WEBVTT - #25 Becky and Jo

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember Do you remember.

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<v Speaker 2>When you do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when you once told me that we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the blues, because you like, you were

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<v Speaker 1>saying how you you love the blues? You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>just making you said that you really know. You said

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<v Speaker 1>you love the blues, and then you told me that.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, who's your favorite blues musician and you

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<v Speaker 1>said Jim Belushi. I said, really, there's so many great

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<v Speaker 1>like blues.

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<v Speaker 3>You're an idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>From Gimblet Media, I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode, Becky and Joe LA All around me cinematic landmarks,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese Theater, Hollywood Boulevard, Sunset Boulevard, Sunsets, the Pacific Ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Shaloub, the Observatory from Rebel Without a Cause, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood Sign from the Entourage movie. Fun Fact LA

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<v Speaker 1>is what industry insiders call Los Angeles. Hey, Becky, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles to see Becky. She grew up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents work in the film biz. They're producers of

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<v Speaker 1>movies that if I named you'd say, I know that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>What a nice place. Becky gives me a tour of

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<v Speaker 1>the nice place which happens to be your mom's place

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a quiet place, a good place to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so great the way that all the rooms disconnect,

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<v Speaker 1>one to the other, one to the other. I'm in hollyweird. Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>There are windows too, overlooking a yard. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>are those oranges?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>The California dream you just like? Open up the window

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen. On the wall hangs the painting of

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<v Speaker 1>a boat on the coffee table sits a pipe? Does

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<v Speaker 1>your mom smoke a pipe?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Just a conversation piece, but worth every penny, because as

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<v Speaker 1>the tour draws to an end, the conversation begins. The

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<v Speaker 1>story all started, Becky says a few months ago, while

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<v Speaker 1>dining at an Italian restaurant with her parents and older

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<v Speaker 1>sister Joe.

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<v Speaker 6>We were at my birthday dinner. My whole family was there.

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<v Speaker 7>Mom and dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky's mom and dad are divorced, so the whole family

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<v Speaker 1>rarely gets together.

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<v Speaker 6>Like my parents, they're cordial, but like it's really birthdays.

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<v Speaker 1>Their chit chat proceeded along, and that way. Family restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>discussions often do a lot of remember that person, remember

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, remember that thing. This person was supposed to return,

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<v Speaker 1>but never did, and now we don't have that thing

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<v Speaker 1>or know that person. It was in this way that

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<v Speaker 1>Becky came to mention someone the family hadn't talked about

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<v Speaker 1>in years, Letitia. As soon as the name was uttered,

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<v Speaker 1>Becky could see the power it still had over her

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<v Speaker 1>older sister, Joe, even after so many years.

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<v Speaker 4>Becky brought up Leticia.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Becky's sister, Joe. For her, the very word

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<v Speaker 1>was like a gut punch. But as she looked around

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<v Speaker 1>the table, Joe saw their parents were struggling to even

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<v Speaker 1>place the name.

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<v Speaker 8>It felt like people were trying to remember Leticia, like

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<v Speaker 8>it was this hazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone held little snippets. Letitia drove a red car. Letitia

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<v Speaker 1>had small hands. Letitia was very beautiful. As the family

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<v Speaker 1>batted around half memories, Joe remained quiet. Becky watched the

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<v Speaker 1>emotions sweep over her sister's face.

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<v Speaker 5>Across the table in this very loud restaurant, I just

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<v Speaker 5>got this wave of sadness about Letitia.

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<v Speaker 1>Leticia was Becky and Joe's babysitter until one day twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, when she suddenly vanished from their lives as

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<v Speaker 1>movie producers. Becky and Joe's parents worked long hours and

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<v Speaker 1>were rarely home, so from the time they were toddlers

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<v Speaker 1>until they were young teens, the girls were looked after

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<v Speaker 1>by a parade of babysitters, one after the other.

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<v Speaker 7>We had a babysitter named Melissa.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a babysitter named Robin.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a babysitter named Mae.

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<v Speaker 8>We had a babysitter named Candide.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't remember too much about Audriana.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen babysitters in total, sixteen young women lurking in the

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<v Speaker 1>background of family photographs, dimly remembered each odd in their

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<v Speaker 1>own way.

