1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: I can't compare a guy to Fred Warner and then 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: at number two overall be like, yeah, nah, at least 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: pick an interests your intead, Like if I, if I 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: honestly think that this guy has Fred Warner potential, it's 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: so hard for me to not select it. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Following the NFL combine, which prospects are rising and who's falling? 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: What to make of a recent Jets trade, and why 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: the draft forecast might suddenly look Sonny Plus A mock 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: draft with Trevor Sikama now boarding starts in three two one. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Tampa Bay Trey Trevor Sikama from Pro 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: Football Focus and the National Football League Stock Exchange podcasts. 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: You wear so many hats, and there's so much to 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: get to right now. How much did the NFL combine 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: play into player evaluations? 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: A ton? Honestly, I love a lot of different parts 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: of the draft process. You know, all the way to 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: summer scouting. Right summer scouting, you're building the foundation of 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: what a lot of these guys are going to do. 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: You're talking about them from a perspective of how much 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: better they could possibly get, what we could see the 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: upcoming year. Obviously, there's the game tape that we get 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: during the fall in the winter, then you get into 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: some All Star balls. Okay, you start to get maybe 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: some official measurements of the Shrine and the Senior Bowl. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 1: But when the Combine comes around, that's when a lot 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of stuff becomes official. You get the official measurements for 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: these players, you get some word on some official medicals 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: of what could be their health status going into the league. 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: And then of course you get the testing as well. 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: And there's a handful of players that even last week, 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: you know, had some overall athletic questions, who answer those 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: questions emphatically, and that's when we get to the big 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: time risers up these boards. So I love the Combine, man. 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: I know some people think, oh, it's the underwear Olympics. 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: They're not wearing paths, it doesn't matter. But I really 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: do love it, and I think that there's a ton 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: of value to take away from the NFL Combine, even 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: if there's no actual football being played. 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Yet. We're saving the best for last, because we're going 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: to end today by getting to your two. 41 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: Round mock draft. Interesting trade. 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: Last week at the NFL Combine, the Jets bring in 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: to and Andre Sweat from the Tennessee Titans. We know 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: he is a mammoth space eater twenty four years old. 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: Jeremay and Johnson rionnided with Robert Sala with the Titans. 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Does that make edge even more of a priority for 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: the Jets in this draft? 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: I think it does, right because we've talked about some 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: potential scheme in front changes for the Jets, and that 50 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: was obviously going to be the case, right because you 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: look at last year going into last year and really 52 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: how the Jets have been built over the last couple 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: of seasons. Certainly when Robert Sala was there, he's much 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: more based out of that even front four down defensive 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: lineman type of base defense. And Aaron Glenn I think that, yeah, 56 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: there's certainly some of that. But Detroit was multiple in 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the ways that they did things, so 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: you weren't sure exactly what you were going to do. 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: But having Quinnin Williams as your main guy, I mean, 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: he's a three technique defensive tackle. So when you have 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: when the strength of your interior defensive line is at 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the three technique position instead of maybe the edges or 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: or like a nose tackle type you're going to build 64 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: your front around that player. Well, an even front is 65 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: the way that you do that. So with quinnin no 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: longer on the team, it really gave them the opportunity 67 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: this past offseason to take a good hard look at 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: the front seven overall and say what's our best course 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: of action here? And it just feels as though they're 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: gravitating more towards those odd front sets. Of course, every 71 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: team in the NFL is very multiple in what they do. 72 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: But when you have a true's nose tackle, now the 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: way that Devandre Sweat is that allows you to play 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: some traditional or even variation forms of that three to 75 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: four defense. Yes, I do think that it raises the 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: allurement and desire to get a certified outside linebacker type 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: of an edge rusher on this team, knowing that they 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: now have to Andandre Sweat to play as that true 79 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: nose tackle for an od front defense. 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: All right, Trevor, word March. That means the madness is here. 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Pro free agency begins next week, right now, whom should 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: the Jets consider at number two? 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: So at number two, of course, like you mentioned, like 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: pre free agency, will see kind of how they fill 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: out the rest of their needs and the rest of 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: the roster here in a couple of weeks. Over the 87 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, I should say I think there's 88 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: three players that you consider. Technically, I would consider four players, 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: but the fourth player is Caleb Downs, the safety from 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I'm just not sure he's going to get 91 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: considered at number two given how crazy athletic a lot 92 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: of these defensive linemen were, so I'd consider him at two. 