WEBVTT - Part Two: The Grifters Behind The Fake Autism 'Cure' Industry 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:02.880 A media. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.080 Hi, everybody, it's James here. If you don't listen to 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:07.960 it could happen here, you might not recognize me. My 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:09.760 name is James Stout and I am the guy who 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:13.000 pops onto this feed every few months to tell you 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.960 something very sad and then ask for your money. And 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.840 that's why I'm here today. A terrible earthquake struck me 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.240 and Ma today the day I'm recording this, which is Friday, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.560 the twenty eighth of March, it was seven point seven 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.680 on the Rigter scale. We know of more than one 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.080 hundred deaths, but it's likely the death toll is much 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.000 much much higher. 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No cometh the time cometh the Man. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.960 And I had a vision last night while I was dreaming. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.480 Yeah, you're really not helping this series. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.560 No, No, I had a vision while I was dreaming 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.880 about how to save America. And so I'm gonna. I've 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.840 decided I'm running in twenty twenty eight, and I'm running 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.080 on a platform of Look, one of the big problems 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.120 the liberals and the progressives have. They all think, if 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.800 you make education better, you know, if you get enough 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.440 dunks on people in public debates or whatever, you can 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:41.240 stop parents in the like from like putting poison into 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.080 their kids to try to treat ill understood conditions, right, 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.400 and you can't. You can't stop people from wanting something 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.360 to do. So let's give them something to do that's 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.320 basically harmless. And that's why, as a presidential candidate, my 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:00.640 entire platform is going to be legalize and subsidence using 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.440 federal money. A seven dollars bar of xanax, the size 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.680 of a Snickers bar. You just get them over the counter, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:13.240 any grocery store, any pharmacy, just a SNICKERX. You can 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.000 lick it like a horse, you can do whatever you 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.680 want with it, seven dollars flat. You know, that's how 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.840 we're gonna fix things in this country. Look, every problem 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.440 the seven dollars XANX Snickers bar solved, Right? He got 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.560 a guy walks into a fucking public building wanting to 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.440 do a mass shooting, reaches for his gun, finds a 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.680 seven dollars snickers bar, a XANX bites it, forgets why 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:40.240 he's there. Problem solved. You know, everything could be this way. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.040 I'm so glad. Yeah, this is this. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.240 Is how we save America. I'm convinced everyone vote Evans 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.840 twenty twenty eight for your seven dollars stickers bar of xanax. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.520 I mean, we went to both the RNC and DNC, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.880 and you know, at least somebody's got a big idea. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.480 Yeah, yeah, again, we won't have any more elect They 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.919 are gonna be like three votes that make it in 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.360 every election, and none of them will have a legit, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.320 like a readable name. It's just going to be scribbles 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:12.320 on a piece of paper. Who's the president? Fuck it? 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.080 Uh So, let's get back into this less happy story 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:29.600 of medicine. The Autism Research Institute and our buddy doctor 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.599 Rimland wrote in to defend doctors Usman and Carrie after 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.760 Tarik's death, writing in a post on the institute's website 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.000 that Tarik had died not because of chellation therapy, but 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.240 because of an error that had seen him dosed with 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:47.080 a look alike drug dy sodium edta instead of calcium 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.000 die sodium edta. Now, first off, I don't think the 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.240 argument we didn't kill him with bad medicine. We killed 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.480 him because we cruelly administered a deadly dose of the 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:04.440 wrong drug makes things beat. Yeah, that's like, no, no, no, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.080 I didn't give him finanyl. I just shot him up 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:12.039 with way too much heroin. Like, I don't really see 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:17.400 how that helps. This is also untrue. Tarik was administered 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.720 with the normal kind of DTA used in chilation therapy, 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.960 which is the only client kind the clinic had stocked. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.360 In subsequent publications, doctor Rimland bragged that chelation therapy had 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.400 consistently good results as rated by paraments who were surveyed 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.919 by AR. In fact, it was the number one pick 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.200 out of eighty eight approved interventions. A subsequent trist Yes, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:44.000 they love this because it's clearly is serious medicine. Right. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.880 It doesn't help, It makes things worse generally, but it's 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.160 it has a massive visible effect. I think that's honestly 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.240 the whole reason why. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:51.600 Right. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.320 A subsequent statement put out by Dan claimed that chelation 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.640 was one of the most beneficial treatments for autism and 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:03.360 related disorders. Now, aluminum, lead, and mercury aren't the only 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.760 metals that got blamed. I found a Chicago Tribune piece 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.960 that gives the story of a boy named Jordan King 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.040 who was chelated for high levels of mercury and tin. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.240 This is where there's a quote in there from like 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.680 an expert on tin poisoning who's like, yeah, it basically 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:21.720 it is for like industrial workers who are like welding 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:27.160 tin for a living, you know, like, but not little kids. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.880 There's no way to get enough exposure to tin. Really, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:39.320 is your kid welding a shitload of tin? Then then 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.680 we have other issues. It's not the problem you're letting 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:48.280 your five year old world. What are you doing? Take 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:53.320 that torch away from them? Now, the actual explanation for 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:53.880 why this. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.800 Kid productive, like, you know, sure, why why not? 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.600 Why not get that it's good for kids to have 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.080 a hobby. There at least they're touch If they can't 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.360 touch grass, they might as well teach touch hat in tin. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.239 Now again they do they do a test which shows 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.840 high levels of mercury and tin in this kid's blood. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.800 But that's not the whole story about that and you're like, oh, well, 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.560 maybe there was something about why would they have elevated levels? Well, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.520 the explanation for why and for why all of the 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.840 kids that get tested in order to justify this therapy 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.360 have elevated levels of different heavy metals is because of 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.320 the very the distinctly a scientific kind of lab test 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.160 that they give these kids. Right, you would think, if 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.400 you're like, this kid probably has high levels of heavy metals, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.560 we might want to administer chelation therapy. You're not a doctor, mangesh, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.080 would you first? What would you do first? If you 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.240 thought they might have high levels of heavy metals? Get 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:55.160 a blood tuft right, very basic science, right, Okay, you 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.679 think this is true, Let's test their blood. No, no, no, no, no. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:06.720 The way you give these blood is, first you chilate 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.079 the child. You shoot them up with this thing that 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.480 strips heavy metals out of their blood and makes them 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.720 pee it out, right, and then you test them. Right, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.960 so you give them a drug that provokes them to 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.080 excrete heavy metals and then test them. And then you 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.600 know what, You're gonna find some heavy metals because you 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:32.840 gave them the drug that makes them excrete them. And 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.840 here's the thing, there's no except because this isn't the 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.559 way science. You don't do this otherwise. There's no accepted 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.240 understanding for what normal results on a test given after 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.560 chellation would be. So there's no actual medical case for 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.280 like drugging people and then testing them like this. So 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.760 the lab just shows back charged that shows scary spikes 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.280 of different metals, and the clinician says, look, kids. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:57.400 Got it. 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.640 You know we need to keep doing this now, doctor, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.840 in case you don't believe me, and you should not. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:08.080 A doctor, doctor Carl Baum, director of the Center for 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:13.559 Children's Environmental Toxicology at the Yale Newhaven Children's Hospital, calls 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.440 this quote exactly the wrong way to do it. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:17.880 Wow. 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:21.960 Now. Doctor Usman did ultimately face mild consequences. In two 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.439 thousand and nine, The Chicago Tribune featured her in their 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.960 Dubious Medicine investigation, which helped push for a pro by 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.760 the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation. They alleged 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:36.400 that she had provided medically unwarranted treatment that may potentially 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.800 result in permanent disabling injuries to two boys. Quote from 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.280 the Tribune and reaching a consent order with Usman. Medical 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.640 regulators alleged that Usman failed to disclose to her patients 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.160 her financial interests in the company supplying the hyperbaric oxygen 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.760 chambers and in the compounding pharmacy that filled prescriptions for 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.920 her patients. The state said that she also failed to 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.640 obtain informed consent for the chelation there and did not 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.520 keep adequate medical records for her patients. Usman, who practices 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.000 out of the True Health Medical Center in Naperville, neither 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.360 admitted nor denied the state's allegations, and signing the consent order, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.680 she agreed to pay a ten thousand dollars fine. Great, Ken, 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.160 I love that this is the punishment. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.520 Yeah, I know, I know. It's crazy. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.280 Now, the other boy that she is accused of harming 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.960 in this case was a Chicago child, the son of 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.120 James Coman. We don't get this kid's name because they're 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.200 a kid who was engaged in a custody battle with 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.440 his ex wife over there, kid who was a child 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.080 with autism. Now, the kid's mom is a believer of 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.840 these biomedical interventions for their son's autism. James is not. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.560 James recognizes this is pretty dangerous and he gets trapped 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.120 in this nightmare of trying to advocate for his son 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.960 against the wishes of the boy's mother. Here's how. A 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.079 different article by The Tribune titled Autism's Risky Experiments describes 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.880 his regimen of treatment. Quote, James Commen's son has an 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.559 unusual skill. This seven year old, his father says, can 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:06.040 swallow six pills at Once Diagnosed with autism as a toddler, 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.840 the Chicago boy had been placed on an intense regiment 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.480 of supplements and medications aimed at treating the disorder. Besides 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.439 taking many pills, the boy was injected with vitamin B 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.640 twelve and received in intravenous effusions of a drug used 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.320 to leech mercury and other metals from the body. He 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.880 took megados as, a vitamin C, a hormone, and a 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:28.959 drug that suppresses testosterone. They're just doing everything to this 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:29.959 kid again. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:34.520 Fact that he can swallow seven pills. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:39.600 He's able to take so many pills. That's not talent. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.240 Yeah now. The Comban boy also suffered extreme negative side 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.200 effects from chillation, although thankfully not fatal ones. This provoked 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.720 his father to sue, and his mother responded by complaining 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.880 that any interruption of his complex, nonsense therapeutic routine would 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.560 have a disastrous impact on the boy, setting him back. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.240 You know that Tribune article written in two thousand and 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.080 nine some up the scope of the biomedical movement at 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.880 the time. Studies have shown that up to three quarters 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.160 of families with children with autism try alternative treatments, which 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.560 insurance does not usually cover. Doctors many link to the 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:16.200 influential group Defeat Autism now promote the therapies online, in 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.920 books and it conferences. Intensive regiments are so common that 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.120 one doctor recently joked at an Autism one conference in Chicago, 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.600 you know you have a child with autism. If your 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.800 child takes more pills than your grandmother. He's joking about 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.560 all the drugs you're giving kids. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.520 I love that. Like, you know, you're a redneck. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.440 If like is his the f share man that makes 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:43.680 you sound good, sounds like you're a doctor great. It 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.120 also made a point of discussing how the social media 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.400 era had provided oxygen to the hyperbaric chamber fire that 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.200 is the biomedical movement. Quote. Parents trade stories and advice 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.600 about chelation on large internet groups. One Yahoo group has 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.000 more than eight thousand members. The treatment takes many forms, 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.679 including creams for the skin, capsule suppositories and intravenous infusions 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.160 of powerful medicines usually reserved for people with severe metal poisoning. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.679 The hype was so big around this stuff in two 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.400 thousand and six that the National Institute of Mental Health 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.040 announced a randomized control style trial of chilation as an 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.760 autism treatment. So an actual legitimate medical body says, let's 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.880 do a trial. So many people are saying this helps 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.880 their kids, let's look into it, right, and ultimately they 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.360 cancel that trial in two thousand and eight because they 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.360 can't find any evidence that there's benefit to it, and 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.760 there's a lot of evidence that even trying this will 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:40.440 put kids at risk, right, significant risk, because chelation is 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.560 not good for you if you don't need it. So like, 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.440 it's actually unethical for us to study this because there's 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.080 zero evidence that's helped anybody, and we know it hurts people, 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.240 so we just can't do this to kids. Now. They 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.040 also they've done some studies on lab rats that have 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:01.480 showed that drugging lab rats needlessly with chilation therapy causes 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.120 cognitive problems. Right, so they're like, this, we just really 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.400 can't justify doing this, and this is good logic for 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.240 ethical scientists, but the crazed parents and con artist doctors 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.480 of the biomedical movement take this as evidence that big Side, 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.680 Big Pharma has killed another attempt to uncover the truth. Right, 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.600 that's why they don't care about hurting kids. They just 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.320 want to They want to keep selling us expensive medicine 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:29.640 that actually isn't as expensive as the fake medicine. 