1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Scott You ready, Oh, kurty b I'm ready to laugh 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: and laugh and love. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: Here it is Harvard professor who researches honesty accused of 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: falsifying data. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: I love to hear it. Well, we'll get to the truth. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: We'll get down to the real truth of the matter 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: on this very very truthful bananas. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Do world understand your pieces, guys, goals, non binary pals. 11 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to banana as. 12 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I am Kurt Brown Older, Hi Banana boy number two 13 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Scotti Landis. Thank you to our new ban animals, our 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: open animals, all ban animals for listening to the silliest 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: little podcast there ever was. 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: CURTI b how you feeling, buddy. 17 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: Boy, I'm feeling great because I just want to remind 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: everybody out there we got our charity one k Downhill 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: non race Splitty in the city July twenty ninth in 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, So come. All money goes to the LA 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: Food Bank and ends with a live podcast at the 22 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Lesion Theater. True, of course, if you're in Raleigh or Atlanta, 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: come see us in the late September. 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: We'll be there. 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: We'll be there. 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna have great shows. I can't wait first shows 27 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: in the South. It's gonna be wonderful experience. It's been 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: too long, honestly, it's been too No. 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see what happens. Maybe we will go down 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: there again. We'll just have to see. 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: We will. 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm already get into it here it is. 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: Our guest today is a comedian an actor. Her podcast 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Ghost It is about to become exactly Right's newest podcast 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: when Scotty and I will be on it very soon. 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: So props. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: Welcome the wonderful ros Hernandez. 38 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 4: Yes, Hi, how are you guys? 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: We're so good? How are you? 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm so good. 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 5: This is the kind of news I always tell people, like, 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 5: don't come to me for anything important in the news, 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 5: Like when there's you know, some lady married a ghost 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: of an old pirate, Like that's when I'm like, I 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 5: know that. 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: Like come to me for that. So I love this. 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having me. 48 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: I think we did one of our early shows. We 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: did do the woman who married a ghost. There's multiple 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: women who marry ghosts. There's like we've gotten a lot 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: of those stories across the ears. Have you have you 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: covered any of those on ghosted. 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know love, love is love, you know. 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: I want to celebrate all kinds of relationships. 55 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Cupal, non corporeal. 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't matter, you know, you do you you 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: know it's pride, you know. We we just got out 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 5: of Pride Month, and I say, celebrate whatever you're into, 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: you know, if you if you're into people that have 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 5: been dead for three hundred years. But if as long 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 5: as it's the spirit. I don't know if you know, 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 5: you know, the corpse, I don't know about that, but 63 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: you know, the spirit, the essence of somebody from from 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 5: the past. 65 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 4: It sounds great. Yeah, it's great. 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: True. 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: Where do they have to be you know? 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: They do always end bad, which I think is. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: They always get cheated on or they always get divorced 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: because something didn't work out, and I think that they 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: just go I haven't been in the news in four months, 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: so I better have something going on with my ghost marriage. 75 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: But it's always a pirate and it's like and it's 76 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: such a whirlwind affair and the best lover they've ever 77 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: had and all these things, and then it's like he 78 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: cheated on me, and I'm out the door. 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: And the British newspapers will not stop picking it up. 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: They're always from being. 81 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: Oh they love it. 82 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 5: But you know, and I don't want to like blame 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: these people that marry these ghosts, but of course shouldn't 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 5: they shouldn't they have seen right through them. 85 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: That's right. 86 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: Also, you would think the fact that they get divorced 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: is the is like, I think that's ten times crazier 88 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: than marrying a ghost. 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 4: That's see. 90 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: I think all the time about being a lawyer, and 91 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: that's the specific kind of attorney I would like, the 92 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 5: ghost divorce attorney. 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get it. 94 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, you get a Ouiji board, you take it into 95 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 5: the courtroom. 96 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: I love it, just you pushing it over to no one, 97 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Yes all the time, Yes, you're on. 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: Exactly. The board doesn't lie. 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: You just slowly spelled divorce and you wish it wasn't 100 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: so many letters. You're like, it's gonna get there, It's 101 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna get there. Well, that's so. 102 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever actually done a wija board. 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: I think we happen. We recently got it in like 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: a a gift competition. 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: Really yeah, competition, what do you mean? 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: My buddy Derek Brown runs this awesome thing called a 107 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: dice party, which is like a party, there's dice. They 108 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: go around the circle and anytime you get there's like 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: three separate rounds. Everybody brings their own gift and then 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: puts it in the center, and then there's three separate rounds, 111 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: and if you roll doubles, you get to steal anybody 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: else's gift, so you can. You end up essentially like 113 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: some people end up with like eight gifts and some 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: people end up with nothing. And Lauren had a good 115 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: night one night and ended up with like eight gifts 116 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: and one of them was a bunch of weed and 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: a wija board, and so we still haven't opened the 118 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: wija board yet. 119 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 5: So you know, they have a bad reputation. I think 120 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 5: it's just bad press. They need a new publicist. And 121 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: I've honestly been trying to be the publicist for Reeki Boys, 122 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 5: because it's. 123 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 3: Just the lawyer. 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: You're trying to be a publicist exactly. 125 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: I'm speaking up for the debt and I just think 126 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: that they need a rebranding because here's what my theory 127 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: has always been, that people like what could go wrong? 128 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 5: You put it next to Candyland and Monopoly and like 129 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: this is the one toy at Toys r US where 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 5: you can actually talk to possibly demons. So yeah, it 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: goes wrong. I think that people just start playing with 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 5: it and don't know what they're doing, and I don't know. 133 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 5: I hear a lot of stories that kind of convinced 134 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 5: me that some weird stuff has happened. But also I 135 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: think a lot of it is just like fun and 136 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: like people moving it whatever. 137 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: But who knows. 138 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 5: It's like you're kind of opening It's like you're going 139 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 5: into a chat room and whoever. It's just like the Internet. 140 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: You can meet the best person you've ever met, you 141 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: could meet some weird person. So you know, people aren't 142 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: safe with it, and a lot of people had scary 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 5: experiences as a kid. And then like the Exor system, 144 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 5: it just has bad press. So I really want to 145 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 5: help the Ouiji board community and say give it another shot, 146 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: you know. 147 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just time for an update too. Like 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: I think that there should be a new thing. Ouigi 149 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: feels very analog, it feels very old. It feels like 150 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: we do need somebody just needs to invent not only 151 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: a new way of communicating with the other side that 152 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: we all learn to love, but also a movie franchise 153 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: or something along those lines that you go. 