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<v Speaker 7>Helena, she was kind of an asshole.

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<v Speaker 8>She ended up falling in love with this exterminator that

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<v Speaker 8>came to our apartment when we had fleas.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the babysitter who joined a cult.

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<v Speaker 7>She just said, now, my name is Mollie.

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<v Speaker 1>The babysitter who performed Reichi treatment on Becky. The babysitter

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<v Speaker 1>who lied about a death in the family to scam

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<v Speaker 1>travel money. Aislyn Aislyn Aislin brought Becky and Joe onto

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<v Speaker 1>the front lawn one day and taught them a ten

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<v Speaker 1>year old and a six year old had to put

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<v Speaker 1>a condom on a banana.

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<v Speaker 4>And let us like pick a flavor of condom.

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<v Speaker 8>I just remember looking over across the lawn and seeing

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<v Speaker 8>my sister, who looked so small to me, tasting a

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<v Speaker 8>like grape flavored condom.

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<v Speaker 6>Also just going out on the lawn part like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, did you have a banana tree outside?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope? Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky and Joe's parents were always absent, so while the

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<v Speaker 1>caretaking fell to the babysitters. They fed the girls when

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<v Speaker 1>they were hungry, comforted them when they were upset, became

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<v Speaker 1>integral to their lives, and then after a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months they usually left. It walloped Joe each.

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<v Speaker 4>Time to have all these women come and go and

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<v Speaker 4>choose to go.

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<v Speaker 8>It kind of felt as though, you know, they were

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<v Speaker 8>hired to be our friend, and then we were just

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<v Speaker 8>too much, or there was something that was too much

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<v Speaker 8>to even make money worth being our friend.

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<v Speaker 4>I just really felt like I had no one.

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<v Speaker 1>But then came someone, neither Becky nor Joke and a

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<v Speaker 1>recall where Leticia came from. She just showed up one

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<v Speaker 1>day as glamorous as a movie star. Joe, ten years

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<v Speaker 1>old at the time, was dazzled.

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<v Speaker 8>She was everything that I kind of wished I was

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<v Speaker 8>in a teenage girl. Her hair was straight and I

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<v Speaker 8>wanted to straighten my hair and long nails, and I

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<v Speaker 8>bit my nails. She wore spaghetti straps, and she was

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<v Speaker 8>like a grown up popular girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And what set her apart was how she made the

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<v Speaker 1>girls feel like they were friends. She brought them to

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<v Speaker 1>her home to meet her mom. She took them to

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<v Speaker 1>the beach and to the mall and taught them how

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<v Speaker 1>to apply lip gloss. Letitia seemed impossibly cool. Becky and

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<v Speaker 1>Joe remember her showing up late one time and explaining

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<v Speaker 1>that she just crashed into a cop car. The girls

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<v Speaker 1>were in awe. Even her music was cool. There was

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<v Speaker 1>one song in particular that she loved to play, that.

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<v Speaker 8>Aliyah song are you that somebody with the baby sample

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<v Speaker 8>in it?

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<v Speaker 4>You know that like dirty so here we go? You

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<v Speaker 4>know that song?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it. I make a mental note to

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for Spotify to listen to the song, just

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I figure out how to connect to

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 8>Letitia choreographed this dance for us.

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<v Speaker 6>Just like this weird thing that we would like do

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<v Speaker 6>with our hands.

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<v Speaker 8>In the car we were seated. Me and Becky still

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<v Speaker 8>remember it and we can do it like on.

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<v Speaker 6>Cue, driving in the car listening to that song and

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<v Speaker 6>doing that dance, feeling cool and close to both of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Kind of felt like I was like riding along with

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<v Speaker 6>like two older, cooler girls. I always idolized my sister, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was like your older sister's older sister kind of.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Letitia would just like lie on Joe's bed with her

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<v Speaker 6>like kind of like on her stomach like pillow, talking

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<v Speaker 6>sharing secrets or something. I think that Letitia genuinely, like

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<v Speaker 6>really loved my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia made them feel like she'd be sticking around, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, she only stayed a couple months, and

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<v Speaker 1>of all the departures of all their babysitters, Letitia's was

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<v Speaker 1>the most brutally abrupt. The last day Becky and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>ever saw Letitia, they were all hanging out in the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>and when thinking about what drove Letitia away, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the moment Joe always returns to. It was after school

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<v Speaker 1>and Letitia was making her a smoothie.

