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Speaker 1: it happen. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Thinking

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Speaker 1: Today's episode was recommended by Colton, So thanks Colton. Yeah, guy, guy, buddy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we are going to talk about Operation high Jump

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Speaker 1: and the many weird conspiracy mysteries that surround it. By

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Speaker 1: mysteries put together. There's a lot of weird stuff going

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Speaker 1: on here, It's true. Including me. You were likely that's

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Speaker 1: nothing weird about you, weird sight. I totally dropped the ball. Now, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're likely unfamiliar with Operation high Jump, which was officially

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Speaker 1: called the United States Navy Antarctic Developments Program nineteen nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty six to nineteen seven, and rightfully so, because why

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Speaker 1: would you know about this? Operation High Jump was one

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Speaker 1: of twenty eight expedition SANS made to Antarctica, which is

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Speaker 1: the South Pole for you people who don't know what

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Speaker 1: that graphically confused. Yeah, five of these twenty eight were

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Speaker 1: taken on by the United States. Unsurprisingly, Brittain holds the

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Speaker 1: they visited Antarctica eleven times, and visits are still happening.

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Speaker 1: These are just these like grand expeditions. Yeah, these expeditions

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Speaker 1: and discovery. Yeah, yeah, there actually were a lot of

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Speaker 1: the Argentines, for example, have been have been sort of

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Speaker 1: This specific expedition took place, If you were paying attention,

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Speaker 1: you may already know, took place from nineteen forty six

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Speaker 1: six submissions of this mission expedition up the primary mission

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Speaker 1: don't remember Roman numeral. It was like Ivy IVY Little

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Speaker 1: base of operations for our primary expedition goal. I really

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching a Leslie Nielsen movie. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah. Anyway. The submissions, not to be confused

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Speaker 1: to the three Determining the feasibility of establishing, maintaining, and

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Speaker 1: The fifth submission was amplifying existing stores of knowledge of electromagnetic, geographic, geological,

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Speaker 1: I don't know not. Operation High Jump was organized officially

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Speaker 1: was always contesting if it took a hundred people. It's

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Speaker 1: make a road and then they've got the big the

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Speaker 1: big steamroller job that goes across it had one of

425
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Speaker 1: those to pack the ice to make runways. He was

426
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: like Wiley, a coyote on many occasions sucked under the wheel.

427
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Speaker 1: So it's actually interesting. I've read two different accounts of

428
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Speaker 1: how he died. Both of them are horrific. There was

429
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Speaker 1: that one, and then there was another one where they

430
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Speaker 1: were using a fork, like a giant forklift to unload

431
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Speaker 1: some of these other big pieces of machinery and he

432
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Speaker 1: just happened to be in the way, so he got crushed.

433
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: They like put down the tractor on top of it there, Yeah,

434
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: which is also really rough whenever there's unloading a big things.

435
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm far away. Yeah, me too, as far aways possible.

436
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: The worst move I was gonna say. They're like, Devon,

437
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: come help, and I'm like i can't my back. Sorry,

438
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: I'll take some pizza. The four men die and then

439
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: then what happens? Yeah, but they were called in February.

440
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: So where does that leave us? Great question, Steve, Yeah, no,

441
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Speaker 1: I mean, so the thing is is like these four

442
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 1: men died, but that wasn't the reason that they were

443
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Speaker 1: called back. They were called back because the weather was bad.

444
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Speaker 1: That was an acceptable amount of casualty s apparently, or

445
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, actually a much higher number would have been acceptable.

446
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there there are numbers about that. But out

447
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: of four deaths, say you know, I mean, but especially

448
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Speaker 1: in a hostile, dangerous environment like Antarctica, is it's kind

449
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Speaker 1: of to be expected that at least a few people

450
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: are going to die. Yeah, I mean, but that's the

451
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: thing is, like we don't really know what happened down there.

452
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: They were supposed to be building this base and they

453
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: were kind of paving away for an airway, but that

454
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: kind of didn't really pan out. And then they were

455
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be like training on combat, but a lot

456
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: of the ships were there for like two weeks, so

457
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of training

458
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Speaker 1: you can do in two weeks, but it seems like

459
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: not a lot of stuff happened, which is kind of weird. Well,

460
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think that they were probably doing stuff

461
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: like just testing their new their new toilets on sean

462
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Speaker 1: board the ships, just to make sure that they truly

463
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Speaker 1: didn't freeze up like they were supposed to not do. Yeah.

