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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollly. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt judging from the uh well,

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Speaker 2: some of the replies on that we got on the

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel yesterday and on Twitter as well, people weren't happy.

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Speaker 3: With the show yesterday, Well what the heck for?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Steelers lost.

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Speaker 3: It's probably our fault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you know, no matter what we talked about,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't going to be what everybody wants. That's just

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Speaker 2: the way it always goes. And I understand that that

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Speaker 2: guy goes along with the job. Reading comments is a

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Speaker 2: dangerous business, but that's what I do. And yeah, I

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Speaker 2: do reply, and again most are favorable. I don't mind

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Speaker 2: if you if you're if you're being critical, whatever, I

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Speaker 2: don't care. As long as you're right about something, and

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Speaker 2: as long as, like, when I know you're not right

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Speaker 2: about something, if I'm wrong about something, I'll okay, I'll

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Speaker 2: admit it and move on and you know whatever. But

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Speaker 2: when I present facts to people about stuff from players

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Speaker 2: and they don't want to admit that that still was

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Speaker 2: the case. I don't get we've we've turned this whole

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields versus Russell Wilson thing into it's almost like

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's almost like it's the election.

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Speaker 3: The election. You have to choose one or the other. Right,

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Speaker 3: you can never go back.

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Speaker 2: We can be critical of how Justin Justin Field's performed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he played well. He did ninety percent of what

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Speaker 2: he did in that game on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Was good, was real good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there were some things that weren't and those

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Speaker 2: helped lead to the lost and that he was not

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Speaker 2: the main reason they lost. The defense allowing a seventeen

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Speaker 2: seventeen points and basically the first quarter was the reason

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Speaker 2: they lost this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Pat Mahomes isn't playing very well. No,

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Speaker 3: you're allowed to say that. I mean, he's the best

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Speaker 3: player on the planet. He's abot player I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: He's not playing very well, and there's ways you can

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Speaker 3: criticize his game, let alone Justin Fields. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: we are more.

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Speaker 2: Need to be analysts, and if if I'm not critical

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Speaker 2: of the mistakes in these situations, I'm not doing my job.

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Speaker 2: He's not doing your job.

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Speaker 3: And I respect fans to no end, and I remember

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Speaker 3: those days, and sometimes I miss those days where you

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Speaker 3: just cheer for a player, you know, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: And they every every listener and every fan has that right.

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Speaker 3: You know, they can look up to these people and

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Speaker 3: cheer for them. That's great, and that's part of what

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Speaker 3: makes sports awesome. But that doesn't mean that they walk

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Speaker 3: on water or they don't do anything wrong on or

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Speaker 3: off the field. Especially on is what we care about.

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Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett had some of that, and he went to

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Speaker 3: pit his first round pick. There was a stretch where

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Speaker 3: you said anything bad abou Kenny Pickett. People came at you.

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Speaker 3: Now they can't stand the guy. You know what, he

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Speaker 3: don't hear anymore. He sinks he didn't do anything. He's

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Speaker 3: awful the entire time. And that's the nature of the business.

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Speaker 3: As you said, though, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It was the same kind of thing when I would

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Speaker 2: point out that, you know, well he wins. I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, I remember saying, you know, comparing Justin Herbert

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Speaker 2: does better quarterback stuff, but Pickett wins. Yeah, And people

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Speaker 2: took that to mean that I wanted Kenny Pickett over

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, which I did not say. I like, it's

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Speaker 2: a different, different conversation. But it's just people read into

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Speaker 2: whatever they want to hear. And if you say something bad,

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Speaker 2: it but well, you must hate.

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Speaker 3: Him, you must sat him, you have.

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Speaker 2: A right and as you can, you can back me

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Speaker 2: up on this. In the draft process, I loved him.

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Speaker 2: I had him ranked ahead of Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Lawrence number one quarterback and a really good quarterback draft,

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Speaker 3: well what was perceived as a good quarterback draft at

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Speaker 2: I don't hate Justin Fields at all, not at all.

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Speaker 3: We're hoping he does great. He turns into the next Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: Be fantastic, but he does have some issues. The issue,

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Speaker 2: the biggest issue with Justin Fields right now, and it

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Speaker 2: hasn't mattered who who the center has been. Oh right,

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Speaker 2: They've had multiple issues with quarterback center exchanges.

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Speaker 3: The most basic of things that on a football field.

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Speaker 2: And it's happened with her Big and it's now happened

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Speaker 2: so that hasn't happened when the other quarterbacks have been.

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Speaker 3: In there, and this last one was clearly his fault.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you know how the procedure works, it

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Speaker 3: was clearly his fault.

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Speaker 2: And he admitted as such. He can't admit, oh no,

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Speaker 2: he's just taking one for the team. They're no, he's

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Speaker 2: His explanation was exactly what happened exactly, and there's something

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Speaker 3: It, and people be like, he just blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: Well that does happen in sports. We know that, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like Jayden Daniels is funny to me because anything goes wrong,

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Speaker 3: leadership school, one on one or whatever. You know, that's

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Speaker 3: where but it in this case, and frankly, quarterback center

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Speaker 3: exchange can be both fault, it can be neither. It

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Speaker 3: we'll never know. But in a situation like that, it's

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Speaker 3: pretty obvious if you understand the procedures and its field, all.

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Speaker 2: The people involved after the game, after the game, and

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Speaker 2: that needs cleaned up. I mean, there's no doubt that's

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Speaker 2: a fact that needs cleaned up. You can't it's something

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Speaker 3: Like for example, him stepping or getting stepped on or

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Speaker 3: stepped on the lineman's foot who was pulling. That's probably

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Speaker 3: on him, but I'm not going to crush him for it.