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: Just feels tired. A rom com. 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: With it again with a dead with a ghost. 156 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: It's like you got a. 157 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: Communication, Yeah you got hail. 158 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, Kurt, bring that Ouiji board, crack it open. 159 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: We'll go to a bar and sit outside, and we'll 160 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: do it in a public space so it doesn't open, 161 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, a rift to the other side in your 162 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: own home where your children eat clay. 163 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: And I would like that. Do you guys want to 164 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: hear about this Harvard professor? 165 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: Sure it is. 166 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: This was sent in by Valerie Villisana Pauling. Thank you, Valerie. 167 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Cool Instagram. If you want to send us a news 168 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: go to follow our Instagram at the Bananas Podcast. 169 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: I've heard of that. 170 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: And this is on the Washington Times. 171 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: That's sort of real. 172 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's not the Washington Post and it's not 173 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: the New York Times. 174 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: In one direction. Yeah, that's right. 175 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: It's a couple of words put together sounds official. 176 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: Here we go. 177 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: Harvard professor who researches honesty accused of falsifying data. I 178 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: love this so much. As written by Matt Delaney. Matt 179 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: Delaney best. 180 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: In the biz, really good at writing. 181 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: An award winning Harvard professor who studies honesty has been 182 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: placed on leave after being accused of using fraudulent data 183 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: in her research. Francesca Gino, I mean, I mean it's 184 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: so crazy Harvard, Like, to become a professor at Harvard 185 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: is so difficult, then to win awards, and then also 186 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: to I mean this, Honestly, she's studying honesty because she 187 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: loves to lie. 188 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: But that's right. 189 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Francesca Gino, a behavioral science professor at the Harvard Business School, 190 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: was accused of fabricating data on four different research papers 191 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: that spend more than a decade, according to a report 192 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: in the Chronicle of Higher Education. The allegations arose after 193 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: a twenty twelve paper Miss Gino co authored for the 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, one of America's 195 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: most prestigic prestigious academic journals, was attracted by the journal 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: for falsifying results. That's fascinating that it took them eleven 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: years to figure it out. 198 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 3: Oh, you admit it. 199 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: The faulty paper, according to a report in Britain's Guardian newspaper, 200 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: found that people who signed quote truthfulness declarations at the 201 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: top of tax and insurance forms were more honest than 202 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: those who signed them at the bottom. Harvard provided a 203 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: fourteen page memity from Max Bosserman, who's also a professor 204 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: at Harvard Business School, that laid out evidence of fraudulent 205 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: data in the studies database. Mister Basaman design denied involvement 206 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: in any academic frauder database, taking three professors at other 207 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: university's accused mus Genos of history of fibbing about her 208 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: research on their. 209 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: Own blog unbelievable. 210 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 2: Urie Simonson from the university Ramon Lull and Barcelona Leaf 211 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: d that just. 212 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah Leaf. 213 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. In In the fall of twenty twenty one, we 214 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: shared our concerns with Harvard Business School. The academics wrote 215 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: on their blog data Colada is that supposed to be 216 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: a Penia Klada reference data a colada. 217 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 4: If you like that a class you like. 218 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Lying in research term papers, it's good. 219 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: Specifically, we wrote a report about four studies for which 220 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: we had accumulated the strongest evidence of fraud. We believe 221 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: that many more Geno authored papers contain fake data. 222 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: But why like that's okay? 223 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: So you can become a lesson, Like you can become 224 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: part of the lesson. You know, yes, they'll learn about 225 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 5: you in in class. 226 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: M M. 227 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: Maybe you made the textbooks. Instead of holding up the textbook, 228 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: you become part. 229 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: Of the textbook. 230 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: Exactly. 231 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Like you do it once, right, Like 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: I almost I can I almost can understand once because 233 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: you get a job at Harvard. There's pressure, there's pressure 234 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: to publish. You're nervous, You're like, I'm gonna lose my 235 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: prestigious job you have you have imposter syndrome, and you're like, 236 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: if I just fudge this a little bit, this seems int. 237 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: Then I can go. 238 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: But then to continually do it, like to never actually 239 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: have a good enough idea or hypothesis or paper. I mean, 240 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what Harvard Business School does. 241 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: I have known either, But isn't this just like the 242 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: people that are like no gay marriage and then always 243 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time get caught having a 244 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: gay relationship right after she knew deep down she was 245 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: a liar and hated that she had lied her way 246 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: into all these things. 247 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 3: So she just kept doing it and exposed. 248 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Herself and at some point there's a come up, and 249 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: she got come up and starn come up. 250 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 5: Ah, yeah, because that is a liar. 251 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: But also like doesn't everybody lie. 252 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: It's like a little bit of course all the time. 253 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: I'm sure she talks about fake it till you make it. 254 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: You know, maybe that's sort of what she was doing 255 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 5: a little bit. 256 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: She was continually fake. 257 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: She would tell us cap faking, she faked until she 258 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: faking it made it. 259 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: I just recently had to with uh, my daughter is 260 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: six and my son is three, but he's close to four. 261 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: And we went to Mexico last week and we were 262 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: staying at a hotel that had what's called a kid's club, 263 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: where like the kids can go and like hang out 264 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: for like an hour and you can go. They loved it, 265 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: but it was the kid's club was only for four 266 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: years old and up. So we told Gus, like, when 267 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: you're in Mexico, you're gonna be four. And Olive was like, 268 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: so we're gonna lie. And we're like, well, you know, 269 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: if he's not four, he can't really go to kids club. 270 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: She's like, so we're lying. So then she went to 271 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: school the next day and was like, we're going to 272 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: Mexico and we're lying. We're lying to everybody, and I 273 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: was like, okay, okay, we got to stop this. So 274 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,119 Speaker 2: then we lied to her and we told her. 275 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: Who cares good? 276 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: We told her no, there's a time difference in Mexico 277 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: and it's just four months ahead there. 278 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: And so he, oh, Kurt, you do I have a 279 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: follow up story for you. I'm just going to segue 280 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: right into this because you teed it up so well. 281 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: This was from brass Julia. Thank you brass Julia for 282 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: sending this. 283 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: In South Korean's become younger under a new age counting law, 284 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: All South Koreans have become a year or two younger. 285 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: What thanks to a new law that aligns the nation's 286 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: two traditional age counting methods with international standards. 287 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: WHOA, this is great. 