Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draftking Sportsbook, where we
Speaker 1: can only hope to be as interesting as the most
Speaker 1: interesting man in the world. That's Brian Baldinger. Baldi on
Speaker 1: the show today. Also very lucky to be joined here
Speaker 1: in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. Bye my friend Patrick
Speaker 1: claybod a little different for this previous show.
Speaker 2: I'm excited Patrick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get Baldi back and we get you back.
Speaker 3: Yes from London. Glad to have you back in these
Speaker 3: gustatos anidos.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a fun trip over there.
Speaker 1: I'm sad Baldi not to get to watch, you know,
Speaker 1: my team, the Patriots and Drake May this week. That'll
Speaker 1: be an interesting one against the Jaguars. But I'm excited
Speaker 1: to have you aboard.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Greg. Pat good to be with you,
Speaker 4: guys man. Chance to talk to some football here. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think I've got it pretty well digested from week six,
Speaker 4: so you know, I think I can kind of look
Speaker 4: at some of these games and some of these matchups
Speaker 4: that everybody's turning to right now.
Speaker 3: Well everybody, everybody's gonna turn to find out what you
Speaker 3: think about the Birds. So let's start right there, otherwise
Speaker 3: we'll go smallest the biggest spreads. But we got to
Speaker 3: start because we got Baldi on Greg. Yeah, let's go
Speaker 3: ahead and start with the Saquan revenge game. Philadelphia three
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite on Fox. Chris Myers, Mark
Speaker 3: Sanchez and k pink on the call. Baldi the Saquon
Speaker 3: get his revenge against the g Men.
Speaker 4: He could, he could? I mean giants, Stephen is playing great.
Speaker 4: Guys played really well against Seattle two weeks ago, played
Speaker 4: great against an explosive Cincinnati team last week.
Speaker 5: Even with al Cavon, thibadau is, He's o.
Speaker 4: Jealari played great, Dexl Lawrence playing as good as any
Speaker 4: defensive lineman in the league right now. So they're going
Speaker 4: to have their challenges. They did not run the ball
Speaker 4: well last week against Cleveland. But I'm sure you know
Speaker 4: Saquan had this. He's talking in Philadelphia in the locker
Speaker 4: room right now after practice about you know what this
Speaker 4: is all about for him him and you know, so
Speaker 4: there is some of that to it, but he Saque
Speaker 4: knows that it's all about going up there to win
Speaker 4: the game first. And you know, Philadelphia is a better team,
Speaker 4: but you know, the Giants offense. I mean, honestly, guys,
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones couldn't played worse than he did last week.
Speaker 4: And that's disappointing because he'd played really well against Seattle
Speaker 4: without elite neighbors. But he got the ball down the
Speaker 4: field to Slayton into Wandale and really made some things happen.
Speaker 4: Last week, he couldn't make a right read.
Speaker 5: He couldn't. That was a winnable game.
Speaker 4: It's, you know, ten to seven in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 4: and they just need a drive to win, and they
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. And now they have to do it
Speaker 4: with doubt Andrew Thomas, who's their best probably he was
Speaker 4: the best offensive player, maybe the best player on their team.
Speaker 4: He's he's a really good player. So I don't know
Speaker 4: what they're going to do to adjust. But if Daniel
Speaker 4: Jones played like you did last week at home against
Speaker 4: a poor Cincinnati defense, and now you take away his
Speaker 4: blindside protector, I mean, if I was the Eagles, I
Speaker 4: would be I don't know who's going to be out there,
Speaker 4: but I'd be lining up to go get to the
Speaker 4: blindside of Daniel Jones right now.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up. All day.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's gonna be Josh easy to do yeah,
Speaker 1: at left tackle, so they leave Jermaine Illumin or at
Speaker 1: right tackle, where he's played well. This has been a
Speaker 1: good Giants offensive line on balance, been one of the
Speaker 1: strengths of this team.
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned Saquon.
Speaker 1: He says it's been so long he doesn't care anymore
Speaker 1: about the Giants.
Speaker 2: That's in the past and the weeks.
Speaker 1: He also said that the fans, he doesn't think the
Speaker 1: fans will care anymore. I mean, I think they're gonna caren't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna boo them or not.
Speaker 1: But the Eagles need to get it going again on
Speaker 1: the ground, and you mentioned a Giants defense has played
Speaker 1: pretty well, especially against the run. Now, one thing I
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned on this show is that Jordan Malatta is
Speaker 1: also going to be out for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: The left tackle for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Johnson Now, yeah, and he he had some struggles I
Speaker 1: believe last week in that game where they just were
Speaker 1: a little often. This is a big game, Baldy, It's
Speaker 1: a swing game. I know people think the Giant season
Speaker 1: is just over, but they don't want to think that
Speaker 1: they're zero and two in the division.
Speaker 2: They're two and four.
Speaker 1: They win this game, and it's just a messy, mucky
Speaker 1: NFC East race and they're kind of back in it
Speaker 1: at three and four that they can look at this
Speaker 1: game and think they got a chance. They lose it
Speaker 1: and they're basically out of it. They need to win
Speaker 1: this game. And you mentioned how the defense has been playing, well,
Speaker 1: what do you think they do to maybe mess up
Speaker 1: the picture for Jalen Hurts, who I don't know what
Speaker 1: to think about his season right now. Your friend at
Speaker 1: PHL y fran Duffy, I saw him have some numbers
Speaker 1: of just about how they do not throw to the
Speaker 1: middle of the field.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts does not.
Speaker 1: He's last in the league in terms of throwing to
Speaker 1: the middle of the field by a good amount over
Speaker 1: the last few years. And it's just it's a constipated offense.
Speaker 1: As Lane Johnson said over the weekend, well.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a whole lot better when Davante and
Speaker 4: AJ Brown are, you know, in the lineup like they
Speaker 4: were last week. I mean I talked to Aj before
Speaker 4: the game last Sunday, and you know he had five catches,
Speaker 4: all in Brazil and hadn't played since, and a touchdown.
Speaker 5: He had more than all of that in one game.
Speaker 4: You know, I told him he's a long ways away
Speaker 4: from you know, the NL leaders in receptions right now,
Speaker 4: you got to catch up, and he started that process
Speaker 4: last week. It's the one guy you can talk about
Speaker 4: throwing over the middle. And I know Fran has those
Speaker 4: numbers and other people do too, but honestly, when AJ's
Speaker 4: in the lineup, that's where the ball's going. I mean,
Speaker 4: he is the offense. He's the spark, he's the big play.
Speaker 4: He does like he tackled Martin Emerson and tackled his
Speaker 4: arm and the ball and everything to make that touchdown
Speaker 4: catch last week. He was excellent at shaking guys after
Speaker 4: the catch. I mean, he's a beast and he wants
Speaker 4: the ball badly. And the Giants look Deontay Banks, you know,
Speaker 4: Dori Jackson. You can look at the Cardell Float, you
Speaker 4: can look at the guys they have. AJ is better
Speaker 4: than all those guys. And so one thing that that
Speaker 4: Jalen feels comfortable with is just throwing jump balls d A. J.
Speaker 4: Brown And so you're a scramble drill AJ's coming back
Speaker 4: to the ball. So the offense definitely is better and
Speaker 4: it has a lot more jumped to it. It's not
Speaker 4: as constipated as Lange said with as.
Speaker 5: In the lineup right.
Speaker 1: It's funny because they're actually twelfth in DVOA. That's total
Speaker 1: efficiency on offense this year, like the way they talked about,
Speaker 1: and that's with a lot of injuries.
Speaker 2: It's really not that bad.
Speaker 1: I was interested that Cordell Flatt you mentioned his name
Speaker 1: traveled with DK metcalf so last week, which was or
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, rather so I wonder if
Speaker 1: wonder if he does that with his old teammate AJ Brown,
Speaker 1: because I don't think that would go well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be an interesting decision. The Eagles offense, of course,
Speaker 3: you mentioned injuries. They're gonna have to deal with Grant
Speaker 3: Calcaterra playing tight end. Dallas Goddard left the game. Calcl
Speaker 3: Tarra played ninety one percent of the snaps. Interested to
Speaker 3: see if the Dimes home road splits continue to stay
Speaker 3: because for some reason, Daniel Jones really can't get it
Speaker 3: done at MetLife this season zero to two. There has
Speaker 3: not thrown a touchdown pass yet we'll leave that game
Speaker 3: and go to a Super Bowl rematch. The spread one
Speaker 3: and a half points in favor of the home team,
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine Ers. Greg Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady,
Speaker 3: congratulations to new Raiders owner Tomson on the call. Are
Speaker 3: we going to see this Chiefs offense finally get going
Speaker 3: and in the Super Bowl rematch?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I don't think this forty nine Ers defense is what
Speaker 1: it was a year ago. I think Mahomes is coming
Speaker 1: off of his best game. It seems like so long
Speaker 1: ago now that Monday night football game really off his
Speaker 1: best two games of the year.
Speaker 2: I thought he played very well against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: So those are two pretty difficult matchups and Mahomes handled it.
Speaker 1: I am curious to see Baldy nick Bosa, if he's
Speaker 1: lining up against the Chiefs left tackle, what kind of
Speaker 1: havoc he can have, because he's coming off one of
Speaker 1: the most dominant performances I've ever seen for a guy
Speaker 1: that didn't have a sack in the game on that
Speaker 1: Thursday night football game against Seattle, where he really controlled
Speaker 1: that game. Because to me, this forty nine Ers front
Speaker 1: just isn't as good as it once was. But if
Speaker 1: you could have Nick Bosa just having a special performance
Speaker 1: that could at least carry the day and make it
Speaker 1: difficult on Patrick.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, Greg, I mean your eyes aren't deceiving you.
Speaker 4: They're not as dominant. I mean they lost to Von
Speaker 4: Hargrave early this season. He was supposed to be there
Speaker 4: DeForest Buckner, who they never replaced once he left a
Speaker 4: free agency, and then he's out. So Malie Collins, you know,
Speaker 4: you know it steps up, and Leonard Floyd's been okay,
Speaker 4: but they just you know, they have to blitz more,
Speaker 4: honestly to get more pressure. But you know, if Dick can,
Speaker 4: you know, he could beat either tackle out there, you know,
Speaker 4: whether it's Joan or Janie whoever's playing on the left
Speaker 4: side right now, he's capable beating both of them. But
Speaker 4: you know, Mahomes knows that too, so you know he's
Speaker 4: he's excellent at just escaping that and avoiding those kind
Speaker 4: of those kind of plays, negative plays.
Speaker 5: That Nick can create.
Speaker 4: You know what was encouraging for the forty nine ers
Speaker 4: defense last week with the two rookies Mustafa you know,
Speaker 4: and Green, they both had interceptions Yeah, they hadn't had
Speaker 4: any interceptions in a secondary and so like the two
Speaker 4: rookie stepped up last week, especially after really a flat
Speaker 4: game against Arizona, And so you know, I think Diamador
Speaker 4: Lenore is as good as slot corner deserves and the football,
Speaker 4: Fred Warner, all he wants, honestly is the ball. He
Speaker 4: just wants the ball every play, whether he's you know,
Speaker 4: intercepting it, punching it out, recovering it, like.
