WEBVTT - Episode 313 w/ Pusha T 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:09.799 And it's drinks, motherfucking podcast. He's electric, very Queen's rapper. 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.800 He's agree is your boy in r He's a Miami 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.880 hippop pioneer d J e f N. Together they drinking 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.800 up with some of the biggest players in the most 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:24.400 professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sorts for drunk 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.800 fast drink is New Year's e doesn't It's time for 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:38.680 drink Chance, drink up? Would it could be hoping? He would? 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.800 It should be? This is your boy and right? What 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.000 up is d J e FN? This Mother's he be 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:55.000 crazy World Radio Drink Chance, motherfucker. Yea, I'm gonna be honest. Oh, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.520 when we introducing this next guest, he has he has 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:03.760 been sipping from the fountain and of youth for about 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:08.760 twenty something years. He's not aged at all. It's the 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:16.160 same his bar level. It's has increased and increased and increased. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.360 It's not to say that he's selling more drugs, but 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:28.880 the has been. If there's something called rap steroids, I'm 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:34.040 pretty sure he invented it better and better. With time, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.199 he's been able to fulfill the dream that I always 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.360 wanted to do. I always wanted to have for Rell 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.040 and Swiss Beats produced the whole album, but he got someone. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.000 He got Forrell and Kanye, something I never even thought of. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.120 I mean, this album is really really like fine Wine. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.520 I mean, he comes from my era. So I wanted 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.800 to critique it. I wanted to find the flaws in it. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.720 I wanted to be like, well, you ain't do this, this, this, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.240 or you ain't do that. It's not there. It's not there. People. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.640 I try to analyze it. I try to analyze the something, 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.200 and it's not there. This album is excellent. So then 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.600 when you hear the the man who represents black excellence, Dad, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.760 he comes on and trust me, if he ain't getting 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:26.960 paid here on promotion, we've tried, and he gets on 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:28.799 there and says, this is the album, this is it. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.960 We're not playing around out here. This man has been 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:40.240 able to maintain the level of what is this relevancy 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:48.960 in different errors without being old. It's crazy. From cash 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:55.080 Doll to whoever he could work with, to Kendrick he 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.920 could work with and stand the test of time. In 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.960 case you don't know who the I'm talking about, he 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.840 told about the one the motherfucking only push your motherfure. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.200 I can't lie to you push up. I really did 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.800 look at the album and I wanted to do it, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.680 not as a friend, I don't want to say as 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.040 a journalist, but yeah, let's say that I wanted to 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.560 look at it with so well I could be like, man, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:26.839 he's and it was one of the things I did. 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.600 And then it shut me up. I said, damn, he 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.519 ain't got no radio record. And then the little Uzy 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.679 bird came in and just smapped me. Got the funk 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:41.480 up North? How do you maintain that? Because this is 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.480 it's hard, bro, and especially getting money. The more money 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:49.320 we get, the hunger goes away. That's true. So I mean, yeah, man, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:54.640 I ain't been hungry a long time. None of you 0:03:54.720 --> 0:04:00.360 made that hunk on that mic level. Man, I'm I've 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.640 made it my business. Two. First of all, I only 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.760 know how to wrap one way. I only know lyric 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.840 driven metaphors, wrap, street wrap. That's it, and that's what 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.760 I'm comfortable with. I know if I step outside of that, 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.880 I'm gonna look like a clown. That's just not That's 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:23.760 not me. Um, you know, but I only know how 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.640 to do it one way. So I've made it my 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:32.800 business to make sure lyrically it stays up, you know, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.320 it can stand up against whatever is popular out there 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.040 as well. Like that's how I attack it. I listen 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:46.279 to everything that's going on musically. Actually yeah yeah, I 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.960 like her, but but you know, um, I listen to 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:51.919 all the all the young, all the young, all of 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:57.640 young music, and and listening to it while I'm writing, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.560 I'm definitely thinking like, man, how how can these flows? 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.280 How can these bounces? How can the things that I'm saying, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.320 you know, still relate to them still relate to them? 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.640 And and they get it or they just respected It's 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.360 not you know, it's like the same way. I can't 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.960 do what they do. I'm pretty sure they can't do 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.279 what I do either, But we gotta respect each other's craft. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.919 And that's how I attack it. Because there was something 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.599 like I've seen the Colorade video on YEA. It was 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.000 something that Charlotte Magne said that really hit me. He said, Um, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.640 one thing you can never really like praise too much 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.640 is youth because if you're really good, your youth goes 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.880 like don't get don't get the Twitter. You could be 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.960 young forever, like you'll be young forever. But is that 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.480 something that you you pride you probade yourself on is 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.960 because you know the longevity, Like we didn't coming up. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.080 We didn't realize Damn que Tip. This is you know, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.000 praising que We didn't realize that they're here fifteen years 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.359 realized and we didn't us how hard that was. If 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.920 that's something that you you you meditated and thought about, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:06.680 or is that something that just came out, Well, it's 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.760 been it's been a it's been part of my race. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.880 I put this, This has been in my plan. This 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.480 has been a part of my race. Um. You know, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.000 when I think about all the greats that I ever loved, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.240 everybody who was like popping there, I mean, you know, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.080 everybody I tried to young, trying to dress like and 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.240 put on clothes like cume my eyebrows and everything I 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.680 was I did right of course, of course, when I 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:41.080 think about it, they only had three joints, three albums, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.719 maybe maybe five if you look at the basics between 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:49.119 Came and Caress and kind of realized like Damn Kine 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:54.960 only probably had three albums, Like maybe maybe whose fault 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.920 you think that would be? There's as an artist or 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.760 the industry at the time. Now I think it's I 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.719 think it's UM, well, this is this is my theory 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:09.200 on that. Um. I'm gonna say it's their fault artistically. UM, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.680 but I'm gonna say this, the error in which they 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.600 came up and was so good. It was the Golden Age, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.680 the golden error, the greatest music. Still think about it. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:24.600 We're still taking fashion cues from them, you know what 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.120 I'm saying. We still it's still all from them. So 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.400 when everything that came after them versus embracing it, I 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.120 feel like they were more like, yeah, but it ain't 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.880 like what we did, you know what I'm saying. It 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.720 ain't like how we was rocking. And I feel like that, 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.840 you know, when you have that that mentality and that 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:51.120 energy you um, it sort of ages you out and 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.560 and it and it stifles, it stifles the progression of 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.560 what you could be doing. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:02.240 I think and in all honesty, I think that, Um, 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.680 I want to say that from from before that era 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.200 or from that era, I want to say Hove is 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:13.320 probably the only one who did more reaching out or 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:16.240 or or your rock with whether it was you know, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.680 internally with the young Philly dudes and on rock, versus 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.640 doing the features with whoever you you know, YouTube are 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:29.160 maintaining that level of legends, legendary news that younger more 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.480 competing with it, competing with it, doesn't put it. That's 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:40.000 very hard, Yeah, because when they're calling you a legend 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.720 or they're calling your o G, they're also calling you, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.480 oh sure, and what's wrong with that? What's wrong with no? 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.440 No? No No no. But when there's nothing wrong with the way, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.480 but the youth looks at that as a crush. That 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.160 doesn't look at that as as as a shield. They 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.200 don't look at that as a sward. They look at 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:02.000 it as a handicap almost like like if you look 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.440 at the interview, like with Corn, the way she's dropping 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.920 out how much she can't understand why charlottage and keeps 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.480 bringing up push your ded She's like, well, how old 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:16.600 is he is? Like like, know, he's forty, and forty 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.160 is like great to if you're twenty years old, and 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.000 I cooration big up up, but yeah I like that 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.360 to um big upray and todging all of them and 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.480 and and and the pops to everybody. But what I'm 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:33.559 trying to say is forty seems so old to us, 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.440 and now that we're forty it's like, oh, we're still young, 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.680 but they don't get that right. And I think I 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:46.440 think that, you know, I think that the way that 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.280 my fan base has has grown, I feel like I 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.040 got Day one fans and I also pick up new ones. 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.360 But I feel like that comes from that comes from 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.640 outside of music too, that comes from like the fashion 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.000 aspect or the just or just even sonically, Like you 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.840 know what I'm saying. It's it's you know, like the 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.520 cool kids. The cool kids still love to decipher the 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.800 lyrics and and and and they want to be put 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.440 on too, like oh, what's that branding talking about? Because 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:14.760 they want to go outside and be like, oh I 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.400 got this, you ain't got this, you ain't on it. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.760 So as long as you still playing those games, it 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.400 sort of helps. I won't lie to you. I listened 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.920 to the Little Oozy Bird song, and I did not 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.120 know I was a Little Oozy Bird fan. I did 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.640 not know that because I went and I took that. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.679 I went on and I wanted to to to see 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.320 all these other songs that Little Ouzy Bird is on, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.440 and it was so many songs that I was familiar. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.120 I just didn't identify that that was a little Uzy. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.040 Was he special? It was he special because what people 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:50.000 don't know is Ouzy, it was he's Philly. He's a rapper. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.559 Like you know what I'm saying, He didn't just unlocked 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:57.120 his creativity on some like you know what I'm saying, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.520 don't play you know what I'm saying, Like slightly had 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:08.679 a diamond him space. He deserves it. But you know 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.960 and and and you know, so he still he But 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.920 a lot of people don't know is he really has 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.439 the skill set. And when you hear the verse and 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.520 you'd be like, oh no, he got a real skill set. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.439 We're listening to Neon Guts with him and Farrell, It's like, oh, 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.640 oh hell no, he really rapped. He doing what he 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:31.199 want to do. How yeah, it's big blue versus not 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:36.720 look over that. But how crazy? How many great hairs 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.880 that you get trying to get Kanye and Farrell in 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:44.000 the studio at the same time. Oh I didn't even 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.840 not even once, not even once. I um, you know, 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.880 I really so. How I started the whole process of 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.480 even making the album was like I had like a 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.400 I had a record. I had one record from from 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.720 YEA and that was hearing me clearly right, yeah, So 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.439 I took. I took it was one verse, so I 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.000 took hear me clearly down in Miami. I came down 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.120 here and I was just like, yeah, man, I'm ready 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.200 to start. I said me, and you cooked up something 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.480 the other day and it just got me going. And 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:20.839 he was like, let me hear it for I was like, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.760 let me hear it. So I played it and he 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:32.880 was like he shrugged on me. Yeah, you want to 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.120 hear me clearly right, And he was like, you know, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:40.640 like I I love Cocky forever. Listen, listen, but don't 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:52.000 nobody know that me? Like he like yo, he like, um, 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.520 I mean it's all right, but I mean you like you. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.360 I mean you wanta be in a mixtape? You wanna 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.520 make a mixtape? How many mixtapes you want to make? 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:11.000 How many mixtapes you want to make? It? So I 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.240 was like, you know at the time, so I'm like damn, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.240 like you know and mind you were just talking. He's like, man, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.120 like you know, for you to go to the next level, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:24.160 you gotta become a character out here, like, bro, how 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.480 many Hot six teams? Bro, I'm tired of the Hot 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:30.040 six team And and Bros, I'm talking about it's punching me. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.240 Every every word he's saying, it's punching me, punching me right, 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:40.000 And I'm like, no, it's to my face. And I'm 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.160 like and I'm you know, I'm just thinking. I'm sitting 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.240 them thinking, I'm thinking back. I'm like, man, I used 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.840 to like, you know, you got on like I used 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.640 to get in your huge gs. We used to ride 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.600 the Norfic State, go pick up these same mixtapes you're 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:59.760 talking about. Ride the whole day. You know, we know 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.320 the whole verse from north the Virginia Beach and back. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.640 Like it's just like, you know what, I'm just thinking 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.679 to myself like damn, like is we not? Is we 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.480 not where we're at? Like you know? And he was 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:12.720 then I just got, you know, I just I just listen. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.280 I just listened and just let him keep going. And 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.960 I realized, man, like he's just at a place where 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:24.200 that man tries to knock everything out the park everything, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.360 I don't care what it is. And and I don't 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.840 even think we made music. That's how that's how the 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.640 conversation was so ill to me. I don't think we 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.040 made music that day. I think we just talked it 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.640 out and and I had to like just process it 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.040 and like you know, and you know, we might have 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:44.720 had just had the rest of the day kicked in, 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.200 whatever the case may be. But I don't I don't 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.000 think we did nothing that day, nothing with the with 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.320 the intentions on coming into like yo, let's let's get busy. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.960 And you know, I had, um it was it was. 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.440 It was in the pandemic or whatever. So usually every morning, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.600 every morning, me and him a talk six in the morning, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.080 you know, six. He's definitely the early guy, early guy. Yeah, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:17.560 you're early, so um being I was, I was standing 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.600 at this crib during this time. We would just get up. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.360 We just get up at six. So I'm like, man, 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.520 you know, we're both up, we're both fresh. He's like, man, 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.920 let's come in when we're fresh, and let's just um, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.400 you know, let's let's let's just start working. And so 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.720 then that's when the actual process started, like a day later, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.280 and we're just being the studio working get up early, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.520 because you're working together since you since y'all was in 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.960 Virginia broke nothing, so not rapping, not rapping, I was, 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.280 We've been working together since we were hanging out. I 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.200 wasn't even rapping. He came to me one day on 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.560 some like he came to me like, Yo, your brother 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.360 is Gene. He'd rapping his dude, I know you were 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.040 kidding me. Got a lot and I'm like, oh, real, Like, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.000 I was like, no, you can't work with him. He 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:13.520 worked with Tim, can't. I just wanted like yeah, And 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.200 he was, you know he was at that time. But 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.520 Timberland and my brother they all went to junior high 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.400 school together and Timerland was the DJ for all of 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:26.120 the everybody who rapped, and he knew my brother from 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.440 being down the beach and rapping amongst all of them 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:33.000 guys and didn't know that that was my brother. Yeah, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.200 so um, you know when he found out that, he 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.600 was like, oh man, you know, time goes on Tim, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.160 Tim you know, got his foot in the career, his 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.720 foot in the door first and went to Jersey left 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.960 Vier went to Jersey Joe to see all of that, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.520 And that opened the door. Teddy came down. He came down, 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.520 and that opened the door for for my brother and 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:02.040 Chad to connect well before again well before I was right, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.520 So the wait, But how much did that conversation you 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.800 guys have set the foundation or momentum for when you 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.919 started working on the music. Um, it was. It was 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.359 totally the foundation. It was everything. It was like once 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.879 he said that one thing, one thing I said about 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.080 even working with him and Yea during this process was 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:27.159 I was gonna listen, like I was gonna follow direction. Um. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:33.359 I came into this game always knowing how much production, 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.720 the marriage between the lyrics and production made, you know 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.119 what I'm saying, made the magic. I never thought I 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.480 wrapped so good that you know, I could just wrap 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.600 over anything. All of my favorites got a very bad 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.040 album somewhere because they think they can just rap over anything, 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.439 you know what I'm saying. And I always peep there, 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.240 you know, and and and I was like okay, and 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.159 I always understood that. I always understood that. And and 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.000 the biggest thing for me was to make this better 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.600 than Daytona. Like I was like, man, how can I 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:16.080 make uh? But yeah, you know that, My biggest thing 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.119 was to make it better than Daytona. And um but 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.199 I was like, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.280 like just listen to them and see. Like I really 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.159 wanted to be produced because I felt like that was 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.760 one thing about Daytona. I just rapped. I just rapped over. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.239 We was fast tracking it. It was going. I was, 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.480 I was gonna. I stayed in there with you so 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.760 I could get the hardest beats when everybody else would 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.280 leave and whatever. I was like, nah or just so 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:47.240 he wouldn't steal him for himself. I stayed and I 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.280 took him and I was like, you know after that, 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.360 you know, he was working on five albums at that 0:18:53.440 --> 0:19:00.680 particular time. Music everybody Tiana kids. He was right, which, 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.720 we'll never get another one. We'll never get another one 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:11.680 per per cutting. So I like me too. So um 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.240 so I was fast tracking and you know, just writing 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.120 boom woman, trying to get it done and I and 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.840 I didn't feel like I was produced. So I said, 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.000 you know what, I know, I know at least that's 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:29.760 one bar I can check off. Yes, So I was like, man, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.439 I know that's one bar I could check off if 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.639 I just let them produce me while we got this time. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.399 Ain't nobody rushing, it's the pandemic, ain't nothing going on. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.119 So you know, that was the first That was the 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.679 first thing. So I said, man, I'm gonna listen, and 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.600 you know, and Farrell. Farrell made it very clear. He 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.640 was like, listen, man, if we're gonna do this, we're 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.360 gonna we're gonna do flows, We're gonna do cadences. I'm 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.600 gonna make sure that hooks is sticky. I'm gonna make 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.520 sure that the B courses and stick I kind of 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.000 feel like you like resemblance sle Greg everything we need 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:06.080 to be addressed. Was that done on purpose? Yeah? That 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.520 was the hardest record. That was the hardest record. So 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:13.480 the record, the record was written right, I executed it 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.960 bom womb, like you know what I'm saying. Farrell, come 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.720 in here it and he's like, man, that ship ain't 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:26.000 He's like that, you're still rapping meds. You ain't embodying nothing. 