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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woom? And then and Tye, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Cuburbo boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrandt.

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Speaker 1: That fine gentleman over there as always heard of the Midwest,

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Speaker 1: still the incomparable Dan Rubstein, sir, welcome back to the pod.

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Speaker 3: How goes it, my friend? It goes especially well today?

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Speaker 3: Tye and I want to issue a disclaimer right at

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Speaker 3: the top. Our thoughts and prayers and condolences are to

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Speaker 3: everybody who has been affected by natural disasters geological disasters.

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Speaker 3: We don't mean to make light of the violence and

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Speaker 3: casualty that volcanoes have brought upon this world, but also

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Speaker 3: a good amount of beauty that volcano have brought to

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Speaker 3: that the world has been sort of carved out by

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Speaker 3: volcanic activity. We are stupid, silly people, and that is

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Speaker 3: why we are pursuing this direction for the show we

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Speaker 3: are Is that a good enough disclaimer?

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Speaker 2: Intro?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That was handed down by the Solid Verbal legal team. Daniel,

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Speaker 1: you delivered it masterfully.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Today's a very special episode. We've been building to this

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Speaker 3: We built a model volcano. You did, I did.

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Speaker 1: Collectively, you approved it, we built it. We put our

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Speaker 1: a sponsor could be age eight and up eighteen inch

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Speaker 1: high model volcano, and boy, did you clear that bar?

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Speaker 1: I cleared the bar. This thing is huge. It does

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Speaker 1: The official name for the volcano is something we are

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Speaker 1: College Football Tefra, if you will, thank you, Thank you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: however long this thing goes before it is melted by

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Speaker 1: the mouth of the volcano. Yeah, we're just going to

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna go back through the take, So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep track of all these dumb things we say

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're not dumb, Maybe they actually happen. That's why

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Speaker 1: they're hot takes.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna have to sort of discover which take

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Speaker 3: of course, as we all know and didn't just learn

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Speaker 3: So at some point is this that GEO.

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Speaker 1: Approved what you're telling me right now? Did you do

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Speaker 3: I looked at no fewer than like volcano like seven

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be the thickest, most gaseous flow

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Speaker 1: There was some internal discord over what we name this

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Speaker 3: If that means yeah, So what you're saying is sure.

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Speaker 3: Other podcasts, other college football podcasts add human hosts, human

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Speaker 3: You could listen to a podcast that breathlessly debates the

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Speaker 1: We have a science project.

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Speaker 3: I Mind Yourself, a college football podcast that takes content

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Speaker 1: I made a incredible mess put this thing together, and

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Speaker 1: hit follow, go out to verbelers dot com. We're going

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Speaker 1: Up, this is the dumbest thing we've ever done.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. So give me another sound please

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Speaker 2: Here comes the hava.

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Speaker 1: See save your So let's start with one of your

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Speaker 1: this take was extremely hot. I don't think unreasonable. We're

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I mean, Kansas State is not

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'm growing more with your takes, Doomed.

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Speaker 1: I've got Jalen Milroe will not finished the twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: of March, Dan, A lot of these takes are not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could be argue that most of my takes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the interest of feeding, just getting take

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind it.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Kaylen de Boor didn't recruit Jalen Milroe to Alabama.

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Speaker 3: So he has the opportunity to grow under Klin de

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, if Alabama's offense looks more like it

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Speaker 1: It's preposterous how long some of these guys have been

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Speaker 3: Okay. Tyler Shuck's career thus far clean up duty in

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Speaker 3: was at Indiana with his season ending injuries and has

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Speaker 3: this last final opportunity. But I thought we saw it

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Speaker 3: with Michael Pennox at Indiana. You know, we saw flashes

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Speaker 3: of it, like the game breaking ability, you know, in

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Speaker 3: the penn State game, the Ohio State game. I just

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Speaker 3: don't think we've seen it with Tyler Shuck in that

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Speaker 3: same way that we saw those flashes with Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the take, though.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate take. I like where he's coming from. I

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Speaker 1: am excited about the fact that we can start using

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Speaker 1: September pennis as a term on this show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, septenis Yeah, it's I'm good with a fast, interesting start.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's at the top of Louisville schedule.

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Speaker 3: Is there opportunity to sort of jump into the Heisman

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Speaker 3: frying pan early on?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the thing about Louisville schedule is it

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Speaker 1: starts off in a really really advantageous way, and it

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Speaker 1: is spread out, I think appropriately, so they don't have

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Speaker 1: any murderers rose or wounders rose as we tend to

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Speaker 1: talk about on this episode. Start out the year Austin

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Speaker 1: p Jacksonville State, a bye week, Georgia Tech, and then

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Speaker 1: on the road at Notre Dame. So end of September

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Speaker 1: you've got that road tilt at Notre Dame that will

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Speaker 1: obviously be primetime say it will be in the public

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Speaker 1: eye in some way, right, that'll be one of the

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Speaker 1: big matchups for that week. Middle to end of October

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Speaker 1: home game against Miami that is also what I would

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Speaker 1: estimate at this point in time, is going to be

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Speaker 1: a pretty big matchup. And then to start off the

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Speaker 1: month of November, they're on the road a Clemson, which

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Speaker 1: is also going to be a pretty big matchup. So

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Speaker 1: it's spread out in a really nice way. To close

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Speaker 1: out there obviously at Kentucky for the Governor's Cup, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not one of those deals for

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Speaker 1: Louisville where they're looking at this and they're going to

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Speaker 1: be playing just back to back to back bangers like Florida.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about with the Florida schedule. So it's set

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Speaker 1: up pretty well for them. Provided shuck and stay healthy

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Speaker 1: and they can get into an early rhythm, they're going

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Speaker 1: to have a pretty good case for a big time

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Speaker 1: matchup at the end of September on the road at

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. That could be a potential coming out party

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Speaker 1: for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not wrong. And look, you look at the

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Speaker 3: supposed powers in the ACC, and everybody seems vulnerable in

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Speaker 3: their own specific way. I'm ready for a re emergence

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Speaker 3: of the ACC as like a dangerous conference. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: think it's happening this year. All right, so here, let

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Speaker 3: me let's fire this up. Give me a sound, please

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Speaker 3: feed the takes.

