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Speaker 1: when we introducing this next guest, he has he has

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Speaker 1: It's not to say that he's selling more drugs, but

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Speaker 1: and Swiss Beats produced the whole album, but he got someone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this album is really really like fine Wine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he comes from my era. So I wanted

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Speaker 1: and it's not there. This album is excellent. So then

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Speaker 1: when you hear the the man who represents black excellence, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I can't lie to you push up. I really did

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Speaker 1: look at the album and I wanted to do it,

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Speaker 1: And then it shut me up. I said, damn, he

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Speaker 1: we get, the hunger goes away. That's true. So I mean, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: was all it was all praise and like man, they

421
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: just happy that. It just felt like a college energy

422
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: and just people are just happy to be around them

423
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: and happy to see him. Um, I forgot shift. What

424
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: year was that? Sure? He on the phone? Um yeah yeah.

425
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: But but but I was liking in it too when

426
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: I go out and like when I do the after

427
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: parties and so on and so forth, it's a it's

428
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: a it kind of gets a dangerous thing and it's

429
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: like you know you you you got those who love

430
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: you on something like yo, yo, I'll rock with what

431
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: you're doing. Then it's always the yeah, you know, I

432
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: killing you know what. It's a different energy, and then

433
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: it turns into you know that, get a little dicey

434
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: and get a little you know, I gotta turn into this,

435
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: And it was just it was just tapping on another

436
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: another instance of call my bluff because even that person

437
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: can get it, Like I'm just like bro, that's where

438
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: my mindset was. But that mindset is like, that's a

439
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: real thing for me in real and real time outside,

440
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: like you run across that energy with what it is

441
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: that I do, whereas what what what what what Jake

442
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Cole does. It's like, man, it's like it's just a

443
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: different It's it's cool and it's lax, and and his

444
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: fans are just like he'll be riding bikes to the city.

445
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, he definitely but still

446
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: like Bob Molly is like like the hip hop and

447
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I love listen, I love my fans. I'm not you know,

448
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to uh, you know, talk down on

449
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: them at all, but I'm just saying there's a difference

450
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: in Okay, the rest said watch what you say you attracted.

451
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of coboys going to your joints, listen,

452
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: little down church, you to cheeny the car phones. You know.

453
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is that what happens to you? Yeah,

454
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: but that it's not that, it's just you know, you know,

455
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: you know before like you know well, and I'm saying

456
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: I think is sonically like lyricism sonically, it's it's all

457
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: on the same. For sure. You're saying it's the content

458
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: is attracting different energy, like the specific content that you're addressing,

459
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: not totally you are right, yeah, but um, it's like

460
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: I think they repeat this question to you all the time,

461
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: this question to jay Z all the time. They repeat

462
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: this questions the Jada kiss all the time, and it's like,

463
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: as much as you've grown, it's still that you know,

464
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: this is where I come from type of you know,

465
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: hustle rap. It's it's the cocaine references. And you know,

466
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: how is that throughout these years, like is this is

467
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: this this question always gonna come up or they understand

468
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: that it's a reference. Man, I don't mind the question

469
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: because I don't mind answering it. You know what I'm saying.

470
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: It's like I've been saying as of late, I'm trying

471
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: to be the Martin Scorsese of of street rap, you

472
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I want out, Like y'all

473
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: don't ask Martin Scorsese to make Going with the Wind,

474
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, you want him to make a gang conflict

475
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: with guns, mob killers, boom, and we all run to

476
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: the movie every time, we all doing whatever we're doing

477
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: to see it, talking about it and loving it. For

478
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: a lifetime. That's what happens. So it's like, you know,

479
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: for me, I look at myself like that, you know

480
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And it's like, man, this is like, bro,

481
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: this this is wrap that I know. I mean, how

482
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: I look at rap, man, Rap started in the street.

483
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: It started in It started from poverty and started it

484
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: started from despair. It started from just coming outside talking

485
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: about your environment, bro. Like, I don't understand why it's

486
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: an issue. I don't even understand why people talk about like,

487
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, what what my content is

488
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: versus what somebody else content is. It's like, no, we

489
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: want to like this is and and at this point

490
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: I've been in this twenty years, Like I'm like, man,

491
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm here to entertain a certain sector of people. I'm

492
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: not going out to like I'm not reaching out trying

493
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: to get new people and so on and so forth,

494
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: like and and I don't believe that it's just if

495
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: you're surface level listeners all cocaine service level. And I

496
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: don't think I'll write for surface level listeners. I write

497
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: for people who'll be like you overwind that back people

498
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: to say, I'll be winding a couple of times. Yes,

499
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: So let's le let's talk about the album. I want

500
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: to break down song from song at some point, but

501
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: before we get deep straight into the album. Yeah, I

502
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: want to ask something. Well, I've heard you on the

503
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club answer this. Um. Also, I believe I'm not

504
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: sure if you did ebro and them. You did ebro

505
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: on them right yesterday. Okay, I don't know if I've

506
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: seen it yet. Okay, but I've seen a couple of

507
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: interviews where this Jack Harlow song, Yeah, it's brought up. Yeah,

508
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, push what's up? Because you like

509
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: you like the only Donalds like this man has no

510
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: other losses anywhird? This man is the Michael Elvis. Okay,

511
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's a person. You made

512
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: that one, you know, I made it that this man

513
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: and he says revenge is it's not even a coachable

514
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: even though this verse could be old right, revenge. I

515
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: gotta get him back for that whatever he's I'm you know,

516
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I paraphrasing on Jack all Dry the body trying to

517
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: kill Jack, and it sounded like he was trying to

518
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: kill Jack coming for you. Yeah, what does push your

519
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: teeth say, even though it's old, it might be old. No, no, listen,

520
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, bro, like okay, it's it's sounds

521
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: when I say old. It sounded old old to me,

522
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: like just the flows, the raps, like it just wasn't

523
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't what it is that I think four years

524
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: later after what I did, that's not that wasn't like that.

525
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean like that didn't even phase me. But you

526
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: don't think because of the even though, like you said,

527
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: it sounds old, but the content of it was, Like

528
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: I ain't forgetting it. I'm coming from I don't care.

529
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't care what they forget, Like I don't care,

530
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: like bro, like for real, like I'm just I mean

531
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: just being totally totally honest. I don't give a fuck.

532
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: And I think they know it, like they know it.

533
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: All parties know it. Yeah, you know it. He know.

534
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm not playing with anybody. I'm not because you

535
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: did not show up with the concert. No, no, we

536
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: know he asked me to because because you know what,

537
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: because and it's not it was it was it's simply

538
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: because like it's at this point, none of it is

539
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: a game to me, like none of it and I'm

540
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: like I'm doing my best to just you know, let

541
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: bygones be bygones. I'm chilling. I'm good. I mean, look like,

542
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: listen to me, listen to my album Untouchable. You know

543
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you know, man, you know I

544
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: look at all of that is um and all of

545
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: that energy as still showing the effects of what it

546
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: is that I've done, real, real, for real, because because

547
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: really I don't, I don't even think about it. I don't.

548
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: And there's no bars on this album. I was looking

549
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: for that too. I was looking for this. My momm

550
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: is flawless without it, right, that's crazy. Anybody else would

551
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: have jumped on and not not me because I ain't

552
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: really playing like I'm really not. So everybody understands that's it. Okay,

553
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: So let me ask has Jake Prince ever weeks out

554
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: to you? Like how I spoke to j Prince numerous times? Man,

555
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: so so not about him? Okay, don't know, nobody talk

556
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: to me about him him? Because I also heard you

557
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: say you don't want to record with UM. I don't

558
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: want to be I'm gonna be honest, I don't want it.

559
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Let's just not even I don't I want to record.

560
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't want it. I'm cool.

561
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm cool without it. You don't want none, none, no, photo,

562
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: I'm cool. Photo want to say, No, you don't play

563
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: hockey with him, Canada, none of it. I'm cool like

564
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: I ain't playing. I'm gonna just go ahead and do

565
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: what I do. Put y'all that peace. I'm at peace.

566
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: So if right now you're hosting Saturday Night Live, that

567
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: was a wrong choice you hosted. You can't host that.

568
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: I've been saying, I don't know how that came out of.

569
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: You want this part of the club, right, they say,

570
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: there's one of the artists walking in here. They wanted

571
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: the other side of the club, right right next to

572
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: there they come. You see who it is. It's push

573
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: to leaven. No, but you're not. I'm never not stilling

574
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: in your hands. No, I don't want to listen. I

575
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: want nothing. I want I don't if as a person

576
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: who let's just let's just look at the face value. Yeah,

577
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: let's say everyone who actually said that, you guys sparred

578
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: right that you guys want to add it. Everybody says

579
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: you want right, most most of people who are lyrical

580
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: content especially after his meek male Thebacco. Most people say

581
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: that you want, so then why are you not willing

582
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: to say? You know what it was? I felt attacked

583
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: because things that I don't speak on and things that

584
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I won't speak on have happened since right that I'm

585
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: I just ain't wanna speak on it, but I ain't playing,

586
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: so for me, it ain't even about you know. I

587
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: feel like if it was just a rap thing and

588
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: it was what it was, you know that was cool.

589
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: You think that they went too far when they mentioned

590
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: your lady name or where was it the point where

591
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: it was like this is it? Like? Oh no? You know?

592
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I don't really talk about it,

593
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, like, you know, I feel like,

594
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: you know there were um, you know, I've been to

595
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: Canada before. I can't I'm banned from Canada because I'm

596
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm banned from Canada, Like I can't get back. I

597
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: can't get back over there, right really, yeah, I ain't

598
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: allowed to be go back over That's why. But because

599
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: what I think is when where they think that you

600
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: went too far? I don't care. I don't care they're

601
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: too far. I don't play like that. That's how you

602
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: don't play with me, right right right, that's why you

603
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: don't play with me. There is no too far. It's

604
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: not anything alone. It leaves me be, leave me be

605
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: because there's no too far. That's how it goes. But

606
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: that's the thing. No, no, no, they won't play. That's

607
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: the thing you felt like you went to I never

608
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: go to far. There's too far. There's no too far.

609
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely promise you. Did you ever feel like I never

610
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: felt nothing. And anybody who ever told me that I

611
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: was I went too far. I never spoke to me like, okay,

612
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: because let's be visited. Let's just be visited. How everyone

613
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: thinks this started was it started from the M to

614
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: me too, I don't know. I don't even know at

615
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: this point. No, no, for for real, for me, and

616
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: this that's what me from the outside of looking at

617
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: that's an insider, that's an outside of it. Though. For me,

618
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: when you go all the way back to all of that,

619
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I remember just a very dark time for me just musically, um,

620
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: not having you know, being and uh what you call it,

621
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: um like a label drama or whatever and um and

622
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: I remember I mean when you go back and mr

623
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: me too, you're talking about the Wayne thing, and that's

624
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: what it was. It trickle down. But yeah, because I

625
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: mean there was like some Vibe issue where he was,

626
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: you know, we was, you know, we're just I think

627
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: we're just done. Um what's up on? What happened to

628
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: that boy or something? You know, maybe a little bit yeah,

629
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: burning on later on down the line, people were telling

630
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: Wayne he was, you know, trying to talk dope like

631
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: the clips or drugs and and and he wore babe

632
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: like the clips. I never said that, you know what

633
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I think just at this particular time,

634
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: it was a rough time for us because we was

635
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: going through label drama whatever you remember that, like the

636
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: four year hiatus and and so then there was a

637
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: there was a Vibe article where he you know, just

638
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: spoke to that. But he just spoke about us in

639
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: a very um yeah, like a down you know, like

640
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: down talking. And I'm like, damn, we already going through

641
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: were going through and you know, you're not even bright

642
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: enough for smart enough at the you know, at the time,

643
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: like I ain't. I ain't got no problem with Wayne.

644
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, just so we clear, I ain't. You know.

645
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: It's so Wayne is that same artist at that club.

646
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna gonna you might not necessarily, but I it's cool,

647
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: like it, it's cool, but it's no problem. But I

648
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: just you know, you never know, you just know how

649
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: it is. But you know. So that's what for me

650
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: back then, what you know what started? Um, I feel

651
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: like everything else was just you know, as of late,

652
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: it was a lot of like just the Kanye drama

653
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: because next to it, depending in me, would have been

654
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: like what you doing this concert for? Was the name

655
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: of the concert? I don't remember, Yeah, but like what

656
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: you doing this concert for? We went to ball depending

657
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: but you know, at the same time, you gotta I reckon.

658
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I know how to compartmentalize everything. That's that's my gift.

659
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: J got together. It was needed for hip hop. Do

660
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: you think that? No, I don't even think they make

661
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: good music together. That's the wildest part. Like, ain't even

662
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: like a hot record? Name it glow what? What glowing up? When?

663
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Come on? Why? I gotta google it? Come on? So

664
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: it's not like for real for me, just them doing

665
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: what they did, I felt like that was good for

666
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: them because it was hard. Listen. I thought Kanye looked amazing.

667
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: One like he looked. I mean because the Scotty just

668
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: showed you know, our artist with the E you know

669
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like next level? What what that? Whatever?

670
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Is that like? But with that being said, like you know,

671
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't damn, I forgot where I was at. You

672
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: said you thought Kanye looked good, but oh yeah, I thought,

673
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think that was good for them, Like

674
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: I think that was yeah, Like I you know, and

675
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't ever put no type

676
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: of pressures nowhere. I don't you know, I'll stay out

677
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: of the situation because they playing, they're playing, they play

678
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: an industry game. I think Kanye said he's on a

679
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: professional level and that's and that's cool and that's great

680
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: and that's like you know, I feel like I feel

681
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: like that's gonna work for for them and what it

682
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: is that they do what you no, I'm cool. I'm

683
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: just I'm just over here, bro. I know exactly what

684
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: my lane is. I know exactly what I'm doing. I

685
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: know exactly who I want to be with, who I

686
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: want to make records with. I know what I'm not doing.

687
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: I know what damages my brand what doesn't. And there's

688
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: absolutely no value in that for me because immediately when

689
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: we heard that can wrist on uh and then hold

690
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: set a blue bird money. They go again, Oh no,

691
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want that. No no no, no, no no

692
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no no no no

693
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: no no no no I blue bird money. Y'all talking

694
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: Twitter feed feed bird you know bird food is you

695
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: know they called the feed. But but you got me,

696
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm just saying like that. But that was

697
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: the first Yeah, but it was just I knew that

698
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: was but I just knew it was not understanding. I

699
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: was into all the gossip. Noo, he's the other fans

700
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: at frequency that really brought into it until what's my

701
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: man name, young g Yeah, actually went on. It was

702
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: like guys, I mean that's when I knew. That's when

703
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I knew it was like it probably got too loud

704
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: when I saw Guru say something, cause I'm like, I've

705
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: seen it, but I'm like, whatever, ain't that's gonna blow over.

706
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: But it wasn't real because it's kind of like, just

707
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: think about the people that you have beef with and

708
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: you survived Little Way Birdman and Drake and you have

709
00:43:53,000 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: no like scars. For me, it's none, none, but it's

710
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: all up. It's all up. There's no with me. I

711
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: have no issues man, And you're bad from Canada. I

712
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: thought you was just saying that. Oh no, no, no,

713
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm serious and this is this I did you know?

714
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: How did you know he was bad? My my, my

715
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: manage over here told me what happened. Well, I mean,

716
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into that, but down Trump asked

717
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: him do nothing because Trump, and um, yeah, what what

718
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: you said? Trump? You're talking about you can put it

719
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: in here. What are you talking about? So you said,

720
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: let's just be clear. You're saying you went to what

721
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: is called customs. They you turn down, turn out, I

722
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: can turn out of the border. Oh so you filled

723
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: out for your visa and they yes, what did you

724
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: do in cant I didn't do nothing. I went to

725
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: my show. You know it was rolling people at this

726
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: show perform that song. I performed. No, I didn't. I

727
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: didn't even get and I got on and I got

728
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: on my way. You know, it was cool. That's playing

729
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: a different game. You get a nicke a bath from

730
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: the country. That's a little next level. That's a little

731
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: bit that's a little different. On this listen, that's a

732
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: little different. I ain't gonna I could do it. I

733
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: would do it too, though, you would definitely do that.

734
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: Definitely sold off show, Jesus. So in no world, we're

735
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: never gonna squash this. Hopefully in one world. No, I don't.

736
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: There's nothing for me to squash. I've done it all,

737
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: it's done. I'm done. Yeah, I'm finished. I'm cool. Yes,

738
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: that's nothing for me to do. That's a beautiful thing, man,

739
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: because gratulate that's positive. Really you guys the flowers, hey, man, uh,

740
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: we don't know if you know. Our show was about

741
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: giving people they flower and we one million percent want

742
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: to give you your flowers to your face. How great

743
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: you are, how you standing up the time. Man, I've

744
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: seen how you came and for you to still be

745
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: at the level of relevancy, for people to still for

746
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: you to make an album the way you may and

747
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: not like I said, because I'm your friend, because I'm

748
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: I feel like a family member. Especially we all under

749
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: the thing Snoop said, Well, he said, we're all under

750
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: the dray tree, and we're all under the neptune tree,

751
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: under the rape away leave a Bark or even the

752
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: fucking route. We're all part of the tree. And so

753
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I'm proud of you.

754
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I'm proud of your brother.

755
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: Every time I see you, every time i've seen him

756
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years, I've been always drunk

757
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: and he's always prayed over me. It's been the weirdest.

758
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: That's right. The apoint he's come in here, he'd be

759
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: crowding you right now. We're in the middle, and I

760
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: just want to tell y'all, yo, man's for standards as

761
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: of time. The way you have and the way you

762
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: are still enjoying this game is still being a bar lord.

763
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: And I can't even find a whack ball. I've been

764
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: looking like Dean slip here. He didn't slip it and

765
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: you haven't. And I just want to say that is abnormal.

766
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: That is not a normal thing. And slute you, my brother,

767
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: Thank you. We want to yes, yes literally literally gave

768
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: yourself fly, So man, that is crazy. Before we're gonna

769
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: create time and slip, I just want to go through

770
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: this playlist all Stewart, go to go hit number one

771
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: before me. It's in your group chat fun black it ristone.

772
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Uh Well, Brambleton Okay, yeah, that's one. Yeah, okay, let's

773
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: talk about that sets off the album? Yeah. Um, well, first,

774
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: you know, Brambleton Um set off the album. You know,

775
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: strategically I put that there because Big started Life after

776
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: Death with his story and I always felt like, man,

777
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, I've never first of all, I never do

778
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: many stories. And then I was like, man, I actually

779
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: got one, and I felt like it was strong enough

780
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: to just just set the tone. You know what I'm saying. Um,

781
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Brambleton Avenue is as a place in um Norfolk, Virginia.

782
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: UM youth coming up. My mom worked on it, you

783
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You could you know, I could

784
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: go see her young you know, young kid going to

785
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: see her. I can see sweepe w across the street

786
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: in a project called Young's Park, and you know, just outside,

787
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, being great, whatever the case may be. Um,

788
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, the song itself, the song itself was

789
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: just for me, just describing a relationship, you know, describing

790
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: a relationship I had in the street. My former manager.

791
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: He was on Glad not too long ago. Oh is

792
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: that the same person that you made the snitch? Uh?

793
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like the Snitch record. I feel

794
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: like the Snitch record was like an amy, but it

795
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: was just like a lot. I feel like the Snitch acronym.

796
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, the Snitch record itself was just like a

797
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: All the just instances and ship that was going on

798
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: this record, particularly right here, was like yo, Like after

799
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: seeing after seeing the interview, I was like, damn, Like

800
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: that's you know you described you described he was on

801
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: TV talking about what because she was on Glad TV

802
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: and he spoke about how like he said, um, I

803
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: believe one of the quotes was of everything was about him,

804
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: like you know, the raps were about him and uh

805
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: and what else was it? It was? It was just

806
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: a couple of different things that I was like, damn, man,

807
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: Like you know, I never I never I would see

808
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: somebody that I've been you know, so you know, down

809
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: with or whatever entrenched in like all types of ship,

810
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: never down talk or try to downplay me like I

811
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: never I would not like wherever we're stand right now,

812
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: I would never do it. I've never done it, you

813
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I just didn't, you know,

814
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: so I took the time that I was just you know,

815
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: I was telling for all about the whole situation or whatever.

816
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: He was like, man, that's the song right there. He's like,

817
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: that's a song. And you know, I was like, you know,

818
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give like a real context to

819
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: what my view of our relationship and what it was.

820
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: Then you know what, I'm like, just what our relationship was,

821
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: what it was in the streets, and and I wanted

822
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: to make that record because I feel like it was

823
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: a it was it speaks to loyalty, like it speaks

824
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: to loyalty and being loyal and and and understanding the

825
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: idea of team like back then, and and and and

826
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, just when all the street ship was going on,

827
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: and I always looked at it as a team, all

828
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: of us was a team. Now you may have this much,

829
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: I could have this much, They could have this much,

830
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: but all of it and everybody was working to for

831
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: the betterment of everybody, and everybody had a role. That

832
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: was the thing. Never looked at, you know, never been envious. Never,

833
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: That's just my whole ship. I ain't never been envious.

834
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: And nobody musically, none of that. That's just not me. Um.

835
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: I always know how important my role is to whatever

836
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: situation it is, Like, you know, even being a good music.

837
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't sell the most records. I ain't never been

838
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't sell the most record more than

839
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: anybody else who's been over there whatever. Always Still you know,

840
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm me, like, I know what I bring to the table, um,

841
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I just that song was just for

842
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: for for the guys who honestly are in these positions

843
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: and in these roles and are doing anything and you

844
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: think that you you know, you think that, y'all. You

845
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: know you're you're you're focused, and you're determined on what

846
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing. You're getting your money, your

847
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: man getting his money, bla blah, and you're thinking his

848
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: teamwork and and and in their mind they call it.

849
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, you're working for them. And you know, ultimately,

850
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: as soon as the roles change or whatever the case

851
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: may be, you see who gets to you see people

852
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: true colors. Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, heavy song, heavy song. I

853
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Listening to that just ain't gonna my

854
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: head now because again I wasn't listening to it for that.

855
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: I was listening to it. Yeah, I was just listening

856
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: to totally. I'm just looking at the art and I'm like,

857
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: it's no way that Scott can still be this good.

858
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Like I like, I'm sorry I was down because I

859
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: wasn't downing you'd like to doubt you, but I was like,

860
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: it's no way because it's just a level of success.

