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Speaker 1: What's happening, everybody. Welcome in to a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans A Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst, sidelot reporter

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Speaker 1: for your Houston Texans as the Texans get ready for

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Speaker 1: the third game of a three game homestand this one

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Speaker 1: against Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks. Now, will it

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Speaker 1: be the last time the Texans see Russell Wilson with

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Potentially There's actually a tweet I saw today

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Speaker 1: that Russell in the offseason would drop his no trade

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Speaker 1: clause for potentially the Giants, the Saints, and the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: those three teams. So if those three teams are in

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Speaker 1: the running, you never know who else they might be

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Speaker 1: in the running four if they're not able to really

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Speaker 1: in Russell Wilson. But the matter in hand is Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson on Sunday at NRG Stadium. Now, if you remember

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Speaker 1: eight years ago at NRG Stadium, him, hey man, that

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Speaker 1: was brutal and Drew Dorry and I will talk about

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Speaker 1: that a little bit later on our in the Lab segment.

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Speaker 1: That'll be a little bit later in this hour. So

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Speaker 1: we've got plenty for you. John Boyle from the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks team reporter is going to Joy dpcity for our

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Speaker 1: Behind Enemy Sidelines interview. We'll have a little in the

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Speaker 1: lab with Drew Dorty talking about a couple of those

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Speaker 1: Seattle games, the one of twenty seventeen, the one twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Then we will have men behind

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Speaker 1: the Mike's Mark Vanemuer sits down with Steve Rabel. Always

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Speaker 1: not Verabel, but when you say Steve Rabel, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like you're saying Rabel, but it's Steve Rabel, played by

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Speaker 1: play voice, long time play by play voice of the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. In fact, was a quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: He has such a distinct voice in the Seahawks have

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Speaker 1: been in Sony big games. You hear his voice and

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Speaker 1: you go, WHOA, that's cool hearing his voice. So we'll

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Speaker 1: have that. Then it's Wednesday, so a little where are

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Speaker 1: they now with on d Davis, former return man extraordinaire

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Speaker 1: played in college with Michael Vick. Played in the NFL

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Speaker 1: with a number of teams, including your Houston Texans, made

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest catches in a game that I've

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Speaker 1: seen in two thousand and seven, one of the craziest

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Speaker 1: games ever. We know it as the Rob Baronas game

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Speaker 1: because Rob Bernas hit eight fueld goals that day against

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Speaker 1: the Texans. But the Texas had a furious fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: comeback in a game they had looked putrid for three quarters,

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Speaker 1: and Davis caught a touchdown It's seeming they put them

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Speaker 1: ahead to stay, but a final fuel goal sent to

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Speaker 1: Texans back home. Well I guess they were at home,

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Speaker 1: but they sent them home from n ERG Stadium with

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Speaker 1: the loss. But Andre Davis was incredible in that game,

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Speaker 1: incredible making that big catch at the end. That was

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Speaker 1: just one of the craziest games I think I've ever

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Speaker 1: box explode the way that it did. I was up

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Speaker 1: it was nuts. So Andre Davis a little where are

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Speaker 1: they now? But we're gonna kick off the show with

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Speaker 1: the general manager of your Houston Texans, Nick Casserio. Now

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Speaker 1: there's some news with the Texans before we get to Nick.

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Speaker 1: About linebacker Zach Cuttingham. He has been waived by the team.

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Speaker 1: He is subject to the waiver process, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: if any team claims him on waivers, the thought being no,

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Speaker 1: that they'll let him clear waivers, and then there will

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Speaker 1: probably be a number of teams that will be in

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Speaker 1: of this year. Now, we had this conversation with Nick

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Speaker 1: Cassario before that happened, So our conversation with him was

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Speaker 1: before this process of waiving Zach Cuttingham came to be.

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Speaker 1: It also was if you heard Sean and Seth with

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Speaker 1: We obviously will ask Nick Kissario about that next week,

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Speaker 1: review of last week against the Indianapolis Colts, joining us

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Speaker 1: right now, Texans Radio, it's Texans the general manager Nick Kissario. Nick,

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Speaker 1: offense on Sunday. Yeah, bottom line is, just didn't play

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Speaker 1: which is Seattle, which they'll do some things differently than

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Speaker 1: their own right. Nick, when you're facing ANFCT, the team

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Speaker 1: that I don't think it changes preparation too much. But

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Speaker 1: haven't played them. Yeah, you really have to do a

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Speaker 1: To understand their strengths when the standard weakness is how

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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily change the preparation. You just might have

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Speaker 1: Nick coach Culley said he would announce a starter later

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Speaker 1: the expectation is the same for the player when they're

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Speaker 1: to quarterbacks, Nick, there's no one particular asset that you think,

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Speaker 1: some attributes where, regardless of who's playing quarterback, are important. Historically,

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Speaker 1: with what's happened. It is what it is or nothing

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Speaker 1: we can do about that. We can control what happens

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Speaker 1: moving forward, and as we start to think about next year,

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Speaker 1: which I would say, you know, Traymon kind of falls

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Speaker 1: into that bucket a little bit. We talked about before

434
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Speaker 1: the game, John and just you know, it's about this year,

435
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Speaker 1: but it's also about moving forward. A player that wasn't

436
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Speaker 1: under contracts take advantage of this opportunity, and that's the

437
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Speaker 1: kind of player that we wanted to be able to

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Speaker 1: keep under control for another year. So which was I

439
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Speaker 1: would say in the rationale and the reasoning behind that extension.

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Speaker 1: There's other players that we've had discussions with on the team.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not those agreements come to fruition now or

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Speaker 1: whether it's January, February in March, we're really open minded

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Speaker 1: about when that happens, and if we have to go

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Speaker 1: to free agency on some players, then we'll go to

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Speaker 1: free agency on players and just try to build a

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Speaker 1: team for next year. But trying to get to the

447
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Speaker 1: coaches are not going to really get too caught up

448
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Speaker 1: and worried about next year. Their focus is on Seattle,

449
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: trying to you know, short term focus on Seattle, but

450
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Speaker 1: also have some big picture things. This morning, I just

451
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Speaker 1: came down. We're going through kind of our initial round

452
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Speaker 1: of draft meetings because we're just kind of starting not

453
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Speaker 1: that process. So it's a merger of a lot of

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Speaker 1: different entities and a lot of information. So part of

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Speaker 1: my responsibilities try to store through it and sift through it,

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Speaker 1: and some of it's more Germaine, depending on the time

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Speaker 1: of the year that you're in. All right, we have

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Speaker 1: the Tax Act Texas Bowl coming up January fourth here

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Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium. It's LSU in Kansas State. That'll be

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Speaker 1: out a Tuesday night, coach, So will you just jump

461
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Speaker 1: into the ball just walk down from your office and

462
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Speaker 1: having a little look at some of the talent here.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely as abdi of being here in energy and having

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Speaker 1: a bowl game. So I'm sure that'll be a fun experience.

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Speaker 1: You know, two good teams, there'll be a lot of players,

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Speaker 1: you know, be a fair amount of players that are

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Speaker 1: going to end up and you know, whether it's a

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Speaker 1: bowl game, combine wherever it is. So you know, absolutely

469
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Speaker 1: come down for a few minutes, you know, watch a

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Speaker 1: little bit of football and then go back up and

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Speaker 1: you know, finish the preparation for whoever the opponent is

472
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Speaker 1: that week. The last time LSU was here, it was

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, they played Texas Tech, and I started rallying

474
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Speaker 1: off the names that came out of that one particular game,

475
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Speaker 1: and it's Jamal Adams, gotchaw Arden Key, Tredavious White, Playoff,

476
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Speaker 1: Lanny Mahomes, DeAndre White, him Grant. I mean that game

477
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Speaker 1: was absolutely loaded, but bowl games have changed. Nick, how

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Speaker 1: do you guys look at that situation and maybe every

479
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Speaker 1: single one is separate that. You know what, I've done,

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Speaker 1: what I can, I'm gonna go draft prep. You guys

481
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Speaker 1: go off to the bowl game. We saw that a

482
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Speaker 1: few years ago with Fournette, with Christian mcaffy. They're kind

483
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Speaker 1: of the first to do that, and we're seeing more

484
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Speaker 1: players kind of take that route. How do you guys

485
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Speaker 1: factor that in or not into an evaluation of a player.

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Speaker 1: The best way to look at that is just be

487
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Speaker 1: respectful of the individual decision. Every player is different, everybody

488
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Speaker 1: has a different thought process and philosophies or pertains of that,

489
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Speaker 1: and really you can't hold one decision against that particular player.

490
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Speaker 1: There might be some extenuating circumstances where they make that decision.

491
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Speaker 1: So I think you have to look at everything in totality.

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Speaker 1: If you just use one specific decision and make that

493
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Speaker 1: a microcousing for everything else, that's probably not doing the

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Speaker 1: player justice. Just like the same thing, he goes to

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, he has a great week. Okay, Wow,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna base everything based off that. In one week,

497
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Speaker 1: or he went to the combine and he jumped fifty

498
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Speaker 1: inches and ran four one, Like, okay, we're gonna base

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Speaker 1: everything off of that. You just have to be smart

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Speaker 1: about how you take all the information and put it

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Speaker 1: together in the picture in the profile of the player. Nick,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Good luck this week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, take care. I don't know, man, if I

504
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Speaker 1: find a guy out a fifty inch vert running for one,

505
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Speaker 1: I might snatch that sucker up. Maybe not first round,

506
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: but I'm must snatch him up. Man, those elite traits.

507
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Speaker 1: But that was fun. That was a fun conversation with

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Speaker 1: Nick Assario. Again, I'll reiterate what I mentioned earlier. We

509
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Speaker 1: did that interview with him prior to Zach Cuttingham being waived.

