1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Battery Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: And we are joined today with Bailey and Jeremy. But 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: before we bring them in, we do have to talk 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: about the news. This drop the new Bachelorette, Taylor Frankie Paul. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: What do you think? 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: I'm excited? 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Me too, I personally a smartest move the franchise has made, 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: maybe ever in my opinion. Really, I think it's I 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: think it's great in my opinion, you know, and I 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: know people are going to disagree with that, but I 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: think it's fantastic. 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 2: Why do you think that? 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Because I just think it's like it's so captivating, Like 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: I really want to watch Appose if you if you 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: just took somebody from the franchise or an unknown I 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I don't know, I wouldn't be as 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: like I'm drawn in now, Like I need to see 19 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: how this plays out. And I think she's like the 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: perfect girl for it. 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: I agree. 22 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: I am a fan of the Secret Lives of Mormon 23 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: Wives on Hulu. 24 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Oh I I've only seen the reunion with you. I 25 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: watched the reunion. I was like, oh, this is this 26 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: is fucking addicting. 27 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so addicting. 28 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm on the edge of my seat for season three 29 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: of November, which is going to come out, and then 30 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: I'm assuming The Bachelorette. The Bachelorette will come out soon 31 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: after that, So Frankie Paul has a big couple months 32 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: ahead of her. I mean, she's going to film The Bachelorette. 33 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: She's going to have two shows come out, The Bachelorette 34 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: and Mormon Wives. I mean, like, it's so exciting. I 35 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: feel like the discourse online has been a lot of 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: excitement around her and then also criticism, which I think 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: is in some ways a good thing. I think it 38 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: gets people talking, It gets discourse around the topic, which 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: I think will then drive viewership to the show, which 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: is great. 41 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: It's what we want. 42 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: And I know that people are upset, like why are 43 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: you changing it up, not choosing someone from the franchise. 44 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: I personally don't have an issue with it. 45 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: I think that people have been calling for change within 46 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: the franchise for a long time, but then sometimes when 47 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: she comes, it feels uncomfortable and people rejected. I think 48 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: this is a good change. I think that she's single, 49 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 3: she's dynamic, she's gorgeous. I think she's looking for love. 50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: That's the only requirement to be on the show, get 51 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: to be single. 52 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: I'm looking for love. 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: Like The Bachelor started, I think the first like three 54 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: or four seasons, it was like ex Jesse Palmers, Like 55 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: it was like football player yeah. 56 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, people that were in the public eye that had 57 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: you know, social media wasn't the thing, but they had 58 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: an audience, they had a fan base. 59 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: I love that she's on another show, and I love 60 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: the fact that there's two seasons of her on television. 61 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: That a bunch of guys will go on this show 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: and they're probably gonna be too lazy to even watch, 63 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have no idea who they're dating. 64 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: That's what I'm almost most excited for is for the 65 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: guys that come on that have like gone and done 66 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: the research and like watched all this stuff about her, 67 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: and then on the flip, the guys that come on 68 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: and are like. 69 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I heard she was on some other show. 70 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like didn't watch, like don't know much about her, 71 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, you're about to learn so much. 72 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 73 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I think it's for a ride, buddy, But. 74 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch I think just way to 75 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Go Bachelor, very very very very good move. I don't 76 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: really say that often, not that I have any issues, 77 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: not that I have any issues with what they do, 78 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: but like way to go. 79 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, compliments are hard to find from Joe's. When you 80 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: get one, snatch it up. But I'm really excited for her. 81 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: I compliment a lot of people. Okay, I complimented you 82 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: today on that outfit you did. 83 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: You did, but I'm your wife, so it's a little 84 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: bit different. But I'm I can't wait to watch. 85 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: I think that fans that are, you know, looking to 86 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: get more excited about the season or just learn more. 87 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: I think you should go back and watch the show, 88 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: like go watch Mormon Wives, like get to know her, 89 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: develop your opinion, and maybe it'll even change when you 90 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: watch her as the bachelrette. I think you're gonna learn 91 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: even more about her. I mean, we've seen her relationship 92 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: play out in the last two seasons, but now we're 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: watching our girl date and that's a whole different ballgame. 94 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to bring a new audience 95 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: in which is which is also a pro I'm here 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: for it, Okay. I think we have Jeremy and Bailey. 97 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: They are waiting. Should we bring them in? 98 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. 99 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 3: Stay tuned for the new season Aboucherette, and let's talk 100 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: to Jeremy and Bailey about their time in Paradise. 101 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back, guys, Welcome back to a couple. Hi guys, Honestly, 102 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not, I'm not kidding. I you know, Jeremy, 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: you were on gen season. You went decently far, you 104 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of your time, but you have 105 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: been on this podcast more than anyone where. 106 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: I was thinking about that, like, I've probably been on 107 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: this podcast ten times already. 108 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: You've been a lot. 109 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: You've got You've been on this podcast with like ten people, 110 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: you've been out with five. 111 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: It's silly. 112 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done like you alone, you in a panel, 113 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: you after tell All, and now you with your beautiful girlfriend. 