Speaker 5: He just wants it. Just wants the ball.
Speaker 4: Fred knows that this game like it's it is the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl rematch. It's interesting, you know, Brady's doing a
Speaker 4: game and Fox is doing it. It's the first time
Speaker 4: Fox has ever televised a Super Bowl rematch. Huh wow
Speaker 4: since they started, you know, in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1: So that's backward. You were, you were one of the
Speaker 1: crew members. I mean, I remember watching some Baldy games.
Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, aide you hear Baldi,
Speaker 1: but I was back in high school watching some Baldi
Speaker 1: on those Fox broadcasts.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't getting the A game, you know, I
Speaker 4: wasn't getting that game. Me and Kurt Metafie or Kenny Alvit.
Speaker 4: We were getting somewhere lower down. We were in Carolina, probably.
Speaker 1: Right I was going to say, I if I was
Speaker 1: watching you, it was probably you know, my Patriots, but
Speaker 1: it like going to I don't know, like the Falcons
Speaker 1: or something, not a Fox game.
Speaker 5: Even a Falcons at the Patriots. You know, it was
Speaker 5: over in the first quarter or something like that.
Speaker 4: But you know, regardless, like this, this is the I
Speaker 4: don't think there's like, honestly, the super Bowl is a
Speaker 4: super Bowl. The San Francisco wants to beat Kansas City.
Speaker 4: They need to, Like they're they're just sort of hovering
Speaker 4: right now. They're not playing great. We'll see. Honestly, all
Speaker 4: the rookie stepped up, Grendo stepped up last week. But
Speaker 4: you know, we're going to talk about the quarterbacks. And
Speaker 4: there is some similarity between brock Party and my homes
Speaker 4: just from a standpoint of being able to create offense.
Speaker 4: Their movement. Brock Purty was excellent last week and extending
Speaker 4: plays and so you do see both guys they're probably
Speaker 4: if you put them in a forty yard dash, they
Speaker 4: probably both run about a forty eight. But on the
Speaker 4: football field, the way that they stop, start, change directions,
Speaker 4: you know, head fake, ball fake, all those things. They
Speaker 4: both have those kinds of things to extend plays and
Speaker 4: it's a big part of both their offenses right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, plays extended because you think about Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 3: not necessarily wanting to blitz him. It's just he and
Speaker 3: Josh Allen in terms of quarterbacks who see their average
Speaker 3: time of throw go way up on third down and
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers defense gonna have to deal with that.
Speaker 3: You guys mentioned Malik Mustafa uh just allowing one reception
Speaker 3: on seven yards and six targets this season. I'll get start,
Speaker 3: and I think back to the change to go to
Speaker 3: Nick Sorenson.
Speaker 6: As a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Steve Wilkes has the unifbi old task of stopping Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes in the Super Bowl, which has.
Speaker 6: Kind of happened one time to keep his job. It doesn't.
Speaker 3: And so now here's Nick Sorenson with your chance, Greg
Speaker 3: to go out there stop the Chiefs and I guess
Speaker 3: save your job. Yeah, I mean that's the standard.
Speaker 1: And Baldy mentioned that the best way to stop it,
Speaker 1: which is just Fred Warner. The Chiefs, I read has
Speaker 1: the I right now are throwing more screens than any
Speaker 1: team since twenty eighteen, and that does any Chiefs team,
Speaker 1: any team period. They're they're living off of screens, and
Speaker 1: Fred Warner is just one of the best players in
Speaker 1: the league to stop it.
Speaker 4: You know, Andy Reid's been in this business a long time.
Speaker 4: He's always been a pass first guy. But because of
Speaker 4: all of the injuries, you know, whether it's to you know,
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown or she Rice, all the injuries and defections
Speaker 4: from the wide receiving cores. I mean, they're almost a
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty run pass team right now. One hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty passes, one hundred and fifty runs. Andy Reid's
Speaker 4: never been that fifty one to forty nine like this
Speaker 4: before in his life. But honestly, they're a very good
Speaker 4: power run football team. And Kareem Hunt, who leads the
Speaker 4: team in rushing right now, somehow after just two games,
Speaker 4: you know like they they might lean on that because
Speaker 4: San Francisco doesn't look like I've seen teams, including Arizona
Speaker 4: run the ball really well in the second half and
Speaker 4: that win against him a couple weeks ago in San Francisco,
Speaker 4: So like, if they have to lean on the run,
Speaker 4: and that includes home scrambles and design runs like I
Speaker 4: think they're I think they're kind of willing to do
Speaker 4: that right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in capable.
Speaker 1: They've shown it and they've gotten better offensively throughout the
Speaker 1: course of the season. It's kind of an old school
Speaker 1: matchup because the forty nine ers play so much in
Speaker 1: twenty one personnel, So that's two running backs.
Speaker 2: On the field.
Speaker 1: Though running back in a full back usually you know
Speaker 1: it's it's use check. But they're in that forty one
Speaker 1: percent of the time. Baldy, before the show, you asked
Speaker 1: me like, what's the audience for NFL Daily. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, you could get as deep as you want to, Baldy,
Speaker 1: not that I can get that deep. But they're averaging
Speaker 1: over ten yards per attempt out of twenty one personnel.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So they're in these heavy formations, but they're they're gashing
Speaker 1: you down the field. You must you must love that
Speaker 1: because that's nineteen nineties football.
Speaker 5: Well it is. You know, it's changed a lot.
Speaker 4: Obviously, it's evolved, but I mean every offensive lineman wants
Speaker 4: to running and play action pass payge pass is the
Speaker 4: easiest block there is. When you know when the defensive
Speaker 4: lineman is anticipating another run. I mean, it slows them
Speaker 4: down tremendously and so uh and both teams are more
Speaker 4: of the capable of San Francisco has made a great
Speaker 4: living if they've got a play action pass off every
Speaker 4: run in Kyle Shanahan's offense.
Speaker 5: So I would expect.
Speaker 4: Both teams to have kind of new wrinkles, uh, within
Speaker 4: within the framework of their offense for this particular game,
Speaker 4: and kind of knowing just the style of defense and
Speaker 4: the percentage that you know, Spags is going to blitz
Speaker 4: and nobody's better than Spags at getting free hitters to
Speaker 4: the quarterback. And nobody seems to be able to block
Speaker 4: Chris Jones in his business right now. So Kansas City, Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, all the way up into overtime, when San
Speaker 4: Francisco had a chance to score there an opening drive,
Speaker 4: you know, had pressure right in brock Perty's face, and
Speaker 4: you know they ended up settling for the field goal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ultimately saving the Super Bowl for Kansas City. I
Speaker 3: think that you could say that they won that on
Speaker 3: that on that player missed assignment by the offensive line
Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers. You talked about new wrinkles, Baldy,
Speaker 3: We've got a couple of new wrinkles in our next game.
Speaker 3: It is the Jets, a one and a half point
Speaker 3: favorite at Pittsburgh. The over under thirty eight on Sunday
Speaker 3: Night Football with Tarrico and Collins Worth, Melissa Stark on
Speaker 3: the call. Mike Tomlin getting first team reps for Russell
Speaker 3: Wilson this week the Jets. Oh, they go in and
Speaker 3: get Davonte Adams. First off, Let's start with the quarterback, Baldy,
Speaker 3: do you make this change right now at four and two?
Speaker 5: I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: In fact, I texted somebody in Pittsburgh today. Of course
Speaker 4: he didn't get back to me about that. He told
Speaker 4: me about other players, but he didn't tell me about
Speaker 4: the quarterback. Not that I was fishing.
Speaker 1: I was just it was just kind of a the
Speaker 1: same You're like, Hey, I'm an NFL daily today.
Speaker 2: I want the good stuff.
Speaker 4: And you know the one thing about Justin, Like, first
Speaker 4: of all, you know they're in good position, you know,
Speaker 4: four and two whatever, but Justin has taken care of
Speaker 4: the football. Now you can say that George Pikett doesn't
Speaker 4: have a touchdown catch and you know their run. First
Speaker 4: team and but Justin's taking share of the football and
Speaker 4: they got to the playoffs last year, guys with their
Speaker 4: three quarterbacks throwing a total of thirteen touchdown passes. So
Speaker 4: you know, I mean there's a formula there in Pittsburgh now,
Speaker 4: and Justin's run for five touchdowns while throwing for five.
Speaker 4: It gives you an element that Russell really isn't very
Speaker 4: good at anymore.
Speaker 5: And so I wouldn't make the change. I would ride
Speaker 5: Justin at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and we talked about that on
Speaker 1: our show on Wednesday with Colleen Wolf and Jordan Rodrigue.
Speaker 1: It just we'll see, We'll see if he fits in
Speaker 1: this Arthur Smith offense. I'm curious on the other side,
Speaker 1: you know, they add DeVante Adams. I actually believe that
Speaker 1: the Steelers were favored in this game. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's just people aren't big on Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: or they're big on Devanta Adams, but now the Jets
Speaker 1: are favored in this game. I'm curious if, like Todd Downing,
Speaker 1: who I think had a good first showing as their
Speaker 1: play caller, their offense made sense to me, you know,
Speaker 1: can he make all the different parts work together, you know,
Speaker 1: on the fly, that seems like it's going to be
Speaker 1: difficult to do, especially against this good Steelers front.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean, the problem with the Jets really has been
Speaker 4: their offensive line. I mean, Aaron's not great, don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, but they haven't played well up front. They've
Speaker 4: blocked a little bit better last week, but you know,
Speaker 4: brees Hall has had so many negative runs and runs
Speaker 4: that have gone for two yards or less this year.
Speaker 4: And then the protection. I mean, it's just you can
Speaker 4: see it. It's getting worse. These guys on the edges,
Speaker 4: Tyron and Morgan, we knew they were old. They had
Speaker 4: a lot of trade off the tire, and they were
Speaker 4: poor against Buffalo, and now here comes TJ and Cam,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, the problem is Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 4: getting hit way too much. He has to get rid
Speaker 4: of the ball quickly right now. He can't stay in
Speaker 4: there the way maybe he once could and maybe avoid
Speaker 4: some pressure. You know, he's taken a lot of hits
Speaker 4: in the last three games and the last three losses.
Speaker 4: I don't know if DeVante changed that. They're heavily penalized.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Davante changes that. I say all that,
Speaker 4: and yet at the same time they needed one play
Speaker 4: to beat Denver. They couldn't make the play. Just a
Speaker 4: really bad timing between Aaron and all the receivers in
Speaker 4: that game. You know, then Garrett Wilson shakes loose at
Speaker 4: the end, beats Stefan Gilmour and Aaron overthrows them. It
Speaker 4: would have been an easy walk in touchdown for Garrett.
