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Speaker 1: when we introducing this next guest, he has he has
Speaker 1: been sipping from the fountain and of youth for about
Speaker 1: twenty something years. He's not aged at all. It's the
Speaker 1: same his bar level. It's has increased and increased and increased.
Speaker 1: It's not to say that he's selling more drugs, but
Speaker 1: the has been. If there's something called rap steroids, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure he invented it better and better. With time,
Speaker 1: he's been able to fulfill the dream that I always
Speaker 1: wanted to do. I always wanted to have for Rell
Speaker 1: and Swiss Beats produced the whole album, but he got someone.
Speaker 1: He got Forrell and Kanye, something I never even thought of.
Speaker 1: I mean, this album is really really like fine Wine.
Speaker 1: I mean, he comes from my era. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to critique it. I wanted to find the flaws in it.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like, well, you ain't do this, this, this,
Speaker 1: or you ain't do that. It's not there. It's not there. People.
Speaker 1: I try to analyze it. I try to analyze the something,
Speaker 1: and it's not there. This album is excellent. So then
Speaker 1: when you hear the the man who represents black excellence, Dad,
Speaker 1: he comes on and trust me, if he ain't getting
Speaker 1: paid here on promotion, we've tried, and he gets on
Speaker 1: there and says, this is the album, this is it.
Speaker 1: We're not playing around out here. This man has been
Speaker 1: able to maintain the level of what is this relevancy
Speaker 1: in different errors without being old. It's crazy. From cash
Speaker 1: Doll to whoever he could work with, to Kendrick he
Speaker 1: could work with and stand the test of time. In
Speaker 1: case you don't know who the I'm talking about, he
Speaker 1: told about the one the motherfucking only push your motherfure.
Speaker 1: I can't lie to you push up. I really did
Speaker 1: look at the album and I wanted to do it,
Speaker 1: not as a friend, I don't want to say as
Speaker 1: a journalist, but yeah, let's say that I wanted to
Speaker 1: look at it with so well I could be like, man,
Speaker 1: he's and it was one of the things I did.
Speaker 1: And then it shut me up. I said, damn, he
Speaker 1: ain't got no radio record. And then the little Uzy
Speaker 1: bird came in and just smapped me. Got the funk
Speaker 1: up North? How do you maintain that? Because this is
Speaker 1: it's hard, bro, and especially getting money. The more money
Speaker 1: we get, the hunger goes away. That's true. So I mean, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't been hungry a long time. None of you
Speaker 1: made that hunk on that mic level. Man, I'm I've
Speaker 1: made it my business. Two. First of all, I only
Speaker 1: know how to wrap one way. I only know lyric
Speaker 1: driven metaphors, wrap, street wrap. That's it, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with. I know if I step outside of that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look like a clown. That's just not That's
Speaker 1: not me. Um, you know, but I only know how
Speaker 1: to do it one way. So I've made it my
Speaker 1: business to make sure lyrically it stays up, you know,
Speaker 1: it can stand up against whatever is popular out there
Speaker 1: as well. Like that's how I attack it. I listen
Speaker 1: to everything that's going on musically. Actually yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: like her, but but you know, um, I listen to
Speaker 1: all the all the young, all the young, all of
Speaker 1: young music, and and listening to it while I'm writing,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely thinking like, man, how how can these flows?
Speaker 1: How can these bounces? How can the things that I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, still relate to them still relate to them?
Speaker 1: And and they get it or they just respected It's
Speaker 1: not you know, it's like the same way. I can't
Speaker 1: do what they do. I'm pretty sure they can't do
Speaker 1: what I do either, But we gotta respect each other's craft.
Speaker 1: And that's how I attack it. Because there was something
Speaker 1: like I've seen the Colorade video on YEA. It was
Speaker 1: something that Charlotte Magne said that really hit me. He said, Um,
Speaker 1: one thing you can never really like praise too much
Speaker 1: is youth because if you're really good, your youth goes
Speaker 1: like don't get don't get the Twitter. You could be
Speaker 1: young forever, like you'll be young forever. But is that
Speaker 1: something that you you pride you probade yourself on is
Speaker 1: because you know the longevity, Like we didn't coming up.
Speaker 1: We didn't realize Damn que Tip. This is you know,
Speaker 1: praising que We didn't realize that they're here fifteen years
Speaker 1: realized and we didn't us how hard that was. If
Speaker 1: that's something that you you you meditated and thought about,
Speaker 1: or is that something that just came out, Well, it's
Speaker 1: been it's been a it's been part of my race.
Speaker 1: I put this, This has been in my plan. This
Speaker 1: has been a part of my race. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: when I think about all the greats that I ever loved,
Speaker 1: everybody who was like popping there, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody I tried to young, trying to dress like and
Speaker 1: put on clothes like cume my eyebrows and everything I
Speaker 1: was I did right of course, of course, when I
Speaker 1: think about it, they only had three joints, three albums,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe five if you look at the basics between
Speaker 1: Came and Caress and kind of realized like Damn Kine
Speaker 1: only probably had three albums, Like maybe maybe whose fault
Speaker 1: you think that would be? There's as an artist or
Speaker 1: the industry at the time. Now I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's UM, well, this is this is my theory
Speaker 1: on that. Um. I'm gonna say it's their fault artistically. UM,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say this, the error in which they
Speaker 1: came up and was so good. It was the Golden Age,
Speaker 1: the golden error, the greatest music. Still think about it.
Speaker 1: We're still taking fashion cues from them, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We still it's still all from them. So
Speaker 1: when everything that came after them versus embracing it, I
Speaker 1: feel like they were more like, yeah, but it ain't
Speaker 1: like what we did, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: ain't like how we was rocking. And I feel like that,
Speaker 1: you know, when you have that that mentality and that
Speaker 1: energy you um, it sort of ages you out and
Speaker 1: and it and it stifles, it stifles the progression of
Speaker 1: what you could be doing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think and in all honesty, I think that, Um,
Speaker 1: I want to say that from from before that era
Speaker 1: or from that era, I want to say Hove is
Speaker 1: probably the only one who did more reaching out or
Speaker 1: or or your rock with whether it was you know,
Speaker 1: internally with the young Philly dudes and on rock, versus
Speaker 1: doing the features with whoever you you know, YouTube are
Speaker 1: maintaining that level of legends, legendary news that younger more
Speaker 1: competing with it, competing with it, doesn't put it. That's
Speaker 1: very hard, Yeah, because when they're calling you a legend
Speaker 1: or they're calling your o G, they're also calling you,
Speaker 1: oh sure, and what's wrong with that? What's wrong with no?
Speaker 1: No? No No no. But when there's nothing wrong with the way,
Speaker 1: but the youth looks at that as a crush. That
Speaker 1: doesn't look at that as as as a shield. They
Speaker 1: don't look at that as a sward. They look at
Speaker 1: it as a handicap almost like like if you look
Speaker 1: at the interview, like with Corn, the way she's dropping
Speaker 1: out how much she can't understand why charlottage and keeps
Speaker 1: bringing up push your ded She's like, well, how old
Speaker 1: is he is? Like like, know, he's forty, and forty
Speaker 1: is like great to if you're twenty years old, and
Speaker 1: I cooration big up up, but yeah I like that
Speaker 1: to um big upray and todging all of them and
Speaker 1: and and and the pops to everybody. But what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is forty seems so old to us,
Speaker 1: and now that we're forty it's like, oh, we're still young,
Speaker 1: but they don't get that right. And I think I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, I think that the way that
Speaker 1: my fan base has has grown, I feel like I
Speaker 1: got Day one fans and I also pick up new ones.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that comes from that comes from
Speaker 1: outside of music too, that comes from like the fashion
Speaker 1: aspect or the just or just even sonically, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's it's you know, like the
Speaker 1: cool kids. The cool kids still love to decipher the
Speaker 1: lyrics and and and and they want to be put
Speaker 1: on too, like oh, what's that branding talking about? Because
Speaker 1: they want to go outside and be like, oh I
Speaker 1: got this, you ain't got this, you ain't on it.
Speaker 1: So as long as you still playing those games, it
Speaker 1: sort of helps. I won't lie to you. I listened
Speaker 1: to the Little Oozy Bird song, and I did not
Speaker 1: know I was a Little Oozy Bird fan. I did
Speaker 1: not know that because I went and I took that.
Speaker 1: I went on and I wanted to to to see
Speaker 1: all these other songs that Little Ouzy Bird is on,
Speaker 1: and it was so many songs that I was familiar.
Speaker 1: I just didn't identify that that was a little Uzy.
Speaker 1: Was he special? It was he special because what people
Speaker 1: don't know is Ouzy, it was he's Philly. He's a rapper.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, He didn't just unlocked
Speaker 1: his creativity on some like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: don't play you know what I'm saying, Like slightly had
Speaker 1: a diamond him space. He deserves it. But you know
Speaker 1: and and and you know, so he still he But
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know is he really has
Speaker 1: the skill set. And when you hear the verse and
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh no, he got a real skill set.
Speaker 1: We're listening to Neon Guts with him and Farrell, It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh hell no, he really rapped. He doing what he
Speaker 1: want to do. How yeah, it's big blue versus not
Speaker 1: look over that. But how crazy? How many great hairs
Speaker 1: that you get trying to get Kanye and Farrell in
Speaker 1: the studio at the same time. Oh I didn't even
Speaker 1: not even once, not even once. I um, you know,
Speaker 1: I really so. How I started the whole process of
Speaker 1: even making the album was like I had like a
Speaker 1: I had a record. I had one record from from
Speaker 1: YEA and that was hearing me clearly right, yeah, So
Speaker 1: I took. I took it was one verse, so I
Speaker 1: took hear me clearly down in Miami. I came down
Speaker 1: here and I was just like, yeah, man, I'm ready
Speaker 1: to start. I said me, and you cooked up something
Speaker 1: the other day and it just got me going. And
Speaker 1: he was like, let me hear it for I was like,
Speaker 1: let me hear it. So I played it and he
Speaker 1: was like he shrugged on me. Yeah, you want to
Speaker 1: hear me clearly right, And he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I I love Cocky forever. Listen, listen, but don't
Speaker 1: nobody know that me? Like he like yo, he like, um,
Speaker 1: I mean it's all right, but I mean you like you.
Speaker 1: I mean you wanta be in a mixtape? You wanna
Speaker 1: make a mixtape? How many mixtapes you want to make?
Speaker 1: How many mixtapes you want to make? It? So I
Speaker 1: was like, you know at the time, so I'm like damn,
Speaker 1: like you know and mind you were just talking. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: like you know, for you to go to the next level,
Speaker 1: you gotta become a character out here, like, bro, how
Speaker 1: many Hot six teams? Bro, I'm tired of the Hot
Speaker 1: six team And and Bros, I'm talking about it's punching me.
Speaker 1: Every every word he's saying, it's punching me, punching me right,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, it's to my face. And I'm
Speaker 1: like and I'm you know, I'm just thinking. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: them thinking, I'm thinking back. I'm like, man, I used
Speaker 1: to like, you know, you got on like I used
Speaker 1: to get in your huge gs. We used to ride
Speaker 1: the Norfic State, go pick up these same mixtapes you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Ride the whole day. You know, we know
Speaker 1: the whole verse from north the Virginia Beach and back.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, you know what, I'm just thinking
Speaker 1: to myself like damn, like is we not? Is we
Speaker 1: not where we're at? Like you know? And he was
Speaker 1: then I just got, you know, I just I just listen.
Speaker 1: I just listened and just let him keep going. And
Speaker 1: I realized, man, like he's just at a place where
Speaker 1: that man tries to knock everything out the park everything,
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. And and I don't
Speaker 1: even think we made music. That's how that's how the
Speaker 1: conversation was so ill to me. I don't think we
Speaker 1: made music that day. I think we just talked it
Speaker 1: out and and I had to like just process it
Speaker 1: and like you know, and you know, we might have
Speaker 1: had just had the rest of the day kicked in,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. But I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think we did nothing that day, nothing with the with
Speaker 1: the intentions on coming into like yo, let's let's get busy.
Speaker 1: And you know, I had, um it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was in the pandemic or whatever. So usually every morning,
Speaker 1: every morning, me and him a talk six in the morning,
Speaker 1: you know, six. He's definitely the early guy, early guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're early, so um being I was, I was standing
Speaker 1: at this crib during this time. We would just get up.
Speaker 1: We just get up at six. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, we're both up, we're both fresh. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: let's come in when we're fresh, and let's just um,
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let's just start working. And so
Speaker 1: then that's when the actual process started, like a day later,
Speaker 1: and we're just being the studio working get up early,
Speaker 1: because you're working together since you since y'all was in
Speaker 1: Virginia broke nothing, so not rapping, not rapping, I was,
Speaker 1: We've been working together since we were hanging out. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even rapping. He came to me one day on
Speaker 1: some like he came to me like, Yo, your brother
Speaker 1: is Gene. He'd rapping his dude, I know you were
Speaker 1: kidding me. Got a lot and I'm like, oh, real, Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, you can't work with him. He
Speaker 1: worked with Tim, can't. I just wanted like yeah, And
Speaker 1: he was, you know he was at that time. But
Speaker 1: Timberland and my brother they all went to junior high
Speaker 1: school together and Timerland was the DJ for all of
Speaker 1: the everybody who rapped, and he knew my brother from
Speaker 1: being down the beach and rapping amongst all of them
Speaker 1: guys and didn't know that that was my brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so um, you know when he found out that, he
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, you know, time goes on Tim,
Speaker 1: Tim you know, got his foot in the career, his
Speaker 1: foot in the door first and went to Jersey left
Speaker 1: Vier went to Jersey Joe to see all of that,
Speaker 1: And that opened the door. Teddy came down. He came down,
Speaker 1: and that opened the door for for my brother and
Speaker 1: Chad to connect well before again well before I was right,
Speaker 1: So the wait, But how much did that conversation you
Speaker 1: guys have set the foundation or momentum for when you
Speaker 1: started working on the music. Um, it was. It was
Speaker 1: totally the foundation. It was everything. It was like once
Speaker 1: he said that one thing, one thing I said about
Speaker 1: even working with him and Yea during this process was
Speaker 1: I was gonna listen, like I was gonna follow direction. Um.
Speaker 1: I came into this game always knowing how much production,
Speaker 1: the marriage between the lyrics and production made, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, made the magic. I never thought I
Speaker 1: wrapped so good that you know, I could just wrap
Speaker 1: over anything. All of my favorites got a very bad
Speaker 1: album somewhere because they think they can just rap over anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I always peep there,
Speaker 1: you know, and and and I was like okay, and
Speaker 1: I always understood that. I always understood that. And and
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me was to make this better
Speaker 1: than Daytona. Like I was like, man, how can I
Speaker 1: make uh? But yeah, you know that, My biggest thing
Speaker 1: was to make it better than Daytona. And um but
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: like just listen to them and see. Like I really
Speaker 1: wanted to be produced because I felt like that was
Speaker 1: one thing about Daytona. I just rapped. I just rapped over.
Speaker 1: We was fast tracking it. It was going. I was,
Speaker 1: I was gonna. I stayed in there with you so
Speaker 1: I could get the hardest beats when everybody else would
Speaker 1: leave and whatever. I was like, nah or just so
Speaker 1: he wouldn't steal him for himself. I stayed and I
Speaker 1: took him and I was like, you know after that,
Speaker 1: you know, he was working on five albums at that
Speaker 1: particular time. Music everybody Tiana kids. He was right, which,
Speaker 1: we'll never get another one. We'll never get another one
Speaker 1: per per cutting. So I like me too. So um
Speaker 1: so I was fast tracking and you know, just writing
Speaker 1: boom woman, trying to get it done and I and
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was produced. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I know, I know at least that's
Speaker 1: one bar I can check off. Yes, So I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I know that's one bar I could check off if
Speaker 1: I just let them produce me while we got this time.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody rushing, it's the pandemic, ain't nothing going on.
Speaker 1: So you know, that was the first That was the
Speaker 1: first thing. So I said, man, I'm gonna listen, and
Speaker 1: you know, and Farrell. Farrell made it very clear. He
Speaker 1: was like, listen, man, if we're gonna do this, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna do flows, We're gonna do cadences. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that hooks is sticky. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: sure that the B courses and stick I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like you like resemblance sle Greg everything we need
Speaker 1: to be addressed. Was that done on purpose? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: was the hardest record. That was the hardest record. So
Speaker 1: the record, the record was written right, I executed it
Speaker 1: bom womb, like you know what I'm saying. Farrell, come
Speaker 1: in here it and he's like, man, that ship ain't
Speaker 1: He's like that, you're still rapping meds. You ain't embodying nothing.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna I'm like, now, mind you. By the
Speaker 1: time I even tell him to come in and listen,
Speaker 1: it's because I'm married. I'm happy, I'm good. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm married to what I've been done. You're proud. He
Speaker 1: come and tear a whole man, He tell a whole
Speaker 1: chalkboard off the wall. No, it's not it. You ain't.
Speaker 1: You ain't enough of a character. You ain't enough of
Speaker 1: a character. And by this time, this is when we
Speaker 1: sort of started the exercise of like we will play
Speaker 1: the Joker every day because well, the first we're just
Speaker 1: watching it. He was like, man, you know you're talking
Speaker 1: about characterist and that then he gets into like yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're like yo, were like um, He's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you need to um you need to
Speaker 1: be more on character. Man. He's like, man, this is you.
Speaker 1: Look at you. You you laugh just like them You
Speaker 1: you laughing. J ain'ts supposed to laugh at you. You
Speaker 1: got you got doc tendencies about yourself. You just you know,
Speaker 1: you start fatiguing me. So I'm like all right, you
Speaker 1: know whatever. So we're just watching it every day, watching
Speaker 1: every day, and then he started making beats and then
Speaker 1: he would mute it and be like, man, this is
Speaker 1: the ill scene. Look at this ill scene, Like this
Speaker 1: sounds like this, this sounds supposed to go to this
Speaker 1: and you see homeboy running down the steps or doing
Speaker 1: whatever he's doing, you know, doing something, so um, you know,
Speaker 1: with that being the case, he was like, man, I
Speaker 1: don't want I don't want you rapping. I want you
Speaker 1: to you know, like really, embody it, like you know
Speaker 1: that's why that that's why that song sounds. So I'm
Speaker 1: saying all the evil ship I would say, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking a matter of fact. You like Buffalo Shrimp from
Speaker 1: My Hey, Moss Coke deals up stays at the Round
Speaker 1: Mother the Ocean from Hotels was popular, and crack was
Speaker 1: cemented for nomena. I like the presidential was on my own,
Speaker 1: you know that, just like you know, just talking like
Speaker 1: you know. But he made me like bro that took forever.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was an R and B singer
Speaker 1: because he made me like, like, yo, no, you still
Speaker 1: you you know I'm still He's like, nah, I don't not.
Speaker 1: It's not is that a hit to your ego? Like
Speaker 1: how much of your ego takes a hit when he's
Speaker 1: telling you this is my brother. I mean, I don't,
Speaker 1: you know, like my ego, don't my ego don't even
Speaker 1: kick in with him. As far as that goes, it's
Speaker 1: the difference in what we appreciate because it's still at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, a high six teen is
Speaker 1: like a top ten record to me. If any got
Speaker 1: motherfucking twenty four mean bars and I come across it,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm floyed, but I'm gonna know it. I memorize it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's something that like,
Speaker 1: that's something that I can hear in the street and
Speaker 1: I can feel in the street and something you know,
Speaker 1: things are gonna talk about it, the bather, shopping, so
Speaker 1: on and sofa like all of that energy is what
Speaker 1: fuels me. And it was just it was bothersome to
Speaker 1: know that that ain't really fuel him like it used
Speaker 1: to feel him like it used to feel us together.