861
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: But you know, we we are the error that is

862
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to take We're we're we are

863
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: the error that is going to be able to see

864
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: if hip hop can be progressive as it ages. Like

865
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like this is the time

866
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: where it figures itself, act, go to real distance, you know,

867
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: get on our YouTube, rolling stones whatever. I think like

868
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: the four four fourth album kind of helped that. I

869
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, but but that even still that was

870
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: the hope is one that he's before our error. He's

871
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: wonder for us. Yeah, so you need to like, and

872
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm talking about for the genre to look like it

873
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: can do. What to do? He dispeccially and he called

874
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 1: on early. But we are the class that is gonna

875
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: be myself ya you know everybody, you know, everybody within

876
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: this time frame, it's gonna be the one to show

877
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: how far this ship can go a real so so

878
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: so it's not I don't think it's that crazy like

879
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, being you know, still competing, like because we

880
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: were still competitive, like you said, we're still young, we

881
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: are like and when that comes the spirit of competition

882
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: and creativity has no age limits, right sure, And however

883
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: you tap into it if it's being competitive, some people

884
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: do it differently, you know, just to tap into that creativity.

885
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: For sure. I saw number two. Let the smokers shot

886
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: the coop. Let the smoker shot the coops. Man. That

887
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: was that was me asking for real to give me

888
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: his best best glaciers of ice type beat he could

889
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: he could ever make. Um, you know? That was that

890
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: was that Actually that that record actually came from Hit

891
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: Factory again at six in the morning. But we was

892
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: at hit Factory because you know at Miami, Miami Hit Factory,

893
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: and we were like, um, you know, we have been

894
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: working out the house for a little while and I

895
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: felt like he just wanted a different changes scenery, like

896
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, sort of exhausted the energy there and we

897
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: started going to Hit Factory earlier. Baby, don't working out

898
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: hit Factory to I ain't seen nobody that is not

899
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: even being funny actually, but you know, but just you know,

900
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: just just working um again. And it was it was

901
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, it was a it was a thing for me,

902
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, being being an actual being, an actual student.

903
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: Um with the flow, you know what I'm saying, Like no,

904
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: you can't you know, right and right and right and

905
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: and like ah no, I ain't know where the cadence at,

906
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: where the bounce you know what I'm saying. And then yeah,

907
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: like you know it might be an initial initial four

908
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: bars here like yeah, but it ain't no bounce there

909
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: and ain't sticky to the ain't sticky to the track?

910
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: Is it just y'all two in the studio together? Probably yeah,

911
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: this day, this particularly, I don't know if Chat made

912
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: it yet. I don't know if Chat he he did,

913
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: he did. I think he did a little co producing

914
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: on some stuff too as well. Okay, um dreaming dreaming,

915
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: dreaming of the past, dreaming in the past. Um man,

916
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: I actually stole that one because, um, let's talk about

917
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: the theft. Yeah, because because you know, a lot of

918
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: times me and you work on album simultaneously. So he

919
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: got a folder, I got a folder. You know. Hell

920
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: he picked all the beats and be like okay, that's

921
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: your folder, that's my folder. And from other producers. Um,

922
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: some his and yeah, and just you know, just a

923
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: hard driver that he has of just joints and he'll

924
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: he'll he'll pick stuff that he thinks is a good

925
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: enough skeleton and for me to rhyme to. He he accidentally,

926
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: I think, played hit that beat and I was like, oh,

927
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: that's crazy, like let me let me get that, and

928
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I love it. You know it's mine,

929
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: this is and that, and I kept asking for it.

930
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: So ultimately he um, I noticed he still hadn't wrote

931
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: the song yet, and I was like, damn, man, you

932
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: don't like the song. Let me get the song. And

933
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: he finally let me get it, and I was just like, listen,

934
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: why don't you why don't you just put like, you know,

935
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: eight bars on the end of it or you know

936
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like that way I could lock in

937
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: the song. If he knew he was on it, then

938
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: then I could get it. So that's that's what we did,

939
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: and then it became your yea. I first recorded it

940
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: with the attentions going on no no, no, I didn't

941
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: even know. I like once I once I got it,

942
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Once I got it and put the verses on it.

943
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: He Um he heard it was like man, I can't

944
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 1: be on that. And I was like, no, you can't.

945
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Like what's up, just get yours off? And I gave

946
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: him the comparison of Big Big coming in for like

947
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: three bars on Little Kim Queen Bitch, and I was like,

948
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, everything you do don't gotta be

949
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: heavy lifting. You already produced to be Why you gotta

950
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: have it? Ain't all that like. And I feel like

951
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: that's why the record wasn't written in the first place.

952
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: It was you know, it was heavy. You know, you

953
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: gotta go in on that joint. He probably taking his

954
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: time whatever. I'm like, broa give it to me. Get

955
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: yours off. You can get yours off in four bars

956
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: now before we go, because I want to go right

957
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: back into the album. But before we get into that.

958
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: Who was you at when you see ye say Shaw

959
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: was the worst thing he's up? Side down? Was? I

960
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: think I was at the crib? Yeah, I think at

961
00:59:50,760 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: the crib um. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, you know,

962
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, um, they'll be having they'll

963
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: be having a little they their issues, bro, Like you know,

964
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, listen, man, you can have issues with you man,

965
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: people people. You know, he he's a different different back

966
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: and forth, you know what I'm saying. So they was

967
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: having their issues and I guess he felt, you know,

968
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,479
Speaker 1: they need to get it off. And we don't see

969
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: him that often, you know, doing like you you got

970
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: you got the interview hit me to but yeah, you know,

971
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: um and I feel like, um, you know, he probably

972
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: was just getting whatever whatever he felt off his chest.

973
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: But they they they be having a little back and

974
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: force as well. And then it was it wasn't a

975
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: call did you got for Big Sean after that direct or? No? Um,

976
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: then you got to see him back on drink big No. No,

977
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: I didn't get no call. I didn't. I don't think

978
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: I got a call. Um, Damn I did. I know

979
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: I did, I didn't. I mean I didn't discuss it.

980
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't discuss it, man, Like that's that's their ship. Man.

981
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: You know why I say that because other than you

982
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: be what you know over y'all, I feel like you're

983
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: the most level minded. I'm for sure the most level mind. Like,

984
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: let's just be sure the most the other guy, I'm

985
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 1: very much everyone, I'm fair level level minded. I don't

986
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't meddle stay I'm never gonna be

987
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: on another record, said Cutty, please just clear this strong.

988
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: Please cut I know, I know, I know you because Cutty,

989
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, Cutty's like Cutty my brother. Like Cutty's like, man,

990
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: he really gonna stand on what it is that he

991
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, whatever, whatever it is that

992
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: he had an issue with, he gonna staying on that.

993
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: So man, you don't even know, like he was the

994
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: last person cleared on the album, Like you know what

995
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, so you know, you're getting down to

996
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: the wire, You're getting like because he was holding right

997
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm in the studio. I'm in the

998
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: studio doing like radio drops and he called me and

999
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, please, I know, I know, but just

1000
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, why why did you know? Because the label

1001
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: I told you that he was Yeah, so I you know,

1002
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard. After a while, like when I'm

1003
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just wondering, like, you know, what's the

1004
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, what's the progress with the album as far

1005
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: as turning it in and handed in because the music

1006
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,479
Speaker 1: have been done. So I'm like I'm trying to figure

1007
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: out what's the days gonna be, you know, just and

1008
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: I can't get these answers and nobody's saying nothing for

1009
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: a long time. Everybody just being now, you know, we're

1010
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: just getting it together. And then it finally got to

1011
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: come out there it was cutting, and I was like, damn.

1012
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: So he ended up calling me and you know, just

1013
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: just telling me like you know, um, just telling me

1014
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: how he felt and telling me he was he's gonna

1015
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: clear it and you know, it's never nothing about me,

1016
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: and you know, but he was like, yo, this this

1017
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: the last one with me. I heard you had hired

1018
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: a video director and everything. I hired a video director.

1019
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: I've seen the video director the other night. Seeing him

1020
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: the other night, told me, uh, you know, told me

1021
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: how they got had the treatment together me me, and

1022
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: you picked this predicted particular dude, you know, and he

1023
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: was like no, no, no, he was like you know,

1024
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: and everything just blew up. I was like, yeah, and

1025
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever gonna do it. So

1026
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: you got to hear the information prior to it being public.

1027
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: What's that that that? Yeah? Last? Ye? So he actually

1028
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: called you and then send the tweet out that like

1029
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: I never I know, man, that's the you know, cutting

1030
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: fans is rabid, like they are rabbid as soon as

1031
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: he does something, say something and go crazy. I'm gonna

1032
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you all. Uh, I'm gonna

1033
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: tell you, um something that Cutty differ for me that

1034
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. I was just like

1035
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: in this weird space, right, and um, I think I was.

1036
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: I was on tour with the group called Mastercraft, remember that,

1037
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: remember recorded that joining at our studio Mastercraft, and they

1038
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: were like a Canadian like d M Man and they

1039
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: wanted me to do it. So I was in this

1040
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: like weird world and I would just go and just

1041
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: did tonight show like a whole bunch of these what work.

1042
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: It was like a little crazy year of my life, right.

1043
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: But I wasn't going to like hip hop clubs and

1044
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't definitely wasn't going to like real world hip

1045
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: hop clubs and cut I think I forget how cutting

1046
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: out in contact with me or how we even spoke

1047
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: and he said you'll come to my show tonight, and

1048
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like for what, Like in

1049
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: my mind I said for what, I didn't think what

1050
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: to them, but I was like, how I identified with

1051
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: your audience. I'm this guy that's over here doing this

1052
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: different type of music at this point, like where did

1053
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: this correlate? And he brought me out and then he

1054
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: had me do all these neptune records. I don't know

1055
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: if you remember that. And he was like, well is

1056
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: God in our world? And you brought God? So your

1057
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: God in our world? And I had never thought up

1058
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: like that in this Hi the crownd with me doing

1059
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: like courting fucking purgatory and hip hop purgatory and that

1060
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: this hits the crowd that for real and kind of

1061
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: like made this whole audience and I can still be

1062
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: who I am, and and and and Kid Cutty was

1063
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: the first person to show me that your brother, you

1064
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: your God in this audience because we we we looked

1065
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: at the audience like we're those people were bonzoes ourselves.

1066
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: He was like all those guys, you know, they were

1067
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: backpacks and you know they do cocaine in the bathroom.

1068
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: Is different, differ different, you know, you know, but not

1069
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: realize audience is okay, okay, the record Neck and Wrist

1070
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: don't live now. First off, let's just be clear. You're

1071
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: using drug dealers anonymous. Yeah, you're using this So this

1072
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: is favorite dose. Yeah, it's not favorite, right, Yeah, hey, man,

1073
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: here's my ship. This is his favorite number two. They

1074
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: just don't get a little favorites from the guard. Man.

1075
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: It's the man as y'all making the record. You're saying,

1076
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: we're calling the guard as you're making the record or you.

1077
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: As soon as I lay diverse. As soon as I

1078
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: lay diverse, the hook is there. I was like listening

1079
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: for Mattes so he has a space. A matter of fact, though,

1080
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: it was like the bridge everything, and I was like,

1081
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: just leave him open space. And man, I just emailed

1082
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: it to him. See me personally, the name of the

1083
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: record would have scared me to send it to him,

1084
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: because you know, neck and Risk don't lie. Yeah, I've

1085
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: when I had drinks with him one time he had

1086
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: on just the light three point five not a stone

1087
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: inside it was it was believe it's a paddock um

1088
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: uh factory. Though they called it the poplo Escobar or

1089
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: something like this. I didn't even want to ask point

1090
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: five day. That was the that was the That's the

1091
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: only reason I call him though, honestly, I mean about

1092
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: music when it comes to music. When it comes to music,

1093
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: because I wrote a second verse for it, it just

1094
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: didn't hit like I wanted it to hit so um

1095
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: and I only reached like I said, I own. They

1096
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: reach out to him musically when I feel like the

1097
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: song needs an uptick, like to take it to the

1098
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: next level. And we got Jupiter, yeah for sure. And

1099
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean neck and wrisk don't lie. I knew. I

1100
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna say twelve things that I can't say.

1101
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I could. There's other

1102
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: artists who could have been on it, but they're not

1103
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna They're not gonna say too much. Yeah, yeah, we

1104
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: got different sobs to like I was done. I was done,

1105
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: like I needed all. I was done. But yeah, so

1106
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: I just reach out to him. I reach out to him,

1107
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: you know when I feel about Spade for you just

1108
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: in case, you know, to celebrate your album. You know

1109
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, you know, yeah, you know. I

1110
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: reach out when I when I feel like he can

1111
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: add something to the add something to the song that

1112
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: I just can't do. And and it was dope because

1113
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: you've got the guys got the premiere on our Heart

1114
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: every hour on the hour. So the person didn't like y'all,

1115
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: they got, they got to not like your more because

1116
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: every hour on. I mean explain that to an artist,

1117
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: you gonna be right back into the album. But is

1118
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: that like a plus when you could be able to

1119
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: just go straight out of the gate and get it

1120
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: on on on the radio because of you know, who

1121
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: you are and the person you have on it. Yeah,

1122
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think that. Um. I think that. Um.

1123
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: You know, when when you can when you can get

1124
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: a record on radio and and people and it gets

1125
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: that head start, that jump start. Um, you usually do

1126
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 1: that in trying to make sure that that record is

1127
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: gonna go like really you know, try to chart some

1128
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: on and so forth, and you still feel that radio

1129
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: has that impact day. Yeah, I think so. I think so.

1130
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: I think I think um, I think radio is very important. Um.

1131
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: I think for what it is that we do, man,

1132
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: we need to check off every box what I'm saying, Yeah,

1133
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, like we need to check off

1134
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: every box. And that was that was something that like

1135
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: just out of respect of who it was on the song.

1136
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really fighting like nah, at the end

1137
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: of the day, I want people to get a song

1138
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: it needs that look, I mean, the profile of the

1139
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: of the artist on it, the features, you know, him

1140
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: and Forelis is too high for not to get that. Look,

1141
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily make radio records, you know what I'm saying.

1142
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: But then the video, it's gonna be like a headache

1143
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: the video. We we we're not gonna do a video,

1144
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy video? You know what's crazy which

1145
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: people would appreciate if you was to do a video

1146
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: where you're not even in there. Oh no, we we

1147
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: we will do something like that. But I'm saying, I'm

1148
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, for people thinking we're gonna shoot like hovers

1149
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: coming to sit on a set video, It's not happening.

1150
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: It's not happening. Yeah, which I mean me, I would

1151
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 1: have shot it in his house, you know, just so

1152
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. But nah, but you know, end

1153
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: of the day, man, I think that I think that

1154
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: record had the impact and it and it talked to

1155
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: our core, my core and his core. I think they're

1156
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah. Yeah, so let's move on to the

1157
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 1: next record just so you remember, Yeah, just so you

1158
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: remember who you're dealing with. That's uh, that's the rap

1159
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 1: moment on the album to me, like the heavy rat moment,

1160
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: uh stripped down beat and you know, it's one of

1161
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: my favorite records, but it stayed in more of that

1162
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: mixtape lane. You know, M just barring out, barring out.

1163
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know how how many how many lines

1164
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: it is, but it's a lot. Okay, let's go to

1165
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: the next record, Diet Coke, Diet Coke. Here's the question

1166
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: I asked about this. What did y'all call Joey Crack?

1167
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: And before this, no, we just sampled him. He got

1168
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: to hear it with us, like, um, like damn, you

1169
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: know what somebody might have told him, Okay maybe yeah,

1170
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: but we dropped as a single, so you gotta clear it.

1171
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: So yeah, so probably in the clearance process he he knew,

1172
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, but yeah, the record was done and he

1173
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: was like, nah, you gotta put Joe Crack. In fact,

1174
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: Joe on the front of that though Yesterday's prey. Yeah yeah,

1175
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: he was like, I gotta start like that. That's that's

1176
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: to me, is is Jay's biggest um you know his

1177
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: um Yeah, that's where his genius comes from. His instincts.

1178
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: Like it's fast, Like you know what I'm saying, Like

1179
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: when when whenever he's in the moment and his musically

1180
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: and his instincts kick in, You're definitely gonna get a

1181
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: gem out of like what it is that that he's

1182
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: trying to make or create for you for him who

1183
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: said black and white video and he's gonna dance like

1184
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: that's the whole, the whole thing. He saw the whole

1185
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: He saw the listen to listen, change my outfit. I

1186
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 1: didn't have on the leather he wanted me to have

1187
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: on the leather I had on like some type of veg. Nah,

1188
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: you need the leather to Craig mac big pocket. You

1189
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: know you got to have it. But but yeah, like

1190
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: he um, he saw the whole vision for that. And

1191
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: once the record was done, the video was shot the

1192
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 1: next day. So he was like, no, y'all get in here,

1193
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: y'all go, you to find a space, go do it.

1194
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know eight nine was on set. This

1195
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: is definitely m budget. Yeah your face, yeah, just now, okay,

1196
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: hold on, where were you want to ask this one?

1197
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: Rock and roll? Rock and roll heard it's a perfect day,

1198
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: perfect day. Everybody was there, smoked up. I just do

1199
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: that out there, ain't I don't know that pot. Everyone

1200
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: was cutty, justself robbed in the studio. Ja, it's already,

1201
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: this is already down. This is a perfect day, perfect record. Yeah, um,

1202
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, um, just really good day. Um. Yeah. Yeah.

1203
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: He just was like he got on the NPC and

1204
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: start chopping the Beyonce one plus one sample and you know,

1205
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: like you said, Cutty came through. Um, the only thing

1206
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: he couldn't find. Yeah, but the only thing you couldn't

1207
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: find on that day, um was the drums. And so

1208
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 1: you know it takes me a second just to write anyway.

1209
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: So um, you know, by the time he was like, Yo,

1210
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: sending this to Farrell, let him put his drums on it.

1211
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: So that's the only record they worked on collaborating. That's

1212
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: the only record it was because of that, because he

1213
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out the drums. Yeah, I mean, he just

1214
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: he just didn't have like I remember just going through

1215
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: drums and none of it was hitting to his liking.

1216
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: None of it was hitting to his liking. And he

1217
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, send this to send this to p like,

1218
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: tell him put his drums on it. Because had he

1219
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: not figured had he figured out the drums, it might

1220
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: have been a collaborative record, right right, It wasn't you know,

1221
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't supposed to be Like he he'd be in

1222
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: the moment lack of a better term for back then,

1223
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be like a side B side, right,

1224
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: was it? That's supposed to be to be Okay, for sure,

1225
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: that's good for this this next record. I feel like,

1226
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: and let's be so we're not getting the kid cutting

1227
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: and Kanye video, and if we do get it, it's

1228
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: could be in separate rooms because that can still I

1229
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: would like, I mean, listen to performing really well, so

1230
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: I think we should. I mean I talked to I

1231
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: talked to Cutty yesterday and just was like telling them

1232
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: how how crazy this song is doing. He's like, no,

1233
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, I know I love that record. This isn't

1234
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: that so master to this time? You know what? Yeah? Yeah,

1235
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I think should do it. They

1236
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: don't have to be in the same we've we've done it,

1237
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: We've done this. They don't gotta be yeah cool, let's

1238
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: go to the next one. For some reason, I feel

1239
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: like this is one of your top three or the

1240
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: album Call my Bluff, Yeah, call my bluff, Just call

1241
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: my bluff for sure is top three for me. Um

1242
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: simply because it was it was work, it was real work,

1243
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: and again it was like you know again me taking

1244
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: direction and like you know, really hopping in the character

1245
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: and really just trying to execute, um, execute what it

1246
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: is that P wanted me to, you know what what

1247
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: he feels is gonna level me up musically. Um man.

1248
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: You know, the the whole idea of the record um

1249
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: came from. I thought I was gonna have an issue

1250
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 1: with somebody, right, and I was telling, I was telling

1251
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: for real about it, and my man had called me,

1252
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, you know I heard it

1253
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: about you know it might be something blas blah blah.

1254
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: He was like, well, you know, his girl be trying

1255
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: to fuck me all the time. And he was like

1256
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: he was like yeah, she'd be in my DMO room.

1257
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: Like he was like yeah all the time. He said,

1258
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: So I'm a sucker, he's I'm a taper. He said,

1259
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: we don't have fun with it. We can't have fun,

1260
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: like we canna have fun with this whole ship because

1261
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 1: he was kill him right. And then he was like

1262
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,759
Speaker 1: and you know, and and and if you go crazy,

1263
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: but if if you get crazy or whatever. He sent

1264
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: me to addresses. He was like, you know, it can

1265
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 1: go ever I thought about it. I'm thinking to myself,

1266
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: like I'm not even on it, like like I'm not,

1267
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: I ain't even tripping like that. But I knew it myself, like, yo,

1268
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: if I even entertain this. I was excited about it

1269
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: the first and then I was like, if I entertained it,

1270
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: this is a false that I can't really turn off

1271
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna play at all. So um, needless

1272
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: to say, I told I was telling pe about it,

1273
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 1: and that's where the the nonchalant and I can get

1274
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: it done. I can't have that, can have it happened

1275
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: that joker energy, nonchalant. You know what I'm saying, it's

1276
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: it's my way. If I really wanted to be my way. Um,

1277
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: attitude comes from in the joint. I wouldn't have thought that. Yeah,

1278
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the real backstory, all right. So

1279
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: scrap it off, scrape it off the tail, scrape it

1280
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: off the top. I just man, the record was the

1281
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: track of so was was fun. That's that's your radio

1282
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: record to me, you think so to me, to me,

1283
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: that's what I want to see you in, motherfucking and Grilla,

1284
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: Oh mangoes on the y'all chair, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1285
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I think that.

1286
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: I think I think that that's it. I mean, you know,

1287
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: I think it's fired. I mean, listen, it's performing crazy.

1288
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, I feel like I

1289
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: feel like Oozy is the king of the youth for real.

1290
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: I feel like Don Tolliver is um when it comes

1291
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: to the melodies. I can't go on my Explore page

1292
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: and ain't a girl putting on makeup to Don Tolliver's music. Wow, fire,

1293
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He just he he's talking

1294
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: at that frequency that people rocking with girls are rocking with,

1295
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: so you you you could be right. I'm just you know,

1296
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 1: you gotta see how do these joints? You know how

1297
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: it turns out? Oh? Hear me clearly? Yeah, hear me clearly. Man,

1298
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. This is this is real talk.

1299
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody here knows this. I probably started

1300
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: working with for a reale. I ain't the seven that

1301
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: had to be because it dropped the Remember back then,

1302
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: we had to record a year in evance right as

1303
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: much as I've ever been around, for as much as

1304
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: it gave me one of the first pair of babes,

1305
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: and I worried and everyone laughed at me because they

1306
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: said those look like freak up towns right to never

1307
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: one time, and it's all of these years, has Nego

1308
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: ever said Hi to me? Wow, God, we've been the same,

1309
01:20:53,600 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 1: we've been. I've never once He's never like said him.

1310
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: I might be just as guilty. Yeah, Like I don't

1311
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, I might be just as guilty because I've

1312
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 1: never probably never said hi back because I never felt

1313
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: like I never felt like his energy permitted me to

1314
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: say hi. So all these years, all these I've never said.

