1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ Stankovitz. Welcome into another episode 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of The Colts Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast. We are back, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: and I would be remiss if I did not begin 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: this episode by offering my condolences and my thoughts and 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: my prayers to the entire Ursay family, everyone who knew 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: mister Orsay. It's been a difficult couple of weeks around 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: here on fifty sixth Street. The way that Jim Ersay 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: impacted this city and this organization, it's hard to even 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: fathom because we don't know everything. I mean, the amount 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: of people who he impacted without any cameras around, without 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: any press, without even you know, Pete Ward knowing, it 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: was immense. And the thing that I just keep going 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: back to with all the tributes that have come out 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: to him, it has been just the general and the 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: massive heart that he had for people and for this 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: city and for this organization. It's it's been tough, and 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: I know Jeffrey Gorman did an outstanding job memorializing mister Say, 18 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: paying tribute to him on his podcast that's already out 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: on all platforms that came out on Tuesday on high volume. 20 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: So please check that out. Really powerful impactful words from 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: someone in Jeffrey who knew mister say very very well. 22 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: It's this is kind of our transition into you know, 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: we are going to still talk about football. But I 24 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: would be remiss if I didn't open this episode of 25 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: a couple of words. And I thought, I've thought about 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: this a lot. So when I started with the Colts. 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I came here in twenty twenty one, and you know, 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: I moved my family from Chicago to Indianapolis. And it's 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: not for nothing. I mean, picking your family up and 30 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: moving because of your job. That's a lot of pressure. 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: You know. 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: I put a lot of pressure out of myself to 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, make this the right spot, make the cults 34 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: the right spot. And one of those moments where I 35 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: knew I was in the right spot was in late 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, my good friend Jeff Dickerson used 37 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: to cover the Bears for ESPN. He died of colon 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: cancer and j d had two years prior lost his 39 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: wife to cancer. They left behind their son, Parker, and 40 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: there was a GoFundMe for Parker, you know, to support 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: him in this horrible tragedy that he had endured with 42 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: losing both of his parents to cancer, and I mentioned 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: it to Gorman. We were doing an official Cults podcast, 44 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: and Jeffrey gave me the space to kind of talk 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: about j D a little bit and what he meant 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: to me and you know, my career and my friendship 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: with him, and I mentioned, you know, hey, there's this GoFundMe. 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: If anyone listening wants to support it, go ahead. So 49 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: that was probably ten o'clock in the morning on a Tuesday, 50 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: and then later that night I checked the GoFundMe and 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I saw there was a sizeable donation from Jim Orsay 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to it, and I was just like overwhelmed and overcome 53 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: with you know, I cannot believe that me taking this 54 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: job and you know, me being here in Indianapolis has 55 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: helped support Parker because of mister Orsay, and that that 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: was the moment, you know where I was like, you 57 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: know what, I made the right decision. I'm with an 58 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: organization that's going to take care of its people, that's 59 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: going to take care of people who need help. And 60 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: it was it was one of those moments that I'll 61 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: never forget, and I'll never forget just the generosity that 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: he he showed someone who meant something to me, and 63 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: I know he you know, I'm sure people listening to this, 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: watching this have their own personal stories of how mister 65 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Orsay impacted them. I've seen so many of them come 66 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: through the hashtag thank you Jim Orsay on social media 67 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: of you know, things he did big and small for people. 68 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: And you know, above else too, this guy freaking brought 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: a Lombardi Trophy to Indianapolis. You know, he's the reason 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: why the Colts are here, why Lucas Oil Stadium and 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts are here. He's the reason why I'm here. 72 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Then if we're all kind of extending that so, you 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: cannot minimize the impact he had. I think the tributes 74 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: that have gone out to him by you know, former players, coaches, 75 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: current players, they've been so impactful, and I think it's 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: been it's been very fulfilling to see the NFL community 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: come together for mister Ersay and to kind of I 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of people maybe outside of Indianapolis have 79 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: got they've maybe seen the impact that he's had on 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: this city, on the people who've come through this organization, 81 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: on so much any individuals, and I think that's been 82 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: kind of cool to see like a like a national scale, 83 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: the way that he is being remembered. We're we're gonna 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: miss him a lot, and uh, you know, it's it's 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a season of remembering him and honoring his legacy, 86 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: which is so impactful and so deep. I wrote about 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: it on Colts dot Com, just the way that he 88 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: impacted so many people, somebody lives in Indiana, across the country. 