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Speaker 3: If people if he get tangled all the time.

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 3: But you know that's where the lie. If you know

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Speaker 3: the play, that guard or center is taking a step

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Speaker 2: You know, the early ones in in the preseason. If

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Speaker 2: you know that the center is going to the right,

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Speaker 2: you got to adjust your.

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Speaker 3: Where you're to be on top of that right.

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Speaker 2: And and some of that with with Fields is just

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Speaker 2: because he didn't work under center a lot. He just

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Speaker 3: Rookie center until the obvious point fingers at a rookie center.

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Speaker 2: But you know a lot of quarterbacks coming out of

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Speaker 3: Some have never done it period.

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Speaker 2: And even in the NFL, there's a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: And it's somewhat of a lost art saying with play

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Speaker 3: action and your footwork with play action and taking the

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Speaker 3: all these things that people take for granted, like it pitch.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was crazy. But even on our practice

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Speaker 3: report QB Center exchange was first. There was three minutes

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Speaker 3: every day every.

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Speaker 2: Day do the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you go out there and I'm like, man, you

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Speaker 3: really got to practice this wasting.

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Speaker 2: It starts every offensive play.

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Speaker 3: It screws.

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Speaker 2: And it's not archer that can't throw strikes. If you

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Speaker 3: It's almost like if you can't walk out through the mound,

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Speaker 2: And that's not I'm not saying Russell that you know

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Speaker 2: that Justin Fields hasn't played well exactly. They're three and one.

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Speaker 3: You know, if it's and Russ has botched the exchange,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure in his career two, but this has been

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Speaker 3: a recurring issue. Yeah, it's something needs addressed.

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Speaker 2: And you know the fact that you know, we're four

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Speaker 2: Is troublesome to me.

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Speaker 3: Troublesome. Yeah, and it happened at it awful time that

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Speaker 3: may have cost him the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guarantee you it's troublesome to Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: as well when he talked about the sloppiness after the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's troublesome to justin and without a downer

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Speaker 3: and everybody, right, he's fixed.

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Speaker 2: They got to get these things worked out, you know

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Speaker 2: that being said, I mean, the guy's completing seventy percent

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Speaker 2: reason why they're you think he keeps getting better. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is the best thing about it. And hey, that's

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Speaker 2: allowed that once or twice on this show. Guys are

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: That was the whole thing. When you know, when you

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Speaker 2: couldn't have been. We've seen twenty five touchdown passes in

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson isn't running those those two balls. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's not scoring on those rushing touchdowns, no, because he

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Speaker 2: would throw the ball into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which who knows If I know, we're in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: And we've only seen twenty five touchdown passes in the

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Speaker 2: last two seasons, but you are allowed to throw the

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Speaker 2: ball into the end.

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Speaker 3: Zone one hundred percent. And boy did I say that

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Speaker 3: a million times this offseason. It's like, and I still

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Speaker 3: believe it, even though Wilson doesn't see the field once,

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Speaker 3: that the touch passing touchdowns are going to spike this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not gonna be twelve or thirteen or

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Speaker 3: seventeen games. But Wilson has always thrown a lot of touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Pass twenty red zone touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it has for his whole career. He's been

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Speaker 3: an excellent red zone guy. He's been a heavy touchdown

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Speaker 3: works too. Yeah. If he is out there quarterback and

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, is he throwing in the middle field

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Speaker 3: or why do you take the sack? You know, he

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Speaker 3: has words as well.

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Speaker 2: It's part of evaluating and assessing what happened in a

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Speaker 2: game and after a loss, everybody is always up in

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Speaker 2: arms these things.

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Speaker 3: They're mad and they want to blame people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they get mad at us because we have

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a venue to do so and get that.

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Speaker 3: And hey, we can be critical players and fans can

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Speaker 3: be critical of us. That's fine. It's part of the

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Speaker 3: deal if you're a public figure. That's the way it works.

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Speaker 3: And I don't get anything right either. You know, I

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Speaker 3: screw up a center exchange from time to time. I

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Speaker 3: couldn't even add the other day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. And hey, our DFS line up the

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Speaker 3: Is not done. We have been.

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Speaker 2: So we had Mike Tomlin press conference today and he'd

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Speaker 2: said that, well, Russell Wilson went through a strenuous workout

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Speaker 2: I don't know you mentioned you mentioned the play action

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Speaker 3: I don't remember a lot of play action bomb shots down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they end up kicking five field goals.

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Speaker 3: No, and Laurence and Parson are good run defenders. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt Now, I'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt you talked about. Steelers had

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Speaker 2: many roster moves yet, well they just did, just did eh.

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Speaker 2: They have signed guard Max Sharping to the active roster

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Speaker 3: He's been the league for a little while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's made the thirty three starts in his career.

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Speaker 2: They signed linebacker Yuku Liota and running back Limichael p

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Speaker 2: Sharping would take that spot. But then they also released

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Speaker 2: safety Jalen Elliott in cornerback Darius Rush, leading me to

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Speaker 2: believe they're ready to bring Moon and Cook Cook back

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Speaker 2: trade for Devonte Adams, which is what we're going to

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Speaker 3: I didn't know even know that. How about that?