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: What were they counting before? Were you zero? 289 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: Yes? Exactly? So there was a. 290 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: New baby like negative two? Now. 291 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: This was in BBC dot Com, written by the great 292 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: some say the best who's ever done it? 293 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: You? 294 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: Nakou, she or he or they are really good at this. 295 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: The law scraps one traditional system that was deemed South 296 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: Koreans are one year old at birth because they count 297 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: the time in the womb. Another system they use counted 298 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: everyone as aging a year every first day of January 299 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: instead of their birthday. So every New Year's Day they 300 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: aged a year. 301 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, everybody had a birthday on the same day 302 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: in South Korea? 303 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Correct, which is fun? I mean that's kind of fun. 304 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah my day, No, it's my day. 305 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. 306 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: Fist fight, fist fight, fist fight, fist fight, fist fight, 307 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: fist fight. 308 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: Would you imagine por like TGI Fridays there, like all 309 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: the desserts they'd have to give out that day, all 310 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: the clapping those poor servers would have to do. 311 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, clapping for themselves too. 312 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: Does anyone remember the Tji Friday's Birthday song? Okay, great 313 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: me neither, Let's go oh. 314 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: This law d So the switch to age counting based 315 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: on your actual birthday took effect last Wednesday. This is 316 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: an up to date story too. This is a June 317 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three story. President Yun Suk yule A push 318 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: strongly for the change when he ran for office last year. 319 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: The traditional age counting method created quote unnecessary social and 320 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 1: economic costs. 321 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: Wow, kind of makes sense. Yeah, are you fourteen? Are 322 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: you sixteen? 323 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: Or are you fifteen and in Olive's case, twenty four 324 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: years old. I'm glad going back to that story, I 325 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: am glad that they loved the kids club or whatever 326 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: so that you two got some to Margarita by the 327 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: pool time. 328 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was amazing how much they loved it. 329 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: What did they do with the kids. 330 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: That every hour was like a different thing. So it'd 331 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: be like ten am, make a turtle and they would 332 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: make it a lot of like an old plastic bottle, and 333 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: then like eleven am, it's the floor is lava, and 334 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: then they would play the floor is lava at eleven am, 335 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, like that sort of thing. 336 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 5: I was thinking. I remember I stayed at a resort 337 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: one time. I had a friend that his parents had 338 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 5: a lot of money, and he invited me to go 339 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: with him growing up to some resort. 340 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 4: It was great, and. 341 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: They had this resort had like a kid's club, but 342 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 5: it was like a club. It was like four kids 343 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 5: and there was like a DJ and stuff. I mean, 344 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: maybe not children children, I mean we were probably like. 345 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: Three teens, still young. 346 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was thinking maybe that was what they 347 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 5: were doing, like for toddlers or for you know, four 348 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 5: year olds. A club with little bottle service, but it's 349 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 5: milk or somethra bottles. 350 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: I remember in Bayhead, New Jersey, there was a place 351 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: called the Surf Club, and the Surf Club on Wednesdays 352 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: in the summer would have have a in all ages, 353 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: like I think it was teen. It was like a 354 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: teen dance night, fourteen to eighteen, and it was you 355 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: felt like everybody would get in there and drink some 356 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: Jolt cola and fucking just dance to mighty muddy bosstones 357 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 2: and smoked cigarettes outside on the beach. It was like 358 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: it was like fifteen year old of heaven. It was amazing. 359 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, ours were always in church basements, which makes it 360 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: that much weirder, and you're just your young, pre pubescent 361 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: horniness just right underneath, where two days later you're like, 362 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for freaking everybody that was there. Very 363 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: fun though also very fun. So here's how some of 364 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: those age counting methods created unnecessary costs. For instance, disputes 365 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: have arisen over insurance payouts and determining eligibility for government 366 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: assistance programs. Wow, which makes sense. Previously, the most widely 367 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: used calculation method in Korea was the centuries old Korean 368 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: age system in which a person turns one at birth 369 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: and gains one year on January first. So if you're 370 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: born December thirty first, you're two the next day. WHOA, Okay, 371 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: that doesn't feel fair. It's like, yeah, you're five and 372 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: you're not reading. You're like, I'm three. It's hard for me. 373 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: A separate counting age system that was also traditionally used 374 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: in the country considers a person zero at birth but 375 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: adds a year on January timeout timeout. 376 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: South Korea is not that big. How are they have 377 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 2: multiple ways of counting people's area. It's like it's like 378 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: the size of New Jersey or something. Right, So it's 379 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: like it's like if North Jersey was like everybody's zero, 380 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: and then Central Jersey's like everybody's one, and like, what 381 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: is happening? That's crazy that it was so varied. 382 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: I agree, and also you yes, you just feel like, 383 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's an old traditional thing versus 384 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: South Grade. To me, I've never been. But when I 385 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: do think of them, I think of them as very innovative. 386 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: I think of like lots of new tech, and I'm like, 387 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: this is a future leaning country and city, and yet 388 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's just my impression of them. 389 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: And apparently up until about last Wednesday they were weird 390 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: about age. 391 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: So what that for? 392 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: The last one means, which is counting age system is 393 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: for example, as of June twenty eighth, twenty twenty three, 394 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: so really tomorrow, a person born on June twenty ninth, 395 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Okay, so somebody we're in two 396 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: thousand and three is nineteen under the international system, twenty 397 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: under the counting age system, and twenty one under the 398 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: Korean age system. 399 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: Wowk pretty interesting. But also to yeah, you could be 400 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: whatever age you want. 401 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean in LA this would crush by the way 402 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: at people that are but animals list in LA are like, 403 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: let's do it because I could be thirty eight again 404 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. 405 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: But what happens when you go to America? How old 406 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 4: are you? 407 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, now it'll be on birthdate starting. So they're using 408 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: the international system now. Three and four South Koreans were 409 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: in favor of this standardization, according to a poll by 410 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: hand Cook Research. 411 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: God they're good. 412 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: Oh, hand Cook's the best. 413 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: Oh I don't need a meal without consulting with them first. 414 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: There's a subconscious layer of agism in people's behavior. This 415 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: is evident even though a complex language system based on age. 416 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: I hope the abolition of Korean age system and the 417 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: adaptation of the International standard gets rid of old relics 418 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: of the past. 419 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 3: Now that sounds kind of fucked up. Actually yeah, but 420 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 3: Japan also had something similar and they dropped it and 421 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: adopted the International standard in nineteen fifty, while North Korea 422 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: actually dropped it in the nineteen eighties. What so, that's it? 423 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, now South Korea, it's the year you're born, 424 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: you're zero years old, and then your birthday is on 425 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: that birthday, not January first, So great job, South Korea. 