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Speaker 1: for more details. So we've got a lot to tackle

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Speaker 1: over this next hour. We're gonna get you said for

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. It is a short turnaround and it

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a very tough matchup for the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants because they literally just released the injury report

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Speaker 1: and the following players will not be playing for Big

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Speaker 1: Blue tomorrow. They're gonna be down Stay Kwan Barkley, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be down Sterling Shepherd, They're gonna be down Evan Ingram,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be down Wayne Golman. Goldman and Shepherd

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Speaker 1: are still in concussion protocol Ingram dealing with the knee injury,

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Speaker 1: and Sa Kwan Barkley of course with the ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: So Jeff, we sort of had an inkling that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be a sizeable injury report. Literally, as

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Speaker 1: Pat Shermer spoke, he wasn't necessarily giving away any hints.

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Speaker 1: They were keeping hope alive. But given it was a

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Speaker 1: short week, you had a lot of guys banged up.

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants are thinking right now, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get these guys well arrested for ten days, and let's

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Speaker 1: focus on perhaps some of them at least returning for

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals game once they have well over a

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Speaker 1: week to regroup in recuperate. And yes, and there's really

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Speaker 1: not a lot you can do about this, and it

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Speaker 1: is what it is. You know, the guys recuperate quicker

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Speaker 1: than others. Some guys do, some kuys don't. And the

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Speaker 1: doctors tell you that you can or you can't. And

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Speaker 1: on a short week, this really hurts them because if

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Speaker 1: you figure today's Wednesday, and you got until Saturday. If

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Speaker 1: this was a Sunday game, you know you got Thursday

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Speaker 1: and Friday, you got to you got forty eight. You've

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Speaker 1: but you know, short weeks are tough, and unfortunately the

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Speaker 1: Giants got bitten by the injury bug here last game,

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Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Really, so yeah, that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: mind this is now independent doctors that are involved. It's

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Speaker 1: really out of the Giants hands, Jeff, as you well know,

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Speaker 1: so you know they have to follow procedures, they have

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Speaker 1: to follow protocol. And also Wayne Goldman suffered a concussion

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Speaker 1: to pass through protocol when remember other players it's taken

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Speaker 1: when you talk about concussions, and I've told you this before,

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Speaker 1: everybody is different when it comes to concussions. Okay, some

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Speaker 1: when they thought he got concussed on that play. Evidently

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. And also what you're touching on, Jeff spells out,

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Speaker 1: But you know, the medical staff the job for those individuals, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: Friday when we did this, I did the show with John.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about the next opponent for your moment

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Speaker 1: on third downs. Now, when you're missing you're starting two

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Speaker 1: That doesn't Riley Dixon get ready, that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: long day. Well, but you're right, it's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: critical for the Giants to find ways to put together

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Speaker 1: lengthy drives, Jeff, because to me, your best defense is

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Speaker 1: categories total defense, they're only giving up two hundred thirty

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Speaker 1: It's actually They're scoring defense is not six point eight points.

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Speaker 1: That's what's listed. But the problem is the Jets. Jeff

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Speaker 1: New England's only giving up four points per game because

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Speaker 1: eight times they were successful. I mean, it's mind boggling numbers.

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Takeaways is twelve. The Patriots are number one

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Speaker 1: tied for the most turnovers in the NFL with eleven.

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Speaker 1: So you've got the Giants here, you've got the Patriots there.

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Speaker 1: And let's take it a step further, Jeff, this is

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Speaker 1: what opposing quarterbacks have done against New England's defense. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know they haven't. I know they haven't scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. There have been touching attachdowns that have been allowed.

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Speaker 1: Nine hundred seventy nine, so fifty completion percentage, no touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: So this is not just the Patriots defense has flashed

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 1: but I think they deserve respect because of how consistently

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Speaker 1: pointing to Jeff Well, New England hasn't really gone up

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Speaker 1: against any great quarterbacks yet. Well, they've gone up against

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Speaker 1: think a lot of credit belongs to them because they

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Speaker 1: really kept him in Jack. He only had six runs

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Speaker 1: for twenty five yards. He did score a touchdown. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Jets were down to their third string quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: get it. The Dolphins through in Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen.

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Speaker 1: They played Ben Roethlisberger week one. Jeff, he's no slout.

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Speaker 1: get the players in the right position. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: welcome the Big Blue Kick Off Live. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? Hey? You is doing good? How are you? Travis?

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Speaker 1: You're right, Travis. I want to it's a pleasure and

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Speaker 1: the honor to be speaking to a potential New York

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Speaker 1: giant Hall of Things. Thank you. I appreciate that, Travis. Well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, he's Jeff Figel. So who are you

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Speaker 1: referring to? Broadcast Hall of Fame? Jeff Jeff Okay, I

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Speaker 1: just want the clarification because you know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: what you said was that obvious, But go ahead, Travis, Yes, yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk about coaching, right,

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Speaker 1: and Jeff, I'm happy you got you're here today because

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Speaker 1: you can answer my question. I thought you could take

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Speaker 1: me behind the scenes. But that's my question, right, I

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Speaker 1: want to know, uh, why is it? Like like what's

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Speaker 1: the process leading to Sunday? Whereas uh, whereas you gotta

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Speaker 1: uh like what's the peperation and the reason and the

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Speaker 1: reason the reason that question what's the preparation is because

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why Corey Ballaton and Justin Love is

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Speaker 1: not getting no playing tom It's like, but hey, he's

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Speaker 1: not doing anything that that warrants him or he has

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Speaker 1: to start right what our rookies, you know, we understands

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Speaker 1: it's growing in pain. Right. So what we've seen as

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Speaker 1: fans or I can speak for myself, what I've seen

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Speaker 1: in preseason was like okay, like like justin Love, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I see, I'm sorry, right, Junior Love, or what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do come regular season? And they made it like

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Speaker 1: they make it seem as if these guys don't know

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Speaker 1: nothing about the playbook, and that's hard to believe from

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Speaker 1: what we've seen during preseason. Well, here's the thing. I'll

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Speaker 1: it happens every year. It happens every year with draft picks. Um,

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Speaker 1: it happens with guys that make the team. Um, that

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Speaker 1: are free agents, were in the preseason. Everybody thinks that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be all pros. Right, Um, we know that

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Speaker 1: that the preseason is watered down to basically as simplistic

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Speaker 1: methods of football as you can get. So guys like

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Speaker 1: the Julian Loves of the world and the rookies that

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Speaker 1: play on a level that you feel is really good.

