1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. We have just heard from President Biden 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: about why he now thinks the best way for him 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: to serve the country is to not serve a second term. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this very special episode of 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. Robes. We have now seen and heard 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: from President Biden for the first time since his decision 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to get out of the race. And what were you 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: expecting versus what we got? 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so a lot of things actually, So I 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: knew it would be probably short, but it was much 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: shorter than I expected. Eleven twelve minutes depending on who 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: was doing the timing. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Started on time eight o'clock Eastern. 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: Start, run on time, and I clocked it as a 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: twelve when he was done. So that was a little 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: shocking at just how short it was. I was surprised 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: that he never explained why he was getting out of 18 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: the race ever addressed the issues about the accusations about 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: his mental acuity. He never even touched on that, and 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: he barely spoke. I think it was one line about 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: the woman he endorsed, Kamala Harris. So those things all 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: surprised me. 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Let's go back here, we folks. The set up here 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: was that This was the speech, and with this was 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: the legacy speech. This is when he was supposed to 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: talk about what he has done as president and why 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: he's getting out of the race and for it to 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: be for the better event of the country. Now he 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: did do this from the Oval Office. This was a 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: prime time speech. He was in a navy suit. That's 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a royal blue tie. He looked, he looked sharp, He 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. He's gotten a little rest, I suppose 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: because he has been in isolation with COVID. But some 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: of the details and things we couldn't see and couldn't 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: know while the speech was going on if you were 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: watching it on televisions, that his family was in the room. 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: He had a number of members of his family robes 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: that were lining the wall. So they were sitting around 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: the wall of the old office. And who was it 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: that was sitting actually closest to him along that while 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: wall is one of the family members that a lot 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: of people say he should have been trying to distance 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: himself from. 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and someone who I have spent quite a bit 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: of time with, Hunter Biden. He was right next to him, 46 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: and his daughter Ashley was next to Hunter, and notably 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: doctor Jill Biden, his wife was at the far end. 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: So but yeah, that look, this was a historic moment. 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: This was a painful moment for him personally, for the family. 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: He absolutely did not want to get out of the race. 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: This was not something that he personally wanted to do. 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: There was clearly political pressure, and some people have suggested 53 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: this was even a political intervention of sorts. So this 54 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: resignation wasn't necessarily something he chose. A lot of people 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: have said he was forced out. So this had to 56 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: be an incredibly painful evening for President Biden and for 57 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: every member of his family who supported him. 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Painful. It adds to the political theater we have seen, 59 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: but it's been historical theater, it seems in this particular cycle. 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: But here we are watching and I guess not something 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: I would ever think I would see necessarily in my lifetime. 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: This wasn't a resignation, But this was a sitting president 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: deciding not to voluntarily deciding. Okay, we can yes, some 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: people will debate that word yea if this was voluntary, 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: but he's making the choice to step aside. So you've 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: got in our history. Lyndon Johnson, I guess was the 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: most famous and what was the line, I will not 68 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: accept what's the line he had the very famous line 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: about not accepting the nomination? Correct, you know what I'm 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: talking nineteen sixty eight. 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: That's how far you have to go back. So many 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: people presentaries included this is the first time in our 73 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: lifetimes we have seen a sitting president stand back and 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: say I will not I will not run for president again, 75 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: despite the fact that he had been elected through the 76 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: primary process to be the nominee. 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: And it's so rare. We up to forty six, right, 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: we have forty six presidents, so we're talking what we 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: got Coolidge, Truman, Hayes, you can polk. I believe we 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: had several that this actually happened in our history, but 81 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: it's just such a rare thing to take place. So, 82 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, this was a tough and was emotional night 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: and something still he did not want to do so. 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: But the content, I guess ropes of what he was 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: trying to get across tonight, and he uses line you'll 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: see it everywhere is that we are we don't kings 87 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: don't rule here, and that was really a theme of 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: what his speech was. He started off pretty much that way, saying, 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: this is not who we are. We have presidents. Our 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: presidents are not kings. And he never mentioned Donald Trump 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: a single time during the speech. He never even said 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: anything like the other candidate. He didn't say the other side. 93 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: But he tried to Roways make that point that he 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: was doing this as a matter of showing who we 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: are the republic. That is an idea that we haven't 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: quite made it there, but we are still trying. 