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Speaker 2: How about that? So so most a couple of receivers

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Speaker 2: you know, yeah, last weekend, Devonte Adams was inactive because

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Speaker 3: And there's been rumblings he hasn't been happy there for

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Speaker 2: And so somebody tweeted out about Devanta Adams that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not usual, Like I don't think Belichick was

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Speaker 2: No, So this morning, Davante Adams was on with Kay

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Speaker 2: what exactly the name up in Adams. Of course Kay

441
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,400
Speaker 2: used to work there, you go Adams and Adams, and

442
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 2: that went right over my head.

443
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was an easy one.

444
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 2: And she was asking him about that. Let's hear what

445
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 2: he had to say, because this is interesting.

446
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 5: So this big story happens where they think your coach

447
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 5: or your coach did I actually don't know likes this

448
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 5: post about you getting traded when you heard of that,

449
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 5: I guess my first question is how quickly? How soon

450
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 5: did you hear from coach?

451
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'n't. I haven't heard from him. I'ven't.

452
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 4: I haven't talked to him, So I've been uh, yeah,

453
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't really know exactly what I

454
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 4: was about. Obviously I got you know, social media as

455
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 4: a beast. So it's a lot of people out there

456
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 4: that that saw it and you know, wondering what's going

457
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 4: on and people reaching out and yeah, I haven't.

458
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 2: I haven't spoke to him.

459
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 5: I'm surprised by that. I would think Keith hate I

460
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 5: would that's uh, okay, well, I would think he. I mean,

461
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 5: you work together every day, so that I would say, Oh, shoot,

462
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 5: I accidentally hit that. I unliked it. Now it's this

463
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 5: huge story. Is that just kind of like what the

464
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 5: dynamic is. That's not something that you would you.

465
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: Want to hear from him, Honestly, it's it's hard to

466
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: comment on. I'm sure you would you would imagine uh

467
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: as such, but it's it's one of those situations where

468
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 4: I just keep my head down and keep doing my

469
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: thing and uh, you know, let the let the chips

470
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 4: fall what they make is as it pertains to that,

471
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 4: but I haven't. Yeah, there's been no communication with anybody

472
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,479
Speaker 4: from the team since since then became a thing. But

473
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of just like the weekly it's

474
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 4: up with Tay thing. You know, there's always some some

475
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: sort of drama, but at the end of the day,

476
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 4: one seven doesn't create any of it. So people can

477
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 4: say that they want But I'm just chilling, trying to

478
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 4: be the model for you know, not stirring the pot

479
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 4: and just just locking in and doing what I gotta do.

480
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: Hasn't heard from head coach Antonio Pierce odd strange, very strange.

481
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: Later in the day today, there was a tweet from

482
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 2: a reporter who covers the the Raiders that they are

483
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: calling teams, actively calling teams, gauging their interest in DeVante

484
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: Adams like he must go he's got Yeah, here's the thing, So,

485
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: Davante Adams base salary this year is little Harry sixteen

486
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: point eight nine million. Now we're four weeks into this thing,

487
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 2: so essentially you're knocking off a million dollars a week,

488
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: give or take. So now you could get Davonte Adams

489
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 2: for twelve million, twelve thirteen million dollars for the rest

490
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: of the season the year.

491
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: I know he's a big cap hit to them, but

492
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: they don't apparently care. And that's not really our problem,

493
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 3: to be honest with you.

494
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, they've got they've got an out out. He's

495
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 2: he's not going to play for the Raiders after this season,

496
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: one way or the other. His base salary next year

497
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: is thirty five point six million, that's the base is

498
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: His camp hit is forty four million. Yeah, he's not

499
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: going to be a Raider one way or the other

500
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: after this season. He knows it. He knows that they know,

501
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: the team knows it. He wants to win.

502
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 3: He had and they're not winning anything this year. I

503
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 3: think they know that too. I mean, they're gonna do

504
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 3: everything possible to get a quarterback. Like if you're in

505
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at it through their eyes. You know,

506
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: he's up in age, you know, he's thirty two years old.

507
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 3: Let's get picks for him. Let's rebuild this thing. We

508
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: just drafted a tight end that's really promising. Myers is

509
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: a decent receiver. Receivers are always available in the draft.

510
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: You know, we'll get one minute, Day two or whatever,

511
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: and let's get the best offer we can get for him,

512
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 3: you know, and I would think there's several teams interested.

513
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: What would you give up for DeVante Adams knowing that

514
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 2: it's probably a one not even a full year rental? Yeah,

515
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: that's that. That's where it gets, Harry.

516
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: Do you know the answer to this question? And if not,

517
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 3: I apologize, But they don't negotiate contracts during the season.

518
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: But would they for someone that's not on the team,

519
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, to transfer him and put a year or

520
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: two on the end of it.

521
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: That's something I don't know because they've never really done this.

522
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 3: That happened. Minka wasn't a free agent to be he

523
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: had four years left on his deal. And sometimes they've

524
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 3: made small deals where it's for a backup corner or something.

525
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: It's not an or someone right right, right, and that

526
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't even matter.

527
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: But there's nothing. It's because he's under contract beyond this season.

528
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 2: Could franchise him, Yeah, there's well, no, he's he's under

529
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: the ear but you don't. He's he's still under contract.

530
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: Now you could go to you could go to him

531
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: and say, hey, DeVante, if we don't do something with this,

532
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: we're not going to pay. We can't pay thirty five

533
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: point six million dollars that's what he's doing yea, and

534
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: over the next two seasons.

535
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: And there's an out though, because like the Raiders aren't

536
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: gonna pay him.