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: But really I think the big three are r bel Rees, 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: David Bailey, and Sonny Styles. Yes, I would put Sony 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Styles in that conversation. I think the linebacker conversation of oh, 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's just a linebacker. You know, it's lower 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: positional value. I don't believe that when you were as 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: good as Sonny Styles is, when you have the size 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: that he does, the length that he does, the explosiveness, 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: and then Eric his Indiana game is the game that 101 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: I've seen of any prospect in this entire class, doesn't matter. 102 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the way that he was playing in that 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: game was unbelievable. I don't say this very lightly, but 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: this is a player who could have a Fred Warner 105 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: type of impact for your defense. And when you get 106 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: to say things like that that totally puts that off 107 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: ball linebacker position into that top tier positional value for 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: what he can do for the rest of your defense. 109 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: So I think that you consider him and then the 110 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: other two guys. Rvel Reese said at the podium at 111 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: his combined sessions that he wanted to be viewed as 112 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: more of an edge rusher and an outside linebacker than 113 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: necessarily an off ball type of a linebacker. And so 114 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: with that being the case, of course him and David 115 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Bailey the top two athletes at the position in this class, 116 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: they're going to be in consideration there as well. I 117 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: love Ruben Bain. I just don't know whether or not 118 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the Jets are going to consider him now if they 119 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: want to go more of that outside linebacker type of 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: edge rusher he is. I probably should have said at 121 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: the top another guy that I would consider, but I'm 122 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: not so sure the Jets are going to given what 123 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: their scheme is hoping to be this upcoming season. So 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: I would say the main three that you'd consider here 125 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: are rvl Rees, David Bailey, and Sonny Styles at number 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: two overall for the Jets. 127 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: All right, the Styles surprised you in Indianapolis, because you've 128 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: been talking about that game tape against Indiana for months now, 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: saying this guy is a great player. He was so 130 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: impressive at the podium. What about the measurables and what 131 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: he was able to do in drills? 132 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yes, even for a player who I 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: already had sky high expectations for, for him to live 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: up to those and even exceed those in some ways 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: just goes to show what a special prospect this guy is. 136 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: There's a chance that he ends up as my number 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: one overall player in this class. I think he is 138 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: that good. And you know, you see him in Ohio State A. 139 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: You know they list him around six foot five, two 140 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds. But we know schools can sometimes 141 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: lie about things like that, you know, fabricating a little 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: bit like a dating profile. Make sure that they're rounding 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: up on all of those numbers. But he showed up 144 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: a legit six foot five, a legit over two hundred 145 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: and forty pounds. His forty three and a half inch 146 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: vertical jump was the highest mark of any player at 147 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: any position since nineteen ninety nine, who weighed in at 148 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: over two hundred and forty pounds. So he's got rare 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: air athleticism, not just for the linebacker position, but any 150 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: athlete that has come through over the last twenty five years, 151 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: and any time that you could say that that's truly 152 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: a special player. Then sort of the intangibles that you 153 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: kind of were talking about there listening to him at 154 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: his podium session, how he just commanded the room and 155 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: how just I cannot find anybody that I'm talking to, 156 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, whether they're in the league or covering this 157 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: from the media side, who has anything negative at all, 158 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: what to say at all, to say whatsoever about who 159 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: he is also between the ears and who he is 160 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: as a person. This is a true leader type of 161 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: a player and somebody who could bring everything to the 162 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: table at that spot. 163 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: Speaking of between the ears, what do you make of 164 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: Ty Simpson and what he was able to do in Indianapolis? 165 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: I like Ti man, I really do. I mean, halfway 166 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: through the college football season, I had Ty Simpson as 167 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: my QB one in this class, and then you know 168 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: after that he started to struggle, Like Oklahoma game was 169 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of where a lot of the struggles 170 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: really started from him in the middle of the season, 171 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: and I know he was going through injury, and he 172 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: was playing through injury. But man, the first half of 173 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the year, and you got to remember, this is his 174 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: first year as a full time starter, and what he 175 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: was at the beginning of this season was really impressive. 176 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: He's somebody who knows how to hang it in a pocket. 