89 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: It's really impactful. But I do want to talk a 90 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: little football, and you know, kind of it feels weird 91 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: to almost make the transition back in, but we are, 92 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, we are in OTAs. We do have a 93 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: big season upcoming here, and this podcast is going to 94 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, we're back. We're here to talk about the Colts. 95 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: And I'm excited that today on the Pop bringing Josh 96 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: downs On, had a really good chat with him. This happened. 97 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: My chat with Josh happened probably two weeks ago, two 98 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: or three weeks ago, so it was before mister Say died. 99 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: It also, notably, you'll see it was before the the 100 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Pacers nixt series got started, so we kind of talked 101 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: about that a little bit at the end, but a 102 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: really good chat with Josh Downs, and next week coming 103 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: up on the podcast, I had a really good chat 104 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: with James Franklin, Penn State's head coach, talking about Tyler Warren. 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be next week and I'm gonna get 106 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: back into my thoughts maybe about this football team. Probably 107 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: not next week's podcast, but again, wanted to open this 108 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: podcast just talking about Jim Orsay again, my condolences to 109 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: his wonderful family, Carly Klin, Casey, all of their spouses, 110 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: all their kids. You know, we all we all have 111 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: so much love for mister say here and that'll never change. 112 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: So anyways, let's get to my chat with Cults wide 113 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: receiver Josh Towns. All right, it is my pleasure to 114 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: be joined here on the Colt Show by wide receiver 115 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Josh Downs. Josh Man, you're three for you here doing 116 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: ota is doing off season work. What's maybe something you've 117 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: been able to, like hone in on a little bit 118 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: more now that you've got a couple of years of 119 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: experience under your belt at this point in the year. 120 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point of the year, just big like 121 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: I've noticed is just keep getting your body like as 122 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: healthy as possible. 123 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, like and. 124 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: Also just getting better, getting faster, stronger, perfecting your craft. 125 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 3: But for me at the biggest thing is just getting 126 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: getting completely healthy and honing in on that because when 127 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: the season comes around, you're gonna have nigs, bumps here 128 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: and there. So it's like you don't have time to 129 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: take a week off during the season. You gotta just 130 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: go and go and go. So right now is doing 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: all the prehab rehab possible to just get get to 132 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: that next level, make sure your body's in good shape. 133 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: It's like, what does that sort of preh have rehab 134 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: look like for you? 135 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: I mean right now? I mean we have a great 136 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: change staff. 137 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: So I'm in there early and then staying after like 138 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: I just got done in there a few minutes ago, 139 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: and then just just doing ice, bad cry oh and 140 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: getting acupuncture, massages, anything possible to help. And then one 141 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: big thing I do is just I just try to 142 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: catch as many passes as I can every day. 143 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Is that something like that time commitment of doing all 144 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: this this stuff. This is something I remember I talked 145 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: with like Quiddy and like fuck about it a couple 146 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: of years ago. Just like people who aren't in professional football, 147 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: and you obviously grew up in a family, you know, 148 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: where your dad played, like they don't understand that extra 149 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: time commitment. Like I think people just don't see the 150 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: like the midweek stuff, like how many hours a day 151 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: are you putting in in that training room at this 152 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: point in the year, and then obviously like during the 153 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: season that maybe just no one else really sees. 154 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean right now, I would assume at least 155 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: two hours plus a day. I'm in there, coming like 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: an hour plus before the lift, and then I don't 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: we get done like one o'clock and I usually don't 158 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: leave to three thirty four every day, so I mean 159 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time in there and just trying 160 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 3: to get my body right. So I mean it's kind 161 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: of like any job, if you want to be good 162 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: at it, you gotta spend extra time. You can't just 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: oh that we start at nine leave at one, like 164 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: you can do that, but I feel like that's like 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: the bare minimum. At the end of the day, you 166 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: put in what you get out what you put in. 167 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: So it's like if you don't if you don't put 168 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: in extra work, you're not gonna see extra results. 