1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Is this Lyle? Yes? 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Who is this. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Hid Lyle? 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: My name is Goldie, Goldie. What's going on, Goldie? How's life? Oh? 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: Man, I'm actually I'm crying right now, but so not 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: the greatest at the moment. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: You're quiet? Why are you? Why are you crying? 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: It's kind of silly. But so I'm an avid Twitch watcher, Okay, 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I love to watch Twitch streams, and uh, I've actually 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: been watching you for probably like two or three years now. Cool, 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: So I'm a very big fan. I love your stream, dude. 12 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: But but uh, yeah, I'm actually crying because another person 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: that I watch on here? Can you just ban me? Yeah? Yeah, 14 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: from his Twitter community because actually, as it turns out, 15 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm already banned on Twitch, so I can't actually chat, 16 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: but I do listen, right, Okay, yeah, so but I 17 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I just got banned from his Twitter community and I'm 18 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: crying about it. 19 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's well let's talk this through. Well, 20 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: first of all, why why did you Why do you 21 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: think you got banns? 22 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: So I have a lot to say. I'm kind of 23 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I kind of talk too much, I guess, and I 24 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of say some outlandish things sometimes, and I think 25 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: that he did not want me kind of speaking over 26 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: him in his chat. 27 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: Okay, is this as like a small streamer. 28 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: Usually about like six hundred viewers a stream he has? 29 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, I mean let's reverse engineer this 30 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: in a few ways, because why are you why are 31 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: you spending so much time talking in this guy's chat? 32 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they sometimes they call me a parasocial okay, 33 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm not exactly one hundred percent sure what 34 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: that means, but I think it's. 35 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: Like, like I where I believe that I'm closer to 36 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: him than I really am. 37 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 38 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: A parasolic relationship is like a relationship that you form, 39 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: is like a one sided relationship you form with someone 40 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: that you don't know. 41 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's definitely what I'm kind of doing. I 42 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: don't really have many Actually I don't have any friends 43 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: in real life. 44 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: Oh. 45 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I kind of use twitch as a platform where I 46 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: can connect with people since I don't really have a 47 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: way to do that in real life. 48 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Okay, why do you feel like you don't have any friends? 49 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a single mom, though I kind of lost 50 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: most of my friends after becoming a mom. 51 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 2: And then. 52 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I never made any new ones after I lost all 53 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: my friends. 54 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: Where were your friends from? Like? Where or were they 55 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: from like high school? 56 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 57 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: Mostly? 58 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Uh, high school. I never really had many friends, but 59 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: the few of them that I had were from school. 60 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 61 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: M you know, I'm not fully opposed to using online 62 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: communities to make friends. I'm not fully opposed to it. 63 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: I think that Well, Like when I first was twitch streaming, 64 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: I was a little worried about parasocial relationships. I was 65 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: worried that people were like finding you know, I mean, 66 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: I don't think parasocial relationships are are They kind of 67 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: depend on intensity. I mean I have parasocial relationships with 68 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: people that I, you know, listen to a lot or 69 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: watch a lot, you know, I've you know, kind of 70 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: form ideas of who they are, and you know, they 71 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: they maybe uh their work speaks to me in ways 72 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: that make me feel very understood. But I don't I 73 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: don't ever, I don't let that go to to a 74 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: place where I like feel like they're you know, I 75 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: maybe have a reverence for their work and what they 76 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: have to say and whatnot. By I don't let that 77 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: cross into a territory of like they are part of 78 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: my social life in any way, shape or form. And 79 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: I was kind of worried about that when I first 80 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: started streaming, But then I I noticed on Discord and 81 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: even like in my twitch chat that people independent of 82 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: me were like making friends with each other, and that 83 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: became those became like, those weren't parasocial relationships. Those were 84 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: real uh you know, albeit online, but they were They 85 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: were real relationships that people formed with each other, and 86 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: I thought that was cool. And I'm not against that 87 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: because I've actually seen a lot of situations both you know, 88 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: in my Gecko universe and in like anecdotally in real 89 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: life where people have relationships like that that turn into 90 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: like real friendships. And I'm not I'm not opposed to that. 91 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: I'm opposed to like I'm opposed to like like making 92 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: friends with an AI chatbot or trying to feel like 93 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: a streamer is like your friends. But I I the 94 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: the space between of like, you know, I chat with 95 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: this person who lives in uh, Wisconsin, and I'm in 96 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Florida or whatever. I don't think that that's all that bad. 97 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: And if that's where your life is and that's where 98 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: your comfortability is and that's where you need to start, 99 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the worst thing in the world. 100 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: But I guess ultimately you'd want to form a forign 101 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: friendships in real life. And it's I get why it's 102 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: I get why it's hard for you as a as 103 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: a single mom. You know, it's a lot of responsibility. 104 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: Is there a kid? Yes, By the way, you sound 105 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: like you're you sound like, uh, you sound like you're 106 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: out in Are you out in public somewhere? 107 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: No, I'm actually in my room. I'm pacing back and 108 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: forth in my room right now, and my little baby 109 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: just came in here and he wants me now, So I'm. 110 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: Like, okay. 111 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: But but about what you were saying is, yeah, like 112 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: the thing about the parasocial relationships is like there's no 113 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: form of like, uh the what's that word recipprosity? Yes, yeah, 114 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: so there's no Really, I'm not really getting anything out 115 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: of these relationships of course, other than you know, it's 116 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: kind of like an imaginary relationship in a way. So 117 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I definitely wish that I could find friends in real life. 118 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like kind of like an awkward person, So 119 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't really know. 120 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: How to do that. 121 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: Well, you can find friends in real life even if 122 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: you're an awkward person. You, I really do you can 123 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: find friends in real life being exactly as you are, 124 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: because I don't like I think like real friendship is 125 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: mostly this is like really boring. But most friendship is 126 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: truthfully more about repeated exposure than it is about any 127 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: form of It's repeated exposure with like a little bit 128 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: of compatibility, but I think it's mainly about repeated exposure 129 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: than it is compatibility. And if you're awkward, but you 130 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: have repeated exposure with like the same group of people, 131 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: you'll be you'll start to you'll be less awkward because 132 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: you get more comfortable with them because of that repeated exposure. 133 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: So it's like, well, where do you get that repeated 134 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: exposure is the main question. And it's hard for you 135 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: because you got to you got a lot going on, 136 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, it's possible, And it's possible to do 137 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: it online too. Like when you were in this guy's 138 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: Twitch community, were you were you just like sending our 139 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: messages to the void or were you talking to other people. 140 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Mostly like I would. I would interact with the other 141 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: chatters once in a while, but I would mainly comment 142 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: on his stream and what he was doing, sometimes say 143 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: like jokes here and there. The guy that I was watching, 144 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: he kind of felt like the things that I would 145 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: say were me trying to like outshine him in a way, 146 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: I think, and he, I guess he wanted to, uh 147 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: basically had more control over his community and what was 148 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: being said in his chat. And I don't know, maybe 149 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: he just got the wrong idea about me. But yeah, 150 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: sorry if it doesn't make any sense. 