426 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to the team. 427 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome, Welcome to time. 428 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 3: Glad to Welcome to time. 429 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: Maybe that's the title welcome to time. 430 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: Sure, I love that though, but also that's it must 431 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: have been so confusing. And then the photo on BBC 432 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: was a woman holding like a whiteboard that said she 433 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: was thirty three but now she's thirty one. 434 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: Okay, good, So Roz. 435 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: Are you a big Are you a big birthday person? 436 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: Or no? 437 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: Not at all? 438 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: Astrology neither, I don't I just like I don't know. 439 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 5: Birthdays aren't that important? To me, which I forget that 440 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: they are for other people. So sometimes I'm I have 441 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 5: this mindset like it doesn't matter for me, so it 442 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: doesn't matter for them. 443 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: But some adults I know. 444 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: Seemed to really think their birthday is a big fucking deal. 445 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 5: And I can't tell you how many times I've not 446 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: gone to a birthday party and heard about it, like 447 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 5: you missed my big day. I was turning twenty six. 448 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: Like what is that stage? 449 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what? 450 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm not really that into it, and then 451 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: like astrology, like I don't, I don't know. I think 452 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: it's fun to hear about, but I don't h I 453 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 5: don't really know much about it. 454 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: I liked it you chose twenty six too, because twenty six, 455 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: I do. I remember twenty six being the first birthday 456 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: that no thing, There was no thing to look forward 457 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: to anymore. Like at twenty five you could rent a 458 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: car without like a like someone who like a cheaper car, 459 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: and that was the last thing, and then twenty six 460 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: was just like, well, now you're just getting older, so yeah, 461 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: there is no thing you bestowed upon you as a 462 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: twenty six year old. 463 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: I used to be very against birthdays for adults I 464 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: just thought it was lame and there was like look 465 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: at me behavior. But then the world is so shitty 466 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: that now, if somebody really wants to celebrate their birthday, 467 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: I will very. 468 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 3: Much get into their birthday. 469 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: But I don't like when people are like, it's my 470 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: birthday week, and if you tell me it's your birthday month, 471 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm deleting you from my phone. 472 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: Oh my life, yes, a month as an adult. 473 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 5: Come, I know, and you know, I used to like 474 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 5: host really touristy drag shows and I've worked in LA 475 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: and a lot of touristy kind of places where it's 476 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: like it's but it's her birthday today, and it's like, bitch, 477 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 5: is everyone's birthday here? Like every day is everyone's birthday? 478 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 5: And I think that kind of ruined it for me. 479 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: It kind of took away the excitement to me. 480 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, the comedy club version of that is bachelorette parties 481 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: exactly where I'm just like, I don't care, I do 482 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: not care. You do not have any special all special things. Okay, 483 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: I'll send us into a little break here. Jesus, buddy boy, 484 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: this is just for you, Scottie. Oh good ras. 485 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere without ros weird lock arm and 486 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: walking into the future. 487 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: New records set for fastest trip through entirety of New 488 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: York City subway. 489 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: Oh that's fun. I would be curious about this. All right, 490 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: well we'll check that out with Come back on bananass 491 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: from all the way around the ba. 492 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: Bana. 493 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: We are back, folks. Goott you got any shout outs? Yeah? 494 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: I have three quick shout outs and they're all excellent. 495 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: Natalie Sinclair wants to shout herself out. She they graduated 496 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: from high school and is heading to Lewis and Clark 497 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: College in Portland to study music and probably environmental science. 498 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: Congratuate what gen z person doesn't care about environmental science? 499 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Please save us all, but congratulations, Natalie. College is fun, 500 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: have fun, enjoy it. It's not like the movies. Just 501 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: make good friends and do everything. Eighty eight Koalas, which 502 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: is a great name for an Instagram, wants to shout 503 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: out her husband, Jason. Jason owns a skate shop in Norfolk, 504 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: Virginia called Cardinal Skate Shop, So bananimals who live in 505 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: the Norfolk, Virginia area, go get a T shirt, go 506 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: buy a skateboard deck or some trucks from Jason at 507 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: Cardinal Skate Shop. Laurel says Jason is her favorite bananamal 508 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: and they both love the podcast. Oh yeah, thanks so 509 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much, and this one is like home 510 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: run potentially Banana the Week material. Lindsey Fredrickson wants to 511 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: shout herself out. Her mom passed away six years ago, 512 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: and Lindsey used the life insurance to start a nonprofit 513 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: called Camp that provides tuition free after school orchestra programming 514 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: for kids on the West Side of Chicago. 515 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 516 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: Now, five years later, Lindsey is officially going to be 517 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: able to work full time as the executive director and 518 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: quit all her other side hustles and gigs. This is 519 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: her full time job now, Camp providing free after school 520 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: orchestra programming to kids on the West Side of Chicago. 521 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's Banana Week, right. 522 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: That is Banana of the Week. Hell yeah, that's Lindsay Fredrickson. 523 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: We're proud of you. 524 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: A way to put others out there and love everybody. 525 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: So that's what I got. 526 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: KURTI b and rate and review us on Apple if 527 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: you've never done it, five stars, come on, come on 528 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: right there at seven thousand reviews. We're like twenty away, 529 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: so give us a review and we will appreciate you. 530 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And of course we are here 531 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: with the absolutely fantastic Ross Hernandez, a host of ghosting 532 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: that is coming out very soon on exactly right. There's 533 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: already some EPs out there, but you're gonna hear it 534 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: on exactly right, baby. 535 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: New addition, they're gonna be a little hotter Roz. Have 536 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: you seen ghosts? 537 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: Ah? Yes, I mean cool. Here's the deal. 538 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: I'm pretty skeptical of all of this stuff, so even 539 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 5: my own experiences, I'm kind of like, are you just crazy? 540 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think I've seen I think. 541 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: I've seen ghosts. But yeah, I'm real. I'm real into it. 542 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: I'm really into talking about it, and I'm certainly interested 543 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: in hearing everybody else's stories. 544 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 545 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: It's like an interesting thing where there they sometimes people 546 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: try to discredit it by saying, hey, in houses where 547 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: people report paranormal activity, they've later gone in and proven 548 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: that the carbon monoxide levels were high, and like, maybe 549 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: these raparations. But then I have people in my life, 550 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: including some good friends of Kurt and Mind, who are like, yeah, 551 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: I saw one and they say it so matter of factly, 552 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: and they were skeptical and they're like, I did see one, 553 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: and then you just have to believe them because if 554 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: you don't, then you don't trust your friend. And these 555 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: are people that we love and trust. 556 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think. I think sometimes when you I mean, 557 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: it's sort of like any of this stuff, like you 558 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 5: consider the source or whatever. And sometimes when you hear 559 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: right coming from people that you trust and you know 560 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 5: they're not lying, that's that's like the most convincing stuff. 561 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 5: And the best is when somebody else is there experiencing 562 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: it with you. And I've had a couple of experiences 563 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 5: where I'm like, I don't have any explanation for what 564 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 5: that was. I kind of feel like I have to 565 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: call it that was a ghost. 