169 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: This is your third year going through like installs with 170 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: Shane with Jim Bob, with Reggie like that offensive coaching staff. 171 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: How do you digest like a basic install right? 172 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So for me, like yeah, year three, as 173 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: you said, so pretty much know the offense in and out. 174 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: It's just mainly now just there's little things that you 175 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: might like, oh like I remember that, but I also didn't, 176 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: So let me write this down so that when the 177 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: time comes in the season, you're not like, oh, like, 178 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: what's the split on this player? 179 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Like oh like I forgot the snap count. 180 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: So you just know specific things that you can just 181 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 3: look at and really fine tune in detail, and then 182 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: just just making sure your routes are great and catching 183 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: the ball is main main thing as a receiver. So 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: for me, like right now, like we installed, and we 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: do run the routes and run through some plays, but 186 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm like every day is like all right, catch extra passes, 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: catch extra passes, so those those little focus drops and 188 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: like thing like when you get tired, like you're not 189 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 3: in a game, like exhausted and drop a pass like 190 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: not like I already caught one hundred and fifty two 191 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: hundred balls a day in offseason, so it's gonna pay 192 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: off right now. 193 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a catch you had 194 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: last year. It was your first touchdown of the season, 195 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: and this kind is going to go into the like 196 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: how many balls are you catching? 197 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: Right? 198 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: So you run kind of a little out or out 199 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: and in you kind of feel some space. You're right 200 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: on the goal end. It's like third and four and 201 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: you catch it and Patrick Queen, linebacker on the Steelers, 202 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: big physical dudes kind of coming down at you. Kind 203 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: of walk me through this play because he pops you 204 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: and you hang out of the ball crossing the goal line. 205 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: How are you feeling that linebacker and what do you 206 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: have to do to be able to make that catch 207 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: in a game setting? 208 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so basically, like the route like the coach coach 209 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 3: detailed up somewhere. 210 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: There will be an opening in that area. 211 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: And basically like it was me and Pitt running like 212 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: a two man concept and it was gonna be based 213 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: off what that corner does and the corner dropped off 214 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: on Pitt so the underneath was open. But yeah, basically 215 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: that's that's an awareness thing on the field. You gotta 216 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: it's weird, like the call like spidy senses, I guess, 217 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: just being able to like you can't see the person, 218 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: but you like, like, I know somebody's around here somewhere, 219 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: because they're not just gonna leave this space void. And 220 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: then when you feel that void, staying in it and 221 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: not just running to the next window where you'll get covered. 222 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: And then after that is when the ball does come 223 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: to you, like the defender's trying to knock your head off. 224 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: So at that point, it's it's. 225 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: Moving your body into the correct spot to where I 226 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: can take this hit and hold onto the ball. And 227 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: then also just a way to absorb the hit in 228 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: the man or like all right, I'm not gonna take 229 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: a hit straight to the head or or like take 230 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: a ear hole shot. It's like now I'm gonna turn 231 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: my back so I might feel it still, but at 232 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: the end of the day, the ball's on the front 233 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: side of me, So I get hit my back still, 234 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: LA and come down with it. 235 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: What does it feel like to make that catch and 236 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: then pop right back up and celebrate. I mean, I 237 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: don't think anyone watching this unless they're also an NFL player, 238 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: knows that it's like to get hit by a two 239 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds linebacker like you're did on that play. 240 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: Nah, it's it's it's in the moment, you're like, okay, touchdown, surreal, 241 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: Like it's it's a blessing to get in that end zone. 242 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: It's hard. Even to get on the field and make 243 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: a catch is very hard. So you forget about all 244 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: that right after that, but you're gonna feel it the 245 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: next morning. That's that's really when it all kicks in. 246 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: You wake up and you're like, oh, my back kind 247 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: of hurt. It's like, oh I did did kind of 248 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: get in a car accident right there. So it's like 249 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: in the moment, you don't. You're just like, Okay, I scored, 250 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: like like thank you, and then you celebrate with your teammates. 