WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: The Bloop 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.600 Hey guys, Steve here, you are listening to one of 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.600 our original twenty six episodes. If you listen to any 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.280 of our new episodes, you're gonna notice that we're sounding 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.639 a little different in these ones. Yeah, there's a reason 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.520 for that. There is they've been remastered. They have been 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:18.040 remastered because they had a really annoying hum. Yeah, I 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.480 mean a huge thanks to listener James for doing almost 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.880 all of the legwork on this thing. They'll also notice 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.880 if you had listened to what we're calling the last 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.639 twenty six episodes before and you're re listening now, the 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.160 music and sound effects are gone. Yes, we've we've gone 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.720 back to straight audio, so be warned. We sound a 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.000 little different today than we do in what you're about 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:49.559 to listen to. Yeah, bye bye, Thinking Sideways. I don't 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:57.400 think you never know stories of things we simply don't 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:02.920 know the answer to. Hi, welcome to Thinking Sideways the podcast. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.200 I'm Devin, I'm Steve, I'm Joe, and we're here to 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.560 talk about a mystery. Yeah, this one's a little out 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.160 of my norm. Although no, I guess that's not true, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.440 because the other thing that I like, other than like 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:20.640 middle aged men who die under weird circumstances, is weird 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.080 noises that we don't totally know what's going on with 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.640 you do I have a pattern? It's true, It's it's 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.319 still disturbing to me. Yeah, this one should be less 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.560 disturbing because it doesn't have to do with random deaths. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.880 Perfect you don't know, I mean, it could be the 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.920 sound of someone dying. I guess that's true. So we're 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.520 gonna talk about the blue Oh yeah, you talked to 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.880 us about this one. Yeah. And you know, every time 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.600 you kind of go anywhere and think about you know, 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.880 it's on all the lists, every single top ten mysteries 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:55.760 that nobody can explain on our favorite like black background 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.880 white text websites. Yes, that's it's one of the mysteries. 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.720 So I thought we'd just talk about it. Well, why not, 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.600 let's take it on all right. Um, there's this thing. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:10.800 It's called the SOCAS, which stands for the Sound Surveillance System. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.200 It's a chain of underwater listening posts located all around 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.079 the world. Um, there's one in Cou's Bay, Oregon, which 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.720 is like really close to us. Yeah, there's a there's 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.440 a bunch up and down the Pacific, you know, they're 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.560 all over the place, literally all over the place. And 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.240 originally they were set up during the Cold War to 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:32.600 listen for submarines and things like that. Since the Cold War, 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.000 instead of just you know, getting rid of them and 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.720 scrapping them, they decided that this would be a great 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.880 thing to use as a research tool to kind of 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.520 you know, we haven't explored a lot of undersea anything, 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.079 so being able to listen at least to the undersea 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.440 world seemed like a good idea. I know it is, actually, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.480 but yeah, you know, I saw that in one of 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.800 those articles, and yeah, the Navy still uses They didn't 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.560 they didn't turn it over to private use. They just 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.079 let a lot of access to the data. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.160 I think I think that's great. Um. One of the 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:09.280 arrays is called the Equatorial Pacific Ocean Autonomous Hydrophone Array. Yes, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:15.440 you're welcome. Can't even hardly say it once fast. So 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.040 this sound array is located in a remote point in 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.720 the Pacific Ocean that's just west of the southern tip 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.040 of South America. They talk about it being in proximity 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.079 to Chile a lot. Okay, yeah, okay, I got a 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.239 reference for that all right in the source has picked 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.960 up a sound that's referred to as one of the 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.120 loudest sounds ever to be recorded by a lot of sources. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.839 Most of those are not particularly reputable sources, but they're 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.760 pretty interesting sources. And we call it the bloop because 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.880 it sounds like a bloop. Did you guys want to 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.280 hear it? Okay? I have two versions of it. One 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.680 is the version which it's only ever officially been released in, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.280 which is sped up sixteen times. So well, listen to 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:04.920 that one. First does sound like a blue Well, it 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.320 sounds like a giant way I just sort of. And 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.960 then the second one, but we'll listen to is it's 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.200 just the little bit we're talking about, but it's been 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:21.360 slowed down from the released sixteen sped time sped up version. Wait, 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:22.840 so let me just let me make sure I get 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.479 this right in my head, because this is this is 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.120 a word problem. So it's released, it's sixteen times, it's 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.240 the original recorded speed, yes, and then somebody else has 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.320 gone ahead and taken it slowed it back down. So 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:38.400 what this is like? Uh, somebody releases a picture and 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:44.120 it's zoomed really really far in and somebody says, oh, well, 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.080 I want to zoom this picture out a little bit 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.919 so I can kind of see what it might have 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.800 actually been supposed to be about. But you've only got 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.920 so many pixels it's gonna it's gonna be grating. So 0:04:53.960 --> 0:05:14.919 the sound quality on this one is grating. So the 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.880 reason I wanted to give that disclaimer was because you know, 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.240 it's not supposed to be metallic. It's supposed to just 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.400 be more of significant of the duration of it. And um, 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.680 it's totally possible. And I don't know the answer to this. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.320 They probably changed the sound range that it's in because 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:34.120 it's really low frequency range, so I don't know, to 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.520 my own discredit, I don't know what the human ear 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.040 can hear. And actually that might have been the reason 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.279 for changing the sound range, because it didn't sound that 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.680 much lower in frequency in the in the slowed down 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.560 version of it, and what you would think that it 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.200 would be if you slowed it down that far, it 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.279 should be much much lower and pitched. So I don't 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.360 know what the situations, what kind of adjustments were done, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.599 but I do know, Um, the bloop rises quote rises 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.440 lap rapidly in frequency over about one minute and was 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.159 a sufficient amplitude to be heard on multiple sensors, which 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:13.360 ranged from over five thousand kilometers away. That's a little 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.440 bit of distance. That's a big, big distance. So for 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.560 kind of a frame of reference. One of the things 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.720 they talked about is that a blue whale or a 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.599 humpback whale is the loudest recorded aquatic mammal ever their 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:32.160 songs um and the lot of the biggest distance whale 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.720 sound has ever traveled is eight hundred kilometers, so this 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:44.640 is what like little five times more. Okay, that's that's 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:49.119 really loud. So it's really loud, but lower frequency, little 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.239 frequency sound ways traveled further in the ocean too. Sure, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:57.800 that's true. So the analysis initially concluded that it was 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.080 not a man made noise, so it wasn't bomb or 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.839 something some kind of machinery or something weird you know, 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.840 tip yeah, or anything like that, Nor was it consistent 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.640 with any kind of geological activity, like there wasn't an 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.440 underground earthquake that had happened or volcano erupting or anything 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:19.040 like that. Loud, right and travel far, but they said 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.120 that the sound wasn't consistent with that, and the record 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.360 of geological activity was also not consistent with that. At 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:31.280 that time. So there's this guy named Dr Fox when 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.040 he was in charge of analyzing this stuff, and he 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.360 said initially he said it might be an ice shift, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.520 and then later he updated his opinion to say it 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.800 was probably of animal origin. But again, we've talked about 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.120 how big a thing would need to be to create 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.480 a noise that loud. If a humpback whale, which are giant, 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.840 only creates you know, eight d kilometers unless unless it 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.200 was a somewhat small sound was closer to the to 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.360 the hydrophones. Well, so the thing about that was is 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.240 that it was recorded at that kind of similar frequency 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:16.360 just you know, thousands of kilometers apart just one Mike. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.600 It was a bunch of Mike's recording a super loud 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.600 noise that were really far away from each other, you know. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.120 And I remember reading in one of the articles that 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.480 I found, they were talking about that if it was 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.720 an animal that had made that noise, it would have 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.800 to be an order of magnitude larger than a whale, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:41.680 or at least be something that had some crazy huge 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.360 sound making apparatus in its bodies on the way to 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:46.760 say it's got he's got to have some kind of 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:51.240 crazy vocal chamber. Nothing is built with that, I mean, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.400 doesn't happen. Well, it's kind of like the aquatic version 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.439 of the Howler monkey. Yeah, maybe maybe there are such 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.240 things that it could be. But if that was the case, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.280 and they used to be getting picked up on hydrophones 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.520 all of it all the time. And that's the other 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.400 big question mark about this is that it's the only 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.680 time that a sound like this has recorded. Actually, but 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.840 addressing the whole issue of this is the only time, 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.240 I mean, most of most of those sound recordings there's 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.120 there's sometimes listened to in real time by by navy guys, 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.520 but a lot of it is just saved. It's just 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.280 saved a hard drives, saved the tapes whatever, and later analyzed. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.480 And so is it possible as anybody actually made a 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.880 concerted effort to go through the record and see if 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.200 there are analyzed to see if there are similar noises, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.920 and just because it's such a loud anomaly, and actually 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:52.040 they are five other sounds that are they're all classified 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:56.440 as unidentified sounds that have been recorded by these arrays 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.240 around the world that I'd love to also kind of 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:04.680 talk about a little it in conjunction with the plunk 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:10.480 and actually it's um, it's the Julia, the Train, the slowdown, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.079 the whistle, and the up sweep, and they're they're all released. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.000 So we should just like listen to each one of 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.480 them who comes up with these names. Well you'll listen 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.840 to them and you'll hear why they're Okay, all right, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:34.439 So here's the Julia. Do you hear how it kind 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:41.040 of sounded like a muffled Julia's almost something. Yeah, it's 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.600 definitely a weird noise. I mean, you know, don't get 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.840 me wrong. I'm okay, what's calling it? Julia? I don't 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:56.880 So Julia was heard on March on in the same 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.360 general location as the Blue was heard. Okay, so the 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.199 next one is the Train, which was heard on March five, 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.680 which was the same year that the Blue was heard 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:49.200 um in the raw Sea near Cape Andrea, Antarctica. So 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:50.959 the n O A A, which are the only people 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.800 who released these recordings, only released them at sixteen times 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.440 sped up of any anomaly. What are they trying to hide? 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.040 I think it's that's just like the Witching Hour for 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.520 all these that like they actually sound like they don't 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.760 really sound like much of anything that their actual, Yeah, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.840 it's just kind of like it's really long drawn out whatever. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:16.120 So the next one is the slowdown. The slowdown was 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:22.079 heard May couple of hundred miles north of Easter Island. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:44.400 Now that one sounds like Julia. Actually, that sounds like 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.160 a have you ever been in a subway and you 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.600 hear the train coming and it slows down? That's exactly 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.720 been the train. Should have called that the subway train. Yeah, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.240 I mean I get the train, I hear the whistle, right, Okay, 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.640 except for the next one. It's called the whistle. And 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.400 where did the whistle come from from? J um And 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.880 it's just southwest of Mexico City. It's like a couple 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:30.959 hundred miles southwest of that. The whistle to me just 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.680 kind of sounds like wind. It does sounds a little 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.240 weird underwater, right like I understand, but it just kind 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.520 of sounds like that's probably just a fast current over 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.439 a hydrophone, a lot of hydrophones. And then there's one 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.200 more and it's called the up sweep and it was 0:13:47.640 --> 0:14:12.960 recorded on August slightly southwest of New Zealand. That, yeah, 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.560 I think that was like being in a swamp with frogs. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.720 What this one's called the up Sweep, but it's in 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.720 the middle of the ocean, in between New Zealand and Antarctica. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.080 So these all happened in the all in the southern 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:32.200 hemisphere right between. Yeah, and you know, I guess the 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.440 thing is is that not all of them, actually half 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.560 of them are close to Antarctica, but half of them 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.520 are kind of spread out through the rest of the ocean, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.480 more close to the equator and things like that, So 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.560 they're kind of all over the place, all right. So 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.640 there are a couple of theories here. One, of course, animal. 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.960 We've kind of talked about it a little bit, that 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.280 it would be the vocalization of some kind of living organism, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.480 which still seems it would have to be a big 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:06.280 living organism, like really big, and correct me if I'm wrong, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.200 because I swear in the research when we were going 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.720 through things, I swear I saw something that one of 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.640 the one of the articles was talking about. Like I 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.200 said before, it would have to have something that just 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.080 had some huge noise making chamber on it, or it 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:26.320 was potentially something that lived super far down where the 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.800 water is a denser and be colder so that the 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.520 sound travels farther yea, so those are actually those were 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.120 absolutely the two kind of theories. One was that it 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.800 was a sort of like a giant squid type thing 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.480 using um like kind of a gas filled sack and 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.920 that it would have like exploded or whatever. So that 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.720 was one theory. And then the other theory was that 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.120 it would have been something that was really that was 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.640 a deep dweller, but this would have been like really 0:15:54.720 --> 0:16:00.120 uncomfortably shallow area for something like that to be existing. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.800 These microphones are not particularly deep down well. And and 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.200 first again because these just sped up sixteen times, so 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.880 the original sound would be very very low frequency, and 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.960 I don't know, I can't it's hard to imagine any 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.920 animal that could actually usefully use such a low frequency 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.840 For example, your perception of this sound. How big would 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.600 your ear drum have to be to pick up something 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.000 that low and frequency if you're trying to communicate using 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.560 sounds like that, I suppose, but I guess you know, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:32.280 the argument is that it may not be the sound, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.920 but the vibration that's important, vibration that that noise makes, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.080 and I don't know what kind of vibrations. Yeah, we 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:42.440 don't have a way to imagine that because we hear 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.120 in the air, not underwater. But then again, if you 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.480 you know, we've all been swimming, you've been underwater, and 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.200 you've heard things and they're very muffled. High frequencies really 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:56.760 get dropped down underwater. So it would make sense theoretically 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.800 that lower frequencies would be a better form of communication 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.120 because you can do them up easier. Yeah, I mean definitely. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.040 And and that's another thing about these sounds is that 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:12.240 they're inherently distorted by the distances because because higher higher frequencies, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.160 and if you have if you have any particular events, 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.360 there's gonna be high and low frequencies, like take let's 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:20.640 take an explosion for example, there's gonna be low frequency 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.480 and high frequency parts of that whole thing. But in 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.639 the water, the high frequency part of that is going 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.920 to be attenuated by the distance. Only the low frequency 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.560 part is going to carry through the entire way to 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.399 the hydrophone. So we're not you know, so we're just 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.360 hearing a bit of this sound and now not necessarily 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:43.760 actual representation of right. So on top of the animal theory, 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:50.440 also is the theory is actually what about the trip 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.840 of Chabra one? No, well, listen the Casula theory. If 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.640 we can suspend disbelief enough to say Casu is real 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.639 this instant, it only happened one thousand, seven hundred and 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.240 sixty kilometers away from the location of the sunken city 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:11.080 where Cathulu was imprisoned. Can nope? Can you? I cannot 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:16.560 show No, I can't. I'm not even sure that we're 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.320 pronouncing correctly. Who knows I mean in his language for 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.240 anybody who doesn't know who is Oh, Cathulu is a 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:28.320 mythical beast written about by HP Lovecraft. Okay, all right, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.159 just want to make sure everybody gets on board so 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.000 they know what we're talking about. This isn't just a 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.879 random term because we tend to almost do that. We 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.920 do sometimes it's true. So you know, I think that 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.880 if we can get to the point of Cthulhu is real, 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.679 that's a totally viable theory because he lives like not 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.080 very far away. He's giant, right, he could totally swim 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.400 that far. It wouldn't It would be like no thing 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.800 for him. And you know, he's just exploring, so he's 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.120 just checking out his hood. Yeah, and he he would 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.440 definitely fit the ill of a creature that's can make 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.440 that kind of noise and travel that kind of distance. Yeah, 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:10.160 I can see this. I don't I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:14.399 just suspend my disbelief of Cthulhu for the moment and say, yes, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:17.399 you're right. It would be a large enough creature to 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.720 get away with making that noise. So if if Cthulhu 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.320 is real, it was Cthulhu, But Becauthulu isn't real. Probably 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.119 that's as far as I'm aware. Unfortunately, unless he is. Unless, 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:35.680 Yeah there you go, okays be so again more We're 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.240 just gonna like delve deeper and deeper into the weird 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.119 outlandish theories. Yes, the next weird outlandish theory is Mermaids. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.800 I this can I can I stop for a second 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:51.040 and just everybody, including our listeners. I was reading this 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:55.520 story and going through this, and I got so excited 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.080 I threw my arms in the air and I shouted 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.440 in my house. It's Cathulhu in the Killer Mermaids. Yeah, 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:06.000 which I think is a great band name. Did Yeah, obviously, 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.439 I mean mermaid voices are kind of high pitched. You know. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.439 They had that sirens song thing that they used to 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:12.840 marriners to their death or something like that I don't 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.560 think there's the sirens anyway, so I forget that. But anyway, 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:18.119 but they don't have that those kind of deep streaty voices. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.480 So it was mermaids. No, no, no, you only you 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.000 have to assume. And I think this is fair that 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.040 they built an enormous gong and they were wapping it 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.240 with their tails in Unison. Well, so that actually is 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.680 that brings up my biggest problem with the mermaid theory, 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.560 aside from the like mermaids exist part right, is that 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:41.320 mermaids are ostensibly about human size, and if a humpback 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:46.040 whale can't make a noise loud enough to travel more 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:50.119 than eight hundred kilometers, how's a mermaid gonna do it? 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.120 I mean, maybe some kind of technology, But then why 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.960 aren't we picking up like way more of these things? Right, Yeah, 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.280 there's there's a there's a problem with that one to me. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:06.159 So okay, next outlandish awesome theory is that it was 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:13.320 trans dimensional travel entering or leaving our dimension deep blow 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:18.000 the sea? What what? What is that based on? You know, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.440 I think the theory that if you were going to 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.119 travel trans dimensionally, it would rip a loud whole in 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.360 whatever fabric of time space we have and that might 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:32.280 be allowed thing. Okay, but that's literally all that's all 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:42.040 you found. That's all I found. Okay. So there's that. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:48.880 Traveling a little back into the more valid theories are well, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.000 a few um that it would be what's called a 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:58.920 U s O an unidentified submerged object, so like a UFO, right, 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.840 but it's a U s S aentually aliens of alien 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.040 of nature or some black ops sub that we don't 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.000 know about that's being tested. My next theory, which is 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:14.720 Soviet Russia. Oh so specifically Soviet Russia doing what exactly. No, 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.800 I you know, it probably wasn't Soviet right in the nineties. Yeah, 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.399 they were kind of gone by that time. But you 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.439 know it could have been a bomb. I mean, it 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.120 probably wasn't. The analysis says it wasn't. But those people 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.600 are also paid by the Navy. True Navy saying no, 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:32.320 it doesn't sound anything like a bomb. You guys are crazy, 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.399 But it was actually a bomb detonating that would be 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:37.160 you know, kind of the place in the sea where 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.480 you would want to detonate a bomb. There's not a 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.880 whole lot of well, you know, that is one thing 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.200 that arena and have to assume The Soviets that the Russians, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.879 excuse me, have been a bit experimenting around with is 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:54.359 active sonar, and we've had active sonar for many decades, 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.960 but submarines don't actually use it. It's been because because 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.800 it gives away your position. And well, active sonar is 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.040 when whenever you're watching the movies or TV and they 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.800 show a submarine and you hear that noise. Active sonar 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.800 and so active centers when you send out a burst 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.480 of energy and it can be generated by your sonar, 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.920 electronic la or can be generated by an explosion and 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.000 they can echo that way, but active energy and then 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.120 you get a return signal and that allows you to localize, 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:28.040 you know, your opponent another submarine. Typically submarines don't use that. 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.280 They use passive center, which is they only use their 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.359 hydrophones and they never use their active center because it 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.119 will give away your position. It's like looking for somebody 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:37.640 in the dark field in the middle of the night 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.800 with a flashlight. They're going to see your flashlight long 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.840 before your flashlight picks them up. And so the problem 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.920 with passes sonar, it's have been very effective, it's used 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.280 not only by submarines, but also by the socist nets 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.679 to to detect all kinds of objects out there. But 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.320 the problem is that submarines are getting much quieter, and 0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:00.440 they're they're not they're now considering the problem of how 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.600 do we if they get to the point where our 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.639 hydrophones can't reliably pick up enemy subs, how are we 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.000 going to find them? And so they're they're returning to 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.400 the idea of active sonar. The idea would be very 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.360 powerful active sonars in your own submarine or uh an 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:19.840 energy source that's not actually localized in your submarine that 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:23.000 transmits a lot of energy and basically it's like setting 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.199 off a flash like a flash bowlb in a in 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.400 a huge dark room. You know, they get this big 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:30.439 flash of energy and suddenly it's all illuminated and you 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:34.119 can see who's there. And so they have been experimenting 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.400 with this kind of stuff. So it insconceivable that we 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:41.199 were talking some sort of like massive active sonar experimenting. 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.480 I guess that's true. Yeah, that if that somebody just 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:47.479 miscalculated where all these microphones were right, and they just 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.880 the plan that it would be able to go. Yeah, 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.760 I mean, that would make sense if it if it 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:56.280 were giant and it went off, that would hit all 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.080 of those mics at about the same time. It would 0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.320 be really fast. Okay, I'm sing into this theory. Yeah, 0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.280 I'm getting there. And here I thought I had to 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:07.320 figure it out. I'm sorry, okay, but I mean it's like, 0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.440 you know again, it's like I had no idea the 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.639 exact strength of when with their active soner experiments that 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.639 the Navy has been doing, the exact strength of the 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:20.040 signal they've been sending out. Uh, something that massive would 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.199 would send what you know, it's hard to say if 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.439 you could if there's a point of sending sending out 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.480 something that huge, because after all, you know, you're not 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.320 trying to identify targets a thousand miles away, You're trying 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.080 to identify targets, you know, miles away. You know, if 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.320 that even? Do you guys have any theories you want 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.080 to talk about before I dropped the bomb on this, 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.760