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Speaker 1: The coaches know that that when we get into the

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Speaker 1: regular season and we have to the teams are game

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Speaker 1: planning as against Okay, we have to go with experience. Now,

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Speaker 1: every day on the practice field, these guys, now, this

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Speaker 1: is just not this is not stuff that I'm making up.

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Speaker 1: This happens. These guys compete every single day and until

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Speaker 1: one of those guys can prove to the coaches that

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Speaker 1: they're better than what they are on the field. The

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Speaker 1: guys that are on the field they will continue to

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Speaker 1: not play until they make that push, and they will

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Speaker 1: make the push and you know what usually used but

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Speaker 1: usually I Now here's the thing you gotta I know

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Speaker 1: where you're going with this. This is your opinion and

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Speaker 1: others versus the coach's opinions. Okay, so you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to understand. And I know it's hard to do because

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Speaker 1: as fans, you feel like you feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I watched these guys on Sunday. Well, guess what all

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Speaker 1: you do is watch him on Sunday. So you gotta

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Speaker 1: be patient with these young guys. And I will tell you,

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Speaker 1: if you go back and look at the history of

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Speaker 1: they're learning constantly and the coaches don't feel comfortable putting

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Speaker 1: them in yet. Okay, now, and one more thing, just

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Speaker 1: is Hailey playing? Or why is this guy playing? When

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Speaker 1: I saw what this guy can do? Yes, you did briefly,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, like we look at DeAndre Baker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cover anything, right, but he's getting better. We're not talking

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Speaker 1: about DeAndre Baker all that much anymore. So it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a tough argument to have, and it's it's all

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Speaker 1: it takes is fan patience is what it is, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and trust me, I wanted to have it.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just like I can't see if you know,

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Speaker 1: with DeAndre Bank, what we're doing is like you said,

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Speaker 1: we're going through the pains of it, you know, like

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Speaker 1: we understand it as a long process whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be. But it's just it's like it would be

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Speaker 1: more easier for us to uh to understand and we're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, like like a perfect example, you take

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Speaker 1: Haskins right, Like again, like you said, as fans, we

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Speaker 1: see Sunday, right, So so what happened Like the way

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Speaker 1: round quarterback, right, Okay, So they put them out there

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Speaker 1: against us Sunday and when they when they put them

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Speaker 1: out there, we we wasn't shocked. It wasn't as if like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like we couldn't told rude to that,

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Speaker 1: like we knew that was gonna happen. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: ain't showing uping all preseason and we understand me, like

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Speaker 1: I just don't. It's and the call I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you another example on the

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Speaker 1: on the positive side of this. Okay, look at Darius Sleep.

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Speaker 1: Look at Darius Sleep. He's a rookie, right, He's a

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Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick or sixth round whatever it is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we heard a lot about him in training camp. We

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Speaker 1: heard a lot about him in mini camp, and and

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Speaker 1: O t s right, he got hurt in training camp.

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Speaker 1: But my point is is that it goes through what

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. They saw this guy pushing some of

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Speaker 1: these veterans, all right, and then he got hurt, and

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Speaker 1: now he's back, and what's what's he doing in practice?

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Speaker 1: He's pushing, He's pushing Lattimer. He's pushing these veterans. And

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Speaker 1: that's why you see him in there because they feel confident.

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Speaker 1: And what did he do? He's making some great plays

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Speaker 1: and some great catches. And by the way, he's your

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Speaker 1: deep threat on this team now. He's a guy that's

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Speaker 1: gonna he's a guy that's gonna get separation and get

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Speaker 1: down the field. And you got you got number eight

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Speaker 1: that can throw it. Now, he can throw the football

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Speaker 1: to him and and I'll tell you that past that

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Speaker 1: he had this weekend that was a beautiful the one

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Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay too. Oh yeah, there's some beautiful throat

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Speaker 1: and you know he's got a guy that can go

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Speaker 1: catch it. Yeah, sure, real quick, Okay, the old line

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Speaker 1: like yo Sunday, like last week, you know, the score

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Speaker 1: didn't represent the game so much like we was in

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Speaker 1: the game, uh Thursday. You know, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a wash that that. You know, there's a kiss we

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Speaker 1: can win. I'm shocked at the old line right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm really in I thought, if the old line tomorrow

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Speaker 1: can play decent, I think with Daniel Jones and somewhat

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Speaker 1: of good third down management, I think we'd be okay.

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Speaker 1: But another thing too, Sherma, he has to take the ball.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when when we win, kick off like you

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Speaker 1: sometimes have to you know, set the set the momentum

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Speaker 1: and not all the time the Deacons have to set it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the call, all right, thanks, So much for weighing in.

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Speaker 1: You remember, a lot of the philosophy behind deferring is

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Speaker 1: because teams want to put themselves in positions Jeff that

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Speaker 1: if they have a late possession in the first half

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Speaker 1: day score you sort of double dipping because then you

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Speaker 1: could come back and start the third quarter and listen,

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Speaker 1: whether your offense goes out there and scores on the

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Speaker 1: first drive, your defense then still needs to respond to

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Speaker 1: make a stop. You know, it's not as if the

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Speaker 1: game ends right there. I know we've been hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot from fans who, you know, get frustrated when the

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Speaker 1: Giants defer. But remember, your offense could go out and

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Speaker 1: have a very strong start, but then your defense needs

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Speaker 1: to meet you at least halfway. And that has it

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Speaker 1: necessarily been always the case with respect to this team,

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Speaker 1: game in and game out. Here's something else that I

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Speaker 1: want to bring up before we get back to the lines,

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Speaker 1: and I'm glad the caller brought up the offensive line

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Speaker 1: something too, because Daniel Jones, as I mentioned, saw some pressure.

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Speaker 1: He was sacked four times. That's the second most times

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Speaker 1: he's been sacked this season. Tampa Bay had five. New

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Speaker 1: England's offensive line has lost who starters since the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season. David Andrews, their center, unfortunately dealing with

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Speaker 1: some health issues so he's out for the year. And

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Speaker 1: Isaiah win their left tackle, who was out for last year.