251 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Your dad played running back. I mean, I'm sure he 252 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: had every week he probably felt like that. How did 253 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: he sort of coach you up of like how to 254 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: play through pain and just those those things that accumulate 255 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: throughout a season. 256 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when I was younger, me and my brother 257 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: and my dad, it was just like basically like, y'all 258 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: can play running back now, but y'all not playing running 259 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: back at your main position. That's what he told us, Like, 260 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: that's that's a position you get banged up too. 261 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: Much. 262 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: He was like, and he's like, you're gonna go through 263 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: injuries and football anyways, and he's like at running back, 264 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: I don't want y'all to have. 265 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: To go through what I went through. 266 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, basically just just teaching us toughness, not to 267 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: be like like if, of course people are injured and 268 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 3: you can't help that, but there's times when you can 269 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: have a minor injury that I could sit out, but 270 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: it's like, I know I can play through this. So 271 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: it's like it's a mental game. It's like mind ever matters. 272 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: So not just always being hard on me and my 273 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: brother being tough like and teaching us like, nah, even 274 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: even if you're sore, work through that source. Even if 275 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: you got a little pain, work through that. And I 276 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: always try to remember like a little phrase, pain builds power. 277 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: You keep working through that pain, Eventually you gonna see 278 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel. 279 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: It's like one of those things where if it's if 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: it's not gonna get worse by you playing, does that 281 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: help you just kind of like mentally say Okay, yeah, 282 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: I can go go through this. 283 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah one hundred percent. If you just know, like the 284 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: injuries not like chuckle, the trains and all that. If 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: you know, like, okay, you do have this and it's 286 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: gonna hurt a little bit, but eventually it'll go away. 287 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: Then it's like okay, but like then there's a side 288 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: of it you can get. You can make this worse, 289 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: and then it's like, okay, that is true, I can 290 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: still play through it. But then they's side of like, 291 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: all right, I can't play through this and it'll get worse. 292 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: That's when you gotta take a step back and really 293 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: get in the treatment room, rehab and all that. 294 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: So your your dad told you, hey, don't play running back, 295 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: so you play wide receiver. Your brother goes to the 296 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. Take me through the backyard 297 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: at the Downs household with you and Caleb going out 298 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: of his kids. 299 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we both played offense and defense growing up, 300 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: and our dad was the main person working us out 301 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: all the time. So my brother is like an excellent 302 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: running back. That's what a lot of people don't know, 303 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: Like I firmly. 304 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, he's a great punt returner, so I could see it. 305 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And he's like if he wanted to go 306 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: to college and play running back, I think those a 307 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: few schools that were just like, yeah, he can do that, 308 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: but I'm talking about phenomenal running back, one of the 309 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: best I've ever seen. But like my like my dad 310 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: was just like, oh, he has a knack for tackling. 311 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: He used play linebacker when he was younger, but he 312 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: was like I don't know. I mean, he's like I 313 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: don't know how big he's going to be to play linebacker, 314 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: so kind of transitioned him to safety nickel, and I 315 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: mean it's been working out really well. He's always had 316 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: that knack for tackling, which helps his dB because like 317 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 3: there's always that that stereotype like oh DB's and coolies 318 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: don't want to tackle. But like now he has that 319 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: knack for tackling, but now he just had to build 320 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: those coverage skills and it just it just like flowed 321 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: very well. 322 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: Do you like say anything anything to him before games? 