Speaker 4: And they lose that game. And last week they're down
Speaker 4: the three yard line, they're at the sixteen yard line,
Speaker 4: they can't score, and so maybe Davante they you know,
Speaker 4: they dial it back from three years ago when you know,
Speaker 4: Aaron just gave Davante a lookin next thing, you know,
Speaker 4: the balls in the end zone and it's back shoulder,
Speaker 4: it's double move, it's coming back, you know, and it's
Speaker 4: it's thrown to the pylon and get Vante's exactly where
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be. And you make back shoulder throws
Speaker 4: like this against Brandon Stevens, and you know, maybe they
Speaker 4: have that rhythm right away. But I don't know how
Speaker 4: Todd Downing's supposed to know that. Maybe Aaron's going to
Speaker 4: call the plays, but it's a lot to expect when
Speaker 4: they haven't played together in three years, that it's just
Speaker 4: gonna click right away.
Speaker 1: Yeah what just injury note for the listeners, Alex Heismith
Speaker 1: I believe is expected to return for this game, so
Speaker 1: that that's big for them. They still will be without
Speaker 1: Nick Herbig, But yeah, you mentioned Hayward and Watt. That
Speaker 1: is the best duo in the league now, so now
Speaker 1: you add another great pass rusher at alex Hi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to think because the game and the
Speaker 3: score gets inflated, right, Aaron throws a hill Mary, It's
Speaker 3: what Aaron does.
Speaker 6: But I'm thinking back to that play.
Speaker 3: A Japanessa's for some reason standing on the fifty yard
Speaker 3: line like he's in the flat baldy Like it's just
Speaker 3: a weird because the previous drive ended with the Epanessa's
Speaker 3: sack right and and Aaron is getting hit constantly. Greg
Speaker 3: Russeaul is also on the forty. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the Bills were doing there, but everything was sideline.
Speaker 2: They were trying too. It was a bad idea.
Speaker 6: It didn't work out.
Speaker 3: It was it was a bad plan on that particular play,
Speaker 3: but it just it still seems so hard even with downing.
Speaker 3: It seemed like a clear attempt to try to get
Speaker 3: some more layups in right. We had a flea flicker,
Speaker 3: reverse pas attempt just to try to get something where
Speaker 3: it's not just Aaron manufacturing things, but if he can
Speaker 3: do it right, it's with DeVante. But I'm with you, Baldy.
Speaker 3: I saw Aaron get hit way too much to feel
Speaker 3: confident against the Steelers team. I think the line movement
Speaker 3: just reflects probably more Russell Wilson.
Speaker 6: Than Devanta Adams.
Speaker 3: I don't know, considering the way Ray Davis was plowing
Speaker 3: over Jets, Baldy, I don't know how good I feel
Speaker 3: about the Jets defense right now.
Speaker 6: Either.
Speaker 5: I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Javon Kinlaw is a former first
Speaker 4: round pick, and you can say he's talented. San Francisco
Speaker 4: saw enough of them. I mean they lifted him right
Speaker 4: out of this, out of his chair the other day
Speaker 4: and just planted him. I mean, he's not holding the point.
Speaker 4: Lecky Foe two look lost in there. They weren't good upfront.
Speaker 4: Buffalo pushed him all over the field in that game.
Speaker 4: Kind of surprised that the game was as close as
Speaker 4: it was, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: All right, We'll go to another game with a couple
Speaker 3: of teams who have been in some close games. It's
Speaker 3: Seattle and Atlanta, also featuring a couple of defenses have
Speaker 3: allowed the other teams to go up and down the field,
Speaker 3: leading to those score fests. That's why it's a fifty
Speaker 3: one over under Atlanta two and a half point home favorite.
Speaker 3: Greg Kenny Albert, Jonathan Wilba and Megan Olivia on the call.
Speaker 3: Kirk o Chain's getting another win in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. If I have to pick it,
Speaker 1: maybe that's my Seattle bias. They're on a three game
Speaker 1: losing streak. The Falcons are on a three game winning
Speaker 1: streak if I'm correct. Yeah, they were one and two
Speaker 1: and they're making it work. Every week. I go and
Speaker 1: check that number. You know, how is Kirk doing and
Speaker 1: the play action or moving outside the pike and still
Speaker 1: bad every week? He basically isn't moving. He's just winning
Speaker 1: from the pocket. It's happening. And Mike McDonald's been under
Speaker 1: a lot of heat this week in Seattle. The honeymoon's
Speaker 1: kind of over, just because they look so similar in
Speaker 1: the ways that they're losing to the ways that they
Speaker 1: lost the last few years. Bad tackling, a lot of
Speaker 1: just mistackle. It's boring stuff, it's bad run fits, it's
Speaker 1: just guys not being in the spot that they are
Speaker 1: supposed to be. And I'm curious because I know it
Speaker 1: was against Carolina Baldy last week, but I think if
Speaker 1: Atlanta can get Tyler Alzier and Bijon Robinson working as
Speaker 1: a duo like they did in that game and the
Speaker 1: run came along a little bit too in that Tampa game,
Speaker 1: then this then this team is real because the defense
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris can scheme it up, but they need to
Speaker 1: be a great, great offense, and for that to happen,
Speaker 1: they need to get their running game cohesive. I don't
Speaker 1: think they were the first month of the season in
Speaker 1: terms of their run blocking. You're you're the blocking specialist here.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't really working. Are you feeling more confident
Speaker 1: about this running attack going up against Seattle.
Speaker 4: Especially because it's against Seattle seas they're giving up thirty
Speaker 4: five points a game? You know, I mean two weeks ago,
Speaker 4: Tyrone Tracy Junior, if anybody knew who he was, went
Speaker 4: up there and ran for one hundred and twenty nine
Speaker 4: yards against Seattle. You know everybody's been they're giving up
Speaker 4: five yards of carry. Uh, Atlanta's looking at that going
Speaker 4: you know, why why don't we become a run first team?
Speaker 5: Some days?
Speaker 4: I think Tyler Algiers a better back than Bijon. Now,
Speaker 4: Bijon's is an explosive and he could hit home runs.
Speaker 4: But Tyler Algier is a quality back and he would
Speaker 4: play for any team in this league. He breaks so
Speaker 4: many tackles, he's so hard to attack. But the combination
Speaker 4: is a very good combination. You can look at David
Speaker 4: Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs, there's a couple really stand out,
Speaker 4: you know, duos and running backs. But I think Bijon
Speaker 4: and Tyler are really good. I think Seattle's going to
Speaker 4: have problems. I also think that. I mean, if honestly,
Speaker 4: if I was Kirk Cousins and I did want to
Speaker 4: throw it, I might just throw it to Drake London
Speaker 4: every play because his catch radius, his route running, he's
Speaker 4: just an elite player, and he's an excellent blocker. He's
Speaker 4: as good a run blocker at receiver as there is
Speaker 4: in his whole league. He's a big part of that
Speaker 4: running success and he knows how to do it without
Speaker 4: getting run over and getting called for holding and all
Speaker 4: this stuff. He's just very skilled at getting linebackers or
Speaker 4: slot defenders like out of the way and let Bijeon
Speaker 4: or Tyler go.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking over at that defense because the offense
Speaker 3: is I don't have as many questions about. My concern
Speaker 3: is with the Falcons because Andy Dalton they got, They
Speaker 3: got a lot of hands on Andy Dalton passes last week.
Speaker 3: A Jdrell eventually came back and gets him. And now
Speaker 3: here's this kind of Schrodinger's receiver in DK Metcalf who's
Speaker 3: either going off or doing nothing, and if he is
Speaker 3: scoring touchdowns, they're getting called back. Kenny will Walker got
Speaker 3: this this insane illegal formation penalty where he's just bouncing
Speaker 3: up and down for no reason, and it caused DK
Speaker 3: to get a touchdown called back.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of cutaways because it's DK.
Speaker 3: The broadcast might play it up, but I'm looking at
Speaker 3: this matchup and I do have some concern for the Falcons,
Speaker 3: even though it has a.
Speaker 1: There's similar teams to me right now in a way
Speaker 1: in that I think Seattle and Atlanta both they need
Speaker 1: to be elite offensively. That's that's their path, and I
Speaker 1: think Seattle could could be that team. They're on a
Speaker 1: little extra rest, They're on my extra rest watch. They
Speaker 1: got they got the Thursday night game, so they got
Speaker 1: they got three or four extra nights.
Speaker 2: Than the Falcons.
Speaker 1: I just don't the Falcons don't seem like a five
Speaker 1: and two on a four game winning streak type of
Speaker 1: team to me. So that's why I'm I'm leaning Seattle
Speaker 1: in this one. We're gonna take a quick break on
Speaker 1: NFL Daily. We'll be back. Baldy's gonna join us for
Speaker 1: a couple more games. That's what we got time for.
Speaker 1: Talk to him. Oh, it's a good one in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Nointh back on NFL Daily. And when I looked at
Speaker 1: this schedule, I just I kind of fell in love
Speaker 1: with this Week seven. We got the Super Bowl rematch,
Speaker 1: we got Russell Wilson versus Devanta Adams in a Steelers
Speaker 1: Jets game out of nowhere. And this block just has
Speaker 1: two beautiful games to start off with, including one in
Speaker 1: the NFC North, two of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, it's time for the Game of the
Speaker 3: Week presented by DraftKings sports Book.
Speaker 6: They didn't want the Super Bowl rematch Waldy.
Speaker 3: They was said, I want the best division in football,
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold in the Minnesota Vikings, a two and a
Speaker 3: half point favorite with over under a fifty against Jared
Speaker 3: Golf and the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 6: How do you see this going, Balding.
Speaker 4: So, if we're gonna go matchups here, Pat, I really
Speaker 4: like Ben Johnson against Brian Flores, the number one offense
Speaker 4: against the number one defense. To me, this is the
Speaker 4: best matchup of the week, and for that reason because
Speaker 4: Brian Flores has been brilliant this year, just brilliant in
Speaker 4: what he's done between the takeaways, the sacks, almost positionless
Speaker 4: football by amongst the different players, and what they're doing
Speaker 4: to good quarterbacks and good offenses to be undefeated against
Speaker 4: Detroit that you know, I mean, the best way to
Speaker 4: counter some of the things Brian Flores does is to
Speaker 4: run the ball right down your throat with you know,
Speaker 4: with Penney Sewell and you know Frank Ragnow the whole
Speaker 4: group up there. They're playing Kevin Zeidler, they're playing great,
Speaker 4: and so I really want to see how Detroit attacks.
Speaker 5: There's always new wrinkles.
Speaker 4: There's always tricks, there's always explosive plays in Ben Jonson's system.
Speaker 4: The Vikings haven't seen an offense this diverse where they
Speaker 4: can pound you if they want to. They can nickel
Speaker 4: and dimue with guys like Sam Laporta and Aman Ross
Speaker 4: Saint Brown, or they can just burn you with you know,
Speaker 4: a guy like you know Johnson right there on the outside.
Speaker 4: So like, I just think this thing has all of
Speaker 4: the elements that an analyst would love to dig into.
Speaker 4: When you talk about matchups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked, you know, at the matchups from last year.
Speaker 1: I don't know how predictive they are because it was
Speaker 1: in December. It was Nick Mullen starting for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: By that point of the season, the Flora's defense was
Speaker 1: not playing as effectively. That said, they were actually pretty
Speaker 1: evenly played yardage wise, they were both quite even and
Speaker 1: and the Lions won, you know, two close games there.
Speaker 2: I want to see if Aaron Jones plays in this game.