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Speaker 1: They lost him again after Week one, so you know,

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Speaker 1: they've had to make some changes. But the thing with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots is even when it looks like maybe that's

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Speaker 1: a situation to take advantage of, Jeff Brady gets rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball so quickly they could put together you know,

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Speaker 1: three Joe schmos that they pick off on the street

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Speaker 1: and Brady be like, don't worry, I got this. I'll

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Speaker 1: just get rid of the football quicker and they run

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Speaker 1: play actions so good they're they're so good at they

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Speaker 1: just freeze those guys and it buys them time. The

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Speaker 1: offensive line, I'm gonna tell you something, that was a

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Speaker 1: very very physical football game against the Vikings because that's

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Speaker 1: front four. The front seven they play is they are

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Speaker 1: just there. They're I mean, they are tough nose football team, right,

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Speaker 1: So that has a carryover effect to a Thursday game

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Speaker 1: for guys like the offensive line. You know, they were

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Speaker 1: out there for I don't know how many plays it was,

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Speaker 1: it's sixty something I'm usually sixty to seventy plays offense

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Speaker 1: simply and those guys getting you know, hit constantly, constantly,

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Speaker 1: and it was a very physical game. And then coming

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Speaker 1: as as a player coming off Sunday and then going

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Speaker 1: and playing on Thursday. Those guys are those guys are

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Speaker 1: hurting a little bit. They're hurting a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: so are the Patriots. I'm just say I'm not just

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Speaker 1: saying this them, but that was you come from a

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Speaker 1: game that's very physical, like the Minnesota game, that has

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Speaker 1: a little lingering effect on those five guys. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think that's a great point. That's more of a reason

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Speaker 1: why when it came to the Giants injury report, it's

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Speaker 1: not just the offensive lineman, also the offensive guys they

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Speaker 1: got banged up on Sunday. To think about what position

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Speaker 1: they put them in if they have to take more

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Speaker 1: hits on Thursday versus resting them for a good nearly

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Speaker 1: two weeks before their next game. Let's head back to

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Speaker 1: the lines. Nathan is in New York. Nathan, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Lot. What do you have for us? Hi?

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Speaker 1: How you guys doing anything the first time? Long time?

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Speaker 1: I'm nervous, but here we go. I'm gonna that's okay,

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna bite Dori, and I'll be like, um,

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Speaker 1: not Russ, but like Paul and uh. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that enough to be said about the Patriots opponents. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know it's typical of a Patriots season for us

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Speaker 1: to diminish their opponents and their wins, but the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: they've faced are not other than one, are not Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones in my opinion. Um, I mean, the Redskins made

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Speaker 1: our defense look like the two thousand seven Giants defense

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Speaker 1: with four picks and only allowing three points. I think

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00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is smarter than those quarterbacks, and I think

639
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: he has the attention of the Patriots coaching staff. As

640
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: long as Sermer doesn't try to like out smart Belichick

641
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: or himself, we could put up a decent fight. And

642
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: a big key to that, I think is Elijah Penny.

643
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: And then the latter part of the Vikings game, it

644
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: really seemed like he was busting him off five stick

645
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: shard at the clip and book kind of like a

646
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: vicious runner. I think when Barkley does come back, him

647
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: and Penny could be a good duo. And and I

648
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: think the weather could play a big part in that

649
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: as well. I think the more that he gets to

650
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: throw the ball around plays in our favor and um, yeah,

651
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: but the question is is he going to be forced

652
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: to throw the ball That's the question though. Well, like

653
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I said, his opponents, I mean, we look our defense

654
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: look better than their's in my opinion against the Redskin.

655
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is there's a shot if you

656
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: want to look at it positive. Well, of course, well listen,

657
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: we're not Jeff and I are not here to tell

658
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: you that this is, you know, impossible. But clearly New

659
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: England has been by far the more consistent team than

660
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: the Giants, and that's why they got to play the game.

661
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: If we knew how all these games are gonna play out,

662
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: there's no point that the Giants even traveling to New

663
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: England on Thursday. They might as well have a video

664
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: game simulated. So yeah, there's always a chance, but I

665
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: think you have to look at it also realistically that

666
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: the Giants are going out there undermanned. Okay, they're not

667
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: fully healthy. New England is very good at its home field. Also,

668
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: New England and Belichick have an unbelievable track record keep

669
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: this in mind against rookie quarterbacks, Okay, that can't be overlooked,

670
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: and that has nothing to do with Nathan who the

671
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: Patriots have played this season. Belichick and the Patriots or

672
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: eighteen and five against teams with rookie quarterback since Belichick

673
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: took over as the starting quarterback in two thousand and

674
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: then includes eleven and oh at home, meaning a rookie

675
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: quarterback with his team never went to Gillette Stadium and

676
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots since Belichick took over as the head coach.

677
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: So once again, we're just giving you the information that,

678
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion, when you assess the situation clearly goes

679
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: heavily in favor of the Patriots, right, And I don't

680
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: mean that as you no, and I didn't, we didn't

681
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: take it that way. I'm just I'm just looking for

682
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: clarification here in the conversation. That's all, yeah, right, a

683
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: couple more points. But do you guys put anything into

684
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: the whole Belichick would show mercy towards the Giants, and

685
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: given his ties, well, mercy in one way though what score?

686
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Well you know, I mean, Jeff, you played the game,

687
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: I do I personally, you don't think he would run

688
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: up the store meeting. I don't think he would. But

689
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: here's here's the way that I look at it. But

690
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you can't control that. Like I mean, if you

691
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: say we're gonna run the football and Sony Michelle goes

692
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: and you can drive a truck through the line of

693
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: scrimmage're not gonna tell him to go down, don't go score? Well,

694
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Or if the team that you're playing has a bunch

695
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: of mis tackles, yeah, what are you gonna tell the

696
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: running back, Hey, just take a knee? You guess it

697
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: would be if they're up twenty four to nothing in

698
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: the first quarter and they come out throwing the football

699
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: all over the place in the second quarter, that would

700
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: tell me that they don't really care what they're gonna

701
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: do it. They would probably go to a more balance

702
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: football game and try to run the football. But I

703
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: will tell you the first half to me, you play

704
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: and try to score as many points as you can.

705
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Then the second half I might take my foot off

706
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: the throttle a little bit, But the first half, I'm

707
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going as far as I can. Right right,

708
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: I agree, and hopefully we'll see a little bit of

709
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Jared sid him. But the last thing is Alonzo Russell

710
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: and he really was the highlight for me of the

711
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: preseason and uh, I was really up to that when

712
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: they let him go. I think it might be too

713
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: late now if you guys could let me know to

714
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: bring him back in to bring a spark to the

715
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: locker room and um on my way out, I'll think

716
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: it comments off there, Sterling Shepherd has really uh concerning

717
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: may have make it really sad to think about actually,

718
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: and like watching that post game locker room interview where

719
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: it was losing this train of thought and stuff is

720
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: really sad. So go Giants, and I just hope we

721
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: have a good showing and that the narrative and the

722
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: media during the week isn't that we've made a bad

723
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: source of Dana Jones, because yeah, I don't. I don't

724
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the narrative. Nathan, I would not

725
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: worry about that. It's too early for that. Yeah, I

726
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about just starting. He's making his fourth career.