Speaker 1: That was my issue. More so, I believe that's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. One thing about the album that you said
Speaker 1: that I did disagree. You said you thought your fans
Speaker 1: wish your fans was more like Jay Cole's right, And
Speaker 1: I think you said because then lying after that because
Speaker 1: the Dope Boys was Dope Boys gotta be the man
Speaker 1: like they know double one times are shortly load. They
Speaker 1: know I'm the man. I'm the man. But I want
Speaker 1: to disagree with you. The reason why let me just
Speaker 1: tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I go through because I don't think they
Speaker 1: actually when it comes to whenever when person says push
Speaker 1: you and they say Kendrick and they say Jay and
Speaker 1: they say cold, I don't think they say push your
Speaker 1: is it? But he's dope wrapper cocaine wraps, and Kendrick is.
Speaker 1: I think that you're all in that lyrical and that
Speaker 1: all I don't think. I don't think you're you're, you're, you're, you're,
Speaker 1: You're categorized as a cocaine don't wrapper or cocaine don't wrapper,
Speaker 1: and Kendrick is a backpack dope wrapper and Jay Cole
Speaker 1: is a dread wearing dope wrapper. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: categorized like that. I think it's categorized as lyricism. And
Speaker 1: and in the cage of lyricism, you and J Cole
Speaker 1: as the same fans. And that made me true. I mean,
Speaker 1: we toured together, so we talk together, and and that
Speaker 1: that that line came from just referencing said something like
Speaker 1: Jay lyrically he wish he would be and I kind
Speaker 1: of felt that that was what you was going to
Speaker 1: see see with me. It was like when I was
Speaker 1: saying that, I was just speaking to the fact that man,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been on tour with J Cole and
Speaker 1: when I when I when I was out there and
Speaker 1: I would like I would go out there of course
Speaker 1: do my set, watch his set, um, maybe even go
Speaker 1: to the after party or whatever they you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, his crew, whatever the case may be. But
Speaker 1: it was the energy around him was just like it
Speaker 1: was all it was all praise and like man, they
Speaker 1: just happy that. It just felt like a college energy
Speaker 1: and just people are just happy to be around them
Speaker 1: and happy to see him. Um, I forgot shift. What
Speaker 1: year was that? Sure? He on the phone? Um yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But but but I was liking in it too when
Speaker 1: I go out and like when I do the after
Speaker 1: parties and so on and so forth, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a it kind of gets a dangerous thing and it's
Speaker 1: like you know you you you got those who love
Speaker 1: you on something like yo, yo, I'll rock with what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Then it's always the yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: killing you know what. It's a different energy, and then
Speaker 1: it turns into you know that, get a little dicey
Speaker 1: and get a little you know, I gotta turn into this,
Speaker 1: And it was just it was just tapping on another
Speaker 1: another instance of call my bluff because even that person
Speaker 1: can get it, Like I'm just like bro, that's where
Speaker 1: my mindset was. But that mindset is like, that's a
Speaker 1: real thing for me in real and real time outside,
Speaker 1: like you run across that energy with what it is
Speaker 1: that I do, whereas what what what what what Jake
Speaker 1: Cole does. It's like, man, it's like it's just a
Speaker 1: different It's it's cool and it's lax, and and his
Speaker 1: fans are just like he'll be riding bikes to the city.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, he definitely but still
Speaker 1: like Bob Molly is like like the hip hop and
Speaker 1: I love listen, I love my fans. I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to uh, you know, talk down on
Speaker 1: them at all, but I'm just saying there's a difference
Speaker 1: in Okay, the rest said watch what you say you attracted.
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of coboys going to your joints, listen,
Speaker 1: little down church, you to cheeny the car phones. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is that what happens to you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that it's not that, it's just you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know before like you know well, and I'm saying
Speaker 1: I think is sonically like lyricism sonically, it's it's all
Speaker 1: on the same. For sure. You're saying it's the content
Speaker 1: is attracting different energy, like the specific content that you're addressing,
Speaker 1: not totally you are right, yeah, but um, it's like
Speaker 1: I think they repeat this question to you all the time,
Speaker 1: this question to jay Z all the time. They repeat
Speaker 1: this questions the Jada kiss all the time, and it's like,
Speaker 1: as much as you've grown, it's still that you know,
Speaker 1: this is where I come from type of you know,
Speaker 1: hustle rap. It's it's the cocaine references. And you know,
Speaker 1: how is that throughout these years, like is this is
Speaker 1: this this question always gonna come up or they understand
Speaker 1: that it's a reference. Man, I don't mind the question
Speaker 1: because I don't mind answering it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like I've been saying as of late, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be the Martin Scorsese of of street rap, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I want out, Like y'all
Speaker 1: don't ask Martin Scorsese to make Going with the Wind,
Speaker 1: you know, you want him to make a gang conflict
Speaker 1: with guns, mob killers, boom, and we all run to
Speaker 1: the movie every time, we all doing whatever we're doing
Speaker 1: to see it, talking about it and loving it. For
Speaker 1: a lifetime. That's what happens. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, I look at myself like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And it's like, man, this is like, bro,
Speaker 1: this this is wrap that I know. I mean, how
Speaker 1: I look at rap, man, Rap started in the street.
Speaker 1: It started in It started from poverty and started it
Speaker 1: started from despair. It started from just coming outside talking
Speaker 1: about your environment, bro. Like, I don't understand why it's
Speaker 1: an issue. I don't even understand why people talk about like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, what what my content is
Speaker 1: versus what somebody else content is. It's like, no, we
Speaker 1: want to like this is and and at this point
Speaker 1: I've been in this twenty years, Like I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm here to entertain a certain sector of people. I'm
Speaker 1: not going out to like I'm not reaching out trying
Speaker 1: to get new people and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: like and and I don't believe that it's just if
Speaker 1: you're surface level listeners all cocaine service level. And I
Speaker 1: don't think I'll write for surface level listeners. I write
Speaker 1: for people who'll be like you overwind that back people
Speaker 1: to say, I'll be winding a couple of times. Yes,
Speaker 1: So let's le let's talk about the album. I want
Speaker 1: to break down song from song at some point, but
Speaker 1: before we get deep straight into the album. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to ask something. Well, I've heard you on the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club answer this. Um. Also, I believe I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you did ebro and them. You did ebro
Speaker 1: on them right yesterday. Okay, I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: seen it yet. Okay, but I've seen a couple of
Speaker 1: interviews where this Jack Harlow song, Yeah, it's brought up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, push what's up? Because you like
Speaker 1: you like the only Donalds like this man has no
Speaker 1: other losses anywhird? This man is the Michael Elvis. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's a person. You made
Speaker 1: that one, you know, I made it that this man
Speaker 1: and he says revenge is it's not even a coachable
Speaker 1: even though this verse could be old right, revenge. I
Speaker 1: gotta get him back for that whatever he's I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I paraphrasing on Jack all Dry the body trying to
Speaker 1: kill Jack, and it sounded like he was trying to
Speaker 1: kill Jack coming for you. Yeah, what does push your
Speaker 1: teeth say, even though it's old, it might be old. No, no, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, bro, like okay, it's it's sounds
Speaker 1: when I say old. It sounded old old to me,
Speaker 1: like just the flows, the raps, like it just wasn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't what it is that I think four years
Speaker 1: later after what I did, that's not that wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: I mean like that didn't even phase me. But you
Speaker 1: don't think because of the even though, like you said,
Speaker 1: it sounds old, but the content of it was, Like
Speaker 1: I ain't forgetting it. I'm coming from I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they forget, Like I don't care,
Speaker 1: like bro, like for real, like I'm just I mean
Speaker 1: just being totally totally honest. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: And I think they know it, like they know it.
Speaker 1: All parties know it. Yeah, you know it. He know.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not playing with anybody. I'm not because you
Speaker 1: did not show up with the concert. No, no, we
Speaker 1: know he asked me to because because you know what,
Speaker 1: because and it's not it was it was it's simply
Speaker 1: because like it's at this point, none of it is
Speaker 1: a game to me, like none of it and I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm doing my best to just you know, let
Speaker 1: bygones be bygones. I'm chilling. I'm good. I mean, look like,
Speaker 1: listen to me, listen to my album Untouchable. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you know, man, you know I
Speaker 1: look at all of that is um and all of
Speaker 1: that energy as still showing the effects of what it
Speaker 1: is that I've done, real, real, for real, because because
Speaker 1: really I don't, I don't even think about it. I don't.
Speaker 1: And there's no bars on this album. I was looking
Speaker 1: for that too. I was looking for this. My momm
Speaker 1: is flawless without it, right, that's crazy. Anybody else would
Speaker 1: have jumped on and not not me because I ain't
Speaker 1: really playing like I'm really not. So everybody understands that's it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let me ask has Jake Prince ever weeks out
Speaker 1: to you? Like how I spoke to j Prince numerous times? Man,
Speaker 1: so so not about him? Okay, don't know, nobody talk
Speaker 1: to me about him him? Because I also heard you
Speaker 1: say you don't want to record with UM. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be I'm gonna be honest, I don't want it.
Speaker 1: Let's just not even I don't I want to record.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't want it. I'm cool.
Speaker 1: I'm cool without it. You don't want none, none, no, photo,
Speaker 1: I'm cool. Photo want to say, No, you don't play
Speaker 1: hockey with him, Canada, none of it. I'm cool like
Speaker 1: I ain't playing. I'm gonna just go ahead and do
Speaker 1: what I do. Put y'all that peace. I'm at peace.
Speaker 1: So if right now you're hosting Saturday Night Live, that
Speaker 1: was a wrong choice you hosted. You can't host that.
Speaker 1: I've been saying, I don't know how that came out of.
Speaker 1: You want this part of the club, right, they say,
Speaker 1: there's one of the artists walking in here. They wanted
Speaker 1: the other side of the club, right right next to
Speaker 1: there they come. You see who it is. It's push
Speaker 1: to leaven. No, but you're not. I'm never not stilling
Speaker 1: in your hands. No, I don't want to listen. I
Speaker 1: want nothing. I want I don't if as a person
Speaker 1: who let's just let's just look at the face value. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's say everyone who actually said that, you guys sparred
Speaker 1: right that you guys want to add it. Everybody says
Speaker 1: you want right, most most of people who are lyrical
Speaker 1: content especially after his meek male Thebacco. Most people say
Speaker 1: that you want, so then why are you not willing
Speaker 1: to say? You know what it was? I felt attacked
Speaker 1: because things that I don't speak on and things that
Speaker 1: I won't speak on have happened since right that I'm
Speaker 1: I just ain't wanna speak on it, but I ain't playing,
Speaker 1: so for me, it ain't even about you know. I
Speaker 1: feel like if it was just a rap thing and
Speaker 1: it was what it was, you know that was cool.
Speaker 1: You think that they went too far when they mentioned
Speaker 1: your lady name or where was it the point where
Speaker 1: it was like this is it? Like? Oh no? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't really talk about it,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like, you know, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know there were um, you know, I've been to
Speaker 1: Canada before. I can't I'm banned from Canada because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm banned from Canada, Like I can't get back. I
Speaker 1: can't get back over there, right really, yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: allowed to be go back over That's why. But because
Speaker 1: what I think is when where they think that you
Speaker 1: went too far? I don't care. I don't care they're
Speaker 1: too far. I don't play like that. That's how you
Speaker 1: don't play with me, right right right, that's why you
Speaker 1: don't play with me. There is no too far. It's
Speaker 1: not anything alone. It leaves me be, leave me be
Speaker 1: because there's no too far. That's how it goes. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing. No, no, no, they won't play. That's
Speaker 1: the thing you felt like you went to I never
Speaker 1: go to far. There's too far. There's no too far.
Speaker 1: Absolutely promise you. Did you ever feel like I never
Speaker 1: felt nothing. And anybody who ever told me that I
Speaker 1: was I went too far. I never spoke to me like, okay,
Speaker 1: because let's be visited. Let's just be visited. How everyone
Speaker 1: thinks this started was it started from the M to
Speaker 1: me too, I don't know. I don't even know at
Speaker 1: this point. No, no, for for real, for me, and
Speaker 1: this that's what me from the outside of looking at
Speaker 1: that's an insider, that's an outside of it. Though. For me,
Speaker 1: when you go all the way back to all of that,
Speaker 1: I remember just a very dark time for me just musically, um,
Speaker 1: not having you know, being and uh what you call it,
Speaker 1: um like a label drama or whatever and um and
Speaker 1: I remember I mean when you go back and mr
Speaker 1: me too, you're talking about the Wayne thing, and that's
Speaker 1: what it was. It trickle down. But yeah, because I
Speaker 1: mean there was like some Vibe issue where he was,
Speaker 1: you know, we was, you know, we're just I think
Speaker 1: we're just done. Um what's up on? What happened to
Speaker 1: that boy or something? You know, maybe a little bit yeah,
Speaker 1: burning on later on down the line, people were telling
Speaker 1: Wayne he was, you know, trying to talk dope like
Speaker 1: the clips or drugs and and and he wore babe
Speaker 1: like the clips. I never said that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think just at this particular time,
Speaker 1: it was a rough time for us because we was
Speaker 1: going through label drama whatever you remember that, like the
Speaker 1: four year hiatus and and so then there was a
Speaker 1: there was a Vibe article where he you know, just
Speaker 1: spoke to that. But he just spoke about us in
Speaker 1: a very um yeah, like a down you know, like
Speaker 1: down talking. And I'm like, damn, we already going through
Speaker 1: were going through and you know, you're not even bright
Speaker 1: enough for smart enough at the you know, at the time,
Speaker 1: like I ain't. I ain't got no problem with Wayne.
Speaker 1: I mean, just so we clear, I ain't. You know.
Speaker 1: It's so Wayne is that same artist at that club.
Speaker 1: You're gonna gonna you might not necessarily, but I it's cool,
Speaker 1: like it, it's cool, but it's no problem. But I
Speaker 1: just you know, you never know, you just know how
Speaker 1: it is. But you know. So that's what for me
Speaker 1: back then, what you know what started? Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like everything else was just you know, as of late,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of like just the Kanye drama
Speaker 1: because next to it, depending in me, would have been
Speaker 1: like what you doing this concert for? Was the name
Speaker 1: of the concert? I don't remember, Yeah, but like what
Speaker 1: you doing this concert for? We went to ball depending
Speaker 1: but you know, at the same time, you gotta I reckon.
Speaker 1: I know how to compartmentalize everything. That's that's my gift.
Speaker 1: J got together. It was needed for hip hop. Do
Speaker 1: you think that? No, I don't even think they make
Speaker 1: good music together. That's the wildest part. Like, ain't even
Speaker 1: like a hot record? Name it glow what? What glowing up? When?
Speaker 1: Come on? Why? I gotta google it? Come on? So
Speaker 1: it's not like for real for me, just them doing
Speaker 1: what they did, I felt like that was good for
Speaker 1: them because it was hard. Listen. I thought Kanye looked amazing.
Speaker 1: One like he looked. I mean because the Scotty just
Speaker 1: showed you know, our artist with the E you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like next level? What what that? Whatever?
Speaker 1: Is that like? But with that being said, like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't damn, I forgot where I was at. You
Speaker 1: said you thought Kanye looked good, but oh yeah, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that was good for them, Like
Speaker 1: I think that was yeah, Like I you know, and
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't ever put no type
Speaker 1: of pressures nowhere. I don't you know, I'll stay out
Speaker 1: of the situation because they playing, they're playing, they play
Speaker 1: an industry game. I think Kanye said he's on a
Speaker 1: professional level and that's and that's cool and that's great
Speaker 1: and that's like you know, I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like that's gonna work for for them and what it
Speaker 1: is that they do what you no, I'm cool. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just over here, bro. I know exactly what
Speaker 1: my lane is. I know exactly what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: know exactly who I want to be with, who I
Speaker 1: want to make records with. I know what I'm not doing.
Speaker 1: I know what damages my brand what doesn't. And there's
Speaker 1: absolutely no value in that for me because immediately when
Speaker 1: we heard that can wrist on uh and then hold
Speaker 1: set a blue bird money. They go again, Oh no,
Speaker 1: I didn't want that. No no no, no, no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no I blue bird money. Y'all talking
Speaker 1: Twitter feed feed bird you know bird food is you
Speaker 1: know they called the feed. But but you got me,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm just saying like that. But that was
Speaker 1: the first Yeah, but it was just I knew that
Speaker 1: was but I just knew it was not understanding. I
Speaker 1: was into all the gossip. Noo, he's the other fans
Speaker 1: at frequency that really brought into it until what's my
Speaker 1: man name, young g Yeah, actually went on. It was
Speaker 1: like guys, I mean that's when I knew. That's when
Speaker 1: I knew it was like it probably got too loud
Speaker 1: when I saw Guru say something, cause I'm like, I've
Speaker 1: seen it, but I'm like, whatever, ain't that's gonna blow over.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't real because it's kind of like, just
Speaker 1: think about the people that you have beef with and
Speaker 1: you survived Little Way Birdman and Drake and you have
Speaker 1: no like scars. For me, it's none, none, but it's
Speaker 1: all up. It's all up. There's no with me. I
Speaker 1: have no issues man, And you're bad from Canada. I
Speaker 1: thought you was just saying that. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm serious and this is this I did you know?
Speaker 1: How did you know he was bad? My my, my
Speaker 1: manage over here told me what happened. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into that, but down Trump asked
Speaker 1: him do nothing because Trump, and um, yeah, what what
Speaker 1: you said? Trump? You're talking about you can put it
Speaker 1: in here. What are you talking about? So you said,
Speaker 1: let's just be clear. You're saying you went to what
Speaker 1: is called customs. They you turn down, turn out, I
Speaker 1: can turn out of the border. Oh so you filled
Speaker 1: out for your visa and they yes, what did you
Speaker 1: do in cant I didn't do nothing. I went to
Speaker 1: my show. You know it was rolling people at this
Speaker 1: show perform that song. I performed. No, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't even get and I got on and I got
Speaker 1: on my way. You know, it was cool. That's playing
Speaker 1: a different game. You get a nicke a bath from
Speaker 1: the country. That's a little next level. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit that's a little different. On this listen, that's a
Speaker 1: little different. I ain't gonna I could do it. I
Speaker 1: would do it too, though, you would definitely do that.
Speaker 1: Definitely sold off show, Jesus. So in no world, we're
Speaker 1: never gonna squash this. Hopefully in one world. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: There's nothing for me to squash. I've done it all,
Speaker 1: it's done. I'm done. Yeah, I'm finished. I'm cool. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's nothing for me to do. That's a beautiful thing, man,
Speaker 1: because gratulate that's positive. Really you guys the flowers, hey, man, uh,
Speaker 1: we don't know if you know. Our show was about
Speaker 1: giving people they flower and we one million percent want
Speaker 1: to give you your flowers to your face. How great
Speaker 1: you are, how you standing up the time. Man, I've
Speaker 1: seen how you came and for you to still be
Speaker 1: at the level of relevancy, for people to still for
Speaker 1: you to make an album the way you may and
Speaker 1: not like I said, because I'm your friend, because I'm
Speaker 1: I feel like a family member. Especially we all under
Speaker 1: the thing Snoop said, Well, he said, we're all under
Speaker 1: the dray tree, and we're all under the neptune tree,
Speaker 1: under the rape away leave a Bark or even the
Speaker 1: fucking route. We're all part of the tree. And so
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I'm proud of your brother.
Speaker 1: Every time I see you, every time i've seen him
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, I've been always drunk
Speaker 1: and he's always prayed over me. It's been the weirdest.
Speaker 1: That's right. The apoint he's come in here, he'd be
Speaker 1: crowding you right now. We're in the middle, and I
Speaker 1: just want to tell y'all, yo, man's for standards as
Speaker 1: of time. The way you have and the way you
Speaker 1: are still enjoying this game is still being a bar lord.
Speaker 1: And I can't even find a whack ball. I've been
Speaker 1: looking like Dean slip here. He didn't slip it and
Speaker 1: you haven't. And I just want to say that is abnormal.