Speaker 2: We don't know. They traded for cam Akers again.
Speaker 1: Yes, since we last taped the Show's that cam Akers
Speaker 1: has trade value still after those two achilles.
Speaker 2: He's been running hard this year now.
Speaker 1: It is like a six to seventh round pick swap
Speaker 1: and might speak to their not as confident and ty
Speaker 1: Chandler as the backup for Aaron Jones, but to me,
Speaker 1: he's really important. He kind of reminds me of Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones in Green Bay where just nothing worked as well
Speaker 1: when Aaron Jones wasn't there. And you kind of saw
Speaker 1: that in the London game once he was out. Probably
Speaker 1: Seam Darnold's worst performance, and it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how he looks going up against this Lions defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that they don't have a great pass rush and so
Speaker 1: he should have time with Aiden Hutchinson not there, but
Speaker 1: their secondary I think has been getting better every week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, better every.
Speaker 3: Week, And why not go ahead and give him the
Speaker 3: toughest test the football can provide in Justin Jefferson, who's
Speaker 3: faced actually press coverage on thirty seven snaps this season
Speaker 3: and only has three catches there without a pass rush
Speaker 3: against the guy who has traditionally torched the Detroit Lions
Speaker 3: in his games against them all. If you want to
Speaker 3: go fantasy wise, he averages over twenty three points a
Speaker 3: game every single time he plays the Detroit Lions at Like,
Speaker 3: how much are you gonna send Carlton Davis and Terry
Speaker 3: on Arnold maybe out to play a man press against
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson when we've seen, right Sam Darnold's predilection to
Speaker 3: load up Justin Jefferson with targets, which I mean, we
Speaker 3: can't criticize, but I still think it's fine. It's fat
Speaker 3: if you want to do that, But it's just it's
Speaker 3: such a great matchup, and I think, like with the
Speaker 3: way that koc is calling plays, Uh, it's it's tough,
Speaker 3: butall it's tough to look at this and say, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: Jared's gonna solve Flores and and they're gonna win this
Speaker 3: game in Minnesota with them playing such a good football.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you've got Jamison Williams on one side,
Speaker 4: you got Justin Jefferson on the other side. Uh, you know,
Speaker 4: Carlton Carlton Davis has been unbelievable pick up for him.
Speaker 4: He's playing great football a week in week out. I mean, uh,
Speaker 4: his ability to read routes, to play in sticky coverage.
Speaker 4: They're putting a lot on him right now and he's
Speaker 4: delivering like he did in Tampa. He was their best
Speaker 4: corner of Tampa he's their best corner right now, so
Speaker 4: he's gonna see a Justin The one thing I love
Speaker 4: about Justin Jefferson is he has a plan to get
Speaker 4: open and then he has a plan after the catch.
Speaker 5: The guy is he's a remarkable player.
Speaker 4: And so, uh, you know, if Aaron Jones can't go,
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to lean on the creativity of Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 4: His creative genius. I don't know if it's genius, but
Speaker 4: he's He's very creative in the passing game. And they'll
Speaker 4: they'll create you know, whether Detroit sad man or zone whatever,
Speaker 4: they'll they'll have the right plays up against the predictable coverage.
Speaker 4: And that's one of the strengths of what Kevin's done
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it'll be interesting if Detroit can get a
Speaker 1: lead in this game. You know, the Vikings defense hasn't
Speaker 1: had to play from behind, they haven't had to stop
Speaker 1: the run as much. And nothing will test your toughness
Speaker 1: up front. And they have a great rotation of players
Speaker 1: up front of Minnesota, but nothing will test your toughness.
Speaker 1: Then this offensive line is running after you over and over.
Speaker 1: Blake Cashman has turf toe that was the surprise coming
Speaker 1: out of the buy. So he is week to week,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna miss this game. Really looking forward to
Speaker 1: this one, Lions Vikings. We had to wrap up with
Speaker 1: the game of the week from uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: one of the goat analysts in this business. He's been
Speaker 1: doing it back since he was on those Fox broadcasts.
Speaker 1: He's still going strong and he's got a million different shows.
Speaker 1: You got to get to one of them. Any any
Speaker 1: of your podcasts you want to promote before we say
Speaker 1: goodbye to you, Baldi?
Speaker 4: Ah, you know, I mean there was a daily podcast
Speaker 4: every day on Odyssey and all city podcasts in Chicago
Speaker 4: and Phoenix and Philly and Dallas and Denver. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 4: be on that. I'll be on that national radio call.
Speaker 4: I'll see Tom Brady out there this weekend. Looking forward
Speaker 4: to getting out there. I'm actually leaving to go out
Speaker 4: there tomorrow, so I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Baldy. We will see you next time.
Speaker 1: Thanks love having Brian Baldinger on. And that was our
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Speaker 2: The crown is yours. I love this next matchup too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just talked about how the North in the
Speaker 3: NFC the best division of football right now. The Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers get another fun one in Lambeau. They are
Speaker 3: two and a half point favorites greg against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3: It is good news for them. They get some of
Speaker 3: their wide receivers back. We're gonna wait to see what
Speaker 3: don Tavian Wix's status is for this game. The problem
Speaker 3: for Houston they're going to be their second straight game
Speaker 3: without Nico Collins over under forty seven and a half.
Speaker 6: We get Nansen, Romo and Tracy on the call. It's
Speaker 6: the A. It's the A one for CBS and I
Speaker 6: think it should be.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, good game again. This week has a number
Speaker 1: of bangers. I just wanted to just make a note here.
Speaker 6: Oka.
Speaker 1: You know how I set you up there and then
Speaker 1: you said, Okay, it's Texans, it's Packers' it's the points.
Speaker 1: I happened to have looked at the comments uh recently
Speaker 1: on YouTube ones you shouldn't do Probably one one of
Speaker 1: the comments was commenting on your handsomeness, which was that
Speaker 1: was funny that them.
Speaker 2: The heart eye emojis.
Speaker 1: Another mentioned like, why is Patrick always like cutting Greg
Speaker 1: off to set up the games?
Speaker 2: Doesn't he know that Greg's the host?
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say, for your sake, Patrick,
Speaker 1: you're doing me a favor. We're a team here on Wednesdays,
Speaker 1: and you're taking a little off my plate here on
Speaker 1: the on the preview show Thursdays rather and that's that's
Speaker 1: that's how we're doing it.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's on purpose. He's not cutting me off.
Speaker 6: People. Yeah, I don't like to interrupted.
Speaker 3: This is NFL with Greg Ross all the key there
Speaker 3: being daily Greg's doing a lot. Yeah, So if I
Speaker 3: if I could jump in here and do the thing
Speaker 3: where I talk too much as another as I'm looking
Speaker 3: at the YouTube commenter, uh say that, uh that I
Speaker 3: am a shield NFL android.
Speaker 2: Oh don't don't look. Okay, now we're getting no.
Speaker 6: No, it's fine.
Speaker 3: It's fine because I get to sit in here in
Speaker 3: the Chris Wesley podcast studio with you and do this.
Speaker 3: I'll take whatever any loser man eighty four sixty three
Speaker 3: wants to slide.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to point that out. It was actually
Speaker 2: weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Then I saw that and I thought it was funny,
Speaker 1: and it just crossed my mind that that is red.
Speaker 6: I'm cutting you off right now, Greg.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know where we are in this game. But one,
Speaker 1: all right, one thing I want to you mentioned the
Speaker 1: Texans offense. I think they're one of the strangest things
Speaker 1: going on in football right now. I just I don't
Speaker 1: think they're playing well, but I just think they have
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback who's playing like he's having the second
Speaker 1: year leap that one of the best rookie quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: all time you would hope that he's had. And it's
Speaker 1: not totally showing up because I think there's another world
Speaker 1: where this team is really struggling and everyone is saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the coaching is not smart and the offensive line is
Speaker 1: not great, like what is going on in Houston.
Speaker 2: C J.
Speaker 1: Stroud is declining, but he's just such an exceptional player
Speaker 1: that he's making it all look good. Even against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: like their success rate on a play to play basis
Speaker 1: was not good, but they had these short fields and
Speaker 1: he just is making incredible plays. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what like, my takeaway from all that is other than
Speaker 1: I think when you play better defenses, it could show
Speaker 1: up more. I just am not sure that the Packers
Speaker 1: are one of those better defenses.
Speaker 2: The Packers are.
Speaker 1: They're fine, They're gonna get a lot of turnovers, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's replicable. I mean, it's it
Speaker 1: has been so far, but are you gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do that all season long? Otherwise you're not a
Speaker 1: great pass rush. You're working in more rookies, which I
Speaker 1: think is a positive. Edgerrin Cooper and Evan Williams were
Speaker 1: two guys last week that really popped a rookie linebacker
Speaker 1: in a rookie safety, and so I think that's a positive.
Speaker 1: I think they're making those changes maybe because they're not
Speaker 1: happy with what's going on on the places where Xavier
Speaker 1: McKinney isn't just making the best interception you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what my takeaway is with this
Speaker 1: Houston team other than just c J. Stroud is freaking amazing,
Speaker 1: and the running game is way better when you have
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon back there. Joe Mixon is proof that running
Speaker 1: backs matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was going to throw those two things
Speaker 3: in there for you, because the games, because if you
Speaker 3: look at the season long, right, and we're thinking points
Speaker 3: per game and what we expect, they score seven against
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, right, they get the Bears game out
Speaker 3: of the way, which they win nineteen to thirteen. Those
Speaker 3: are two top ten defenses in the NFL right now,
Speaker 3: and so now they come into this game. They scored
Speaker 3: forty one on New England. Again, regardless of what we
Speaker 3: think about the Patriots, that's without Nico Collins.
Speaker 2: A lot of defense hoping there.
Speaker 3: But yes, I feel confident in this offense that I
Speaker 3: don't necessarily think they're going to get a win here
Speaker 3: because again, this defense opportunistic, mainly Xavier McKinney, whose pickstreak
Speaker 3: did come to an end last week. So we miss
Speaker 3: out on the fun packers counting to five, six and seven.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll keep counting with his next opportunity. But it's
Speaker 3: the way that Jordan Love is playing with Jayden Reids specifically,
Speaker 3: because I used to be one of those that was
Speaker 3: very critical of this idea that this is hey, you
Speaker 3: get you get cheese debo addition, and I'm like that
Speaker 3: we keep trying to find Deebo Samuel Clones and it's
Speaker 3: stopped doing it. But how much does he weigh? He
Speaker 3: doesn't weigh anything, No, and he's not running through people.
Speaker 3: But the but the shiftedness, the ability to be involved
Speaker 3: in the run game, in the past game, in the
Speaker 3: particular ways in within this tree of offense that that
Speaker 3: has roots now from sea to Shining Sea. It's it's
Speaker 3: just it's good and it's tough. It's tough to pick
Speaker 3: the Texans on the road. U here in two really
Speaker 3: good teams, which I think it will come down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're similar in that they they're so good,
Speaker 1: they have such good coaches, and they're just good organizations.