1315
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: Me and Nigo have never spoke. I don't even know

1316
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: if you can speak English this, I've never seen him speak. Yeah,

1317
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, I can't even

1318
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: really speak to that. But I you know, I know

1319
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: that just with him, it's it's a respect thing and

1320
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: like just you know, respecting people's space and just it's

1321
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: just what they what they do over there anyway. So

1322
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's familiar, like we've met him. We've met

1323
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: him because of the music. Ye I heard the job

1324
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: mat him because of the jury, right, because because well

1325
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: he was a fan of the music and then found

1326
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: out that he was getting his jury done from from Jacob.

1327
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: So he would come and get everything he got in

1328
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: three colors with all the best diamonds every time. And

1329
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,879
Speaker 1: that's you know that, that's who really made that connection

1330
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: as far as Nigo goes. So let's get that record. Yeah,

1331
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: break down that record. Oh man, hear me clearly, um um,

1332
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: one of the first records that I did, and you know,

1333
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: the beat just had a real um. It just spoke

1334
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: to me, and it spoke to the hot sixteen in me,

1335
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, just recently, my biggest regret

1336
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: from this album is Nas not being on this record,

1337
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: because I um, I did that that the one verse

1338
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: that I had on it, I sent it to Nas

1339
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: ages ago, ages ago. As soon as I got I

1340
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: was like, no, I want NOAs on this because I

1341
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: felt like, um, I know, I just felt like you

1342
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: would have killed it right, So they got quiet. I

1343
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: didn't hear from him for a long time or whatever,

1344
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: but I gave it to him so long ago that

1345
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, you know, I gave him time.

1346
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: So I ran into him at Coake Man, the Korean steakhouse.

1347
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: But what is it? Quite? Cet? Yeah? Yeah, quit quite?

1348
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, no, don't. Let's all right, So

1349
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: so man, I ran into him. Man, He's like, Yo,

1350
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: what's up in New York? In New York? Man, yeah

1351
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: he um Man. He brought out thousands of dollars worth

1352
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: for wagu and and and sent it over to the table,

1353
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: came over. We just talked about. I was like, Man,

1354
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, I still want you on this record, I said, Man,

1355
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: I want you to be I said, I'm gonna put

1356
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: this record out because by this time Paris Fashion weekn happen.

1357
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: They got the snippet it, it got all the hits

1358
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I was like, but I want you

1359
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: to still be the last verse because I don't be

1360
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: the surprise on my album, like you know, because I'm

1361
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: putting the song on my album for sure what I

1362
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: was going for, know what I was doing, right, So

1363
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: so yeah, it just didn't happen. Man, it did not happen. Man,

1364
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: biggest regret, biggest regret of the album. Okay, moving on

1365
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: Open Air, Yeah, Open Air. I feel like open There

1366
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: was an answer to one of those records, and it

1367
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 1: was either an answer to Dreaming of the Past or

1368
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: was an answer to um to hear me clearly that

1369
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: was for real trying to get in his dark bag

1370
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: and um just you know, just trying to really just

1371
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: like man, you couldn't have all the hard records. You

1372
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: gotta show he could do it too. Okay, now the

1373
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: last one, the best one. You know what was crazy?

1374
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: Um When I first listened to it, I didn't look

1375
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: at the features on purpose. I wanted to just appreciate

1376
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the music about. What I didn't want to do was

1377
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: to listen to it in order that you made sometimes

1378
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: they shuffle, so that what I kept doing was after

1379
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: I was playing it, I went back to the original

1380
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: playlist to make sure that it was it was correct,

1381
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: and you and your brother sounds so good together. I

1382
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: couldn't know. I couldn't really see where you started. And

1383
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: he finished that while so I sat back and saying

1384
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 1: oh Ship. Like like I said, I didn't look at it.

1385
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he was doing that, and it

1386
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: just reminded me like, oh Ship. The young version of

1387
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: the clips I remember, you know, I remember the grinding

1388
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 1: video me me, me driving out there and me going

1389
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: to your hood and seeing like wow, but Jennie is

1390
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: really fucking the lood like like and it just but

1391
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: how hard I know you got a little brother card.

1392
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: I've been watching your interviews. But but still this album

1393
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: doesn't really represent what he represents. What I mean by

1394
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: that is, you know, he's a man of God. He's

1395
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: a man Like this wasn't like a Mace move, not

1396
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: taking a shot at Mace, but like this was like

1397
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: he really doving, Like follow him on Instagram. He has

1398
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: people that he preaches to. This is a real full

1399
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: fleshed thing. So how do you convince him? Like I said,

1400
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, you got a little brother car but other

1401
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: than that, because it's like I know you're gonna say, well, well,

1402
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: well you got this other content on the here, So

1403
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: how do you convince him to do that? Um? You know,

1404
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't really convincing. I think my I

1405
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: think my brother is really he's really self aware. Like

1406
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: he knows. My brother knows he's like the realist. He

1407
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: knows he's the realist. So he can put him in

1408
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: any uh any situation and he just gonna beat him,

1409
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: do him. He don't, you know, he doesn't necessarily think

1410
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: that because he's on a record that has whatever type

1411
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: of content that you know, if if you let him

1412
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: tell it, he getting his message across his points from Yeah,

1413
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, and it's competitive for him to he like, man,

1414
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still dope, Like I'm dope, and I can

1415
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: be dope saying this, and I can be better than

1416
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: you saying it, like you know, that's it. So you

1417
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: know that that that record, Um, I think that record.

1418
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: Let everybody know that the possibility of doing Eclipse record

1419
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: would make a lot of people happy. And and you know,

1420
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: just just I don't know, I think that, like I mean,

1421
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: it's it just be up to him. It's just up

1422
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: to him, like it ain't. It ain't even mean. So

1423
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: there's no more conversations from that record making it a reality.

1424
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: Funny funny thing is he hit me the other day like, oh,

1425
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: I see what they're saying. He hit me, hit me

1426
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: the other day. He's like, I see what they're saying.

1427
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 1: Ain't He was like, yo, I want you to change

1428
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: on the credits. Make sure it says malice not no malice. Wow, yeah,

1429
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: because I did. I did say no malice. It does. Yeah, No,

1430
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: it's malice. It says malice. Hold on, it says malice. Yeah,

1431
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: what is this? Did I see? I pray no malice?

1432
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: But what is this though? Like that's oh yeah, no, no,

1433
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: no on the actual look you no no, but I'm

1434
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: on another you got because come up schools cocaine. They

1435
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: list to cocaine. Google's love You. Yeah, we would be crazy.

1436
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Though you guys pulled off an album together. You can

1437
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: that duality can exist. It would be so crazy if

1438
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: you work together too long. This is what I remember.

1439
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: I remember do from my Hoodie passed away, so I

1440
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: don't want to um, but um he was. He told me.

1441
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, I want to get on right.

1442
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: He was like, so I want to. I want to

1443
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: diss you. And I was like, diss me? What sisters

1444
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: that man? He was like no, because you're the biggest artist.

1445
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 1: So if I diss you, I'll get attention. So I said,

1446
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: all right, cue, you know what we're doing. Let's let's

1447
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: let's do it on the same record. You dissed me.

1448
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be able to go. But I'm gonna sorry.

1449
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: I really raped. And it made me think about that

1450
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: because it was too opposite opinions. And I was like,

1451
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: but he never got to do it. He passed away.

1452
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: But I think of that when I think of you

1453
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,600
Speaker 1: and your brother, like you're not changing nothing, nothing, and

1454
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: they're not changing, and if the opposite of opinion, but

1455
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: it's it's where you guys, you know, correlating when you

1456
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: guys go down the same train. You know, even in

1457
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:05,919
Speaker 1: my solo, in my solo career, I still know the difference.

1458
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: I still know what I'm missing. Like that's the one

1459
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: thing I have not been able to really pinpoint for,

1460
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: like you know, to to to to sort of give

1461
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: to the fans. I know, like the fact of me

1462
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: being solo and not being able to really channel and

1463
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: tap in. I know what the fan is missing when

1464
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: they just hear me and don't hear him. You know

1465
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I really really do, And you know

1466
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: it's something. It's something I used to you know, I

1467
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: really used to try really hard to do. But still

1468
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: to this day, Um, I still don't. I don't hit

1469
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: the vein. I don't hit the vein properly when they

1470
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: come to that. He was wrapping before you, my brother

1471
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 1: five years older than me. He's been rapping being everything.

1472
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Do we have a church? No, we need to. We

1473
01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: need to. We need to hip hop, need to build

1474
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: Oh a church, yeah, malice church, he'd kill it. Yeah,

1475
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 1: we need to. We need because UM, Like there's certain

1476
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: people who I want to pray all me. Uh be

1477
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: like Rev run DMX. Yeah, bro, like you know what

1478
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, pray for me, like if I was a thing,

1479
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 1: because I believe in him. Like you know what I'm saying,

1480
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I believe I wanted to do a song with my

1481
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: brother that had been crazy, that had been crazy. You're

1482
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: a relationship with X correct? Okay, Yeah that was that

1483
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: was That was a big hold. So we're gonna move

1484
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: on right now. By the way, congratulations once again to

1485
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: for the album, gratulations for making a masterpiece. I'm gonna

1486
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: go ahead and say it's a classic. Thank you. Gonna

1487
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: wait for the team you know how everyone else. It's

1488
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 1: definitely a classic. And I'm very glad that you didn't

1489
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: let Kanye slack. You didn't let for Real slack because

1490
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: he's a both very rich people. Before we on the

1491
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: Creek time with slide. Yeah you do that. Okay, Yeah,

1492
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 1: this is the watch question. You probably don't even care.

1493
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 1: I probably don't even care. Who got the best watch

1494
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: game in the game, for real, for real, for real, Okay,

1495
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about everybody. I mean, man, it might be

1496
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: who we have the most expensive watches, a most expensive

1497
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: right right, Okay, but no, man, I mean he is

1498
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: he strong, he is corect Let me just tell you

1499
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: some he was weird Richard Milly's when I thought I

1500
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: was That's what I'm getting. I'm talking about. Let me

1501
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: talking about first world. We talk about first you gotta really,

1502
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: it ain't a lot that he ain't first that. Yeah,

1503
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: so it's it's I mean, war Burgers out here disrespectful.

1504
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: Who was that Mark Warburg Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's

1505
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: discussed out here foot and ship too. Yeah. But yeah,

1506
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: we all got a six million dollar joint from the

1507
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Moon with the with the with the Moon dusting or something.

1508
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: And I was going to you know, you know, like

1509
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: we came up together. You can't even say that with

1510
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: that watch, like I was gonna take that. Lord, listen,

1511
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: he got all the what I mean, and you know

1512
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: he only doing the yeah, the one he got a

1513
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: new Richard Millie with the Cuban link band from Richard Miller. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1514
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: excuse me, he calls him richild Yeah, Richard to bed rest,

1515
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 1: saying for real, top one jay Z most expensive. Yeah,

1516
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, listen, I ain't gonna lie Jabe Albert.

1517
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: I said his name correct his time here. Oh yeah,

1518
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: you know he's he's he's heavy too. I'm just saying

1519
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: that like when when I'm when I'm considering that, you

1520
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: know the game I'm talking about, like, man, when you

1521
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: I feel like Farrell put a lot of people on

1522
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: to things. You know what I'm saying. We're talking about

1523
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: the watches right now, but even that, I feel like

1524
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,600
Speaker 1: he put people on. Um, you know, it'll be a

1525
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: back and forth. I mean, bro, look how far hip

1526
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 1: hop is coming. Everybody's a billionaire every day, so it

1527
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: can be a new a new most expensive watch every day.

1528
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know, when you look at

1529
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: who is like, okay, people following culturally like what he did,

1530
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, I feel like, yeah, like

1531
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 1: he's he's like one of those, definitely one of the ones.

1532
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: Yeah him, Drake is outside too. I don't know, I'm

1533
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: not I don't follow you. I just wanted to see

1534
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: your face is spression. I'm sorry. He's pretty ill too.

1535
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Um yeah, but you said for in your book for

1536
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: number one watch guy. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna play a

1537
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 1: game right now. It's called quick Time with Slim. Sure,

1538
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: you're familiar with it, let's do it. We're gonna get

1539
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: you a post choice once or other if you um.

1540
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: If you pick both, you take a shot for it.

1541
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: If you're not drinking, we can have somebody come in

1542
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 1: and dream. We got Mr Lead come in and drink

1543
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: for you if you're not drinking. Because he's been on

1544
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: your album. I can tell you I did cocaine deals together.

1545
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm just doing out the Dominicans. Definitely get cocaine Virginia.

1546
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 1: It's definitely cocaine. I just know I remember did. But

1547
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: if you want you to do that, because I heard

1548
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: you drink, you drink deadly or you drink the black

1549
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: man we drinking? You got someone drinking? Man, you got

1550
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: someone drinking from you. No, I know I have nobody

1551
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: drinking from me because one more day after Dan, I'm trying,

1552
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying. I'm only make them one day.

1553
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 1: The one day. But you drink me. Okay, you personal sunny,

1554
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: come in. I don't like being too sober and ship.

1555
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: It's like you don't like to put on the headband

1556
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: for this. Okay, this one off top, can you get him?

1557
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm a cup this one off top, get give sunny. Um. Now,

1558
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you off top, I'm picking somebody every time,

1559
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: so it don't matter. So we're not so we're not

1560
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: drinking what you're saying. I'm thinking somebody every time kills.

1561
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 1: It was day they didn't they picked somebody ever, but

1562
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 1: it was crazy but it wasn't. And I'll tell you,

1563
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you.

1564
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you one. I don't know if I'm

1565
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. One time you called me he

1566
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: was disappointed and you no, no, for real, I'm gonna

1567
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: tell you. In fact, it was a six o'clock in

1568
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: the morning call. I remember where I was at, and

1569
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: you you taught me something. You talked, you didn't you

1570
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: didn't know this. I don't know if you know this,

1571
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 1: but you taught me something. This is when we first

1572
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: came up with I don't want right no no no

1573
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: no no no no no, no, no no no. I

1574
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: didn't want you to the quick time with slid. I

1575
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 1: had wished you didn't air you know when you had

1576
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: to go back and forth. So I remember you called it.

1577
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: You said, I'm in the middle of making this album.

1578
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 1: And we almost damn there in the middle of the

1579
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: wall with this guy. And he had to be literally

1580
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: correct because I believe the ass of quick time and

1581
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 1: slide was pushed or drake and for real said he

1582
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: drank for he drank for it. And it was like

1583
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: he's being politically correct. And it was the first time

1584
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 1: I ever like like you, even like not mad. But

1585
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 1: he was disappointed, like wait in a minute, hopeful this

1586
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker making my help. He couldn't pick me. I never

1587
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: see me most Yeah, is that because because I there's

1588
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: a cold of the streets right where you're my man.

1589
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you right or wrong, But I also tell

1590
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: you when you're wrong. Oh yeah, I do that. Why

1591
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 1: did you feel like not betrayed? I don't want that.

1592
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 1: That's a wrong answer. Why didn't you think for all answered?

1593
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: He didn't answer that question correct because there is no

1594
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: wrong when they comes to me and p R, it's

1595
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: just you're right. I don't care, and that's just what

1596
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: it is like, That's just what it is like, even

1597
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: when you're wrong. He could be the wrongest person in

1598
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 1: this room right now. He's right there and you're wrong.

1599
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: But that's how I go. Yeah, like that's just what

1600
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: it is. But I will say this though, like you,

1601
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 1: he's sitting in front of you, you know what I'm saying,

1602
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 1: and like and he got he you know, he's sitting

1603
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: in front of you, and you're the same, you know

1604
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I'm thinking, I expect for real

1605
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: to be politically correct. Until you gave me that point

1606
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: of view. Was like, yo, I'm in the middle of

1607
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: making the album. Now he's producing it. I don't need

1608
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 1: that type of I wanted him to say, you know me, like,

1609
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I didn't look at

1610
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: I didn't look at every single you know, you know

1611
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: on the chess board with the pond moves a little

1612
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: bit and no one really just picks it up that

1613
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: that that little move at the pond makes matters to

1614
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: later on. Every move matters, yes, speaking every move, that's

1615
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 1: what people do know. Every move matters, Every move matters. Yeah,

1616
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: every move matters, Every move matters. Yes, right, okay, yeah,

1617
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: we're getting into quick time slie. And by the way,

1618
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 1: so you know your friend Mr Lee right this to

1619
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: to to crash people up, so he definitely probably did

1620
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: this for you. Alright, cool, you ready that this is

1621
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: either artist whichever way you want, the puff man should child.

1622
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: That's right, he's making an album and ship. Yeah yeah,

1623
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 1: he didn't even let me hear it because he said

1624
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: to blow it up. Um um, Kanye or for real,

1625
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: for real, I'm stuck, okay, Jada Kiss or fabulous Jada

1626
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: Swiss Beasts or Timberland Swiss. I'm not gonna ask why.

1627
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,839
Speaker 1: Oh I mean you know, I'm just you know, Swiss

1628
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 1: made money cash holes. I'm done money cash, hold money,

1629
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: cash premre p rock shit your shot? No, um, Primo

1630
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: made dwait Premo. Okay, ain't you taking a shot to

1631
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: change a big sean to change that? The best verse

1632
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 1: on Mercy? Okay, that's how's verds go? How's good pirds go?

1633
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: How's no already? Remember? Come on, come on to change

1634
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 1: the best verse on Mercy? Remember a little bit? All right?

1635
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: K arrests or rock him fuck man? Shot. No, I'm

1636
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: not taking a shot. I'm a pick I'm a peak one.

1637
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: But but you have to take a shot out of

1638
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 1: that taking a shot. Who do you think both both?

1639
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:34,639
Speaker 1: I would man, that's that's tough. Um. Both were game

1640
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: changers at that time. Yeah, so both I don't know, man,

1641
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: because I still see I like, right this very second, no, no,

1642
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 1: because right this very second, I feel like I feel

1643
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 1: like CA arrests still could sit in front of me

1644
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: and rhyme is old me and everybody at this table

1645
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, but

1646
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 1: rock Him, rock Him definitely had more of an impact

1647
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 1: on me, just culturally, Like I feel like, you know,

1648
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 1: I didn't ever noticed rock Him. Don't even curse, right,

1649
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: that's crazy, just crazy. I don't I muna say both

1650
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: forget it, okay, okay, but I ain't scared to say

1651
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 1: either one okay, yeah, O d B or bisin Markey,

1652
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: bisin Mokey pretty pretty much they was in the same

1653
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: category too, right, Like, if it wasn't like a B,

1654
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be an OLDB. Like comedy I love yeah, Yeah,

1655
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 1: I definitely love it on Have you been approached to

1656
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: do versus O? No? I don't think so, right, you

1657
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 1: know some of you interested in not really now, not

1658
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 1: right now. I'm still like I'm still competing right now

1659
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: in the right right now, and I'm still like trying

1660
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 1: to like I don't even want to go. I'm working

1661
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: on the next album now, like right this second, at

1662
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 1: the third and fourth for whatever days I'm supposed to

1663
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: be in the studio. I actually canceled studio today. So nah,

1664
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to We're gonna see, we're gonna see

1665
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: how far this really really go. And I ain't trying

1666
01:45:54,160 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: to reminisce about nothing. That's why. Okay, so you ain't. Yeah,

1667
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 1: you're saying basically you're not you're not interested in versus

1668
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: right now. No, No, even if the bag is hefty,

1669
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean the bag stupid who but but like, no,

1670
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 1: versus is something I like. It's something I like and

1671
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: something I like to watching, something that I'm into. So

1672
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: bag wise, I wasn't even thinking. I'm like, I'm thinking,

1673
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: you just asked me on something like you know, you

1674
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: know it kind of it's kind of like, um, I

1675
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 1: don't know, you know obviously you know. But DJ Cassidy

1676
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: he has this thing called Past Past the Mike what

1677
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I lovely she's been asking you to ask me to

1678
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 1: do it, but but he names it nineties rappers, and

1679
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't want to be there, bro, I'm

1680
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: a two hip hop media motherfucking mogul. I don't want

1681
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: to be label the fucking nineties rapper. I mean, no,

1682
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 1: it's just it. You ain't doing that. You just yeah,

1683
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't want to remember. I don't

1684
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: remember that. Basically what what me and you were saying

1685
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the same dialect in a different way and a different vernacular.

1686
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 1: But because you don't like, you don't want, you still

1687
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 1: perform grinding? I do. I will still perform grinding. I

1688
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: don't perform much else though. Okay, you know I um,

1689
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 1: I still performed grinding, right because I went to a

1690
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: camera show and he didn't perform horsting carriage. I was mad.

1691
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: I was upset. I wanted horse in carriage and three

1692
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: five seven, Oh yeah, yeah you would, Yeah you would,

1693
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 1: I would. I wanted. I wanted that. I never told

1694
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: him that probably um okay, boom you ready. Boys in

1695
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: the hood of mister society, Um, boys in the hood? Okay,

1696
01:47:55,600 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 1: boys in the hood. That's um though, that's right. As

1697
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: a society is Lorenz Tate and boys first asat Rocky

1698
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: or Travis Scott asad Rocky that very fast, sir, I

1699
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: mean black them both, but Rocky because a lot of

1700
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: people say that Rocky is like the originator. Oh I

1701
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 1: don't even compare to to I just you know, Rocky's

1702
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 1: taste level is just a one like super high. I

1703
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: think Travis makes dope records. I think there's something, um

1704
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: it's really classic about Rocky that I yes, we Rocky too. Yeah, hey,

1705
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: you got the next one? No, I don't have pulled

1706
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:50,680
Speaker 1: up when you up? Did you tell me it's I

1707
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: got to type in my code because because people be

1708
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: telling me my cod be switching by every week, they

1709
01:48:55,080 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 1: like your cold? This is once before? How the fun

1710
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 1: do they see this ship on the end of that?

1711
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know, stop doing that. Hey, I've learned,

1712
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 1: uh saw how the Prince or Rome fest mm hmm.

1713
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 1: They've both been a part of history, and let'na say both. Okay,

1714
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: we respect that. We gotta take the shot. Buddy take

1715
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 1: the shot. I'm follow sleep him, Brophtory. They both they've

1716
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 1: both been done some very very incredible things and been

1717
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 1: a part of a lot of like legacy ship Like

1718
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 1: I can't even front on them either one. Okay, ready, yep,

1719
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 1: Big or Big Part Big Pun? The reason why are

1720
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: you Big Pun? Big Pun made twins? It's crazy? Ain't

1721
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 1: nobody doing in the middle A little first to the

1722
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: specific track that he's thinking in his mind at that moment.

1723
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: I love the fan version of I can just see.

1724
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 1: It's just like a totally different thing to you. Okay,

1725
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: Pablo escotball or l Chopol. Mr Lee wants to know.

1726
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 1: Definitely Mr. Least he would put Mr leave. But Pablo Escobar,

1727
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 1: Pablo Esco, he was first. Nah, it's not because he

1728
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: was first, but um does zoo? I mean Chopper might

1729
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 1: have gone further, you know, you know what because I

1730
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: get you know what it is. I get um, I get.