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.560 You ain't gonna I'm like, now, mind you. By the 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.480 time I even tell him to come in and listen, 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.399 it's because I'm married. I'm happy, I'm good. I'm like, 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.560 I'm married to what I've been done. You're proud. He 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:42.200 come and tear a whole man, He tell a whole 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.640 chalkboard off the wall. No, it's not it. You ain't. 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.480 You ain't enough of a character. You ain't enough of 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.439 a character. And by this time, this is when we 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.880 sort of started the exercise of like we will play 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.560 the Joker every day because well, the first we're just 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:01.640 watching it. He was like, man, you know you're talking 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:08.880 about characterist and that then he gets into like yeah, 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.880 so we're like yo, were like um, He's like, man, 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.199 you know, uh, you need to um you need to 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.520 be more on character. Man. He's like, man, this is you. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.000 Look at you. You you laugh just like them You 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.480 you laughing. J ain'ts supposed to laugh at you. You 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.399 got you got doc tendencies about yourself. You just you know, 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.960 you start fatiguing me. So I'm like all right, you 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.439 know whatever. So we're just watching it every day, watching 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:35.719 every day, and then he started making beats and then 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:37.960 he would mute it and be like, man, this is 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.159 the ill scene. Look at this ill scene, Like this 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.320 sounds like this, this sounds supposed to go to this 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.200 and you see homeboy running down the steps or doing 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:52.000 whatever he's doing, you know, doing something, so um, you know, 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.280 with that being the case, he was like, man, I 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.960 don't want I don't want you rapping. I want you 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.200 to you know, like really, embody it, like you know 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.080 that's why that that's why that song sounds. So I'm 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:06.080 saying all the evil ship I would say, but I'm 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:09.000 talking a matter of fact. You like Buffalo Shrimp from 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.520 My Hey, Moss Coke deals up stays at the Round 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:15.119 Mother the Ocean from Hotels was popular, and crack was 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.640 cemented for nomena. I like the presidential was on my own, 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:22.400 you know that, just like you know, just talking like 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.960 you know. But he made me like bro that took forever. 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:28.679 I felt like I was an R and B singer 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:34.000 because he made me like, like, yo, no, you still 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:37.879 you you know I'm still He's like, nah, I don't not. 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:39.960 It's not is that a hit to your ego? Like 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:41.760 how much of your ego takes a hit when he's 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.520 telling you this is my brother. I mean, I don't, 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.000 you know, like my ego, don't my ego don't even 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:50.200 kick in with him. As far as that goes, it's 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:54.600 the difference in what we appreciate because it's still at 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.840 the end of the day, a high six teen is 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.800 like a top ten record to me. If any got 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.719 motherfucking twenty four mean bars and I come across it, 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:10.080 I'm I'm floyed, but I'm gonna know it. I memorize it, 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.199 you know what I'm saying, Like that's something that like, 0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.240 that's something that I can hear in the street and 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:16.919 I can feel in the street and something you know, 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.199 things are gonna talk about it, the bather, shopping, so 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.879 on and sofa like all of that energy is what 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:27.199 fuels me. And it was just it was bothersome to 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.440 know that that ain't really fuel him like it used 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:32.960 to feel him like it used to feel us together. 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.480 That was my issue. More so, I believe that's a 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:43.480 beautiful thing. One thing about the album that you said 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.080 that I did disagree. You said you thought your fans 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.080 wish your fans was more like Jay Cole's right, And 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.800 I think you said because then lying after that because 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.280 the Dope Boys was Dope Boys gotta be the man 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.360 like they know double one times are shortly load. They 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.240 know I'm the man. I'm the man. But I want 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.720 to disagree with you. The reason why let me just 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.520 tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'll tell 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.400 you what I go through because I don't think they 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.600 actually when it comes to whenever when person says push 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.679 you and they say Kendrick and they say Jay and 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.080 they say cold, I don't think they say push your 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:25.280 is it? But he's dope wrapper cocaine wraps, and Kendrick is. 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.840 I think that you're all in that lyrical and that 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.160 all I don't think. I don't think you're you're, you're, you're, you're, 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:36.639 You're categorized as a cocaine don't wrapper or cocaine don't wrapper, 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.440 and Kendrick is a backpack dope wrapper and Jay Cole 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.200 is a dread wearing dope wrapper. I don't think it's 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:46.159 categorized like that. I think it's categorized as lyricism. And 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.960 and in the cage of lyricism, you and J Cole 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:58.160 as the same fans. And that made me true. I mean, 0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.600 we toured together, so we talk together, and and that 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:07.080 that that line came from just referencing said something like 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:11.160 Jay lyrically he wish he would be and I kind 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.159 of felt that that was what you was going to 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.840 see see with me. It was like when I was 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.960 saying that, I was just speaking to the fact that man, 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.760 you know, I've been on tour with J Cole and 0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.520 when I when I when I was out there and 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.680 I would like I would go out there of course 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:30.919 do my set, watch his set, um, maybe even go 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.200 to the after party or whatever they you know what 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.679 I'm saying, his crew, whatever the case may be. But 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.040 it was the energy around him was just like it 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.919 was all it was all praise and like man, they 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.560 just happy that. It just felt like a college energy 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.040 and just people are just happy to be around them 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:51.399 and happy to see him. Um, I forgot shift. What 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:57.600 year was that? Sure? He on the phone? Um yeah yeah. 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:04.520 But but but I was liking in it too when 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.920 I go out and like when I do the after 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:08.760 parties and so on and so forth, it's a it's 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.440 a it kind of gets a dangerous thing and it's 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.080 like you know you you you got those who love 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.480 you on something like yo, yo, I'll rock with what 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.760 you're doing. Then it's always the yeah, you know, I 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:25.200 killing you know what. It's a different energy, and then 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.640 it turns into you know that, get a little dicey 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.800 and get a little you know, I gotta turn into this, 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.480 And it was just it was just tapping on another 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.000 another instance of call my bluff because even that person 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.120 can get it, Like I'm just like bro, that's where 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.720 my mindset was. But that mindset is like, that's a 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.040 real thing for me in real and real time outside, 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.159 like you run across that energy with what it is 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:57.960 that I do, whereas what what what what what Jake 0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.840 Cole does. It's like, man, it's like it's just a 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.359 different It's it's cool and it's lax, and and his 0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.920 fans are just like he'll be riding bikes to the city. 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:13.240 But you know what I'm saying, he definitely but still 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:18.080 like Bob Molly is like like the hip hop and 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.000 I love listen, I love my fans. I'm not you know, 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.159 I'm not trying to uh, you know, talk down on 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:25.320 them at all, but I'm just saying there's a difference 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.440 in Okay, the rest said watch what you say you attracted. 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:33.600 So that's a lot of coboys going to your joints, listen, 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:38.919 little down church, you to cheeny the car phones. You know. 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.400 I'm like, that is that what happens to you? Yeah, 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.760 but that it's not that, it's just you know, you know, 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:52.480 you know before like you know well, and I'm saying 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:56.720 I think is sonically like lyricism sonically, it's it's all 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.400 on the same. For sure. You're saying it's the content 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.480 is attracting different energy, like the specific content that you're addressing, 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:09.919 not totally you are right, yeah, but um, it's like 0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.000 I think they repeat this question to you all the time, 0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.840 this question to jay Z all the time. They repeat 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.440 this questions the Jada kiss all the time, and it's like, 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.679 as much as you've grown, it's still that you know, 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.040 this is where I come from type of you know, 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:30.439 hustle rap. It's it's the cocaine references. And you know, 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.359 how is that throughout these years, like is this is 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.040 this this question always gonna come up or they understand 0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:42.000 that it's a reference. Man, I don't mind the question 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.000 because I don't mind answering it. You know what I'm saying. 0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.040 It's like I've been saying as of late, I'm trying 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:51.000 to be the Martin Scorsese of of street rap, you 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.320 know what I'm saying, Like I want out, Like y'all 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.640 don't ask Martin Scorsese to make Going with the Wind, 0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:57.640 you know, you want him to make a gang conflict 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.760 with guns, mob killers, boom, and we all run to 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.440 the movie every time, we all doing whatever we're doing 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.240 to see it, talking about it and loving it. For 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:09.880 a lifetime. That's what happens. So it's like, you know, 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.440 for me, I look at myself like that, you know 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:16.200 what I'm saying, And it's like, man, this is like, bro, 0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:20.040 this this is wrap that I know. I mean, how 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.920 I look at rap, man, Rap started in the street. 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.360 It started in It started from poverty and started it 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.960 started from despair. It started from just coming outside talking 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:36.080 about your environment, bro. Like, I don't understand why it's 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:39.000 an issue. I don't even understand why people talk about like, 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.520 you know what I'm saying, what what my content is 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:45.160 versus what somebody else content is. It's like, no, we 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.000 want to like this is and and at this point 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.880 I've been in this twenty years, Like I'm like, man, 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.360 I'm here to entertain a certain sector of people. I'm 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.160 not going out to like I'm not reaching out trying 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.120 to get new people and so on and so forth, 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.920 like and and I don't believe that it's just if 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:07.520 you're surface level listeners all cocaine service level. And I 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.960 don't think I'll write for surface level listeners. I write 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.680 for people who'll be like you overwind that back people 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:20.000 to say, I'll be winding a couple of times. Yes, 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:31.040 So let's le let's talk about the album. I want 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.760 to break down song from song at some point, but 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.640 before we get deep straight into the album. Yeah, I 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.000 want to ask something. Well, I've heard you on the 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:47.360 Breakfast Club answer this. Um. Also, I believe I'm not 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.080 sure if you did ebro and them. You did ebro 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.520 on them right yesterday. Okay, I don't know if I've 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.720 seen it yet. Okay, but I've seen a couple of 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:59.960 interviews where this Jack Harlow song, Yeah, it's brought up. Yeah, 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.840 I'm gonna be honest, push what's up? Because you like 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:08.440 you like the only Donalds like this man has no 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:16.800 other losses anywhird? This man is the Michael Elvis. Okay, 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:20.280 I don't even know if that's a person. You made 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.000 that one, you know, I made it that this man 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:30.080 and he says revenge is it's not even a coachable 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:36.240 even though this verse could be old right, revenge. I 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.080 gotta get him back for that whatever he's I'm you know, 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:43.040 I paraphrasing on Jack all Dry the body trying to 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.680 kill Jack, and it sounded like he was trying to 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.440 kill Jack coming for you. Yeah, what does push your 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.600 teeth say, even though it's old, it might be old. No, no, listen, 0:31:54.880 --> 0:32:04.160 I don't. I mean, bro, like okay, it's it's sounds 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.320 when I say old. It sounded old old to me, 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.360 like just the flows, the raps, like it just wasn't 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:15.720 it wasn't what it is that I think four years 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:24.200 later after what I did, that's not that wasn't like that. 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.240 I mean like that didn't even phase me. But you 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.600 don't think because of the even though, like you said, 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.160 it sounds old, but the content of it was, Like 0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.080 I ain't forgetting it. I'm coming from I don't care. 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.880 I don't care what they forget, Like I don't care, 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:40.480 like bro, like for real, like I'm just I mean 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:44.160 just being totally totally honest. I don't give a fuck. 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.040 And I think they know it, like they know it. 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.280 All parties know it. Yeah, you know it. He know. 0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:56.520 Like I'm not playing with anybody. I'm not because you 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.640 did not show up with the concert. No, no, we 0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.840 know he asked me to because because you know what, 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.080 because and it's not it was it was it's simply 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:12.360 because like it's at this point, none of it is 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.760 a game to me, like none of it and I'm 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:21.400 like I'm doing my best to just you know, let 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.360 bygones be bygones. I'm chilling. I'm good. I mean, look like, 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:32.520 listen to me, listen to my album Untouchable. You know 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:37.920 what I'm saying. But you know, man, you know I 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.240 look at all of that is um and all of 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:46.720 that energy as still showing the effects of what it 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:51.920 is that I've done, real, real, for real, because because 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.760 really I don't, I don't even think about it. I don't. 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.800 And there's no bars on this album. I was looking 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.320 for that too. I was looking for this. My momm 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:07.440 is flawless without it, right, that's crazy. Anybody else would 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.359 have jumped on and not not me because I ain't 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:22.720 really playing like I'm really not. So everybody understands that's it. Okay, 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:27.040 So let me ask has Jake Prince ever weeks out 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.560 to you? Like how I spoke to j Prince numerous times? Man, 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.680 so so not about him? Okay, don't know, nobody talk 0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.719 to me about him him? Because I also heard you 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.120 say you don't want to record with UM. I don't 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.680 want to be I'm gonna be honest, I don't want it. 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.600 Let's just not even I don't I want to record. 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.840 I don't. I don't. I don't want it. I'm cool. 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:55.760 I'm cool without it. You don't want none, none, no, photo, 0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:02.919 I'm cool. Photo want to say, No, you don't play 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.799 hockey with him, Canada, none of it. I'm cool like 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:10.160 I ain't playing. I'm gonna just go ahead and do 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.240 what I do. Put y'all that peace. I'm at peace. 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.680 So if right now you're hosting Saturday Night Live, that 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:23.280 was a wrong choice you hosted. You can't host that. 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.239 I've been saying, I don't know how that came out of. 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:35.120 You want this part of the club, right, they say, 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.200 there's one of the artists walking in here. They wanted 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.440 the other side of the club, right right next to 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:44.319 there they come. You see who it is. It's push 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:48.480 to leaven. No, but you're not. I'm never not stilling 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.680 in your hands. No, I don't want to listen. I 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.640 want nothing. I want I don't if as a person 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.160 who let's just let's just look at the face value. Yeah, 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:01.080 let's say everyone who actually said that, you guys sparred 0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.360 right that you guys want to add it. Everybody says 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.920 you want right, most most of people who are lyrical 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.879 content especially after his meek male Thebacco. Most people say 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.640 that you want, so then why are you not willing 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.640 to say? You know what it was? I felt attacked 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.640 because things that I don't speak on and things that 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:27.960 I won't speak on have happened since right that I'm 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.800 I just ain't wanna speak on it, but I ain't playing, 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:38.480 so for me, it ain't even about you know. I 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.799 feel like if it was just a rap thing and 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.320 it was what it was, you know that was cool. 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.360 You think that they went too far when they mentioned 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.959 your lady name or where was it the point where 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.200 it was like this is it? Like? Oh no? You know? 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:57.960 I mean I don't. I don't really talk about it, 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.680 but I'm just saying, like, you know, I feel like, 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:06.480 you know there were um, you know, I've been to 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.880 Canada before. I can't I'm banned from Canada because I'm 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.200 I'm banned from Canada, Like I can't get back. I 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.319 can't get back over there, right really, yeah, I ain't 0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:18.000 allowed to be go back over That's why. But because 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.920 what I think is when where they think that you 0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.640 went too far? I don't care. I don't care they're 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.520 too far. I don't play like that. That's how you 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.880 don't play with me, right right right, that's why you 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.399 don't play with me. There is no too far. It's 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:39.200 not anything alone. It leaves me be, leave me be 0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.680 because there's no too far. That's how it goes. But 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.480 that's the thing. No, no, no, they won't play. That's 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:48.520 the thing you felt like you went to I never 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.759 go to far. There's too far. There's no too far. 0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:56.919 Absolutely promise you. Did you ever feel like I never 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.160 felt nothing. And anybody who ever told me that I 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:05.640 was I went too far. I never spoke to me like, okay, 0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:08.640 because let's be visited. Let's just be visited. How everyone 0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:10.960 thinks this started was it started from the M to 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.520 me too, I don't know. I don't even know at 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.400 this point. No, no, for for real, for me, and 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.360 this that's what me from the outside of looking at 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.080 that's an insider, that's an outside of it. Though. For me, 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.560 when you go all the way back to all of that, 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:28.080 I remember just a very dark time for me just musically, um, 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.080 not having you know, being and uh what you call it, 0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:36.200 um like a label drama or whatever and um and 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.480 I remember I mean when you go back and mr 0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.560 me too, you're talking about the Wayne thing, and that's 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.480 what it was. It trickle down. But yeah, because I 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.480 mean there was like some Vibe issue where he was, 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.399 you know, we was, you know, we're just I think 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:55.200 we're just done. Um what's up on? What happened to 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:59.000 that boy or something? You know, maybe a little bit yeah, 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.560 burning on later on down the line, people were telling 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.719 Wayne he was, you know, trying to talk dope like 0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:10.560 the clips or drugs and and and he wore babe 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.840 like the clips. I never said that, you know what 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.480 I'm saying. And I think just at this particular time, 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.080 it was a rough time for us because we was 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.000 going through label drama whatever you remember that, like the 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:27.360 four year hiatus and and so then there was a 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.200 there was a Vibe article where he you know, just 0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.480 spoke to that. But he just spoke about us in 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:39.360 a very um yeah, like a down you know, like 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.160 down talking. And I'm like, damn, we already going through 0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:44.959 were going through and you know, you're not even bright 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.080 enough for smart enough at the you know, at the time, 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.640 like I ain't. I ain't got no problem with Wayne. 