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Speaker 1: We've got Connor, We've got Hoky Polky okay on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: To your point of the ACC being a more interesting conference,

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Speaker 1: I need to get rid of this smoke. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is gonna like give me black lung

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Speaker 1: or hot boxing.

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Speaker 3: With You're gonna they're gonna be a there's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a commercial that like, if you've been affected by the

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Speaker 3: National Geographic Paper mache volcano, you may be eligible. You

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Speaker 3: may be entitled to a serious cash reward.

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Speaker 1: This is a portable smoke machine that I paid thirty

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Speaker 1: two dollars on Amazon.

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Speaker 3: For and you're in an unventilated basement.

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Speaker 1: It's completely unventilated right now. Yeah, yeah, so this may

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Speaker 1: trigger the fire alarms. This is a Virginia Tech take

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Speaker 1: that I love. Connor says that Virginia Tech's playing for

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Speaker 1: the ACC title. Hoky Pulky says that Virginia Tech will

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Speaker 1: compete for a playoff spot. Kind of one in the

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Speaker 1: same hmm, kind of one in the same. Now before

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Speaker 1: you outright dismiss this take, it is definitely hot. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Connor, Thank you Polky. Out on Twitter, Virginia Tech

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Speaker 1: is currently number one in Bill Connolly's Returning Production Metric.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot coming back. The schedule We've talked

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Speaker 1: about the schedule on this show, right, the schedule is

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Speaker 1: quite advantageous for the Virginia Tech Hokies. Here is what

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Speaker 1: we are talking about. We are talking about a road

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Speaker 1: matchup end of September at Miami. That's their first I

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Speaker 1: guess projected to be ranked opponent. We're talking about a

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Speaker 1: matchup at home start of November against Clemson. Clemson will

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Speaker 1: also be ranked and then a bunch of teams in

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Speaker 1: between that don't necessarily scare you at Vandy home against

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Speaker 1: Marshall at Old Dominion home against Rutgers, at Stanford home

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Speaker 1: against Boston College home against Georgia Tech on the road

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Speaker 1: at Syracuse, on the road at Duke home against Virginia

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Speaker 1: for the Commonwealth Cup to close things out end of November. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, but I'm saying, that's a very advantageous schedule.

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Speaker 1: And provided provided they could get more out of the

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Speaker 1: offense and Karen Jrones, provided they can continue to sort

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Speaker 1: of do some good work on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, you could at least squint and make the

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Speaker 1: case that Virginia Tech is in the running for that.

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Speaker 3: You could, right, I think, so, I look, there's a

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Speaker 3: stretch on that Virginia Tech schedule. As you read it off,

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Speaker 3: I was like, so they've got Haines King, Kyle McCord,

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Speaker 3: Cade klub Nick, Malik Murphy. You could talk me into

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Speaker 3: those quarterbacks being full on, good, full on, really good,

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Speaker 3: full on up and down like that. That feels like

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Speaker 3: a pretty dangerous stretch.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I think Virginia Tech had a really good pass rush

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Speaker 3: last year, so hopefully that continues with their their returning production.

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Speaker 3: Don't have the exact names in front of me at

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Speaker 3: this moment, Virginia Tech's going to feel like a sexy

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Speaker 3: team to get on board with this year. With the

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Speaker 3: way that they came on the back half of last year,

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Speaker 3: I think it's too soon. I'd pump the breaks on

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Speaker 3: Virginia Tech a little bit, but I can appreciate the

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Speaker 3: enthusiasm given the momentum from last year and the Bowl game,

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Speaker 3: especially even as little as bowl games mean nowadays, I'm

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Speaker 3: into the enthusiasm. I'm into the fire with Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I just hesitate a little bit because I don't think

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Speaker 3: they have the depth. I don't think they have the

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Speaker 3: star power at the moment when they lose their starting

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Speaker 3: tight end, like they lost some pieces still that were

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Speaker 3: meaningful to Kyroen Drones's development last year. So I'd pump

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Speaker 3: the breaks on Virginia Tech if I'm looking at this pragmatically,

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Speaker 3: but if I'm looking at this through the VEI lens

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Speaker 3: tie the volcanic Explosivity Index, yeah I'm two or three here,

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: How about this one from Tyler on Vermillas dot Com

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Speaker 1: this one's got some flames coming off. Give me a sound, please.

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Speaker 3: I don't know which ones I've played. Let's go with.

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Speaker 2: This one.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one for this I played it.

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Speaker 3: We played it like at least three times. Continue.

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Speaker 1: I'm losing track. Yeah, but take a toea, take a

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Speaker 1: toe is keeping track? Tyler on for Ballers dot Com

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Speaker 1: says chip Kelly. Chip Kelly will be the interim head

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Speaker 1: coach for Ohio I.

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Speaker 3: Love this one. This is this is a four point

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Speaker 3: two in terms of the ve I Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Completed the assignment and passed with flying colors. So the

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Speaker 1: the implication here is that something goes south for Ryan

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Speaker 1: Day and therefore chip Kelly will be the interim coach

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Speaker 1: going into Ohio State's bowl game. Is it fair to

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Speaker 1: assume that, based on this take, he is also saying

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Speaker 1: that Ohio State misses out on the playoff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If he's simply saying bowl and not playoff, yes, that

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Speaker 1: is a fiery take. So let's let's talk through what

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Speaker 1: this would actually look like in reality. Because Ohio State

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Speaker 1: has been loading up right. The narrative has been Ohio

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Speaker 1: State's quote unquote going for it right this year in

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Speaker 1: order for Ohio State to fall short of whatever it

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Speaker 1: is going for you have to assume they lose to

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Speaker 1: Oregon middle of October. That's a road tilt. Have to

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Speaker 1: assume they probably lose to Michigan or Penn State. Those

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Speaker 1: games are a little bit later in the year, in

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Speaker 1: the month of November, right, and there's probably, you know,

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Speaker 1: a third loss in there somewhere. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's coming at home against Iowa. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's coming on the road at Michigan State. My problem

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Speaker 1: with this take could be at home against Nebraska. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Dylan ll say that's a sandwich game, right, that's a letdown.