1731
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 1: I get family vibes out of Pablo, like I got

1732
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 1: to see you know, when you hear about it, when

1733
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: you when they talk about them, you see like oh man,

1734
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: he loved his kids and things like that. You know

1735
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You don't. You don't. I don't know

1736
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:17,759
Speaker 1: that type of ventel with Chap. Yeah, I don't know tasketball, horses,

1737
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: cocaine and everything like information, Which is what I'm saying

1738
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: is it's a real thing. Like I feel like people

1739
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: to hear about the you know, then they'll think, you know,

1740
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,759
Speaker 1: just like some type of tyrant. But it was dope

1741
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 1: to to get some of that insight that like he was,

1742
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,439
Speaker 1: he was kind of like a family man, and and

1743
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: that and that, uh, that picture the icon it's an

1744
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: iconic picture him and his child in front of the

1745
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: White House tourists. Bro, how can you know who doesn't

1746
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: have that? I got that picture with my pops too.

1747
01:51:54,720 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: The same exact one was like, Okay, Missy or eve Missy, Missy?

1748
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: What's the only? Mr Mean? Stop Missy over everybody? How

1749
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: about that? You think Missy could be a bust of

1750
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: rhymes and Missy Missy untouchable, bust the rhymes though verse,

1751
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going with Missy. I'm Missy from Virginia.

1752
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Is your only? Mr? Mean? I'm going with Missy. I'm

1753
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 1: the mighty, influencing, incredible, go god level Missy. She's gonna

1754
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: come up with rain drop. Listen, let's play video for video.

1755
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Up? What I got back? Listen?

1756
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm standing on it. I'm gonna stay I'm

1757
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:59,759
Speaker 1: gonna staying on Missy wind losing drawers whatever, but incredible

1758
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 1: world since they and they gotta do by visual too,

1759
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: because they have you can't just do you know? Yeah, Yeah,

1760
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Mrs motherfucker yeah, we

1761
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: need you. They got Diddy or Stephen Victor, but they

1762
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: don't know you like I know you. So I'm taking

1763
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: Diddy out of there, and I'm putting Bob Walker or

1764
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: Stephen Victor. Man. Man, No, I ain't drinking. I'm not, man,

1765
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, um Man, you know I love

1766
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,679
Speaker 1: them both. We're going on vacation, all of us together,

1767
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 1: just recently. I mean just you know, coming up soon.

1768
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 1: But man, Stephen Victor, man, dog, we're going. We're going.

1769
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: We'll lose a draw. We're gonna listen down together the

1770
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: worst times to the best times. That's what it is, y'all.

1771
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: Billboard Magazine and gloves on for sure. And I mean

1772
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: you know and and and and Rob. Rob didn't manage

1773
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 1: me at one time, but you know, uh Pharrell at

1774
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 1: Farrell and Chad that was there. That was there, Stephen Victor,

1775
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Rob and he managed all of us, you know what

1776
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it was and he was the one

1777
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: to them. Stephen is the one to me. So I'm

1778
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: going Stephen, okay, but you know, you know right, let's go, yeah,

1779
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: drink to that drink as Stephen Victor, that's was here,

1780
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: he was here with Sean Yep, Yeah, definitely. I want

1781
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 1: to go to believes for no reason, I swear to God,

1782
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, yeah, I was gonna put a flight to beliefs.

1783
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't know this is a sub but for no reason.

1784
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: But I looked at my fucking Instagram and it's like

1785
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: beliefs pot. I was like, I'm gonna just go. I'm

1786
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna figure out the sign is there later, like you

1787
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was just gonn. I don't know.

1788
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 1: I just felt like just going, like I said, And

1789
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: then my friend hit me season Antigua. I was like,

1790
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: you know what, one of these things, I'm gonna go

1791
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: for one day and just just go, just like fly

1792
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,240
Speaker 1: in six am and then fly back out. Remember, do

1793
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 1: some dumb ship like that. I'll tell you, Uh, Jake

1794
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Cole or Kendrick Um j Cole or Kendrick. I'm going

1795
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: with Kendrake. I've been going with Kendrake. Wow, okay, nineties

1796
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 1: verse two thousand's nineties verse two thousands. Just give me

1797
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 1: two thousands, take a two thousands, Just tell him no, no, no,

1798
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: what it is two thousand. Yeah, you're saying all the

1799
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: nineties versus a Musically John, like the nineties you got

1800
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: you got criss Cross jump right now. We oh, we

1801
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: got WoT we got uh, we got great kin, we

1802
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: got mob d fuck. Oh yeah, you know it's nineties.

1803
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 1: But clips. We have clips in the two thousands. We

1804
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 1: got clips in two thousands, and we got trapper Divegez

1805
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 1: in the two thousand. You know, that's the fucking grail

1806
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: some of the great But you got reasonable doubt nineties six,

1807
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm done. It's ninety about eighties verse nineties based on

1808
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 1: what you've been saying to mom, d ruined my life? Prodigy?

1809
01:56:55,840 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 1: Did get Richard died trying? Or Port of Miami? Get

1810
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Richard died trying? Or Port of Miami both the first

1811
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: both Rick Cross and get rich trying. Yeah, Biggie or

1812
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: jay Z, take a shot something the fucking coming Nah,

1813
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: Like you can't answer it, man, you can't answer it.

1814
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 1: Take a shot. Okay, No, But I don't like that.

1815
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 1: I really do. I really do. You might think I'm

1816
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 1: a whole or something person. I actually it's just it's

1817
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: just like it's just like the bar said on your

1818
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: he said, if Big was alive in this position, if

1819
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: would have survived, would have got the right, col okay,

1820
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 1: this one, I don't know where you can go with this?

1821
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Was that because I don't know if we ever ever.

1822
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 1: I know you met one of them, I don't know

1823
01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 1: if you met the other one. Tupaca d MX, Tupaca,

1824
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: DM Max. I'm gonna go with d M Max bro right, Um,

1825
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: you know I ain't. I didn't see Poc. Yeah, I

1826
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 1: didn't get the I didn't you know what I'm saying.

1827
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see him. I mean his of course music impactful,

1828
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But I went to the

1829
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: concert where they cried like this. Yeah. I went to

1830
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: Rough Riday and uh cash money, cash money and Rough Riday.

1831
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, And um, you know, you know that's

1832
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 1: something that this funked up with me because of music.

1833
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember dating ship good like nothing,

1834
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 1: I remember nothing. I can't. I can't my time, my

1835
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 1: time friends that it's got vitamins. But um, but also

1836
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 1: also I muna say that, um, you know, exchanged music

1837
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 1: and what was music like crazily to me? Like like

1838
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I love big everything going on,

1839
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 1: bad boy boom boom and then he come with the

1840
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 1: dog calling no shirt blacking, you know, what I'm saying,

1841
01:59:56,840 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 1: it was like then he came and he rob Um,

1842
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: he did two songs, did two albums, and nine months

1843
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: um he started Hell's Hellt's and then Flesh in My Flesh.

1844
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm slipping right yeah yeah, like bro yeah just

1845
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 1: for me just in the impact was something visible and

1846
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 1: had a record a ciscar at the same time. No,

1847
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 1: and and what's that the Alia joint? Yeah, like it's

1848
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:38,400
Speaker 1: too much no hype man? Yeah yeah, performer. Now this

1849
02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: next one, I don't know where you're gonna go because

1850
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 1: I think this is definitely a doublet for you, major

1851
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 1: or independent because when you owning your masters right now,

1852
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 1: you're a major independent right No, yeah, but but um,

1853
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with I don't have a

1854
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: problem with the label a label as a partner. I

1855
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,480
Speaker 1: don't get that check. Yeah, like I'm not. I'm not.

1856
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: And especially if you don't got the arms too to

1857
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 1: facilitate everything you need to be as an independent, you know.

1858
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 1: And I'm speaking. I'm speaking on this because I'm from

1859
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 1: a place where independence never happened, you know what I'm saying.

1860
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm from Virginia. We never had the infrastructure to

1861
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 1: make some independent common Wealth. Right, but we never just

1862
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 1: had the infrastructure to like but you've never experienced independent

1863
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 1: stuff really Yeah? Well well no, I mean you know

1864
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I look, Tony Draper was my manager.

1865
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, that's independent. But some of the some

1866
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 1: of the perks of amajors, like you said, you were

1867
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: out there, got the hard work out a jay Z

1868
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 1: feature probably probably wouldn't be able to get the video,

1869
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 1: but you got this and the perks will being an

1870
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:04,000
Speaker 1: amazing people have it played or fifty seven markets per

1871
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: hour just you gotta be an estimated at least fifty

1872
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 1: seven million people have heard neck and Rest because of

1873
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:13,600
Speaker 1: the purse of a major. Yeah, it's given take Remember

1874
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 1: it's o versus versus the machine, and it's both. There's

1875
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: no wronger, right, yeah, there's no there's no wronger. Right.

1876
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this. Um, I don't know, man, Yeah,

1877
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, so we're

1878
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: taking a shot. I don't take a shot, Okay, now

1879
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 1: this is I'm not mad at either one though. To

1880
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:40,880
Speaker 1: be honest with you, if you if you got the

1881
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: arms to be independent, then it's go. You should. But

1882
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 1: if you don't. It's a successful on a major for

1883
02:02:49,440 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 1: for sure. For sure, kick cut a comment, kick cutting

1884
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: Conway or Bitty the Butcher. Shit, m taking a shot?

1885
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 1: All right? Cool, I'm not taking them shots. Damn. I'm

1886
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna go with Conway. I'm gonna go with Conway. Right.

1887
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep putting these two together,

1888
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 1: but they did it with their albums, but now we're

1889
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,880
Speaker 1: gonna do it for them individually. Rick Ross a fat

1890
02:03:51,960 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: Joe Um Rick Ross yeh, Teddy Riley, go ahead, baby face,

1891
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:13,600
Speaker 1: Teddy Riley? Care what happened? A funk? What happened? It's

1892
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 1: t go ahead. He's definitely gonna his last name don

1893
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: to Oliver, don Toliver Oliver or little Boosie Burke. God

1894
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 1: nah nah um yeah, I'm gonna take a shot. Okay,

1895
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 1: now we're gonna take a shot, all right. Uh. New

1896
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: Jack City, original Gangster New Jack City. A lot of

1897
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:03,520
Speaker 1: people have been saying New Jack City, okay, d C

1898
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:07,920
Speaker 1: or l A d C or l A d C

1899
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 1: d C or Miami d C d C or Denver

1900
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:28,800
Speaker 1: d C. No, No, no, listen, you know you know

1901
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: actually where I'm from. I'm three hours away from these

1902
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: well now I got a house up there now, and like,

1903
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:41,200
Speaker 1: but I just, man, I'm just very mid Atlantic, East

1904
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 1: Coast level. That's where I'm the most comfortable with everything. Like,

1905
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't I haven't taken a flight since

1906
02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 1: I was living in Maryland in that area. I haven't

1907
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 1: taken a flight to New York. I never took a flight.

1908
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 1: And I would all ways get on the train and

1909
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: just uh you know, take the train from DC to

1910
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: New York just to like see the different like just

1911
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 1: the different areas I was going through, and and and

1912
02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And it's like I really

1913
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:18,680
Speaker 1: got to identify who I'm talking to, that East Coast

1914
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 1: level of sophistication. You know what I'm saying that I

1915
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: know exactly where my raps is going at. Anybody else

1916
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:28,760
Speaker 1: is cool, but who gravitates to it? But I know

1917
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:37,080
Speaker 1: exactly that d C, Baltimore, uh, Philly, Maryland, you know it? Atlantic? Yeah? Yeah,

1918
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean state too, right, No

1919
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: state is when you get there US. It's not DMV,

1920
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: no DMV. But but d m V. D m V

1921
02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: has never uh d m V has never included uh

1922
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 1: where I'm from. DNA Beach seven five seven area code

1923
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 1: that Hampton and never we were our own things. We are,

1924
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,080
Speaker 1: We've been our own thing. Richmond be the own thing.

1925
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:09,760
Speaker 1: And then d m V was DC Maryland and Northern Virginia. Okay,

1926
02:07:10,320 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 1: so um, let's be clear. Virginia is the East Coast. Yes,

1927
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean it was in the South. This is a

1928
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: big debate. Well, no, no, it is. Technically it is.

1929
02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: It was the capital of the Confederacy. No for but no,

1930
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what he meant that technically the South.

1931
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:34,480
Speaker 1: But in the music sense, in a music sense, the

1932
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 1: dirty South never adopted Virginia, and d C no, no,

1933
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 1: no no adopted Virginia. Well, New York, the New York

1934
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:50,080
Speaker 1: adopted Virginia during the late eighties. You don't think Teddy

1935
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:53,600
Speaker 1: really turned into Virginia. I feel like he into that's

1936
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: what we're saying. I don't think he zoom zoom zoom

1937
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 1: in the room. Poom yeah jove into pop phone. I

1938
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 1: do remember that video, don't saying to get I got

1939
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:14,400
Speaker 1: almost guaranteed. I jerked video. That's two much of Amazon.

1940
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:23,080
Speaker 1: You needn't drink that Wow Soper nor out no one Sofa.

1941
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: That's all the year before. What do you mean that's

1942
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 1: a clessant record. That's a clus That's what mean. It's

1943
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: like Dwick almost in a sense, you know, like a

1944
02:08:33,960 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 1: summer record that's never forever, YoY came before do it. No,

1945
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a classic summer record. Yes, it

1946
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: made me want to like I always wanted to have

1947
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:47,600
Speaker 1: a video like that. I never got one girl. He

1948
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:56,080
Speaker 1: got chill him full of dudes, I drink off. He's

1949
02:08:56,240 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 1: crazy and he's sober. The motherfucker. I don't want you.

1950
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 1: That was podcast radio um podcast almatic or ready to

1951
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:34,440
Speaker 1: Die Illmatic or ready to die Almatic, styles Pe or

1952
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:42,480
Speaker 1: cameraon styles P camera styles Pe. Oh you say you

1953
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 1: was answering styles Pe might be in my top five

1954
02:09:51,080 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: to three dogs just of like consistency, hard lyricism. Um

1955
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 1: even gets a little conscious, Yeah, but scary conscious, you know,

1956
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, scolding conscious, Like he's in my top

1957
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 1: he's like he's been and been there for a long

1958
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:25,320
Speaker 1: long time. Ray Kwan or ghost face Ray Kwan of

1959
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 1: course his hats because he is the Purple tape. Purple

1960
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:32,920
Speaker 1: tape change niggers Like, yeah, now let me tell you something.

1961
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 1: If the Purple Tape would have said ghost face features

1962
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: because yeah, but I said break feature and ghost face,

1963
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:48,680
Speaker 1: So I gotta go with Cypress Hills or Onyx Cypress

1964
02:10:48,720 --> 02:11:01,480
Speaker 1: Hill used to Cypress Hills Cyper's Hill Still n WA

1965
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 1: or Wu Tank Plan Um moutane Clan deep or MP

1966
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:18,680
Speaker 1: mob mob Deep over everybody, Mob Deep over clips Mob

1967
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 1: Deep mob Deep. Loyalty or respect loyalty? Why you don't

1968
02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 1: guta respect me? You don't got too? It's cool, I don't.

1969
02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:37,480
Speaker 1: I respect you and I respect me. But if you're loyal,

1970
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:39,800
Speaker 1: that means you're that close to me. That means we're

1971
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 1: in a close you know, in close dealings. And I

1972
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 1: and I put that over everything like we should be

1973
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 1: everybody should be. Um, loyalty should be on top of

1974
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:54,760
Speaker 1: everybody's list. Who you who you deal with, who you

1975
02:11:54,880 --> 02:12:06,720
Speaker 1: rock with? Yeah, figure we always say, um, you always

1976
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:10,360
Speaker 1: say that's probably the only trick question on here because

1977
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 1: UM and I get how people depreciate the two. UM,

1978
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,760
Speaker 1: but I feel like, really, loyalty and respect, like it's

1979
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 1: just it's just like a hand and hand type of thing.

1980
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:24,000
Speaker 1: But not in this generation now. But from where we

1981
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: come from. When I say where I come from, I

1982
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:28,800
Speaker 1: don't mean my hood. I mean the generation generation, you

1983
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um damn that motherfucker Live Residents

1984
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,800
Speaker 1: smacking a ship out of me. Right now. We got

1985
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:38,560
Speaker 1: some bigger boys. God damn it, that's it. That's it

1986
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:43,560
Speaker 1: is hitting me crazy right in the building. You get

1987
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 1: paid by the movie. But so moving forward and this

1988
02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:51,280
Speaker 1: generation now, I can see how they don't coexist. But um,

1989
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:54,320
Speaker 1: back then, if you had loyalty, you have respect. Back then,

1990
02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:58,000
Speaker 1: if you have respect, you had loyalty. I mean, I

1991
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:00,360
Speaker 1: think I'm looking at it just in this sense of

1992
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 1: you know how I how I view the two words,

1993
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 1: like I don't care if somebody respects me. You know

1994
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:11,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I don't, you don't. You don't gotta

1995
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:13,960
Speaker 1: respect me. You got to know me and I respect me.

1996
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:19,280
Speaker 1: It's whatever. Loyalty is something that is. You know, you

1997
02:13:19,400 --> 02:13:22,840
Speaker 1: get that opportunity to even experience loyalty by being close

1998
02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:25,960
Speaker 1: to somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like you you,

1999
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:29,640
Speaker 1: if you're not close somebody, you don't even expect loyalty.

2000
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 1: So you can only look at that word in one

2001
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, in in a in a sense of being,

2002
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:39,400
Speaker 1: But would in loyalty automatically bring respect with itself, because

2003
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:43,720
Speaker 1: the minute someone disengages from being loyal, they're disrespecting you

2004
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:47,640
Speaker 1: at the same time. That's why. That's that's why I

2005
02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:52,800
Speaker 1: was like, I guess, I mean you mean true, you know,

2006
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,000
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, I think you can separate

2007
02:13:56,160 --> 02:14:00,560
Speaker 1: both of them because again I can see this man

2008
02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:03,320
Speaker 1: right here. I don't gotta respect that man or nothing.

2009
02:14:03,480 --> 02:14:05,720
Speaker 1: You don't gotta respect me, you know what I'm saying.

2010
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,040
Speaker 1: Loyalty ain't even an option. We don't even know each other,

2011
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:10,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when you start talking

2012
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 1: about loyalty, you're really talking about you're already putting a

2013
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:18,120
Speaker 1: relationship there. And when you when you mentioned loyalty, not

2014
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:21,760
Speaker 1: necessarily with respect, because the enemy could respect you and

2015
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,600
Speaker 1: that'd be loyal to you. That's why I think is

2016
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:27,400
Speaker 1: where it disengages, Like like someone from a distance in

2017
02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:29,200
Speaker 1: the streets could be like, I'm gonna respect them and

2018
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move accordingly to how I respect that they

2019
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 1: might move, but I'm not loyal to that person. Yeah,

2020
02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:40,400
Speaker 1: it's it's it's separate though. Man, life is crazy. Man

2021
02:14:40,520 --> 02:14:43,640
Speaker 1: life is crazy. Life is crazy. No, look at this, Yeah,

2022
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 1: that's about to say, man like not only did you

2023
02:14:45,760 --> 02:14:49,280
Speaker 1: think you still be here, like with the level of

2024
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:51,640
Speaker 1: love that you receive, you know what I'm saying, Like

2025
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,720
Speaker 1: you have like like I go back to the Coil

2026
02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 1: Ray interview because it was just, um, is a fire

2027
02:14:59,200 --> 02:15:03,680
Speaker 1: cracker that that's that's the home. But what it was

2028
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:07,800
Speaker 1: was to see Charlemagne like and have his like you know,

2029
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:11,320
Speaker 1: he's the top of his game. He's sitting there and

2030
02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 1: it's like there's people like that that won't let what

2031
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:17,720
Speaker 1: you do die at all. Yeah, no, for sure, And

2032
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 1: you know it's it's Um, I think that it's good

2033
02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:32,760
Speaker 1: to have champions like like Charlotte Maagne out there and yeah,

2034
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:39,640
Speaker 1: of course Vangela everybody. UM, but you know, you gotta

2035
02:15:39,840 --> 02:15:42,520
Speaker 1: you gotta make it. You gotta make it easy for

2036
02:15:42,640 --> 02:15:45,440
Speaker 1: them to champion you two. You gotta make that ship.

2037
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be culturally relevant. You gotta be active and

2038
02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:53,880
Speaker 1: actively competing and you know, you know, being able to

2039
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 1: put up your album one for one with any of them.

2040
02:15:56,360 --> 02:15:58,480
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's something that I need to

2041
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 1: do more. Like I you know, I've been on some

2042
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:06,320
Speaker 1: I've been on some you know, drop every two three

2043
02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:08,840
Speaker 1: years type of ship. This was even longer due to

2044
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:12,200
Speaker 1: the pandemic or whatever. But um, I think I think

2045
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:15,640
Speaker 1: just being more respectful to my fan And if I'm

2046
02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 1: really trying to get my language out there and and

2047
02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 1: show that I'm being competitive, I'm gonna have to drop

2048
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 1: more frequently too. What's ther president of death? Dam? How

2049
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:31,000
Speaker 1: has it been working with Tungi Dope? Like you know

2050
02:16:31,480 --> 02:16:35,280
Speaker 1: young energy? Um, he knows what you're talking about. And

2051
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:37,720
Speaker 1: and Tungji used to wrap. He's gonna kill me for this.

2052
02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, but but I sucked him up.

2053
02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:44,960
Speaker 1: I told him right, I told him, I know you

2054
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:46,959
Speaker 1: used to wrap two So because I brought him into

2055
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:48,680
Speaker 1: listen to my album first, and I was like, before

2056
02:16:48,879 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 1: we even go here, I know you're rappers, so that's

2057
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:58,879
Speaker 1: why you're here. Tell me he um African? Um, what's

2058
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 1: the ship? Um? No, no, no, bumba, what's that? What

2059
02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:13,880
Speaker 1: the are you talking? Uh? Afro beats? Yeah, but no

2060
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:26,520
Speaker 1: he wraps like a rapper, like African like raps. Yeah

2061
02:17:26,800 --> 02:17:30,800
Speaker 1: he sure, And um that was that was they had

2062
02:17:30,800 --> 02:17:33,520
Speaker 1: a lot to do with. Um. I was letting I

2063
02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 1: was letting him hear the album. But that was part

2064
02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 1: of the rollout specifically. That's why I asked you how

2065
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:42,320
Speaker 1: long you got to live with the record because we

2066
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:46,560
Speaker 1: wanted I feel like, man, people don't even rate in

2067
02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:49,800
Speaker 1: critique records no more so we had we had the

2068
02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 1: record sent out to everybody earlier and we experienced the leak.