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<v Speaker 8>I accidentally I knocked over the smoothie. I was just

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<v Speaker 8>so excitable around her and she kind of dropped her

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<v Speaker 8>knees and I tried to help her pick it up,

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<v Speaker 8>and she seemed pissed, and she was like, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rest of the day, Letitia seemed distant. The

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<v Speaker 1>next afternoon, as always, Becky and Joe waited for Letitia

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<v Speaker 1>to pick them up outside their elementary school.

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<v Speaker 4>We just didn't see her car and we were waiting.

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<v Speaker 7>She was sometimes late.

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<v Speaker 8>You were like, oh, it's okay, Like five minutes, she's

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<v Speaker 8>just really late.

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<v Speaker 1>Five minutes turned to ten, turned to half an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe took a seat on the grass, and then so

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<v Speaker 1>did Becky. Other cars came and went an hour, an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half. As the school emptied out, it

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<v Speaker 1>took on a far away, ghostly quality.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember the light changing, also Becky's face changing and

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<v Speaker 8>looking more to me. Becky's face to me was a

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<v Speaker 8>huge emotional compass because she was so much younger than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's first impulse in scary, uncharted situations was to reassure

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<v Speaker 1>herself by reassuring her sister. She'd explain to Becky what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on or tell her things would be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But sitting on the front lawn of their empty school.

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<v Speaker 1>As night approached, Joe wasn't sure things would be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine there was nothing more to do than hold

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<v Speaker 1>her little sister's hand.

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<v Speaker 6>Two or three hours went by, and we were like

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<v Speaker 6>sitting on the grass, like both of us just crying.

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<v Speaker 6>Then like it really setting in that like she's not coming.

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<v Speaker 6>I remember thinking too, like maybe she died. I think

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<v Speaker 6>I knew by her not coming to pick us up,

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<v Speaker 6>that like she was gone, like she was not going

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<v Speaker 6>to be in our life anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And she wasn't. After waiting several hours, the girls phoned

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<v Speaker 1>their mom, who instructed them to walk to a nearby

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<v Speaker 1>friend's house. Maybe in the end, Letitia hadn't loved them,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was just a job. Letitia was gone without explanation,

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<v Speaker 1>but Joe knew it had to be because of that smoothie.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the case, By the very next day, Letitia had

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<v Speaker 1>been replaced Becky and Joe's mom had worked to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to.

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<v Speaker 8>The problem was solved the way our parents looked at it,

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<v Speaker 8>which was, you know, they're okay, they have supervision.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was just so heartbroken.

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<v Speaker 1>Even all these years later, when Joe talks about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the language of a first breakup. Letitia's disappearance

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<v Speaker 1>even comes up in therapy with each new relationships, biggest

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<v Speaker 1>fear is that the person she's with might suddenly disappear,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Leticia did. Since that family dinner, Becky hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to forget the sadness on her sister's face,

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<v Speaker 1>But whenever Becky prods her about it, Joe brushes it

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<v Speaker 1>off or changes the subject. But Becky knows her sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and she can tell she's hurting, and she wants to help.

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<v Speaker 1>As the older sister, Joe took care of Becky. Becky's

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<v Speaker 1>now twenty seven and Joe is thirty. She's still the

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<v Speaker 1>older sister, but Becky feels the time has come for

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<v Speaker 1>her to take care of Joe. If Leticia's out there,

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<v Speaker 1>Becky wants to find her and ask what happened that day?

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky doesn't know where Leticia came from or where she

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<v Speaker 1>might have gone. She's not even sure of Leticia's last name,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why Becky has chosen to wade into that

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<v Speaker 1>swamp of collective memory known as the family storage Unit.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 5>There's only so much time I can spend in here,

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<v Speaker 5>just like because I know how many rats.

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<v Speaker 8>Are in here.

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<v Speaker 1>The storage unit isn't lit, and Becky forgot her flashlight

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<v Speaker 1>at home, so she uses the light on her phone

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<v Speaker 1>to scope out the room. Inside her boxes piled atop

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<v Speaker 1>each other, containing years and years worth of old school assignments,

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<v Speaker 1>VHS tapes, and birthday cards from barely remembered family friends you.

