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Speaker 1: Mo Kelly, I'm back and I'm in for John and Kin.

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Speaker 1: We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. And let's see what's

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Speaker 1: going on with this South Southwest airlines cancelations, delays. Blake

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Speaker 1: Trolley joins me now in studio, Blake, let me just

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Speaker 1: say Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. Is good to have you

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Speaker 1: in studio on this day. But what the heck is

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a lot of people's holiday breaks are

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Speaker 1: want them to. Nationwide, we'll just go We'll start there

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Speaker 1: with the national numbers. The airline is canceled more than

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred flights today. And of course this is

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Speaker 1: hitting airlines here, this is hitting airports including Orange County,

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Speaker 1: John Wayne, Long Beach, Lax, and Burbank. If you go

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Speaker 1: I checked the marquee. It was a real mix today

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Speaker 1: They showed up today and their flight was again. Scenes

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Speaker 1: it's something just to meet our knees while we are here.

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Speaker 1: rebook later. Were you a little bit frustrated that you

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Speaker 1: She says the issues go beyond whether She says the

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Speaker 1: And again with the Department of Transportation, they're also looking

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Speaker 1: John and Kin Show. I'm Okelly in for John and

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Speaker 1: Ken KF I am six forty. We are live everywhere

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Before the break, KFI Zone, Blake

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Speaker 1: and before the break, Blake I was wondering out loud

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Speaker 1: If he had this technology, as you said, it's not

430
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Speaker 1: hard to copy the way of ticular, he could have

431
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: put that in a similar envelope and just put it

432
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: on the windshield. But here's the thing that most of

433
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: these new age criminals don't do. They don't get out

434
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: soon enough. They get greedy. They got greedy. Everyone that

435
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: gets into these new crimes they get greedy, and that's

436
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: how they get caught. And he kept going back to

437
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: the same location, never revisited the scene of the crime.

438
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: If he did a different location each day. And I'm

439
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: not saying that he should have. And if you get

440
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: caught doing this and we want to point it back

441
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: to me or say you heard about this on CAFI,

442
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: no no no, no, no, no no. I'm not advocating

443
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: for this. I'm saying these are the mistakes that he made.

444
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: I don't know why he went back to the same beach.

445
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why he was handing it out himself.

446
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't know why he didn't take the time to

447
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: at least make it look like a real ticket. Again,

448
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: this is not a smart criminal. Fortunately, fortunately not a

449
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: smart criminal, and he's not part of a criminal enterprise

450
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: that's going around city of the city targeting, maybe following

451
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: elderly people home to see where they live to ticket

452
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: their cars. That would be the easiest way to go

453
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: about it. But again I'm not trying to give advice

454
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: to criminals. I'm saying, you know, I watch a lot

455
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: of criminal TV. I watch a lot of Law and Orders,

456
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: and I see how they get I see how they

457
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: get caught in the end of the episode. So always

458
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: think about these I think Law and Orders a little

459
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: bit more sophisticated with the nature of crime that they're

460
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: dealing with. They're not dealing with fake parking tickets. No

461
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: they're not. But they teach you how think and how

462
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: they go about coming after you, how they know how

463
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: to find you. I always think about the literal paper trail,

464
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: which and there was literal paper here, and there's also

465
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: the electronic trail that he was leaving. He was nineteen.

466
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to be a mastermind. But at

467
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: the same time, he didn't quite think it through. He

468
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: only thought it through as far as how can I

469
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: get people's money. Not how can I stay out of jail? Yes,

470
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is an individual like this

471
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: and all young people out there look to the FTX guy.

472
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how high you go on your criminal

473
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: enterprise level, you're gonna get caught. And this is what

474
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: I always say. I understand is someone thinks that if

475
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: he or she should do this one thing, they can

476
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: fundamentally change their life and end all their money problems.

477
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: I don't agree with ever doing that, but I at

478
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: least I understand the mentality. What I don't understand is

479
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: someone thinking that they can nickel and dime their way

480
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: to changing their life financially. Like in other words, when

481
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: someone robs a seven to eleven and it happens often, Yeah,

482
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: that two or three hundred dollars that you get, if

483
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: that is not worth going to jail for the next

484
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years, No, it's not. Did you see the

485
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: story about the ladies, the four ladies that went and

486
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: installed the safe. Yeah, they walk, they go in there,

487
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: they take the literal safe and go out in the

488
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: shop of the car. It's nine thousand dollars. All four

489
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: of them can serve some fifty to twenty years for

490
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars to split between four people. That's a

491
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: stupid crime. Now, the only other side of this there

492
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: are stupid criminals, and let's be honest, we're going to

493
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: talk about the stupid victims when we come back. Yeah,

494
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: if you are still getting romance scammed at this point

495
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, almost year, that's your fault. This

496
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: is the John ken Show, k if I am six forty.