566 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know. 567 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 5: I love just even just talking about it, and to me, 568 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 5: like if things, if you do find out that there's 569 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 5: some kind kind of logical explanation, sure, I don't know 570 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: why you both couldn't be true. I even entertained like 571 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 5: if somebody's on mushrooms and they think they see something like, 572 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 5: I don't see why that wouldn't also be true that 573 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 5: the veil is more thin to the other side when 574 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 5: you put your walls down. You know, I don't know 575 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: why not or people have sleep paralysis. I'm like, yeah, 576 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 5: it could be a scientific thing, but it could also 577 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 5: be when the demons come in to say hello, I 578 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 5: don't know, and that could be your future husband, that demon. 579 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 5: So don't be too scared. 580 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: You could divorce you in two to three years when 581 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: he really gets to know you as a real person. 582 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: I was Kurt and I went to our friend Christen's 583 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: wedding at the Stanley Hotel at East's Park, a very 584 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: haunt iconic where Stephen King and his wife Tabitha stayed, 585 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: and he got so freaked out because they were closing 586 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: up for the winter that he wrote The Shining Later 587 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: about that hotel. And you know, the whole time we're there, 588 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: we're just goofing off, Like Kurt and I were having fun, 589 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: and all our friends from New York and la are there. 590 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: It's a great time. 591 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: But I was staying next to the famous room and 592 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: then we ended up moving to another wing. But there 593 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: are ghost tours happening in the lobby every couple hours 594 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: the entire time you're there, and I didn't see anything, 595 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: and I met Kurt. 596 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: Did I talk about this on the pod before? I 597 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: can't remember. 598 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: It's only something I want you to talk about on 599 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 5: my pod. 600 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: We save it to hear the rest of the tea 601 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: and then I looked down covered in blood. For the 602 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: rest of the story, we're going to have to listen 603 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: to us on Ghosted. The blood part may or may 604 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: not be true. We'll have to find out. 605 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 5: Way did you ride a little tricycle through the hallway? 606 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 5: Is that how you got to your room? 607 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: No? 608 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: But so I grew up in Maryland, in Baldimore County, Maryland, 609 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: and their Black Aggie, which is like a very famous 610 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: sort of ghost gravestone thing. There was always a part 611 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: of my life growing up. But where I grew up 612 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: there was this story about for Melinda, which I'm actually 613 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: turning into something now, like a TV thing now, And 614 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: that was so like growing up. There were two major 615 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: ghost stories in my hometown. And then when the Blair 616 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: Witch Project came out, it showed in the Charles Theater first, 617 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: like it showed in Baltimore before anywhere else in the country, 618 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: and so we all thought that that was real. Like 619 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: I was sixteen and my friend Jen ran out of 620 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the theater and called her dad, who was a lawyer, 621 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: and it's like, kids are missing in Burkettsville. We have 622 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 1: to like alert your powerful friends. 623 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: Woh my god. 624 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 5: I remember when that came out. I had like a 625 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 5: babysitter who was a teenager and she was like, I 626 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: saw it and it was real and I couldn't sleep. 627 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 5: And my you know, my male friends, they were all 628 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 5: hugging each other at night time. They couldn't sleep alone. 629 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, I remember, most we know where 630 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: that house is. 631 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: It was out in My friend lived off of this 632 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: row called Liberty Road, and he's like, no, that house 633 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: is near here. 634 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 3: And then a bunch of. 635 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: Dudes when we were all seniors, we walked out in 636 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: the woods with probably one flashlight and we found the house, 637 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: the real house, and there were still handprints on the 638 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: walls from the art department, making it scary. Of all 639 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: the kids that were trapped in the house. And all 640 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: these tough guys, all the guys in my high school 641 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: that just loved getting in fist fights, all the guys 642 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: that just couldn't wait to beat up the rival schools, 643 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't even step foot on the porch. So I was like, 644 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, young and arrogant and trying to make a 645 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: name for myself as a sixteen year old or whatever. 646 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: So I go up on the porch and I go 647 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: up to the door, and I was so terrified, Like 648 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: I could feel the hair standing up on my neck, 649 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: my arms. I was like fucking scared. And they were like, 650 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: go in, Scottie, And my first thought was I'm gonna 651 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: walk in and there's gonna be like a redneck family 652 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: in here that grabs me and beats me up and 653 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: kills me. And like I went up to the door 654 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: and I was the only one that would even go 655 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: up there because we all really were like this is 656 00:33:59,480 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: the place. 657 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's a horror movies. It's just like 658 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 5: with Luigi Board. It's like people people see these things 659 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 5: in horror movies and they think that they really have 660 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 5: that power, and I don't know, some people theorize that 661 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 5: that it can actually give the power just thinking that. 662 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. 663 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be on Ghosted, right, It's gonna be 664 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: really pumped on this. 665 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait. 666 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 5: Ever since the movie Mod came out, I mean I 667 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: can't even buy booze for you know, teenagers, because. 668 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: Kids see the movie and they think that I kill them. 669 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: I am so appreciative that you like that movie. 670 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: It means the world to me because I that one 671 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: just sticks around and I get sent the memes all 672 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: the time, and I'm like, I love that Sue Anne sticks. 673 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: I remember trying to get people to buy a case 674 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: of beer for me in high school and no one 675 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: would do it. 676 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 5: I just imagine doing that as an adult, like because yeah, 677 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 5: when I was younger, like people, I cannot imagine being 678 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 5: an adult. 679 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: Now. 680 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 5: Never stay away from me, anybody young. 681 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: I'm just scared of teenagers, to be honest. 682 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 5: No, I'm I'm terrified of teenagers. That's absolutely true. 683 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: World you see five teenagers walking down the street, you 684 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 3: cross the street. 685 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 5: I used to live right next to John Marshall High 686 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 5: and in Los Peelis and I would always like hear 687 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 5: the kids like on their skateboards or whatever, and like 688 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: if I would go out there sometimes like uh, you know, 689 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 5: because I used to be a drag queen and I 690 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 5: would like be in drag like going to work, and 691 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 5: I would see the kids and like sometimes they'd be 692 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 5: like is that your girlfriend Tommy or whatever, and I'd 693 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: be like. 694 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 2: Oh, you guys are mean. 695 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: They're absolutely hard, and they're all so much smarter now 696 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 5: than us, like just period as adults, Like they all 697 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 5: know so much more, they have so much more exposure, 698 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 5: there's so much more world worldly and yeah, they care 699 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: about things that none of us cared about, like they're 700 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: actually amazing. 