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.640 I mean, just so we clear, I ain't. You know. 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.920 It's so Wayne is that same artist at that club. 0:39:54.000 --> 0:40:00.520 You're gonna gonna you might not necessarily, but I it's cool, 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.880 like it, it's cool, but it's no problem. But I 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.120 just you know, you never know, you just know how 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:12.399 it is. But you know. So that's what for me 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:18.160 back then, what you know what started? Um, I feel 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.520 like everything else was just you know, as of late, 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:29.200 it was a lot of like just the Kanye drama 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.239 because next to it, depending in me, would have been 0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.400 like what you doing this concert for? Was the name 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.960 of the concert? I don't remember, Yeah, but like what 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.760 you doing this concert for? We went to ball depending 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.680 but you know, at the same time, you gotta I reckon. 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.680 I know how to compartmentalize everything. That's that's my gift. 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:53.480 J got together. It was needed for hip hop. Do 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.279 you think that? No, I don't even think they make 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.920 good music together. That's the wildest part. Like, ain't even 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:05.600 like a hot record? Name it glow what? What glowing up? When? 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:12.040 Come on? Why? I gotta google it? Come on? So 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.759 it's not like for real for me, just them doing 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:16.640 what they did, I felt like that was good for 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.279 them because it was hard. Listen. I thought Kanye looked amazing. 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.400 One like he looked. I mean because the Scotty just 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:31.080 showed you know, our artist with the E you know 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:36.400 what I'm saying, like next level? What what that? Whatever? 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:42.560 Is that like? But with that being said, like you know, 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:46.040 I don't damn, I forgot where I was at. You 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.399 said you thought Kanye looked good, but oh yeah, I thought, 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:49.840 you know, I think that was good for them, Like 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.520 I think that was yeah, Like I you know, and 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.920 I don't you know, I don't ever put no type 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.040 of pressures nowhere. I don't you know, I'll stay out 0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:03.439 of the situation because they playing, they're playing, they play 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.880 an industry game. I think Kanye said he's on a 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.880 professional level and that's and that's cool and that's great 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.000 and that's like you know, I feel like I feel 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.560 like that's gonna work for for them and what it 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.719 is that they do what you no, I'm cool. I'm 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.239 just I'm just over here, bro. I know exactly what 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.160 my lane is. I know exactly what I'm doing. I 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.319 know exactly who I want to be with, who I 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:30.520 want to make records with. I know what I'm not doing. 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:34.880 I know what damages my brand what doesn't. And there's 0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:39.120 absolutely no value in that for me because immediately when 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.200 we heard that can wrist on uh and then hold 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:46.239 set a blue bird money. They go again, Oh no, 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:48.840 I didn't want that. No no no, no, no no 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.239 no no no no no no no no no no 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.920 no no no no I blue bird money. Y'all talking 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.640 Twitter feed feed bird you know bird food is you 0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:02.960 know they called the feed. But but you got me, 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.440 That's what I'm just saying like that. But that was 0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:08.480 the first Yeah, but it was just I knew that 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.560 was but I just knew it was not understanding. I 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:21.000 was into all the gossip. Noo, he's the other fans 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:24.520 at frequency that really brought into it until what's my 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.319 man name, young g Yeah, actually went on. It was 0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:33.640 like guys, I mean that's when I knew. That's when 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.120 I knew it was like it probably got too loud 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.560 when I saw Guru say something, cause I'm like, I've 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.080 seen it, but I'm like, whatever, ain't that's gonna blow over. 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:45.719 But it wasn't real because it's kind of like, just 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.920 think about the people that you have beef with and 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:52.759 you survived Little Way Birdman and Drake and you have 0:43:53.000 --> 0:44:09.239 no like scars. For me, it's none, none, but it's 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:14.960 all up. It's all up. There's no with me. I 0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.160 have no issues man, And you're bad from Canada. I 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.759 thought you was just saying that. Oh no, no, no, 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.600 I'm serious and this is this I did you know? 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.279 How did you know he was bad? My my, my 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:30.120 manage over here told me what happened. Well, I mean, 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:34.359 I'm not gonna get into that, but down Trump asked 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:42.920 him do nothing because Trump, and um, yeah, what what 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:45.560 you said? Trump? You're talking about you can put it 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.200 in here. What are you talking about? So you said, 0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:53.000 let's just be clear. You're saying you went to what 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:59.279 is called customs. They you turn down, turn out, I 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.800 can turn out of the border. Oh so you filled 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:11.000 out for your visa and they yes, what did you 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.560 do in cant I didn't do nothing. I went to 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.600 my show. You know it was rolling people at this 0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:19.800 show perform that song. I performed. No, I didn't. I 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:26.200 didn't even get and I got on and I got 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.000 on my way. You know, it was cool. That's playing 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:30.560 a different game. You get a nicke a bath from 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:35.399 the country. That's a little next level. That's a little 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:39.000 bit that's a little different. On this listen, that's a 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.120 little different. I ain't gonna I could do it. I 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.400 would do it too, though, you would definitely do that. 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:49.560 Definitely sold off show, Jesus. So in no world, we're 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:53.960 never gonna squash this. Hopefully in one world. No, I don't. 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.719 There's nothing for me to squash. I've done it all, 0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.440 it's done. I'm done. Yeah, I'm finished. I'm cool. Yes, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.319 that's nothing for me to do. That's a beautiful thing, man, 0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:21.400 because gratulate that's positive. Really you guys the flowers, hey, man, uh, 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:23.200 we don't know if you know. Our show was about 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:27.480 giving people they flower and we one million percent want 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:29.799 to give you your flowers to your face. How great 0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.560 you are, how you standing up the time. Man, I've 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.040 seen how you came and for you to still be 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.799 at the level of relevancy, for people to still for 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.920 you to make an album the way you may and 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.120 not like I said, because I'm your friend, because I'm 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.720 I feel like a family member. Especially we all under 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.640 the thing Snoop said, Well, he said, we're all under 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.200 the dray tree, and we're all under the neptune tree, 0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.960 under the rape away leave a Bark or even the 0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:57.319 fucking route. We're all part of the tree. And so 0:46:57.360 --> 0:46:58.960 I can't tell you how much I'm proud of you. 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.240 I can't tell you how much I'm proud of your brother. 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.279 Every time I see you, every time i've seen him 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.520 for the last couple of years, I've been always drunk 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.960 and he's always prayed over me. It's been the weirdest. 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:15.840 That's right. The apoint he's come in here, he'd be 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:21.719 crowding you right now. We're in the middle, and I 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.120 just want to tell y'all, yo, man's for standards as 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:25.719 of time. The way you have and the way you 0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:29.040 are still enjoying this game is still being a bar lord. 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.440 And I can't even find a whack ball. I've been 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.839 looking like Dean slip here. He didn't slip it and 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.279 you haven't. And I just want to say that is abnormal. 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.919 That is not a normal thing. And slute you, my brother, 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:51.839 Thank you. We want to yes, yes literally literally gave 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.759 yourself fly, So man, that is crazy. Before we're gonna 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.279 create time and slip, I just want to go through 0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:05.719 this playlist all Stewart, go to go hit number one 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:13.160 before me. It's in your group chat fun black it ristone. 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:22.759 Uh Well, Brambleton Okay, yeah, that's one. Yeah, okay, let's 0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:27.280 talk about that sets off the album? Yeah. Um, well, first, 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:32.759 you know, Brambleton Um set off the album. You know, 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:38.359 strategically I put that there because Big started Life after 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:41.399 Death with his story and I always felt like, man, 0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.520 you know, I've never first of all, I never do 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.480 many stories. And then I was like, man, I actually 0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:50.359 got one, and I felt like it was strong enough 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:54.239 to just just set the tone. You know what I'm saying. Um, 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:58.120 Brambleton Avenue is as a place in um Norfolk, Virginia. 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:02.640 UM youth coming up. My mom worked on it, you 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:04.399 know what I'm saying. You could you know, I could 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.120 go see her young you know, young kid going to 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.280 see her. I can see sweepe w across the street 0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:13.000 in a project called Young's Park, and you know, just outside, 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:19.480 you know, being great, whatever the case may be. Um, 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:24.960 you know, Uh, the song itself, the song itself was 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:30.880 just for me, just describing a relationship, you know, describing 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:35.280 a relationship I had in the street. My former manager. 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.759 He was on Glad not too long ago. Oh is 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.040 that the same person that you made the snitch? Uh? 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.839 You know, I feel like the Snitch record. I feel 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:54.600 like the Snitch record was like an amy, but it 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:56.799 was just like a lot. I feel like the Snitch acronym. 0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.759 I mean, the Snitch record itself was just like a 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:01.920 All the just instances and ship that was going on 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:07.840 this record, particularly right here, was like yo, Like after 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.120 seeing after seeing the interview, I was like, damn, Like 0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:14.239 that's you know you described you described he was on 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.120 TV talking about what because she was on Glad TV 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.839 and he spoke about how like he said, um, I 0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:26.839 believe one of the quotes was of everything was about him, 0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:35.080 like you know, the raps were about him and uh 0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:38.560 and what else was it? It was? It was just 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.960 a couple of different things that I was like, damn, man, 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:47.440 Like you know, I never I never I would see 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:51.480 somebody that I've been you know, so you know, down 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.920 with or whatever entrenched in like all types of ship, 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.279 never down talk or try to downplay me like I 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:01.279 never I would not like wherever we're stand right now, 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.440 I would never do it. I've never done it, you 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:08.799 know what I'm saying. And I just didn't, you know, 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.759 so I took the time that I was just you know, 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.120 I was telling for all about the whole situation or whatever. 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.920 He was like, man, that's the song right there. He's like, 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:19.279 that's a song. And you know, I was like, you know, 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.880 I just wanted to give like a real context to 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.200 what my view of our relationship and what it was. 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:31.279 Then you know what, I'm like, just what our relationship was, 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.960 what it was in the streets, and and I wanted 0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:39.920 to make that record because I feel like it was 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:44.000 a it was it speaks to loyalty, like it speaks 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:50.239 to loyalty and being loyal and and and understanding the 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:54.720 idea of team like back then, and and and and 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.839 you know, just when all the street ship was going on, 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.239 and I always looked at it as a team, all 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.680 of us was a team. Now you may have this much, 0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:09.439 I could have this much, They could have this much, 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:14.319 but all of it and everybody was working to for 0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.239 the betterment of everybody, and everybody had a role. That 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.759 was the thing. Never looked at, you know, never been envious. Never, 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:23.400 That's just my whole ship. I ain't never been envious. 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:28.440 And nobody musically, none of that. That's just not me. Um. 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.920 I always know how important my role is to whatever 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.279 situation it is, Like, you know, even being a good music. 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.960 I don't sell the most records. I ain't never been 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:40.400 you know, I don't sell the most record more than 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:44.359 anybody else who's been over there whatever. Always Still you know, 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:49.600 I'm me, like, I know what I bring to the table, um, 0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:52.560 and you know, I just that song was just for 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:56.759 for for the guys who honestly are in these positions 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.120 and in these roles and are doing anything and you 0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:02.239 think that you you know, you think that, y'all. You 0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:05.319 know you're you're you're focused, and you're determined on what 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.080 it is that you're doing. You're getting your money, your 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:12.200 man getting his money, bla blah, and you're thinking his 0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:16.399 teamwork and and and in their mind they call it. 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:20.400 You know, you're working for them. And you know, ultimately, 0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:22.839 as soon as the roles change or whatever the case 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.439 may be, you see who gets to you see people 0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:33.400 true colors. Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, heavy song, heavy song. I 0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:37.279 didn't know that. Listening to that just ain't gonna my 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:42.359 head now because again I wasn't listening to it for that. 0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:46.040 I was listening to it. Yeah, I was just listening 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:50.000 to totally. I'm just looking at the art and I'm like, 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.759 it's no way that Scott can still be this good. 0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:54.600 Like I like, I'm sorry I was down because I 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.640 wasn't downing you'd like to doubt you, but I was like, 0:53:56.680 --> 0:54:01.160 it's no way because it's just a level of success. 0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:05.520 But you know, we we are the error that is 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:09.160 going to be able to take We're we're we are 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:10.920 the error that is going to be able to see 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:15.799 if hip hop can be progressive as it ages. Like 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:17.560 you know what I'm saying, like this is the time 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:21.600 where it figures itself, act, go to real distance, you know, 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:26.560 get on our YouTube, rolling stones whatever. I think like 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.080 the four four fourth album kind of helped that. I 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.680 don't know, yeah, but but that even still that was 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:36.759 the hope is one that he's before our error. He's 0:54:36.800 --> 0:54:40.480 wonder for us. Yeah, so you need to like, and 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:42.239 I'm talking about for the genre to look like it 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:46.040 can do. What to do? He dispeccially and he called 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:49.879 on early. But we are the class that is gonna 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:54.759 be myself ya you know everybody, you know, everybody within 0:54:54.920 --> 0:54:57.839 this time frame, it's gonna be the one to show 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:02.640 how far this ship can go a real so so 0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.040 so it's not I don't think it's that crazy like 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:08.600 you know, being you know, still competing, like because we 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:12.560 were still competitive, like you said, we're still young, we 0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:15.640 are like and when that comes the spirit of competition 0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:19.800 and creativity has no age limits, right sure, And however 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:23.120 you tap into it if it's being competitive, some people 0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:25.600 do it differently, you know, just to tap into that creativity. 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:29.200 For sure. I saw number two. Let the smokers shot 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:31.680 the coop. Let the smoker shot the coops. Man. That 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:33.960 was that was me asking for real to give me 0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:40.759 his best best glaciers of ice type beat he could 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:44.440 he could ever make. Um, you know? That was that 0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:50.839 was that Actually that that record actually came from Hit 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.719 Factory again at six in the morning. But we was 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:57.680 at hit Factory because you know at Miami, Miami Hit Factory, 0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:01.040 and we were like, um, you know, we have been 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:02.400 working out the house for a little while and I 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.759 felt like he just wanted a different changes scenery, like 0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.680 you know, sort of exhausted the energy there and we 0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:10.279 started going to Hit Factory earlier. Baby, don't working out 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:19.960 hit Factory to I ain't seen nobody that is not 0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:26.040 even being funny actually, but you know, but just you know, 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:30.880 just just working um again. And it was it was 0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.400 you know, it was a it was a thing for me, 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:37.600 you know, being being an actual being, an actual student. 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:41.960 Um with the flow, you know what I'm saying, Like no, 0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.640 you can't you know, right and right and right and 0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:47.880 and like ah no, I ain't know where the cadence at, 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:52.080 where the bounce you know what I'm saying. And then yeah, 0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.439 like you know it might be an initial initial four 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.239 bars here like yeah, but it ain't no bounce there 0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.279 and ain't sticky to the ain't sticky to the track? 0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:03.040 Is it just y'all two in the studio together? Probably yeah, 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.279 this day, this particularly, I don't know if Chat made 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:13.080 it yet. I don't know if Chat he he did, 0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:14.880 he did. I think he did a little co producing 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:21.280 on some stuff too as well. Okay, um dreaming dreaming, 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:27.600 dreaming of the past, dreaming in the past. Um man, 0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:32.080 I actually stole that one because, um, let's talk about 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:35.920 the theft. Yeah, because because you know, a lot of 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:40.600 times me and you work on album simultaneously. So he 0:57:40.720 --> 0:57:43.440 got a folder, I got a folder. You know. Hell 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:45.640 he picked all the beats and be like okay, that's 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.520 your folder, that's my folder. And from other producers. Um, 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.160 some his and yeah, and just you know, just a 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:56.520 hard driver that he has of just joints and he'll 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.200 he'll he'll pick stuff that he thinks is a good 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:03.680 enough skeleton and for me to rhyme to. He he accidentally, 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.040 I think, played hit that beat and I was like, oh, 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.840 that's crazy, like let me let me get that, and 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:11.600 he's like, no, I love it. You know it's mine, 0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.840 this is and that, and I kept asking for it. 0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:18.760 So ultimately he um, I noticed he still hadn't wrote 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:20.880 the song yet, and I was like, damn, man, you 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:23.640 don't like the song. Let me get the song. And 0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:26.720 he finally let me get it, and I was just like, listen, 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.800 why don't you why don't you just put like, you know, 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:30.480 eight bars on the end of it or you know 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:32.480 what I'm saying. Like that way I could lock in 0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:34.920 the song. If he knew he was on it, then 0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.080 then I could get it. So that's that's what we did, 0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:42.080 and then it became your yea. I first recorded it 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:44.640 with the attentions going on no no, no, I didn't 0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:47.200 even know. I like once I once I got it, 0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:49.000 Once I got it and put the verses on it. 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.400 He Um he heard it was like man, I can't 0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:53.959 be on that. And I was like, no, you can't. 0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:56.520 Like what's up, just get yours off? And I gave 0:58:56.560 --> 0:59:01.040 him the comparison of Big Big coming in for like 0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:05.920 three bars on Little Kim Queen Bitch, and I was like, 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:08.440 I was like, bro, everything you do don't gotta be 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.280 heavy lifting. You already produced to be Why you gotta 0:59:11.360 --> 0:59:16.960 have it? Ain't all that like. And I feel like 0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:19.560 that's why the record wasn't written in the first place. 