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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: So tomorrow is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fiftieth wedding anniversary.

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Speaker 3: Bill already made plans dinner, dancing, some passionate love making,

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Speaker 3: and then home to Hillary.

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Speaker 2: There you go, how y'all doing.

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Speaker 1: Joe is doing a skin cancer thing, which he may

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Speaker 1: or may not talk about later because he'll be back

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Speaker 1: in a little bit. But he had run off to

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Speaker 1: the doctor. All of us of a certain age should

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Speaker 1: have gotten less sun when we were younger. Back in

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Speaker 1: the day, we used to lay out and get sunburned

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Speaker 1: every day, and you'd put baby oil on yourself to

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Speaker 1: as opposed to putting sunscreen on you put on something

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Speaker 1: to make them worse. Like my kids, I think one

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Speaker 1: I got a sunburn every two days from the age

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Speaker 1: up getting a lot of sunscreen or sun cancer treatments

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Speaker 1: of the doctor. So Judge Larry. We've had on the

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Speaker 1: show many times. Larry Goodman, who happens to be Katy Katie,

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Speaker 1: the Newslady's dad. Larry was a judge for a long time,

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Speaker 1: retired judge for the Spirit Court Alameda County in California,

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Speaker 1: That's where Oakland is retired in twenty seventeen. Judge Larry,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Armstrong You Getty Show.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Jack, how you doing pretty good?

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I wanted to bring this

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Speaker 1: up before we get to the other thing as I'm

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Speaker 1: going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: You're a judge. You went to law school.

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Speaker 1: You went to University of San Francisco for law school,

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Speaker 1: and we were just talking to Tim Sanderfer about how

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Speaker 1: left law schools are across the country.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: Well, they've changed a lot since I went there. I

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Speaker 4: mean I still get magazines and stuff from the law

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Speaker 4: school I went to, and it doesn't look like the

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Speaker 4: same law school I went to. There's all these different

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Speaker 4: classes that really don't have anything to do with practicing

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Speaker 4: law or passing the bar. It's it's a lot more

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Speaker 4: back in the seventies.

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Speaker 2: You mean like social justice sort of classes.

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Speaker 4: Social justice, equality, wrongful convictions. There's a lot of criminal

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Speaker 4: classes where they spend a lot of time attacking convictions

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to track your career path here before

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Speaker 1: we get to the fact that you were an embalmer,

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Speaker 1: which is a new news to us, and I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you about. So you got your bachelor's degree

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Speaker 1: at Stanford, which is very impressive.

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Speaker 2: What did you get your bachelor's degree in?

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Speaker 4: Well, I started out as pre d but then there

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Speaker 4: was a thing called the pre med math class, so

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Speaker 4: a degree in political science, you either teach political science

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Speaker 4: next choice. So I went to law school. I was

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a very promising, fantastic life path. How did

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Speaker 1: you end up dressing dead bodies?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 2: Where did this occur in your arc?

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Speaker 4: Well, there was a company in our hometown called Chapel

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Speaker 4: of Valley Valley Ambulance and back in those days bent

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Speaker 4: But our boss was a licensed bomber, but he was

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Speaker 4: And under California law back then, you could apprentice under

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Speaker 4: a licensed to bomber. So I was an apprentice and bomber.

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Speaker 1: So we are finding out, Judge Larry, that you were

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Speaker 4: Was I was apprentice? Yeah? I was an apprentice obomber

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy?

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Speaker 1: And uh so, so at what point did your boss

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Speaker 2: I need you to go drain the fluids out of

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Speaker 4: Well, it just it was, it was everybody just kind

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Speaker 4: to be an apprentice under my license, and I had

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Speaker 4: I think I kind of understand it, and I unders

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Speaker 1: Okay, but still you're a political science guy. At some

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Speaker 2: Wasn't that quite the experience.

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Speaker 4: It was when you're eighteen years old? Nineteen years old?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, Well does everybody have the stomach for it?

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Speaker 2: Or did have the people quit? Or what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know if I could do that.

