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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrea, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by

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Speaker 1: Browns on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hio Sue alive on a Monday at issue of the program.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great z.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: I was a football game, buddy. It's just great to

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Speaker 4: be in your presence.

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Speaker 2: It's great to be in your presence. I was under

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Speaker 2: the weather and I battled through it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah great, I'm back.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be here. It's good to be seen.

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Speaker 4: The wellness retreat did you well?

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Speaker 2: It did? It was? I tell you what.

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Speaker 5: Anytime that you walk in and you get one of

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Speaker 5: those little green juice shots ready to go, that's just

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Speaker 5: a that sets it off.

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Speaker 4: It really was.

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Speaker 5: I got the chakras working several masseuses, rubbing.

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Speaker 2: Me out, getting it everywhere.

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Speaker 4: I needed to be.

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Speaker 2: Big wins for everybody, Big wins for everybody. How you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: It's Pittsburgh. I'm surprised he came back.

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Speaker 4: So Pittsburgh. Peepile was I think having the time of

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Speaker 4: his life. He was very happy there.

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Speaker 5: How was that nacho spread? So I gotta put he

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Speaker 5: went a day early. He actually went Friday. He went

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Speaker 5: Friday just to get spend an extra day in his

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Speaker 5: in his adopted city.

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Speaker 6: They realized we were going to start off the show

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Speaker 6: like this. Well, I don't want to talk about the

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Speaker 6: game yet, fine, and you are within your right to

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Speaker 6: do so. Not once, okay, I like you, not once,

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Speaker 6: but twice.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 6: The gentleman that's sitting in that room with you got

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Speaker 6: the nachos.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, you went back? Hold on?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah you did.

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Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, look at the spread.

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Speaker 6: Damn right, you need to zoom.

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Speaker 2: You got a great, a great nacho set up there.

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Speaker 4: You got a kind of a a chili chili which

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Speaker 4: I did. I did sample sample. That's the best nacho

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Speaker 4: cheese in the world. Okay, look at that.

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Speaker 5: So that's your classic old school like not cheese, gooey

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 4: Who's it's already crusted on, thrusting from it's going to hurt.

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Speaker 4: These are the best nacho chips in the world. Tostito's

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Speaker 4: rounds thrown right out of the bag. Then you got

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Speaker 4: some sour cream in the back, you have fresh all opinions,

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Speaker 4: which I appreciate, it's nice. And then you have tostito

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Speaker 4: salsa dumped into a vent. This is what he has

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Speaker 4: done is the greatest nacho bar in the world. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: For Pittsburgh's began.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right then right, yeah, I mean, and now as

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Speaker 4: you look at it from this is how impressive it is.

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Speaker 6: Not once, but twice.

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Speaker 2: I went.

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Speaker 4: The first twice. I appreciate that they had lunch food.

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Speaker 4: That's nice. That was appreciated because too often a one

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Speaker 4: o'clock game it features breakfast food before and I don't

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 4: It's lunch. It's time for lunch. Their lunch line consisted

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Speaker 4: of a salad, which I did get, some of little

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Speaker 4: don't even know what I'll be honest, I don't know

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Speaker 6: Maybe that's why I like, if it was. If it was,

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Speaker 6: that moment just clicked in my head because.

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Speaker 4: You not even a vegetable. There was like a fortata.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but like it was

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Speaker 4: a giant tub of what looked like eggs.

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Speaker 6: And cream, and it was something I was not of.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some spinach in there. Maybe I don't like a keisha.

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Speaker 4: Was it trying to be a kishe? Yeah, but I

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Speaker 4: think a fortta keisha. I think it's tomato tomato.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I could be wrong about that, but I feel like

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Speaker 4: you could say the same agg gross, like disgusting. And

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Speaker 4: then it ended with like a smoked steak being carved.

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Speaker 4: So I got salad, I got steak, and then I

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Speaker 4: was like, I all right, we're here, A couple of chips,

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Speaker 4: got a couple of holopenias on there, little salsa and

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Speaker 4: a little nacho, and so I had no cheese though,

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Speaker 4: just a little bit of the chili, I guess ye.

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Speaker 4: And the chips were like they would be right out

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Speaker 4: when I went back, I'm like, I'm not even any

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Speaker 4: more of this smoked meat. This salad was gross. I'm

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Speaker 4: not even this fortata. So I'm still hungry. So I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna get a few more chips, a few more fresh

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Speaker 4: halo penias, And that's what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I was like, he was also saw you

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Speaker 6: ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 5: He loved it so much. It's it's really valedictorian in

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Speaker 5: summer school is what it is.

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Speaker 4: And it's not like if this nacho bar were next

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Speaker 4: to the nacho bar in Houston that we had where

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Speaker 4: they had like fresh carnitas that they were like putting

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Speaker 4: on there. They had multiple kinds of cheeses if you

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Speaker 4: were into that, you know from your your white cheeses,

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Speaker 4: maybe a chihuahua.

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Speaker 2: Probe Yeah to all the way to you're not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a huge case guy. In general. They had

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Speaker 4: they had multiple salsas, fresh sauces, pico dea gaios, they

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Speaker 4: had guacamole. They had a very day. They had it all.

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Speaker 4: And then this was Dumbe in the same calendar year

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Speaker 4: in which he ate it both of those places. In fact,

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Speaker 4: he was Houston twice twice. He decided that this.

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Speaker 2: Was this was it. That was it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did, like Kivvy Givey is listening to audio

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Speaker 5: he's gonna play later in the show for us.

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Speaker 2: He hears it. I didn't know we were gonna start

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Speaker 2: with fits came right over.

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Speaker 4: I will say something has happened at that stadium where

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Speaker 4: I did have the best egress I've ever had in

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Speaker 4: my life. Okay, I was game ended. What time would

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Speaker 4: you say the game ended? Gibbeck.

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Speaker 6: We signed off right at for twenty because I literally

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Speaker 6: had our postgame stream set to start it forward, and

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Speaker 6: I was like this might be a first, Like I

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Speaker 4: So we sign off at four twenty. I go downstairs

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Speaker 4: and do my postgame recap.

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Speaker 6: I have never seen our booth clear out the way it.

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Speaker 4: Did with Vincenzo. I was out there coo well and stilly.

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Speaker 4: I don't had a plane to catch, so we clear out.

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Speaker 4: I go hit my thing. I'm yelled at by Steelers

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Speaker 4: fans on the way out. I'm yelled at Steelers fans

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Speaker 4: on the way back up the ramp, and then I'm

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Speaker 4: on foot and I'm hoofing it and now I'm running

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Speaker 4: through Yeah, because my parking lot is like three blocks

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Speaker 4: up the hill and I'm like trying to get out

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Speaker 4: because it's been in years past. I can get in

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Speaker 4: my car, but I end up could be in my

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Speaker 4: car for an hour before I even like get three blocks.

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Speaker 4: It's terrible. Something's changed. May they cut a road off

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Speaker 4: or something. I'm zooming up checked left, checked right. Fans

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Speaker 4: like screaming at me, dumpster fire, you stink other things

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Speaker 4: that I can't even say. It just mean spirited and

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Speaker 4: like bumping me and they're like, hey, your bag's open

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Speaker 4: and like hitting my bag. I'm like okay, like for real,

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Speaker 4: like we're all adults here, bag up? What are we doing.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday when he showed up and dotairs with.

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Speaker 4: My bag's open? Because the boards are taller than the

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Speaker 4: top of the bag. Hard to figure out.

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Speaker 5: So you're you're you're like a kid training to get

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Speaker 5: to the lunch and all these bullies just keep bouncing

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Speaker 5: you around like a pinball.

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Speaker 4: To get to your boards. But then look at this.

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Speaker 5: Then it's no good. You have a folded board. You

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Speaker 5: gotta have it christ to be pure. Yeah, you get there,

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Speaker 4: So I'm in my car and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: you know that, I'm like, wait a second, I'm zipping out.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my goodness, boom boom boom boom boom.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the freeway. I was at Peppermint picking up

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Speaker 4: ty food at six thirty. Wow, what is the door

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Speaker 4: to door for me about one. Yeah, yeah, it's nothing

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Speaker 4: I've never seen. It was. It was a real treat.

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Speaker 4: But apparently I'm not the only one who added counters.

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Speaker 4: I know that Carly Teller and some of our players'

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Speaker 4: wives were not treated very well in that stadium, which

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Speaker 4: is that's way over the line you spent time with.

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Speaker 5: I was J Watts right behind TJ. Well, right next

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Speaker 5: to Boots. He was right next to t J. Watts's

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Speaker 5: wife here, and the people were could not Now I

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Speaker 5: know that. But in terms of the way that he

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Speaker 5: treated by us, was first class.

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Speaker 2: And they now she was great too.

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Speaker 5: She was taking pictures with everybody like she had a

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Speaker 5: good spirit about a good sport about it. And but yes,

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Speaker 5: they were treated with utmost class and professionalism.

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Speaker 2: So right, I saw that as well with the.

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Speaker 4: In the stands I know that we had in the intervention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's awful.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, come on, come on, it makes all the sense

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Speaker 6: in the world.

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Speaker 4: I will say, I enjoyed yesterday and I hope that

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Speaker 4: he's back in his hermosa abode listening, I Scilian. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you got a chance to listening to

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Speaker 4: the broadcast.

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Speaker 5: I listened to it the whole way from I listened

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Speaker 5: to the entire second quarter because I was I was

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Speaker 5: on the way back from basketball.

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Speaker 4: It probably wasn't there yet. I think it was more

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Speaker 4: second half when he just had it with the city,

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Speaker 4: the people, all of it, all of it.

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Speaker 6: He had never been.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's never been to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: And we were a game.

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Speaker 6: Well you're you're in for something here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he had some unbelievable lines. We were, we were,

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Speaker 4: he and I as we walked off, where like, somebody

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Speaker 4: asked us to give a message to Miles Garrett that

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Speaker 4: would be probably received poorly. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: asked me to deliver pleasantries.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, mouse Garret.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: We declined, And so we were talking about that, and

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Speaker 4: then we were talking about the kid in Denver who

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Speaker 4: I said. I was like, how come everywhere we go

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Speaker 4: walk and people are giving us a hard time, And

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Speaker 4: he's like, I don't know. And then he's like ranting

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Speaker 4: about the Steelers fans and then ranting on the kid

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Speaker 4: in Denver. He's like the kid was a truant. He

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Speaker 4: should have been a school I almost fell out of

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Speaker 4: my it was so good, it was so so good.

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Speaker 5: God, bless God, bless Listen, if you can't, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: let me just put let's do this this because I

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Speaker 4: So you're looking for young players and people that you

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Speaker 4: Is Jamis is the guy?