464
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: Probably that's why it was stuff like that, checking the plumbing. Yeah, well,

465
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Speaker 1: I mean that is making sure the heaters worked. That

466
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Speaker 1: was one of the stated missions, was just to see

467
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Speaker 1: how well some of the gear and stuff held up

468
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Speaker 1: in those kind of conditions. And so I guess a

469
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: month is long enough to do that. Yeah, I mean,

470
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Speaker 1: I guess that's true. Yeah. Um Bird gave an interview

471
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Speaker 1: in March of that year. Admiral Bird retired, gave an

472
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Speaker 1: interview in March off on his return. I think he

473
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: was in Argentina. I can't remember, to be honest with you,

474
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Speaker 1: what I think it was South America, somewhere in I

475
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: was I was taking Oh, yeah, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah,

476
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: we're basically he it was this kind of weird interview,

477
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: and I don't know how accurate it is, but I'm

478
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: going to read part of it because it kind of

479
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: adds yeah, and it adds to the intrigue. Actually, Joe,

480
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: do you want to read This'll put on my admiral voice. Yeah,

481
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: I just I'll just give the whole thing here. Admiral

482
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Richard E. Bird Warren today that the United States that

483
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: measures of protection against the possibility of an invasion of

484
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: the country by hostile planes coming from the polar regions.

485
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: The admiral explained that he was not trying to scare anyone,

486
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: but the cruel reality is that in case of a

487
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: new war, the United States could be attacked by planes

488
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: flying over one or both Poles. This statement was made

489
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: as part of a recapitulation of his own polar experience

490
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: in an exclusive interview with International News Service, talking about

491
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: that recently completed expedition, Birds said that the most important

492
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: result of his observations and discoveries is the potential the

493
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: fact that they have in relation to the security of

494
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: the United States. The fantastic speed with which the world

495
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: is shrinking, recalled the Admiral is one of the most

496
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: important lessons learned during his recent Antarctic exploration. I have

497
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Speaker 1: to warn my compatriots that the time has ended when

498
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: we were able to take refuge in our isolation and

499
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: rely on the certainty that the distances the oceans and

500
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: the poles were a guarantee of safety. So that leaves

501
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people questioning, well, yeah, especially I mean

502
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I can totally see actually flying over the poles. I mean,

503
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: actually he was a little bit prescient because of course,

504
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: now what we're looking, We're always watching. We're always watching

505
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: for those those i CBMs come come flying over the

506
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: pole from the pole from Russia. I'm not so sure

507
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: about the South Pole, Ya, Russia or anybody else. Frankly,

508
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: even if Australia wanted to attack US, I think there's

509
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: better ways than flying over the South Pole to get

510
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: to US. Yeah, I was gonna say the other things

511
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: that a lot of people read, and and much as

512
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: you have stated, I always took this, at least initially,

513
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I took it the way you said, like flying over

514
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: the poles, coming from somewhere, going over the pole and

515
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: hitting us. But he could have also meant something akin

516
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: to what we were trying to do, which is someone

517
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: establishes a base, so they're flying from the pole, so

518
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: it's it's technically it's kind of over the pole to us,

519
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: but that's that cuts down the distance required greatly. But yeah,

520
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about, like, if you think about the situation then,

521
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: because the Cold War is starting where we're looking at

522
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: prop potentially catastrophic war with the Soviet Union, and think

523
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: about you know that with all these planes and everything

524
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: they have left over from World War Two, if they

525
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: wanted to say, fly up to the North Pole, established

526
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: temporary basis for supplies of fuel, etcetera, and just refuel

527
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: their planes. They're all their bombers and stuff for an

528
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: invasion of the US. You know, that's that's entirely a

529
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: feasible thing. Well, and they would have to have some

530
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: sort of base of operations because I actually looked into

531
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: this is that bombers of you know, large caliber planes

532
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: like that that are able to carry that kind of

533
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: equipment had a range of about two to three thousand miles,

534
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: so they would have had to have started. They couldn't

535
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: have made the trip in one feld. So yeah, that's

536
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: why I say, just established temporary basis where they can stop, refuel.

537
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: Everybody goes to the bathroom and then serious. And I

538
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: still wonder about those guys like you know, like flying

539
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: those those long missions and like F you know F

540
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: fifteen s and B two bombers and all that stuff.

541
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you guys do? There was a bucket?

542
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I've I've read accounts there

543
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: was a bucket. God help you. If there was turbulence

544
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: and the buckets spilled and you were the low man

545
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: on the totem pole, you had to clean the bucket. Yeah,

546
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking more of the guys that are like sitting

547
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: in there, like I say, an SR seventy one, where

548
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: you're in a titlett com cockpit. You can't stand up

549
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: and walk back to the bucket and urinated. No, that's

550
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: a diaper situation. I guess a diaper or maybe a

551
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: coffee can they give you a coffee? Can you? Guys?

552
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you guys are treading. Yeah, you're

553
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: treading into theories category. Actually yes week, next week our mystery.