97 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: So he talked about how he revered the office of 98 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: the presidency, but that he loved his country more and 99 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: that was one of the reasons why he said he 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: was stepping down. But as you point out, he never 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: mentioned the other party. He never mentioned Donald Trump, and 102 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: yet he did make this about protecting democracy directly implying 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: that voting for Donald Trump would be a vote against democracy. 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: And I think so a lot of folks who are 105 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: undecided or who are on the side of Trump look 106 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: at this as something that didn't feel genuine. So here 107 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: we have President Biden saying that he is trying to 108 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: unite the country. He said, we have a choice between 109 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: hope and hate, unity versus division. He asked whether or 110 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: not character in public life still mattered, and so he 111 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: was clearly drawing a line in the sand and basically 112 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: saying that a vote for Trump would be a vote 113 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: against democracy. So this wasn't necessarily a speech to the 114 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: American public. It absolutely was a political speech. And so 115 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: he had the opportunity perhaps not to do that, and 116 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: yet I understand we're in a political season that is 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: as tough as it's ever been, and so he took 118 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: the opportunity to to the party line, but did it 119 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: in the veil or acting as though he were doing 120 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: this for the American people. And so I think a 121 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: lot of people who and this is a divided country, 122 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: you look at this and say, you know, he could 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: have been a little bit more unifying. 124 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I absolutely think that he believes he was 125 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: being unifying in what he was saying. I know politics 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: always plays into this, but I think he genuinely believes 127 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: that the country needs to come together. I think a 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: lot of people believe the country needs to come together, 129 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: and he thought this was. Yeah, he talked about the 130 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: uniting the country, but he also talked about uniting the party. 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: He spoke specifically about the onus being on you, the voter, 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: the American public, to save the democracy is the line. 133 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: He you saved the democracy and the onus is on 134 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: you to do so, and his role in doing that 135 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: is to step aside. It's a step aside, he sa 136 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: it is now. The best way forward is for him 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: to pass the torch to another generation. So there's a 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: time and place or experience that time in place is 139 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: not now. The time in plays is now for a 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: younger generation and youngunger voices. We understand. I mean, this 141 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: guy's been in public office for fifty years and maybe 142 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: some are arguing that the biggest service he has done 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: to the country is to stop serving the country. That's 144 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: got to be tough to stomach tonight. It's a tough 145 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: night with the Biden family. 146 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it is a difficult thing to do. And I 147 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: was I think anybody could put themselves in that position 148 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: and think, Wow, this thing. You love this thing, You've 149 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: worked your whole life for this thing. You truly and 150 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: I do believe in his genuine care and concern for 151 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: our country in the direction it's headed and where he 152 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: wants to see it go. So his heart is in 153 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: the right place. But it's just it is a tough 154 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: thing to watch, and it had to have required so 155 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: much strength to be able to deliver that speech with 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: not just the world watching, but his family even more 157 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: so watching him just from a few feet away. So 158 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: the humbling, humbling experience. And you know, we all age, 159 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: We all, I think, fear what happens with age and 160 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: where we're all headed. And so it's tough to watch 161 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: because we're all headed in that direction and we won't 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: be our sharpest the older we get. And just watching him, 163 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: unfortunately have to acknowledge that in a very public way 164 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: is difficult to witness. It certainly is. But he did 165 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: not go into any of those details about where he 166 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: is mentally. And you know, maybe this is silly of me, 167 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: maybe this is the woman in me, but I actually 168 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: kind of wanted to hear how he felt emotionally about it. 169 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: Maybe that doesn't matter, but I kind of wanted to 170 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: see the human side of what he's been through over 171 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: the last few days and what led him to this decision. 172 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: I was hoping that maybe we would hear some of that, 173 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: because that just would have felt, i don't know, honest 174 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: and real and human, and I think I'm desperate for 175 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: that in politics. And maybe that's just a silly thing 176 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: for me to even want to reach too, because no 177 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: one would dare do that. But I actually think it's 178 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: so powerful when people are human, and I just I 179 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: wanted a little bit more of that. 180 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: But you know, it was a very human We all 181 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: see people in our families grow older. He did not 182 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: address this in that way we can all kind of relate. 183 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: But watching him on TV tonight, if you've got a 184 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: chance to, or you'll see clips at some point, there's 185 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: one thing I think the most powerful images of the 186 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: night are the still images of his family lined up 187 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: along the walls of that oval to watch this guy 188 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: they love have to do something that we know he 189 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: did not want to do, so he will no matter what. 190 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: He's going to remain president. He says he's still got 191 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: some work to do over the next several months, things 192 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: he wants to get accomplished. He mentioned some of them, 193 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: including Supreme Court reform. Tonight, Again, like I said, he 194 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: did not mention Donald Trump by name, but he did 195 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: mention Kamala Harris like you were saying ropes. Yes, it 196 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: makes sense now that I sit here, But at the 197 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: time I thought he thought there'd be two sentences. There 198 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: was essentially one she's experienced, she's tough, she's capable, and 199 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: that was kind of it. But maybe that's okay. This 200 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: is not supposed to be her night. She'll have plenty 201 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: of attention and eyeballs on her. But that was the 202 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: nod he still gave tonight. 