497
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,920
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498
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Speaker 1: And of course you know me as a host of

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Speaker 1: them Kelly Show Saturdays and Sundays, or I should say

501
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: this final Saturday and Sunday from six to eight pm

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Speaker 1: and seven to ten pm, respectively. You can always find

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Speaker 1: me on social media at mister m'kelly that's Mr m

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Speaker 1: ok e l l Y, or my personal website mister

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00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: m'kelly dot com. And if you go there right now,

506
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: in terms of mister m'kelly dot com, you will see

507
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: the isolated interview between me and Jay Leno from yesterday.

508
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: A lot of great feedback on that. That was a

509
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: great moment for me personally, and hope we hopefully we'll

510
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: have more of those in the future, wherever I might be,

511
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: whatever I might be doing in twenty twenty three, whenever

512
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: we get around to that last actment. I was talking

513
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: about dumb criminals, and there are some dumb victims, now,

514
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be fair, it's not always on the criminals.

515
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I say victims like it kind of brought

516
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: it on yourself. I know you remember this, Twaller, Remember

517
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: AOL instant messenger, Awell instant Messenger or Yahoo Messenger. That

518
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: was when people really started connecting in a real time sense.

519
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: You would have certain dating websites, but the instant messenger

520
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: was how you could meet random folks and might have

521
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: been catfish you didn't know necessarily, but you were getting

522
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: to know a lot of people rather quickly online. Yeah,

523
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: and I can understand how some people could get taken

524
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: in those circumstances, but no one should be No one

525
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: could claim innocence anymore. No one could claim like I

526
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: just didn't know. You should know at this point, if

527
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: you've spent any time on the Internet, you don't know

528
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: who you're talking to basically, unless you've met that person,

529
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and if you have to go to another continent to

530
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: meet that person, there's a good chance it's a scam. Now,

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00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: I've never had a transatlantic or multicontinent relationship, Like I

532
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: haven't met somebody in South America and we're just talking

533
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: on the internet. No, that's never happened. Never long distance love. No,

534
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: not not even longer than like maybe a couple of states,

535
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: and we had actually had already met in person, you know,

536
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: in the rich day. Kay. So if I tell you

537
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: about this LA man who met a woman air quotes

538
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: online and they talked for about three months, chatted online

539
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: for three months, and then he decided to go meet

540
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: her in Columbia, that's a mistake number four at that point,

541
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: because the whole point of look, I will, if anything,

542
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: I will pay for you to come to Los Angeles.

543
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Because if I'm paying, I want to have control at

544
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: least of the situation. Or you know, I'll go half,

545
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: then she would go half. This is all hypothetically. I'm

546
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: married now, Okay, want to dictate the terms. Dictate the terms.

547
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: But if I'm going to go to Columbia and I

548
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: don't know you other than chatting online with you, that right,

549
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: there is suspect that is really suspect. Well, anyhow, this

550
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: guy went to Columbia. When he got there, he met

551
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: the woman and at the first meeting a man showed up.

552
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: In addition to this woman robbed him of six thousand

553
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: dollars and his cell phone. He's followed an incident report

554
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: with the local prosecutor's office. It's Columbia. Now, okay, yeah,

555
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: it's Columbia. I mean, I mean he could follow a

556
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: report with George Gascone. The same thing would happened, would

557
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: have been absolutely nothing. But my point is you're in Columbia.

558
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: What the hell are you doing in Columbia? Okay, all right, look,

559
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: let's go through don't try to explain this. Let's go

560
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: through this. Let's go through this. We have to look

561
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: at how lonely this man was. Loneliness is a real thing,

562
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: and that is how a lot of these scammers are

563
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: able to take advantage. That's is how they take advantage

564
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: of the elderly with those bank wire fraud scams to

565
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: some prince in Zaire or whatever. That is how they

566
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: do it because you have these older people who are

567
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: lonely and are just enjoying the conversation. Next thing, you know,

568
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: they're built out of thousands of dollars. There is no

569
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: conversation that that's good. That is that good? You've again,

570
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: if this is a dateless man who's been just gaming

571
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: his whole life and talking to people in other countries

572
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: on roadblocks or whatever it is he's doing, he could

573
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: easily have been duped by this beautiful woman because now

574
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: versus aol days, you're seeing images. He's probably sitting in them,

575
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: all types of tantalizing pictures they come and see me

576
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: in Colombia. You know, look, I would have I would

577
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: have gladly stepped in and introduced him to he's local LA.

578
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I can hook it up with some friends,

579
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, and they could offer conversation to more possibly MO.

580
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's I feel for this guy. My

581
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: heart goes out to someone who's that lonely into day's

582
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: age that they still fell forward. I've never been that

583
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: lonely where I'm willing to risk thousands of dollars. And

584
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: We've worked in the music industry long enough where people

585
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: come at us all sorts of ways, like can you help,

586
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: or you know, I nest need a little money for

587
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: this that the other. There's always an opportunity to someone

588
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: to take money off your hands and to take it

589
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: full circle to the top of the hour. How much

590
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: was the flight to Columbia so he's out that money too, Yeah, yeah,

591
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot. I think it's like totally and told

592
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: he was out like some six thousand dollars. No, he

593
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: was robbed of six thousand dollars, not including the flight

594
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: and his cell phone. And his cell phone so he

595
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: probably couldn't even call anyone. He didn't have any contacts.