554
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: What are those guys do? Yeah? Um no, But I

555
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: mean there there are some questions, you know, the stuff

556
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: about flying over the poles, especially in the South Pole,

557
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that in a second.

558
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: But I do you know when one of the questions,

559
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: right is like why would why did they call this

560
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: high jump? Like they're going to the most southern point

561
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: of the world and calling it high jump? Actually why? Yeah,

562
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: And that's suspicious. But I can answer that question. I'm

563
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: sure you can. Can Can you do it in theories? Yeah? Yeah? Great? Perfect.

564
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: So bird you may remember I said he didn't show

565
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: up until like way late. He showed up on January,

566
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: and the evacuation orders were sent in like the middle

567
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: of February. So that's the way I would do it.

568
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: If I was going to well, I would do it too.

569
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of efforts to put into

570
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: basically what was like a month of photographs, because that

571
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: was really the only takeaway that that happened from this mission,

572
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: and they did take about seventy photographs, about half of

573
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: which was selfies, you know, but most of them were

574
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: useless because there was no ground control on any of them.

575
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: And what that means for people who don't know is

576
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: is you fly in a grid pattern so that you

577
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: can line things up, and they didn't do that. You

578
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: just kind of flew around and took some pictures. They

579
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: had white stuff together. Yeah, yeah, this is what's white. Hey,

580
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: it goes with the rank next to it, which is

581
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of ad I don't know why they didn't have

582
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: some sort of more disciplined effort for that. They should have,

583
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: But but that also raises questions for people, is like,

584
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: we are they doing something else? Maybe they're just flat

585
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: around like looking for you secret stuff, or were they

586
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: hiding something? Right, Maybe they did find something and they

587
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: were like, oh, what do you mean, we didn't take

588
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: any pictures of that grid part. Whoops. They just pull

589
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: them out and took the notes off of them totally.

590
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: So um, that is the question we're going to talk

591
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: about in theories is what was the real reason for

592
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: this operation? Absolutely, But before we do that, let's take

593
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: a break. Everyone always thinks that little green men or yes,

594
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: as Devin says, maybe they're gray are coming to Earth

595
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,520
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Speaker 1: You're gonna talk about some theories, yeah, because like chomping

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Speaker 1: at to talk about what I just told him that

628
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Speaker 1: he had to wait about to talk about. So it's

629
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Speaker 1: theory number one. Theory number one is that the Navy

630
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Speaker 1: did it for the reasons the Navy did it, they

631
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,320
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632
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633
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Speaker 1: War two, did they Yeah, we get to write the

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635
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Speaker 1: wars that we've been involved in. Okay, uh um yeah,

636
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean we just assumed that the Navy is telling

637
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: the truth that they sent more than four thousand troops

638
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: too and several resources down to Antarctica to establish a

639
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: base for a month, to establish a base for a month,

640
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: to establish a base for a month, and do the

641
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: like ten other things they said they were going to um,

642
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: okay six whatever. I mean, you know, and there is

643
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: I know, this was the thing you want to talk about, right,

644
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: is like why Operation high Jump might have been called

645
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: Operation high Jump. Yeah, because there's been a lot of

646
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: suspicion about that. There has. Yeah, but this is on

647
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: the heels of World War two and the military, the

648
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: US military burned to all the operational names. They have

649
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: a huge list, and there's there's a whole office in

650
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: the Penticon that maintains this lip and they pretty much

651
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: burned through the entire thing. There are only a couple

652
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: of kind of crappy names left. Wait, wait, is their

653
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: list the equivalent to our not brought to you by list.

654
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, it's running out. That new petition change

655
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: dot org. Somebody make this um petition to make Team

656
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: Sideways the official namer of operations from now on. Yeah,

657
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: I think that'd be kind of cool. Yeah, they don't

658
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: have to tell us what they are. They can just

659
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: be like, we just need like a new name for

660
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: an operation, and we hug operation free Hug. That's about it.

661
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that that's not suspicious at all.

662
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: They just they were stuck with the lame name because

663
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: that was about all that was left over. I mean,

664
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: they did there was an operation that was fairly simultaneous,

665
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: which was Operation a Nook, right, which was also an

666
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: ice based one. Like why why didn't they call it

667
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: like Polar Bear Hug Operation Polar Bears. I'm stuck on

668
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: the hugs right now. Yeah, that's a good question. But yeah,

669
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: the nook kind of makes sense. Yeah, although that today

670
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: that would be probably cause cultural appropriation, so culturally insensitive appropriation.

