WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Coaching Carousel, Gary Danielson, Tom Pelissero 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.559 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.800 Sports Radio. Hey, it's hour two on this Thursday. Once again, 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.440 it feels like I'm trapped in a thirty for thirty. 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.880 Everything that happened yesterday, last night, and now this morning, 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.439 Bill Belichick and the Patriots parting ways. They'll have a 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.880 press conference with Belichick and Robert Kraft coming up at 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.159 noon Eastern. Nick Saban yesterday, also Pete Carroll yesterday. I 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.199 thought Mike Brabel and the Titans parting ways was a 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:36.480 big deal. That was That was just the appetizer here. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.640 Now we got to an entree, and then another entree, 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.800 and another entree. Welcome to the program. We say, good morning. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.400 If you're watching on Peacock. It's our streaming partner, our 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.360 radio affiliates around the country. iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio. Nearly 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.559 four hundred cities carrying the program. Phone calls will get 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.680 to those coming up. A lot of people have a 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.080 lot of thoughts on everything that happened yesterday and so 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.440 far today eight seven to seven three DP show Seaton 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.360 Poll question from hour one and then what. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.959 Are we gonna go with an hour two? Dan hour one? 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:10.880 We put up there. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.000 We have who we'll have a better season next year, Alabama, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:21.480 the Patriots or the Seahawks. Sixty seven percent of the 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.480 audience say Alabama, followed by the Seahawks. Oh, not a 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.280 lot of the Patriots rebounding next year? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.560 New coach Bump. Okay, that's not great. What are we 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.319 gonna go with the hour two? We're gonna throw up there? 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:41.480 Harder to replace Bill Belichick or Nick Staban? Is that 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.040 too much of a landslide for Nick Saban? 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.160 I would think so, yeah, I would think so, all right, 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:47.600 we'll go back to who do we want to have 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:47.920 it here? 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.080 With the Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll or Nick Savid. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.400 That one's probably a lot closer. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:52.640 Yeah. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.480 I like that one, you know, because people think I 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.360 get a couple of beers in Bill and maybe he's 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.440 gonna open up a little bit, start dishing on some things. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:03.200 Pete. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.280 I think, yeah, Pete would be fun, But I think 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.400 Nick Saban might be sneaky great with something like that. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.760 All right, let's see we'll get phone calls. Gary Danielson. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:18.680 Gary Danielson has called over five hundred college games, including 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.359 one hundred of Nick sabins. He'll join us, the longtime 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.680 voice of the sec on CBS, former quarterback in the NFL. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.160 He'll join us coming up. Also Tom Pelsero, the insider 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.919 for NFL Network. Sort Of the coaching carousel got stopped 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.160 and then spun in a different direction. With Mike Rabel 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.320 now available. Pete Carroll I think still wants to coach. 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.760 The Chicago Bears situation is really interesting to me for 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:51.959 a couple of reasons. You have Matt Eberflus who had 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.040 to fire his quarterbacks coach an offensive coordinator. Okay, if 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.480 you're going to do that, what coach is going to 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.160 want to come in as your offensive coordinator knowing that 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.040 you might be fired the following year. Therefore, you're going 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.440 in there and then you may be shown the door 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.120 because the coaching staff would be fired. Unless you are 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.840 going to have Matt Eberflus, You're going to bring in 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.720 a new offensive coordinator and a new quarterbacks coach because 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:23.680 you're taking Caleb Williams. And if I'm Matt Eberflus, if 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.880 I can hold on and get another couple of years 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.160 here and now I have a different quarterback. But you'll 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.360 have to extend Matt Eberflus. You have to give him 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.040 a contract extension because if not, he's going to be 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.720 a lane duck coach and you're going to bring in 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.600 a coaching staff or at least offensive coordinator. Why would 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.160 I take that job if I'm not even sure if 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.240 the coach is going to be there, and if you're 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.320 going to bring in Caleb Williams, because if you don't, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.680 and now you're bringing in another offensive coordinator quarterbacks coach 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.800 for Justin Fields and that's not fair to him. And 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.960 this is the first time I thought, Okay, maybe they 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.080 are moving off Justin Fields and they are going to 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.560 take Caleb Williams or Drake May, but they're going to 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.800 take a quarterback because I have to extend the coach 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.120 and then I have to bring in an offensive coordinator 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:19.520 and a quarterbacks coach and have those contracts. You know, 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.239 let's sync up there, or why would you take the job? 