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Speaker 5: And that's the reason I ask is for me, I

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Speaker 5: In fact, I remember you and I talking this summer

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Speaker 4: they're both going to be counted on to play huge roles,

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Speaker 4: I mean duand in my in my mind is penciled

441
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 4: in as you're starting left tackle. Yeah, and like Mike

442
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 4: Call is going to be a starting defensive tackle. You

443
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 4: know you're old in that room right now. Very so

444
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 4: that's kind of the shame in it that you're not

445
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 4: getting to see some of these these people that you

446
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 4: know you really did. In the case of dwand you

447
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: take his body of work, you know probably would be

448
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 4: a first round pick. Yeah, and you know Mike Calls

449
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 4: got drafted, was your first pick taken in this year's draft,

450
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 4: and you know, we really didn't get to see me

451
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 4: something for a couple of games, obviously suspended early in

452
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 4: the season and and then now injured. So yeah, I

453
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 4: think you're you're right. You know, we talked about it,

454
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 4: you know last week that the biggest question facing this

455
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 4: organization is what is the planet quarterback for twenty twenty

456
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 4: five and beyond. That's the biggest question. And so you're

457
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 4: right in terms of what you can observe over the

458
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 4: end of twenty twenty four, because obviously Deshaun's still going

459
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 4: to be rehabbing from an achilles is Jameis Winston. We

460
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 4: had talked weeks ago that we both thought, you know,

461
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 4: you need to see dtr and I still would like

462
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 4: to see him. But at the same point, if nobody's

463
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 4: rushing to do that, perhaps there's reasons that we don't

464
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 4: know about it. I'm not those are no scores at all,

465
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: No it's just common sense. It just right. So yeah,

466
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: that's I think you're watching Jamis through that prism or

467
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: lens or whatever whatever you want to say it, because

468
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 4: you know in some ways, Yeah, that's what this is.

469
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 4: That's what this is about, is the this organization's primary

470
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 4: focus has to be just period the quarterback position. What

471
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: is that course, Yeah, because until you were able to

472
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 4: have that question definited answered, you're in. What you know

473
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: is is really kind of described in the NFL as

474
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: a bit of a limbo, and Jamis is pretty much doing,

475
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 4: folks right on what he does. He is he is

476
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 4: fully formed for his whole career. Yes, basically right on

477
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 4: what he does. Sixty his career is sixty one percent completions,

478
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: He's at sixty one percent. His career yards per attempt

479
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: is seven point six. He's at seven point three. His

480
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 4: career yards per completions twelve point five, which is actually

481
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: the leader of all active quarterbacks in the NFL. He's

482
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: at twelve this year. His touchdown interception ratio for his

483
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 4: career is basically three for every two. He's at thirteen

484
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: to nine.

485
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's right on it. Yeah, he is exactly

486
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: who he is.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's right on what you expected. The one anomaly

488
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: he had in his career was twenty twenty one when

489
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 4: he had fourteen touchdowns and three picks in New Orleans.

490
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: That was kind of the one anomaly season. And then

491
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: he gets hurt obviously, and you know this is the

492
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 4: most that he started since that season. But yeah, and

493
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 4: you need to find out, Okay, can we get it

494
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: to a point here maybe over the final four where

495
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 4: we cut down those mistakes. You know it's because five

496
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: picks in the last yeah, two games, and and have

497
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Speaker 4: that be tenable? And then what does that actually look like?

498
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Speaker 5: Do you think that's fair to ask though, because I

499
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 5: to everything you just said, it's kind of like the point.

500
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: Like he is who he is?

501
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 5: Do I think what is that he will not be

502
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 5: three touchdowns, two picks? I mean that he's in his

503
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 5: he's thirty now, like this is who he yeah, kind

504
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 5: of is. It's like, yeah, it's funny. Somebody brought up

505
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 5: Geno Smith with me this morning. They like, could he

506
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: have could Jamis be r Gino Smith? Where he's there

507
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 5: and then he he he turns into that where he's like,

508
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 5: you know, Geno's in his third year as a starter

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 5: at Seattle. Geno right now is fourteen touchdowns twelve picks

510
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 5: on the year.

511
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: Like they're winning.

512
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: He doesn't throw touchdowns for this year. It's weird because

513
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 4: he's one of the top five in the league in yards,

514
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 4: right is it thirty.

515
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 5: Four hundred throws it up there, Yeah, but they but

516
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 5: for whatever reason is the three touchdowns.

517
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: He's fourteen touchdowns twelve picks, which is basically what he

518
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: was his career. Is that. I mean, that's what got

519
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: him in trouble with the Jets and the Giants.

520
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: Was all yeah, so he was.

521
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Speaker 5: He was basically and the age wise matches up with Jamis,

522
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 5: like he's around the same age as Jameis when they

523
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 5: got you know, this opportunity that Jamis has right now

524
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 5: with the Browns.

525
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. So his first year in Seattle he throws for

526
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 4: forty two hundred and eighty two yards, seventy percent completions,

527
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 4: thirty touchdowns, eleven picks monsters. So that was monster year.

528
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: Last year was sixty five percent, twenty touchdowns, nine picks.

529
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: And then this year he's actually leading the league in

530
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 4: passing yards with thirty four and seventy forty number one

531
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: league fourteen touchdowns and twelve picks. It's yeah, I don't know. See.

532
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 5: I mean that's what I think about because I watched

533
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 5: Donald go twenty two to twenty eight and five touchdowns,

534
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 5: and I said, well, Sam, Donald's going to be a

535
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 5: starting quarterback.

536
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: He's probably get good money next year.

537
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: Now he's going to have to be smart in his

538
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 5: choice and hopefully learn from what he learned in the

539
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 5: league and go to a place that will take advantage

540
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 5: of his skill set with that type of offense.

541
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: So where are those places?

542
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: Right?

543
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean how many of those places are out there

544
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: that need quarterback?

545
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 4: Quarterback?

546
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 7: Right?

547
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: I mean that's potentially that would be us, But we're

548
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 5: not gonna have the cap money to be able to

549
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 5: pay him.

550
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 4: No, he's gonna, I feel himself to get a like

551
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 4: a Baker.

552
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

553
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 4: I was just going to say a Baker deal, a

554
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 4: Baker deal.

555
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this year.

556
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 5: If there is a place, I just don't know what

557
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 5: the landing spot is quite honestly, Minnesota might do it.

558
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 5: They might go give him a three year deal and

559
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 5: tell JJ McCarthy to sit for two years and get

560
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 5: all the way hialthy like like Jordan Love, and then

561
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 5: we'll play in a couple of years. They could absolutely

562
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 5: do that in Minnesota. So then Daniel Jones is going

563
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 5: to be in the mix. You know, who knows what's

564
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 5: gonna happen in Minnesota with that situation, So you know,

565
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 5: there could be I'm sorry, in Atlanta, not Minnesota, So

566
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 5: there could be some guys out there. And I think

567
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 5: that's the way I'm choosing to watch the last month

568
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 5: is is there a roadmap here where Jamis? You bring

569
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: Jamis back, he's your starter, and he's your starter, then

570
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: two to three years until you get it sorted out

571
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: the way you want to.

572
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: What would in your mind like, what would that have

573
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: to look like? And by the way, Daniel Jones, it's

574
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: amazing how many of these guys there are. Daniel Jones

575
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: sixty four percent completions for his career, six point five

576
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: yards per attempt, eighty four rating for his career, and

577
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 4: basically two touchdowns for every three touchdowns for every two picks.

578
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Basically kind of a mirror of Jamis.

579
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well what I would like to see now.

580
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 5: I don't know how you can even do it now,

581
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 5: but I think the question you have to ask is

582
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 5: can Jamis run the Cleveland Browns offense as Kevin Spansky

583
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 5: brought it here. That's that's what I would want to

584
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: because I think that's who we are. I think we

585
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying this has anything to do with Ken.

586
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 5: I mean Ken was brought in here in part to

587
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 5: get the most out of de Shaun Watson and the

588
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: shotgun and all of that and take full advantage.

589
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: That does fit Jamis.

590
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: It fits Jamis very well.

591
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 5: But I guess what I'm saying is I would not

592
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 5: make those same accommodations for Jamis or anybody who's a bridge.

593
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: And let's be honest, he's at best.

594
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: It's a bridge, and you hope that it turns into.

595
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 5: Maybe it's more, maybe it's four years, who knows, but

596
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 5: it's a bridge, of course. So that's the That's what

597
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 5: I would want to see, is how does he handle

598
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: those components of what we are offensively and what the identity.

599
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: Is pretty from from from an under center play action situation,

600
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: he's actually been pretty good. Yeah, So Jamis this year

601
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 4: from play action is thirty one to fifty two, eleven

602
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 4: point two yards per attempt, five hundred and eighty yards,

603
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: four touchdowns, one pick in a rating of one sixteen

604
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 4: with play action. Without play action, he's uh nine touchdowns,

605
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 4: eight pick seventy eight rating, So he's actually, I mean

606
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: not that's just as simple as it is play action,

607
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: but that is obviously a big part of what makes

608
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: Kevin's offense successful, and he's been what he's also done

609
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 4: is something that is helpful. He's been very good against

610
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 4: the blitz. He's actually been better against the blitz than

611
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: he has when he has not been blitzed. And he's

612
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: been very effecive from mc clean pocket. I mean, I

613
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: think it is there with Jamis. I think it gives

614
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: you the ability to be multiple because he has been

615
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: under the center. Play action game actually has been very good.

616
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

617
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 5: I mean, he got all the reps, and he got

618
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 5: all the off season, and he got all of it.

619
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 5: You know, we're not gonna be sitting here going Super

620
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 5: Bowl Super Browns next year to start the year. But

621
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 5: you could be in the mix in the postseason with

622
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 5: a full off season.

623
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

624
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: And the truth is in the NFL, you don't know.

625
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: I mean I think that you look around the National

626
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: Football League and you say, okay, who are the teams

627
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: that have been able to overcome you know, either dead

628
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 4: money situations or you know, challenging cap situations and all

629
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: of that. It's the teams that have been able to

630
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: hit on a quarterback young, you know. And that's for

631
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: the Niners, Broncos. Niners with Purdy, Broncos, Bo Nicks Commanders

632
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 4: I think obviously have a real one in Jadeen Daniels.

633
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: The Bears situation just feels like a disaster because they Yeah,

634
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: that's the hole is so much less than the some

635
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: of its parts. Yeah, especially on offense. Yeah, but that's

636
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: that's that's what it is. And I mean, and you look, folks,

637
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: this is this is not hard. When you look at

638
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: the teams that would be in the playoffs if they

639
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: started today, it's it's pretty apparent. Kansas City has Mahomes,

640
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: Buffalo has Josh Allen, the Steelers have Russell Wilson playing

641
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: excellent football.

642
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's won a Super Bowl.

643
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, Russell Wilson is probably gonna be a Hall

644
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: of Famer.

645
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: He's trending that way based on if this continues for

646
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 5: another couple of years.

647
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Russ, it's funny when I was preparing

648
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: for this game, so Russ this year has twelve touchdowns,

649
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: three picks. He's completing sixty five percent of his passes.

650
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: His ratings one hundred and four I mean Russell Wilson

651
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: for his career sixty five percent completions, three hundred and

652
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: forty six touchdowns, one hundred and nine picks, quarterback rating

653
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: of one hundred point one for his career. He has

654
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 4: been very good. He is a he is a nine

655
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: time Pro Bowler, He's a Super Bowl champ.

656
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: He is.

