebony, we're getting cool
Speaker 1: girls that are a little bit erasing the narrative that
Speaker 1: I think Andy when he was sewing, when he was
Speaker 1: the fabric and yeah, yeah, and he wants to tell
Speaker 1: it no, and he wants to tell a story that
Speaker 1: rich people can be really bad and we like to
Speaker 1: watch their lives fall apart before our very eyes. Time.
Speaker 1: I don't know where Andy's First of all, can I
Speaker 1: just say something about all the fucking like the like
Speaker 1: I think it was like the US Sun like flop,
Speaker 1: You're not You're not even the British Sun, like you
Speaker 1: have no power. And yet they still like I got
Speaker 1: under my skins because they're reporting that I'm saying that
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen himself banned me from watch What Happens Like Supremacies,
Speaker 1: when all I said on the podcast with Cecily a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago was I'm pretty sure I'm not
Speaker 1: allowed back because I think that because they cut out
Speaker 1: this thing where I said the Ramona's supremacist. I did
Speaker 1: not personally make it about a thing where Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: like doesn't like me. No, that's not even true. You're
Speaker 1: being hyperbolic. I mean, yes, I I stand Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: to the tops of mountains and back to the plains
Speaker 1: and the valleys. That man is a genius on the
Speaker 1: topic of remote and so I just want to clear
Speaker 1: that up. And and and I love Andy so much
Speaker 1: on the on the topic of Ramona. That is so interesting, Sarah,
Speaker 1: I don't quite know how to answer that. But my
Speaker 1: thing with Andy maybe or not Andy, but Bravo is like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much there I don't know what
Speaker 1: the balance is between them wanting to protect some of
Speaker 1: these women, like let's say Erica Jane, or how much
Speaker 1: they want to like expose how these women are unraveling,
Speaker 1: and how corrupt they are, and how wealth corrupts you
Speaker 1: and how all these things are like noxious and poisonous
Speaker 1: and corrosive. I don't know. I think I think I
Speaker 1: think it's just holding up some sort of like or
Speaker 1: shack tests and then we all interpret it for ourselves.
Speaker 1: But as but with Ramona, it's like, I'm so sick
Speaker 1: of it because we it's just kind of like a
Speaker 1: more an uglier version of the same thing that's built
Speaker 1: up over years. And I'm just like, I don't really
Speaker 1: Now she gets on my TV and I get like,
Speaker 1: I crawl under my skin and I'm like, actually anchor
Speaker 1: and I want to like throw, I get violent and
Speaker 1: it's scary. I'm not like that anyway. That's because I
Speaker 1: think the reason why the ratings are so low is
Speaker 1: not because of ebony. And then and it's insane. It's
Speaker 1: insane for people to say that I think the ratings
Speaker 1: are low because we we're it's becoming sort of Now
Speaker 1: that you bring in these like cool, smart women that
Speaker 1: are younger and they confront Ramona, it's actually stops the
Speaker 1: dramatic narrative and you because because Ramona is a person
Speaker 1: who cannot have that discussion because it's embarrassing and if
Speaker 1: she were to actually say what she thinks, what she
Speaker 1: refuses to do, she would come off as insensitive, racist,
Speaker 1: classist at all. And so that's why she's refusing to
Speaker 1: talk about it at the reunion, why the reunion keeps
Speaker 1: getting pushed, it's why there like this season, the filming
Speaker 1: for the next season is postponed, quote unquote indefinitely. It's
Speaker 1: because we're actually at a turning point. Because when you
Speaker 1: hire someone like Leah and Ebony and you throw them
Speaker 1: into the cast and they, by nature of being who
Speaker 1: they are, chiefly Ebony, like, we have to talk about
Speaker 1: this because it's part of the fabric of who I am.
Speaker 1: And if I'm going to be friends with these women
Speaker 1: in a real way and have your show happen, I
Speaker 1: have to make sure we're on the same page because
Speaker 1: I won't be a part of someone who stands with
Speaker 1: white supremacy. And you have someone who refuses to engage
Speaker 1: in that conversation because they probably are consciously or unconsciously
Speaker 1: aligned with white supremacy, then you don't have a show.
