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Speaker 1: every Thursday at ten am. But Dane, it really has

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Speaker 1: stuff like, he's good to go, Katie. Here here's your assignment.

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Speaker 1: Uh Rashawn's working out in Frisco right now, so just

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Speaker 1: look at it, Michael Gallup, He's entering a contract year.

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Speaker 1: Is it realistic you're going to be able to resign

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Speaker 1: him when you've got you know, Amari with his contract

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Speaker 1: and you eventually are thinking you're going to resign Ceedee

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Speaker 1: Lamb And you know, maybe Kyle Pitts can slide in

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Speaker 1: there and you know, really serve as a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: for you. You know, Kyle Pitts. I think when you

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Speaker 1: when you stack the players in this draft, good luck

434
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Speaker 1: trying to find five players better than him. You know,

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Speaker 1: just talent wise, he's that good. Um, It's just more

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Speaker 1: about how does he project to your offense? Do you

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Speaker 1: have the creativity and the understanding of his strengths to

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Speaker 1: implement his skills. Not every offensive coordinator is going to

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Speaker 1: be up to that, um, But you know, I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a terrific weapon. Where he ends

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Speaker 1: up the Giants, I think that makes sense. They're missing

442
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Speaker 1: that playmaker. He can be a Plexico Burrs for them.

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Speaker 1: He could be that playmaker for them. So I think

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Speaker 1: it makes sense, even though Giants fans are a little

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Speaker 1: a little gun shy after Evan Ingram has kind of

446
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Speaker 1: been a disappointment after being a first round pick and

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Speaker 1: then certain you know, he was the other consideration there

448
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Speaker 1: for the for the Cowboys at ten and I you know,

449
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Speaker 1: he had a good National Championship performance. Uh didn't see

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Speaker 1: a lot of targets his way. I thought, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he there were some open moments Fields just didn't see

452
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Speaker 1: him the receiver that Curtain was covering. I think when

453
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Speaker 1: he runs in the four fives, that's when we're gonna

454
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Speaker 1: hear a lot about Okay, is he fast enough to

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Speaker 1: go top ten? And this and that, and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a topic, a topic that's you know, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to death here. But there's there's no more NFL

458
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Speaker 1: ready corner in this draft than Patrick Surtain. I'm interested

459
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Speaker 1: about that, and I know, Ja you kind of knox

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Speaker 1: her Tan for that as well, potentially being a slower

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Speaker 1: forty right, Yeah, and it not in a it's weird

462
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Speaker 1: because when you start talking about guys that might go

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Speaker 1: in the top ten, and you mentioned the things that

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Speaker 1: you have concerns about you turn into a guy who

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Speaker 1: hates the player. Patrick Surtan's a really really good prospect,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I just I wonder like when they got

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Speaker 1: down to the goal line there, and I think it

468
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Speaker 1: was Garrett Wilson, they kind of gave him a little

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Speaker 1: hesitation and ran a fade. If Fields sees that throws

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Speaker 1: that it's an easy touchdown. And that's just that's my

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Speaker 1: one thing about patrick's Urtan is how do you match

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Speaker 1: up with guys that are shifty, nuanced rout runners in

473
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Speaker 1: man coverage. I think he's a really good prospect. I

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Speaker 1: have questions about that aspect because I just don't know

475
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Speaker 1: how fast and quick he is. He's really really good

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Speaker 1: and I'd love to have him on the team, but

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Speaker 1: those are my questions. The answer is hiring a new

478
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator or run a lot of Cover three, because

479
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Speaker 1: I do think he's pretty perfect for that with what

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Speaker 1: they're moving too. With a lot of cover three, Dan

481
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Speaker 1: Quinn and Patrick Curtain's gonna be pretty ideal for that.

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman did pretty good with his four to six

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Speaker 1: something forty and a Cover three for his career, not

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Speaker 1: comparing the two by the way. I don't want anyone

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Speaker 1: to freak out or anything, but I think I think

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Speaker 1: curtain makes a lot of sense in a cover three

487
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Speaker 1: type situation. Katy's looking ahead on the rundown a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that coming up here in this

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Speaker 1: next segment. No, it was good, No, it was good.

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect analysis there, Katie. Final highlight that

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Speaker 1: I thought I had from the from the mock draft.

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Speaker 1: But Christian Barmore the first defensive tackle off the board.

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Speaker 1: He goes off the board at twenty five, and I

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Speaker 1: mean he's I think a fantastic player. He showed out

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Speaker 1: again in the National Championship game and he just looks

496
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Speaker 1: like a game changer. Dane. But Dane, was there a

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Speaker 1: pick maybe after the Cowboys? That was your favorite fit

498
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Speaker 1: of the draft? I don't want to really talk top ten.