510
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Speaker 1: That obviously is the news of the day for the Texans.

511
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Speaker 1: Zach will be subject to the waiver process, and once

512
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Speaker 1: he clears that process, and I expect him to given

513
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Speaker 1: his contract value, then he has opened to sign with

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Speaker 1: any team. I've seen a number of teams that may

515
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Speaker 1: be interested. Obviously, there are some things that those teams

516
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Speaker 1: have to consider as it pertains to Zach, but wish

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Speaker 1: him well. He made some of the most incredible plays

518
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Speaker 1: here with the Texans, and it's just as I think.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson tweeted this today. He said, from a league source,

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Speaker 1: it was time. It's been time. In all honesty, it's

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Speaker 1: been time. Whether it was Zach in training camp, missing practice,

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Speaker 1: whether it was the third preseason game obviously last week,

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Speaker 1: you know it. It was time. It was time for

524
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Speaker 1: a clean break on both sides. So wish Zach the

525
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Speaker 1: best of luck in the future, regardless of where he goes.

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Speaker 1: If it's in division, we'll see him twice, that's fine,

527
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Speaker 1: but wish him luck wherever he goes. Also happening if

528
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Speaker 1: from a news cycle perspective, Zack being wave. Cravon LeBlanc

529
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Speaker 1: was signed to the practice squad. He had been on

530
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Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. They had to release him

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Speaker 1: and then brought him back to the practice squad. Also

532
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Speaker 1: release from the practice squad was Damon Hazelton. Now, there

533
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Speaker 1: was a massive transaction wire post last week and one

534
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Speaker 1: of those was Philip Dorset. He was out of practice.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to watching boy he is. He is smoking fast,

536
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Speaker 1: smoking fast. So a lot of things happening amongst the

537
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Speaker 1: receiver corps. Hazelton off the practice squad. We'll see what

538
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Speaker 1: else happens with news as it pertains to anything happening

539
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Speaker 1: with this team as they get ready to take on

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday. Speaking of the Seahawks, John

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Speaker 1: Boyle covers the Seahawks for the Seattle Seahawks. He is

542
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Speaker 1: a team reporter, and he sits down with our reporter,

543
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Speaker 1: extraordinary deepe situ as we go behind enemy sidelines. Next

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Speaker 1: right here at Texans All Access. Welcome back this Wednesday

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Speaker 1: at the Texans All Access. I am John Harris Football.

546
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Speaker 1: I a sideline reporter and very very very hungry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get to a point at this whether it's early

548
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: in this show, late this show, if I don't get

549
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Speaker 1: a snack at some point, I'm gonna fall over and

550
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Speaker 1: pass out. But I'm so hungry right now. I need Freddie's.

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Speaker 1: I need Freddie's Frozen Custard and steak burgers. Freddie He's

552
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: Frozen Custers, Steakburgers. It's all about the good in creating

553
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: more of it. More drive through celebrations, more road trips.

554
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Around the block were family dinners and lunches, more car

555
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: picnics and desserts, maybe even second desserts more being together

556
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Speaker 1: as much as we can. With seventeen area locations in

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Speaker 1: the Houston area, Freddy's keeps the good going with the

558
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Speaker 1: taste that brings you back. And if you're as hungry

559
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Speaker 1: as I am, Freddy's will fit the bill. You get

560
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Speaker 1: the steak burger, you get the fried cheese kurts, or

561
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Speaker 1: the fries the fried sauce. Now I get the cheese

562
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: skirts with the fried sauce, and that is just way indulgent.

563
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Speaker 1: But that's cool because if you're hungry, that'll satisfy you.

564
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Speaker 1: But then, no matter how full you are, you gotta

565
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Speaker 1: get the turtle concrete. I love the turtle concrete. So

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Speaker 1: my favorite desserts anywhere. That's how I do it. If

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Speaker 1: I'm starving, which a lot of times I am coming

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Speaker 1: home from a game, especially night games. We have night

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Speaker 1: games at home. I'm dying by the end of the

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Speaker 1: night and I'm driving. I see those lights on Freddy's.

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Speaker 1: I just pulled right in that drive through. Get my burger,

572
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Speaker 1: get my cheesecurts, get my fried sauce, get my turtle

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Speaker 1: cree and that bag is done by the time I

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Speaker 1: get home. So make sure you go check out Freddie's

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Speaker 1: Frozen Custard and steak Burgers. All right, Job Boyle's coming

576
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Speaker 1: up from the Seattle Seahawks. He's a team reporter for

577
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Speaker 1: the team, and he sat down with my good friend

578
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Speaker 1: deepe City to talk about the Seahawks a weird year

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. So here's job Boyle breaking it all down.

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Speaker 1: It's Enemy Sidelines, presented by Microsoft. My guest this week,

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Speaker 1: John Boyle. He is the team reporter for the Seattle Seahawks. John.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks are coming off a big win after that three

583
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Speaker 1: game losing stretch and it just seemed like there was

584
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: so much in the news about head coach Pete Carroll

585
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson and where the future of the team

586
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: was headed. But I imagine what the win on Sunday

587
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: that's probably quieted the noise a little bit, has it

588
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: a little bit that was very much needed. It's been

589
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Speaker 1: a tough season for a number of reasons. And yeah,

590
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned three losses in a row, they had

591
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Speaker 1: lost six of seven. You have to go back to

592
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Speaker 1: twenty eleven before this team had lost three games in

593
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: a row prior to this year, So it's been a

594
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: tough year, but yeah, much needed big win, exciting win

595
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: over a division rival, So you know there's it's an

596
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: uphill battle from here, but this team feels like it

597
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: sells a lot to fight for down the stretch. Yeah,

598
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: especially with Russell Wilson there at quarterback. We saw him

599
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: get injured in week five and then have the surgery

600
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: get the pin put in his finger, and then he

601
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: made that really cool announcement. I'm a big fan of succession,

602
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: so I saw the announcement on Instagram that he was

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Speaker 1: coming back, and then it seemed like it was tough

604
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: sledding for him in his return. Some of the losses

605
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: had something to do with maybe him coming back to earlier.

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Speaker 1: Was the finger still bothering him? And what really changed

607
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: for him in this past Sunday's win. Yeah, you know,

608
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna say he came back too early. And you know,

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00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has made the point that they, you know,

610
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: they had to see enough in practice to let him play.

611
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: They weren't just going to let him make that decision

612
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: on his own. So they felt good about him coming back.

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Speaker 1: But sure, I mean he was only a few weeks,

614
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Speaker 1: you know, a month removed from surgery when he came back,

615
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: and he didn't quite look like his usual self. He

616
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: just missed some throws he doesn't usually miss. He's been

617
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: a very accurate quarterback there as career, and we've seen

618
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: the last few games prior to this past Sunday where

619
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: he just misses some throws. And you know, this past

620
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: week he was complete eighty percent of his passes and

621
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Speaker 1: he he looked like his old self. So yeah, I

622
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: think there's just an element of his finger needs some

623
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: time to get a little more healed. Also, just maybe

624
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: some rust. I mean, he's never for ten seasons, he

625
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: never missed a game, He never missed a regular season practice,

626
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: even so, you know, taken a month off in the

627
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: middle of the season might have just thrown him off

628
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: a little bit in that regard too, regardless of the injury.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, he's got one of the best one

630
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: two punches in the league with wide receivers Tyler Lockett

631
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Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf, so they have about the same number

632
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 1: of targets, but it seems like Metcalf has twice as

633
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: many touchdowns as Lockett this year. What do you make

634
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: of the roles in the passing game this season? Is

635
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: it different than how it's been in the year's past.

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00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty similar to what we saw last year,

637
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: and it's just it's always interesting with those two. You

638
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, I would hate to deal with them for

639
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: fantasy football, but I'm not a fantasy guy because you

640
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: never know which game you know who it's going to

641
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: be a lot of times just depends on how teams

642
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: try to defend them. You know, you'll see a team

643
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: try to take DK Metcalf away and Lockett has a

644
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: big game or vice versa. This pass game was one

645
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: of the rare times is pretty balanced between them. I

646
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: feel like more often than Nodens, one has a big

647
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: game the other one doesn't. But yeah, they're over the

648
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: course of the season, their body of work is pretty similar.

649
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Other than as you said, you know, DK Metcalf's kind

650
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: of been the bigger red zone target, which you know

651
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: makes sense when you look at his physical makeups. He's

652
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: the big body guy. But both those guys have been

653
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: great for this franchise for a while now. All Right,

654
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: Seattle's defense, I don't know if it gets as much

655
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: attention nationally as it does probably locally, but they shut

656
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: out the forty nine ers and the second half of

657
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: that win, and they're allowing just twenty point eight points

658
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: per game, which is the third fewest up in the NFL.

659
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: So throughout the losses, what's been the most impressive part

660
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: about this defense? It seems like they pretty much stayed

661
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: consistent throughout the season. Yeah, you know, they started off

662
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: a little rough. They gave up I think it was

663
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: over thirty points and back to back losses early in

664
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Speaker 1: the year, and they get up a lot of yards early.

665
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Speaker 1: So it's funny you look at their stif I think

666
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: they're still like thirty first and yards allowed, but a

667
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: lot of that came early, and they've been really impressive,

668
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: especially we can consider with the offensive struggles that defense

669
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: has been on the field a ton. The Seahawks have

670
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: run the fewest plays in the NFL. They've they won

671
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: time in possession in San Francisco for the first time

672
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: all season, they've had the better time of possession. So

673
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: it's been a tough battle for the defense just in

674
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: terms of how much are on the field. But as

675
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: you said, they've you know, they're pretty good in the

676
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: scoring defense. They've been good in the red zone all year.