537
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: The potential out is it would be for the Raiders

538
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: it would have been a three year, sixty seven point

539
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: seven five million dollar contract, which isn't bad actually with

540
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 2: the fifteen point seven in dead cap space after this year,

541
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: for the Raiders, they could handle that. Yeah, the Steelers, obviously,

542
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the same. If you made that trade,

543
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: you cut him, and if you cut him, you owe

544
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: him nothing. Now you could go to him and say, hey,

545
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: maybe he likes it here, and you say, DeVante, we're not.

546
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: We don't think you're a seventy million dollar player over

547
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: the next two seasons. So one thing I want to

548
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: give you, We'll give you fifty, We'll give you sixty.

549
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: At his age, I'm sure he's looking for one more

550
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: big payday, yeah, because that's all he's got left, you know.

551
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of cashing out, I mean, I

552
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: don't think it's going to be Saint Brown Ayuk money

553
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: because they're younger. They're coming off Jeor Chase money, Jefferson money.

554
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's far off of that as

555
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 3: a player.

556
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: And to this point, Matt his career and he's made

557
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: a hundred twenty nine point seven million dollars. That's well,

558
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean, and that doesn't count like his Taco Bell money.

559
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Right, He's got Taco Bell in his house apparent according

560
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: to the commercials. Yeah, I mean he also has that too, right, right,

561
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: A lot of the bell he's obviously made a time, Yeah,

562
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: but nobody should fault anybody. Rather he tried to get

563
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: Rossell Wilson at the end of the year or whomever,

564
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: is he still going to have that taco bell commercial

565
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: when he's done playing right right right? Or I mean

566
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna get twenty plus, no question in my mind,

567
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: you know, if he were to hit the open market

568
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: or whoever, even at thirty three. So I'm really interested,

569
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: there's no question. I also think DeAndre Hopkins, Christian Kirk,

570
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: there's some other guy names out there that you could

571
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: pry away from bad team. You know. It's good in

572
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: the point of the season where those that had big

573
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: hopes are quickly realizing hopes are in the toilet, you know,

574
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: and the Raiders Titans, and you just talked about the

575
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: toilet the belt. So one note that we have not

576
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: brought up that I do think is interesting in this

577
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: whole conversation is the Justin Fields trade. Yes, he was

578
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: traded for a six round pick. That's conditional.

579
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: It turns into a fourth round pick if he plays

580
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: fifty the snap, yeah fifty one, Yeah, same difference. I

581
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 2: think there's a pretty good chance. So you're not gonna

582
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: have a fourth round pick next year. I mean it's

583
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: going that direction in a big way. Whether he gets

584
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: becomes the two or not, he's gonna play football going forward.

585
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: And he's already played a big chunk over one hundred

586
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: percent of your snaps. So that's one draft pick. You're

587
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: probably not going to have the six two cares of

588
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: fourth matters. Do you want him to go into next

589
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: draft missing a couple semi premium picks?

590
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: I'm so interested. I mean, there's there's no players I'm offering.

591
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: Are you offering? Are you offering a two?

592
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: I think that's where you start, and I.

593
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: Think that's what the Raiders are gonna want.

594
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: I think that's where you end. I guess is the

595
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: way I put it.

596
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: You know you're not gonna give up. Nobody's giving up.

597
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Nobody is giving up a first round pick.

598
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: No, no, I mean he's gonna be rumored to the Chiefs

599
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: like crazy.

600
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna be rumored to the Jets. I don't know

601
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: that the Raiders and Chiefs make a trade.

602
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

603
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: It's a good point. They can get Hopkins, they can

604
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: get Kirk whatever. Yeah, the Jets make some sense obviously

605
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: the but are they Are they getting getting to the point?

606
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: Did you see Aaron Rodgers basically throw his entire offensive line.

607
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 3: Under the bus?

608
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh? I know, yeah, Like they might look at this

609
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: and go and where's he playing? Who's Like they've already

610
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 2: went out and they signed Mike Williams William and they

611
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: got Wilson, and they already gave Aaron Rodgers one of

612
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: his other Wilbies, like they've given him all the Willbies.

613
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: They're not getting. Yeah, you know, of course, I'm sure

614
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: there's a team I'm not thinking about the top of

615
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: my head that would be very interested. But I think

616
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: the Steelers should be very much in it.

617
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they at the end of the day, they

618
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: might be the only team the Raiders will be willing

619
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 2: to make that deal. They're not going to send him

620
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: to Kansas City.

621
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Not to mention, if the Chiefs said we'll give you

622
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: two and the Steelers said, I give you two, I'll

623
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: take the Steeler two, Yeah, and get him out of

624
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: the division.

625
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Steelers three over the Chiefs two.

626
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: There's not that much of a difference, the grand scheme.

627
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: Of things all that. Yeah, I would do it for three. Yeah,

628
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: a two's I could probably be convinced. But you might

629
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: have to send me a five back or something like that.

630
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: That might be a way. Hey, get we'll give you

631
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: a two, and we'll give you we'll get how about

632
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: a two and a five for Adams in your fourth

633
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: Because you're not gonna have a four because you might

634
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: not have a four, right, right right? Or a three

635
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: this year and a three next year that would be

636
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: more palatable as well, you know, thinking.

637
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't love the idea of keep kicking the can

638
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: down the road in the draft pick world.

639
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: You know, I don't love that either. But if you're

640
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: not going to be super active on the free agent

641
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: market next year, and I don't think that they will be,

642
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: I think they've made a lot of their free agent moves,

643
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: a lot of their own, you know, But you're gonna

644
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: have some guy. Let's let's say Dann More leaves, Well,

645
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: he's going to get a pretty good contract. Let's say

646
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: James Daniels leaves and he recovers and he gets signed

647
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: by somebody, Well, he's probably going to get a pretty

648
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: good contract.