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:25.880 That coach is going to be a lame duck coach. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.640 So I'm expecting the Bears, if they're not moving on 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:32.240 from him, that they're going to extend him, and that 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.039 the Bears were probably going to move on from Justin Fields. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.680 And I didn't get that feeling a week ago, but 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.760 I did yesterday. Yeah, kind of interesting. All right, so 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.320 we have our poll question and we'll get phone calls. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.080 Good morning, once again, watching on Peacock. Sign up for 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.000 the newsletter. If you are interested in joining us at 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.760 the Super Bowl in Las Vegas, please do. All you 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.839 have to do is go to the newsletter and have 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.400 all the information tonight at sixth Eastern and we'll let 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.479 you know how you can join us in Las Vegas. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:06.160 Gary Danielson on the golf course, and we appreciate him 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.960 taking time out from his great golf game. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.520 I'm sure what hole are you on? Gary? 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.400 Yes? Dan fact, then really, I'm not to be accurate. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.080 I'm not taking time out. I'm actually doing playing. But 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.640 we are thirteen. We usually start about seven thirty and 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:22.920 we play really fast. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.400 Okay, how surprised were you with the Nick Saban news? 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.839 Well, college football is different. You know, you cannot give 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.320 anybody any heads up about what's going on. If you 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.680 even hint that you know you might have one two 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.359 years left and you're thinking about it, you'll get killed 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:46.360 and recruiting. So I knew whenever Nick decided to do it, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.000 it would be a surprise or very few people would 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.719 know about it. I don't even think a staff will 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.200 about it. So it was going to be one of 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.960 those days and two or three o'clock there was just 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.520 going to be an announcement and then it was going 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.760 to happen. And I think it was going to happen. Now, No, 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.799 didn't didn't realize that there is a bit of a transition. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.800 I think for his football team. I think he was 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.760 really proud of the way this this last team played 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.039 and the job he did. So, you know, I guess 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.160 it kind of makes sense. I think I think he 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.640 and Bill and Nick are all the same age. They're 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:22.680 seventy two years old. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.280 Yeah, but it feels like Pete Carroll still wants to coach, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.120 Belichick still wants to coach. I think I think college football, 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:36.040 today's college football probably sped up the retirement for Nick Saban. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.920 I think nil and transfer portal now, all of a sudden, 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.360 college football you have less control than you do as 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:44.640 an NFL head coach. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.440 I think that's a good observation. I think, you know, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.240 the way that Nick has always built his program is 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.800 obviously recruited great players. I think he was one of 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.320 the you know, the people that really saw the future 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.400 even when he was at Michigan State. When he took 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.200 the job at LSU, he realized he had to be 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.560 at a place to recruit the best to win. So 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.520 I think as he's looked now at his age, is 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.240 a a little more frustrating for these coaches. I can 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.960 see that. You know, it sure is different. I've heard 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.320 stories now from coaches and when you walk into a 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:23.280 recruits room, before you say anything about what type of 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.120 offense you're playing, they want to know, let's get right 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.760 down to it. How much am I going to get? 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:34.080 And I think nil really doesn't explain the process. I 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.520 don't think it's nil. I actually think it's paid to play. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.520 The importance of Saban to the success of the SEC. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.320 How do you quantify that? 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.360 I think it's immeasurable. The fact that he left Michigan 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.720 State and went to LSU. I think he saw kind 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:55.320 of the future. I think the demographics of the Midwest changed. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:08:00.320 I think Nick was a bit frustrated that any realized 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.480 to be at the right school in a state where 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.640 he could control recruiting. You know, the way Ohio State 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.840 and coach at Ohio State, he was at Michigan State. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.000 You know that's an interesting job. Michigan State. You're right 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.000 there in the middle of the state, and the players 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.640 are south of you. And three of the most famous 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.320 schools in college football are just south of you, Notre Dame, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.800 Michigan and Ohio State. So and everybody was shocked. But 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.120 I think Nick Saban's he saw the feature he went 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.120 to Michigan State. I think he got a couple of 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.880 breaks in his career though one his staff did not 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.640 go to Michigan State, and I think he used that 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.920 very widely to hire you know, the Will Musk Champs 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.800 and the Jimbo Fishers, you know, really hungry, good young 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:47.560 coaches that recruited well. And the other break I think was, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:49.840 you know, I don't know how his NFL career were 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.359 to gone, but I don't know if he goes to Alabama, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:56.200 if Drew Brees goes to Miami Dolphins. So you know, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:09:01.040 these things work out. But Nick is very driven. I mean, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.959 I've done five hundred televised games, and I think a 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.920 hundred of them have been with Nick Saban and I personally, 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:12.520 you know, I prepare for the meetings, I go to practice. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.440 I think if he does not respect that, you're prepared 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.800 and understand at least, he doesn't expect you to know everything, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.720 but he expects you to work hard for the game, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.040 just like he expects his entire organization to work hard. 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.439 And I think he's got I think he understands athletes too. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.440 You know, they want a coach that can help them win, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.400 and they want a coach that can help them get 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.480 to the next level, whether it's a high school coach, 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.000 a college coach, or obviously in the pros. They want 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.840 to get the next level is to make more money. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.880 Yeah, and I saw sort of a parallel with what 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.040 John Caliperry's tried to do at Kentucky, that he's preparing 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.920 you for that next job going into the NBA. He 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.600 just hasn't been as successful as Nick Saban. But Saban 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.760 could keep a lot of those players for three years, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.000 maybe four years then, and I on transfer Portal kind 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.079 of happened upon us. When you're in the production meeting 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.920 with Saban. How much would he share with you? 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.480 I never asked him to share any strategy. I just 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.000 don't feel that that is a fair question to ask 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.840 a coach. I really never wanted to know, you know, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.440 what your chip plays or anything like that. I more, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.520 I would let him know that I've watched the tape, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.560 not by telling him, but on my question. I would 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.160 ask him pointed questions about things that happened last game, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.560 things that I've seen the other team do, what changes 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.200 or what players he feels need to play better. Nick 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.960 was never Nick was very good to us. You know, 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.040 he liked Vern a lot. You know, I did ninety 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:51.320 SEC games with Nick Saber and you know most of 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.760 those obviously the last five years with Brad Nessler, a 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.240 lot of them with Vern. He likes both of them. 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.800 So he likes to talk, which you never really Yeah, 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.120 at least I didn't. You know, maybe he was different 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:07.480 with Todd or Kirk, but with me. I never. I 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.040 just didn't feel that that was me to go, you know, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.599 what's your trick plays this week. It's just not that 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.600 how I approached it. I think you had to read 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.240 between the lines of what he was saying and how 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.400 excited he was about his team, and that worked best 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:20.680 for me. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:29.200 Who would you recommend to replace Nick soon? Well? 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.480 I think the names that are out there are all 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:38.440 good names, you know, I mean, you know, Dan Lanning 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.680 would be a really good normal would be a really 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.360 good choice. I mean, obviously, you know there's the connections 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:49.360 with Lane. Those all make sense to me. You know, 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.559 the person that has to have a really strong personality 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.240 to go in there because obviously they're following, you know, 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:56.840 the greatest. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:57.040 Ever. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.600 It's not an easy job for anybody because you know 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.840 this the measurements at Ohio State or you know, when 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.960 we're talking about it's win them all, win them all, 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.920 it's not a great year. So you know, that's that's 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.240 one of the things I really talked about a lot 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.760 when I did Alabama games for all those years. Not 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.400 only did they have really good players, obviously they were 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:28.160 well coached, but they were clutch. They played clutch football 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.760 with the pressure on. They won a lot of games 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.280 when there were a lot of things going against them, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.640 big LSU games. You know, the only really lost I 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.400 think one SEC championship game and that was the Florida 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.760 But I always gave him a lot of credit. You know, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.680 he always talked to his players. You know, he's an 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.000 next quarterback. He always talked to his players that you know, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.640 we got to be disciplined, but you got to let 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.280 it go. You gotta, you know, And I think they 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.679 bought into that, and I was always when I watched 0:12:55.679 --> 0:13:00.800 them play, I really thought it's demanding. As Nick was 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.360 at practice, I think he was, of course, he was 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.600 fiery up the sidelines, but I think he was understanding 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.840 that in the game you got to play a little 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.839 bit loose. Disciplined, yes, but a little bit loose, if 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:13.920 that makes any sense. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.760 Always great to talk to you. Back to your golf game. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.359 Thanks for joining us, Gary. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.280 Appreciate it. Ded, I'm thirteenth old. I've already hit two 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:26.280 all of them. Been talking to him nice and smooth. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.240 Appreciate it. Thanks for calling. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:28.840 Thank buddy. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.480 That's Gary Daniels in a long time voice analyst SEC 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.440 on CBS. A couple of phone calls in here. Dean 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:42.600 in Dallas, Hi Dean, what's on your mind today? Hey Dean, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:46.000 Thanks Dean. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.280 Doug in North Carolina, Hi Doug, what's on your mind? 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.280 Well, Dan, I'm having a battle between my inner child 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:57.040 and my educated adult that I've become in front of me. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.800 I have the numbers for Bear Bryant and Nick Saban 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.960 Gerry Daniel Danielson just called Saban the best ever. Both 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:08.720 of these guys won six national championships with Alabama Bear 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.240 was there longer, obviously, but Nick has a better winning percentage. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.040 So my question is who's the best in Alabama history? 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.880 Oh, I would say Nick Saban because Bear Bryant did 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:24.040 most of had most of his success without integration. I 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.880 think when USC played Alabama and Bear Bryant saw what 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.200 Sam Dbam Cunningham was doing for USC, he decided that 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.200 he was going to recruit African Americans, and so I 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.080 would say that that has to play a little bit 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.840 of a role like eateolfh Rupp as well at Kentucky. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.080 But I would say Nick Saban to do what he's 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:49.880 doing today. You know, it's like John Wooden. John wouldn't 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:55.240 wouldn't be John Wooden today. He's still a great coach, 0:14:55.800 --> 0:15:00.560 but he wouldn't have ten titles in twelve years. Red 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.520 Hrbach wouldn't have that with the Boston Celtics. It just 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.200 but they did it when they did it against the 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.280 competition that you know they were playing. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.600 But you know things have changed. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:15.520 More teams, better teams, better athletes, better coaches, and more money. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:22.640 Let's see what else do we have here? Jesse and Colorado. Hey, Jess, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:23.640 what's on your mind today? 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:25.280 Uh? 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.320 Yeah, I had a question for you guys. Thanks for 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.480 taking my call. But I know his previous stints as 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.680 a head coach weren't the greatest, But what are the 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.080 chances of McDaniel's taking over for the Patriots job. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.640 I don't think he's a head coach. I mean I've 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.560 said that before, Jesse. I just there are certain guys 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.760 who were great at being a coordinator, and I think 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.120 Josh McDaniels is one of those guys. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:54.560 Being a head coach is just different. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.640 You got to be all things to all people, and 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.640 you can't just be this is my little group here. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.560 And we've seen that with Belichick's coaching tree. He had 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.280 a lot of guys who were really good at one thing, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.240 but being a head coach it is difficult. Bill Belichick's 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:17.360 personality is that of a defensive coordinator, not as a 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.360 head coach. But he gets away with it. He got 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:25.480 away with it because they were successful. But I don't 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.359 I mean, maybe they hire Josh McDaniels. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:28.960 I don't know. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.000 That wouldn't be my choice. Mike Rabel would be my choice. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.520 Or drawd Mayo if you want to promote from within. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.680 This guy coming up next, Tom pelserro the NFL Network 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.160 will join us. He'll have some thoughts on that, And 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.360 what's this mean for the coaching carousel that Rabel's now 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.119 available and Pete Carroll is available. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.480 I don't know how many. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.560 Teams are gonna like if you're in a rebuild and 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.040 Pete Carroll at seventy two. I just don't know if 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.880 teams are going to do that. But we'll talk to 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.600 and get his thoughts on that. Coming up next Dan 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.760 Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.960 The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:13.119 am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.040 Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.679 five to seven pm Eastern. 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Listen Over Promised with Cadino and 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.199 Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:16.320 get your podcasts. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.040 All right, we'll talk to Tom Pelco, NFL network insider, 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.119 get his thoughts on this coaching carousel that got a 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.720 couple of new participants yesterday with Bill Belichick. We expected 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.240 and Pete Carroll was a little bit of a surprise. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.200 Mike Rabel maybe a little bit of a surprise as well. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.399 But we'll talk to Tom coming up here in a moment. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.800 Let me get another phone call in here Billy and Nashville. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.200 Hi, Billy, Hey Dan, Hey guys, how's it going on? Great? 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.360 I know Belichick wants to coach, and he'll be good 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.760 anywhere he goes. But this is a chance for the 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:53.840 NFL to fix their coaching problem. I'm sorry they're officiating problem, 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.480 because who better than Bill Belichick who become the guy 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.560 who trains and certifies NFL officiating. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:05.200 Cruisey, that sounds like a miserable job. Though Billy Belichick 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.480 still wants to coach, he wants to surpass Don Shula's 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.400 all time record. The question is, and according to DraftKings, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.280 the best odds right now, the top odds for where 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:20.120 Bill Belichick will coach Week one the LA Chargers. Man, 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.800 I just don't see it. It just feels like that's 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.040 Harbaugh going back West Coast. Then it's the Falcons. I 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.320 don't even know if I see that Commanders. And then 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.000 the fourth best odds are not a head coach of 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.159 any NFL team? 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.520 Yeah, Paul? Could the Falcons bring in the guy who 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.479 did what he did to I know that's what I 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:42.960 was thinking. 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:44.120 I'm not gonna say the phrase. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.760 Twenty eighty three. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:52.280 Tom Pelsero, NFL Network insider. He's been busy. You can, 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.160 by the way, you can see the Dolphins chief Saturday 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.800 at eight eastern exclusively on Peacock as we make way 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:04.320 for Tom right, let's start with Belichick here. He does 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.679 want to coach, Where do you think is the best 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.280 fit for Bill Belichick? 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.760 I would tell you this, Dan, with Bill Belichick, He's 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.040 been aware for months that potentially things would be coming 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:21.760 to an end in New England, and so without you know, 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.040 making a lot of direct contact teams, he's back channeled 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.479 things and gotten a pretty good understanding of, you know, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.800 what potentially his options might be. I would tell you 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.280 there's been a lot of discussion about the Atlanta Falcons. 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.320 I would say that is one possibility, But there are 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.080 also possibilities that there are teams that maybe are still 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.560 in the playoffs, teams that do employ head coaches, maybe 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.760 teams that weren't thinking about making a change, but for 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:53.160 the availability of arguably the greatest coach in NFL history 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.880 suddenly coming to the forefront here. In other words, if 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.679 you're any team that feels like, you know, we've got 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.200 a good coach, but we may not have a great coach, 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.560 why would you not have a conversation right now about 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.720 Bill Belichick. You know, there's delicate pieces of this. There 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.879 are rules regarding interview processes and whatnot. I think that 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.720 for Bill Belichick it always made sense, even though we're 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.200 going to get a press conference today and this has 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.080 been finalized to Bill Belichick and the Patriots or partying ways, 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.920 it has always made sense for Bill Belichick to wait 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.480 and see what happens in the first, maybe even the 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.560 second round of the playoffs and see maybe where there's 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.040 some other teams that are a little further along that 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.760 may not be as much of a build for him, 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:37.879 that might end up potentially becoming options. 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.520