177 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: He could play under center. You know, he can go 178 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: through all sorts of reads and progressions and eventually even 179 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: getting to backside concepts of certain routes. On plays, He's 180 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: making protection calls at the line of scrimmage, he's identifying 181 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: where the mic linebacker is, where pressure's gonna come from. 182 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: He knows where his hot reeds are. And the more 183 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: that he plays, the more that that tells me that 184 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna get full freedom to be able to check 185 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: to different plays, change different plays, change different route concepts 186 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: with his receivers. I think that between the ears, this 187 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: guy's got starting caliber NFL potential. I really do, And 188 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: I really liked what I saw from the on field 189 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: portion of ty Simpson's day. Obviously, throwing at the combine, 190 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: it's not the biggest deal in the world. It's a 191 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: very small piece of the pie when it comes to 192 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: their scouting report, But there is something too getting plopped 193 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: into a random environment, new receivers, new stadium, haven't practiced 194 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: there before, and to look as clean as an and 195 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: as accurate as ty Simpson did, especially throwing deep to 196 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: a lot of those different receivers. So I know it's 197 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a small thing, but it really did impress me how 198 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: he was able to go out there and throw the 199 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: football in Indianapolis. 200 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: We're not going to hold you to this, but come 201 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: draft weekend, how many quarterbacks are gonna going are going. 202 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: To be selected in the top two rounds? 203 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I think I think it's still just going to be 204 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: two I do. I think that it's going to be 205 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: obviously for Nana Mendozo, we believe firmly that he's going 206 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: to go number one overall. I think time makes it 207 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: somewhere in the first round. I think mid to late 208 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: first round is where we're going to land on ty Simpson. 209 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know obviously what destination going to be yet, 210 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: but I feel as though he's going to get drafted 211 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: somewhere in the first round. Garrett Nusmeyer from LSU is 212 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: the only other quarterback that I think is going to 213 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: get consideration for that second round, and I think there's 214 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: a world where an NFL team could buy into the 215 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: fact that, you know, his dad's an offensive coordinator and 216 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: he's been a long time coach at at a high 217 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: level in college as well as in the NFL. Nes 218 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: Meyer's grown up around the game because of that, he 219 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: understands the position very well. And if you you know, 220 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: want to believe a lot that he was also playing 221 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: her at this past season, which he was, then maybe 222 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: you could just sort of believe into the best of 223 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: what he is. But he's a little bit undersized, and 224 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I think that there's some physical, you know, questions for 225 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: him as well. If he was if Garrett Nessmeyer was 226 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: exactly the way that he is, but he was built 227 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: like Drew Aller, I think I'd probably tell you that 228 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: he's going to make it in the second round. I 229 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: think that I tell you he's going to be a 230 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: second round pick. But with him being a little bit 231 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: undersized of a quarterback and him already having some question 232 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: marks around him, I'll say he's more of a third 233 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: round guy than a second round guy right now. 234 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: Trevor, Let's build a star edge prospect from the twenty 235 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: twenty six class. 236 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna. 237 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: Throw out different traits. You gotta give me a different 238 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: name for each of these traits. 239 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Most powerful. 240 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: Ruby Bain. 241 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: I think ruben Bain is the most powerful all around. 242 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Is between him and Keldric Falk from Auburn as well. 243 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: But ruben Bain knows how to be powerful not just 244 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: in run defense but also in pass rush. So I'll 245 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: go ruben Bain. 246 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: I like that. 247 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Which prospect has the most ideal size? 248 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Keldric Falk. I think that's an easy one. I can 249 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: go with Falk there. I mean, Folk is a legit 250 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: six with six two hundred and seventy five pounds almost 251 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: thirty five inch arms, and so the overall size, the length, 252 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: all of that there for him is what bolsters his 253 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: scouting report. So I'll go Fulk there. 254 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: Every edge needs explosiveness and speed. Are we going down 255 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: to Texas for this one? 256 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: I think we all we're going. We're going to Texas 257 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: Tech for David Bailey. It's hard for me to not 258 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: pick Bailey here just because it's just some of the 259 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: freakish first step reps that he has had, not just 260 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: this past year at Texas Tech, but also at Stanford. 261 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: It's I don't I don't think he has the best 262 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: bend in the class. But in terms of that explosiveness, 263 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: that first step explosiveness off the ball, I don't think 264 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: there's anybody better than him. 265 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: Man, you're good. That's a great transition. How about the 266 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: best bend in this class? 