649
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm going to fight you on that. Though they

650
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: have so much cap space, I can't believe the compick

651
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: world's going to treat them well.

652
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 2: But you got to pay your own guys. Yeah, are

653
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: you who are you going? What are you going out

654
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: and buying on the open market at this point? Because

655
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: you're you're gonna have to pay. You're gonna have to

656
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: pay a quarterback, right, two of them. Yeah, you're gonna

657
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: have to. That wouldn't count against your cor right, that

658
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: doesn't count in your compet You're gonna have to pay

659
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: George Pickens. Yeah, you're gonna have to do some of

660
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: this stuff, some of your in house moves that you're

661
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: gonna have guys that you've got to pay. You that's

662
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: gonna eat up that cap space pretty quickly.

663
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. So, I mean, and what are you adding?

664
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: What positions would you.

665
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: Really be in the market the position you'd be in

666
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: the market to ad adds a wide receiver, and if

667
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: you add DeVante Adams via straight you.

668
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, you don't need to do that. Situation be

669
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: done and you hope Roman Wilson and Austin or a

670
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: third round pick next year or whatever fills in the gap. Yeah.

671
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: I was thinking maybe a D lineman. You know, I

672
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: don't know what Ogunjobi's contract status is, but Cam's up there.

673
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just figured they would be spending

674
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: that could be a first round draft pick. It could be,

675
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: it could be I think I like that.

676
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Rather be your first round draft pick. And what's a

677
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: good defense.

678
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: A good defensive line draft, Yeah, com pick stuff aside.

679
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're they're they have a lot of

680
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: financial freedom. I mean they could just say I'm not

681
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: interested in doing this and signed T Higgins next year.

682
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: And but that's your overpaying problem.

683
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, now you're going to pay thirty million

684
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: dollars for T Higgins.

685
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: Because you're competing with five teams, you know what I mean.

686
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: We talked about a We've talked about DeVante Adams acquiring

687
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: him on this show multiple times, and he makes you

688
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: a super Bowl contender. When we talked about that in

689
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: the preseason and we said, yeah, you had Devontae Adams

690
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: to this roster and the Steelers become a super Bowl contender,

691
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: and I think people kind of went, oh, yeah, right, No,

692
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: you're three and one right now, you had DeVante Adams

693
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: to this roster.

694
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: You're a top ten team.

695
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: All the running, all the running that you do on

696
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: first downs, they're averaging two point nine yards per rushing

697
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: play on first down. That's last in the NFL. You're

698
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: not getting loaded boxes with George Pickens and DeVante Adams

699
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: on the field.

700
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: Right and even Friarmouth.

701
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: And it's just not going to happen. The safeties are

702
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: not crashing it.

703
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: If they do, then you check.

704
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: Out of it and you throw the ball.

705
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've ranted some number one corners, but

706
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: then no one has two guys like that. Nobody has, no,

707
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean two guys that can run with those dudes. No,

708
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I mean, that's why I like

709
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: the Ayuk move. I mean, Adams I brought it up

710
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: all along, and frankly, I thought, during this most recent game,

711
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: you're in comeback mode to some degree. Another weapon gone

712
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: a long way, A long way. Yeah, you know, just

713
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: in terms of opening the field for everybody. You know

714
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: you're in a different mode down seventeen before you know it.

715
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: So if the bottom line is next year's two or nothing,

716
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: I mean, where the rubber hits the.

717
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: Road kind of according to the reports you mentioned the

718
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: Ayuk stuff, I think that's what some of I think

719
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: that might have been. The offer for Ayuk was a two. Okay,

720
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: I don't know that for sure.

721
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a lot of these deals are cheaper then

722
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: you think. Yeah.

723
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean then went said, and they wouldn't go age guys,

724
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: they wouldn't go I wouldn't give up a one, but

725
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: they would give.

726
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Up a two. Okay, now you were and then the stuff.

727
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: And then you had to sign on you Well, are

728
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: you going to sign long term? That's the only problem

729
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: I have with this is almost a rental to some

730
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: degree for two that that to me is a little different.

731
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: It's a little different. So I'm not sure why I'm

732
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: not following this. But he's under contract the next two years. Right,

733
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: it's at thirty five.

734
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 2: Per thirty five point six million per okay, I mean

735
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: they can they get franchise. They could afford that. Again

736
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: with the caps, with the salary cap space, they could

737
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: extend that and say, hey, we're gonna give you another year.

738
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna add another year on your contract to which

739
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: you take you through year. You know, age thirty.

740
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Really good this year.

741
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, looks young and you don't think he's hitting the

742
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: wall and lower that cap hit for twenty twenty five.

743
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: They could do that.

744
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 3: I mean, they have all the freedom to do all

745
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: those things. Yeah, and that's what the cap space.

746
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: That's what the cap space. You know, they're still they

747
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 2: still have you know space heading into this season.

748
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: Like I also wonder and I know these these things

749
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: can get changed and get fudged, but how many teams

750
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: out there that are in the market for the vantage

751
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: Adams can actually get them under contract for this year,

752
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: that's no problem.

753
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Can Can the Chiefs do that? I'm gonna I'm gonna

754
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: look up.