2069
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 1: Actually in the virgion I had didn't have drug Dealers

2070
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:57,600
Speaker 1: anonymous on it. The one that I bought don't have

2071
02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 1: drunk anonymous on It's not on it. Yeah, yeah I didn't.

2072
02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:02,960
Speaker 1: But the one when you google it, it is on

2073
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:11,200
Speaker 1: that bro. Stop No, you know it's crazy. No, no,

2074
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:15,360
Speaker 1: go to title man on the playlist that you sent us.

2075
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:23,840
Speaker 1: They got it, yes, yeah, yes, they got it actually

2076
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:26,920
Speaker 1: under the album yeah, come on, no or push the

2077
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:30,400
Speaker 1: Tea Blue dist track towards Arby's. You started Arby's Ship

2078
02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:34,800
Speaker 1: because because McDonald's jerk you back in the day. Man,

2079
02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:40,200
Speaker 1: that's really really good. I'm really proud of that. Armies. Yeah,

2080
02:18:40,320 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the campaign. Right go, Steve Stout got

2081
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:49,480
Speaker 1: your jerked back. They didn't get a jerk man, but

2082
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:52,879
Speaker 1: not shouting Stout though, because he you know he um.

2083
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:56,080
Speaker 1: He brought me and my brother in on the I'm

2084
02:18:56,160 --> 02:19:01,680
Speaker 1: loving the campaign. Yeah. We talked about two and from

2085
02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:04,480
Speaker 1: those raps came the catchphrase I'm loving it and you

2086
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,520
Speaker 1: you did not know about residuals back there? Hell don't

2087
02:19:07,520 --> 02:19:10,160
Speaker 1: know that ship with the check was looking crazy that

2088
02:19:10,400 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 1: bro I wasn't thinking about it, and I'm thinking ship,

2089
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, a little two months joint about

2090
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 1: the same time it's over. That should lasted twenty years,

2091
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:25,560
Speaker 1: might still be forever? Know for sure? Are we stepped

2092
02:19:25,600 --> 02:19:28,119
Speaker 1: you and said let's get a cracking h We'll see

2093
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:30,520
Speaker 1: ary they said, let's go to the wall, let's get

2094
02:19:31,240 --> 02:19:38,360
Speaker 1: double like that. If any of that happened, I'm telling

2095
02:19:38,400 --> 02:19:42,160
Speaker 1: you what happened before. What really happened was I've been

2096
02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:44,240
Speaker 1: speaking and I've been telling people that that was like

2097
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:48,000
Speaker 1: my um my biggest regret. You know, people ask you, like, da,

2098
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:51,920
Speaker 1: what's your biggest regret musically? So that's um. So I

2099
02:19:52,280 --> 02:19:54,840
Speaker 1: told him about the McDonald's thing and I and then

2100
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:58,280
Speaker 1: I proceeded to tell them that. But after that, though,

2101
02:19:58,320 --> 02:20:00,360
Speaker 1: I see, I've been in business with Arby's for minute

2102
02:20:00,360 --> 02:20:03,720
Speaker 1: because me and scrill X did a record together called

2103
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:07,520
Speaker 1: Burial and that we got to meet at the end

2104
02:20:07,560 --> 02:20:11,200
Speaker 1: of the Arby's commercial with the last hard That's that

2105
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:17,080
Speaker 1: our own record. So yeah, so out here doing right

2106
02:20:17,959 --> 02:20:21,120
Speaker 1: so so and that's why because you were speaking about earlier.

2107
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:22,320
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I was doing his E d

2108
02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:24,600
Speaker 1: M stuff, and I was like, bro, that was the

2109
02:20:24,720 --> 02:20:29,320
Speaker 1: path that I got. No, he was on point, but

2110
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:34,000
Speaker 1: he was on point. He was on point with that.

2111
02:20:34,120 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 1: He jump off the E d M. The E d

2112
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:41,680
Speaker 1: M is very commercial friendly and once um my manager

2113
02:20:42,560 --> 02:20:46,600
Speaker 1: really Stephen was really like pushing that. No, just pushing,

2114
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:48,520
Speaker 1: just doing a lot of E d M stuff, like yo,

2115
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:50,880
Speaker 1: just do it like it's it's cool whatever, it's it's

2116
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:54,640
Speaker 1: commercial leaning. And so to get me to do it,

2117
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:58,600
Speaker 1: he would always ask for a super crazy amount of

2118
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:03,560
Speaker 1: the song like like yo, give me whatever publishing and

2119
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:06,360
Speaker 1: I ended up doing the Screll X one and it

2120
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:12,640
Speaker 1: ended up getting picked up. So yeah, so I didn't

2121
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:17,680
Speaker 1: say nothing. He just owns that piece of that record.

2122
02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:21,920
Speaker 1: Who got the Meets is on yes, exactly. So um,

2123
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 1: with that, with that being the case, um, they reached

2124
02:21:26,200 --> 02:21:27,720
Speaker 1: out to me. It was like, man, we we heard

2125
02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:32,160
Speaker 1: about what you said during the you know, doing me harmy.

2126
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah They're like yeah, we've been I'm always gies, but

2127
02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:46,240
Speaker 1: you know it was like yeo, we heard about that

2128
02:21:46,600 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 1: but we got this fish sandwich that we bring in

2129
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:51,320
Speaker 1: the market. Let's, you know, let's do something they want

2130
02:21:51,360 --> 02:21:56,960
Speaker 1: to bang against. Yeah, Wendy's right, McDonald's Okay, Yeah, And

2131
02:21:57,720 --> 02:21:59,680
Speaker 1: it just made sense. It just made sense, you know,

2132
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:03,959
Speaker 1: be for McDonald's, sense, beef for McDonald's and just everything

2133
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:06,520
Speaker 1: I was going through, just beefwise period. They were like,

2134
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:10,800
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So that's why it's like really important

2135
02:22:10,840 --> 02:22:13,920
Speaker 1: to get the right people at these corporations because you

2136
02:22:14,040 --> 02:22:17,200
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Culture. Whoever the guy is at

2137
02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Arby's does deserve a raise. I think he got. He

2138
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:24,000
Speaker 1: could have got. Let's be clear that a lot of

2139
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:26,800
Speaker 1: these executives now are of an age and a generation

2140
02:22:26,879 --> 02:22:28,600
Speaker 1: that grew up on hip hop that probably get it.

2141
02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 1: But he could have because anybody could wrap now, he

2142
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:32,879
Speaker 1: could have got a straight faced you know what I'm

2143
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:36,920
Speaker 1: saying to do. Arby's got beef with y D's and

2144
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,600
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to say. But they got a credible lyricist,

2145
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:43,280
Speaker 1: and you really got D R B Gang And I

2146
02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:46,600
Speaker 1: ain't got it yet. Get at least the piece. Yeah, no,

2147
02:22:46,840 --> 02:23:01,040
Speaker 1: for sure, get the piece. Give me give me a ticket, yeah,

2148
02:23:01,879 --> 02:23:06,480
Speaker 1: to come down. But so Marvey steps to you and

2149
02:23:06,520 --> 02:23:08,440
Speaker 1: they said listen. Yeah. It was like, yo, let's let

2150
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:12,080
Speaker 1: let's do this. You seven drop by on me? Yes,

2151
02:23:12,440 --> 02:23:21,360
Speaker 1: for sure, everybody get everybody getting it, and man, it

2152
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:24,400
Speaker 1: really it really paid off. It really paid off. I

2153
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:27,800
Speaker 1: think it got um. It really tuned everybody from our

2154
02:23:27,879 --> 02:23:31,160
Speaker 1: culture totally into Rby's even more. I mean I don't

2155
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if they really were before, but just

2156
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 1: to see the analytics and the numbers, you know that

2157
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:38,480
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Something like Bloomberg talking about it and

2158
02:23:39,959 --> 02:23:47,720
Speaker 1: everybody because you Ronald McDonald's come back, Nah, I ain't buying.

2159
02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm not buying an it's crazy MS gag game. He's like,

2160
02:23:54,840 --> 02:24:00,560
Speaker 1: what's I was like, they made this? This is this

2161
02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:06,880
Speaker 1: is by far one of the funniest hip hop uh

2162
02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:11,680
Speaker 1: commercial like battle it is because like I said, they

2163
02:24:11,680 --> 02:24:14,800
Speaker 1: could have got astray faced. Yeah, and a guy from

2164
02:24:14,879 --> 02:24:18,800
Speaker 1: the hood that is you know, got superbars, you know,

2165
02:24:18,959 --> 02:24:22,600
Speaker 1: supertality where they got you and then and then and

2166
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:24,960
Speaker 1: then it's actually make that was a tweeting back like

2167
02:24:25,400 --> 02:24:32,080
Speaker 1: and it's a story. The story though, Drake, the story

2168
02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:36,240
Speaker 1: that's sundered off the Arby's gang. Now that's just means

2169
02:24:36,280 --> 02:24:42,560
Speaker 1: out of question. You eat the roast beef? Yeah for sure. No,

2170
02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't really know too many people, I promise you.

2171
02:24:46,920 --> 02:24:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm Allby's games as pretty clean though. Man can order

2172
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:56,440
Speaker 1: right now? What's the number seven? I don't do that.

2173
02:24:56,520 --> 02:24:58,560
Speaker 1: I do what I did? I do? I do from shading?

2174
02:24:59,000 --> 02:25:01,480
Speaker 1: Uh No, on one, I put the sesame seed on it,

2175
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:06,440
Speaker 1: shredded lettuce, tomato, arby sauce, curly fry, sweet tea. Let's go.

2176
02:25:10,879 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 1: So just I don't eat beef. Did I got chicken?

2177
02:25:16,879 --> 02:25:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm getting the fish shamwich. You sold me on the

2178
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,119
Speaker 1: fish Sam. Yes, you told me that the other niggas

2179
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:26,160
Speaker 1: is not the niggas right right right? They not with you.

2180
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:35,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some armies. We got a pop the

2181
02:25:36,160 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 1: armies wanted to dry. But did you cliche type of questions?

2182
02:25:44,200 --> 02:25:46,080
Speaker 1: But did you ever think that hip hop with tickets

2183
02:25:46,480 --> 02:25:51,119
Speaker 1: like joking around? That's why I do it. That's why

2184
02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:57,280
Speaker 1: I do it, like like I really, I really, um man,

2185
02:25:57,360 --> 02:26:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, we're from the time where like yo, my

2186
02:26:00,480 --> 02:26:03,120
Speaker 1: first my first Grammy nomination, I had to go like

2187
02:26:03,280 --> 02:26:07,520
Speaker 1: the day before when it was like tele like I'm

2188
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:11,039
Speaker 1: televised and you had your own little like stupid ceremony.

2189
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 1: They were smart. Yeah, like they won't. Chris rock Shield

2190
02:26:13,879 --> 02:26:24,080
Speaker 1: came out that it was ahead of the time show.

2191
02:26:29,200 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I told you I ain't coming. She's gonna be real

2192
02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:37,360
Speaker 1: bill Board Awards he hosted and executive producing. When I

2193
02:26:37,400 --> 02:26:40,920
Speaker 1: don't know, Coden, I'm going, I'm going here, gonna have

2194
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:49,320
Speaker 1: to security on that. You're gonna nig up. Ain't smacking tripping,

2195
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you that he want the smack. That's

2196
02:26:53,920 --> 02:26:57,280
Speaker 1: a fact. I'm gonna be front row because if not

2197
02:26:57,959 --> 02:27:02,879
Speaker 1: just a bill Board a ward, but he's he's yea

2198
02:27:03,440 --> 02:27:16,080
Speaker 1: yea drink anymore. He's also execut producing it, so like

2199
02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:21,240
Speaker 1: he's executive producer because of remember was executive produced and

2200
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:27,680
Speaker 1: produced by Will Farrell. And right, excuse me, how about

2201
02:27:29,480 --> 02:27:32,000
Speaker 1: whatever did he do? He gonna kill, he gonna kill,

2202
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:35,480
Speaker 1: he gonna dances, training and ship and the shows you

2203
02:27:35,560 --> 02:27:40,280
Speaker 1: gotta get to The show was done. Nobody playing with him. No, No,

2204
02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:42,959
Speaker 1: I'm talking, mom, he's hosting the Billboard Award. But we're

2205
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:44,959
Speaker 1: talking about the producer that you were talking about, Will

2206
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,039
Speaker 1: pat Yeah he killed the show was dope, he killed it? Yeah, yeah,

2207
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:50,120
Speaker 1: he killed it. You you're interested in the Oscars and

2208
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:53,520
Speaker 1: ship like that and Oscars. Yeah, I don't. I don't

2209
02:27:53,560 --> 02:27:56,280
Speaker 1: never watch that show. I'm gonna watching next year. Just

2210
02:27:56,320 --> 02:27:59,680
Speaker 1: want to see is gonna get it flicked? Yeah, sounds

2211
02:28:00,800 --> 02:28:04,760
Speaker 1: I never watched you Are you Award? Your God? Yeah? Yeah?

2212
02:28:05,959 --> 02:28:08,879
Speaker 1: My team breaks and ship? Uh you know, I mean

2213
02:28:09,040 --> 02:28:11,800
Speaker 1: anything that you know they gotta do with music and

2214
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:15,000
Speaker 1: especially if I'm involved, and yeah, I'm tuned in, I listen.

2215
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:18,240
Speaker 1: I want everything that comes along with it, you know

2216
02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:20,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everything that comes along with the game.

2217
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:25,160
Speaker 1: For sure. That was I was super proud of of

2218
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:31,800
Speaker 1: Daytona being nominated. Yeah, super proud of that. Like, um,

2219
02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:36,000
Speaker 1: it was good man. It was just like you just

2220
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:39,039
Speaker 1: think about me. I remember vividly being at the rock

2221
02:28:39,160 --> 02:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Nation brunch with Nipsey and it's like high five and

2222
02:28:42,360 --> 02:28:49,320
Speaker 1: and laughing like you WoT my white House ship to right? Yeah? Yeah,

2223
02:28:49,360 --> 02:28:53,040
Speaker 1: but just um, you know, just being being at the

2224
02:28:53,160 --> 02:28:57,640
Speaker 1: rock Nation brunch man and we like giggling, laughing, high

2225
02:28:57,720 --> 02:28:59,879
Speaker 1: five and like yo we got we grabam me now,

2226
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:03,160
Speaker 1: and they were in the same category like didn't fucked up?

2227
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:07,200
Speaker 1: This is crazy, you know, and just just being really happy.

2228
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:09,840
Speaker 1: I remember like discussing with him just about being really

2229
02:29:09,959 --> 02:29:15,200
Speaker 1: happy about the category itself. I felt like they got it, yeah,

2230
02:29:15,280 --> 02:29:18,840
Speaker 1: really like he I felt like they really got it right. Um,

2231
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:23,720
Speaker 1: Cardi b ended up winning that year and m and

2232
02:29:23,800 --> 02:29:25,560
Speaker 1: I still like, you know, I get it. Was it

2233
02:29:25,640 --> 02:29:28,080
Speaker 1: was Cardi, it was myself, It was Nipsy, was mcmiller,

2234
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:32,360
Speaker 1: was Travis Scott. I felt like they got all all fastests,

2235
02:29:32,400 --> 02:29:34,800
Speaker 1: all across the board, and you know, at the end

2236
02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:36,120
Speaker 1: of the day when it comes to the vote and

2237
02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:38,240
Speaker 1: it's just who they pick or whatever and who they

2238
02:29:38,320 --> 02:29:41,800
Speaker 1: think performs the best. But you know, it was something

2239
02:29:41,879 --> 02:29:43,880
Speaker 1: that I don't think any of us could be mad at.

2240
02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:49,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, the right, Yeah, no, listen,

2241
02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:54,440
Speaker 1: the Cardi one, she deserved that. But you know, having

2242
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:57,920
Speaker 1: what it is that I do in hip hop, my content,

2243
02:29:58,000 --> 02:29:59,600
Speaker 1: the ship. I talked about the ship. Where this ship

2244
02:29:59,720 --> 02:30:05,480
Speaker 1: is from, next to that, next to Mac, next to Travis,

2245
02:30:06,120 --> 02:30:10,040
Speaker 1: nip like it was bro I couldn't ask for nothing better.

2246
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:12,560
Speaker 1: And to put it in perspectives, I'm not wrong. The

2247
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:16,879
Speaker 1: Grammys before combined R and B and rap. Yes, sir, yes, sir,

2248
02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:20,360
Speaker 1: like that was crazy, Yes, sir. You remember listen they

2249
02:30:20,400 --> 02:30:23,800
Speaker 1: start a whole committee. Remember they like, there's a whole

2250
02:30:23,840 --> 02:30:25,840
Speaker 1: committee if they do one vote, and then they then

2251
02:30:25,879 --> 02:30:28,560
Speaker 1: they bringing their committee folks and be like, let's edit

2252
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:30,879
Speaker 1: this up a little bit, you know, those who are

2253
02:30:31,000 --> 02:30:35,840
Speaker 1: part of the the board. You know what I'm saying, Man,

2254
02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I missed the days of can you used to interrupt? You?

2255
02:30:40,879 --> 02:30:43,760
Speaker 1: Leave you alone? Ye let let you chill? He chilling

2256
02:30:43,879 --> 02:30:55,879
Speaker 1: right now, chilling, chill. I told him stay you at piece.

2257
02:30:55,959 --> 02:31:02,879
Speaker 1: You listen, He's listening, peaceful, calm, we giggling, laughing. Give

2258
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:08,000
Speaker 1: he designed my merch. I'm like, you know, it's you know,

2259
02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:10,280
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It was one day and I can't I

2260
02:31:10,360 --> 02:31:13,160
Speaker 1: can't reveal anything me and him spoke about. But it

2261
02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:16,440
Speaker 1: was crazy that he had called me one day and

2262
02:31:16,520 --> 02:31:20,920
Speaker 1: one of my friends called me with the same exact problem.

2263
02:31:22,120 --> 02:31:24,240
Speaker 1: And it was like one of my niggers got ten

2264
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:28,240
Speaker 1: billions and one of my dudes probably even had ten

2265
02:31:28,320 --> 02:31:35,720
Speaker 1: dollars and they had the same exact problem. And that

2266
02:31:35,800 --> 02:31:37,959
Speaker 1: ship changed my life. I remember where I was at,

2267
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:42,920
Speaker 1: was downstairs on the beach, and I just got one

2268
02:31:42,959 --> 02:31:45,879
Speaker 1: call for one dude and I got another call for another.

2269
02:31:46,080 --> 02:31:48,920
Speaker 1: It was salmon tasey right back and it was like

2270
02:31:49,080 --> 02:31:50,959
Speaker 1: they had the same exact for um, That's what let

2271
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:55,160
Speaker 1: me know that money probably doesn't really make you happy.

2272
02:31:55,840 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 1: It gives you, it puts you on that street. But

2273
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:01,160
Speaker 1: in order for you to be happy or not, you

2274
02:32:01,240 --> 02:32:04,480
Speaker 1: gotta walk through that. No, money makes me happy. Yeah,

2275
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:10,440
Speaker 1: money does make me happy. But what I'm saying, when

2276
02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I got out the car, right, what I do? What

2277
02:32:12,840 --> 02:32:14,600
Speaker 1: did I do when I got out the car? As

2278
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:16,760
Speaker 1: soon as I got off the car, Okay, we got

2279
02:32:16,840 --> 02:32:27,959
Speaker 1: you walked o right to your camera. Yes, money makes

2280
02:32:27,959 --> 02:32:31,280
Speaker 1: me happy too, But I'm saying overall, you have to

2281
02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:35,640
Speaker 1: have something else that do you agree with for sure? No,

2282
02:32:36,200 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 1: for sure you have to Yeah, yeah, but but I

2283
02:32:39,959 --> 02:32:46,160
Speaker 1: think that I think that um, money makes things better

2284
02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:49,880
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean you know, being happy, Like, being

2285
02:32:49,959 --> 02:32:53,560
Speaker 1: happy is something that you gotta like that starts within.

2286
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:57,880
Speaker 1: You have a smoke, bad bad week before. Na's horrible. Na,

2287
02:32:58,160 --> 02:33:00,200
Speaker 1: you don't never want to be broke. No, it's a

2288
02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:04,760
Speaker 1: horrible thing. You start being mad at everyone because you're smoking,

2289
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:09,400
Speaker 1: harsh no smoking set I smoke. I smoked on vacation,

2290
02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:12,680
Speaker 1: every blue everything, And then yeah you want smoke, smoke

2291
02:33:12,760 --> 02:33:21,280
Speaker 1: chap joint. I'm cool, right, now I'm drinking drinking. One

2292
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:25,560
Speaker 1: of the things that I noticed is you were very

2293
02:33:25,680 --> 02:33:28,800
Speaker 1: famous in the industry for having a whole line of

2294
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Cardi Air bracelets, bust Down, Cartier bust down. That's not

2295
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:40,879
Speaker 1: my thing. Watches, watches, let's smoke down. You know, I've

2296
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:43,160
Speaker 1: treated it. I got rid of my card as soon

2297
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:50,600
Speaker 1: as I get the get rid of the riggor came

2298
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:52,760
Speaker 1: out soreggor came out of hate my jewel. I said, listen,

2299
02:33:52,760 --> 02:33:57,520
Speaker 1: like I get rid of this. Yeah, do you under

2300
02:33:57,560 --> 02:33:59,440
Speaker 1: do you understand what you don't if you're a real

2301
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:04,400
Speaker 1: watch people, Yeah, the real watch people, you can just watch.

2302
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:08,760
Speaker 1: I can sit on myself. I Watchler, I have been.

2303
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:13,840
Speaker 1: I haven't been to watch Lover. I'm know I'm kind

2304
02:34:13,879 --> 02:34:17,959
Speaker 1: of sore, but I'm not. I don't have the ship

2305
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:20,880
Speaker 1: that looked like nothing, that's six hundred thousand. I don't have,

2306
02:34:21,920 --> 02:34:27,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, I know what they

2307
02:34:27,160 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 1: look like. But but for people that don't know that's

2308
02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:38,160
Speaker 1: a normal watch guy, Cartier bust downs are not good.

2309
02:34:39,040 --> 02:34:43,360
Speaker 1: They're just not my thing. They're just not my thing.

2310
02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:47,960
Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, you know, it teaches own, but

2311
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 1: they're just not my thing. I like I like, I

2312
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:58,480
Speaker 1: love to bracelet. How about the regular Cardier watches without

2313
02:34:58,760 --> 02:35:02,200
Speaker 1: bust out. I I think they look nice playing Judy's

2314
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I think they look nice. Yeah, they're nice. Yeah. Okay,

2315
02:35:06,040 --> 02:35:09,040
Speaker 1: that is a Batman you have on? Yes, that is

2316
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:14,600
Speaker 1: a Submariner GM g MT Batman. The man is out

2317
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:18,640
Speaker 1: here exclusive, y'all. The band is out. Don't look it,

2318
02:35:19,320 --> 02:35:21,600
Speaker 1: don't look. That's the that's the funk you watch. You

2319
02:35:21,640 --> 02:35:23,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you know when you just

2320
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:26,400
Speaker 1: outside because you know it looked normal and ship, but

2321
02:35:26,440 --> 02:35:31,400
Speaker 1: you can't find that through the retailer's crazy. So I'm

2322
02:35:31,440 --> 02:35:34,080
Speaker 1: doing that. We're trying to do a watch show, win

2323
02:35:35,760 --> 02:35:39,000
Speaker 1: wine and watches and watch what is? Because you lamed

2324
02:35:39,040 --> 02:35:43,560
Speaker 1: your album Daytona. Yeah, what is your favorite Daytona? Uh?