267 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: Man? 268 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Who does have the best bend in this class? Man? 269 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: I might go, I might go like a little bit, 270 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: like a little bit lower than This's like, I think 271 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: a key messador has got some great bend. I think 272 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: mal Kay Lawrence has some really nice bend out of 273 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: UCF as well. Rvel Reeves, Man, he could dip his 274 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: shoulder pretty well. I'll uh, I'll go a key I'll 275 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: go a key messador though. I'm such a big fan 276 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: of a key messador and just the way that he 277 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: can dip his body and get around all sorts of 278 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. I'll take a key messador here for bend. 279 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: They say at the college level, sometimes an out athlete guys, 280 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: but we know on Sundays you gotta have counters. 281 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: Who's got the best technique in this group? 282 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Uh, it's honestly, it's I think it's bane or it's 283 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: a Key Messador, and the reason why is because the 284 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Jason Taylor has been coaching these guys 285 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: for the last three years and these two players are 286 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: the most polished pass rushers in the class there. That's 287 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: why they are my number one and number two edge 288 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: rushers to have this year. I'll go with Messador. Actually, 289 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: I will take Messador in this one because the relentlessness, 290 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: the motor that he has, the overall length that he 291 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: brings to the table as well. I think that he's 292 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: got the pass first moves, but I also think that 293 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: he's got some really good counters to get off of 294 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: blocks and continue his rushes. 295 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: All Right, that was really good. That would be an 296 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: outstanding prospect. I have a follow up about ruben Bain. Yes, 297 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: how do you assess the measurables in terms of his arms? 298 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a great question, right, And I think 299 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about ruben Bain's arm length. Then, 300 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I understand why there's the concerns, 301 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: but I don't think the people are being fair to 302 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: the whole conversation, or I should say the context of 303 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: ruben Bay's arm length concerns. Yes, sub thirty one inch 304 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: arms is not ideal for the position when you're going 305 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: one on one against offensive tackles, especially ones at the 306 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: NFL level. These are guys who ultimately have really good 307 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: physical gifts, really great length, and they're able to utilize 308 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: those long arms in a lot of different ways. With 309 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: rubin Bain, when it comes to the negatives of that, 310 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the biggest negatives would be do you win with length 311 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: at the college level, because if you do, then you're 312 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: probably not going to be able to win with similar 313 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: length at the NFL level if you have those lower measurables. 314 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: But Rubenbain doesn't really win with length's you know, he's 315 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: not trying to long arm people all the time. He's 316 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: not trying to his pass rush plan, his run defense 317 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: plan isn't really predicated off of leverage the arm length. 318 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: It's leverage via pad level and be a lower body strength. 319 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: So I'm not really worried about it there. And then 320 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: also you get worried about arm length when it comes 321 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: to getting off of blocks, well, ruben Bain again doesn't 322 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: really go through block deconstruction from a length standpoint. In fact, 323 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: it is more of that smaller size and leverage point 324 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: of getting off of those blocks. When you see ruben 325 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: Bain get locked up with these offensive tackles, let's say 326 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: they actually get some hands on them, whether it's inside 327 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: or right by the shoulders or whatever. The way that 328 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: Bain gets off those guys is he gets a little 329 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: bit lower, he loads up his quads, and then he 330 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: hooks his arm around the offensive tackles for that famous 331 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: Reggie White hump move where he then lifts those guys 332 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: up and throws them over. That's how he gets off blocks. 333 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: You don't need to have long arms to be able 334 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: to do that, and in fact, I'd almost tell you 335 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: that shorter arms might be better for doing something like that. 336 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: So yes, to be a bigger and longer player at 337 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: the NFL level in a vacuum is usually what you want. 338 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: But the full context of who ruben Bain is as 339 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: a player. Will he have some reps that he loses 340 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have that length. Yes, But I think 341 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: the success levels and the highs the ceiling with ruben 342 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Bain still exist at the NFL level even with those 343 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: shorter arms. 344 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: That's out standing analysis. 345 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: I like production, and ruben Bain was awfully productive on 346 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: Saturdays I think he's going to continue to be productive 347 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Let's get to some fan questions. 348 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: You know, Jet's Nation is so pumped about the draft. 