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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stephone

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Speaker 1: never told you production if I hurtrid you, And welcome

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Speaker 1: to a very Star Wars rambling corner with me. You're

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Speaker 1: mostly talking Annie. I hope you'll interject Samantha. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I love this. We missed you.

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Speaker 2: For people who are listening chronologically, we missed you yesterday

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Speaker 2: and I said you may be gone doing a Star

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to say this is your bit, You're not.

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Speaker 1: I do feel bad. I am sorry. I am going

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Speaker 1: to detail the whole thing. Oh are you an upcoming

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Speaker 1: happy hour probably a couple of weeks from now. But

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Speaker 1: it has been a journey a Samantha knows to get

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Speaker 2: To be fair, you have drunk this out for about

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Speaker 2: six months now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but now I feel validated because everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I see why you waited so long.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there is that level of you waited this long,

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Speaker 2: but oh my god, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous, and is to go buy a house. I'm

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Speaker 1: on the edge. Part of it is Star Wars related because,

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Speaker 1: so much, So yes, I do, but I also want

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Speaker 1: to apologize because the reason we're doing this, it is

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Speaker 1: you were so stressed with this religious series that you've

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Speaker 1: research on. But it's like really heavy stuff, right, and

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Speaker 1: you said to me, like, please just do something with

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Speaker 2: I was like, we need, we need a break in

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Speaker 2: all of the sadness because not only did we do

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Speaker 2: weigh on rape culture and abuse culture, then I did

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, we need a break. Can you

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Speaker 1: see something cheerful? You love Star Wars, Let's do Star Wars.

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Speaker 2: It's around that time, anyway, come on, yes, it is

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Speaker 1: But I feel kind of bad though, because it's like

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Speaker 1: you're doing all this heavy stuff and you're like, now

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Speaker 1: you talk about the Star Wars, which is just something

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Speaker 1: I love to do. So it doesn't feel quite.

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Speaker 2: Even, but I hear no, no, it gives me a

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Speaker 1: May the fourth, we are actually recording this the day

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't, I do not blame Christina. It is

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Speaker 1: all of my faults, but and mine mostly mine this time.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's you time. Usually it's me. It's me. Let's

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Speaker 1: just really real. Well either way, it's not Christine's. We'll

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Speaker 1: What's happening? What's happening? Yes, And hilariously enough, our good

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of other things. Busamantha likes to annoy

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Speaker 1: the show, Marissa, hung out with me all weekend in

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Speaker 1: a very glorious, hilarious failed attempt to get Taylor Swift tickets.

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Speaker 1: But at the it wasn't It's not that it wasn't

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Speaker 1: thought it was pretty well done. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: except for a return to Jedi, He's not in that one.

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Speaker 1: But and then Anthony Daniels, who does the three pos

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Speaker 1: I call when your life becomes Star Wars because such

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Speaker 1: that I get like a lot of news alerts about it,

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Speaker 1: Like Google all the time is giving me these alerts,

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Speaker 1: and that's how it got spoiled on some major things actually,

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Speaker 1: but one that came up recently is there once again

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Speaker 1: people are having this argument about Luke Skywalker's gay can't

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Speaker 1: be and like the quote that Mark Hamill had about

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Speaker 1: is recirculating, which is that basically that character is meant

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Speaker 1: to resonate with you and be interpreted by you. So

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Speaker 1: quote if you think he's gay, of course he's gay,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. People are definitely, at least in my

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Speaker 1: Star Wars circle, that Google is telling me about are

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Speaker 1: having conversations about it, and then you probably saw the

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Speaker 1: they are making a new movie with Daisy Ridley Johuaega

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Speaker 1: I think Ray and Finn called Dawn of the Jedi,

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Speaker 1: and it rebooted the whole Mary Sue conversation around Ray,

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Speaker 1: which you can listen to our Mary Sue episode. I

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Speaker 1: have a lot of thoughts about that she is not

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Speaker 1: a Mary Sue. Okay, that may or may not be

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Speaker 1: a whole section in our upcoming book. So just no

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Speaker 1: know about it, don't worry about it. And then just

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Speaker 1: it's funny because I did have Marissa staying with me

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Speaker 1: as a guest, and I was telling her how I've

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Speaker 1: had to start replacing some of my items because I'm

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Speaker 1: running out of space and so like if I have

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Speaker 1: a normal wine glass that's getting replaced by a Star

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Speaker 1: Wars wine glass, and so because people send me these

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Speaker 1: all the Star Wars stuff, which I love, don't stop.