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Speaker 1: Look ahead a little bit. There's a bye week in

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Speaker 1: there as well. There's there's after Oregon, there's a bye

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Speaker 1: week before Nebraska, and then Nebraska comes before Penn State. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you have to really twist yourself in knots here

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Speaker 1: to find where three or four losses are coming from

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Speaker 1: on the Ohio State side of things. That is essentially

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Speaker 1: what Tyler is saying with this take, that it bottoms out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're injuries. Maybe you know, I have a really

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Speaker 1: hard time getting myself to the point where I can

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Speaker 1: believe this but as hot takes go, Tyler, my name's sake,

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Speaker 1: beautiful job here with this beautiful job, take a time.

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Speaker 1: It would satiated by this.

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Speaker 3: I think it would have to be a fourth loss.

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Speaker 3: Not that Ryan Day won't be fired. I don't know. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: you pour that much money into an NIL program to

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Speaker 3: bring back star power and to add star power in

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Speaker 3: the portal via you know, Caleb Downs and quinch On

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Speaker 3: Judkins and Will Howard. It's going to have to be

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Speaker 3: something that's legit embarrassing for not for Ryan Day to

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Speaker 3: be fired once again, but that quickly. I suppose that

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Speaker 3: it's before a bowl game, but you might as well

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Speaker 3: get a jump on it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: If you're bringing in Chip Kelly as offensive coordinator, he

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Speaker 3: certainly has the chops to be an interim head coach

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Speaker 3: place maybe at Northwestern if they're playing that game in

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Speaker 3: a weird like they're playing at Glenbrook North High School

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Speaker 3: and it's another one of those remember when we had

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Speaker 3: like the hey, it's seventy mile an hour wins for c. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud as he goes five of seventeen. You could have

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Speaker 3: one of those games you lose Northwestern on a weird

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Speaker 3: field on top of losing to what Oregon and Michigan

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Speaker 3: and Penn State. Yeah, that could spell doom for the

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Speaker 3: Ryan Day era, I suppose, but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: they get destroyed by a non Harbaugh Michigan team, like

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Speaker 3: it would be very odd to see an eleven and

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Speaker 3: one coach fired before the bowl game. They'd be in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs at eleven and one, so bro House State

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Speaker 3: to not be in the playoff, you're probably losing three

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Speaker 3: and I could see that being deeply embarrassing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think it's a two point eight on the VEI if

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Speaker 3: you lose three.

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Speaker 1: Games, if you're Ryan Day and the third is Michigan

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Speaker 1: again for another their year, it's not that far fetched.

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Speaker 1: You could see it. Maybe he leaves on his own

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Speaker 1: accord at that point for what, I don't know, an

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Speaker 1: NFL coordinator position, something.

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Speaker 3: Just to get out he has a down year. Oh

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Speaker 3: and oh coordinator position. Okay, all right, seems to.

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Speaker 1: Be all the rage. Here's one oh more takes why

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Speaker 1: and births. This one comes to us from Colin out

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't know if it's an eight on

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Speaker 1: your scale, but I like this. I like this heat,

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Speaker 1: Colin says South Florida will make the College Football Playoff

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 3: I like this a good amount.

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Speaker 1: So here here's the deal. This is more smart and

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Speaker 1: early than scalding hot. Yeah, but this is it's early

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Speaker 1: enough that it feels hot and it's okay. It's also

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Speaker 1: hot because they played Bama on the road like second

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Speaker 1: week of the year. Remember, like the South Florida game

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Speaker 1: for Alabama. Oh, I forgot to turn the volcano one

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Speaker 1: for that one. Please put that on. Sorry's smoke, sorry, Colin,

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Speaker 1: how's my bad? Here's like the South Florida game for

655
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Speaker 1: Bama last year was a pivotal moment. Remember, Yeah, they decided,

656
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Speaker 1: all right, we're not starting Jalen Milroe. We're gonna give

657
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna give Tyler Buckner and ty Simpson a chance. We'll

658
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Speaker 1: see how that goes. And we know how that went right,

659
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Speaker 1: We know full well how that went. But that kind

660
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Speaker 1: of gave birth to this new version of I have

661
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Speaker 1: to get rid of the smoke. It just comes right

662
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Speaker 1: back at me. Yeah, this gave birth to this new

663
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Speaker 1: version of Jalen Milroe that we have seen since then,

664
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Speaker 1: in kind of this retooled offense that played more into

665
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I think what he is good at. But South Florida

666
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Speaker 1: is an interesting team. They've not only got that Bama

667
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Speaker 1: game on the road early part of September, they're also

668
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Speaker 1: home versus Miami end of September. Right, so they've got

669
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Speaker 1: two very interesting, high level non conference opponents in the

670
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Speaker 1: month of September. They've got a quarterback who I think

671
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: is really exciting, Byron Brown. I threw for over three

672
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: thousand yards last season, ran for close to one thousand

673
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: yards in the regular season, had eleven touchdowns. So a

674
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Speaker 1: dual purpose guy, somebody who can go out there and

675
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Speaker 1: obviously take this offense to a really exciting place. They

676
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: need to get better on offense. They need to get

677
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Speaker 1: a lot better on defense. I think to warrant them

678
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Speaker 1: being a playoff team. But there's a case to be

679
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Speaker 1: made that, Okay, they beat one of those two teams

680
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Speaker 1: in the non conference, most likely Miami. I don't think

681
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: they're beating Bama, but who knows. Who knows what version

682
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Speaker 1: of Bama will see early.

683
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Speaker 3: I mean it's like a Boise State or recent Cincinnati

684
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Speaker 3: type scheduling situation. Even more so than Cincinnati. I think

685
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati is what notre Dame in Indiana.