Speaker 1: That is not a normal thing. And slute you, my brother,
Speaker 1: Thank you. We want to yes, yes literally literally gave
Speaker 1: yourself fly, So man, that is crazy. Before we're gonna
Speaker 1: create time and slip, I just want to go through
Speaker 1: this playlist all Stewart, go to go hit number one
Speaker 1: before me. It's in your group chat fun black it ristone.
Speaker 1: Uh Well, Brambleton Okay, yeah, that's one. Yeah, okay, let's
Speaker 1: talk about that sets off the album? Yeah. Um, well, first,
Speaker 1: you know, Brambleton Um set off the album. You know,
Speaker 1: strategically I put that there because Big started Life after
Speaker 1: Death with his story and I always felt like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I've never first of all, I never do
Speaker 1: many stories. And then I was like, man, I actually
Speaker 1: got one, and I felt like it was strong enough
Speaker 1: to just just set the tone. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: Brambleton Avenue is as a place in um Norfolk, Virginia.
Speaker 1: UM youth coming up. My mom worked on it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You could you know, I could
Speaker 1: go see her young you know, young kid going to
Speaker 1: see her. I can see sweepe w across the street
Speaker 1: in a project called Young's Park, and you know, just outside,
Speaker 1: you know, being great, whatever the case may be. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, the song itself, the song itself was
Speaker 1: just for me, just describing a relationship, you know, describing
Speaker 1: a relationship I had in the street. My former manager.
Speaker 1: He was on Glad not too long ago. Oh is
Speaker 1: that the same person that you made the snitch? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like the Snitch record. I feel
Speaker 1: like the Snitch record was like an amy, but it
Speaker 1: was just like a lot. I feel like the Snitch acronym.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Snitch record itself was just like a
Speaker 1: All the just instances and ship that was going on
Speaker 1: this record, particularly right here, was like yo, Like after
Speaker 1: seeing after seeing the interview, I was like, damn, Like
Speaker 1: that's you know you described you described he was on
Speaker 1: TV talking about what because she was on Glad TV
Speaker 1: and he spoke about how like he said, um, I
Speaker 1: believe one of the quotes was of everything was about him,
Speaker 1: like you know, the raps were about him and uh
Speaker 1: and what else was it? It was? It was just
Speaker 1: a couple of different things that I was like, damn, man,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I never I never I would see
Speaker 1: somebody that I've been you know, so you know, down
Speaker 1: with or whatever entrenched in like all types of ship,
Speaker 1: never down talk or try to downplay me like I
Speaker 1: never I would not like wherever we're stand right now,
Speaker 1: I would never do it. I've never done it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I just didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: so I took the time that I was just you know,
Speaker 1: I was telling for all about the whole situation or whatever.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, that's the song right there. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's a song. And you know, I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give like a real context to
Speaker 1: what my view of our relationship and what it was.
Speaker 1: Then you know what, I'm like, just what our relationship was,
Speaker 1: what it was in the streets, and and I wanted
Speaker 1: to make that record because I feel like it was
Speaker 1: a it was it speaks to loyalty, like it speaks
Speaker 1: to loyalty and being loyal and and and understanding the
Speaker 1: idea of team like back then, and and and and
Speaker 1: you know, just when all the street ship was going on,
Speaker 1: and I always looked at it as a team, all
Speaker 1: of us was a team. Now you may have this much,
Speaker 1: I could have this much, They could have this much,
Speaker 1: but all of it and everybody was working to for
Speaker 1: the betterment of everybody, and everybody had a role. That
Speaker 1: was the thing. Never looked at, you know, never been envious. Never,
Speaker 1: That's just my whole ship. I ain't never been envious.
Speaker 1: And nobody musically, none of that. That's just not me. Um.
Speaker 1: I always know how important my role is to whatever
Speaker 1: situation it is, Like, you know, even being a good music.
Speaker 1: I don't sell the most records. I ain't never been
Speaker 1: you know, I don't sell the most record more than
Speaker 1: anybody else who's been over there whatever. Always Still you know,
Speaker 1: I'm me, like, I know what I bring to the table, um,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just that song was just for
Speaker 1: for for the guys who honestly are in these positions
Speaker 1: and in these roles and are doing anything and you
Speaker 1: think that you you know, you think that, y'all. You
Speaker 1: know you're you're you're focused, and you're determined on what
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing. You're getting your money, your
Speaker 1: man getting his money, bla blah, and you're thinking his
Speaker 1: teamwork and and and in their mind they call it.
Speaker 1: You know, you're working for them. And you know, ultimately,
Speaker 1: as soon as the roles change or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be, you see who gets to you see people
Speaker 1: true colors. Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, heavy song, heavy song. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Listening to that just ain't gonna my
Speaker 1: head now because again I wasn't listening to it for that.
Speaker 1: I was listening to it. Yeah, I was just listening
Speaker 1: to totally. I'm just looking at the art and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's no way that Scott can still be this good.
Speaker 1: Like I like, I'm sorry I was down because I
Speaker 1: wasn't downing you'd like to doubt you, but I was like,
Speaker 1: it's no way because it's just a level of success.
Speaker 1: But you know, we we are the error that is
Speaker 1: going to be able to take We're we're we are
Speaker 1: the error that is going to be able to see
Speaker 1: if hip hop can be progressive as it ages. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like this is the time
Speaker 1: where it figures itself, act, go to real distance, you know,
Speaker 1: get on our YouTube, rolling stones whatever. I think like
Speaker 1: the four four fourth album kind of helped that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, but but that even still that was
Speaker 1: the hope is one that he's before our error. He's
Speaker 1: wonder for us. Yeah, so you need to like, and
Speaker 1: I'm talking about for the genre to look like it
Speaker 1: can do. What to do? He dispeccially and he called
Speaker 1: on early. But we are the class that is gonna
Speaker 1: be myself ya you know everybody, you know, everybody within
Speaker 1: this time frame, it's gonna be the one to show
Speaker 1: how far this ship can go a real so so
Speaker 1: so it's not I don't think it's that crazy like
Speaker 1: you know, being you know, still competing, like because we
Speaker 1: were still competitive, like you said, we're still young, we
Speaker 1: are like and when that comes the spirit of competition
Speaker 1: and creativity has no age limits, right sure, And however
Speaker 1: you tap into it if it's being competitive, some people
Speaker 1: do it differently, you know, just to tap into that creativity.
Speaker 1: For sure. I saw number two. Let the smokers shot
Speaker 1: the coop. Let the smoker shot the coops. Man. That
Speaker 1: was that was me asking for real to give me
Speaker 1: his best best glaciers of ice type beat he could
Speaker 1: he could ever make. Um, you know? That was that
Speaker 1: was that Actually that that record actually came from Hit
Speaker 1: Factory again at six in the morning. But we was
Speaker 1: at hit Factory because you know at Miami, Miami Hit Factory,
Speaker 1: and we were like, um, you know, we have been
Speaker 1: working out the house for a little while and I
Speaker 1: felt like he just wanted a different changes scenery, like
Speaker 1: you know, sort of exhausted the energy there and we
Speaker 1: started going to Hit Factory earlier. Baby, don't working out
Speaker 1: hit Factory to I ain't seen nobody that is not
Speaker 1: even being funny actually, but you know, but just you know,
Speaker 1: just just working um again. And it was it was
Speaker 1: you know, it was a it was a thing for me,
Speaker 1: you know, being being an actual being, an actual student.
Speaker 1: Um with the flow, you know what I'm saying, Like no,
Speaker 1: you can't you know, right and right and right and
Speaker 1: and like ah no, I ain't know where the cadence at,
Speaker 1: where the bounce you know what I'm saying. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know it might be an initial initial four
Speaker 1: bars here like yeah, but it ain't no bounce there
Speaker 1: and ain't sticky to the ain't sticky to the track?
Speaker 1: Is it just y'all two in the studio together? Probably yeah,
Speaker 1: this day, this particularly, I don't know if Chat made
Speaker 1: it yet. I don't know if Chat he he did,
Speaker 1: he did. I think he did a little co producing
Speaker 1: on some stuff too as well. Okay, um dreaming dreaming,
Speaker 1: dreaming of the past, dreaming in the past. Um man,
Speaker 1: I actually stole that one because, um, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the theft. Yeah, because because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: times me and you work on album simultaneously. So he
Speaker 1: got a folder, I got a folder. You know. Hell
Speaker 1: he picked all the beats and be like okay, that's
Speaker 1: your folder, that's my folder. And from other producers. Um,
Speaker 1: some his and yeah, and just you know, just a
Speaker 1: hard driver that he has of just joints and he'll
Speaker 1: he'll he'll pick stuff that he thinks is a good
Speaker 1: enough skeleton and for me to rhyme to. He he accidentally,
Speaker 1: I think, played hit that beat and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, like let me let me get that, and
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I love it. You know it's mine,
Speaker 1: this is and that, and I kept asking for it.
Speaker 1: So ultimately he um, I noticed he still hadn't wrote
Speaker 1: the song yet, and I was like, damn, man, you
Speaker 1: don't like the song. Let me get the song. And
Speaker 1: he finally let me get it, and I was just like, listen,
Speaker 1: why don't you why don't you just put like, you know,
Speaker 1: eight bars on the end of it or you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like that way I could lock in
Speaker 1: the song. If he knew he was on it, then
Speaker 1: then I could get it. So that's that's what we did,
Speaker 1: and then it became your yea. I first recorded it
Speaker 1: with the attentions going on no no, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: even know. I like once I once I got it,
Speaker 1: Once I got it and put the verses on it.
Speaker 1: He Um he heard it was like man, I can't
Speaker 1: be on that. And I was like, no, you can't.
Speaker 1: Like what's up, just get yours off? And I gave
Speaker 1: him the comparison of Big Big coming in for like
Speaker 1: three bars on Little Kim Queen Bitch, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, everything you do don't gotta be
Speaker 1: heavy lifting. You already produced to be Why you gotta
Speaker 1: have it? Ain't all that like. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that's why the record wasn't written in the first place.
Speaker 1: It was you know, it was heavy. You know, you
Speaker 1: gotta go in on that joint. He probably taking his
Speaker 1: time whatever. I'm like, broa give it to me. Get
Speaker 1: yours off. You can get yours off in four bars
Speaker 1: now before we go, because I want to go right
Speaker 1: back into the album. But before we get into that.
Speaker 1: Who was you at when you see ye say Shaw
Speaker 1: was the worst thing he's up? Side down? Was? I
Speaker 1: think I was at the crib? Yeah, I think at
Speaker 1: the crib um. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, um, they'll be having they'll
Speaker 1: be having a little they their issues, bro, Like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, man, you can have issues with you man,
Speaker 1: people people. You know, he he's a different different back
Speaker 1: and forth, you know what I'm saying. So they was
Speaker 1: having their issues and I guess he felt, you know,
Speaker 1: they need to get it off. And we don't see
Speaker 1: him that often, you know, doing like you you got
Speaker 1: you got the interview hit me to but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: um and I feel like, um, you know, he probably
Speaker 1: was just getting whatever whatever he felt off his chest.
Speaker 1: But they they they be having a little back and
Speaker 1: force as well. And then it was it wasn't a
Speaker 1: call did you got for Big Sean after that direct or? No? Um,
Speaker 1: then you got to see him back on drink big No. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't get no call. I didn't. I don't think
Speaker 1: I got a call. Um, Damn I did. I know
Speaker 1: I did, I didn't. I mean I didn't discuss it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't discuss it, man, Like that's that's their ship. Man.
Speaker 1: You know why I say that because other than you
Speaker 1: be what you know over y'all, I feel like you're
Speaker 1: the most level minded. I'm for sure the most level mind. Like,
Speaker 1: let's just be sure the most the other guy, I'm
Speaker 1: very much everyone, I'm fair level level minded. I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't meddle stay I'm never gonna be
Speaker 1: on another record, said Cutty, please just clear this strong.
Speaker 1: Please cut I know, I know, I know you because Cutty,
Speaker 1: you know, Cutty's like Cutty my brother. Like Cutty's like, man,
Speaker 1: he really gonna stand on what it is that he
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, whatever, whatever it is that
Speaker 1: he had an issue with, he gonna staying on that.
Speaker 1: So man, you don't even know, like he was the
Speaker 1: last person cleared on the album, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, so you know, you're getting down to
Speaker 1: the wire, You're getting like because he was holding right
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm in the studio. I'm in the
Speaker 1: studio doing like radio drops and he called me and
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, please, I know, I know, but just
Speaker 1: you know, why why did you know? Because the label
Speaker 1: I told you that he was Yeah, so I you know,
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard. After a while, like when I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just wondering, like, you know, what's the
Speaker 1: you know, what's the progress with the album as far
Speaker 1: as turning it in and handed in because the music
Speaker 1: have been done. So I'm like I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what's the days gonna be, you know, just and
Speaker 1: I can't get these answers and nobody's saying nothing for
Speaker 1: a long time. Everybody just being now, you know, we're
Speaker 1: just getting it together. And then it finally got to
Speaker 1: come out there it was cutting, and I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: So he ended up calling me and you know, just
Speaker 1: just telling me like you know, um, just telling me
Speaker 1: how he felt and telling me he was he's gonna
Speaker 1: clear it and you know, it's never nothing about me,
Speaker 1: and you know, but he was like, yo, this this
Speaker 1: the last one with me. I heard you had hired
Speaker 1: a video director and everything. I hired a video director.
Speaker 1: I've seen the video director the other night. Seeing him
Speaker 1: the other night, told me, uh, you know, told me
Speaker 1: how they got had the treatment together me me, and
Speaker 1: you picked this predicted particular dude, you know, and he
Speaker 1: was like no, no, no, he was like you know,
Speaker 1: and everything just blew up. I was like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever gonna do it. So
Speaker 1: you got to hear the information prior to it being public.
Speaker 1: What's that that that? Yeah? Last? Ye? So he actually
Speaker 1: called you and then send the tweet out that like
Speaker 1: I never I know, man, that's the you know, cutting
Speaker 1: fans is rabid, like they are rabbid as soon as
Speaker 1: he does something, say something and go crazy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you all. Uh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you, um something that Cutty differ for me that
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. I was just like
Speaker 1: in this weird space, right, and um, I think I was.
Speaker 1: I was on tour with the group called Mastercraft, remember that,
Speaker 1: remember recorded that joining at our studio Mastercraft, and they
Speaker 1: were like a Canadian like d M Man and they
Speaker 1: wanted me to do it. So I was in this
Speaker 1: like weird world and I would just go and just
Speaker 1: did tonight show like a whole bunch of these what work.
Speaker 1: It was like a little crazy year of my life, right.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't going to like hip hop clubs and
Speaker 1: I wasn't definitely wasn't going to like real world hip
Speaker 1: hop clubs and cut I think I forget how cutting
Speaker 1: out in contact with me or how we even spoke
Speaker 1: and he said you'll come to my show tonight, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like for what, Like in
Speaker 1: my mind I said for what, I didn't think what
Speaker 1: to them, but I was like, how I identified with
Speaker 1: your audience. I'm this guy that's over here doing this
Speaker 1: different type of music at this point, like where did
Speaker 1: this correlate? And he brought me out and then he
Speaker 1: had me do all these neptune records. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember that. And he was like, well is
Speaker 1: God in our world? And you brought God? So your
Speaker 1: God in our world? And I had never thought up
Speaker 1: like that in this Hi the crownd with me doing
Speaker 1: like courting fucking purgatory and hip hop purgatory and that
Speaker 1: this hits the crowd that for real and kind of
Speaker 1: like made this whole audience and I can still be
Speaker 1: who I am, and and and and Kid Cutty was
Speaker 1: the first person to show me that your brother, you
Speaker 1: your God in this audience because we we we looked
Speaker 1: at the audience like we're those people were bonzoes ourselves.
Speaker 1: He was like all those guys, you know, they were
Speaker 1: backpacks and you know they do cocaine in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Is different, differ different, you know, you know, but not
Speaker 1: realize audience is okay, okay, the record Neck and Wrist
Speaker 1: don't live now. First off, let's just be clear. You're
Speaker 1: using drug dealers anonymous. Yeah, you're using this So this
Speaker 1: is favorite dose. Yeah, it's not favorite, right, Yeah, hey, man,
Speaker 1: here's my ship. This is his favorite number two. They
Speaker 1: just don't get a little favorites from the guard. Man.
Speaker 1: It's the man as y'all making the record. You're saying,
Speaker 1: we're calling the guard as you're making the record or you.
Speaker 1: As soon as I lay diverse. As soon as I
Speaker 1: lay diverse, the hook is there. I was like listening
Speaker 1: for Mattes so he has a space. A matter of fact, though,
Speaker 1: it was like the bridge everything, and I was like,
Speaker 1: just leave him open space. And man, I just emailed
Speaker 1: it to him. See me personally, the name of the
Speaker 1: record would have scared me to send it to him,
Speaker 1: because you know, neck and Risk don't lie. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: when I had drinks with him one time he had
Speaker 1: on just the light three point five not a stone
Speaker 1: inside it was it was believe it's a paddock um
Speaker 1: uh factory. Though they called it the poplo Escobar or
Speaker 1: something like this. I didn't even want to ask point
Speaker 1: five day. That was the that was the That's the
Speaker 1: only reason I call him though, honestly, I mean about
Speaker 1: music when it comes to music. When it comes to music,
Speaker 1: because I wrote a second verse for it, it just
Speaker 1: didn't hit like I wanted it to hit so um
Speaker 1: and I only reached like I said, I own. They
Speaker 1: reach out to him musically when I feel like the
Speaker 1: song needs an uptick, like to take it to the
Speaker 1: next level. And we got Jupiter, yeah for sure. And
Speaker 1: I mean neck and wrisk don't lie. I knew. I
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna say twelve things that I can't say.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I could. There's other
Speaker 1: artists who could have been on it, but they're not
Speaker 1: gonna They're not gonna say too much. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: got different sobs to like I was done. I was done,
Speaker 1: like I needed all. I was done. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just reach out to him. I reach out to him,
Speaker 1: you know when I feel about Spade for you just
Speaker 1: in case, you know, to celebrate your album. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, you know, yeah, you know. I
Speaker 1: reach out when I when I feel like he can
Speaker 1: add something to the add something to the song that
Speaker 1: I just can't do. And and it was dope because
Speaker 1: you've got the guys got the premiere on our Heart
Speaker 1: every hour on the hour. So the person didn't like y'all,
Speaker 1: they got, they got to not like your more because
Speaker 1: every hour on. I mean explain that to an artist,
Speaker 1: you gonna be right back into the album. But is
Speaker 1: that like a plus when you could be able to
Speaker 1: just go straight out of the gate and get it
Speaker 1: on on on the radio because of you know, who
Speaker 1: you are and the person you have on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think that. Um. I think that. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, when when you can when you can get
Speaker 1: a record on radio and and people and it gets
Speaker 1: that head start, that jump start. Um, you usually do
Speaker 1: that in trying to make sure that that record is
Speaker 1: gonna go like really you know, try to chart some
Speaker 1: on and so forth, and you still feel that radio
Speaker 1: has that impact day. Yeah, I think so. I think so.
Speaker 1: I think I think um, I think radio is very important. Um.
Speaker 1: I think for what it is that we do, man,
Speaker 1: we need to check off every box what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, like we need to check off
Speaker 1: every box. And that was that was something that like
Speaker 1: just out of respect of who it was on the song.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really fighting like nah, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I want people to get a song
Speaker 1: it needs that look, I mean, the profile of the
Speaker 1: of the artist on it, the features, you know, him
Speaker 1: and Forelis is too high for not to get that. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily make radio records, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then the video, it's gonna be like a headache
Speaker 1: the video. We we we're not gonna do a video,
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy video? You know what's crazy which
Speaker 1: people would appreciate if you was to do a video
Speaker 1: where you're not even in there. Oh no, we we
Speaker 1: we will do something like that. But I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, for people thinking we're gonna shoot like hovers
Speaker 1: coming to sit on a set video, It's not happening.