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:21.160 It was you know, it was heavy. You know, you 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:23.760 gotta go in on that joint. He probably taking his 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.240 time whatever. I'm like, broa give it to me. Get 0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:30.480 yours off. You can get yours off in four bars 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.840 now before we go, because I want to go right 0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:38.080 back into the album. But before we get into that. 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:41.760 Who was you at when you see ye say Shaw 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:48.400 was the worst thing he's up? Side down? Was? I 0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:50.720 think I was at the crib? Yeah, I think at 0:59:50.760 --> 1:00:00.920 the crib um. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, you know, 1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:04.800 you know, I feel like, um, they'll be having they'll 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:08.640 be having a little they their issues, bro, Like you know, 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.400 you know, listen, man, you can have issues with you man, 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.960 people people. You know, he he's a different different back 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:18.080 and forth, you know what I'm saying. So they was 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:20.920 having their issues and I guess he felt, you know, 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:22.479 they need to get it off. And we don't see 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:26.280 him that often, you know, doing like you you got 1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:37.320 you got the interview hit me to but yeah, you know, 1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:40.680 um and I feel like, um, you know, he probably 1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:43.200 was just getting whatever whatever he felt off his chest. 1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:46.080 But they they they be having a little back and 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:48.600 force as well. And then it was it wasn't a 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.720 call did you got for Big Sean after that direct or? No? Um, 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:55.680 then you got to see him back on drink big No. No, 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:57.560 I didn't get no call. I didn't. I don't think 1:00:57.600 --> 1:01:02.440 I got a call. Um, Damn I did. I know 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:04.160 I did, I didn't. I mean I didn't discuss it. 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:07.000 I wouldn't discuss it, man, Like that's that's their ship. Man. 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:10.040 You know why I say that because other than you 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:14.360 be what you know over y'all, I feel like you're 1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:20.440 the most level minded. I'm for sure the most level mind. Like, 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:25.240 let's just be sure the most the other guy, I'm 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:29.959 very much everyone, I'm fair level level minded. I don't 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:39.040 you know, I don't meddle stay I'm never gonna be 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:42.000 on another record, said Cutty, please just clear this strong. 1:01:43.120 --> 1:01:46.000 Please cut I know, I know, I know you because Cutty, 1:01:46.120 --> 1:01:51.960 you know, Cutty's like Cutty my brother. Like Cutty's like, man, 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:56.440 he really gonna stand on what it is that he 1:01:56.680 --> 1:01:58.480 you know what I'm saying, whatever, whatever it is that 1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:00.600 he had an issue with, he gonna staying on that. 1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:04.280 So man, you don't even know, like he was the 1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:08.280 last person cleared on the album, Like you know what 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:09.800 I'm saying, Like, so you know, you're getting down to 1:02:09.880 --> 1:02:14.560 the wire, You're getting like because he was holding right 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:16.680 like you know, I'm in the studio. I'm in the 1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:19.440 studio doing like radio drops and he called me and 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:24.040 I'm like, bro, please, I know, I know, but just 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:26.680 you know, why why did you know? Because the label 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:30.120 I told you that he was Yeah, so I you know, 1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:32.560 I heard. I heard. After a while, like when I'm 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:34.000 you know, I'm just wondering, like, you know, what's the 1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:36.000 you know, what's the progress with the album as far 1:02:36.080 --> 1:02:38.160 as turning it in and handed in because the music 1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:40.479 have been done. So I'm like I'm trying to figure 1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:42.280 out what's the days gonna be, you know, just and 1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:44.880 I can't get these answers and nobody's saying nothing for 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:47.800 a long time. Everybody just being now, you know, we're 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:49.600 just getting it together. And then it finally got to 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:53.240 come out there it was cutting, and I was like, damn. 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:57.200 So he ended up calling me and you know, just 1:02:57.440 --> 1:03:01.080 just telling me like you know, um, just telling me 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.120 how he felt and telling me he was he's gonna 1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:05.680 clear it and you know, it's never nothing about me, 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.920 and you know, but he was like, yo, this this 1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.640 the last one with me. I heard you had hired 1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:14.160 a video director and everything. I hired a video director. 1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:16.840 I've seen the video director the other night. Seeing him 1:03:16.880 --> 1:03:20.040 the other night, told me, uh, you know, told me 1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.320 how they got had the treatment together me me, and 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:26.640 you picked this predicted particular dude, you know, and he 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:29.320 was like no, no, no, he was like you know, 1:03:29.440 --> 1:03:31.760 and everything just blew up. I was like, yeah, and 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:33.840 I don't know if we're ever gonna do it. So 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.520 you got to hear the information prior to it being public. 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:40.960 What's that that that? Yeah? Last? Ye? So he actually 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:44.280 called you and then send the tweet out that like 1:03:44.360 --> 1:03:49.880 I never I know, man, that's the you know, cutting 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:53.320 fans is rabid, like they are rabbid as soon as 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:55.919 he does something, say something and go crazy. I'm gonna 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:59.760 tell you. I'm gonna tell you all. Uh, I'm gonna 1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:01.360 tell you, um something that Cutty differ for me that 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:03.920 a lot of people don't know. I was just like 1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:08.440 in this weird space, right, and um, I think I was. 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:12.240 I was on tour with the group called Mastercraft, remember that, 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:17.280 remember recorded that joining at our studio Mastercraft, and they 1:04:17.320 --> 1:04:20.400 were like a Canadian like d M Man and they 1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:24.400 wanted me to do it. So I was in this 1:04:24.640 --> 1:04:27.160 like weird world and I would just go and just 1:04:27.440 --> 1:04:32.120 did tonight show like a whole bunch of these what work. 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:34.640 It was like a little crazy year of my life, right. 1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:37.320 But I wasn't going to like hip hop clubs and 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:39.800 I wasn't definitely wasn't going to like real world hip 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:43.600 hop clubs and cut I think I forget how cutting 1:04:43.600 --> 1:04:45.200 out in contact with me or how we even spoke 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:47.240 and he said you'll come to my show tonight, and 1:04:47.280 --> 1:04:49.280 I was like, I was like for what, Like in 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:50.960 my mind I said for what, I didn't think what 1:04:51.080 --> 1:04:54.800 to them, but I was like, how I identified with 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:58.080 your audience. I'm this guy that's over here doing this 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:01.080 different type of music at this point, like where did 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:04.840 this correlate? And he brought me out and then he 1:05:04.960 --> 1:05:06.840 had me do all these neptune records. I don't know 1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:09.240 if you remember that. And he was like, well is 1:05:09.320 --> 1:05:13.400 God in our world? And you brought God? So your 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:15.800 God in our world? And I had never thought up 1:05:16.120 --> 1:05:21.080 like that in this Hi the crownd with me doing 1:05:22.200 --> 1:05:26.720 like courting fucking purgatory and hip hop purgatory and that 1:05:26.840 --> 1:05:29.760 this hits the crowd that for real and kind of 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:34.440 like made this whole audience and I can still be 1:05:34.520 --> 1:05:37.560 who I am, and and and and Kid Cutty was 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:39.520 the first person to show me that your brother, you 1:05:39.680 --> 1:05:42.240 your God in this audience because we we we looked 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:44.960 at the audience like we're those people were bonzoes ourselves. 1:05:45.160 --> 1:05:47.240 He was like all those guys, you know, they were 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:51.120 backpacks and you know they do cocaine in the bathroom. 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:55.920 Is different, differ different, you know, you know, but not 1:05:56.040 --> 1:06:04.040 realize audience is okay, okay, the record Neck and Wrist 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:08.080 don't live now. First off, let's just be clear. You're 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:12.880 using drug dealers anonymous. Yeah, you're using this So this 1:06:13.120 --> 1:06:23.600 is favorite dose. Yeah, it's not favorite, right, Yeah, hey, man, 1:06:23.680 --> 1:06:29.280 here's my ship. This is his favorite number two. They 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:32.360 just don't get a little favorites from the guard. Man. 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:38.080 It's the man as y'all making the record. You're saying, 1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:41.000 we're calling the guard as you're making the record or you. 1:06:41.600 --> 1:06:43.800 As soon as I lay diverse. As soon as I 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:47.200 lay diverse, the hook is there. I was like listening 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:49.880 for Mattes so he has a space. A matter of fact, though, 1:06:49.880 --> 1:06:54.320 it was like the bridge everything, and I was like, 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:59.560 just leave him open space. And man, I just emailed 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:03.160 it to him. See me personally, the name of the 1:07:03.240 --> 1:07:06.600 record would have scared me to send it to him, 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:18.560 because you know, neck and Risk don't lie. Yeah, I've 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:22.480 when I had drinks with him one time he had 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:27.520 on just the light three point five not a stone 1:07:27.560 --> 1:07:31.800 inside it was it was believe it's a paddock um 1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:35.440 uh factory. Though they called it the poplo Escobar or 1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:39.680 something like this. I didn't even want to ask point 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:45.000 five day. That was the that was the That's the 1:07:45.040 --> 1:07:47.680 only reason I call him though, honestly, I mean about 1:07:47.760 --> 1:07:50.040 music when it comes to music. When it comes to music, 1:07:50.600 --> 1:07:52.920 because I wrote a second verse for it, it just 1:07:53.080 --> 1:07:57.440 didn't hit like I wanted it to hit so um 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:00.080 and I only reached like I said, I own. They 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.800 reach out to him musically when I feel like the 1:08:03.960 --> 1:08:06.960 song needs an uptick, like to take it to the 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:11.480 next level. And we got Jupiter, yeah for sure. And 1:08:11.560 --> 1:08:13.920 I mean neck and wrisk don't lie. I knew. I 1:08:14.120 --> 1:08:17.360 know that he's gonna say twelve things that I can't say. 1:08:18.200 --> 1:08:20.360 You know what I'm saying, Like I could. There's other 1:08:20.600 --> 1:08:23.840 artists who could have been on it, but they're not 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:32.040 gonna They're not gonna say too much. Yeah, yeah, we 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:36.920 got different sobs to like I was done. I was done, 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:43.560 like I needed all. I was done. But yeah, so 1:08:43.640 --> 1:08:45.519 I just reach out to him. I reach out to him, 1:08:45.920 --> 1:08:47.800 you know when I feel about Spade for you just 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:50.240 in case, you know, to celebrate your album. You know 1:08:50.280 --> 1:08:58.000 what I mean? Yeah, you know, yeah, you know. I 1:08:58.400 --> 1:09:00.400 reach out when I when I feel like he can 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:02.840 add something to the add something to the song that 1:09:03.439 --> 1:09:05.800 I just can't do. And and it was dope because 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:08.040 you've got the guys got the premiere on our Heart 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:12.320 every hour on the hour. So the person didn't like y'all, 1:09:12.360 --> 1:09:14.880 they got, they got to not like your more because 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:19.080 every hour on. I mean explain that to an artist, 1:09:19.800 --> 1:09:22.000 you gonna be right back into the album. But is 1:09:22.080 --> 1:09:23.960 that like a plus when you could be able to 1:09:24.040 --> 1:09:26.240 just go straight out of the gate and get it 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:30.120 on on on the radio because of you know, who 1:09:30.200 --> 1:09:32.360 you are and the person you have on it. Yeah, 1:09:32.520 --> 1:09:36.400 I mean, you know, I think that. Um. I think that. Um. 1:09:38.240 --> 1:09:40.479 You know, when when you can when you can get 1:09:40.520 --> 1:09:45.599 a record on radio and and people and it gets 1:09:45.680 --> 1:09:50.519 that head start, that jump start. Um, you usually do 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:53.600 that in trying to make sure that that record is 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:57.240 gonna go like really you know, try to chart some 1:09:57.360 --> 1:09:59.040 on and so forth, and you still feel that radio 1:09:59.080 --> 1:10:01.840 has that impact day. Yeah, I think so. I think so. 1:10:02.040 --> 1:10:06.760 I think I think um, I think radio is very important. Um. 1:10:07.040 --> 1:10:09.360 I think for what it is that we do, man, 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:12.920 we need to check off every box what I'm saying, Yeah, 1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:18.479 for sure, for sure, like we need to check off 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:24.000 every box. And that was that was something that like 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:28.479 just out of respect of who it was on the song. 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:31.360 I'm like, I'm really fighting like nah, at the end 1:10:31.360 --> 1:10:33.760 of the day, I want people to get a song 1:10:33.840 --> 1:10:36.600 it needs that look, I mean, the profile of the 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:39.080 of the artist on it, the features, you know, him 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:41.920 and Forelis is too high for not to get that. Look, 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:45.080 I don't necessarily make radio records, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:45.160 --> 1:10:47.960 But then the video, it's gonna be like a headache 1:10:48.960 --> 1:10:50.719 the video. We we we're not gonna do a video, 1:10:52.280 --> 1:10:55.479 you know what's crazy video? You know what's crazy which 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:58.320 people would appreciate if you was to do a video 1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:02.400 where you're not even in there. Oh no, we we 1:11:02.640 --> 1:11:05.080 we will do something like that. But I'm saying, I'm 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:08.120 you know, for people thinking we're gonna shoot like hovers 1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:12.200 coming to sit on a set video, It's not happening. 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:17.519 It's not happening. Yeah, which I mean me, I would 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:19.560 have shot it in his house, you know, just so 1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:26.720 he didn't have to. But nah, but you know, end 1:11:26.760 --> 1:11:28.439 of the day, man, I think that I think that 1:11:28.560 --> 1:11:30.960 record had the impact and it and it talked to 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:35.599 our core, my core and his core. I think they're 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:38.200 the same. Yeah. Yeah, so let's move on to the 1:11:38.320 --> 1:11:41.560 next record just so you remember, Yeah, just so you 1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:44.880 remember who you're dealing with. That's uh, that's the rap 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:48.599 moment on the album to me, like the heavy rat moment, 1:11:49.160 --> 1:11:54.040 uh stripped down beat and you know, it's one of 1:11:54.120 --> 1:11:56.800 my favorite records, but it stayed in more of that 1:11:57.000 --> 1:12:03.880 mixtape lane. You know, M just barring out, barring out. 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:06.000 I don't even know how how many how many lines 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:11.960 it is, but it's a lot. Okay, let's go to 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:17.160 the next record, Diet Coke, Diet Coke. Here's the question 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:20.479 I asked about this. What did y'all call Joey Crack? 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:25.920 And before this, no, we just sampled him. He got 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:30.400 to hear it with us, like, um, like damn, you 1:12:30.479 --> 1:12:37.599 know what somebody might have told him, Okay maybe yeah, 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:40.439 but we dropped as a single, so you gotta clear it. 1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:44.599 So yeah, so probably in the clearance process he he knew, 1:12:44.680 --> 1:12:47.360 but yeah, but yeah, the record was done and he 1:12:47.479 --> 1:12:50.160 was like, nah, you gotta put Joe Crack. In fact, 1:12:50.240 --> 1:12:53.280 Joe on the front of that though Yesterday's prey. Yeah yeah, 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:56.479 he was like, I gotta start like that. That's that's 1:12:56.560 --> 1:13:01.240 to me, is is Jay's biggest um you know his 1:13:01.479 --> 1:13:05.920 um Yeah, that's where his genius comes from. His instincts. 1:13:06.680 --> 1:13:08.400 Like it's fast, Like you know what I'm saying, Like 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:11.960 when when whenever he's in the moment and his musically 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:15.960 and his instincts kick in, You're definitely gonna get a 1:13:16.160 --> 1:13:18.800 gem out of like what it is that that he's 1:13:18.840 --> 1:13:21.080 trying to make or create for you for him who 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:22.880 said black and white video and he's gonna dance like 1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:25.519 that's the whole, the whole thing. He saw the whole 1:13:25.680 --> 1:13:31.920 He saw the listen to listen, change my outfit. I 1:13:31.960 --> 1:13:33.360 didn't have on the leather he wanted me to have 1:13:33.479 --> 1:13:35.439 on the leather I had on like some type of veg. Nah, 1:13:35.600 --> 1:13:39.240 you need the leather to Craig mac big pocket. You 1:13:39.320 --> 1:13:43.280 know you got to have it. But but yeah, like 1:13:43.439 --> 1:13:46.360 he um, he saw the whole vision for that. And 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:49.680 once the record was done, the video was shot the 1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:54.599 next day. So he was like, no, y'all get in here, 1:13:54.640 --> 1:13:56.160 y'all go, you to find a space, go do it. 1:13:56.880 --> 1:14:02.120 And I don't know eight nine was on set. This 1:14:02.280 --> 1:14:12.559 is definitely m budget. Yeah your face, yeah, just now, okay, 1:14:12.640 --> 1:14:17.160 hold on, where were you want to ask this one? 1:14:17.600 --> 1:14:21.320 Rock and roll? Rock and roll heard it's a perfect day, 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:24.960 perfect day. Everybody was there, smoked up. I just do 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:28.320 that out there, ain't I don't know that pot. Everyone 1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:32.599 was cutty, justself robbed in the studio. Ja, it's already, 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:37.760 this is already down. This is a perfect day, perfect record. Yeah, um, 1:14:38.560 --> 1:14:42.400 you know, um, just really good day. Um. Yeah. Yeah. 1:14:42.439 --> 1:14:45.880 He just was like he got on the NPC and 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:51.800 start chopping the Beyonce one plus one sample and you know, 1:14:51.960 --> 1:14:54.720 like you said, Cutty came through. Um, the only thing 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:59.840 he couldn't find. Yeah, but the only thing you couldn't 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:05.040 find on that day, um was the drums. And so 1:15:05.280 --> 1:15:07.519 you know it takes me a second just to write anyway. 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:12.559 So um, you know, by the time he was like, Yo, 1:15:12.680 --> 1:15:14.880 sending this to Farrell, let him put his drums on it. 1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:17.639 So that's the only record they worked on collaborating. That's 1:15:17.640 --> 1:15:19.320 the only record it was because of that, because he 1:15:19.360 --> 1:15:21.240 couldn't figure out the drums. Yeah, I mean, he just 1:15:21.520 --> 1:15:24.559 he just didn't have like I remember just going through 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:27.040 drums and none of it was hitting to his liking. 1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:28.840 None of it was hitting to his liking. And he 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:30.840 was like, Yo, send this to send this to p like, 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:33.280 tell him put his drums on it. Because had he 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:35.519 not figured had he figured out the drums, it might 1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:39.479 have been a collaborative record, right right, It wasn't you know, 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:42.080 it wasn't supposed to be Like he he'd be in 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:44.640 the moment lack of a better term for back then, 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:47.000 it was supposed to be like a side B side, right, 1:15:47.400 --> 1:15:50.800 was it? That's supposed to be to be Okay, for sure, 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:54.960 that's good for this this next record. I feel like, 1:15:56.240 --> 1:15:58.200 and let's be so we're not getting the kid cutting 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:00.680 and Kanye video, and if we do get it, it's 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:03.000 could be in separate rooms because that can still I 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:05.760 would like, I mean, listen to performing really well, so 1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:07.519 I think we should. I mean I talked to I 1:16:07.600 --> 1:16:09.920 talked to Cutty yesterday and just was like telling them 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:12.920 how how crazy this song is doing. He's like, no, 1:16:13.160 --> 1:16:15.040 you know, I know I love that record. This isn't 1:16:15.040 --> 1:16:22.800 that so master to this time? You know what? Yeah? Yeah, 1:16:22.920 --> 1:16:25.200 I think I think I think should do it. They 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:27.080 don't have to be in the same we've we've done it, 1:16:27.240 --> 1:16:30.840 We've done this. They don't gotta be yeah cool, let's 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:32.599 go to the next one. For some reason, I feel 1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:33.760 like this is one of your top three or the 1:16:33.840 --> 1:16:39.680 album Call my Bluff, Yeah, call my bluff, Just call 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:44.160 my bluff for sure is top three for me. Um 1:16:45.760 --> 1:16:49.000 simply because it was it was work, it was real work, 1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:53.639 and again it was like you know again me taking 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:57.200 direction and like you know, really hopping in the character 1:16:57.320 --> 1:17:01.800 and really just trying to execute, um, execute what it 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:05.519 is that P wanted me to, you know what what 1:17:05.680 --> 1:17:10.800 he feels is gonna level me up musically. Um man. 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:16.760 You know, the the whole idea of the record um 1:17:17.760 --> 1:17:20.519 came from. I thought I was gonna have an issue 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:25.639 with somebody, right, and I was telling, I was telling 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:29.080 for real about it, and my man had called me, 1:17:29.240 --> 1:17:31.840 was like, oh, you know, you know I heard it 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:34.320 about you know it might be something blas blah blah. 1:17:34.360 --> 1:17:36.479 He was like, well, you know, his girl be trying 1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:39.680 to fuck me all the time. And he was like 1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:42.360 he was like yeah, she'd be in my DMO room. 1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:44.280 Like he was like yeah all the time. He said, 1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:46.400 So I'm a sucker, he's I'm a taper. He said, 1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:48.080 we don't have fun with it. We can't have fun, 1:17:48.240 --> 1:17:50.679 like we canna have fun with this whole ship because 1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:56.600 he was kill him right. And then he was like 1:17:56.720 --> 1:17:58.759 and you know, and and and if you go crazy, 1:17:59.600 --> 1:18:02.479 but if if you get crazy or whatever. He sent 1:18:02.600 --> 1:18:06.080 me to addresses. He was like, you know, it can 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:09.679 go ever I thought about it. I'm thinking to myself, 1:18:09.800 --> 1:18:13.479 like I'm not even on it, like like I'm not, 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.000 I ain't even tripping like that. But I knew it myself, like, yo, 1:18:16.040 --> 1:18:18.200 if I even entertain this. I was excited about it 1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:20.400 the first and then I was like, if I entertained it, 1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:22.200 this is a false that I can't really turn off 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:28.240 because he's not gonna play at all. So um, needless 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:30.120 to say, I told I was telling pe about it, 1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:33.280 and that's where the the nonchalant and I can get 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:35.080 it done. I can't have that, can have it happened 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:41.120 that joker energy, nonchalant. You know what I'm saying, it's 1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:44.760 it's my way. If I really wanted to be my way. Um, 1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:49.360 attitude comes from in the joint. I wouldn't have thought that. Yeah, 1:18:50.479 --> 1:18:53.439 I mean that's just the real backstory, all right. So 1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:56.840 scrap it off, scrape it off the tail, scrape it 1:18:56.840 --> 1:18:58.960 off the top. I just man, the record was the 1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:01.800 track of so was was fun. That's that's your radio 1:19:01.840 --> 1:19:03.840 record to me, you think so to me, to me, 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:07.160 that's what I want to see you in, motherfucking and Grilla, 1:19:07.880 --> 1:19:16.040 Oh mangoes on the y'all chair, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:19:18.400 --> 1:19:21.600 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I think that. 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:26.400 I think I think that that's it. I mean, you know, 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:30.360 I think it's fired. I mean, listen, it's performing crazy. 1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:34.160 You know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like I 1:19:34.200 --> 1:19:37.120 feel like Oozy is the king of the youth for real. 1:19:37.560 --> 1:19:40.559 I feel like Don Tolliver is um when it comes 1:19:40.600 --> 1:19:43.479 to the melodies. I can't go on my Explore page 1:19:43.520 --> 1:19:47.920 and ain't a girl putting on makeup to Don Tolliver's music. Wow, fire, 1:19:48.360 --> 1:19:51.679 you know what I'm saying. He just he he's talking 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:55.519 at that frequency that people rocking with girls are rocking with, 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:58.160 so you you you could be right. I'm just you know, 1:19:59.640 --> 1:20:01.160 you gotta see how do these joints? You know how 1:20:01.240 --> 1:20:08.640 it turns out? Oh? Hear me clearly? Yeah, hear me clearly. Man, 1:20:08.720 --> 1:20:11.519 you know it's crazy. This is this is real talk. 1:20:13.640 --> 1:20:18.240 I don't think anybody here knows this. I probably started 1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:23.600 working with for a reale. I ain't the seven that 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:26.559 had to be because it dropped the Remember back then, 1:20:26.600 --> 1:20:29.559 we had to record a year in evance right as 1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:32.439 much as I've ever been around, for as much as 1:20:32.760 --> 1:20:34.639 it gave me one of the first pair of babes, 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:37.439 and I worried and everyone laughed at me because they 1:20:37.479 --> 1:20:41.240 said those look like freak up towns right to never 1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:45.040 one time, and it's all of these years, has Nego 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:52.400 ever said Hi to me? Wow, God, we've been the same, 1:20:53.600 --> 1:21:00.120 we've been. I've never once He's never like said him. 