671
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: And the thing is, though, I actually, to a degree,

672
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: this expedition being taken on at this time makes sense

673
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: when you actually again we've got to look back a

674
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: year or three to World War Two, and there is

675
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: that whole time when the Russians and the Germans are

676
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: going at it and men are Germans mostly are dying

677
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: in droves because they're freezing to death because they are

678
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: ill equipped and you're ill prepared for this kind of terrible,

679
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: terrible cold. And so in a way it's like, well,

680
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, we're there's some things, you know, Russian and

681
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Us we're kind of giving each other the stink. I

682
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: maybe we should just gain a little bit more information

683
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: just to make sure we don't get caught in action,

684
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean, when you're when you're out there

685
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: fighting in the snow and you're fringing rifle doesn't work,

686
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, what does that kind of and thanks your

687
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: jeep doesn't whatever. I mean. The thing the other thing

688
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: to think about, yes, is this is on the heels

689
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: of World War Two, and that will feed into some

690
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: of our other theories. But it's also on the beginning

691
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: of the Cold War, um, and you know, and it's cold, right,

692
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: but also like with Russia, right, And there's some saying

693
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: I think it might be in Russia. I don't know

694
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: really where it's from, but it's like, um, all all

695
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Russia has to do is make it to the winter

696
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: and then yeah maybe yeah, well so I don't know

697
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: if you know, like the better quote or whatever, but

698
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: basically it's basically that, yeah, all I Russia has to

699
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: do is get to the winter, and then Russia the

700
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: land mother Russia will fight the war itself, because every

701
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: every single time somebody has tried to invade Russia or

702
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: otherwise wage war, wage war on Russian land, they've just

703
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: died in the winter. And with the winter is like

704
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: the years too, I mean, and that was the French

705
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: under Napoleon, and Naves suffered badly. Everybody whould tries this. Yeah. Granted,

706
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: Napoleon I think tried to take like elephants, which maybe

707
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: not the right choice, but okay, listen, he had a

708
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: lot of issues trip, but no, so that's something to

709
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: bear in mind as well. Um, but let's go to

710
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: more fun theories theories. Um, this one's less still not

711
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: super fun, but still a little more fun. Um that

712
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: that the main, the main reason of it was actually

713
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: just to claim more land. And as we mentioned that,

714
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: I think it was listed that was a claim of

715
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: some sort. There wasn't specific a specific parcel of land. Yeah,

716
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: that was the submission number two that we listed before.

717
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: But again it has been publicly denied the entire time,

718
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: basically that that was actually a reason, which is weird

719
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: because like that was a one of the reasons we

720
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: wanted to get to get to the Moon first. Yeah,

721
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to claim it as ours. Yeah we well

722
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily we own the moon. We just a we

723
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: probably do, but we most especially didn't want anybody else

724
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: itt up there and stick of a claim to it.

725
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: We wanted the cheese, yeah, all the trees and whatever,

726
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: the cow that jumps over and all that stuff. Yeah.

727
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: My one of my favorite things is this like thought

728
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: process of what if like China or Russia went to

729
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: the Moon and went up and just like knocked our

730
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: flag over? What would you do? And I'm pretty sure

731
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: that America would spend the millions of dollars that it

732
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: would take to send another man to the moon. We

733
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: could do it for millions of dollars to have trillions

734
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: of however much money it would take. We would be

735
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: petty enough to send another man to the moon or woman,

736
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: another person to the moon to knock their flag over

737
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: and be like what the current yahoo would either do

738
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: that or go on a Twitter tirade one of the two. No, no, no,

739
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Like I am fully supportive of NASA doing that in

740
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: the instance that China or Russian goes for sure, we

741
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: should go back to the moon anyway, or at least

742
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: hire somebody like Stanley Kuber to fake it, fake it again. Yeah,

743
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: well Elon Musk is going so take it. Yeah, yeah,

744
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: al must Anyway, that was that was the long version

745
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: of the this extra theory is that also it was

746
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: for this theory or this mission that of course it

747
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: was we had to claim a little piece of land wine.

748
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Everybody else was running down there and stake of the claim.

749
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: And I've seen this take to take their claims kind

750
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: of seriously, like Norway or Argentina, which is the one, Yeah,

751
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: I think you have to have from the map. Well yeah,

752
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: it seems like but Argentina does. But a lot of

753
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: the other countries do too. Uh. They've sort of officially

754
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: declared that even because some of their claims kind of

755
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: overlap a bit, and so they officially declared that even

756
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: though their claim is the right one, they're not going

757
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: to make a huge stink over it. Smart decide. Everybody's

758
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: signed a treaty. So everybody's decided, Yeah we're right, but

759
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: we're just gonna like just not you know, shoot anybody

760
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: over it. Okay. So yeah, this next theory is that

761
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: it was a response to aliens or a battle over

762
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: a Nazi sanctuary. Yeah, this is really the UFO theory, right, Um,