Speaker 1: It's not happening. Yeah, which I mean me, I would
Speaker 1: have shot it in his house, you know, just so
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. But nah, but you know, end
Speaker 1: of the day, man, I think that I think that
Speaker 1: record had the impact and it and it talked to
Speaker 1: our core, my core and his core. I think they're
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah. Yeah, so let's move on to the
Speaker 1: next record just so you remember, Yeah, just so you
Speaker 1: remember who you're dealing with. That's uh, that's the rap
Speaker 1: moment on the album to me, like the heavy rat moment,
Speaker 1: uh stripped down beat and you know, it's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite records, but it stayed in more of that
Speaker 1: mixtape lane. You know, M just barring out, barring out.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how how many how many lines
Speaker 1: it is, but it's a lot. Okay, let's go to
Speaker 1: the next record, Diet Coke, Diet Coke. Here's the question
Speaker 1: I asked about this. What did y'all call Joey Crack?
Speaker 1: And before this, no, we just sampled him. He got
Speaker 1: to hear it with us, like, um, like damn, you
Speaker 1: know what somebody might have told him, Okay maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: but we dropped as a single, so you gotta clear it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so probably in the clearance process he he knew,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but yeah, the record was done and he
Speaker 1: was like, nah, you gotta put Joe Crack. In fact,
Speaker 1: Joe on the front of that though Yesterday's prey. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like, I gotta start like that. That's that's
Speaker 1: to me, is is Jay's biggest um you know his
Speaker 1: um Yeah, that's where his genius comes from. His instincts.
Speaker 1: Like it's fast, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: when when whenever he's in the moment and his musically
Speaker 1: and his instincts kick in, You're definitely gonna get a
Speaker 1: gem out of like what it is that that he's
Speaker 1: trying to make or create for you for him who
Speaker 1: said black and white video and he's gonna dance like
Speaker 1: that's the whole, the whole thing. He saw the whole
Speaker 1: He saw the listen to listen, change my outfit. I
Speaker 1: didn't have on the leather he wanted me to have
Speaker 1: on the leather I had on like some type of veg. Nah,
Speaker 1: you need the leather to Craig mac big pocket. You
Speaker 1: know you got to have it. But but yeah, like
Speaker 1: he um, he saw the whole vision for that. And
Speaker 1: once the record was done, the video was shot the
Speaker 1: next day. So he was like, no, y'all get in here,
Speaker 1: y'all go, you to find a space, go do it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know eight nine was on set. This
Speaker 1: is definitely m budget. Yeah your face, yeah, just now, okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, where were you want to ask this one?
Speaker 1: Rock and roll? Rock and roll heard it's a perfect day,
Speaker 1: perfect day. Everybody was there, smoked up. I just do
Speaker 1: that out there, ain't I don't know that pot. Everyone
Speaker 1: was cutty, justself robbed in the studio. Ja, it's already,
Speaker 1: this is already down. This is a perfect day, perfect record. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you know, um, just really good day. Um. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He just was like he got on the NPC and
Speaker 1: start chopping the Beyonce one plus one sample and you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, Cutty came through. Um, the only thing
Speaker 1: he couldn't find. Yeah, but the only thing you couldn't
Speaker 1: find on that day, um was the drums. And so
Speaker 1: you know it takes me a second just to write anyway.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, by the time he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: sending this to Farrell, let him put his drums on it.
Speaker 1: So that's the only record they worked on collaborating. That's
Speaker 1: the only record it was because of that, because he
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out the drums. Yeah, I mean, he just
Speaker 1: he just didn't have like I remember just going through
Speaker 1: drums and none of it was hitting to his liking.
Speaker 1: None of it was hitting to his liking. And he
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, send this to send this to p like,
Speaker 1: tell him put his drums on it. Because had he
Speaker 1: not figured had he figured out the drums, it might
Speaker 1: have been a collaborative record, right right, It wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to be Like he he'd be in
Speaker 1: the moment lack of a better term for back then,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be like a side B side, right,
Speaker 1: was it? That's supposed to be to be Okay, for sure,
Speaker 1: that's good for this this next record. I feel like,
Speaker 1: and let's be so we're not getting the kid cutting
Speaker 1: and Kanye video, and if we do get it, it's
Speaker 1: could be in separate rooms because that can still I
Speaker 1: would like, I mean, listen to performing really well, so
Speaker 1: I think we should. I mean I talked to I
Speaker 1: talked to Cutty yesterday and just was like telling them
Speaker 1: how how crazy this song is doing. He's like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, I know I love that record. This isn't
Speaker 1: that so master to this time? You know what? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think I think should do it. They
Speaker 1: don't have to be in the same we've we've done it,
Speaker 1: We've done this. They don't gotta be yeah cool, let's
Speaker 1: go to the next one. For some reason, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is one of your top three or the
Speaker 1: album Call my Bluff, Yeah, call my bluff, Just call
Speaker 1: my bluff for sure is top three for me. Um
Speaker 1: simply because it was it was work, it was real work,
Speaker 1: and again it was like you know again me taking
Speaker 1: direction and like you know, really hopping in the character
Speaker 1: and really just trying to execute, um, execute what it
Speaker 1: is that P wanted me to, you know what what
Speaker 1: he feels is gonna level me up musically. Um man.
Speaker 1: You know, the the whole idea of the record um
Speaker 1: came from. I thought I was gonna have an issue
Speaker 1: with somebody, right, and I was telling, I was telling
Speaker 1: for real about it, and my man had called me,
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, you know I heard it
Speaker 1: about you know it might be something blas blah blah.
Speaker 1: He was like, well, you know, his girl be trying
Speaker 1: to fuck me all the time. And he was like
Speaker 1: he was like yeah, she'd be in my DMO room.
Speaker 1: Like he was like yeah all the time. He said,
Speaker 1: So I'm a sucker, he's I'm a taper. He said,
Speaker 1: we don't have fun with it. We can't have fun,
Speaker 1: like we canna have fun with this whole ship because
Speaker 1: he was kill him right. And then he was like
Speaker 1: and you know, and and and if you go crazy,
Speaker 1: but if if you get crazy or whatever. He sent
Speaker 1: me to addresses. He was like, you know, it can
Speaker 1: go ever I thought about it. I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: like I'm not even on it, like like I'm not,
Speaker 1: I ain't even tripping like that. But I knew it myself, like, yo,
Speaker 1: if I even entertain this. I was excited about it
Speaker 1: the first and then I was like, if I entertained it,
Speaker 1: this is a false that I can't really turn off
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna play at all. So um, needless
Speaker 1: to say, I told I was telling pe about it,
Speaker 1: and that's where the the nonchalant and I can get
Speaker 1: it done. I can't have that, can have it happened
Speaker 1: that joker energy, nonchalant. You know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 1: it's my way. If I really wanted to be my way. Um,
Speaker 1: attitude comes from in the joint. I wouldn't have thought that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the real backstory, all right. So
Speaker 1: scrap it off, scrape it off the tail, scrape it
Speaker 1: off the top. I just man, the record was the
Speaker 1: track of so was was fun. That's that's your radio
Speaker 1: record to me, you think so to me, to me,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to see you in, motherfucking and Grilla,
Speaker 1: Oh mangoes on the y'all chair, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: I think I think that that's it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's fired. I mean, listen, it's performing crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like Oozy is the king of the youth for real.
Speaker 1: I feel like Don Tolliver is um when it comes
Speaker 1: to the melodies. I can't go on my Explore page
Speaker 1: and ain't a girl putting on makeup to Don Tolliver's music. Wow, fire,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He just he he's talking
Speaker 1: at that frequency that people rocking with girls are rocking with,
Speaker 1: so you you you could be right. I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta see how do these joints? You know how
Speaker 1: it turns out? Oh? Hear me clearly? Yeah, hear me clearly. Man,
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. This is this is real talk.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody here knows this. I probably started
Speaker 1: working with for a reale. I ain't the seven that
Speaker 1: had to be because it dropped the Remember back then,
Speaker 1: we had to record a year in evance right as
Speaker 1: much as I've ever been around, for as much as
Speaker 1: it gave me one of the first pair of babes,
Speaker 1: and I worried and everyone laughed at me because they
Speaker 1: said those look like freak up towns right to never
Speaker 1: one time, and it's all of these years, has Nego
Speaker 1: ever said Hi to me? Wow, God, we've been the same,
Speaker 1: we've been. I've never once He's never like said him.
Speaker 1: I might be just as guilty. Yeah, Like I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I might be just as guilty because I've
Speaker 1: never probably never said hi back because I never felt
Speaker 1: like I never felt like his energy permitted me to
Speaker 1: say hi. So all these years, all these I've never said.
Speaker 1: Me and Nigo have never spoke. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if you can speak English this, I've never seen him speak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, I can't even
Speaker 1: really speak to that. But I you know, I know
Speaker 1: that just with him, it's it's a respect thing and
Speaker 1: like just you know, respecting people's space and just it's
Speaker 1: just what they what they do over there anyway. So
Speaker 1: I mean, he's familiar, like we've met him. We've met
Speaker 1: him because of the music. Ye I heard the job
Speaker 1: mat him because of the jury, right, because because well
Speaker 1: he was a fan of the music and then found
Speaker 1: out that he was getting his jury done from from Jacob.
Speaker 1: So he would come and get everything he got in
Speaker 1: three colors with all the best diamonds every time. And
Speaker 1: that's you know that, that's who really made that connection
Speaker 1: as far as Nigo goes. So let's get that record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: break down that record. Oh man, hear me clearly, um um,
Speaker 1: one of the first records that I did, and you know,
Speaker 1: the beat just had a real um. It just spoke
Speaker 1: to me, and it spoke to the hot sixteen in me,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, just recently, my biggest regret
Speaker 1: from this album is Nas not being on this record,
Speaker 1: because I um, I did that that the one verse
Speaker 1: that I had on it, I sent it to Nas
Speaker 1: ages ago, ages ago. As soon as I got I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I want NOAs on this because I
Speaker 1: felt like, um, I know, I just felt like you
Speaker 1: would have killed it right, So they got quiet. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear from him for a long time or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I gave it to him so long ago that
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, you know, I gave him time.
Speaker 1: So I ran into him at Coake Man, the Korean steakhouse.
Speaker 1: But what is it? Quite? Cet? Yeah? Yeah, quit quite?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, no, don't. Let's all right, So
Speaker 1: so man, I ran into him. Man, He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's up in New York? In New York? Man, yeah
Speaker 1: he um Man. He brought out thousands of dollars worth
Speaker 1: for wagu and and and sent it over to the table,
Speaker 1: came over. We just talked about. I was like, Man,
Speaker 1: you know, I still want you on this record, I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I want you to be I said, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: this record out because by this time Paris Fashion weekn happen.
Speaker 1: They got the snippet it, it got all the hits
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I was like, but I want you
Speaker 1: to still be the last verse because I don't be
Speaker 1: the surprise on my album, like you know, because I'm
Speaker 1: putting the song on my album for sure what I
Speaker 1: was going for, know what I was doing, right, So
Speaker 1: so yeah, it just didn't happen. Man, it did not happen. Man,
Speaker 1: biggest regret, biggest regret of the album. Okay, moving on
Speaker 1: Open Air, Yeah, Open Air. I feel like open There
Speaker 1: was an answer to one of those records, and it
Speaker 1: was either an answer to Dreaming of the Past or
Speaker 1: was an answer to um to hear me clearly that
Speaker 1: was for real trying to get in his dark bag
Speaker 1: and um just you know, just trying to really just
Speaker 1: like man, you couldn't have all the hard records. You
Speaker 1: gotta show he could do it too. Okay, now the
Speaker 1: last one, the best one. You know what was crazy?
Speaker 1: Um When I first listened to it, I didn't look
Speaker 1: at the features on purpose. I wanted to just appreciate
Speaker 1: the music about. What I didn't want to do was
Speaker 1: to listen to it in order that you made sometimes
Speaker 1: they shuffle, so that what I kept doing was after
Speaker 1: I was playing it, I went back to the original
Speaker 1: playlist to make sure that it was it was correct,
Speaker 1: and you and your brother sounds so good together. I
Speaker 1: couldn't know. I couldn't really see where you started. And
Speaker 1: he finished that while so I sat back and saying
Speaker 1: oh Ship. Like like I said, I didn't look at it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he was doing that, and it
Speaker 1: just reminded me like, oh Ship. The young version of
Speaker 1: the clips I remember, you know, I remember the grinding
Speaker 1: video me me, me driving out there and me going
Speaker 1: to your hood and seeing like wow, but Jennie is
Speaker 1: really fucking the lood like like and it just but
Speaker 1: how hard I know you got a little brother card.
Speaker 1: I've been watching your interviews. But but still this album
Speaker 1: doesn't really represent what he represents. What I mean by
Speaker 1: that is, you know, he's a man of God. He's
Speaker 1: a man Like this wasn't like a Mace move, not
Speaker 1: taking a shot at Mace, but like this was like
Speaker 1: he really doving, Like follow him on Instagram. He has
Speaker 1: people that he preaches to. This is a real full
Speaker 1: fleshed thing. So how do you convince him? Like I said,
Speaker 1: you know, you got a little brother car but other
Speaker 1: than that, because it's like I know you're gonna say, well, well,
Speaker 1: well you got this other content on the here, So
Speaker 1: how do you convince him to do that? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't really convincing. I think my I
Speaker 1: think my brother is really he's really self aware. Like
Speaker 1: he knows. My brother knows he's like the realist. He
Speaker 1: knows he's the realist. So he can put him in
Speaker 1: any uh any situation and he just gonna beat him,
Speaker 1: do him. He don't, you know, he doesn't necessarily think
Speaker 1: that because he's on a record that has whatever type
Speaker 1: of content that you know, if if you let him
Speaker 1: tell it, he getting his message across his points from Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's competitive for him to he like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still dope, Like I'm dope, and I can
Speaker 1: be dope saying this, and I can be better than
Speaker 1: you saying it, like you know, that's it. So you
Speaker 1: know that that that record, Um, I think that record.
Speaker 1: Let everybody know that the possibility of doing Eclipse record
Speaker 1: would make a lot of people happy. And and you know,
Speaker 1: just just I don't know, I think that, like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it just be up to him. It's just up
Speaker 1: to him, like it ain't. It ain't even mean. So
Speaker 1: there's no more conversations from that record making it a reality.
Speaker 1: Funny funny thing is he hit me the other day like, oh,
Speaker 1: I see what they're saying. He hit me, hit me
Speaker 1: the other day. He's like, I see what they're saying.
Speaker 1: Ain't He was like, yo, I want you to change
Speaker 1: on the credits. Make sure it says malice not no malice. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I did. I did say no malice. It does. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's malice. It says malice. Hold on, it says malice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is this? Did I see? I pray no malice?
Speaker 1: But what is this though? Like that's oh yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: no on the actual look you no no, but I'm
Speaker 1: on another you got because come up schools cocaine. They
Speaker 1: list to cocaine. Google's love You. Yeah, we would be crazy.
Speaker 1: Though you guys pulled off an album together. You can
Speaker 1: that duality can exist. It would be so crazy if
Speaker 1: you work together too long. This is what I remember.
Speaker 1: I remember do from my Hoodie passed away, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to um, but um he was. He told me.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, I want to get on right.
Speaker 1: He was like, so I want to. I want to
Speaker 1: diss you. And I was like, diss me? What sisters
Speaker 1: that man? He was like no, because you're the biggest artist.
Speaker 1: So if I diss you, I'll get attention. So I said,
Speaker 1: all right, cue, you know what we're doing. Let's let's
Speaker 1: let's do it on the same record. You dissed me.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be able to go. But I'm gonna sorry.
Speaker 1: I really raped. And it made me think about that
Speaker 1: because it was too opposite opinions. And I was like,
Speaker 1: but he never got to do it. He passed away.
Speaker 1: But I think of that when I think of you
Speaker 1: and your brother, like you're not changing nothing, nothing, and
Speaker 1: they're not changing, and if the opposite of opinion, but
Speaker 1: it's it's where you guys, you know, correlating when you
Speaker 1: guys go down the same train. You know, even in
Speaker 1: my solo, in my solo career, I still know the difference.
Speaker 1: I still know what I'm missing. Like that's the one
Speaker 1: thing I have not been able to really pinpoint for,
Speaker 1: like you know, to to to to sort of give
Speaker 1: to the fans. I know, like the fact of me
Speaker 1: being solo and not being able to really channel and
Speaker 1: tap in. I know what the fan is missing when
Speaker 1: they just hear me and don't hear him. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I really really do, And you know
Speaker 1: it's something. It's something I used to you know, I
Speaker 1: really used to try really hard to do. But still
Speaker 1: to this day, Um, I still don't. I don't hit
Speaker 1: the vein. I don't hit the vein properly when they
Speaker 1: come to that. He was wrapping before you, my brother
Speaker 1: five years older than me. He's been rapping being everything.
Speaker 1: Do we have a church? No, we need to. We
Speaker 1: need to. We need to hip hop, need to build
Speaker 1: Oh a church, yeah, malice church, he'd kill it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to. We need because UM, Like there's certain
Speaker 1: people who I want to pray all me. Uh be
Speaker 1: like Rev run DMX. Yeah, bro, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, pray for me, like if I was a thing,
Speaker 1: because I believe in him. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I believe I wanted to do a song with my
Speaker 1: brother that had been crazy, that had been crazy. You're
Speaker 1: a relationship with X correct? Okay, Yeah that was that
Speaker 1: was That was a big hold. So we're gonna move
Speaker 1: on right now. By the way, congratulations once again to
Speaker 1: for the album, gratulations for making a masterpiece. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and say it's a classic. Thank you. Gonna
Speaker 1: wait for the team you know how everyone else. It's
Speaker 1: definitely a classic. And I'm very glad that you didn't
Speaker 1: let Kanye slack. You didn't let for Real slack because
Speaker 1: he's a both very rich people. Before we on the
Speaker 1: Creek time with slide. Yeah you do that. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the watch question. You probably don't even care.
Speaker 1: I probably don't even care. Who got the best watch
Speaker 1: game in the game, for real, for real, for real, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about everybody. I mean, man, it might be
Speaker 1: who we have the most expensive watches, a most expensive
Speaker 1: right right, Okay, but no, man, I mean he is
Speaker 1: he strong, he is corect Let me just tell you
Speaker 1: some he was weird Richard Milly's when I thought I
Speaker 1: was That's what I'm getting. I'm talking about. Let me
Speaker 1: talking about first world. We talk about first you gotta really,
Speaker 1: it ain't a lot that he ain't first that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's it's I mean, war Burgers out here disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Who was that Mark Warburg Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: discussed out here foot and ship too. Yeah. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we all got a six million dollar joint from the
Speaker 1: Moon with the with the with the Moon dusting or something.
Speaker 1: And I was going to you know, you know, like
Speaker 1: we came up together. You can't even say that with
Speaker 1: that watch, like I was gonna take that. Lord, listen,
Speaker 1: he got all the what I mean, and you know
Speaker 1: he only doing the yeah, the one he got a
Speaker 1: new Richard Millie with the Cuban link band from Richard Miller. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: excuse me, he calls him richild Yeah, Richard to bed rest,
Speaker 1: saying for real, top one jay Z most expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, listen, I ain't gonna lie Jabe Albert.
Speaker 1: I said his name correct his time here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's he's he's heavy too. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that like when when I'm when I'm considering that, you
Speaker 1: know the game I'm talking about, like, man, when you
Speaker 1: I feel like Farrell put a lot of people on
Speaker 1: to things. You know what I'm saying. We're talking about
Speaker 1: the watches right now, but even that, I feel like
Speaker 1: he put people on. Um, you know, it'll be a
Speaker 1: back and forth. I mean, bro, look how far hip
Speaker 1: hop is coming. Everybody's a billionaire every day, so it
Speaker 1: can be a new a new most expensive watch every day.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know, when you look at
Speaker 1: who is like, okay, people following culturally like what he did,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, I feel like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: he's he's like one of those, definitely one of the ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah him, Drake is outside too. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't follow you. I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: your face is spression. I'm sorry. He's pretty ill too.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, but you said for in your book for
Speaker 1: number one watch guy. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna play a
Speaker 1: game right now. It's called quick Time with Slim. Sure,
Speaker 1: you're familiar with it, let's do it. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: you a post choice once or other if you um.