657
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: Top five in the Offensive Player of the Year four times. Oh,

658
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: he's been the second team All Pro, never first team

659
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Speaker 4: All Pro. But that's okay anyway, it's at he's playing

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Speaker 4: very well. Houston right now is in on record, but

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Speaker 4: I think it has a lot to do with the

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Speaker 4: conference there. But still c J. Stroud is a guy

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Speaker 4: that you feel like is is even though the Ravens

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Speaker 4: have a two time MVP, Lamar Jackson, the Chargers have

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Speaker 4: Herbert who's a beast, and Denver has bon Nix that's

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs right there. In the AFC and the NFC, it's.

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Speaker 2: A little different.

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Speaker 4: In the NFC, not a ton though, Well you have

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Speaker 4: a couple because of you have three what I would

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Speaker 4: call bridge Bridge second chance, but all.

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Speaker 2: Were all were highly regarded, highly regarded.

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Speaker 4: So you got Goff who's playing lights out. You got

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts who has also a great supporting cast with him,

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Speaker 4: but has been.

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Speaker 2: Yep, good MVP level player.

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Speaker 4: So then it goes Geno, Baker and Darnald who are

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Speaker 4: all playing well and Bakes right now doing enough to win.

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Speaker 4: But also I think he turned over three times last game,

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Speaker 4: three times the game four, but is completing seventy percent

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Speaker 4: of his passes twenty eight touchdowns. I think something like that.

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Speaker 4: He's playing very well. Darnold's playing well. Green Bay's got

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Speaker 4: Jordan Love who was every bit the franchise quarterback and

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Speaker 4: watching it as Jaden Daniels, I mean, you look at

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Speaker 4: it and it's just that simple. And what's wild is

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Speaker 4: you look at teams not in the playoffs. I would

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Speaker 4: say the only surefire franchise quarterback. I think there are

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Speaker 4: two where they feel like they've got franchisey quarterbacks surefire

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Speaker 4: is Burrow, yes, and then like we really like him

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Speaker 4: to a yeah, and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: But I think Drake May, Drake may eventually Okay.

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Speaker 4: So that's in the NFC and in the AFC, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: And then in the NFC, of the teams that are

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Speaker 4: not in, here's what's crazy. Stafford, Yeah, bawling And by

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Speaker 4: the way, nobody wants them to get in. Nobody does

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Speaker 4: you'd much rather play CLC than the LA Rams, Right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Atlanta's got cousins, Arizona Kyler, Murray, Niners, Purty, Dallas Prescott,

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Speaker 4: but he's hurt. New Orleans probably doesn't feel like they

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Speaker 4: have one in car although he's been he was very

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Speaker 4: good against US Chicago saying okay, I'm not sure by Killbo.

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Speaker 4: Carolina's probably feeling. Yeah, they're saying okay, We're okay. So

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Speaker 4: but you need That's that's it in this league.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Here's coach Tefanski all right.

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Speaker 9: Injury front, Mike Ford is still in concussion protocol. Greg

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Speaker 9: Newsom has a hamstring injury. You know, obviously you watch

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Speaker 9: the tape yesterday. It's extremely disappointing to play not well

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Speaker 9: enough to get a win on the road. Obviously, losing

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Speaker 9: a turnover battle is difficult, makes life harder on yourself

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Speaker 9: and trying to find a way to win. So we

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Speaker 9: have to do a better job there, which I think

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Speaker 9: is obvious. So there's things that we feel like we

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Speaker 9: can clean up and do better, and that's what we'll do.

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Speaker 9: We'll just keep our head down and get back to work.

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Speaker 3: Hey Kevin, thanks Scott.

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Speaker 10: Hey, are you sticking with Jamis as a starter?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Okay, And given that the quarterback situation beyond this year

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Speaker 10: is kind of up in the air, do you think

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Speaker 10: it's important to get kind of more tape on him

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Speaker 10: and evaluate him longer in your system and everything.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, our focus right now is really just try and

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Speaker 9: find ways to get a win, Scott, And that's you know,

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Speaker 9: a big part of this week is they finding ways

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Speaker 9: to play good football on offense, defense, and special teams

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Speaker 9: and put ourselves in a position to find a way

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Speaker 9: to win.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha.

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Speaker 10: And then on that screen the interception, I guess what's

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Speaker 10: he supposed to do there? Is it just a good

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Speaker 10: play by the defense or you know what did you

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Speaker 10: see when you look at that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think with screens you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, sometimes they look really good, sometimes they don't, and

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Speaker 9: there are times when as a quarterback you can dirt

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Speaker 9: that thing and throw it away.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously trying to make a play. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a great play by their player.

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Speaker 9: There are things that we can do better really across

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Speaker 9: the board on that play, but I also have to

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Speaker 9: tip my cap to their player.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Kevin, just wondering what kind of goes into that

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Speaker 11: decision to stick with Jamis Is it just a no

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Speaker 11: brainer because obviously he's averaging more than three hundred yards

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Speaker 11: or what kind of is the line of thinking there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the question.

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Speaker 9: But for me and for us, we're just going to

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Speaker 9: continue to do everything we can to play better. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: I think we can play better on offense. Certainly as

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Speaker 9: a team, we can play better, But really the focus

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Speaker 9: is making sure that we put our guys in position

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Speaker 9: to find a way to win.

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Speaker 11: Quick follow up on that, is there going to come

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Speaker 11: a point at all maybe that you might want to

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Speaker 11: take a look at Dorian, you know, for the future,

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Speaker 11: or is that really not in your line of thinking

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Speaker 11: at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: My line of thinking, really, Mary Kay, is about Kansas

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Speaker 9: City and this week that's where I'll really focus.

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Speaker 12: Kevin, I hear you say that you're just focused on

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Speaker 12: Kanasas City, But Joy is it. Do you think he'll

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Speaker 12: play again this season?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not.

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Speaker 9: I'll rule him out for this week, Jeff, I'm not

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Speaker 9: going to go past this week, and I'll just obviously

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Speaker 9: update you guys as we get more information.

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Speaker 12: We haven't seen him in the lock room. Is he

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Speaker 12: in the building and what is he doing if he is.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, again, he's making sure that he's taken care of himself,

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Speaker 9: getting all the information he can get he's been in

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Speaker 9: and out of the building.

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Speaker 13: Kevin, can you just talk a little bit about the

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Speaker 13: job Jack Conklin did again yesterday going against TJ, because

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Speaker 13: it seemed like two really strong performances from him.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you pointed that out.

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Speaker 9: Actually it was two good performances versus a great rusher.

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Speaker 9: There's times when you help your tackles versus that team,

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Speaker 9: there's times that you don't. And I thought Jack really

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Speaker 9: did well even when he was singled up. You know,

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Speaker 9: where he's come to this point from where he was

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Speaker 9: with his injury, I think is pretty impressive.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I was gonna that was gonna be my follow up,

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Speaker 13: basically just to see him to not only get a

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Speaker 13: chance to come back out there and play for you guys,

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Speaker 13: but to excel in these moments he's talked about like that's,

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Speaker 13: you know, definitely giving him something to play for over

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Speaker 13: these last handful of games. Just how have you seen

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Speaker 13: him kind of embrace that even though the winds haven't

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Speaker 13: necessarily come super easy.

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Speaker 9: I think he's fought really hard to get back I

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Speaker 9: got back and really hasn't missed a beat. I think

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Speaker 9: he's certainly gotten better each week. As most players do

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Speaker 9: when you're coming off of an injury. You get more

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Speaker 9: comfortable and you get a little bit stronger, and those

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Speaker 9: type of things. And I thought he's acquitted himself really nicely.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Kevin, I realized there's no been there's not been

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Speaker 8: a common theme here week to week with why things

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Speaker 8: have gone the way they have. I know you're not

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Speaker 8: in a reflective mode, but as you head down the

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Speaker 8: home stretch here, what's been the challenges of you know,

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Speaker 8: going week to week and having to correct the wide

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Speaker 8: variety of things that have popped up, and just you know,

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Speaker 8: why do you think that that is not gone positively

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Speaker 8: for you?

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Speaker 9: I just say, our job as coaches dryl or to

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Speaker 9: find ways to win games, obviously, and identify the things

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Speaker 9: that are holding us back and correct those things. And

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Speaker 9: it's not just one thing. It's not a specific side

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Speaker 9: of the ball. It's not players, coaches, it's just all

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Speaker 9: of us. We just need to identify those things that

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Speaker 9: we can do better and we just have to do

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Speaker 9: them better.

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Speaker 8: And I wanted to ask you about that Kadarius Tony

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Speaker 8: tawning flag there in the fourth quarter. I know he

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Speaker 8: wasn't in on like the ensuing offensive series, but you

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Speaker 8: sent him back out. There was there any consideration to

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Speaker 8: just keeping him off the field. I mean, it was

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Speaker 8: pretty obvious why he was flagged. He said after the game.

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Speaker 8: He really didn't get why that happened, and it just

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Speaker 8: seemed a little ironic that that situation popped up after

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Speaker 8: Bubba last week had talked about how much you, as

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Speaker 8: a head coach stress not doing things that did hurt

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Speaker 8: the team or you know, things like that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously, I mean that's correct. We can't cost our

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Speaker 9: team fifth teen yards. We did it twice yesterday and

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Speaker 9: that's not good enough for this football team. And we

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Speaker 9: can't not field that punt.

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Speaker 3: That's obviously.

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Speaker 9: Those are big plays in these games, and that's just

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Speaker 9: something that we need to again make sure that our

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Speaker 9: guys understand how important it is to maintain possession of

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Speaker 9: the ball. And when you do that on the road

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Speaker 9: and you have two interceptions, a enough punt and turnover

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Speaker 9: on downs, it makes it really hard to win. It's

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Speaker 9: not impossible to win in those situations, just makes it

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Speaker 9: really really hard.

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Speaker 14: All right, So, Kevin, I understand the desire to win.

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Speaker 14: This is the first time you and Andrew have been

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Speaker 14: in this position. Where you're so out of it with

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Speaker 14: four games to go. So why wouldn't you guys collaborate

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Speaker 14: and start working on next year with player decisions. Is

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Speaker 14: it the risk of losing the locker room or what

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Speaker 14: is it?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 9: I would tell you obviously, Andrew and I collaborate on

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Speaker 9: a lot of decisions and will continue to do that

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Speaker 9: and talk about those type of things, Tony. But I

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Speaker 9: think for me and for us and for us as

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Speaker 9: an organization, really our focus goes to finding a way

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Speaker 9: to win this week versus Kansas City.

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Speaker 14: Okay, So Dustin Hopkins, you made it very clear yesterday

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Speaker 14: that he's your kicker, and he talked about how hard

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Speaker 14: it is right now for him to get a swing

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Speaker 14: thought that works. He's missed six out of nine. Would

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Speaker 14: you even bring in kickers to look at just in case?

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Speaker 14: Put a guy on the practice squad.

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Speaker 9: Thing I would tell you, Tony is we will work

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Speaker 9: through this with Dustin. This is something that I know

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Speaker 9: he can get through. We'll get through it together. He's

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Speaker 9: a veteran, he's been through a lot in his career already,

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Speaker 9: and this is something we'll continue to work through.