677
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: They've been good on third down. So it hats off

678
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: to that group because they've had some tough situations with

679
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: the offense struggling, and they keep battling and they've kept

680
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: them in a lot of games, even in all these losses.

681
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: So that's kind of become you know, we thought we

682
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: all came in the season thinking Russell Wison this offense

683
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: would be what carries a team, but the defense has

684
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: really been more of the strength of late. All Right, Well,

685
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: the Texans will face Adrian Peterson for the second time

686
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: this year. That time they faced him, he was playing

687
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: for the Titans. So after getting released, the Seahawks picked

688
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: him up, put him on their practice squad, and last

689
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: week he scored a touchdown. So what do you envision

690
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: for Adrian Peterson this week? Maybe a bigger role or

691
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: does he take a step back? Does Alex Collins come

692
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: back into the fold? What do you make of this

693
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: run game when when they faced Texans. Yeah, you know,

694
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: we'll have to see you mentioned Alex Collins. That'll be

695
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: kind of the question mark of you know, he's been

696
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: playing through kind of a growing abdominal injury situation for

697
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: much of the season since he took over that starting job.

698
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: From Chris Carson, who's out for the year. So Pete

699
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: Carroll did say, you know, Collins getting the time the

700
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: week off finally to rest might help him get back.

701
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: But I think they do like, you know, Adrian Pearson.

702
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's He's not twenty fifteen or twenty

703
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: twelve Adrian Peerson at this point, but he does still

704
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: have kind of a physical presence that maybe they don't

705
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: have in that backfield without Chris Carson. So we'll have

706
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: to wait and see who all is available. You know,

707
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: they like what they saw or a shot Penny last

708
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: week in a bigger role, so it's probably going to

709
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: be a little Nicks and match, but I wouldn't imagine

710
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: we might see Peterson in some capacity looks again. So

711
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks will face Justin Britt for the first time

712
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: not in a Seahawks uniform, which I'm Texans fans not

713
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: a lot to be super excited about this year, but

714
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: they we do like what we've seen out of Justin

715
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: Britt so far, even in the offseason and in training camp.

716
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: He just came off ir so he's back in the

717
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: starting lineup. What stands out to you about Britt from

718
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: the years that you've covered him when he was with

719
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Yeah, I mean he was a guy that

720
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: really developed into a leader and just kind of a

721
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: really steady presence on that offensive line. You know, he

722
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: moved around a bunch early in his career, started to

723
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: care as a tackle, they tried to mc guard and

724
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: he really found a home at center then. You know,

725
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Unfortunately the knee injury cut short his time here and

726
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: it didn't work out to bring him back free agency wise,

727
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: but really cool to see him back starting. You know,

728
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: he was a guy that you know, personally is just

729
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: a locker room presence for the media, he was great

730
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: to deal with, always a very accountable guy who would

731
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: you take any questions people had. And yeah, just good

732
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: dud and glad to see he's doing well out there.

733
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Speaker 1: All right, What about for yourself, what are some of

734
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: the storylines you'll be covering for this week's game? Yeah,

735
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost to me, it's all about

736
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: can this offense kind of build off the progress it showed.

737
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: As I kind of referenced earlier, it had been a

738
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: real struggle for a while for the offense, you know,

739
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: really dating back to before Russell Wilson got hurt, but

740
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: then especially after the injury, so they know they started

741
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: slowly against the Fourniards last week, but then really picked

742
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: it up. They had three touchdown drives and really should

743
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: have probably had five touchdowns, but they turned it over

744
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: twice right near the goal line. So if the offense

745
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: can you build off that, and Russell Wilson once again

746
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: looks like he did. All of a sudden, you start

747
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: looking at this team with the defense plane how it

748
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: has been, and they do look really dangerous, like a

749
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: team that might be able to go on her own.

750
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. John Boyle, team reporter from the

751
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. John, thanks so much for the time, and

752
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: we'll ap forward seeing you here on Sunday. Thanks for

753
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: having me looking forward to the trip out there. I

754
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: always listen for that part in Dep's interviews at the

755
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: very end where she says, hey, look forward to seeing you.

756
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes you meeting those people for the first time. We

757
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 1: didn't have that last year. Is it's just so weird

758
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: now that we have it back. It's kind of cool

759
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: to be able to travel all different stadiums and reporters

760
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: and such, traveling all the different stadiums. So I'm looking

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: forward to seeing John Boyle myself. Maybe I'll make it

762
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: up to the press box and get a few nuggets

763
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: of wisdom for him from him before the game. Now,

764
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Drudeherty and I try to give you nuggets a wisdom

765
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: every single time we get in front of the mic,

766
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: especially when we do our podcast in the Lab. Have

767
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: a little snippet of that for you next, as it

768
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: pertains to some of the games we have played against

769
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. My god, they've been wild, to say the least.

770
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: That's next the Texas All Access. Oh yeah, it's in

771
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: the Lab time on a Wednesday edition of Texas All Access.

772
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris Football and a silent reporter

773
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: and one half of the aforementioned podcast duo, Drew Doherty

774
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: and John Harris, And we were sitting there trying to

775
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, what do we talk about it in

776
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the Lab And for some reason one of us chime,

777
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Dan goes Man remember that twenty seventeen game, And all

778
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like, that's it. Let's go.

779
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the last few games we played against

780
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, because the last three I've been they've been

781
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: kind a while, kind of while in twenty seventeen, that

782
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: might be the I don't know if the greatest sports

783
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: day in Houston history, but it's pretty aren't closed. We'll

784
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: take a listen in the lab. It's right here. The

785
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: Texans are hosting the Seahawks this weekend, and it's a

786
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: team you don't see much of, John because you're in

787
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: that other conference. But there's been some bananas games with

788
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: this opponent. Last time you played there was twenty seventeen.

789
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I think it was the most one of the most

790
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: exciting losses in team history. And that's like one of

791
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: the worst ways to put it, but it was the

792
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: final game of It was the final game of de

793
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson season. It's probably where most of the damage

794
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: was done to his knee. They play on a Sunday,

795
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: he gets hurt in the game, and then I think

796
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: the straw that broke the camel's back came Wednesday in

797
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: practice later that week when he made a weird move,

798
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: but he he was kind of limping through that fourth quarter,

799
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: but he left the field with a lead on the

800
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: road against the still pretty darn good Seattle team. They

801
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: went to Russell Wilson went, Russell Wilson is amazing, right outstanding, Drew.

802
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: I contend. I contend, and I might be. That was

803
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: a Sunday in October and for those people that don't remember,

804
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: that might have been the most exciting sports day I've

805
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: ever seen in the city of Houston because that night

806
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: as we were flying back, so the game itself against

807
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: the Seahawks was I mean, it's it's one of those

808
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: games you go back and watch and you're like, oh

809
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: my god. I mean it was a heavyweight fifth fight.

810
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it was back and forth and it was

811
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: it was amazing to just sit there and watch this like,

812
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: oh my god. And then to watch Russell Wilson bring

813
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: his team back and make the throws and do what

814
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson does. It was like we saw two of

815
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks in the league go toe to toe

816
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: with one another and just lob Haymakers and it was like, Yo,

817
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: this is incredible. Obviously we wanted to Texas to win,

818
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: no doubt, but then it losing forty one thirty eight,

819
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: but it's just incredible. So we then get to the plane.

820
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: I don't never forget for some reason, they you know,

821
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: on the plane that we're on. A lot of times

822
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: there's a there's a back stairway and then there's a

823
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: front stairway, and so we usually go up the back stairway,

824
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: so we don't like merge groups, so we could be separable.

825
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: For some reason. On this flight, the back stairwell doesn't working,

826
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: so we had to go up through the front. So

827
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: we had to go through all the players. And I'll

828
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: never forget seeing Shane Leckler was wearing in all two

829
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: Vay jersey on the plane because Game five of the

830
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: World Series was that night. So as we're flying back,

831
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: and obviously it's a flight from Seattle, so it's a

832
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: long flight. The game, the Astros game against the Dodgers

833
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: starts right as we get on the plane, and so

834
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: every so often we would get updates on the plane,

835
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: like of what was happening back here in Houston as

836
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: we're flying towards Houston, because you would get a little

837
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: bit of Wi Fi at times, and you could do

838
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: just enough, and so I would get a little bit

839
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: of Wi Fi and go, oh my gosh, they just

840
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: took a lead. Oh man, the Dodgers just did this.

841
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: So it got to a point where we were on

842
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: the buses, we landed, We were on the bus when

843
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: the Astros had won that game, and our bus has

844
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: to go right by minimate part almost literally as the

845
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: winning yeah, minutes before. And so we had that all

846
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: happened in one day of us going to Seattle and

847
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: playing that game in twenty seventeen, which was just incredible,

848
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: and then having Astro's game, which I contend might be

849
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: the greatest game in Major League Baseball history, the twenty

850
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: seventeen World Series Game five. All that took place in

851
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: one day. I mean, you know, your pulse as a

852
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Houston sports and was just racing all day with the

853
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: two games that she ended up watching. But that's what

854
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: we'll ever stand out to me in that twenty seventeen game,

855
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. And then four years prior to that,

856
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: here twenty thirteen, you're two and one, you're coming off

857
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: a loss at Baltimore. You're back home, and you're kind

858
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: of handling those guys for most of the day, and

859
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: then they get closer and closer and closer, and it's

860
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: a one score game and you got the ball late

861
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: and it was a third and like fourish and you

862
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: throw it to the right flat and you know, shab

863
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: had started his decline at that point, and Richard Sherman

864
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: picked it off, saw it coming, had no problem with it.