151 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: No, it it makes perfect sense. But I don't think 152 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: but it's I don't think it's the thing to be 153 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: focused on, right because well, I mean what I what 154 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: I want to see, what I'd like to see for 155 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: you is to uh build up a better like social life, 156 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: whether it's on the internet with other real people or 157 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: with real people in real life, but less of this 158 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: thing of you know, where it's you and like a streamer. 159 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, definitely. 160 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: And it's one thing if you like what they have 161 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: to say and you like having them as background noise, 162 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, because I I have there's people that you know, 163 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: I listened to Stavros' podcast all the time. I listen 164 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: to a lot of different podcasts that I have on 165 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: and ship and you know, but like I don't you know, 166 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: but you got to have like a healthy, like, uh, 167 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: real social life. Have you made any have you made 168 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: any attempts to do that or like what would those 169 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: and what have those attempts looked like? 170 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Not? Actually, not at all recently, like I would say, 171 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: probably within the past couple years or so. Like, I 172 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: haven't really tried to go out of my shell when 173 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: I when I'm in public, which is usually like the 174 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: grocery store, I avoid eye contact with everyone and I 175 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: just kind of go in and get out as fast 176 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: as I can. So I I don't really leave that 177 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: open for opportunity. 178 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: Well, are there areas in which you would feel more comfortable? 179 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: Like what are your what are your hobbies? What do 180 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: you like to do? 181 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: Uh? 182 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 183 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: I like to draw, and I like to paint, and 184 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: I do word searches every now and then. But I 185 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: don't imagine that the word search community is easy to find. 186 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: Sure, we could find the word search community the fucking 187 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: probably plenty of any anything that you would do, there's 188 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: like a discord of people who are also doing it. 189 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so. 190 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: Hmmm, I think that you should definitely go out in 191 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: search of like online communities that are related to what 192 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: you like. To do. How's being a mom? 193 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's amazing because my kids really just like 194 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: bring joy and just love and light to my life, 195 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: and my whole world revolves around them, which has its 196 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: pros and cons. But and there, my kid's dad is 197 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: not in the picture, but he definitely tries to be. 198 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: And our relationship was not the greatest, so it's kind 199 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: of rough because I have to see him and uh, 200 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: he kind of left, like left me in a dark place, 201 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: and he's kind of like controlling. So it's it has 202 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: its pros and cons, but I would say it has 203 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: mostly pros. 204 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: M Hm. 205 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: Why why is your guys' relationship strained? 206 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Well, he's just he's always been very controlling and manipulative, 207 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: and I'm uh, I don't I honestly don't even really 208 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: know how to put it because. 209 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: He just. 210 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: Ye for a while, he would try to make me 211 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: feel like I was crazy and and anything. Anytime I 212 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: try to come forward about anything that he does wrong, 213 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: he shuts me down completely. So I don't even really 214 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: know how to describe it. 215 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 216 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it goes pretty deep, which probably didn't need 217 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: real therapy for. 218 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: But what's your what's your your kid sounds like he's 219 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: running around ding a bunch of stuff in the background. 220 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Was he up? 221 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: Was he? 222 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: What's he doing right now? 223 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: My bed is just covered and I was cleaning my kitchen, 224 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: so I took everything off the top of the microwave 225 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: and put it on my bed. And now they're just 226 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: going through that all that. I actually have a little 227 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: baby and an older four year old, so they're just 228 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: going through everything right now. But it's okay, man. 229 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: So you're juggling with fucking two kids. Are you you 230 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: live do you Is it just you and the two 231 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: kids or do you live with your folks? Oh? 232 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: No, it's just us, just me, boys and. 233 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: My cat man. You're holding you're holding that fucking ship down, dude. 234 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: Thanks man. I try my best. 235 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: That's hard, that's that's really that's tough doing that. And 236 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: what do you work? 237 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: I do not at the moment. I am looking for 238 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: a job. I actually applied at the hospital near me 239 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: to do like like you know, the people that bring 240 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: you your food at the hospital. Yeah, I applied to 241 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: do that and then I got denied. So try a 242 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: different angle. 243 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, goldie, goldie, Goldie. Damn, you're holding that fucking 244 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: ship down, Goldie. I respect you, I really do. I 245 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: respect you. This is you're holding You're holding out a 246 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: lot of ship dude. I want you know, and I'm 247 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: not I really I don't want to say this as 248 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: a way of uh, I'm not trying to be like, 249 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: uh motivational speaker type of type ship, but uh, get 250 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: just give yourself some credit, man, I mean I hope 251 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: throughout throughout whatever it is, like, give yourself some credit. 252 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: I mean, you're what you're doing is uh is a 253 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: wild undertaking. It's really that sounds so hard. Uh, you know, 254 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: dealing with like a fucking uh you know, uncooperative, uncooperative father, 255 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: you know, taking care of two kids on your own, 256 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: working you know, dealing with I mean that's tough man. 257 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: So you know, uh, have have some have some compassion 258 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: for yourself as you never like do like it like 259 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: do both things at once, Like have some compassion for yourself, 260 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: you know, because what you're doing is hard, but also 261 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: like like look at yourself in the mirror and be like, 262 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm fucking killing it right now. I'm doing I'm doing 263 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: pretty good job at this like hard thing. Like because 264 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: you because you I don't know it's from from what 265 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: you said about like, oh, I feel awkward if like 266 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: I can't look people in the eye. Like, uh, you 267 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: didn't say it out right, but I don't know if 268 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: you're dealing with any kind of like self confidence issues, 269 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: but like take a second to look at yourself and 270 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: be like, wait, I'm actually kind of sick right now, 271 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, like I'm dealing with all this shit, but 272 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm still I'm holding it down, you know, like walk 273 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: around with it like that's what you should be walking 274 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: around with and not like, oh I'm weird and I 275 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: don't I can't fit into the planet. 276 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you got it down for sure. 277 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: You got it down. You got it down. 278 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Man, dude, you have no idea how happy you just 279 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: nade me because, like, like I said, like when I 280 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: first started watching you, like it was like every single 281 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: stream back when you used to have like call screeners 282 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: and stuff. I tried to call in, but then I 283 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: got too scared and I hung up. But back then 284 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I used to watch literally every single one of your streams. 285 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I'd be chatting in it. So it's like so like 286 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: surreal to be on the phone with your right though. 287 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: I'm Goldie. Try to try to try to build yourself up. 288 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: You're doing a fucking tough thing and you're doing a 289 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: pretty good job at it because uh, your kids sound 290 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: like they're alive, which is uh, I mean, even doing 291 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: that it is hard. So uh, you know, give yourself, 292 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: give yourself some credit when you try to make friends 293 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: and you just go just don't know. When you're going 294 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: about the world in general, you want to have that 295 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: mindset about yourself about like, wait, I'm actually kind of awesome. 296 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: So do with that information as you please. All right, man, Goldie, 297 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: is there anything else you want to say to the 298 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go? 299 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, just love love, come on, chat, love on yourself, 300 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: keep this uh stream of love going, swag, do something 301 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: nice for yourself. 