499
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Speaker 1: I'm talking pretty much at anything after that. But was

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Speaker 1: there anything that stuck out to you as this is

501
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Speaker 1: the perfect fit, because I thought Barmore was pretty perfect there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that that certainly fits. I mean

503
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Speaker 1: there were a couple of Christian Derris out to the Chargers.

504
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Speaker 1: I mean they need to protect Justin Herbert. I thought

505
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Speaker 1: that was a great fit. Jalen Waddle to the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on at quarterback there, but

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Speaker 1: we know they need playmakers, and Jalen Waddle is certainly

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Speaker 1: a playmaker. You know, I thought there were definitely a

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Speaker 1: few h you mentioned Barmore. Barmore's interesting because he's only

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Speaker 1: a Richard sophomore. He hasn't officially declared yets with weight

511
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Speaker 1: on that official decision, but you know, you could tell

512
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Speaker 1: the second half of the year he's just getting better

513
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Speaker 1: and better and better. There's so much potential, there's so

514
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Speaker 1: much ability that by the time the draft gets here,

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Speaker 1: we might be talking about Barmore as a possibility at

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Speaker 1: number ten because he's just so talented of a player

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Speaker 1: and so a Barnmore's definitely a name to keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on. There's two really unfair ones that Dane had

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Speaker 1: on there. Chris Elave going to the Saints, another Ohio

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Speaker 1: State guy crossed from Michael Thomas, and man Cadarius Tony

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Speaker 1: from Florida the lade receiver to the Chiefs. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: can the league have a chance? Give us a chance?

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Speaker 1: I also like Naja Harris to the Bucks. I mean

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Speaker 1: Bruce arians he is desperate, desperately wanting that pass catching back.

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Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett's kind of filling that role this year, but

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Speaker 1: you know, good chance he's not back next year. Naja

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Speaker 1: Harris plug him in right there. This is a win

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Speaker 1: now team. You know that window is closing at a

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Speaker 1: player like Naja Harris in the first round, and just

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Speaker 1: I think that'd be just another boost to that offense.

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Speaker 1: I also like green Bay picking up Davian Nixon, the

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of Iowa at thirty one. I think

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Speaker 1: him being an interior presence for that green Bay defense

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Speaker 1: would be something really exciting to see. Now, all of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs shifting and kind of the way that things

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Speaker 1: are going to work out from the playoffs will change

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Speaker 1: these picks around. But I like what you you had

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Speaker 1: going there day whenever it comes to some of these

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Speaker 1: late round guys. Even Joseph A said, the edge rusher

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Speaker 1: out of Texas going to Baltimore, that's scary too, I think,

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Speaker 1: and seeing him with the Ravens would be something very entertaining. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's step aside. When we come back twitter on the twenty,

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Speaker 1: are the Cowboys looking at a specific type of defender?

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Speaker 1: and it's time now for some twitter on the twenty

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Speaker 1: on the twenty of course, Chris Beam always doing great

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Speaker 1: start things off with you, Jeff. I want Jeff Cavanaugh

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Speaker 1: this comes from Shane. Shane says, what are the type

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Speaker 1: of defenders that dan Quinn, new defensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys might be looking at in this up coming drafts?

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Speaker 1: Specifically at linebacker in the cornerback spot after all the

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Speaker 1: first rounders are gone. But I kind of want to

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Speaker 1: throw the first round in there too, because we talked

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Speaker 1: about a little bit of Patrick's or Tan a little

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Speaker 1: bit ago with Kat. But what kind of specific players

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Speaker 1: are we're looking to throw into that cover three scheme

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Speaker 1: with dan Quinn? Well, I think you just you mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: If you're picturing the dan Quinn Seattle, then you're talking

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Speaker 1: about four down linemen, you're talking about a lot of

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Speaker 1: Cover three. You're talking about a free safety who can

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Speaker 1: cover a ton of ground and fix mistakes there on

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Speaker 1: the back end. But I don't think that's very much

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Speaker 1: different than what they would have been looking for anyway.

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Speaker 1: Like the entire league is looking for a free safety

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Speaker 1: that can get sideline to sideline and cover ground. The

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Speaker 1: entire league is looking for corners that are long and

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Speaker 1: can run and can play the ball. So I actually

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Speaker 1: don't think I mean, I guess it's technically different than

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Speaker 1: if it were Mike Nolan, and you might have been

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Speaker 1: looking for something a little bit different, But I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's all that different than what you might have

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Speaker 1: been looking for if say Rod Marinelli and Chris Richard

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Speaker 1: You'd love to find a corner that's tall, long, fast,

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Speaker 1: and can play the ball in the air. Linebacker, I

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Speaker 1: think your two might be on the roster. But defensive line,

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Speaker 1: you're probably looking for guys that are capable of playing