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<v Speaker 5>Just made up in here that's like twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>She's here to find Joe's childhood address book. When Joe

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, the way that some people might collect autographs,

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<v Speaker 1>she collected addresses, so every time she met someone new,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe would scrawl their address into a little book with

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<v Speaker 1>a hologram dog on the cover. Becky is hoping the

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<v Speaker 1>book contains Letitia's full name and an address, any clues

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<v Speaker 1>to help agin the search everyway. While digging around in

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<v Speaker 1>the dim light, Becky finds one of Joe's old journals

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<v Speaker 1>with entries dated from around the time of Letitia. She

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<v Speaker 1>sits down in the child sized chair she used to

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<v Speaker 1>use in her family's old living room and realizes a

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<v Speaker 1>dream long held by little sisters everywhere. With Joe's permission,

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<v Speaker 1>she opens her older sister's diary and explores the once

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<v Speaker 1>carefully guarded pages.

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<v Speaker 7>The summer twenty first, two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear we Both, Joe named her diary Webo, after the

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<v Speaker 1>robot in flubber.

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<v Speaker 5>Bush is our new president they told us about a

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<v Speaker 5>week ago. Anyways, I have a totally new crush. It's

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<v Speaker 5>Justin Timberly. He is so hot.

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<v Speaker 7>I love him.

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<v Speaker 5>She declares on December twenty third, nineteen ninety nine, that

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<v Speaker 5>her relationship with Leonardo DiCaprio is over.

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<v Speaker 4>She says, ps.

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<v Speaker 7>Leo is over too. He is a part in my

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<v Speaker 7>French gay Lord.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the new Jojo and I'm a single exclamation point.

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<v Speaker 1>With Leo and Justin, Joe created a fantasy of the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect boyfriend, and as Becky reads further, she wonders if

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<v Speaker 1>with Letitia, Joe had created a fantasy of the perfect mom,

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<v Speaker 1>a mother who would always be around for her.

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<v Speaker 5>Dear Weebo, mom is going away tomorrow. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 7>Again.

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<v Speaker 5>For four days, which is usually extended to six days,

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<v Speaker 5>she never thinks about time with her family. I love

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<v Speaker 5>her so much, and she's mostly away from me. Work, work, work,

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<v Speaker 5>And every Saturday night she goes out with my dad.

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<v Speaker 5>I just spend the scraps of time with her that

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<v Speaker 5>I have.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Alone in the dim light of the storage unit, Becky

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<v Speaker 1>puts the journal down and continues her search, but after

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<v Speaker 1>digging around for a couple hours, she gives up. She

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<v Speaker 1>can't find the address book. It seemed like the storage

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<v Speaker 1>unit had been a dead end, but a few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>Becky phones with some good news. She'd taken Joe's journal

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<v Speaker 1>home to keep searching for clues, and she found some.

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<v Speaker 7>There are a.

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<v Speaker 5>Couple entries that mentioned Leticia, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>First mention of Leticia is from the day she showed up,

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<v Speaker 1>which was also the day the previous babysitter left.

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<v Speaker 5>Dear wee Bo. Today I found out some bad news.

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<v Speaker 5>Sylvia is leaving. I'm trying not to make a big

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<v Speaker 5>deal about it because I don't want to make Sylvia

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<v Speaker 5>feel guilty. The new babysitter is Letitia. She's really nice

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<v Speaker 5>and she's nineteen years old. August third, nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Letitia and I have found one thing in common. We're

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<v Speaker 5>planning a Leo Knight. We both love Leonardo DiCaprio, love Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>And what else do you have?

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<v Speaker 5>There there's September sixth, nineteen ninety eight. Dear wee bo,

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<v Speaker 5>Today Letitia's coming to babysit. I love Letitia. She's the best.

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<v Speaker 5>She's one of those babysitters that actually does stuff with you,

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<v Speaker 5>like For one, she will take you to the pier.

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<v Speaker 5>Two she goes on the rides. A lot of my

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<v Speaker 5>old babysitters weaseled themselves off the rides, but not Letitia.

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<v Speaker 5>She rocks. She's coming at one.