Speaker 1: And the viewers aren't stupid, we can see that. So
Speaker 1: if that's going to be the narratives that's playing out
Speaker 1: and two people don't come to the table to have
Speaker 1: conflict over that, and we can't have what you need
Speaker 1: on that show with this conflict and resolution, then you
Speaker 1: don't have a show. So you either stick with Ramona
Speaker 1: and her cohorts or you move on. And that's actually
Speaker 1: where unwittingly, I think the show has found itself because
Speaker 1: you are not going to gain viewers with this current cast.
Speaker 1: You have to make a choice because Ramona is not
Speaker 1: playing ball, and if a cast member is not playing ball,
Speaker 1: then probably they should be the ones to go. Because
Speaker 1: I do believe we can have a fun show with
Speaker 1: Ebony and Leah and even Sonia and Lou. But because
Speaker 1: I believe that Sonya and Lou will come to the
Speaker 1: table and have the conversation, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like lu showed up at the election party. We don't
Speaker 1: know her voting history, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's checkered, but she's coming to the table
Speaker 1: to have the conversations. She's willing to engage. Ramona is not.
Speaker 1: And I think there's an interesting parallel. Dare I do
Speaker 1: Dare I do this? With great and Nary? Nary with
Speaker 1: grapes not like grapes. Stopping Lady is fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this. There is something really
Speaker 1: hard to watch about Ramona this season, being so violently
Speaker 1: racist that it's like I can enjoy watching Taylor Armstrong's
Speaker 1: life fall apart, fall from the bone like a good
Speaker 1: brisket right out of the pot. But there's young and young,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's not fun. Like watching Ramote of
Speaker 1: this season is like, okay, we got to see the
Speaker 1: grape stopping lady get hurt, and this is like watching
Speaker 1: her go to the hospital and get reconstructive lung surgery
Speaker 1: and like you know what I mean, It's like, and
Speaker 1: that's the Queen. Thank you for the complex. Sorry, oh
Speaker 1: that's my And that's my because you've got me. I
Speaker 1: agree now because I go back, because I'm revisiting old seasons.
Speaker 1: I go back to you know, um Lunn finding out
Speaker 1: that Tom cheated and they had the picture and and
Speaker 1: I'm going to add this to the list of things
Speaker 1: that made me laugh harder in my entire life. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone remembers this finey little moment. Luanna
Speaker 1: is shown the evidence three Lucy and the evidence. Bethany
Speaker 1: shows the photo to Ramona of Tom making out sucking
Speaker 1: face at the Regent or wherever Thentown other region down
Speaker 1: l a wonderful photo of Tom sucking face at the
Speaker 1: lyric hiper In and like they're like, oh, really, should
Speaker 1: we tellou? And should we tell aun? Luan Bethany and
Speaker 1: she's a picture and Ramona goes she's a body, scream,
Speaker 1: runs out of the room, goes to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: looks at herself. Yeah yeah, I mean she's certainly done
Speaker 1: iconic things like here's the thing, Like, you can't say
Speaker 1: that Ramona hasn't given television just now. It's not tenable
Speaker 1: because she's unwilling to complete what would you have to do do,
Speaker 1: which is conflict resolution on that show. I think they
Speaker 1: all are told that the show is about conflict and
Speaker 1: then resolution, and the conflict can get very intense, but
Speaker 1: we'll work towards an intense resolution. And that's not going
Speaker 1: to happen if she won't fucking sit at the reunion
Speaker 1: because she's scared to be called a racist, Like it's
Speaker 1: like crazy, Yeah, it's like there has to be the
Speaker 1: crazy person of the straight person in anything. It's like,
Speaker 1: you look like a Nazi's wife, you have to say
Speaker 1: you're not. And so Ramona looks like the Nazis wife
Speaker 1: and votes like a Nazis wife. So we have to
Speaker 1: deal with that because now we have people on the
Speaker 1: cast who aren't darn't wucking with it. Fully in agreement.