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Speaker 1: I love it. But it is funny because I was

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Speaker 1: telling her, it's like my whole life. Like if you

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Speaker 1: didn't know me well and you came it, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you would think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's between this and the Last of Us, though,

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Speaker 2: it is slowly coming like Last of Us is catching up.

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Speaker 1: It is it is, Oh, that'll be interesting, that will

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Speaker 1: be interesting. And then also a part of the whole

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Speaker 1: life becoming Star Wars thing is I've started to yes

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Speaker 1: published fan fiction, and because I am me and I

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Speaker 1: had such an intense schedule, it's really intense. I love

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Speaker 1: doing it, but it's become work as well too, like

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Speaker 1: my time is sort of shrinking and I have to

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Speaker 1: edit that. It's all good stuff, like I like doing it,

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Speaker 1: but it's I guess I'm not someone who can just

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Speaker 1: not turn something into kind of work. I'm not good

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Speaker 1: at it. And this is my issue with a lot

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Speaker 1: of like TV shows, watching TV shows, or playing games,

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Speaker 1: is that I turn it into kind of work. But

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Speaker 1: the romance conundrum, and that's that even though I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily like romance that much and I'm an asexual person,

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Speaker 1: it still turns into romance a lot. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: opposed to that at all, But I do think I

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Speaker 1: saw an interesting conversation about that the other day. Where

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Speaker 1: as much as we've had conversations about the power of

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Speaker 1: friendship and stuff, there still seems to be this idea

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Speaker 1: that the romantic relationship is deeper or more important, which

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Speaker 1: I don't think is true at all, but it's I

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of that's been internalized that way.

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Speaker 1: So it's been interesting kind of seeing that layout in

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Speaker 1: what I'm writing and how people comment on it. Uh

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Speaker 1: So I will have more more to come on that.

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Speaker 1: I was very tempted to just read one of my

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Speaker 1: fair fiction on here, but then I didn't. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: come on. I know you're trying to figure out my name.

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Speaker 1: I can't have it come on now. No, it's really

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Speaker 1: good though, That's why I was tipped it. I actually

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Speaker 1: am really proud of it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe one day, maybe one day, And then.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of close this out. We do

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Speaker 1: have a short listener mail for you then, but I

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Speaker 1: did want to close this out with kind of a

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Speaker 1: note about the importance of taking breaks from heavy work

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Speaker 1: stuff that you've been doing that often comes up on

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Speaker 1: this show, like it is important to take those breaks

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Speaker 1: for us and listeners, but even even from fandom sometimes

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Speaker 1: or at least certain parts of fandom, which has been

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Speaker 1: hard for me, but I haven't. I had to kind

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Speaker 1: of stop myself and be like, you know what, you

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Speaker 1: don't really want to watch this right now, so don't

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Speaker 1: make yourself watch it just because it's Star Wars and

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Speaker 1: you have Star Wars, so I haven't. Like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: up to date on all the stuff, and that's a

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Speaker 1: strange feeling for me. It can feel kind of disloyal

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Speaker 1: or almost like it'll it'll go away. If you don't

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Speaker 1: support it, then it will go away and I will

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Speaker 1: get to that stuff. I'm sure. I just wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the mood for it. I just wasn't in the mood

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Speaker 1: for it right then. But that's been interesting for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that kind of headcanon and fan and is

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Speaker 1: getting much more difficult to maintain, which is part of it.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of projects that are coming out recently,

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Speaker 1: I've heard quotes about them from the creators and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like not a thing I would actually like,

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Speaker 1: But okay, I'm sure one day I'll watch it. I

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Speaker 1: do want to say, if I had time, I had

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Speaker 1: this really fun idea for a fan fiction with Yoda

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Speaker 1: and Luke living together, because they lived together in that

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Speaker 1: hut day time for six months. Yeah, in that tiny

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Speaker 1: hut and you know Yoda is a troll like he

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Speaker 1: will mess with pranks. It would be like a buddy comedy.