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<v Speaker 1>But only a few weeks later, Letitia was gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe her disappearance was so painful that it led

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<v Speaker 1>into the departures of the babysitters that followed.

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<v Speaker 5>Dear wee bo, a'sln and Hillary are leaving. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want them to go, while at least they told us,

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<v Speaker 5>unlike Letitia, we need to find a babysitter that will

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<v Speaker 5>actually stay. I gotta go to school. I love you, Joey.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, in a diary entry written months after Letitia's disappearance,

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<v Speaker 1>Becky discovers proof that her sister's heartbreak went beyond merely

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<v Speaker 1>writing about Leticia. She was also writing to Letitia. The

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<v Speaker 1>substance of Joe's letters was always the same, I miss

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<v Speaker 1>you and I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I wrote a letter to Letitia. It says I still

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<v Speaker 5>love you, and today I got a letter in the mail,

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<v Speaker 5>but it turned out to be an advertisement. I really

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<v Speaker 5>want to track her down.

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<v Speaker 1>All told, Joe wrote Letitia about a half a dozen letters.

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia ever responded, and now twenty years later, it's Becky

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to track her down. According to Joe's diary,

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia was nineteen and attending a nearby college when she

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<v Speaker 1>became their babysitter, so present day, Letitia would now be

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<v Speaker 1>forty years old and possibly an alumna of the local college.

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<v Speaker 1>Armed with this, I start dialing Letitia's by the dozens.

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<v Speaker 1>An excellent dialer, I dial with confidence, leaving dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>messages but receiving no responses.

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<v Speaker 3>Until Yeah, I just received a call from this number.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hi, yeah, I was looking for Letitia.

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<v Speaker 3>What what is this called? Pertaining too well?

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<v Speaker 5>I uh.

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<v Speaker 1>While strong at the dialing part, my weakness has always

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<v Speaker 1>been the part that comes immediately after. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of people who wanted to reconnect. She was a part

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<v Speaker 1>of their past. Is this the right phone number?

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<v Speaker 5>Or sorry?

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<v Speaker 3>Who would that be? Who would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>She was their babysitter in the late nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, that's interesting. Okay, I will pass the message along.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. So this this, this is Letitia's number.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not, it's my number.

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<v Speaker 1>At any rate, if you're in touch with her or

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<v Speaker 1>what have you, you know, she.

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<v Speaker 4>Could give me a call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, thank you, bye bye. Was the hedgy

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<v Speaker 1>owl man going to deliver my message to Letitia? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was he merely some basement apartment bachelor taking a break

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<v Speaker 1>from opening cans of chili to have a little fun

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<v Speaker 1>at my expense Because I have no other leads. I wait,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one afternoon a week later, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>call back. So once again I unholster my trustee dialing

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<v Speaker 1>finger and get ready to deliver some news. Hey, Joe, Hey, Becky. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have some news to share. I found Leticia.

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<v Speaker 5>Holy s what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Holy shit balls?

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<v Speaker 1>After the break, the holiest shitball of all Letitia.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to see.

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<v Speaker 1>We've arranged meat at a place near Letitia's house to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what happened that day long ago. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that Letitia still lives in the same neighborhood where

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<v Speaker 1>she used to babysit Becky and Joe. The sisters are

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<v Speaker 1>the first to arrive, so it's just supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming soon. Do you want to sit there?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>And because I thought I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would sit here, And after detailing my elaborate seating chart,

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<v Speaker 1>I offer refreshments. I have some water and glasses for

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<v Speaker 1>the water. We fall into a nervous quiet. Joe swimming

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<v Speaker 1>in decades old emotions seems especially unsettled.

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<v Speaker 8>When you said you found her, I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know this person at all. It's so like

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<v Speaker 8>the last time I saw her was the last time

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<v Speaker 8>I saw her, Like, it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Like And then we wait and wait and wait. Becky

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe sit on the couch, side by side, listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the cars pass by. Five minutes turns to ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen, until finally a knock at the door.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia has a warm smile and blonde highlights in her hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on in, Joe are here. Oh great.

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<v Speaker 9>Before the last time I saw you, you were just kids.