349 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: Driver Kyle writes in what are your thoughts on where 350 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: Ty Simpson might fall? I keep hearing teams love him 351 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: enough to take a mid round one while others say 352 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: teams see him falling out of round one. 353 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Entirely, I think he is going to be in that 354 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: round one range, you know. I think that things start 355 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: to get real interesting there at twenty one with the 356 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. But I think I think there's a lot 357 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: of other teams that also maybe back end of the 358 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: first round, early part of the second round, who would 359 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: be willing to jump back in to go get him 360 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: like what we've seen many years. But Jackson Dart's the 361 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: most recent example with the Giants doing that last year. 362 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: So I just have a hard time thinking that Simpson 363 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: gets out of round one. Given how much potential he 364 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: has and how much people might trust again him between 365 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: the ears, and how he is going to progress at 366 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: the NFL level, I think he's going to be a 367 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: back end of the first round type of a prospect. 368 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, people might have not sleeping on the safety class, 369 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: but I don't think they are anymore. Andrews's best second 370 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: round safety. 371 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: Fit for the Jets. 372 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: AJ Halsey's the first name that comes to my mind. 373 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite safeties in this draft. He's 374 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: got legit sized around two hundred and twenty pounds, which 375 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: is kind of becoming a rarity with secondary players, specifically 376 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: at safety. Safeties used to be built a lot closer 377 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: to you know, anywhere from two point fifteen to twenty 378 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: five in the old days in the NFL, But now 379 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: there are guys who are a lot smaller and a 380 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: lot faster, So you get a lot of these safeties 381 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: that are anywhere between like one ninety five and two 382 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: ten honestly now. But Halsey's the legit two one hundred 383 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and twenty pounds. He can he can lay the lumber 384 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: when he's when he's lower on the shoulder and really 385 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: brings some hit power to what he's doing over with 386 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers over the middle of the field, and then 387 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: he's a great ballhawk. 388 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: Two. 389 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: Does he have the best range as a true single 390 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: high like cover one safety. No, it's not the best 391 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: in this class, but I still think he's a really 392 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: good athlete, and specifically in those roles where you allow 393 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: him to be a little bit more downhill, you allow 394 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: him to be in those robber rolls over the middle 395 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: of the field. Those rat roles cover one roles where 396 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: he's sort of the safety that's kind of coming downhill, 397 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: playing a little bit closer to the second level. He 398 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: is somebody who I think could really be a great 399 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: tone setter for you and somebody who could patrol and 400 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: own that middle of the field. 401 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets need takeaways, and that's a guy who 402 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: got it done at LSU, no doubt about that. 403 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: To Nick, his nickname was mister give me that, by 404 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: the way, because of because of those takeaway skills. 405 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: I love it. Uh. 406 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: Della asked, would Trevor trade number thirty three or forty 407 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: four and that second round for a veteran wide out 408 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: instead of actually drafting one. 409 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Ooh, I don't think I would. I don't. I don't 410 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: think that I would. It kind of depends on who's available. 411 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Of course, that's the ultimate cop out that you know, 412 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: I love to use when it comes to such hypothetical situations. 413 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: But you know, if the right one maybe becomes available, 414 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: you can think about it. However, I do feel as 415 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: though the Jets are a team that is building and 416 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: and and with that, you know, you feel like it's 417 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: a couple. You know, it's a year, two years, whatever 418 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: it is before you really start to get into that 419 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: sprint of having that winning window. And I think that 420 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: you would, as as Garrett Wilson is, you know, getting 421 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: through his rookie contract, you would kind of want another 422 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: player next to him. That's that you would love to 423 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: get that is a wide receiver one or two caliber 424 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: difference making player, but you get to keep them on 425 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: more of a cost controlled thing. So I think that 426 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: the Jets obviously really have to figure out the quarterback 427 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: position first. If they had quarterback figured out, I might 428 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: be more in on that, given okay, let's go get 429 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: a proven guy out there. But until they really get 430 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: to that point, I'm under the impression that this is 431 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: still very much a build from the foundation, build from 432 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: the draft type of thing. So all kind of depends 433 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: on the context there. But I think I would lean 434 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: that I would not do that for a veteran wide receiver. 435 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, lastly, Alex had two questions, but I'll just get 436 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: to the second one some guys later in a draft 437 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: that might fit with what the Jets are trying to 438 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: do at the quarterback spot later in the draft. 