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:04.920 I might be just as guilty. Yeah, Like I don't 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:06.800 you know, I might be just as guilty because I've 1:21:07.160 --> 1:21:09.719 never probably never said hi back because I never felt 1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:12.720 like I never felt like his energy permitted me to 1:21:12.880 --> 1:21:17.439 say hi. So all these years, all these I've never said. 1:21:17.760 --> 1:21:19.800 Me and Nigo have never spoke. I don't even know 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:28.360 if you can speak English this, I've never seen him speak. Yeah, 1:21:30.760 --> 1:21:32.280 I don't know. I mean, you know, I can't even 1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:33.960 really speak to that. But I you know, I know 1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:37.720 that just with him, it's it's a respect thing and 1:21:37.880 --> 1:21:41.400 like just you know, respecting people's space and just it's 1:21:41.439 --> 1:21:44.640 just what they what they do over there anyway. So 1:21:46.439 --> 1:21:49.400 I mean, he's familiar, like we've met him. We've met 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:51.680 him because of the music. Ye I heard the job 1:21:51.760 --> 1:21:54.280 mat him because of the jury, right, because because well 1:21:54.320 --> 1:21:56.519 he was a fan of the music and then found 1:21:56.560 --> 1:22:01.719 out that he was getting his jury done from from Jacob. 1:22:01.800 --> 1:22:05.080 So he would come and get everything he got in 1:22:05.920 --> 1:22:10.519 three colors with all the best diamonds every time. And 1:22:10.640 --> 1:22:12.879 that's you know that, that's who really made that connection 1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:16.599 as far as Nigo goes. So let's get that record. Yeah, 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:21.360 break down that record. Oh man, hear me clearly, um um, 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:25.200 one of the first records that I did, and you know, 1:22:25.600 --> 1:22:30.200 the beat just had a real um. It just spoke 1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:32.320 to me, and it spoke to the hot sixteen in me, 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:39.679 you know, and you know, just recently, my biggest regret 1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.280 from this album is Nas not being on this record, 1:22:42.600 --> 1:22:46.599 because I um, I did that that the one verse 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:48.759 that I had on it, I sent it to Nas 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:52.640 ages ago, ages ago. As soon as I got I 1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:54.680 was like, no, I want NOAs on this because I 1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:58.360 felt like, um, I know, I just felt like you 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:01.479 would have killed it right, So they got quiet. I 1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:03.719 didn't hear from him for a long time or whatever, 1:23:04.000 --> 1:23:06.280 but I gave it to him so long ago that 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:09.200 I felt like, you know, you know, I gave him time. 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:14.720 So I ran into him at Coake Man, the Korean steakhouse. 1:23:15.479 --> 1:23:19.639 But what is it? Quite? Cet? Yeah? Yeah, quit quite? 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:30.120 I don't know, Yeah, no, don't. Let's all right, So 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:33.519 so man, I ran into him. Man, He's like, Yo, 1:23:33.680 --> 1:23:39.000 what's up in New York? In New York? Man, yeah 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:44.280 he um Man. He brought out thousands of dollars worth 1:23:44.320 --> 1:23:49.080 for wagu and and and sent it over to the table, 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:51.559 came over. We just talked about. I was like, Man, 1:23:51.640 --> 1:23:53.479 you know, I still want you on this record, I said, Man, 1:23:53.479 --> 1:23:55.360 I want you to be I said, I'm gonna put 1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:58.439 this record out because by this time Paris Fashion weekn happen. 1:23:58.920 --> 1:24:01.439 They got the snippet it, it got all the hits 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:04.080 or whatever, and I was like, but I want you 1:24:04.240 --> 1:24:06.519 to still be the last verse because I don't be 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:10.120 the surprise on my album, like you know, because I'm 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:15.680 putting the song on my album for sure what I 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:19.960 was going for, know what I was doing, right, So 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:25.599 so yeah, it just didn't happen. Man, it did not happen. Man, 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:30.760 biggest regret, biggest regret of the album. Okay, moving on 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:35.720 Open Air, Yeah, Open Air. I feel like open There 1:24:36.040 --> 1:24:41.160 was an answer to one of those records, and it 1:24:41.320 --> 1:24:43.600 was either an answer to Dreaming of the Past or 1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:47.479 was an answer to um to hear me clearly that 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:49.599 was for real trying to get in his dark bag 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:53.760 and um just you know, just trying to really just 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:57.800 like man, you couldn't have all the hard records. You 1:24:57.880 --> 1:25:02.360 gotta show he could do it too. Okay, now the 1:25:02.520 --> 1:25:06.960 last one, the best one. You know what was crazy? 1:25:07.840 --> 1:25:12.559 Um When I first listened to it, I didn't look 1:25:12.640 --> 1:25:16.120 at the features on purpose. I wanted to just appreciate 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:19.840 the music about. What I didn't want to do was 1:25:20.200 --> 1:25:23.320 to listen to it in order that you made sometimes 1:25:23.360 --> 1:25:26.439 they shuffle, so that what I kept doing was after 1:25:26.520 --> 1:25:29.439 I was playing it, I went back to the original 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:32.280 playlist to make sure that it was it was correct, 1:25:34.200 --> 1:25:37.680 and you and your brother sounds so good together. I 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:40.680 couldn't know. I couldn't really see where you started. And 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:43.760 he finished that while so I sat back and saying 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:46.519 oh Ship. Like like I said, I didn't look at it. 1:25:46.760 --> 1:25:48.800 I didn't know what he was doing that, and it 1:25:48.920 --> 1:25:52.920 just reminded me like, oh Ship. The young version of 1:25:52.960 --> 1:25:55.439 the clips I remember, you know, I remember the grinding 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:57.720 video me me, me driving out there and me going 1:25:57.800 --> 1:26:00.439 to your hood and seeing like wow, but Jennie is 1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:03.680 really fucking the lood like like and it just but 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:06.040 how hard I know you got a little brother card. 1:26:06.320 --> 1:26:10.000 I've been watching your interviews. But but still this album 1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:12.559 doesn't really represent what he represents. What I mean by 1:26:12.640 --> 1:26:14.760 that is, you know, he's a man of God. He's 1:26:14.760 --> 1:26:16.840 a man Like this wasn't like a Mace move, not 1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:20.160 taking a shot at Mace, but like this was like 1:26:20.520 --> 1:26:24.240 he really doving, Like follow him on Instagram. He has 1:26:24.520 --> 1:26:27.200 people that he preaches to. This is a real full 1:26:27.240 --> 1:26:29.400 fleshed thing. So how do you convince him? Like I said, 1:26:29.479 --> 1:26:30.960 you know, you got a little brother car but other 1:26:31.080 --> 1:26:34.000 than that, because it's like I know you're gonna say, well, well, 1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:37.479 well you got this other content on the here, So 1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:40.040 how do you convince him to do that? Um? You know, 1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:42.760 it wasn't It wasn't really convincing. I think my I 1:26:42.840 --> 1:26:46.880 think my brother is really he's really self aware. Like 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:50.360 he knows. My brother knows he's like the realist. He 1:26:50.520 --> 1:26:52.160 knows he's the realist. So he can put him in 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:58.120 any uh any situation and he just gonna beat him, 1:26:58.240 --> 1:27:01.320 do him. He don't, you know, he doesn't necessarily think 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:05.639 that because he's on a record that has whatever type 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:07.720 of content that you know, if if you let him 1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:11.160 tell it, he getting his message across his points from Yeah, 1:27:11.920 --> 1:27:14.360 you know, and it's competitive for him to he like, man, 1:27:14.439 --> 1:27:17.320 I'm I'm still dope, Like I'm dope, and I can 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.080 be dope saying this, and I can be better than 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:24.400 you saying it, like you know, that's it. So you 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:29.240 know that that that record, Um, I think that record. 1:27:29.360 --> 1:27:37.160 Let everybody know that the possibility of doing Eclipse record 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:41.120 would make a lot of people happy. And and you know, 1:27:41.360 --> 1:27:48.559 just just I don't know, I think that, like I mean, 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:50.960 it's it just be up to him. It's just up 1:27:51.000 --> 1:27:52.960 to him, like it ain't. It ain't even mean. So 1:27:53.040 --> 1:27:58.439 there's no more conversations from that record making it a reality. 1:27:59.000 --> 1:28:01.120 Funny funny thing is he hit me the other day like, oh, 1:28:01.200 --> 1:28:03.840 I see what they're saying. He hit me, hit me 1:28:03.880 --> 1:28:05.280 the other day. He's like, I see what they're saying. 1:28:05.320 --> 1:28:07.679 Ain't He was like, yo, I want you to change 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:13.120 on the credits. Make sure it says malice not no malice. Wow, yeah, 1:28:13.240 --> 1:28:17.280 because I did. I did say no malice. It does. Yeah, No, 1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:21.840 it's malice. It says malice. Hold on, it says malice. Yeah, 1:28:27.360 --> 1:28:32.920 what is this? Did I see? I pray no malice? 1:28:33.400 --> 1:28:37.040 But what is this though? Like that's oh yeah, no, no, 1:28:37.360 --> 1:28:41.680 no on the actual look you no no, but I'm 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:55.800 on another you got because come up schools cocaine. They 1:28:55.880 --> 1:29:03.280 list to cocaine. Google's love You. Yeah, we would be crazy. 1:29:03.320 --> 1:29:05.720 Though you guys pulled off an album together. You can 1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:09.720 that duality can exist. It would be so crazy if 1:29:09.760 --> 1:29:12.479 you work together too long. This is what I remember. 1:29:12.560 --> 1:29:15.000 I remember do from my Hoodie passed away, so I 1:29:15.040 --> 1:29:17.840 don't want to um, but um he was. He told me. 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.639 He was like, yo, I want to get on right. 1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:22.360 He was like, so I want to. I want to 1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:26.400 diss you. And I was like, diss me? What sisters 1:29:26.439 --> 1:29:28.519 that man? He was like no, because you're the biggest artist. 1:29:28.560 --> 1:29:30.679 So if I diss you, I'll get attention. So I said, 1:29:30.680 --> 1:29:32.439 all right, cue, you know what we're doing. Let's let's 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:34.720 let's do it on the same record. You dissed me. 1:29:34.760 --> 1:29:36.599 But I'm gonna be able to go. But I'm gonna sorry. 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:38.920 I really raped. And it made me think about that 1:29:39.000 --> 1:29:42.720 because it was too opposite opinions. And I was like, 1:29:43.040 --> 1:29:45.160 but he never got to do it. He passed away. 1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:47.800 But I think of that when I think of you 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:50.600 and your brother, like you're not changing nothing, nothing, and 1:29:50.720 --> 1:29:53.680 they're not changing, and if the opposite of opinion, but 1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:57.439 it's it's where you guys, you know, correlating when you 1:29:57.479 --> 1:30:00.960 guys go down the same train. You know, even in 1:30:01.080 --> 1:30:05.919 my solo, in my solo career, I still know the difference. 1:30:06.160 --> 1:30:09.000 I still know what I'm missing. Like that's the one 1:30:09.080 --> 1:30:13.840 thing I have not been able to really pinpoint for, 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:16.400 like you know, to to to to sort of give 1:30:16.479 --> 1:30:21.320 to the fans. I know, like the fact of me 1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:25.080 being solo and not being able to really channel and 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:27.640 tap in. I know what the fan is missing when 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:29.640 they just hear me and don't hear him. You know 1:30:29.640 --> 1:30:34.040 what I'm saying, I really really do, And you know 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:36.320 it's something. It's something I used to you know, I 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:41.000 really used to try really hard to do. But still 1:30:41.120 --> 1:30:45.240 to this day, Um, I still don't. I don't hit 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:47.559 the vein. I don't hit the vein properly when they 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:50.519 come to that. He was wrapping before you, my brother 1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:54.799 five years older than me. He's been rapping being everything. 1:30:55.280 --> 1:30:58.040 Do we have a church? No, we need to. We 1:30:58.080 --> 1:30:59.880 need to. We need to hip hop, need to build 1:31:00.360 --> 1:31:05.559 Oh a church, yeah, malice church, he'd kill it. Yeah, 1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:10.679 we need to. We need because UM, Like there's certain 1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:14.040 people who I want to pray all me. Uh be 1:31:14.160 --> 1:31:20.519 like Rev run DMX. Yeah, bro, like you know what 1:31:20.520 --> 1:31:22.720 I'm saying, pray for me, like if I was a thing, 1:31:22.760 --> 1:31:24.519 because I believe in him. Like you know what I'm saying, 1:31:24.520 --> 1:31:26.120 I believe I wanted to do a song with my 1:31:26.240 --> 1:31:29.720 brother that had been crazy, that had been crazy. You're 1:31:29.800 --> 1:31:34.280 a relationship with X correct? Okay, Yeah that was that 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:36.000 was That was a big hold. So we're gonna move 1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:39.160 on right now. By the way, congratulations once again to 1:31:39.439 --> 1:31:43.679 for the album, gratulations for making a masterpiece. I'm gonna 1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:46.200 go ahead and say it's a classic. Thank you. Gonna 1:31:46.240 --> 1:31:51.519 wait for the team you know how everyone else. It's 1:31:51.640 --> 1:31:56.120 definitely a classic. And I'm very glad that you didn't 1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:59.360 let Kanye slack. You didn't let for Real slack because 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:02.160 he's a both very rich people. Before we on the 1:32:02.200 --> 1:32:05.920 Creek time with slide. Yeah you do that. Okay, Yeah, 1:32:06.240 --> 1:32:08.680 this is the watch question. You probably don't even care. 1:32:08.880 --> 1:32:11.719 I probably don't even care. Who got the best watch 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:20.679 game in the game, for real, for real, for real, Okay, 1:32:20.720 --> 1:32:30.400 I'm talking about everybody. I mean, man, it might be 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:35.160 who we have the most expensive watches, a most expensive 1:32:35.920 --> 1:32:43.439 right right, Okay, but no, man, I mean he is 1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:45.720 he strong, he is corect Let me just tell you 1:32:45.760 --> 1:32:48.320 some he was weird Richard Milly's when I thought I 1:32:48.400 --> 1:32:54.439 was That's what I'm getting. I'm talking about. Let me 1:32:54.560 --> 1:32:59.000 talking about first world. We talk about first you gotta really, 1:33:00.240 --> 1:33:03.280 it ain't a lot that he ain't first that. Yeah, 1:33:03.439 --> 1:33:10.240 so it's it's I mean, war Burgers out here disrespectful. 1:33:10.280 --> 1:33:15.160 Who was that Mark Warburg Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:20.000 discussed out here foot and ship too. Yeah. But yeah, 1:33:20.840 --> 1:33:23.080 we all got a six million dollar joint from the 1:33:23.120 --> 1:33:27.240 Moon with the with the with the Moon dusting or something. 1:33:27.320 --> 1:33:29.680 And I was going to you know, you know, like 1:33:30.040 --> 1:33:31.880 we came up together. You can't even say that with 1:33:31.960 --> 1:33:37.240 that watch, like I was gonna take that. Lord, listen, 1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:39.360 he got all the what I mean, and you know 1:33:39.520 --> 1:33:43.439 he only doing the yeah, the one he got a 1:33:43.560 --> 1:33:49.280 new Richard Millie with the Cuban link band from Richard Miller. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:33:51.880 --> 1:33:59.880 excuse me, he calls him richild Yeah, Richard to bed rest, 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:05.880 saying for real, top one jay Z most expensive. Yeah, 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:17.719 I mean, oh, listen, I ain't gonna lie Jabe Albert. 1:34:18.120 --> 1:34:21.519 I said his name correct his time here. Oh yeah, 1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:23.960 you know he's he's he's heavy too. I'm just saying 1:34:24.000 --> 1:34:26.439 that like when when I'm when I'm considering that, you 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:28.720 know the game I'm talking about, like, man, when you 1:34:29.920 --> 1:34:31.800 I feel like Farrell put a lot of people on 1:34:32.800 --> 1:34:36.280 to things. You know what I'm saying. We're talking about 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:38.519 the watches right now, but even that, I feel like 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:42.600 he put people on. Um, you know, it'll be a 1:34:42.640 --> 1:34:44.960 back and forth. I mean, bro, look how far hip 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:47.560 hop is coming. Everybody's a billionaire every day, so it 1:34:47.640 --> 1:34:51.599 can be a new a new most expensive watch every day. 1:34:51.880 --> 1:34:55.240 But I'm talking about you know, when you look at 1:34:55.360 --> 1:34:58.960 who is like, okay, people following culturally like what he did, 1:34:59.080 --> 1:35:01.840 whatever the case may be, I feel like, yeah, like 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:05.519 he's he's like one of those, definitely one of the ones. 1:35:06.000 --> 1:35:14.519 Yeah him, Drake is outside too. I don't know, I'm 1:35:14.560 --> 1:35:17.439 not I don't follow you. I just wanted to see 1:35:17.479 --> 1:35:21.960 your face is spression. I'm sorry. He's pretty ill too. 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.880 Um yeah, but you said for in your book for 1:35:25.160 --> 1:35:27.960 number one watch guy. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna play a 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:31.679 game right now. It's called quick Time with Slim. Sure, 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:34.280 you're familiar with it, let's do it. We're gonna get 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:38.000 you a post choice once or other if you um. 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:42.120 If you pick both, you take a shot for it. 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:44.160 If you're not drinking, we can have somebody come in 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:46.080 and dream. We got Mr Lead come in and drink 1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:47.880 for you if you're not drinking. Because he's been on 1:35:47.960 --> 1:35:50.320 your album. I can tell you I did cocaine deals together. 1:35:51.680 --> 1:35:57.000 I'm just doing out the Dominicans. Definitely get cocaine Virginia. 1:35:57.040 --> 1:36:01.519 It's definitely cocaine. I just know I remember did. But 1:36:01.920 --> 1:36:04.320 if you want you to do that, because I heard 1:36:04.320 --> 1:36:06.200 you drink, you drink deadly or you drink the black 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:12.360 man we drinking? You got someone drinking? Man, you got 1:36:12.400 --> 1:36:14.840 someone drinking from you. No, I know I have nobody 1:36:14.920 --> 1:36:18.080 drinking from me because one more day after Dan, I'm trying, 1:36:18.120 --> 1:36:20.280 you know what I'm trying. I'm only make them one day. 1:36:20.800 --> 1:36:29.719 The one day. But you drink me. Okay, you personal sunny, 1:36:29.720 --> 1:36:32.000 come in. I don't like being too sober and ship. 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:34.000 It's like you don't like to put on the headband 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:38.559 for this. Okay, this one off top, can you get him? 1:36:38.960 --> 1:36:42.800 I'm a cup this one off top, get give sunny. Um. Now, 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:48.280 I'm gonna tell you off top, I'm picking somebody every time, 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:50.200 so it don't matter. So we're not so we're not 1:36:50.320 --> 1:36:53.920 drinking what you're saying. I'm thinking somebody every time kills. 1:36:53.960 --> 1:36:56.800 It was day they didn't they picked somebody ever, but 1:36:57.240 --> 1:37:03.320 it was crazy but it wasn't. And I'll tell you, 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:05.280 I'll tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:08.320 I'm gonna tell you one. I don't know if I'm 1:37:08.479 --> 1:37:13.160 I'm gonna tell you. One time you called me he 1:37:13.240 --> 1:37:18.519 was disappointed and you no, no, for real, I'm gonna 1:37:18.520 --> 1:37:21.280 tell you. In fact, it was a six o'clock in 1:37:21.320 --> 1:37:25.760 the morning call. I remember where I was at, and 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:27.920 you you taught me something. You talked, you didn't you 1:37:27.960 --> 1:37:29.360 didn't know this. I don't know if you know this, 1:37:29.920 --> 1:37:32.519 but you taught me something. This is when we first 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:37.680 came up with I don't want right no no no 1:37:37.800 --> 1:37:39.320 no no no no no, no, no no no. I 1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:41.320 didn't want you to the quick time with slid. I 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:43.920 had wished you didn't air you know when you had 1:37:43.960 --> 1:37:46.840 to go back and forth. So I remember you called it. 1:37:46.960 --> 1:37:49.639 You said, I'm in the middle of making this album. 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:51.720 And we almost damn there in the middle of the 1:37:51.800 --> 1:37:54.320 wall with this guy. And he had to be literally 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:56.439 correct because I believe the ass of quick time and 1:37:56.479 --> 1:37:59.880 slide was pushed or drake and for real said he 1:38:00.080 --> 1:38:02.200 drank for he drank for it. And it was like 1:38:02.520 --> 1:38:05.200 he's being politically correct. And it was the first time 1:38:05.240 --> 1:38:08.479 I ever like like you, even like not mad. But 1:38:08.640 --> 1:38:11.600 he was disappointed, like wait in a minute, hopeful this 1:38:11.760 --> 1:38:15.800 motherfucker making my help. He couldn't pick me. I never 1:38:15.920 --> 1:38:28.160 see me most Yeah, is that because because I there's 1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:31.599 a cold of the streets right where you're my man. 1:38:32.680 --> 1:38:37.400 I'm with you right or wrong, But I also tell 1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:41.599 you when you're wrong. Oh yeah, I do that. Why 1:38:41.680 --> 1:38:43.800 did you feel like not betrayed? I don't want that. 1:38:43.960 --> 1:38:48.320 That's a wrong answer. Why didn't you think for all answered? 1:38:48.760 --> 1:38:57.280 He didn't answer that question correct because there is no 1:38:58.000 --> 1:39:03.559 wrong when they comes to me and p R, it's 1:39:03.640 --> 1:39:08.760 just you're right. I don't care, and that's just what 1:39:08.920 --> 1:39:12.439 it is like, That's just what it is like, even 1:39:12.520 --> 1:39:16.479 when you're wrong. He could be the wrongest person in 1:39:16.600 --> 1:39:23.599 this room right now. He's right there and you're wrong. 1:39:26.280 --> 1:39:31.200 But that's how I go. Yeah, like that's just what 1:39:31.360 --> 1:39:35.840 it is. But I will say this though, like you, 1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:38.200 he's sitting in front of you, you know what I'm saying, 1:39:38.240 --> 1:39:41.599 and like and he got he you know, he's sitting 1:39:41.600 --> 1:39:45.880 in front of you, and you're the same, you know 1:39:45.880 --> 1:39:49.120 what I'm saying. Like I'm thinking, I expect for real 1:39:49.200 --> 1:39:52.400 to be politically correct. Until you gave me that point 1:39:52.439 --> 1:39:53.800 of view. Was like, yo, I'm in the middle of 1:39:53.920 --> 1:39:58.000 making the album. Now he's producing it. I don't need 1:39:58.280 --> 1:40:02.640 that type of I wanted him to say, you know me, like, 1:40:02.760 --> 1:40:06.160 you know what I'm saying, And I didn't look at 1:40:06.240 --> 1:40:11.160 I didn't look at every single you know, you know 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:14.160 on the chess board with the pond moves a little 1:40:14.160 --> 1:40:17.400 bit and no one really just picks it up that 1:40:17.520 --> 1:40:19.840 that that little move at the pond makes matters to 1:40:20.320 --> 1:40:32.400 later on. Every move matters, yes, speaking every move, that's 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:40.519 what people do know. Every move matters, Every move matters. Yeah, 1:40:40.840 --> 1:40:47.160 every move matters, Every move matters. Yes, right, okay, yeah, 1:40:47.640 --> 1:40:50.559 we're getting into quick time slie. And by the way, 1:40:50.800 --> 1:40:53.519 so you know your friend Mr Lee right this to 1:40:53.800 --> 1:40:57.640 to to crash people up, so he definitely probably did 1:40:57.720 --> 1:41:02.080 this for you. Alright, cool, you ready that this is 1:41:02.160 --> 1:41:10.800 either artist whichever way you want, the puff man should child. 1:41:11.680 --> 1:41:14.920 That's right, he's making an album and ship. Yeah yeah, 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:16.639 he didn't even let me hear it because he said 1:41:16.680 --> 1:41:25.120 to blow it up. Um um, Kanye or for real, 1:41:29.240 --> 1:41:42.800 for real, I'm stuck, okay, Jada Kiss or fabulous Jada 1:41:45.160 --> 1:41:59.639 Swiss Beasts or Timberland Swiss. I'm not gonna ask why. 1:42:00.479 --> 1:42:03.839 Oh I mean you know, I'm just you know, Swiss 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:07.439 made money cash holes. I'm done money cash, hold money, 1:42:07.520 --> 1:42:22.080 cash premre p rock shit your shot? No, um, Primo 1:42:22.200 --> 1:42:30.479 made dwait Premo. Okay, ain't you taking a shot to 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:42.280 change a big sean to change that? The best verse 1:42:42.320 --> 1:42:48.200 on Mercy? Okay, that's how's verds go? How's good pirds go? 1:42:49.160 --> 1:42:52.920 How's no already? Remember? Come on, come on to change 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:59.720 the best verse on Mercy? Remember a little bit? All right? 1:43:00.160 --> 1:43:09.559 K arrests or rock him fuck man? Shot. No, I'm 1:43:09.560 --> 1:43:13.200 not taking a shot. I'm a pick I'm a peak one. 1:43:13.280 --> 1:43:16.400 But but you have to take a shot out of 1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:22.639 that taking a shot. Who do you think both both? 1:43:25.280 --> 1:43:34.639 I would man, that's that's tough. Um. Both were game 1:43:34.720 --> 1:43:44.040 changers at that time. Yeah, so both I don't know, man, 1:43:44.080 --> 1:43:50.200 because I still see I like, right this very second, no, no, 1:43:50.439 --> 1:43:55.080 because right this very second, I feel like I feel 1:43:55.120 --> 1:43:58.640 like CA arrests still could sit in front of me 1:43:58.840 --> 1:44:02.719 and rhyme is old me and everybody at this table 1:44:03.479 --> 1:44:12.880 right now, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, but 1:44:13.240 --> 1:44:16.639 rock Him, rock Him definitely had more of an impact 1:44:16.720 --> 1:44:19.840 on me, just culturally, Like I feel like, you know, 1:44:20.439 --> 1:44:22.920 I didn't ever noticed rock Him. Don't even curse, right, 1:44:23.439 --> 1:44:26.920 that's crazy, just crazy. I don't I muna say both 1:44:27.000 --> 1:44:33.519 forget it, okay, okay, but I ain't scared to say 1:44:33.560 --> 1:44:41.599 either one okay, yeah, O d B or bisin Markey, 1:44:42.200 --> 1:44:47.040 bisin Mokey pretty pretty much they was in the same 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:49.320 category too, right, Like, if it wasn't like a B, 1:44:49.840 --> 1:44:54.200 probably wouldn't be an OLDB. Like comedy I love yeah, Yeah, 1:44:54.479 --> 1:44:58.320 I definitely love it on Have you been approached to 1:44:58.360 --> 1:45:04.400 do versus O? No? I don't think so, right, you 1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:13.080 know some of you interested in not really now, not 1:45:13.280 --> 1:45:20.840 right now. I'm still like I'm still competing right now 1:45:21.600 --> 1:45:25.280 in the right right now, and I'm still like trying 1:45:25.320 --> 1:45:29.439 to like I don't even want to go. I'm working 1:45:29.439 --> 1:45:34.080 on the next album now, like right this second, at 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:36.720 the third and fourth for whatever days I'm supposed to 1:45:36.760 --> 1:45:43.200 be in the studio. I actually canceled studio today. So nah, 1:45:43.800 --> 1:45:48.639 I'm like trying to We're gonna see, we're gonna see 1:45:48.640 --> 1:45:54.120 how far this really really go. And I ain't trying 1:45:54.160 --> 1:46:00.519 to reminisce about nothing. That's why. Okay, so you ain't. Yeah, 1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:05.000 you're saying basically you're not you're not interested in versus 1:46:05.080 --> 1:46:08.479 right now. No, No, even if the bag is hefty, 1:46:09.240 --> 1:46:15.400 I mean the bag stupid who but but like, no, 1:46:15.640 --> 1:46:18.160 versus is something I like. It's something I like and 1:46:18.240 --> 1:46:20.280 something I like to watching, something that I'm into. So 1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:23.000 bag wise, I wasn't even thinking. I'm like, I'm thinking, 1:46:23.000 --> 1:46:25.920 you just asked me on something like you know, you 1:46:26.000 --> 1:46:28.080 know it kind of it's kind of like, um, I 1:46:28.120 --> 1:46:31.599 don't know, you know obviously you know. But DJ Cassidy 1:46:32.080 --> 1:46:34.160 he has this thing called Past Past the Mike what 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:37.200 I lovely she's been asking you to ask me to 1:46:37.280 --> 1:46:41.120 do it, but but he names it nineties rappers, and 1:46:41.200 --> 1:46:43.439 it's like, I don't want to be there, bro, I'm 1:46:43.479 --> 1:46:47.439 a two hip hop media motherfucking mogul. I don't want 1:46:47.479 --> 1:46:51.160 to be label the fucking nineties rapper. I mean, no, 1:46:51.479 --> 1:46:58.160 it's just it. You ain't doing that. You just yeah, 1:46:58.160 --> 1:47:00.680 I like that. I don't want to remember. I don't 1:47:00.880 --> 1:47:04.439 remember that. Basically what what me and you were saying 1:47:04.720 --> 1:47:07.719 the same dialect in a different way and a different vernacular. 