865
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Lost a shoe and route to the end zone, but

866
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: they tied it up and then they wanted in overtime,

867
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: and that moved the Texans to two and two, so

868
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: instead of being three and one, they're two and two.

869
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: He's thrown pick sixes in weeks two, three and four now,

870
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: and he started week one. His first passing through in

871
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Week one deepens on territory was picked off but not

872
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: return for a touchdown. But the Chargers scored on the

873
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: next play back in San Diego back then, so he

874
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: was kind of on a streak there where posing defenses

875
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: were onto him. But you go to two and two

876
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: and then the absolute house falls on you the next

877
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: weekend on Sunday Night football in San Francisco. I mean,

878
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: just one of the ugliest, you know, most disastrous losses.

879
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: But it was kind of preceded by this one right here.

880
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Gets there's a lot of revisionous history, like, oh, if

881
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: they win that game, then they go you know, I

882
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: still kind of think they they're gonna muddle through things,

883
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a bad season. It's not gonna

884
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: be two and fourteen bad. But I don't think. I

885
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: don't think the Texas are going to the playoffs and

886
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: doing all that. There were there's some holes on that

887
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: team coming out of the twenty twelve season. I know

888
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people were really excited about twenty thirteen.

889
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: I think we all were. I know that I was

890
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: very hesitant having watched the last part of twenty twelve.

891
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I said on radio constantly, and I was

892
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: not with the Texas at that point. And that's what

893
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: makes that twenty thirteen game so interesting because now I

894
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: now being you know, in my role, I don't I

895
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: don't miss play. I'm always there. I mean, I'm there

896
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: to the end. I'm there sometimes, you know, one of

897
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: the last people off the field. Sometimes I gotta be

898
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: the first locker and be the way I don't miss

899
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: a play. So in twenty thirteen, I'm not with the Texans,

900
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: but I was here that day, and I was here

901
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: with a couple buddies in my one. I did a

902
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: website with one. It was our website programmer. So we're

903
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: watching this just domination, Like, man, this is awesome, this

904
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: is really cool to watch. And so the Texans are

905
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: on that final drive and my buddy is always always

906
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: likes to leave early. Guy always Heat is not going

907
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: to be a traffic Heat is not, so it's always.

908
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: So he looks at me and goes, should we go?

909
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: And he knows that I am the other way. I

910
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: want to see everything. I want to be there for.

911
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: I don't I'd not like to leave early of the game.

912
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: And so in my mind I'm thinking, and then I

913
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: say it out loud, Okay, well, if they score, then

914
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: we know they're gonna win. But if they mess it

915
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: up on this play, we're soon thereafter. I don't know

916
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: that I want to be here to see it. So

917
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: we leave, and we're going down the elevators and we're

918
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: walking down Kurby because we're in the Purple lot, and

919
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: we're walking down Kirby, and we hear Mark's voice because

920
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: the game is being broadcast out outside, and we hear

921
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: Mark's voice, and I hear Mark get excited, and of course,

922
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: you know me, I'm definite my right here. I mean,

923
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: I can't hear much in my right here, so I

924
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: hear that. I just hear Mark getting excited. I'm like,

925
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: oh man, they scored, and all sudden my buddy goes, no, no,

926
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: I think it was Seattle who scored, and immediately we

927
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 1: take off on a full sprint for the Purple Lot.

928
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: I will never ever forget that day, and any of

929
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: you that we're there, you'll never forget it either, and

930
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: not in a good way. My goodness, Oh what a

931
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: rough afternoon that was. Hopefully this Sunday will be much

932
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: much different. All right, we get back. It's Men behind

933
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: the MIC's time, Mark Vandamir was Steve Rabel of the

934
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. Next on Texas Access, We've got one hour

935
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: in the books, we got one hour left to go

936
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: right here on a Wednesday edition of Texas All Access

937
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. My favorite segment that

938
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't do. No, I shouldn't say that I don't.

939
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: I shouldn't play favorites, But I really like our men

940
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: behind the Mike's segment during the week. I love when

941
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Mark vandermir has a chance to catch up with Steve Rabel.

942
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: These two probably could have taken up the entire second hour,

943
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: but we got here from Andre Davis and our where

944
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: they now in the next segment, So we gotta cut

945
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: it at some point. But Steve Rabel is Seattle Seahawk football.

946
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: Everybody out there knows about Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson

947
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: and a legion of boom when it was great. Steve

948
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: Rabel has been the man calling that action. He was

949
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: a Seahawk quarterback at one point. He's awesome and I

950
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: love hearing his voice on our airways. So let's go.

951
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: Men behind the Mikes, Mark Vandermere and Steve Rabel joining

952
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: us right now on Texans Radio. Steve Rabel the voice

953
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: of the Seattle Seahawks. Steve longtime knows Bek. How are

954
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? I'm fine marking you doing well.

955
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: I think both of us could be having more enjoyable seasons.

956
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks are coming off of victory. For those

957
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: who don't see the Seahawks very often this year, obviously

958
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: NC opponent, we only see each other every four years.

959
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: Give me two or three the biggest issues in your mind.

960
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: The Seahawks are having this season well as of this morning. Now,

961
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: injury has come up to bite us again. Jamal Adams

962
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: has done for the season shoulder injury this past weekend

963
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. Couple that with the fact that we

964
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: lost Chris Carson, our best running back, thousand yard back

965
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: to back rusher lost him earlier in the year. He

966
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: tried to come back, couldn't do it, went on, iur

967
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: head next or will have next surgery sometime in the

968
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: very near future. Russell Wilson obviously miss four weeks three games,

969
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: comes back, doesn't play very well because he's still healing.

970
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: This last weekend against the Niners his best week coming back.

971
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: So you put all that together with the injuries, and

972
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: you know that's no excius because everybody's got people hurt,

973
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: but we're also we're not We haven't run the ball

974
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: very well since Carson got hurt early on and for

975
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: a while went into a real steep nosedive offensively, just

976
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: could not figure it out. Part of it had to

977
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: do with Russ, part of it had to do with

978
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line, our inability to run, our inability to

979
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: convert third downs, all those things. And then the defense

980
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: early on was given up miles of yards. They have

981
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: since gotten better. So I mean, you kind of look

982
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: at the whole thing and you can probably you can

983
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: probably put it all under the umbrella of A injuries

984
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: and B kind of not good enough in some positions

985
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: to win a lot of football games this year. Do

986
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: you think Russell's turning the corner? Though you mentioned healing up,

987
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: had a good game last week. How do you think

988
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: he is right now? Oh? I think so. You know,

989
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: he's always confident, even when he knows that he's not

990
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, He's never going to say that. He's

991
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: always going to say that that. You know, I'm going

992
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: out there every chance I get to go out there

993
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: is an opportunity for a championship performance, and sometimes that

994
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: works out. But you know, literally, when you can't grip

995
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: the ball very well and the ball sails on you

996
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: and you're missing guys that you haven't missed in your

997
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: first ten years, that's a little bit of a cause

998
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: for concern. I think the other thing Mark that has

999
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: really affected us is when Russell isn't at his best,

1000
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: that's when we get to be in trouble sometimes without

1001
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Chris Carson. Finally, Rashad Penny is starting to come around.

1002
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: He had a halfway decent game this week, but he

1003
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: has been hurt so much in his career that he's

1004
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: just never been able to get on the field and

1005
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: stay on the field. Boat When he gets on there,

1006
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: sometimes he has some pretty big plays. So we needed

1007
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: to have him earlier in the year, and he just

1008
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: couldn't get healthy. Finally he is, and then I think

1009
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: teams are taking guys like DK Metcalf away. You still

1010
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: see Tyler Lockett mate catches down field, but DK is

1011
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: getting covered, double teamed a lot all over the field,

1012
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: combination coverages and the like Russ is. You know, he's

1013
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: kind of having to manufacturer and when he's not at

1014
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: his best. We've been asking him to pull it out

1015
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: of the fire for all these years, and sometimes it's

1016
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: just not going to happen. You gotta have everybody else

1017
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: play well too. Steve Rabel, voice of the Seattle Seahawks,

1018
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: joining us on Texans Radio. I was joking with sixty

1019
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: six year old David Culley that he's the young guy

1020
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: in the coaching matchup this week. Pete Carroll at seventy,

1021
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: Is he any different? He seems like the same energetic

1022
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: guy we've always known. How do you see it's Steve?

1023
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: He absolutely is. He is just remarkable. He came in

1024
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: here and I can remember the very first day of

1025
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: practice for these Seahawks in a mini camp after he

1026
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: was named head coach, and he came in here and

1027
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: brought the kind of the USC mantra with him. First

1028
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: of all, always compete. I had never really heard it

1029
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: said that way before. But then he also brought kind

1030
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: of the bells and whistles and all the hooping and

1031
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: hollering that you get at a college program. And there

1032
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: were a number of veterans who've been around for a while.

1033
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: You kind of looked at each other and said, WHOA,

1034
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: what is this? And pretty soon those guys weren't there,

1035
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: and it was the guys who bought in. It has

1036
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: been that way ever since for Pete. He is so

1037
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: up and ready for every practice, every opportunity. He's he

1038
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: really is. I played for a coach in college, Pepper Rodgers,

1039
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: who spend a lot of time up on the tower.

1040
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Remember how coaches used to stand up on the tower

1041
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: and watch practice. Pete Carroll is right in the middle

1042
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: of everything, and he is correcting and coaching up and

1043
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: making comments and high fiving every single play with players.

1044
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: I watched the early part of practice one day a

1045
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and he's running seventy years old

1046
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: and he's running sixty yards striders in our indoor facility

1047
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: over there as the guys were warming up. He was

1048
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: over there warming up and running some striders, getting loose.