Speaker 1: Right right now, where the Texans are at in terms
Speaker 1: of bringing into Migo Ryans and their player acquisition, that
Speaker 1: they can survive a first six games of the season,
Speaker 1: I actually don't think either team has been at their
Speaker 1: total best, and yet they're five to one and four
Speaker 1: and two. Jordan loves performance last week. I know that
Speaker 1: it was a favorable matchup, but I just think it's
Speaker 1: gonna give him confidence and give this offense confidence that
Speaker 1: they're kind of back to where they expected to be.
Speaker 1: Now they're going up against a Texans defense that's second
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now in Dvoa. I mean it
Speaker 1: has been a really good defense. The defense has been
Speaker 1: better than their offense. I think it's the bigger him.
Speaker 1: The defense and CJ. Strat are the reason why they're
Speaker 1: five and one. They both their starting linebackers were out
Speaker 1: of practice on Wednesday. Kamari Lassiter and Jimmy Ward are
Speaker 1: also out of practice on Wednesday. Two guys in the secondary.
Speaker 1: So that's just interesting, important players to watch as the
Speaker 1: week goes on in terms of their availability. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think Joe Mixon, the way he's running makes
Speaker 1: a big difference for this team.
Speaker 2: I have I have a hard time picking this game.
Speaker 2: I have not decided.
Speaker 3: Oh game, We've got game deview coming up later on
Speaker 3: this week on NFL Network. We go to our next game.
Speaker 3: It is the Arizona Cardinals playing host to the Los
Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers, who are a three point favorite coming off
Speaker 3: of their win against the Denver Broncos. The over under
Speaker 3: is forty three and a half. Ken Kyler and the
Speaker 3: Birds offense Greg get whatever this slump is figured out?
Speaker 1: Yes, cause it's like they're in every other game team
Speaker 1: so it just feels like they're either terrible or awesome.
Speaker 2: And in every other game.
Speaker 1: And I worry that Marvin Harrison Junior won't be available
Speaker 1: for this game. He's coming off a concussion, so we
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be out of the
Speaker 1: protocol by Sunday. There's no way to know early in
Speaker 1: the week, and if he's not there, then you start
Speaker 1: worrying about Okay, we know the defense isn't that talented,
Speaker 1: but is this offense maybe as talented as we thought
Speaker 1: coming into the year. The running game has just not
Speaker 1: been as consistent as you would have liked. Trey McBride
Speaker 1: had a nice game last week, certainly, but it's a
Speaker 1: tough matchup. This is charged defense has really improved, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what they do when they have to play
Speaker 1: some of the better offenses in the league, but there
Speaker 1: aren't many of them on their schedule. They've been very
Speaker 1: I just would say sound when I watch them. They
Speaker 1: don't make any mistakes. That to me speaks to good
Speaker 1: coaching from Jesse Minter. Guys who were struggling in other systems,
Speaker 1: like Christian Fulton at cornerbacker, are playing very well for them.
Speaker 1: They're linebackers, who I thought were a question mark. I've
Speaker 1: been again, very solid in the run, in the pass game.
Speaker 1: It's just just a really good defense that you have
Speaker 1: to earn your yards against, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: matchup that could favor the Chargers. I'm kind of falling
Speaker 1: for this Chargers team, though it doesn't take much for me.
Speaker 3: No, it's good to see a healthy yer, justin Hepberg
Speaker 3: I go out there and play, you wonder about their
Speaker 3: availability on the outside, because.
Speaker 6: There was a point where now I'm blanking on.
Speaker 3: The Fojoko No, the rookie wide receiver out of he
Speaker 3: won two national championship.
Speaker 2: I ad McConkey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'slat mccauckey left the game against the Broncos, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are they gonna do? Like how many
Speaker 3: targets are going to funnel to Josh Palmer. But then
Speaker 3: Cammadie the Dell, the all time leading rusher at Troy University,
Speaker 3: gets out there, runs a wheel route, scores a touchdown.
Speaker 3: But the one thing that did concern me about that
Speaker 3: Chargers defense was how many rushing yards bo Knicks was
Speaker 3: piling up in the second half. And if you're gonna
Speaker 3: have a low scoring game, and you're gonna be playing
Speaker 3: against Kyler Murray, who is in a slump right now.
Speaker 3: That's gonna need to be something that you get figured out.
Speaker 3: And so we've seen this Arizona Cardinals defense kind of
Speaker 3: step up in stifled teams in this game. Being in Arizona,
Speaker 3: I might make one of those inexplicable picks where I
Speaker 3: picked the home dog and just fail miserably.
Speaker 6: I think I can make a pace for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chargers are three and two. They're in the
Speaker 1: middle of the pack for a reason. If the Cardinals
Speaker 1: lose this game and fall to two and five, kind
Speaker 1: of their their excitement level of this season goes down
Speaker 1: quite a bit, Like this is an important game for them.
Speaker 6: JK.
Speaker 2: Dobbins looked really good coming off of buy. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: I think you can tell with running backs when they
Speaker 1: they've had a week off that they they just look better.
Speaker 1: I just the thing I struggled with the most each
Speaker 1: and every week with the Cardinals is their overall talent
Speaker 1: on defense.
Speaker 2: I think it's the worst, the worst group in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Just maybe buy a decent amount, Like in terms of
Speaker 1: just if you lined up all the players.
Speaker 6: Who literally put them on point scale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just you drafted like all the defensive players
Speaker 1: in the league, like the Cardinals, like their players would
Speaker 1: get taken on average the latest and that's why and
Speaker 1: it's no shot to them, but that's why. It's the
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus game. We got a doubleheader again on Monday night,
Speaker 1: a little different though. This is the first it's an
Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern and nine pm Eastern start, but the
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus game is the second one.
Speaker 2: Just weird.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to point that out for people who
Speaker 1: are planning this. This is never I'm pretty sure this
Speaker 1: particular setup has never happened before. So this is the
Speaker 1: Orlovski and Riddick and Laura, Rutledge and Fouler crew, which
Speaker 1: I like that crew. I kind of like that crew,
Speaker 1: but that they'll be on ESPN Plus, be on my
Speaker 1: iPad while you got Bucks and Ravens on the main screens.
Speaker 3: As an NFL Android, Greg, I do want to stress
Speaker 3: that I love every decision that our beloved league mix, but.
Speaker 1: That one's probably up to ESPN, I guess. But yeah,
Speaker 1: in conjunction, it's all.
Speaker 6: Time I watch it.
Speaker 3: I watch games simultaneously like it's it's what I do
Speaker 3: bleep blooplourb But the thing I like about Prome time
Speaker 3: games is we're all watching the same game.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I just don't. I don't really,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Greg, I don't either. Just play
Speaker 1: if you're at ninth So they're playing at nine pm.
Speaker 1: That's got to be the latest start since they moved
Speaker 1: Monday night football back. Remember when Monday night football used
Speaker 1: to just be at nine to fifteen. Wasn't that just
Speaker 1: a thing? Which is crazy to think about when I
Speaker 1: was like a high school kid just trying to stay
Speaker 1: awake past midnight to watch these freaking games. So it's
Speaker 1: been the latest one in a while. If you're going
Speaker 1: to play a game at nine pm Eastern, just start
Speaker 1: the first one at six pm.
Speaker 2: I promise.
Speaker 1: Out here on the West Coast, we'll be watching at three.
Speaker 1: It's the NFL we'll be watching. Maybe it's not as many.
Speaker 3: Because somebody's gonna like, oh, we all are going to
Speaker 3: be a traffic. You were being traffic anyway, It's fine, yeah, good.
Speaker 3: I like the doubleheaders. I don't like him at the same.
Speaker 6: Leave us alone. I'm with you. We're in our cars.
Speaker 3: Let's get to our next matchup Miami at Indianapolis, who
Speaker 3: is a three point favorite. Ryan Kelly missing practice, We're
Speaker 3: not necessarily sure who they're going to be starting at
Speaker 3: running back. Tray Sermon dealing with his shoulder injury. They
Speaker 3: go and get Savon Ahmed in a potential revenge game
Speaker 3: against the Dolphins that perhaps tool list Dolphins. I don't
Speaker 3: know what to think about this game, Greg. The over
Speaker 3: under is forty three and a half points. Maybe Anthony
Speaker 3: Richardson's back, Maybe it's not Joe Flacco. A lot of maybes.
Speaker 3: Kevin Coogli or Daryl Johnson and Laura Oakman on the call.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, it is expected that Anthony Richardson will play
Speaker 1: in this game. He practiced fully on Wednesday, and the
Speaker 1: coaching staff is not giving away the answer. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you leaving some vagueness, but the reporting has said
Speaker 1: expectations from our insiders. Speaking of N Network insiders, Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor was on with Tom Pelisaro oh this week on
Speaker 1: The Insiders, and that made me think, like, oh, is
Speaker 1: he playing this week?
Speaker 2: Like why would he be on?
Speaker 1: And Pelisara did a Goodjeff asses yeah, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, would you put him in back in your
Speaker 1: Fantasy Libe and he said, I'm definitely feeling better this week,
Speaker 1: so I would just why is he doing shows if
Speaker 1: he's not going to play, So I would. I'm hopeful.
Speaker 1: And this team just doesn't make any sense without Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor to me, and actually Anthony Richards, it makes a
Speaker 1: lot less sense without Jonathan Taylor. They are they are
Speaker 1: a combo platter and they're a fun one. And this
Speaker 1: is a matchup against the Dolphins team which still doesn't
Speaker 1: have Bradley Chubb back. I think next week might be
Speaker 1: the week that we see Bradley Chubb on the field again.
Speaker 1: It's it's probably not going to be this week. This
Speaker 1: is kind of the the like bad teams with decent
Speaker 1: record Bowl like, oh okay, seasons can change. That's why
Speaker 1: we did that segment on Wednesday. Things will change. Both
Speaker 1: of these teams are candidates to actually be good like
Speaker 1: in December. It could happen, and they really haven't been
Speaker 1: good this part of the season. But the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: two and three, the Culture three and three, So to me,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a big game for the AFC playoff
Speaker 1: picture because they can just survive this portion of the
Speaker 1: schedule and then actually become as good as the record
Speaker 1: says they are.
Speaker 3: Eventually, we need an animation for like the bad teams
Speaker 3: with decent records.
Speaker 1: But I mean, the Dolphins might be the worst team
Speaker 1: in the NFL so far, but they're two and three.
Speaker 1: I guess they're better than the Patriots, for sure.
Speaker 6: They beat them. They did.
Speaker 2: It's Tyler Huntley for another week.
Speaker 6: It could have gone either way.
Speaker 3: I have confidence in Anthony Richardson mainly because he could
Speaker 3: be scattershot, but he could do that against a good defense.
Speaker 3: He could do that against a bad defense. Whether Bradley
Speaker 3: Chubb is there a lot. My main thing is whether
Speaker 3: it's Anthony Richardson or Joe Flacco. I'm looking every single
Speaker 3: week at Alec Pierce running down the field by himself,
Speaker 3: and we're late into the fourth quarter and Alec Pearce
Speaker 3: isn't seeing any targets in the ones that he does. Again,
Speaker 3: whether it's Flacco or Anthony Richardson, we don't necessarily know
Speaker 3: out where they're going, but I think he is such
Speaker 3: a deep threat in a game that could be low scoring,
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce can put one in the paint.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that to your point. He has averaged
Speaker 1: three targets per game over the last four weeks. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy talk.