Speaker 1: Now I'm full agreement. I totally agree. Can't there's no
Speaker 1: forward motion with her. Well, this is this is always
Speaker 1: what happens on House, but it's like a more recent
Speaker 1: example is like or not a more recent example, but
Speaker 1: like a recent example is Monique and Candace, and it's
Speaker 1: like there's no resolution there because there's just no resolution
Speaker 1: in there there and so then Moniqu ends up leaving.
Speaker 1: It's like, there there has to be some developmental cycle
Speaker 1: that happens with these fights, and when when there isn't that,
Speaker 1: then like some things gotta get Yeah. Um, I just
Speaker 1: I love that this has become sort of a Bravo
Speaker 1: podcast and well, okay, I just want to say that
Speaker 1: it's it's only because we are I think we're in
Speaker 1: a golden age. And I also think I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that we are wearing a great time for Bravo.
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, sorry, No, we we literally are. And I
Speaker 1: also think it is interesting culturally what's happening on that
Speaker 1: particular franchise to me, because it's like when the ratings
Speaker 1: go down and people talk about the reasons why it's
Speaker 1: getting to be the mainstream narrative for the quote unquote
Speaker 1: reason why is fucked up to me again worth examining
Speaker 1: because it's insane to put that responsibility on the black
Speaker 1: woman's shoulders when all she's saying is I will not
Speaker 1: align with white supremacy, and that's fucked up. And don't
Speaker 1: tell me like, well, you know, the Bravo audience actually
Speaker 1: doesn't want to see hard topics. They want to see
Speaker 1: shoes when the back of the whole franchise is built
Speaker 1: on tailor fucking armstrong. So you tell me that we
Speaker 1: don't want to see dark shit. We've with alcoholism, suicide, death,
Speaker 1: like we've dealt with some dark shit on these franchises.
Speaker 1: In fact, that darkness that exists right under the wealth
Speaker 1: is what people like about it. Yes they like the vacations.
Speaker 1: Yes they like to see them get silly and stupid,
Speaker 1: and we like to see the fights. But don't say
Speaker 1: it's not about we don't want to see tough stuff
Speaker 1: or have hard conversations, because that's not it. Literally, Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are blaming Ebony. Yeah, the the rakes are weighed down,
Speaker 1: and people are saying it's because Ebony keeps being preachy
Speaker 1: and teachy about race and is stopping the fun, which
Speaker 1: is like silly. So with this cultural discussion, we sort
Speaker 1: of transition into I don't think so, honey, which bone?
Speaker 1: What would you say about it? If you had to
Speaker 1: say something about it? I don't think so, honey, is
Speaker 1: our or allotted time to really individually go off on
Speaker 1: something in culture and Sarah has done it before. Sarah's
Speaker 1: thrived in the space. You and I have done an
Speaker 1: okay job from time to time. You've you've had a
Speaker 1: recent string of hits. I will say, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a renaissance of mine. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I'm very happy for you.
Speaker 1: I hope today is no exception. I think this is
Speaker 1: a gorgeous be part harmony. I'm the low frequency when
Speaker 1: Matt is like really like finding like the mid and
Speaker 1: the and the high and the trouble, and then Sarah
Speaker 1: is just is going to be the lead VOCs falsetto
Speaker 1: And I'm worried and I'm worried going into this part.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, don't don't worry. You've done it before. Okay, Matt, first,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I can go first. This is Matt Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. The ass eating on white Lotus.
Speaker 1: So let me just say, as a disclaimer, this is
Speaker 1: my favorite show of the moment, but that's not how
Speaker 1: you eat ask babe. And I know Murray Bartlett knows
Speaker 1: how to eat ass, and I know Lucas Gauge knows
Speaker 1: how to get his ass eight, So why is he
Speaker 1: standing up straight like a board like if? If we're
Speaker 1: gonna do ass eating on White Lotus, we need some
Speaker 1: back arched. Okay, Mike White, I know you're in a
Speaker 1: relationship with a man, so you've been there, You've done that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna need to see nose in hole and don't
Speaker 1: tell me it can't be done because girls did it.
Speaker 1: I hate to say girls did it on HBO when
Speaker 1: we saw a nose fully going into Allison Williams is ass.
Speaker 1: So we've seen it done. I love that we're depicting
Speaker 1: ass eating. I love dramatically what this means for the
Speaker 1: show going forward. But if we're gonna do it, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Let's not nibble the top of an ass.