Speaker 1: If you pick both, you take a shot for it.
Speaker 1: If you're not drinking, we can have somebody come in
Speaker 1: and dream. We got Mr Lead come in and drink
Speaker 1: for you if you're not drinking. Because he's been on
Speaker 1: your album. I can tell you I did cocaine deals together.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing out the Dominicans. Definitely get cocaine Virginia.
Speaker 1: It's definitely cocaine. I just know I remember did. But
Speaker 1: if you want you to do that, because I heard
Speaker 1: you drink, you drink deadly or you drink the black
Speaker 1: man we drinking? You got someone drinking? Man, you got
Speaker 1: someone drinking from you. No, I know I have nobody
Speaker 1: drinking from me because one more day after Dan, I'm trying,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying. I'm only make them one day.
Speaker 1: The one day. But you drink me. Okay, you personal sunny,
Speaker 1: come in. I don't like being too sober and ship.
Speaker 1: It's like you don't like to put on the headband
Speaker 1: for this. Okay, this one off top, can you get him?
Speaker 1: I'm a cup this one off top, get give sunny. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you off top, I'm picking somebody every time,
Speaker 1: so it don't matter. So we're not so we're not
Speaker 1: drinking what you're saying. I'm thinking somebody every time kills.
Speaker 1: It was day they didn't they picked somebody ever, but
Speaker 1: it was crazy but it wasn't. And I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you one. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. One time you called me he
Speaker 1: was disappointed and you no, no, for real, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. In fact, it was a six o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning call. I remember where I was at, and
Speaker 1: you you taught me something. You talked, you didn't you
Speaker 1: didn't know this. I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 1: but you taught me something. This is when we first
Speaker 1: came up with I don't want right no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no, no, no no no. I
Speaker 1: didn't want you to the quick time with slid. I
Speaker 1: had wished you didn't air you know when you had
Speaker 1: to go back and forth. So I remember you called it.
Speaker 1: You said, I'm in the middle of making this album.
Speaker 1: And we almost damn there in the middle of the
Speaker 1: wall with this guy. And he had to be literally
Speaker 1: correct because I believe the ass of quick time and
Speaker 1: slide was pushed or drake and for real said he
Speaker 1: drank for he drank for it. And it was like
Speaker 1: he's being politically correct. And it was the first time
Speaker 1: I ever like like you, even like not mad. But
Speaker 1: he was disappointed, like wait in a minute, hopeful this
Speaker 1: motherfucker making my help. He couldn't pick me. I never
Speaker 1: see me most Yeah, is that because because I there's
Speaker 1: a cold of the streets right where you're my man.
Speaker 1: I'm with you right or wrong, But I also tell
Speaker 1: you when you're wrong. Oh yeah, I do that. Why
Speaker 1: did you feel like not betrayed? I don't want that.
Speaker 1: That's a wrong answer. Why didn't you think for all answered?
Speaker 1: He didn't answer that question correct because there is no
Speaker 1: wrong when they comes to me and p R, it's
Speaker 1: just you're right. I don't care, and that's just what
Speaker 1: it is like, That's just what it is like, even
Speaker 1: when you're wrong. He could be the wrongest person in
Speaker 1: this room right now. He's right there and you're wrong.
Speaker 1: But that's how I go. Yeah, like that's just what
Speaker 1: it is. But I will say this though, like you,
Speaker 1: he's sitting in front of you, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and like and he got he you know, he's sitting
Speaker 1: in front of you, and you're the same, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm thinking, I expect for real
Speaker 1: to be politically correct. Until you gave me that point
Speaker 1: of view. Was like, yo, I'm in the middle of
Speaker 1: making the album. Now he's producing it. I don't need
Speaker 1: that type of I wanted him to say, you know me, like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I didn't look at
Speaker 1: I didn't look at every single you know, you know
Speaker 1: on the chess board with the pond moves a little
Speaker 1: bit and no one really just picks it up that
Speaker 1: that that little move at the pond makes matters to
Speaker 1: later on. Every move matters, yes, speaking every move, that's
Speaker 1: what people do know. Every move matters, Every move matters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every move matters, Every move matters. Yes, right, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're getting into quick time slie. And by the way,
Speaker 1: so you know your friend Mr Lee right this to
Speaker 1: to to crash people up, so he definitely probably did
Speaker 1: this for you. Alright, cool, you ready that this is
Speaker 1: either artist whichever way you want, the puff man should child.
Speaker 1: That's right, he's making an album and ship. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't even let me hear it because he said
Speaker 1: to blow it up. Um um, Kanye or for real,
Speaker 1: for real, I'm stuck, okay, Jada Kiss or fabulous Jada
Speaker 1: Swiss Beasts or Timberland Swiss. I'm not gonna ask why.
Speaker 1: Oh I mean you know, I'm just you know, Swiss
Speaker 1: made money cash holes. I'm done money cash, hold money,
Speaker 1: cash premre p rock shit your shot? No, um, Primo
Speaker 1: made dwait Premo. Okay, ain't you taking a shot to
Speaker 1: change a big sean to change that? The best verse
Speaker 1: on Mercy? Okay, that's how's verds go? How's good pirds go?
Speaker 1: How's no already? Remember? Come on, come on to change
Speaker 1: the best verse on Mercy? Remember a little bit? All right?
Speaker 1: K arrests or rock him fuck man? Shot. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking a shot. I'm a pick I'm a peak one.
Speaker 1: But but you have to take a shot out of
Speaker 1: that taking a shot. Who do you think both both?
Speaker 1: I would man, that's that's tough. Um. Both were game
Speaker 1: changers at that time. Yeah, so both I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: because I still see I like, right this very second, no, no,
Speaker 1: because right this very second, I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like CA arrests still could sit in front of me
Speaker 1: and rhyme is old me and everybody at this table
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, but
Speaker 1: rock Him, rock Him definitely had more of an impact
Speaker 1: on me, just culturally, Like I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't ever noticed rock Him. Don't even curse, right,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, just crazy. I don't I muna say both
Speaker 1: forget it, okay, okay, but I ain't scared to say
Speaker 1: either one okay, yeah, O d B or bisin Markey,
Speaker 1: bisin Mokey pretty pretty much they was in the same
Speaker 1: category too, right, Like, if it wasn't like a B,
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be an OLDB. Like comedy I love yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely love it on Have you been approached to
Speaker 1: do versus O? No? I don't think so, right, you
Speaker 1: know some of you interested in not really now, not
Speaker 1: right now. I'm still like I'm still competing right now
Speaker 1: in the right right now, and I'm still like trying
Speaker 1: to like I don't even want to go. I'm working
Speaker 1: on the next album now, like right this second, at
Speaker 1: the third and fourth for whatever days I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be in the studio. I actually canceled studio today. So nah,
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to We're gonna see, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: how far this really really go. And I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to reminisce about nothing. That's why. Okay, so you ain't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're saying basically you're not you're not interested in versus
Speaker 1: right now. No, No, even if the bag is hefty,
Speaker 1: I mean the bag stupid who but but like, no,
Speaker 1: versus is something I like. It's something I like and
Speaker 1: something I like to watching, something that I'm into. So
Speaker 1: bag wise, I wasn't even thinking. I'm like, I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: you just asked me on something like you know, you
Speaker 1: know it kind of it's kind of like, um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know obviously you know. But DJ Cassidy
Speaker 1: he has this thing called Past Past the Mike what
Speaker 1: I lovely she's been asking you to ask me to
Speaker 1: do it, but but he names it nineties rappers, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't want to be there, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: a two hip hop media motherfucking mogul. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be label the fucking nineties rapper. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: it's just it. You ain't doing that. You just yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't want to remember. I don't
Speaker 1: remember that. Basically what what me and you were saying
Speaker 1: the same dialect in a different way and a different vernacular.
Speaker 1: But because you don't like, you don't want, you still
Speaker 1: perform grinding? I do. I will still perform grinding. I
Speaker 1: don't perform much else though. Okay, you know I um,
Speaker 1: I still performed grinding, right because I went to a
Speaker 1: camera show and he didn't perform horsting carriage. I was mad.
Speaker 1: I was upset. I wanted horse in carriage and three
Speaker 1: five seven, Oh yeah, yeah you would, Yeah you would,
Speaker 1: I would. I wanted. I wanted that. I never told
Speaker 1: him that probably um okay, boom you ready. Boys in
Speaker 1: the hood of mister society, Um, boys in the hood? Okay,
Speaker 1: boys in the hood. That's um though, that's right. As
Speaker 1: a society is Lorenz Tate and boys first asat Rocky
Speaker 1: or Travis Scott asad Rocky that very fast, sir, I
Speaker 1: mean black them both, but Rocky because a lot of
Speaker 1: people say that Rocky is like the originator. Oh I
Speaker 1: don't even compare to to I just you know, Rocky's
Speaker 1: taste level is just a one like super high. I
Speaker 1: think Travis makes dope records. I think there's something, um
Speaker 1: it's really classic about Rocky that I yes, we Rocky too. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: you got the next one? No, I don't have pulled
Speaker 1: up when you up? Did you tell me it's I
Speaker 1: got to type in my code because because people be
Speaker 1: telling me my cod be switching by every week, they
Speaker 1: like your cold? This is once before? How the fun
Speaker 1: do they see this ship on the end of that?
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know, stop doing that. Hey, I've learned,
Speaker 1: uh saw how the Prince or Rome fest mm hmm.
Speaker 1: They've both been a part of history, and let'na say both. Okay,
Speaker 1: we respect that. We gotta take the shot. Buddy take
Speaker 1: the shot. I'm follow sleep him, Brophtory. They both they've
Speaker 1: both been done some very very incredible things and been
Speaker 1: a part of a lot of like legacy ship Like
Speaker 1: I can't even front on them either one. Okay, ready, yep,
Speaker 1: Big or Big Part Big Pun? The reason why are
Speaker 1: you Big Pun? Big Pun made twins? It's crazy? Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody doing in the middle A little first to the
Speaker 1: specific track that he's thinking in his mind at that moment.
Speaker 1: I love the fan version of I can just see.
Speaker 1: It's just like a totally different thing to you. Okay,
Speaker 1: Pablo escotball or l Chopol. Mr Lee wants to know.
Speaker 1: Definitely Mr. Least he would put Mr leave. But Pablo Escobar,
Speaker 1: Pablo Esco, he was first. Nah, it's not because he
Speaker 1: was first, but um does zoo? I mean Chopper might
Speaker 1: have gone further, you know, you know what because I
Speaker 1: get you know what it is. I get um, I get.
Speaker 1: I get family vibes out of Pablo, like I got
Speaker 1: to see you know, when you hear about it, when
Speaker 1: you when they talk about them, you see like oh man,
Speaker 1: he loved his kids and things like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You don't. You don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: that type of ventel with Chap. Yeah, I don't know tasketball, horses,
Speaker 1: cocaine and everything like information, Which is what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is it's a real thing. Like I feel like people
Speaker 1: to hear about the you know, then they'll think, you know,
Speaker 1: just like some type of tyrant. But it was dope
Speaker 1: to to get some of that insight that like he was,
Speaker 1: he was kind of like a family man, and and
Speaker 1: that and that, uh, that picture the icon it's an
Speaker 1: iconic picture him and his child in front of the
Speaker 1: White House tourists. Bro, how can you know who doesn't
Speaker 1: have that? I got that picture with my pops too.
Speaker 1: The same exact one was like, Okay, Missy or eve Missy, Missy?
Speaker 1: What's the only? Mr Mean? Stop Missy over everybody? How
Speaker 1: about that? You think Missy could be a bust of
Speaker 1: rhymes and Missy Missy untouchable, bust the rhymes though verse,
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going with Missy. I'm Missy from Virginia.
Speaker 1: Is your only? Mr? Mean? I'm going with Missy. I'm
Speaker 1: the mighty, influencing, incredible, go god level Missy. She's gonna
Speaker 1: come up with rain drop. Listen, let's play video for video.
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Up? What I got back? Listen?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm standing on it. I'm gonna stay I'm
Speaker 1: gonna staying on Missy wind losing drawers whatever, but incredible
Speaker 1: world since they and they gotta do by visual too,
Speaker 1: because they have you can't just do you know? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Mrs motherfucker yeah, we
Speaker 1: need you. They got Diddy or Stephen Victor, but they
Speaker 1: don't know you like I know you. So I'm taking
Speaker 1: Diddy out of there, and I'm putting Bob Walker or
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor. Man. Man, No, I ain't drinking. I'm not, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, um Man, you know I love
Speaker 1: them both. We're going on vacation, all of us together,
Speaker 1: just recently. I mean just you know, coming up soon.
Speaker 1: But man, Stephen Victor, man, dog, we're going. We're going.
Speaker 1: We'll lose a draw. We're gonna listen down together the
Speaker 1: worst times to the best times. That's what it is, y'all.
Speaker 1: Billboard Magazine and gloves on for sure. And I mean
Speaker 1: you know and and and and Rob. Rob didn't manage
Speaker 1: me at one time, but you know, uh Pharrell at
Speaker 1: Farrell and Chad that was there. That was there, Stephen Victor,
Speaker 1: Rob and he managed all of us, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it was and he was the one
Speaker 1: to them. Stephen is the one to me. So I'm
Speaker 1: going Stephen, okay, but you know, you know right, let's go, yeah,
Speaker 1: drink to that drink as Stephen Victor, that's was here,
Speaker 1: he was here with Sean Yep, Yeah, definitely. I want
Speaker 1: to go to believes for no reason, I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, yeah, I was gonna put a flight to beliefs.
Speaker 1: I don't know this is a sub but for no reason.
Speaker 1: But I looked at my fucking Instagram and it's like
Speaker 1: beliefs pot. I was like, I'm gonna just go. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna figure out the sign is there later, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was just gonn. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just felt like just going, like I said, And
Speaker 1: then my friend hit me season Antigua. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, one of these things, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: for one day and just just go, just like fly
Speaker 1: in six am and then fly back out. Remember, do
Speaker 1: some dumb ship like that. I'll tell you, Uh, Jake
Speaker 1: Cole or Kendrick Um j Cole or Kendrick. I'm going
Speaker 1: with Kendrake. I've been going with Kendrake. Wow, okay, nineties
Speaker 1: verse two thousand's nineties verse two thousands. Just give me
Speaker 1: two thousands, take a two thousands, Just tell him no, no, no,
Speaker 1: what it is two thousand. Yeah, you're saying all the
Speaker 1: nineties versus a Musically John, like the nineties you got
Speaker 1: you got criss Cross jump right now. We oh, we
Speaker 1: got WoT we got uh, we got great kin, we
Speaker 1: got mob d fuck. Oh yeah, you know it's nineties.
Speaker 1: But clips. We have clips in the two thousands. We
Speaker 1: got clips in two thousands, and we got trapper Divegez
Speaker 1: in the two thousand. You know, that's the fucking grail
Speaker 1: some of the great But you got reasonable doubt nineties six,
Speaker 1: I'm done. It's ninety about eighties verse nineties based on
Speaker 1: what you've been saying to mom, d ruined my life? Prodigy?
Speaker 1: Did get Richard died trying? Or Port of Miami? Get
Speaker 1: Richard died trying? Or Port of Miami both the first
Speaker 1: both Rick Cross and get rich trying. Yeah, Biggie or
Speaker 1: jay Z, take a shot something the fucking coming Nah,
Speaker 1: Like you can't answer it, man, you can't answer it.
Speaker 1: Take a shot. Okay, No, But I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I really do. I really do. You might think I'm
Speaker 1: a whole or something person. I actually it's just it's
Speaker 1: just like it's just like the bar said on your
Speaker 1: he said, if Big was alive in this position, if
Speaker 1: would have survived, would have got the right, col okay,
Speaker 1: this one, I don't know where you can go with this?
Speaker 1: Was that because I don't know if we ever ever.
Speaker 1: I know you met one of them, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you met the other one. Tupaca d MX, Tupaca,
Speaker 1: DM Max. I'm gonna go with d M Max bro right, Um,
Speaker 1: you know I ain't. I didn't see Poc. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't get the I didn't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I didn't see him. I mean his of course music impactful,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But I went to the
Speaker 1: concert where they cried like this. Yeah. I went to
Speaker 1: Rough Riday and uh cash money, cash money and Rough Riday.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, And um, you know, you know that's
Speaker 1: something that this funked up with me because of music.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember dating ship good like nothing,
Speaker 1: I remember nothing. I can't. I can't my time, my
Speaker 1: time friends that it's got vitamins. But um, but also
Speaker 1: also I muna say that, um, you know, exchanged music
Speaker 1: and what was music like crazily to me? Like like
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I love big everything going on,
Speaker 1: bad boy boom boom and then he come with the
Speaker 1: dog calling no shirt blacking, you know, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it was like then he came and he rob Um,
Speaker 1: he did two songs, did two albums, and nine months
Speaker 1: um he started Hell's Hellt's and then Flesh in My Flesh.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm slipping right yeah yeah, like bro yeah just
Speaker 1: for me just in the impact was something visible and
Speaker 1: had a record a ciscar at the same time. No,
Speaker 1: and and what's that the Alia joint? Yeah, like it's
Speaker 1: too much no hype man? Yeah yeah, performer. Now this
Speaker 1: next one, I don't know where you're gonna go because
Speaker 1: I think this is definitely a doublet for you, major
Speaker 1: or independent because when you owning your masters right now,
Speaker 1: you're a major independent right No, yeah, but but um,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with the label a label as a partner. I
Speaker 1: don't get that check. Yeah, like I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: And especially if you don't got the arms too to
Speaker 1: facilitate everything you need to be as an independent, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm speaking. I'm speaking on this because I'm from
Speaker 1: a place where independence never happened, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I'm from Virginia. We never had the infrastructure to
Speaker 1: make some independent common Wealth. Right, but we never just
Speaker 1: had the infrastructure to like but you've never experienced independent
Speaker 1: stuff really Yeah? Well well no, I mean you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I look, Tony Draper was my manager.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that's independent. But some of the some
Speaker 1: of the perks of amajors, like you said, you were
Speaker 1: out there, got the hard work out a jay Z
Speaker 1: feature probably probably wouldn't be able to get the video,
Speaker 1: but you got this and the perks will being an
Speaker 1: amazing people have it played or fifty seven markets per
Speaker 1: hour just you gotta be an estimated at least fifty
Speaker 1: seven million people have heard neck and Rest because of
Speaker 1: the purse of a major. Yeah, it's given take Remember
Speaker 1: it's o versus versus the machine, and it's both. There's
Speaker 1: no wronger, right, yeah, there's no there's no wronger. Right.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this. Um, I don't know, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, so we're
Speaker 1: taking a shot. I don't take a shot, Okay, now
Speaker 1: this is I'm not mad at either one though. To
Speaker 1: be honest with you, if you if you got the
Speaker 1: arms to be independent, then it's go. You should. But
Speaker 1: if you don't. It's a successful on a major for
Speaker 1: for sure. For sure, kick cut a comment, kick cutting
Speaker 1: Conway or Bitty the Butcher. Shit, m taking a shot?