Speaker 6: It's an error.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he burned Lagarious Need a couple times last week,
Speaker 1: but they just couldn't They couldn't connect on a win
Speaker 1: on a touchdown in that when Kalays Campbell just shout
Speaker 1: out to him playing so well, it's crazy. He's been one,
Speaker 1: weirdly one of the most underpaid players in the league
Speaker 1: last four years because every year he just signs like
Speaker 1: a one year contract as this older veteran and he
Speaker 1: provides like elite production and he's doing it again.
Speaker 2: Dolphins, Colts, Dolphins. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Dolphins are done yet, especially with
Speaker 1: two a tongue of ilo. If they could just scrape
Speaker 1: out this win, get to three and three Tua comes back,
Speaker 1: maybe they start playing better. We are going to take
Speaker 1: another break here on NFL Daily and we'll get to
Speaker 1: that other Monday night football game that I mentioned Ravens
Speaker 1: Bucks after the break. It's a different sort of week
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Great games. We got the NFL Networks
Speaker 1: Swan song in London this week, although we'll be back
Speaker 1: of course in Germany and some December games.
Speaker 2: But that's Chris Rose, our friend on a call up.
Speaker 6: That's kind of fun.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that game in a sec.
Speaker 1: But first, it's the prime Monday night game Ravens Bucks.
Speaker 3: It's the one that we've been waiting to see an
Speaker 3: MVP candidate again against an MVP candidate.
Speaker 2: Oh stop Baker.
Speaker 3: Mayfield and the Bucks playing host to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Three interceptions last week three and a.
Speaker 3: Half boy Favorites on Monday Night Football with Joe, Troy
Speaker 3: and Lisa on the call. Or you can watch the Mannings,
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Speaker 1: Check it out during the game on NFL Network, during
Speaker 1: any game, during any prime time game. Really you can
Speaker 1: check it out.
Speaker 2: I think yeah.
Speaker 1: At some point the network found out that instead of
Speaker 1: putting on like old Football Lives, if you just put
Speaker 1: up like a blank screen with with stats on it,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people watch it. It must be
Speaker 1: a second screen for a lot of people. Well, or
Speaker 1: who knows, they don't have. They don't have ESPN Plus
Speaker 1: and they want that station.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We love free ad supported television, which is our NFL
Speaker 3: Fast channel, free ad supported television, which as we used
Speaker 3: to call television. I have an air Android. So yeah,
Speaker 3: about this game, it was like get caught off on
Speaker 3: a tangent Baltimore so hot right now, Greg, One of
Speaker 3: the big surprises is just how well Rashad Bateman has
Speaker 3: played in recent weeks. Lamar Jackson gets Mark Andrews back
Speaker 3: in the fold last week against the Washington Commanders against
Speaker 3: now a Tampa Bay defense which has seen Baker throw
Speaker 3: three interceptions, but they still scored fifty one points. Gret
Speaker 3: a Tampa Bay running up and down the field as well.
Speaker 3: This one could be high scoring because this Ravens defense
Speaker 3: hasn't necessarily fixed all of the problems that they had
Speaker 3: earlier this year.
Speaker 1: Now they're a mediocre team against the pass. They're almost
Speaker 1: impossible to run again still, which happens year after year
Speaker 1: after year. It used to say that about the Buccaneers too,
Speaker 1: and they've improved in recent weeks, so maybe they're rounding
Speaker 1: into form for what you expect a Todd Bowles team.
Speaker 1: To be, and so then it's more about the passing game,
Speaker 1: and you certainly favor Lamar Jackson in that scenario, but
Speaker 1: the Bucks passing game has levels. Liam Cohen has been
Speaker 1: a really nice fit for Baker in mitigating some of
Speaker 1: his bad habits, getting the ball out quickly, Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: playing fantastic, and these these Ravens defensive backs just don't
Speaker 1: inspire a lot of confidence. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: hype about it, like a Marlin Humphy Humphrey revenge season.
Speaker 2: He's been fine.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been their issue, but Nate Wiggins seems like
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams is often involved in giving up big plays.
Speaker 1: When they had that lead against Washington last week, I
Speaker 1: kept saying on Sky Sports we were doing the game there,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, they're gonna keep giving up points,
Speaker 1: Like Jayden Daniels is not gonna make this easy on them.
Speaker 1: And so I think if the Ravens are playing, it's
Speaker 1: weird because I don't think they're a great team with
Speaker 1: the lead, just because I think their weakness on defense
Speaker 1: is giving up big plays in the secondary. So this
Speaker 1: is a game where I could see playing out in
Speaker 1: a similar sort of way. High scoring Ravens offense is
Speaker 1: the absolute best in the league. The Bucks don't have
Speaker 1: enough pass rush to really bother Lamar, but that Tampa
Speaker 1: keeps up and it gives us points and gives us
Speaker 1: a lot of fun on a Monday night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, point, your defense becomes Derrick Henry in the fourth quarter, because,
Speaker 3: as you pointed out, best offense, it's it's impossible to
Speaker 3: make the argument against that. The number one passing efficiency
Speaker 3: offense in the league, the number one rushing efficiency offense
Speaker 3: in the league, and the King being such a big
Speaker 3: part of that, where you know, the cliche about getting
Speaker 3: stronger as the game goes on and wearing defense is down.
Speaker 3: I really think it's more of Derek Henry can break
Speaker 3: one at any point, whether it's his first carry against
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills or whether it's late in the game
Speaker 3: as it was against the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 6: And then there's this.
Speaker 3: Kind of conflict that they have you in late where
Speaker 3: I'm watching that game with Rob Rivera, who was spectacular
Speaker 3: in the preview show with you a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Greg, Oh, thank you you were watching the game with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Ron in studio for Game Day Live
Speaker 3: on WOW and he's looking at that last play and says, well,
Speaker 3: the problem here is Lamar is going to pull this
Speaker 3: ball and run it for a first down while everybody's
Speaker 3: chasing Derrick Henry. Well, and behold, it happens for some
Speaker 3: reason Lamar stops running at the sideline and takes a shot,
Speaker 3: which I don't necessarily what. I wish you would stop
Speaker 3: doing that, But but he's got the Bucks defense in
Speaker 3: conflict there number twenty eight in rushing efficiency defense.
Speaker 6: Hmmm, still feel confident there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now those stats were mostly without Vietavea on the
Speaker 1: field or Colijah Cansi on the field. They were healthier,
Speaker 1: and I think you saw that. I know they had
Speaker 1: a bad quarter against Spencer Rattler there, but they have
Speaker 1: more playmakers now that Antoine Winfield is back to and
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the best way to stop Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You're you're most likely going to give up a lot
Speaker 1: of yards in a decent amount of points. But can
Speaker 1: you somehow turn Lamar over like a time or two,
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield. It'll be on them to do so. I
Speaker 1: still like the Ravens. I like the Ravens this week.
Speaker 1: I like the Ravens every week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Baker and companies score like they have been,
Speaker 3: maybe Lamar does the thing where he's holding onto the
Speaker 3: ball too long trying to score touchdowns and somebody gets
Speaker 3: a hand on one.
Speaker 6: Vita Via knocks one out. Let's get to a game.
Speaker 3: I know you're fired up for Greg because you just
Speaker 3: got back from across the Atlantic Ocean as well as
Speaker 3: the lower forty eight. Shout out to you for the
Speaker 3: distance traveled. The New England Patriots a five and a
Speaker 3: half point underdog against the team that has won one
Speaker 3: game in the Jacksonville Jaguars, because there are people like
Speaker 3: me who would insist on believing in them. The over
Speaker 3: under forty two and a half. Chris Rose, Joe Thomas,
Speaker 3: Steve Wise on the call, Rise, Shine and Watch on
Speaker 3: NFL Network, also available on NFL Plus. By the way,
Speaker 3: does Jacksonville get it figured out against your Pats?
Speaker 6: Bread?
Speaker 1: I've gotten back and forth on who I want to
Speaker 1: pick in this game. Five and a half's crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nuts. Jaguars are together such a bad team. You
Speaker 1: can't give them five and a half points even against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. But man, the Patriots are poorly coached on offense.
Speaker 1: I was more excited about Drake me until I went
Speaker 1: back and watched the entire game plan and it's just
Speaker 1: not cohesive. I don't know if they're well coached. They're
Speaker 1: certain he's certainly not well protected. He did some things
Speaker 1: individual that we're exciting. And you look at the next
Speaker 1: gen stats for this matchup, and on balance, the Jaguars
Speaker 1: pass defense is the absolute worst in the league, and
Speaker 1: you could see it in that matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I was there for it.
Speaker 1: Just a lot of confusion, a lot of guys looking
Speaker 1: at each other after the play. So if ever Drake
Speaker 1: May and this passing attack was gonna get it going consistently,
Speaker 1: it would be in this matchup. And that's why I
Speaker 1: think it'll go down to the wire. It May gives
Speaker 1: us game a little bit more juice. I know Chris
Speaker 1: Rose was asking about it in the film room a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. When do you think they're gonna
Speaker 1: go to May? Greg, I was like, I bet by
Speaker 1: the time you're doing that game. And then I was
Speaker 1: in London with Steve Weiss last week and we're talking
Speaker 1: about and he's like he was excited that Drake May
Speaker 1: is in this game because you just like watching good
Speaker 1: quarterback play. And Trevor Lawrence has not been consistent this year.
Speaker 1: But if there's a slumpbuster out there, it's the Patriots defense.
Speaker 1: They are one of the worst in the league too.
Speaker 3: But you were there, Greg, Was that not the best
Speaker 3: game Trevor Lawrence had played all season?
Speaker 2: Second best.
Speaker 1: I think he's played his two best in a row
Speaker 1: Colts game. He was really sharp this game. Once you're
Speaker 1: time once or twice, I think he passed up on
Speaker 1: guys that were there, So maybe that doesn't show up
Speaker 1: in the box score, but like they were there and
Speaker 1: I think the progression would have taken them there and
Speaker 1: then he just doesn't throw it.
Speaker 2: But he did.
Speaker 1: He played fine in that game. If Lawrence played like
Speaker 1: he did the last two weeks all season, no one
Speaker 1: would be complaining about him.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And the Bears were eventually in a point where they
Speaker 3: had to decide to stop running up the score. But
Speaker 3: there was a point in that game in London where
Speaker 3: it's a one score game. The Jags defense has a
Speaker 3: third and eight penalty first down, They get another third
Speaker 3: and fifteen penalty first down, and then it happens again.
Speaker 6: It happened three times on the drive over d This.
Speaker 3: Team will when things are going right, something will go wrong.
Speaker 3: And I just don't know how I can keep saying
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. But also how can I say that
Speaker 3: that's not going to happen when I pick this team
Speaker 3: and they keep doing well.