Speaker 1: I don't think he was working his way down. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. I think we've got skittish on
Speaker 1: the staging and we're gonna need to see better, do better.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, And that's one minute. I
Speaker 1: love that love that we saw Lucas Gauge's ass. Love
Speaker 1: love that we sort of get that love seeing Murray
Speaker 1: Bartlett nude. These are gorgeous men. But if we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it, let's do it. Okay, if we're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Representation matters. And if we allow this
Speaker 1: ass eating to happen, what's gonna happen with the kids
Speaker 1: that watch White Lotus. They're not gonna know how to
Speaker 1: eat ass. We need proper ass eating representation on our screens.
Speaker 1: It's important. It's important. They're not going to know where
Speaker 1: else to find acid eating, exemplary acid eating. Like what
Speaker 1: are they going to have to watch girls to see
Speaker 1: how to eat ass? It's like, no, they should be
Speaker 1: able to be They should see these two gay men
Speaker 1: on White Lotus with give me ass eating, and I
Speaker 1: know these men know how to get their asses eight
Speaker 1: and eat as. I don't think you should assume that
Speaker 1: Murray Lucas or Mike White and his partner do it. Well, Well,
Speaker 1: that's what It doesn't matter what you what do you think?
Speaker 1: It's I'm not one of these people. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: some gay men don't I know, I guess I know
Speaker 1: a few gay men who just don't do it. Well,
Speaker 1: then well, then if you're gonna do it, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna depicted in film and television, you should do research
Speaker 1: and there should be someone on set who's done it before,
Speaker 1: like a doctor is on set for surgery scenes, and
Speaker 1: they should say, actually, this is how you do it, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: and you fucking you make it. And there was other
Speaker 1: ways to stage that so that we could have gotten
Speaker 1: a more realistic ass eating How did you watch this, Sarah? Yes?
Speaker 1: And then I go maybe the wait, what's his name,
Speaker 1: Lucas Gauge, Yes, Lucas Gage. Maybe. Lucas Gauge's character motivation
Speaker 1: was like, I'm standing up straight, I'm scared, I'm scared,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous. He didn't look scared to me. And then
Speaker 1: you're just taking a lot of drugs spoiler alert. So meanwhile,
Speaker 1: if I'm never taking drugs, if I'm ever going to
Speaker 1: get my essays sober, I'm I'm sucking hold up to
Speaker 1: the sky bent, get bent. Meanwhile, if you're on all
Speaker 1: those pills and all those drugs. You're again be in
Speaker 1: position mama daddy a coin. He straight up like a
Speaker 1: board and I was like, and we cut to Murray
Speaker 1: Burland and he's like nibbling the top of the butt.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that just tickles m Honey, Honey, Mama Daddy
Speaker 1: love the show, can't. I don't think I love the show. Can't.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it a lot. Maybe we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it more when it wraps up and we have.
Speaker 1: We're actually having a guest on in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: That's a part of the show. Very exciting little but um,
Speaker 1: I love the show. Um. Just when this happened at
Speaker 1: the end, I was like, girl, come on now with
Speaker 1: this ass eating I don't know about all that. And
Speaker 1: I had to say, I don't think so, honey, because
Speaker 1: I'm out here for the kids. So now we moved to,
Speaker 1: uh my phone died, so maybe this is Bowen Yang's
Speaker 1: on the fly. I don't think so all right, and
Speaker 1: its time starts now, I don't think so, honey. To
Speaker 1: baby making do a leap. I have to post a
Speaker 1: fucking apology on Instagram and saying this is not the
Speaker 1: person I recognized. I'm actually pretty positive to do a
Speaker 1: leap a spot of the homophobia from a mile away,
Speaker 1: but was like, I'm gonna throw this guy a bone.
Speaker 1: The baby like had like a five. The baby is
Speaker 1: actually so gay, it's crazy. His whole identity, his whole
Speaker 1: first album was like, I'm a pop star. Like his
Speaker 1: whole of the motif in that album was I'm a
Speaker 1: pop star. I'm a pop star. You are not obsessed
Speaker 1: with the terminology of star if you're not a faggot,
Speaker 1: as Matt Damon says, okay, so like I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: Like all this homophobia creeping back up in the ground
Speaker 1: swell in a way that is so like old and like,
Speaker 1: I don't it's not even interesting. Homophobia makes the homophobia interesting.