686
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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: When they went to the playoffs, that's right. So this

688
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Speaker 3: is Alabama Miami, which Miami is int Miami, but still

689
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Speaker 3: compared to the rest still schedule and against it's Alabama

690
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Speaker 3: Miami Tulane Memphis in the first half of the schedule.

691
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Speaker 3: Consider just consider this about the take here from Colin, Okay.

692
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Speaker 3: The way that the playoff is situated, there is going

693
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Speaker 3: to be a non Power four team in the playoff.

694
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Speaker 3: It is written into the bylaws of the damn system.

695
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Speaker 3: There are twelve teams that get in. Whoever, this team

696
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 3: is from the non power four I guess we still

697
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: call it group of five, Group of said, I don't

698
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Speaker 3: even know what.

699
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Speaker 1: The hell it's called anymore. It doesn't matter. Yeah, but

700
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Speaker 1: it is the highest ranked in All Likelihood Conference champion

701
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Speaker 1: m HM. And so you can lose, You could lose

702
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: both of these games, frankly, yeah, and still find your

703
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Speaker 1: way into the playoff.

704
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Speaker 3: Depends. I mean, look, if the Mountain West champion is

705
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: eleven and one, they're probably going to be ranked higher.

706
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Speaker 3: It depends what South Florida looks like against the American

707
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: I guess, and what they look like against Alabamami if

708
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: they take it to the gun or something. But it's

709
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Speaker 3: still tough. It's tough if they get blown out in

710
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Speaker 3: But here's.

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Speaker 1: The thing here, and the reason that I like this

712
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Speaker 1: is because they've got a lot coming back seventeenth and

713
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Speaker 1: returning production.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

715
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Speaker 1: They've got two teams on the schedule early. If they

716
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Speaker 1: knock one of them off, clearly they're going to get

717
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Speaker 1: a fair amount of acclaim in the polls. And they're

718
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Speaker 1: in one of the better non power conferences in the

719
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Speaker 1: American right, Tulane has been making its hay in the

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Speaker 1: year one.

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Speaker 3: Coach John sumrall, Yeah, you're.

722
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Speaker 1: One coach like I think they're in a good spot

723
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Speaker 1: to actually make this come true. And we know that

724
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Speaker 1: they are committed to try and pour more into their

725
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Speaker 1: football program. We talked about their stadium out there, you know,

726
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: floating bonds to do the stadium because they feel it's important.

727
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Speaker 1: So they want to be in the playoff like most

728
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Speaker 1: teams do. But it seems like there is a real

729
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: commitment to get there. Uh, if not this year, before long,

730
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Speaker 1: they've got an exciting quarterback prospect. Just need to improve

731
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Speaker 1: the defense. Colina, like the fire on this take.

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Speaker 3: So there's also in just in terms, if you compare

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Speaker 3: where South Florida is right now to the rest of

734
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Speaker 3: the recent powers, either in the Mountain West or the

735
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Speaker 3: American or the Sun Belt or wherever, there's a lot

736
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Speaker 3: of change. Right James Madison loses its coach, San Diego

737
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 3: State is starting over with a new coach, Boise State

738
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Speaker 3: is starting over with a new coach. Tulane is starting

739
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Speaker 3: over with a new coach. So there is something that's

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Speaker 3: sort of up in the air. And then you obviously

741
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Speaker 3: add the have the Big twelve, adding Cincinnati and BYU

742
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Speaker 3: and UCF and Houston like, so what constitutes a G

743
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Speaker 3: five power has changed. What the top of that universe

744
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: looks like has changed. Where there's not somebody that's it

745
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: seems equally loaded with high level expectations. Whatever you believe

746
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Speaker 3: about you know whoever in the Mountain West, about air Force,

747
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 3: about you know, San Jose State starting over, San Diego

748
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Speaker 3: States starting over, Fresno State kind of but not really

749
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Speaker 3: changing things. Going back to Ted for dealing with hell

750
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: stuff Like, there's a lot that is just able to

751
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Speaker 3: be taken at the top of the G five ranks

752
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Speaker 3: right now. So why not South Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm growing more with your.

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Speaker 1: Takes college sports tonight via verballers dot com. That's our

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Speaker 1: Patreon ad free episodes, bonus content, early access to this episode,

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Speaker 1: all the ones that we put out throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: This has a considerable amount of heat coming off it.

758
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Speaker 1: I don't want to read it right away, but this

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Speaker 1: is another gentleman or gentlewoman who passed the assignment. Colorado

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Speaker 1: will start oh and three despite all the bravado around

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Speaker 1: the program, Colorado will start oh and three. Now, we

762
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Speaker 1: talked about Colorado a couple episodes ago, and I think

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Speaker 1: the takeaway from our standpoint, the takeaway was they need

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Speaker 1: to get through the early part of the schedule because

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Speaker 1: it gets harder longer they go, It gets harder moving

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Speaker 1: into a new conference. Maybe that's good, maybe that's not.

767
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Speaker 1: We can bait the marriage to that at some point.

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Speaker 1: Colorado's first three games are North Dakota State. It's not

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Speaker 1: a bad program.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I knew at North Dakota State continue, but the

771
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Speaker 3: pedigree is there at Nebraska, which is number three in

772
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Speaker 3: returning production.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska is a big unknown right now. We had a

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Speaker 1: bunch of takes that came in for Nebraska. Frankly, that's one,

775
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Speaker 1: and then the third is at Colorado State. Remember that

776
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Speaker 1: game from a year ago. Of course, over time, we're

777
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: all up late. We were doing a live show while game.

778
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: Lunter gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Grevis Hunter gets hurt. Right, So there there is

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Speaker 1: a world in which this experiment at Colorado, despite the

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Speaker 1: fact they have clearly some exciting, pro caliber talent on

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Speaker 1: that roster, there is a world in which the line

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Speaker 1: doesn't get better, the defense doesn't get better. North Dakota

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Speaker 1: State plays a good game, goes on the road to Boulder,

785
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Speaker 1: pulls off an upset Arrasca at home, new quarterback, a

786
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: lot of excitement around that program. Hopefully they are better,

787
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Speaker 1: they knock off Colorado, and then Colorado State gets even.