1:47:08.080 --> 1:47:11.639 But because you don't like, you don't want, you still 1:47:11.680 --> 1:47:15.640 perform grinding? I do. I will still perform grinding. I 1:47:15.680 --> 1:47:19.479 don't perform much else though. Okay, you know I um, 1:47:20.560 --> 1:47:23.560 I still performed grinding, right because I went to a 1:47:23.640 --> 1:47:26.599 camera show and he didn't perform horsting carriage. I was mad. 1:47:28.000 --> 1:47:30.280 I was upset. I wanted horse in carriage and three 1:47:30.400 --> 1:47:34.840 five seven, Oh yeah, yeah you would, Yeah you would, 1:47:35.200 --> 1:47:37.960 I would. I wanted. I wanted that. I never told 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:44.400 him that probably um okay, boom you ready. Boys in 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:53.920 the hood of mister society, Um, boys in the hood? Okay, 1:47:55.600 --> 1:48:01.280 boys in the hood. That's um though, that's right. As 1:48:01.320 --> 1:48:09.960 a society is Lorenz Tate and boys first asat Rocky 1:48:10.080 --> 1:48:15.439 or Travis Scott asad Rocky that very fast, sir, I 1:48:15.520 --> 1:48:19.040 mean black them both, but Rocky because a lot of 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:22.080 people say that Rocky is like the originator. Oh I 1:48:22.120 --> 1:48:24.320 don't even compare to to I just you know, Rocky's 1:48:24.400 --> 1:48:29.600 taste level is just a one like super high. I 1:48:29.720 --> 1:48:33.040 think Travis makes dope records. I think there's something, um 1:48:33.880 --> 1:48:43.519 it's really classic about Rocky that I yes, we Rocky too. Yeah, hey, 1:48:43.560 --> 1:48:45.080 you got the next one? No, I don't have pulled 1:48:45.120 --> 1:48:50.680 up when you up? Did you tell me it's I 1:48:50.840 --> 1:48:52.920 got to type in my code because because people be 1:48:53.000 --> 1:48:54.960 telling me my cod be switching by every week, they 1:48:55.080 --> 1:49:01.280 like your cold? This is once before? How the fun 1:49:01.360 --> 1:49:02.840 do they see this ship on the end of that? 1:49:03.280 --> 1:49:06.719 So yeah, so you know, stop doing that. Hey, I've learned, 1:49:07.600 --> 1:49:14.400 uh saw how the Prince or Rome fest mm hmm. 1:49:25.479 --> 1:49:28.080 They've both been a part of history, and let'na say both. Okay, 1:49:29.040 --> 1:49:32.160 we respect that. We gotta take the shot. Buddy take 1:49:32.200 --> 1:49:35.720 the shot. I'm follow sleep him, Brophtory. They both they've 1:49:35.760 --> 1:49:39.680 both been done some very very incredible things and been 1:49:39.680 --> 1:49:43.760 a part of a lot of like legacy ship Like 1:49:44.160 --> 1:49:48.559 I can't even front on them either one. Okay, ready, yep, 1:49:48.840 --> 1:49:55.000 Big or Big Part Big Pun? The reason why are 1:49:55.040 --> 1:49:59.360 you Big Pun? Big Pun made twins? It's crazy? Ain't 1:49:59.400 --> 1:50:02.640 nobody doing in the middle A little first to the 1:50:02.680 --> 1:50:04.960 specific track that he's thinking in his mind at that moment. 1:50:05.760 --> 1:50:13.040 I love the fan version of I can just see. 1:50:13.360 --> 1:50:15.679 It's just like a totally different thing to you. Okay, 1:50:17.320 --> 1:50:22.479 Pablo escotball or l Chopol. Mr Lee wants to know. 1:50:23.360 --> 1:50:35.519 Definitely Mr. Least he would put Mr leave. But Pablo Escobar, 1:50:38.160 --> 1:50:45.360 Pablo Esco, he was first. Nah, it's not because he 1:50:45.479 --> 1:50:51.960 was first, but um does zoo? I mean Chopper might 1:50:52.000 --> 1:50:53.720 have gone further, you know, you know what because I 1:50:53.800 --> 1:50:58.720 get you know what it is. I get um, I get. 1:50:59.120 --> 1:51:02.519 I get family vibes out of Pablo, like I got 1:51:02.640 --> 1:51:05.080 to see you know, when you hear about it, when 1:51:05.120 --> 1:51:07.800 you when they talk about them, you see like oh man, 1:51:07.880 --> 1:51:10.200 he loved his kids and things like that. You know 1:51:10.200 --> 1:51:11.680 what I'm saying, You don't. You don't. I don't know 1:51:12.280 --> 1:51:17.759 that type of ventel with Chap. Yeah, I don't know tasketball, horses, 1:51:17.800 --> 1:51:23.000 cocaine and everything like information, Which is what I'm saying 1:51:23.040 --> 1:51:27.120 is it's a real thing. Like I feel like people 1:51:27.160 --> 1:51:29.840 to hear about the you know, then they'll think, you know, 1:51:29.960 --> 1:51:32.759 just like some type of tyrant. But it was dope 1:51:32.800 --> 1:51:35.880 to to get some of that insight that like he was, 1:51:36.360 --> 1:51:39.439 he was kind of like a family man, and and 1:51:39.560 --> 1:51:42.519 that and that, uh, that picture the icon it's an 1:51:42.640 --> 1:51:45.240 iconic picture him and his child in front of the 1:51:45.280 --> 1:51:52.320 White House tourists. Bro, how can you know who doesn't 1:51:52.320 --> 1:51:53.960 have that? I got that picture with my pops too. 1:51:54.720 --> 1:52:09.360 The same exact one was like, Okay, Missy or eve Missy, Missy? 1:52:09.439 --> 1:52:14.479 What's the only? Mr Mean? Stop Missy over everybody? How 1:52:14.479 --> 1:52:18.000 about that? You think Missy could be a bust of 1:52:18.080 --> 1:52:25.800 rhymes and Missy Missy untouchable, bust the rhymes though verse, 1:52:25.920 --> 1:52:28.639 I'm going I'm going with Missy. I'm Missy from Virginia. 1:52:29.280 --> 1:52:33.160 Is your only? Mr? Mean? I'm going with Missy. I'm 1:52:33.240 --> 1:52:40.639 the mighty, influencing, incredible, go god level Missy. She's gonna 1:52:40.680 --> 1:52:43.200 come up with rain drop. Listen, let's play video for video. 1:52:43.400 --> 1:52:49.920 What's up? What's up? Up? What I got back? Listen? 1:52:53.160 --> 1:52:55.000 I mean, I'm standing on it. I'm gonna stay I'm 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:59.759 gonna staying on Missy wind losing drawers whatever, but incredible 1:52:59.800 --> 1:53:02.320 world since they and they gotta do by visual too, 1:53:02.400 --> 1:53:08.120 because they have you can't just do you know? Yeah, Yeah, 1:53:09.280 --> 1:53:14.680 I love that. I love that. Mrs motherfucker yeah, we 1:53:14.760 --> 1:53:23.000 need you. They got Diddy or Stephen Victor, but they 1:53:23.040 --> 1:53:24.840 don't know you like I know you. So I'm taking 1:53:24.880 --> 1:53:30.360 Diddy out of there, and I'm putting Bob Walker or 1:53:30.439 --> 1:53:49.800 Stephen Victor. Man. Man, No, I ain't drinking. I'm not, man, 1:53:50.160 --> 1:53:55.120 I'm not you know, um Man, you know I love 1:53:55.200 --> 1:53:57.679 them both. We're going on vacation, all of us together, 1:53:57.880 --> 1:54:00.720 just recently. I mean just you know, coming up soon. 1:54:01.880 --> 1:54:08.120 But man, Stephen Victor, man, dog, we're going. We're going. 1:54:08.200 --> 1:54:12.720 We'll lose a draw. We're gonna listen down together the 1:54:12.840 --> 1:54:17.280 worst times to the best times. That's what it is, y'all. 1:54:17.320 --> 1:54:20.240 Billboard Magazine and gloves on for sure. And I mean 1:54:20.320 --> 1:54:22.800 you know and and and and Rob. Rob didn't manage 1:54:22.800 --> 1:54:27.599 me at one time, but you know, uh Pharrell at 1:54:27.800 --> 1:54:33.000 Farrell and Chad that was there. That was there, Stephen Victor, 1:54:33.400 --> 1:54:36.360 Rob and he managed all of us, you know what 1:54:36.400 --> 1:54:39.680 I'm saying. And it was and he was the one 1:54:39.760 --> 1:54:43.480 to them. Stephen is the one to me. So I'm 1:54:43.560 --> 1:54:52.360 going Stephen, okay, but you know, you know right, let's go, yeah, 1:54:52.440 --> 1:54:58.400 drink to that drink as Stephen Victor, that's was here, 1:54:58.640 --> 1:55:02.640 he was here with Sean Yep, Yeah, definitely. I want 1:55:02.680 --> 1:55:04.440 to go to believes for no reason, I swear to God, 1:55:04.480 --> 1:55:07.360 I'm gonna, yeah, I was gonna put a flight to beliefs. 1:55:08.360 --> 1:55:10.720 I don't know this is a sub but for no reason. 1:55:11.160 --> 1:55:13.760 But I looked at my fucking Instagram and it's like 1:55:13.880 --> 1:55:15.760 beliefs pot. I was like, I'm gonna just go. I'm 1:55:15.760 --> 1:55:18.040 gonna figure out the sign is there later, like you 1:55:18.040 --> 1:55:20.520 know what I'm saying. I was just gonn. I don't know. 1:55:20.720 --> 1:55:22.560 I just felt like just going, like I said, And 1:55:22.640 --> 1:55:25.040 then my friend hit me season Antigua. I was like, 1:55:25.160 --> 1:55:27.120 you know what, one of these things, I'm gonna go 1:55:27.160 --> 1:55:29.400 for one day and just just go, just like fly 1:55:29.600 --> 1:55:32.240 in six am and then fly back out. Remember, do 1:55:32.320 --> 1:55:36.800 some dumb ship like that. I'll tell you, Uh, Jake 1:55:36.840 --> 1:55:43.040 Cole or Kendrick Um j Cole or Kendrick. I'm going 1:55:43.160 --> 1:55:51.240 with Kendrake. I've been going with Kendrake. Wow, okay, nineties 1:55:51.360 --> 1:55:59.360 verse two thousand's nineties verse two thousands. Just give me 1:55:59.440 --> 1:56:04.280 two thousands, take a two thousands, Just tell him no, no, no, 1:56:04.560 --> 1:56:08.560 what it is two thousand. Yeah, you're saying all the 1:56:08.680 --> 1:56:14.400 nineties versus a Musically John, like the nineties you got 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:23.040 you got criss Cross jump right now. We oh, we 1:56:23.120 --> 1:56:27.000 got WoT we got uh, we got great kin, we 1:56:27.080 --> 1:56:32.320 got mob d fuck. Oh yeah, you know it's nineties. 1:56:32.360 --> 1:56:34.760 But clips. We have clips in the two thousands. We 1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:37.240 got clips in two thousands, and we got trapper Divegez 1:56:37.320 --> 1:56:39.520 in the two thousand. You know, that's the fucking grail 1:56:40.120 --> 1:56:43.440 some of the great But you got reasonable doubt nineties six, 1:56:43.480 --> 1:56:48.920 I'm done. It's ninety about eighties verse nineties based on 1:56:49.000 --> 1:56:55.760 what you've been saying to mom, d ruined my life? Prodigy? 1:56:55.840 --> 1:57:09.760 Did get Richard died trying? Or Port of Miami? Get 1:57:09.840 --> 1:57:12.920 Richard died trying? Or Port of Miami both the first 1:57:13.320 --> 1:57:21.000 both Rick Cross and get rich trying. Yeah, Biggie or 1:57:21.120 --> 1:57:34.400 jay Z, take a shot something the fucking coming Nah, 1:57:34.880 --> 1:57:42.080 Like you can't answer it, man, you can't answer it. 1:57:42.480 --> 1:57:44.520 Take a shot. Okay, No, But I don't like that. 1:57:44.680 --> 1:57:47.360 I really do. I really do. You might think I'm 1:57:47.400 --> 1:57:58.240 a whole or something person. I actually it's just it's 1:57:58.280 --> 1:58:00.560 just like it's just like the bar said on your 1:58:00.880 --> 1:58:04.080 he said, if Big was alive in this position, if 1:58:05.000 --> 1:58:15.280 would have survived, would have got the right, col okay, 1:58:18.120 --> 1:58:20.200 this one, I don't know where you can go with this? 1:58:20.640 --> 1:58:22.640 Was that because I don't know if we ever ever. 1:58:22.880 --> 1:58:24.040 I know you met one of them, I don't know 1:58:24.040 --> 1:58:29.680 if you met the other one. Tupaca d MX, Tupaca, 1:58:29.800 --> 1:58:37.520 DM Max. I'm gonna go with d M Max bro right, Um, 1:58:40.280 --> 1:58:43.000 you know I ain't. I didn't see Poc. Yeah, I 1:58:43.040 --> 1:58:44.720 didn't get the I didn't you know what I'm saying. 1:58:44.720 --> 1:58:47.640 I didn't see him. I mean his of course music impactful, 1:58:48.000 --> 1:58:49.600 so on and so forth. But I went to the 1:58:49.640 --> 1:58:54.440 concert where they cried like this. Yeah. I went to 1:58:54.600 --> 1:58:58.920 Rough Riday and uh cash money, cash money and Rough Riday. 1:58:59.040 --> 1:59:11.800 Yeah yeah yeah, And um, you know, you know that's 1:59:11.800 --> 1:59:14.000 something that this funked up with me because of music. 1:59:14.280 --> 1:59:17.120 I don't. I don't remember dating ship good like nothing, 1:59:17.160 --> 1:59:20.280 I remember nothing. I can't. I can't my time, my 1:59:20.400 --> 1:59:34.440 time friends that it's got vitamins. But um, but also 1:59:35.240 --> 1:59:42.600 also I muna say that, um, you know, exchanged music 1:59:42.720 --> 1:59:48.000 and what was music like crazily to me? Like like 1:59:48.200 --> 1:59:50.640 I mean, you know, I love big everything going on, 1:59:50.840 --> 1:59:52.720 bad boy boom boom and then he come with the 1:59:52.880 --> 1:59:56.800 dog calling no shirt blacking, you know, what I'm saying, 1:59:56.840 --> 2:00:00.720 it was like then he came and he rob Um, 2:00:01.280 --> 2:00:03.800 he did two songs, did two albums, and nine months 2:00:05.200 --> 2:00:12.840 um he started Hell's Hellt's and then Flesh in My Flesh. 2:00:12.920 --> 2:00:18.120 Yeah I'm slipping right yeah yeah, like bro yeah just 2:00:18.200 --> 2:00:21.320 for me just in the impact was something visible and 2:00:21.400 --> 2:00:24.520 had a record a ciscar at the same time. No, 2:00:24.800 --> 2:00:30.840 and and what's that the Alia joint? Yeah, like it's 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:38.400 too much no hype man? Yeah yeah, performer. Now this 2:00:38.560 --> 2:00:40.400 next one, I don't know where you're gonna go because 2:00:40.400 --> 2:00:43.800 I think this is definitely a doublet for you, major 2:00:43.920 --> 2:00:50.520 or independent because when you owning your masters right now, 2:00:50.640 --> 2:00:53.760 you're a major independent right No, yeah, but but um, 2:00:56.760 --> 2:00:58.480 I don't have a problem with I don't have a 2:00:58.560 --> 2:01:02.520 problem with the label a label as a partner. I 2:01:02.640 --> 2:01:05.480 don't get that check. Yeah, like I'm not. I'm not. 2:01:05.640 --> 2:01:09.400 And especially if you don't got the arms too to 2:01:09.840 --> 2:01:13.080 facilitate everything you need to be as an independent, you know. 2:01:13.960 --> 2:01:16.880 And I'm speaking. I'm speaking on this because I'm from 2:01:16.920 --> 2:01:22.880 a place where independence never happened, you know what I'm saying. 2:01:22.960 --> 2:01:26.800 Like I'm from Virginia. We never had the infrastructure to 2:01:26.880 --> 2:01:31.560 make some independent common Wealth. Right, but we never just 2:01:31.640 --> 2:01:36.400 had the infrastructure to like but you've never experienced independent 2:01:36.520 --> 2:01:40.360 stuff really Yeah? Well well no, I mean you know 2:01:40.400 --> 2:01:42.360 what I'm saying. I look, Tony Draper was my manager. 2:01:44.120 --> 2:01:49.080 You know. Yeah, that's independent. But some of the some 2:01:49.160 --> 2:01:52.200 of the perks of amajors, like you said, you were 2:01:52.280 --> 2:01:54.000 out there, got the hard work out a jay Z 2:01:54.200 --> 2:01:57.280 feature probably probably wouldn't be able to get the video, 2:01:57.320 --> 2:01:59.680 but you got this and the perks will being an 2:01:59.680 --> 2:02:04.000 amazing people have it played or fifty seven markets per 2:02:04.240 --> 2:02:07.120 hour just you gotta be an estimated at least fifty 2:02:07.160 --> 2:02:09.880 seven million people have heard neck and Rest because of 2:02:10.000 --> 2:02:13.600 the purse of a major. Yeah, it's given take Remember 2:02:13.680 --> 2:02:17.360 it's o versus versus the machine, and it's both. There's 2:02:17.360 --> 2:02:19.960 no wronger, right, yeah, there's no there's no wronger. Right. 2:02:20.040 --> 2:02:27.800 And I'm gonna tell you this. Um, I don't know, man, Yeah, 2:02:27.840 --> 2:02:30.640 I don't know. I don't know. I mean, so we're 2:02:30.680 --> 2:02:37.880 taking a shot. I don't take a shot, Okay, now 2:02:37.960 --> 2:02:39.520 this is I'm not mad at either one though. To 2:02:39.560 --> 2:02:40.880 be honest with you, if you if you got the 2:02:41.000 --> 2:02:44.600 arms to be independent, then it's go. You should. But 2:02:44.720 --> 2:02:49.200 if you don't. It's a successful on a major for 2:02:49.440 --> 2:03:01.760 for sure. For sure, kick cut a comment, kick cutting 2:03:03.120 --> 2:03:22.800 Conway or Bitty the Butcher. Shit, m taking a shot? 2:03:22.840 --> 2:03:38.560 All right? Cool, I'm not taking them shots. Damn. I'm 2:03:38.600 --> 2:03:43.840 gonna go with Conway. I'm gonna go with Conway. Right. 2:03:44.600 --> 2:03:46.400 I don't know why they keep putting these two together, 2:03:46.520 --> 2:03:48.480 but they did it with their albums, but now we're 2:03:48.480 --> 2:03:51.880 gonna do it for them individually. Rick Ross a fat 2:03:51.960 --> 2:04:03.080 Joe Um Rick Ross yeh, Teddy Riley, go ahead, baby face, 2:04:03.440 --> 2:04:13.600 Teddy Riley? Care what happened? A funk? What happened? It's 2:04:13.720 --> 2:04:27.040 t go ahead. He's definitely gonna his last name don 2:04:27.160 --> 2:04:33.600 to Oliver, don Toliver Oliver or little Boosie Burke. God 2:04:36.120 --> 2:04:46.880 nah nah um yeah, I'm gonna take a shot. Okay, 2:04:47.160 --> 2:04:50.680 now we're gonna take a shot, all right. Uh. New 2:04:50.800 --> 2:04:57.960 Jack City, original Gangster New Jack City. A lot of 2:04:57.960 --> 2:05:03.520 people have been saying New Jack City, okay, d C 2:05:04.400 --> 2:05:07.920 or l A d C or l A d C 2:05:09.040 --> 2:05:15.840 d C or Miami d C d C or Denver 2:05:19.520 --> 2:05:28.800 d C. No, No, no, listen, you know you know 2:05:28.920 --> 2:05:31.080 actually where I'm from. I'm three hours away from these 2:05:31.320 --> 2:05:33.480 well now I got a house up there now, and like, 2:05:35.800 --> 2:05:41.200 but I just, man, I'm just very mid Atlantic, East 2:05:41.320 --> 2:05:48.160 Coast level. That's where I'm the most comfortable with everything. Like, 2:05:48.760 --> 2:05:52.120 you know, I haven't I haven't taken a flight since 2:05:52.160 --> 2:05:55.840 I was living in Maryland in that area. I haven't 2:05:55.920 --> 2:05:59.280 taken a flight to New York. I never took a flight. 2:05:59.440 --> 2:06:02.200 And I would all ways get on the train and 2:06:02.400 --> 2:06:05.520 just uh you know, take the train from DC to 2:06:05.600 --> 2:06:09.240 New York just to like see the different like just 2:06:09.360 --> 2:06:11.720 the different areas I was going through, and and and 2:06:11.840 --> 2:06:14.680 so on and so forth. And it's like I really 2:06:14.800 --> 2:06:18.680 got to identify who I'm talking to, that East Coast 2:06:18.800 --> 2:06:22.200 level of sophistication. You know what I'm saying that I 2:06:22.400 --> 2:06:25.760 know exactly where my raps is going at. Anybody else 2:06:25.920 --> 2:06:28.760 is cool, but who gravitates to it? But I know 2:06:28.920 --> 2:06:37.080 exactly that d C, Baltimore, uh, Philly, Maryland, you know it? Atlantic? Yeah? Yeah, 2:06:38.200 --> 2:06:41.520 oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean state too, right, No 2:06:42.920 --> 2:06:46.720 state is when you get there US. It's not DMV, 2:06:46.920 --> 2:06:49.880 no DMV. But but d m V. D m V 2:06:50.120 --> 2:06:54.400 has never uh d m V has never included uh 2:06:54.920 --> 2:06:58.080 where I'm from. DNA Beach seven five seven area code 2:06:58.600 --> 2:07:02.440 that Hampton and never we were our own things. We are, 2:07:02.720 --> 2:07:05.080 We've been our own thing. Richmond be the own thing. 2:07:05.160 --> 2:07:09.760 And then d m V was DC Maryland and Northern Virginia. Okay, 2:07:10.320 --> 2:07:13.720 so um, let's be clear. Virginia is the East Coast. Yes, 2:07:14.400 --> 2:07:18.440 I mean it was in the South. This is a 2:07:18.480 --> 2:07:21.440 big debate. Well, no, no, it is. Technically it is. 2:07:21.880 --> 2:07:25.600 It was the capital of the Confederacy. No for but no, 2:07:25.760 --> 2:07:30.400 I don't think that's what he meant that technically the South. 2:07:31.280 --> 2:07:34.480 But in the music sense, in a music sense, the 2:07:34.680 --> 2:07:40.560 dirty South never adopted Virginia, and d C no, no, 2:07:40.640 --> 2:07:46.640 no no adopted Virginia. Well, New York, the New York 2:07:46.760 --> 2:07:50.080 adopted Virginia during the late eighties. You don't think Teddy 2:07:50.120 --> 2:07:53.600 really turned into Virginia. I feel like he into that's 2:07:53.640 --> 2:07:57.640 what we're saying. I don't think he zoom zoom zoom 2:07:57.720 --> 2:08:06.440 in the room. Poom yeah jove into pop phone. I 2:08:06.600 --> 2:08:09.920 do remember that video, don't saying to get I got 2:08:10.000 --> 2:08:14.400 almost guaranteed. I jerked video. That's two much of Amazon. 2:08:14.680 --> 2:08:23.080 You needn't drink that Wow Soper nor out no one Sofa. 2:08:23.360 --> 2:08:28.280 That's all the year before. What do you mean that's 2:08:28.280 --> 2:08:32.120 a clessant record. That's a clus That's what mean. It's 2:08:32.120 --> 2:08:33.920 like Dwick almost in a sense, you know, like a 2:08:33.960 --> 2:08:37.480 summer record that's never forever, YoY came before do it. No, 2:08:37.640 --> 2:08:41.080 I'm just saying it's a classic summer record. Yes, it 2:08:41.200 --> 2:08:42.640 made me want to like I always wanted to have 2:08:42.760 --> 2:08:47.600 a video like that. I never got one girl. He 2:08:47.760 --> 2:08:56.080 got chill him full of dudes, I drink off. He's 2:08:56.240 --> 2:09:04.240 crazy and he's sober. The motherfucker. I don't want you. 2:09:06.360 --> 2:09:18.440 That was podcast radio um podcast almatic or ready to 2:09:18.520 --> 2:09:34.440 Die Illmatic or ready to die Almatic, styles Pe or 2:09:34.600 --> 2:09:42.480 cameraon styles P camera styles Pe. Oh you say you 2:09:42.560 --> 2:09:50.640 was answering styles Pe might be in my top five 2:09:51.080 --> 2:09:58.560 to three dogs just of like consistency, hard lyricism. Um 2:09:59.200 --> 2:10:05.240 even gets a little conscious, Yeah, but scary conscious, you know, 2:10:06.120 --> 2:10:10.000 I don't know, scolding conscious, Like he's in my top 2:10:10.240 --> 2:10:13.440 he's like he's been and been there for a long 2:10:14.320 --> 2:10:25.320 long time. Ray Kwan or ghost face Ray Kwan of 2:10:25.360 --> 2:10:30.320 course his hats because he is the Purple tape. Purple 2:10:30.400 --> 2:10:32.920 tape change niggers Like, yeah, now let me tell you something. 2:10:33.040 --> 2:10:36.160 If the Purple Tape would have said ghost face features 2:10:37.960 --> 2:10:41.320 because yeah, but I said break feature and ghost face, 2:10:41.360 --> 2:10:48.680 So I gotta go with Cypress Hills or Onyx Cypress 2:10:48.720 --> 2:11:01.480 Hill used to Cypress Hills Cyper's Hill Still n WA 2:11:01.960 --> 2:11:13.120 or Wu Tank Plan Um moutane Clan deep or MP 2:11:13.680 --> 2:11:18.680 mob mob Deep over everybody, Mob Deep over clips Mob 2:11:18.760 --> 2:11:30.640 Deep mob Deep. Loyalty or respect loyalty? Why you don't 2:11:30.640 --> 2:11:35.200 guta respect me? You don't got too? It's cool, I don't. 2:11:35.240 --> 2:11:37.480 I respect you and I respect me. But if you're loyal, 2:11:37.600 --> 2:11:39.800 that means you're that close to me. That means we're 2:11:39.800 --> 2:11:42.880 in a close you know, in close dealings. And I 2:11:43.160 --> 2:11:46.680 and I put that over everything like we should be 2:11:47.240 --> 2:11:51.840 everybody should be. Um, loyalty should be on top of 2:11:51.960 --> 2:11:54.760 everybody's list. Who you who you deal with, who you 2:11:54.880 --> 2:12:06.720 rock with? Yeah, figure we always say, um, you always 2:12:06.720 --> 2:12:10.360 say that's probably the only trick question on here because 2:12:10.640 --> 2:12:14.480 UM and I get how people depreciate the two. UM, 2:12:15.040 --> 2:12:17.760 but I feel like, really, loyalty and respect, like it's 2:12:17.800 --> 2:12:19.720 just it's just like a hand and hand type of thing. 2:12:20.360 --> 2:12:24.000 But not in this generation now. But from where we 2:12:24.320 --> 2:12:25.800 come from. When I say where I come from, I 2:12:25.840 --> 2:12:28.800 don't mean my hood. I mean the generation generation, you 2:12:28.840 --> 2:12:31.839 know what I mean? Um damn that motherfucker Live Residents 2:12:32.760 --> 2:12:34.800 smacking a ship out of me. Right now. We got 2:12:34.880 --> 2:12:38.560 some bigger boys. God damn it, that's it. That's it 2:12:38.720 --> 2:12:43.560 is hitting me crazy right in the building. You get 2:12:43.680 --> 2:12:47.760 paid by the movie. But so moving forward and this 2:12:48.160 --> 2:12:51.280 generation now, I can see how they don't coexist. But um, 2:12:51.640 --> 2:12:54.320 back then, if you had loyalty, you have respect. Back then, 2:12:54.360 --> 2:12:58.000 if you have respect, you had loyalty. I mean, I 2:12:58.280 --> 2:13:00.360 think I'm looking at it just in this sense of 2:13:02.280 --> 2:13:05.800 you know how I how I view the two words, 2:13:06.000 --> 2:13:10.400 like I don't care if somebody respects me. You know 2:13:10.400 --> 2:13:11.880 what I'm saying, I don't, you don't. You don't gotta 2:13:11.920 --> 2:13:13.960 respect me. You got to know me and I respect me. 2:13:14.000 --> 2:13:19.280 It's whatever. Loyalty is something that is. You know, you 2:13:19.400 --> 2:13:22.840 get that opportunity to even experience loyalty by being close 2:13:22.920 --> 2:13:25.960 to somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like you you, 2:13:27.480 --> 2:13:29.640 if you're not close somebody, you don't even expect loyalty. 2:13:30.080 --> 2:13:32.240 So you can only look at that word in one 2:13:32.600 --> 2:13:34.600 you know, in in a in a sense of being, 2:13:35.720 --> 2:13:39.400 But would in loyalty automatically bring respect with itself, because 2:13:39.440 --> 2:13:43.720 the minute someone disengages from being loyal, they're disrespecting you 2:13:43.800 --> 2:13:47.640 at the same time. That's why. That's that's why I 2:13:47.720 --> 2:13:52.800 was like, I guess, I mean you mean true, you know, 2:13:52.960 --> 2:13:56.000 but I think, you know, I think you can separate 2:13:56.160 --> 2:14:00.560 both of them because again I can see this man 2:14:00.720 --> 2:14:03.320 right here. I don't gotta respect that man or nothing. 2:14:03.480 --> 2:14:05.720 You don't gotta respect me, you know what I'm saying. 2:14:05.840 --> 2:14:08.040 Loyalty ain't even an option. We don't even know each other, 2:14:08.880 --> 2:14:10.760 you know what I'm saying. So when you start talking 2:14:10.760 --> 2:14:15.000 about loyalty, you're really talking about you're already putting a 2:14:15.080 --> 2:14:18.120 relationship there. And when you when you mentioned loyalty, not 2:14:18.320 --> 2:14:21.760 necessarily with respect, because the enemy could respect you and 2:14:21.840 --> 2:14:24.600 that'd be loyal to you. That's why I think is 2:14:24.600 --> 2:14:27.400 where it disengages, Like like someone from a distance in 2:14:27.440 --> 2:14:29.200 the streets could be like, I'm gonna respect them and 2:14:29.200 --> 2:14:31.920 I'm gonna move accordingly to how I respect that they 2:14:32.040 --> 2:14:34.840 might move, but I'm not loyal to that person. Yeah, 2:14:35.600 --> 2:14:40.400 it's it's it's separate though. Man, life is crazy. Man 2:14:40.520 --> 2:14:43.640 life is crazy. Life is crazy. No, look at this, Yeah, 2:14:43.680 --> 2:14:45.720 that's about to say, man like not only did you 2:14:45.760 --> 2:14:49.280 think you still be here, like with the level of 2:14:49.400 --> 2:14:51.640 love that you receive, you know what I'm saying, Like 2:14:51.960 --> 2:14:54.720 you have like like I go back to the Coil 2:14:54.880 --> 2:14:59.120 Ray interview because it was just, um, is a fire 2:14:59.200 --> 2:15:03.680 cracker that that's that's the home. But what it was 2:15:03.840 --> 2:15:07.800 was to see Charlemagne like and have his like you know, 2:15:07.960 --> 2:15:11.320 he's the top of his game. He's sitting there and 2:15:11.440 --> 2:15:14.280 it's like there's people like that that won't let what 2:15:14.480 --> 2:15:17.720 you do die at all. Yeah, no, for sure, And 2:15:19.440 --> 2:15:26.680 you know it's it's Um, I think that it's good 2:15:26.760 --> 2:15:32.760 to have champions like like Charlotte Maagne out there and yeah, 2:15:33.000 --> 2:15:39.640 of course Vangela everybody. UM, but you know, you gotta 2:15:39.840 --> 2:15:42.520 you gotta make it. You gotta make it easy for 2:15:42.640 --> 2:15:45.440 them to champion you two. You gotta make that ship. 2:15:45.560 --> 2:15:49.640 You gotta be culturally relevant. You gotta be active and 2:15:50.120 --> 2:15:53.880 actively competing and you know, you know, being able to 2:15:53.960 --> 2:15:56.200 put up your album one for one with any of them. 2:15:56.360 --> 2:15:58.480 And I feel like that's something that I need to 2:15:58.560 --> 2:16:00.960 do more. Like I you know, I've been on some 2:16:02.920 --> 2:16:06.320 I've been on some you know, drop every two three 2:16:06.480 --> 2:16:08.840 years type of ship. This was even longer due to 2:16:08.880 --> 2:16:12.200 the pandemic or whatever. But um, I think I think 2:16:12.880 --> 2:16:15.640 just being more respectful to my fan And if I'm 2:16:15.680 --> 2:16:19.080 really trying to get my language out there and and 2:16:19.280 --> 2:16:21.680 show that I'm being competitive, I'm gonna have to drop 2:16:21.760 --> 2:16:26.760 more frequently too. What's ther president of death? Dam? How 2:16:26.800 --> 2:16:31.000 has it been working with Tungi Dope? Like you know 2:16:31.480 --> 2:16:35.280 young energy? Um, he knows what you're talking about. And 2:16:35.400 --> 2:16:37.720 and Tungji used to wrap. He's gonna kill me for this. 2:16:40.920 --> 2:16:43.200 I don't, I don't, but but I sucked him up. 2:16:43.240 --> 2:16:44.960 I told him right, I told him, I know you 2:16:45.040 --> 2:16:46.959 used to wrap two So because I brought him into 2:16:47.000 --> 2:16:48.680 listen to my album first, and I was like, before 2:16:48.879 --> 2:16:51.360 we even go here, I know you're rappers, so that's 2:16:51.400 --> 2:16:58.879 why you're here. Tell me he um African? Um, what's 2:16:58.879 --> 2:17:03.920 the ship? Um? No, no, no, bumba, what's that? What 2:17:04.040 --> 2:17:13.880 the are you talking? Uh? Afro beats? Yeah, but no 2:17:14.000 --> 2:17:26.520 he wraps like a rapper, like African like raps. Yeah 2:17:26.800 --> 2:17:30.800 he sure, And um that was that was they had 2:17:30.800 --> 2:17:33.520 a lot to do with. Um. I was letting I 2:17:33.600 --> 2:17:35.320 was letting him hear the album. But that was part 2:17:35.400 --> 2:17:38.160 of the rollout specifically. That's why I asked you how 2:17:38.200 --> 2:17:42.320 long you got to live with the record because we 2:17:43.200 --> 2:17:46.560 wanted I feel like, man, people don't even rate in 2:17:46.680 --> 2:17:49.800 critique records no more so we had we had the 2:17:49.879 --> 2:17:52.840 record sent out to everybody earlier and we experienced the leak. 2:17:52.920 --> 2:17:55.360 Actually in the virgion I had didn't have drug Dealers 2:17:55.400 --> 2:17:57.600 anonymous on it. The one that I bought don't have 2:17:57.720 --> 2:18:01.039 drunk anonymous on It's not on it. Yeah, yeah I didn't. 2:18:01.120 --> 2:18:02.960 But the one when you google it, it is on 2:18:03.120 --> 2:18:11.200 that bro. Stop No, you know it's crazy. No, no, 2:18:12.280 --> 2:18:15.360 go to title man on the playlist that you sent us. 2:18:16.560 --> 2:18:23.840 They got it, yes, yeah, yes, they got it actually 2:18:23.959 --> 2:18:26.920 under the album yeah, come on, no or push the 2:18:27.000 --> 2:18:30.400 Tea Blue dist track towards Arby's. You started Arby's Ship 2:18:30.440 --> 2:18:34.800 because because McDonald's jerk you back in the day. Man, 2:18:35.360 --> 2:18:40.200 that's really really good. I'm really proud of that. Armies. Yeah, 2:18:40.320 --> 2:18:44.200 I'm proud of the campaign. Right go, Steve Stout got 2:18:44.240 --> 2:18:49.480 your jerked back. They didn't get a jerk man, but 2:18:50.280 --> 2:18:52.879 not shouting Stout though, because he you know he um. 2:18:53.760 --> 2:18:56.080 He brought me and my brother in on the I'm 2:18:56.160 --> 2:19:01.680 loving the campaign. Yeah. We talked about two and from 2:19:01.760 --> 2:19:04.480 those raps came the catchphrase I'm loving it and you 2:19:04.760 --> 2:19:07.520 you did not know about residuals back there? Hell don't 2:19:07.520 --> 2:19:10.160 know that ship with the check was looking crazy that 2:19:10.400 --> 2:19:12.280 bro I wasn't thinking about it, and I'm thinking ship, 2:19:12.400 --> 2:19:14.600 Oh yeah, you know, a little two months joint about 2:19:14.600 --> 2:19:18.000 the same time it's over. That should lasted twenty years, 2:19:20.080 --> 2:19:25.560 might still be forever? Know for sure? Are we stepped 2:19:25.600 --> 2:19:28.119 you and said let's get a cracking h We'll see 2:19:28.320 --> 2:19:30.520 ary they said, let's go to the wall, let's get 2:19:31.240 --> 2:19:38.360 double like that. If any of that happened, I'm telling 2:19:38.400 --> 2:19:42.160 you what happened before. What really happened was I've been 2:19:42.200 --> 2:19:44.240 speaking and I've been telling people that that was like 2:19:44.360 --> 2:19:48.000 my um my biggest regret. You know, people ask you, like, da, 2:19:48.120 --> 2:19:51.920 what's your biggest regret musically? So that's um. So I 2:19:52.280 --> 2:19:54.840 told him about the McDonald's thing and I and then 2:19:54.920 --> 2:19:58.280 I proceeded to tell them that. But after that, though, 2:19:58.320 --> 2:20:00.360 I see, I've been in business with Arby's for minute 2:20:00.360 --> 2:20:03.720 because me and scrill X did a record together called 2:20:03.760 --> 2:20:07.520 Burial and that we got to meet at the end 2:20:07.560 --> 2:20:11.200 of the Arby's commercial with the last hard That's that 2:20:11.360 --> 2:20:17.080 our own record. So yeah, so out here doing right 2:20:17.959 --> 2:20:21.120 so so and that's why because you were speaking about earlier. 