203 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I just look. I wish I could 204 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: have heard more from him, from his heart, more from 205 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: him about what this decision was like for him, more 206 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: from him about where he is in his life, and 207 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: I just wanted more. I think twelve minutes wasn't enough. 208 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: I wish I could have heard more from him, and 209 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: then there would have been maybe, yeah, a little bit 210 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: more time to give Kamala a little bit more of 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: a nod. I do, And I don't want to harp 212 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: too much on what he didn't say. Something he did 213 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: say struck me. And we were watching the analysis before 214 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: and we watched some of the analysis afterwards. We had 215 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: all the networks up, we had two computers up and 216 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: the actual television sets. We watched the MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, 217 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: so we're getting it from all the different vantage points. 218 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: But I didn't hear anybody point this out yet. But 219 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: there was a point in his speech where he said, 220 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: I he said, I promise to level with you. I 221 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: promised to tell you the truth. And then he didn't 222 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: see anything beyond that, And I was kind of holding 223 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: my breath because I was hoping he was going to 224 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: then maybe go into some of those details I was 225 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: talking about, because, as you know, if you've been watching 226 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: and I'm sure if you will watch any of the 227 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: political commentary following this and leading up to the election, 228 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: one of the big allegations the Republicans in the right 229 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: are going to point to, not just Joe Biden, that 230 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: Joe Biden administration, but Kamala as well and anyone associated 231 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: with them, is that they were covering up Joe Biden's 232 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: cognitive decline. And so that's going to be a huge, 233 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: huge part of this campaign going forward. So anyway, I 234 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: just wondered if that part of his speech will come 235 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: back to bite him, because he made a point to 236 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: say that he was leveling with the American people and 237 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: telling us the truth, and that's what's in question from 238 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: the other side. 239 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: That is what I think a lot of people were 240 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: holding their breadth for tonight. If there's going to be 241 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: a look from the other side, there'll be a criticism. 242 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: But to that exact point, he didn't. If he thinks 243 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: that he's getting out, if he's getting out of the 244 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: race now because he thinks it's the best for the 245 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: country and the party, there is a why do you 246 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: think that's the best for the country and the party? 247 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: The why was not answered. He only said it's time 248 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: for younger voices. When did he come to that conclusion 249 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: about when it's time for younger voices? And why didn't 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: you come to this conclusion several months ago or before 251 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: the primaries actually started? That the why? So a lot 252 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: of the why has to do with, for those on 253 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: the outside, his cognitive ability, how he performed in that debate. 254 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: He's old now and he's not up for the task. 255 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: He never addressed age or anything about his cognitive ability, 256 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: and so his reasons for getting out of the race, 257 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: at least listening to this twelve minute speech, had nothing 258 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: to do with that. And I don't think a lot 259 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: of people are going to buy that for a second. 260 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: So robes that we both sat on the edge of 261 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: our seat truth being transparent with you. I promised I 262 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: would do that, and then it trailed off. We were 263 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: sitting out waiting this is going to be lined up, 264 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and there was nothing after that. 265 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, yeah, I mean, I do appreciate the sentiment 266 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: he made about the fact that nothing can come in 267 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: the way of the greater good, and he pointed out 268 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: not even personal ambition. And I do know that watching 269 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: him tonight, he has clearly set aside personal ambition. It's 270 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: something that has motivated it, I'm sure, and driven him, 271 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: driven many of us in our careers to get to 272 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: where he is, and to have to set that aside 273 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: is a big deal. And we saw him do that tonight, 274 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: and for that, I do think, you know, you never 275 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: know how the history books will look on a president, 276 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: but I do think for this moment, for his choice, 277 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: how he got to it, it can be up for debate, 278 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: But the fact that he did come to this evening 279 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: and make this speech, I think people will look back 280 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: and say this was an act of generosity, This was 281 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: an act for the greater good, and certainly a selfless 282 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: one and a difficult one and a humbling one to 283 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: do and then to witness, you. 284 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: Say, a humbling one. But how history will will never know, 285 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: but we just need to I guess there how are 286 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: people going to receive this over just the next few months, 287 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: because this, I mean the idea, that's how it's going 288 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: to be spun. On one side, he is putting he 289 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: is so committed to making sure the democracy is preserved, 290 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: and that Donald Trump isn't in the Why he is 291 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: so committed to that that he's willing to get out 292 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: of the race. Compare that, folks to the other side 293 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, who was willing to do whatever it 294 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: took to stay in power. Now, that is an argument 295 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: that one side is going to trying to make and 296 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: juxtapose those two images. The side or the argument the 297 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: other side is going to make is he's out of 298 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: the race because he got pushed out by his own people. 