788
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Speaker 1: There is a world of which that is possible. But

789
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Speaker 1: an zero and three Colorado start is about as hot

790
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: as we can get. I think here in early March, it.

791
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Speaker 3: Feels like it's wish casting, though a little feels like

792
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 3: it was it was issued by somebody who just doesn't

793
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Speaker 3: like Deon Sanders. Because North Dakota State's dynasty is over right.

794
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Speaker 3: South Dakota State has won the last two FCS championships.

795
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Speaker 3: Northakota State's head coach left after I think the quarterfinal matchup,

796
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Matt Enz to become the new linebackers coach, maybe an

797
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: associate head coach or something for USC a linkin Riley, yep.

798
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: Secondary took a step back last year from North Dakota State,

799
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: so they hire a new head coach. But he has

800
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Speaker 3: a ton of experience in Fargo. He was most recently,

801
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: I think the Wyoming offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, So

802
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: there is some new. It's not like this is a machine,

803
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: you know with you know, Barnes storming and having its

804
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: next stop in Boulder. This is not a North Dakota

805
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: State machine at least right now. So to say that like,

806
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: oh it's North Dakota State, like, well, I think they

807
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: lost to all of the Dakota's last year, right, They

808
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: avenged one of those losses late, but I think they

809
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Speaker 3: lost to North Dakota South Dakota State in South Dakota,

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Speaker 3: so take that off the table at least for now.

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Speaker 3: Colorado State is not as talented as Colorado. The level

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Speaker 3: of having Shador Sanders throwing to Travis Hunter is unmatched.

813
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: We'll see if the defense improves. They make a change

814
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Speaker 3: at defensive coordinator. There's a lot of new coaches in Boulder, Nebraska. Wise,

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Speaker 3: where's this game this year?

816
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Speaker 1: The game is at Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: It's at Nebraska. It's still a true freshman quarterback for Nebraska.

818
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 3: It's still a Colorado team that was able to generate

819
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: a bunch of turnovers. Get to Jeff Simms. Last year,

820
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: I don't have no idea why anybody would think the

821
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Speaker 3: Nebraska offensive line is going to be dramatically better.

822
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Speaker 2: Now.

823
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: Maybe Colorado doesn't have the front to change that up,

824
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: but Colorado's adding dudes, and so yes, you can argue

825
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: that the TCU win was at least partially due to

826
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Speaker 3: TCU having no tape for Game one on what Deon

827
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: Sanders and the Sean Lewis offense we're going to do

828
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: last year. But I think it's kind of weird to

829
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Speaker 3: think about Colorado being worse in year two. Like, if

830
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Speaker 3: you're going to think about this sensically, they're going to

831
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Speaker 3: be better with a full off season. You know, Deon

832
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: knowing what kinds of players he wants to target to

833
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: improve this team. So yes, Matt Rule is a better

834
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Speaker 3: college football coach than Deon Sanders. He has proven a

835
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: lot more. You're starting an offensive line that was terrible

836
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: last week, and here's the freshman quarterback and they're going

837
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Speaker 3: to be better immediately.

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Speaker 1: I want to do it. Ask that because we did

839
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Speaker 1: get a question from social media from someone who is

840
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Speaker 1: who was wondering about that line comment that we made

841
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Speaker 1: when we talk about Nebraska's offensive line. The numbers that

842
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Speaker 1: we are honing in on one hundred and twenty third

843
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Speaker 1: nationally in sacks per drop back. Yeah, they allowed pressure

844
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Speaker 1: on thirty six point five percent of their dropbacks. Pressure

845
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Speaker 1: rate ninety third in the nation.

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Speaker 3: Which is not always on the line, right, quarterbacks was

847
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: a line the ball too long? Yeah, Yeah, receivers can't

848
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: get open, they're not always.

849
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Speaker 1: On the line. Their standard down sack rate was one

850
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: hundred and thirtieth in the nation. Again, some of that

851
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: could be due to quarterback. Yeah, But then you look

852
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: at things like offensive line stats, the offensive line. If

853
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Speaker 1: you're just grading the offensive line one hundred and third nationally,

854
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: pressure is allowed.

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Speaker 3: I mean you could just watch the games too to

856
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: see that this is not a good line.

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Speaker 1: All of the line stats that we track would indicate

858
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Speaker 1: that Nebraska's offensive line wasn't good. I don't think it's

859
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: all on the line, but certainly those numbers don't do

860
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: them any favors, and it is an area they need

861
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Speaker 1: to improve.

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Speaker 3: It's the new quarterbacks, uncle, who's running the offensive line's well,

863
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: that's right, all right, we got time for a couple

864
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Speaker 3: more here, Are there any right you want to grab

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Speaker 3: off of this list?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm growing more with your takes.

867
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Speaker 3: The ACC won't exist by the end of the twenty

868
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Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty twenty five season. For Max on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: this this is like an eight, right, this is this

870
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: is a six and a half. Yeah, this is this

871
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: is a because we know the intention is there for

872
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: teams to leave the ACC, and we already kind of

873
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: understand that it's a thrown together mess of a conference

874
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: in this moment by adding West Coast and Texas, a

875
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: Texas team and two teams from the Bay Area, so

876
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: it's not on stable footing in terms of enthusiasm by

877
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: some of its current members. But at the same time,

878
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: they're locked into a TV deal for a considerable amount

879
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: of time that seems pretty ironclad.

880
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: It seems pretty young. I don't see the ACC bottoming

881
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: out by the end of this year. I can see

882
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: a world in which I could see a world in

883
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: which we talk about Florida State not being part of

884
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: the ACC. And I think Florida State leaving the ACC

885
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: portends the future demise of the conference. Sure, I do

886
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: think it'll be more of a slow rolling type of thing.