114 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: So this is the perfect way to kind of summarize 115 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: your journey on Bachelor Happy Hour. 116 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: You're done with Bachelor shows? 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you guys? So how are you guys 118 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: feeling post finale, post reunion right now? 119 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? I feel like I think we feel really good. 120 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: We're slightly happy that the show is done. I think 121 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: just having a mental break will be really good. And 122 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: you know, also being in public just normally, even though 123 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 5: we've kind of been walking around like normal. But I 124 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 5: think it just all feels like we're now able to 125 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: like go into normal life and post reunion, I feel 126 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 5: like we handled a lot of things that we needed 127 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 5: to handle with certain people, and I feel like we're 128 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 5: really happy with the outcome, and I feel like that's 129 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: all we could ask for. I think we all left 130 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 5: being friends again and being on everyone's good graces, and 131 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, I think that's really all 132 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 5: we wanted from the reunion and to like see our 133 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 5: friends again, and I feel like that happened. 134 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: You two have had a pretty rough journey when it 135 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: comes to you know, the Bachelor nation itself and how 136 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: they feel about you guys. And I'm sure you guys 137 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: have gotten a good amount of hate for sure. What 138 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: is the temperature check now with everyone? Have they received 139 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: you as a couple? Are they? 140 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: I mean, like, listen, it's it's tough because like it 141 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: has been very rough, like from a fan audience perspective, 142 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: but like while we filmed, it wasn't like that rough 143 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: for us or like a few tough days and like 144 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 4: you know, so it does kind of suck with some 145 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: of the reaction we've gotten, but at the end of 146 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: the day, like it's a TV show, and you know, 147 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: we try, we try for it to like not get 148 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: to us too much. It has gotten better, though, and 149 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: I think now that people see we're together and like 150 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: how much effort we've put in for each other, that 151 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: it's been received better, and we hope, we hope it 152 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: continues to get better. At the end of the day, 153 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: like we you know, we can only explain so much, 154 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 4: and I think the audience questions they have a lot 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: of us, but they're also like only willing to hear 156 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: so much and half of it just goes through the 157 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: ear anyway. 158 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: So it's also I think the reunions a lot to digest. Yeah, also, 159 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 5: so I don't know, maybe people people will need to 160 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: listen to it a few times to really hear what 161 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 5: we're saying. But I feel like it's been received pretty well. 162 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 5: Like I think now we are less stressed and we're 163 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: able to just like be our silly selves. I think 164 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 5: it was like really hard during filming to just like 165 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: want to laugh about everything, and I think now we 166 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: can really enjoy it. And just be able to like 167 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: be fully authentically ourselves. Well, like really, we've just been 168 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 5: like very taking a step back this whole season and 169 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: not like posting so many silly things. I think just 170 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 5: because we've been really overwhelmed and it's been a harsh place, 171 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 5: and so I think I think people getting to know 172 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: us more will be really important. But so far, everyone's 173 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 5: been really sweet, And you know, I get people have 174 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: questions and they want answers, and I hope that part 175 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 5: of the reunion answers those for them. 176 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: So well, even if you like, you know, I think 177 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: some people have to kind of it's hard because it's 178 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: a show that they love and watch. But I think 179 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: like if you take a step back and realize, like 180 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: Jeremy made some mistakes in a relationship that was eleven 181 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: days old, Like how many people are starting a relationship 182 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: on Hinge in the first eleven days, you better believe 183 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: they're saying some fucked up shit so they're friends about 184 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: that person. 185 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: You know, that's kind of like talking yeah literally that 186 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 5: we said this on the reunion. Actually we were like okay, yes, 187 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: Like some people's relationships here, like those are unicorns. Like 188 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: I feel like our relationship was pretty similar to like 189 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: very how like similar to how real world works. It's 190 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 5: like when you're beginning to date someone, number one, you 191 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: don't have to watch it back and see what they're thinking, 192 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: king of and what they're going through. And number two, 193 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 5: you also don't have to hear like how they're feeling. 194 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 5: And I think there's doubts and there's stress in the 195 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: beginning of relationships, when you're starting and when you're just 196 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 5: like talking to someone. And literally it was like an 197 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 5: eleven day relationship. I think it was like it was 198 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 5: like nine. 199 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Days, nine days, and it wasn't even really a relationship. 200 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: Calm down, Yeah, I know that's a year in bachelor time, 201 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: but it's not realistic to normal days, Like we still 202 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: are going through normal days, as it seems. 203 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: But and I'd love to see the relationships with some 204 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: of the people commenting and sending us to ut I'd 205 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: love to see how. 206 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 5: Perfect I'm like, I also feel like no relationship is perfect. 207 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: Nobody's perfect, So like, I don't know, I think everyone 208 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: deserves grace real world in paradise, it doesn't. 209 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: Matter, and ours is pretty damn good. But there were 210 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: a few days like and yeah, I can own up 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,359 Speaker 4: to it and like try to take accountability a million times. 212 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: You know. There were a few tough days, but I 213 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: think but we're in a really, really great. 214 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Place now going into the reunion. Did you guys have 215 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: any sort of like overarching hope or goal, like something 216 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: you really wanted to get across to the listeners or 217 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: just like something you wanted people to take away from 218 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: what you were saying. 