323 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Do you like send him a text or you know 324 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: anything like that? 325 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I do. 326 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: My brother is very like superstitious kind of he doesn't 327 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: like text anybody back before his games. He don't, but 328 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: he reads the message. So I always send him a 329 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: good luck text and then talk to him after the game. 330 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: But before the games he's he's one of the most 331 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: like laser folks as people I have ever seen. He's 332 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: he's locked in on what he has to do and 333 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: he knows what he gotta do. So I eat, my 334 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: mom my dad. We all talk about like he ain't 335 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: answered nobody on game day, but we still send like 336 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: the good luck text. But I'm the opposite, like they'll 337 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: they'll my parents text me and all that, I'm texting 338 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: them back and all that. 339 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: So we're a little different. 340 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: Does it drive you nuts to watch football like on TV, 341 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: like a TV broadcast because he plays safety and sometimes 342 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: those TV broadcasts you can't see the safeties as soon 343 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: as the ball snapped, Like how do you watch your 344 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: brother play? 345 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 346 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I always before the snap, I always see where 347 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: he is and then then I paying to. 348 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: The like of course the main snap and all that. 349 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: But I can I always know when he makes the 350 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: play because I'm always like, I always know where he 351 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: is at the beginning to play, and then play happens, 352 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: goes through and I can tell what he did or 353 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: what he what he didn't do, and then I and 354 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: then I go from there. But yeah, whatever team he's on, 355 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: I'm number one fan of that team when he played 356 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: for Alabama, I was, I was screaming at the TV. 357 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: And now he's on Ohio State and I was doing 358 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: the same thing last year. 359 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Did you go to the championship game? 360 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: I did. I went to the championship game. 361 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: I went to the rivalry game when they played Michigan, 362 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 3: and I was supposed to go to the Cotton Bowl, 363 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: but my flight got canceled. So it was it was 364 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: like snowing in Georgia. And funny thing about Georgia when 365 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: they get snow, they don't they don't know. 366 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: They're not prepared. 367 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: They're not prepared, so they get an inch of snow 368 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: and everything, it's just it's over with. 369 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: So what what was your like your view of watching 370 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: him win a championship, Like, how did you, as his brother, 371 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: sort of see that? 372 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was it was surreal. I was 373 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: very excited for him, like really's like i mean, like 374 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: with his successes, I'm just as happy, if not more happy, 375 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: when he when he achieved a lot of things, and 376 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: I'll just be when they won the national championship, him 377 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 3: being a big role in that, I was. I was 378 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: very happy. I mean I was in the stands cheering, yelling. 379 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: I'm when Notre Dame was coming back, I'm almost having 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: a heart attack. I'm like, come on, like, let's get 381 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 3: it together, and I'm just but it was. 382 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: It was surreal. 383 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: I was I was very excited for and I mean 384 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm very excited for that team. A lot of great 385 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: players on that team, and I know that they work 386 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: for it and they had they built that roster, and 387 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: it was good to see. 388 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: Him like that. 389 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Do you, like, I don't know how much you did 390 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: this when when you were coming out, but like, do 391 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: you pay attention to mock drafts now at all? That 392 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: like have him as like this guy's gonna go top ten. 393 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: You know, he could be the first safety going to 394 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: the top tens in Shamala Adams, Like, do you pay 395 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: attention to any of that? 396 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: So as of right now, I haven't as much, but 397 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: I do know he's in those talks, like I would 398 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: just assume he's in those talks. 399 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: I saw. 400 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: I see a little couple of TikTok Twitter videos talking 401 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: about him all the time and saying like, oh he's generational, 402 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 3: this that and the third and and I do see that. 403 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna, of course, everybody sees those things, so 404 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: I'm going to see him. 405 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: But the thing about pre draft is it's a lot 406 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: of people. 407 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: Judging here and there, good and bad. Everybody's just critiquing you. 408 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: So as he's my little brother, so sometimes I'm like 409 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: get a little defense. 410 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, who are you talking about? 