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Speaker 1: the run on the way to rushing the passer as

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Speaker 1: opposed to just shooting gaps. But that's just top of

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Speaker 1: my head what I think that That's what I think

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Speaker 1: of when I think of Dan Quinn defenses. Is those

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Speaker 1: things Katy, Well, yeah, And I think it was very

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Speaker 1: interesting And I didn't know this to find out that

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn had quite a bit more say in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that that if I had the hiden

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Speaker 1: more safe. You take a look back at his draft history,

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Speaker 1: this might make Jeff excited some Cowboys fans excited just

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Speaker 1: a few things that he's done. I think back to

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, in the third round, he took Deetrons, not

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Speaker 1: he's not He wasn't scared to spend a premium pick.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's not just him making the calls, right,

639
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Speaker 1: but he had a big say in personnel in Atlanta.

640
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: So the investment in a one technique defensive tackle might

641
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: be something He did. Try to take a lot of,

642
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, long cornerbacks Isaiah Oliver in twenty eighteen, you

643
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: know Jalen Collins back in his first year in twenty fifteen,

644
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: and that was the year that they drafted both Vic

645
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: Beasley and Grady Jarrett, who's all pro of course, but

646
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: like they spent a lot of resources on defense in

647
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: his time there in Atlanta, and just for some reason,

648
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: you just weren't able to get that defense to be,

649
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, one of the upper tier defenses in the league.

650
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: And that's a little frustrating and maybe a little concerning,

651
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: would you look at it. But you know, players make

652
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: this happen, not coaches, and that's the most important thing

653
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: to think about, is like the players just gotta be good.

654
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I really, I really feel better about Donovan Wilson's role

655
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: here now if your plan is to do a lot

656
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: of Cover three, and again we don't know, Dan quib

657
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: maybe making some sneaky adjustments, but if you're gonna play

658
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: a lot of cover three, getting a lot of safety

659
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: up near the line of scrimmage, I feel much better

660
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: about Donovan Wilson's prospects as a starter on this team

661
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: moving forward. Dan, Yeah, you know, I think that's something

662
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: that we've learned, you know, the last five seven years,

663
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys front office, how willing they've been to draft,

664
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: specifically for the attitude of the coaches and what exactly

665
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: they're looking for. Whether you know, and that doll hasn't

666
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: always worked out, you know, talking about you know a

667
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton or the defensi Tago from UCF who has

668
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: been so irrelevant already forgot his name, Crystal Hills, Yes,

669
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Triston Hill. Uh you know obviously they that hasn't worked out,

670
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys front office has been very willing to, uh,

671
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, address the needs that best fit the scheme

672
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: and what the coaches want. And I think when you

673
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: look at this class, uh linebacker, there's some really intriguing

674
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: mid round, you know, linebackers I think fit what coach

675
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: Quinn wants to do. Um. One guy just down the

676
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: road at TCU, Garrett Wallow, number thirty. Uh. You know

677
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: you turn on the TCU tape to watch the safeties,

678
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: but there's number thirty just running around like his head

679
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: cut off, just hitting dudes. Very very active player it Uh.

680
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: You know there's sometimes that leads over pursuit and being

681
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: too aggressive, but you love that active play style. Tony

682
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Fields at West Virginia is another one who a little undersized,

683
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: but he can run and that you're looking for that speed.

684
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: So um, you know I've done you know, I've talked

685
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: with coach Quinn before, and I've really enjoyed our talks

686
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: because he he's a coach that gets it um, He's

687
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: a he's a thinking type of coach. You know. One

688
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: thing that really stood out to me, you know, when

689
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: I talked to him before, has been his understanding of

690
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: what wins on offense and you know, trying to limit

691
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: that and the biggest thing or explosive plays. He understands

692
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: that how to try what you have to do to

693
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: try to stop those explosive plays, and that's what you

694
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: have to do to win on defense in today's NFL.

695
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: So I think it's a great hire and I'm looking

696
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: forward to seeing how that will manifest itself on the draft.

697
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: That's something you have to do successfully as a defensive

698
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: coordinator is understand the offensive game and how it's evolved.

699
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: And I think that might be one of the big

700
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: knocks against Dan Quinn during his time in Atlanta was

701
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: the fact that, hey, he came from a defensive scheme

702
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: and then hey, he figured out how to play a

703
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: little bit of offense with Matt Ryan and company as

704
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: a head coach, and then he tried to take the

705
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: defense back over. It didn't have any success. That's one

706
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: of my big worries is how can he find a

707
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: way to get back to that Seattle form of thinking

708
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: and that Seattle's success of adjusting with the modern off

709
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: fence and adjusting with these mobile quarterbacks that he's gonna

710
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: have to deal with more so now than he had

711
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: maybe back in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. So that's

712
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: something that I think we'll have to look for and

713
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: maybe go into the personnel that he ends up selecting

714
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: whenever he does get his first shot at it. Okay,

715
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: So the second question comes from Randall. He says, what

716
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: would be one scenario in the first round that would

717
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: elicit a pin throw moment? Katie? Where would you just

718
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: chuck that pin? If blank ended up happening in April?