302 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Lyle, Thank you Goldi. You have 303 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: a good one. 304 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: Good luck all right, you too, my Golden. 305 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: I want to join the word search Discord. No, I 306 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: actually don't want to do that. I'm not gonna lie 307 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: and say I want to do that, but it's because 308 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't like word searches. If I liked word searches, 309 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: i'd be in the I'd be the fucking head mod 310 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: of the word search Discord and then I would have 311 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: sex all the time. Hello, Hey, buddy, what's uh what's 312 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: your name? 313 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: My name title idle like like American? Yeah, like American idol? 314 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: Cool. I like that name. I assume we haven't spoken before, 315 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: because I would remember an idol. 316 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: No, yeah, we haven't. I've been watching for a while 317 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 4: and I've been trying to call in. I have a 318 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: very specific reason why I'm calling in. 319 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you texted me and you said I want 320 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: to talk about my anger. 321 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. I have a lot of pent up anger towards 322 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: a you know, specific group online that just like gets 323 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: me gone. I'm kind of sicking. I'm sick and tired 324 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: of like these food reviewers blowing up, you know, low 325 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: key spots, Like just the other day, like there's this 326 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 4: pop up spot, taco spot, very low key nobody knows about. 327 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: I'm going through Instagram and I see a fucking food 328 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: reviewer with like one hundred and ten thousand mics at 329 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: this spot, and I'm like, Fuck, it's gonna be like 330 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: ten thousand people at this place now, I gotta wait 331 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: in line. Quality is gonna drop because they're trying to 332 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: serve Everybody's just like what the. 333 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: Fuck why does that upset you that that's that's good, 334 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: that's what you want that it's I I hate the 335 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: whole like, uh, gatekeeping thing. Don't you want that business 336 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: to be doing well? 337 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: I do, but then it inconvenience is me because now 338 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: it's just a line and now you know it's people 339 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: there and it's just too much, too much going on. Yeah, 340 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: I want the business to succeed, but not at the 341 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: cost of me. 342 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: But you don't run the business. 343 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 344 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: It's just how can I say it. I'm just tired 345 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: of places that I love to go where it's low key. 346 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 4: Nobody knows. It's just I just like to enjoy it, 347 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: enjoy the scenery, you know, but you know people, You 348 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: got ignorant people and all these types of people coming 349 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: in because you know, all this ship and it's just 350 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: too much, you do. 351 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: You do sound very angry. This is not about I 352 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: can tell this is not about tacos. There's something else 353 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: going it's definitely notice about going on in your life. 354 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: No, nothing that's going on. It's just I'm sick of 355 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: the tired of low key spots that I enjoy being 356 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 4: blown up by food reviewers. 357 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: But do use what I don't know. I can. I 358 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: have go on to rants to you, and I don't 359 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: get food. I don't get it. Do you know what 360 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean? You don't know what I mean. I don't 361 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: I don't get like, Okay, I'm gonna say a bunch 362 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: of things that sound insane. But you know when people 363 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: are like, oh, the food at this restaurant is so good, 364 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, what who cares? There's food everywhere, Like, you 365 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: can get a taco at a billion different places. 366 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: It's fine, but it's just you know, the quality of 367 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 4: the taco. It's not just the quality of it's just 368 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: the food in general. It's just places that were special 369 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: to me are being taken over. I guess you can say. 370 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: That, Yeah you don't. You don't own I don't own it. 371 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't own the police. It's just 372 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: safe spots where I can where people who like to 373 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: just go and just like all right, yeah, nobody knows 374 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: about this spot, let's go here being blown up. That's 375 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: my problem. 376 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: Where do you live? I live in Pennsylvania, what like 377 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: in a big city. Yeah, he in Philly. Yeah, there's 378 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: a billion restaurants in Philly. Just go to another place. 379 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: That. No, that's the thing. 380 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to go to another place. 381 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: But you might discover a new place. But you might 382 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: discover another new place that you like. 383 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: That is true. But it's just okay, you're right on that. 384 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: I can discover a new place. It's just do I 385 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: want to open myself up to that new experience? 386 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 2: What did? I don't understand what you're saying. Why would 387 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: you not? 388 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's this new things scare me. 389 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that. That's more interesting to me. 390 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Why do new things scare you? Why does it scare 391 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: you to go to a new taco place. 392 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: It's not necessarily taco place. It's just like, I hate 393 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: wasting money on bad food, and that's what scares me. 394 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: Then I'm just gonna waste money and just not enjoy it. Okay, 395 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: you know what is life? 396 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: Okay? 397 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: And everybody likes to Everybody likes to sit there and 398 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 4: enjoy a nice meal. And the meal would be ruined 399 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: if you pay a certain price for for disgusting food. 400 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, but that's what you gotta do. That's 401 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: the cost of Like I actually, I can I tell 402 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: you something. I hate reviews. Here's here's what my hot takes. No, No, 403 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: I hate okay, I hate review Like when we're about 404 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: to okay, here's here's one of my hot takes. Like 405 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: if I'm with someone and I'm like, oh, let's try 406 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: this restaurant, and they pull out their phone and they 407 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: start reading the reviews. I hate that because, to me, 408 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: if it's bad, let's just find out. Who cares? I 409 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: don't want to Why does every experience have to be 410 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: Why do I need the perfect, most amazing thing all 411 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 2: the time, Like if we go to a place and 412 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: it's shitty, we'll just find it out by going there. 413 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: I hate that I have to like curate my life. 414 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: I hate like trying to curate your life so that 415 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: you never have any negative experiences ever, or any like 416 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: negative food experiences even it's just stupid. It's like, just 417 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: go into the restaurant and you pay the money, and 418 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: you eat the shitty food, and then you know not 419 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: to go there anymore. The reviews. I don't like the 420 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: system of like we have to protect ourselves from you know, 421 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: it's a real think. I think it's listen and I'm 422 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: about to go on a huge this is the most 423 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 2: podcast bro thing I'm gonna say it's part of the 424 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: overall pacification of America food reviews. You know what I mean. 425 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: It's it's it's a further passification of America that we 426 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: feel the need to protect ourselves from eating a shitty burrito. 427 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: You can handle the experience of eating a shitty burrito, 428 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: and then that's what happens to you. You ate a 429 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: shitty burrito, you know, you get upsets, and then you 430 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: don't go to that place anymore. I'm being facetious, but 431 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: I also do one hundred percent believe everything I'm saying. 432 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just, you know, I'm just tired of it, 433 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 4: but I do. Jeraly do thoroughly enjoy talking to you. 434 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: It was good to get it off my chest. I 435 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: appreciate it and appreciate you answering my call. 436 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Is there anything else you want to say 437 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: to the people of the computer before we go? Idle subscribe? Sweet? 