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Speaker 4: We had people that wouldn't go near the prep room. Well,

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Speaker 4: I kind of came. My dad was a surgeon, my

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Speaker 4: pre med before I plucked the math courses, and so

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Speaker 4: I was not unfamiliar with hospitals and hearing stories about

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Speaker 1: Think oh, okay, okay, so you're a little more prepared

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Speaker 4: Prepared for that kind of thing. But yeah, it's shocking

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Speaker 4: So there are moments, yeah, but the part purpose of

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Speaker 4: if you're working with somebody that knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so after you get their fluids out and you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's depending on the status of the funeral and

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Speaker 1: I just I still don't understand the process of going

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, if you want to keep your job at

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Speaker 4: Chapel of Valley Valley Ambulance, you do kings say yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm on it. Although the first time I did it

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, and then you and then you soiled

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Speaker 2: And then what happened?

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Speaker 4: I told you. I crossed them again and went back,

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Speaker 4: because this is what's happening, and everybody else knew why

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Speaker 2: The hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Hey, the new guy just got scared because the dead

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Speaker 2: Joke that happens. Okay, Well I explained the whole situation.

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Speaker 1: It's just when Katie brought that up the other day

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Speaker 1: that you used to do this, I thought.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 4: From nineteen let's see, sixty eight to seventy four.

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Speaker 4: It was my summer job. And then i'd come home

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Speaker 4: on weekends. You know, when you're gotta study. Sitting in

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Speaker 4: get a lot of studying done. So I'd take all

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Speaker 1: I need to tell my kids about that. This is

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Speaker 1: the sort of job you could be doing. Judge Larry,

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Speaker 1: thanks for your time today. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: You're no problem, Jack. Take care.

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Speaker 1: That's quite the family arc you got there, Katie. So

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Speaker 1: your dad was a lawyer and went to Stanford. His

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Speaker 2: I did I did aim high? No, you know.

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Speaker 5: And also so my grandfather being a surgeon, he was

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Speaker 5: he was captured by the Japanese and held as a

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Speaker 5: prisoner of war for forty two months.

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Speaker 5: And because he was a surgeon, they would have him

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Speaker 5: He wrote a whole book and everything about it. It's

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Speaker 5: it's amazing. And then you know, dad went into I'll

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Speaker 5: And so, of course, what do you do there's a

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Speaker 2: So my dad gets out and he comes back.

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Speaker 5: He's just got blood all over the place, and he's like,

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Speaker 5: all right, hey, wipes it off.

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Speaker 2: Paramedics are on the way.

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Speaker 5: He's he's gonna be all right, gets in the car

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Speaker 5: we took off.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just it's just a yeah, the

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Speaker 1: hole you turn around and they cross their legs.

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Speaker 2: Thing that would freak me out. Yeah, ghosts or anything

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Speaker 5: But I've been around a dead he isn't dead yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it. Hey, this one's kicking his legs

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Speaker 2: a little. I think he's got a couple of good

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Speaker 2: years left in him. Oh my god, what are we

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Speaker 2: doing here? All right? Well, that's a good story.

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Speaker 1: We are going to find out from Mike Lyons, our

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Speaker 1: favorite military analyst. Tomahawk missiles. We're gonna give him to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: According to Trump? What do those do? What's that all about?

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that later this hour, among other things.

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Speaker 1: And then a dumb story. Britney Spears is upset that

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Speaker 9: We'll be helping Israel, but we have other countries that

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Speaker 10: Hey Jack, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 2: Who is we?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he means Israel number one. And then

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Well, the Tomahawk missiles alone, Will that be enough

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Speaker 1: to get Putin's attention at all?

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Speaker 10: No, but they're saying I don't think it is. But

445
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Speaker 10: they are saying that it's a red line for them,

446
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Speaker 10: and it would be somewhat politically, let's say, consequential, because

447
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Speaker 10: it would you know, signal this increased capability. But again

448
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Speaker 10: there's constraints as to whether or not a handful of

449
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Speaker 10: anything is really what it comes down to. It would

450
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Speaker 10: would be would work, and again you would still have

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Speaker 10: to combine it with intelligence on the battlefield, and you

452
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Speaker 10: have battle damage assessment, all the other things. It's not

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Speaker 10: it's just not that simple of saying I'm just going

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Speaker 10: for Tomawk cruise musciles that this problem set. I think

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Speaker 10: Russia is saying that would be from their perspective, a

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Speaker 10: red line. Now that's their leverage back. Whether or not

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Speaker 10: we do it or not remains to be seen.