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Speaker 15: Kevin, I know Isaama MacGuire was involved in that force fumble.

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Speaker 15: He's made some plays throughout this season. How have you

877
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 15: seen him kind of grow in the role, especially you

878
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 15: know after Vinza Darius Smith trade, where he's been asked

879
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 15: to do a little bit more.

880
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 9: I think he's done a nice job cam with those

881
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 9: increased reps.

882
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: I was playing, however, many plays for US prior.

883
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 9: And then certainly has seen an increase in his reps

884
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 9: and has done a nice job with them. He was

885
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 9: close a couple times yesterday, So it's just to me

886
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 9: an example of a young player that's going to continue

887
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 9: to work, try and get a little bit better every

888
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 9: single week.

889
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 15: How much of that has been the time that he

890
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 15: spent around guys like Miles Garrett, those veterans in that

891
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 15: room and the coaching is have too, but people who

892
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 15: have kind of helped get him along.

893
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 9: I think that's a big part of player development, is

894
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 9: leaning on your locker room, leaning on that position room,

895
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 9: leaning on the guys out there on the practice field.

896
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 9: I think if you watch our d line work throughout

897
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 9: the day and watch them on the field together, there's

898
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 9: a lot of conversation between the vets and the young

899
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 9: guys and talking about what works what might not work.

900
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: What are some things that they see.

901
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 9: So that's just an example of veterans in this locker room,

902
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 9: veterans on this team that want to bring their young

903
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 9: guys along here.

904
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 10: And I get a couple of injury things, Greg, do

905
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 10: you think he'll miss time? Without him?

906
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 3: He'll miss time, but I'm not sure exactly how long?

907
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 10: Do you know if it's the same one he had

908
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 10: surgery on before the season? It is and is said

909
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 10: still in the protocol.

910
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: He's still in the protocol.

911
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 10: And my hall, did he have surgery? Because I think

912
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 10: his eligible will come off? I R do you know

913
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 10: if we will?

914
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 9: He did not have surgery. Yes, he's eligible. We'll work

915
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 9: through that the next couple of days.

916
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 11: Kevin, I know we've talked about the interceptions with Jamis,

917
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 11: but do you feel like in some ways that's part

918
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 11: and parcel of having thrown the ball ninety nine times

919
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 11: in the past two games, or how do you feel

920
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 11: about them? Are you getting irritated mad at these interceptions?

921
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 11: Are you accepting them because of some of the circumstances,

922
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 11: or what's your sort of feeling on them.

923
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 9: I look at it, Mary kay as we need to

924
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 9: play better as an offense to help our team win.

925
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 9: We don't want to give the ball away in any

926
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 9: former fashion. We don't want to fumble it away. We

927
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 9: don't want to throw interceptions. But we also coach each

928
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 9: play because each play is a little bit different than

929
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 9: the last. So, like I've said to you guys before,

930
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 9: not all interceptions are created equal, and all we can

931
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 9: do with any play is learn from them.

932
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: And that's what Jameis will continue to do.

933
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 11: When he said perfect throw, perfect throw about the one

934
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 11: to Elijah, was he intimating that perhaps Elijah didn't run

935
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 11: his route a little deep enough on that second one,

936
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 11: or where do you think he might have been going

937
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 11: with that?

938
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have to talk to him about that more specifically.

939
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: Not sure.

940
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Speaker 5: let's choose your own adventure. College football playoff bracket Juan Soto,

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick coaching North Carolina.

965
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Which of those things interesting most?

966
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: I don't know? I mean he's talking on macafew about

967
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: He's like, I'd run it like professional program will be

968
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: for players who want to go play in the NFL,

969
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: and I'll have them ready to go. Why there's no

970
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: way he wants to do this now, there's no chance

971
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: he wants to do this. Why now? Florida is also

972
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 4: saying that none of the three NFL teams with openings

973
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: have even reached out to him. Why why?

974
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: I think because the last we saw him without Tom Brady,

975
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 5: it didn't look good. And he's gonna want full control

976
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 5: over every part of the operation. And I don't know

977
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: that he warrants that. Based on how he's drafted.

978
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 4: I have a feeling if he were running the Falcons

979
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: that they would be in a little bit of a

980
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 4: better position.

981
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: There's no question.

982
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 5: If he running the Falcons, I think Dallas next year

983
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 5: would make all the sense in the world. But he

984
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 5: would have to also acquiesce to like, you're not going

985
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: to control the draft.

986
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Not in Dallas, Dallas, he would not. No, No, Atlanta.

987
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't probably would. I don't know, I don't know.

988
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: It's very strange, that's for sure.

989
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 5: He would fail spectacularly in the NCAA with the way

990
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: that the sport is now. North Carolina does not have

991
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 5: They don't have the booster money. I mean it's a

992
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: wealthy school, but they don't have the emphasis on football

993
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 5: that is required to pay for players. There's no way

994
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: he's going to re recruit his own players and players

995
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 5: who are seventeen years old. You I mentioned a seventeen

996
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 5: year old kid who, because it's North Carolina, says, let's

997
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 5: say he's a wide receiver. Ohio State is offering me

998
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 5: a million five. I'll come to North Carolina, but it's

999
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: going to cost you two and a half. That's your

1000
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 5: North Carolina attacks because that's what's happening. Can you imagine

1001
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 5: Belichick being like, okay, I can somebody get on the

1002
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: line with a booster and to see when can get

1003
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 5: up with two million to get this kid?

1004
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: But Bill, is he worth it? Well, I don't know.

1005
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: He's seventeen. I don't know if you'll do it. I

1006
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 5: don't turn it anything or not. That's college football.

1007
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: At the moment. Yeah, so no, I don't. I don't

1008
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: think that would work out well on that side of things.

1009
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 5: So yeah, a couple of minutes on the playoff, all right,

1010
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 5: let's do it. I think, what, ohios, look you, I

1011
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 5: want to be very clear, you lose it home to Michigan,

1012
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 5: you do not have a right to complain about anything.

1013
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: So that in years past you'd be out. That would

1014
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: have been the biggest that. That's one that I was

1015
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: listening to pardon my take on my morning on my

1016
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: drive to Pittsburgh. Yeah, and they had on what's his name,

1017
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 4: Brandon Walker? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're doing some

1018
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 4: college football stuff and they were talking about they all

1019
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 4: agree that was like a top five college football loss ever.

1020
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: But he made the point that he's like, because of this,

1021
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. No, they can still go win the

1022
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 4: national title. If that was like win that one they're in,

1023
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 4: which it would have been in a normal year it

1024
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: would have been out, they'd be out.

1025
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: Then.

1026
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: It is the most devastating. It's as devastating as it gets.

1027
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 4: But it's not. They're still in now. They were I believe,

1028
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 4: properly punished for that loss because they have their road

1029
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: is going to be.

1030
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: It's the most different road Georgia.

1031
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 5: There is not a team in the college football bracket

1032
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: who has a more difficult road to get to a

1033
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 5: national championship and win it than Ohio State, all of

1034
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 5: us in the sport and follow it closely in college football,

1035
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 5: and they would be among them. At the beginning of

1036
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 5: the year, we said there were four teams that were

1037
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: more talented than everybody else Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, Georgia

1038
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 5: to win a national championship, Ohio State will have to

1039
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 5: beat all four more likely than not now.

1040
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: To be here. I also believe that Oregon as the

1041
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 4: one seed, has a significantly more difficult path than Georgia

1042
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: as the two seed, which is not right.

1043
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 5: They have a more difficult pass as the one than

1044
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 5: either Boise State or Arizona State has. Is the three

1045
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 5: or the four? Yes, they have the most difficult path

1046
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 5: of the by seeds. Yes, whether Tennessee or Ohio State. Yes, yes,

1047
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 5: that's harder than anything. Right, This is nonsense what they

1048
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 5: did here. It's also disrespect for Notre Dame is outrageous, outrageous.

1049
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: The Notre Dame is why end.

1050
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: Up to seven? Why aren't they?

1051
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1052
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 5: Penn State has beaten absolutely no one, yeah, none. Do

1053
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: you know what their best record is? You know what

1054
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 5: their best win is? He knows Illinois twenty one to

1055
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: seven at home that's not a great win. That's their

1056
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: best win. Their best winner losses to Ohio State in Oregon,

1057
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 5: that's their best wins. They don't have anything. And if

1058
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 5: Notre Dame were there in Pens, I think they're trying

1059
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 5: to force Notre Dame into a conference.

1060
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: That's what I think.

1061
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: Here's the other thing. It becomes. We can always call audibles,

1062
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: right and obviously not this year. But college football, Nate says,

1063
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 4: in for the twenty twenty five playoff, even though they're

1064
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: calling this the twenty twenty it's so confusing. It's twenty

1065
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: fourth season. They're called the twenty twenty five national championship.

1066
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: Uh huh for the next one. Yep, win your conference,

1067
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: you get in. You do not get a bye just

1068
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: for winning your time.

1069
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 5: And by the way, I would get rid of that too,

1070
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 5: because all these conferences aren't created equal and you can't

1071
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 5: tell you. You can't tell twelve to have them at

1072
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 5: you can't tell me. And I love the Boise says story.

1073
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: There are how many teams in their conference? Do you

1074
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 5: think of winning records in the Mountain.

1075
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 4: West, how many teams are in the conference? I was three,

1076
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: that's my number. Rex chant I believe draws and PET three.

1077
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: Three have winning records. That's it.

1078
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. What you're then, crew, you're telling me,

1079
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: that's so, why don't we do this? Why don't we

1080
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: have three conferences in college football?

1081
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: You ready divisions?

1082
00:50:53,040 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 4: You mean I'm saying conferences? Okay, go Big ten, yep, SEC. Yeah,

1083
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: the world and I think you should be pulling into

1084
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: the big They should both be expanding. Big ten and

1085
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 4: SEC should take in every school that they want and

1086
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 4: they think is a real program. Notre Dame should be

1087
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: in the Big ten of the SEC if you if you,

1088
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: if SMU's got legs, you can bring them in.

1089
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: Super conference stuff.

1090
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: That's all it is too. Super conferences. And then the

1091
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Speaker 4: rest of the world and the rest of the world

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Speaker 4: can get an automatic person in or they can have

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Speaker 4: you know, if they plays for their own thing or

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Speaker 4: do their own thing. But that's where the reality of

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Speaker 4: where the sport is going. You are going to have

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Speaker 4: the fact that Notre Dame in Ohio State have to

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Speaker 4: play Oregon in Georgia, and you're gonna get a Texas

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Speaker 4: Arizona State game and likely I don't even you could

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Speaker 4: get it an SMU Boise game like Penn State.

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Speaker 5: Ohio State beat Penn State a month ago at their place.

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00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 5: Penn State did nott score an offensive touchdown, and Penn

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Speaker 5: State's road to the national championship is SMU at home?

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Speaker 2: Is it? Boise Boise? And then Georgia with their backup

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Speaker 2: quarterback because Carson Beck elbow no goodie.

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Speaker 4: So he's done. He's done. There.

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Speaker 2: I haven't said it, but that's what's happening.

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00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 4: So then that side of the bracket has nobody.