438 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, adel. I was explaining this to someone the 439 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: other day. This is why I don't I like when 440 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, the food in Texas is so like, 441 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: the Mexican food in Texas is so great. I'm like, 442 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure it is, But if you live in like 443 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: Rhode Island, there's some fucking Mexican restaurant within fifty miles 444 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: a year that's probably pretty good. Is it is the 445 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: one in Texas? Is it that much better? I don't know. 446 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: Food is food. That's just how I am. I'm not 447 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: like a Also, you know, I'm like, I think this 448 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: maybe maybe this is because I'm like, I'm a single guy, 449 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: you know, so I'm not gonna like like whatever. It's 450 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: when people like people like, oh, you live in New York, 451 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: you go do you go to all the restaurants? I'm like, no, 452 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm a single guy. I'm not gonna like go out 453 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: alone to a nice restaurant on a Tuesday night. I don't. 454 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm not it. I just don't care. I eat at 455 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: like I eat at the grocery store, the bodegas, the 456 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: little fast casual whatever things. I also I hate. I also, like, 457 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: just on principle, I hate spending money on uh fancy 458 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: food with like low purport like low portions. You know, 459 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: I like going to a shitty Mexican place where they'll 460 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: give me a big fucking burrito for not that much money. 461 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: But if it's think it's like a fancy takaria whatever place, 462 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: and they give you a tiny thing of chips and 463 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: a tiny little whatever and you pay like it's like 464 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: thirty dollars. I hate that shit, and I hate I 465 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: hate yeah, and I hate reviews. It's like, just eatat 466 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: it's okay, you know, go you have a be in 467 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: a bad go to eat a bad food. You know 468 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: it'll be okay. I like good. I like UH. I 469 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: like good reviews of things. Sometimes do I read a review? 470 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: I guess I read reviews of uh. I read reviews 471 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: of video games? Yeah, okay, all right, maybe it's maybe 472 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm you know what, I'm actually kind of a bullshitter 473 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: because I read reviews of video games before I play them, 474 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: or do do I? I do sometimes? Yeah, you know, 475 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: because I don't like to waste my time on it. Okay, 476 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: you know what, I take back everything I said. I 477 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: think I just I think I just applied it to 478 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: this situation because I don't care that much about food. 479 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: But when I apply it to something I care about, Yeah, yeah, 480 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: I think reviews are good. Hey, everybody, what's up. It's 481 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: me Lyle And I'm gonna do the second half of 482 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: this episode as a gek mal portion. If that's okay 483 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: with you. If that's not okay with you, then uh, 484 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. It's too late, 485 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: because I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I am currently 486 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: alone in a room talking into a microphone. I feel good. 487 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: I took a Celsius, I took a bathroom break, and 488 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: I feel good. I feel ready to talk into a 489 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: microphone alone and read some emails and I feel like 490 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm talking directly to you guys. What's going on in 491 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 2: my life? I went to Canada. That was nice. New 492 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: York in the fall is great. I'm trying to romanticize 493 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: my own life. Here's what's going on. This is my 494 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: this is the portion of the podcast. I'll do my 495 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: therapy for a second. I find myself constantly thinking about 496 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: the future, the future, you know, I'm always making plans. 497 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm always like, oh, wouldn't it be cool to live here? 498 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: One day? Like I go to fucking uh Zillow or whatever, 499 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's the what's the rent in uh Madison, Wisconsin? 500 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: What would it be like to be there? You know, 501 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm on the Reddit. I'm looking at other people's lives 502 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: on Instagram. And shit, and I'm like, what would it 503 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: be like to live that life? What would be like 504 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: to do this? What would be like to do that? 505 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: And I'm realizing I'm like, I'm fucking thinking about versions 506 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: of myself and versions of different versions of life that 507 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: are that I'm not even in, and I'm missing my 508 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: own life. It's crazy. So I'm trying to romanticize my 509 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: own life. So I'm feeling very romantic about this very 510 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: moment in which I'm sitting here talking into this uh microphone, 511 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: talking to you guys. So I'm going to romanticize the 512 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: life I'm currently living right now, however good or bad 513 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: it is. When I'm with someone, I'm trying to really 514 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: be with them. I'm looking in their eyes. I'm like, 515 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: even if I hate them, I'm like, oh, this is nice. 516 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: I get to I'm like warmed by the distain I 517 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: have for this person. Get I feel alive. I'm like 518 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: really diving in all of my emotions. I'm like diving 519 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 2: into them. I'm like, oh, I get to feel angry, 520 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 2: I get to feel I'm getting into a I'm gonna 521 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: fight with my landlord, and I'm like, this is exciting. 522 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: I get to send an angry email about fixing my 523 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: fucking heater. Look at me, I'm engaging with the universe. 524 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm crazy. All right, let's read some emails. 525 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: Let's see here. This is from Waka Hello GEK. My 526 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: life is not bad. I'm about to graduate college, I 527 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: have a good lady, I'm planning to marry, and a 528 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: job that is giving me good experience with decent pay. Recently, 529 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 2: I had a strange dream. In the dream, my parents 530 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: were flying out to where I live to visit me, 531 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: and their plane suddenly vanishes. But I can remember involves 532 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: me trying to process this moment. I don't know what 533 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: happened to the plane, but when I learned that my 534 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: parents were missing, I was devastated. After some time, I 535 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: began to question why I was even sad to begin with, 536 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: and I started to reflect on all the problems in 537 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: that relationship with my parents. I remember feeling angry for 538 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: even considering that. Eventually, some kind of authority came to 539 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: me and was about to reveal what happened to my 540 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 2: parent's plane. But then I woke up. My parents are 541 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: flying out to the state I live to visit me 542 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: and my sister for Thanksgiving, So the timing of this 543 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: dream is alarming. I recently asked chat gpt to interpret 544 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: the stream for me because it's been stuck on my 545 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: mind for a week now. Chat gave me mumbo jumbo 546 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: about how it is a reflection of my strained relationship 547 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: with my parents. Blah blah blah. What are your thoughts? 548 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: Does this sound like a sign that my parents are 549 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: going to die? Uh? No, I don't think it's a 550 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: sign that your parents are going to die. I don't think. Okay, Like, 551 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 2: there's actually a lot of woo shit that I believe 552 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: is completely logical that makes a lot of fucking sense 553 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: to me. I and what but and then there's a 554 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: lot of woo woo shit that I think is stupid 555 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: And with dreams, Like I don't interpret dreams to mean 556 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: anything about the about anything external, like they don't. I 557 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: don't think they mean shit about the external events of 558 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: the universe. So like, no, I don't think that, uh, 559 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: this dream means that your parents are gonna die or 560 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: that something bad will happen. I don't believe in wu 561 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: wuo shit like that. But I totally believe in dreams 562 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: being like reflective of the internal state. So it definitely 563 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: means you have some anxiety. It's definitely also dreams will 564 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: like show you shit that you don't want to admit 565 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: to yourself. Like what a perfect example is, like if 566 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: you break up with someone and you believe you're fully 567 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: over it, your dreams will show you that you're not. 568 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: You'll be like, you'll be fucking like fun five months 569 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: after a breakup or something like that, and believe you're 570 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: totally over it, and then you just have a dream 571 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 2: that you're like holding hands with that person, and your 572 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 2: subconscious is like you're lying to yourself that you're over 573 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: this right now, you know. So dreams will like show 574 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: you uncomfortable shit, But that doesn't mean any That doesn't 575 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: mean shit about the you know your ex girlfriend, you 576 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: know she's out living her life, has nothing to do 577 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 2: with your fucking dream. It's just reflects how you feel. 578 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: So maybe you feel anxious that about your parents. Maybe 579 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: you feel anxious about your parents dying, which is a 580 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: legitimate feeling to have. Maybe, yeah, it's probably reflective of 581 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: some relationship problems that you have with your parents. It's 582 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 2: probably reflective of some anger of some kind. So I 583 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: agree with the chat gpt interpretation of that. But I 584 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: don't believe in like signs of external thing. I believe 585 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: in signs of internal things. Uh yeah, I mean thinking that. 586 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 