WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Rendlesham Forest Incident 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.439 Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:21.319 we simply don't know the answer too. Well. Hey there, 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:26.560 and welcome to Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Steve, as always, 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.200 joined by my lovely co host Joe and Devin. He 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.159 was obviously talking about Devin, not Joe. Joe is the 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:40.960 lovely one man, you know. I mean you're not bad looking. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.120 I mean, don't take it too personally. Yeah, you're just 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.760 not as pretty as me. It's that really went off 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:52.680 the rails fast. Ye okay, oak. Well, today, as always, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.920 we have another mystery to look into, and unfortunately, Joe, 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.920 we are not going to solve this. I'm pretty positive 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.080 right off the top. You do think so, I don't 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.600 think so well, I don't know. I think we will. Well, 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.880 what we're gonna talk about is we're going to talk 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:13.119 about the Randelshom Forrest incident. Randelshom Forrest incident. No, you're 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.320 not saying right what I am not doing an accent? 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:17.880 Yeah you have to you have to do your best 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.440 English accent. My accents are herod, you know, they always 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.960 they always end up sounding Irish or Asian and it's awesome. No, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.600 I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it not doing it? Okay. Well, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.920 before we get into this episode, I do want to 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.520 send out a thanks to Ali who sent this in. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.600 And he sent this in months ago and I kind 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.200 of called DIBs on it. But this is one of 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.440 those stories that I have to sit on for a 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.400 long time because there's a lot of conflicting information. It's 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:53.720 an unsolved mystery egg being a being a UFO story. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.280 It's not just conflicting information, but also a lot of 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.080 a lot of stuff. There's a lot of fantastic retelling, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.800 and so it was it took me a long time 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.880 to kind of boil things down and and figure it out. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.320 But it's a great story, and I'm really glad I 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.480 got sent in because I really enjoyed it once I 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.840 got my head buried in and really started digging into it. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:22.280 In Ostrich got it. Wow, what okay? Well, our story 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.959 takes place in England, as Devon briefly alluded to there 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.000 in the beginning with her request of my terrible accents, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.000 and it's in an area called the Rendals from Forest, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.000 which is on the east coast of England. It's I 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:40.240 believe about sixty miles south of London, so it's kind 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.239 of in that region. Now, before we get into the story, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.240 there's a couple of details that are important to know, 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:52.680 which is this happened in nine eight and since nineteen 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.840 forty one, the United States Air Force has had an 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.760 agreement with the British government UH and they maintain air 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.240 bases in the UK. The number of air bases have fluctuated, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.120 but they've been going down for like thirty years. But 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.799 at the time, the U. S. Air Force was using 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.680 what they referred to as the Twin Bases, and those 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:20.560 were bent Waters and Woodbridge and they're about two miles apart. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:27.360 On the night of December so Christmas, which is in 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.800 a couple of days for everybody listening to this, if 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.080 you listen to it first comes out, lights were reported 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.360 in the area of Reynoldshom and other places in the country. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:44.520 There were streaking lights in the sky, well there were 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.680 people didn't know exactly what they were at first, but 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:54.640 they were streaking lights that morning the December at about 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.560 three o'clock in the morning. And if you do the 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.360 research on this, this is gets a little confusing because 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:06.080 you'll see the first incident reported as the t and 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.280 and we'll get into why that is here shortly, but 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.360 strange lights were reported by the security patrols at the 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.479 east gate of the R. A. F. Woodbridge, which is 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:21.880 the Royal Air Force Base. Evidently these lights were descending 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.920 into Rentalsom Forest and at first the airman thought that 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.479 it was a down airplane, but after they went to 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.960 investigate it, they saw, and this is according to the 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.880 official documents, a strange glowing object that was metallic in 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:43.640 appearance with orange colored lights. And as they approached the object, 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.240 it moved through the trees and the animals quote and 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.320 this is a quote, the animals in the nearby farm 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.680 went into a frenzy. So this is at three am. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.839 They go to check this out. At four o'clock in 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.719 the morning. The effect police are called in and there 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.240 the local jurisdiction and they reported that the only light 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.599 that they saw in the area was from the Orford 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.920 Nest Lighthouse, which is five miles away. It's actually right 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.880 on the coast obviously because the lighthouse and being a lighthouse, 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.839 it's light is meant to be seen from far far away. Correct, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.600 very true in the morning, so this is in the 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:30.160 daylight hours of the December. These airmen returned to the 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.919 clearing where they had seen the lights, and they find 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.720 these three small impressions that are in kind of a 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:45.120 triangular pattern on the ground. They also reported that there 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.039 were burn marks on the trees and that there were 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.840 broken branches from those trees on the ground. What they 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.640 did is they took plaster casts of these impressions that 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.080 they found on Yeah it makes sense, Hey, this is 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.279 a weird hole in the Let's just take a cast 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:07.880 of the impressions. By the way, they're very shallow, very 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.920 very shallow. As a matter of fact, at like ten 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.600 thirty that morning, the local police came out again, uh, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.840 to see these supposed impressions in the ground, and they 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:23.640 were like, uh, yeah, that's totally made by a digging animal. Yeah, 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.719 the rabbitis They thought it was like a rabbit or 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.760 something was digging in the ground. So this happens, and 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.680 then the next day, so now we move forward to 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:40.720 the December and this goes between Thember. A group of 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:46.360 servicemen and their commanding officer, whose name is Lieutenant Colonel 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.600 Charles Halt. They returned to the site and they attempt 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.359 to figure out what's going on because evidently the lights 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:56.000 had come back, and so they go out to check 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.360 it out. These lights were slightly different than the guy 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.599 saw the first night, because they were not only orange, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.320 there were white and blue lights as well. Did the 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.520 guys who were out that first night go out the 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:13.520 second night too? You know, I cannot find any description 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.000 that says so the guys that went out on the 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:22.280 first night they are, oh gosh, what's their names? It is, uh, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.280 Peniston and Burrows. I can't. I find all kinds of 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.320 information about Peniston and Burrows on the first night. I 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.600 find nothing about them the second night, So I can't say. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.360 But Halt went out with a whole troop of guys, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.720 so they may have been there, but I can't corroborate that. Okay, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.320 you would think the Peniston at least would have been there. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.600 You would think that, hey, I saw this before. You 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.200 want me to go with you and see if it's 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.680 the same thing. Yeah, because of what he reports he saw, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.040 which we'll talk about a little later, I'm sure. Yeah, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.280 you think you'd be interested in going on seeing it again. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.559 You would totally think so. At this point, they're out there, 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.920 and this is where the confusion about the dates comes from. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:08.120 And this is all Lieutenant Colonel Halt's fault. He evidently 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.960 didn't write his report for two weeks, so when he 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.720 wrote the actual official report that he turned in, people 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.000 speculate that he got the dates wrong. So he said 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.640 that the first incident happened on the twenty seven and 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.280 not the six, So he his dates. So that's why 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.760 when you read it and I I see these dates 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.800 mixed up all over the place. When I was researching this, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.000 some would say it started with seven. Others would say 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.480 started on the twenty six, So it goes back and forth. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.560 What what Halt did those when he went out into 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.880 the woods and he took all these guys with him, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.040 he also took a bunch of equipment with him. Part 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:52.080 of that equipment was radiation detectors and big floodlights. I 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.480 believe they're referred to as light halls, which I'm guessing 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.679 from what I've seen. And this is the hard part. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.360 If any buddy goes out and looks us up on 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.080 the internet, you're gonna find a bunch of videos. One 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.920 of those videos is from Unsolved Mysteries, and they show 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.200 these giant generator units, but they also make a lot 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.840 of claims. So I don't know exactly what kind of 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:18.040 lighting equipment they took, but they did take big lights 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.719 supposedly with them to kind of illuminate the area to 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.760 see where they were going. Their radiation detectors when they 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.960 were out there picked up radiation in those depressions that 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.840 they had spotted on the morning of the six and 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:36.680 they also found radiation on the trees that were around 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.200 those depressions. So what Halt did, and this is a 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.480 little unprecedented but actually great for this case, is he 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:50.160 took with him a cassette recorder that a micro cassette 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.839 recorder that he was talking into the whole time, recording 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:58.720 all of the conversations. So, Okay, I'm sorry, but he 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.600 got the dates wrong when he wrote a report two 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.640 weeks later. Evidently he didn't say the dates. I don't 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.400 I don't remember him saying the dates. But yeah, he 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.760 screwed it up. Maybe he just didn't listen to the tape. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.520 I don't know how he bungled this the date, but 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.840 he did somehow he did. The great thing is that 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.280 tape is out there and anybody can listen to it. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.560 It's on YouTube, you can, and it's transcribed, so you 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.720 can find that I've listened to some of it. It's 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.040 it's a bunch of dudes walk into the woods talking, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.439 so it's it's kind of hard to follow. But he 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.720 did that, which is really great. But was there anything 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.160 significant that they say, like, well, they they they talk 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.520 and they describe as they're seeing these lights, which is 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.920 interesting and it actually comes up when we get into 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.120 some of the descriptions and the theories as to what 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.240 they might have been seeing. So it actually gives that 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.880 one clue that we normally don't get when somebody says 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.040 I saw this thing, this guy and it did this. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.640 You can actually hear them talking about it and saying, 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.760 I see it now, I see it now, there it 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.760 is there. It goes that kind of stuff. They did 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.080 have a bunch of equipment problems when they were out there, though, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.079 the light als, those big generators on wheels, the floodlights, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.800 those things kept malfunctioning and I don't know how many 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.640 they took, but they died. And they were having all 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.680 kinds of issues with their radios. And we're getting tons 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.640 of interference and static, well we get interference on work 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:27.280 radios all the time, totally normal. A lot of it 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.920 is probably, yeah. Yeah. Where Halt eventually takes his men 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.720 leads him to the edge of the forest, on the 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.160 eastern edge of the forest, and in the tape you 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.320 can hear him talk about I can see it, and 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:46.160 I see a farmhouse below us, and there's the flashing light. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.080 So he kind of gives some descriptions of where he's 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.240 going as in the tapes. So they they're on the 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.960 edge of the forest, so they eventually they eventually end 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:57.760 up on the edge of the woods. Yes, so the 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.880 light that he sees the is not in the forest, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.960 it's off in the distance or something. That's one of 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.640 the problems with this story is you hear that the 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:10.040 light is traveling around and through the trees just up ahead, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.160 and you hear the light is off in the far 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:18.280 distance and moving around through the trees. So it's it's 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.760 an issue, very big issue with this particular story, and 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.840 I don't know what the correct answer is. Halt and 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.600 his men follow the light, and they follow the light 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.959 for about an hour, at which point they say that 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:37.040 it shot up into the sky, it was flying around, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.680 it was sending lights to the ground, and then it 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:46.720 took off and just zipped away. Why. Yeah, so this 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.439 and this was all on his official report. Well that's 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.240 the great thing. They're they're all in the military, so 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:56.360 they got to write reports. So they all reported this, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:01.240 And I haven't read his report. Where's Honestly, I listened 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.080 to parts of his tape and I listened to some 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.200 of his testimony that he's given over the years. He 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.360 he says that it went up into the sky. He 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.840 says they were following it. He lists off during the 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.000 On the tape, you can hear him talking about the 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.520 radiation and calling out the levels that they're picking up, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.480 which are really small levels of radiation, but he calls 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.920 these things out. So he's calling out all this stuff 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.600 as he's going along. But I don't know exactly where 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.480 he ended up, and I don't know exactly what was 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.760 in his report, but he's he supposes is supposed to 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.240 have put all this in the reports. That's the bare 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:45.079 bones version of the story. This as any potential UFO story. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.280 We talked about this a little bit in the beginning, 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:54.560 grows and changes end. Yeah, that's why I often stare 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:59.839 away from UFO stories because they're just that's for the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:01.720 And I sat on this so long as I had 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:06.480 to work through all these de variants of the story. Um. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.760 I mean, these guys, they seemed to truly believe that 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:14.120 they saw some kind of craft of unknown origin. And 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.560 the Ministry of Defense, the m o D or the 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.400 MOD as people refer to it, got involved because it 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:28.240 was on British soil. Well, technically the jurisdiction of the U. S. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.080 Air Force ended at the gates of the base, so 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.440 when they were out in the woods they couldn't take 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.840 guns or anything like that because they were on UK soil. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.960 So when all this happened, technically they were on UK soil, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:45.160 not American soil. So they're the ones who have the 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.080 file about the incident, and the MOD has a file 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.080 on the incident, and people have pointed to the fact 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.640 that the MOD wouldn't disclose what was in that file 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:02.280 as proof that something happened and tell us what happened. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.160 It's got to be real because you recorded it. And 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.840 of course, you know, the man just said whatever. There 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:12.000 are so many reasons to like not make that stuff public. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.600 I just don't know, you know, it might just be 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.400 spite or just for the fun of it. You know, 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.160 if you got this file, you let them know there's 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.680 a file. It's a fat little file, but we're not 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:26.000 gonna let you see it and then go crazy, you know. Yeah. Man. 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.520 The other part is that the MD works at the 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.480 British business and government. Mostly. The British government works at 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.000 a completely different pace than what we're used to hear 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.400 in the States. Our our government, by no means moves fast. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.480 But the brids move much slower than we do, and 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.920 so that exasperate. It's because they put a very old 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.600 woman in charge of it. They were like, Okay, your majesty, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.160 it's time to sign a thing. Okay, after my tea, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:02.600 I will do the dogs by this very expensive glove. Yes, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.320 it's very cute. Okay, what was I supposed to do? 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:11.240 Oh I'll do it tomorrow. I'm so sorry. Oh my god, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:16.840 I'm so sorry our British listeners, Yes, we we apologize. Sorry, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:22.960 I apologize to everybody. Yeah. Well, the thing about this 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.160 what makes this story so interesting to me is twofold 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.960 one is, like I said just before, is how it's 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.680 evolved and grown, is all of these UFO based stories do. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.920 And then what's even crazier to me is how the 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.840 stories of the individuals who were involved in it have 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.800 just continued to grow and expand, and I want to 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.880 go through two of those. I want to go through 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:55.320 what I consider one of the most fantastical versions of 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.960 this story that I found on the Net, and then 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.960 I want to go through some of the stuff that 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.640 is put out there by one of the men involved. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:10.919 So the first that we're gonna start with is the net. Yeah, aliens, Yes, absolutely. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.800 Remember we talked about the two guys that went out 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.080 on the first night. It was Peniston and Burrows. Okay, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.480 according to this story, after they chased the object through 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.800 the forest, they were able to get up close with 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.959 it and they saw that it was a craft that 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.800 was triangular in shape, so basically a little pyramids. It's 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:39.119 that kind of shape. Yes, absolutely, They, according to this 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:45.280 saw small bodied, large headed being suspended from the bottom 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.760 of the craft by some kind of beam. So they 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.240 were underneath the car working on it. Yeah, they were 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.359 working on the craft and they didn't care that these 0:17:54.760 --> 0:18:00.119 silly humans were standing around staring at them. They had 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.040 a killer bot in spaceship that's gonna like vaporize something. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:11.440 More US airmen arrived and this is supposedly unofficially reported 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.800 that the people who ventured close to this craft encountered 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:21.800 strange and omalies. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Those included 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:30.000 mind bending of a reality bending effects excuse me, time displacement, 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:36.080 and surreal atmosphere conditions. I'm experiencing that right now. I 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.560 don't even get that. That doesn't matter. Do you have 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:46.000 to get it? This craft supposedly appeared from a type 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.360 of low flying clouds low lying cloud? Did I say? 0:18:50.359 --> 0:19:01.719 Flying right? A low lying cloud? And these same reports 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.520 say that senior men of the group were able to 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:10.479 approach and communicate with the aliens, but only the senior 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.320 members of the group. Well, aliens understand military hierarchy, of 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.720 course they understand. Hierarchy of all kinds is stuck up. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.679 Aliens just stuck up. They don't want to talk to 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:25.760 a mirror enlisted man. Only colonels and lieutenants or lieutenant 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.960 colonels or you know, dogs, dogs, I don't know. The 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.360 dogs might be in charge. You don't know, true cat 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.160 might be in charge. You don't know. You know. That's 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.600 a great thing. Can can we diverge for a second? 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.160 An alien comes to this planet. I think we've had 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.320 this conversation. How do they know who's in charge. They 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:49.400 may be considering this planet just rife with bright, bright minds, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.679 and they happen to be furry and sleep a lot 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.679 and have tails because they think the cats are the 0:19:55.720 --> 0:20:00.679 most intelligent species on this planet. We don't know observed us. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.600 They was noticed that the cats get you know, taken 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:08.000 care of, you know, the people we serve them. Yes, apparently, Yeah, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.640 they must be in charge, right exactly. This is why 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:17.520 there's so many cat videos on the internet. It's the aliens. Okay, Well, 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:22.439 back to back to another version that I found, and 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:27.800 it says that the object that Peniston and Burrows saw 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.679 it was metallic in appearance and again triangular in shape. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.480 It seems to be a constant in this story. It 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.199 is it is in this particular story. Yes, it was 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.960 about two to three meters across at the base, and 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.600 it illuminated the entire forest in white light and had 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.200 a pulsing red light at the top and a bank 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.840 or a series of blue lights on its bottom. A 0:20:55.040 --> 0:21:01.520 cop car. It was basically got it. And yet another 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.960 version says that on the second night, so this is 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.520 the night that Halt and his men went out, a 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:16.760 unnamed female base security officer and her partner went out 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.760 to investigate the mysterious lights and they were following it 0:21:20.800 --> 0:21:24.720 in their car when the craft shot a beam of 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:31.160 light at their vehicle, which de deactivated it. Now it's 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.680 it's alien. LoJack, totally shut that thing out. No, no, 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.840 you're just no fun. Come on. Actually, the there are 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.159 military has is working out a similar thing which is 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.080 directed and e m people's and so maybe that's what 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.199 it was. Of course, you know what I want to 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:50.120 know is today get a towed back to the base 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.800 like the mechanics accident mechanics look at it and determined 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:58.640 that the electronics have been fried. I I found nothing 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:06.639 else about that particular section, this last bit. I know 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:11.040 it's hard to believe, but on the internet us. Now 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.880 let's go to the version of the story that is 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:20.560 told by Penistin. Peniston and Burrows have both over time 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.360 expounded on their story, but I'm just going to focus 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.760 on one of them, just to try and keep this 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:31.040 as as close as possible, because otherwise this will sprawl 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:34.600 and just get out of hand. Hey, by the way, 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:39.480 sar a wiki for this Peniston guy page or now 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:44.199 there's no actual wiki page for him, but he's just 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.879 part of the Reynalshoan Forrest incident, WICKI in general, and 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.320 all the other articles that you'll find out there on 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.800 the net. Now again, just to back up, this is 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.320 his His full title at the time was Sergeant Jim Peniston. 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.160 And he said that it was a craft of unknown origin, 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.720 which is fair, which is fair. And he also he 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:14.000 says that in his report he wrote detailed notes about 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:18.679 the features of the craft, and he touched its surface 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:23.320 and it was warm, and that surface was covered in 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:29.320 kind of hieroglyphics. And now, like like, let's get this straight. 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.119 So I the way I read the story is he 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.080 had a pad and a pencil and on the spot 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:39.399 and they made detailed sketches and notes. And well, I 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.639 mean that I'm not concerned about that. I mean, like 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.639 a little like little pocket notebook and a pencil, like 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.360 you would have that if you were out on duty. 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.879 I have a notebook and a pencil in my purse 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.240 right now. I mean I'm concerned about like the convenience 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:56.159 of him having a note book. Yeah, I just he 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.040 just happens to have a notepad with him. I mean 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.000 that makes sense to me. I know plenty of people 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.240 who just carrying out paths with them, especially if you're 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:07.840 in uniform and you've got lots of pockets. He's supposedly 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.959 did these drawings and he turned them in with his report, 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:15.400 which is in the possession of the US Air Force. 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.639 Oh it's not the Brits. No, no, no, no, technically 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.000 he's still you a serviceman. He still reports to the US, 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:27.000 so they maintain all of it from him. Okay, okay, Well, 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:32.600 according to Peniston's version of it, as he and John Burrows, 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.800 that's the other guy went into the forest, and there's 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:39.040 a third airmen listed in his version by the name 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:46.800 of Edward Cabin sag. I hope that's how you say 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.520 it could be. Well, you know, it's actually it's really 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.919 easy because this guy disappears from the story from this 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:56.800 point forward, like you never here mentioned of him. God 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:01.760 farewell and unpronounce laugh. As they walk into the woods 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:06.879 to investigate the light that they're seeing, they saw a 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:13.800 nine foot by six ft triangular craft with swirling yellow 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:18.000 and blue lights hovering they say, two feet off the 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:22.400 ground approximately. Supposedly they could both feel static in the air. 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.359 That's not weird, not weird at all. No, I mean, like, 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:32.680 it's not the walk outside right now, I'm just saying there, 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:37.000 but but, but their radios were malfunctioning his version of 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:42.439 the events that might be related to it. And after 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:47.760 they observed the craft for about ten minutes, they decided 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.800 that it didn't pose any threat, and they decided to 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.800 approach it. They got close to it, and this is 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.679 where they could see those hieroglyphic symbols that were etched 0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:01.640 into the exterior of the ship. And then at some 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:06.760 point not too long after that, the ship suddenly emitted 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.680