755
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll be rambling over here. You know, Like

756
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: if you're the Patriots, yeah, you could use a receiver,

757
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: but you're not winning anything either. And does he even

758
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: want to go there? I mean, does he have is

759
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: it an IUK situation where he is freedom to veto

760
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: at two? That? I don't know. But I mean I

761
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: can't imagine a team like the Patriots. I bring them

762
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: up because I know they have a lot of cap space.

763
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have thirty six point nine. The Browns now

764
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: have a lot of cap space. The Steelers have right

765
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: now ten point five million dollars in cap space after

766
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: some of the moves that they've.

767
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: Had to make. Okay, but they could make more.

768
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: There'll be some salary offsetting and things of that nature

769
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, you could you could create some of that.

770
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: Who are the top I assume you pull up whole

771
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: league's cap space? Who are the top like seven or eight?

772
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers have fifty six million. They're not

773
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: in it, but they're well over the cap next year

774
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: they need those teams are like, they need to carry

775
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: that over. Same thing with the Browns. Brown forty four million.

776
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: Is he gonna want to go? He's seen to Sean Watson.

777
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: Play Live, Yeah, right, right right. I've also heard a

778
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: lot of rumblings which wouldn't work with Steelers, but Cooper

779
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: could go.

780
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and they're out of it now, they're

781
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: owing four.

782
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: If you're the Chiefs, I'll take Cooper off your hands. Yeah,

783
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: I mean it'd be really useful.

784
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have where they at on here, I bet

785
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: they're tight. Yeah, the Chiefs have four point nine million

786
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: in cap space.

787
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: All these teams could go to the Bank of Homes

788
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: or whatever, of course, and so the Steelers. But there

789
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: is something to be said for having the freedom to

790
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 3: do it now and so much space going forward.

791
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Now the Jets are sitting there with sixteen point eight

792
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: million in cap space.

793
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: What's their next year look like? Though? I think it's bad.

794
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five the Jets are actually they have eighty

795
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 2: six million dollars.

796
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so they could do it. They could do, but.

797
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: Do they need you know, then what then? Who you know,

798
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: are they going to cut somebody.

799
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: I don't know that. They're always logical, that's true. I mean,

800
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: I feel like the guy running the organization is wearing

801
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: twelve one jersey and if he wants them, he's gonna

802
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: get him. Yeah.

803
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: Give me all the shiny things.

804
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and I'll win it for you, coach. I

805
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: don't believe. I don't believe that. But when it's all

806
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: said and done, I'll give you a three plus. I'm

807
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: not sure I can give you two, but you might

808
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: convince me. He convince me. I don't know. They'll take

809
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: it too. He's in his thirties, right, he's folks. He's

810
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: a really good player. Yeah, yeah, he's definitely still a

811
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: top ten receiver. He's a phenomenal route runner, can challenge

812
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: all areas of the field. He was. The quarterbacks haven't

813
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: helped him in Vegas. That's needless to say, you know.

814
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean, so his numbers aren't blow your doors off.

815
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: He's not the fastest guy. I never was, but he

816
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: gets a lot of.

817
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Separate good size, and he just gets separation. Yeah, because

818
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: he's such a good route runner.

819
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: He's fun to watch live, I bet too, Like in

820
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: practice is tying people up and his footwork and his releases.

821
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: He's a real technician and I don't think he's gonna

822
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: go away soon.

823
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: And to a certain degree, I also think having a

824
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: guy like that, I mean it would it would help

825
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: George Pickens immensely, immensely. You know, is he going to

826
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: see all the number ones that he's seen.

827
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Thus far as Probably not.

828
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: They're playing Denver, he's not seeing Patrick Artaine.

829
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Or certain might not travel.

830
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: They might not travel. You're going to see him on occasion,

831
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: but you're not going to see him every snap.

832
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: No, And some teams might just be like, Adam is

833
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: a scarier, we're putting our best guy on him. Yeah. Oh,

834
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: it helped it to have a massive ripple effect on

835
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: the whole.

836
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: And again, I think it would help the running game.

837
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: It would just open open things.

838
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 3: Up where my tune has changed a little since because

839
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: I said those exact words too. If they get Brandon,

840
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: you there are super Bowl contender. You know, if they

841
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: had Davante Adam, they're a super Bowl contender. But the

842
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: running game has to get better, and the old line

843
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: is not in the same state that I thought it

844
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: was going to be when I said that a month ago,

845
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

846
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Like they're getting Samlu back with I think.

847
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: It's a very stabilizing I just hope there's not another.

848
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: Not that James Daniels was bad, but no, the other

849
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: guys have now gotten some experience while Samlu has been out,

850
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: and Sam Malu heading into this season was widely considered

851
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: their best offensive lineman.

852
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: And he's the leader, and he's probably the smartest, but

853
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: he's definitely the biggest veteran experienced wise guy. You know,

854
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 3: guards are easier to replace too, Like if you lose

855
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: Fraser or one of the tackles, then I'm real concerned,

856
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Because you can't go trade

857
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: for alignment.

858
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 5: No.

859
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a side note, And who the

860
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: heck knows, we'll do so much draft stuff. If you

861
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: were to make a move like this and somehow your

862
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: second is gone or your third is gone, you're strongly

863
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: considering trading back in the first round. I think probably, yeah, yeah,

864
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: they might pick first, they might pick thirty second. We

865
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: have no idea. Yeah, probably we'll pick somewhere in between,

866
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: probably in the playoff range. But I would think, boy,

867
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: we could recoup that three by moving down five spots

868
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 3: in round one. Yeah, you know, those things are feasible.