1049
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't find my butt with both hands

1050
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: most mornings, and he's seventy and out there running. So

1051
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: he's just he's just amazing guy, and that attitude is

1052
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: always on the positive side, Steve. Bobby Wagner leads the

1053
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: league in tackles. And we always talk about Russell and

1054
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Wilson with the Seahawks, and maybe people from the outside

1055
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: looking in don't talk about Bobby Wagner enough. What does

1056
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: he mean to this football team. Well, Bobby is a

1057
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: real student in the game. When he first came up,

1058
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: he was I mean, he's always been a really smart

1059
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: football player, but when he first came up, he relied

1060
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: almost exclusively on great physical ability. Not real big, but

1061
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: really quick, could diagnose and would hit you a ton.

1062
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Over the years, as you know, watching any linebacker and

1063
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: we're watching any player, they tend to start to lose

1064
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: some of those physical skills. Well, he's worked really hard

1065
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: to keep it as best he can, takes care of

1066
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: his body. But now watch his film like a crazy person.

1067
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: He's always in there. He's watching it at home, he's

1068
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: watching at the practice facility. There are times when you'll

1069
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: see Bobby kind of get knocked back by a guard,

1070
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, coming out, and he's got to kind of

1071
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: fight through that and he'll make the tackle, but it'll

1072
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: be about four yards five yards deep, and that not

1073
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: that that's a cause for concern. That's his job to

1074
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: make those plays. You'd like to see some of those

1075
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: linemens stay off of him, you know, with the help

1076
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: of the defensive front. But you know there's still he

1077
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: leads the NFL in tackles. Jordan Brooks, his running mate there,

1078
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: the youngster at linebacker who probably one day take over

1079
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: for Bobby in the middle, is like the leading league.

1080
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: So it gives you some idea, first of all, how

1081
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: good a tacklers these guys are. Unfortunately, it also tells

1082
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: you how much our defense has been on the field

1083
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: when you have that many chances to make tackles. Steve Rabel,

1084
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: voice of Seattle Seahawks with US on Texans Radio. Steve,

1085
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: what about the division we were in Arizona. They're obviously

1086
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: very tough, and they got through that non Kyler, Murray

1087
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins period pretty well for themselves. But what do

1088
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: you think of the other three out in the NFC

1089
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: West right now? Yeah, and those Cardinals caught us at

1090
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: just the time when we didn't need them to to

1091
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: play well with their backups because we had you know,

1092
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: Rust didn't play and obviously we had the other issues

1093
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: as well. Um. You know, the Cardinals are the cream

1094
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: of the crop right now, and them, along with Tampa Bay,

1095
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: I think the two best teams in the NFC. And

1096
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: I think if if Kyler stays healthy the rest of

1097
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: the way, they're going to be a team to be

1098
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: reckoned with at the end. They're just so explosive, they

1099
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: do so many things well, and defensively, they've they've they've

1100
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a surprise, but sometimes they do surprise. Buddha

1101
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: Baker kind of leads the way. But they've got a

1102
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: lot of good football players on that team. Talking to

1103
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Pete one day a couple of weeks ago before, in fact,

1104
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: that the game with Arizona when they came up here

1105
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: and beat us a close game, but Pete said something

1106
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: to the effect that, you know, they've got a lot

1107
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: of great football players and they'll kind of understand. They

1108
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: can see what's coming. Certainly in Phoenix, what's going to

1109
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: happen when they have to give Kyler Murray his second contract,

1110
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: and that next contract he's going to make about a

1111
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: quarter of the salary cap. As we found out here,

1112
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: Suddenly you don't have all those great football players, all

1113
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: those great free agents, because you can't afford it anymore.

1114
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: So that becomes an issue for them. On the Rams side,

1115
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, they're up and down more than I've seen

1116
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: him this year, more than I've seen him in years past,

1117
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: up and down. They don't run the ball as well

1118
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: as they have in the past. I think they're depending

1119
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: a lot on their quarterback Stafford, and he's had some

1120
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: good games and bad games. So I think they're a

1121
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: team that we can go down there and beat. We

1122
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: go on the road to see them next week, and

1123
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: as far as San Francisco, we always seem to have

1124
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: their numbers. So we've played well this week against them,

1125
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: beat him twice this season, and that helps make an

1126
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: otherwise kind of dismal season this year a little bit

1127
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: more palatable. If you will, Steve, you played wide receiver

1128
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, so I think your perspective is so

1129
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: valuable in so many different ways, but in this particular question,

1130
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: share this with me. When the Seahawks go on the road,

1131
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: they travel farther than any other NFL team just to

1132
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: get to the closest opponent. And when you come east,

1133
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: anywhere east, it's got to be that body clock adjustment

1134
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: that so many of the West Coast teams have on

1135
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: top of being farther away than just about every other team.

1136
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: So what is it like when you travel east with

1137
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Well, it's better now than it was early

1138
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: on in Peach's tenure here. We just had a heck

1139
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: of a time. We couldn't win games going back east

1140
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Some of it is psychological, some of

1141
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: it is just, you know, we weren't very good or

1142
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: weren't as good at football teams as we have been

1143
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: the last seven or eight years now, certainly through the

1144
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl years that we've had. But you know, there

1145
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: is that we always used to talk about him. When

1146
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: I play geez, you don't get to sleep in your

1147
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: own bed, and the schedule is different when you're on

1148
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: the road. Just simple things. When do you leave the

1149
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: hotel where you know the stadium, the locker room, all

1150
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: that stuff. That said, these guys now travel in a

1151
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: way that is almost foreign to when I played. I

1152
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: played back in the late seventies and early eighties, and

1153
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: for an East Coast game, we would leave at our

1154
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: plane would lift off at six o'clock on Saturday morning,

1155
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and we'd fly into let's say New York,

1156
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: we're going back there to play at the old Giant Stadium,

1157
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: and we'd get there and go right to the stadium

1158
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: and we'd have our Saturday walk through, special teams practice,

1159
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Our coach at the time, Jack Potera,

1160
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: figuring that listen, get up early, let's let's get a

1161
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: good workout in on Saturday. You'll be tired enough on

1162
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: Saturday night that you'll sleep. The time difference won't bother you.

1163
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: And in many cases that was the case. We'd go

1164
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: back East and we'd win a lot of games back there.

1165
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: But now the way it is, and these guys understand better,

1166
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, they have all these these physical therapists and

1167
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: all these guys who understand these body clocks and things.

1168
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Pete does it right, and they do they do everything

1169
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: they can do to get the players in that right

1170
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 1: frame of mind, so that they step out on the field,

1171
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 1: they're they're they're ready to go. They're rested, Uh, they're

1172
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: healed in many cases, and and you know they're they're

1173
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: they're prepared to make those snap decisions that you have

1174
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: to make on the football field if you want to

1175
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: win a game. Absolutely all right. So give me a

1176
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: good Chuck Knox story. I just I need to hear

1177
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: something from that era. You know, I was a fan

1178
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: Dave Craig, Kurt Warner, the running back, Hurt Warner. For

1179
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: those who don't know, uh that, those teams were very interesting.

1180
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: So do you have something for us? Oh gosh, there's

1181
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: so many great Chuck knock stories. Uh some most of them,

1182
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: half of them off the field. Um. But yeah, he

1183
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: I well, I remember the one year I think it

1184
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: was eighty four he drafted when he got here in

1185
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: in um eighty three, he drafted Kurt Warner was his

1186
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: first ever draft pick. So the running back of course

1187
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: from Penn State. And just that's what you know. I mean,

1188
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: he didn't get ground Chuck that name for nothing, and

1189
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: he wanted the best running back in the country at

1190
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: the time, and he got him, and the next year,

1191
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Kurt blew out his knee in the first or second

1192
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: game of the season, a home game against Cleveland ACL

1193
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Nobody touched him and it just blew out, and so

1194
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: the ground. Chuck suddenly became this team effort to run

1195
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: the ball. But he also was able and understood, Hey,

1196
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: I got a guy like Steve Largent, I got some

1197
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: other guys, Darryl Turner, eventually Paul Scanzy, I have some

1198
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: guys who can catch the football, so let's open it

1199
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Let's give our offense a chance

1200
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: to really fly. That was also one of the determining

1201
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: factors I think that went from Jim Zorn to Dave Craig.

1202
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: Jim was more of a scrambler, maybe not quite as

1203
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: accurate as Dave as a passer, who was much more

1204
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: likely to step back into pocket, stay there and throw

1205
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: the football, so he was able to adjust. I mean,

1206
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: he was a really terrific coach that way. One of

1207
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: the best stories I ever remember about Chuck was I

1208
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: got to know him pretty well off the field, and

1209
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: my broadcast partner at the time when I was doing

1210
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: the analyst job after retiring from football, was a guy

1211
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: named Pete Gross. And Pete was here for the first

1212
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: what twelve years fourteen years of the franchise as a

1213
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: play by play guy. Anyway, us three couples, Pete and

1214
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: his wife, myself and Sharon, my wife, and Chuck Knox

1215
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: and his wife Shirley all went to dinner one night

1216
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: at a little Italian restaurant here in Seattle that he'd

1217
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to go to, and we went. We had

1218
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: a great meal, and he's telling stories and they had

1219
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: a little three piece combo up there playing jazz, and

1220
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm a drummer. So Pete Chuck walks up to the

1221
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: band of the piano player and said, Hey, my buddy

1222
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: over here, Steve Rabel can play drums. Can you let

1223
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: him set in? And he put like a fifty in

1224
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: the guy's jar for request, and the guy said absolutely,

1225
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: And so I went up and played some drums with

1226
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,479
Speaker 1: the jazz group. Meantime, Chuck goes over to the bar

1227
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: and is holding court with everybody else in the restaurant

1228
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: telling stories. He was just remarkable that way. He was

1229
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: so much fun, such a dear person. It was a

1230
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: sad moment when we lost him here a couple of

1231
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: years ago, but what a what a wonderful, wonderful guy

1232
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: and a heck of a football coach. As good as

1233
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: the home field advantage is where you are now the Kingdome,

1234
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: how does it stack up to home field advantage as

1235
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: we see around the league today? Well different, certainly acoustically,

1236
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: the Kingdom was just that big mushroom concrete top that

1237
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: all the sound just stayed right inside there, and it

1238
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: was just it was almost brutal at times. It could

1239
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: get so loud. It was great. It was a great,

1240
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: as you said, home field advantage for us. The thing

1241
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: was though, that it was inside, and so we always

1242
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: knew coming in we'd have a sixty eight degree day

1243
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: and dry, and that was good for us at times.