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<v Speaker 1>As per my seating arrangement, Becky and Joe are on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch. Leticia sits down on the chair opposite them,

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<v Speaker 1>So I maybe we can. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>to start exactly, but maybe maybe what with all my

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<v Speaker 1>planning out the seating arrangement, which so far seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be working like a charm, I hadn't come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a plan for how to actually begin a babysitter baby sadded, reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>So I figure we should begin at the beginning with

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<v Speaker 1>how Letitia came to be hired in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember, like there being an interview. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember initial impressions of.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think I.

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<v Speaker 9>Found a posting maybe on Craigslist. I want to say

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<v Speaker 9>I did. I interviewed with your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but didn't come up in the interview, Letitia says,

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<v Speaker 1>is how big the job would be. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>looking after Becky and Joe. She also had to do

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<v Speaker 1>the cooking and house cleaning. Letitia was barely out of

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<v Speaker 1>high school and clearly in over her head. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of a tumultuous period in her life.

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<v Speaker 9>When I started to work with you girls, it was

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<v Speaker 9>like I was going through like a breakup and like

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<v Speaker 9>just my whole world kind of felt like it was

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<v Speaker 9>just you know, unraveling, you know, it was just like

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<v Speaker 9>it was overwhelming. I remember it being so difficult for

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<v Speaker 9>me to get out of my car and like walk

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<v Speaker 9>across the street because I felt so uncomfortable under the

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<v Speaker 9>glare of like the people just looking at me crossing

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<v Speaker 9>the street. I don't know, I felt very like vulnerable

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<v Speaker 9>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia began to overeat compulsively, and when she gained weight,

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<v Speaker 1>it filled her with self hatred to Becky and Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>So Letitia was the definition of cool, but in reality

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>she was barely keeping it together. Even the inspiring story

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<v Speaker 1>about crashing into a cop car was less a middle

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 1>finger to the man and more symptom of being trapped

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<v Speaker 1>in her own head.

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<v Speaker 9>I remember like breaking down in tears because for some

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<v Speaker 9>reason I thought I was going to like go to

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<v Speaker 9>jail or something because I hit a police officer.

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<v Speaker 1>When Letitia stopped getting her period, she knew something had

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<v Speaker 1>to be really wrong. So finally she went to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 9>And it was the doctor who told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I think you're depressed. And suddenly when he said that,

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<v Speaker 9>it was like, oh my god, yes, of course, like

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<v Speaker 9>that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, Letitia would crawl out of that depression, but it

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<v Speaker 1>would take her a decade to do it.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, I wish I would have had the courage

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<v Speaker 9>to come back and speak to you both in person.

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<v Speaker 9>So I was really excited and happy to hear that

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, you guys had reached it out.

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<v Speaker 1>For Letitia, the day she didn't pick up the girls

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<v Speaker 1>from school was just one more bad day and a

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>long blur of bad days. But for Becky and Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the day they keep coming back to, one of

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the worst of their childhood. Even if Letitia was depressed,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>why did she have to abandon them without a word

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<v Speaker 1>of warning? Didn't she care that they'd be left waiting

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>all alone? Joe can't bring herself to raise the question,

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>so Becky steps up and tries to explain the day

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<v Speaker 1>for both of them.

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<v Speaker 5>We sat together on the grass, and I just remember

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<v Speaker 5>like the last car, like and then sort of this

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<v Speaker 5>panic setting in of.

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<v Speaker 7>Like we're alone, and like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>We waited a really long time, and I remember being

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 5>worried that, like you were okay.

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Becky looks over at Joe. Just like when they were kids,

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they study each other's faces, looking for direction, trying to

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>figure out their next move.

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<v Speaker 8>Tentatively, Joe, Yeah, I mean that that is what happened.

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>But Letitia looks confused. She offers her version of the day.

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>She'd been unable to get out of bed for most

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<v Speaker 1>of the morning, telling herself that she had to go

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to work, and yet she couldn't possibly go to work.

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<v Speaker 1>This was when she picked up the phone and dialed

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Becky and Joe's parents.

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<v Speaker 9>I called them and told them that I was going

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<v Speaker 9>to be and this was before your school ended, that

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<v Speaker 9>I was sick.

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<v Speaker 4>But I did call. Of course.