299 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: They don't They saw their chances and they didn't like it, 300 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: so they just decided to switch horses. And by the way, 301 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: they've been covering up for the longest his ability to 302 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: do the job. That is the other side and the 303 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: other argument, And what he didn't do tonight was answer 304 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: any critic that might have a question about how he's 305 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: doing as an eighty one year old man. 306 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because there are genuine concerns about what the next 307 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: six months look like, is he the president? Is he 308 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: co leading with Kamala? And has that been happening? We 309 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: don't know, and a lot of people are asking that question. 310 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't think he made people feel better about that 311 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: with this speech, and he had the opportunity to do that, 312 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: and I. 313 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: No, not once, no, not anything about it in the 314 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: room wasn't acknowledged. 315 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: And that is part of the problem with politics in general, 316 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: because don't we see that all the time from so 317 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: many people. So I'm curious, are we going to see 318 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: Joe out in the campaign trail with Kamala? Is Kamala 319 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: going to distance herself from him? Is he going to laylaw? 320 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of questions about what the 321 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: next few weeks and months are going to be like. 322 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 2: But I fear that the tone is, you know, we 323 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: talked about how we were hopeful. Maybe just gosh, think 324 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: about the last four weeks. You go from that debate 325 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: that set this whole entire night in motion and to 326 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 2: a to an assassination attempt to today. I mean, I 327 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: can't even recall four weeks like this in political history 328 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: that I've witnessed in my life like I've seen in 329 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: the last four weeks and I can't even imagine what 330 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: the next few months are going to be. I mean, 331 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: it's like I can't even imagine. 332 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: So there's a sprint to the finish a line I 333 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: guess for Vice President Harris now, and everybody's up giving 334 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: all the scenarios for how she her path weighs to 335 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: victory and the electoral College. So you'll see a lot 336 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: of that. The thing, however, look, you will see of 337 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: a lot about favorables and unfavorables. Joe Biden's approval rating 338 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: was somewhere in the mid thirties. Kamala Harris's was somewhere 339 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: in the high thirties. 340 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 341 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: Right, so maybe a little bump and whatnot. But what 342 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats just gave Americans who weren't excited at all 343 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: about this election, which might be the thing that tips 344 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: them tips the scale. They just gave them something that 345 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: people desperate for, an alternative to two old guys who 346 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: were in the last matchup. Yeah, like, we don't give 347 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: us anything other than this, and Democrats just gave it 348 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: to them. Here's an alternative here. You didn't want these 349 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: two A lot of people didn't want that matchup. So 350 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: could that be one of the things, and of course 351 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the black vote specifically. We have seen today all over 352 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: television black women, black women, black women rallying with black women, 353 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: black women. It's going to be a very big focal 354 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: point of this of the Harris campaign to try to 355 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: drive a vote, because it's going to be necessary now. 356 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: But to see some of that come through in the 357 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: speech tonight, we've turned another page in this election. But 358 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: that's huge. They've given people what they desperately. Black people 359 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: weren't excited about either one of these candidates. 360 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: We know this it's a rematch, so it's like, really, 361 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: we can't we can't get someone other than these two 362 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: Caucasian old men. Yes, that's been a big, big complaint, 363 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: and now there is an alternative and we'll see what happens. 364 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: But we've already started to see the coverage switch and 365 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: it's on. The politics at its worst, perhaps is on. 366 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I wish it wouldn't be that way, but 367 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: I think we're in for a difficult, difficult next few months. 368 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: We always say, look, the country's been through worse, right, 369 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: and we'll make it through this like we've made it 370 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: through everything else. But what a night for the guy 371 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: has fifty years of service, and his biggest act, and 372 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: some are arguing now, is that he is deciding not 373 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: to serve. And you're going to hear a line a 374 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: lot out there about a kid with us stutter, and 375 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: that's how he described himself tonight, as a kid with 376 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: a stutter who ascended to the presidency, and that same 377 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: kid with a stutter was in the Oval Office tonight 378 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: having to do what was would argue maybe the most 379 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: difficult thing he's had to do in his professional career, 380 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: and we know it was something he did not want 381 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: to do. And for his family and look for people 382 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: who love him and support him, you can see them 383 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: all over sometimes the way they speak about him on television, 384 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: people who have worked for him. Look, it's a tough day. 385 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: And that image, right, it looked the image outside of 386 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: the Whitehouse of all the staffers we've been seeing the 387 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: video going to a watch party and the White House 388 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: is kind of sad, like a slow procession. 