411 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 3: But I'm just like yeah, Like I'm like, yeah, I 412 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: don't want to see all some of that stuff. But 413 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 3: I know he's gonna he's gonna kill it. He's gonna 414 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 3: be prepared, he's gonna have a great year, and everything's 415 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: gonna work out. 416 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: What do you remember about your pre draft process and 417 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: like did you have to tune out everything that was 418 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: said about you? Like or did you maybe see like 419 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: this person said this negative thing about me, Like that's 420 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: not right. I'm going to use that as motivation, Like 421 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: how do you kind of handle that? 422 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: A little bit of both. It's so different people handle 423 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: things different ways. I definitely did a little bit of both. 424 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 3: But you can't look at all of it because if 425 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: you look at all of it, you could you can 426 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: start like like thinking like oh dang, like hmm, maybe 427 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: they're right, or like somebody could be boosting you up 428 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: a lot, and you're like, oh, like I am this, 429 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: and so it's like you got to use it both 430 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: good and bad. 431 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: But you can't look at it all day. 432 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: Every day you're gonna it's it's impossible not to see 433 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: it unless you're just not on social media at all. 434 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: But I would say, yeah, I just try to minimize that, 435 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: especially when you're coming out. 436 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: Do you ever think back on that, like that that 437 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: process to like where you're at now, having you know, 438 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: broke a Colts record as a rookie, led the team 439 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: in receptions last year, Like, do you ever think about 440 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: that now that you've had some success in the league. 441 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think about it because I'm like, man, time 442 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: just flies by. I'm like I'm already on year three 443 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: and I just remember like being younger is like was 444 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: the main thing was like I just want to go 445 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: to the NFL. I'm like, it's year three now, and 446 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm like pre pre draft is one of the it's 447 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: like one of the most. It's it's it's a very 448 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 3: exciting time for you. You're not in school, you're just 449 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: working out for like two and a half three months. 450 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a surreal moment just work out, 451 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: go home, relax, and you're like, dang, I gotta I 452 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: got this down period of time. But then then you 453 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: hit it, hit the ground, runn and you got no 454 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: time to waste. And and when when teams, when teams 455 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: like draft you high, they expect you to come in 456 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: there and and contribute early. 457 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: So pre draft is a great time. 458 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 3: I think back on it all the time guys I 459 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: worked worked out with, and I'm just like, man, that 460 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: was an incredible time. 461 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 1: What has it been like for you? I mean, again, 462 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: you grew up in a football family. Your family's you 463 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: got you, you got kid, we got your dad, you 464 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: got you know, dre Bligh. But like being coached by 465 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne, what has that experience been like for you? Now? 466 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: Three years into being coached by a guy who you know, 467 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: his name is on the building. He should be in 468 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, you know, a guy of his caliber. 469 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's uh. 470 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: I've always said I wanted to have a coach that played, 471 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: and having a guy like him is it comes with 472 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: a certain level of respect just like he been there, 473 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: done that. 474 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: So it's it's it's cool to be able to just ask. 475 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: A coach like what would you do here in this situation? 476 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: And and he's really done it before, So it's that's 477 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: that's probably the main part for me, just being able 478 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: to like be like, hey, coach, like they're they're they're 479 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: playing this kind of defense. I'm trying to run this 480 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: r out. What would you do? He explains it. Okay, 481 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: I understand that, and then try it out for yourself. 482 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: And then just again having a guy of that caliber, 483 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: it comes with a level of respect, like, all. 484 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: Right, he's he's he's seen a lot, he's done a lot, 485 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: and like. 486 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: If he if he believes in you, just like really 487 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: don't matter a lot of other people who don't believe 488 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: in you because he's been there, done that. 489 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: We sometimes like the best players don't always make the 490 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: best coaches because they're like, you know, well I did 491 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: it this way, so this this is the only way 492 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: to do it. But I've never got that impression from 493 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: Reggie that like he's ever even you know, like you 494 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: can go ask him like, hey, how would you do this? 495 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: But he's never been like, you know, hey, the way 496 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: I did it, which was special, it got him fourteen 497 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: thousand yards is the only way to do it. I 498 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: think that that must be a special trait that he 499 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: has as a coach to where he can lean on 500 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: his experience, but it's not the only way to do it, 501 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 502 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, just because he's a player, he understand everybody's different. 