727
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Starry narrative is not going to automatically changing. If it does,

728
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: it's somebody that has any gener I don't think that

729
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: bringing Alonzo Russell is going to give a spark to

730
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, I mean it's all about perspective. I

731
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: thought we had moved on from that story, but apparently

732
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: to continue to bring it back well, because you also

733
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: have to understand the player that is the fifth of

734
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: the six wide receiver on the team is probably only

735
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: going to get special team opportunities if anything, barring injuries.

736
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Of course, barring injury. That's exactly right. But you know,

737
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: I know I didn't mean to cut you off, Jeff.

738
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: It's golden tape just came back. Okay, Darius Slate in

739
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: his look good. You hope Sterling Shepherd is not going

740
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: to miss a bulk of time. But concussions are sensitive

741
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: issues and they're gonna have to wait and see how

742
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: the Independent Concussion Protocol plays out. But they've got other options.

743
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Cody Lattimer has been with the team. It's not as

744
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: if they're lacking wide receivers. And I don't think Alonzo

745
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: Russell alone is gonna come in and make a huge

746
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: indentation into the offense. So you know, guys are banged

747
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: up right now. They're gonna get Barkley back Ingram's gonna

748
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: get back. They're gonna eventually have their core back. It's

749
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: just unfortunately it came during a time where Jeff, they

750
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: had so many games in a short period of turn

751
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: and that's where it's painful because you know, listen that

752
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: the Giants right now, if they were to go to

753
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: the schedules and they said, hey, give us the Thursday game,

754
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: you know, five weeks later, maybe they're not in this position. Unfortunately,

755
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: this is when the Thursday game came, and it happens

756
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: to come against the defending Super Bowl champs. You just

757
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: don't have control over these circumstances. The Giants are going

758
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: up to Foxborough. They have eleven guy an offense and

759
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: eleven guys on defense. Okay, they're gonna play a football game,

760
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: so well, it's not and it's gonna be a very

761
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: difficult place to win, Okay. Um, and they're going in

762
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: there as underdogs as we know, and they're just gonna

763
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: have to put a game plan together that's gonna have

764
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: to be able. Like we just said, it's very simple

765
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: to me that how this game if you're gonna have

766
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: any chance to win this game. We talked about this, Okay,

767
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: first and second down of paramount, Okay, because they don't

768
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: give up third down conversions. Okay, So you're gonna have

769
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: to get production on those first two downs, all right,

770
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: and move the sticks offensively. That's what you have to do.

771
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: And when you get in the red zone, you better

772
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: score some points because you may not get back in there,

773
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: right because I mean, if they only give up twelve

774
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: percent down, you're not getting down the field very often, right.

775
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: And then defensively, you just got to stop the run.

776
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: Just gonna have to play physical football and stop the run,

777
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: and then and then bratty and just defend. It's not

778
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: gonna be easy, but they have eleven on offense, eleven

779
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: on defense, leven on special teams. You go up there

780
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: and compete and come out of there and do the

781
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: best you can. To me, I'm not a coach, I'm

782
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: not a player, But to me, I gotta think that

783
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: you're going up there, you know you're up in your

784
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: backs against the wall. I want to come out of

785
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: this game healthy so that I had the guys that

786
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I left home to come back and against Arizona ten

787
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: days later and we'll get a conference win here and

788
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: get back and just get back going, because you can

789
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: win that cardinal game at home. I look at this

790
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: game as a great opportunity for the Giants because you've

791
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: got a lot of young guys and they've got nothing

792
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: to lose in this game. Chef, you don't think about this.

793
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna have a running. Nobody thinks the Giants are

794
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: winning this game. If anything, the Patriots have all the

795
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: pressure on them because they're five and oh they've been

796
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: so good at home, they're in better health. So if

797
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: New England is turning the ball over and it's too

798
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: close for comfort, if anything, you know, the Giants are

799
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: saying to themselves, Hey, I mean, now we're working with

800
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: a situation that nobody thought we were going to be

801
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: in this position. So I mean, I think if you're

802
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: the Giants, you're going to this game, you're loose. If

803
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: you could keep it close, you can make things interesting. Hey,

804
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: that's icing on the cake, because nobody ever gave you

805
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: an ounce of credit that you were going to be

806
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: in that position. And the big one is number eight.

807
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: You're getting him a lot of experience right now. Okay,

808
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: and in back to back games, by the way, because

809
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was a rough go against the Vikings.

810
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: Now he's got even a tougher defense in difficult territory

811
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: on the road and a quick and a quick turnaround

812
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: for a starting quarterback to prepare and go through then

813
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: go through the short week routine and then get out

814
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: there against and and listen, if Daniel Jones is gonna

815
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: be here as long as we all want him to

816
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: be in, he's gonna be in games like this weather wise. Okay,

817
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: So let's see how he does. You know, this isn't

818
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: Duke where it's you know, nice and warm down there

819
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: rains every once in a while. You know, this is cold.

820
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: This is New England weather, this is New New York weather.

821
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna playing games like this. Let's see how he

822
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: can do it. So, yeah, you know, it's a great

823
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: point you make, Lance because it is. They have nothing

824
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: to lose here, right, nobody's got him winning this game.

825
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: No one can they win it. Sure they can win it,

826
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: but that's because New England has to implode basically to

827
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: win this game, they're gonna have to turn the ball over.

828
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: Then they could They could have one good And he's not.

829
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: He's not. Brady's not perfect. Right, He's never not thrown

830
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: an interception in his life. He's never not fumbled before.

831
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: I mean things can happen here. Um, you have to

832
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: capitalize that and maybe the Giants become the opportunistic team

833
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: and take away and get some points off things and

834
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: get it to the to the end. If you're in

835
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: this one at the end and you'll lose it, I mean,

836
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: we can call it a moral victory, right and we

837
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: can call experience. We can call all that stuff. We

838
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: want to do it, we can do it. You and

839
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: I can do that all right. But from a team's perspective,

840
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: that you get a lot of experience out of this,

841
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing because that's what this team needs.

842
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: This team needs to build experience in the backup position

843
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: so that they have depth. That's what they need going forward.

844
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: It's a young team, you gotta This team is so young.

845
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: What's the number now, man? So it's still up in

846
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: the twenties, right out of the fifty three for for

847
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: the first or second of year players. I mean, it's young. Young.

848
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: The one team that was in the best position to

849
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots in this season was the Buffalo Bills.