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<v Speaker 9>I called and told them, and this was before your

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<v Speaker 9>school was out, that I'm sick, and I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I wasn't going.

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<v Speaker 4>To come in that day.

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<v Speaker 7>And that wasn't the day.

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<v Speaker 9>That was that day.

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<v Speaker 8>No one ever told us that at all. We really

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<v Speaker 8>didn't know, we really and it's been I'm.

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<v Speaker 7>Thirty years old.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean like I've gone my whole life thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>That that was not a part of it.

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<v Speaker 7>The fact that you called that she.

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<v Speaker 8>Knew that you weren't coming is so absolutely bonkers to me.

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<v Speaker 8>I think I felt at the time like it was

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<v Speaker 8>it was me and Becky, like we were just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky and Joe reach out for each other's hands.

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<v Speaker 8>As Joe continues, according to the I mean my mom

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<v Speaker 8>was like, I don't know what happened, Like truly, that's

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<v Speaker 8>what we thought happened.

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<v Speaker 7>We thought that you just disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia tells them that she'd only meant to call in

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<v Speaker 1>sick for one day, but that their mom had grown

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<v Speaker 1>so upset that Leticia, in her fragile state, felt like

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't ever return, and so began Joe's letter writing campaign.

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<v Speaker 8>I after you left, wrote like countless letters to you,

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<v Speaker 8>and I remember my mom had all the stamps.

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<v Speaker 4>And she would mail my letters.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe looks at Letitia again. She struggles to ask the

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<v Speaker 1>thing she really wants to know, why didn't you ever

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<v Speaker 1>respond to me? But before she has to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and say it, Letitia jumps in, I.

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<v Speaker 9>Didn't get any letters. I never received any letters.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe takes in Letitia's words and speaks in a whisper.

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<v Speaker 8>That makes me so mad, Like it's just genuinely confusing,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean anger, But like I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like, why.

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<v Speaker 1>Why hadn't Becky and Joe's mom mailed the letters? And

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<v Speaker 1>why hadn't she told the girls that Letitia had actually

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<v Speaker 1>phoned that.

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<v Speaker 10>Day that that is not my memory of what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I reach out to Becky and Joe's mom, Julia to

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<v Speaker 1>ask her memory of the day is foggy, but she

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<v Speaker 1>does not remember getting a call from Letitia.

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<v Speaker 10>As I remember it, I just got a call from

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<v Speaker 10>someone at school saying nobody came to pick up your kids,

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<v Speaker 10>and that felt like the worst thing I had ever done,

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<v Speaker 10>in letting my kids down.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia also doesn't remember being given any letters to mail, regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>she wouldn't have been mailing them in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, Joe knew where the stamp drawer was. Julia

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<v Speaker 1>remembers the time of Letitia's employment as one of worry

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<v Speaker 1>and stress. She was producing about a half a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>film projects at the time and was always exhausted. She

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<v Speaker 1>kept long hours during the week, and on weekends she

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<v Speaker 1>read the scripts that arrived at her doorstep in a

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<v Speaker 1>huge pile.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't feel I had to apologize to my girls

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<v Speaker 10>for having a career, but I did see that they

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<v Speaker 10>kind of resented it, and I could understand why because

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<v Speaker 10>it did take me away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia herself understands what it means to grow up with

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<v Speaker 1>an absent mom. Her own mother was a New York

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<v Speaker 1>talent agent who was always distracted with work and handed

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<v Speaker 1>her off to a series of housekeepers.

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<v Speaker 10>And I had my own memories of what I resented,

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<v Speaker 10>like my mother did not get up in the moment.

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<v Speaker 10>She liked to sleep late, and so she didn't get

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<v Speaker 10>up in the morning when my brother and I went

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<v Speaker 10>to school, so our lunches were always made by the housekeeper.

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<v Speaker 4>I just remember.

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<v Speaker 10>Wishing that my mother had made my lunch herself. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>when I became a mom, I think I hoped I

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<v Speaker 10>would do better, But when I got there myself, I

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<v Speaker 10>saw how hard it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was always sure to make the girl's lunches herself,

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<v Speaker 1>taking care to drop a note in saying she was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of them, that she loved them. As for the

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<v Speaker 1>other household chores, it seems like a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>fell to the young women she hired for Julia, being

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for the cooking and cleaning while working a more

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<v Speaker 1>than full time job was too hard, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>made even harder by an agreement struck with her husband

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<v Speaker 1>early on in their marriage.