701 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: Oh. 702 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 2: I would always terrify me, especially in New York City 703 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: on the subway, when a gaggle of teenagers would get 704 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: on the subway, to just be like everybody, heads down, 705 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 2: heads down, don't make eye contact. They're wild. They're wild. 706 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: Nice kids eat little cheese. It's just eating little bags 707 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: of cheese. It's all the time. Black jackets, tight jeans. 708 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: It was a great look. It was a better time. 709 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of subway, here's a segue, right, New records set 710 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: for fastest trip through entirety of the New York City subway. 711 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: This was sending. I'm so sorry that I've forgotten who 712 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 2: sent this in. I've had it in my tabs for 713 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: so long, been meaning to do this one, so I apologize, 714 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: but it has erased your name, Gothamist. If this wasn't Gothamist. 715 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: This is written by a lot of people calling the 716 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: b TV the stephen Nesson. Thank you Steven. This is 717 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: from May eighteenth, twenty twenty three. New York City Subway 718 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: has four hundred seventy two stations laid hours across six 719 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five miles of track. 720 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow. 721 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 2: For decades, transit enthusiasts have jockey to set the record 722 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: for the fastest time to travel through the whole system. 723 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: Last month, Kate Jones, and New Yorker now living in Switzerland, 724 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: set a new standard. She completed the hour in What's 725 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: Everybody's guess? 726 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: She wrote, to every single stop, all four hundred and 727 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 3: seventy two. 728 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, over six hundred and sixty five miles. 729 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 3: Oh, exactly, man, that must take a whole a day. 730 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 3: It must take a whole day. 731 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say two days. 732 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: Okay, y'all say thirty hours. 733 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: Twenty two hours, fourteen minutes and ten seconds. Her time 734 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: was certified last week by Guinness World Records. I have 735 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: no idea how I wanted a problem to that would 736 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: be interesting for my brain, but also like something that 737 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 2: would get me physically moving. Jones forty three set over 738 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: the phone. She said she spent months figuring out how 739 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: to hit every station with the fewest repetitions and with 740 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: the fastest transfers, all while trying to avoid delays. Her 741 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: time was slightly longer than that of the previous record holder, 742 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: math threw On, who in twenty sixteen completed the so 743 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: called subway challenge in twenty one hours, twenty eight minutes 744 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: and fourteen seconds. But that was before the MTA opened 745 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: three new Second Avenue subway stations on the Upper east Side. Okay, Jones' 746 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: record setting run wasn't her first attempt. She tried the 747 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: challenge in twenty fourteen and again a year later, but 748 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: after breaking her ankle while rock climbing last August, Jones 749 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: said she wanted to give it another go. As April 750 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 2: drew near. Jones still had two rods, two plates, and 751 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: ten screws in her ankle, but said the race was 752 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: her motivation to run again. Quote, I had lost the 753 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: instinct to run. You know the way stoplight changes and 754 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: you want to run across an intersection? 755 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: Yep, what I know that. I'm thinking about it all 756 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: the time. Wait, wait, what dangerous? 757 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: Don't you know how when a stoplight changes you want 758 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 2: to sprint across. 759 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: The sad oh like when it turns green. 760 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: That's I have no idea. I do not share this 761 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: feeling that she has. 762 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 5: I never especially in La you don't do that. You 763 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 5: have to wait a minute because people are running through 764 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 5: that road. 765 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: She said. When there's a train on the platform, the 766 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: doors are closing, you have to run down the stairs 767 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: and dive onto that. 768 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 3: Yes, that is true. 769 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 2: Jones returned to New York last month for the challenge, 770 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: and her first two attempts didn't work out. She said 771 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: her third attempt was promising, but during her twentieth hour 772 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: she made a blunder when she accidentally got on a 773 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 2: train in the wrong direction. Due to late night track work, 774 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: there was no way she'd be able to make it 775 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: up out a reasonable amount of time. 776 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: She said. 777 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: She was ready to pick it pack it up after that, 778 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 2: but a friend encouraged to try one very last time. 779 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: She waited until the following Monday to try again. The 780 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: transfers worked out, the sprints paid off. She didn't even 781 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: use Omni, She paid with a Metro card. I nailed 782 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: every swipe, so still a New Yorker. 783 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 3: She said. 784 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 2: She set the record on April seventeenth, celebrated with dumplings 785 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 2: and Flushing Queens, and took a plane to Switzerland. Fourteen 786 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: hours later, Life Wow, where the ink on her records 787 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: sort of certificate had dried. A new challenger had entered 788 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 2: the ring. Whoa this is? I had not did not 789 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: anticipate this level of competition. Queen's resident, Daniel Wells twenty nine, 790 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: attempted to beat her time on Wednesday. Wells began his 791 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: journey at one am at the far Rockaway Mott Avenue 792 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: term on the A line, very familiar with that one, 793 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: the same place Jones began hers, and like Jones, he 794 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: planned to finish his root at the end of the 795 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 2: seven line and Flushing blah blah blah bla bla bla 796 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: blah blah. 797 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 798 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 2: He didn't do it. 799 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 4: Is that a train? 800 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: Oh, he must not have done it if she's the 801 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: record holder. 802 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 2: Later, Wells tried to sprint from the Ozone Park Lefforts 803 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: Boulevard station to catch an A train at the Rockway 804 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: Boulevard station, located nearly a mile away, thinking he would 805 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: shave twenty minutes off his time, which I understand why 806 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: he's doing this, but the rush did end up saving 807 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: him his time and after seven hour as well as 808 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 2: it traveled up to the Bronx, back down to Lower Manhattan, 809 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 2: back to the Bronx from Midtown. By that point, he 810 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 2: was slumped on the floor of a four train car, 811 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: leaning against a pole while taking deep breaths and careful 812 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: SIPs from a small pole in spring bottle, which is 813 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: the only water he brought. He'd only hit about a 814 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: quarter of the subway SYSM at that point. He ended 815 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: up completing the run in twenty three hours, twenty seven 816 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: minutes and nine seconds. It's a huge loser, lagging Jones 817 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: record by more than an hour. He said, I'm not 818 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: going to try it more than once. He doesn't have 819 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 2: enough vacation hour saved up for multiple events. This article 820 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: just keeps going on. 821 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: But have it. Yeah, let her have it. 822 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: She worked hard to get it, and then you try 823 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: right away, like, let it soak in a little bit, 824 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: let the press cover it before you try to break 825 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: the record. 826 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, like him. I don't know him, but I just 827 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 4: feel like he was like, no, I want to beat that. 828 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 2: You can't even have it for a moment. 829 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 5: Joan like it kind of feels like a villain thing 830 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 5: that like he like kind of messed up a little bit, 831 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 5: like you know, it's very that character like gets there. 832 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if somebody throws marbles and he slips 833 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 5: on him when as he's running through the subway. 