850
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: They lost sixteen to ten. And if you're Buffalo, you

851
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: had New England exactly where you wanted. You held them

852
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: to sixteen points. Okay, So if you look at what

853
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: did Buffalo do well to make that game interesting? Okay, well,

854
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: they took away the Patriots run game. New England rushes

855
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: seventy four yards. So that's why we're talking about you

856
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: want to make Brady throw the ball even though he

857
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: gets rid of it quick. The reason being is, Jeff,

858
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: it's the old school of mathematics. The more times the

859
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: ball is in the air, whether the quarterback ends or not,

860
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: something can happen at deflection. You hit the ball at

861
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. So that's what you need to do.

862
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: You have to be able to stop the run. The

863
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: other thing that the Bills obviously were very effective in doing,

864
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: and clearly you know, this Bill's defense has played far

865
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: more consistently than the Giants. So it maybe a little

866
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: apples and oranges comparison, but you've got to go with

867
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: the blueprint of a team that was effective and you

868
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: need to look at it and say, okay, well, how

869
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: can we come close to duplicating that. They also prevented

870
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: New England in the red zone. New England was one

871
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: for three in the red zone, so that was also

872
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: a big reason why the game was kept close, and

873
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: they held New England to just eleven first downs and

874
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: five of eighteen on third down. So once again, Buffalo

875
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: made it a game not because of their offense, they

876
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: only put up ten points. They made it a game

877
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: because of their defense and their ability to also perhaps

878
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: change field position because of the defense not allowing New

879
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: England to put together those lengthy drives. So rush on

880
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: the Giants d entering this game. There's no question, and

881
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, talk about health on that side of the

882
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: football too, you know. So Tay Davis and over three

883
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: are they They were not on the injury report, so

884
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: and Ogiltree had been practicing as well as Tay Davis,

885
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: So it looks like they could get those two guys

886
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: back at a much needed position. Al right, So instantly

887
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: you now have pretty much your starting defense intact again, right,

888
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you got all your defensive linemen. Um, I

889
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: don't know Lorenzo Carter. Lorenzo Carter is another guy that

890
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: was not on the injury report, so you know, shouldn't

891
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: getting him back as well. He was kind of a

892
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: like a head scratcher on Sunday when we were when

893
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: he went out, right, I mean we thought he was

894
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna play. So you get your defense pretty healthy offensively, No,

895
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: so defense, let's go your time, your turn to step up.

896
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: All right, now, give up four ninety yards in total offense. Again,

897
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: don't do that. Just go out there and play. And

898
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: like you said, let's just go see what you could do.

899
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: And let me just clarify as I look at it,

900
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter is on the injury report. He's questionable for

901
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: this games. So I don't want to paint optimistic view,

902
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: but questionable could very well mean he's gonna play. Nobody's doubtful.

903
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Then we mentioned the four guys that are out, and

904
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: in case you're just joining us, Sae Kwon Barkley, Wayne Goldman,

905
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, Heavn Ingram. Those are the four out and

906
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter is the only other player on the injury report.

907
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: So alec Ogiltree, Tay Davis ready to go. They're going

908
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: to get some much needed help at the linebacker position,

909
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: which is a positive considering what they had to deal

910
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: with against the Vikings and the Vikings rushing attack. So,

911
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: now does New England have Dalvin Cook? No, but New

912
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: England's got Sony Michelle Brandon Bolden Rex Burkhead and a

913
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: laundry list of other guys, including James White. And they

914
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: utilize their running backs as receivers. So you can't just

915
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: worry about stopping the run. You've got to make sure

916
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: that those guys don't get out in the flats, get

917
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: a short three yard pass and then pick up ten

918
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: to fifteen yards after that. And guess what. That's what

919
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: you saw last week in the Minnesota game is those

920
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: running backs catching passes. I mean, and just and a

921
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: lot of misdirection stuff, you know. So and and getting

922
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Ogra Tree back and Tay Davis back that will help

923
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: that defense so that the defense is fairly healthy. So

924
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: we've got a chance you do. And and if the

925
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: New England Patriots offensive line is still beat up, you

926
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: know that interior guys they gotta go play. They need

927
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback and stop the run. Let's

928
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: head back to the phone lines two zero, one, five,

929
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: one three. He's Jeff Feagles, Am Lance Meadow here on

930
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. John is in Bama. John, Welcome

931
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: to the program. What you got for us? Hey, guys,

932
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: definite today? John? How do they see you? Yeah? Good?

933
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: And listen, I want you to teach me something both

934
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: of you. Okay, I'm just gonna go through a little

935
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: bit because what you're saying is right. I mean, we

936
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: hope that we're wealthy, and you know, we're healthy. Wealthy

937
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: us are healthy. Well, everybody hopes they're wealthy too. You're

938
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: not technically wrong about that. But anyway, Yeah, well, we

939
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: need we need some help, you know, with regards to

940
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: linebackers and and some help on defense. And I'm maybe

941
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the offense. Maybe we could use the

942
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: center and stuff like that. But how does it work

943
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: with the cap space on some of this stuff? Because

944
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: it's saying that on you know, the sport rack Eagles

945
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: are number four and the Calboys are six with the

946
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: cap space forteen and we're like twenty five and then

947
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: going to we're sitting there where we go up to

948
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: twelve and the Cowboys are at like four. So you know,

949
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: if we're gonna start bringing in some veteran players, are

950
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: trying to sign some of the guys that we really

951
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: like to keep, how does the whole worked out with

952
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: the cap space? Well, just go offline and listen to you.

953
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: You gotta appreciate the phone call. John Well when you're

954
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: looking at the difference between nineteen and twenty, keep in

955
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: mind there's gonna be players that are gonna come off

956
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: the books from the numbers that are looking at two

957
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, and that's why maybe a team is gonna

958
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: move up in two thousand twenty. And keep in mind

959
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: all of this stuff is projections. Things are gonna drastically

960
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: change as players are signed, as maybe new contract extensions

961
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: are worked out during the course of the season. The

962
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: salary cap is always a fluid situation. You have roster bonuses,

963
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: you have things in there, and you've got guys that

964
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: deferred money that comes in there. Um. You know, when

965
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: you're looking at the salary cap, you're looking at the

966
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: cap amount the cap hit, and then there's dead money

967
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: in there, and dead money is dead money is a

968
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: part where you know, when Odell Beckham left there, he

969
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: left they left a lot of dead money here, right.

970
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: So you've got players teams that handle a lot of them,

971
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: some some of them don't have a lot of it.

972
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: So but putting those together it becomes one big number.