596
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: The cartel got him. Now, Oh yeah, absolutely. Quote. I

597
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: wanted to have a serious relationship, but I've been robbed.

598
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Eduardo Villa Reale flew to northern Caribbean coast city of

599
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Santa Marta before Christmas to meet the woman who has

600
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: not been identified, after chatting to her online for three months.

601
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: No chat online? Is that good? Okay? No chat okay.

602
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: But we have also heard from rapper Cardi B, who

603
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: before she became rapper Cardi B, how she was part

604
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: of an enterprise that would lure men from the club

605
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: to a hotel and they get robbed there. That's locally

606
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: if it can happen locally. It can happen long distance

607
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: depending on the scam, depend on alcohol involved. I can

608
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: understand if you're at the club, you've had three or

609
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: four drinks and they're shaking that behind in front of you. Yes,

610
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: and Cardi B can shake it, and she had some behind.

611
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I get that we are simple in that regard. But

612
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: there's there's no conversation which she's sexy enough online to

613
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: make me get on a plane to go to Columbia

614
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: to make someone to have a shake in online saying, Hey,

615
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: turn on your camera watch me shaking. Wouldn't you like

616
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: to see me shake this in person? Come to Columbia

617
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: and come to this beautiful place. What you just listen

618
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: was that, Uh, it's the coast, coast of the water

619
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: of Columbia. Come and check us out. This is what

620
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing here. I want to see you in person.

621
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm too poor to fly to you. I'm just to

622
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: see you. A ticket on Southwest. Look he look, He

623
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: probably was like, I'm gonna go. It's a great vacation

624
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: for me. I've never been outside of LA For him,

625
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: he's for the father. He's probably traveled. It's probably been Vegas.

626
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you meet like halfway. It just seems to

627
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: me halfway. I don't Miami. Oh no, no, no, okay,

628
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: let's let's be honest. Eric. Have you flown to meet

629
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: someone that you've never met in person? Absolutely not? Mark Ronner?

630
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: Have you flown to meet someone, and this is assuming

631
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: romantic inclination? Have you flown to meet someone that you

632
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: had never met in person? Do I seem like a

633
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: rube to you? Yes, absolutely not, Dana, of course not. Well,

634
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't even let myself gift flown out. Now,

635
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: I can't say I've I've flown someone out. I have

636
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 1: flown some people out. I have flown some people out.

637
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying, like, like, I hear you data,

638
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: but I've flown some people out. Yes, I mean if

639
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't know you, then that's different, right, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you knew the girl? Okay, No, no, no no, no, the

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Speaker 1: two that I have flown out, I did not. I

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Speaker 1: can't say that I knew knew Oh oh no no yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah no. No, I talk about biblically knew because I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about I'm talking about biblically new. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know your family out, I don't

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Speaker 1: know where you live. I just I have flown out

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Speaker 1: women that we had not spent physical time with each other,

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Speaker 1: but we kind of knew each other. There was a

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Speaker 1: point of reference. You knew the name, knew the name,

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Speaker 1: and gosh, I can't tell this whole story. No. Look,

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Speaker 1: I will say from going to a new music seminar,

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Speaker 1: there was a young lady that I had met in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans and it was a very good meeting in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans, right, and I then had wanted to continue

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Speaker 1: that meeting and have more of that type of meeting

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Speaker 1: in new music seminars, and she was flown out for

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Speaker 1: that get out of my life. I met. I was

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. I was in New Orleans for music

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Speaker 1: convention and I met this woman. Nothing happened, but we

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Speaker 1: didn't meet each other, okay, yeah, and it was just

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Speaker 1: that night. Nothing happened. We had maybe in our conversation.

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Speaker 1: She was working for No Limit, I was working for

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Speaker 1: m I think Interscope Records at the time, Warner Brothers Records.

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Speaker 1: Then the week after that, I flew her out to

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and we met in San Francisco, and I

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Speaker 1: remember we met it for like my thirtieth birthday. Nice. Nice. No,

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Speaker 1: it did not end nice. I mean it was nice

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Speaker 1: at the time, at that time, it was the time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I remember, I was telling you about the the yes,

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Speaker 1: the connection, and I knew him and I have not

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Speaker 1: said Jacks go out to him ever again since you

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Speaker 1: told me how it went. Okay, so you know exactly

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Speaker 1: what tactly what you're talking about. Yes, I remember that

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Speaker 1: stay away from Creole Woman. A word to your mother

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Speaker 1: from New Orleans, is what you're saying. Yes, yes, no,

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Speaker 1: watch out. I had the one I flew out to

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Speaker 1: new music star Creole Woman, and it was it was wild.

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Speaker 1: And where was new music that year? It was in

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Speaker 1: maybe Oklahoma's somewhere somewhere wherever the Grand ol Opera is Nashville, Nashville.

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Speaker 1: So flew her out to Nashville. I flew were out

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Speaker 1: to Nashville too, out of my life. You know. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to say I'm sure that the same woman hit better,

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Speaker 1: not because it is real bad camf I Am six forty.

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