219 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: For me personally, it was tough because I wanted to 220 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: take accountability. I feel like I did, you know, when 221 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: I did the podcast by myself with you guys. I 222 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: feel like I've tried to, you know, in my own ways, 223 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 4: but it's really tough to do it in a way 224 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: and also not try to be defensive. And it was 225 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: a thin line I was trying to walk. I didn't 226 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: want to be like argumentative, Like I wanted to be 227 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: there to support Bailey as well, and we weren't trying 228 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: to like we weren't trying to like throw hate on anyone. 229 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 4: We were just trying to like be there and like 230 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,239 Speaker 4: see people and like show everyone how far our relationship 231 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: has gone. 232 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think just giving updates on like where we 233 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 5: are now, I think that's also why people tune into 234 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: the reunion to see where the couples are if couples 235 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: stayed together. I think that was a really big part 236 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 5: of us, like also just taking accountability. I think also 237 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: slightly addressing some of the hate, because I feel like 238 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: a lot of the cast this season, not just us, 239 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 5: has received like overwhelming amounts of hate too, and it's 240 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 5: a dark place to be in at times, and so 241 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: I think that was really our thing. I don't think 242 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: that we came in like obviously there's moments where we've 243 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 5: had like little tists with people on their cast, and 244 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 5: we didn't come in with the goals of like addressing those. 245 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: It's kind of like one of those things like you know, 246 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: if it comes up, we will address it then. I 247 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 5: think we were also happy to address it in private 248 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 5: even if it didn't handle Even if it didn't get 249 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: handled at the reunion, but I feel like we did 250 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 5: get to leave the reunion feeling really peaceful and calm. Obviously, 251 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 5: I think people will still have questions about like things 252 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 5: that happened this season, but there's not enough time to 253 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: address everything always, and I feel like everyone deserves a 254 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: chance to talk. And really, we did not want it 255 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 5: to be like Bailey and Jeremy show. It's like, you know, 256 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 5: I think everyone has so many things to get off 257 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 5: their chest, and they did that in the reunion. So 258 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: I think we got a good amount of things covered, 259 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 5: and I feel like that's all we can ask for. 260 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you feel has gone unaddressed that 261 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: you would like to address now? 262 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: I think it was just like more of stuff like 263 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: that we didn't really talk about, like so many of 264 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: like the good moments from our show, and we've talked 265 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: about this in your podcast before, but there were just 266 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: like so many good things that we wish were shown, 267 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: or so many things that might have been like people 268 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 4: think something happened that didn't exactly happen. 269 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: The way Like the first yeah say that. 270 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: The first thing that comes to mind is like like 271 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: when she came in to talk about like the phone call. 272 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: Like I get if you're just like a normal audience viewer. 273 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: I get why you might not like me for certain 274 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: things or might not support this, but like you just 275 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: need to remember it's a TV show, and like if 276 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: you don't want to be happy for us where we're 277 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: at right now, fine, just don't leave nasty comments. 278 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: Like keep it to yourself. Yeah, and I think that's 279 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 5: a good thing for everyone, Like maybe just keep those 280 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 5: comments to yourself, I don't know. 281 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: Or like text your mom, send it to your girlfriends. 282 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 5: Like if no one sends heyble dms to each other, 283 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 5: Like I'm like, oh, talk shit to your friends. But yeah, 284 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: I think that was like it. I wish we just 285 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 5: there was not enough time to go through certain things. 286 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: I think everyone has little moments of things that they 287 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 5: wanted to cover, and yeah, like him not walking after me, 288 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 5: like getting up to walk after me. I was like, 289 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 5: I wish we had time to cover that and explain 290 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: like that. I also wish, I think for everyone that 291 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: we could have like a timeline of like where days 292 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 5: were and when things actually happened and how things got 293 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: dragged out. And I think also we got to mention 294 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: a little bit just like about where our mental space 295 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: was for everybody. But like, I think when the competition started, 296 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 5: for sure, I think that everyone was really locked in 297 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 5: on their couples and I think that that kind of 298 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: played too. I think people were really upset that some 299 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 5: people didn't tell me about things. And I also think 300 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 5: that I understand where people are coming from of being 301 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: like you're locked in on your couple and you're locked 302 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: in on the competition, and sometimes you're not really thinking 303 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: about everything else that's going on. It's like you're just 304 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 5: so focused because like when we were there, you're going 305 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: to bed like remembering that you have a competition tomorrow 306 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 5: and you want to like be mentally ready for that competition. Obviously, 307 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: we have no idea what's going to be thrown at 308 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: us every day in Paradise, So I feel like everyone's mental. 309 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 5: We were just all focused on so many things at once. 310 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 5: It was really hard to be like, Okay, well, you know, 311 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 5: point fingers about a lot of different things while we 312 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: were there. So I do feel like we got we 313 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 5: got to cover a good amount of things. 314 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I know you two, Andrew and Alex were friends. 315 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Where do you guys stand now, because you guys do 316 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: hash it out a little bit during the reunion. 317 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're good now. So we like, we 318 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: were good friends on the show, and we actually we 319 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: visited we saw you Joe, we visited the Chicago. 