973
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: But like Lancet, next year, you look at guys that

974
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: are coming out of this year that don't have contracts

975
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: anymore that aren't gonna be on the books. Um, you know,

976
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: come around the new When is that march versus the

977
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: new Usually when it gets started, you know, then you

978
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: start getting into guys start getting their roster bonuses. Those

979
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: aren't included now because you don't know if they're on

980
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: the roster yet, and you don't know if they're going

981
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: to sign the opponents or whatever it may be. Sometimes

982
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: a trade happens. For example, that Eli Manning right now,

983
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: he's going to be a free agent. So if you

984
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: start to look at two thousand twenty, Eli Manning's contract

985
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: will have come off the books, and that's going to

986
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: give the giants more flexibility. I think the thing you

987
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: need to look at is currently the current cap space,

988
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: and that's because that's up to date. That's everybody that's

989
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: been paid out their roster bonuses and you know that's

990
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: so that's the one you have to look at. Um,

991
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: it'll give you an idea of you know, you talk

992
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: about guys, Oh this guy just came on the market,

993
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: let's go get them. You know, well, they might only

994
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: have two million dollars in the cap. Now. I will

995
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: tell you that it's very easy to get cap money. Okay,

996
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: you just go and restructure guys on stret You see

997
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: it all the time. You know they restructured this guy,

998
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: they restructure. Did they accelerate somebody's uh salary for the

999
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: rest of the year into assigning bonus? So things can happen.

1000
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: If you need money, you can always go get it,

1001
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: um you know, depending on how much. But if you

1002
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: need some money, you can always find it. Yeah, and

1003
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: that seems to be the philosophy of most teams. That's

1004
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: why I wouldn't get too caught up in salary cap

1005
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: space because if you really want a player, there's ways

1006
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: to your point, Jeff, to make some tweets. But I

1007
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: think in the offseason, if you want to go get

1008
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: a multi multiple multi ud players, like a few years

1009
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: ago the Giants went on got two d million dollars

1010
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: worth the guys. Of course, you know, if you didn't

1011
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: have that two h million, you're not don't get difficult

1012
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: to pull off. But I'm saying that if you're targeting

1013
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: maybe one guy in particular, there's ways to make some

1014
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: changes yet, but you're not looking at snacks Olivier Vernon

1015
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: and generous Jenkins type offseason unless you have some big

1016
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: time cap space like the Jeff exactly. You know, the

1017
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: Jets had a lot of much we don't got some season.

1018
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean they've got Levian Bell and um C J. Mosley,

1019
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: they've brought in yeah him. Yeah, you know, they need

1020
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys back, including the quarterback, which it

1021
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: looks like he is going to return St. Donald because

1022
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys this week. Let's head back to the lines.

1023
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Rick is in Tampa. Rick, Welcome to Big Blue Kick

1024
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Off Live. What do you got for us? Hey, guys,

1025
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: talk to you to again? How are you real? First

1026
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: of all, we're regarding deferring. Let's just defer this whole game.

1027
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: How that we can do that, because come on, this

1028
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: game is no way and you can see positive all

1029
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: you want, there's no way we're gonna win this game.

1030
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: And the question I have for you, and I spoke

1031
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: to Russ and and excuse me Paul yesterday and about

1032
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: it seems like you're getting very emotional over Russ and Paul.

1033
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know many people that get that

1034
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: emotional over the two of them. But yeah, playing and

1035
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: talking about you know what this game's I'm looking past

1036
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: this game I'm looking at the Arizona Detroit and going

1037
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 1: four and four. But the thing is, do you think

1038
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: is at first the question is regarding Evan Ingram and

1039
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I hope he just doesn't it doesn't stay just this

1040
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: as a linger anymore. But do you think him not

1041
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: playing is a product of that? You know what, Let's

1042
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: just not take a chance because of who we're playing

1043
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: and the short week versus if this was if we

1044
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: were close, if this you know, a record, I mean,

1045
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, if we had a solid chance,

1046
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: that they may try to play him. So that's the

1047
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: first question because right now you talk about weapons, we

1048
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: have no weapons with nobody playing this week, and uh,

1049
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hoping that in the next ten days we

1050
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: will get him back. I'm thinking of Evan Ingram because

1051
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that road of this

1052
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: being injured again. So hopefully he will play and um

1053
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: and Nate Solder on the offensive line will have a

1054
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: better game because he's not looked good and also are

1055
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: tackling have to improve. Maybe they could practice it as

1056
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: we get we get our butts kicked this Thursday. Because

1057
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: I'm really don't have any I don't have any hope

1058
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: in this game, but I am looking forward to the

1059
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: next two games. Do you think the coaching staff is

1060
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: sure thinking about that even though they won't admit it. Well, um, no,

1061
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: they're not looking They're not looking down the line. They're

1062
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: still concentrated on this game. I can tell you that. Okay, Um,

1063
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the first question, I just lost my theory and thought

1064
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: what was the first question because I had an answer

1065
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: to Well, it was about looking ahead to that result

1066
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: of Detroit games. Yeah, No, it's about the injuries. Okay.

1067
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: Injuries and injuries are all about the individual. There's players

1068
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: and Lance mentioned to it before. The medical staff is

1069
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: here to help a lot of times is to is

1070
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: to help the player. Right, There's a lot of guys

1071
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: that want to get out there, so they have to

1072
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: They have to basically just help them, um, stay off

1073
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: the field because they want to get back on it

1074
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: so quickly. If the player is ready to play and

1075
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: their doctors think that he can't play, he will play.

1076
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a short week, a long

1077
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: week or two weeks or whatever. They're gonna play. They absolutely, okay, um,

1078
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: but they have to be cautious because sometimes the player

1079
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: wants to get back earlier than they want, and they

1080
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: will do everything they can to convince the doctors. They

1081
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: really will, and so um, and that's a case like

1082
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: I could tell you right now that Kwan is probably

1083
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: in that in that circumstance. He wants to play, and

1084
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure he thinks he can play, but the doctors

1085
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: are like, you know what, we're not ready. You're not

1086
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: ready yet physically, and they're also going to weigh the

1087
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: risks about re injuring it too. So I mean that's

1088
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: a part of the conversation, and that has nothing to

1089
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: do with hey, let's wait because we've got our next

1090
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: game in ten days. I think it's a matter of

1091
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: if we put the guy out there, what's the chances

1092
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: that if he has a knee injury, it's not fully

1093
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: healed and he hits it in the wrong spot again,

1094
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: then it goes from maybe being a one to two

1095
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: week injury to a four to five week injury. So