Speaker 1: All right? Cool, I'm not taking them shots. Damn. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Conway. I'm gonna go with Conway. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep putting these two together,
Speaker 1: but they did it with their albums, but now we're
Speaker 1: gonna do it for them individually. Rick Ross a fat
Speaker 1: Joe Um Rick Ross yeh, Teddy Riley, go ahead, baby face,
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley? Care what happened? A funk? What happened? It's
Speaker 1: t go ahead. He's definitely gonna his last name don
Speaker 1: to Oliver, don Toliver Oliver or little Boosie Burke. God
Speaker 1: nah nah um yeah, I'm gonna take a shot. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna take a shot, all right. Uh. New
Speaker 1: Jack City, original Gangster New Jack City. A lot of
Speaker 1: people have been saying New Jack City, okay, d C
Speaker 1: or l A d C or l A d C
Speaker 1: d C or Miami d C d C or Denver
Speaker 1: d C. No, No, no, listen, you know you know
Speaker 1: actually where I'm from. I'm three hours away from these
Speaker 1: well now I got a house up there now, and like,
Speaker 1: but I just, man, I'm just very mid Atlantic, East
Speaker 1: Coast level. That's where I'm the most comfortable with everything. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't I haven't taken a flight since
Speaker 1: I was living in Maryland in that area. I haven't
Speaker 1: taken a flight to New York. I never took a flight.
Speaker 1: And I would all ways get on the train and
Speaker 1: just uh you know, take the train from DC to
Speaker 1: New York just to like see the different like just
Speaker 1: the different areas I was going through, and and and
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And it's like I really
Speaker 1: got to identify who I'm talking to, that East Coast
Speaker 1: level of sophistication. You know what I'm saying that I
Speaker 1: know exactly where my raps is going at. Anybody else
Speaker 1: is cool, but who gravitates to it? But I know
Speaker 1: exactly that d C, Baltimore, uh, Philly, Maryland, you know it? Atlantic? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean state too, right, No
Speaker 1: state is when you get there US. It's not DMV,
Speaker 1: no DMV. But but d m V. D m V
Speaker 1: has never uh d m V has never included uh
Speaker 1: where I'm from. DNA Beach seven five seven area code
Speaker 1: that Hampton and never we were our own things. We are,
Speaker 1: We've been our own thing. Richmond be the own thing.
Speaker 1: And then d m V was DC Maryland and Northern Virginia. Okay,
Speaker 1: so um, let's be clear. Virginia is the East Coast. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it was in the South. This is a
Speaker 1: big debate. Well, no, no, it is. Technically it is.
Speaker 1: It was the capital of the Confederacy. No for but no,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he meant that technically the South.
Speaker 1: But in the music sense, in a music sense, the
Speaker 1: dirty South never adopted Virginia, and d C no, no,
Speaker 1: no no adopted Virginia. Well, New York, the New York
Speaker 1: adopted Virginia during the late eighties. You don't think Teddy
Speaker 1: really turned into Virginia. I feel like he into that's
Speaker 1: what we're saying. I don't think he zoom zoom zoom
Speaker 1: in the room. Poom yeah jove into pop phone. I
Speaker 1: do remember that video, don't saying to get I got
Speaker 1: almost guaranteed. I jerked video. That's two much of Amazon.
Speaker 1: You needn't drink that Wow Soper nor out no one Sofa.
Speaker 1: That's all the year before. What do you mean that's
Speaker 1: a clessant record. That's a clus That's what mean. It's
Speaker 1: like Dwick almost in a sense, you know, like a
Speaker 1: summer record that's never forever, YoY came before do it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a classic summer record. Yes, it
Speaker 1: made me want to like I always wanted to have
Speaker 1: a video like that. I never got one girl. He
Speaker 1: got chill him full of dudes, I drink off. He's
Speaker 1: crazy and he's sober. The motherfucker. I don't want you.
Speaker 1: That was podcast radio um podcast almatic or ready to
Speaker 1: Die Illmatic or ready to die Almatic, styles Pe or
Speaker 1: cameraon styles P camera styles Pe. Oh you say you
Speaker 1: was answering styles Pe might be in my top five
Speaker 1: to three dogs just of like consistency, hard lyricism. Um
Speaker 1: even gets a little conscious, Yeah, but scary conscious, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, scolding conscious, Like he's in my top
Speaker 1: he's like he's been and been there for a long
Speaker 1: long time. Ray Kwan or ghost face Ray Kwan of
Speaker 1: course his hats because he is the Purple tape. Purple
Speaker 1: tape change niggers Like, yeah, now let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: If the Purple Tape would have said ghost face features
Speaker 1: because yeah, but I said break feature and ghost face,
Speaker 1: So I gotta go with Cypress Hills or Onyx Cypress
Speaker 1: Hill used to Cypress Hills Cyper's Hill Still n WA
Speaker 1: or Wu Tank Plan Um moutane Clan deep or MP
Speaker 1: mob mob Deep over everybody, Mob Deep over clips Mob
Speaker 1: Deep mob Deep. Loyalty or respect loyalty? Why you don't
Speaker 1: guta respect me? You don't got too? It's cool, I don't.
Speaker 1: I respect you and I respect me. But if you're loyal,
Speaker 1: that means you're that close to me. That means we're
Speaker 1: in a close you know, in close dealings. And I
Speaker 1: and I put that over everything like we should be
Speaker 1: everybody should be. Um, loyalty should be on top of
Speaker 1: everybody's list. Who you who you deal with, who you
Speaker 1: rock with? Yeah, figure we always say, um, you always
Speaker 1: say that's probably the only trick question on here because
Speaker 1: UM and I get how people depreciate the two. UM,
Speaker 1: but I feel like, really, loyalty and respect, like it's
Speaker 1: just it's just like a hand and hand type of thing.
Speaker 1: But not in this generation now. But from where we
Speaker 1: come from. When I say where I come from, I
Speaker 1: don't mean my hood. I mean the generation generation, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um damn that motherfucker Live Residents
Speaker 1: smacking a ship out of me. Right now. We got
Speaker 1: some bigger boys. God damn it, that's it. That's it
Speaker 1: is hitting me crazy right in the building. You get
Speaker 1: paid by the movie. But so moving forward and this
Speaker 1: generation now, I can see how they don't coexist. But um,
Speaker 1: back then, if you had loyalty, you have respect. Back then,
Speaker 1: if you have respect, you had loyalty. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I'm looking at it just in this sense of
Speaker 1: you know how I how I view the two words,
Speaker 1: like I don't care if somebody respects me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I don't, you don't. You don't gotta
Speaker 1: respect me. You got to know me and I respect me.
Speaker 1: It's whatever. Loyalty is something that is. You know, you
Speaker 1: get that opportunity to even experience loyalty by being close
Speaker 1: to somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like you you,
Speaker 1: if you're not close somebody, you don't even expect loyalty.
Speaker 1: So you can only look at that word in one
Speaker 1: you know, in in a in a sense of being,
Speaker 1: But would in loyalty automatically bring respect with itself, because
Speaker 1: the minute someone disengages from being loyal, they're disrespecting you
Speaker 1: at the same time. That's why. That's that's why I
Speaker 1: was like, I guess, I mean you mean true, you know,
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, I think you can separate
Speaker 1: both of them because again I can see this man
Speaker 1: right here. I don't gotta respect that man or nothing.
Speaker 1: You don't gotta respect me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Loyalty ain't even an option. We don't even know each other,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when you start talking
Speaker 1: about loyalty, you're really talking about you're already putting a
Speaker 1: relationship there. And when you when you mentioned loyalty, not
Speaker 1: necessarily with respect, because the enemy could respect you and
Speaker 1: that'd be loyal to you. That's why I think is
Speaker 1: where it disengages, Like like someone from a distance in
Speaker 1: the streets could be like, I'm gonna respect them and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move accordingly to how I respect that they
Speaker 1: might move, but I'm not loyal to that person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's separate though. Man, life is crazy. Man
Speaker 1: life is crazy. Life is crazy. No, look at this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about to say, man like not only did you
Speaker 1: think you still be here, like with the level of
Speaker 1: love that you receive, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you have like like I go back to the Coil
Speaker 1: Ray interview because it was just, um, is a fire
Speaker 1: cracker that that's that's the home. But what it was
Speaker 1: was to see Charlemagne like and have his like you know,
Speaker 1: he's the top of his game. He's sitting there and
Speaker 1: it's like there's people like that that won't let what
Speaker 1: you do die at all. Yeah, no, for sure, And
Speaker 1: you know it's it's Um, I think that it's good
Speaker 1: to have champions like like Charlotte Maagne out there and yeah,
Speaker 1: of course Vangela everybody. UM, but you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta make it. You gotta make it easy for
Speaker 1: them to champion you two. You gotta make that ship.
Speaker 1: You gotta be culturally relevant. You gotta be active and
Speaker 1: actively competing and you know, you know, being able to
Speaker 1: put up your album one for one with any of them.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's something that I need to
Speaker 1: do more. Like I you know, I've been on some
Speaker 1: I've been on some you know, drop every two three
Speaker 1: years type of ship. This was even longer due to
Speaker 1: the pandemic or whatever. But um, I think I think
Speaker 1: just being more respectful to my fan And if I'm
Speaker 1: really trying to get my language out there and and
Speaker 1: show that I'm being competitive, I'm gonna have to drop
Speaker 1: more frequently too. What's ther president of death? Dam? How
Speaker 1: has it been working with Tungi Dope? Like you know
Speaker 1: young energy? Um, he knows what you're talking about. And
Speaker 1: and Tungji used to wrap. He's gonna kill me for this.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, but but I sucked him up.
Speaker 1: I told him right, I told him, I know you
Speaker 1: used to wrap two So because I brought him into
Speaker 1: listen to my album first, and I was like, before
Speaker 1: we even go here, I know you're rappers, so that's
Speaker 1: why you're here. Tell me he um African? Um, what's
Speaker 1: the ship? Um? No, no, no, bumba, what's that? What
Speaker 1: the are you talking? Uh? Afro beats? Yeah, but no
Speaker 1: he wraps like a rapper, like African like raps. Yeah
Speaker 1: he sure, And um that was that was they had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with. Um. I was letting I
Speaker 1: was letting him hear the album. But that was part
Speaker 1: of the rollout specifically. That's why I asked you how
Speaker 1: long you got to live with the record because we
Speaker 1: wanted I feel like, man, people don't even rate in
Speaker 1: critique records no more so we had we had the
Speaker 1: record sent out to everybody earlier and we experienced the leak.
Speaker 1: Actually in the virgion I had didn't have drug Dealers
Speaker 1: anonymous on it. The one that I bought don't have
Speaker 1: drunk anonymous on It's not on it. Yeah, yeah I didn't.
Speaker 1: But the one when you google it, it is on
Speaker 1: that bro. Stop No, you know it's crazy. No, no,
Speaker 1: go to title man on the playlist that you sent us.
Speaker 1: They got it, yes, yeah, yes, they got it actually
Speaker 1: under the album yeah, come on, no or push the
Speaker 1: Tea Blue dist track towards Arby's. You started Arby's Ship
Speaker 1: because because McDonald's jerk you back in the day. Man,
Speaker 1: that's really really good. I'm really proud of that. Armies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the campaign. Right go, Steve Stout got
Speaker 1: your jerked back. They didn't get a jerk man, but
Speaker 1: not shouting Stout though, because he you know he um.
Speaker 1: He brought me and my brother in on the I'm
Speaker 1: loving the campaign. Yeah. We talked about two and from
Speaker 1: those raps came the catchphrase I'm loving it and you
Speaker 1: you did not know about residuals back there? Hell don't
Speaker 1: know that ship with the check was looking crazy that
Speaker 1: bro I wasn't thinking about it, and I'm thinking ship,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, a little two months joint about
Speaker 1: the same time it's over. That should lasted twenty years,
Speaker 1: might still be forever? Know for sure? Are we stepped
Speaker 1: you and said let's get a cracking h We'll see
Speaker 1: ary they said, let's go to the wall, let's get
Speaker 1: double like that. If any of that happened, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what happened before. What really happened was I've been
Speaker 1: speaking and I've been telling people that that was like
Speaker 1: my um my biggest regret. You know, people ask you, like, da,
Speaker 1: what's your biggest regret musically? So that's um. So I
Speaker 1: told him about the McDonald's thing and I and then
Speaker 1: I proceeded to tell them that. But after that, though,
Speaker 1: I see, I've been in business with Arby's for minute
Speaker 1: because me and scrill X did a record together called
Speaker 1: Burial and that we got to meet at the end
Speaker 1: of the Arby's commercial with the last hard That's that
Speaker 1: our own record. So yeah, so out here doing right
Speaker 1: so so and that's why because you were speaking about earlier.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I was doing his E d
Speaker 1: M stuff, and I was like, bro, that was the
Speaker 1: path that I got. No, he was on point, but
Speaker 1: he was on point. He was on point with that.
Speaker 1: He jump off the E d M. The E d
Speaker 1: M is very commercial friendly and once um my manager
Speaker 1: really Stephen was really like pushing that. No, just pushing,
Speaker 1: just doing a lot of E d M stuff, like yo,
Speaker 1: just do it like it's it's cool whatever, it's it's
Speaker 1: commercial leaning. And so to get me to do it,
Speaker 1: he would always ask for a super crazy amount of
Speaker 1: the song like like yo, give me whatever publishing and
Speaker 1: I ended up doing the Screll X one and it
Speaker 1: ended up getting picked up. So yeah, so I didn't
Speaker 1: say nothing. He just owns that piece of that record.
Speaker 1: Who got the Meets is on yes, exactly. So um,
Speaker 1: with that, with that being the case, um, they reached
Speaker 1: out to me. It was like, man, we we heard
Speaker 1: about what you said during the you know, doing me harmy.
Speaker 1: Yeah They're like yeah, we've been I'm always gies, but
Speaker 1: you know it was like yeo, we heard about that
Speaker 1: but we got this fish sandwich that we bring in
Speaker 1: the market. Let's, you know, let's do something they want
Speaker 1: to bang against. Yeah, Wendy's right, McDonald's Okay, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it just made sense. It just made sense, you know,
Speaker 1: be for McDonald's, sense, beef for McDonald's and just everything
Speaker 1: I was going through, just beefwise period. They were like,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So that's why it's like really important
Speaker 1: to get the right people at these corporations because you
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Culture. Whoever the guy is at
Speaker 1: Arby's does deserve a raise. I think he got. He
Speaker 1: could have got. Let's be clear that a lot of
Speaker 1: these executives now are of an age and a generation
Speaker 1: that grew up on hip hop that probably get it.
Speaker 1: But he could have because anybody could wrap now, he
Speaker 1: could have got a straight faced you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to do. Arby's got beef with y D's and
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to say. But they got a credible lyricist,
Speaker 1: and you really got D R B Gang And I
Speaker 1: ain't got it yet. Get at least the piece. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: for sure, get the piece. Give me give me a ticket, yeah,
Speaker 1: to come down. But so Marvey steps to you and
Speaker 1: they said listen. Yeah. It was like, yo, let's let
Speaker 1: let's do this. You seven drop by on me? Yes,
Speaker 1: for sure, everybody get everybody getting it, and man, it
Speaker 1: really it really paid off. It really paid off. I
Speaker 1: think it got um. It really tuned everybody from our
Speaker 1: culture totally into Rby's even more. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if they really were before, but just
Speaker 1: to see the analytics and the numbers, you know that
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Something like Bloomberg talking about it and
Speaker 1: everybody because you Ronald McDonald's come back, Nah, I ain't buying.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying an it's crazy MS gag game. He's like,
Speaker 1: what's I was like, they made this? This is this
Speaker 1: is by far one of the funniest hip hop uh
Speaker 1: commercial like battle it is because like I said, they
Speaker 1: could have got astray faced. Yeah, and a guy from
Speaker 1: the hood that is you know, got superbars, you know,
Speaker 1: supertality where they got you and then and then and
Speaker 1: then it's actually make that was a tweeting back like
Speaker 1: and it's a story. The story though, Drake, the story
Speaker 1: that's sundered off the Arby's gang. Now that's just means
Speaker 1: out of question. You eat the roast beef? Yeah for sure. No,
Speaker 1: I don't really know too many people, I promise you.
Speaker 1: I'm Allby's games as pretty clean though. Man can order
Speaker 1: right now? What's the number seven? I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I do what I did? I do? I do from shading?
Speaker 1: Uh No, on one, I put the sesame seed on it,
Speaker 1: shredded lettuce, tomato, arby sauce, curly fry, sweet tea. Let's go.
Speaker 1: So just I don't eat beef. Did I got chicken?
Speaker 1: I'm getting the fish shamwich. You sold me on the
Speaker 1: fish Sam. Yes, you told me that the other niggas
Speaker 1: is not the niggas right right right? They not with you.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some armies. We got a pop the
Speaker 1: armies wanted to dry. But did you cliche type of questions?
Speaker 1: But did you ever think that hip hop with tickets
Speaker 1: like joking around? That's why I do it. That's why
Speaker 1: I do it, like like I really, I really, um man,
Speaker 1: you know, we're from the time where like yo, my
Speaker 1: first my first Grammy nomination, I had to go like
Speaker 1: the day before when it was like tele like I'm
Speaker 1: televised and you had your own little like stupid ceremony.
Speaker 1: They were smart. Yeah, like they won't. Chris rock Shield
Speaker 1: came out that it was ahead of the time show.
Speaker 1: I told you I ain't coming. She's gonna be real
Speaker 1: bill Board Awards he hosted and executive producing. When I
Speaker 1: don't know, Coden, I'm going, I'm going here, gonna have
Speaker 1: to security on that. You're gonna nig up. Ain't smacking tripping,
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that he want the smack. That's
Speaker 1: a fact. I'm gonna be front row because if not
Speaker 1: just a bill Board a ward, but he's he's yea
Speaker 1: yea drink anymore. He's also execut producing it, so like
Speaker 1: he's executive producer because of remember was executive produced and
Speaker 1: produced by Will Farrell. And right, excuse me, how about
Speaker 1: whatever did he do? He gonna kill, he gonna kill,
Speaker 1: he gonna dances, training and ship and the shows you
Speaker 1: gotta get to The show was done. Nobody playing with him. No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm talking, mom, he's hosting the Billboard Award. But we're
Speaker 1: talking about the producer that you were talking about, Will
Speaker 1: pat Yeah he killed the show was dope, he killed it? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he killed it. You you're interested in the Oscars and
Speaker 1: ship like that and Oscars. Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: never watch that show. I'm gonna watching next year. Just
Speaker 1: want to see is gonna get it flicked? Yeah, sounds
Speaker 1: I never watched you Are you Award? Your God? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My team breaks and ship? Uh you know, I mean
Speaker 1: anything that you know they gotta do with music and
Speaker 1: especially if I'm involved, and yeah, I'm tuned in, I listen.
Speaker 1: I want everything that comes along with it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everything that comes along with the game.
Speaker 1: For sure. That was I was super proud of of
Speaker 1: Daytona being nominated. Yeah, super proud of that. Like, um,
Speaker 1: it was good man. It was just like you just
Speaker 1: think about me. I remember vividly being at the rock
Speaker 1: Nation brunch with Nipsey and it's like high five and
Speaker 1: and laughing like you WoT my white House ship to right? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but just um, you know, just being being at the
Speaker 1: rock Nation brunch man and we like giggling, laughing, high
Speaker 1: five and like yo we got we grabam me now,
Speaker 1: and they were in the same category like didn't fucked up?
Speaker 1: This is crazy, you know, and just just being really happy.
Speaker 1: I remember like discussing with him just about being really
Speaker 1: happy about the category itself. I felt like they got it, yeah,
Speaker 1: really like he I felt like they really got it right. Um,
Speaker 1: Cardi b ended up winning that year and m and
Speaker 1: I still like, you know, I get it. Was it
Speaker 1: was Cardi, it was myself, It was Nipsy, was mcmiller,
Speaker 1: was Travis Scott. I felt like they got all all fastests,
Speaker 1: all across the board, and you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day when it comes to the vote and
Speaker 1: it's just who they pick or whatever and who they
Speaker 1: think performs the best. But you know, it was something
Speaker 1: that I don't think any of us could be mad at.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, the right, Yeah, no, listen,
Speaker 1: the Cardi one, she deserved that. But you know, having
Speaker 1: what it is that I do in hip hop, my content,
Speaker 1: the ship. I talked about the ship. Where this ship
Speaker 1: is from, next to that, next to Mac, next to Travis,
Speaker 1: nip like it was bro I couldn't ask for nothing better.