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Speaker 1: So the drone strikes and rocket strikes continue from Russia

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Speaker 1: into Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: What is the theory on that.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this some So I just assume that

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Speaker 1: you keep sending these hundreds and hundreds of drones every

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Speaker 1: other night and at some point you hope you exist

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Speaker 1: lost Ukraine's defenses.

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Speaker 4: Is that it? Right?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's kind of it. And you know the difference

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Speaker 10: between this and Gaza is that let's say the Hamas

468
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Speaker 10: is exhausted on their side, Israel if not, but Hamas is,

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Speaker 10: so in order to get any kind of deal in

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Speaker 10: Ukraine that that would be more effective. Let's say that

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Speaker 10: wouldn't be this coercies fires if that both sides were exhausted.

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Speaker 10: So we looked at right now and don't see that

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Speaker 10: happening on the Russian side, we can say that they're

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Speaker 10: losing they're losing because they're not winning, because they should

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Speaker 10: have won this in some ways by now. But Ukraine keeps,

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Speaker 10: you know, staying in the fight because of their drone technology.

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Speaker 10: It gets better every month they add more capability. They

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Speaker 10: are increasing their their amount of drones that they're bringing

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Speaker 10: to the battlefield. They're making them smarter all the time.

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Speaker 10: They're giving them down to the to the squad unit level,

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Speaker 10: so they've got much more intelligence that they're gathering. You

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Speaker 10: combine that with the United States intelligent collection capability. They

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Speaker 10: are at least holding their own right now. But until

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Speaker 10: both sides become exhausted, when that's when you can successfully

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Speaker 10: say we'll have a cease fire here and we can

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Speaker 10: move forward with some kind of negotiation. But we're still

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Speaker 10: not there yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, Russia had their biggest call up in three years

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Speaker 1: the other day, right, so they must to be running

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Speaker 1: out of guys.

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Speaker 10: Well, no, this is more mobilization, and they're continue to

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Speaker 10: call up. They still have four times the population. They

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Speaker 10: can still withdraw from that pool, which is again historically,

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Speaker 10: countries that that outman the other country, you know, from

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Speaker 10: a historical perspective, usually win these wars of attrition because

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Speaker 10: that's where this completely is. I mean it's inch by

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Speaker 10: inch still down on the ground. World War one type

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Speaker 10: of technology, that's what we've talked about, World War One

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Speaker 10: type tactics that are taking place in trenches. The land

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Speaker 10: has been completely destroyed in that in that part of Ukraine,

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Speaker 10: in that southern and eastern portion, in the Dombats region.

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Speaker 10: So it's it's the spoils of war or made that

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Speaker 10: that almost uninhabitable at this point. But Russia can still

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Speaker 10: throw more people at this.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting stuff. One other topic I wanted to hit

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Speaker 1: you with before we let you go. So you have

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Speaker 1: said many things over the years that have stuck in

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Speaker 1: my mind, and one.

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Speaker 2: Of them is, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long ago it was that you

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Speaker 1: thought us in China would be swapping ordinance at some.

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Speaker 2: Point in the next few years. Do you still believe

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Speaker 2: that that's a that's the case.

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Speaker 10: Well, now that this president has shown the kind of

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Speaker 10: leverage in negotiating this peace settlement, he's become teddy Roosevelt

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Speaker 10: speaks soft of to carry a big stick, And I

517
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Speaker 10: think that the way this has gone down, I think

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Speaker 10: China is much more in a box. I think China

519
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Speaker 10: now is much more constrained. I think had we used

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Speaker 10: previous foreign policy negotiation tactics with Hamas right now that

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Speaker 10: Trump wasn't involved, look a couple of you know, New

522
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Speaker 10: York City real estate developers, you know, make this deal

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Speaker 10: twenty point deal, which you know still.

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Speaker 2: Has a lot to go.