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<v Speaker 10>My husband, I mean, it was clear he never wanted

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<v Speaker 10>kids as much as I did, and I think he

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<v Speaker 10>loved them once they got here, but it was my deal,

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<v Speaker 10>and I was fully one hundred percent responsible for all

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<v Speaker 10>child's care duties and everything, and that was something that

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<v Speaker 10>was a bit of a problem in my marriage, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>which ultimately ended in divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia says that when she envisions Becky and Joe sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the school lawn embracing as the sky turned dark,

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<v Speaker 1>she can't help but remember the day she sat her

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<v Speaker 1>daughters down to tell them that she and their dad

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<v Speaker 1>were divorcing. Becky was eighteen by then and Joe twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia remembers them holding on to each other while she

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<v Speaker 1>broke the news. Well, Julia thought, at least they've got

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and I.

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<v Speaker 10>Felt like they're together, They're gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you were ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, because after hearing what their mom remembers, Becky

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe say that there's probably no way to ever

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure what happened. Back then. Julia was just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to survive, and so was Leticia. They each remember

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<v Speaker 1>things differently, and some things they don't remember at all.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember making a smoothie with you and spilling the

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<v Speaker 8>blender and I thought that was the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>When Joe brings up the spilled smoothie, this painful regret

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<v Speaker 1>she's carried with her well into adulthood, Latitia tells her

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<v Speaker 1>that she has no recollection of any smoothies at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Joe pulls out another pivotal memory.

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<v Speaker 8>I have a question, do you remember that Alia dance?

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<v Speaker 4>We're doing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia shakes her head. She doesn't remember, but the sisters do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another moment that they still carry with them, that

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<v Speaker 1>only they.

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<v Speaker 4>Share, Like I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so adorable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was like.

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<v Speaker 1>The sisters mirror each other's hand movements, they fall into

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:02.359
<v Speaker 1>the dance automatically. They're enjoying themselves and each other.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just went again, that so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Aliah song are you that somebody? Aliah poses

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<v Speaker 1>a question, are you that somebody? Because of a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi situation. I've yet to listen to the song,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know whether Aliah ever gets her answer answer,

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<v Speaker 1>But watching Becky and Joe, it's clear they've gotten their answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky and Joe's somebody was neither babysitter nor parent. The

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<v Speaker 1>one constant the sister's always had was each other.

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<v Speaker 7>I care a lot about my sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I mean we're closer now than I think ever.

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<v Speaker 8>And Becky's one of the closest people to me in

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<v Speaker 8>my life and my hero.

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<v Speaker 9>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, issue Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Letitia gets a call from the hedgie man, who it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out is also her husband. Their nineteen month old

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<v Speaker 1>daughter is having a meltdown and their six year old

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<v Speaker 1>daughter needs to be picked up from school, so Letitia

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<v Speaker 1>has to rush off. They all make plans to get

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<v Speaker 1>together soon, but for now, Letitia needs to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of her daughters, and Becky and Joe for their part,

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<v Speaker 1>head out together into a beautiful la afternoon, doing their

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<v Speaker 1>best to keep taking care of each other. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>the furnitures returning.

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<v Speaker 7>To its goodwill home, now that the last month's rent

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<v Speaker 7>is scheming.

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<v Speaker 1>With the damage to pozzle, take this moment to dissolve.

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<v Speaker 4>If we meant it, if we tried. We felt around

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<v Speaker 4>for far too from things that accidentally.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Heavyweight was produced by Khalila Holt and

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<v Speaker 1>me Jonathan Goldstein, along with Stevie Lane Nba Parker. The

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<v Speaker 1>show is edited by Jorha Special thanks to Emily Condon,

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<v Speaker 1>Lulu Miller, Annah Sullivan Kate Parkinson, Morgan Matilde, Urfelino, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Cohen. Bobby Lord makes the episode with original music

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<v Speaker 1>by Christine Fellows, John K. Sampson and Bobby Lord. Additional

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<v Speaker 1>music credits can be found on our website, gimbletmedia dot

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