2325
02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:48,800
Speaker 1: The Green Anniversary, Green Face Anniversary of Gold, all Gold.

2326
02:35:48,879 --> 02:35:51,800
Speaker 1: I bought that for my wife here and I paid

2327
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:54,240
Speaker 1: and I and I and I and I and I say,

2328
02:35:54,800 --> 02:35:58,640
Speaker 1: what it for your wife? A different type of money.

2329
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:05,640
Speaker 1: But the favorite Daytona is the all Gold Green Face Anniversary.

2330
02:36:05,840 --> 02:36:09,879
Speaker 1: Very very hard, very very very It's like forms flex show.

2331
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:11,960
Speaker 1: Harder to get a ticket. It was, it was, it

2332
02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:18,480
Speaker 1: was I paid over then I never never paid overfore watch. Yeah,

2333
02:36:18,600 --> 02:36:21,240
Speaker 1: I never in my life paid overfore watch. So you

2334
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:26,040
Speaker 1: got direct to Rolex yeah, director director Rolex Germany, direct

2335
02:36:26,560 --> 02:36:30,039
Speaker 1: to Rolex Um. Not even to Rolex, but to an

2336
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:32,520
Speaker 1: authorized dealer here who's been down with them for like

2337
02:36:32,760 --> 02:36:35,840
Speaker 1: thirty years. So that's where I by all my watches

2338
02:36:35,879 --> 02:36:40,240
Speaker 1: from Germany and Miami, Germany. The family was in Atlanta.

2339
02:36:40,480 --> 02:36:43,440
Speaker 1: They were in Atlanta and they have another store in

2340
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:48,600
Speaker 1: l Alynndale, Lindale, and you get so you found there

2341
02:36:48,720 --> 02:36:54,280
Speaker 1: was I've always been retail, retail, retail until the green

2342
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:57,279
Speaker 1: face and now wife, you wanted that, that was your suggestion,

2343
02:36:57,879 --> 02:37:01,400
Speaker 1: that was what I think she should have. Ye she's boys, yea,

2344
02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:05,200
Speaker 1: she only wear Man watches. Don't seen the white lady

2345
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 1: do that to us? Watch the other day the white

2346
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Lady came in Mkodo and and I was like, excuse me,

2347
02:37:12,959 --> 02:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I had that, excuse me what is that? And she

2348
02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:19,879
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is the Mad's presidentiary. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2349
02:37:20,160 --> 02:37:25,760
Speaker 1: that is some Yeah, that is some fly ship. So

2350
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:30,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, but now I uh, I believe I paid

2351
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:38,680
Speaker 1: just twenty over and now today it's like over yeah, yeah,

2352
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:42,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah, when your name because I uh,

2353
02:37:42,879 --> 02:37:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, patting you on your back when you name

2354
02:37:45,920 --> 02:37:49,600
Speaker 1: the album Daytona, it's it's crazy. Since then, it seems

2355
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:53,000
Speaker 1: like watches appreciate it before. No, a little bit, A

2356
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:55,160
Speaker 1: little bit before no, no, no, look a little bit

2357
02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:58,200
Speaker 1: after that. I think that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you

2358
02:37:58,320 --> 02:38:01,120
Speaker 1: think you I don't know, it's me. I would have credit.

2359
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:09,320
Speaker 1: You ain't seen two up. But it's true. But Daytona, Yeah,

2360
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Daytona was was was just about having the luxury of time.

2361
02:38:13,440 --> 02:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Did you know that Daytona at that time when you

2362
02:38:15,320 --> 02:38:18,320
Speaker 1: named it, that the most expensive rolex there is is

2363
02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:22,920
Speaker 1: a Daytona. I don't think. I don't know if I knew.

2364
02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:26,039
Speaker 1: Is that the one that um the rainbow? It's two

2365
02:38:26,080 --> 02:38:30,400
Speaker 1: of them. Oh, it's one of the most expensive one factory, Yes,

2366
02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:34,760
Speaker 1: from factory Okay, yes, that one, and I believe it's

2367
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:38,000
Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage has one. That's what I was getting. That

2368
02:38:38,959 --> 02:38:40,400
Speaker 1: was That's what I thought you was. I mean, I

2369
02:38:40,480 --> 02:38:43,080
Speaker 1: thought you were going back to the somebody got an

2370
02:38:43,120 --> 02:38:46,760
Speaker 1: original life, he got some stupid Yeah, yeah, he got

2371
02:38:46,959 --> 02:38:50,560
Speaker 1: don't even look like a real wife. It's like you

2372
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:54,160
Speaker 1: just know it's going to sixty seconds. He got got

2373
02:38:55,640 --> 02:38:57,520
Speaker 1: I think him and I think it's is the guy

2374
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:00,280
Speaker 1: John Mayor too, maybe John Mays a John he's a

2375
02:39:00,360 --> 02:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Rolette just gave him for saying nigga, because you remember

2376
02:39:03,640 --> 02:39:08,000
Speaker 1: he said nigga back in the days. Yes, help me, Yeah,

2377
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:10,360
Speaker 1: he said. He was in the Vibe magazine. He said,

2378
02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:17,960
Speaker 1: and come on, I mean, let's go, let's just let's

2379
02:39:17,959 --> 02:39:24,760
Speaker 1: just go. Yeah, he's a big watch guy. Is a

2380
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:29,920
Speaker 1: big watch guy. Okay, yeah, yeah, me and Sharon have

2381
02:39:30,120 --> 02:39:34,600
Speaker 1: the same chocolate face Daytona chocolate with the leather band. Yeah.

2382
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:37,320
Speaker 1: We um he was working with chocolate with the leather band.

2383
02:39:37,760 --> 02:39:40,760
Speaker 1: Oh you sophisticated, you got suits. I got a couple,

2384
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:49,840
Speaker 1: you got right, he um um. He was down here

2385
02:39:49,879 --> 02:39:52,640
Speaker 1: working with p one time, and that's when we discovered that. Yeah,

2386
02:39:53,160 --> 02:39:57,280
Speaker 1: and he had the orange at the time. I forget,

2387
02:39:58,000 --> 02:40:01,760
Speaker 1: wasn't that. I think it's orange or Bergny's somewhere. Yeah,

2388
02:40:02,520 --> 02:40:11,440
Speaker 1: we got we got to get you a wife. I'm sorry,

2389
02:40:11,720 --> 02:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Where do you think lyricism is going in hip hop?

2390
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Because it felt that in the nineties, right like coming

2391
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:23,080
Speaker 1: out of the late eighties. We talked about the era

2392
02:40:23,200 --> 02:40:25,800
Speaker 1: and then go into the nineties, you could get it.

2393
02:40:25,879 --> 02:40:27,959
Speaker 1: You could have got a deal off of a clue

2394
02:40:28,040 --> 02:40:33,560
Speaker 1: mixtape kicking a crazy six team right sounding that you

2395
02:40:33,640 --> 02:40:35,640
Speaker 1: could have kicked these lyrics and you didn't even know

2396
02:40:35,720 --> 02:40:37,680
Speaker 1: half of these words. You were saying what they meant,

2397
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:41,720
Speaker 1: right as long as it sounded good. And then we

2398
02:40:41,879 --> 02:40:46,040
Speaker 1: departed from that heavy Where do you think the future

2399
02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:50,120
Speaker 1: of lyricism is in hip hop right now? UM? I

2400
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:57,440
Speaker 1: think that as long as there's somebody, um who has

2401
02:40:57,720 --> 02:41:01,920
Speaker 1: the who has the passion, who has the passion for

2402
02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:06,119
Speaker 1: for finding that lyric driven hip hop, you know, whether

2403
02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:10,039
Speaker 1: they be in these labels or whether they're a fan. UM,

2404
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:12,440
Speaker 1: I think lyricism is gonna be here forever. I don't think.

2405
02:41:12,720 --> 02:41:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't think the fundamentals of hip hop die like.

2406
02:41:16,200 --> 02:41:22,320
Speaker 1: I think that that is what UM. That is always

2407
02:41:22,360 --> 02:41:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna be the cornerstone, cornerstone and driving force of anybody

2408
02:41:27,560 --> 02:41:33,360
Speaker 1: who we say is nice out here? So and there's all.

2409
02:41:33,480 --> 02:41:36,480
Speaker 1: And when you think about it, think about everybody, you know,

2410
02:41:36,560 --> 02:41:38,800
Speaker 1: all the biggest in the game. You know what I'm saying,

2411
02:41:39,160 --> 02:41:42,000
Speaker 1: They all are you know, respective for their pen or

2412
02:41:42,040 --> 02:41:45,280
Speaker 1: respective for their lyricism. You know, you have all other

2413
02:41:45,720 --> 02:41:49,480
Speaker 1: type of subgenres of hip hop. Um, you know, more

2414
02:41:49,640 --> 02:41:52,920
Speaker 1: viaby more whatever. But at the base of it all,

2415
02:41:53,440 --> 02:41:55,080
Speaker 1: even you know, look at future and look at what

2416
02:41:55,160 --> 02:41:58,320
Speaker 1: future does when you when you but when you hear

2417
02:41:58,400 --> 02:42:00,640
Speaker 1: him and you decipher what he's saying, and even he

2418
02:42:00,840 --> 02:42:03,760
Speaker 1: has a title of being like the illest toxic motherfucker

2419
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:06,440
Speaker 1: because you you know, because people can hear and understand

2420
02:42:06,480 --> 02:42:08,880
Speaker 1: and relate to what he's talking about. That too is

2421
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:13,360
Speaker 1: like because I'm from Miami, and to me, Trick was

2422
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:16,080
Speaker 1: like the jay Z of Miami. If you from Miami,

2423
02:42:16,160 --> 02:42:19,920
Speaker 1: you understand what he's talking. He's talking about for sure,

2424
02:42:20,080 --> 02:42:23,520
Speaker 1: Hella lyrical for sure. But UM, let me actually, because um,

2425
02:42:24,640 --> 02:42:26,960
Speaker 1: I've heard you bring up future to automatically made me

2426
02:42:27,040 --> 02:42:29,800
Speaker 1: think of designer, right, let me me think of that

2427
02:42:29,920 --> 02:42:32,840
Speaker 1: you were the president at the time. And um, he's

2428
02:42:32,879 --> 02:42:36,680
Speaker 1: been trying to get at us um quite some time,

2429
02:42:37,280 --> 02:42:39,440
Speaker 1: and I haven't been able to speak to him direct.

2430
02:42:39,440 --> 02:42:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you have neither right designer independent, but um,

2431
02:42:45,000 --> 02:42:48,280
Speaker 1: and his claim is, you know, Kanye, you got my publishing.

2432
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:52,240
Speaker 1: Good Music has the rights to me. He doesn't get

2433
02:42:53,080 --> 02:42:56,160
Speaker 1: any publisher and he doesn't get any royalties. He doesn't

2434
02:42:56,200 --> 02:43:01,040
Speaker 1: get any anything like that. But yet I believe when

2435
02:43:01,640 --> 02:43:05,640
Speaker 1: the signing did happen, it was a big upfront check. Right.

2436
02:43:06,600 --> 02:43:09,320
Speaker 1: Where are you stand on positions like that? I mean

2437
02:43:09,480 --> 02:43:12,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like, well, I know, Designer

2438
02:43:12,840 --> 02:43:16,120
Speaker 1: made a lot of money, made tons of money, and

2439
02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:20,199
Speaker 1: it's a difference from front money. Um. I mean, however

2440
02:43:20,280 --> 02:43:22,280
Speaker 1: you want to look at it, he made, he made.

2441
02:43:22,480 --> 02:43:26,280
Speaker 1: He came in the game and made tons of money.

2442
02:43:27,280 --> 02:43:33,120
Speaker 1: No line, Um, you know I'm not on his you know,

2443
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 1: in his management or anything like that. So yeah, so

2444
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,959
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, Um, I don't know how

2445
02:43:40,240 --> 02:43:45,160
Speaker 1: even his deal in structure. I know, I know he

2446
02:43:45,959 --> 02:43:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure it was negotiated by his lawyer

2447
02:43:48,240 --> 02:43:53,240
Speaker 1: for sure. And however that turned out. You know, he

2448
02:43:53,520 --> 02:44:00,120
Speaker 1: was he he approved it, whatever it was, you know

2449
02:44:00,160 --> 02:44:03,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And ship when you think about it,

2450
02:44:03,480 --> 02:44:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Designer was hot man like super hot,

2451
02:44:06,560 --> 02:44:11,040
Speaker 1: came into the game, you uh made, made your song

2452
02:44:11,320 --> 02:44:16,680
Speaker 1: one of his biggest records on Pablo, Um gave you

2453
02:44:16,720 --> 02:44:18,880
Speaker 1: a hell of a springboard, hell of a you know,

2454
02:44:19,360 --> 02:44:25,120
Speaker 1: hell of a trampoline to jump off. And yeah, I

2455
02:44:25,200 --> 02:44:27,480
Speaker 1: mean I don't know, like I don't hear like you see,

2456
02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't hear the side of like designer being disgrunted.

2457
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't hear. UM's it's a case because whoever he's calling,

2458
02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:41,040
Speaker 1: that's their point as saying, Yo, listen. He wants to

2459
02:44:41,080 --> 02:44:44,360
Speaker 1: say like how he didn't he doesn't receive royalties and

2460
02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:47,880
Speaker 1: um uh, he doesn't own his publishing or whatever. And

2461
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:50,600
Speaker 1: it's it's something that you know, when I got in

2462
02:44:50,640 --> 02:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the game, I sold my publish and I didn't know, Uh,

2463
02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:55,000
Speaker 1: you didn't know you sold it. I didn't know. I

2464
02:44:55,080 --> 02:44:57,280
Speaker 1: got it back the next very next hour, very next

2465
02:44:57,560 --> 02:45:00,880
Speaker 1: you sold it, though, but you know I know I knew.

2466
02:45:00,920 --> 02:45:06,440
Speaker 1: I knew it afterwards after Um, whose fault is that? No?

2467
02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:08,880
Speaker 1: That was depletely my fault. Okay, it was clearly my

2468
02:45:08,959 --> 02:45:11,600
Speaker 1: fun You were hella young, You were like what, I'm seventeen,

2469
02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:16,760
Speaker 1: I was seventeen eight. Maybe not your fault because council. Yeah,

2470
02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:22,360
Speaker 1: but but but you know, having uh you know, having

2471
02:45:22,560 --> 02:45:26,520
Speaker 1: having having lawyers and and and being in tune with

2472
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:29,440
Speaker 1: your lawyer and your team being in tune with your lawyer,

2473
02:45:29,560 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 1: that that definitely does fall on you because you've got

2474
02:45:32,120 --> 02:45:36,720
Speaker 1: artists right now too, right Uh, money on Um no, no, y'all,

2475
02:45:36,800 --> 02:45:39,480
Speaker 1: y'all just my man. Okay, okay, y'ah my man, y'a y'all,

2476
02:45:39,560 --> 02:45:42,680
Speaker 1: y'all getting too much money to be my honest already.

2477
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:51,920
Speaker 1: So to speak about your speak about I don't know

2478
02:45:52,000 --> 02:45:57,720
Speaker 1: what we told about that, but yeah, yeah, I have

2479
02:45:58,160 --> 02:46:01,720
Speaker 1: a record label that I'm that I'm building, not good music, yeah,

2480
02:46:03,800 --> 02:46:09,400
Speaker 1: Airway Music Group, Um it is, um it's it's basically

2481
02:46:09,560 --> 02:46:14,400
Speaker 1: me building the infrastructure for people from the Virginia area

2482
02:46:15,040 --> 02:46:19,199
Speaker 1: to be noticed. Like the one thing that I always

2483
02:46:19,240 --> 02:46:21,400
Speaker 1: say is that when you think about all of us

2484
02:46:21,600 --> 02:46:24,760
Speaker 1: who came into the game Tennessee for real, clips whatever,

2485
02:46:26,480 --> 02:46:31,360
Speaker 1: being not producers, whoever, Right, Um, we all had to

2486
02:46:31,480 --> 02:46:36,039
Speaker 1: leave and go get hot, skills, goog whatever. We all

2487
02:46:36,160 --> 02:46:38,520
Speaker 1: had to leave and go get hot I mean you

2488
02:46:38,560 --> 02:46:40,560
Speaker 1: know we had to leave and go ask for deals

2489
02:46:42,680 --> 02:46:45,280
Speaker 1: at that time, right, Well, yeah, for every region it

2490
02:46:45,440 --> 02:46:48,400
Speaker 1: wasn't outside of New York, outside of New York, and

2491
02:46:56,440 --> 02:47:01,000
Speaker 1: it was where the industry was. So so would that

2492
02:47:01,080 --> 02:47:04,920
Speaker 1: be in the case, and again we were adopted by

2493
02:47:05,360 --> 02:47:08,760
Speaker 1: that New York circuit. Virginia was. We never took the

2494
02:47:08,879 --> 02:47:11,920
Speaker 1: time that Houston did to build out there's or Memphis did,

2495
02:47:12,040 --> 02:47:16,240
Speaker 1: or in Atlanta did or Bay Area? It right, they

2496
02:47:16,360 --> 02:47:20,039
Speaker 1: did that, so you know, come around fast forward. That's

2497
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:23,880
Speaker 1: why when you look at what's hot, what's going on,

2498
02:47:24,040 --> 02:47:26,680
Speaker 1: what's bubbling under, what's got the most streams, so on

2499
02:47:26,760 --> 02:47:29,640
Speaker 1: and so forth, that's not signed yet, you can see

2500
02:47:29,680 --> 02:47:33,680
Speaker 1: it in all those different places because those places, you know,

2501
02:47:34,120 --> 02:47:38,520
Speaker 1: taught the people how to even be fans of their neighbor.

2502
02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:42,080
Speaker 1: We never, we never were talked that. So that's that's

2503
02:47:42,080 --> 02:47:45,879
Speaker 1: the whole goal. And Airway Music a Airwave Airway music group.

2504
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:51,040
Speaker 1: Um uh shouting R and B songstress. Um, oh yeah

2505
02:47:51,120 --> 02:47:57,640
Speaker 1: she was at we we met her revolt. Yeah she's

2506
02:47:57,720 --> 02:48:06,400
Speaker 1: she's so no we she's dope at right. Yeah. So

2507
02:48:07,320 --> 02:48:10,840
Speaker 1: um you know, uh Leado, why not do something good? Bro,

2508
02:48:12,320 --> 02:48:18,280
Speaker 1: I've been drinking, but yeah, why not douce Leado shout

2509
02:48:18,360 --> 02:48:23,320
Speaker 1: ling Um. You know. Also not signed, not signed to

2510
02:48:23,320 --> 02:48:26,640
Speaker 1: the Airwave, but I manage him with my man dre

2511
02:48:27,520 --> 02:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Um is young Chris. He's like really viral right now.

2512
02:48:30,680 --> 02:48:34,160
Speaker 1: He's on the little Techer tour. They signed in Colombia.

2513
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:36,600
Speaker 1: But um, so it's a it's a few, it's a

2514
02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:39,400
Speaker 1: few uh people out of out of v a right

2515
02:48:39,440 --> 02:48:42,119
Speaker 1: now making noise and more that aren't that aren't affiliated

2516
02:48:42,160 --> 02:48:45,160
Speaker 1: with me. But the whole goal for airwave is to

2517
02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:47,720
Speaker 1: create that infrastructure so that it can be more to

2518
02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:50,320
Speaker 1: come through and signed me or don't sign me, whatever

2519
02:48:50,360 --> 02:48:53,680
Speaker 1: the case may be. At least at least they will

2520
02:48:54,080 --> 02:48:58,120
Speaker 1: garner that fanfare that will get them national attention eventually.

2521
02:48:58,680 --> 02:49:06,240
Speaker 1: That's the goal that still um Barreto was one of

2522
02:49:06,280 --> 02:49:08,920
Speaker 1: the greatest producers of all time, without a doubt, no

2523
02:49:09,400 --> 02:49:14,400
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about. Yes, why do you think that?

2524
02:49:14,800 --> 02:49:18,920
Speaker 1: He kind of because I always say that, you know,

2525
02:49:19,080 --> 02:49:23,200
Speaker 1: I always say that because, um, how my career was.

2526
02:49:23,480 --> 02:49:26,320
Speaker 1: I was the man. I was the man in New York,

2527
02:49:26,400 --> 02:49:28,680
Speaker 1: and at the time, being a man in New York

2528
02:49:28,760 --> 02:49:30,680
Speaker 1: did mean you was the man all over the place.

2529
02:49:31,200 --> 02:49:32,840
Speaker 1: But it didn't mean all over the place was going

2530
02:49:32,879 --> 02:49:37,520
Speaker 1: to accept you. And that beat that for well. He

2531
02:49:37,640 --> 02:49:41,480
Speaker 1: was smart enough to say I'm gonna leave super Thug

2532
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:44,920
Speaker 1: because he could swipt those drums and made it sound

2533
02:49:44,959 --> 02:49:48,359
Speaker 1: like Premo drums, made it sound like Lawn's Professor drums,

2534
02:49:48,840 --> 02:49:51,360
Speaker 1: made it sound like having drums would have never did

2535
02:49:51,440 --> 02:49:54,880
Speaker 1: that though, I'll tell you why. But and this was

2536
02:49:55,040 --> 02:49:58,039
Speaker 1: the first time where people really got to hear East

2537
02:49:58,120 --> 02:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Coast do rhyme on what is considered almost a south

2538
02:50:02,120 --> 02:50:07,640
Speaker 1: beat and I wouldn't say quite south, but almost. And

2539
02:50:08,360 --> 02:50:11,720
Speaker 1: I've seen the effect I've seen. I've seen me be

2540
02:50:11,760 --> 02:50:14,959
Speaker 1: in the studio with with with like you said, all

2541
02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:17,680
Speaker 1: this time, He'll hear a story, He'll make a beat

2542
02:50:17,800 --> 02:50:21,080
Speaker 1: around the story, He'll make around the story. I've seen

2543
02:50:21,160 --> 02:50:24,840
Speaker 1: him create magic out of nowhere. How can every time

2544
02:50:24,920 --> 02:50:27,360
Speaker 1: I say this around him he bows his head and

2545
02:50:27,480 --> 02:50:30,240
Speaker 1: he gets humble? Is that is that because he really

2546
02:50:30,440 --> 02:50:36,600
Speaker 1: he really hated. I hated. I hate it. I absolutely

2547
02:50:36,760 --> 02:50:39,920
Speaker 1: hated that. He doesn't want to be coy about it. Yes,

2548
02:50:40,320 --> 02:50:44,320
Speaker 1: I want him to be hip hop about it. Yeah, yeah,

2549
02:50:44,480 --> 02:50:45,920
Speaker 1: that's what I'm like. You know what I'm saying, Like

2550
02:50:46,360 --> 02:50:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, I hate it, like I absolutely hate it.