869
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: You know, absolutely, I think you can get some of

870
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: that back. And hey, let's face elmre Khan has shown

871
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: he's willing to do that kind of stuff. Move up,

872
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: move down, do.

873
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: What you got to do. So no, but i'd be

874
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: very interesting.

875
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's something that's definitely on

876
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: the table. Now. Again, if the reports are true that

877
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: the Raiders are actively calling teams and saying, hey, you

878
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: want this guy. M hm, I guarantee if he makes

879
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: that call to the Steelers, yeah, we're interested.

880
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: New Hopkins would be a lot cheaper, like a fifth.

881
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: I think Kirk is like a fourth third, something like that,

882
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: third and a fifth.

883
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do they make as big an impact. No,

884
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

885
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: Either. You're getting what you're paid for, you know, and

886
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: they also have contracts as well. But they would be helpful. Yeah,

887
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: they would be about Adams, Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

888
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: Let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

889
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

890
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back

891
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: with more right after this.

892
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893
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,600
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894
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895
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,120
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896
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560
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897
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898
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,880
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899
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900
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901
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902
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Speaker 3: serve for the Driver, one of our dames.

903
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and again leave us your feedback on YouTube. That's

904
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: a great direct line. Yes, that is me replying on there.

905
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: There's Dale Lolly and a bunch of numbers and so

906
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: that's that's yeah. So and you know we'll interact on

907
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: there and I'll take your feedback and all that good stuff.

908
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: But Matt, we saw Mason Rudolph getting a game last night.

909
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: How about it? Not the most except the dichotomy between

910
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: those two games going on at the same time was

911
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: quite evident. To say the least, the star power or

912
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: the offenses the quarterbacks. Levis is bad yeah, but I'm

913
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: sure when you take that job, because he was already there, Yes,

914
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 3: your new conversation with the owner, you know that I

915
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: like Will and I'm gonna turn him into a good quarterback.

916
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: So I think he gets right back out there. Yeah.

917
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: They right.

918
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: In fact, Callahan already said that because they had their

919
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: by this week and they come back. He's like, yeah,

920
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: Lewis is.

921
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: Our quarterback, okay, and that makes sense. I'm not sure

922
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: Rudolph isn't better. Different Yeah, yeah, we even called that

923
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: months ago. If the if it comes down to who

924
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: helps you win the most, it might be Mason. You know,

925
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: he wasn't great last night. Nothing was great last night, but.

926
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 2: He operated the offense.

927
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

928
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: And he didn't turn the ball.

929
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: He didn't do crazy stuff, Yeah he didn't.

930
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: He didn't make stupid mistakes and that Levis has made

931
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: quite frankly, so.

932
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: Many of them, right, I mean that are mind blowing

933
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: that are hard to overcome. The thing that's kind of

934
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: hidden about Titans is they have a pretty good d Yeah.

935
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: I mean they actually do.

936
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean with they spend a lot of money in

937
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: the offseason to build that defense. Yeah yeah, and still

938
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: kind of boggles my mind. That they'd have two little

939
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: backs too, I mean from Eddie George to Derek Henry.

940
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 3: I know they don't have like terrible weather there or whatever.

941
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: But your goal line back shouldn't be Pollard or Spears.

942
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: I mean they should be with someone that's a banger

943
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: and play defense and not turn the ball over, you know,

944
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: play Bason Rudolph football, you know. I mean, that'd be

945
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: your best chance to win.

946
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as you said that, you know the coaching

947
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: staff when they come in there, they know what the

948
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: situation is. And I'm sure the owner talked to my height,

949
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: we just drafted this kid. We want to see what

950
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 2: we got. That being said it was only a second

951
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: round draft pick. True, I mean, so you're not married

952
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: Mary too.

953
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: No, they'll move off from him in a heartbeat if

954
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: he's If he proves not to be the guy this year,

955
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: you just need to know, you know. And so he's

956
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: gonna get every opportunity if by chance, he would have

957
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 3: been injured now for the year, that's worst case scenario,

958
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: because it's like, well, we have an eighth pick in

959
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: the draft. Should we take the eighteenth best player who

960
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: happens to be a quarterback, or should we roll back

961
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: with Levis, who we don't know anything about. You know

962
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: that that's what you can't.

963
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: Have, Yeah, for sure, But good to see Mason get

964
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: out there. And yeah, look like Mason.

965
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: Rudolph, he'll be this league for as long as he

966
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: wants basic. Yeah, you know. I mean, he's gonna retire

967
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: with quite a few career starts and a whole lot

968
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: of dollars in the bank. And he's an asset to

969
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: any team.

970
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean that's that's what you want in

971
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: your backup quarterback, a guy who's capable of coming in

972
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: and running your offense.

973
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: Or flip it around and do a Flaco and just

974
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: run his own offense. And yeah, yeah, that's the ideal.

975
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Matt, looking at this, I mentioned this, This

976
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: Dallas team, they are just a They're eleventh in offense, yeah,

977
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: thirteenth on in yards, eleventh in points. They're twenty sixth

978
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: in defense on yard in yard is and twenty seventh

979
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: in points allowed.

980
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

981
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: They beat the Browns, holding Cleveland to two hundred and

982
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: thirty total yards, including ninety three on the ground. The

983
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: following week, the Saints blow them out. Yeah, they put

984
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: up four hundred and thirty two yards one hundred and

985
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: ninety on the ground. Then they played the Ravens. Yeah,

986
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: they lose to the Ravens by three, but they were

987
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: getting blown out in that game too.

988
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: They were the Ravens like to give up leads and yeah,

989
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: Dak will come back and keep chipping away.