887
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 1: And I think I've really been focused on Florida State

888
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: for a while with respect to conference re alignment because

889
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: we had talked to Brett McMurphy a year ago and

890
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: he gave us some inkling that perhaps the Oregon Washington

891
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: thing was coming right. All they were waiting for was

892
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: that invite from the Big Ten and it was going

893
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: to happen, and lo and behold it did. But I

894
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: have really been focused on Florida State because I think

895
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Florida State signals what could be a larger domino effect

896
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: in college football. Because what happens if Florida State leaves

897
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: the ACC, If they figure out some way to tunnel

898
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: under or hop over this grant of rights thing, and

899
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: we know right now it's going to the courts, there

900
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: is a world in which other schools look at that

901
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: and say, well, we don't want to be here either. Now,

902
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: maybe they don't pay the penalty up front because it's

903
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. And that's

904
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: its own bit of calculus to figure out how to

905
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: acquire that much money, dead money that you're going to

906
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: pay in. But what else does it mean, Well, it

907
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: means Notre Dame is probably not going to join the

908
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: ACC long term. It means Notre Dame's looking at the ACC.

909
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of their hail Mary, hoping that

910
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: they can entice Notre Dame to join the conference and

911
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: therefore legitimize it. I don't think that's going to happen.

912
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame is content where it's at. But

913
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: if Florida State leaves, because Flora State perceives there is

914
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: more money out there to be had, either by joining

915
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, the SEC or through some private equity

916
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: world staying independent, that signals to Notre Dame you don't

917
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: want to join the ACC. Maybe it makes more sense

918
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: to pursue your your big paycheck that you know is

919
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: waiting for you. If and when you decide the Big

920
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: ten right, that also signals to other schools that are

921
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: in the ACC that it's time to start looking for

922
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: the exits is time for Clemson another athletic the program

923
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: that's pretty rich. I don't know if Clemson's got quite

924
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: the national footprint that some of these other conferences would

925
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: want in terms of, you know, trying to add on

926
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: TV revenue and that type of thing. But Clemson's got

927
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money in their athletic department, one of

928
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: the richest out there. Maybe they start looking for the exits.

929
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Maybe other schools like North Carolina. We know North Carolina

930
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: has been sought after.

931
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: North Carolina Virginia, right, And there's all sorts of like

932
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: states putting in by laws about who can vote and

933
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: not vote, and so it can prevent things from happening.

934
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just I think there is something of

935
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: a domino effect that happens if Florida State really any

936
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: of these teams, but I think Florida State is the

937
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: one that's been most outspoken about it. If they can

938
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get out of this thing,

939
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's by the end of twenty four

940
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: to twenty five, right to Max's point, but I do

941
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: think that it could set into motion more of a

942
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: slow collapse that we see go down over the next

943
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: three four years.

944
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's pretty secure. I think the ACC

945
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: is pretty secure. So this is a looking into the future,

946
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 3: pretty seismic take, because there's still the tonnage of teams

947
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 3: in the ACC that would stay you know, banned together,

948
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: that would band together here with you know, it's you

949
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: know a lot of people look at this conference as

950
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: having a strength of basketball, and obviously the college basketball

951
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: universe has changed, but you're still talking about Duke in

952
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 3: Virginia and Louisville and Syracuse and like Wake Forest, NC State,

953
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: all Georgia Tech, like a lot of these places care

954
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: deeply about sort of remaining in the same conference together

955
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: and associating with one another. And so it's still a

956
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: much much bigger deal than like the American or the

957
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: Mountain West or the Sun Belt or anything like that.

958
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: So it would still be the ACC and maybe what

959
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: it gets in terms of automatic qualifying for how many

960
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: automatic teams it gets into the playoff or whatever the

961
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: considerations are for the conference's reputation. I still think you

962
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: have to considered a power conference. I don't see it happening.

963
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: It would have to take something in the way of

964
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: like something in the way of the Big Ten in

965
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: the SEC bundling so much more aggressively, more quickly than

966
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: they have recently. I just don't see it. And you

967
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: have a number of attractive teams, as you mentioned right, Clemson,

968
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: Florida State, North Carolina. I just don't see it, man, I.

969
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: Mean, North Carolina is another one of those lynchpin teams

970
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: that I think is sought after by both the Big

971
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: Ten and the SEC. I don't think North Carolina has

972
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: got the scratch to pay to get out of this thing,

973
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know if there's a desire from their

974
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: standpoint to do so either. But they're another school to

975
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: watch if things really start to go sideways in the ACC.

976
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: North Carolina is one of those teams to watch, as

977
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: is Virginia Virginia Tech. It's long been assumed that those

978
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: two would sort of be handcuffed together and go into

979
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: a new conference whatever that is, as a unit. I

980
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. We saw obviously Oregon Oregon

981
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: State didn't really.

982
00:51:59,640 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: Go that way.

983
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: Washington Washington State, am But uh, I appreciate this take, Max,

984
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: I really do. We've got a couple more here.

985
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: What do you have?

986
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: I've got this one from Georgia is a verb out

987
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: on verbalers dot Com. Yeah, Billy Napier's tenure post UCF

988
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: game lo was wish casting.

989
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: The wish casting takes are hot out.

990
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: There will be measured in hours not days.

991
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Steed takes.

992
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: So here is what Georgia is a verb what a

993
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: name is referring to when he references the post UCF

994
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: Florida schedule. Florida starts at season with Miami, Samford, Texas

995
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: A and m at Mississippi State and then a bye

996
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: after that, buye. They've got UCF at home in the Swamp.

997
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: After the UCF game, though, this is where we've been

998
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: talking a lot about Florida's schedule at Tennessee home against Kentucky.