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Speaker 2: Now Georgia limping in or Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: So then really, if you're the Buckeye Zone, if you

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Speaker 4: beat you're gonna have to beat Oregon t Tennessee, Oregon

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Speaker 4: in Texas. That's all you gotta do.

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Speaker 7: Cheez.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you do that, you're gonna win. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: The hoff on the other end of it, my friend,

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Speaker 5: let's do a little football out of the gates. Ze

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Speaker 5: and I were talking about this the last ten minutes

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Speaker 5: of the first segment, and that is and I'll pose

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00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: the question to you, what should we judge this team

1139
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 5: by the last month? What should we be looking for?

1140
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: What would you be looking for if you were ownership

1141
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 5: or you were Andrew Berry, Paul de Poessa, Kevin Stefanski,

1142
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Speaker 5: What do you want to see the last month, what

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 5: standard are you holding them to?

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Speaker 7: So I would say, from a macro standpoint, I want

1145
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 7: to see the guys playing hard as if the playoffs

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Speaker 7: were on the line, right. I want to see guys

1147
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 7: that are motivated that it looks like they're putting in

1148
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 7: their best effort, not only just on the field, but

1149
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 7: they look prepared, they look ready for their opponent. And

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00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 7: I think that's the big thing, right because when you're

1151
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 7: talking about, Okay, how have these coaches done right? We

1152
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 7: know that the situation every year is different, and certainly

1153
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 7: this year is different than probably everybody expected. But can

1154
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 7: you motivate your guys? Can you get them to play hard?

1155
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 7: Can you get them to prepare no matter what the

1156
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 7: circumstances are. So that's the first thing, and then from

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00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 7: a smaller level, when you boil down to the micro approach,

1158
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 7: I want to see the continued the development of our

1159
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 7: receivers because I think, no matter who's going to be

1160
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 7: our quarterback next year, finding out who do we have

1161
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 7: that can catch the football that can be a game change,

1162
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Speaker 7: or whether that be at tight end or at receiver,

1163
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 7: who's the guys that we can count on moving forward?

1164
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Speaker 7: And are those guys continuing to develop through the end

1165
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Speaker 7: of the season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was saying, Haffen. I think the

1167
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Speaker 4: hard part is some of the guys you really would

1168
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Speaker 4: want to see, you know, Delan Jones on my I

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Speaker 4: called j Okay, these guys, you know, Tilman's miss the

1170
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: last two games, are injured, and so that makes it

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Speaker 4: more of a challenge, right, because we're forced to play

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Speaker 4: a lot of veterans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, like I was saying, no season ends

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00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 7: up exactly how you would have expected. And if we

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Speaker 7: were sitting at the record that we're at right now,

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Speaker 7: with playoffs in the rear view mirror not happening this season,

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Speaker 7: you're saying, hey, it'd be nice to see some of

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Speaker 7: these young guys. Dwan Jones, can you be your left

1180
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 7: tackle of the future? Right? And I think that was

1181
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 7: a big question that I think he had answered until

1182
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 7: he got banged up. Same thing with Cedric Tillman. Can

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Speaker 7: he be a part of what we're doing moving forward?

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Speaker 7: And unfortunately a lot of those young guys that you

1185
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 7: felt like we're stepping in the right direction that could

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Speaker 7: be a big part of the future did get hurt.

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Speaker 7: So now it's a little bit more of these veterans,

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Speaker 7: but I still think the Jerry Judy's, Elijah Moore's. I

1189
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Speaker 7: think those are the guys in the past catching room

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Speaker 7: that you really want to see, Hey, can they take

1191
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 7: the next step? Can they be reliable veteran receivers that

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00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 7: can be a number one on the two? Is this

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00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 7: the type of offense that they can thrive in and

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00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 7: they're good enough in that room to put us in

1195
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Speaker 7: position to make the playoffs and make a run next season,

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Speaker 7: Because that's what you're looking at right now. It's evaluating

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Speaker 7: everybody to see, hey, can they be a piece of

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Speaker 7: the puzzle for next season to make this thing a

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Speaker 7: playoff run and then potentially a championship team.

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Speaker 5: All Right, hof Let's do the Jamus part of that

1201
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 5: conversation as well, because one of the things that I

1202
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 5: said was I want to know. I'd like to know,

1203
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 5: one way or another at the end of this stretch

1204
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 5: if I can go into next season and Jamis is

1205
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 5: going to be at the very least the bridge answer

1206
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 5: quarterback for this franchise for the next year, perhaps the

1207
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Speaker 5: next year or two. If you were in that mindset,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not suggesting that you are, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to put words in your mouth, but if you were,

1210
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 5: what do you need to see out of him to

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00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: lead you to believe that next year with a full offseason,

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00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 5: full training camp, you're the man the whole way you

1213
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: feel comfortable with it.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think for the Brown situations, from a salary

1215
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 7: cap standpoint, you got to find a quarterback that obviously

1216
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 7: his salary can fit in your small hole peg that

1217
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 7: you need him to fit in, and you obviously want

1218
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 7: good enough play there that you still have a team

1219
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 7: that you can be excited about and that gives you

1220
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Speaker 7: hope to maybe make the playoffs and make a run

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Speaker 7: for a championship. And at the quarterback position, you've got

1222
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Speaker 7: to do two things right. You've got to be a

1223
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 7: great leader. You got to be able to motivate and

1224
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 7: bring the collective together to play better as a sum

1225
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 7: of the whole rather than the individual parts. And I

1226
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 7: think Jamis has done that. I think we've seen great

1227
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Speaker 7: effort out of everybody, motivation. I think he's definitely a

1228
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 7: natural leader. People are drawn to him, people want to

1229
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 7: play for him. So I think that box is pretty

1230
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 7: much checked. But the last piece that you want to

1231
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 7: see is you want to see the Lord deliver him

1232
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 7: from not only pick sixes, but deliver him from picks

1233
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 7: as a whole. Because it's great to not throw pick sixes,

1234
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 7: but when you're still throwing a couple interceptions, they're having

1235
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 7: a few turnovers every game. It's fun right now because

1236
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 7: playoffs are not on the line, and you can say, ah, shocks,

1237
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 7: he threw a pick. That's who Jamis is. But it's

1238
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 7: a different conversation and you're feeling a little bit different

1239
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 7: about it if you're ten and two and you're making

1240
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 7: a run and he's thrown an interception and you're losing

1241
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 7: a game that has significant implications for playoffs or seeding

1242
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: or the division. And so I think the perspective is

1243
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 7: going to change next season when we're hopefully going to

1244
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 7: be playing for playoffs in December, and you need to

1245
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 7: be able to have a quarterback that can reliably move

1246
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 7: the ball down the field, which Jamis can, but also

1247
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 7: not make those critical interceptions, those critical errors that lead

1248
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 7: to certain losses. And I think that remains to be seen.

1249
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 7: Can you see that growth in that progress towards better

1250
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 7: decision making down the stretch with.

1251
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Speaker 4: Jamis, It's going to be interesting to see what happens

1252
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: here these final points, and then obviously into next year.

1253
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: Here huff, but let's take a quick diversion into something

1254
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: that is going to be nothing but bring us pure joy.

1255
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: The Big Four to Zho, a big trip, some successful

1256
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: foray into nature with some of the young bucks. Tell

1257
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: us about it, how to go looked awesome, looked glorious,

1258
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,959
Speaker 4: and if we couldn't be happier to celebrate a fine

1259
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: man like yourself.

1260
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 7: Oh man, it was great being able to send you guys,

1261
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 7: some videos, some pictures, some text message updates. Hit the

1262
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 7: Big four zero finally on top of the mountain, and

1263
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 7: just like when I was in Germany, I would never

1264
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 7: walk down the mountains too hard on the knees, so

1265
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 7: I plan on staying at the top of the mountain forever.

1266
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 7: We're not going over the hill and going back down.

1267
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 7: We're just going to stay right here forever. And the

1268
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 7: celebration in Texas was every bit as I'd hoped. Got

1269
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 7: a deer one of the first days. We were able

1270
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 7: to cut the backstraps out and do some chicken fried backstraps,

1271
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 7: where you have sliced the back extraps in the little

1272
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 7: medallions you pound them thin, almost like a schnitzel. You

1273
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Speaker 7: bred them, you fry them, you eat them deliciously with

1274
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 7: some white gravy. It was fantastic, the way we ate,

1275
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 7: the way we drank. We drank quite a few beverages

1276
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 7: when we were down there, butter stuff, quite a few

1277
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 7: bottles in the morning, in the afternoon. Uh, just a

1278
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 7: full day of debauchery and green lights, just the way

1279
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 7: you'd expect for a forty lights.

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Speaker 4: Baby it is.

1281
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Speaker 2: Hey, how did you?

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Speaker 5: Uh, we don't need to divulge all of your seekers,

1283
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 5: but as a Wisconsin boy, how did you? How did

1284
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 5: you find Texas hunting? And what is it about that

1285
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 5: that that you take to because you you do pretty

1286
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 5: regular down there.

1287
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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, it's become an annual trip. I actually believe

1288
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 7: it or not. Col McCoy one of my best friends

1289
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 7: when he was my teammate at his rookie season, I

1290
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 7: was year three or four. For me, we just became,

1291
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 7: you know, buddies we go fishing on any other and

1292
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 7: he took me down there, introduced me to one of

1293
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 7: his friends, and I just became really close with the

1294
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 7: family and one of his buddies. And now my buddy

1295
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 7: who lives in Texas full time. He comes up to

1296
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 7: Wisconsin twice a year and hunts with us, and I

1297
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 7: get to go down there, and it's just totally different

1298
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 7: from everything. You can imagine what I grew up with

1299
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 7: in the Midwest. Hunting down there, it's all small brush

1300
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 7: mesquite trees. They're right on the Rio Grande. So one

1301
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 7: day we always go down to the river and pier

1302
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 7: in New Mexico, go to see the big wall that's

1303
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 7: built or being built down there, and just getting a

1304
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 7: sense of completely a different hunting culture, different part of

1305
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 7: the world. Different food. We're always eating text mex food

1306
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 7: when we're down there, which is obviously different than the

1307
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 7: castroles and hot dish that we always eat when we're

1308
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 7: up here. But it's just joyful, right, Like seventy degrees

1309
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 7: in sunny down there, fifteen degrees back home. Pretty easy

1310
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 7: decision where you want to go sit in the deer

1311
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 7: stand of December.

1312
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: A bit of a no brainer, I would say, is

1313
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: a month of festivities for.

1314
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 4: Your fortieth Yeah, I feel like it's appropriate, not just

1315
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 4: one day, right, I.

1316
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 7: Mean, I think so, it just makes sense. I've started

1317
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 7: the month out right, so I think you might as well.

1318
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 7: Continue from here. There has not been a red light

1319
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 7: that I've found yet, and it continued.

1320
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 4: I don't think you found a red light in twenty

1321
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: twenty four, to be honest with you. I mean from

1322
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 4: the time that you set foot in Munich, it felt

1323
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 4: like it was just free. Even the Ibex in Spain,

1324
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 4: all of it just yeah, and it's appropriate. That's what happens.

1325
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: You get a gold jacket and that buys you at

1326
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 4: least one year of pure green lights.