2: To think that your dreams are like signs of the universe, 587 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: of like events that will happen, that means that means 588 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: that you're like God or some shit. You know what 589 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Okay, there's more of this email. That is 590 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: the first of two strange experiences I have had at 591 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: night recently. The other was last night I could not 592 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: fall asleep after watching six episodes of Bob's Burgers. I 593 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: turned to YouTube, and I decided to watch a documentary 594 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: about the ongoing civil war in Sudan. The documentary explored 595 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: the complex landscape of the parties involved in the war. Eventually, 596 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: the video talks about a specific skirmish over a town 597 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: in which one of the military forces kills hundreds of 598 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: civilians and burns everything down. At this point, I had 599 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: to stop watching the video. I feel like I somewhat 600 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: keep up with global events. I am aware of horrible 601 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 2: things that happen everywhere every day. Human history has an 602 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 2: unmeasurable list of tragedies that have occurred, but for some reason, 603 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: I could not go back to watching Bob's Burgers this time. 604 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I try to typically keep a good 605 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: outlook on life, but this makes me feel like I 606 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: am so ungrateful for my problems. I get to be 607 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: upset at my parents from my childhood and not have 608 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: to grieve my entire town being slaughtered and burned to 609 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 2: the ground by an evil dictator. Ghek, am I going crazy? 610 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: Why am I suddenly burdened with these thoughts? I'm grateful 611 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 2: for the opportunity to be more appreciative of my place 612 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: in this world, But how do I not let this 613 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: haunt me? How am I supposed to bring kids into 614 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: this evil world one day? Is it not morally wrong 615 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 2: to be responsible for sending the next generation into a 616 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: place where so much bad happens? Anyway, I hope this 617 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: email reaches you. I enjoy your perspective on things, and 618 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: I hope to hear back from you on this. I 619 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: have the exact same thoughts, oh man, listen, man, I 620 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: have the same fucking thoughts all the time. And uh, 621 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: it's very funny because, like, I don't know, I've been 622 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: to places where like I've seen like object poverty, and 623 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: horrible things, but also like you know, I mean I 624 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 2: live in haven't lived in like New York and LA, 625 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: Like you just see that shit outside of your house, uh, 626 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: And also like whatever you hear about it and you 627 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, yeah, you know if you're looking at 628 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: if you if you look up from your phone or 629 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 2: down at your phone, yeah, you'll find lots of examples 630 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: of horrible things happening, for sure. And that makes you 631 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 2: feel a sense of like, damn, I'm ungrateful for feeling 632 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 2: like shit about my problems. And I've heard people talk 633 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 2: about this, and I've heard people say things like like 634 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: sad and this is relative and problems are relative and 635 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 2: this and that and the other thing, and it's like, well, 636 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: you know, like people people say like, oh, I think 637 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 2: it's so annoying when I have a problem and then 638 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: someone says to me, well, you could be starving in Africa. 639 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: It could be worse, like people people get like annoyed 640 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: by that. But I I I disagree. I disagree. I 641 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: think every problem. I think every problem can totally be 642 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: solved by being like, well, at least I'm not you know, 643 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: in Sedan getting killed by a dictator. You know, I 644 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: think that's real. I hate when people say that that 645 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: that is that that's not real. Like if your brave, 646 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 2: if you your girlfriend broke up with you, or you 647 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 2: didn't sell enough necklaces on Etsy or whatever, and someone's like, well, 648 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: it could be worse. You could be you know, starving 649 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: to death in the streets, and you're like, fuck you, 650 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: that's not helpful. I'm like, fuck you, that's really helpful. 651 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: You could totally it could totally be worse. I really 652 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: try to think about that a lot. So I so 653 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: you're not crazy. You're not crazy for believing that your 654 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: life is so much better because you don't live in 655 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 2: a country where you could be killed by the government. 656 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: I don't think that makes you crazy. But also, at 657 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you got to live your 658 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 2: own life, because I think if you dive too deep 659 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: into that, and I've dived really deep into that feeling 660 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: of like, well, let me just negate my entire existence 661 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 2: because it could be worse, and that's not helpful either. 662 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 2: That's not helpful either. So you know, I'm working. I'm 663 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: pondering this shit with you, and I think it's as 664 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: as as is the answer to a lot of shit. 665 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: It's a yin yang like hold a good make some 666 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: room in your brain for like a dedication. You like, 667 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 2: dedicate a real, nice, solid part of your brain portfolio 668 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty percent whatever you want delegate a real 669 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: solid part of your brain portfolio to. Thank God, I'm 670 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: not living in a country that's deeply impoverished in at war. Really, really, 671 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 2: that's worthy brain space to take, So dedicate that, But 672 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,439 Speaker 2: don't dedicate the whole brain to it or else or else? 673 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: What even are you? You know you're You can't because 674 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: you have to engage with your life. And part of 675 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: engaging with your life is engaging with your problems and 676 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: your conflicts, such as your relationship with your parents. So 677 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: you still got to engage in that. You can't. Oh, 678 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 2: it could be worse. Your way out of your problems entirely, 679 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: but having a little bit of it could be worse. 680 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: I could be living in a bad place and subject 681 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 2: to horrible the horrible things of the universe. Is a 682 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 2: good it's a good thing to keep it in perspective, 683 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: But you can't just negate your life. So uh, I 684 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 2: think it's healthy. Uh Okay. And then the part where 685 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: you're like, how do I not let this haunt me exactly? 686 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: You don't want to let it haunt you. How am 687 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: I supposed to bring kids into this evil world one day? 688 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 2: That's another problem is you don't want to look at 689 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 2: the world as evil. You don't. And there's a lot 690 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: but you know, there's a lot of fucking people that 691 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 2: I've met and talked to who live One of the 692 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 2: craziest things that I've experienced in my life is like, 693 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 2: I feel like I've been so fucking lucky to live 694 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 2: the life I live, not even just like you know 695 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 2: this the like gecko stuff, but like just outside of that, 696 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 2: just like living in a growing up in like a suburb, 697 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 2: and like having good parents and all these things. And 698 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 2: I feel I feel these feelings of like of like 699 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: lack and of like, uh, depression or whatever. And I'll 700 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: meet people who've grown up with and have so much 701 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: less than I have, and their way and they just 702 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: figure out a fucking way to like be happy and 703 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 2: have a really positive outlook on the world. And I'm 704 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: like and that and that, and that blows my mind, 705 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 2: so uh. And I say that to mean that there's 706 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: probably people whose lives are worse than yours. That don't 707 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: think the world is evil. That there's people with who 708 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: are who's lives are worse than yours, that have a 709 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: better outlook on the planet than you do. And I 710 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 2: know that because I've met people like that, talk to 711 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: people like that, And so if they can have a 712 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 2: shittier life than you, and less stuff than you, and 713 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 2: worse problems than you and still not believe the world 714 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 2: is evil, then I think you can too. So I 715 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 2: don't think that. I don't I'm I don't think that 716 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 2: like object doom and being like, oh the world is 717 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: an evil, awful, terrible place. Being like, oh the world 718 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 2: is an evil, awful, terrible place is not fucking helpful 719 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 2: to anyone in the same way that being like, dude, 720 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 2: everything is fucking great. Like when you meet a guy 721 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: like that who's like, everything's amazing, Everything's awesome. I just 722 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: love being alive, and it's like, yeah, because you have 723 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: whatever the thing is or maybe or maybe you don't, 724 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 2: maybe it don't. I like a measured