Speaker 1: And to put it in perspectives, I'm not wrong. The
Speaker 1: Grammys before combined R and B and rap. Yes, sir, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: like that was crazy, Yes, sir. You remember listen they
Speaker 1: start a whole committee. Remember they like, there's a whole
Speaker 1: committee if they do one vote, and then they then
Speaker 1: they bringing their committee folks and be like, let's edit
Speaker 1: this up a little bit, you know, those who are
Speaker 1: part of the the board. You know what I'm saying, Man,
Speaker 1: I missed the days of can you used to interrupt? You?
Speaker 1: Leave you alone? Ye let let you chill? He chilling
Speaker 1: right now, chilling, chill. I told him stay you at piece.
Speaker 1: You listen, He's listening, peaceful, calm, we giggling, laughing. Give
Speaker 1: he designed my merch. I'm like, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It was one day and I can't I
Speaker 1: can't reveal anything me and him spoke about. But it
Speaker 1: was crazy that he had called me one day and
Speaker 1: one of my friends called me with the same exact problem.
Speaker 1: And it was like one of my niggers got ten
Speaker 1: billions and one of my dudes probably even had ten
Speaker 1: dollars and they had the same exact problem. And that
Speaker 1: ship changed my life. I remember where I was at,
Speaker 1: was downstairs on the beach, and I just got one
Speaker 1: call for one dude and I got another call for another.
Speaker 1: It was salmon tasey right back and it was like
Speaker 1: they had the same exact for um, That's what let
Speaker 1: me know that money probably doesn't really make you happy.
Speaker 1: It gives you, it puts you on that street. But
Speaker 1: in order for you to be happy or not, you
Speaker 1: gotta walk through that. No, money makes me happy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: money does make me happy. But what I'm saying, when
Speaker 1: I got out the car, right, what I do? What
Speaker 1: did I do when I got out the car? As
Speaker 1: soon as I got off the car, Okay, we got
Speaker 1: you walked o right to your camera. Yes, money makes
Speaker 1: me happy too, But I'm saying overall, you have to
Speaker 1: have something else that do you agree with for sure? No,
Speaker 1: for sure you have to Yeah, yeah, but but I
Speaker 1: think that I think that um, money makes things better
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean you know, being happy, Like, being
Speaker 1: happy is something that you gotta like that starts within.
Speaker 1: You have a smoke, bad bad week before. Na's horrible. Na,
Speaker 1: you don't never want to be broke. No, it's a
Speaker 1: horrible thing. You start being mad at everyone because you're smoking,
Speaker 1: harsh no smoking set I smoke. I smoked on vacation,
Speaker 1: every blue everything, And then yeah you want smoke, smoke
Speaker 1: chap joint. I'm cool, right, now I'm drinking drinking. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I noticed is you were very
Speaker 1: famous in the industry for having a whole line of
Speaker 1: Cardi Air bracelets, bust Down, Cartier bust down. That's not
Speaker 1: my thing. Watches, watches, let's smoke down. You know, I've
Speaker 1: treated it. I got rid of my card as soon
Speaker 1: as I get the get rid of the riggor came
Speaker 1: out soreggor came out of hate my jewel. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: like I get rid of this. Yeah, do you under
Speaker 1: do you understand what you don't if you're a real
Speaker 1: watch people, Yeah, the real watch people, you can just watch.
Speaker 1: I can sit on myself. I Watchler, I have been.
Speaker 1: I haven't been to watch Lover. I'm know I'm kind
Speaker 1: of sore, but I'm not. I don't have the ship
Speaker 1: that looked like nothing, that's six hundred thousand. I don't have,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, I know what they
Speaker 1: look like. But but for people that don't know that's
Speaker 1: a normal watch guy, Cartier bust downs are not good.
Speaker 1: They're just not my thing. They're just not my thing.
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, you know, it teaches own, but
Speaker 1: they're just not my thing. I like I like, I
Speaker 1: love to bracelet. How about the regular Cardier watches without
Speaker 1: bust out. I I think they look nice playing Judy's
Speaker 1: I think they look nice. Yeah, they're nice. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is a Batman you have on? Yes, that is
Speaker 1: a Submariner GM g MT Batman. The man is out
Speaker 1: here exclusive, y'all. The band is out. Don't look it,
Speaker 1: don't look. That's the that's the funk you watch. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know when you just
Speaker 1: outside because you know it looked normal and ship, but
Speaker 1: you can't find that through the retailer's crazy. So I'm
Speaker 1: doing that. We're trying to do a watch show, win
Speaker 1: wine and watches and watch what is? Because you lamed
Speaker 1: your album Daytona. Yeah, what is your favorite Daytona? Uh?
Speaker 1: The Green Anniversary, Green Face Anniversary of Gold, all Gold.
Speaker 1: I bought that for my wife here and I paid
Speaker 1: and I and I and I and I and I say,
Speaker 1: what it for your wife? A different type of money.
Speaker 1: But the favorite Daytona is the all Gold Green Face Anniversary.
Speaker 1: Very very hard, very very very It's like forms flex show.
Speaker 1: Harder to get a ticket. It was, it was, it
Speaker 1: was I paid over then I never never paid overfore watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never in my life paid overfore watch. So you
Speaker 1: got direct to Rolex yeah, director director Rolex Germany, direct
Speaker 1: to Rolex Um. Not even to Rolex, but to an
Speaker 1: authorized dealer here who's been down with them for like
Speaker 1: thirty years. So that's where I by all my watches
Speaker 1: from Germany and Miami, Germany. The family was in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: They were in Atlanta and they have another store in
Speaker 1: l Alynndale, Lindale, and you get so you found there
Speaker 1: was I've always been retail, retail, retail until the green
Speaker 1: face and now wife, you wanted that, that was your suggestion,
Speaker 1: that was what I think she should have. Ye she's boys, yea,
Speaker 1: she only wear Man watches. Don't seen the white lady
Speaker 1: do that to us? Watch the other day the white
Speaker 1: Lady came in Mkodo and and I was like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I had that, excuse me what is that? And she
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is the Mad's presidentiary. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is some Yeah, that is some fly ship. So
Speaker 1: but yeah, but now I uh, I believe I paid
Speaker 1: just twenty over and now today it's like over yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah, when your name because I uh,
Speaker 1: you know, patting you on your back when you name
Speaker 1: the album Daytona, it's it's crazy. Since then, it seems
Speaker 1: like watches appreciate it before. No, a little bit, A
Speaker 1: little bit before no, no, no, look a little bit
Speaker 1: after that. I think that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think you I don't know, it's me. I would have credit.
Speaker 1: You ain't seen two up. But it's true. But Daytona, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Daytona was was was just about having the luxury of time.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Daytona at that time when you
Speaker 1: named it, that the most expensive rolex there is is
Speaker 1: a Daytona. I don't think. I don't know if I knew.
Speaker 1: Is that the one that um the rainbow? It's two
Speaker 1: of them. Oh, it's one of the most expensive one factory, Yes,
Speaker 1: from factory Okay, yes, that one, and I believe it's
Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage has one. That's what I was getting. That
Speaker 1: was That's what I thought you was. I mean, I
Speaker 1: thought you were going back to the somebody got an
Speaker 1: original life, he got some stupid Yeah, yeah, he got
Speaker 1: don't even look like a real wife. It's like you
Speaker 1: just know it's going to sixty seconds. He got got
Speaker 1: I think him and I think it's is the guy
Speaker 1: John Mayor too, maybe John Mays a John he's a
Speaker 1: Rolette just gave him for saying nigga, because you remember
Speaker 1: he said nigga back in the days. Yes, help me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said. He was in the Vibe magazine. He said,
Speaker 1: and come on, I mean, let's go, let's just let's
Speaker 1: just go. Yeah, he's a big watch guy. Is a
Speaker 1: big watch guy. Okay, yeah, yeah, me and Sharon have
Speaker 1: the same chocolate face Daytona chocolate with the leather band. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We um he was working with chocolate with the leather band.
Speaker 1: Oh you sophisticated, you got suits. I got a couple,
Speaker 1: you got right, he um um. He was down here
Speaker 1: working with p one time, and that's when we discovered that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had the orange at the time. I forget,
Speaker 1: wasn't that. I think it's orange or Bergny's somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got we got to get you a wife. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Where do you think lyricism is going in hip hop?
Speaker 1: Because it felt that in the nineties, right like coming
Speaker 1: out of the late eighties. We talked about the era
Speaker 1: and then go into the nineties, you could get it.
Speaker 1: You could have got a deal off of a clue
Speaker 1: mixtape kicking a crazy six team right sounding that you
Speaker 1: could have kicked these lyrics and you didn't even know
Speaker 1: half of these words. You were saying what they meant,
Speaker 1: right as long as it sounded good. And then we
Speaker 1: departed from that heavy Where do you think the future
Speaker 1: of lyricism is in hip hop right now? UM? I
Speaker 1: think that as long as there's somebody, um who has
Speaker 1: the who has the passion, who has the passion for
Speaker 1: for finding that lyric driven hip hop, you know, whether
Speaker 1: they be in these labels or whether they're a fan. UM,
Speaker 1: I think lyricism is gonna be here forever. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think the fundamentals of hip hop die like.
Speaker 1: I think that that is what UM. That is always
Speaker 1: gonna be the cornerstone, cornerstone and driving force of anybody
Speaker 1: who we say is nice out here? So and there's all.
Speaker 1: And when you think about it, think about everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: all the biggest in the game. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They all are you know, respective for their pen or
Speaker 1: respective for their lyricism. You know, you have all other
Speaker 1: type of subgenres of hip hop. Um, you know, more
Speaker 1: viaby more whatever. But at the base of it all,
Speaker 1: even you know, look at future and look at what
Speaker 1: future does when you when you but when you hear
Speaker 1: him and you decipher what he's saying, and even he
Speaker 1: has a title of being like the illest toxic motherfucker
Speaker 1: because you you know, because people can hear and understand
Speaker 1: and relate to what he's talking about. That too is
Speaker 1: like because I'm from Miami, and to me, Trick was
Speaker 1: like the jay Z of Miami. If you from Miami,
Speaker 1: you understand what he's talking. He's talking about for sure,
Speaker 1: Hella lyrical for sure. But UM, let me actually, because um,
Speaker 1: I've heard you bring up future to automatically made me
Speaker 1: think of designer, right, let me me think of that
Speaker 1: you were the president at the time. And um, he's
Speaker 1: been trying to get at us um quite some time,
Speaker 1: and I haven't been able to speak to him direct.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have neither right designer independent, but um,
Speaker 1: and his claim is, you know, Kanye, you got my publishing.
Speaker 1: Good Music has the rights to me. He doesn't get
Speaker 1: any publisher and he doesn't get any royalties. He doesn't
Speaker 1: get any anything like that. But yet I believe when
Speaker 1: the signing did happen, it was a big upfront check. Right.
Speaker 1: Where are you stand on positions like that? I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like, well, I know, Designer
Speaker 1: made a lot of money, made tons of money, and
Speaker 1: it's a difference from front money. Um. I mean, however
Speaker 1: you want to look at it, he made, he made.
Speaker 1: He came in the game and made tons of money.
Speaker 1: No line, Um, you know I'm not on his you know,
Speaker 1: in his management or anything like that. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, Um, I don't know how
Speaker 1: even his deal in structure. I know, I know he
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure it was negotiated by his lawyer
Speaker 1: for sure. And however that turned out. You know, he
Speaker 1: was he he approved it, whatever it was, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And ship when you think about it,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Designer was hot man like super hot,
Speaker 1: came into the game, you uh made, made your song
Speaker 1: one of his biggest records on Pablo, Um gave you
Speaker 1: a hell of a springboard, hell of a you know,
Speaker 1: hell of a trampoline to jump off. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know, like I don't hear like you see,
Speaker 1: I don't hear the side of like designer being disgrunted.
Speaker 1: I don't hear. UM's it's a case because whoever he's calling,
Speaker 1: that's their point as saying, Yo, listen. He wants to
Speaker 1: say like how he didn't he doesn't receive royalties and
Speaker 1: um uh, he doesn't own his publishing or whatever. And
Speaker 1: it's it's something that you know, when I got in
Speaker 1: the game, I sold my publish and I didn't know, Uh,
Speaker 1: you didn't know you sold it. I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: got it back the next very next hour, very next
Speaker 1: you sold it, though, but you know I know I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew it afterwards after Um, whose fault is that? No?
Speaker 1: That was depletely my fault. Okay, it was clearly my
Speaker 1: fun You were hella young, You were like what, I'm seventeen,
Speaker 1: I was seventeen eight. Maybe not your fault because council. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but but you know, having uh you know, having
Speaker 1: having having lawyers and and and being in tune with
Speaker 1: your lawyer and your team being in tune with your lawyer,
Speaker 1: that that definitely does fall on you because you've got
Speaker 1: artists right now too, right Uh, money on Um no, no, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all just my man. Okay, okay, y'ah my man, y'a y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all getting too much money to be my honest already.
Speaker 1: So to speak about your speak about I don't know
Speaker 1: what we told about that, but yeah, yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a record label that I'm that I'm building, not good music, yeah,
Speaker 1: Airway Music Group, Um it is, um it's it's basically
Speaker 1: me building the infrastructure for people from the Virginia area
Speaker 1: to be noticed. Like the one thing that I always
Speaker 1: say is that when you think about all of us
Speaker 1: who came into the game Tennessee for real, clips whatever,
Speaker 1: being not producers, whoever, Right, Um, we all had to
Speaker 1: leave and go get hot, skills, goog whatever. We all
Speaker 1: had to leave and go get hot I mean you
Speaker 1: know we had to leave and go ask for deals
Speaker 1: at that time, right, Well, yeah, for every region it
Speaker 1: wasn't outside of New York, outside of New York, and
Speaker 1: it was where the industry was. So so would that
Speaker 1: be in the case, and again we were adopted by
Speaker 1: that New York circuit. Virginia was. We never took the
Speaker 1: time that Houston did to build out there's or Memphis did,
Speaker 1: or in Atlanta did or Bay Area? It right, they
Speaker 1: did that, so you know, come around fast forward. That's
Speaker 1: why when you look at what's hot, what's going on,
Speaker 1: what's bubbling under, what's got the most streams, so on
Speaker 1: and so forth, that's not signed yet, you can see
Speaker 1: it in all those different places because those places, you know,
Speaker 1: taught the people how to even be fans of their neighbor.
Speaker 1: We never, we never were talked that. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the whole goal. And Airway Music a Airwave Airway music group.
Speaker 1: Um uh shouting R and B songstress. Um, oh yeah
Speaker 1: she was at we we met her revolt. Yeah she's
Speaker 1: she's so no we she's dope at right. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: um you know, uh Leado, why not do something good? Bro,
Speaker 1: I've been drinking, but yeah, why not douce Leado shout
Speaker 1: ling Um. You know. Also not signed, not signed to
Speaker 1: the Airwave, but I manage him with my man dre
Speaker 1: Um is young Chris. He's like really viral right now.
Speaker 1: He's on the little Techer tour. They signed in Colombia.
Speaker 1: But um, so it's a it's a few, it's a
Speaker 1: few uh people out of out of v a right
Speaker 1: now making noise and more that aren't that aren't affiliated
Speaker 1: with me. But the whole goal for airwave is to
Speaker 1: create that infrastructure so that it can be more to
Speaker 1: come through and signed me or don't sign me, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. At least at least they will
Speaker 1: garner that fanfare that will get them national attention eventually.
Speaker 1: That's the goal that still um Barreto was one of
Speaker 1: the greatest producers of all time, without a doubt, no
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about. Yes, why do you think that?
Speaker 1: He kind of because I always say that, you know,
Speaker 1: I always say that because, um, how my career was.
Speaker 1: I was the man. I was the man in New York,
Speaker 1: and at the time, being a man in New York
Speaker 1: did mean you was the man all over the place.
Speaker 1: But it didn't mean all over the place was going
Speaker 1: to accept you. And that beat that for well. He
Speaker 1: was smart enough to say I'm gonna leave super Thug
Speaker 1: because he could swipt those drums and made it sound
Speaker 1: like Premo drums, made it sound like Lawn's Professor drums,
Speaker 1: made it sound like having drums would have never did
Speaker 1: that though, I'll tell you why. But and this was
Speaker 1: the first time where people really got to hear East
Speaker 1: Coast do rhyme on what is considered almost a south
Speaker 1: beat and I wouldn't say quite south, but almost. And
Speaker 1: I've seen the effect I've seen. I've seen me be
Speaker 1: in the studio with with with like you said, all
Speaker 1: this time, He'll hear a story, He'll make a beat
Speaker 1: around the story, He'll make around the story. I've seen
Speaker 1: him create magic out of nowhere. How can every time
Speaker 1: I say this around him he bows his head and
Speaker 1: he gets humble? Is that is that because he really
Speaker 1: he really hated. I hated. I hate it. I absolutely
Speaker 1: hated that. He doesn't want to be coy about it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want him to be hip hop about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm like. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you know, I hate it, like I absolutely hate it.
Speaker 1: He knows I hate it. I hated like bad, like
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like it's tough, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: you know. And maybe that works with some of the
Speaker 1: music that he does. But like when we on what
Speaker 1: we're on, I need you to be big chains, big
Speaker 1: cars crashing ferraris. Like I remember where I would come
Speaker 1: to the studio playing with Swiss Beat Joint and he'll
Speaker 1: just look at me like, all right, bro, listen the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, that whole, early two thousand things
Speaker 1: was all about competition. Ryandon was specifically made to try
Speaker 1: to do something that could eclipse the Benjamin's disrupted. That
Speaker 1: was the goal. That was the goal. Um, when you
Speaker 1: talk about Primo and and and people like that, who
Speaker 1: are his you know he's you know, he's there right right,
Speaker 1: but still going into the studio, it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what can I do to outdo that? He's the reason, right,
Speaker 1: here's the reason now that I when I listen to beats,
Speaker 1: they got to be something unorthodox. It doesn't like I
Speaker 1: don't like just muddy, hard beats. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like that. That's not because I know now that beats
Speaker 1: can be bright and have like beasts can be hard,
Speaker 1: and it can be super thug level of chaos starting
Speaker 1: fights and all that be right, don't gotta be muddy
Speaker 1: and trudgy. And you know what I'm saying, you would
Speaker 1: have never thought for the first time in the studio,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you know it's crazy. When we first placed
Speaker 1: with program directors and you know, mixture people, they said
Speaker 1: the record was too dark. Yep. So that's the reason
Speaker 1: why we if you noticed, we never made a dark
Speaker 1: scene in the video, we made it all bright because
Speaker 1: and they said it was too dark because you know why,
Speaker 1: I never heard that it was crazy. It's this is crazy.
Speaker 1: And Rod Walker definitely knows this. My reputation as a
Speaker 1: street dude was so bad at the time, and they
Speaker 1: didn't hear about the NEP tunes. They didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't realize that this is the same dude that
Speaker 1: I was doing the Mace records, that was doing the
Speaker 1: Pump records. They do it. We t u yes the
Speaker 1: way it used to be like one of the best.
Speaker 1: And they thought they were gamesters. So they're like, we
Speaker 1: can't be happy you guys with these Neptune guys. But
Speaker 1: until I put them in the video and they was like, oh,
Speaker 1: these guys are not gamesters at all at all, which works,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I go back to
Speaker 1: say that, like, you know, I was a kid, you know,
Speaker 1: doing that. I was a kid watching y'all make grinding.