1327
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: That look like a dang good buck. You got there too.

1328
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: Half down there.

1329
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 7: It was nice. Yeah, it was a great, great year.

1330
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 7: Wasn't as big as the one that I got up

1331
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 7: in Wisconsin, but you know, just doing it in a

1332
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 7: different environment on somebody else's ranch and being able to

1333
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 7: share it with friends is so special. Because a couple

1334
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 7: of my buddies got some nice year as well. And

1335
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 7: kind of sharing in the brotherhood and the family nists together,

1336
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 7: nists the shared bond that you have when you go

1337
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 7: out and sweated out in the Texas brush for a

1338
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 7: little bit and then you come back and tip back

1339
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 7: a few bourbons, a few whiskeys, a few beers. It's

1340
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 7: just a great time. And I don't plan on stop

1341
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 7: at anytime soon because it's just such a great respite

1342
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 7: from the winner that we get up here. So definitely,

1343
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 7: definitely highly recommended my friends.

1344
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 5: Now you do you go full? What type of mount

1345
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 5: do we do on these? Because these are both trophies.

1346
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 5: It looks to me like the one from Wisconsin that's

1347
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 5: a real deal there.

1348
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so shoulder mounts. I'm a big fan of

1349
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 7: putting her up on the wall because then when I'm

1350
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 7: sitting in my farm in my shop, we built a

1351
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 7: big pole barn that's got plenty of wall space for

1352
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 7: all the trophies. You know, as you get older, as

1353
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 7: you can imagine, you guys know what it's like. We

1354
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 7: get older every year, believe it or not, and have

1355
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 7: a little NFL with a little NFL background. Sometimes the

1356
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 7: memory is not as crisp and clear as it used

1357
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 7: to be. But you sit there and you look up

1358
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 7: and you see the mountain on the wall, and it

1359
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 7: immediately all those memories kind of fled back to you,

1360
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 7: not only the deer, the moment, the emotions that you

1361
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 7: had when you're sitting in the stand, but the people

1362
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 7: that you were there with. It's like the best version

1363
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 7: of a photograph. You know, you walk by that photograph

1364
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 7: of a memory, a great time that you had, and

1365
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 7: immediately you feel those same feels, And to me, that's

1366
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 7: what amount is, and so that's why I love no

1367
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 7: matter what it is, right like, having a way to

1368
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 7: remember the hunt is really cool.

1369
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: Have you ever done any European mounts?

1370
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 7: I have? Yeah, I've actually got quite a few, and

1371
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 7: the Red Stag that I shot when I was in Germany.

1372
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 7: I think we're going to do a European mount. And

1373
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 7: the cool thing about European mounts is sometimes the shoulder

1374
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 7: mounts they whack the women out a little bit and

1375
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 7: they're not too keen on putting them in the house.

1376
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: But it's like a.

1377
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 7: Nice European mount with just the skull and the antlers.

1378
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 7: It's actually looks great. And Mama said that we might

1379
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 7: be able to put that in the house.

1380
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1381
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 7: We got a little fireplace near where our pool was,

1382
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 7: and I think it'll be perfect right there. And then

1383
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 7: everyone won't come in and go, hey, what's that? And

1384
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 7: then I get an opportunity tell them about my German experience,

1385
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 7: my boulevard of green lights when I was in Munich

1386
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 7: the last month.

1387
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look it's funny.

1388
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 5: Oh they become like fashion pieces like those you're like

1389
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 5: that you can get like facsimile ones you can buy

1390
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 5: now that they.

1391
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: Sell. Oh yeah, right, exactly.

1392
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 7: Yeah. My sister bought one actually when they were decorating

1393
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 7: their house, and she painted it like gold flack and

1394
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 7: it's I mean, it looks really cool, like it's totally

1395
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 7: different than you know, what you'd see in Grandpa's hunting shack,

1396
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 7: of course, but but it's really cool. It's definitely like

1397
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 7: a little conversation piece, and it's become pretty popular, and

1398
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 7: I'm okay with that. Then I don't get such a

1399
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 7: hard time about spending money on them out.

1400
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 4: What so I'm I obviously we're looking at pictures of

1401
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: this right now. I feel like that would be more

1402
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 4: of a whoa than a shoulder bound. Shoulder bound, It's

1403
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 4: still like there's a regalness to the to what's going

1404
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 4: on there. This is like a little like whoa stark.

1405
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I, Like I said, shoulder mounts, they're good,

1406
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 7: but like you start going any bigger than that, like

1407
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 7: full body, you got two problems.

1408
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: One they're pretty.

1409
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 7: Expensive, but yeah, yeah, where do I put this giant animal.

1410
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 7: So yeah, we're gonna wait for a real special one

1411
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 7: before we make a full body mouth.

1412
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: It's it's not lost on Z though.

1413
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 5: The notion of like I think what it is Z

1414
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 5: is like when it's funny because when you just see

1415
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 5: for those who don't know, European mount is the skull,

1416
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 5: so they there's no fur, there's no flesh, there's nothing,

1417
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 5: just the white skull and then the horns or the antlers,

1418
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 5: and the traditional mount that we see mostly in the

1419
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 5: United States is.

1420
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 6: What Hoff's talking.

1421
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 5: Where you have uh, where it's taxidermy, and you have

1422
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 5: it like the head and the face and all of it.

1423
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 5: And I think, for one thing, and I don't know

1424
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 5: if your wife's this way off mind was this way

1425
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 5: she was like the European one. It doesn't feel like

1426
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 5: I'm looking into the eyes of the animal.

1427
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: Fair. It's less animate, you.

1428
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 4: Will, Yes, it's it's less realistic, even though it is

1429
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: even though it is quite all the more.

1430
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the actual skull.

1431
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. So they sell these at a lot

1432
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 4: of places for about get a little a little forty

1433
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 4: dollar holla, right there, that's not as fun as actually, well,

1434
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: I would imagine we.

1435
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 5: Used to have, I mean before for the I don't

1436
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 5: know what was like for you Hoff growing up, but

1437
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 5: like out on the farm we would have there were there.

1438
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 5: We had antlers everywhere, like some some were mounted, many weren't.

1439
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 5: Because I mean my whole family on Thanksgiving we'd all

1440
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 5: go hunt. I mean it'd be fifteen guys going out

1441
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 5: shooting deer like that was just the way that it was.

1442
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 5: So it's like you weren't mounting them all.

1443
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: There's no way you could, right right.

1444
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 7: And one of the cool things is like in the spring,

1445
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 7: the deer they dropped their antlers. And a really fun

1446
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 7: family activity that we've been doing since the kids were

1447
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 7: little is you go on you do these hikes and

1448
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 7: you chomping through the woods and you're picking up these

1449
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 7: shed deer antlers, which kind of take on a little

1450
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 7: bit of a life of their own.

1451
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: You know.

1452
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 7: The kids if they find one, they'll like sign their

1453
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 7: name on it, what what year was, where they found it,

1454
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 7: and then we put it up on the cabinets in

1455
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 7: the kitchen and then you know, three four years go by,

1456
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 7: you pull it down. You see how like the kids

1457
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 7: sign their name and it's the same thing, like he

1458
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 7: brings back that memory of what it was like when

1459
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 7: the kid stumbled upon an antler, which usually you find

1460
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 7: it and then you're like, hey, Jack, I think there's

1461
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 7: an antler over here.

1462
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: It looks like a really good spot.

1463
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 7: And then pretty soon he kicks it with his foot

1464
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 7: and goes, oh, dad, I found one.

1465
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1466
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 7: But you know, just having those memories that are shared

1467
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 7: with the family and having like a keepsake that's that

1468
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 7: has some value that you're not going to just toss away,

1469
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 7: like you know, most of the junk were buying out

1470
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 7: of China these days. Like those things are pretty cool

1471
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 7: that you know, you can keep around for a long time,

1472
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 7: and they become little conversation pieces, and as the kids

1473
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 7: get older, they they harken back to the days when

1474
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 7: they were little wee lads. I'm sure it was like

1475
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 7: that for you bow on the ranch, like you had

1476
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 7: little memories, little things that you pick up when you

1477
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 7: were a kid that you still would look at or

1478
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 7: your parents would look at, and you know, remind you

1479
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 7: of the good old days.

1480
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 5: Just up the hill from the homestead is Indian burial ground,

1481
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 5: So there's a ring. Indian teepee rings are all over

1482
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 5: in the pasture that's just above the homestead, So we

1483
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 5: would go up there and look for those and look

1484
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 5: for arrowheads and tom.

1485
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: Hawks and that type of stuff. So you find anyheads.

1486
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 5: We definitely found a lot of arrowheads, yeah, when we

1487
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 5: were really little. Yeah, those those we definitely found. My

1488
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 5: dad always claimed he found a tomahawk when he was

1489
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 5: a kid because it was the same place he grew up,

1490
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 5: but I never saw evidence of it, so I think

1491
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 5: he probably was lying.

1492
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, that's cool, my fai. Well, that's part of

1493
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 7: being a country country person, like you got to add

1494
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 7: a little bit to every story.

1495
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 2: A little a little bit. Yeah.

1496
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 7: But my father in law lives on a lake up

1497
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 7: in northern Wisconsin where there obviously used to be a

1498
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 7: lot of Native Americans, and there was a spot that

1499
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 7: they used to go to work on their tools, and

1500
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 7: he actually found this rock that they used to use

1501
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 7: to sharpen or.

1502
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 2: Like make their arrowheads.

1503
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 7: And that was that was one of the coolest things

1504
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 7: I've ever heard anybody found because he see exactly where

1505
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 7: a person like put their hands and used it as

1506
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 7: a tool to like make these arrowheads three four or

1507
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 7: five hundred years ago. So a little stuff like that

1508
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 7: is just cool when you're out wandering around.

1509
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah, it's fun cool, Yeah, a little

1510
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 4: scavenger hunting. Arrowheads are awesome. I think. I like whenever

1511
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 4: I go down to when we're in Arizona and you

1512
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: go and I like going in those shops and like

1513
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 4: seeing all the different arrowheads and seeing all that stuff.

1514
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 4: It's good business, good stuff.

1515
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: Well, we got the chiefs coming in here.

1516
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 4: Speaking up there we go who play.

1517
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 7: An arrow transition right there?

1518
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 4: You like that?

1519
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 3: Like that?

1520
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: That's right.

1521
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 5: Look, they just win every week off. It's not particularly

1522
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 5: pretty always, but they win every week. They're coming in here.

1523
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 5: This backstretch for us is brutal. It's Kansas City, then

1524
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 5: it is Cincinnati on the road, than Miami here, then

1525
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 5: Baltimore on the road. I don't think you want to

1526
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 5: lose your last six games, my friend, as an operation,

1527
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 5: and at the same time that the challenge is robust.

1528
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not easy, but I think sitting where we

1529
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 7: are right no playoffs and you're trying to find out

1530
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 7: about the players on this team, you know, who do

1531
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 7: you want to be around next year? I think having

1532
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 7: tough competition is good, right, hopefully will make people feel

1533
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 7: that level of stress that they need to add to

1534
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 7: their preparation. They need to have laser focus going into

1535
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 7: the games because there are a lot of these games.