763
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: it's a good one, actually, the secret Nazi base. Yeah,

764
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: so that is that's one of the big proponents are

765
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: one of the big parts of this theory is there

766
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: is a theory out there that there was a Nazi

767
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: base that was established on Antarctica, and that's where like

768
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, Hitler, because he didn't actually die, he was

769
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: he was taken down German shepherd Antarctica. Yeah, had a

770
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: German shepherd. He had a German shepherd that he loved, right, No,

771
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: I took her with him. He left it bron He

772
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: had a bullet hole in her head, I think, you know. Yeah, yeah,

773
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: So I mean that's it's a It is a big

774
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: theory that they had this thing down there and that

775
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: we knew about it, and so we sent a bunch

776
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: of naval ships down there to once and for all

777
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: obliterate the Nazis down there. I guess is the way

778
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: that that goes. Jerry basically that in this theory, it

779
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: was not storms that forced them to retreat. It was

780
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: UFOs again, either trustrial, either terrestrial or non terrestrial. That's right.

781
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Nazi UFOs or alien UFOs altogether in

782
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: one coherent theory. Yeah. Take that. No, I like it now.

783
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: It's entirely possible. I have some questions about that, but

784
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I'll wait till you get to the end of it. Okay,

785
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: So here are some other things that people present as evidence.

786
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: You might be able to hear my air quotes around

787
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: that evidence for this theory. Apparently some of the ships

788
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: were lost. Yeah, the US it was after the mission.

789
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: The USS Pine Island was struck from the Naval register

790
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: in an unknown date. Her title was transfer or to

791
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: Maritime Administration for layup at the National Defense Reserve Fleet.

792
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: She was actually re registered in Portland, Oregon. Do you

793
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: know where? Uh, yeah, right here in Portland, Oregon's yeah,

794
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: a stone So from where we sit right now. But

795
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, we are We're the product, were the

796
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: product probably, but yeah, but but I believe it was

797
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: given to Zydell just to be chopped up for Yeah,

798
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: it was actually well. I saw an aerial photos of

799
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: Zydell and huge acres and acres of land right next

800
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: to the Willam and they had like at least a

801
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: dozen Navy ships tied up there in the river, and

802
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: online acres and acres are just piles of scrap and

803
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: they had it all sorted out in the various things,

804
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: but just piles and piles of it. Really cool photo.

805
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I was supposed to have seen it

806
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: or not. It might have been classified, but people don't know.

807
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: Zidell was a scrappy, yeah, ship scrap yard mostly. Yeah.

808
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't think it's any coincidence that this

809
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: ship went down and participated in this and then and

810
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: then right after that or one of years after thirty

811
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: years after it was chopped up, you know and scrapped.

812
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was in two I think officially

813
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: they've done that to a number of ships, right, but

814
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: it was it was struck from the register before it disappeared, yeah,

815
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: and then it came back just to be scrapped. I

816
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: have no idea how that happens, but you know, I

817
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: mean it's a big meraucracy the Navy is, and I

818
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: imagine they misplaced ships all the time. Oh, I'm sure.

819
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you could have just called them up

820
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: and been like, hey, did you know that the uss

821
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: Pine Island was like missing from these dates on your

822
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: registry and they'd be like, oh, look at that, we'll

823
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: fix it. Cool. Thanks. Guy. You call him up and

824
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: you tell them that, and there's a scream and the

825
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: phone drops, hear them running away, and then pretty soon

826
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: they come. Somebody else goes decide, never mind, it's all okay,

827
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: take care of taking care of It's fine. What's your

828
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: thank you? We want to send you a thank you package?

829
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: What's your address? Where? What are you? Where are you located?

830
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Right now? Then in suits and sunglasses will be delivering

831
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: thank you. Another thing that people say to back up

832
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: their Nazi sanctuary a slash alien technology theory sanctuary. Yeah,

833
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's what it is. It's a retirement home

834
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: for Hitler. I'd call that a Nazi sanctuary. Nazi Hills,

835
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: Nazi Hills, Nazi Hills, Nazi Hills, the Nazi sanctuary in

836
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: Antarctica States anyway. Um, sorry, So apparently there's a claim

837
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: that Bird's remarks in the newspaper the one that Joe

838
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: read a couple of minutes ago was actually a bitter reality.

839
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: In the case of a new war, the continental US

840
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: would be attacked by flying objects which would fly from

841
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: poll to pull at incredible speeds, which leads these researchers

842
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: to believe that Bird himself was trying to warn people

843
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: about the UFOs he'd en counter down there without like

844
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: trying to trying to circumvent use that word, right, his

845
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: gag order from the Navy. Yeah, already just saw the

846
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: speed at which missile technology was moving and thought or

847
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: the one that Joe red was a good translation and

848
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: this one was a weird translation. I think the one

849
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: that I read was actually it wasn't actually a direct quote.