Speaker 1: I was a kid watching these beautiful albums in these
Speaker 1: beautiful records coming together. And when I come back and
Speaker 1: I think about it, I was like, this dude, if
Speaker 1: not the he is one of the best producers of
Speaker 1: more times for sure. He took me from a sound
Speaker 1: that was clearly just for New York like like like
Speaker 1: to this day, I'm nothing Miami for fifteen years to
Speaker 1: open up my mouth, but from New York I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't, right, But he was able to take my boys,
Speaker 1: keep me in New York, but make me international. That
Speaker 1: was I was amazing. Can I ask you for for
Speaker 1: for pure ignorance? Because the Neptunes is the Neptune, the
Speaker 1: last Chad and Pharrell? Yeah, what's Chat's rolling that? Because
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're referring to Super Thug to me,
Speaker 1: that's the Neptune, but you're referring to Farrell alone. What's
Speaker 1: Chat's rolling in in the production? Um? Well, I've worked
Speaker 1: with them through many eras, so you know, when I
Speaker 1: initially was working with the Neptunes, Um, let's say for
Speaker 1: the album that never came out or for Lord Willing,
Speaker 1: it was more of Uh, Chad would do the keys
Speaker 1: and the chords, and he would play um and add
Speaker 1: you know those type of like keyboards signs. He was
Speaker 1: just Scott Storch of that situation. Yeah, I guess. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to. Yeah, I guess because
Speaker 1: he's famous for playing, so yeah, playing, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: that's what he did. It was it was that, it
Speaker 1: was the it was the playing, and it was the sounds,
Speaker 1: like you know, finding those unorthodox sounds that would go
Speaker 1: into the Neptune sound. You know, it was funny. Sorry
Speaker 1: to cut you off. I always thought it was all
Speaker 1: both of them, like at one point um when like
Speaker 1: we're all we're just coming around and it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a child. I would always feel jerk, like what's going on?
Speaker 1: Like I never knew that they can co exist without
Speaker 1: each other because I mean, you know, for Pharrell, at
Speaker 1: the time, Pharrell wasn't playing, and then he started playing,
Speaker 1: and then and things like that. So now you get
Speaker 1: into hell hath no Fury and that's all for Rell,
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean, you know, mostly for real.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to think back, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to like say anything that's wrong or whatever, but
Speaker 1: hell half No Fury was very top to bottom p
Speaker 1: r um um you know. Uh, since then, it has
Speaker 1: definitely been a lot of p Then maybe there's some
Speaker 1: post production co production and definitely mixing Um on the
Speaker 1: engineering side of the final product with chad Um. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, it just depends on the project. I just
Speaker 1: think it's important when we talk about that era that
Speaker 1: it was both of them. Oh yeah, I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, you're talking about what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: the neptune. And then when when breaks off, it's clearly
Speaker 1: it's it's Pas going in. Yeah, he's doing both. I
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with by itself. Yeah, but but it's always
Speaker 1: like it's always like um, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it, like this was always like seeing like Santa
Speaker 1: Claus and the Elves, or Santa Claus and his wife
Speaker 1: at Santa Claus, you know, like if you just see
Speaker 1: Santa close by myself, it's not Christmas. It's like I
Speaker 1: want to see like the bag. The bag is a
Speaker 1: character too, And when I see both of them, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, I see Santa Clause, I
Speaker 1: see the Elves, I see the bags, the clocks, I
Speaker 1: see the sling. Like you know what I'm saying, Like me,
Speaker 1: like I'm always that. That was my first international new hit,
Speaker 1: and I was proud to and I remember, for what else, saying,
Speaker 1: no one listens to me. So that's what I remember.
Speaker 1: He's like, no one shots me out. That's why I
Speaker 1: wanted to put that in the n E. P t U.
Speaker 1: And he has to be like one of the best.
Speaker 1: And I just seen the fuation and you know that
Speaker 1: was that was you was their group, and it was like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's why I keep bringing up grinding.
Speaker 1: It's because for us, like I said, and I said
Speaker 1: it earlier for us to even go out there and
Speaker 1: see that this is a different world. We just thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's Virginia, but zoom zoom and the boom boom this
Speaker 1: girl's running around with and they're like, oh, these niggas
Speaker 1: is selling crack. Oh, this is why I think it
Speaker 1: so crazy. We too holy everywhere. And then even even
Speaker 1: even because he was coming from Newport Beach and we're
Speaker 1: just saying, okay, Newport Beach was like, all right, they
Speaker 1: gotta be something nice about that, and oh oh no
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah from something terrible literally, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's from something very terrible. But like you know,
Speaker 1: back yeah, it was bags of money, pit bulls rolling
Speaker 1: around the apartments type shit in his neighborhoods terrible, like
Speaker 1: listen for him to be who he is, like he
Speaker 1: made he made a definite choice to say I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be this guy, not that guy because he's from the gutter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've said it so bad. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: say that. What calling I mean, I love the name
Speaker 1: of beautiful people from there, but bro, yeah he's from it.
Speaker 1: Um really, remember I'm wolcome Toby. Yeah he's probably, but
Speaker 1: he does not want to be a part of it
Speaker 1: at all. And he made a record for me, and
Speaker 1: it's like thinking, stets up. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: remember this record. It's all the um it's one of
Speaker 1: the clones out okay, And he's just talking about gang banking.
Speaker 1: Remember what we're talking about, gag like like sts up?
Speaker 1: Remember walking looked at me and it was like, this
Speaker 1: is your fault gang banging. He doesn't want to talk
Speaker 1: one gang kid, He doesn't want to talk about no
Speaker 1: tough godship until you walk into I remember, I was
Speaker 1: just it would be so funny, man, you know, he
Speaker 1: he morphs into you know, whoever he's around. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's like Robley one of his best you know attributes.
Speaker 1: That's why when you say you tell a story or whatever,
Speaker 1: the kid like you know, super Thug is rambunctionous because
Speaker 1: that's how he sees you exactly. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At that time, that wouldn't be a good producer because
Speaker 1: a specific artist. Yeah, I always say, uh. The first
Speaker 1: time I was produced produced, for the first time I
Speaker 1: was really produced was Clark Kent. After of course that
Speaker 1: was produced produced. I've seen Clark records. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: asked him, who do I need to I talked to
Speaker 1: Clark Kent. Yes, forgot it. That's that's crazy. I never
Speaker 1: knew you. Clark was the first person to actually because
Speaker 1: I knew how to rhyme, I knew the today I
Speaker 1: would I would, I would come into the studio with
Speaker 1: twenty four bars and thirty six bars and like, this
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense in the world. You have to structure
Speaker 1: this ship. So Clark was the first person to produce me.
Speaker 1: Then the first person to produced me but without giving
Speaker 1: me the was track masters. The first person would be like, yo,
Speaker 1: look here's how the intro to sound his desk, his
Speaker 1: dad all you gotta do is do your part here
Speaker 1: and that's it. That was like he gave me the
Speaker 1: keys to the fucking car. He gave me the vanilla
Speaker 1: tree to smell good. He came out. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the at the voice wagon jether. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All I had to do was
Speaker 1: just go in and just rhyme and then like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, God noise boy. Before we get
Speaker 1: out of here, I want to speak about this y'all ofting,
Speaker 1: but I want to say something real quiz I've been
Speaker 1: on this dirty day, you know, uh, non drinking thing
Speaker 1: me shout out to thank you. I appreciate that, but
Speaker 1: it was because a couple of things. One thing is
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna ever, ever, ever, ever, ever drink before
Speaker 1: an episode. Again, I've already had that rule. I've already
Speaker 1: was supposed to do that. I can't blame being drinking
Speaker 1: on like, uh a problem with a professional drinker. The
Speaker 1: problem is sometimes I take or I use information, Like
Speaker 1: when I looked at the information and I look I
Speaker 1: actually cringed and I looked at the episode where I
Speaker 1: spoke about um, I've made it sound like eminemic gave
Speaker 1: automated like yoo, it's either you're gonna uh have fifty
Speaker 1: perform or I'm not gonna show up. And that was
Speaker 1: not it. What it was was I was being drunk.
Speaker 1: I was trying to like hype up the episode, and
Speaker 1: I was using words and I'm using it so I
Speaker 1: was trying to be relation converstion. That's crazy. My articulation
Speaker 1: was not articulation. So when I look back at it,
Speaker 1: there's no one called me. When I looked at it,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not what I am, That's not
Speaker 1: what this show was about, and no way shape for
Speaker 1: my past. Was then that I heard it was an
Speaker 1: alter the native that uh think that? And then and
Speaker 1: me looking at fifty and how fifty you could look
Speaker 1: at it too, I'm looking like, okay, you know, as
Speaker 1: much as fifty has done in his life, for me
Speaker 1: to say that, I understand how he could have took
Speaker 1: that the wrong way. I gotta stand how Jacob took
Speaker 1: that the wrong way. I can understand how I am
Speaker 1: going took that. Even me using the ference the white boy,
Speaker 1: I just didn't like that. I looked at it and
Speaker 1: I crin. You know, some of my closest friends are
Speaker 1: right and I just didn't like the way I said it.
Speaker 1: So for anybody who saw this footage, and you can
Speaker 1: clearly see I'm slappy, but that's not that's not the excuse.
Speaker 1: I do this for a living. So this was my fault.
Speaker 1: I'm clearly was in the wrong. I clearly the way
Speaker 1: I worded things, and clearly saying certain certain things that
Speaker 1: I might be mining set period. I would like to
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about the Snoop episode. A Snoop episode,
Speaker 1: you should say you did drink before the episode hopefull
Speaker 1: all the way to the West coast y. And that's so.
Speaker 1: And there's only two episodes in this whole time that
Speaker 1: I've looked at and I've cringed, and I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you the other episode. You know, don't look at them.
Speaker 1: I don't look at none of these episodes. I gotta
Speaker 1: beat nuts. That's not a beat Nuts episode. Beat Nuts
Speaker 1: deserves to come back. Nuts to drink. They need a
Speaker 1: real drink chance because that and I try to stop
Speaker 1: that drink chance and you're drunk as won't let me
Speaker 1: stop it. Damn now, everyone everyone on everyone else want
Speaker 1: to say, no, you bull I don't take something anything. Yeah, said,
Speaker 1: so you know again and again that you know I'm
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with real, big names and real so there
Speaker 1: were so many you know, uh, you know, different opinion.
Speaker 1: Don't pick yourself up. I just want to straighten now.
Speaker 1: I just want to straighten now. Now, let's just let's
Speaker 1: be clear. I want to get this one story straight. Now.
Speaker 1: Justin timber Lake might be mad at me for this, okay, don't.
Speaker 1: This is another one of those times Parrell came on here,
Speaker 1: sat on the same chier you got, and Parrell said
Speaker 1: he stopped He had stopped working with Justin timber Lake
Speaker 1: because at the time just Timberlake was on job. You
Speaker 1: guys have beef a job, and respectfully, he didn't want
Speaker 1: to continue that relationship. I dropped it for episode. Two
Speaker 1: weeks later, I've seen Justin Timberlake in Carbones to the
Speaker 1: Timberlake comes up to me. He taps me on whether
Speaker 1: I believe it's my shoulder or or might have been.
Speaker 1: He might give me a little over. He gave me
Speaker 1: any times you might, he said. He said that that
Speaker 1: that story is not exactly true. So I go, okay,
Speaker 1: and I come on here and I'll say exactly what
Speaker 1: he says to me, the story is not exactly true.
Speaker 1: And then because great he was to say that. So
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. Yeah, because you guys
Speaker 1: had a great relationship, uh, to my Pharrell, Justine, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: And then this, this discrepancy happens with Job. What was
Speaker 1: your stance on that? Yes, as far as as far
Speaker 1: as I knew, Um, as far as I knew, Pharrell
Speaker 1: the Neptunes did not work on that album and Justin
Speaker 1: had to go work with Tim on that. Yes, because um,
Speaker 1: because Job would not let the clips out of their deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know any other story. I mean I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even what possibly would be the story. I mean, what
Speaker 1: what what? What? What? What? What? Was untrue? But oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I never got you never explained. I
Speaker 1: thought you could know it was true. But it's true
Speaker 1: that Pharrell did not want to work on the album
Speaker 1: because of well yeah, I mean no, no, it was like, no,
Speaker 1: Pharrell wanted to work on the album. He did not
Speaker 1: work on it. He chose not to work on the
Speaker 1: album because you know, he felt like Job was holding
Speaker 1: us hostage and he felt like he had done a
Speaker 1: lot for He's done a lot for job. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: for them not to you know, give him what he
Speaker 1: felt was his group back. I mean, that's your theoretical question.
Speaker 1: He has his bills, You have your bills. What happened
Speaker 1: if Farrell would have done that? And I would have
Speaker 1: done what if Crime River was Farrell but production as
Speaker 1: opposed to Diminlin production, and you guys was in what
Speaker 1: we call purgatory somewhat. Would you would have took it
Speaker 1: personal with Forrell? Or you would have because you didn't
Speaker 1: take it personal? No, no, you know what and I didn't.
Speaker 1: That was it wasn't even like it was a thing. No,
Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't have taken a personal number one,
Speaker 1: but that was that was that was for real on
Speaker 1: Yeah that lord, So so you know you want to
Speaker 1: so you understand why I'd be like, you know, I
Speaker 1: can look twice when when it don't feel like that,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: because he's been consistent for sure, like he listened, he
Speaker 1: really he stood on that too, and that would have
Speaker 1: been a big record for I feel like everything the
Speaker 1: Neptunes did was big for everybody who was affiliated, meaning us,
Speaker 1: And let's just keep it real. That's probably turned out
Speaker 1: millions of dollars to stand by, I'm just calculated on
Speaker 1: tow of millions of dollars. I don't feel for No,
Speaker 1: I don't feel because they lost a couple of bucks.
Speaker 1: You don't feel for millions and millions. He got tweeny.
Speaker 1: But I was just sitting here and what I'm saying right, well,
Speaker 1: he did that again. He did it again. Something hell
Speaker 1: you with Justin? Um y'all worked it out after no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we there There was never no issue like it was
Speaker 1: literally I didn't I don't even think Pharrell and Justin
Speaker 1: had an issue. It was just it was label ship
Speaker 1: was the head of the label and Pharrell, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a thing. And then then listen
Speaker 1: and even since then, even since then, that was that
Speaker 1: was Verry White at the time. Since then, it's like
Speaker 1: all it's all cool, like it's all up honestly, Like
Speaker 1: I see Barry. I talked to Barry. Everything is fine.
Speaker 1: And it was business too, like you know, like the
Speaker 1: same way I can see and speak about lawyers and
Speaker 1: contract everybody. I gotta you know, I eat that too
Speaker 1: for sure. For sure. Who go against who neptunes to
Speaker 1: go against and versus oh, everybody, they go against everybody, Yeah, everybody.
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna he's gonna win against Scott.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win against Scott. No, they're gonna win against Scott,
Speaker 1: he says the only person. Neptunes versus Vetrol woman. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I mean, I think, I
Speaker 1: mean I would if I'm if we're gonna talk with Neptunes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just stay with Legacy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like timber Damn, right, I think Neptunes and Timberland would
Speaker 1: be awesome. That's gonna be fire. I think so too,
Speaker 1: that'd be fire. Yeah, okay, well listen, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: I mean, and this, of course it doesn't matter, but um,
Speaker 1: it don't matter. But there was one time I believe
Speaker 1: the Neptunes on fort of the charts and Timberland on
Speaker 1: the other for they you know, something close within that
Speaker 1: range exactly. So I mean, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: don't know if they win, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: who would necessarily win, because it's not all about hits.
Speaker 1: If you notice that, it ain't about it's about cultural moments.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I think that'd be good. I
Speaker 1: mean it'd be good Timberland against that'd be great. But
Speaker 1: I think they can go against any then. I don't
Speaker 1: believe they're getting blown out by nobody. Blown out. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: They're not getting blown out by nobody. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fight. It's gonna be a fight with all of
Speaker 1: the best you want to name whoever. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Hell no, not you made the Prix. Sorry I heard
Speaker 1: this speak of ice cream is great? Um ship. I
Speaker 1: mean Jamaine Hill too, though, Like it's like he got
Speaker 1: a lot he catalog, But I don't know if the catalog.
Speaker 1: You know again, it's hits. It's hiss, hiss his not
Speaker 1: all them ships be cultural. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You've seen that ship like you've seen it. You've seen
Speaker 1: Kiss mix tape you down beat you down like you
Speaker 1: know that ain't billboard nothing, don't talk no charts millions.
Speaker 1: You could have put any million selling record against Kiss
Speaker 1: whenever you wanted to. When he did, who shot your freestyle?
Speaker 1: Call case closed? Curtains is over? So you know, if
Speaker 1: if you gotta look at you gotta look at versus
Speaker 1: really like that, Like versus is way more cultural than
Speaker 1: it is hits. To me, your battle to cay on versus,
Speaker 1: who would I want? I'm not doing it. Let's just
Speaker 1: just what I did about Kanye shut and I heard
Speaker 1: that's crazy too, crazy live stepping there. He's still mad
Speaker 1: at that Kanye. So he's stepping in all the way up.
Speaker 1: Every verse tis right now. I'm just telling you it's
Speaker 1: a million percent. He's gonna make sure you, like I
Speaker 1: respect that, YO, push your man. Let me just say something, man,
Speaker 1: you're definitely a legend. Thank you a person. I appreciate
Speaker 1: your person. Um, you know, you're a real person. You're
Speaker 1: a good person. But besides all that, um, that's a
Speaker 1: personal level. But you are one of the last of
Speaker 1: a dying breed, one of the last people that I know.
Speaker 1: You said that it doesn't matter about the beat, but
Speaker 1: it's it's for people like you and like nas. It's
Speaker 1: like it's always like sixties sevent of your lyrics first,
Speaker 1: because your lyrics, it's just it's just something that where
Speaker 1: we want to hear what you're gonna say first, then
Speaker 1: we say, okay to be this dope too. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and for you to you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because they called they they call that dinosaurs
Speaker 1: they called and for us to be but I'd say,
Speaker 1: you're inspiring a new breed, to be honest. They want
Speaker 1: to say, you know, yeah, but bro, that's that, that
Speaker 1: is the that is the foundation of this ship. This,
Speaker 1: this takes, this takes a skill set. Then can't nobody
Speaker 1: take that from me. I don't care how young, how old,
Speaker 1: I'm smoking everything until I'm tied, when I stopped competing
Speaker 1: and I've done, I'm cool. I ain't gonna just exist
Speaker 1: in this ship either. You know what I'm saying. But nah, bro, yeah,
Speaker 1: so so let me just keep you with your flowers.
Speaker 1: So I don't letting you know, man, we're proud of you.
Speaker 1: On this side of generation are people the people that
Speaker 1: really respect real hip hop, really respect you know, the
Speaker 1: content and and and I think about his twelve records
Speaker 1: these albums is ninety records right now now by me,
Speaker 1: you just all classic albums were ten twelve, I think
Speaker 1: it was eight or something like that. Not like so
Speaker 1: you even did it that right? Like short and sweet,
Speaker 1: look straight, look, everything is is dope. We respect you
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We want to thank you to your phrase,
Speaker 1: to give your flowers to your face, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And we got a number love for you
Speaker 1: before we get about here. Anything you want to say,
Speaker 1: anything you got coming on and um you know, just
Speaker 1: everybody go get that album is almost dry. I appreciate
Speaker 1: all the loving sport, um man, it's almost dry. Tour
Speaker 1: starting May twenty nine. Come check me out all over
Speaker 1: the country, um man, all the festivals. I'm gonna be there,
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Speaker 1: get on the bliss of YAO list? I want to
Speaker 1: be on the because listen, listen on just they just
Speaker 1: just invited me to the show and say they're gonna
Speaker 1: dress me and all that. So if we're the same size,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you a little just today, like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to keep up. I'm like, I ain't biging in me.
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Speaker 1: Talk camera, talking cameras. Let me just tell you something. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want this camera. I want to I don't let
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