999
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: Another bye, and then they go into their murderers row

1000
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: throughout the month of November. Georgia game in Jacksonville, right

1001
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: neutral cider at Texas home against LSU. It's brutal. It's

1002
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: brutal home against Ole Miss close out the year on

1003
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: the road at Florida State. So basically, Florida's got to

1004
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: win out in that early part of its schedule if

1005
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: they want to make a bowl game, like they need

1006
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: to beat a team like a Miami. They need to

1007
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: beat a team like a Texas A and M which

1008
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: is kind of rebuilding a little bit. They need to

1009
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: beat UCF if they want to go to a Bowlgein

1010
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: UCF is maybe that key game on the entire schedule,

1011
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: even to get to six and six. The argument here

1012
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: is basically that they're losing UCF. You'd have to lose

1013
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: the UCF and they'd probably have to lose another game

1014
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: before you get to UCF. That would cause Florida to

1015
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: kick out Billy Napier and put itself back on the

1016
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: market midway into the season. This one is a hot take.

1017
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: This one is a very reasonable take given the state

1018
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: of affairs at Florida right now. Yeah.

1019
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he was on the hot seat going

1020
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: into December. It's not that hot a take. It's not

1021
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 3: that hot to take that, though. It is spicy. It's spicy.

1022
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: I put it into the volcano take A TOA is

1023
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: interested in this take, is feeding on this take, because no,

1024
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: it's not a hot take that Billy Napier would be fired.

1025
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: The specificity, though, yeah, I like that. The specificity that

1026
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: on October the sixth, the day after UCF comes to

1027
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: Florida potentially beats Florida knocks them off, probably throws them

1028
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: for a loop if they knock them off. Yeah, that

1029
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: that's when it would happen midway into the season. Yeah.

1030
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: Look, the momentum isn't great. Look at where the recruiting

1031
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: class was, and then there were some decommitments ahead of

1032
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: signing day, but Florida's still secured DJ Lagway, who was

1033
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: considered me that I think the best quarterback in the

1034
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four class, like a National Player of the

1035
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Year type talent. So he has looked at as the

1036
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: next big thing in the sport at quarterback. And so

1037
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 3: you part ways with Billy Napier, And look, you always

1038
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 3: make the right move because long term it makes the

1039
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: most sense and you can't worry about who is or

1040
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: is not going to stay. But he's a pretty major

1041
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: domino if you make that move. So we'll see how

1042
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: trigger happy Florida will be midyear. And look at people

1043
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 3: behind the scenes at Florida have already started vetting people

1044
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: knowing that this is a possibility to take over for

1045
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: Billy Napier. But you run the risk of really driving

1046
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: the program into the ground when you make a mid

1047
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 3: season move. So yeah, it would have to be so

1048
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 3: absolutely necessary and have to be such an embarrassing loss

1049
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: to UCF. That yeah, especially given like the internal Florida

1050
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: politics with these with the in state schools and UCF

1051
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 3: saying Florida was scared to play and then Florida agrees to.

1052
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: I think it's a two to one, right, Florida gets

1053
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: two home games in this series to UCF's one.

1054
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: That it would be.

1055
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: Terribly embarrassing for Florida to sort of big time this situation,

1056
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: the scheduling situation, and then lose at home in Gainesville.

1057
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's three three point two in

1058
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 3: terms of VEI.

1059
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, final take here, Dan, I've got.

1060
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 3: A bonus take, by the way, that I think is

1061
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: like a four to eight.

1062
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Continue this one from Rev Millie OKC. Ok see a

1063
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: bit of a hint here. Okay, this is out on

1064
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: for Bowlers dot Com. That's I am fanning away this

1065
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: smoke whatever this compound is the Oklahoma Sooners a goal

1066
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: eleven and one LSU on the road is going to

1067
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: be their only loss. They will play Georgia in the

1068
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: SEC title game.

1069
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Georgia. That is a hot ink.

1070
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: I think it warm.

1071
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: I think it's like a bubbling jacuzzie of a take

1072
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: that was recruited really well. I know it's a new conference.

1073
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: Expectation is not to immediately you know, thrash teams.

1074
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: New quarterback. Defense did improve last year. That was good.

1075
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: Defense improved. But Tennessee schedule, Yeah, Tennessee's on the schedule.

1076
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: Auburn on the road. Who knows what version of Auburn

1077
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: will see Texas the neutral site game of course, Texas

1078
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: State Fair on the road, at Old Miss on the road,

1079
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: at Missoo, Alabama, LSU the aforementioned LSU game. There's a

1080
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: lot of heavy artillery on the schedule. Man, Yeah, this

1081
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: feels very hot to me. It feels very hot to me.

1082
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: The reason why it feels hot is because the take

1083
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: was just like Oklahoma goes eleven and one loses to

1084
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Speaker 3: LSU but ends up playing Georgia. But there's no whoever

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Speaker 3: submitted this didn't show their work, Like they didn't say

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Speaker 3: the defense is going to be much improved because of this.

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Speaker 3: I think Miszoo's overrated because of this. I think Ole

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Speaker 3: Miss is overrated or gettable because of this. But they

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Speaker 3: didn't show their work.

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Speaker 1: See I think I think The hot take for this

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Speaker 1: is that Oklahoma goes seven and five against this.

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Speaker 3: Schedule, they take a step back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we talked about it on a on a

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Speaker 1: previous episode as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the things that Oklahoma, one of the

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Speaker 1: narratives that Oklahoma I think is going to be playing

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Speaker 1: against the season is some within you know, the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: some maybe within the own fan base, their own fan base,

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Speaker 1: that say, ah, maybe this was a mistake, Maybe this

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Speaker 1: was a mistake. The schedule is going to get considerably harder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the path is more difficult.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So do we want to include this and take

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Speaker 1: a tow or do we want to pull this one out?

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Speaker 3: I would pull it out. I have one for you

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Speaker 3: on similar grounds though, in terms of a team taking

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Speaker 3: a step back in a new car.

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Speaker 2: Right, Rev.

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Speaker 1: Millie, thank you for submitting that. Yes, Takeotoa has ejected

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Speaker 1: her put some smoke on there. Take Atoa has ejected

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Speaker 1: this take. But if you show your work and come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll reconsider this at some point in the future. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you ready, Yeah, give it to.

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Speaker 2: Me, play me a sound more takes?

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Speaker 3: Why births USC is missing a bowl game this year?

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Speaker 1: A bowl missing Bowl game. Oh boy, okay, okay, so right.