850
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: It was more like a summary of his remarks, and

851
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: it could have been misrepresented as the idea of things

852
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: coming over both poles. Maybe they met the North Pole,

853
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I mean, so the big

854
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: question here is like, why would the Nazis be hiding

855
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: down yonder because nobody else would go there, well except

856
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: for tons of people were going there all the time.

857
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: That's why they're on the moon. Yeah yeah, yeah, But

858
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: but a contest the size of Antarctica even if even

859
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: if hundreds of people go are there at any given time,

860
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: you're still pretty unlucky to run into them. True. Yeah,

861
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: and you know, as long as you put yourself kind

862
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: of as long as you use some white camo around

863
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: your base, you're probably good. On The question is how

864
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: do you feed them natural resources? Being snow and oh yeah, no,

865
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: the Nazis have absolutely perfected greenhouse technology. Of course they have,

866
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: right well, and maybe they don't need to because maybe

867
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: they actually have alien technology, because the other theory is Nazis.

868
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: You know, again, this isn't an r isn't an episode

869
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: about that necessarily, but we've talked a little bit around

870
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: the idea that the Nazis might have had like flying

871
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: saucer UFOs and also had some kind of weird technology

872
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: of you know, laser guns and stuff like that. I

873
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: think it would have won the war if they had

874
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but maybe, or just maybe the Nazis,

875
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: in creating their base in Antarctica encountered the Aliens, and

876
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: the Aliens were like, sure, you can have our technology.

877
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: You seem like good people. I don't know, uh so, yeah, basically,

878
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: what if the Nazis stumbled across the Aliens and their

879
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: secret base, and they blackmailed them. They said, you know,

880
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: if you want to skip your secret you know you will,

881
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: you will hand us your devastating weapons otherwise we'll rat

882
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: you out. And the ali said, oh you got us

883
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: good there, Okay, here you go, rather than just using

884
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: our deadly weapons to obliterate you. You know, there's there's

885
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: actually no rule. I mean, the Aliens might have some

886
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: fantastic technology, but that doesn't mean that they're actually not morons. Totally.

887
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: They totally could. I mean, if you look at there's

888
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people I see walking around today who

889
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: have the most fantastic technology in their hands, you know,

890
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: like an iPhone and their complete bone heads. Yeah, try

891
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: to explain to your like, you know, if you ever

892
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: somebody came from the past, from the fifties, like, try

893
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: to explain to them that you hold in your pocket

894
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: a device that could access every single bit of knowledge

895
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: that's ever been held in the entire world. They use

896
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: it to like look at cavidios, Like that's where we

897
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: use it for, right. Yeah. I have a question if

898
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: if so, this theory is saying that we there were

899
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: UFOs and either they were Nazi driven or they were

900
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: little green men driven okay, or grace the neutral ones.

901
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: So my question is why and and of course the

902
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: theory goes on to say that these little guys at

903
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: least obliterated at least one ship on the expedition by

904
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: you know, going pup pew and just blowing it out

905
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: of the water. Why are they not destroying any other boats?

906
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: Because maybe they're actually just scientific observers who were just

907
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: trying to protect their anonymity. You're saying they're shy. I'm

908
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: just saying there, maybe they're scientists who were just sent

909
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: to observe and the only reason they attacked was because

910
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: they were being attacked. And then once we left, they

911
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: were like great, cool they probably Yeah, that makes sense

912
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: to me. I'm sorry, I cannot defend this theory particularly well,

913
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of a dumb theory, but I like it

914
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: because it's fun. It's it's fun. The next two are dumb, Yeah,

915
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: we're they're real quick. Um. The next one is that

916
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: the Navy went down there to further protect the secret

917
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: of the Hollow Earth. How would they further protected, Well,

918
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, they circumvented the entire They're com navigated the

919
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: entirety of Antarctica. So they were really just securing the perimeter,

920
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: making sure that no one else was down there, and

921
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: then may and then like you know, putting somehow deterrence

922
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: of some kind. I don't know, bid electric sense maybe, Yeah,

923
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't really know what. I definitely don't want people

924
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: discovering that entrance because, yeah, a lot of a lot

925
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: of unclaimed real estate. And it's true or your own

926
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: plot alternately very claimed. There's two two groups of people

927
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: who may have claimed already the hollow Earth. One is Nazis,

928
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: because that's the other theory, right, is that Nazis are

929
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: actually living inside of the Hollow Earth. That was the entrance. Yeah,

930
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: that was the entrance, and the U. S. Navy was

931
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: really going there to be like, all right, you can

932
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: live down there, but don't come up. If I see

933
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: you step foot out the door. We're just telling them

934
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: they did just blast the whole shot. Yeah, it's possible

935
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: you're staying in there and enjoy yourself. But alternately, it

936
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: is where the lizard people who secret secretly run our lives.