2551
02:50:49,120 --> 02:50:54,040
Speaker 1: He knows I hate it. I hated like bad, like

2552
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like it's tough, it's like you know,

2553
02:50:59,320 --> 02:51:00,920
Speaker 1: you know. And maybe that works with some of the

2554
02:51:01,040 --> 02:51:03,960
Speaker 1: music that he does. But like when we on what

2555
02:51:04,080 --> 02:51:09,920
Speaker 1: we're on, I need you to be big chains, big

2556
02:51:10,040 --> 02:51:15,520
Speaker 1: cars crashing ferraris. Like I remember where I would come

2557
02:51:15,560 --> 02:51:18,280
Speaker 1: to the studio playing with Swiss Beat Joint and he'll

2558
02:51:18,360 --> 02:51:24,760
Speaker 1: just look at me like, all right, bro, listen the whole,

2559
02:51:24,959 --> 02:51:28,400
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, that whole, early two thousand things

2560
02:51:28,480 --> 02:51:33,960
Speaker 1: was all about competition. Ryandon was specifically made to try

2561
02:51:34,120 --> 02:51:41,480
Speaker 1: to do something that could eclipse the Benjamin's disrupted. That

2562
02:51:42,040 --> 02:51:45,920
Speaker 1: was the goal. That was the goal. Um, when you

2563
02:51:46,040 --> 02:51:50,000
Speaker 1: talk about Primo and and and people like that, who

2564
02:51:50,080 --> 02:51:55,200
Speaker 1: are his you know he's you know, he's there right right,

2565
02:51:56,080 --> 02:51:59,920
Speaker 1: but still going into the studio, it was like, Okay,

2566
02:52:00,160 --> 02:52:04,040
Speaker 1: what can I do to outdo that? He's the reason, right,

2567
02:52:04,120 --> 02:52:07,279
Speaker 1: here's the reason now that I when I listen to beats,

2568
02:52:07,600 --> 02:52:10,400
Speaker 1: they got to be something unorthodox. It doesn't like I

2569
02:52:10,480 --> 02:52:13,120
Speaker 1: don't like just muddy, hard beats. I don't. I don't

2570
02:52:13,160 --> 02:52:15,400
Speaker 1: like that. That's not because I know now that beats

2571
02:52:15,440 --> 02:52:18,440
Speaker 1: can be bright and have like beasts can be hard,

2572
02:52:18,520 --> 02:52:22,080
Speaker 1: and it can be super thug level of chaos starting

2573
02:52:22,160 --> 02:52:26,160
Speaker 1: fights and all that be right, don't gotta be muddy

2574
02:52:26,240 --> 02:52:28,119
Speaker 1: and trudgy. And you know what I'm saying, you would

2575
02:52:28,120 --> 02:52:31,840
Speaker 1: have never thought for the first time in the studio,

2576
02:52:31,879 --> 02:52:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you know it's crazy. When we first placed

2577
02:52:35,080 --> 02:52:38,320
Speaker 1: with program directors and you know, mixture people, they said

2578
02:52:38,320 --> 02:52:40,640
Speaker 1: the record was too dark. Yep. So that's the reason

2579
02:52:40,720 --> 02:52:42,760
Speaker 1: why we if you noticed, we never made a dark

2580
02:52:43,400 --> 02:52:46,120
Speaker 1: scene in the video, we made it all bright because

2581
02:52:46,800 --> 02:52:48,840
Speaker 1: and they said it was too dark because you know why,

2582
02:52:48,920 --> 02:52:51,440
Speaker 1: I never heard that it was crazy. It's this is crazy.

2583
02:52:51,920 --> 02:52:56,560
Speaker 1: And Rod Walker definitely knows this. My reputation as a

2584
02:52:56,640 --> 02:52:59,120
Speaker 1: street dude was so bad at the time, and they

2585
02:52:59,160 --> 02:53:01,560
Speaker 1: didn't hear about the NEP tunes. They didn't. They didn't.

2586
02:53:02,200 --> 02:53:04,160
Speaker 1: They didn't realize that this is the same dude that

2587
02:53:04,160 --> 02:53:06,200
Speaker 1: I was doing the Mace records, that was doing the

2588
02:53:06,280 --> 02:53:12,560
Speaker 1: Pump records. They do it. We t u yes the

2589
02:53:12,600 --> 02:53:14,200
Speaker 1: way it used to be like one of the best.

2590
02:53:14,360 --> 02:53:18,440
Speaker 1: And they thought they were gamesters. So they're like, we

2591
02:53:18,520 --> 02:53:20,520
Speaker 1: can't be happy you guys with these Neptune guys. But

2592
02:53:20,600 --> 02:53:22,520
Speaker 1: until I put them in the video and they was like, oh,

2593
02:53:22,800 --> 02:53:27,240
Speaker 1: these guys are not gamesters at all at all, which works,

2594
02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:29,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I go back to

2595
02:53:29,680 --> 02:53:32,640
Speaker 1: say that, like, you know, I was a kid, you know,

2596
02:53:32,800 --> 02:53:35,080
Speaker 1: doing that. I was a kid watching y'all make grinding.

2597
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:38,840
Speaker 1: I was a kid watching these beautiful albums in these

2598
02:53:38,840 --> 02:53:41,600
Speaker 1: beautiful records coming together. And when I come back and

2599
02:53:41,680 --> 02:53:44,160
Speaker 1: I think about it, I was like, this dude, if

2600
02:53:44,520 --> 02:53:48,120
Speaker 1: not the he is one of the best producers of

2601
02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:52,440
Speaker 1: more times for sure. He took me from a sound

2602
02:53:52,879 --> 02:53:55,920
Speaker 1: that was clearly just for New York like like like

2603
02:53:56,200 --> 02:53:59,760
Speaker 1: to this day, I'm nothing Miami for fifteen years to

2604
02:54:00,160 --> 02:54:03,760
Speaker 1: open up my mouth, but from New York I can't.

2605
02:54:05,120 --> 02:54:08,959
Speaker 1: I can't, right, But he was able to take my boys,

2606
02:54:09,080 --> 02:54:11,800
Speaker 1: keep me in New York, but make me international. That

2607
02:54:11,959 --> 02:54:18,480
Speaker 1: was I was amazing. Can I ask you for for

2608
02:54:19,560 --> 02:54:22,360
Speaker 1: for pure ignorance? Because the Neptunes is the Neptune, the

2609
02:54:22,400 --> 02:54:26,280
Speaker 1: last Chad and Pharrell? Yeah, what's Chat's rolling that? Because

2610
02:54:26,320 --> 02:54:29,080
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're referring to Super Thug to me,

2611
02:54:29,200 --> 02:54:33,320
Speaker 1: that's the Neptune, but you're referring to Farrell alone. What's

2612
02:54:33,440 --> 02:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Chat's rolling in in the production? Um? Well, I've worked

2613
02:54:37,360 --> 02:54:40,440
Speaker 1: with them through many eras, so you know, when I

2614
02:54:40,520 --> 02:54:45,400
Speaker 1: initially was working with the Neptunes, Um, let's say for

2615
02:54:45,760 --> 02:54:48,959
Speaker 1: the album that never came out or for Lord Willing,

2616
02:54:49,440 --> 02:54:53,360
Speaker 1: it was more of Uh, Chad would do the keys

2617
02:54:53,400 --> 02:54:57,240
Speaker 1: and the chords, and he would play um and add

2618
02:54:57,520 --> 02:54:59,960
Speaker 1: you know those type of like keyboards signs. He was

2619
02:55:00,040 --> 02:55:04,000
Speaker 1: just Scott Storch of that situation. Yeah, I guess. I

2620
02:55:04,160 --> 02:55:07,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to. Yeah, I guess because

2621
02:55:07,280 --> 02:55:11,200
Speaker 1: he's famous for playing, so yeah, playing, Yeah, that's what

2622
02:55:11,600 --> 02:55:13,480
Speaker 1: that's what he did. It was it was that, it

2623
02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:15,600
Speaker 1: was the it was the playing, and it was the sounds,

2624
02:55:15,720 --> 02:55:19,440
Speaker 1: like you know, finding those unorthodox sounds that would go

2625
02:55:19,560 --> 02:55:23,400
Speaker 1: into the Neptune sound. You know, it was funny. Sorry

2626
02:55:23,440 --> 02:55:26,240
Speaker 1: to cut you off. I always thought it was all

2627
02:55:26,440 --> 02:55:29,560
Speaker 1: both of them, like at one point um when like

2628
02:55:29,720 --> 02:55:31,480
Speaker 1: we're all we're just coming around and it wouldn't be

2629
02:55:31,560 --> 02:55:33,840
Speaker 1: a child. I would always feel jerk, like what's going on?

2630
02:55:34,120 --> 02:55:37,000
Speaker 1: Like I never knew that they can co exist without

2631
02:55:37,040 --> 02:55:41,040
Speaker 1: each other because I mean, you know, for Pharrell, at

2632
02:55:41,120 --> 02:55:44,960
Speaker 1: the time, Pharrell wasn't playing, and then he started playing,

2633
02:55:45,640 --> 02:55:50,440
Speaker 1: and then and things like that. So now you get

2634
02:55:50,520 --> 02:55:54,720
Speaker 1: into hell hath no Fury and that's all for Rell,

2635
02:55:56,160 --> 02:56:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, and I mean, you know, mostly for real.

2636
02:56:02,200 --> 02:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean I'm trying to think back, and I don't

2637
02:56:04,040 --> 02:56:06,760
Speaker 1: want to like say anything that's wrong or whatever, but

2638
02:56:08,160 --> 02:56:11,560
Speaker 1: hell half No Fury was very top to bottom p

2639
02:56:12,480 --> 02:56:20,080
Speaker 1: r um um you know. Uh, since then, it has

2640
02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:24,160
Speaker 1: definitely been a lot of p Then maybe there's some

2641
02:56:24,320 --> 02:56:30,080
Speaker 1: post production co production and definitely mixing Um on the

2642
02:56:30,160 --> 02:56:37,959
Speaker 1: engineering side of the final product with chad Um. But um,

2643
02:56:39,200 --> 02:56:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, it just depends on the project. I just

2644
02:56:41,800 --> 02:56:44,560
Speaker 1: think it's important when we talk about that era that

2645
02:56:44,680 --> 02:56:46,720
Speaker 1: it was both of them. Oh yeah, I mean you're

2646
02:56:46,720 --> 02:56:49,720
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, you're talking about what I'm saying is

2647
02:56:49,760 --> 02:56:52,800
Speaker 1: the neptune. And then when when breaks off, it's clearly

2648
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:56,360
Speaker 1: it's it's Pas going in. Yeah, he's doing both. I

2649
02:56:56,360 --> 02:56:59,880
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with by itself. Yeah, but but it's always

2650
02:57:00,120 --> 02:57:02,760
Speaker 1: like it's always like um, and I don't want to

2651
02:57:02,760 --> 02:57:05,800
Speaker 1: say it, like this was always like seeing like Santa

2652
02:57:05,800 --> 02:57:10,320
Speaker 1: Claus and the Elves, or Santa Claus and his wife

2653
02:57:10,640 --> 02:57:13,320
Speaker 1: at Santa Claus, you know, like if you just see

2654
02:57:13,360 --> 02:57:16,480
Speaker 1: Santa close by myself, it's not Christmas. It's like I

2655
02:57:16,640 --> 02:57:19,080
Speaker 1: want to see like the bag. The bag is a

2656
02:57:19,200 --> 02:57:22,640
Speaker 1: character too, And when I see both of them, for

2657
02:57:22,760 --> 02:57:25,000
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, I see Santa Clause, I

2658
02:57:25,080 --> 02:57:28,160
Speaker 1: see the Elves, I see the bags, the clocks, I

2659
02:57:28,200 --> 02:57:31,880
Speaker 1: see the sling. Like you know what I'm saying, Like me,

2660
02:57:32,160 --> 02:57:36,720
Speaker 1: like I'm always that. That was my first international new hit,

2661
02:57:37,760 --> 02:57:40,480
Speaker 1: and I was proud to and I remember, for what else, saying,

2662
02:57:40,520 --> 02:57:42,160
Speaker 1: no one listens to me. So that's what I remember.

2663
02:57:42,400 --> 02:57:43,840
Speaker 1: He's like, no one shots me out. That's why I

2664
02:57:43,879 --> 02:57:45,960
Speaker 1: wanted to put that in the n E. P t U.

2665
02:57:46,200 --> 02:57:49,560
Speaker 1: And he has to be like one of the best.

2666
02:57:49,920 --> 02:57:54,560
Speaker 1: And I just seen the fuation and you know that

2667
02:57:54,760 --> 02:57:59,760
Speaker 1: was that was you was their group, and it was like,

2668
02:58:00,120 --> 02:58:01,920
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's why I keep bringing up grinding.

2669
02:58:01,959 --> 02:58:04,960
Speaker 1: It's because for us, like I said, and I said

2670
02:58:04,959 --> 02:58:07,200
Speaker 1: it earlier for us to even go out there and

2671
02:58:07,280 --> 02:58:10,320
Speaker 1: see that this is a different world. We just thought, Okay,

2672
02:58:10,360 --> 02:58:13,520
Speaker 1: there's Virginia, but zoom zoom and the boom boom this

2673
02:58:13,600 --> 02:58:17,080
Speaker 1: girl's running around with and they're like, oh, these niggas

2674
02:58:17,080 --> 02:58:23,600
Speaker 1: is selling crack. Oh, this is why I think it

2675
02:58:23,720 --> 02:58:31,800
Speaker 1: so crazy. We too holy everywhere. And then even even

2676
02:58:31,920 --> 02:58:34,360
Speaker 1: even because he was coming from Newport Beach and we're

2677
02:58:34,400 --> 02:58:36,600
Speaker 1: just saying, okay, Newport Beach was like, all right, they

2678
02:58:36,680 --> 02:58:39,800
Speaker 1: gotta be something nice about that, and oh oh no

2679
02:58:39,959 --> 02:58:48,039
Speaker 1: Virginia Beach. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah from something terrible literally, yeah,

2680
02:58:48,200 --> 02:58:51,880
Speaker 1: but he's from something very terrible. But like you know,

2681
02:58:52,440 --> 02:58:56,920
Speaker 1: back yeah, it was bags of money, pit bulls rolling

2682
02:58:56,959 --> 02:59:00,880
Speaker 1: around the apartments type shit in his neighborhoods terrible, like

2683
02:59:01,320 --> 02:59:04,960
Speaker 1: listen for him to be who he is, like he

2684
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:08,640
Speaker 1: made he made a definite choice to say I'm gonna

2685
02:59:08,760 --> 02:59:14,720
Speaker 1: be this guy, not that guy because he's from the gutter. Yeah,

2686
02:59:14,959 --> 02:59:16,440
Speaker 1: I've said it so bad. I don't even want to

2687
02:59:16,480 --> 02:59:18,160
Speaker 1: say that. What calling I mean, I love the name

2688
02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:21,600
Speaker 1: of beautiful people from there, but bro, yeah he's from it.

2689
02:59:22,320 --> 02:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Um really, remember I'm wolcome Toby. Yeah he's probably, but

2690
02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:27,160
Speaker 1: he does not want to be a part of it

2691
02:59:27,280 --> 02:59:30,680
Speaker 1: at all. And he made a record for me, and

2692
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:34,720
Speaker 1: it's like thinking, stets up. I don't know if you

2693
02:59:34,760 --> 02:59:37,720
Speaker 1: remember this record. It's all the um it's one of

2694
02:59:37,720 --> 02:59:41,320
Speaker 1: the clones out okay, And he's just talking about gang banking.

2695
02:59:41,879 --> 02:59:46,160
Speaker 1: Remember what we're talking about, gag like like sts up?

2696
02:59:48,720 --> 02:59:50,840
Speaker 1: Remember walking looked at me and it was like, this

2697
02:59:50,959 --> 02:59:56,280
Speaker 1: is your fault gang banging. He doesn't want to talk

2698
02:59:56,320 --> 02:59:57,960
Speaker 1: one gang kid, He doesn't want to talk about no

2699
02:59:58,160 --> 03:00:01,080
Speaker 1: tough godship until you walk into I remember, I was

2700
03:00:01,160 --> 03:00:03,640
Speaker 1: just it would be so funny, man, you know, he

2701
03:00:04,120 --> 03:00:10,720
Speaker 1: he morphs into you know, whoever he's around. That's that's

2702
03:00:10,840 --> 03:00:13,920
Speaker 1: that's like Robley one of his best you know attributes.

2703
03:00:14,000 --> 03:00:16,640
Speaker 1: That's why when you say you tell a story or whatever,

2704
03:00:16,680 --> 03:00:19,920
Speaker 1: the kid like you know, super Thug is rambunctionous because

2705
03:00:19,920 --> 03:00:22,199
Speaker 1: that's how he sees you exactly. You know what I'm saying.

2706
03:00:22,560 --> 03:00:24,840
Speaker 1: At that time, that wouldn't be a good producer because

2707
03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:30,280
Speaker 1: a specific artist. Yeah, I always say, uh. The first

2708
03:00:30,360 --> 03:00:34,720
Speaker 1: time I was produced produced, for the first time I

2709
03:00:34,840 --> 03:00:40,520
Speaker 1: was really produced was Clark Kent. After of course that

2710
03:00:40,600 --> 03:00:45,240
Speaker 1: was produced produced. I've seen Clark records. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2711
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:49,440
Speaker 1: asked him, who do I need to I talked to

2712
03:00:49,600 --> 03:00:54,600
Speaker 1: Clark Kent. Yes, forgot it. That's that's crazy. I never

2713
03:00:54,680 --> 03:00:58,640
Speaker 1: knew you. Clark was the first person to actually because

2714
03:00:58,840 --> 03:01:00,560
Speaker 1: I knew how to rhyme, I knew the today I

2715
03:01:00,600 --> 03:01:02,520
Speaker 1: would I would, I would come into the studio with

2716
03:01:02,600 --> 03:01:05,480
Speaker 1: twenty four bars and thirty six bars and like, this

2717
03:01:05,600 --> 03:01:09,120
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense in the world. You have to structure

2718
03:01:09,160 --> 03:01:11,640
Speaker 1: this ship. So Clark was the first person to produce me.

2719
03:01:12,160 --> 03:01:15,120
Speaker 1: Then the first person to produced me but without giving

2720
03:01:15,160 --> 03:01:18,640
Speaker 1: me the was track masters. The first person would be like, yo,

2721
03:01:18,720 --> 03:01:22,160
Speaker 1: look here's how the intro to sound his desk, his

2722
03:01:22,360 --> 03:01:24,200
Speaker 1: dad all you gotta do is do your part here

2723
03:01:24,280 --> 03:01:28,080
Speaker 1: and that's it. That was like he gave me the

2724
03:01:28,280 --> 03:01:33,120
Speaker 1: keys to the fucking car. He gave me the vanilla

2725
03:01:33,600 --> 03:01:39,840
Speaker 1: tree to smell good. He came out. You know what

2726
03:01:39,879 --> 03:01:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the at the voice wagon jether. You

2727
03:01:47,160 --> 03:01:48,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All I had to do was

2728
03:01:48,520 --> 03:01:51,640
Speaker 1: just go in and just rhyme and then like you

2729
03:01:51,720 --> 03:01:58,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, God noise boy. Before we get

2730
03:01:58,840 --> 03:02:00,400
Speaker 1: out of here, I want to speak about this y'all ofting,

2731
03:02:00,440 --> 03:02:03,360
Speaker 1: but I want to say something real quiz I've been

2732
03:02:03,400 --> 03:02:06,840
Speaker 1: on this dirty day, you know, uh, non drinking thing

2733
03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:10,280
Speaker 1: me shout out to thank you. I appreciate that, but

2734
03:02:10,360 --> 03:02:13,600
Speaker 1: it was because a couple of things. One thing is

2735
03:02:13,840 --> 03:02:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna ever, ever, ever, ever, ever drink before

2736
03:02:16,600 --> 03:02:20,480
Speaker 1: an episode. Again, I've already had that rule. I've already

2737
03:02:20,560 --> 03:02:22,800
Speaker 1: was supposed to do that. I can't blame being drinking

2738
03:02:23,320 --> 03:02:26,880
Speaker 1: on like, uh a problem with a professional drinker. The

2739
03:02:26,959 --> 03:02:31,480
Speaker 1: problem is sometimes I take or I use information, Like

2740
03:02:31,560 --> 03:02:33,400
Speaker 1: when I looked at the information and I look I

2741
03:02:33,440 --> 03:02:36,720
Speaker 1: actually cringed and I looked at the episode where I

2742
03:02:36,760 --> 03:02:40,920
Speaker 1: spoke about um, I've made it sound like eminemic gave

2743
03:02:41,560 --> 03:02:47,520
Speaker 1: automated like yoo, it's either you're gonna uh have fifty

2744
03:02:47,560 --> 03:02:50,840
Speaker 1: perform or I'm not gonna show up. And that was

2745
03:02:50,920 --> 03:02:52,960
Speaker 1: not it. What it was was I was being drunk.

2746
03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:55,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to like hype up the episode, and

2747
03:02:55,400 --> 03:02:57,640
Speaker 1: I was using words and I'm using it so I

2748
03:02:57,720 --> 03:03:04,440
Speaker 1: was trying to be relation converstion. That's crazy. My articulation

2749
03:03:04,640 --> 03:03:07,360
Speaker 1: was not articulation. So when I look back at it,

2750
03:03:07,440 --> 03:03:14,400
Speaker 1: there's no one called me. When I looked at it,

2751
03:03:14,480 --> 03:03:15,880
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not what I am, That's not

2752
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:19,920
Speaker 1: what this show was about, and no way shape for

2753
03:03:20,040 --> 03:03:22,480
Speaker 1: my past. Was then that I heard it was an

2754
03:03:22,520 --> 03:03:25,440
Speaker 1: alter the native that uh think that? And then and

2755
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:27,520
Speaker 1: me looking at fifty and how fifty you could look

2756
03:03:27,520 --> 03:03:30,480
Speaker 1: at it too, I'm looking like, okay, you know, as

2757
03:03:30,520 --> 03:03:32,080
Speaker 1: much as fifty has done in his life, for me

2758
03:03:32,200 --> 03:03:35,240
Speaker 1: to say that, I understand how he could have took

2759
03:03:35,280 --> 03:03:37,320
Speaker 1: that the wrong way. I gotta stand how Jacob took

2760
03:03:37,360 --> 03:03:38,720
Speaker 1: that the wrong way. I can understand how I am

2761
03:03:38,760 --> 03:03:42,120
Speaker 1: going took that. Even me using the ference the white boy,

2762
03:03:42,400 --> 03:03:44,040
Speaker 1: I just didn't like that. I looked at it and

2763
03:03:44,120 --> 03:03:46,280
Speaker 1: I crin. You know, some of my closest friends are

2764
03:03:46,360 --> 03:03:48,720
Speaker 1: right and I just didn't like the way I said it.