2:20:21.120 --> 2:20:22.320 He was like, man, I was doing his E d 2:20:22.520 --> 2:20:24.600 M stuff, and I was like, bro, that was the 2:20:24.720 --> 2:20:29.320 path that I got. No, he was on point, but 2:20:30.680 --> 2:20:34.000 he was on point. He was on point with that. 2:20:34.120 --> 2:20:36.400 He jump off the E d M. The E d 2:20:36.640 --> 2:20:41.680 M is very commercial friendly and once um my manager 2:20:42.560 --> 2:20:46.600 really Stephen was really like pushing that. No, just pushing, 2:20:46.760 --> 2:20:48.520 just doing a lot of E d M stuff, like yo, 2:20:48.720 --> 2:20:50.880 just do it like it's it's cool whatever, it's it's 2:20:50.920 --> 2:20:54.640 commercial leaning. And so to get me to do it, 2:20:55.120 --> 2:20:58.600 he would always ask for a super crazy amount of 2:20:58.680 --> 2:21:03.560 the song like like yo, give me whatever publishing and 2:21:04.080 --> 2:21:06.360 I ended up doing the Screll X one and it 2:21:06.480 --> 2:21:12.640 ended up getting picked up. So yeah, so I didn't 2:21:12.640 --> 2:21:17.680 say nothing. He just owns that piece of that record. 2:21:17.920 --> 2:21:21.920 Who got the Meets is on yes, exactly. So um, 2:21:23.000 --> 2:21:26.200 with that, with that being the case, um, they reached 2:21:26.200 --> 2:21:27.720 out to me. It was like, man, we we heard 2:21:27.720 --> 2:21:32.160 about what you said during the you know, doing me harmy. 2:21:33.200 --> 2:21:43.400 Yeah They're like yeah, we've been I'm always gies, but 2:21:44.760 --> 2:21:46.240 you know it was like yeo, we heard about that 2:21:46.600 --> 2:21:48.440 but we got this fish sandwich that we bring in 2:21:48.440 --> 2:21:51.320 the market. Let's, you know, let's do something they want 2:21:51.360 --> 2:21:56.960 to bang against. Yeah, Wendy's right, McDonald's Okay, Yeah, And 2:21:57.720 --> 2:21:59.680 it just made sense. It just made sense, you know, 2:22:00.080 --> 2:22:03.959 be for McDonald's, sense, beef for McDonald's and just everything 2:22:04.000 --> 2:22:06.520 I was going through, just beefwise period. They were like, 2:22:07.640 --> 2:22:10.800 that makes sense. So that's why it's like really important 2:22:10.840 --> 2:22:13.920 to get the right people at these corporations because you 2:22:14.040 --> 2:22:17.200 know what's going on. Culture. Whoever the guy is at 2:22:17.320 --> 2:22:21.800 Arby's does deserve a raise. I think he got. He 2:22:21.840 --> 2:22:24.000 could have got. Let's be clear that a lot of 2:22:24.080 --> 2:22:26.800 these executives now are of an age and a generation 2:22:26.879 --> 2:22:28.600 that grew up on hip hop that probably get it. 2:22:28.680 --> 2:22:30.680 But he could have because anybody could wrap now, he 2:22:30.680 --> 2:22:32.879 could have got a straight faced you know what I'm 2:22:32.920 --> 2:22:36.920 saying to do. Arby's got beef with y D's and 2:22:37.000 --> 2:22:39.600 they wouldn't have to say. But they got a credible lyricist, 2:22:40.000 --> 2:22:43.280 and you really got D R B Gang And I 2:22:43.320 --> 2:22:46.600 ain't got it yet. Get at least the piece. Yeah, no, 2:22:46.840 --> 2:23:01.040 for sure, get the piece. Give me give me a ticket, yeah, 2:23:01.879 --> 2:23:06.480 to come down. But so Marvey steps to you and 2:23:06.520 --> 2:23:08.440 they said listen. Yeah. It was like, yo, let's let 2:23:08.560 --> 2:23:12.080 let's do this. You seven drop by on me? Yes, 2:23:12.440 --> 2:23:21.360 for sure, everybody get everybody getting it, and man, it 2:23:22.080 --> 2:23:24.400 really it really paid off. It really paid off. I 2:23:24.480 --> 2:23:27.800 think it got um. It really tuned everybody from our 2:23:27.879 --> 2:23:31.160 culture totally into Rby's even more. I mean I don't 2:23:31.200 --> 2:23:32.920 I don't know if they really were before, but just 2:23:33.080 --> 2:23:35.840 to see the analytics and the numbers, you know that 2:23:35.920 --> 2:23:38.480 it was crazy. Something like Bloomberg talking about it and 2:23:39.959 --> 2:23:47.720 everybody because you Ronald McDonald's come back, Nah, I ain't buying. 2:23:48.879 --> 2:23:54.760 I'm not buying an it's crazy MS gag game. He's like, 2:23:54.840 --> 2:24:00.560 what's I was like, they made this? This is this 2:24:00.720 --> 2:24:06.880 is by far one of the funniest hip hop uh 2:24:07.600 --> 2:24:11.680 commercial like battle it is because like I said, they 2:24:11.680 --> 2:24:14.800 could have got astray faced. Yeah, and a guy from 2:24:14.879 --> 2:24:18.800 the hood that is you know, got superbars, you know, 2:24:18.959 --> 2:24:22.600 supertality where they got you and then and then and 2:24:22.680 --> 2:24:24.960 then it's actually make that was a tweeting back like 2:24:25.400 --> 2:24:32.080 and it's a story. The story though, Drake, the story 2:24:32.200 --> 2:24:36.240 that's sundered off the Arby's gang. Now that's just means 2:24:36.280 --> 2:24:42.560 out of question. You eat the roast beef? Yeah for sure. No, 2:24:43.240 --> 2:24:45.880 I don't really know too many people, I promise you. 2:24:46.920 --> 2:24:52.920 I'm Allby's games as pretty clean though. Man can order 2:24:53.040 --> 2:24:56.440 right now? What's the number seven? I don't do that. 2:24:56.520 --> 2:24:58.560 I do what I did? I do? I do from shading? 2:24:59.000 --> 2:25:01.480 Uh No, on one, I put the sesame seed on it, 2:25:02.160 --> 2:25:06.440 shredded lettuce, tomato, arby sauce, curly fry, sweet tea. Let's go. 2:25:10.879 --> 2:25:13.800 So just I don't eat beef. Did I got chicken? 2:25:16.879 --> 2:25:19.120 I'm getting the fish shamwich. You sold me on the 2:25:19.120 --> 2:25:21.119 fish Sam. Yes, you told me that the other niggas 2:25:21.200 --> 2:25:26.160 is not the niggas right right right? They not with you. 2:25:28.520 --> 2:25:35.840 We're gonna get some armies. We got a pop the 2:25:36.160 --> 2:25:43.400 armies wanted to dry. But did you cliche type of questions? 2:25:44.200 --> 2:25:46.080 But did you ever think that hip hop with tickets 2:25:46.480 --> 2:25:51.119 like joking around? That's why I do it. That's why 2:25:51.160 --> 2:25:57.280 I do it, like like I really, I really, um man, 2:25:57.360 --> 2:26:00.280 you know, we're from the time where like yo, my 2:26:00.480 --> 2:26:03.120 first my first Grammy nomination, I had to go like 2:26:03.280 --> 2:26:07.520 the day before when it was like tele like I'm 2:26:07.560 --> 2:26:11.039 televised and you had your own little like stupid ceremony. 2:26:11.320 --> 2:26:13.720 They were smart. Yeah, like they won't. Chris rock Shield 2:26:13.879 --> 2:26:24.080 came out that it was ahead of the time show. 2:26:29.200 --> 2:26:31.000 I told you I ain't coming. She's gonna be real 2:26:31.280 --> 2:26:37.360 bill Board Awards he hosted and executive producing. When I 2:26:37.400 --> 2:26:40.920 don't know, Coden, I'm going, I'm going here, gonna have 2:26:41.000 --> 2:26:49.320 to security on that. You're gonna nig up. Ain't smacking tripping, 2:26:49.360 --> 2:26:53.920 And I'm telling you that he want the smack. That's 2:26:53.920 --> 2:26:57.280 a fact. I'm gonna be front row because if not 2:26:57.959 --> 2:27:02.879 just a bill Board a ward, but he's he's yea 2:27:03.440 --> 2:27:16.080 yea drink anymore. He's also execut producing it, so like 2:27:16.400 --> 2:27:21.240 he's executive producer because of remember was executive produced and 2:27:21.280 --> 2:27:27.680 produced by Will Farrell. And right, excuse me, how about 2:27:29.480 --> 2:27:32.000 whatever did he do? He gonna kill, he gonna kill, 2:27:32.120 --> 2:27:35.480 he gonna dances, training and ship and the shows you 2:27:35.560 --> 2:27:40.280 gotta get to The show was done. Nobody playing with him. No, No, 2:27:40.400 --> 2:27:42.959 I'm talking, mom, he's hosting the Billboard Award. But we're 2:27:43.000 --> 2:27:44.959 talking about the producer that you were talking about, Will 2:27:45.000 --> 2:27:48.039 pat Yeah he killed the show was dope, he killed it? Yeah, yeah, 2:27:48.120 --> 2:27:50.120 he killed it. You you're interested in the Oscars and 2:27:50.120 --> 2:27:53.520 ship like that and Oscars. Yeah, I don't. I don't 2:27:53.560 --> 2:27:56.280 never watch that show. I'm gonna watching next year. Just 2:27:56.320 --> 2:27:59.680 want to see is gonna get it flicked? Yeah, sounds 2:28:00.800 --> 2:28:04.760 I never watched you Are you Award? Your God? Yeah? Yeah? 2:28:05.959 --> 2:28:08.879 My team breaks and ship? Uh you know, I mean 2:28:09.040 --> 2:28:11.800 anything that you know they gotta do with music and 2:28:11.920 --> 2:28:15.000 especially if I'm involved, and yeah, I'm tuned in, I listen. 2:28:15.040 --> 2:28:18.240 I want everything that comes along with it, you know 2:28:18.240 --> 2:28:20.080 what I'm saying, everything that comes along with the game. 2:28:20.600 --> 2:28:25.160 For sure. That was I was super proud of of 2:28:25.440 --> 2:28:31.800 Daytona being nominated. Yeah, super proud of that. Like, um, 2:28:32.320 --> 2:28:36.000 it was good man. It was just like you just 2:28:36.120 --> 2:28:39.039 think about me. I remember vividly being at the rock 2:28:39.160 --> 2:28:42.280 Nation brunch with Nipsey and it's like high five and 2:28:42.360 --> 2:28:49.320 and laughing like you WoT my white House ship to right? Yeah? Yeah, 2:28:49.360 --> 2:28:53.040 but just um, you know, just being being at the 2:28:53.160 --> 2:28:57.640 rock Nation brunch man and we like giggling, laughing, high 2:28:57.720 --> 2:28:59.879 five and like yo we got we grabam me now, 2:29:00.000 --> 2:29:03.160 and they were in the same category like didn't fucked up? 2:29:03.360 --> 2:29:07.200 This is crazy, you know, and just just being really happy. 2:29:07.280 --> 2:29:09.840 I remember like discussing with him just about being really 2:29:09.959 --> 2:29:15.200 happy about the category itself. I felt like they got it, yeah, 2:29:15.280 --> 2:29:18.840 really like he I felt like they really got it right. Um, 2:29:19.320 --> 2:29:23.720 Cardi b ended up winning that year and m and 2:29:23.800 --> 2:29:25.560 I still like, you know, I get it. Was it 2:29:25.640 --> 2:29:28.080 was Cardi, it was myself, It was Nipsy, was mcmiller, 2:29:28.160 --> 2:29:32.360 was Travis Scott. I felt like they got all all fastests, 2:29:32.400 --> 2:29:34.800 all across the board, and you know, at the end 2:29:34.800 --> 2:29:36.120 of the day when it comes to the vote and 2:29:36.160 --> 2:29:38.240 it's just who they pick or whatever and who they 2:29:38.320 --> 2:29:41.800 think performs the best. But you know, it was something 2:29:41.879 --> 2:29:43.880 that I don't think any of us could be mad at. 2:29:44.560 --> 2:29:49.560 You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, the right, Yeah, no, listen, 2:29:49.680 --> 2:29:54.440 the Cardi one, she deserved that. But you know, having 2:29:54.720 --> 2:29:57.920 what it is that I do in hip hop, my content, 2:29:58.000 --> 2:29:59.600 the ship. I talked about the ship. Where this ship 2:29:59.720 --> 2:30:05.480 is from, next to that, next to Mac, next to Travis, 2:30:06.120 --> 2:30:10.040 nip like it was bro I couldn't ask for nothing better. 2:30:10.240 --> 2:30:12.560 And to put it in perspectives, I'm not wrong. The 2:30:12.640 --> 2:30:16.879 Grammys before combined R and B and rap. Yes, sir, yes, sir, 2:30:17.080 --> 2:30:20.360 like that was crazy, Yes, sir. You remember listen they 2:30:20.400 --> 2:30:23.800 start a whole committee. Remember they like, there's a whole 2:30:23.840 --> 2:30:25.840 committee if they do one vote, and then they then 2:30:25.879 --> 2:30:28.560 they bringing their committee folks and be like, let's edit 2:30:28.640 --> 2:30:30.879 this up a little bit, you know, those who are 2:30:31.000 --> 2:30:35.840 part of the the board. You know what I'm saying, Man, 2:30:35.920 --> 2:30:37.960 I missed the days of can you used to interrupt? You? 2:30:40.879 --> 2:30:43.760 Leave you alone? Ye let let you chill? He chilling 2:30:43.879 --> 2:30:55.879 right now, chilling, chill. I told him stay you at piece. 2:30:55.959 --> 2:31:02.879 You listen, He's listening, peaceful, calm, we giggling, laughing. Give 2:31:03.600 --> 2:31:08.000 he designed my merch. I'm like, you know, it's you know, 2:31:08.040 --> 2:31:10.280 it's crazy. It was one day and I can't I 2:31:10.360 --> 2:31:13.160 can't reveal anything me and him spoke about. But it 2:31:13.400 --> 2:31:16.440 was crazy that he had called me one day and 2:31:16.520 --> 2:31:20.920 one of my friends called me with the same exact problem. 2:31:22.120 --> 2:31:24.240 And it was like one of my niggers got ten 2:31:24.360 --> 2:31:28.240 billions and one of my dudes probably even had ten 2:31:28.320 --> 2:31:35.720 dollars and they had the same exact problem. And that 2:31:35.800 --> 2:31:37.959 ship changed my life. I remember where I was at, 2:31:38.080 --> 2:31:42.920 was downstairs on the beach, and I just got one 2:31:42.959 --> 2:31:45.879 call for one dude and I got another call for another. 2:31:46.080 --> 2:31:48.920 It was salmon tasey right back and it was like 2:31:49.080 --> 2:31:50.959 they had the same exact for um, That's what let 2:31:51.000 --> 2:31:55.160 me know that money probably doesn't really make you happy. 2:31:55.840 --> 2:31:59.080 It gives you, it puts you on that street. But 2:31:59.200 --> 2:32:01.160 in order for you to be happy or not, you 2:32:01.240 --> 2:32:04.480 gotta walk through that. No, money makes me happy. Yeah, 2:32:04.680 --> 2:32:10.440 money does make me happy. But what I'm saying, when 2:32:10.480 --> 2:32:12.720 I got out the car, right, what I do? What 2:32:12.840 --> 2:32:14.600 did I do when I got out the car? As 2:32:14.640 --> 2:32:16.760 soon as I got off the car, Okay, we got 2:32:16.840 --> 2:32:27.959 you walked o right to your camera. Yes, money makes 2:32:27.959 --> 2:32:31.280 me happy too, But I'm saying overall, you have to 2:32:31.360 --> 2:32:35.640 have something else that do you agree with for sure? No, 2:32:36.200 --> 2:32:39.800 for sure you have to Yeah, yeah, but but I 2:32:39.959 --> 2:32:46.160 think that I think that um, money makes things better 2:32:47.160 --> 2:32:49.880 for sure. I mean you know, being happy, Like, being 2:32:49.959 --> 2:32:53.560 happy is something that you gotta like that starts within. 2:32:54.000 --> 2:32:57.880 You have a smoke, bad bad week before. Na's horrible. Na, 2:32:58.160 --> 2:33:00.200 you don't never want to be broke. No, it's a 2:33:00.240 --> 2:33:04.760 horrible thing. You start being mad at everyone because you're smoking, 2:33:04.840 --> 2:33:09.400 harsh no smoking set I smoke. I smoked on vacation, 2:33:09.520 --> 2:33:12.680 every blue everything, And then yeah you want smoke, smoke 2:33:12.760 --> 2:33:21.280 chap joint. I'm cool, right, now I'm drinking drinking. One 2:33:21.280 --> 2:33:25.560 of the things that I noticed is you were very 2:33:25.680 --> 2:33:28.800 famous in the industry for having a whole line of 2:33:29.000 --> 2:33:34.200 Cardi Air bracelets, bust Down, Cartier bust down. That's not 2:33:34.400 --> 2:33:40.879 my thing. Watches, watches, let's smoke down. You know, I've 2:33:40.920 --> 2:33:43.160 treated it. I got rid of my card as soon 2:33:43.200 --> 2:33:50.600 as I get the get rid of the riggor came 2:33:50.640 --> 2:33:52.760 out soreggor came out of hate my jewel. I said, listen, 2:33:52.760 --> 2:33:57.520 like I get rid of this. Yeah, do you under 2:33:57.560 --> 2:33:59.440 do you understand what you don't if you're a real 2:33:59.760 --> 2:34:04.400 watch people, Yeah, the real watch people, you can just watch. 2:34:05.040 --> 2:34:08.760 I can sit on myself. I Watchler, I have been. 2:34:09.240 --> 2:34:13.840 I haven't been to watch Lover. I'm know I'm kind 2:34:13.879 --> 2:34:17.959 of sore, but I'm not. I don't have the ship 2:34:18.080 --> 2:34:20.880 that looked like nothing, that's six hundred thousand. I don't have, 2:34:21.920 --> 2:34:27.080 you know what I mean, like, I know what they 2:34:27.160 --> 2:34:33.640 look like. But but for people that don't know that's 2:34:33.640 --> 2:34:38.160 a normal watch guy, Cartier bust downs are not good. 2:34:39.040 --> 2:34:43.360 They're just not my thing. They're just not my thing. 2:34:44.800 --> 2:34:47.960 That's it. I mean, you know, it teaches own, but 2:34:48.080 --> 2:34:52.080 they're just not my thing. I like I like, I 2:34:52.160 --> 2:34:58.480 love to bracelet. How about the regular Cardier watches without 2:34:58.760 --> 2:35:02.200 bust out. I I think they look nice playing Judy's 2:35:02.280 --> 2:35:05.560 I think they look nice. Yeah, they're nice. Yeah. Okay, 2:35:06.040 --> 2:35:09.040 that is a Batman you have on? Yes, that is 2:35:09.120 --> 2:35:14.600 a Submariner GM g MT Batman. The man is out 2:35:14.640 --> 2:35:18.640 here exclusive, y'all. The band is out. Don't look it, 2:35:19.320 --> 2:35:21.600 don't look. That's the that's the funk you watch. You 2:35:21.640 --> 2:35:23.640 know what I'm saying, Like you know when you just 2:35:23.760 --> 2:35:26.400 outside because you know it looked normal and ship, but 2:35:26.440 --> 2:35:31.400 you can't find that through the retailer's crazy. So I'm 2:35:31.440 --> 2:35:34.080 doing that. We're trying to do a watch show, win 2:35:35.760 --> 2:35:39.000 wine and watches and watch what is? Because you lamed 2:35:39.040 --> 2:35:43.560 your album Daytona. Yeah, what is your favorite Daytona? Uh? 2:35:43.760 --> 2:35:48.800 The Green Anniversary, Green Face Anniversary of Gold, all Gold. 2:35:48.879 --> 2:35:51.800 I bought that for my wife here and I paid 2:35:51.840 --> 2:35:54.240 and I and I and I and I and I say, 2:35:54.800 --> 2:35:58.640 what it for your wife? A different type of money. 2:36:00.440 --> 2:36:05.640 But the favorite Daytona is the all Gold Green Face Anniversary. 2:36:05.840 --> 2:36:09.879 Very very hard, very very very It's like forms flex show. 2:36:10.200 --> 2:36:11.960 Harder to get a ticket. It was, it was, it 2:36:12.160 --> 2:36:18.480 was I paid over then I never never paid overfore watch. Yeah, 2:36:18.600 --> 2:36:21.240 I never in my life paid overfore watch. So you 2:36:21.320 --> 2:36:26.040 got direct to Rolex yeah, director director Rolex Germany, direct 2:36:26.560 --> 2:36:30.039 to Rolex Um. Not even to Rolex, but to an 2:36:30.080 --> 2:36:32.520 authorized dealer here who's been down with them for like 2:36:32.760 --> 2:36:35.840 thirty years. So that's where I by all my watches 2:36:35.879 --> 2:36:40.240 from Germany and Miami, Germany. The family was in Atlanta. 2:36:40.480 --> 2:36:43.440 They were in Atlanta and they have another store in 2:36:43.720 --> 2:36:48.600 l Alynndale, Lindale, and you get so you found there 2:36:48.720 --> 2:36:54.280 was I've always been retail, retail, retail until the green 2:36:54.400 --> 2:36:57.279 face and now wife, you wanted that, that was your suggestion, 2:36:57.879 --> 2:37:01.400 that was what I think she should have. Ye she's boys, yea, 2:37:01.800 --> 2:37:05.200 she only wear Man watches. Don't seen the white lady 2:37:05.240 --> 2:37:07.400 do that to us? Watch the other day the white 2:37:07.480 --> 2:37:12.880 Lady came in Mkodo and and I was like, excuse me, 2:37:12.959 --> 2:37:15.960 I had that, excuse me what is that? And she 2:37:16.080 --> 2:37:19.879 was like, oh, this is the Mad's presidentiary. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:37:20.160 --> 2:37:25.760 that is some Yeah, that is some fly ship. So 2:37:26.000 --> 2:37:30.960 but yeah, but now I uh, I believe I paid 2:37:33.120 --> 2:37:38.680 just twenty over and now today it's like over yeah, yeah, 2:37:39.000 --> 2:37:42.640 it's it's it's yeah, when your name because I uh, 2:37:42.879 --> 2:37:45.840 you know, patting you on your back when you name 2:37:45.920 --> 2:37:49.600 the album Daytona, it's it's crazy. Since then, it seems 2:37:49.600 --> 2:37:53.000 like watches appreciate it before. No, a little bit, A 2:37:53.000 --> 2:37:55.160 little bit before no, no, no, look a little bit 2:37:55.200 --> 2:37:58.200 after that. I think that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you 2:37:58.320 --> 2:38:01.120 think you I don't know, it's me. I would have credit. 2:38:03.760 --> 2:38:09.320 You ain't seen two up. But it's true. But Daytona, Yeah, 2:38:09.440 --> 2:38:13.160 Daytona was was was just about having the luxury of time. 2:38:13.440 --> 2:38:15.200 Did you know that Daytona at that time when you 2:38:15.320 --> 2:38:18.320 named it, that the most expensive rolex there is is 2:38:18.360 --> 2:38:22.920 a Daytona. I don't think. I don't know if I knew. 2:38:23.040 --> 2:38:26.039 Is that the one that um the rainbow? It's two 2:38:26.080 --> 2:38:30.400 of them. Oh, it's one of the most expensive one factory, Yes, 2:38:31.080 --> 2:38:34.760 from factory Okay, yes, that one, and I believe it's 2:38:35.200 --> 2:38:38.000 Nicolas Cage has one. That's what I was getting. That 2:38:38.959 --> 2:38:40.400 was That's what I thought you was. I mean, I 2:38:40.480 --> 2:38:43.080 thought you were going back to the somebody got an 2:38:43.120 --> 2:38:46.760 original life, he got some stupid Yeah, yeah, he got 2:38:46.959 --> 2:38:50.560 don't even look like a real wife. It's like you 2:38:50.640 --> 2:38:54.160 just know it's going to sixty seconds. He got got 2:38:55.640 --> 2:38:57.520 I think him and I think it's is the guy 2:38:57.600 --> 2:39:00.280 John Mayor too, maybe John Mays a John he's a 2:39:00.360 --> 2:39:03.560 Rolette just gave him for saying nigga, because you remember 2:39:03.640 --> 2:39:08.000 he said nigga back in the days. Yes, help me, Yeah, 2:39:08.400 --> 2:39:10.360 he said. He was in the Vibe magazine. He said, 2:39:11.920 --> 2:39:17.960 and come on, I mean, let's go, let's just let's 2:39:17.959 --> 2:39:24.760 just go. Yeah, he's a big watch guy. Is a 2:39:24.800 --> 2:39:29.920 big watch guy. Okay, yeah, yeah, me and Sharon have 2:39:30.120 --> 2:39:34.600 the same chocolate face Daytona chocolate with the leather band. Yeah. 2:39:34.680 --> 2:39:37.320 We um he was working with chocolate with the leather band. 2:39:37.760 --> 2:39:40.760 Oh you sophisticated, you got suits. I got a couple, 2:39:41.800 --> 2:39:49.840 you got right, he um um. He was down here 2:39:49.879 --> 2:39:52.640 working with p one time, and that's when we discovered that. Yeah, 2:39:53.160 --> 2:39:57.280 and he had the orange at the time. I forget, 2:39:58.000 --> 2:40:01.760 wasn't that. I think it's orange or Bergny's somewhere. Yeah, 2:40:02.520 --> 2:40:11.440 we got we got to get you a wife. I'm sorry, 2:40:11.720 --> 2:40:15.520 Where do you think lyricism is going in hip hop? 2:40:16.080 --> 2:40:20.600 Because it felt that in the nineties, right like coming 2:40:20.640 --> 2:40:23.080 out of the late eighties. We talked about the era 2:40:23.200 --> 2:40:25.800 and then go into the nineties, you could get it. 2:40:25.879 --> 2:40:27.959 You could have got a deal off of a clue 2:40:28.040 --> 2:40:33.560 mixtape kicking a crazy six team right sounding that you 2:40:33.640 --> 2:40:35.640 could have kicked these lyrics and you didn't even know 2:40:35.720 --> 2:40:37.680 half of these words. You were saying what they meant, 2:40:38.000 --> 2:40:41.720 right as long as it sounded good. And then we 2:40:41.879 --> 2:40:46.040 departed from that heavy Where do you think the future 2:40:46.080 --> 2:40:50.120 of lyricism is in hip hop right now? UM? I 2:40:50.240 --> 2:40:57.440 think that as long as there's somebody, um who has 2:40:57.720 --> 2:41:01.920 the who has the passion, who has the passion for 2:41:02.520 --> 2:41:06.119 for finding that lyric driven hip hop, you know, whether 2:41:06.160 --> 2:41:10.039 they be in these labels or whether they're a fan. UM, 2:41:10.080 --> 2:41:12.440 I think lyricism is gonna be here forever. I don't think. 2:41:12.720 --> 2:41:15.880 I don't think the fundamentals of hip hop die like. 2:41:16.200 --> 2:41:22.320 I think that that is what UM. That is always 2:41:22.360 --> 2:41:27.360 gonna be the cornerstone, cornerstone and driving force of anybody 2:41:27.560 --> 2:41:33.360 who we say is nice out here? So and there's all. 2:41:33.480 --> 2:41:36.480 And when you think about it, think about everybody, you know, 2:41:36.560 --> 2:41:38.800 all the biggest in the game. You know what I'm saying, 2:41:39.160 --> 2:41:42.000 They all are you know, respective for their pen or 2:41:42.040 --> 2:41:45.280 respective for their lyricism. You know, you have all other 2:41:45.720 --> 2:41:49.480 type of subgenres of hip hop. Um, you know, more 2:41:49.640 --> 2:41:52.920 viaby more whatever. But at the base of it all, 2:41:53.440 --> 2:41:55.080 even you know, look at future and look at what 2:41:55.160 --> 2:41:58.320 future does when you when you but when you hear 2:41:58.400 --> 2:42:00.640 him and you decipher what he's saying, and even he 2:42:00.840 --> 2:42:03.760 has a title of being like the illest toxic motherfucker 2:42:04.080 --> 2:42:06.440 because you you know, because people can hear and understand 2:42:06.480 --> 2:42:08.880 and relate to what he's talking about. That too is 2:42:09.000 --> 2:42:13.360 like because I'm from Miami, and to me, Trick was 2:42:13.440 --> 2:42:16.080 like the jay Z of Miami. If you from Miami, 2:42:16.160 --> 2:42:19.920 you understand what he's talking. He's talking about for sure, 2:42:20.080 --> 2:42:23.520 Hella lyrical for sure. But UM, let me actually, because um, 2:42:24.640 --> 2:42:26.960 I've heard you bring up future to automatically made me 2:42:27.040 --> 2:42:29.800 think of designer, right, let me me think of that 2:42:29.920 --> 2:42:32.840 you were the president at the time. And um, he's 2:42:32.879 --> 2:42:36.680 been trying to get at us um quite some time, 2:42:37.280 --> 2:42:39.440 and I haven't been able to speak to him direct. 2:42:39.440 --> 2:42:43.920 I don't think you have neither right designer independent, but um, 2:42:45.000 --> 2:42:48.280 and his claim is, you know, Kanye, you got my publishing. 2:42:49.040 --> 2:42:52.240 Good Music has the rights to me. He doesn't get 2:42:53.080 --> 2:42:56.160 any publisher and he doesn't get any royalties. He doesn't 2:42:56.200 --> 2:43:01.040 get any anything like that. But yet I believe when 2:43:01.640 --> 2:43:05.640 the signing did happen, it was a big upfront check. Right. 2:43:06.600 --> 2:43:09.320 Where are you stand on positions like that? I mean 2:43:09.480 --> 2:43:12.800 I feel like I feel like, well, I know, Designer 2:43:12.840 --> 2:43:16.120 made a lot of money, made tons of money, and 2:43:16.200 --> 2:43:20.199 it's a difference from front money. Um. I mean, however 2:43:20.280 --> 2:43:22.280 you want to look at it, he made, he made. 2:43:22.480 --> 2:43:26.280 He came in the game and made tons of money. 2:43:27.280 --> 2:43:33.120 No line, Um, you know I'm not on his you know, 2:43:33.680 --> 2:43:37.400 in his management or anything like that. So yeah, so 2:43:37.680 --> 2:43:39.959 I mean I don't know, Um, I don't know how 2:43:40.240 --> 2:43:45.160 even his deal in structure. I know, I know he 2:43:45.959 --> 2:43:48.120 you know, I'm sure it was negotiated by his lawyer 2:43:48.240 --> 2:43:53.240 for sure. And however that turned out. You know, he 2:43:53.520 --> 2:44:00.120 was he he approved it, whatever it was, you know 2:44:00.160 --> 2:44:03.480 what I'm saying. And ship when you think about it, 2:44:03.480 --> 2:44:06.040 I mean, you know, Designer was hot man like super hot, 2:44:06.560 --> 2:44:11.040 came into the game, you uh made, made your song 2:44:11.320 --> 2:44:16.680 one of his biggest records on Pablo, Um gave you 2:44:16.720 --> 2:44:18.880 a hell of a springboard, hell of a you know, 2:44:19.360 --> 2:44:25.120 hell of a trampoline to jump off. And yeah, I 2:44:25.200 --> 2:44:27.480 mean I don't know, like I don't hear like you see, 2:44:27.520 --> 2:44:32.080 I don't hear the side of like designer being disgrunted. 2:44:33.000 --> 2:44:37.760 I don't hear. UM's it's a case because whoever he's calling, 2:44:37.920 --> 2:44:41.040 that's their point as saying, Yo, listen. He wants to 2:44:41.080 --> 2:44:44.360 say like how he didn't he doesn't receive royalties and 2:44:44.640 --> 2:44:47.880 um uh, he doesn't own his publishing or whatever. And 2:44:48.000 --> 2:44:50.600 it's it's something that you know, when I got in 2:44:50.640 --> 2:44:52.800 the game, I sold my publish and I didn't know, Uh, 2:44:53.000 --> 2:44:55.000 you didn't know you sold it. I didn't know. I 2:44:55.080 --> 2:44:57.280 got it back the next very next hour, very next 2:44:57.560 --> 2:45:00.880 you sold it, though, but you know I know I knew. 2:45:00.920 --> 2:45:06.440 I knew it afterwards after Um, whose fault is that? No? 2:45:06.560 --> 2:45:08.880 That was depletely my fault. Okay, it was clearly my 2:45:08.959 --> 2:45:11.600 fun You were hella young, You were like what, I'm seventeen, 2:45:11.920 --> 2:45:16.760 I was seventeen eight. Maybe not your fault because council. Yeah, 2:45:17.440 --> 2:45:22.360 but but but you know, having uh you know, having 2:45:22.560 --> 2:45:26.520 having having lawyers and and and being in tune with 2:45:26.640 --> 2:45:29.440 your lawyer and your team being in tune with your lawyer, 2:45:29.560 --> 2:45:32.000 that that definitely does fall on you because you've got 2:45:32.120 --> 2:45:36.720 artists right now too, right Uh, money on Um no, no, y'all, 2:45:36.800 --> 2:45:39.480 y'all just my man. Okay, okay, y'ah my man, y'a y'all, 2:45:39.560 --> 2:45:42.680 y'all getting too much money to be my honest already. 2:45:44.600 --> 2:45:51.920 So to speak about your speak about I don't know 2:45:52.000 --> 2:45:57.720 what we told about that, but yeah, yeah, I have 2:45:58.160 --> 2:46:01.720 a record label that I'm that I'm building, not good music, yeah, 2:46:03.800 --> 2:46:09.400 Airway Music Group, Um it is, um it's it's basically 2:46:09.560 --> 2:46:14.400 me building the infrastructure for people from the Virginia area 2:46:15.040 --> 2:46:19.199 to be noticed. Like the one thing that I always 2:46:19.240 --> 2:46:21.400 say is that when you think about all of us 2:46:21.600 --> 2:46:24.760 who came into the game Tennessee for real, clips whatever, 2:46:26.480 --> 2:46:31.360 being not producers, whoever, Right, Um, we all had to 2:46:31.480 --> 2:46:36.039 leave and go get hot, skills, goog whatever. We all 2:46:36.160 --> 2:46:38.520 had to leave and go get hot I mean you 2:46:38.560 --> 2:46:40.560 know we had to leave and go ask for deals 2:46:42.680 --> 2:46:45.280 at that time, right, Well, yeah, for every region it 2:46:45.440 --> 2:46:48.400 wasn't outside of New York, outside of New York, and 2:46:56.440 --> 2:47:01.000 it was where the industry was. So so would that 2:47:01.080 --> 2:47:04.920 be in the case, and again we were adopted by 2:47:05.360 --> 2:47:08.760 that New York circuit. Virginia was. We never took the 2:47:08.879 --> 2:47:11.920 time that Houston did to build out there's or Memphis did, 2:47:12.040 --> 2:47:16.240 or in Atlanta did or Bay Area? It right, they 2:47:16.360 --> 2:47:20.039 did that, so you know, come around fast forward. That's 2:47:20.080 --> 2:47:23.880 why when you look at what's hot, what's going on, 2:47:24.040 --> 2:47:26.680 what's bubbling under, what's got the most streams, so on 2:47:26.760 --> 2:47:29.640 and so forth, that's not signed yet, you can see 2:47:29.680 --> 2:47:33.680 it in all those different places because those places, you know, 2:47:34.120 --> 2:47:38.520 taught the people how to even be fans of their neighbor. 2:47:39.240 --> 2:47:42.080 We never, we never were talked that. So that's that's 2:47:42.080 --> 2:47:45.879 the whole goal. And Airway Music a Airwave Airway music group. 2:47:46.000 --> 2:47:51.040 Um uh shouting R and B songstress. Um, oh yeah 2:47:51.120 --> 2:47:57.640 she was at we we met her revolt. Yeah she's 2:47:57.720 --> 2:48:06.400 she's so no we she's dope at right. Yeah. So 2:48:07.320 --> 2:48:10.840 um you know, uh Leado, why not do something good? Bro, 2:48:12.320 --> 2:48:18.280 I've been drinking, but yeah, why not douce Leado shout 2:48:18.360 --> 2:48:23.320 ling Um. You know. Also not signed, not signed to 2:48:23.320 --> 2:48:26.640 the Airwave, but I manage him with my man dre 2:48:27.520 --> 2:48:30.560 Um is young Chris. He's like really viral right now. 2:48:30.680 --> 2:48:34.160 He's on the little Techer tour. They signed in Colombia. 2:48:34.800 --> 2:48:36.600 But um, so it's a it's a few, it's a 2:48:36.680 --> 2:48:39.400 few uh people out of out of v a right 2:48:39.440 --> 2:48:42.119 now making noise and more that aren't that aren't affiliated 2:48:42.160 --> 2:48:45.160 with me. But the whole goal for airwave is to 2:48:45.240 --> 2:48:47.720 create that infrastructure so that it can be more to 2:48:47.800 --> 2:48:50.320 come through and signed me or don't sign me, whatever 2:48:50.360 --> 2:48:53.680 the case may be. At least at least they will 2:48:54.080 --> 2:48:58.120 garner that fanfare that will get them national attention eventually. 2:48:58.680 --> 2:49:06.240 That's the goal that still um Barreto was one of 2:49:06.280 --> 2:49:08.920 the greatest producers of all time, without a doubt, no 2:49:09.400 --> 2:49:14.400 nothing to talk about. Yes, why do you think that? 2:49:14.800 --> 2:49:18.920 He kind of because I always say that, you know, 2:49:19.080 --> 2:49:23.200 I always say that because, um, how my career was. 2:49:23.480 --> 2:49:26.320 I was the man. I was the man in New York, 2:49:26.400 --> 2:49:28.680 and at the time, being a man in New York 2:49:28.760 --> 2:49:30.680 did mean you was the man all over the place. 