320 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, I mean I saw you guys 321 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: together before the show aired, and you all seemed like, yeah, 322 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: you were really good friends. 323 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and we were we visited them in Chicago 324 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: before the show aired, and I think it was just 325 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: like like miscommunication. I think, yeah, I think it was 326 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: like miscommunity. Like we were getting hate for a lot 327 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: of the season and they were getting hate for a 328 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: little bit, and I feel like both parties felt like 329 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: each other. 330 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it had done a. 331 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: Reaching out and it was also a tough place where 332 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: like both like like we wanted to also like protect 333 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: our partners and we don't want to like misstep. But 334 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: so obviously there was like I haven't re listened to 335 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: the reunion, but I know there was like a bit 336 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: of a back and forth. But like during like we did, 337 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: you know, make up with them, and like we were 338 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: hanging out after and we're in a good place. 339 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say we're in a really good place. 340 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: And I think for Alex and I, I think it's 341 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 5: just overwhelming, Like it's not it's hard even if you're 342 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: just receiving hate for a week or two weeks, like 343 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 5: it's still a lot on you. And I think as 344 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: sometimes when you are receiving hate, it feels like it's 345 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: hard to also reach out to other people. And I 346 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 5: think that was a conversation that Alex and I both had. 347 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 5: And I also understand like defensiveness coming from like Jeremy 348 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 5: and Andrew because it's like they want to protect us 349 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: and like we're you know, our mentals in the ground. 350 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: So I think it's also like it's just a lot 351 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 5: of stress. And I'm really happy that like we got 352 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: to clear that up, because like I didn't want to 353 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 5: feel like leaving Paradise and leaving this reunion like I 354 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: didn't have friends that I made there, and you know, 355 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 5: I like those were those are all of our people, 356 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: and like I feel like we really got to leave 357 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 5: on a good page with honestly everybody there, and I 358 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: think that's like all we could have really asked for. 359 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it really was like a great past there 360 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: and a family there, and only those people know exactly 361 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: what we went through. So I'm glad we're able to 362 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,239 Speaker 4: like stay friends with everyone. Yeah. 363 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Nice. 364 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: How was the vibe at the after party? 365 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: I heard after the reunion you guys all went out, Yeah, 366 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: I mean we just went. 367 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was so much of it 368 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: and after party but dinner yeah, every situation, but no, 369 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: it was fun. Everyone was in good spirits. 370 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we were all like we're all 371 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 5: just hanging out even after we filmed the podcast We 372 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: honestly like we're all because you know, after we film 373 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: the podcasts, like certain people are going to do like 374 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: mini podcasts or mini talks, and we're all just filming 375 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 5: content and just sitting there and talking with each other. 376 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 5: And it just felt like we honestly just got to 377 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: be like silly again and laugh. I think this season 378 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: has been a little bit very like intensely emotional, and 379 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: I feel like we all haven't really gotten that much 380 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 5: time to laugh about things and laugh about each other 381 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: and laugh about what happened there. And I feel like 382 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 5: that was really good. We got to do that after 383 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 5: the reunion. I feel like that's literally like we were 384 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: all everyone, like Alicia, Kat like Greece, Like we were 385 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: all I mean, Alex and I, like we're all together, 386 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 5: and I feel like that's really like what you want. 387 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: I think we all kind of realized too that this 388 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: is probably the last time we're all going to be 389 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: in the same place. Yeah, and like everything is like 390 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: we try to like you know, move past in just 391 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: like have fun. 392 00:17:59,560 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 393 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like therapeutic. 394 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really therapeutic. 395 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: It is. It's like, you know, after after the show 396 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: airs and stuff, you kind of like look back and 397 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: like even a few months from now, you're gonna look 398 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: back and be like that was such a good time, 399 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Like we actually have a good time down there. Okay, 400 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: so you guys announced some news. You are moving in together. 401 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we don't have a definitely, Yeah, we don't 402 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 5: date yet, but definitely by the end of the year. Yeah, 403 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 5: by the end of the year for sure. I have 404 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: a lot of clothes, so I think just it's gonna 405 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 5: be a really like a giant loft and it's there's 406 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: nothing up there. He has like four things up there, 407 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 5: and so I'm gonna throw all my ship up there everything. 408 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think going through all my clothes is 409 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 5: going to be hard, and deciding what I'm gonna like 410 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 5: pick and choose to bring to New York will be 411 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 5: really cool and also very stressful. So I think that's 412 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 5: we have a lot of traveling coming up, so kind 413 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: of after we slow down on the traveling when it's 414 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: like freezing cold and new that's what we'll start doing. 415 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: Perfect time to move. 416 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: What does the traveling look like? Where are you guys going. 417 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 5: I'm going to Abu Dhabi into China. 418 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 419 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 5: On the twenty fourth of September, I leave to go 420 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 5: to Abu Dhabi and then I'm going to be in China. 421 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 5: So that'll be really cool. I've always like wanted to 422 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: go to China, and that's gonna be like awesome and 423 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 5: some fun things he's working on that. I don't think 424 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 5: he's allowed to share it yet, but you know, stay tuned. 