1096
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's a big part of the medical conversation

1097
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: to Rick and and the other thing that I wanted

1098
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: to throw out, and I'm not trying to be a

1099
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: Debbie downer. I would not make it seem as if

1100
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: Arizona detroitter layups is all I'm saying. The Lions. Yeah,

1101
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, there'd have to be a

1102
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: massive shift in the earth cycles for us to win

1103
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: this game, I mean against New England. And but the

1104
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: thing is, do you think ten days now I've gone

1105
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: looking past here, do you think that Barkley I know,

1106
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: will be back. I I really I know he'll be playing. Well,

1107
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: you think Kevin Ingram will be playing. It's really hard

1108
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: to tell him what. We'll let you go at this point, Rick,

1109
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: because you know, based on the reports, and you know,

1110
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to speculate with injuries, because you know,

1111
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: people started to speculate with say Kwan Barkley, and I

1112
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: think he got back on the side, you know, not

1113
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: that he's been a full participated practice a little bit

1114
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: sooner than most people anticipated. Some of the reports are

1115
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: that it's an mc L injury for Evan Ingram and

1116
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: it's a sprained mc L. Now you know that from

1117
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: just how other players are dealt with that. Jeff, I

1118
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever had to do something like that,

1119
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: you know that tends to be a multi week injury.

1120
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: But you know, once again, Evan Ingram is not necessarily

1121
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: on the same path as any other player who has

1122
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: suffered the same exact injury. So you know, for us

1123
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: to sit here, I think would be irresponsible and tell

1124
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: you he's definitely gonna return for this date. There's absolutely

1125
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: no chance he returns. I think the bottom line is

1126
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: the fact that he's not playing Thursday hopefully gives him

1127
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get ahead of the curve with a

1128
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: rehab process and puts him in a position that maybe

1129
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: he can get out there for Arizona. But I think

1130
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: we'll know a lot more. They're gonna practice on Monday

1131
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: next week because they're not playing this weekend, So you know,

1132
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: let's see what the injury report looks like on Monday,

1133
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: Let's see how much he takes part in. And remember,

1134
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram had been a limited participant over the last

1135
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: few days. So you know that I thought was perhaps

1136
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: somewhat of an encouraging sign that maybe it's not as

1137
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: bad as perhaps what other players have dealt with when

1138
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: it has been a sprain m c L and there's

1139
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: also certain grades injuries. Yeah, of course, well and once again,

1140
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: if you're not and you didn't see it. You just speculated.

1141
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no point. Do you say an m

1142
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: c L or spraying knee, Well, that could mean a

1143
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: lot of different things. It could be damaged to the

1144
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: m c L and a here, or it could be

1145
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: no in just a slight sprain and or there could

1146
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: be a terror. There's a ton tons of different stuff

1147
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: that could happen. But again, everybody is different. I mean,

1148
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: he could he could be ready to play, but the

1149
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: doctors say, you know what you know, we don't. I know,

1150
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: you think you can run around and play, but we've

1151
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: seen some you know, on your cutting and things. It's

1152
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: just let's just wait a little bit. Let's head back

1153
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Marcus is in Arizona. Marcus, Welcome

1154
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: to the the program, gaffer us. Hey, how's it going doing well? Marcus?

1155
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: What's happening? Okay, First off, I'm gonna make a couple

1156
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: of comments and then I just have a couple of

1157
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: quick questions. But no, was Saint Steve Tish or John

1158
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Mara for hiring gentleman to do the job that everyone

1159
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: was gonna beat him up about. And everybody's been killing gentleman,

1160
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: but he's done me personally. What I've wanted since he

1161
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: got there. He got Nate Solder. Even though it did

1162
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: it's not really working out that great. That's who I wanted.

1163
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want Herbert or any of those other quarterbacks.

1164
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: I wanted Say Kung last year. If Baker wasn't available,

1165
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: we got him. And the only college quarterback I wanted

1166
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: to share was Daniel Jones, and I wanted him. So

1167
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: thanks for Gentleman and the Tish and Mara for you know,

1168
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: doing the job and taking the abuse from all the fans.

1169
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: Um to thank you guys for you guys get yelled

1170
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: at way too much by fans and they don't realize

1171
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: that it's not your guys fault. They don't realize how

1172
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: we talked about them on unless you're in the that building, right.

1173
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: My questions are, though, okay, I do like Pat Shermer,

1174
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure on Betcher. Okay, but what do

1175
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: you guys think the possibility are of like Sean Payton,

1176
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin or Mike McCarthy would be the only like

1177
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: proven coaches that would be an acceptable change from those two.

1178
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: But if not, I don't think that they should be

1179
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: fired next year based on you know, the performance of

1180
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: these kids unless it's all year of the same thing

1181
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 1: from the defense, like the mistackling and the being out

1182
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: of position. But it's too early on to till Yeah,

1183
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a very good answer. Question is, what

1184
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: do you guys think that, uh, the big free agency

1185
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: next year is gonna be like, because it's kind of

1186
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: hard to say. I don't think Jenkins will be there,

1187
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: but I know that we got some money coming up

1188
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: around like the two million and a bunch of young contracts.

1189
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: So just what do you guys think we're gonna do

1190
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: in the off season assuming everybody that is not on

1191
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: I R is healthy at the end of the year.

1192
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: Al Right, Marcus, appreciate the phone call, Thanks so much

1193
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: for weighing in. I think Dave Gentleman's plan Jeff, as

1194
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: he's laid out thus far, has been to really rebuild

1195
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: this team through the draft, and I think that's still

1196
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: going to remain a priority. And during next offseason, well,

1197
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: they got a lot of draft picks, remember there. They

1198
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: still piled up a bunch for next year, because you

1199
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: want to get to a point where your roster is

1200
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: staggered on rookie deals so that everybody doesn't get up

1201
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: for a new deal simultaneously, Jeff, so that you can

1202
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: manage re upping the guys that have shown you something

1203
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: and then perhaps complimenting that with free agency. Even if

1204
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: you look at what Dave Getleman did in Carolina, he

1205
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: never had an off season where it was let me

1206
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: throw money at the wall and see if it's sticks.

1207
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: He always went about his business the way of the

1208
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: draft and then bringing in some complimentary veteran free agents

1209
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: or obviously investing in the guys that were already on

1210
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: the roster. And that's not to say that he won't

1211
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: go in a different direction here with the Giants, but

1212
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: I would not guarantee that it's gonna be like what

1213
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Reese did a few seasons ago, Jeff, where it

1214
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: was let's bring in three guys, spend a lot of

1215
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: money on the defense. I just, once again, I think

1216
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: that that put them in a predicament that that Gettleman

1217
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: had to clean up. Remember, over these last two seasons.