503 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: So he like it's not like, hey, you do. 504 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: This release and you do the same release because people 505 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: have different movements and he understands that. So like he's 506 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: one guy that's not like, hey, everybody needs to do 507 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: this release and you need to run the route this way. 508 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: It's like some people don't have the same feet, some 509 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: people don't have the same hands. So it's like you 510 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: got to be able to cater to your players. And 511 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: I think he does a good job of a Are you. 512 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: A goals guy? Like a personal goals guy? 513 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: I used to be more I am now I try 514 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 3: to just I'm like being like a lot, like just 515 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: growing up in my faith and all that, I try 516 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: to just just do the work beforehand, and I just 517 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm firm believer that God will take care of the rest. 518 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: So for me, I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna 519 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 3: put the work in beforehand. When my opportunity comes, it's 520 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: gonna come. But I mean of course personal goes like, yeah, 521 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: I want a thousand yards and doing stuff in that nature. 522 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: But I just believe that whenever the opportunity comes to me, 523 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: and however many opportunities that is, I got to just 524 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: take advantage of it. 525 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: And that's like, you know, the thousand yards come from 526 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: you setting the goals like down here right, Yeah, like. 527 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: The work and all that stuff beforehand, like I'm gonna 528 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 3: do extra here, extra there, so when those opportunities do come, 529 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: like I can, I can put those opportunities into fruition 530 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: and really make the place. 531 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Okay, last one for you here, So was the first 532 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: time you went to Indianapolis for the combine? 533 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, Indianapolis? Yea. 534 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: I played Notre Dame one time in South Bend, but 535 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: that's that's not the first time was. 536 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: The Okay, So you've lived here now for three years? 537 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: What has seeing what the Pacers are doing right now? 538 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: What does that taught you about this city? 539 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 540 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: So I have definitely been keeping track of the Pacers'. 541 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: You've been saying pacers in five. 542 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Pacers gonna beat the Knicks 543 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: in six or seven in my opinion, and I think 544 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: it would be the Pacers and the Oka See in 545 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: the finals. I don't know who's gonna win the finals, 546 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: but I do think it will be Pacers and Okay, see, 547 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: there are more similar. 548 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: Teams than people want to admit. 549 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: They're both very young, they've run, they got a lot 550 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: of dudes that can score. So I'm interested in how 551 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: that that final series playout. I believe they can be 552 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: okay see so but now it see it shows how 553 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: the city will get behind the team's back and you're 554 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: making plays, you out there balling like they're gonna be 555 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: right there with you, Like they pack up the stadium 556 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: just as good as the Knicks do. So I love 557 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: to see it, and I really think that the Pacers 558 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 3: can make it a deep run even win it. 559 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: So is that like inspirational for you at all? To 560 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: like see, hey, like you know, Pacers are doing this, 561 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: this is how the city gets behind them. Let's go 562 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: do that for us with the Colts? 563 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, you definitely want to You definitely want 564 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 3: to follow suits today. You don't want to be like 565 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: a even the w NBA team, you don't want to be, uh, 566 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: the the person left behind. It's like, well they're they're 567 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: handling there so it's like we got to do the 568 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 3: same and like we got a bigger stadium. It's like 569 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: and it would bring even more fans. So it's like 570 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: it's like, well they're they're sitting the stage right now. 571 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 3: It's like we come in later in the year and 572 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta finish it off. 573 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: That's cool, Josh Downess, appreciate your time. Man, you're on 574 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: the podcast all right. Thanks again to Josh Downs for 575 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: joining me here on the Cult Show. Remember tune in 576 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: to High Volume with Jeffrey Gorman a really special episode 577 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: this week talking about the life and legacy of Jim Mersay, 578 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: paying tribute to Jim or say That podcast again is 579 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: already out on YouTube, on Apple, Podcasts, on Spotify, wherever 580 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: you get your cults podcasts, go check that out. I 581 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: will be back next week with Penn State head coach 582 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: James Franklin. Had a really insightful check about Tyler Warren 583 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: and the kind of impact he can make. 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