Speaker 1: Imagine being a Jaguars fan or AA the owner of
Speaker 1: the Jaguars shod con watching this. Ollie Connolly, I think,
Speaker 1: made a good point that I did not notice at
Speaker 1: the game. I was on the other sideline, so there's
Speaker 1: no way I could have seen this that He's never
Speaker 1: seen a more disconsolate, bad vibes not talking to each
Speaker 1: other's sideline in the NFL or in any level of
Speaker 1: football than this Jaguars team. So I don't want to
Speaker 1: overrate vibes, but something's wrong with Jacksonville and which when
Speaker 1: I when I started thinking about that, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Patriots can at least win this game.
Speaker 2: But man, there people aren't people aren't happy there.
Speaker 1: The defensive players aren't happy, like even they're good, players
Speaker 1: like Keon White are kind of getting criticized because he's
Speaker 1: playing out of structure. They just seem extremely undisciplined on defense.
Speaker 1: So even the things that you expected would be okay,
Speaker 1: being on their p's and q's, they're not getting it done.
Speaker 1: And I saw Greg Bard, who I really respect, said
Speaker 1: people are kind of missing in the Drake May excitement
Speaker 1: in Boston the forest for the trees that this team
Speaker 1: is so poorly run right now. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I the forest is that they have a quarterback to
Speaker 1: that's He's the only thing that matters for this entire season.
Speaker 1: But I also see what he's saying that if this
Speaker 1: coaching staff and this structure is not gonna be competent,
Speaker 1: then they're gonna waste a couple of years of Drake
Speaker 1: May's career, and so that I'm hoping that that can
Speaker 1: improve over the course of the season. I know they're
Speaker 1: not gonna win many games, but if they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a game, this would be one of them.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If he's a tree in the forest, it's the tree
Speaker 3: of life. He's like the central figure. When he wasn't pressured,
Speaker 3: he was twelve of eighteen for three touchdowns. If you're
Speaker 3: looking for good news, wow, in New England, that's pretty
Speaker 3: good for it. Yeah, he had a pick, but hey,
Speaker 3: three touchdowns. That's why we go with the ratio because.
Speaker 1: It's very watchable, very exciting young player. So that makes
Speaker 1: me excited. I'm excited to hear Chris and Joe and
Speaker 1: Steve on the call.
Speaker 6: They're great. And speaking of Joe Thomas and Chris Rose.
Speaker 3: By the way, the Cleveland Browns playing host to the
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bank who are a six point favorite. The Cleveland
Speaker 3: Browns get back in a great work in the Player's Tribune.
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb saying he has unfinished business in Cleveland, feels
Speaker 3: he owes it to the city.
Speaker 6: I think maybe the city might ow link Chubb a
Speaker 6: little bit. It's a it's a rough spot.
Speaker 3: They just trade Amari Cooper, They're still starting Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 3: Greg Cincinnati's defense lu and Romo Squat looked a lot
Speaker 3: better against Dimes.
Speaker 6: How does how does Cleveland score points here?
Speaker 2: That Nick Chubb just does something?
Speaker 6: I hope it does. That's just I hope so like the.
Speaker 1: Football gods giving us and him and Browns fans something to.
Speaker 2: Hold on to, something to cheer about.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you pointed out that article, which I read.
Speaker 1: It was getting a little misty at the breakfast table
Speaker 1: here at my house. How how cool for in an
Speaker 1: organ and the fans don't deserve what's happened during this
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson era. No, and Nick Chubb certainly doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: to be playing on an offense this putrid where Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson has taken in terms of sacks thirty one sacks
Speaker 1: this year, the worst EPA on sacks through six weeks
Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen. So they are just losing. He's just
Speaker 1: putting them in such a bad spot. And part of
Speaker 1: that is absolutely the offensive line. More of it, I believe,
Speaker 1: is Watson and the Bengals coming off their best game
Speaker 1: of the year where maybe Hubbard is healthy again and
Speaker 1: they just looked a little more dynamic.
Speaker 2: They're certainly healthier again.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that the Browns offense is going to
Speaker 1: get anything done, But reading that article just made me
Speaker 1: root for like a magical Nick Chubb game and him
Speaker 1: just doing something crazy, and that's unfair to expect, but
Speaker 1: who knows. The matchup is not a bad one against
Speaker 1: the Bengals in general that maybe you can return to
Speaker 1: what made this Browns team great under Kevin Stefanski offensively,
Speaker 1: which was running the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two of the best pass rushers in the game
Speaker 3: in terms of pressure share, Miles Garrett thirty one point
Speaker 3: three percent. Hendrickson Trey Hendrickson is actually a thirty one
Speaker 3: point eight percent as well. And you know between Miles
Speaker 3: and Nick Chubb. Yeah, Brown Browns offense, please get it
Speaker 3: figured out.
Speaker 1: I will say the Browns have owned this rivalry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: owned it in the Zach Taylor era. Even last year.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the Bengals did get them back in
Speaker 1: the in the rematch if I'm remembering right.
Speaker 2: I should not just count of my memory.
Speaker 1: But I remember the Monday Night game where the Bengals
Speaker 1: were rolling coming into that and the Browns just absolutely
Speaker 1: stomped him a year ago. And there is something to
Speaker 1: say about that that when you have the same coaches
Speaker 1: and they're matching up over and over and you keep
Speaker 1: getting similar results, it is a rare case where past
Speaker 1: results can indicate, you know, future results. And so I
Speaker 1: think the Browns probably feel a little more comfortable in
Speaker 1: this matchup than they should. Six points, you know, for
Speaker 1: a Bengals team that's two and four is a lot
Speaker 1: against a pretty good defense that the Browns can throw
Speaker 1: out there coming off a good game, you know, against
Speaker 1: the Eagles.
Speaker 3: The one spot though, where Jim Jim's defense is it
Speaker 3: feels a little bit different, is all of these explosive
Speaker 3: plays they've They've allowed the sixth highest rate of explosives
Speaker 3: on the ground, the third most yards due to misstackles.
Speaker 3: And so in comes Jamar Chase, who in the past
Speaker 3: four weeks is, Oh, yeah, that's that's still Jamar Chase.
Speaker 6: It's still Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3: And in the Bengals offense, we don't have any problems
Speaker 3: with It's it's really the defense and looking over did
Speaker 3: they get things figured out? I I'm looking for a reason,
Speaker 3: and the only the only thing I can hang my
Speaker 3: hat on is Nick Chubb has a has a crazy
Speaker 3: emotional game. Everybody's going nuts at the dog pound there
Speaker 3: and Miles Garrett blocks a couple of field goals or something.
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's it's tough to see anything else.
Speaker 1: By the way, my mind is so stuck in jet
Speaker 1: lag that I was thinking of a Monday and I
Speaker 1: gave him two years ago. Did that big game exists
Speaker 1: last year? Although they did split the two matchups, including
Speaker 1: I remember just an ugly performance by Burrow in Week
Speaker 1: one a year ago twenty three.
Speaker 3: The years, the years combined, but it's it's all within
Speaker 3: the beautiful mind of one Greg Wild. Now, the Las
Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders making a trip to their former home to
Speaker 3: take on the Los Angeles Rams, who are a seven
Speaker 3: point favorite. Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, and Melanie Collins on
Speaker 3: the call, The over under is forty three and a half.
Speaker 6: Greg, it is basically the.
Speaker 3: Entire plane has been constructed out of rock bowers at
Speaker 3: this point, with AOC throwing passes in the Rams coming
Speaker 3: off of bye.
Speaker 6: The bye is why they're favored by seven.
Speaker 1: Right, That is so disheartening if you're a Raiders fan
Speaker 1: or new owner like Tom Brady, You're a seven point
Speaker 1: underdog against a Rams team that's won one game, and
Speaker 1: that that is like, it's not like it was a
Speaker 1: fun game though, Greg, it was, and they've been competitive
Speaker 1: in others and they have a top ten quarterback in
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, so it is not a normal team that
Speaker 1: has only won one game. But that is absolutely brutal.
Speaker 1: We don't know if Cooper Cup is gonna play in
Speaker 1: this game. I heard Monday was an important day for him,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how much he really works, So
Speaker 1: my guess would be it might be a little longer
Speaker 1: before we see him, and certainly Pukinakua is not going
Speaker 1: to be back for this game yet. And it's a
Speaker 1: big game because the Rams don't have many games on
Speaker 1: the schedule where they like should win and if they're
Speaker 1: going to get back into the mix.
Speaker 2: They were three and six last year before they made
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 3: This is a game year we're going, Yeah, they go
Speaker 3: on a run here and I'm I'm excited for Jared
Speaker 3: Verse and this one. I know Colton Miller has been
Speaker 3: playing well at tackle, but now he's in an absolute
Speaker 3: impossible spot because a fun aid and O'Connell fact, he
Speaker 3: has not attempted a single scramble rush on any of
Speaker 3: his four hundred and forty two dropbacks since entering the NFL.
Speaker 2: Greg That is crazy. Not a quick not a quick mover.
Speaker 6: He's literally not.
Speaker 3: It's like while we critique a forty year old playing
Speaker 3: in New York for not getting away from se A
Speaker 3: and O'Connell is not running.
Speaker 6: He is not going to leave.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about this Rams defensive line and the way
Speaker 3: that they've been able to get pressure this season, especially
Speaker 3: Jared verse. I think it's gonna be tough. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: going I'm going more than seven. Wow, particular pick, I
Speaker 3: just don't have the confidence because I think the world
Speaker 3: of Rock powers and I love the way that they've
Speaker 3: had him out there essentially playing wide receiver because he
Speaker 3: can do that wide receiver, tight end.
Speaker 6: He's that good of a football player.
Speaker 3: But to have a team on his back in this
Speaker 3: particular situation, I just don't believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson powers. Johnson is a rookie offensive lineman for
Speaker 1: them has been struggling. So I think they thought their
Speaker 1: offensive line was going to be a strength, and it's
Speaker 1: it's been up and down. They certainly haven't been able
Speaker 1: to run the ball consistently enough. It was interesting to
Speaker 1: me Mark Davis tried to squash the Max Crosby rumors.
Speaker 1: And there have been rumors. I'm just saying, like in
Speaker 1: the little you know, like the text and whatnot.
Speaker 6: Like the GM.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't know about the GM group chat,
Speaker 1: but I think people have been calling and maybe not
Speaker 1: you know, been wondering whether Max Crosby would be available
Speaker 1: or not, and maybe not get getting clear answers about that.
Speaker 1: Mark Davis seemed to squash that at the owners meeting,
Speaker 1: and he better because if you're trading Max Crosby, I
Speaker 1: just think you're gonna lose, Like, who are you? You're
Speaker 1: gonna lose the fans that you have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the point in player acquisition? You want to
Speaker 3: get something that nobody else has and then you want
Speaker 3: to keep that thing. The thing that they need to
Speaker 3: avoid is maybe have nobody ask Max Crosby about this
Speaker 3: while he's frustrated. You don't want to end up with
Speaker 3: another trade request. Yeah, just kind of trying to facilitate,
Speaker 3: make everything as comfortable as possible, but also win games. Yes,
Speaker 3: I know Max doesn't want to be out there playing
Speaker 3: every single play, playing through the things that he's had
Speaker 3: to play through.
Speaker 6: While they're consistently bad.