719
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: I think I know the player that Jeff is gonna say.

720
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

721
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna go away from that here. If for me, it

722
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: would be if they just did something out of this

723
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: world and did like maybe they reached for Dressau or

724
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: maybe they reached for Vera Tucker from you USC or

725
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm saying again, I'm saving this for

726
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: Jeff because I'm gonna give him the player that I

727
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: think he's going to mention. But that would be the

728
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: pin throw moment I think for me is if they

729
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: reached for someone who was maybe the third, fourth, fifth

730
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: player at their position in the draft. When you're picking

731
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: at ten and it's right there in front of you,

732
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: time to do anything crazy, take the good player. That

733
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: would a taco like situation, if you will. That would

734
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: be the pin throw moment for me. I'll say this

735
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: at ten, it's really hard to screw it up. Oh

736
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you could screw it up. If you picked Gregory Rousseau.

737
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: I would say, Miami defensive end. He can't play. He's

738
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: not good. He had eighteen sacks and he's not good.

739
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my guy. That's my guy. Dane's gonna

740
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: mock him in the top half of the first round,

741
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: so is everybody else. Everybody's gonna tell me he's so

742
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: long and he's so athletic, and you're gonna watch him

743
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: on tape just light up in the middle and run

744
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: around to guard and guards in the NFL aren't gonna

745
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: let you do that. And he doesn't win from the outside.

746
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know how athletic he is. He's just

747
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: a tall dude that accidentally got a bunch of sacks

748
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: you don't want. Gregory Rousseau and the first room. I

749
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: like him a little bit more than that, but I mean,

750
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I do agree with you. He's, you know, being a

751
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: little bit overrated as a top half, a round one

752
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: type of guy. When you look at it, there's probably

753
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: only you know, one position that would be drafted ahead

754
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys that you know that would you know

755
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: they're not going to take, and that's wide receiver. You know,

756
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna draft the quarterback, but even

757
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: a quarterback you would like to see there at number

758
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: ten for those trade possibilities like Katie mentioned. So you know,

759
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: if you see three wide receivers go off the board

760
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: in the first nine picks, that's that, you know, that's

761
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: the fake pen throw because you know you feel good

762
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: that you're not taking receiver there. Every other position could

763
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: be on the board for them. Gregory Rosso six foot five,

764
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds and Dan you had him

765
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: mock to fourteenth to Minnesota, So just four picks behind

766
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to Minnesota in your mock draft. The other day,

767
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: do you, And you said he's a little bit overrated

768
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: for maybe a top half of the draft. But whenever

769
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Rousseau, and I know

770
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: we'll probably talk about him on multiple occasions, especially after

771
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: he probably goes and lights up the combine, But is

772
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: it more so just the prospect and the potential of

773
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: that frame and that athleticism rather than maybe the tape

774
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: that he already put out in college even though there

775
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: was production. Yeah, And here's the thing is when you

776
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: factor in his journey. He was a wide receiver in

777
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: high school and he moved to defensive end as a senior.

778
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: As a Richard freshman, had all this production and then

779
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: it didn't play this past year as a Richard sophomore.

780
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: So you think his ceiling is going to be so

781
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: much more And that's really where it's going to get

782
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: interesting with the projection of a guy like Gregory Rousso.

783
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: So it's it's definitely some risk, involved, a lot of risk.

784
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: I understand why someone are going to be intrigued, But

785
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: the top half of round one, that's that's pretty rich

786
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: to take a player like that. In my opinion, it's

787
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: it's a little different because this player did not line

788
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: up inside like Gregory roussetted, but kind of measurable wise,

789
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: a little Leonard Floyd who went seventh a few years ago,

790
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys actually did have interest in a guy

791
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: who struggled early in the league and has kind of

792
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: put it together as he's become a veteran. That's the

793
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: whole thing, as a guy who had a year off

794
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, Like, how do I know that he's

795
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: gonna play lower, playing more consistently with his hands, uh,

796
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: and not just win based on his physical traits? How

797
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: do I know that that's difficult? That's you. You're a

798
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: roll in the dice. If you're taking him at ten,

799
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: that is just kind of out of this world, rolling

800
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: the dice. But there will be guys who are in

801
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: love with him. There will be teams who are in

802
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: love with him. Leonard Floyd could turn the corner. He

803
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: was a good as Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rousseau can't do that.