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Speaker 10: But the bottom line is, I think China is now

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Speaker 10: more deterred than ever and I'm not sure that that's

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Speaker 10: the case. So at least in the short term, I

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Speaker 10: don't see anything with anything happening because of the way

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Speaker 10: this situation has evolved. Israel takes out the proxy forces

530
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Speaker 10: in the United States, takes care of the big player

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Speaker 10: in the rain and in the wrong situation, and now

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Speaker 10: Hamas is forced again coerced into making the ceasefire. I

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Speaker 10: think China now looks at the United States and says,

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Speaker 10: we cannot They're not predictable, that if we decide to

535
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Speaker 10: go after something, we can't tell what specifically we're going

536
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Speaker 10: to happen. So we've restored that level of deterrence that

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Speaker 10: we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan in the eighties, and

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Speaker 10: so I think I think that's a good thing from

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Speaker 10: a security perspective.

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Speaker 4: For the United States.

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Speaker 2: That's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want to drag you into politics,

543
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Speaker 1: but I would have to assume that they would not

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Speaker 1: have felt that way if Kamala Harrison. Yeah, but wow,

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Speaker 1: it's something to be alive at this point in history,

546
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Speaker 1: the way things are unfolding so quickly on so many

547
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Speaker 1: different spots.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I know for sure, thinking about where I was,

549
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Speaker 10: you know, thirty four years ago, I never thought the

550
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Speaker 10: Berlin Wall would fall. I never thought we would have

551
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Speaker 10: Gulf War One. Whoever thought any of those things would

552
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Speaker 10: happen Here we are now. I never thought Russia that

553
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Speaker 10: that lose their empire as well. And now there's no

554
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Speaker 10: question for the second half of the of the twentieth

555
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Speaker 10: you know, twenty first centuries is going to be this

556
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Speaker 10: fight for you know, global dominance in the United States

557
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Speaker 10: is still a player. I mean, we're you know, we're

558
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Speaker 10: two and zero in world wars, and I'd like to

559
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Speaker 10: think we're going to keep that up it should something

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Speaker 10: happen in the future.

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Speaker 2: What did you think of Hegzet's speech to the generals

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Speaker 2: the other day.

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Speaker 10: I'm of the ILK said it was a good thing

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Speaker 10: that they had that in person, and you know, people

565
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Speaker 10: who are losing their minds for reasons because they don't

566
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Speaker 10: like Pete Hegseth. But I mean I think that you know,

567
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Speaker 10: no general officer got out of their desk, got on

568
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Speaker 10: a plane, went to that meeting and got back, you know,

569
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Speaker 10: went went back home, right, They did other things, They

570
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Speaker 10: saw their family, they net work. So I just think

571
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Speaker 10: meeting in person is always good. I thought his message

572
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Speaker 10: was sound. I think it's too bad that the military

573
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Speaker 10: has gotten to the point where the standards have been lowered,

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Speaker 10: and a lot of it just had to do with

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Speaker 10: the politics of frankly, starting with Obama and Biden, you know,

576
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Speaker 10: not really enforcing anything. And I'm not saying that's Republicans

577
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Speaker 10: are not necessarily standard bearers for the military either, but

578
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Speaker 10: but there's been there was people that left the military

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Speaker 10: because of what was going on in the military into

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Speaker 10: those democratic administrations, and I think it's always good to reset.

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Speaker 10: The pendulum swings, and the pendulum has swung right now.

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Speaker 10: Everybody's clear what the intent is. They're clear at the

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Speaker 10: military academy, they're clear in the active duty units. Pete

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Speaker 10: hexapt like them, love him, hate him. He's crystal clear

585
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Speaker 10: about what he wants the military to look like at point.

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Speaker 1: So good, you know, good conversation today, Mike. Really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time, Mike Lyons. You can follow them at m

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Speaker 1: A G m Aj Mike Lyons on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, Thanks Jact, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: All those topics are interesting to me. We'll talk more

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Speaker 1: about that later. And Joe is returning for Hour four.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll bring that up then. So he thinks China

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Speaker 1: is deterred now by Trump and the you know, the

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Speaker 1: whatever they call it, the crazy man theory that you

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: Trump's only president for three more years though. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 1: I wanted to mention this while we're still on the

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Speaker 1: Was reading in the I don't know where it was,

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Speaker 1: Whatever city you're in, I'd be shocked if your experience

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Speaker 1: is not different than the cities I've been in visiting

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Speaker 1: or lived in, where your bus is almost always empty,

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Speaker 1: the metro train is almost always empty. Whatever you ride,

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Speaker 1: it's almost always empty. And you spend all this money

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Speaker 1: and people don't use them. Why do we put up

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Speaker 1: with this?