990
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: You know, the Ravens had four hundred and fifty six

991
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: yards in that game, including two hundred and seventy four

992
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: on the ground.

993
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: I mean that back to back rushing defense performance is

994
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: like one of the worst in history. Yeah, two game stretch,

995
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: I mean it was really that bad.

996
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: And then last week they beat the Giants twenty to fifteen.

997
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: They the Giants had three hundred and three total yards,

998
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy seven of that was through the air,

999
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: twenty six on the ground.

1000
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: All wandel and neighbors. And yeah, you know, they were more.

1001
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: Than willing to give up that. But they you know,

1002
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: they buckled down when they got in the red zone.

1003
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: So the red zone, which was a good strategy. By

1004
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: that that being said, their red zone defense, they've still

1005
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: allowed nine touchdowns in twelve possessions. I think it's one

1006
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: of the worst seventy Yeah, you know, conversion rate here.

1007
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: That's with Parsons and yeah, that was with Parsons and Lawrence.

1008
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: They don't have those guys now.

1009
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: They don't And a big key to their run defense

1010
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: to me is just undersized linebackers. Those I mean, like

1011
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: this overshown kid is really exciting. I mean, he flies

1012
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: around the field, he makes a lot of plays. He

1013
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: kind of looks like a safety. And they drafted Mazzie

1014
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: Smith think I think he was a safety conversion. Yeah,

1015
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: from Texas. They drafted Mazzie Smith to be some of

1016
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: that beef. He's kind of looked like a bust to

1017
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: this point, they don't have a lot of power at

1018
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: the point of attack. They don't protect particularly well the

1019
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: front seven. I'm not real impressed with their secondary. But yeah,

1020
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: it's okay.

1021
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: They got name They got some names back there because

1022
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: guys have intercepted. Yeah, they take the ball away, but

1023
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: they try to jump everything. That's definitely I'm not sure

1024
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: if that's still a Zimmer thing with them, but it

1025
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: has them play and they you know, they did try

1026
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: to jump some stuff. Again. There was a play late

1027
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: in that game against Washington where one of their corners

1028
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: came up and instead of you know, he tries to

1029
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: went for the interception with the receiver behind him, you're

1030
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: only up a score. Yeah yeah, Now the pass was offline,

1031
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: thankfully for the Cowboys. Yeah, fortunately for them. But if

1032
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: he doesn't make that pick and the receiver catches it,

1033
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: game's over.

1034
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Pass rushes are a big thing. I mean,

1035
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: over the last year's couple of years, that's been their

1036
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: backbone of the defense, led by Parsons of course, who

1037
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: they'll move all over, but those guys are really good

1038
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: on the edge defending the run too. I haven't really

1039
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: dug into who the replacements are and that kind of

1040
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 3: stuff at this stage of the week, but their front

1041
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: without those two is going to be subpar, to say

1042
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: the least. I Thinkizoo was not a bad player, but

1043
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: he's a free technique type.

1044
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you're looking at this right now, Well, Lawrence

1045
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: leads the team with three sacks. Well he's out. Parsons

1046
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: at this point only has one. But he's their most

1047
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: he's the guy that he's there, TJ one. You know,

1048
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: everybody still have eight. I think they have ane, so

1049
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: half of their sacks are gone. Their leading sack guys

1050
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: are the two inside linebackers, Eric Kendricks and to Marvin Overshawn,

1051
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: they still do that. Zimmer loves about yeah, loves the

1052
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 2: blitz the middle inside linebackers through the A gap.

1053
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 3: He will pepper the a graps like crazy with those dudes,

1054
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: and Kendricks is his guy. I mean they would. They

1055
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: did a lot of time together with the Vikings. He's

1056
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: past his prime, but he aligns everybody. He's the smart guy,

1057
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: he's the veteran, but he was a little undersized on

1058
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: his best day too. You know, he's not a hammer.

1059
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's going to be interesting to see how

1060
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: they counter not having those two guys in their lineup,

1061
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 2: because it's it's now you're looking at Eric Kendricks. Even

1062
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: in terms of their their their tackles. Right now, Kendricks

1063
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: leads a team with forty two over Sewan has twenty nine.

1064
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: The safety Donovan Wilson has nineteen. Trayvon Diggs to eighteen.

1065
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 2: He's a cornerback. MALIEK. Cooker, another safety, has sixteen a lot.

1066
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: So you're teams are getting guys into the secondary on.

1067
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 3: This yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't.

1068
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: Parsons only has fourteen tackles at this point. Lawrence has

1069
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: fourteen tackles, the outside linebackers have not been super no dynamic,

1070
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: dynamic to this point. And again it's a new defense

1071
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: with Mike Zimmer.

1072
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the roster as a whole, and it's we're kind

1073
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: of showing it here on defense too. It's sort of

1074
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: a stars and scrubs roster.

1075
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: And now both the stars are gone, I mean Lamb

1076
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: Dack yeah, you know defensively right, and.

1077
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: The two defensive players or definitely stars, and the tier

1078
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: two players on this roster aren't really there, you know

1079
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like even like Brandon Cooks is kind

1080
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: of a tier three guy now or you know, starting

1081
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: left tackles or first pick, a first round pick, and

1082
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: maybe he turns into something, but he isn't Tyron Smith,

1083
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a project. Yeah yeah, So it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be interesting. We'll dig more into the Cowboys as the

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Speaker 2: week goes on, but we get get to a break

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Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our number one of

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Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and

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Speaker 2: I'll be back with our number two right after this