2765
03:03:49,040 --> 03:03:52,280
Speaker 1: So for anybody who saw this footage, and you can

2766
03:03:52,400 --> 03:03:55,039
Speaker 1: clearly see I'm slappy, but that's not that's not the excuse.

2767
03:03:55,120 --> 03:03:57,760
Speaker 1: I do this for a living. So this was my fault.

2768
03:03:58,320 --> 03:04:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm clearly was in the wrong. I clearly the way

2769
03:04:00,200 --> 03:04:02,920
Speaker 1: I worded things, and clearly saying certain certain things that

2770
03:04:02,959 --> 03:04:05,320
Speaker 1: I might be mining set period. I would like to

2771
03:04:05,440 --> 03:04:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking about the Snoop episode. A Snoop episode,

2772
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:11,720
Speaker 1: you should say you did drink before the episode hopefull

2773
03:04:12,240 --> 03:04:14,600
Speaker 1: all the way to the West coast y. And that's so.

2774
03:04:15,000 --> 03:04:17,400
Speaker 1: And there's only two episodes in this whole time that

2775
03:04:17,520 --> 03:04:20,160
Speaker 1: I've looked at and I've cringed, and I'm gonna tell

2776
03:04:20,160 --> 03:04:21,760
Speaker 1: you the other episode. You know, don't look at them.

2777
03:04:21,800 --> 03:04:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't look at none of these episodes. I gotta

2778
03:04:24,680 --> 03:04:28,280
Speaker 1: beat nuts. That's not a beat Nuts episode. Beat Nuts

2779
03:04:28,320 --> 03:04:30,920
Speaker 1: deserves to come back. Nuts to drink. They need a

2780
03:04:31,000 --> 03:04:33,480
Speaker 1: real drink chance because that and I try to stop

2781
03:04:33,520 --> 03:04:35,400
Speaker 1: that drink chance and you're drunk as won't let me

2782
03:04:35,440 --> 03:04:42,400
Speaker 1: stop it. Damn now, everyone everyone on everyone else want

2783
03:04:42,440 --> 03:04:50,040
Speaker 1: to say, no, you bull I don't take something anything. Yeah, said,

2784
03:04:50,520 --> 03:04:53,360
Speaker 1: so you know again and again that you know I'm

2785
03:04:53,440 --> 03:04:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with real, big names and real so there

2786
03:04:56,280 --> 03:05:01,199
Speaker 1: were so many you know, uh, you know, different opinion.

2787
03:05:01,280 --> 03:05:04,000
Speaker 1: Don't pick yourself up. I just want to straighten now.

2788
03:05:04,200 --> 03:05:05,920
Speaker 1: I just want to straighten now. Now, let's just let's

2789
03:05:05,959 --> 03:05:09,720
Speaker 1: be clear. I want to get this one story straight. Now.

2790
03:05:10,240 --> 03:05:12,920
Speaker 1: Justin timber Lake might be mad at me for this, okay, don't.

2791
03:05:13,280 --> 03:05:17,000
Speaker 1: This is another one of those times Parrell came on here,

2792
03:05:17,280 --> 03:05:19,840
Speaker 1: sat on the same chier you got, and Parrell said

2793
03:05:19,879 --> 03:05:22,760
Speaker 1: he stopped He had stopped working with Justin timber Lake

2794
03:05:22,959 --> 03:05:25,200
Speaker 1: because at the time just Timberlake was on job. You

2795
03:05:25,280 --> 03:05:29,520
Speaker 1: guys have beef a job, and respectfully, he didn't want

2796
03:05:29,560 --> 03:05:35,320
Speaker 1: to continue that relationship. I dropped it for episode. Two

2797
03:05:35,400 --> 03:05:39,000
Speaker 1: weeks later, I've seen Justin Timberlake in Carbones to the

2798
03:05:39,040 --> 03:05:42,520
Speaker 1: Timberlake comes up to me. He taps me on whether

2799
03:05:42,520 --> 03:05:46,760
Speaker 1: I believe it's my shoulder or or might have been.

2800
03:05:46,840 --> 03:05:48,600
Speaker 1: He might give me a little over. He gave me

2801
03:05:48,640 --> 03:05:51,880
Speaker 1: any times you might, he said. He said that that

2802
03:05:52,720 --> 03:05:56,760
Speaker 1: that story is not exactly true. So I go, okay,

2803
03:05:57,480 --> 03:06:00,920
Speaker 1: and I come on here and I'll say exactly what

2804
03:06:01,000 --> 03:06:03,720
Speaker 1: he says to me, the story is not exactly true.

2805
03:06:03,840 --> 03:06:08,400
Speaker 1: And then because great he was to say that. So

2806
03:06:08,600 --> 03:06:13,040
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. Yeah, because you guys

2807
03:06:13,120 --> 03:06:19,680
Speaker 1: had a great relationship, uh, to my Pharrell, Justine, everybody, everybody.

2808
03:06:19,760 --> 03:06:22,440
Speaker 1: And then this, this discrepancy happens with Job. What was

2809
03:06:22,480 --> 03:06:24,840
Speaker 1: your stance on that? Yes, as far as as far

2810
03:06:24,920 --> 03:06:29,119
Speaker 1: as I knew, Um, as far as I knew, Pharrell

2811
03:06:30,480 --> 03:06:34,600
Speaker 1: the Neptunes did not work on that album and Justin

2812
03:06:34,680 --> 03:06:39,760
Speaker 1: had to go work with Tim on that. Yes, because um,

2813
03:06:41,160 --> 03:06:43,440
Speaker 1: because Job would not let the clips out of their deal.

2814
03:06:44,240 --> 03:06:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't know any other story. I mean I wouldn't

2815
03:06:46,280 --> 03:06:50,880
Speaker 1: even what possibly would be the story. I mean, what

2816
03:06:51,520 --> 03:06:54,640
Speaker 1: what what? What? What? What? What? Was untrue? But oh,

2817
03:06:54,680 --> 03:06:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I never got you never explained. I

2818
03:06:56,720 --> 03:07:00,200
Speaker 1: thought you could know it was true. But it's true

2819
03:07:00,240 --> 03:07:02,280
Speaker 1: that Pharrell did not want to work on the album

2820
03:07:02,360 --> 03:07:04,880
Speaker 1: because of well yeah, I mean no, no, it was like, no,

2821
03:07:06,400 --> 03:07:10,000
Speaker 1: Pharrell wanted to work on the album. He did not

2822
03:07:10,240 --> 03:07:12,160
Speaker 1: work on it. He chose not to work on the

2823
03:07:12,240 --> 03:07:15,320
Speaker 1: album because you know, he felt like Job was holding

2824
03:07:15,400 --> 03:07:18,400
Speaker 1: us hostage and he felt like he had done a

2825
03:07:18,560 --> 03:07:23,560
Speaker 1: lot for He's done a lot for job. Yeah, for

2826
03:07:23,879 --> 03:07:28,200
Speaker 1: for them not to you know, give him what he

2827
03:07:28,320 --> 03:07:31,480
Speaker 1: felt was his group back. I mean, that's your theoretical question.

2828
03:07:32,200 --> 03:07:34,880
Speaker 1: He has his bills, You have your bills. What happened

2829
03:07:34,879 --> 03:07:37,240
Speaker 1: if Farrell would have done that? And I would have

2830
03:07:37,320 --> 03:07:40,760
Speaker 1: done what if Crime River was Farrell but production as

2831
03:07:40,760 --> 03:07:43,360
Speaker 1: opposed to Diminlin production, and you guys was in what

2832
03:07:43,959 --> 03:07:46,520
Speaker 1: we call purgatory somewhat. Would you would have took it

2833
03:07:46,560 --> 03:07:49,360
Speaker 1: personal with Forrell? Or you would have because you didn't

2834
03:07:49,400 --> 03:07:52,640
Speaker 1: take it personal? No, no, you know what and I didn't.

2835
03:07:53,600 --> 03:07:56,640
Speaker 1: That was it wasn't even like it was a thing. No,

2836
03:07:56,800 --> 03:07:58,680
Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't have taken a personal number one,

2837
03:07:59,280 --> 03:08:04,600
Speaker 1: but that was that was that was for real on

2838
03:08:06,600 --> 03:08:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that lord, So so you know you want to

2839
03:08:10,440 --> 03:08:13,680
Speaker 1: so you understand why I'd be like, you know, I

2840
03:08:13,800 --> 03:08:17,160
Speaker 1: can look twice when when it don't feel like that,

2841
03:08:17,600 --> 03:08:19,800
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So like

2842
03:08:19,959 --> 03:08:23,080
Speaker 1: because he's been consistent for sure, like he listened, he

2843
03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:25,520
Speaker 1: really he stood on that too, and that would have

2844
03:08:25,600 --> 03:08:28,120
Speaker 1: been a big record for I feel like everything the

2845
03:08:28,200 --> 03:08:31,920
Speaker 1: Neptunes did was big for everybody who was affiliated, meaning us,

2846
03:08:32,240 --> 03:08:34,520
Speaker 1: And let's just keep it real. That's probably turned out

2847
03:08:34,600 --> 03:08:40,080
Speaker 1: millions of dollars to stand by, I'm just calculated on

2848
03:08:40,200 --> 03:08:42,320
Speaker 1: tow of millions of dollars. I don't feel for No,

2849
03:08:42,840 --> 03:08:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't feel because they lost a couple of bucks.

2850
03:08:45,080 --> 03:08:48,119
Speaker 1: You don't feel for millions and millions. He got tweeny.

2851
03:08:48,240 --> 03:08:57,000
Speaker 1: But I was just sitting here and what I'm saying right, well,

2852
03:08:57,080 --> 03:09:01,600
Speaker 1: he did that again. He did it again. Something hell

2853
03:09:01,800 --> 03:09:04,680
Speaker 1: you with Justin? Um y'all worked it out after no, no, no, no,

2854
03:09:04,840 --> 03:09:07,960
Speaker 1: we there There was never no issue like it was

2855
03:09:08,240 --> 03:09:13,080
Speaker 1: literally I didn't I don't even think Pharrell and Justin

2856
03:09:13,200 --> 03:09:17,320
Speaker 1: had an issue. It was just it was label ship

2857
03:09:17,440 --> 03:09:20,760
Speaker 1: was the head of the label and Pharrell, but I

2858
03:09:20,800 --> 03:09:23,160
Speaker 1: didn't think it was a thing. And then then listen

2859
03:09:23,200 --> 03:09:27,240
Speaker 1: and even since then, even since then, that was that

2860
03:09:27,360 --> 03:09:29,120
Speaker 1: was Verry White at the time. Since then, it's like

2861
03:09:29,240 --> 03:09:33,160
Speaker 1: all it's all cool, like it's all up honestly, Like

2862
03:09:33,680 --> 03:09:36,760
Speaker 1: I see Barry. I talked to Barry. Everything is fine.

2863
03:09:37,840 --> 03:09:40,440
Speaker 1: And it was business too, like you know, like the

2864
03:09:40,480 --> 03:09:42,680
Speaker 1: same way I can see and speak about lawyers and

2865
03:09:42,760 --> 03:09:45,760
Speaker 1: contract everybody. I gotta you know, I eat that too

2866
03:09:46,480 --> 03:09:52,440
Speaker 1: for sure. For sure. Who go against who neptunes to

2867
03:09:52,480 --> 03:10:01,160
Speaker 1: go against and versus oh, everybody, they go against everybody, Yeah, everybody.

2868
03:10:03,879 --> 03:10:07,400
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna he's gonna win against Scott.

2869
03:10:08,640 --> 03:10:12,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna win against Scott. No, they're gonna win against Scott,

2870
03:10:13,600 --> 03:10:19,360
Speaker 1: he says the only person. Neptunes versus Vetrol woman. No,

2871
03:10:20,680 --> 03:10:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I mean, I think, I

2872
03:10:23,240 --> 03:10:25,520
Speaker 1: mean I would if I'm if we're gonna talk with Neptunes,

2873
03:10:25,560 --> 03:10:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just stay with Legacy, you know what I'm saying.

2874
03:10:29,040 --> 03:10:34,720
Speaker 1: Like timber Damn, right, I think Neptunes and Timberland would

2875
03:10:34,720 --> 03:10:38,160
Speaker 1: be awesome. That's gonna be fire. I think so too,

2876
03:10:38,480 --> 03:10:44,000
Speaker 1: that'd be fire. Yeah, okay, well listen, I'm gonna tell you.

2877
03:10:44,360 --> 03:10:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and this, of course it doesn't matter, but um,

2878
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Speaker 1: it don't matter. But there was one time I believe

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Speaker 1: the Neptunes on fort of the charts and Timberland on

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03:10:59,280 --> 03:11:02,440
Speaker 1: the other for they you know, something close within that

2881
03:11:02,760 --> 03:11:07,720
Speaker 1: range exactly. So I mean, I don't know if I

2882
03:11:07,800 --> 03:11:09,320
Speaker 1: don't know if they win, I mean, I don't know

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03:11:09,360 --> 03:11:14,000
Speaker 1: who would necessarily win, because it's not all about hits.

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03:11:14,200 --> 03:11:17,400
Speaker 1: If you notice that, it ain't about it's about cultural moments.

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03:11:18,280 --> 03:11:21,120
Speaker 1: So um, you know, I think that'd be good. I

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03:11:21,160 --> 03:11:27,200
Speaker 1: mean it'd be good Timberland against that'd be great. But

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03:11:27,280 --> 03:11:30,080
Speaker 1: I think they can go against any then. I don't

2888
03:11:30,120 --> 03:11:39,080
Speaker 1: believe they're getting blown out by nobody. Blown out. No, no, no, no,

2889
03:11:39,200 --> 03:11:42,160
Speaker 1: They're not getting blown out by nobody. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fight. It's gonna be a fight with all of

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03:11:43,640 --> 03:11:48,480
Speaker 1: the best you want to name whoever. Yeah, yeah, I

2892
03:11:48,480 --> 03:11:50,080
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think there's a lot of people.

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03:11:51,080 --> 03:11:54,440
Speaker 1: Hell no, not you made the Prix. Sorry I heard

2894
03:11:54,480 --> 03:12:00,280
Speaker 1: this speak of ice cream is great? Um ship. I

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03:12:00,320 --> 03:12:02,480
Speaker 1: mean Jamaine Hill too, though, Like it's like he got

2896
03:12:02,560 --> 03:12:08,920
Speaker 1: a lot he catalog, But I don't know if the catalog.

2897
03:12:09,320 --> 03:12:12,480
Speaker 1: You know again, it's hits. It's hiss, hiss his not

2898
03:12:12,640 --> 03:12:15,720
Speaker 1: all them ships be cultural. You know what I'm saying.

2899
03:12:16,920 --> 03:12:19,160
Speaker 1: You've seen that ship like you've seen it. You've seen

2900
03:12:19,480 --> 03:12:25,760
Speaker 1: Kiss mix tape you down beat you down like you

2901
03:12:25,879 --> 03:12:29,400
Speaker 1: know that ain't billboard nothing, don't talk no charts millions.

2902
03:12:30,080 --> 03:12:32,560
Speaker 1: You could have put any million selling record against Kiss

2903
03:12:32,600 --> 03:12:35,480
Speaker 1: whenever you wanted to. When he did, who shot your freestyle?

2904
03:12:36,320 --> 03:12:40,800
Speaker 1: Call case closed? Curtains is over? So you know, if

2905
03:12:40,879 --> 03:12:43,240
Speaker 1: if you gotta look at you gotta look at versus

2906
03:12:43,440 --> 03:12:48,040
Speaker 1: really like that, Like versus is way more cultural than

2907
03:12:48,120 --> 03:12:51,840
Speaker 1: it is hits. To me, your battle to cay on versus,

2908
03:12:52,400 --> 03:13:00,320
Speaker 1: who would I want? I'm not doing it. Let's just

2909
03:13:00,840 --> 03:13:09,560
Speaker 1: just what I did about Kanye shut and I heard

2910
03:13:09,600 --> 03:13:20,680
Speaker 1: that's crazy too, crazy live stepping there. He's still mad

2911
03:13:20,720 --> 03:13:23,040
Speaker 1: at that Kanye. So he's stepping in all the way up.

2912
03:13:24,240 --> 03:13:28,520
Speaker 1: Every verse tis right now. I'm just telling you it's

2913
03:13:28,640 --> 03:13:33,720
Speaker 1: a million percent. He's gonna make sure you, like I

2914
03:13:33,879 --> 03:13:38,720
Speaker 1: respect that, YO, push your man. Let me just say something, man,

2915
03:13:38,800 --> 03:13:42,840
Speaker 1: you're definitely a legend. Thank you a person. I appreciate

2916
03:13:42,920 --> 03:13:46,920
Speaker 1: your person. Um, you know, you're a real person. You're

2917
03:13:46,920 --> 03:13:51,120
Speaker 1: a good person. But besides all that, um, that's a

2918
03:13:51,440 --> 03:13:55,280
Speaker 1: personal level. But you are one of the last of

2919
03:13:55,400 --> 03:13:58,240
Speaker 1: a dying breed, one of the last people that I know.

2920
03:13:58,320 --> 03:14:00,760
Speaker 1: You said that it doesn't matter about the beat, but

2921
03:14:01,000 --> 03:14:05,400
Speaker 1: it's it's for people like you and like nas. It's

2922
03:14:05,440 --> 03:14:08,880
Speaker 1: like it's always like sixties sevent of your lyrics first,

2923
03:14:09,400 --> 03:14:12,640
Speaker 1: because your lyrics, it's just it's just something that where

2924
03:14:12,760 --> 03:14:14,880
Speaker 1: we want to hear what you're gonna say first, then

2925
03:14:15,000 --> 03:14:17,120
Speaker 1: we say, okay to be this dope too. You know

2926
03:14:17,160 --> 03:14:19,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and for you to you know what

2927
03:14:19,360 --> 03:14:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean, because they called they they call that dinosaurs

2928
03:14:24,080 --> 03:14:26,320
Speaker 1: they called and for us to be but I'd say,

2929
03:14:26,400 --> 03:14:33,080
Speaker 1: you're inspiring a new breed, to be honest. They want

2930
03:14:33,120 --> 03:14:37,400
Speaker 1: to say, you know, yeah, but bro, that's that, that

2931
03:14:37,680 --> 03:14:41,000
Speaker 1: is the that is the foundation of this ship. This,

2932
03:14:41,800 --> 03:14:46,480
Speaker 1: this takes, this takes a skill set. Then can't nobody

2933
03:14:46,600 --> 03:14:49,280
Speaker 1: take that from me. I don't care how young, how old,

2934
03:14:49,600 --> 03:14:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm smoking everything until I'm tied, when I stopped competing

2935
03:14:54,720 --> 03:14:57,800
Speaker 1: and I've done, I'm cool. I ain't gonna just exist

2936
03:14:57,879 --> 03:15:01,800
Speaker 1: in this ship either. You know what I'm saying. But nah, bro, yeah,

2937
03:15:01,840 --> 03:15:03,440
Speaker 1: so so let me just keep you with your flowers.

2938
03:15:03,520 --> 03:15:05,400
Speaker 1: So I don't letting you know, man, we're proud of you.

2939
03:15:05,480 --> 03:15:08,400
Speaker 1: On this side of generation are people the people that

2940
03:15:08,600 --> 03:15:11,920
Speaker 1: really respect real hip hop, really respect you know, the

2941
03:15:12,080 --> 03:15:15,640
Speaker 1: content and and and I think about his twelve records

2942
03:15:16,879 --> 03:15:20,200
Speaker 1: these albums is ninety records right now now by me,

2943
03:15:21,320 --> 03:15:26,600
Speaker 1: you just all classic albums were ten twelve, I think

2944
03:15:26,640 --> 03:15:30,680
Speaker 1: it was eight or something like that. Not like so

2945
03:15:31,840 --> 03:15:34,440
Speaker 1: you even did it that right? Like short and sweet,

2946
03:15:34,480 --> 03:15:38,480
Speaker 1: look straight, look, everything is is dope. We respect you

2947
03:15:38,600 --> 03:15:41,199
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We want to thank you to your phrase,

2948
03:15:41,240 --> 03:15:43,200
Speaker 1: to give your flowers to your face, you know what

2949
03:15:43,280 --> 03:15:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean. And we got a number love for you

2950
03:15:48,879 --> 03:15:50,840
Speaker 1: before we get about here. Anything you want to say,

2951
03:15:50,920 --> 03:15:54,720
Speaker 1: anything you got coming on and um you know, just

2952
03:15:54,920 --> 03:15:59,119
Speaker 1: everybody go get that album is almost dry. I appreciate

2953
03:15:59,240 --> 03:16:03,880
Speaker 1: all the loving sport, um man, it's almost dry. Tour

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Speaker 1: starting May twenty nine. Come check me out all over

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Speaker 1: the country, um man, all the festivals. I'm gonna be there,

2956
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Speaker 1: coming to a city near you. Street hip hop list forever,

2957
03:16:18,160 --> 03:16:25,680
Speaker 1: sniff goddam. I listen to ask questions, how do you

2958
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Speaker 1: get on the bliss of YAO list? I want to

2959
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Speaker 1: be on the because listen, listen on just they just

2960
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Speaker 1: just invited me to the show and say they're gonna

2961
03:16:42,360 --> 03:16:45,039
Speaker 1: dress me and all that. So if we're the same size,

2962
03:16:45,080 --> 03:16:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you a little just today, like I'm

2963
03:16:56,879 --> 03:17:00,080
Speaker 1: trying to keep up. I'm like, I ain't biging in me.

2964
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, mysing, but I need I need to

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Speaker 1: Listen all here listen. I'm like it's the number of

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Speaker 1: podcast you know that girl and let me see it.

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Speaker 1: Talk camera, talking cameras. Let me just tell you something. No, no, no,

2969
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Speaker 1: I want this camera. I want to I don't let

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Speaker 1: me as a side. Let me tell you something. Are

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Speaker 1: you seeing your friends and family um list? It's full

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Speaker 1: of franks. You don't want Frank's and you're fully your

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Speaker 1: friends and family list. This is a good guy over here.

2974
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Speaker 1: I'm a great guy. I need the easy, I need

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Speaker 1: to put your DS, I need to to stand Smith's

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Speaker 1: and I need um um, the phararelse, Holy mode, guacamole.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for joining us for another episode to

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