804
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Rousseau is a linear, weird player. That's just tall and long,

805
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: that's all he is. No, you're right, and I just

806
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: about to think comparison from a measurable standpoint, thin tall,

807
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, around the same way and I think Floyd

808
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: was a little bit about ten to fifteen pounds lighter

809
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: than Rousseau. But like just where they were taken though,

810
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The Cowboys like Leonard Floyd. If you're to

811
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: believe that Peter King article that came out where Peter

812
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: King was in the war room that night in twenty sixteen,

813
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: if you'll remember, the biggest thing that I think you

814
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: worry about with a guy like Rousseau is there's some

815
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: there's some similarities with him and Taco in terms of

816
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: what Jeff is saying about being long and linear and

817
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: not fully understanding how to use his skill set. And

818
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that. Now Rousseau is a

819
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: little freakier and his ceilings a little higher. But that

820
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: that's where the little bit of worry starts to creep in.

821
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: Dane just buried Rousseau in the minds of every Cowboys

822
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: fan that has ever listened to the Draft show. Because

823
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: of comparing anybody compared to Taco, Charleton's ultimately going to

824
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: end up writing them off and taking them off the

825
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: draft board. Okay, final question before we move on. Our

826
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: friend Bertie on Twitter says, how do these potential first

827
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: round corners compared to the previous years first round corners

828
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: in terms of their early grades. Now, of course, none

829
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: of the grades are complete right now at this point

830
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: in the draft process, but Dame, when you look at

831
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of this year compared to past years, where do

832
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: you have these corners slotted in with guys like Patrick

833
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Curtan and of course okay, with Farley and some of

834
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: those top prospects. And it's so tough to do this

835
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: because it's hard to eliminate what we know about these

836
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: corners at the NFL level. You know, it's hard to

837
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: eliminate the year that Okuda had and CJ. Henderson and

838
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: AJ Terrell and all these guys. I think Farley and

839
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: Certan would probably be if they were in last year's draft,

840
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: fighting with CJ. Henderson to be cornerback two behind Okuda,

841
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: So right there in that top ten conversation. You know,

842
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: I think they're better prospects than you know, AJ Terrell

843
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Um and some of the corners that were drafted after that.

844
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it could be tough to do

845
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: this type of exercise, but I do think that they'd

846
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: be still in that top ten conversation fighting out to

847
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: be the second corner drafted. Does that intrigue you, Katy? Uh? Yeah,

848
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean I again, Dave said, it's very difficult and

849
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: for me, Um, maybe I'm losing my mind already. Some

850
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: of the years run together. I just pulled up my

851
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen draft board and it was really Latimore and

852
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: everyone else and Tredevious Whites turned out to be the

853
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: best cornerback of that group right there. I had it

854
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: first run grade on him. Um, but I can't tell

855
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: you that I think I'd have a higher grade on

856
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: based on my films study, a higher grade on Farley

857
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: in certain than I did on Tredevious White. Um. But

858
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm also a guy who liked tease Tabors so kill me,

859
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: you know. So wow, Yeah, that's a lot. That's a

860
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: little harsh. Yeah, I agree. I think if I don't

861
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: even have all the names in front of me right now,

862
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: but if you go back like when Denzel Ward was

863
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: coming out, or Marshaun Lattimore or Jalen Ramsey last year,

864
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Jeff Okuda, all of those guys I would have ahead

865
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: of where you have Sir Tan and Farley, and yeah,

866
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: those guys would be it would be okay. C J.

867
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: Henderson versus sur tan and they would be very different,

868
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: and it would be very close, and I might have

869
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: Henderson ahead. But yeah, that's you know what. Each year,

870
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: I think there's been a guy that I would think

871
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: is a close to elite corner prospect, and I wouldn't

872
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: have Sir Tanner Farley ahead of any of those guys.

873
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: I think you can make some pretty close comparisons between

874
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: Farley and CJ. Henderson. I think they you know, good

875
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: sized athletes, you know good speed. They're discipline is something

876
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: that needs to be improved, but I think they're pretty

877
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: similar players. Yeah, I don't see either one of these

878
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: guys classified, like Jeff said, as an elite corner from

879
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: back prospect. They're both really really good and they deserve

880
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: to be in the top fifteen conversation. But I think overall,

881
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: when you look at kind of the film study between

882
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: guys like a Denzel Award in the past or a

883
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Jeff o'cuda last year, I know those are both Ohio

884
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: State guys, but still it's not necessarily that same level.

885
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: Even a Lattimore back in the past. Those guys that

886
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: continue to be elite prospects after coming out of school.