1244
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: It was also good for the other guys that you

1245
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: put a fast team on the other side of the

1246
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: ball from You're like San Diego who had Danny Fouls

1247
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: throwing the ball in, the great receivers and Charlie Joyner

1248
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and the rest Chandler. Those guys winslow and they were

1249
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: tough to beat because they were so quick and so good.

1250
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: But it was it was always nice to be inside.

1251
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: The new stadium now, which has been through a number

1252
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: of iterations, name wise, but it's lumin field now was

1253
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: designed so that the kind of they have the cannilever

1254
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: top that partially covers all of the upper deck and

1255
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: most of the lower deck, and the sound rolls up

1256
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: into it and then is reflected right back down onto

1257
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: the field, so in a way you get that same

1258
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: noise factor. And also the place. I mean, it's just

1259
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful place, and we have more. You know,

1260
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: the Kingdom was very utilitarian. It had like one escalator

1261
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: and not enough bathrooms and all those things. This place

1262
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: has got it. All The suites are fabulous and all

1263
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: those things. And there's a seismometer not far away to

1264
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: register when the place really goes crazy. During the one

1265
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: of the touchdowns this last weekend against the Niners, again

1266
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: the place was shaking and albeta seismometer was recording that

1267
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: somewhere in the Seattle area. It's just a wonderful facility,

1268
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: a great home field. We raised the twelve flag, and

1269
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: it's just caused for great celebration, especially when we win,

1270
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: which unfortunately we haven't done enough of this year. Well,

1271
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: the franchise went through something that Houston Astros fans can

1272
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: relate to because they were in the National League Central.

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Speaker 1: Now they're in the AL West, but with the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: being in the AFC West, and you know, you hinted

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Speaker 1: at it seeing fouts in those guys coming into the

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Speaker 1: Kingdome and the old days of the Broncos and John

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Speaker 1: Elway and everything. Who's the biggest rival that you still

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Speaker 1: think about that the fan base still identifies with from

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Speaker 1: that division. When the Seahawks played in the AFC West, oh,

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Speaker 1: hands down the Raiders. But then everybody hated the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody. I think most people still do, even

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Speaker 1: though they're in Las Vegas. I mean I've been around

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Speaker 1: the Raiders long enough that they were in Oakland, then

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, then back to Oakland, now Las Vegas. So

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Speaker 1: if you know you have any memory of those teams,

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Speaker 1: and they were always the bully on the block, you know,

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Speaker 1: they won a lot of football games. They won Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: During the time that I was playing, John Madden was coaching,

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Speaker 1: and then Tom Flores after that, before Tom came up

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Speaker 1: here as the president and then ultimately the coach. That

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Speaker 1: was kind of a disastrous time, but not a nicer

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Speaker 1: gentleman on the planet than Tom Flores. But we won

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Speaker 1: a lot of those games. I remember in nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: we went down to Oakland. We had beaten the Raiders

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Speaker 1: up here in Seattle earlier in the season. Then we

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Speaker 1: go to Oakland and we play them down there and

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Speaker 1: it comes down to an effort Herrera field goal with

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Speaker 1: twelve seconds left and we win the game. There. We

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Speaker 1: beat him twice that season, and I think they went

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Speaker 1: on and won the Super Bowl that year. So we

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Speaker 1: had had you know, we kind of had their number

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But it was always great to play

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Speaker 1: them Denver. We had a pretty good, you know, rivalry

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Speaker 1: with much tougher to play at mile high when you're

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Speaker 1: not used to it. Obviously, the altitude. I can remember

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Speaker 1: many times going in in the locker room after the

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Speaker 1: game and just lying on the floor and heaving until

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Speaker 1: you finally get your breath. Wow, that's just until you

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Speaker 1: get used to it. That's that's the way it is

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Speaker 1: up there. So yeah, it's it's it's the NFC West

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Speaker 1: now is a great place to be. San Francisco would

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Speaker 1: probably be considered our biggest rival, but in those days,

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Speaker 1: it was the Raiders. Steve great Stuff, Efren Herrera, what

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Speaker 1: a name, pull that's great. I can remember the old names.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the news very well, but I remember

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Speaker 1: the old guys a lot of names. Well, Steve, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for the visit. We really appreciate it and

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Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you on Sunday. Mark pleasure. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Take care, don't have too much good luck. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: we haven't had too much. We'll see what happens, okay,

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Speaker 1: but thank you. I had seen an NFL Films segment

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Speaker 1: that was done on Steve and everybody talked about him

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Speaker 1: just being salt of the earth. This is kind of

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Speaker 1: guy you just absolutely love and you can hear that

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Speaker 1: come through in that interview with Steve Rabel. That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Steve and Mark two of the best in the business.

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Speaker 1: Right there. Andre Davis is one of the best returners

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Speaker 1: in the business. He joins Drew on a little where

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Speaker 1: are they now next? On Texas Oxis X on Texas

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Speaker 1: Oxis X on Texas Oxis. I am calling all my

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Speaker 1: Houston area teachers out there. You want to bring a

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Speaker 1: little Texas football to your classrooms, well good then sign up.

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Toros Math Drills to learn more. And

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Speaker 1: I welcome you back to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: And because it's Wednesday, that means it's time for Where

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Speaker 1: are They Now with Drew Doherty. This week it's returner extraordinary,

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Speaker 1: big play receiver Andre Davis. Drew take it away. Always

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Speaker 1: fun catching up with former texts, and this one's a

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Speaker 1: good one. It's Andre Davis, wide receiver for the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: You played here in seven and o, eight oh nine

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Speaker 1: and ten. And when you look back at your career,

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Speaker 1: if you just google your name, Andre, you see lots

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Speaker 1: of stuff about a ninety nine yard touchdown reception, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and four yard kickoff return for a touchdown. You

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Speaker 1: always went deep and you scored a lot in your

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Speaker 1: time in the league and in college. And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into that. But first things first, where are you

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Speaker 1: these days? And what are you doing? Oh? Yes, I

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Speaker 1: am in the great state of Delaware. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are probably having a hard time wondering

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Speaker 1: where is Delaware? Well, I'm on the East coast up

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Speaker 1: in the northeast, a great location. I'm kind of in

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Speaker 1: the middle of everything. It's a small town that's growing

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Speaker 1: tremendously right now called Middletown, Delaware. About forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: from Philly, hour from Baltimore, two hours from DC in

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Speaker 1: New York City, so I can get to the beaches

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Speaker 1: in an hour. I can get to the mountains in

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania in about an hour and a half as well.

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Speaker 1: So I'm right where I want to be right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a good part of the country. I'm actually I

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Speaker 1: know what you mean when you say Delaware, and I

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Speaker 1: know a little bit about Delaware. I've been to Delaware

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Speaker 1: quite a bit. I like the state of Delaware. It's

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Speaker 1: a great place and that anyways, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What I mean, you live in there, but what do

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Speaker 1: you what are you doing? Yeah? Absolutely, I'm a husband

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Speaker 1: of eighteen years, I'm a father of four. I got

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Speaker 1: four wonderful young kids right now that we have the

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Speaker 1: job in and of itself right taking care of the family,

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Speaker 1: making sure everyone is where they need to be. Oftentimes,

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Speaker 1: I think of myself as an uber driver for my

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Speaker 1: kid with all the activities that we have going on

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Speaker 1: all over the place, but it's a great opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be here with them at this season in their lives

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Speaker 1: right now and just really being able to see them grow,

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Speaker 1: but and being able to really take advantage of my

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Speaker 1: platform and my time in the NFL. I also realized

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Speaker 1: I wanted to give back to my all motor as well.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't know, I graduated

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Speaker 1: from Virginia Tech back in two thousand and one. It's

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Speaker 1: just one of those things that you know, going through

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Speaker 1: all of those different transitions in life, from high school

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Speaker 1: to college, colleging to the pros, and then the pros

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Speaker 1: into figuring out what you want to do with the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life. I always had it on my

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Speaker 1: heart to be able to give back. I believe that

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Speaker 1: service is really a part of who I am and

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Speaker 1: what I've been placed here on earth to do. And

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Speaker 1: I'm currently the director of Student Athletes Support and Community

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Speaker 1: Engagement at Virginia Tech and really what that allows me

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Speaker 1: to do is to be an ambassador of the athletic department,

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Speaker 1: to be able to give back to those current student

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Speaker 1: athletes who are there helping them to make the most

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Speaker 1: of their opportunities while they're in school. It allows me

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Speaker 1: to speak with donors who are there who are giving

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Speaker 1: back to the athletic department as well as to the

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Speaker 1: college and being able to help them understand how far

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Speaker 1: it goes when you're able to provide scholarships for the

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Speaker 1: student athletes and the great opportunities and programs that are