Speaker 1: And the baby making poor Sweet Duo while she's on
Speaker 1: a yacht somewhere half to post that apology or having
Speaker 1: a publicist post the apology. I don't know who. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Duo wrote it herself, is just awful. I hate
Speaker 1: that he put her through that. And that's one minute.
Speaker 1: The baby is definitely done. I I was watching the
Speaker 1: Instagram story and I I literally like, it's that thing.
Speaker 1: It's that Matt Damon thing. Of like just stop talking,
Speaker 1: because he started talking and he was like, I had
Speaker 1: I have so many gay fans, and I love my
Speaker 1: gay fans. He could have just shut up right there,
Speaker 1: but he had to keep talking. And then he said
Speaker 1: that insane thing about people. He said, I have lots
Speaker 1: of gay fans. I have straight fans, gay fans. It's
Speaker 1: just that my gay fans don't have AIDS. Are not
Speaker 1: filthy and aren't aren't like discussing some like he he
Speaker 1: basically like, isn't aware that just because you have AIDS
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're like a disgusting don't It's not even
Speaker 1: worth really talking. It's really he he's obviously ignorant about
Speaker 1: what it means to be living with HIV and AIDS.
Speaker 1: Like he clearly did need some education on that, but
Speaker 1: it was so beyond and that's so needed to happen
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, because what he ended up saying to
Speaker 1: his like nearly twenty million fans was like this truly
Speaker 1: crazy misinformation that was so cruel and so homophobic and
Speaker 1: so ugly and dark that it was like, WHOA, this
Speaker 1: person really doesn't get to the point where then do
Speaker 1: what did have to make a statement because it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to talk about this. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that doesn't get it right now? No, not at all anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it's type of Sarah sportms. I don't think so. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's the thing. So I have to
Speaker 1: baking in the oven. Okay. One freshets of the moment okay,
Speaker 1: and anomber one if that a left field, and it
Speaker 1: would seem a little dusty, but I think I could
Speaker 1: dust it off and make it brand new. I'm what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing is that you want to dust off the
Speaker 1: dust to one. It's a new revelation. I want to
Speaker 1: defend it before I before I go off. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna defend it. It's gonna see it's a new revelation
Speaker 1: and it's gonna seem irrelevant, but when you really think
Speaker 1: about it, it's going to be more relevant than Oh
Speaker 1: this is my favorite. Oh I love this. I think
Speaker 1: I think that that seems to be the one that
Speaker 1: the energy is around. Okay, this is Sarah squirms. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. She's dusting off her mets, her
Speaker 1: dusting mets. Her time starts now. I don't think so. Honey,
Speaker 1: people who think that Donald Jason her it is bad.
Speaker 1: I think it's a cool style. Like he went out
Speaker 1: of sitting, out of mind as you should be. Can
Speaker 1: you seeing him pop up on the internet. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at I'm going it's this cool style. It's a
Speaker 1: cool shape. All you have to separate they are from
Speaker 1: the artist. First we had Rachel Don't the hairstyle not
Speaker 1: that funny. Grace Jones invented a haircut that was a
Speaker 1: million years ago, and that did a hairstyle that was
Speaker 1: a million years ago. Donald Jason, Well that's a brand
Speaker 1: nine seconds. That's defense from Donald Trump's hairstyle as and
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The first new hairsty since
Speaker 1: Grace is Jones. He's you're saying, Donald Jason Trump, which
Speaker 1: I don't think is right, is as brand new as
Speaker 1: Grace Jones. That he's a style like probably he was
Speaker 1: so out of sight, out of mind, you know him
Speaker 1: with the new This makes this makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: Act like no, I let let me say something. Aesthetics
Speaker 1: are so important and the whole reason why a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of trump Ship took off was because
Speaker 1: the aesthetic was not good. But it was strong and
Speaker 1: full understood it, and everyone should watch the ContraPoints video
Speaker 1: where she where you know, um nat only one talks
Speaker 1: about aesthetics is in terms of she talks about them
Speaker 1: in terms of gender, but also in terms of like fascism,
Speaker 1: but like aesthetics rule everything, and like that's why it's
Speaker 1: like it's okay for people to be shallow a little
Speaker 1: bit when it comes to like the way they look,
Speaker 1: because you are taken seriously, if you're visually compelling whatever, Okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: it really looks big and strong because his hair is golden.