425 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: I think that will be really cool. And then yeah, 426 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: well we're gonna just take it day by day and yeah, 427 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: keep planning our future. So it's been really good. Nice. 428 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: And then you'll move into Jeremy's current apartment. 429 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he re signed his lease. 430 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: Okay, nice. 431 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: You have some times the research I don't want to 432 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: think not cowd is it. 433 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: Jeremy, you have a one bedroom or two bedroom. 434 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 4: It's a one bedroom, but it's it's kind of like 435 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: a weird like set up where it's like a one room, 436 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 4: but I have two full bathroom. 437 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: And it's like amazing. 438 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 4: I got very lucky with it, so I don't want 439 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: to lose it. 440 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: N Yeah, no, that's nice. Oh my gosh, Billy, you 441 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: have your own bathroom. 442 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 5: I know, it's so nice and like get away from me. 443 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: How has the Yeah, well we all we'll. 444 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 5: Have a poop bathroom and then a normal bathroom and 445 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: there it's his personal bathroom. 446 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: How is the beating the family and friends been going. 447 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 4: It's been great. So I had to Portugal and met 448 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: her mom and sister, which was great. I mean, I've 449 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: never been to Portugal, so had so much fun. And 450 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: then I also was in Atlanta and met her brother, 451 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 4: and I met a bunch of her friends, and she 452 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 4: had met she actually met some of my family in Chicago. 453 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: I have my cousins and aunts and uncles out there, 454 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 4: and she has met my dad and his wife and 455 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: my older sister, but she hasn't met my mom or 456 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: younger sister. 457 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're figuring out. Yeah, we've been traveling a lot, 458 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 5: so I feel like, you know, we've got to figure 459 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 5: out time to like go to Connecticut and really get 460 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 5: to see everyone. But yeah, we've been doing a lot 461 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: of friends. It turns out we have a lot of friends, 462 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 5: so that will be really I'm like, okay, more friends 463 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 5: are keeping a list of everyone. But yeah, I feel 464 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 5: like we've been doing a good job of like facetiming 465 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 5: our friends and doing introductions that way, and he's met 466 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: a lot of my best friends as well, So I 467 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 5: feel like, you know, we're working towards meeting everyone that 468 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: really matters, and I feel like it's been really good. 469 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: Has everyone in your life been supportive of your relationship 470 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: or have you had some criticism? 471 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 5: I think that I think for the honestly, what really 472 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 5: helped is he got to meet a lot of my 473 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: friends before the show aired, so I feel like they 474 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 5: got to really get to know him as a person, 475 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 5: and I think that's what really helped, being able to 476 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: separate these small moments of drama of like where you 477 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: would think your friends should be questioning things, and I 478 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 5: think my friends realized that this is still a TV show, 479 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: and like they have gotten to really know him, like 480 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 5: inside and out. And so I feel like we've been honestly, 481 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 5: really well by like all of our friends and family. Honestly, 482 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 5: my mom like didn't watch. She was like, it's too 483 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 5: much TV. She's like, respectfully, love you guys, but she's like, 484 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 5: I do not have time for that. So her friends 485 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: like send her recaps and it's really funny and she'll watch. 486 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 5: She watches TikTok. So she'll watch like recaps. 487 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: On I love that. I love that your mom. I 488 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: don't have time. 489 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 5: She was like, it was top three episodes for grand season. 490 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 5: She's like, you're on all ten. 491 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: She's like, really, I was hoping you were going to 492 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: make it that far. 493 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 5: I thought you were going to be there for two weeks. 494 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 5: Like she's like, why why are you in every episode 495 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: and there's three hours long? I was like, I know. 496 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 6: Girl, Like I'm sorry, We're like, sit down and watch me. 497 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: She's like, I can't Portugal too. So it's like, you know, 498 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 6: it's five hours ahead. So she's like, so I have 499 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: to stay up till two am and watch this. 500 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: She's like, no, I'm good. 501 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: She's like, you can just tell. 502 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: Me, you know. 503 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: Literally, She's like, you just tell me, and everyone just 504 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: texts her updates. But I feel like, I feel like 505 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: your mom didn't really fully wantch she watched. 506 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: No momm watched. I mean, I think my friend, my 507 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 4: friends and family like they know I could be an idiot, 508 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 4: and they also know like it doesn't know how I 509 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: am as a person, so like they don't really Yeah, 510 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 4: they were laughing. 511 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 5: They were like, oh, you're being like that's a joke, 512 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 5: and yeah, other people didn't know its a joke. 513 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: And then in terms of Maai, like even before they met, 514 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: like my friends and family trust me, so they know 515 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 4: if I love someone, they'll love them as well. 516 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Sam, I feel like they both of our friends 517 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 5: and family really trust like our decision making skills. So 518 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: I feel like that's also really peaceful. So we're really 519 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 5: lucky that everyone's been like really supportive of this journey 520 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 5: and really happy that it's also like slightly over for 521 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 5: us that we can have like call moments finally, and 522 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 5: so yeah, we're excited. 523 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: During during the reunion, Jeremy, we hear you say to Kathy, like, 524 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: don't take my words out of context. Yeah, why do 525 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: you think she did that? 526 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: Well, I think it was too I think two parts. 527 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: But that original part she was talking about I think 528 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 4: was literally from the night before when I saw her 529 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: in the hotel and I don't even remember what she said. 530 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 5: Oh I know, I know, so basically she said something. 531 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 5: Kathy came to our hotel room before the reunion WASILM. 