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Speaker 1: involved there as well. To be able to give our

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Speaker 1: student athletes resources to be able to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: the best students that they can be. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun being able to go down there and help

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Speaker 1: recruit as well and being able to talk to them

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Speaker 1: about my experience, you know, being I was a football

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Speaker 1: All American as well as an academic All American while

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Speaker 1: I was at school at Virginia Tech. So to be

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Speaker 1: able to kind of just go through my life and

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Speaker 1: be able to share the different things that I went

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Speaker 1: through and how Virginia Tech made me successful is something

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Speaker 1: that I enjoy doing when I get back there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you played eight years in the NFL. You just mentioned

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Speaker 1: the All American status and whatnot. Phenomenal athlete and if

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Speaker 1: you played college athletics, you're a phenomenal athlete. But the

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Speaker 1: but the best majority of those scholar athletes don't wind

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Speaker 1: up getting to do their sport as professionals. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: you're kind of helping funnel guys and gals into possible

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Speaker 1: careers elsewhere and give them opportunities open doors for me,

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of what I'm getting into when I'm

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Speaker 1: picking up from what you just said. And how rewarding

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Speaker 1: is that when you get to do that. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And kudos once again to all of our educators and

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Speaker 1: all of ours and everyone who's out there given their

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Speaker 1: all to help the next generation be able to be successful,

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Speaker 1: because it is one of those things that a lot

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Speaker 1: of times you don't know how it turns out. When

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Speaker 1: you get a chance to speak to the student athletes,

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Speaker 1: when you get a chance to see recruits. They might

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Speaker 1: not come to your college, but you have these moments

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Speaker 1: of being able to share just nuggets of wisdom of

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Speaker 1: experiences that you've been through and to be able to

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Speaker 1: be there and help them through those times and try

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Speaker 1: to make them aware of pitfalls that might be in

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Speaker 1: their way, but even more so, help them to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of all of the opportunities that are right in

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Speaker 1: front of them while they're in school. I try to

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Speaker 1: put myself back in their shoes. And I know it's

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Speaker 1: going on a couple of years now since I've been

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Speaker 1: in their shoes, but it's one of those things that

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01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: they put so much stock in wanting to go professional

1444
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: or wanting to be the best that they can be

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Speaker 1: in their sports, and that is very admirable and that

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Speaker 1: is something that I continue to push them on. But

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Speaker 1: I also want them to understand that this is going

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Speaker 1: to be for a temporary amount of time, even if

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Speaker 1: that's you playing a long time for football. You know,

1450
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: if you play ten years, let's say you get there,

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01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: you're probably only going to be in your low thirties

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01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: by the time you get done and retire from there.

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Speaker 1: And to be able to have an education that you

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01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: can always fall back on or even use during your

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Speaker 1: times in the NFL and in the all seasons, and

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: being able to build relationships and networks. I think people

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01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: are starting to get a better understanding of that now,

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01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: especially in the landscape of professional sports. You're seeing athletes

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Speaker 1: all over the place take advantage of their platforms to

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Speaker 1: give them a wider platform for when they retire. But

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Speaker 1: andre that's not all you're doing at Virginia Tech is it.

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01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm involved with the campaign staring as well as on

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01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: the college board, and so it's just finding ways to

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01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: get back once again, not only on the student athletes side,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of how things started with me there,

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Speaker 1: but through those relationships and as people hear my story

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Speaker 1: in the ways of giving back, they see how I

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Speaker 1: could be of service in other areas. So you know,

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Speaker 1: to all of us as athletes, we are much more

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Speaker 1: powerful than you know we could ever imagine with the

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Speaker 1: platform and the stories and experiences that we have. So

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Speaker 1: I hope that you know, we won't take that for granted,

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Speaker 1: but that we would be able to use these as

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Speaker 1: a way to open up new doors to really be

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Speaker 1: able to give back in different ways because we have

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Speaker 1: a lot to share. All right, let's talk about your

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Speaker 1: college days right now. It's twenty twenty one. We're in

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Speaker 1: the final month of the season basically, and if you

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,440
Speaker 1: played college football, you're on TV. Your your game is broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter where you play college football, I mean down

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: to some of the lower levels. Even basically every college

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Speaker 1: football team it's in Division one, they're on TV. That

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: was not the case twenty five years ago. Virginia Tech

1484
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: was on TV a lot, but the nation didn't necessarily

1485
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: see every Virginia Tech game or have the opportunities see

1486
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: every Virginia Tech game. And you played with Michael Vick,

1487
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 1: you played for a national title January fourth, two thousand

1488
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: and you guys were like a revelation. I mean, people

1489
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: were having their minds blown seeing what you guys were

1490
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: able to do. What was it like being a part

1491
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: of that team when you were there, because it's it's

1492
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: the best Virginia Tech team of all time and it

1493
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: was an amazing, amazing set of guys. Yeah. Absolutely. It's

1494
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: funny that you mentioned that all the teams are on

1495
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: TV right now because I remember when I was being

1496
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: when I was making my choices between my colleges, there

1497
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of smaller schools up in the Northeast

1498
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: that were recruiting me. And when I made the choice

1499
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: I go to Virginia Tech, I was like, well, those

1500
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: guys play on TV. You know, maybe if I played

1501
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: pretty well, there might be an opportunity to, you know,

1502
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,879
Speaker 1: get to the next level. Not really understanding how everything

1503
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: works from that level. So to see, you know, once again,

1504
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: being one of those schools that's kind of on the

1505
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: outskirts that you're trying to make a name for yourself.

1506
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: They were playing well, but like you said, not a

1507
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: lot of people around the country you knew who Virginia

1508
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 1: Tech was and to be a part of that success

1509
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: to get to the point where we went undefeated in

1510
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: the regular season and played against Florida State in the

1511
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: National championship game, it was absolutely amazing seeing how the

1512
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: team came together. Oftentimes you have a feeling as you're

1513
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: going through the season that we've got something special here

1514
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: when you see the defense playing well and you're trying

1515
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: to outdo them on offense. And then special teams. I mean,

1516
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: we have the legendary coach Frank Beemer, who really thought

1517
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: us team, you know, taught us how important special teams

1518
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: could be and how you can make such an impact

1519
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: at certain points in the game that a lot of

1520
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,879
Speaker 1: people think are it's just a change of possession, you know, ultimately,

1521
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: just don't fumble the ball, get the snap off, punt it.

1522
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: A lot of people look at it from that standpoint,

1523
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: whereas coach Bamber looked at it like this could be

1524
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: a momentum changer at any given point in time, and

1525
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: we seem start to interrupt, But it seemed like once

1526
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: a game, the Hookeys were either blocking a kick or

1527
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: taking a kick back, and you were a part of that.

1528
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean every single game it seemed like, you know,

1529
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: there's a special teams whopper of a play. Yeah. Absolutely.

1530
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: I think I can look back and say, my first

1531
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: ESPN highlight was blocking a punt against Boston College up

1532
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: in Boston College. And then to be able to end

1533
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: off and be the you know, punt returner on the

1534
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: team or turning touchdowns. I mean, I was firsthand one

1535
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: of those guys who understood how special special teams really

1536
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: were and how it could make such a difference in

1537
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: the game. And I think for us that year, that's

1538
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: what made that year so special is that anytime you

1539
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: were on the field, I mean I can recall wanting

1540
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: to just stand up and watch because you never knew

1541
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: when we were going to get a turnover, you never

1542
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: knew when a big play was going to happen. You

1543
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: just didn't want to miss it. And so being a

1544
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: part of that and made the game fun because you're

1545
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: always trying to outdo each other. And when you have

1546
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: that kind of competitive nature and then you have the

1547
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: success that follows there. It was a great time to

1548
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: be a hokey back then in high school. I think

1549
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 1: the story goes, you were a soccer player, you wound

1550
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: up getting into football later. You had always done track

1551
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 1: and field, you always had the speed and everything. You

1552
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: come to Virginia Tech and you mentioned that you guys

1553
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: are undefeated in that one season and you play for

1554
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 1: the national title. I think in a two year span

1555
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: that you were there, you guys lost two games total.

1556
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong there. When did you start

1557
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: getting noticed you think by the NFL. Was it immediate?

1558
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: Was it something like that kind of came over time?

1559
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: How'd that go for you? Yeah? I think it was

1560
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: after that season. Then the game that we went to

1561
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: the National Championship game, and being the leading receiver on

1562
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: that team, you kind of touchdown in the game, and

1563
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: you caught a touchdown in the National Championship game. I

1564
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: think when I got a chance to reflect on that season,

1565
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: it was just like, man, I'm I think I'm playing

1566
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: pretty well, Like I might be able to do this

1567
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: at the next level, Like I need to take it

1568
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 1: even more serious than realize, like, man, there's a future

1569
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: in this. And then I think halfway through the next

1570
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: season in two thousand, So the two thousand season are

1571
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: only lost that year was to Miami, who I believe

1572
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: won the national championship that year. When Miami was Miami,

1573
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, their team was so stacked that year,

1574
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: and I want to say Andre Johnson was on the team.

1575
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they had so many star players, all Americans

1576
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: and even you know hall of famers, not just potentially

1577
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: college football Hall of famers, but NFL Hall of famers

1578
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: that were on that team. It was probably sometime in

1579
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: that year. I got hurt in that season, but there

1580
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: was a nationally televised game when we played against West

1581
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: Virginia and I had three touchdowns in six minutes. One

1582
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,799
Speaker 1: on it was like a thirty yard reverse and then

1583
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: a sixty yard bomb by Mike Mike Vick to myself,

1584
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 1: and then a seventy yard punt return for a touchdown.