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Speaker 1: I already wrote some of it and it's very, very funny.

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Speaker 1: But I'm hoping that I can. I really want to

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Speaker 1: do that one day. And I do think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know some people can get really annoyed. And I

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Speaker 1: understand actually with things like Me the Fourth and now

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Speaker 1: just Made the Fifth, like Revenge of the Fifth and

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Speaker 1: just Star Wars nerds nerding out. But I do think

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Speaker 1: like things like this are silly, but they matter because

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Speaker 1: it is so many people important in terms of the

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Speaker 1: storytelling and connecting to characters. Like I said, I used

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Speaker 1: a lot of these characters to work through trauma, Like

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Speaker 1: that's part of it. That's part of why it's so

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Speaker 1: important to me in finding that that connection of people

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Speaker 1: who will cheer in the movie theater even though we've

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Speaker 1: seen this movie like five hundred times each and all

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Speaker 1: those like oh there's the ice cream maker in the background,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the kind of importance of fandom and

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Speaker 1: that connection and you know, and fan fiction where you

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Speaker 1: get to comment and share your love of something I

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Speaker 1: do think is really important and can be pretty sustaining,

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Speaker 1: not for everybody, but for some people of having that

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Speaker 1: thing that makes you happy that you can like during

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Speaker 1: dark times you're like, you know what, here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: And of course we've talked about a million times. There

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Speaker 1: is a dark side of fandom, absolutely, and that's part

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Speaker 1: of what I'm talking about, is like recognizing that and

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Speaker 1: not ignoring it, because it's important not to ignore it,

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Speaker 1: but to like step away from it, like don't engage

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Speaker 1: in it if it's just gonna make the fanboys angry

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Speaker 1: and happy that they made you angry too. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: this has been my kind of grab bag all over

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Speaker 1: the place. Eve of May the fourth, I did want

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Speaker 1: to read this message from Dina that we got because

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Speaker 1: I do think it kind of showcases what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to say here. So Dina went to Star Wars Celebration,

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Speaker 1: which is their big convention. It was in London this year.

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Speaker 1: Dina wrote, how are you doing? How are you feeling

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Speaker 1: about all of the Star Wars news? Wanted to send

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Speaker 1: you a quick high from London and send some photos.

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Speaker 1: I truly had the time of my life at my

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Speaker 1: first ever convention. Seriously, what comes after you go to celebration,

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Speaker 1: met so many awesome, friendly, kind people and all they

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Speaker 1: wanted to do was talk about Star Wars. Said a

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Speaker 1: quick hello to Holly as well after her awesome hails

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Speaker 1: from the Galaxy's Edge panel. Did not expect to cry

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Speaker 1: about a gazillion times. It was just so wonderful being

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Speaker 1: with all these lovely nerds and talking about the things

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Speaker 1: we all love. Shane, you couldn't make it, but Japan

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty incredible. So happy for fans in that region.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's it. That's kind of the

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Speaker 1: beauty of it, what it can be. And the pictures

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Speaker 1: were great. I was very jealous, very great. So thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you Dina for sending that update and

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Speaker 1: also regularly sending Star Wars updates. I so much enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I will be talking about future Star Wars projects in

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Speaker 1: our upcoming happy hour, but for now, may the forced

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Speaker 1: you with you. Thank you, thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 1: going on this random journey with me. Yes, if you

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Speaker 1: have any Star Wars thoughts, we would love to hear

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Speaker 1: them about any and everything, clearly, yes, all the things,

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Speaker 1: all the things be on the lookout for or what

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Speaker 1: could be a pretty wild TikTok my Star Wars cosplays

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Speaker 1: but yeah.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: You can email us at Stephania mom Stuff at iHeartMedia

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Speaker 1: a book coming out. You can pre order it at

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Speaker 1: stuff you Should Read books dot com. Thanks as always

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Speaker 1: to our super producer Christina, our executive producer Maya, our

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Speaker 1: contributor Joey. Thank you very much, yes, and thanks to

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