532 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 5: She was like on the same floor as us, and 533 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: Parsa did too. We were all there. We were like 534 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 5: looking at seals outside of our balcony, and we were 535 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 5: like making jokes because I think, like me, Kathy and 536 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: Jeremy were all tauruses and we all have like really 537 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 5: dark sense of humors. I think Kathy especially, and so 538 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 5: she'll always make jokes and be like, you know, I 539 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 5: love you, And then Jeremy calls her a trader for 540 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: sending us home, which like she is the reason we 541 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: went home, and like we stanned by that. I'm like, Kathy, 542 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: I love you, I adore you, but like you still 543 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 5: sent me home, you know, like there's still a little beep. No, 544 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 5: there's not real beef, but we just like. 545 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: You cost me half a mil Kathy. 546 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 5: You only five hundred thousand dollars, Kathy, So I don't know, 547 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 5: like pay up. I'll take monthly installments at this point. 548 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, so we always just have this like little 549 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 5: banter back and forth. And she just asked Jeremy, She's like, 550 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 5: do you still hate the Goldens and you was like. 551 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: I don't, and also like referencing the thing I said 552 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: in the day, I'm like, no, Like I first and 553 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: I explained myself from the Union, I wasn't a fan 554 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: of them coming to the beach. At first, I ended up, 555 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: you know, loving Keith and Kathy. When I made that comment, 556 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, like I didn't want to stand 557 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 4: around and listen to these long monologues forever. When I 558 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: was like trying to talk to Bailey, But no, I like, 559 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: I don't hate. I happen to like love Keith and Kathy. 560 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 4: Kathy's we give each other ship. I tell her. I'm like, 561 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: she's like my aunt, where like we'll just go and 562 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: like fuck around and like talk shit about each other. 563 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Kathy like loves to talk shit, which I love. 564 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: She's still mad at Serena for like for like two years. 565 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: No, I think we actually finally, I'm like, no, Kathy 566 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: does hold grudges. 567 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: That's right now. 568 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: Yes, And Kathy, if you're listening, I stand by this comment. 569 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: You hold grudges. 570 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 5: Okay, Literally, she looked us in the eye and she 571 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 5: was like, I don't hold grudges, and like, I'm like, Kathy, 572 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: you're a Taurus, you do hold grudges. And I know 573 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 5: because I hold like I have had grudges for like 574 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 5: twenty years, Like I'm full in the paint, like I 575 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: stand intoes down on something and I'm like you. 576 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: Just I love you, but I think so too. 577 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: I think, Kathy, I just want to let you know, 578 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: if you are listening to this, I'm staying out of it, 579 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: so just just let you know. 580 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: Me and are cool invited us down to Austin. 581 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: We love our. 582 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: Zing. 583 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: So when you guys, when you guys go back to 584 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: the finale for what is it called the jury of something? 585 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: The Jury of peers? 586 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: The Jury of Peers? Yeah, were you were? You guys 587 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: completely shocked over the whole Sean Cat Cat's got a 588 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: boyfriend who she's touched. 589 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good shot at you just did. 590 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: What you just did? 591 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 4: Was what you? Yeah, like how you not be shocked? 592 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: I didn't know really about any of that, so I 593 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: was kind of I was kind of surprised. 594 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we were just like fresh off getting eliminated. Also, 595 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 5: so like I think we got eliminated and they were like, surprise, 596 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: you're not going home. We were like, what. 597 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: Back? 598 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 5: And like obviously at that moment, we like had a 599 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 5: little bit of revenge in our mind. I think that's 600 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 5: why we were black, and we were like, you know, 601 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: we're gonna be do all that. But then we were 602 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 5: also just like we love these people like they are friends, 603 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: and when we got they were just like, ah, you 604 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 5: know whatever, whatever revenge. But yeah, I think that was 605 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 5: really crazy. Like we were very shocked. I know, Sean 606 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 5: and Alicia, did you work with me? But they just 607 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: let me know that they were going to like talk 608 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 5: about things they wanted everyone to know, like the truth 609 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 5: or you know whatever. They wanted to get things off 610 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 5: their chest. And I was like, and it's hard because 611 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: I think in that moment, you don't want to be 612 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: seen like going around and having small conversations. So it's 613 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 5: like your face with two evils. It's like do you 614 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 5: address the whole group or do you go around to 615 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: everyone and have all these conversations and so. 616 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you do see her say that in the 617 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: finale where she's like, do we make the wrong decision? 618 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 3: But like the alternative is pulling everyone one by one, 619 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: and then that's also sneaky. I mean I feel like 620 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: they were committed to saying their piece. It was more 621 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: just a matter of like. 622 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 2: How they were. 623 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 5: I think that's why they stayed because they were like, 624 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 5: we have this information and we wanted to be shared. 625 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, shocking for sure. Yeah, I was shocking. I 626 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 5: feel like every day in Paradise was shocking. I never 627 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 5: had a dull moment. We were for every day finding who. 628 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: Did you guys vote for for the Jury of Peers 629 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: did you vote for? 630 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 5: We voted differently. I voted for Jesson Spencer to share 631 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: the prize money with Alex and Andrew Jeremy Crudges. 632 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: In the in the reunion, voted for no one to 633 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: move forward and as they were already like the finals 634 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: at that point and nothing to do. By the way, 635 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: Spencer and Dale are both good friends of mine, like 636 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: I love them both, but nothing to do besides the 637 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: fact that they both sent me home. They both voted 638 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: to send me home, Like, why would I not vote 639 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: to send you home? 640 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: You half a million? I'm not going to give you 641 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: half a million. 