439 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: So I talked about Garrett us Meyer, right, Garrett u 440 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: s Meyer, I think is one of those guys who 441 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you would consider maybe a little bit later outside of 442 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: the top fifty. And then I think the two prospects 443 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: that probably stand out to me the most would be, 444 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: are you taking a chance on a guy like Drew 445 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Aller just because he's got a lot of physical tools 446 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: and the junior year from him at Penn State was 447 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: pretty impressive and I thought very highly of him. I 448 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: think he was my QB two going into the season 449 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: because he had a really nice year the previous year 450 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, well, if that's the building block 451 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: and if we're only going to get better from that 452 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: junior year going into his senior year, I feel pretty 453 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: good about Drew Aller. But he didn't play as well. 454 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Penn State didn't play as well just overall as a team, 455 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: and I think that his stock is more of that 456 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: of an early Day three type of a pick. But 457 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of really great tools. And then 458 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: Kate Klubnick, I think has shown over the last three 459 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: seasons that he's got what it takes to be a 460 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: pretty good game manager. He could be a good point 461 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: guard of a quarterback for you, sort of that West 462 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: Coast offense where you're just methodically marching things down the 463 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: field a little bit more. Reading safeties and respecting the 464 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: speed of safeties was an issue for him specifically this 465 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: past season. That only gets more difficult as the safeties 466 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: get more athletically talented at the NFL level. But I 467 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: think those are maybe the two quarterbacks that would probably 468 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: be next for me outside of Nuss Smeyer, who you'd 469 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: have to pick a little bit earlier. 470 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: You are the co hosts of a very popular draft 471 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: podcast alongside Connor Rogers named NFL Exchange. Here we like 472 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: to call it wheels up, wheels down. So whose stock 473 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: might be dropping? I'm gonna flip the script a little bit. 474 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk about wheels down right now. Give me two prospects. 475 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: So there, this is a player that I feel just 476 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: had some missed opportunities, and that is Peter Woods from Clemson. 477 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: And see somebody that I know has been mocked to 478 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: the Jets at sixteen. I know I've seen him in 479 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: mock drafts before, just because hey, the need for a 480 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Now we'll see sort of what that need 481 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: and the priority of it is with Devandre Sweat on 482 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: the team. But I thought it was a missed opportunity 483 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: for Peter Woods. I really did. Where he shows up 484 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: with smaller arms, which we kind of expected. You can 485 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of see that in how he plays, and so 486 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: the langs not ideal there for him. But then he 487 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: shows up at sub three hundred pounds. He showed up 488 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 1: at two one hundred and ninety eight pounds from the combine, 489 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: and he didn't test. It's come on, if you're gonna 490 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: show a up bit less than three hundred pounds, you 491 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: gotta test. I need you to fly, especially after a 492 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: down year where people are questioning your overall athletic abilities. 493 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I needed to see him remind everybody that he's a 494 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: good athlete, because I still think that of his tape. 495 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: But this was a major, major missed opportunity for him 496 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: as somebody who I felt like should be in the 497 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: first round conversation given his talent. But man, I was 498 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: disappointed with his combine and I feel like it was 499 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity there for him, as for somebody else 500 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: who was more of a stock down type of a player. 501 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: Let me ask you. I'm gonna interjact right here. 502 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: Let me ask him about Malachai Fields because a lot 503 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: of people liked his senior ball and then there are 504 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: people now knocking him for the four six' one In, 505 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: indy but last season At Notre dame he's averaging seventeen 506 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: point five yards of. 507 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Reception, yeah so this is a good. One this is 508 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: a good one to point out BECAUSE i think it's 509 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: important to talk about the context when it comes To Malachai. 510 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: FIELDS i thought That Malchai fields was a really nice 511 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: top one hundred type of a wide, receiver especially after 512 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: WHAT i saw in person at The Senior. BOWL i felt, like, 513 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: hey somewhere in the eighties nineties would be a really 514 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: good spot to get a wide receiver like this who's 515 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: good and contested catch. Situations you mentioned really high average 516 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: depth of target was used as a vertical type of. 517 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: Receiver but then, man after That Senior bowl, PERFORMANCE i 518 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: saw some people sneak him into the back end of 519 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: the first round. Conversations that's always been really rich to 520 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 1: me because even though there were flashes of him as 521 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: a straight line, athlete it was never consistent with. Him 522 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: and SO i think that by with him running the 523 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: forty yard, dash of what he did that was disappointing 524 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: for a lot of, people BUT i kind of felt 525 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: as though it was telling the story of What i've 526 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: seen all along from his, tape not just this past, 527 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: year but also going back to his time At. Virginia 528 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: and when you look at his average depth of target 529 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: being over seventeen yards per, catch yes they're utilizing him 530 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: as a deep threat, receiver but it's much more so 531 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: him getting vertical and then settling for those contested catch. 