1536
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 7: You know, a lot of the country is going to

1537
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 7: be watching, because these are extremely meaningful games for the

1538
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 7: teams certainly that we're playing, and you've got an opportunity

1539
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 7: to hopefully get the best version of all these guys.

1540
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 7: You know, specifically, I'm thinking of Jamis, right, he's going

1541
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 7: to go play against some great defenses down the stretch.

1542
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 7: Can he find a way to continue to be good

1543
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 7: Jamis and then also continue to have the Good Lord

1544
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 7: deliver him from pick sixes and then now maybe just.

1545
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 4: Regular interceptions, yes.

1546
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 7: Just playing old interceptions, and I think then you might

1547
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 7: be able to walk out of that stretch. Maybe we

1548
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 7: win a couple of them, maybe you win more than

1549
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 7: a couple, but you can say, like confidently, we've seen

1550
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 7: progress from week to week with Jamis, and he's finding

1551
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 7: a chemistry with his pass catchers. You're starting to understand

1552
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 7: the parts of the offense that he really likes, and

1553
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 7: maybe some of the stuff that you want to get trimmed,

1554
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 7: and then you can have a really good evaluation in

1555
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 7: the off season of all right, what does this quarterback

1556
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 7: room look like going in the next season.

1557
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 4: Because that's the big question, right, that's the burning question

1558
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 4: we were going through it. You look at the teams

1559
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 4: that are in the playoffs in the AFC, certainly they

1560
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 4: all have quarterbacks of great accomplishment. In the NFC, you've

1561
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: got kind of four of those where he'd say, we've

1562
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 4: got franchise guys, and then three who have been kind

1563
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 4: of on their second, third, or fourth stops even but

1564
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: are playing well in Gino Smith, Baker and Sam Darnold.

1565
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 4: And so that's that's what it's all about, right, I mean,

1566
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 4: you got to find that that position. And for the

1567
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, you know, can Jamis be a guy that

1568
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: gives you a brand of winning football, and you know

1569
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 4: he's playing kind of just like his career numbers would

1570
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 4: suggest he would play. He's kind of we went through

1571
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 4: it earlier, kind of right on them exactly. And so

1572
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 4: you hope that maybe there's still one last little evolution

1573
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 4: there to just take care of the football a little

1574
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 4: bit more, because and you could tell I felt watching

1575
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 4: it hop out about you. But that the pick six,

1576
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 4: the second pick six in Denver lingered with him because

1577
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 4: when he was thrown to the sidelines, he was missing

1578
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: high and wide as if like either there's gonna be

1579
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 4: a miracle catch or it's gonna be in complete, but

1580
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 4: nobody's intercepting it.

1581
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that's the issue that you run

1582
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 7: into when you're a guy that's a little turnover prone.

1583
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 7: It's because he does feel like he could sit it

1584
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 7: in every window and then all of a sudden, when

1585
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 7: he's playing tight and worried about throwing those interceptions, now

1586
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 7: he's not making those tough throws on the sideline that

1587
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 7: are game changing, that change what a defense feels like

1588
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 7: they can get away with. Right if you're dropping dimes

1589
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 7: and you're thrown in the tight windows all day, like,

1590
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 7: defenses have to play you differently and it makes it

1591
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 7: really hard on them, and it opens up the rest

1592
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 7: of the field and it can open up your run game,

1593
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 7: It opens up play action like it does so much

1594
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 7: for you. So you want to be able to still

1595
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 7: get that from Jamis, but just reduce the number of

1596
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 7: boneheaded interceptions. And it's a tough tight rope to walk

1597
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 7: with him, But that's what you want to see, that's

1598
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 7: what you want to see with Ken Dorsey and Kevin Stefanski, hey,

1599
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 7: can we coach this guy so that he can still

1600
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 7: be the Gunslinger, the Brett Farvre without as many of

1601
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 7: the interceptions, Like you're always going to have a few,

1602
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 7: especially if you're thrown in the slight windows and you're

1603
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 7: throwing the ball as much as we throw, But can

1604
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 7: you have the ones like on the screen pass where

1605
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 7: it was just like, that's not one you need to throw,

1606
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 7: or you need to find a way to just throw

1607
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 7: it into the dirt, throw it a little bit higher,

1608
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 7: live to see another down right, Those are the ones

1609
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 7: that you really want to eliminate. And I think it's

1610
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 7: a mindset thing, and I think I have a lot

1611
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 7: of belief in Dorsey and Kevin Stefanski that they can

1612
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 7: continue to work with him in a measured way to

1613
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 7: continue to work on those split second decisions, and you

1614
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 7: hope a little bit of experience against great competition that

1615
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 7: he'll be able to make some more of those good

1616
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 7: decisions and then for his teammates positively reinforcing him when

1617
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 7: he makes those decisions. Right, Let's say on that screen

1618
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 7: pass that Candle Benton picked off, he dirts it because he.

1619
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 4: Sees Benton falling off.

1620
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 7: You want to see everybody in that offensive huddle going

1621
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 7: back and being like, great job, Jamis, that was a

1622
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 7: great decision, So that he's not only being positive reinforced

1623
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 7: when he makes a great throw and it's into a

1624
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 7: tight window and it was a great decision, but he's

1625
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 7: also being reinforced when hey, sometimes a throwaway into the

1626
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 7: stands is the best thing possible, and you want to

1627
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 7: make sure that he's feeling that positive reinforcement in his

1628
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 7: mind so that he can continue to build good habits

1629
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 7: and continue to make those improvements. You want to see

1630
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:42,839
Speaker 7: down the stretch.

1631
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 5: If I want to, let's zoom out and do a

1632
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 5: big picture NFL thing. I'm curious your view of what

1633
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 5: Detroit this run that they've been on of just dominance

1634
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 5: they've gotten through the last couple of weeks. Beat the

1635
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 5: Bears twenty three to twenty, then beat the Packers thirty

1636
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 5: four to thirty one. They host the Bills this week,

1637
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 5: and Buffalo put on a show. They lost, albeit in

1638
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 5: LA but put on a show with the Rams and

1639
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 5: Stafford over the weekend. But these are two teams that

1640
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 5: have been kind of the best over the last month.

1641
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 5: In Detroit for a long time. Where are you on

1642
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 5: how Dan Campbell ought to coach this last month because

1643
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 5: they're going to wrap up home field. They've only got

1644
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 5: a game lead on Philly, however, but whenever they whatever,

1645
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 5: they wrap that up, do you rest or? It just

1646
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 5: feels like they're going every week just win win win.

1647
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 5: Is that sustainable? What do you think of their approach?

1648
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 7: I like their approach, And one thing I think is

1649
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 7: that whoever you are, you want to stay that same team,

1650
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 7: right because it's really hard to turn that switch on

1651
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 7: and off. It's it would be easy to say, hey,

1652
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 7: down the stretch, especially once we have everything wrapped up,

1653
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 7: like all right, let's just play our guys in the

1654
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 7: first quarter. Let's just play them a little bit, take

1655
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 7: our foot off the gas. But I think if you

1656
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 7: do that, it's hard to put the foot back on

1657
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 7: the gas when you do get to the playoffs and

1658
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 7: you do get into those high pressure situations. So I

1659
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 7: think you just keep pouring it on. Like obviously, injuries

1660
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 7: can dictate you maybe want to change things, Like let's

1661
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 7: say there was some injuries on the offensive line for

1662
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 7: whatever reason. Now you're having a hard time protecting golf Okay,

1663
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 7: maybe maybe you need to have a different calculus, but

1664
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 7: I think you just need to be the same team

1665
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 7: that got you to this point, because it would be

1666
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 7: too hard to go and pivot and then hit the

1667
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 7: gas again if you did try to rest guys down

1668
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 7: the stretch. And I think when you look at NFL

1669
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 7: playoffs and Super Bowl champions, a lot of times the

1670
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 7: teams that win are the teams that get hot in December,

1671
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 7: right because and it's close, like they need to win

1672
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 7: every game in the last three to be able to

1673
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 7: make it in. And then when they make it in,

1674
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 7: like they're rolling, they're playing their best football. And I

1675
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 7: think that momentum and the way people prepare and they

1676
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 7: play when everything's on the line on every snap, I

1677
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 7: think it's a good way to hit the playoffs because

1678
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 7: then that's what you're going to get. It's really it

1679
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 7: takes time, and it's really hard to get to that

1680
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 7: slow state that you would be in as a team

1681
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 7: to be to go run the playoffs and then win

1682
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl. And I think the only way

1683
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 7: you get there is by keeping the pedal to the

1684
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 7: metal all the way through December.

1685
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 4: How if I want to ask you about you know,

1686
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 4: we've seen Dan Campbell. Do you know when we saw

1687
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 4: it last year in the NFC Championship going for some

1688
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 4: of the fourth downs he did did not go well.

1689
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: We're seeing obviously a lot more go well for him

1690
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 4: this year on those fourth downs. But just from an

1691
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 4: offensive perspective, when you know that if we get to

1692
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 4: like if we get nine yards on the first three downs,

1693
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: we're going to go for it. Sometimes even if we

1694
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 4: get eight, how does that change you know, your play

1695
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 4: calling or what you're able to do as an offense.

1696
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 7: So this was an interesting, really season long conversation we

1697
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 7: had when I was in Munich, because I'm much much

1698
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,839
Speaker 7: like Dan Campbell, where it's like, hey, if it's fourth

1699
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 7: down and it's three or less and for anywhere near midfield,

1700
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 7: even on our own forty, Like basically, if we don't

1701
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 7: get it, as long as they are out of field

1702
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 7: goal range right away and it's fourth and four, fourth

1703
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 7: and three or less, we should go for it. And

1704
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 7: we should know that as part of our DNA because

1705
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 7: and this was what me and my offensive coordinator Cal

1706
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 7: Callahan would always say is like, if I know I

1707
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 7: have four plays to get ten yards, I might call

1708
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 7: my first and second and third down plays a little

1709
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 7: bit different, and I don't have to worry because if

1710
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 7: it's third and six and I know the defense is

1711
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 7: going to be defending the sticks, well let's throw one

1712
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 7: or two yard pass, try to gain a couple of yards,

1713
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 7: and then have a play dialed up like a quick

1714
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 7: quarterback sneak. This is what New England did forever with

1715
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 7: Tom Brady, Like as soon as you get the fourth

1716
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 7: and one, before you even give the defense a chance

1717
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 7: to substitute or think about what's going on, you get

1718
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 7: up your quarterback sneak it. You get the first down.