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm someone who's never what like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that Sarah, there's someone out there who's like, I
Speaker 1: like his hair cut, the cut of his jib and
Speaker 1: the cut of his hair, and I like his hair.
Speaker 1: I like I like how it's a blade out and
Speaker 1: I love it. And it's a strong aesthetic. It's distinct
Speaker 1: and already that's that's that's a huge victory for the
Speaker 1: person that is, you know, holding that style. I mean,
Speaker 1: because you're asking questions about them, and if you know,
Speaker 1: you that bitch when you cause all this conversation. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: my say that who said that Fyance s said that
Speaker 1: by the way, Tina Knowles is going to be on
Speaker 1: drag Race this week judging the snatch game. Well, the
Speaker 1: season has made little sense, so I say why not?
Speaker 1: I say it's a pyle on. Can we say something?
Speaker 1: Can we say something? We love drag Race, we love,
Speaker 1: we love everyone involved in the show. Jan did the
Speaker 1: same exact thing on that show that Rose did, and
Speaker 1: somehow Rose made it all the way to the top four,
Speaker 1: which we love. But for Janny by psychologically abused in
Speaker 1: the way she was makes no sense to me. Where
Speaker 1: they're like, there's no soul there. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: We should have Jan on next week to to give
Speaker 1: a tell all. I would love to have Joan on
Speaker 1: to talk to Jan. We love Jan, We stand Jan
Speaker 1: in this house, Sarah, do you watch raising her hand?
Speaker 1: Syr Syrtical, theyr Nical. I put in a request, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know who I want to be hearing on this podcast,
Speaker 1: the Misham you show the culture ristas that might be
Speaker 1: interesting in topical talk about topical Iman now that's a
Speaker 1: flex in August point, that's a flex, right, But the
Speaker 1: Tamisha Human drama, we will, we will, that's not over
Speaker 1: there's anymore. She should be back. She even didn't she
Speaker 1: leave being like I'll see you want all stars? Like
Speaker 1: didn't she? Or that was Tina, But I think Tamisha
Speaker 1: should come back to Misha is a very compelling character
Speaker 1: in that in that world, and of course we'll see
Speaker 1: more of her. It's not over. And yes, Sarah, we
Speaker 1: will do our best to get to Misham. On the podcast,
Speaker 1: She's coming through you. Wow, I'm sitting here and I'm like,
Speaker 1: sort of love this. This was this was a is
Speaker 1: an episode and what I loved about it that we
Speaker 1: got to touch on the Wizard of Us, which do
Speaker 1: you know? So so I don't know if you know this, Sarah,
Speaker 1: but right now we're doing we're we're sort of gearing
Speaker 1: up for the Cultural Awards, and so all the readers
Speaker 1: are campaigning for UM all the cultural awards, and one
Speaker 1: of the cultural awards is UM Worst Insult towards Us.
Speaker 1: And one time on the podcast, on the podcast reviews,
Speaker 1: someone said, these what these gays are so basic, they
Speaker 1: don't know anything. They just talked about the same stupid ship.
Speaker 1: And I bet neither of them have ever even seen
Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz, which is the while which is
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest, craziest things anyone's ever said, and
Speaker 1: it is a front runner for worst insult towards us.
Speaker 1: It's so weird to say someone, I bet you haven't
Speaker 1: even seen The Wizard of Oz. I think it was
Speaker 1: supposed to drag us for our cultural literacy like that
Speaker 1: we know where it's like, Oh, it's so fundamental, it's
Speaker 1: such a fundamental text. But I'm like, babe, of course
Speaker 1: we've seen it. We've seen the Wizard of Oz. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys, can't be too literal. Get on here. I mean, hello,
Speaker 1: I talked about Wizard of Oz. What am I six?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But you know what, though,
Speaker 1: I will say that the power of that film, and
Speaker 1: also I will say this, Judy Garland is so effortless,
Speaker 1: like what a fucking like performance that is just so good.