834 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: That was always that. There was a stop on the 835 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: A train where if you're going to rock Away where 836 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: I used to have a bungalow with some surfers, ninety 837 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: first Street, there's a stop in the middle. It's called 838 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: Broad Channel, and it's in the middle of a of 839 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: a peninsula in the middle of Jamaica Bay, and so 840 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: you're surrounded really by just nature. If you like peek 841 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: your head around either side, you're in the middle of 842 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 2: a giant bay and there's just like birds in it 843 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: and wildlife around you. And the train would and you 844 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: could always see the S train, the shuttle train that 845 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: you needed to take, so you would and I would 846 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 2: always go out late at night and then sleep there 847 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: and then wake up and surf in the morning. And 848 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: so it would always be like one in the morning 849 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: getting off there, and it would be freezing cold, and 850 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 2: you're just the elements. You're just so exposed. There's nowhere 851 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 2: to get warm, and then you would just watch that 852 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: s train just sit there for sometimes usually like twenty 853 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 2: five minutes before it would just turn its lights on 854 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: and slowly roll up and take you the one stop 855 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: to ninety first Street. It was it would like it 856 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 2: would it would hurt so much. 857 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: And I always heard that there was a subway dug 858 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: built ready to rumble between Grand Central Station and LaGuardia 859 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: Airport that would get you there god ten minutes, but 860 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: that the Taxi Commission is so powerful they paid like 861 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: local politicians to never open it, but that there was 862 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: plans for basically you could go to Grand Central Station 863 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: and just get right to the airport, and they just 864 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: were like no, like taxi people were too powerful and 865 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: paid too much money to show down. 866 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: That's what happened in La. They had a they have 867 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: a subway that stops one mile from the airport, and 868 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: it was because of the taxi the taxi whatever companies 869 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: like just like paid an enormous amount of money to 870 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 2: make sure that the train stopped one mile from Lax 871 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: and so you have to take a taxi that final mile, 872 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: which is like, this is why this city is. 873 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 3: The way it is terrible. I hate to hear it. 874 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 3: I had a buddy when I was living in Brooklyn, Ross, 875 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 3: did you ever live in New York? No? 876 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 4: I honestly, I try to avoid New York as much 877 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 4: as I can. I'm just like, too chill. I'm like, 878 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 4: I'm very like, I. 879 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 5: Don't like hustle and bustle every time I go to 880 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 5: New York. I love it, but sure, oh and I 881 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,280 Speaker 5: love it in a documentary. 882 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: I love it in a movie when it's a character 883 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 2: run to itself exactly. 884 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 4: But I don't I to get me there. It takes 885 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 4: a lot. 886 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: Actually, what type curtain? I were hanging out in Prospect 887 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: Park and they were building this new glass condo that 888 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: was just such an eye sore, just stuck out like 889 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 3: it was all beautiful old New York buildings near Flatbush, 890 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, that building's fucking terrible. 891 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: Can you believe they're doing that. Kurt's like, hey man, 892 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: that's what New York does. It just keeps changing and evolving. 893 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: You just got to get used to it. And I 894 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you're right now, I just feel so dumb, 895 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. And that's the whole thing with 896 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: that city, is it? Just digests itself and grows constantly, constantly. 897 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: But I had a buddy, my roommate, and his then 898 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: girlfriend now wife moved in with us, and the three 899 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: of us were living together. It was really fun time. 900 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: But one night she was like, it's going to be 901 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: a girl's night. I'm going out with some girls from work, 902 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: So you nerds can do whatever you want. So we 903 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: went out and had a good time. We get back 904 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: and she had done the famous thing that Kurt and 905 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: I've done a million times on the subway where we 906 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: had a few too many and you get on that 907 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: subway line back home and you get a little bit comfortable, 908 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: and then you fall asleep and miss your subway stop 909 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: by sometimes twenty five stops, you know, we you know, 910 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: New York apartments aren't that big. 911 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 3: So I hear the phone ring at like or his 912 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 3: phone ring at like three or four am, and he's like, 913 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: uh huh, what where are you? Where? What where are you? 914 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: And then I get up because I'm a little concerned. 915 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: She's my friend too, And he comes out and we're 916 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: standing there. I'm like, where's she? And he goes She 917 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: just yelled at me, I don't know where I am 918 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: what signs are around you? And she had gotten on 919 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: a yellow line when we lived on the orange line, 920 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: and nothing connects to the yellow line unless you're like 921 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: in she went in the furthest direction, worst train, so 922 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: he had to get in his car that got he 923 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: at a car and go get her at like four am. 924 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: But it's so funny to get off a subway and 925 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: be like, well, I don't know where the fuck I am. 926 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: This is impossible. 927 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 4: I had one time. 928 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 5: This is not at all the same, but it's kind 929 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 5: of an LA equivalent. One time I had to get 930 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 5: a rental car and then I went to the Westfield 931 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 5: Century City Mall in Century City, which has the biggest 932 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 5: parking structure ever, insane, and I forgot what my car 933 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 5: looked like that I rented. Oh my god, and I 934 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 5: forgot where I parked. I just like got out of 935 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 5: my car and went into the mall and I came 936 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 5: back and I was like, I don't know what my 937 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 5: car looks like. It didn't have a little beep thing 938 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 5: on the keychain, and I spent six hours trying to 939 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 5: find my car. 940 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: How did you find it? Eventually? 941 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 5: Well, I called a friend to come pick me up 942 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 5: and we drove around the entire thing and I literally 943 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 5: just I don't even remember. This was like over ten 944 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 5: years ago, but that was my. 945 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 3: Oh my god, but that is so real, and it's 946 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 3: two small mistakes, right, It's the only mistake is you 947 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: didn't really pay attention what floor you were on. 948 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: And then also you didn't just go like it is 949 00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: a white Honda Civic like that is so easy done, man, 950 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: carror movie. 951 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: I had just take a photo. 952 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I do that. 953 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 5: I certainly learned my lesson, but I I have like 954 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 5: some kind of disease where I can't remember what cars 955 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 5: look like like I don't. My brain does not digest 956 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 5: cars like I don't. It just doesn't work that way. Yeah, 957 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 5: how I get in a message. 958 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: I learned because I was a big partyer in my 959 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: twenties that whenever I was in a new city and 960 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: had either rental car, hotel room and thank god for smartphones, 961 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: I take a picture of my car. I take a 962 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: picture of my hotel door with the number on it, 963 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: and so like when I eventually am browning out, I 964 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 1: look at it, I'm like I'm on the sixteenth floor. 965 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh two, got it? And then but I've done that 966 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: for years because of what you're saying. I've gotten into 967 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: hotels after like weddings and been like is this the 968 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: right hotel? What floor am I supposed to be going to? 969 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 1: It's a crazy feeling. And then when you go to 970 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: the front desk and you're like, hey, I lost my 971 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: key and you give me an idea, and they're like, 972 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: you're in the wrong hotel, man, Like, you're not in 973 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: this Hilton. 