1719
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 7: Now you got a new set of downs, and you're

1720
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 7: playing like it never happened. I think that mindset, I

1721
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 7: think it's so valuable to a play caller to an offense,

1722
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 7: and I think it gives a ton of momentum and

1723
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 7: confidence to an entire offense one because I think if

1724
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 7: you do go for a lot of those fourth and shorts,

1725
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 7: you're gonna get really good at it and your chances

1726
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 7: of success continue to go up. But then there's no

1727
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 7: panic on your side of the ball. Right. I've seen

1728
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 7: it so many times in my career where you're a

1729
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 7: team that doesn't go for it a lot on fourth down,

1730
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, when you need to go for it,

1731
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 7: everybody's booty hole is all puckered up because it's like,

1732
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Speaker 7: holy cow, we're really going for it. This must be

1733
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 7: a big thing. We need to get this. And then

1734
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 7: what happened. Somebody jumps off sides. I can't remember what

1735
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 7: game it was this weekend, maybe in our game. Shoot,

1736
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 7: I watched too much football this week I can't remember,

1737
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 7: but it was like one of those situations where you

1738
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 7: get to the goal line. It was fourth down, and all

1739
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 7: of a sudden, one of your vets on the O

1740
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 7: line jumps off sides because.

1741
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 6: He's at that moment third and one was Colin all right.

1742
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: In my mind, that's what it was.

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01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 7: That I wasn't sure enough because I couldn't remember if

1744
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 7: it was one of the other games I watched. But

1745
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 7: I think if you're a team that that's just who

1746
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 7: you are. It's just another day at the office when

1747
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 7: it's fourth and one in the games online, because you've

1748
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 7: been doing it so often, and I think it really

1749
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 7: plays to your advantage over a defense that maybe isn't

1750
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 7: in those situations quite as often.

1751
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Speaker 5: Hauff a privilege and a pleasure. Thank you for regalling

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Speaker 5: us with your stories. Uh, it brings a warm smile

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Speaker 5: to our faces. Happy birthday, buddy. May the festivities continue

1754
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Speaker 5: through that, I mean the entire Yes, really there's a

1755
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Speaker 5: reason to stop it.

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Speaker 7: Well, guys, I really appreciate it, and I'll make sure

1757
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Speaker 7: to tell Annie that you guys have said, do not

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Speaker 5: great clips, Great clip of the game, great clips, It's

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Speaker 5: going to be great. Here's Jerry Judy's thirty five yard

1786
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 5: in the first.

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01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 4: On a third and nine for the back Winston the gun.

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01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: As the ball steps up in the pocket, he may

1789
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 4: run now throwing. What's Judy? Has it touched down?

1790
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 5: Jerry Judy thirty five yards James on the run as

1791
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 5: he got to the line of scrimmage, let it go.

1792
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 6: Judy caught it at the five and waltzed.

1793
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 4: Into the end zone. What does he do so well?

1794
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,560
Speaker 16: We've been talking about it it's that pocket movement and

1795
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 16: he escapes up to the left on that forty five

1796
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 16: degree both hands on the ball, eyes down the field,

1797
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 16: and where does he see the hottest receiver in the NFL,

1798
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 16: Jerry Judy for six.

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01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: Oh baby, good job. You know it's beautiful. Is you

1800
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 2: got a little context on the highlight?

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01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 5: Little color movement, little color, little little commentary, little color,

1802
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 5: little color by play and then the play and then

1803
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 5: the little color you get the full context.

1804
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1805
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

1806
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: Job felt pretty great. You can see it in my

1807
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 4: mind's eye.

1808
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 5: Give me gieve just so you were for those of

1809
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 5: you who are not watching on the street. As soon

1810
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 5: as we start playing it, Sigura turns and stares at

1811
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 5: g Man. Man puts his hand on his chin and

1812
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 5: just stares back emotionless. Yeah, forget as you and I

1813
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 5: celebrate fists in the air with the fact that he

1814
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 5: did it right, ready to pronounce him the G Man.

1815
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 4: Before, when it was nearing the point where it was

1816
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 4: make or break either, I was gonna go, yeah, give

1817
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 4: me one of these.

1818
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 5: Like the whole Oh baby, go ahead and take a

1819
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 5: let's take a listen, And then over his left shoulders,

1820
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 5: Gibbe just shaking his head.

1821
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,959
Speaker 2: No, it was amazing.

1822
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 6: It's like, let's do let's do a little brother is

1823
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,879
Speaker 6: five seconds of airtime because he threw a temper tantrum

1824
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 6: last week. Let's give him a little bit of airtime.

1825
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: Got in.

1826
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 6: Good job, little good job.

1827
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: Nobody likes bullies.

1828
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 6: Give it.

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01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 2: Hey, what are we gonna do? We gotta we have

1830
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: a uh clerical question on the over unders.

1831
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: Give him the highest scoring Steeler, Friarmuth. Does it matter?

1832
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 4: Was already in so for Pickens, So it.

1833
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 5: Was give you guys went all the same on the

1834
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 5: rest of it. I went and you had browns. He

1835
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 5: had Steelers. So it was Nase Pickens and Friarmouth versus Chubb,

1836
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 5: Judy Chief. So my feeling was we give it to

1837
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 5: the next highest receiver.

1838
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 6: Give them think I could win, no matter what could

1839
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 6: I and Farmuth both had touchdowns?

1840
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but so did she and Michael Is thirty Scotty

1841
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 4: Miller's thirty eight yards, Nick Chubb forty eight.

1842
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 6: Sorry, the pride of bowling Green.

1843
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: How'd you guys do this week?

1844
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 5: You both got that both russ under yep, you both missed.

1845
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 5: Jamis passing yards as a girl one. Yep, Browns over

1846
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 5: Steelers sacks three and a half.

1847
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 4: New negative believe we had one sack and no turnovers

1848
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 4: or one takeaway, so we had two. Yeah, we needed

1849
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 4: needed and then the forty three and a half was

1850
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 4: forty one. Forty one doesn't matter, the scoreboard says this.

1851
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: So Gibbe went one and four and you went two and.

1852
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 4: Three thirty three thirty three with four weeks to go,

1853
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:23,520
Speaker 4: said he suck. It's it's a dead heat even steven even,

1854
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 4: So we all what did we? We got two? Right,

1855
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 4: So it's thirty four thirty four. Yeah, it's thirty Yeah,

1856
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 4: you went you're thirty four.

1857
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 6: Well, no, I'm up one still No, No.

1858
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 5: You went, you're thirty four and three, thirty thirty four

1859
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 5: and thirty one. You're above five hundred. You're thirty four

1860
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 5: and thirty one because you won two miss three and

1861
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 5: Gibbe got one. So he's thirty four and uh.

1862
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 4: Same with the same. We should be the same, I

1863
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 4: don't think.

1864
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 6: So.

1865
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were coming in this week and I got

1866
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 4: two and you got one.

1867
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 6: So that no, last week we tied.

1868
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you were up one. Yeah, yeah, Gibe, you're even.

1869
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 5: Now we're both you're both thirty four wins thirty five

1870
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 5: with four exactly right's thirty four.

1871
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 2: You're both overall is the.

1872
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 5: Record, So you're above five hundred on that side of things.

1873
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 5: That's the way that that shakes out.

1874
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, do they do.

1875
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:10,879
Speaker 4: Pro the way solid scores?

1876
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: Again, it's very solid scores.

1877
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 4: Very solid, and it's unbelievable our ability to split games

1878
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 4: that we don't both. So I got Green Bay, you

1879
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 4: got Jacksonville, which I and I did not the other

1880
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 4: ones we split. You got Tampa. Tamp Vegas was looking

1881
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 4: pretty good until O'Connell got hurt. They were looking pretty

1882
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 4: good till O'Connell got hurt. But then I came back

1883
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 4: and got the Rams and I got the Niners, which

1884
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 4: Pedro is very sad, and then we both got charged.

1885
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 4: So I think we're let's say one two right now,

1886
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 4: you're seven up and there's only you are. It's both

1887
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 4: winning weeks like seven and eight is what we're both at.

1888
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 2: We're good, we're in a good spot.

1889
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 4: And we got and we have a game tonight we

1890
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 4: do so we get good. We have a potential for

1891
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 4: a nine and four, eight and five week.

1892
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 2: You're welcome. I mean, I don't know what to do,

1893
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 2: Like you know.

1894
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 4: This is typically in years past. Yeah, we have raced

1895
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 4: out and then kind of held on, and then this

1896
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 4: year it was slow and then.

1897
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Lifting to dig out and we yeah, we're crushing it.

1898
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely we are. You're welcome. It's the holiday season.

1899
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 5: Here to help kids, here to help. We will pick

1900
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 5: the Monday Night or coming up next. You're listening to

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Speaker 6: Hello Gibbe, gentlemen, we have Monday Night foosball. There's something

1911
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 6: with the Simpsons and ESPN to night. Is there a

1912
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 6: manning cast tonight?

1913
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: Let me there's a.

1914
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 2: Lot to Let me just say this is this too much?

1915
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 6: I think we might be getting to that point.

1916
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 4: Does the Simpsons want to try to get kids.

1917
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 2: In a lot of platforms and a lot of our

1918
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 2: kids watching the Simpsons.

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01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 6: I love the Simpsons.

1920
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 5: You have never seen an episode you and I've never

1921
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 5: seen an episode of it. My brothers liked it perfect,

1922
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 5: I guess, I mean my brothers liked it, but I'm

1923
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 5: aware of it. I know the characters, but I've never

1924
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 5: like sat down and watch an episode this is there's

1925
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 5: more of a south Park. By the way, this is

1926
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 5: their last regular season manning cast.

1927
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: Well, that's an odd choice.

1928
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 6: Well, there's not any There's not a Monday night the

1929
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 6: final week, so.

1930
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 4: And they don't want to work with the holidays. The

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01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 4: next one will be the wild card, says guest TBD.

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01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure we can find it. What's it on my

1933
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 4: huh Oh?

1934
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: They got Collinsworth tonight?

1935
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, collins Worth is on, and I think Belichick

1936
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 5: obviously gets well.

1937
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 6: Then I can tell you the Bengals, the Northern Kentucky

1938
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 6: Bengals are on the road down south in Big d

1939
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 6: in Dallas. Seth Walder from ESPN. Chance to make the

1940
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 6: playoffs with a win tonight Bengals three percent, Cowboys two percent.

1941
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 6: The Bengals have activated Cade York in advance of Tonight's

1942
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 6: matchup with Dallas bo Bishop.

1943
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 5: Just feels like, in a season where very little has

1944
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 5: gone right, if you are Jamar Chase and you were

1945
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 5: playing in that stadium with that star, that you're gonna

1946
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Speaker 5: ball out. I think fast track for the Bengals. I

1947
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Speaker 5: think they handle their business.

1948
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Speaker 2: Easily.

1949
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Speaker 5: Huge Bengals, Bengals Huge.

1950
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Speaker 4: All right, you've convinced me by the way guest Tonight Belichick,

1951
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Speaker 4: John Legend, Chris Collinsworth on the Manic from Springfield.

1952
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Speaker 2: So that could be it. Maybe it's a Life On

1953
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: Bengals fan or something like that.

1954
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Speaker 4: All Right, there you go. It's I like, just let

1955
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Speaker 4: this game be a fun shootout.

1956
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Speaker 2: I think it'll be fun.

1957
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Speaker 5: I mean, it feels like the most they want in

1958
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Speaker 5: the air. So and maybe Dallas will too. We'll see

1959
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Speaker 5: either way. We'll be back here tomorrow to reflect on

1960
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Speaker 5: all of it. The next levels coming up next.

1961
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Speaker 2: Thanks for listeningbody Cleveland Rounds Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1962
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1963
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