thing. I like 725 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: a measured perspective of the world of like something in 726 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: between those two things of like, yeah, there's some crazy 727 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 2: shit going on. There's a civil war in suitan there's 728 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: a horrible poverty and crazy wars and is awful stuff 729 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: going on, and you know, it's good to be aware 730 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 2: of that, like but also, like you know, there's a 731 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: lot of good stuff happening to people. There's great things 732 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 2: happening all over the world. There's right now, as I'm 733 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 2: right now, as I'm recording this, all over the planet, 734 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 2: there's like two, three, maybe four people who are eating 735 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: something and talking to each other. That's happening. That's happening 736 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: in an unfathomable amount across the planet Earth right now 737 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 2: is a group of two to four people eating something 738 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: and talking to each other. That's kind of amazing, that's 739 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 2: kind of beautiful. So you take this pros and cons 740 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 2: to it, and those four and those four people who 741 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 2: are eating something and talking to each other there they 742 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 2: have their own whatever problem's going on with their life, 743 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 2: but they have also little moments where things are good 744 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: and you have to believe that the good outweighs the 745 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: bad enough that life's worth living. And we want to 746 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: keep doing this, we want to keep doing this enough 747 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: that we'll bring a kid here. I've thought about that too, man, 748 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that yesterday. I was i got 749 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 2: to earlier this year. I was in such a dumor 750 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 2: existentialist place that I was. I was on the Wikipedia 751 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: page for anti natalism. Maybe I talked about this already, 752 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 2: but yeah, and I was like looking through this like 753 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: movement of people who believe that it's like morally wrong 754 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 2: to have children and like bring consciousness into the world. 755 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that. I was like, yeah, I was. 756 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 2: I was feeling really scared yesterday because I was thinking about, 757 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 2: like if I want to have a kid, and I 758 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 2: was like, fuck, that's a terrifying idea to me that 759 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: I like bring consciousness into the world and then my 760 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: kid is unhappy or feels, uh, you know, has exist 761 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 2: some bad life, and I would feel weirdly responsible for that, Like, 762 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: oh fuck, I've brought a new consciousness into this like 763 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 2: kind of difficult thing and now I'm responsible for that. 764 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: Like that spooks That spooks me out for sure. But 765 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be up to me to believe 766 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 2: that this thing that we're experiencing between two Oreo cookies 767 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 2: of fucking oblivion is uh is worth, it is a 768 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 2: cool ride, is a good thing, and that I have 769 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 2: the opportunity to uh like install a positive perspective upon 770 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 2: or dude, try the best I fucking can. I mean, 771 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you bring a kid 772 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: into this world, and you you have, of course a 773 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 2: lot of influences. You have probably the most influence. You'll 774 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 2: be the most influential person to this kid's life. And 775 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 2: you know, I try to do that the best you can. 776 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 2: But then after that, they, you know, develop their own 777 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 2: perception of the world. And that's kind of a beautiful 778 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 2: thing too. But uh, yeah, you have the opportunity to 779 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 2: find your own I guess joy and positive perspective and 780 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 2: like show and like introduce you can't make You can 781 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: lead a horse to water, but you can't make it. 782 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 2: You can lead a horse to good vibes, but you 783 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 2: can't make them take it, you know what I mean. 784 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 2: You can introduce your kid to like, oh, hey, this 785 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 2: is a way of looking at the world that I 786 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 2: think is good, and you can't make them take it, 787 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 2: but you can at least be like I tried to 788 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: introduce them to it. So is it not morally wrong 789 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: to be sending the next generation into a place where 790 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 2: so much bad happens? But also think about it like this, 791 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 2: and I think about it all the time. And I 792 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: have been the thing like I've been talking about on 793 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 2: the show of like bad shit has been happening forever. 794 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 2: I mean there's bad things have been happening forever, and 795 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: we keep that, we keep doing it, we keep doing it. 796 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 2: This is not new like all the stuff that we're 797 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 2: thinking all the like uh numerism that we're dealing with. 798 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: It's not like our problem where it's we have new problems. 799 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: But like. 800 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 2: You know, think about like whatever nineteen thirty whatever the 801 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 2: fuck being like you know, oh fuck, this Hitler guy 802 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: is kind of crazy. Uh, the world? Is it war? 803 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 2: Should we have a kid? I don't know about how 804 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 2: I feel about the world right now. You know, we 805 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: figure it out. We just keep we keep figuring it out. 806 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: And we've been and I'm pretty confident that we'll keep 807 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 2: figuring it out because we just we keep figuring it 808 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 2: out after like, uh, I mean, isn't that wild? We 809 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 2: people keep even in like fucking places that have experienced 810 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 2: a lot of turmoil, people keep having kids, and they 811 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 2: keep figuring it out, and they keep deciding either logically 812 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 2: or just or biologically their bodies. I mean, we're programmed 813 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 2: to fucking reproduce. We just keep deciding we want to 814 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: keep doing it. So the answer to why we keep 815 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 2: deciding that as a species that we want to keep 816 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 2: doing it is beyond me. I think it's just innate. 817 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 2: I think it's just as a species where like sharks, 818 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 2: we just want to We just fucking want to keep 819 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 2: going and we're gonna do it. If you believe yourself 820 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 2: to be part of a eight billion large collective conscious, 821 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: we've unanimously, not unanimously, but we've kind of as a 822 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 2: whole decided that we're gonna keep doing this until we can't. 823 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 2: So if you wanna, with whatever individual agency you have, 824 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: make a new person and try to raise them to 825 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: be one of the good ones, I think that's a 826 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: noble thing to do, regardless of would you believe the 827 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 2: current state of the world to be, because there's always 828 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 2: gonna be there's never gonna be a time where something 829 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 2: bad is not happening, and there's never and there's never 830 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: gonna be a time where something good's not happening. I 831 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 2: really do believe this is bad. There's so like you, 832 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: and that's why I love living in the city because 833 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 2: every day I see, like, if you live in like 834 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 2: a big American city like every day, or I guess 835 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 2: a lot of European cities, there's not a lot of 836 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: like a like I don't know, I haven't been to 837 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,879 Speaker 2: a lot of Asian cities, but like, uh, I think 838 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: in most major places, you walk around and you see 839 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 2: people living in some form of poverty. But then you 840 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 2: also just see like if you if you're if you're 841 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 2: looking for it, go on a walk outside in a 842 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 2: populated area and you just watch like a mom like 843 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 2: walking with their like normal fucking things, like a mom 844 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 2: like walking with their kid and the kid has is 845 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 2: holding a thing, or like two people just like someone 846 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 2: just walking and existing like like, I don't know, there's 847 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 2: good stuff about being alive as well as bad stuff. 848 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 2: I've been ranking about this for too long, but I 849 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 2: hope you understand what I'm kind of trying to say. 850 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, this is from jose Hey Lyle. I'm 851 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 2: an on and off listener, and I want to know 852 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 2: how tall you are. I'm five foot six and a half. 853 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 2: I was five foot seven and then I started telling 854 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 2: the truth. When I go on the day, when I 855 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 2: go on the dating apps, I'm five foot seven. I 856 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: can get away with five foot seven. I'm five foot 857 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 2: six and a half. I'm somewhere in between five foot 858 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: six and five foot seven, and uh, you know, I 859 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 2: can work with five foot seven. I could work with 860 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 2: five foot six, honestly whatever. I think. I've gone through 861 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 2: ebbs and flows about my height where sometimes I get 862 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 2: really insecure about it, and then other times I'm like, 863 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 2: it's so stupid to be insecure about your height. It 864 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 2: really is. It really is stupid to be insecure about 865 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: your height. I sometimes I go to bush I think 866 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 2: I go to Bushwick sometimes and that's a strong Mexican community, 867 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 2: and I think in general Mexican guys are a little shorter. 