1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Warning today's episode. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Okay, spoilers for the shocking, shocking episode of AGAs All Along, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Dark and stour Wakni. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: Power gets spoiled. Don't get spoiled. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Spoiled folks, watch that, then listen to this. 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 4: Hello. 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcion. 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: And I'm Rosey Nike, and welcome back to X Ray. 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: Vision of the podcast where we dive deep. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: It's your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture coming 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: from iHeart Podcast where. 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: We're breaking you. 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Two episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday. Sometimes three episodes, 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: sometimes three, sometimes fall Just keep an eye on your feet. 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: In today's episode. In the previously on, James Gun finally confirmed. 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: Some LANs. So many space cops, so many space corps, 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 3: I feel. Let's we'll talk about that a little bit. Yeah, 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: what the hell happened with Uza Mark? The Internet's asking it, 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: We're asking it. We've been asking it in our group chat. 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: Everybody's feeling sad. We've got a bit more info about that. 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: And in the airlock it's the darkest hour of Agatha 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: All Along yet and somebody's power awoke and another croaked. 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about which is which is which 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: is Witches and of course that big final moment revealed. 25 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: But first previously on Lots of Cops cast Green lanternsting, 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: James Gun spent the weekend of Joker Fallout trying to 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: take your eye off the ball by dragging you. 28 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 3: Very clever. 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: What of news about Green Lantern casting? Gun is officially 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: confirmed that Kyle Chandler, everybody's favorite football coach, will be 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: portraying Hell in the HBO drama and good casting for 32 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: how I think it's a great casting. They've announced that 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: rebel Ridge and old star Aaron Pierre rebel. 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Ridge awesome, watch, Wow, We'll. 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: Play John Stewart. Wonderful news. I think this is great casting. 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Rosie, Okay, great casting. 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: But I gotta say, look, I am not a fan 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: of the Green Lantons just being space cops. I think 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: it is not the most imaginative version of their power. 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: I think that there is. Look, for example, John Stewart 41 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: was originally an architect, which is like the best vision 42 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: you could have for being a Green lantin your will 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: can create anything. You're an architect. Then Jeff John's reimagined 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: him and suddenly he is a military guy a cop. 45 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. I'm not exactly like chomping 46 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: at the bit for like a true detective style Green 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: Lantin show. But you know what, I'm gonna give James 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: Gunn the benefit of the doubt. I believe it is 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: Damon Lindlaugh and Tom King. So you take that as 50 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: you will. That could be a positive or a negative 51 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: depending on how you feel about them. But it is 52 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: all star casting. And I gotta say I think Kyle 53 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: Chandler how Jordan is like one of the top tier 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: DC castings. 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I agree, I think that is like up there. 56 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: And I think Aaron Pierre, He's great, needs more work. 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: It makes so much sense. I feel like the timing 58 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: of like I know that James Gunn said he was, 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, obviously casting as an arduous process and Aaron 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: Pierre were only went through it apparently did a lot 61 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: of casting. But also I'm like, after rebel Ridge comes out, 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: if you're doing this version of The Green Lanterns where 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: they have to solve a dark Earth based murder mystery, 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: I feel like rebel Ridge, You're like, this man is 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: John Stewart, Like give just cast him now? So Yeah, 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: fantastic casting on both sides. I hope I can be 67 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: pleasantly surprised by the Space Cops. But let's see, I 68 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be very interesting. And Jason, I think 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: you made a very good point that this was the 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: castings had been rumored for quite a long time, though 71 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: that Aaron Pierre one had not been confirmed, so I 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: think this was very much like The timing was great. Yeah, 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: the timing was very hilarious, so good. And also can 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: we mention that I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Nathan 75 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: Fillian's Guy Gardner, my favorite Green Lantern will be not 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: only in Superman twenty twenty five, but also in this 77 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: Green Lantern Corps show. I'm not sure which one will 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: come first, but that will be an interesting tone shift 79 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: for a series like this. So yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: color be intrigued, Colorie Green Lantern up next? 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: Who's a Marquis the the fantastic first episodes of the 82 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: of the legendary Horror manga, and we were raving about 83 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: the animation style. 84 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: And production nig And then, by the way, can I 85 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: just say we were only sent the first episode? Understand why. 86 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: Two eager to get back in. 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: I see it in my up next Q on Max 88 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: and I'm like, we just what I found my Like, 89 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: my my resolution on my app was set to what 90 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: happened and go online And it turns out a lot 91 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: of people are complaining about this Rosie what happened? 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: Okay, So we have yet to have like an official 93 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: Max statement, and we probably won't get one, but it 94 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: sounds like as usual, it was exacts not understanding how 95 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: time consuming an expensive great animation is. The first episode 96 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: was produced by Production IG, who made Ghosts in the 97 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: show and the recent very critically acclaimed Terminate Zero anime, 98 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: which is obviously stunning from what we're seeing and reporting 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: from Polygon and Uza Maki Usamaki is telling us this 100 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: virals are telling us and Gizmoto. Basically, what happened was 101 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: the execs saw the first episode, saw how expensive and 102 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: how long it took, even though by the way, this 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: was a five year production even with the time cutting, 104 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: so I feel like we could have just waited a 105 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: bit longer. But they saw the first episode and they say, oh, 106 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: we can do this for cheaper and for better, cheaper, quicker, 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: and nobody will notice the difference, of course, that was 108 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 3: not the case, and the only kind of real confirmed 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: statements we have is from Adult Swim executive producer Jason DeMarco, 110 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: who posted on Blue Sky before deleting. 111 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: It, which means it must be, which means. 