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Speaker 3: The reason USC has succeeded these past couple of years

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Speaker 3: has been the offense, namely having the most talented quarterback

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Speaker 3: in the country, the biggest, the biggest time playmaker in

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. Whatever you feel about Miller Moss, whatever you

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Speaker 3: feel about Jade Mayava, it's going to be a drop off.

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Speaker 3: Even if one of them is successful, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a drop off. I think the offensive line has

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Speaker 3: gotten worse. I think star power at running back with

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Speaker 3: now no Marshaw Lloyd off to the draft has got

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Speaker 3: and worse. Receiver has gotten worse since it was that

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Speaker 3: pair of what Mario Williams and Jordan Addison. Mario Williams

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Speaker 3: is now it's a Tulane. I know he left, and

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Speaker 3: he's recruited well, Lincoln Riley's recruited well. Receiver somewhat, but

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Speaker 3: still like you're gonna count on what Zachariah Branch sort

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Speaker 3: of an undersized slot type guy to be a game changer. Defensively,

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Speaker 3: they haven't recruited well. They didn't add a ton in

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Speaker 3: terms of top tier talent in the front seven in

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Speaker 3: the portal. The secondary has been a huge issue. I

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Speaker 3: know that they've tried to upgrade the coaching staff when

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Speaker 3: it's Eric Henderson from the Rams and matt EN's from

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 3: North Dakota State, Like they've put money into the coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: But as they enter into the Big Ten and you

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Speaker 3: look at this specific schedule LSU and Michigan, I think.

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Speaker 1: Early on LSU neutral Psyche game in Vegas to open

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Speaker 1: up the year, that's a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: At Michigan Week four, they've also got home game against Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: They're home against Penn State. They're on the road at Washington.

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Speaker 1: They're home against Nebraska late in the year, who knows,

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Speaker 1: on the road at UCLA. Close out the year at

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Speaker 1: home against Notre Dame. There are losses. There are multiple

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Speaker 1: losses on this schedule. If if what you're saying is

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Speaker 1: to be believed, I don't know. I feel like a

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Speaker 1: broken record. We've been saying this the last couple of seasons, like, ah,

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Speaker 1: they got to get better on defense, You got to

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01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: get better on defense. They are out, they hire Dan Lynn,

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Speaker 1: they got to get better on defense. Any dudes, but

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Speaker 1: you do need dudes. You do need dudes, and you

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01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: need dudes that are on the field, not coaching the

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Speaker 1: guys on the field.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: They have Bear Alexander, who's really good. That's kind of it.

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Speaker 3: Like they bring in some and you know, I think

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Speaker 3: they bring in a corner from Mississippi State, maybe a

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Speaker 3: running back from Mississippi State. Like they're sort of adding

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Speaker 3: guys here and there. But I don't see it. Penn State, Maryland, Nebraska,

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Speaker 3: Nebraska's defense, UCLA, Notre Dame was I think will be

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01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 3: an improved Wisconsin early Michigan LSC. I think this team

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Speaker 3: has it in them to go five and seven.

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Speaker 1: We had somebody who write in, who wrote in and

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Speaker 1: said that Wisconsin is going to win the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: I think that Phil Longo is going to get the

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: most out of Tyler Van Dyke and that it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a renaissance.

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Speaker 3: And he's gonna what get the South Carolina job or

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Speaker 3: something after the year. I think that was the take.

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Speaker 1: That was a good take. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's on the table for USC to

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Speaker 3: go five and seven. Look how they finished their year

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Speaker 3: last year. What is it about the USC experience right

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Speaker 3: now other than what Lincoln Riley did years ago at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: I have no doubt in my mind Lincoln Riley can

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Speaker 3: make quarterbacks better and generate big plays on offense. But

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Speaker 3: even like the receivers last year for USC, like TODJ. Williams, Brennan,

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Speaker 3: Rice Gone by the way, like, I just think they

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01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: keep taking steps back without appreciable steps forward to counterbalance,

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: and so as they enter into the Big ten, I

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01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: think it's just gonna have more losable games with less.

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Speaker 1: Firepower, more losable games with less firepower. I love it, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I think that does it for Take A Toa. At

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Speaker 1: least this episode featuring take A Toa. I believe take

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01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: a TOAs smoke burnt out my light here that I

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: had that was illuminating Take a Toa. I heard a

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01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: weird buzzing sound and then it went off. So that's

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Speaker 1: something we'll see if it does the sound of my lungs.

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Speaker 1: But take a toe of yes, yes, steeds, take a

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01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: toa is burning hot. Take a Toa will be with

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Speaker 1: us throughout the course of the season. We had somebody

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Speaker 1: else send it in a take please go outside and

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01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: air out your lungs. Tie, this is not good for

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01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: my lungs. Take a Toe has been fun though, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, appreciate everybody sending in their takes solid verbal

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. If you want to get yours in,

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Speaker 1: we will do this periodically. Take a Toe will be

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: featured as part of our set here. We just need

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Speaker 1: to figure out where we can fit it. Frankly, it

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Speaker 1: does not fit right now, so we're we'll work our

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Speaker 1: way up to this. This whole thing was sort of

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Speaker 1: thrown together, but I've appreciated building this new reality with you,

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 3: Of course, this is the first enter it into our

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Speaker 3: ring of fire, right, that's right, the Pacific rim going

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Speaker 3: up and down the Pacific Ocean. Yeah, this is the

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Speaker 3: first part of it, and we'll continue to add. We

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Speaker 3: had somebody send in take that somebody else is going

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Speaker 3: to copy the volcano. It's hard to copy the volcano

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Speaker 3: at this point. We had somebody else send it a

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Speaker 3: take that the volcano will be featured on network television

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Speaker 3: at some point, which I don't think nice hot take,

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Speaker 3: that would be nice. Yeah, so we'll see Follow us

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Speaker 3: Oh oh boy, this weird eruption shots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this weird sexy eruption shots. There We leave it there,

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Speaker 1: poor that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: this odyssey, and to take a tow. We'll catch you

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