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Speaker 2: Anyway?

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Speaker 1: I want to get bogged down on that because I

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Speaker 1: want to get to this funny thing? Is it where

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Speaker 1: matter where it came from, it came from. Funny or die.

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Speaker 2: Once you set it up. Katie because I don't want

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Speaker 2: to ruin the job. Okay.

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Speaker 5: So it's a family that's it's from like the eighties

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Speaker 5: or the seventies, and they're sitting around and they're about

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Speaker 5: to enjoy a breakfast of eggs, steak, and toast.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Who are you?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing in our house? I'm from the future.

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Speaker 10: I'm here to warn you.

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Speaker 2: Don't eat that food. Why not the eggs. They're full

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Speaker 2: of cholesterol.

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Speaker 6: What eating even just one egg can dramatically increase your

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Speaker 6: chance of heart attack.

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Speaker 2: Don't eat eggs. Oh my god, thank you, you're welcome, godspeed. Well,

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Speaker 2: I guess I better take those eggs. What you're bad?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were wrong about the eggs. Hell, it turns

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Speaker 6: out there's two types of cholesterol. There's good cholesterol and

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Speaker 6: bad cholesterol, and eggs actually have both. But just don't

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Speaker 6: eat the egg yolks, so stick with the egg whites.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, God speed. I see where this is going.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Wait, we were wrong about the eggs again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So it turns out that the amount of

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Speaker 6: cholesterol in a food doesn't actually affect how much cholesterol

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Speaker 6: ends up in your blood. The eggs are probably fine.

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Speaker 6: In fact, we sort of don't even know what cholesterol is.

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Speaker 2: What does the steak? You can't eat the steak we

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Speaker 2: were all.

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Speaker 6: About the steak with.

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Speaker 2: The pas man was not meant to eat bread, was

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Speaker 2: not meant to eat breash. Turns out it's genetic.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't matter whether you exercise or what Shet'm sorry I.

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Speaker 2: Ruined your meal. That's pretty good. Oh, that is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I got into that conversation with somebody just the other

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Speaker 1: day who's roughly my age. You're too young for this, Katie.

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Speaker 1: But like when we were kids, and this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Where I grew up. I grew up in rural Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: the dairy state, where people had been eating bacon, eggs,

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Speaker 1: and you know, cheese and butter for their entire lives.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden came a study from

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Speaker 1: the government that said eggs have cholesterol, and bacon his

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Speaker 1: bed for in all these different things. And the thing

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Speaker 1: to eat is these cereals that are coming to plastic sack.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's in the dairy state where everything was made

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Speaker 1: right there, we were eating cereal out of a sack

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Speaker 1: because my having margarine instead of butter. Everybody that should

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Speaker 1: be brought up on a daily basis. Anytime the government

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Speaker 1: ever tells you to do anything with your health. Aren't

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Speaker 1: you the same people that told me to never eat

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Speaker 1: butter and only eat margarine. Then a couple of decades later,

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Speaker 1: you declared trans fat, which is what margarine in is.

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Speaker 2: It's a tub of trans fat.

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Speaker 1: Is literally the worst thing you can possibly put in

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Speaker 1: your body.

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Speaker 5: Right, and eat this cereal that's got twenty three grams

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Speaker 5: of sugar per bite.

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Speaker 1: Right, which we now know that study was paid for

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Speaker 1: by Kellogg's I think or the other company, one of

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Speaker 1: the big cereal companies paid for the study. But man,

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Speaker 1: that whole margarine butter thing be the It should be

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Speaker 1: the end of any argument about the government telling us

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Speaker 1: what to eat. Yeah, that's absolutely amazing. Wait, I'm back

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Speaker 1: what we were wrong?

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Speaker 2: We were wrong? Turns out I don't know.

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Speaker 6: What cholesterol is.

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Speaker 1: If you miss a segment or an hour, you can

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Speaker 1: find our podcast. We do twenty hours of this every week.

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Speaker 1: Seems like a what but if you ever missed a

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Speaker 1: segment and you want it, you can find our podcast

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of good stuff coming up an

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Speaker 2: hour four. I hope you can stick around, armstrong and

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