389 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they said there was going to be pizza and 390 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: beer and wine. So it was this bizarre you know, 391 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: obviously it wasn't celebratory, and yet they were still perhaps 392 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: applauding his decision to do the right thing by the party, 393 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: and he would say for the country. I heard one 394 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: commentator say this, so I couldn't. I wouldn't ever claim this, 395 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: but I thought it was so well said. Before the 396 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: speech began, she said, this is the most important speech 397 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: he never wanted to give, and it may be the 398 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: thing he's most remembered for. We heard him tonight talk 399 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: about all of his accomplishments as president, and I'm sure 400 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: he will remember those, but this perhaps will be the 401 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 2: thing he's remembered most for, stepping down and letting that fresher, 402 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 2: younger voice carry on. 403 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: And now, just as the news keeps coming in, there 404 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: was a you'll see an image of it. But doctor Biden, 405 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: the first lady they've been thorin this handwritten note that 406 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: she sent to staff. But the con the contents of 407 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: that note, she says, to those who never wavered, to 408 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: those who refused to down, to those who always believed. 409 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: My heart is full of gratitude. Thank you for the 410 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: trust you put in Joe. Now it's time to put 411 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: that trust in Kamala. Page is being turned. How much 412 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: we'll see? Will we see that much of him? How 413 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: much are we right? We have to turn that page. 414 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: And sure he'll be on the campaign trail. Shure, we'll 415 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: probably see some, but it's got to be you have 416 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: to think it's gonna be few and far between. This 417 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: is now Kamala Harris's party. 418 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: It is now Kamala Harris's party, but she has yet 419 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: to receive the nomination officially. That may happen as early 420 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: as early August. We may be waiting until the convention, 421 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 2: but that's not as likely. We believe here within the 422 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: next probably week or two, they do have that virtual 423 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: roll call that perhaps she will be the nominee, but 424 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: certainly the presumptive nominee. As it stands right now, no 425 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: one has actively decided to run against her, and that's 426 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 2: highly unlikely. So and just you, we heard Trump on 427 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: the on the stump today in North Carolina and it's 428 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: all about Kamala. So they they've already they've already gotten 429 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: their talking points and it is it is Trump versus 430 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: Common even though. 431 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: It's not official. 432 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: Yes, that is where we are headed. 433 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: She does have enough, I mean enough have publicly come 434 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: out and said that they but no voting has started, 435 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: but enough have come out. Delegates have come out publicly 436 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: and said there she has enough, So that's not the 437 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: issue at all. But to hear, to hear the Republican 438 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: now talking points everywhere, the same ones. Our borders are radical, 439 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: they're going to hear radical. You're going to hear about 440 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: our prosecutorial records. You're going to hear. Even Trump was 441 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail saying she failed the bar exam. Yes, right, 442 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: it begins here we go. But you know, if we 443 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: can stop with violence, political violence, if we can get 444 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: back to you know, just healthy debate. 445 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: You know what, let's like, let's let's just yes, let's 446 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: let it be about where each candidate is taking our 447 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: country and the policies they endorse. We can vote on 448 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: that and hopefully we will have the best person win 449 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: come November. 450 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Well, right now, President Biden lost his fight. There was 451 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: no way he could fight his own party. There's no 452 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: way he could do that and fight Donald Trump at 453 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: the same time. So President Biden will remain president and 454 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: all the job for the next six months, but he 455 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: will not be the candidate is now Kamala Harris, he 456 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: has made the speech we were waiting on again. He 457 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: just came out of COVID. I mean, he's we haven't 458 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: really seen him out and acted it. To be honest 459 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: with you, it was nice to see him and to 460 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: be honest, and I know you feel this way out. 461 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: Well no excuse me, I won't speak for you in this, 462 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: but you're you're sitting there and you're you're kind of 463 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: hoping your he does okay, like I hope he gets 464 00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: through this speech. Any major gaffes, Yeah, he just mean, you. 465 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: Know, look, I think the bar unfortunately was set pretty 466 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: low after that debate. So anything above that, you're like, Okay, 467 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: that wasn't that was that was that was pretty good 468 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: and uh, that's not what you want from a presidential candidate. 469 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: And so it was his time and and he has 470 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, he he got to do it his way 471 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: with his speech in his moment, and it was tonight. 472 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: And we'll continue to follow all of the events that 473 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: will continue to unfold here in this country over the 474 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: next few months. But we appreciate you listening to us. 475 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: We hope you have a wonderful night. You can always 476 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: find us on Instagram at Amy and TJ Podcast. 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