868 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 2: Walk around Bushwick and I'll see like a five foot 869 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 2: three Mexican guy with a beautiful girlfriend, and I'm like, okay, 870 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: you know, we like, this is workable, you can work 871 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 2: with this. Okay, wait, there's another height thing. Okay, here 872 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: we go, Yeah, there we go. All right. This is 873 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 2: from Danny, subject line five foot guy with women troubles. 874 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,240 Speaker 2: Dear Gek, First and foremost, you and your podcast are wicked. 875 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show for almost a year now. 876 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 2: It's been such a refreshing way to get new perspectives 877 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 2: on life and hear experiences I'd never come across otherwise. 878 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: Having you on in the background during my my team calls, Outlook, Grind, 879 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: and daily work routine has made the nine to five 880 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 2: so much more bearable. For context, I'm twenty five years old, 881 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 2: five foot in stature, single and ready to mingle. I 882 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,760 Speaker 2: haven't been in a relationship for the past two years. 883 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 2: I mentioned my height because it's been a bit of 884 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 2: a hurdle on dating apps. Being short isn't exactly society's 885 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 2: gold standard for attractiveness, and that can suck sometimes, but 886 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 2: it is what it is. I've been using Tinder and 887 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 2: Hinge for a couple of years. Met my past girlfriend's there, Okay, 888 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: fucking we got some. We got some, we got a 889 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 2: track record, and while I do get matches and occasional dates, 890 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: there are definitely dry spells. Since moving to a new 891 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: city last year, I've only been on two dates. I 892 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 2: feel like I've reached a place where I'm comfortable being alone, 893 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 2: but I still want to find someone to experience life with. 894 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to rush into a relationship just to 895 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: check a box. I want it to feel right, so 896 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 2: here's someone in my mind, I matched with a girl, 897 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: let's call her April on Hinge. I was attracted to 898 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,439 Speaker 2: her and after a few days of texting, we set 899 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 2: up a date. By the way, just like, that's another like, look, 900 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 2: this guy's five feet and he's able to find meet 901 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 2: a lady unhinged. And also, here's another cool thing I 902 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 2: like about this is this guy's not like, uh whatever 903 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 2: cards you were adults on the planet of like height 904 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 2: or whatever whatever it is. It's it's only over when 905 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 2: you when you spiral because you read this guy's email 906 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 2: and this guy like this guy because this guy again, 907 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: you can't. Falling into doom is not a good strategy, 908 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: as is falling into blind optimism. Look at this guy. 909 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 2: This guy's like, look I because this guy's like, look, 910 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: it sucks being short, but it is what it is. Like, 911 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: that's a perfect mindset. Because if this guy was like, 912 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm foot six, it's over. I'll just I just have 913 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: to assume I'm never gonna be happy ever in my life, 914 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 2: then you know that's he's never gonna be anywhere. But look, 915 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: he's got a he's a sensible guy. He has some 916 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: fucking grip on himself and so he's able to, you know, 917 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 2: meet someone. Okay, I met a girl. We set up 918 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 2: a date. We went thrifting and grabbed a late lunch 919 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 2: an early dinner. I paid, did the gentleman thing. Date 920 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: went well, conversation flowed, she was receptive. At the end, 921 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 2: she asked if I wanted to hang out again. I 922 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 2: said yes. Afterwards she texted me a lot of sweet messages, 923 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 2: complimenting me and checking in on my day. I responded 924 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 2: with playful, cute replies. But now I'm not sure how 925 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 2: I feel about her. It feels like she's more into 926 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 2: me than I am into her. Oh my god, look 927 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: at this. This is not how where I thought this 928 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 2: email was coming. Don't get me wrong. Being chased is nice, 929 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 2: But I don't know if we see this turning. I 930 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 2: don't know if I see this turning into a long 931 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 2: term relationship. We have a I can date, planned moving 932 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 2: it at her place where young. We have urges. We 933 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 2: might not watch the movie if you catch my drift. Okay, 934 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 2: but I worry about leading her on if I go 935 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 2: through with it, and that thought keeps lingering. Can I 936 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 2: do better? It sounds shallow, but it's there, so I'm 937 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: asking for your advice. What should I do? You know, well, 938 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 2: the I used, by the way, the whole idea of 939 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 2: like can I do better? Being shallow. Can I do better? 940 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Is not like a when you say can I do better? 941 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean like, uh, I don't think that's like 942 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 2: reflective of the other person. That's a reflective of you. 943 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,280 Speaker 2: When you say can I do better, you're not like, 944 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 2: can I do better? In terms of like this person 945 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 2: that's standing up, can I find a better person? You're 946 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 2: more like, can I find a person where I feel 947 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 2: a better feeling about them? So I don't think that 948 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: that's shallow necessarily, because what's the fucking point, right, Because 949 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 2: if you're like not that into this person, I don't know. 950 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean everyone's experiences this shit differently. Some people they 951 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 2: can like be not that into some person and then 952 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 2: over time they really like grow with them and they 953 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 2: feel good with them and they kind of get a uh, 954 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 2: they get they get like a positive you know, they 955 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 2: they develop attraction over time. And that could be you, 956 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: But I don't know, maybe you're maybe you're not that guy. 957 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Have you been that guy in the past, Like you 958 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 2: said you met your past girlfriend's there. Are you a 959 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: slow build guy or are you a I know when 960 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 2: I know it guy? If you if you've been a 961 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: slow build guy and you kind of feel in your 962 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 2: gut you're like I could, I could be a slow 963 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 2: build guy. I could slowly build attraction, then go for it. 964 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 2: But if you're if you know in your gut that 965 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 2: you're not a slow build guy, then I understand wanted 966 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 2: to call it, and I don't. I don't think it's 967 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 2: shallow because I think also, like you want to fucking 968 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 2: be with someone that you want to be with and 969 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 2: you want and so does this fucking this lady wants 970 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 2: to be with someone that wants to be with her. 971 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: So I don't think it's shallow to look for a 972 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 2: stronger connection. I don't. I don't even think it's reflective 973 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 2: of this lady. I think it's just reflective of like 974 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 2: your own brain. That's That's another thing about like attraction 975 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 2: is it's so it's a lot more complicated I think 976 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,360 Speaker 2: than people give it credit for. I mean, obviously, in general, 977 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 2: like if you're more physically attractive, if you're taller, if 978 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 2: you're in better shape, and you know, you get people, 979 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 2: more people are going to be attracted to you, but 980 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 2: like there's still a lot of subtleties that make it 981 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 2: so that you can't be too black and white with 982 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 2: this stuff. Uh So that's that's what I suggest you 983 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 2: should do, is decide if you're open to a slow 984 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 2: burn or if you're not, then it's okay to it's 985 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: okay to withdraw respectfully. Uh let's see here, let's do 986 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 2: one or two more. Uh okay. This is from Malachi. 987 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Subject line, I got stalked by a creep in prison. 988 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 2: My name is Malachi aka Invader mal and I wanted 989 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 2: to share a story with you. That's funny now, but 990 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: back then it had me shook. I was locked up 991 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,920 Speaker 2: in prison and for a minute I had a cell 992 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 2: buddy who called himself Mike that smokes crack. I thought 993 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 2: it was just a weird nickname, but it turns out 994 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 2: he was a full blown creep. Dude. Was this fat, 995 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 2: oversized white guy. And at first he told me he 996 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 2: got locked up for breaking into a pharmacy in the daytime, 997 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 2: high on drugs after his girlfriend left him. Sounded believable 998 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 2: until it got weird. One night, I'm asleep in my 999 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 2: bunk and I wake up to this dude literally sitting 1000 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 2: at the edge of my bed watching me sleep. I 1001 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 2: jump up, I go what the hell and he hits 1002 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 2: me with, oh, hey, sell, buddy, I was just waiting 1003 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 2: for you to wake up. Jes got off the phone 1004 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 2: with my pastor bro what So later that day I 1005 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 2: told one of my big homies, yes, I'm a gang member. 