887
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't see Farley Orcertan up to that level. But CJ. Henderson,

888
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: I like what you kind of through out there, Dane,

889
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to those two guys, at least whenever

890
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: it comes to Farley as the comparison there. But that's

891
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: gonna do it for Twitter on the twenty. This week,

892
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: when we come back, we're gonna hit the second round

893
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: of Dane's mock draft, and hey, the Cowboys might go

894
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: safety a little bit earlier than they have in almost

895
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931
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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,920
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933
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,480
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934
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: here from Dame Brugler in the Athletic and kind of

935
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: talk about what he had for the Cowboys at forty four. Now,

936
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a run of edge rushers

937
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: right before the Cowboys selecting at forty four, So three

938
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: from three edge rushers taken from forty through forty three

939
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: right before that Dallas pick, and Dallas ends up taking

940
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: TCU free safety Trayvon Moig, a guy who I know, Jeff,

941
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: you're very high on, but you're not even as high

942
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: on him as maybe even his teammate and Darius Washington.

943
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: But overall, what did you think about the pick? Mister

944
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh and kind of where the Cowboys went here in

945
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: the second round, the highest they would have picked the

946
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: safety since two thousand and two. That works for me,

947
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: I think marig is. I think he's a he's a

948
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: really good prospect. I think he's one of the top

949
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: two safeties in this draft. He alluded to it. I

950
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: actually prefer his five foot eight teammate. I think I

951
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: think our Darius Washington's only weaknesses that he's five foot eight,

952
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: and I think he's got I think he's a quicker reactor.

953
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: I think he's got better instincts. I think he's a

954
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: better man and zone coverage guy than his own teammate.

955
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: But there's something good about being six one six two

956
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: over two hundred pounds and being a good safety prospect.

957
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: Then I'll probably get him picked before Washington. But yeah,

958
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: you nailed it. I like our Darius Washington. He's my guy.

959
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: I like my tiny guy. Dane did The fact that

960
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: there was a bit of an edge rusher run right

961
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: at the top of the forties kind of deter you

962
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: away from the Cowboys maybe making a pick like an

963
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: ad rusher there. Well, you know, I think the Cowboys,

964
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: obviously if they especially they go offensive line in the

965
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: first round. Um, you know, I think it's fair to

966
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: say they're going defense in the second round and edge rusher,

967
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, linebacker, corner, safety. I mean, they could go

968
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: any of those positions, right, So it really opens it

969
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: up to going with the best player available there on defense.

970
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, I thought I'd be

971
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: going corner just because that looks like it could be

972
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: a need area, especially for a starter. But with no

973
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: safety's drafted up to that point, and you know, Xavier Woods.

974
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, we all love the pick with the value

975
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: that we got with Woods, but safe to say I

976
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: don't think he's the future of that position for the Cowboys.

977
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, a chance to go get the top free

978
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: safety in the draft, that's certainly appealing with Morick and

979
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, you you alluded to. I was kind of

980
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: surprised this would be the highest that they draft since

981
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: Roy Williams that draft a position. So you have to

982
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: wonder how much of a philosophy is it. We know

983
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: this team does not believe in drafting nose tackle was early,

984
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: which I agree with. I get. Do they have a

985
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, a tendency to look at safety the same way,

986
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, just their drafting history would say maybe, And

987
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: so you know, would they consider a safety at this

988
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: point he even knew Byron Jones he was a first rounder,

989
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: played plenty of safety, even though I think they draft

990
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: him to be a corner. So you know, we have

991
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: to look at it, and they have plenty of opportunities

992
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: for a corner, for a safety. Here ed Rusher that

993
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned, there was a little bit of a run

994
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: on the first few picks ahead of it. Maybe that's

995
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: a direction they go. So if they go offensive line,

996
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of different avenues they could explore

997
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: in that second round. The swear it gets fun is

998
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: because Dane did it on a mock draft. You can

999
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: now question everything Dane did and just like we do

1000
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: after real drafts and even looking at drafts from the history,

1001
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: do you go, who could they have gotten after that?

1002
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Should they have done this? And about two picks later

1003
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: and Dane's mock draft at pick forty six, he's got

1004
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: in New England taking Levi on Woosery, the DT from Washington,

1005
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: who I would have you know, if we're just ranking,

1006
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm here, I would have him graded higher than moreg

1007
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: And I don't dislike moreg I don't have a safety

1008
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: graded in the top two rounds yet this year, still working,

1009
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, and hoping that someone does pop up there,

1010
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: but this year a little different. So for me, I'm

1011
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: fine it to pick there though. I like what Dan did.

1012
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I like the idea of the team actually taking the

1013
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: position seriously, but it picked forty four. Just looking at

1014
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: who went afterwards in this scenario and Dan's mock draft,

1015
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: I would be going in another direction. I think this

1016
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: team has to address defensive tackle. I think they I

1017
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: think it's a big leap of faith to go Antoine Woods,

1018
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, and the Bill Gallimore justin Hamilton. You're my guys,

1019
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: go get it, you know, and they'll try to do

1020
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: some things in freehency and all that stuff. But that's

1021
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: kind of the direction i'd be looking in this scenario.