1585
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm back to back to back possessions. And it was

1586
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: after that game where I was like, Okay, this is it.

1587
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: I think I could play at the next level. Golly,

1588
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: what was it like playing with Mike Vick. Tyrod Taylor's

1589
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback here and he's a Virginia tech guy. He

1590
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: loves Mike Vick. He's there from the same area and everything.

1591
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: But what was it like play with He's got a

1592
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: zillion great stories about him. What was it like playing

1593
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: with Mike Vick? Absolutely, and shout out to tyrod Man.

1594
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of everything that he's doing right now,

1595
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: and then continued success, wishing him team success for the

1596
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: rest of this year and for the Texans. I mean,

1597
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: it was special from the moment that he got there.

1598
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: I was here a year before him, and because of

1599
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: how well he did, he left a year before I did,

1600
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: so he didn't have to stay too long. Being the

1601
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 1: number one draft picked overall, it took me a little

1602
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: more time to mature. Get okay, you did Okay. It

1603
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: was special, you know, seeing him at that point. Our

1604
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: defense was playing pretty solid. Our offense had to really

1605
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: step up to try to match what our defense was

1606
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: doing at that time. And I remember Mike being on

1607
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: scout team and this was the year that they red

1608
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: shirted him, and you know, he traveled with the team

1609
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: the whole year just to get a gist of what

1610
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: it was like being on game day, but being on

1611
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: the scout team with him and seeing the things that

1612
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: he was doing to our starting defense. It was ridiculous.

1613
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: It was a pretty amazing to see that. You know,

1614
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: you've got guys here who are Defensive Player of the Year,

1615
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, from the Big East, and you know all

1616
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: Big East members that are out there, and he's running

1617
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: circles around these guys and getting open and zipping the

1618
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: ball in there. And I think it was at that

1619
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: point that we knew we had something special. But I

1620
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: don't think any of us knew really the outcome of

1621
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: what it would be, but we knew we could go

1622
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: out there and do some damage. It always funny to

1623
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: hear those stories about guys like that when they have

1624
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: to play scout team and they probably shouldn't be playing

1625
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: scout team. They're just it's almost counterproductive because the defense

1626
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: is trying to get a look and nothing that they're

1627
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: going to see on game day is as good as

1628
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 1: what you know this guy's doing, or as unique as

1629
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: what a guy like Mike Vick is doing. So you

1630
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: wind up getting drafted by the Cleveland Browns two thousand

1631
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: and two. Cleveland Browns go to the playoffs that year,

1632
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: and it was the first time they'd been I mean,

1633
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: what was it like rookie season. What was it like

1634
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: getting drafted? I mean, take me through the draft weekend

1635
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: and then that rookie year that you had in Cleveland.

1636
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: The draft weekend was really interesting. I think because I

1637
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: started football so late, I had no frame of reference

1638
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: of how it's to take this. No one told me

1639
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: anything about it. It was just one of those things

1640
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: like things are about to change. I was at home,

1641
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: my small hometown of Niska Una, New York. Shout out

1642
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: to Niska Una. It's just with my family, my girlfriend

1643
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: at the time, she's my fiance at the time, and

1644
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: it was just family and friends sitting there watching TV

1645
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: and waiting to, you know, hear the phone ring, and

1646
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: it was It was a lot of fun just being

1647
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: around family, but very nerve racking being there and waiting.

1648
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: And I remember the first phone call I got was

1649
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: from the Arizona Cardinals, and at that point, you know,

1650
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: your mindset starts going to all right, it's gonna be hot,

1651
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: but man, that's nice weather, like okay, Like I got

1652
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: my mindset around that. Maybe three minutes after that phone call,

1653
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns call and say, hey, Andrea, we're gonna

1654
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: pick you up and so of course you've got to

1655
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: have that quick change of pace and say, okay, no

1656
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: more Arizona Weather. We got Cleveland, We got those winners

1657
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: and that wind off of the lake coming. But at

1658
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, hey, they picked up the

1659
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: phone and they actually, you know, backed it up and

1660
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: they chose me. I believe I was a forty seventh

1661
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: overall pick in the second round. And it's one of

1662
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: those things that's a dream come true of wanting to

1663
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: be a professional ap fleet. When I was younger, I

1664
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: wanted to run in the Olympics. I really wanted to

1665
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: be a professional athlete. I did not know it was

1666
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 1: going to be football would be the way to go,

1667
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: but it was something that was a great experience to

1668
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: be able to have that with my family. And then

1669
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 1: you get there. It's a good team that year, I

1670
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: mean they went to the playoffs and what was it

1671
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: like playing for Butch Davis and being a part of

1672
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: that crew that did what they did that that you're

1673
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. True, it's one of those things that's very

1674
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to put into words, is that your

1675
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: first season, you go and you go into the playoffs

1676
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: and it's like Oh that was It was tough. It

1677
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: was a tough season, but like, hey, we're here. We've

1678
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: got a good team. We had a good mix of

1679
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: veteran players and young players, and I felt that was

1680
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: something that was really important to have because a lot

1681
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: of us younger players, we all wanted to start. You know,

1682
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,719
Speaker 1: that's everyone's goal is you want to be a starter.

1683
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think everyone understood their role,

1684
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: and I think that's something that's very important that you

1685
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: have on a team, is that when you understand your role,

1686
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: you're able to go in there and be the best

1687
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: you can be for whatever and however many snaps you

1688
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: may be out there when you're not sitting there because

1689
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: you know, mad on the sidelines, like oh I should

1690
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: be this, I should be that. All of a sudden,

1691
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: they put you in there and now you're cold. Your

1692
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: mindset's all messed up, and you know you fail on

1693
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Speaker 1: the opportunities you get. I know we're all supposed to

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01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: be professional, but a lot of guys, you know, these

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01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: things creep up in your mind when you're out there

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: getting ready to play. So I thought everyone knew their role,

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: and it's stunk that we lost to Pittsburgh. I think

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01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: that year three times, and all three games we lost

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: by three points. Especially the playoff one hurt because I

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01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: want to say, we were leading the game, either into

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: halftime or into the third quarter. We were leading and

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: ended up you know, losing that game. So to see

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01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: that happened, we had very high hopes going into the

1704
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: next year, but that's when the business side of things

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01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: really kicked in and they ended up we ended up

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01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: losing a lot of our veteran players because of the

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01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: success that a lot of the young players have. And

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: that was kind of my first experience really seeing how

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01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: thet you know, things work with business on young players

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01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: and really trying to get the best bang for your buck.

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Speaker 1: Well that's some great stuff from Andre Davis. Man, there's

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: so many Andreas around. You gotta make sure that when

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01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: I say Andre, you're like, Okay, is it? Where is it? Johnson?

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Speaker 1: Is it Davis? Which one is it? Well? This case,

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01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 1: it was Andre Davis, who, like I said, made one

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01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: of those great one of the great catches I think

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: in Texas history on a deep ball from Sage Rosenfels

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01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seven game against the Titans, and

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01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: it would have remained one of the great plays of

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: all time for the Texans. Had the Titans not coming

1721
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 1: right back down, carry Collins leading them to a win

1722
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: and Rob Barona's fuel go at the end. It's you

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01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:53,480
Speaker 1: know the game I'm talking about. It's an absolute disaster

1724
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: and Sage roseah Fells brings them back in the fourth

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01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: quarter and Andre Davis was a big part of that.

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Speaker 1: All right, we get back. Well, we're gonna go round.

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Speaker 1: The league got a shorty, So I got a Schlumbers

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01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: a stats challenge for you, some quick information and what's

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: going on in the NFL, and we'll do that next

1730
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: in Texas Axis. Next in Texas Axis, Next in Texas Axis.

1731
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: We got one finals segment of this edition of Texas

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Speaker 1: All Access, and I want to remind parents to register

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01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: their kids twelve and under to become a Toro's Kids

1734
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: Club member for free and submit their holiday wish list

1735
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 1: for their chance to be granted at least one item

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Speaker 1: off of that list from Santa Toro. That's right. Learn

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: more at Houston Texans dot com. We got one final

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01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: segment on this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. Glad

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01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: you've been with me. John Harris Football analyst, sideline reporter

1740
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: for your Texans. It's time for our Schlumberge Stats Challenge

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01:23:54,040 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: of the Week. Last week, Comu Grugier was outstanding. He

1742
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: set a record for tackles in a game for the

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01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Texans with eighteen plus one makes nineteen. Yeah, I messed up.

1744
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't eighteen, it was nineteen. I messed up the

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01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: punch line. But I saved it, I think because eighteen

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01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: plus one is nineteen and nineteen tackles. I remember early

1747
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: in the game, Mark saying, man Commo Grugier, Hills got

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01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: seven tackles already, and I looked up the clock and

1749
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: it was I think halfway through the first quarter. So

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01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Comu had been getting it done in that game, and

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: hopefully he will do that against the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday.

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01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: Kickoff is at noon. Russell Wilson and the gang from

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: Seattle coming here the last two times they've come here

1754
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. We talked about that in are in

1755
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: the Labs segment. You know how that one ended, and

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: it changed lives. As Mark likes to say, Richard Sherman's

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: picks X and I played the call from Mark the

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01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: other day and right in the middle of it here,

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01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: no way, I mean he really he was calling the

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: action and then the interception. Just two thousand and nine,

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01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: though the Texans ripped the Seahawks thirty four to seven.

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01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking for more of that on Sunday more so

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01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: than anything else. But congrats Tokamu nineteen tackles a team record.

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Speaker 1: A big thanks to John Boyle, dep City, Drew Doherty,

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01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: Andre Davis, Mark Vandemir and of course GM Nick Casserio.

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Speaker 1: Will see tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texans.