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Speaker 1: Second date update.

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Speaker 2: What are the percentages of how people meet when they

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Speaker 2: come to us?

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Speaker 1: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I'd say like eighty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dating apps.

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Speaker 2: I think a couple of years ago that was up

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Speaker 2: to like ninety. But lately people have been starting to

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Speaker 2: grow tired of that. They're finding new ways to connect,

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Speaker 2: and you hear about more people meeting at run.

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Speaker 1: Clubs and yoga classes.

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Speaker 2: One couple even met at the dentist's office in the

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Speaker 2: lobby when they were both high on nitrous waiting for

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Speaker 2: the rides to take them home.

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Speaker 4: Maybe just your personal story, Yeah, I'm still sexy and

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Speaker 4: worth mentioning.

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Speaker 2: But we don't get a lot of folks on this

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Speaker 2: segment who already knew each other for years before they

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Speaker 2: ever went out on a date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know they'd be comfortable enough to like

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Speaker 3: check in and see what was going on.

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Speaker 2: That's what you think, But we're doing it today with

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Speaker 2: our listener, Jillian. So, Jillian, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hi, thank you for taking a call.

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Speaker 3: I'd so like you got ghosted by someone who is

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Speaker 3: your friend.

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Speaker 1: How that makes it work? How is how long were

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Speaker 1: they were your friend for?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 5: Thomas and I have known each other for almost twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Wait what child? Wait, how how do you guys know

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Speaker 3: each other?

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Speaker 5: So we grew up in the same neighborhood. We were

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Speaker 5: on fourteen together, and our families were super closet, and

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Speaker 5: did we hung out together all the time, you know,

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Speaker 5: the barbecues and all that.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's like really interwoven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Was he your first kiss ever as a kid

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Speaker 1: growing up?

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Speaker 5: No, he did ask me out, like multiple times, like

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Speaker 5: over the years, he'd asked me out, and I said no,

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Speaker 5: not because I don't like him, but just because I

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Speaker 5: thought it might be awkward for our families, you know,

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Speaker 5: like you close, you know, we dated didn't work out.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want to get weird.

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Speaker 1: Families get that close.

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Speaker 2: I had somebody who I thought was my cousin my

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Speaker 2: whole life, and like literally like five ten years ago,

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Speaker 2: our parents were like, that's not your cousin, a good

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Speaker 2: family friend.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, some ma, reason not my cousin. I

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Speaker 1: just love friendies grow up.

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Speaker 3: I mean they feel like blood. They really do. On

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Speaker 3: that one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he was trying for it and you kept

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Speaker 2: shooting him down for years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what changed?

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Speaker 5: Well, I saw him a couple of weeks ago and

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Speaker 5: I picnic my family was hosting. It has been a

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Speaker 5: while since I've seen him, and I'm just gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: He looked really good, Thomas, Okay, and that changed your mind?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like, forget weird, let's just go for this.

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Speaker 1: Got hot, Okay, it's not shallow. You've known each other

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Speaker 1: for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I felt like it was safe. In

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Speaker 5: these days, you find someone that's so safe with totally okay.

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Speaker 4: So wait, how did you guys turn it into a

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Speaker 4: romantic date though?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I hit him up. I hit him up, and I

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Speaker 5: was just like, hey, you want to meet up hang out?

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Speaker 5: And he kind of threaked out a little, you know,

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Speaker 5: he was like, when are you free let me cook

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Speaker 3: He's I waited my whole life.

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Speaker 7: Weird.

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Speaker 2: It's because you rejected him for so long, no wonder.

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Speaker 2: He was like totally caught back by it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I thought he'd be confused that maybe they were

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Speaker 4: just going to hang out as friends. But his response

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Speaker 4: definitely doesn't sound like that.

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Speaker 1: You said the word date, obviously, you like made it clear.

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Speaker 5: I think it was more like in my energy and

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Speaker 5: my tone and that kind of made it like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: let's hang out.

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Speaker 2: The eighteen hard emojis at the end of the text

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Speaker 2: message and the kissing emoji.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the emoji she was using.

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Speaker 2: Oh ye, okay, so that's cool. He wanted to cook

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Speaker 2: for you. How did that go?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: It's great. We had a fabulous meal.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: I did the whole like hanging out in the kitchen

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Speaker 5: watching him cook. It was like a coconut curry cast role.

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Speaker 3: Oh was there any awkwardness?

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Speaker 4: Because sometimes when you turn these friendships into something romantic like,

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Speaker 4: there can be I don't know, just funny moments, you know.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I was amazed at how comfortable it felt.

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Speaker 5: The conversation was really good. We did end up like

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Speaker 5: a little makeout session of.

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Speaker 1: It, so he picked up.

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Speaker 2: It sounds weird to say, but it may be hard

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Speaker 2: to get out of the friends, like when you've been

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Speaker 2: friends for so long.