974 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 3: Is there another Hilton in town? Because I'm pretty sure 975 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 3: it was a Hilton? No, there is it. 976 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 5: I lock myself out all the time, and I have 977 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 5: a landlord that lives on property that I've had to 978 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 5: call so many times, and it's it's always because I'm 979 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 5: wearing some kind of crazy outfit for like a Halloween 980 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 5: party or like whatever it is, and I didn't bring 981 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 5: like a purse or my normal stuff, and so I 982 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 5: just don't bring my key. Or it's always because someone's 983 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 5: coming to pick me up, like a lift or whatever, 984 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 5: and it's because I'm going to something where there's not 985 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 5: good parking, and so then as soon as I leave, 986 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 5: I remember that I didn't bring my key and I 987 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 5: have to call my landlord and then I'm over here 988 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 5: in like some a fucking two tu with a head 989 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 5: you know, dress like I don't head piece, you know, 990 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's embarrassing. 991 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,399 Speaker 1: If you make a copy of your key, your house key, 992 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: and you get one of those meg netick little keyholder things, 993 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: you can walk and put it underneath the closest blue mailbox, 994 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: like the public mailbox thing. 995 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 3: I used to do that in Brooklyn. 996 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: That was always because I would leave my key, but 997 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: you basically hide your higher key so far away from 998 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: your apartment nobody could ever figure out which one was yours. 999 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: But you can always go to that mailbox and reach 1000 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: underneath and get your spare and go in. Just just 1001 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: a friendly tip, thank you. 1002 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 5: I figured something else which I won't tell these people listening, 1003 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 5: just in case. 1004 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: Yes freaks, Yeah, but I have one send us home. 1005 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: This one's a fun one because it's a little little 1006 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: ros ghosted adjacent, but also kind of a call to 1007 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: our listeners to go out and go to this place 1008 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: and send us some picks. 1009 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 3: This is from Emily. 1010 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: Louise Glazer galar New, Emily Louise Glazer galler New. 1011 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 3: That's fortunate name it. 1012 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: I hope you don't have to ever sign checks. This 1013 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: was on CNN, written by the best in the Beeswax, 1014 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: Jeff ban Talk he is damn good jb. This Illinois 1015 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: funeral home has a miniature golf course. Underneath what I 1016 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: mean underneath, I love you love miniature golf. 1017 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 2: I do. 1018 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 4: I love it so much. I go with my friend 1019 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 4: all the time. And we like to act like because 1020 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 4: we don't know anything. 1021 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 5: About real golf, so we're all's just like Yanna hit 1022 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 5: a couple of hole, like we try to make it 1023 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 5: sound holy birds. Yeah, we're gonna go. We're gonna go 1024 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 5: out to the green or whatever. And it's literally just 1025 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 5: like us and a bunch of children. 1026 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 4: There's a place in Sherman Oaks. 1027 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 3: It's great, Sherman Oaks Castle. Oh my god, the. 1028 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 5: Like scenic design of this place is gorgeous. I think 1029 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 5: there's there's three courses. They have like a Bates motel 1030 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 5: they have. They have literally like everything you can imagine. 1031 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: It's great. 1032 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 3: Oh I want to go. We have to purple turf 1033 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 3: on some Yeah, the La Purple Turfood Art Department got 1034 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 3: out there and made that one extra spec serious. 1035 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: So people love nature golf. Every year, millions of people 1036 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: across the globe put their way around an endless array 1037 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: of obstacles in the pursuit of bragging rights. Few players, however, 1038 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: would describe it as a sport. 1039 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 3: To die for. Oh good writing, Jeff, talk you, Jeff. 1040 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: Yet, at one unique venue in Illinois, death is par 1041 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: for the course. Here it is Jeff is hitting it 1042 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: out of the great Welcome to algram Akers, a macabre 1043 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: mini golf experience buried underneath a operational funeral home. In 1044 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,760 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four, Roger Algrim strolled into the Algrim Family 1045 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: Funeral Services newly constructed building located in the leafy village 1046 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: of Palatine, Pa l a Tyne Peloton. 1047 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 3: Hey, get one for yourself. I've always wanted to. 1048 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,919 Speaker 2: You know, there's been a I can't believe I'm about 1049 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 2: to do this joke. Tine Aerial Border has been under 1050 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 2: a lot. 1051 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 3: Of Okay, Okay, he went for it. He went for it. 1052 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: Such a there's just no s high the Palatine Rally Border. Yeah, 1053 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: controversial hot spot, he went. It's a suburb of Chicago, 1054 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: he has. He explored his new building. He discovered a 1055 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: vast basement some twenty feet below ground with no windows. 1056 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 1: It could serve little purpose for a funeral business, but 1057 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: Algrim soon found a use for the room. Algrim and 1058 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 1: his sole employee mapped out and built a fully fledged 1059 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: nine hole miniature golf course designed to serve his children 1060 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: and the local neighborhood. Within a decade, it had become 1061 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,760 Speaker 1: a major part of the quote community room end quote, 1062 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: which included a full sized shuffle board court, a ping 1063 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: punk table. This is under a funeral home, mind you, 1064 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: a bumper poll table classic, and a foosball table hand 1065 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: built when Algrim was a teenager. Today so this is 1066 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: still fully operational. So again, ban animals. If you live 1067 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: in the Palatine area and you can go golfing here, 1068 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: please send us some photos. Because the course, which is 1069 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: free to play, free of charge to play, and has 1070 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: continuously been developed over its fifty nine year history, leans 1071 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: into its unique setting a cob themed and eerily lit 1072 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: in the absence of natural light. The ghoulish features begin 1073 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: from the outset. Nestled in the sandtrap of the first 1074 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 1: hole is Roger Algram's very own sculpting skull from his 1075 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: mortuary school. So when he learned how to form facial features, 1076 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: he built this skull and you can now put under 1077 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: it on the first hole, there's a moving guillotine. There 1078 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 1: are life size grim reapers. There is a water trap 1079 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: with a miniature mausoleum. There are tiny gravestones so players 1080 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: must avoid. I mean this sounds pretty fucking great to me. 1081 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds really fun. 1082 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's it. We'll we'll wrap it up type. 1083 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, but animals, if you guys go to Algrim's 1084 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: Acres it's called a h L g r I m 1085 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: Acres and go for a golf Ripley's believe it or not. 1086 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: In twenty eleventh, you know it's real and send us 1087 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: some merch. They have merch from T shirts and badger 1088 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: it was to ball shaped urns, so you know we're 1089 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: having fun. 1090 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 3: A fair way to Heaven. 1091 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 5: I want to have my funeral there. That sounds me 1092 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,439 Speaker 5: super fun. I want me I want to become one 1093 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 5: of the. 1094 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 4: Holes I want. 1095 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 5: I just want to be there with my mouth open 1096 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 5: as a dead body. And you have to all of 1097 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 5: my friends and family have to try to hit the 1098 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 5: ball in. 1099 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 2: Everyone's just like yes, but everyone's still tries it with 1100 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 2: her wish. 1101 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 3: Ross would thank you so. 1102 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 2: Much Roz for being on bananas. Plug away, plug away, 1103 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 2: tell us where everyone can find you. 1104 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, well, my podcast Ghosted by Roz Hernandez 1105 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 5: is now going to be unexactly right, which is so 1106 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 5: exciting to me. And basically, I talk to people. I 1107 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 5: talked to interesting people, funny people, famous people. 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