Speaker 1: And the whole like you talk about Judy, Judy, Judy,
Speaker 1: and but the whole cast is amazing. Margaret Hamilton's slaying
Speaker 1: like the Lollipop guilds down the fun Where about that?
Speaker 1: I'm shaking my fucking ass at the club. Two three
Speaker 1: drinks follow the Yellow Brick Road. Mama, I'm a whole up,
Speaker 1: Lucas Gauge. You could never We always been holding a
Speaker 1: brush entire time. It's powerful. This is my little dusting
Speaker 1: brush for my keyboard. When there was like little crumbs
Speaker 1: and chip in that and oh, I thought it was
Speaker 1: it's his. Well, he's gonna do that thing like they
Speaker 1: do on the Dragons tutorials, which is he's gonna go
Speaker 1: to this well. It makes me laugh every time, Sarah Swarm,
Speaker 1: what the fun? This was so much fun? This was
Speaker 1: so can I even say I had so much fun
Speaker 1: that I got swept away sweating profusely. Didn't even say
Speaker 1: the culture I was going to say, because I was
Speaker 1: literally so in the moment, say the house wizard. Now
Speaker 1: you said, you're say it, Edward scissor hands. Oh quickly, quickly,
Speaker 1: you have five minutes. Okay, I think so, honey, My
Speaker 1: thought and starts four minutes fifty nine seconds. There's a
Speaker 1: lot we can hold Tim Burton responsible for buttons and stitches,
Speaker 1: aesthetic culture, Core, line Core, Frank and Wyney. There's a
Speaker 1: lot we can be added Tim Burton box strolls as
Speaker 1: stitches for mouth button ries. But what did he give
Speaker 1: us here? Hi Gothic Horror romance, that was a fashion movie,
Speaker 1: that was a horror movie. That was a movie about isolation,
Speaker 1: and that was a movie about s e X. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was also a Diane Waste vehicle, Diane we
Speaker 1: selling a von door to door. Mm hmm. That's a
Speaker 1: huge movie. Iconic Winona, iconic Winona. And unfortunately, like Johnny
Speaker 1: Depp delivered, we got to separate the hair from the
Speaker 1: from the trump. We gotta separate the art from the artists. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think though it's controversial, weather or not, Johnny Depp
Speaker 1: is controversial. I think that it kind of came out
Speaker 1: that maybe that situation was not all it seemed to be.
Speaker 1: Then I take it back. But but you know what,
Speaker 1: that's part of the cultural conversation. And thank you Sarah
Speaker 1: for bringing us to this point. Thank you for touching
Speaker 1: on Edward saysor Hen's in this way. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you and what do you want them to watch?
Speaker 1: I'm going to find me at at Sara Square. And
Speaker 1: when we go to at Sera Squam, they're going to
Speaker 1: find a link. Okay, it's gonna take them to a
Speaker 1: website that they've probably never been to before. What that
Speaker 1: website means that TV and as Bowen so perfectly put
Speaker 1: it before, it's a worker room social cooperative website. I'm
Speaker 1: rock hard, rock hard, and you know what, it's hard
Speaker 1: to get people to go to a website they've never
Speaker 1: heard of to watch a thirteen minute video. It's a
Speaker 1: great side. I love the SA is amazing, watched Sara
Speaker 1: Vaccine Amy CD And I'm not all my shows because
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm looking at the ticket sales. They are
Speaker 1: not flying like hotcakes. I bet after this they fly
Speaker 1: like hotcakes. They're gon and shout out. Guess what. My
Speaker 1: little cousin loves this podcast. This is This is like
Speaker 1: the millionth time I've heard of a little cousin liking
Speaker 1: how old at least? Okay, so I heard of like
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old little cousin listens to this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating. Careful now, careful, now, careful. I hope they
Speaker 1: like my I don't think so, honey about eating ass
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