642 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like me and Spencer talked. We talked about 643 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: it that night. We've talked about it multiple times. We 644 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: talked about it yesterday. 645 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, we were still friends when that happened. We're still 646 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: friends after. And honestly, I also was just like, I know, 647 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: if Justin Spencer doing, they're going to take us a 648 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 5: Disney on an all expense paid vacation, So I'm. 649 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: In it and not for nothing. I also knew that 650 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: I was probably one of the only people voting like that, 651 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: Like I knew no matter what, that justin Spencer moving forward. 652 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh gotcha. 653 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it was a surprise as a 654 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: viewer that that's kind of how how the vote swung. 655 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: If you guys had been the only couple at the 656 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: end and it was between each other or half a 657 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: mil have you thought about what you would have done. 658 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: We talked about this once because while we were still there, 659 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: we were like, what if the final challenge is choosing 660 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: money or love, Like, yeah, like, I'll take the money 661 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 4: for us, so we have money, and then we'll just 662 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: rekindle the next day. 663 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 5: And whenever the contract goes out, Like I mean. 664 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's just like so that like like why 665 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: what did you do? 666 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why because people are like too scared 667 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: to look like a like a douchebag on TV, Like 668 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 4: I will gladly do that for a quarter million that 669 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: we get a split, Yeah, for half a million, however 670 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: much it was gonna be. 671 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, family's just standing there like Jeremy's down with 672 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: a bag of money. 673 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: She's like see you tomorrow. 674 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: Me to New York and like I'd already like obviously 675 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 4: we could just like bem each other the next day 676 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: or something, but I'd already like memorize our phone number. 677 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: Like it was like he was like, I know who 678 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 5: I'm texting is. We thought we're going to be like separated. Also, 679 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: we got eliminated and we actually just got to leave together, 680 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: which was really nice. Like fully, so he was like 681 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: memorizing my phone number so that he could text me 682 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: as soon as we got our phones. But yeah, we 683 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 5: did talk about it, and obviously, you know, I was 684 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 5: going to pick love because that's me, and he was 685 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 5: going to pick money so that we could survive and 686 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: do everything we wanted. 687 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: So the way the ship, the way the show used 688 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: to work and it kind of still does, is it 689 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: was an engagement at the end. You guys were close 690 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: to the end, did you have a conversation about a 691 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: potential engagement. 692 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the conversation for us is like that 693 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: we're not ready for that yet. I'm very happy for 694 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 4: Justin Spencer, love them both, but like we were, even 695 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 4: though we're in the show, we're also trying to take 696 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: it like normal life, which which is hard to do. 697 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: I asked her to be my girlfriend. At the end, 698 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: I thought that was a big step. I would never 699 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: have done that, if you know, I wasn't serious about it. 700 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: But I don't think either of us would have been 701 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: ready for a real engagement after you know, a few weeks, 702 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 4: no matter how well you get to know someone after 703 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: a few weeks, and neither of us like wanted just 704 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: get engaged for the hell of it. 705 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I definitely didn't want to. I think also 706 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: just like where we were emotionally, I can't fathom us 707 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 5: getting engaged and then like if it didn't work in 708 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: the real world, I would be like very distraught. So 709 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: I feel like, obviously you come to the show thinking 710 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: you might get engaged, Like did I bring address? Of course, 711 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: I'm prepared for everything, but I was. I think as 712 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 5: we kind of got closer, we were just like, oh wait, 713 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 5: we just can't fathom doing this right now for us 714 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: at least, Like I think we really wanted to like 715 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 5: acclimate into normal life, and we knew that we had 716 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 5: distance and a lot of things in the way, and 717 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 5: just we wanted to make sure that that would work 718 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 5: outside of Paradise too, so and it does. Yeah, and 719 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 5: it doesn't. So I feel like, you know, everyone's on 720 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 5: their own timeline and everyone else, everyone has different goals 721 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: in mind, and I feel like we made the right 722 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 5: decision for us. And yeah we're really happy. 723 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like regardless of what anyone says, Like we're a 724 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: couple that got engaged and it worked. But like there's 725 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: a big part of doing that. There's like a lot convolved. 726 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: We got lots a risk. 727 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: That's a big risk because you really do only know 728 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: each other for eighteenth days. 729 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were like, well, sales go, Like if that 730 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: was it. 731 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: Was if it was the regularly, if we were in 732 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: the real world and I met Serena and then eighteenth 733 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: days later I asked her to marry me, she would 734 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: have been she would be like, this guy's like, I'm. 735 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 2: Gonna gettraining, right. 736 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean on the flip side, I do slightly 737 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: get in the sunset, like time moves different. Yeah, eighteen 738 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: definitely or however long on. 739 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 5: Parents three years. That's three years, so. 740 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: It's you know, bach Nation is small in terms of 741 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: the contestants that have been on the show. Is it 742 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: going to be awkward if you guys run into Susie. 