2:49:31.200 --> 2:49:32.840 But it didn't mean all over the place was going 2:49:32.879 --> 2:49:37.520 to accept you. And that beat that for well. He 2:49:37.640 --> 2:49:41.480 was smart enough to say I'm gonna leave super Thug 2:49:41.520 --> 2:49:44.920 because he could swipt those drums and made it sound 2:49:44.959 --> 2:49:48.359 like Premo drums, made it sound like Lawn's Professor drums, 2:49:48.840 --> 2:49:51.360 made it sound like having drums would have never did 2:49:51.440 --> 2:49:54.880 that though, I'll tell you why. But and this was 2:49:55.040 --> 2:49:58.039 the first time where people really got to hear East 2:49:58.120 --> 2:50:02.000 Coast do rhyme on what is considered almost a south 2:50:02.120 --> 2:50:07.640 beat and I wouldn't say quite south, but almost. And 2:50:08.360 --> 2:50:11.720 I've seen the effect I've seen. I've seen me be 2:50:11.760 --> 2:50:14.959 in the studio with with with like you said, all 2:50:15.000 --> 2:50:17.680 this time, He'll hear a story, He'll make a beat 2:50:17.800 --> 2:50:21.080 around the story, He'll make around the story. I've seen 2:50:21.160 --> 2:50:24.840 him create magic out of nowhere. How can every time 2:50:24.920 --> 2:50:27.360 I say this around him he bows his head and 2:50:27.480 --> 2:50:30.240 he gets humble? Is that is that because he really 2:50:30.440 --> 2:50:36.600 he really hated. I hated. I hate it. I absolutely 2:50:36.760 --> 2:50:39.920 hated that. He doesn't want to be coy about it. Yes, 2:50:40.320 --> 2:50:44.320 I want him to be hip hop about it. Yeah, yeah, 2:50:44.480 --> 2:50:45.920 that's what I'm like. You know what I'm saying, Like 2:50:46.360 --> 2:50:49.040 you know, I hate it, like I absolutely hate it. 2:50:49.120 --> 2:50:54.040 He knows I hate it. I hated like bad, like 2:50:54.360 --> 2:50:57.760 you know, it's it's like it's tough, it's like you know, 2:50:59.320 --> 2:51:00.920 you know. And maybe that works with some of the 2:51:01.040 --> 2:51:03.960 music that he does. But like when we on what 2:51:04.080 --> 2:51:09.920 we're on, I need you to be big chains, big 2:51:10.040 --> 2:51:15.520 cars crashing ferraris. Like I remember where I would come 2:51:15.560 --> 2:51:18.280 to the studio playing with Swiss Beat Joint and he'll 2:51:18.360 --> 2:51:24.760 just look at me like, all right, bro, listen the whole, 2:51:24.959 --> 2:51:28.400 the whole, the whole, that whole, early two thousand things 2:51:28.480 --> 2:51:33.960 was all about competition. Ryandon was specifically made to try 2:51:34.120 --> 2:51:41.480 to do something that could eclipse the Benjamin's disrupted. That 2:51:42.040 --> 2:51:45.920 was the goal. That was the goal. Um, when you 2:51:46.040 --> 2:51:50.000 talk about Primo and and and people like that, who 2:51:50.080 --> 2:51:55.200 are his you know he's you know, he's there right right, 2:51:56.080 --> 2:51:59.920 but still going into the studio, it was like, Okay, 2:52:00.160 --> 2:52:04.040 what can I do to outdo that? He's the reason, right, 2:52:04.120 --> 2:52:07.279 here's the reason now that I when I listen to beats, 2:52:07.600 --> 2:52:10.400 they got to be something unorthodox. It doesn't like I 2:52:10.480 --> 2:52:13.120 don't like just muddy, hard beats. I don't. I don't 2:52:13.160 --> 2:52:15.400 like that. That's not because I know now that beats 2:52:15.440 --> 2:52:18.440 can be bright and have like beasts can be hard, 2:52:18.520 --> 2:52:22.080 and it can be super thug level of chaos starting 2:52:22.160 --> 2:52:26.160 fights and all that be right, don't gotta be muddy 2:52:26.240 --> 2:52:28.119 and trudgy. And you know what I'm saying, you would 2:52:28.120 --> 2:52:31.840 have never thought for the first time in the studio, 2:52:31.879 --> 2:52:34.920 I'm assuming you know it's crazy. When we first placed 2:52:35.080 --> 2:52:38.320 with program directors and you know, mixture people, they said 2:52:38.320 --> 2:52:40.640 the record was too dark. Yep. So that's the reason 2:52:40.720 --> 2:52:42.760 why we if you noticed, we never made a dark 2:52:43.400 --> 2:52:46.120 scene in the video, we made it all bright because 2:52:46.800 --> 2:52:48.840 and they said it was too dark because you know why, 2:52:48.920 --> 2:52:51.440 I never heard that it was crazy. It's this is crazy. 2:52:51.920 --> 2:52:56.560 And Rod Walker definitely knows this. My reputation as a 2:52:56.640 --> 2:52:59.120 street dude was so bad at the time, and they 2:52:59.160 --> 2:53:01.560 didn't hear about the NEP tunes. They didn't. They didn't. 2:53:02.200 --> 2:53:04.160 They didn't realize that this is the same dude that 2:53:04.160 --> 2:53:06.200 I was doing the Mace records, that was doing the 2:53:06.280 --> 2:53:12.560 Pump records. They do it. We t u yes the 2:53:12.600 --> 2:53:14.200 way it used to be like one of the best. 2:53:14.360 --> 2:53:18.440 And they thought they were gamesters. So they're like, we 2:53:18.520 --> 2:53:20.520 can't be happy you guys with these Neptune guys. But 2:53:20.600 --> 2:53:22.520 until I put them in the video and they was like, oh, 2:53:22.800 --> 2:53:27.240 these guys are not gamesters at all at all, which works, 2:53:27.400 --> 2:53:29.560 you know what I'm saying. But I go back to 2:53:29.680 --> 2:53:32.640 say that, like, you know, I was a kid, you know, 2:53:32.800 --> 2:53:35.080 doing that. I was a kid watching y'all make grinding. 2:53:35.360 --> 2:53:38.840 I was a kid watching these beautiful albums in these 2:53:38.840 --> 2:53:41.600 beautiful records coming together. And when I come back and 2:53:41.680 --> 2:53:44.160 I think about it, I was like, this dude, if 2:53:44.520 --> 2:53:48.120 not the he is one of the best producers of 2:53:48.160 --> 2:53:52.440 more times for sure. He took me from a sound 2:53:52.879 --> 2:53:55.920 that was clearly just for New York like like like 2:53:56.200 --> 2:53:59.760 to this day, I'm nothing Miami for fifteen years to 2:54:00.160 --> 2:54:03.760 open up my mouth, but from New York I can't. 2:54:05.120 --> 2:54:08.959 I can't, right, But he was able to take my boys, 2:54:09.080 --> 2:54:11.800 keep me in New York, but make me international. That 2:54:11.959 --> 2:54:18.480 was I was amazing. Can I ask you for for 2:54:19.560 --> 2:54:22.360 for pure ignorance? Because the Neptunes is the Neptune, the 2:54:22.400 --> 2:54:26.280 last Chad and Pharrell? Yeah, what's Chat's rolling that? Because 2:54:26.320 --> 2:54:29.080 because you know, when you're referring to Super Thug to me, 2:54:29.200 --> 2:54:33.320 that's the Neptune, but you're referring to Farrell alone. What's 2:54:33.440 --> 2:54:37.320 Chat's rolling in in the production? Um? Well, I've worked 2:54:37.360 --> 2:54:40.440 with them through many eras, so you know, when I 2:54:40.520 --> 2:54:45.400 initially was working with the Neptunes, Um, let's say for 2:54:45.760 --> 2:54:48.959 the album that never came out or for Lord Willing, 2:54:49.440 --> 2:54:53.360 it was more of Uh, Chad would do the keys 2:54:53.400 --> 2:54:57.240 and the chords, and he would play um and add 2:54:57.520 --> 2:54:59.960 you know those type of like keyboards signs. He was 2:55:00.040 --> 2:55:04.000 just Scott Storch of that situation. Yeah, I guess. I 2:55:04.160 --> 2:55:07.240 don't know. I don't want to. Yeah, I guess because 2:55:07.280 --> 2:55:11.200 he's famous for playing, so yeah, playing, Yeah, that's what 2:55:11.600 --> 2:55:13.480 that's what he did. It was it was that, it 2:55:13.600 --> 2:55:15.600 was the it was the playing, and it was the sounds, 2:55:15.720 --> 2:55:19.440 like you know, finding those unorthodox sounds that would go 2:55:19.560 --> 2:55:23.400 into the Neptune sound. You know, it was funny. Sorry 2:55:23.440 --> 2:55:26.240 to cut you off. I always thought it was all 2:55:26.440 --> 2:55:29.560 both of them, like at one point um when like 2:55:29.720 --> 2:55:31.480 we're all we're just coming around and it wouldn't be 2:55:31.560 --> 2:55:33.840 a child. I would always feel jerk, like what's going on? 2:55:34.120 --> 2:55:37.000 Like I never knew that they can co exist without 2:55:37.040 --> 2:55:41.040 each other because I mean, you know, for Pharrell, at 2:55:41.120 --> 2:55:44.960 the time, Pharrell wasn't playing, and then he started playing, 2:55:45.640 --> 2:55:50.440 and then and things like that. So now you get 2:55:50.520 --> 2:55:54.720 into hell hath no Fury and that's all for Rell, 2:55:56.160 --> 2:56:02.160 you know, and I mean, you know, mostly for real. 2:56:02.200 --> 2:56:04.000 I mean I'm trying to think back, and I don't 2:56:04.040 --> 2:56:06.760 want to like say anything that's wrong or whatever, but 2:56:08.160 --> 2:56:11.560 hell half No Fury was very top to bottom p 2:56:12.480 --> 2:56:20.080 r um um you know. Uh, since then, it has 2:56:20.240 --> 2:56:24.160 definitely been a lot of p Then maybe there's some 2:56:24.320 --> 2:56:30.080 post production co production and definitely mixing Um on the 2:56:30.160 --> 2:56:37.959 engineering side of the final product with chad Um. But um, 2:56:39.200 --> 2:56:41.760 you know, it just depends on the project. I just 2:56:41.800 --> 2:56:44.560 think it's important when we talk about that era that 2:56:44.680 --> 2:56:46.720 it was both of them. Oh yeah, I mean you're 2:56:46.720 --> 2:56:49.720 talking about Yeah, you're talking about what I'm saying is 2:56:49.760 --> 2:56:52.800 the neptune. And then when when breaks off, it's clearly 2:56:53.000 --> 2:56:56.360 it's it's Pas going in. Yeah, he's doing both. I 2:56:56.360 --> 2:56:59.880 feel comfortable with by itself. Yeah, but but it's always 2:57:00.120 --> 2:57:02.760 like it's always like um, and I don't want to 2:57:02.760 --> 2:57:05.800 say it, like this was always like seeing like Santa 2:57:05.800 --> 2:57:10.320 Claus and the Elves, or Santa Claus and his wife 2:57:10.640 --> 2:57:13.320 at Santa Claus, you know, like if you just see 2:57:13.360 --> 2:57:16.480 Santa close by myself, it's not Christmas. It's like I 2:57:16.640 --> 2:57:19.080 want to see like the bag. The bag is a 2:57:19.200 --> 2:57:22.640 character too, And when I see both of them, for 2:57:22.760 --> 2:57:25.000 lack of a better term, I see Santa Clause, I 2:57:25.080 --> 2:57:28.160 see the Elves, I see the bags, the clocks, I 2:57:28.200 --> 2:57:31.880 see the sling. Like you know what I'm saying, Like me, 2:57:32.160 --> 2:57:36.720 like I'm always that. That was my first international new hit, 2:57:37.760 --> 2:57:40.480 and I was proud to and I remember, for what else, saying, 2:57:40.520 --> 2:57:42.160 no one listens to me. So that's what I remember. 2:57:42.400 --> 2:57:43.840 He's like, no one shots me out. That's why I 2:57:43.879 --> 2:57:45.960 wanted to put that in the n E. P t U. 2:57:46.200 --> 2:57:49.560 And he has to be like one of the best. 2:57:49.920 --> 2:57:54.560 And I just seen the fuation and you know that 2:57:54.760 --> 2:57:59.760 was that was you was their group, and it was like, 2:58:00.120 --> 2:58:01.920 that's what I'm saying. That's why I keep bringing up grinding. 2:58:01.959 --> 2:58:04.960 It's because for us, like I said, and I said 2:58:04.959 --> 2:58:07.200 it earlier for us to even go out there and 2:58:07.280 --> 2:58:10.320 see that this is a different world. We just thought, Okay, 2:58:10.360 --> 2:58:13.520 there's Virginia, but zoom zoom and the boom boom this 2:58:13.600 --> 2:58:17.080 girl's running around with and they're like, oh, these niggas 2:58:17.080 --> 2:58:23.600 is selling crack. Oh, this is why I think it 2:58:23.720 --> 2:58:31.800 so crazy. We too holy everywhere. And then even even 2:58:31.920 --> 2:58:34.360 even because he was coming from Newport Beach and we're 2:58:34.400 --> 2:58:36.600 just saying, okay, Newport Beach was like, all right, they 2:58:36.680 --> 2:58:39.800 gotta be something nice about that, and oh oh no 2:58:39.959 --> 2:58:48.039 Virginia Beach. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah from something terrible literally, yeah, 2:58:48.200 --> 2:58:51.880 but he's from something very terrible. But like you know, 2:58:52.440 --> 2:58:56.920 back yeah, it was bags of money, pit bulls rolling 2:58:56.959 --> 2:59:00.880 around the apartments type shit in his neighborhoods terrible, like 2:59:01.320 --> 2:59:04.960 listen for him to be who he is, like he 2:59:05.280 --> 2:59:08.640 made he made a definite choice to say I'm gonna 2:59:08.760 --> 2:59:14.720 be this guy, not that guy because he's from the gutter. Yeah, 2:59:14.959 --> 2:59:16.440 I've said it so bad. I don't even want to 2:59:16.480 --> 2:59:18.160 say that. What calling I mean, I love the name 2:59:18.240 --> 2:59:21.600 of beautiful people from there, but bro, yeah he's from it. 2:59:22.320 --> 2:59:25.920 Um really, remember I'm wolcome Toby. Yeah he's probably, but 2:59:26.000 --> 2:59:27.160 he does not want to be a part of it 2:59:27.280 --> 2:59:30.680 at all. And he made a record for me, and 2:59:30.720 --> 2:59:34.720 it's like thinking, stets up. I don't know if you 2:59:34.760 --> 2:59:37.720 remember this record. It's all the um it's one of 2:59:37.720 --> 2:59:41.320 the clones out okay, And he's just talking about gang banking. 2:59:41.879 --> 2:59:46.160 Remember what we're talking about, gag like like sts up? 2:59:48.720 --> 2:59:50.840 Remember walking looked at me and it was like, this 2:59:50.959 --> 2:59:56.280 is your fault gang banging. He doesn't want to talk 2:59:56.320 --> 2:59:57.960 one gang kid, He doesn't want to talk about no 2:59:58.160 --> 3:00:01.080 tough godship until you walk into I remember, I was 3:00:01.160 --> 3:00:03.640 just it would be so funny, man, you know, he 3:00:04.120 --> 3:00:10.720 he morphs into you know, whoever he's around. That's that's 3:00:10.840 --> 3:00:13.920 that's like Robley one of his best you know attributes. 3:00:14.000 --> 3:00:16.640 That's why when you say you tell a story or whatever, 3:00:16.680 --> 3:00:19.920 the kid like you know, super Thug is rambunctionous because 3:00:19.920 --> 3:00:22.199 that's how he sees you exactly. You know what I'm saying. 3:00:22.560 --> 3:00:24.840 At that time, that wouldn't be a good producer because 3:00:26.000 --> 3:00:30.280 a specific artist. Yeah, I always say, uh. The first 3:00:30.360 --> 3:00:34.720 time I was produced produced, for the first time I 3:00:34.840 --> 3:00:40.520 was really produced was Clark Kent. After of course that 3:00:40.600 --> 3:00:45.240 was produced produced. I've seen Clark records. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 3:00:45.920 --> 3:00:49.440 asked him, who do I need to I talked to 3:00:49.600 --> 3:00:54.600 Clark Kent. Yes, forgot it. That's that's crazy. I never 3:00:54.680 --> 3:00:58.640 knew you. Clark was the first person to actually because 3:00:58.840 --> 3:01:00.560 I knew how to rhyme, I knew the today I 3:01:00.600 --> 3:01:02.520 would I would, I would come into the studio with 3:01:02.600 --> 3:01:05.480 twenty four bars and thirty six bars and like, this 3:01:05.600 --> 3:01:09.120 doesn't make sense in the world. You have to structure 3:01:09.160 --> 3:01:11.640 this ship. So Clark was the first person to produce me. 3:01:12.160 --> 3:01:15.120 Then the first person to produced me but without giving 3:01:15.160 --> 3:01:18.640 me the was track masters. The first person would be like, yo, 3:01:18.720 --> 3:01:22.160 look here's how the intro to sound his desk, his 3:01:22.360 --> 3:01:24.200 dad all you gotta do is do your part here 3:01:24.280 --> 3:01:28.080 and that's it. That was like he gave me the 3:01:28.280 --> 3:01:33.120 keys to the fucking car. He gave me the vanilla 3:01:33.600 --> 3:01:39.840 tree to smell good. He came out. You know what 3:01:39.879 --> 3:01:47.160 I'm talking about the at the voice wagon jether. You 3:01:47.160 --> 3:01:48.400 know what I'm saying. All I had to do was 3:01:48.520 --> 3:01:51.640 just go in and just rhyme and then like you 3:01:51.720 --> 3:01:58.680 know what I mean, God noise boy. Before we get 3:01:58.840 --> 3:02:00.400 out of here, I want to speak about this y'all ofting, 3:02:00.440 --> 3:02:03.360 but I want to say something real quiz I've been 3:02:03.400 --> 3:02:06.840 on this dirty day, you know, uh, non drinking thing 3:02:07.000 --> 3:02:10.280 me shout out to thank you. I appreciate that, but 3:02:10.360 --> 3:02:13.600 it was because a couple of things. One thing is 3:02:13.840 --> 3:02:16.600 I'm never gonna ever, ever, ever, ever, ever drink before 3:02:16.600 --> 3:02:20.480 an episode. Again, I've already had that rule. I've already 3:02:20.560 --> 3:02:22.800 was supposed to do that. I can't blame being drinking 3:02:23.320 --> 3:02:26.880 on like, uh a problem with a professional drinker. The 3:02:26.959 --> 3:02:31.480 problem is sometimes I take or I use information, Like 3:02:31.560 --> 3:02:33.400 when I looked at the information and I look I 3:02:33.440 --> 3:02:36.720 actually cringed and I looked at the episode where I 3:02:36.760 --> 3:02:40.920 spoke about um, I've made it sound like eminemic gave 3:02:41.560 --> 3:02:47.520 automated like yoo, it's either you're gonna uh have fifty 3:02:47.560 --> 3:02:50.840 perform or I'm not gonna show up. And that was 3:02:50.920 --> 3:02:52.960 not it. What it was was I was being drunk. 3:02:53.000 --> 3:02:55.240 I was trying to like hype up the episode, and 3:02:55.400 --> 3:02:57.640 I was using words and I'm using it so I 3:02:57.720 --> 3:03:04.440 was trying to be relation converstion. That's crazy. My articulation 3:03:04.640 --> 3:03:07.360 was not articulation. So when I look back at it, 3:03:07.440 --> 3:03:14.400 there's no one called me. When I looked at it, 3:03:14.480 --> 3:03:15.880 I was like, that's not what I am, That's not 3:03:16.000 --> 3:03:19.920 what this show was about, and no way shape for 3:03:20.040 --> 3:03:22.480 my past. Was then that I heard it was an 3:03:22.520 --> 3:03:25.440 alter the native that uh think that? And then and 3:03:25.520 --> 3:03:27.520 me looking at fifty and how fifty you could look 3:03:27.520 --> 3:03:30.480 at it too, I'm looking like, okay, you know, as 3:03:30.520 --> 3:03:32.080 much as fifty has done in his life, for me 3:03:32.200 --> 3:03:35.240 to say that, I understand how he could have took 3:03:35.280 --> 3:03:37.320 that the wrong way. I gotta stand how Jacob took 3:03:37.360 --> 3:03:38.720 that the wrong way. I can understand how I am 3:03:38.760 --> 3:03:42.120 going took that. Even me using the ference the white boy, 3:03:42.400 --> 3:03:44.040 I just didn't like that. I looked at it and 3:03:44.120 --> 3:03:46.280 I crin. You know, some of my closest friends are 3:03:46.360 --> 3:03:48.720 right and I just didn't like the way I said it. 3:03:49.040 --> 3:03:52.280 So for anybody who saw this footage, and you can 3:03:52.400 --> 3:03:55.039 clearly see I'm slappy, but that's not that's not the excuse. 3:03:55.120 --> 3:03:57.760 I do this for a living. So this was my fault. 3:03:58.320 --> 3:04:00.160 I'm clearly was in the wrong. I clearly the way 3:04:00.200 --> 3:04:02.920 I worded things, and clearly saying certain certain things that 3:04:02.959 --> 3:04:05.320 I might be mining set period. I would like to 3:04:05.440 --> 3:04:07.720 you know, you're talking about the Snoop episode. A Snoop episode, 3:04:07.840 --> 3:04:11.720 you should say you did drink before the episode hopefull 3:04:12.240 --> 3:04:14.600 all the way to the West coast y. And that's so. 3:04:15.000 --> 3:04:17.400 And there's only two episodes in this whole time that 3:04:17.520 --> 3:04:20.160 I've looked at and I've cringed, and I'm gonna tell 3:04:20.160 --> 3:04:21.760 you the other episode. You know, don't look at them. 3:04:21.800 --> 3:04:23.440 I don't look at none of these episodes. I gotta 3:04:24.680 --> 3:04:28.280 beat nuts. That's not a beat Nuts episode. Beat Nuts 3:04:28.320 --> 3:04:30.920 deserves to come back. Nuts to drink. They need a 3:04:31.000 --> 3:04:33.480 real drink chance because that and I try to stop 3:04:33.520 --> 3:04:35.400 that drink chance and you're drunk as won't let me 3:04:35.440 --> 3:04:42.400 stop it. Damn now, everyone everyone on everyone else want 3:04:42.440 --> 3:04:50.040 to say, no, you bull I don't take something anything. Yeah, said, 3:04:50.520 --> 3:04:53.360 so you know again and again that you know I'm 3:04:53.440 --> 3:04:56.240 I'm dealing with real, big names and real so there 3:04:56.280 --> 3:05:01.199 were so many you know, uh, you know, different opinion. 3:05:01.280 --> 3:05:04.000 Don't pick yourself up. I just want to straighten now. 3:05:04.200 --> 3:05:05.920 I just want to straighten now. Now, let's just let's 3:05:05.959 --> 3:05:09.720 be clear. I want to get this one story straight. Now. 3:05:10.240 --> 3:05:12.920 Justin timber Lake might be mad at me for this, okay, don't. 3:05:13.280 --> 3:05:17.000 This is another one of those times Parrell came on here, 3:05:17.280 --> 3:05:19.840 sat on the same chier you got, and Parrell said 3:05:19.879 --> 3:05:22.760 he stopped He had stopped working with Justin timber Lake 3:05:22.959 --> 3:05:25.200 because at the time just Timberlake was on job. You 3:05:25.280 --> 3:05:29.520 guys have beef a job, and respectfully, he didn't want 3:05:29.560 --> 3:05:35.320 to continue that relationship. I dropped it for episode. Two 3:05:35.400 --> 3:05:39.000 weeks later, I've seen Justin Timberlake in Carbones to the 3:05:39.040 --> 3:05:42.520 Timberlake comes up to me. He taps me on whether 3:05:42.520 --> 3:05:46.760 I believe it's my shoulder or or might have been. 3:05:46.840 --> 3:05:48.600 He might give me a little over. He gave me 3:05:48.640 --> 3:05:51.880 any times you might, he said. He said that that 3:05:52.720 --> 3:05:56.760 that story is not exactly true. So I go, okay, 3:05:57.480 --> 3:06:00.920 and I come on here and I'll say exactly what 3:06:01.000 --> 3:06:03.720 he says to me, the story is not exactly true. 3:06:03.840 --> 3:06:08.400 And then because great he was to say that. So 3:06:08.600 --> 3:06:13.040 I want to hear from you. Yeah, because you guys 3:06:13.120 --> 3:06:19.680 had a great relationship, uh, to my Pharrell, Justine, everybody, everybody. 3:06:19.760 --> 3:06:22.440 And then this, this discrepancy happens with Job. What was 3:06:22.480 --> 3:06:24.840 your stance on that? Yes, as far as as far 3:06:24.920 --> 3:06:29.119 as I knew, Um, as far as I knew, Pharrell 3:06:30.480 --> 3:06:34.600 the Neptunes did not work on that album and Justin 3:06:34.680 --> 3:06:39.760 had to go work with Tim on that. Yes, because um, 3:06:41.160 --> 3:06:43.440 because Job would not let the clips out of their deal. 3:06:44.240 --> 3:06:46.280 I don't know any other story. I mean I wouldn't 3:06:46.280 --> 3:06:50.880 even what possibly would be the story. I mean, what 3:06:51.520 --> 3:06:54.640 what what? What? What? What? What? Was untrue? But oh, 3:06:54.680 --> 3:06:56.640 I don't know. I never got you never explained. I 3:06:56.720 --> 3:07:00.200 thought you could know it was true. But it's true 3:07:00.240 --> 3:07:02.280 that Pharrell did not want to work on the album 3:07:02.360 --> 3:07:04.880 because of well yeah, I mean no, no, it was like, no, 3:07:06.400 --> 3:07:10.000 Pharrell wanted to work on the album. He did not 3:07:10.240 --> 3:07:12.160 work on it. He chose not to work on the 3:07:12.240 --> 3:07:15.320 album because you know, he felt like Job was holding 3:07:15.400 --> 3:07:18.400 us hostage and he felt like he had done a 3:07:18.560 --> 3:07:23.560 lot for He's done a lot for job. Yeah, for 3:07:23.879 --> 3:07:28.200 for them not to you know, give him what he 3:07:28.320 --> 3:07:31.480 felt was his group back. I mean, that's your theoretical question. 3:07:32.200 --> 3:07:34.880 He has his bills, You have your bills. What happened 3:07:34.879 --> 3:07:37.240 if Farrell would have done that? And I would have 3:07:37.320 --> 3:07:40.760 done what if Crime River was Farrell but production as 3:07:40.760 --> 3:07:43.360 opposed to Diminlin production, and you guys was in what 3:07:43.959 --> 3:07:46.520 we call purgatory somewhat. Would you would have took it 3:07:46.560 --> 3:07:49.360 personal with Forrell? Or you would have because you didn't 3:07:49.400 --> 3:07:52.640 take it personal? No, no, you know what and I didn't. 3:07:53.600 --> 3:07:56.640 That was it wasn't even like it was a thing. No, 3:07:56.800 --> 3:07:58.680 I know, I wouldn't have taken a personal number one, 3:07:59.280 --> 3:08:04.600 but that was that was that was for real on 3:08:06.600 --> 3:08:10.400 Yeah that lord, So so you know you want to 3:08:10.440 --> 3:08:13.680 so you understand why I'd be like, you know, I 3:08:13.800 --> 3:08:17.160 can look twice when when it don't feel like that, 3:08:17.600 --> 3:08:19.800 but like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like 3:08:19.959 --> 3:08:23.080 because he's been consistent for sure, like he listened, he 3:08:23.240 --> 3:08:25.520 really he stood on that too, and that would have 3:08:25.600 --> 3:08:28.120 been a big record for I feel like everything the 3:08:28.200 --> 3:08:31.920 Neptunes did was big for everybody who was affiliated, meaning us, 3:08:32.240 --> 3:08:34.520 And let's just keep it real. That's probably turned out 3:08:34.600 --> 3:08:40.080 millions of dollars to stand by, I'm just calculated on 3:08:40.200 --> 3:08:42.320 tow of millions of dollars. I don't feel for No, 3:08:42.840 --> 3:08:44.800 I don't feel because they lost a couple of bucks. 3:08:45.080 --> 3:08:48.119 You don't feel for millions and millions. He got tweeny. 3:08:48.240 --> 3:08:57.000 But I was just sitting here and what I'm saying right, well, 3:08:57.080 --> 3:09:01.600 he did that again. He did it again. Something hell 3:09:01.800 --> 3:09:04.680 you with Justin? Um y'all worked it out after no, no, no, no, 3:09:04.840 --> 3:09:07.960 we there There was never no issue like it was 3:09:08.240 --> 3:09:13.080 literally I didn't I don't even think Pharrell and Justin 3:09:13.200 --> 3:09:17.320 had an issue. It was just it was label ship 3:09:17.440 --> 3:09:20.760 was the head of the label and Pharrell, but I 3:09:20.800 --> 3:09:23.160 didn't think it was a thing. And then then listen 3:09:23.200 --> 3:09:27.240 and even since then, even since then, that was that 3:09:27.360 --> 3:09:29.120 was Verry White at the time. Since then, it's like 3:09:29.240 --> 3:09:33.160 all it's all cool, like it's all up honestly, Like 3:09:33.680 --> 3:09:36.760 I see Barry. I talked to Barry. Everything is fine. 3:09:37.840 --> 3:09:40.440 And it was business too, like you know, like the 3:09:40.480 --> 3:09:42.680 same way I can see and speak about lawyers and 3:09:42.760 --> 3:09:45.760 contract everybody. I gotta you know, I eat that too 3:09:46.480 --> 3:09:52.440 for sure. For sure. Who go against who neptunes to 3:09:52.480 --> 3:10:01.160 go against and versus oh, everybody, they go against everybody, Yeah, everybody. 3:10:03.879 --> 3:10:07.400 I think I think they're gonna he's gonna win against Scott. 3:10:08.640 --> 3:10:12.560 They're gonna win against Scott. No, they're gonna win against Scott, 3:10:13.600 --> 3:10:19.360 he says the only person. Neptunes versus Vetrol woman. No, 3:10:20.680 --> 3:10:22.280 I don't think you can. I mean, I think, I 3:10:23.240 --> 3:10:25.520 mean I would if I'm if we're gonna talk with Neptunes, 3:10:25.560 --> 3:10:28.920 I'm gonna just stay with Legacy, you know what I'm saying. 3:10:29.040 --> 3:10:34.720 Like timber Damn, right, I think Neptunes and Timberland would 3:10:34.720 --> 3:10:38.160 be awesome. That's gonna be fire. I think so too, 3:10:38.480 --> 3:10:44.000 that'd be fire. Yeah, okay, well listen, I'm gonna tell you. 3:10:44.360 --> 3:10:47.640 I mean, and this, of course it doesn't matter, but um, 3:10:48.800 --> 3:10:52.680 it don't matter. But there was one time I believe 3:10:53.480 --> 3:10:57.680 the Neptunes on fort of the charts and Timberland on 3:10:59.280 --> 3:11:02.440 the other for they you know, something close within that 3:11:02.760 --> 3:11:07.720 range exactly. So I mean, I don't know if I 3:11:07.800 --> 3:11:09.320 don't know if they win, I mean, I don't know 3:11:09.360 --> 3:11:14.000 who would necessarily win, because it's not all about hits. 3:11:14.200 --> 3:11:17.400 If you notice that, it ain't about it's about cultural moments. 3:11:18.280 --> 3:11:21.120 So um, you know, I think that'd be good. I 3:11:21.160 --> 3:11:27.200 mean it'd be good Timberland against that'd be great. But 3:11:27.280 --> 3:11:30.080 I think they can go against any then. I don't 3:11:30.120 --> 3:11:39.080 believe they're getting blown out by nobody. Blown out. No, no, no, no, 3:11:39.200 --> 3:11:42.160 They're not getting blown out by nobody. It's gonna be 3:11:42.200 --> 3:11:43.600 a fight. It's gonna be a fight with all of 3:11:43.640 --> 3:11:48.480 the best you want to name whoever. Yeah, yeah, I 3:11:48.480 --> 3:11:50.080 don't think. I don't think there's a lot of people. 3:11:51.080 --> 3:11:54.440 Hell no, not you made the Prix. Sorry I heard 3:11:54.480 --> 3:12:00.280 this speak of ice cream is great? Um ship. I 3:12:00.320 --> 3:12:02.480 mean Jamaine Hill too, though, Like it's like he got 3:12:02.560 --> 3:12:08.920 a lot he catalog, But I don't know if the catalog. 3:12:09.320 --> 3:12:12.480 You know again, it's hits. It's hiss, hiss his not 3:12:12.640 --> 3:12:15.720 all them ships be cultural. You know what I'm saying. 3:12:16.920 --> 3:12:19.160 You've seen that ship like you've seen it. You've seen 3:12:19.480 --> 3:12:25.760 Kiss mix tape you down beat you down like you 3:12:25.879 --> 3:12:29.400 know that ain't billboard nothing, don't talk no charts millions. 3:12:30.080 --> 3:12:32.560 You could have put any million selling record against Kiss 3:12:32.600 --> 3:12:35.480 whenever you wanted to. When he did, who shot your freestyle? 3:12:36.320 --> 3:12:40.800 Call case closed? Curtains is over? So you know, if 3:12:40.879 --> 3:12:43.240 if you gotta look at you gotta look at versus 3:12:43.440 --> 3:12:48.040 really like that, Like versus is way more cultural than 3:12:48.120 --> 3:12:51.840 it is hits. To me, your battle to cay on versus, 3:12:52.400 --> 3:13:00.320 who would I want? I'm not doing it. Let's just 3:13:00.840 --> 3:13:09.560 just what I did about Kanye shut and I heard 3:13:09.600 --> 3:13:20.680 that's crazy too, crazy live stepping there. He's still mad 3:13:20.720 --> 3:13:23.040 at that Kanye. So he's stepping in all the way up. 3:13:24.240 --> 3:13:28.520 Every verse tis right now. I'm just telling you it's 3:13:28.640 --> 3:13:33.720 a million percent. He's gonna make sure you, like I 3:13:33.879 --> 3:13:38.720 respect that, YO, push your man. Let me just say something, man, 3:13:38.800 --> 3:13:42.840 you're definitely a legend. Thank you a person. I appreciate 3:13:42.920 --> 3:13:46.920 your person. Um, you know, you're a real person. You're 3:13:46.920 --> 3:13:51.120 a good person. But besides all that, um, that's a 3:13:51.440 --> 3:13:55.280 personal level. But you are one of the last of 3:13:55.400 --> 3:13:58.240 a dying breed, one of the last people that I know. 3:13:58.320 --> 3:14:00.760 You said that it doesn't matter about the beat, but 3:14:01.000 --> 3:14:05.400 it's it's for people like you and like nas. It's 3:14:05.440 --> 3:14:08.880 like it's always like sixties sevent of your lyrics first, 3:14:09.400 --> 3:14:12.640 because your lyrics, it's just it's just something that where 3:14:12.760 --> 3:14:14.880 we want to hear what you're gonna say first, then 3:14:15.000 --> 3:14:17.120 we say, okay to be this dope too. You know 3:14:17.160 --> 3:14:19.320 what I'm saying, and for you to you know what 3:14:19.360 --> 3:14:23.440 I mean, because they called they they call that dinosaurs 3:14:24.080 --> 3:14:26.320 they called and for us to be but I'd say, 3:14:26.400 --> 3:14:33.080 you're inspiring a new breed, to be honest. They want 3:14:33.120 --> 3:14:37.400 to say, you know, yeah, but bro, that's that, that 3:14:37.680 --> 3:14:41.000 is the that is the foundation of this ship. This, 3:14:41.800 --> 3:14:46.480 this takes, this takes a skill set. Then can't nobody 3:14:46.600 --> 3:14:49.280 take that from me. I don't care how young, how old, 3:14:49.600 --> 3:14:54.680 I'm smoking everything until I'm tied, when I stopped competing 3:14:54.720 --> 3:14:57.800 and I've done, I'm cool. I ain't gonna just exist 3:14:57.879 --> 3:15:01.800 in this ship either. You know what I'm saying. But nah, bro, yeah, 3:15:01.840 --> 3:15:03.440 so so let me just keep you with your flowers. 3:15:03.520 --> 3:15:05.400 So I don't letting you know, man, we're proud of you. 3:15:05.480 --> 3:15:08.400 On this side of generation are people the people that 3:15:08.600 --> 3:15:11.920 really respect real hip hop, really respect you know, the 3:15:12.080 --> 3:15:15.640 content and and and I think about his twelve records 3:15:16.879 --> 3:15:20.200 these albums is ninety records right now now by me, 3:15:21.320 --> 3:15:26.600 you just all classic albums were ten twelve, I think 3:15:26.640 --> 3:15:30.680 it was eight or something like that. Not like so 3:15:31.840 --> 3:15:34.440 you even did it that right? Like short and sweet, 3:15:34.480 --> 3:15:38.480 look straight, look, everything is is dope. We respect you 3:15:38.600 --> 3:15:41.199 we appreciate you. We want to thank you to your phrase, 3:15:41.240 --> 3:15:43.200 to give your flowers to your face, you know what 3:15:43.280 --> 3:15:45.720 I mean. And we got a number love for you 3:15:48.879 --> 3:15:50.840 before we get about here. Anything you want to say, 3:15:50.920 --> 3:15:54.720 anything you got coming on and um you know, just 3:15:54.920 --> 3:15:59.119 everybody go get that album is almost dry. I appreciate 3:15:59.240 --> 3:16:03.880 all the loving sport, um man, it's almost dry. Tour 3:16:04.120 --> 3:16:07.160 starting May twenty nine. Come check me out all over 3:16:07.240 --> 3:16:12.360 the country, um man, all the festivals. I'm gonna be there, 3:16:13.280 --> 3:16:17.560 coming to a city near you. Street hip hop list forever, 3:16:18.160 --> 3:16:25.680 sniff goddam. I listen to ask questions, how do you 3:16:25.720 --> 3:16:27.200 get on the bliss of YAO list? I want to 3:16:27.200 --> 3:16:39.080 be on the because listen, listen on just they just 3:16:39.879 --> 3:16:42.240 just invited me to the show and say they're gonna 3:16:42.360 --> 3:16:45.039 dress me and all that. So if we're the same size, 3:16:45.080 --> 3:16:56.800 I'm gonna throw you a little just today, like I'm 3:16:56.879 --> 3:17:00.080 trying to keep up. I'm like, I ain't biging in me. 3:17:00.680 --> 3:17:02.920 Oh my god, mysing, but I need I need to 3:17:02.959 --> 3:17:09.039 put your tash yes phars because it's be crazy likes. 3:17:09.080 --> 3:17:13.760 Listen all here listen. I'm like it's the number of 3:17:14.040 --> 3:17:16.000 podcast you know that girl and let me see it. 3:17:16.959 --> 3:17:21.440 Talk camera, talking cameras. Let me just tell you something. No, no, no, 3:17:21.480 --> 3:17:23.360 I want this camera. I want to I don't let 3:17:23.400 --> 3:17:26.720 me as a side. Let me tell you something. Are 3:17:26.720 --> 3:17:30.160 you seeing your friends and family um list? It's full 3:17:30.200 --> 3:17:33.160 of franks. You don't want Frank's and you're fully your 3:17:33.200 --> 3:17:35.480 friends and family list. This is a good guy over here. 3:17:36.600 --> 3:17:38.360 I'm a great guy. I need the easy, I need 3:17:38.440 --> 3:17:41.560 to put your DS, I need to to stand Smith's 3:17:42.680 --> 3:17:46.320 and I need um um, the phararelse, Holy mode, guacamole. 3:17:51.240 --> 3:17:59.560 Thank you, thanks for joining us for another episode to 3:17:59.640 --> 3:18:02.160 Drink Hands hosted by yours truly, d J e f 3:18:02.360 --> 3:18:04.440 N and n O r E. Please make sure to 3:18:04.480 --> 3:18:07.039 follow us on all our socials. 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