937
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: That's it's where they live. That doesn't make any sense.

938
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: Lizards are cold blooded. I've never got that well, but

939
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: they live inside. That's just where the whole out to

940
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: the out of that would that would discourage them from

941
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: trying to come out here through the one of the

942
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: coldest areas of our planet. I'm sorry, we're not. Let's not.

943
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to entertain this too much. If your

944
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: lizard people, though, I mean, there's no reason you can't

945
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: have you know, parks places, all kinds of stuff like that,

946
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: thermal socks. They are shape shifters, you know. Yeah, well,

947
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: I mean that's what Hillary Clinton is. You go, right,

948
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: because it's a better theory, right somehow? Okay, great. The

949
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: next theory is that they were actually doing this to

950
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: part at the secret of the flat Earth, because for

951
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: some reason, that's a big conspiracy that like nobody everybody's

952
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: trying to trick the trying to trick all of the

953
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: like intellectuals, the like higher thinking beings people of our yeah,

954
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever, um trying to somehow trick them

955
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: into thinking that the world is a sphere because I

956
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: don't know why, I don't know who that benefits. I

957
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: don't understand this very much, and I don't know if

958
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: you guys have seen these maps lately, of the flat

959
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: Earth it is. Yeah. So the very center of the

960
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: of the what is it circle plate? Yeah, I guess

961
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: it's a plate. The very center, Yeah, the very center

962
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: of the plate is the North Pole, and then the

963
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: outer rim is Antarctica. And so they were really just

964
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: going to you know, further secure the perimeter and for

965
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: some reason keep it a secret. I think that I

966
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: don't understand the flat earth thing. Don't understand it. I'm sorry. Well, no,

967
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: actually I like it because um, well not really but

968
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: and the but the kind of tells you where it

969
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: came from though, because you know, the North Pole is

970
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: the center of the whole thing. So obviously the people

971
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: who invented it must live in the northern and then

972
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: they must yeah, obviously, Um, but no, I mean it's

973
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: it's it would be interesting because it calls all of

974
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: our physics, and it basically the question. It really does,

975
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: and and if our physics have been called in the

976
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: question that calls you know, the existence of things like

977
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs and laser beams and gravity and god knows

978
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: what else. Yeah, and since people depend on those those

979
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: those things, it's like it's like, for example, like for

980
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: example of paper currency, we all think a hundred dollar

981
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: bills worth something. It's because it is worth it is

982
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: worth nothing. What if people were to similarly to discover

983
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: that gravity doesn't exist, then poof, off we go to

984
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: the space. You know. That's how it works. If you

985
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: just stop leaving in a thing, it stops being real.

986
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: You're right, a stop believing in my bill collectors. For

987
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: years they kept coming around. I was gonna say, really,

988
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: the moral of the story is a hundred dollars means

989
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: nothing to you listeners, so send it to us. It's

990
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: really true that that that's it's not worth the papers prints. Yeah.

991
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this recently, but you

992
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: guys should go look at Neil de grass Tyson or

993
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: actually maybe it was Elon musk even who tweeted at

994
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: the Flat Earth Society and there he was like, why

995
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: is there no more Flat Mars Society? And they're like, well,

996
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: because that's been proven to be a sphere. Apparently the

997
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Earth is the only one that's flat. And I don't know,

998
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: I just don't understand it. I like the flat earthers,

999
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, why is that because of

1000
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: their MAXI isn't it? It's not just their moxie or anything.

1001
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: And I don't agree with I don't agree with everything

1002
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: to say. But what I like about them is there

1003
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: very civil about the whole thing. They you know, and

1004
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, you know, there's a lot

1005
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: of people that are very self righteous about the things

1006
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: that they believe. And if you post something they don't

1007
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: like on the Internet, they'll destroy you on Twitter, Facebook, whatever.

1008
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: They'll even try to get your fired from your job,

1009
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: destroy your business whatever. The flat earthers are, you know,

1010
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a model of civility. And that's why,

1011
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 1: even though I don't, I don't buy into their theories,

1012
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: I had to give them. I had to give them.

1013
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: I think flat earthers, in the Church of Satan, those

1014
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: are the two most civil people on the Internet, I think,

1015
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, I wish people would behave more like them,

1016
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: not necessarily what they believe in the flat earth, but yeah,

1017
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: it would be nice anyway. That's the end of our theories.