1022
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: And you know, just because we're talking about this thing's

1023
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: on the draft show, I wanted to pick a different

1024
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: player too. No, I feel that, and I'm right there

1025
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: with you. I love what Dane's thinking here with the combination,

1026
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: especially if you go offense in the first round with

1027
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. I love the pairing of bow Rig

1028
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: playing that free safety and allowing Donovan Wilson to play

1029
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: the strong and kind of a bruiser role in dan

1030
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Quinn's defense. I would love that and I think it'd

1031
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: be a great pairing between the two. Now, the one

1032
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: question I did have, Dane is the fact that there

1033
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: were no corners. Like you said, you could have gone

1034
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: corner there, but that's still a position that has not

1035
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: been addressed in the first two rounds. I know Farley

1036
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Sertans off the board. JC Horn from South Carolina is

1037
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: not there anymore. I know Tyson Campbell from Georgia was

1038
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: off the board, and so was a Sante Samuel Jr.

1039
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: From Florida State. But why did you go with safety

1040
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: rather than corner in the secondary. Was it just the

1041
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: fact of a better prospect there or is there just

1042
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: not as much safety or excuse me, corner depth that

1043
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: would have intrigue the Cowboys to maybe spend the top

1044
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: two round pick on. No. I mean, I think there's

1045
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: enough corners. I think I had nine total corners going

1046
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: in the first two rounds, which is a lot. I

1047
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: think there will be corners there that they'll consider. One

1048
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: name to keep an eye on that I think could

1049
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: be in the mix for the Cowboys based off of

1050
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: what they do. Uh. He FATU melifon Wu. Uh, Katy,

1051
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: I know you've looked at him out of Syracuse, Jeff,

1052
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: not sure if you have yet. Uh, just a you know,

1053
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 1: we know about his older brother, Obie when he blew

1054
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: up to combine at a Yukon a couple of years

1055
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: years ago. He's still floating around the league. U melifon Wu,

1056
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: He's He's a big framed corner who is twitchy. Uh,

1057
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: He's fluid, He's got length, he's got speed. I think

1058
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: he's more reactive than instinctive. But when you have those traits, uh,

1059
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: you know you can He's got that loose muscle twitch,

1060
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: he can accelerate on command. Um. You know, the instinctive

1061
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: part of the game is still catching up in terms

1062
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: of his route recognition, finding the football, those types of things.

1063
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: But there's a lot to work with with melifon Wu.

1064
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: And I think that he could in play there with

1065
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys second pick there. And I think keep in

1066
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: mind that the Cowboys met with his brother when he

1067
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: was a free agent after he had been released, and

1068
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: maybe they met with him in the draft as well

1069
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: if he was one of the visits going back. I

1070
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: don't know how much time they spoi with him, but

1071
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: when he was a free agent looking for a job,

1072
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys brought him in for a visit, and I

1073
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: remember the feedback that I had heard, and it was

1074
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: kind of whispers that were getting around and media circles.

1075
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: Was kind of like, yeah, it just feels like his brother,

1076
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: ob he just doesn't care about football as much as

1077
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, we'd like, so you might have to you know,

1078
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: there might be some questions that you asked about about

1079
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: that with this kid. But I hate saying that i'mbout

1080
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: a kid I don't even know, right, but that was

1081
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: a thing with his brother, and I think that's that's

1082
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: important to know. There are times when you watch the

1083
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: Syracuse tape, I like it when when the actions on

1084
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: I like it. There are times when run played at

1085
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the field, and you know when

1086
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: the white receiver to spread offense just kind of takes

1087
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: the playoff where he's kind of with the wide receiver

1088
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: there and he's kind of taking the playoff too. But

1089
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: it's not like concerning. It's just like, Okay, there's a

1090
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: run play to the complete other side of the field.

1091
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: And he's just kind of melded in a few times.

1092
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: Just notice that a couple times nothing to nothing to

1093
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: go freak out about. But man, you start putting one

1094
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,959
Speaker 1: and two together with oh, I heard some things about

1095
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: us brother and it's like, well, no, he's a different

1096
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: human than his brothers, so don't okay, But I still

1097
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: have to think about the things, and those are stuff

1098
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: that scouts are gonna do. You know, they're gonna ask

1099
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: those questions. So I think that that's sometime I'm going

1100
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: to be watching for with Melipon was how he interviews

1101
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: with teams and things like that. But his tape is good, man,

1102
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: his tape's great. Katie. That's one of the things I

1103
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: love about you in your draft process. And Dan, you

1104
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: do this quite a bit as well, of course, and

1105
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: all of your work, but you look really into the person.