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:31.000 That's so awful. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.200 You see similar stories wherever you look at these nonsense 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.440 treatments for autism. In two thousand and seven, the Cochrane Collaboration, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.200 an independent evaluator of medical research, reviewed the efficacy of 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.480 casin and gluten free diets as treatments for autism, which 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.960 had become another bugbear for biomedicine. The idea that some 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.560 of these biomedical people have is that gluten and casein 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.560 interferes with kids' brain receptors, and advocates would cite studies 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.600 which prove that proper diet could eliminate the symptoms of autism, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.560 But for scientific American cock And identified two very small 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.520 clinical trials, one with twenty participants and one with fifteen. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.680 The first study found some production and autism symptoms, the 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.080 second found none. A new randomized controlled trial of fourteen 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.240 children reported this past May by Susan Hyman, an associate 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.040 professor of pediatrics at the University of Rochester School of 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.320 Medicine and Dentistry, found no changes in attention, sleep, stool patterns, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.880 or characteristic autistic behavior. Slowly, the evidence is starting to 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.160 accumulate that diet is not the panacea people are hoping for, 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.120 says Susan E. Levy, a pediatrician at the Children's Hospital 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.960 of Philadelphia who has evaluated the evidence with Hymen. Of course, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.120 logic and evidence never drives the reactions you want to 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.000 see in cases like this. Right, Fitzpatrick's book includes a 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.960 quote from an anti mercury campaign in the US Generation Rescue. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:50.920 This is what's her name? The Oprah Ladies, Jenny McCarthy's organization. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.600 Oh ye yeah. This statement was made initially in response 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.040 to Tareik Nadama's death. You might want to recall here 0:16:56.080 --> 0:17:00.200 that Tarik was diagnosed with like high aluminum levels, not mercury. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.960 But whatever quote. We are not desperate parents willing to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.160 try anything. We are educated, caring parents who have done 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.240 thousands of hours of research and administered dozens of medical 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.439 tests on our own children under the care of knowledgeable physicians. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:19.080 Wow, great, wasn't it wasn't Jenny Mathey's kid also like 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.840 like she said he was this autistic and then she. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.359 Said she's cured him. She says she's cured him. Yeah, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.960 I hope that kid is okay. I don't know. But 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.359 now this kind of talk is like, well, we've actually 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.240 we're the experts. We've done so much, you know, to 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.920 understand this. It's very common among the loudest mouthpieces of 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.439 the movement, which includes Jenny McCarthy. We've discussed before her 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.080 appearances on the Oprah Winfrey Show, which played a massive 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.240 role in igniting the anti VAXX movement in the US. McCarthy, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.880 whose son Evan was diagnosed with autism, describes herself as 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:54.639 having a PhD. In Google She does not, but she 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.879 did have a role to play in the death of 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.520 that five year old who burnt alive in a hyperbaric chamber. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.680 And two and sixteen, Jenny pivoted from her successful anti 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.479 vax campaign and started advocating a hyperbaric oxygen therapy as 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.359 a treatment for ASD. The scientific argument she used was 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.200 that people with ASD have and this is autism spectrum disorder. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:14.480 Right. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.920 The scientific argument she used was that people with ASD 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.280 have inflammation in their brains, which is true. You can 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.960 if you like, one thing you can see is that, 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.920 like there's a level of inflation in the brains of 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:28.159 people with autism. Inflammation in the brains people with autism. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.560 We don't know why, We don't know like how this 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.000 relates to the like, we just know it's there. Right, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.280 So there's a lot of debate about this, but it 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.480 is something you see. And it is true that hyperbaric 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.200 therapy has decreased other kinds of inflammation, but not in 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:48.320 the brain. Yeah, different, like stuff doesn't always it's not 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:49.840 all the same, right. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.920 You know, even though right, the microbiome being different of 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:58.240 autistic kids and diet not being able to affect the right. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.120 Like, yeah, it's hard. Yeah. And so it's this thing 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:06.040 where like you are taking two unrelated facts and using 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.000 them to put kids in these death tubes. Now, actual 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.239 analysis of the evidence, because there have been studies on 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.800 this shows that the only basis for hyperbaric therapy as 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.160 a treatment for autism was one flawed study that showed 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:22.120 a benefit. Per PubMed quote HBO two that's the name 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.040 for hyperbaric therapy should not be recommended for ASD treatment 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:28.359 until more conclusive, favorable results and long term outcomes are 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:32.800 demonstrated from well designed, controlled trials. A write up from 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.280 this time by the American Council on Science and Health 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.399 states despite all of this caution in doubt, McCarthy believes 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.639 that she knows better. Her organization, Generation Rescue, is holding 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:45.640 the third annual Autism Education Summit this weekend in Addison, Texas, 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.440 just north of Dallas, to promote HBO two therapy for ASD. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:54.640 This conference included an expert panel of chiropractice and osteopaths, 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.199 as well as along with those August medical experts, a 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.680 YouTuber named Lily who made have video about hyperbaric treatment 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.439 helped her little sister. McCarthy was joined on the panel 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.280 by Dell big Tree, producer of the movie Vaxed in 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.160 one of the ladies from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:20.159 Truly posy from the Greatest Minds in Medicine awesome. Another 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:25.920 conference expert was doctor anju Usman, whose husband sells hyperbaric chambers. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:32.399 Oh my god, I was not expecting that twelve. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.000 Oh yeah, baby, Now this is all made especially infuriating 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.080 because four years before this conference, in twenty twelve, a 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.040 four year old boy and his sixty two year old 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.399 grandmother died after the hyperbaric chamber the boy was in 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.880 caught fire at the Ocean Hyperbaric Center in Florida. Francesco 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:55.719 had cerebral palsy, which hyperbaric therapy does not treat, and 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.119 he had traveled to South Florida from Italy, where the 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.440 treatment is illegal, with his grand mother and he caught 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.440 on fires. You tried to save them, they both die 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.280 nightmarish deaths. Four years before this conference, where Jane McCarthy 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.160 saying everybody should do this for their kids. Now, none 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:12.879 of these deaths, none of these injuries, none of the 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:16.159 illnesses caused by all this bullshit treatment means anything to 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.240 most of these people. Their only interest is their children. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.200 And one of the issues here is that because of 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.640 the way autism works, for most people who have autism, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.159 you see, around the time the symptoms become evident, it 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.040 seems like they're regressing. Right, They stop making eye contact, 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.479 they stop engaging as much, and this can be very 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.520 dramatic and very shocking to parents, right, But most people 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:40.720 with autism, their symptoms then improve over time because they 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.439 grow up and they get used to dealing with and 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.440 engaging in the world, right, they just that's just life. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.320 You know, this is going to be the case with 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.040 the majority of people who get diagnosed with autism. You 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.560 will see the symptoms get alleviated. So if you're just 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.480 dosing them with every random drug you can get your 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:02.520 hands on, they likely show improvement in some ways just 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.520 as they grow up and people convince themselves, I saved 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.440 my kid. You know, at least they're better because of 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.520 all of this shit I did. When like you could 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:13.560 have just loved them with the help, you know, maybe 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.600 gotten some dream of the gi issues or whatever, but 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:17.760 like you could have just loved them, you know, you 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.120 didn't have to do all this other shit. But it's 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.680 just like you know, life, people find ways to interact 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.480 and deal with the world, like David Lynch. 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:26.960 You know. 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:33.840 This is again because people with autism are people. But yeah, 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.720 as a result of this fact, many of these parents 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:37.639 will go to their graves secure in the belief that 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.600 they stood up for their kid and helped save them, 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.479 even if all they did was make the world more 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.080 comfortable for the kind of con men who encouraged children 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:48.920