1018
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: The Yeah, I think that, you know. One of my

1019
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: one of my things is I really do think there

1020
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: was a good reason to go down there to just

1021
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, stick acclaim and test a bunch of stuff

1022
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: in the cold and It's also possible that this was

1023
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: right after World War Two and they were probably probably

1024
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: at some point they've just been transporting men back from

1025
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Europe and and you know, the Western Pacific and stuff,

1026
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, and huge teaming hordes. At some point, you know,

1027
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: somebody probably said, hey, you know, we can only absorb

1028
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,479
Speaker 1: are so many soldiers coming back all at once. Maybe

1029
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: it's just slow to slow it down just a little bit.

1030
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, and meantime, I gotta find something

1031
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: for these guys to do. So let's come up with

1032
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: some make work. You know, everybody said, make your proposals,

1033
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: and admiraalbers like, okay, let's take like, let's guys to

1034
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: the Other thing though, is that if they're going to

1035
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: if they if they are indeed testing things in frigid

1036
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: conditions to make sure they work, you can't take them

1037
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: north because that's putting you very close to an ally

1038
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: who is currently under great tension with you. You can't

1039
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: go to the North Pole because then it's construed as

1040
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: maybe you're trying to make a move on on the

1041
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Eastern block, so it's the only safe move or the

1042
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: safe place to go. That's yeah, that's another way to do,

1043
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: but also to the you know, Antarctica actually is land.

1044
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't know it. It's not covered with ice,

1045
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, where is just you know, and stuff like that.

1046
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I also kind of wonder if you know, the war ended,

1047
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: but it was kind of looking like there might be

1048
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: another war, and I you know, it almost kind of

1049
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: seems like instead of saying, all right, you guys can

1050
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: go home and start your lives, it just made more

1051
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: sense of like, yeah, make war, you know, just let's

1052
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: send them to do this thing. Let's go, let's go,

1053
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: just send them on you know, what is equivalent to

1054
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: a busy work paper. Just have fun with that. Yeah.

1055
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Speaker 1: The other thing too, is that bureaucracies have a tendency

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Speaker 1: to defend their turf. And it might have been the

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Speaker 1: Navy was just trying to come up with all kinds

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Speaker 1: of missions to justify a larger budget and justify not

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Speaker 1: chopping up all of its ships. They mean, they even

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Speaker 1: do that today and they and so that may have

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Speaker 1: been part of this too. So I think we can

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Speaker 1: all agree that this was just kind of like a

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Speaker 1: weird mission that the Navy did not not the UFOs.

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Speaker 1: It's actually not an unreasonable thing to do is send

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Speaker 1: a much of guys to Antarctica for you know, miscellaneous purposes.

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Speaker 1: Why not? I actually think that this might have accident

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Speaker 1: at least spawned another little submistery that I've seen floating

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Speaker 1: around on the internet. Why the heck did Thinking Sideways

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Speaker 1: do an episode on this because it's so small? Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's such a teeny tiny I'm sorry, meant that this episode. No.

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Speaker 1: The thing I'm thinking of, I cannot remember the name

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Speaker 1: of it. But there are these weird these images of

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Speaker 1: these weird objects over the ocean, and I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that they're basically balloons, you know, for target practices, but

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Speaker 1: they're odds shaped and so they don't move and regular patterns.

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Speaker 1: But there's these old photos of it. I bet that

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Speaker 1: that is one of the things that they were doing,

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Speaker 1: is going down there and not only looking around, but

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Speaker 1: you know, doing practice, target practice and stuff like that

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Speaker 1: in in windy crappy. I mean, if you want to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere's got a lot of wind, you go down there.

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Speaker 1: It's crappy conditions. That's good point, you know, and you

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Speaker 1: probably want to see if you they took some destroyers

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Speaker 1: that the destroyers have some fairly decent sized guns on something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they might want to see how the guns perform

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Speaker 1: when they're that kind of condition. How accurate are you

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Speaker 1: in this kind of weather? Yeah? How's your gunpowder hold

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Speaker 1: up in you know, sub zero below or something like that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad this is like the first time we've all

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Speaker 1: agreed on something, so good job we've done it once

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Speaker 1: or twice. Yeah, I mean we've got to the same

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Speaker 1: restaurant before we've agreed on something before. That's true, right, fair? Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: there might have been there might have been a few

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Speaker 1: Nazis hiding that down there. They were probably just still

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Speaker 1: haven't found them. Well no, actually, when they showed up,

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Speaker 1: the Nazis are probably saying, oh, thank god you're here.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go somewhere even thank you, thank you. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: that's very democratic, I know, yeah. Anyway, Um, all of

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Speaker 1: that having been said, we're going to float on out

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Speaker 1: of here. Okay insert ice joke here. It's kind of blustery, okay,

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