532 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: Opportunities now he's a great has to catch, receiver so 533 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: he's coming down with those, catches and obviously that's why 534 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: the average chef of the target is. Up but he's 535 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: one WHO i think relative to where the high train was, 536 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: going he's a bit of a faller because that forty 537 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: yard dash brings him back To i'll, say like brings 538 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: him back down to, Earth but to be honest with, 539 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: you brought him back down towards WHERE i actually felt 540 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: as though he should have been valued as a prospect all. 541 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: Along so this is still a good football, player somebody 542 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: who can help out an, offense even from a vertical, 543 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: stent a vertical. Sense but you're not thinking about this 544 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: guy at the back end of the first round anymore 545 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: after what he did In indianapolis's past. 546 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: Week All, right we're gonna transition out to wheels, Up Sonny. 547 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: Styles we started the show talking about. Him he's already 548 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: at fifty thousand feet right, now cruising. Altitude he's got 549 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 2: the turbo jets. On, So sonny, aside how about some 550 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: guys who's stock is. 551 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: Rising, Yeah so there's a handful of guys THAT i 552 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: think really really helped themselves last. Week the first one 553 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Is Jacob rodery as the linebacker From Texas. Tech this 554 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: is one of the best linebackers in all of college. 555 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Football this past, season had the highest overall defensive grade 556 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: of any power for linebacker that we have ever recorded 557 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: in a single season AT. Pff elite coverage, grades elite 558 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: run defense, grades low miss, tackles low miss tackle, percentage 559 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: thirteen career force, fumbles six career. INTERCEPTIONS i, mean he 560 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: was all over the, place and the way that he 561 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: played in coverage at The Senior bowl was also really 562 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: impressive because it was so smart how he was angling 563 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: certain option routes to make it so these receivers and 564 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: tight ends and running backs actually didn't have. Options it 565 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: was just one direction that they were going to be 566 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: able to go because of how he angled. Himself. Right 567 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: think about in, basketball when you know somebody's got a 568 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: strong hand and a, weekend and you position yourself in 569 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: a way where you make them dribble or their. Weekend 570 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: that's essentially What Jacob rodriguez was doing in coverage to 571 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of these running backs and tight ends that 572 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: he was going up against to The Senior. Bowl so 573 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: he wins so much WITH iq and how smart he, 574 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: is but the question mark is is he enough to 575 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: still be able to do that at THE nfl. Level 576 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: he tested almost identically to the way That Luke keighley 577 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: tested many years. Ago, Now keithley went ten, Overall Jacob 578 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: rodriguez isn't going to go ten overall because he was 579 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger when he was doing. That BUT 580 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: i Think Jacob rodriguez in that first round, CONVERSATION i 581 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: think the same Of Omar Cooper, junior the wide receiver From, 582 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: indiana because he's the same. Thing really solid overall scouting 583 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: report eighty six point zero receiving grade this past, season 584 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: really high yards per route. Run sometimes played second fiddle 585 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: To Elijah surrat a little, bit but as that season went, 586 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: on he continued to play his best against some of 587 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: the best competition in all of college. Football he's got 588 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: the release, packages he knows how to create. Separation but, 589 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: again was he a good enough? Athlete AND i think 590 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: with his four four two forty yard dashed around two 591 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: hundred pounds and his thirty seven inch vertical, jump, yes, 592 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: absolutely he is athletic enough to be a really really 593 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: good wide receiver, two and maybe even wide receiver one 594 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: in some games in some. Situations so those are two 595 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: guys WHO i think made themselves some money and got 596 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: into the first round. Conversation all, right. 597 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna throw you the virtual whiteboard right now you 598 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: are in The jets draft. 599 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: Room who's your red star? 600 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: Guy who's the prospect that The jets have to select 601 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 2: in this? 602 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: DRAFT i think it might Be Sonny, styles LIKE i really. Do, 603 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: again LIKE i. CAN'T i can't compare a guy To 604 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Fred warner and then at number two, overall be like, yeah, 605 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: nah this is freaking address you, Steat, like IF i 606 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: honestly think that this guy Has Fred warner, potential it's 607 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: so hard for me to not select him Because Fred 608 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: warner goes in the third round of his own. DRAFT i, 609 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: mean you do a redraft of that. ONE i don't 610 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: know every pick of that draft class off the top 611 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: of my, head but hard to believe That Fred warner 612 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: gets out of the top. Three AND i, think, again 613 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: we could be having the same conversation With Sony. Styles 614 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: so he is somebody THAT i think is sort of 615 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: that red star type of a player for, me somebody 616 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: THAT i really really love in this. CLASS i, Mean 617 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Caleb downs is somebody WHO i think is very similar 618 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: in that regard WHERE i would JUST i think he 619 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: is a total difference maker it basically. Everywhere he is 620 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: somebody WHO i think IS i really do believe he's 621 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: can't miss because of the type of tape that he 622 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: put out there over the last three. YEARS i, mean 623 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: he started as a true safety For Nick. Saban who does? 624 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: That who starts as a freshman For Nick? Saban? Nobody 625 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: so the list is single. Digit you probably count him 626 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: on one. Hand the amount of guys they were able 627 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: to do, that And Caleb downs is one of. Them 628 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: so those Too Ohio state guys probably the Red. Star 629 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: gotta have him if you have the opportunity to get 630 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: them type of players. 