1218
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to now immediately go

1219
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: back into that scenario or there's no way he wants

1220
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: to go back with that, because you know what, it

1221
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: didn't work, and the other thing is that I think

1222
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: that Dave Geentleman is a pretty good draft guy. I

1223
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: think he understands talent and getting it through the draft. Um,

1224
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: you look at some of his draft picks the last

1225
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: two years. We can go down the line see how

1226
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: they're playing. I mean, Zimmon as the guy that right

1227
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: off the top of the bat, off my mind, sat

1228
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: you know that that was a kid that was drafted.

1229
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: We are the old dominion, I mean old dominion. Seriously,

1230
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: Well the kid. The kid played like almost I don't

1231
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: know what percentage the snaps last week. He was in

1232
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: there a lot. Now. I know that Lorenzo Carter was hurt,

1233
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: but that goes to show you the confidence in him. Okay,

1234
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: and then you look at some of these other rookies.

1235
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean they go out and find undrafted guys too.

1236
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton is a guy that I mentioned earlier. He's

1237
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: a late round draft pick that they saw him when

1238
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: they were scouting, um the quarterback from Georgia. So I

1239
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: think I think that's what it was, wasn't He was

1240
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: also at the Senior Poll too. I mean, I know

1241
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: they took a good look at him there. It's possible

1242
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: you're saying that his team. So I had heard that

1243
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton what they saw him at the senior dar Okay,

1244
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: the arm what was the guy? Isn't the quarterback for

1245
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: the New England page Jared st That's it. When they

1246
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: were stounding again, they saw Darius Slayton and that's how

1247
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: they d I understand what you're going on. So I

1248
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: guess my point is I want I'm trying to make

1249
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: is Yes, you built through the draft. You built through

1250
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: the draft, and you acquire as many draft picks as

1251
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: you can. And that's what Dave Gentleman has done. I

1252
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: don't know how many. They have a lot next year again, okay,

1253
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: and of course you'll trade some of those away to

1254
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: make some deals in this and that. But um, bottom

1255
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: line is you do it through the draft. That's how

1256
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: you win in this league. I've been on, I've been in.

1257
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: I was a lot of teams and we tried. There's

1258
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: teams try to build through free agency. It never works.

1259
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: It never works, It really doesn't. The guys get their

1260
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: money and they shut it down. It's like some of

1261
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: the guys do it, but some of them are like,

1262
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, well I got my money and yeah, it's

1263
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: just the superstar teams are appealing in the fantasy football

1264
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: world you live in, Jeff, but very rarely does it

1265
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: actually translate. Let me tell you why building through the

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Speaker 1: draft works in two in two three ways. Number one, um,

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Speaker 1: it's because they're young, right, and you're they're good football players.

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Speaker 1: They're durable, they they were they recover quick. They're young players.

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Speaker 1: They're young guys. The second thing is they're hungry, hungry guys. Okay,

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Speaker 1: fifth rounders, six rounders, fourth rounders. They want to get

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Speaker 1: a new contract, right, They want to be in the league.

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Speaker 1: They want to show you that they you screwed up

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Speaker 1: drafting me fifth or six. Okay. And then the third

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Speaker 1: thing about it is like, like I said, they want

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Speaker 1: the big contract. These guys are gonna go out and

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Speaker 1: fight and do what they can to get the in

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Speaker 1: state and be on the team. If you're a big

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Speaker 1: name free agent, the guy that's already done all that

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Speaker 1: and now he gets gonna go out and get a

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Speaker 1: bunch of money. He's got his money. Now he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to play worth the damn but he's got all

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Speaker 1: this guaranteed money. Now that the league is going to

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Speaker 1: guaranteed contract so built through the draft, young young, young

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Speaker 1: guys that can play because they just you know, they're

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Speaker 1: almost like they're almost like just to the point where

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Speaker 1: they don't know what they're doing. They're doing they're so good,

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Speaker 1: they just don't understand it. And they're hungry. They're hungry.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing I always want to add, hungry guy.

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Speaker 1: This has something to prove. Okay, Tom Brady, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: had he still has a chip on his shoulder for

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Speaker 1: some reason. It drives him every single day. It really does. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you from experience. I played in this

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Speaker 1: in this league for twenty two seasons, and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you it drove me every year to get better and

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Speaker 1: to make as much money as I could in this

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Speaker 1: league because you know what, I wasn't drafted when there

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Speaker 1: was eleven or twelve rounds and they missed out on me,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, listen, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: show you how you screwed up. And you know what's

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Speaker 1: funny is that as a player, you're labeled as long

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Speaker 1: as you come into this league, if you were drafted

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Speaker 1: or not drafted, if you're a first rounder, you bought

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Speaker 1: yourself some time over time. But when you're a young

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Speaker 1: guy and you're not drafted, they know you're always you

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Speaker 1: were always an undrafted free agent. You know. That's like

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Speaker 1: a like a scar on your label stays with you.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of hungry young players, absolutely, and that's

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Speaker 1: the direction that the Giants are gonna go in. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of that hunger, it will be on full display

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Speaker 1: Thursday as they go up against the defending Suita Bowl champs,

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Speaker 1: which makes the jan the Giants somewhat of a dangerous

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Speaker 1: team because they have absolutely nothing to lose. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap up the latest edition a Big Blue kick Off Live.

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Speaker 1: four six four for more details. So Thursday night, it's

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Speaker 1: the Giants versus the Patriots. You have an eight twenty kickoff.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have our Giants. Radio Network pregame show start

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Speaker 1: at six fifty p m. Eastern on w f A

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Speaker 1: N in the New York City metropolitan area. Jeff is

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Speaker 1: abandoning me tomorrow because that's what people do. But Amanti

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Speaker 1: Tumor will be filling in for Jeff, and he and

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Speaker 1: I will be at Legends, New York City, a bar

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Speaker 1: in Midtown Manhattan, six West thirty third Streets, So for

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Speaker 1: those of you in the New York City area, feel

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Speaker 1: free to stop by. We're gonna do the entire pregame

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Speaker 1: show starting at six fifty tomorrow night from the bar

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Speaker 1: and good food, good times as we get you set

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Speaker 1: for the Giants and the Patriots. Big Book kick Off

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Speaker 1: Live will be up and running again tomorrow at one

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Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern for Jeff Eagles. I'm Lance metto enjoy

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Speaker 1: the rest of your Wednesday, and always stay locked to

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Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Have a go one