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Speaker 4: Maybe his mind is just still blown and he hasn't

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Speaker 4: like come to realize that this wasn't a dream.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did that really happen? What happened after the kiss?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I did go home. I was a good girl, okay,

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Speaker 5: but I got a couple of nice texts from him afterwards,

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Speaker 5: you know, like thanking me for coming over. But then

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Speaker 5: I've texted him a few more times with just sort

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Speaker 5: of like some invitations, what are you doing, want to

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Speaker 5: grab a drink, et cetera. And he's been sending back

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Speaker 5: the word busy. Oh, just the word yes. Like the

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Speaker 5: total attitude and energy and all of it has just changed,

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Speaker 5: And I have no idea what's going on with him?

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's trying to play hard to get now?

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Speaker 1: I think it's really.

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Speaker 6: Bad at him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the script, so does him just texting the

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Speaker 2: word busy to you over and over? Is that worse

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Speaker 2: than just getting straight up ghosted?

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Speaker 5: I don't think he ghosts, because like our family situaking

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Speaker 5: like that would be really weird.

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Speaker 2: But just say one word busy it implies that he's

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Speaker 1: Though busy. We're actually kind of busy right now.

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Speaker 2: So we should probably move on to the second part

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Speaker 2: of this call, where we reach out to Thomas for

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Speaker 2: you and try to figure out what's going on.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's honestly not super busy.

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Speaker 1: That's really important. We'll find out where we do your

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Speaker 1: second date update right after this second date update.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, quick recap of Jillian's date

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Speaker 2: with Thomas, a guy she's known for twenty years as

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Speaker 2: a family friend, and Thomas has actually asked her out

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Speaker 2: several times before. She always would say no to him

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Speaker 2: until he showed up to a family picnic looking like

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Speaker 2: a total snack, and she gave Tommy boy the old

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Speaker 2: green light after that.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to sit down next to the potato salad.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it doesn't get any hotter. So eventually went

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Speaker 2: over to his place. He cooked a meal for her,

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Speaker 2: so it sounds like a lot of the family gatherings

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Speaker 2: are kind of based around food, so that sounds normal.

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Speaker 2: But since then he's only been replying to her text

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Speaker 2: with one word busy.

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Speaker 3: Ah really cold.

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Speaker 2: And Jillian doesn't understand why. So we're trying to help

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Speaker 2: figure that out. Jillian, I'm curious, just going back to

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Speaker 2: the date night, you said he cooked like a coconut

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Speaker 2: curry thing for you. When you bit into it, did

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Speaker 2: you make a weird face or something that could have

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Speaker 2: been taken the wrong way by him, where maybe he

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Speaker 2: got offended.

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Speaker 5: No, No, there's no way like his coconut curry was amazing.

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Speaker 5: I was like gushing if anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they had a makeout session after words.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've made up with people angrily before when I've

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Speaker 2: been really mad at them.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they settle differences.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 1: If you're a.

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Speaker 2: Manager and Jeff asked for the manager or do not come, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the way you think you're about.

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Speaker 1: To get a piece of my mind and my tongue.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that their first kiss was like crazy

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Speaker 4: because it's like twenty years.

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Speaker 5: In the baking.

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Speaker 1: That's wild.

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Speaker 2: You even said it all felt natural, The kiss felt natural,

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Speaker 2: the chemistry, right, I mean.

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Speaker 3: There is potential in this if we can get keep going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's just dial his number.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he's not too busy to pick up, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see if we can get some answers.

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Speaker 5: Out of him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm doing right now. Hello, Hey is this Thomas?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Who's this?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: We're a radio show. We're called Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 1: the Morning.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Good morning.

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Speaker 6: Okay, we're just going to brag.

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Speaker 3: We are very excited to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I am. We've actually we've heard a lot about you

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Speaker 2: from someone who asked us to reach out to you

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Speaker 2: named Jillian.

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Speaker 7: Oh Okay, Yeah, okay, we know you know her for

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Speaker 7: a long time, and this is a segment we do

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Speaker 7: call the second date update because we're trying to figure

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Speaker 7: out why after you two hung out the other night

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Speaker 7: and had dinner together.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she feels like there should be another hangout

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Speaker 2: session and you're not responding.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't really know if I'm comfortable talking about this.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I gotta she had the date went so well? Did

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Speaker 1: it not go well?

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Speaker 2: In your eyes?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's such a cute story you two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this's been like in the making.

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Speaker 4: Right twenty years, you finally get out of the friend zone,

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Speaker 4: which impresses every man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I had. I was looking forward to it

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Speaker 6: and it went really well. But well, there's just a

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Speaker 6: violation of trust unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I do.

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Speaker 3: I don't think she's aware of that at all.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she probably isn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you are such good family friends going back

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Speaker 2: twenty years, I feel like you should be comfortable enough

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Speaker 2: to reach out and talk to her if there was

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Speaker 2: an issue, a violation of some sort.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not sure like how malicious it was,

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Speaker 6: but it's just it's complicated. Unfortunately, because of her, My

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Speaker 6: grandmother won't talk to me right.