1106
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: And I know last year we had a couple of

1107
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: guys like that where you were saying, oh, off the

1108
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: field issues and maybe there's a character or maybe even

1109
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: a drive sort of deal. And I think that's very

1110
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: important because that's exactly what teams are looking at, that's

1111
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: what front offices are searching after. And you kind of

1112
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: get the background on it now, Jeff, whenever it comes

1113
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys not taking a linebacker, defensive tackle, or

1114
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: corner in the first two rounds instead going with the safety,

1115
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: going with an offensive tackle, I know there are a

1116
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: lot of holes, but those are three really really big

1117
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: holes on that defense that aren't addressed. How much does

1118
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: that worry you? I think the best teams know that

1119
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: there are multiple avenues to improving your team. So like

1120
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: in this scenario in Dan's mock, if you ever shown

1121
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: Slater is the best player available at number ten, you

1122
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: pick him. If you get to the second round and

1123
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: your best player available is Travon Morrig, then you pick

1124
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: him because that's also a position to need for this team,

1125
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: and then you just have to figure it out. I

1126
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: mean that's and they'll do this in free agency before

1127
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: the draft. They will sign a corner, they will probably

1128
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: sign a safety, they will sign a d tackle. They'll

1129
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: be capable of playing football without the draft, and then

1130
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: hopefully you can pick your best players and you can

1131
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: make it work. I mean, it's it's just look, this team,

1132
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: no matter what they go in the first two rounds,

1133
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: if you don't talk about what they're gonna do in

1134
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: free agency or what they're gonna do after or trades.

1135
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: They can't fix this defense. This defense needs at least

1136
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: one corner, at least one safety, at least one d tackle.

1137
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: I'd think about a linebacker, and you probably need to

1138
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: double dip at one or two of those spots. So

1139
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter which routes they go. You cannot

1140
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: fix or make a great defense out of this roster

1141
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: in one draft. Can't do it. Yeah, Casey, No, No,

1142
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Schreiden, It's like it's just not gonna happen. We

1143
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: all want them to go all defense or a lot

1144
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: of account offense. I think want them to go all

1145
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: defense in Carolina. And it's also we always forget about

1146
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: like not forget about it, but like we're do the

1147
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: draft shows, so we're talking about the draft, but this

1148
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: team doesn't. Free agency is going to be important to

1149
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: their plan. They can't strike out in free agency like

1150
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: they did last year. They just hand happen. I know.

1151
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: So that's freak bad luck with Gerald McCoy. They just

1152
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: can't happen. And then I think that's something that well,

1153
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: I'll have our eyes on because hey, it's it's our job.

1154
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: We're following the team here day. Yeah, and I think

1155
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: there's only so much you can do through the draft.

1156
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, they have a few extra picks on day

1157
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: or you know, after the first two rounds, so you know,

1158
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: you can address some of those and it will be

1159
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: interesting what they do in free agency that will shape

1160
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: what they do in the draft. It'll be also interesting

1161
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: to see how their board shapes up. So if they

1162
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: feel like they can get a linebacker later on, then

1163
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: that's going to shape how they look at linebacker in

1164
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: the first two rounds. If you can get into Garrett

1165
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: Wallow in the fourth round and they feel really good

1166
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: about that, then maybe that you know, they don't really

1167
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: strongly consider a linebacker in the first two rounds, but

1168
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: maybe they don't find that linebacker. And Zaven Collins is

1169
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that I've brought up before as

1170
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: a guy I know they really like. So it's and

1171
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think with Zaven Collins, he and we

1172
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: talk about that Seattle defense. Okay, plug him in. He's

1173
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: your kJ Wright and you feel good about that. So

1174
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: they're just so many different directions they can go. And

1175
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean to the other points mentioned, free agency will

1176
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: certainly shape the Hey, I'm glad you mentioned kJ right,

1177
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: kJ Wright, also Bruce Irvin and also Richard Sherman, all

1178
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: free agents. Just telling that out there, just damn you

1179
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 1: want to make it the legion of Boom two point

1180
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: zero down here in Dallas. Just kind of lone star

1181
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: legion of Boom. Oh. I like that. I like that.

1182
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: That sounds pretty legion of boomers because they're old. Oh

1183
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: that's good. That's even more so. I like that the

1184
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: legions Boomers coming to Arlington. This is fantastic. If you're

1185
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: thirty five and still clinging on to an NFL career,

1186
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: come on down to Dallas. Come on, Gerald McCoy, come on, everybody,

1187
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: let's get a part of it. Forget the draft. Let's

1188
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: just sign everybody in free agency. All right, that'll do

1189
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: it for us. Here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1190
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,360
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01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,680
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1192
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,080
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1193
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1194
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,480
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1195
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1196
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,080
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