Speaker 1: It's a winnable game for them, even though the Rams
Speaker 1: are seven point favorites. Maybe this is the game I
Speaker 1: should have tried to take my family too, But it's
Speaker 1: on a Sunday. It's kind of tricky with taping NFL daily,
Speaker 1: So we are making it to the Thursday night Vikings
Speaker 1: Rams game. We're gonna take one quick break and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up with the last few games.
Speaker 2: Here on our Week seven.
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, and yeah, we haven't made a
Speaker 1: survivor pick this week, so we've only got a couple
Speaker 1: games left with which they choose.
Speaker 3: I guess when we finish one of the Presco everybody listening,
Speaker 3: we'll know the results and how that turns out. Let's
Speaker 3: find out Carolina at Washington, who is an eight point
Speaker 3: home favorite where the folks believe and they should the
Speaker 3: over under fifty one and a half. You should also
Speaker 3: believe in that grit because Jayden Daniels in this offense
Speaker 3: is roaring the defense. We'll see, we'll probably get a
Speaker 3: good litmus test with just Andy Dalton, who is the
Speaker 3: litmus test again fifty one and a half Ian Eagle,
Speaker 3: Charles Davis Evan Washburn on the call. The Carolina Panthers
Speaker 3: were in that game against the Atlanta Falcons. Both of
Speaker 3: these teams had losses last week, but the vibe advantage
Speaker 3: obviously going by way of our nations CAUP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, when you're the Commanders and you're playing
Speaker 1: a dead on arrival Panthers team and you're still getting
Speaker 1: Charles Davis in the building, that shows that Jayde and
Speaker 1: Daniels has some.
Speaker 2: Star power here.
Speaker 1: It's true, like that's the number two CBS crew and
Speaker 1: basically everyone's in on watching jayde Daniels every week.
Speaker 2: It's the best show in the league.
Speaker 1: He somehow I got played better against the Ravens than
Speaker 1: in some of his big splash games because they really
Speaker 1: forced him to win by going to his second read,
Speaker 1: by having to stay in the pocket, and wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge factor on the ground, wasn't necessarily hitting those big
Speaker 1: plays down the field, and yet he was extremely efficient
Speaker 1: and effective. And the Panthers are that defense week after
Speaker 1: week that you're like, is this running game actually good
Speaker 1: or did they just play the Panthers? And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: you figure they could put up forty spot here in
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, confident there j C. Horn playing good football.
Speaker 3: I not enough to make me confident in the one
Speaker 3: in five Carolina Panthers. I do start to wonder, at
Speaker 3: what point does it become pointless and we don't just
Speaker 3: get Bryce back in to see how things are gonna look.
Speaker 6: But I guess it's it's one of those things.
Speaker 3: And also an eye on Brian Robertson Junior, specifically for
Speaker 3: fantasy purposes, because as you mentioned, this Carolina Panthers defense
Speaker 3: has been amenable to opposing running backs and so if
Speaker 3: there's no Brian Robertson Jr. Could get maximum Austin Eckler,
Speaker 3: who I think gives this offense a different dimension and
Speaker 3: it makes it it makes it kind of fun, especially
Speaker 3: with the way Jaden is playing kind of interesting. He
Speaker 3: essentially becomes like a receiver to type volume there when
Speaker 3: he's when he's in the game. So, yeah, this one, this,
Speaker 3: I mean, this is just all the rookie quarterback. It's
Speaker 3: tough to talk about anything.
Speaker 1: Well, and you can talk about Terry McLaurin, who is
Speaker 1: just has a different profile. Next ten Stats noted that
Speaker 1: you know he's run a post, a corner, go or
Speaker 1: a wheel, which are the routes down the field of
Speaker 1: vertical routes on forty two percent of its route. So
Speaker 1: it's like he's going deep down the field more often
Speaker 1: than he has since he was a rookie, when it
Speaker 1: was just kind of bombs away to Terry. Do you
Speaker 1: wouldn't think the Panthers are really going to have many answers,
Speaker 1: And yeah, they're this weird spot where Andy Dalton made
Speaker 1: them significantly better and he continues to play at a
Speaker 1: fairly high level week after week. But it's also like,
Speaker 1: what is the point of this entire franchise right now?
Speaker 3: He's gotten them so much better that they've climbed all
Speaker 3: the way up to dead last and point differentially where
Speaker 3: they are negative one hundred.
Speaker 1: Well, this was by design. They spent all their money
Speaker 1: on offense this offseason. They got rid of all their
Speaker 1: good defensive players. They also had a couple injuries on defense,
Speaker 1: but they basically decided we're going to be bad on
Speaker 1: defense to try to help evaluate Bryce Young. But then
Speaker 1: he only lasted two games before they made their evaluation.
Speaker 1: And now they're just with this like twenty second in
Speaker 1: the league offense and one of the worst defenses. It's
Speaker 1: just it's tough, But these are the types of games Washington.
Speaker 1: Everything is first for them. They have to prove as
Speaker 1: they get through the season like that they can keep
Speaker 1: passing these sort of tests, and if they do, they're
Speaker 1: the favorites to win the division, which is wild.
Speaker 3: And they'll get to that Cliff Kingsbury week seven to
Speaker 3: eight to nine type fall off where people are going
Speaker 3: to be charting that and I'm people in that leading
Speaker 3: us to our final game, the Tennessee Titans at the
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, who are a nine point favorite. Nine also
Speaker 3: coincidentally the jersey number of one Amari Cooper when he
Speaker 3: played his college football at the University of Alabama. He
Speaker 3: is now a Buffalo Bill. The over under forty one.
Speaker 3: Andrew Catalan, Tiki Barber, and Jason mccordy on the call
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans shout off to Tony.
Speaker 6: Pollard, He's been good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking for good stuff anywhere else and it's
Speaker 3: hard to find it.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not there.
Speaker 1: In the passing game, Brian Callahan just seems so frustrated
Speaker 1: with Will Levis. You do wonder when Mason Rudolph is
Speaker 1: gonna come into the mix. I think it's gonna happen
Speaker 1: at some point. Calvin Ridley's upset DeAndre Hopkins would be
Speaker 1: an interesting trade candidate potentially for the team. The defense
Speaker 1: has been disappointing that at least in terms of their
Speaker 1: pass defense the last couple of weeks, like just not
Speaker 1: bigger than the summer of their parts the Titans defense.
Speaker 1: And so you play a Bill's offense that Daddy and
Speaker 1: Murray Cooper kind of solves their one issue that they have,
Speaker 1: but it was a dynamic Bill's offense to begin with.
Speaker 1: I think they're one of the few teams that can
Speaker 1: actually line up against Tennessee just kind of man for man,
Speaker 1: add that sixth offensive lineman like they do, and still
Speaker 1: be able to do what they do, not get pushed
Speaker 1: around by Jeffrey Simmons in that front where the Titans
Speaker 1: are so good and still be able to run the
Speaker 1: ball when they need to. We'll see if James Cook
Speaker 1: is back for this game for the Bills.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Ray Davis added a dynamic type
Speaker 3: level to this Bill's offense. My question for Joe Brady
Speaker 3: was where did Ray Davis go Like in the middle
Speaker 3: of that game, they kind of went away from the
Speaker 3: run game after it was so dominant in the start.
Speaker 3: Eventually he gets back as a huge eight yard run
Speaker 3: in the third quarter to convert a crucial first down.
Speaker 3: But I'm watching just how well Greg Russo and aj
Speaker 3: Epanessa played against the Jets. And I know the Jets
Speaker 3: offensive line is nothing compared to the Tennessee Titans offensive line,
Speaker 3: but we're still seeing Will Levis where Calvin Ridley is
Speaker 3: being used like as a deep threat, but then like
Speaker 3: it's kind of late garbage time situation.
Speaker 2: He's getting mad about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's understandable, Like I'm glad that he cares, but
Speaker 3: it's just a very frustrating thing. It's hard for me
Speaker 3: to consider a way that the Titans win this game,
Speaker 3: which is why I'm going into the jungle Gret.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, okay, fishing for you.
Speaker 3: Yes that after a week off we make the Buffalo
Speaker 3: Bills are survival.
Speaker 1: It's the sloppiest segment known to man. At first we lost, initially,
Speaker 1: we came back. Yeah, I don't know. I was in
Speaker 1: the UK and it just slipped my mind. But yes,
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Bills in this game. It's
Speaker 1: a week where yeah, they're missing von Miller while he's
Speaker 1: on suspension, and they've had some injuries there see about
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver. But they can get it done against this
Speaker 1: offensive winning My.
Speaker 6: Only kids at my guard.
Speaker 3: My big season long concern for the Bills is athleticism
Speaker 3: in the secondary. I feel like that there was kind
Speaker 3: of an opportunity for them to get exposed, like especially
Speaker 3: with Garrett Wilson, Like their their ability to deal with
Speaker 3: wide receiver ones when the quarterback is protected. I'm concerned
Speaker 3: about that, but I do like Amari helps the offense
Speaker 3: because like when you're relying on you know, shout out
Speaker 3: to all of mccollins production, right, but mc collins the
Speaker 3: win at the lone of scrimmage, adding adding Amory really helps.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: How about Tarron Johnson coming back and that matters a lot.
Speaker 1: And then one thing I thought was interesting was Taylor
Speaker 1: Rapp had a couple of big time hits in that
Speaker 1: game coming back from a concussion, and he was wearing
Speaker 1: the Guardian cap because he came back very soon after
Speaker 1: the concussion. And one of those hits which has potentially
Speaker 1: won the game for them, Yeah, the one I couldn't
Speaker 1: help but think like he could have had a concussion
Speaker 1: on that play, but he was wearing the Guardian cap,
Speaker 1: and it does.
Speaker 2: It's all just making me wonder like.
Speaker 1: If we're if we're if we actually care, we don't
Speaker 1: really care that much about concussions, because then you just
Speaker 1: everyone would just wear the guarding cap.
Speaker 2: It's a weird way to end the show, but it's.
Speaker 1: Just like Taylor rap Is like, now I actually do
Speaker 1: want to protect my head, so I'm gonna wear it,
Speaker 1: and and it does because I'm coming off of a concussion.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just something to think long term
Speaker 1: that I think eventually everyone's going to be wearing these
Speaker 1: things and we're in this weird in between that I'm
Speaker 1: very conscious of that it's in the in between.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's all.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll get data back and says that you know
Speaker 3: that this does and help. But I don't think it's
Speaker 3: a weird way to end the show because like these
Speaker 3: these guys, it.
Speaker 1: Really struck me with It really struck me with Taylor
Speaker 1: Rapp last week, and it's on my mind too. A
Speaker 1: two A tongue bye was going to be coming back.
Speaker 1: I'm curious he'll be wearing it. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if he was. And yes, Amari Cooper's debut with the Bills.
Speaker 1: Patrick doesn't like this kind of analysis, but I actually
Speaker 1: think maybe Amari Cooper will be trying just like a
Speaker 1: little bit harder this week now that he's on a
Speaker 1: good team where a quarterback can actually feed him the
Speaker 1: ball in the right spot.
Speaker 6: The second party, second part, we agree.
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