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Speaker 3: Now, Wait, what what what does your grandma have to

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Speaker 3: do with Jillian?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I didn't realize at the time, but she

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Speaker 6: came over and I wanted to treat her right, right,

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Speaker 6: So I busted out grandma's secret recipe.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's like this amazing dish that we always make for

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Speaker 6: special occasions of coconut curry castle role right. And I

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I I don't know if she meant to steal it,

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Speaker 6: share that? You know, she's some petty grandma, right going on.

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Speaker 3: Dude, this feels not that petty to me, though. You

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Speaker 4: Event and everybody wants to know what it is, and

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Speaker 4: and then you have to ask, like, oh, are you

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring it. It's a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Some restaurants have literally started based on someone's secret family recipe,

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Speaker 2: like knoc yeah, whole secret recipe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I just I feel like, at the very least you

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Speaker 3: You know, did you tell her it was a secret

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Speaker 6: She knew, Oh yeah, oh yeah, she knows it's my

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Speaker 6: grandma's secret recipe. Okay, now my grandmother's like you let

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Speaker 8: You okay, hello, hello, Hello, I'm here comic okay ill

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Speaker 8: shoot all right, yeah, Thomas, that's Jilly and she's been

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Speaker 8: waiting on the other I wanted.

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Speaker 1: To talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's how this segment works. It's kind of sneaky,

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Speaker 8: No no, So listen.

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Speaker 5: I did know. I think it was going to be

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Speaker 5: my grandma was going to share it with your grandma

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Speaker 5: like that and like literally taunt her. I did not

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Speaker 6: Well, you've met our grandmothers. They they are like, well,

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Speaker 5: Oh, but I was thinking it was going to be

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's hilarious. Now she won't even like answer my

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Speaker 2: Oh well, if you don't really want to answer any

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I think you should.

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Speaker 3: Check the will because somebody made me written out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they could talk to her. Maybe I can

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Speaker 5: talk to her.

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Speaker 6: Trust me, she does not want to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, but to the temptress.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's only one way out of this,

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Speaker 4: and that's Jullian. You have to go get your grandmother's

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Speaker 3: Give it to Thomas's grandmother. It's like tit for tat,

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Speaker 5: He Wait, wait, guys, I don't know. Maybe that's a

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's too far. But what you did was innocent.

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Speaker 6: I think that might actually work. I think I know

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Speaker 7: Really tell us, don't.

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Speaker 8: Say it, please, Thomas, Please don't say.

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Speaker 6: It, Grandpa Joes bourbon pecan.

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Speaker 1: Pie, pecan pie.

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Speaker 2: That it would be a solution to balance things out

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Speaker 2: and restore peace to the neighborhood, into the grandma versus.

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Speaker 3: Really, if you have to sneak it, I think it's

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Speaker 3: worth it. Remember how hot Thomas got.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: You didn't hear that, Thomas. By the way, never mind.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are we really doing this right now?

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Speaker 2: Are we just swapping old family recipes resolve a dating dispute?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, somehow I find it sexy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't want Jillian's grandma to now be

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Speaker 2: mad at us for encouraging this and now we're caught

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Speaker 1: We'll just give her one of the Lexi's recipes butter

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Speaker 1: no milk water maybe Okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I can't believe we're doing this, But Jillian,

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Speaker 2: is it possible that you'd be able to give unleash

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Speaker 2: one family recipe in order to make things good with

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Speaker 2: Thomas pea.

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Speaker 3: Camp that's right, the Peacan pie.

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Speaker 2: It's possible.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Just quick correction, It's not just the peacanpire recipe

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Speaker 6: is a bourbon peacmpire. Yeah, all right, that's the one

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Speaker 6: we want, all right.

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Speaker 2: Jillian says she's willing to betray her own grandmother and

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to have to ask her, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, there you go. Will you say yes to

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Speaker 1: a second date? Because if you do, we would pay

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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how how can I say no?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Of course?

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Speaker 2: All right, after that pecan pie andry, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I'm hungry and turned on.

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Speaker 6: That's normal coming.

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Speaker 5: I want you forward to it.

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Speaker 6: Cute.

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Speaker 3: You guys are going to be cute.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, of course. And if you come over again, I

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Speaker 6: got the rest of your book out. Just promise me

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Speaker 6: you'll you'll ask me to close it or no? No

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Speaker 6: wandering eyes?

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you temptress.

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Speaker 2: Rookie Jeffrey in the morning missed opportunity, not for Thomas,

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Speaker 2: not for Thomas, and not for Jillian, for us.

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Speaker 1: How did we not get a pie order in.

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Speaker 2: At the very end we discussed pies for like the

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Speaker 4: What I want is an awkward Tuesday phone call with

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's where the real drama is.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to be part of a bakeoff.

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Speaker 6: Dude.

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Speaker 4: I feel like her grandma set her up, put it

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Speaker 4: in her mind to go out with him just so

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Speaker 6: I kind of.

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Speaker 1: Thought that too, like she was like, let's just go

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Speaker 1: on one date. Yeah, but then she would have been

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Speaker 1: asking us dirty work for me. So it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of drama still, but we love it.

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