743 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: Have you run into. 744 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 5: Susie Actually, so I feel like I have so much 745 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 5: love for Susie. I think she's literally the greatest person ever. 746 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 5: She's so sweet, she's so amazing, she's so nice. And actually, 747 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 5: after I don't know what episode it was, but after 748 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 5: basically the phone call came to light, she sent me 749 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: literally the sweetest message I've ever received. It was very 750 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 5: long and I had to take some time to actually 751 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 5: read it because I was overwhelmed in that moment, but 752 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 5: the message was really encouraging and I and you know, 753 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 5: she just let me in on like a little bit 754 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: of details about their date and how Jeremy spoke about 755 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 5: me on the date, and she was like, I know 756 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 5: he had moments of doubt, but she was like, on 757 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 5: the date, I knew that he wasn't going to pick me. 758 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: I knew he was going to pick you based on 759 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: how he spoke about you. And I think that was 760 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 5: a really you know, calming thread. And she's always sending 761 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 5: me nice messages and I sent her a really grateful 762 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 5: message for that, And you know, I'm always going to 763 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 5: support her and cheer her on, and hopefully when I'm 764 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 5: in La again, we'll find some time to like hang 765 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 5: out and do something because I actually met her at 766 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 5: like grant afr SO and she was so sweet then, 767 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 5: so yeah, I think we'll definitely continue a friendship. And 768 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 5: I feel like there's no there's no bad blood, there's 769 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 5: no beef. Obviously, we wish that her name like wouldn't 770 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 5: have been dragged on for so long. I think that 771 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 5: that's really hard for her to have to like deal with. 772 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 5: It's like, dang, she's still getting brought up. You know, yeah, 773 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: it's hard for both of us. But I do really 774 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 5: feel for her. I feel like of just being like, okay, 775 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 5: you left and then like you know, that next episode 776 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: happened where her name is brought up again, but and 777 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 5: then later it's like four episodes later, it's like it's 778 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 5: still brought up. So yeah, that was intense. I also 779 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 5: feel like the comment on the finale of Susie who 780 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 5: was a little bit intense and very unnecessary. I don't 781 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 5: even think he didn't even notice it, but I did, 782 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my god, that's really intense 783 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 5: because that's really not how we view it. There's no like, 784 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 5: you know, bad blood. Obviously, he's like keeping distance because 785 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 5: that would be crazy. But you know, I have. I 786 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 5: really do, like think she's an amazing person. 787 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, wow, that's so nice that she reached 788 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: out to you and like kind of supported both of. 789 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 2: You in that way, like in like your relationship journey. 790 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: He's such a good person. I feel like she's really 791 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 5: honestly just like making jokes and laughs about it. And 792 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 5: I think that's all that you can do, like is 793 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 5: just be silly about it, because there's no bad blood. 794 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: Any for a couple. You guys have you went through 795 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of backlash and you guys have 796 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: made it through. You made it through the storm. Any 797 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: advice you would give to a couple that kind of 798 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: goes through it, you know, next season. 799 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 4: Of Paradise, Yeah, I'll give the advice that I give 800 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 4: to her, which is like stay off Reddit. Who cares 801 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 4: that these fifty people are saying like don't look in 802 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 4: the like I could tell for her the difference, Like 803 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 4: if we wake up one morning and she looks at 804 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: like comments on like Instagrams or doesn't like, I could 805 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 4: tell the difference in how she's acting. Yeah, it's I 806 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: mean it's much easier, Like I have pretty thick skin 807 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 4: and you get tens of thousands of comments, like they 808 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 4: could start to get to you and it gets to 809 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 4: a point where it's hard not to look. But also 810 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 4: after being through it all that like try to stay 811 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: out of the comments and like just laughing, Yeah, laugh 812 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 4: like maybe laugh at it like after the drums. 813 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. And I think also just like I think also 814 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 5: Alexandrew mentioned this at the reunion, but just being able 815 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 5: to like restart your relationship when you come home. Obviously 816 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 5: you take the foundation that you built in Paradise, but 817 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 5: I think also just restarting and living normal life together 818 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 5: is really important. And I think that's what really like 819 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 5: helped us and made us realize that we really do 820 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 5: like love each other. This like love that we started 821 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 5: with and felt while we were there actually did translate 822 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 5: for us. And I think that was really important too. 823 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 5: And yeah, spending a lot of time together. I feel 824 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 5: like coming you go from Paradise where you're with each 825 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 5: other all day every day, you barely spend time alone. 826 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 5: And so I think it was really important for us 827 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 5: to always keep planning trips and like making you know, 828 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 5: as many advanced plans as we can of just look 829 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 5: forward to. 830 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 4: That was super important because we both obviously been in 831 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 4: like long distance relationships, and we both didn't want that, 832 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 4: so we were like, we need to put an effort there. 833 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 4: And it's honestly been super easy and we spend like 834 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 4: the majority of the time we're really next to each 835 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: other since since the show ended filming. 836 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 837 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's the correct advice. Well, 838 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: well I do, I do, I actually, but that's kind 839 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: of what I've always said. Thank you guys so much 840 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: for coming on. I I truly think you guys are 841 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna make it like all the way. That's that's my 842 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: that's my prediction. 843 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: We believe, and you guys were really happy for you guys. 844 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: I do believe in you guys. So yeah, congrats on everything. 845 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 4: Thank you you guys in the York. 846 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. 847 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: And to our listeners, thank you guys so much for 848 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: listening to Better Happy Hour. 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