631 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: And his time For Trevor sikama's two Round jets mock, 632 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: draft the Granted white have two selections in round, one 633 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: appairent round. Two four selections in the top forty four. Overall, 634 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: trevor let's start with number. 635 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: TWO i would Take Sonny styles. Here IF i was 636 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: making the, CALL i would Take Sony. Styles come off 637 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: the conversation that we just said, THERE i think he 638 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: totally changes everything that you were doing from a defensive per. 639 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Perspective he makes everyone around him. Better he allows you 640 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: to change your, scheme be more versatile with what you're. 641 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: Doing i'm gonna Take i'm gonna Take i'm gonna Take Sonny. 642 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: Styles and that's a big time curveball because you took 643 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: Vll Reese actually on the, pod how about number sixteen 644 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: overall for The. 645 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: Jets, Yeah so when we were doing, that when we 646 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: were doing the, podcast that was a little bit more 647 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: of a predictive WHAT i kind of think will. Happen 648 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: but if we're doing a sort of WHAT i would do. 649 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: Here Sonny styles would have been my guy. There McKayle 650 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: lemon is my guy at. Sixteen if he is on 651 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: the board there at number. SIXTEEN i think this is 652 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: the perfect compliment to A Garrett. Wilson it allows you 653 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: to Use Garrett wilson and basically any way you want. 654 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: To because of how versatile and how reliable MacKaye lemon. 655 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Is he can be that player who is is consistently 656 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: allowing you to get those catches on third down to 657 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: move the, chains While Garrett wilson can open things up 658 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: a little bit deeper down the, field maybe like his 659 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: former Teammatee Ohio State chris o'lave does quite a bit 660 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: now with The New Orleans. SAINTS i can think of 661 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: A grete one two combination. There i'd love to get 662 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: a receiver at some point. Here AND i like the 663 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: idea of Picking Makaya lemon here at number. 664 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: Sixteen, trevor you have the first pick in round, two 665 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: number thirty. 666 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: Three, Overall, yeah this is this is a fun. One 667 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: like if they have the opportunity to take like An 668 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: emmanuel McNeil warren at, safety LIKE i think about him 669 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: at thirty. THREE i, mean he could very well be 670 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: a first round. Pick but, MAN i JUST i think 671 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: THAT i go to safety LIKE i go to safety 672 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: in my mind because this safety class is so. Good 673 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: emmanuel McNeil, WARREN Aj, halsey those are the two players 674 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: THAT i think. About but let's just Say emmanuel McNeil. 675 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: Warren let's say that he gets somewhere around this. Range 676 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: they can get a difference making safety on the back. 677 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: End somebody who really really knows how to do a 678 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: lot of different things for. Him he could play in the, 679 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: box he could play cover one for. You he's all 680 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: over the. Place let's. Go let's go With emmanuel McNeil 681 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: warren here. 682 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: And, lastly eleven picks, later number forty four overall. 683 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: Forty four, Overall i'm gonna go with because we have 684 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: not taken a true edge rusher. Yet we went sunny styles, 685 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: too we Went Mkayle lemon at, Sixteen emmanuel McNeil warren 686 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: at thirty. Three i'm going to go With Malachai, lawrence 687 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: the edge rusher FROM ucf here at number forty. Four 688 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: his performance of the COMBINE i think puts him into 689 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: this mid to late second round conversation at an elite 690 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: pass rush grade this past season AT, UCF a really 691 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: deep pass rush bag from. Him he is somebody WHO 692 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: i think wins very well with speed forty inch vertical, 693 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: jump ten foot ten inch broad. JUMP i, mean the 694 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: explosive this is there for. Him the length is there 695 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: for him as, well with over thirty three inch. Arms 696 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: he is somebody WHO i think gives you that speed 697 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: profile as an edge rusher that they could feel good. 698 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: About so that's How i'm rounding this one. OUT i 699 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get out of here without drafting an edge, rusher 700 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: BUT i think they get a really good one if 701 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: they're taking him at forty. 702 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: Four you can. 703 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: Follow him At Tampa Bay Trey Trevor. Sigimall you can 704 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: read him At Pro Football, focus and, lastly subscribe to 705 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: that pod as WELL Nfl Stock Stock Exchange. Podcast, man 706 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: you're doing a great, job awesome analysis. 707 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: TODAY i appreciate, It eric, anytime my. Friend thank, you