1006 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 2: Tree Top pierro a blood set. I let my og 1007 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,120 Speaker 2: know that Mike was watching me sleep, and he said, 1008 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 2: if he do that again, let me know we're gonna 1009 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 2: handle it. The funny part. I'm playing spades in the 1010 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 2: card room later that week and I run upstairs to 1011 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 2: grab my coffee. Mike's in the cell and goes, hey, sell, buddy, 1012 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 2: I accidentally showed someone my butt. I'm like what. He 1013 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 2: explains he was in the shower, bent over with the 1014 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 2: curtain wide open, and a Muslim brother saw him. That 1015 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 2: Muslim brother threatened to stab him for real. I went 1016 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 2: and asked the Muslim brother myself, and he said, Bro 1017 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 2: was straight bent over in the shower like he was 1018 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 2: in a music video. I was done. So now I'm 1019 01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 2: thinking something's off. Rumors start going around the unit that 1020 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 2: he's in for touching boys at a Catholic church. I 1021 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 2: asked for his paperwork, and he sends me some fake 1022 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 2: nonsense that said breaking and entering. I dig deeper and 1023 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 2: find the real charges, multiple counts of molesting boys in 1024 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 2: the church. That night I went to bed with a plan, 1025 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 2: wake up and get him the hell out of my cell. 1026 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: I wake up to him again, staring at me, this 1027 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 2: time sitting on the bunk reading a book like this 1028 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 2: was some lifetime movie. I said, nah, not again. I 1029 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 2: ran to my og The whole blood set formed up. 1030 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 2: We went in that cell, took all his commissary, his food, 1031 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 2: and kicked him out barefoot. It was like prison house hunters. 1032 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 2: He got moved to the old man tier and where 1033 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 2: it is. They beat his ass and had him transferred 1034 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 2: out to another prison. When I got home, I looked 1035 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 2: him up. Everything was true. Not only did he have 1036 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 2: those charges, but apparently he used to sleep up in 1037 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 2: the rafters at church and wait until the service started 1038 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 2: and play with himself. That man was a real life boogieman. So, Gecko, 1039 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 2: what would you have done in that situation? Dude? I 1040 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 2: don't I don't know what would I What would I 1041 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 2: have done in that situation? I would have gone to 1042 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 2: sleep and been like I'm gonna would I would have 1043 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 2: just slept as much as I possibly could. Probably I 1044 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 2: would have been I would have attempted to be unconscious 1045 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 2: as long as humanly possible. I would have read a 1046 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 2: book and be like I would have I don't know. 1047 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what I would have done in that situation. Man, 1048 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 2: how are you doing now? Matt? Like I call in, 1049 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you. You see to make an 1050 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,919 Speaker 2: interesting guy. I want to hear more more stories about 1051 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 2: what's going on with you. If you're listening, I want 1052 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 2: to I want to hear what's going on. You got 1053 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 2: a good you got it? 1054 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1055 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 2: I like the way you tell stories. Also, yeah, I 1056 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 2: feel like I'm only hearing about Mike, who smokes crack. 1057 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: I want to hear about Malachi. I want to hear 1058 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 2: what's going on with you. Let's see here. I think 1059 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 2: that's it. I think I think I'm done reading email 1060 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 2: for now. Thank you guys for listening to the podcast. 1061 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it. I hope it was a 1062 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 2: good time for you all. 1063 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 1064 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,360 Speaker 2: I hope I didn't piss anyone off every time. I 1065 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't. I think I try to be pretty fair 1066 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 2: about the way I do this, But sometimes I'm like, 1067 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: am I pissing someone off? 1068 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 4: Right? Now? 1069 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 2: That's the that's the trade off of talking into a 1070 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,560 Speaker 2: microphone and putting it on the internet, is you can 1071 01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 2: just piss someone off somehow. I hope I don't do that. Okay, 1072 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 2: maybe I should read one more? Should I read one more? 1073 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 2: I'll read one more. I'll make the podcast a little 1074 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 2: bit longer. Okay, let's see here, Hey GEK call me ismail. 1075 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 2: Oh the subject line is h I stopped listening to podcasts. 1076 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 2: Hey GEK call me ismail. Thanks for all the time 1077 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 2: I spent on your podcast because I was depressed and 1078 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,799 Speaker 2: wouldn't leave my house and had to remember how regular 1079 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 2: conversations worked. Now the Lexapro is working, and in a 1080 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 2: four month turnaround, I'm sleeping with two people that know 1081 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 2: about each other and are fine with it and love 1082 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 2: biting me. He capitalized all those anything that I said 1083 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 2: in that weird voice. He he had fully capitalized. Big 1084 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 2: shout out to Lexapro. Glad I'm not dead. I don't 1085 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 2: have a whole lot of use for podcasts now that 1086 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 2: I quit night shifts at UPS and got my sleep 1087 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: schedule right, started getting some writing done in a coffee 1088 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 2: shop and then going up to people that I'd seen 1089 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 2: around town, which is possible without lexapro for those interested. 1090 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 2: I got back to therapy. Fuck, working out, meds and 1091 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 2: sleep is fucking fine. I don't know what that last 1092 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 2: part means, but I mean working out it's cool. I 1093 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 2: always forget that I'm great at talking to people when 1094 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm hold up in my room. Thanks for getting me 1095 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 2: through the night shift. I have listening since episode ten, 1096 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 2: but I have to go now. Sorry, and thanks again. 1097 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 2: Is Meil, But you know what is mil? I'm I'm 1098 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 2: happy to hear. Oh he sent this. He sent this 1099 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 2: email a long time. He sent this email months ago, 1100 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,280 Speaker 2: so he's not he's not even gonna hear this. But whatever, 1101 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 2: he's he's having sex right now with two people that 1102 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,680 Speaker 2: know about each other and are fine with it and 1103 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 2: love biting him. So that's good. Hmm. Yeah, that happens 1104 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 2: to me all the time. Man, Oh God, that hapens 1105 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 2: to me all the time. I'll be like, I'll be 1106 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 2: like really fucking depressed and like not wanting to talk 1107 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,360 Speaker 2: to anyone, and I'll be like, shit, I think I've 1108 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 2: there's been so many times. It happens multiple times a 1109 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 2: week where I'm just like, shit, I don't think I 1110 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 2: can have a conversation with another human being. I do 1111 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 2: it for a living, and I'm just like, fuck, I 1112 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 2: don't I can't talk to other people. And then let's 1113 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 2: have a day where I'm like, I don't know the 1114 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 2: fucking vivance hits right or the sun hits right or whatever, 1115 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 2: and I'm just like, damn, I forgot that I'm actually 1116 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 2: awesome at talking to people. You got to remind yourself 1117 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 2: who you are. It's in there, folks. You just got 1118 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 2: to remind yourself who you are sometimes, and then you 1119 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 2: could end up like Ismail and stop listening to this 1120 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 2: podcast as well. No, thank you guys for listening. 1121 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 4: I listen. 1122 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't. It's funny because this 1123 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 2: kind of harkens back to the very first caller we had. 1124 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,640 Speaker 2: But uh, I don't, I don't know. I listened to 1125 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:05,799 Speaker 2: a lot of podcasts just for like I guess noise, 1126 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 2: not so much for like social interaction. I fall asleep 1127 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 2: every night to podcasts about Nintendo games. I love that shit, 1128 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,759 Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm gonna go do that right now. 1129 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 2: Actually I'm not. It's the morning time. So thank you, 1130 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 2: guys for listening to Therapy Gecko. I'm a gecko. I 1131 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed this episode. I hope this was good 1132 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 2: for you guys. I hope you enjoyed being here. I 1133 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 2: enjoyed recording it. I know that much. Thank you all. 1134 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Have a good night and have a good What is 1135 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 2: it today's Wednesday? Okay, have a good weekend. Everyone, Get blessed, 1136 01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 2: see you around the universe. Repeat, Get Ghosts on the line, 1137 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 2: taking your phone calls every night. The repeat, Get ghost 1138 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 2: doing his ride. He's teaching you a housing over your life, 1139 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 2: but he's not really an expert.