112 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: Truth definitely true if they made him delete it. So 113 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: he said, I can't talk about what went down, but 114 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: we were screwed over. The options were A not finish 115 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: and air nothing and call it a loss. B just 116 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: finish an air episode one and leave it incomplete. I'm 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: gonna say, I think you should have just done that. 118 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: It would gone down as one of the most legendary 119 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: like why wasn't it finished? 120 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: But at least we've got that done that and it 121 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: leaves you the option to finish it. 122 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and see run all four wat's and all 123 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: out of respect for the hard work we chose. See. 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: I appreciate the hard work. I want these animators to 125 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: get paid. But like you say, do I think that 126 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: if they had just released episode one on Max and 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: everyone had gone, oh my god, this is so incredible, 128 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: we want it and it got millions of views, or 129 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: however they mysteriously and enigmatically judge success at streaming spaces. 130 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: I think there is a world where you would have 131 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: got to finish it at potentially that high level if production. 132 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: I still wanted to work with you. I mean I 133 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: literally watched that first episode with Oliver Ono, my artistic 134 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: collaborator in Ohio, at like one in the morning on 135 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: his massive, like seventy inch HDTV, and we were watching 136 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: it and we were like, this is so unbelievable, Like 137 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: our minds are blown. How did they do it? 138 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Man like? 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: And to see an artist responding in that way, like 140 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: I knew I was watching something that was very special, 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: like it wasn't just my fandom of Ginginito. And I 142 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: just think I feel really sad for the people who 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: put in a lot of work, and especially because of 144 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: the nature of the Internet, it was very easy for 145 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: fans to quickly make, you know, comparative side by sides. 146 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: And I also hope that this is a lesson to 147 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: an exec somewhere whoever was the person who did this. 148 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna blame David Zaslav, but he is in charge. 149 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: People care about animation and Warner Brothers has for many years. 150 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: As Jason put it on a podcast, we will be 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: guesting on Soon. They've been cleaning Marvel's clock, They've been 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: cleaning everyone's clock. When it comes to making interesting animated programming, 153 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: whether it's on Rick and Morty, whether it is uh 154 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: DC movies that they're still releasing that people still go 155 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: out and buy on DVD, whether it's Apocalypse or whether 156 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: it is this first episode of Ozumaki. Don't lose that 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: legacy because of cost cutting. And I think the episode two, 158 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm not looking forward to seeing episode three and four. 159 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: Let's say that, because I think if that's the second episode, 160 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: it probably only gets worse from here. 161 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: Next up, your former Superman Henry cavill is joining the 162 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: live action Vultron movie, coming to you on Amazon Prime Video. 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: This is a mad Libs headline. I was like, sure, 164 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: really is okay? 165 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: Also starring in the live action Vultron is Daniel Quintoy, 166 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: who is Tom Holland's understudy for Romeo and Julian in 167 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 2: the West End. 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: Mad Libs excited to see what this is. Big fan 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: of Voltron when I was a kid. 170 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm interested that this is on Amazon because, if I'm 171 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: not mistaken, the most recent and very beloved at comic 172 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: cons and in Fantom spaces version of Voltron was the 173 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: Netflix animated version that I think was maybe made by DreamWorks. 174 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: But that is like an unbelievable show that completely recontextualized 175 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: the fandom. So I find it interesting that Amazon's doing it. 176 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's not going to have anything to do 177 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: with that, even though I would assume that the IP 178 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: is by the same person. But yeah, this will be interesting. 179 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I like giant robots and I love space. 180 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, what will Henry Carve will be doing. I 181 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: don't know, because I feel like Vultron Like people who 182 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: fly Vultrons and are in this are usually like kids. 183 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: But maybe he's the boss of the Vaultrons. Please please 184 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: put your critiques of how I just talked about Voltron 185 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: in the x ray Vision Goggles channel, because I'm sure 186 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: that you don't drive a Vultron. I'm sure there's like 187 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: a correct way of talking about But yes, this is 188 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: a very mad Libs headline. Did not see it coming, 189 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: but sure will. I would love to see it, and 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: Amazon has enough money to make a very pretty robot, 191 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 192 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: Up next Agathon. 193 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: AGAs episode five, Darkest Our Week Ye Power are directed 194 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: by Rachel Goldberg, written by Laura Monty. We open in 195 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: the woods with various animals emerging from the mist and 196 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: from the from the dewy grass and dirt, and from 197 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: behind the trees a fox, a raven, a snake, and 198 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: it's the Seven Witches. They turn into their human forums 199 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: and they be in searching for. 200 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: Very James, wandj. 201 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: Lilia then wakes from a dream. They've all been napping 202 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 2: on the road and she has apparently seen this arrival 203 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: of the Seven, and she warns the coven that the 204 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: Salem Seven are coming for revenge against Agatha because when 205 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: she killed her original coven, apparently she spared the children. 206 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: What a what a wonderful, magnanimous. 207 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: Wow, she's so nice. 208 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the children of the of the witches who she slayed, 209 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: and now they are here in their help for blood. 210 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely not a mistake that we've seen happen in 211 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: many I mean, like, that's like the Bride leaving a 212 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: fox's kid dead and kill Bill one he make that movie, 213 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: Quentin Tarantino. 214 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: They're hot on the heels of our coven and so 215 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: the gals plus teen need a way to flee, so 216 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: they decide, okay, brooms and they pull up these roots 217 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: that are huge roots from the trees that are kind. 218 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: Of sounds like a very funny esthetic choice because it's 219 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: definitely not your usual vision of a broomstick, but you 220 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: know what, I'm into it. 221 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: And after a bit of kind of cultural critique about 222 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: why brooms fell out of favor with modern day, which 223 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: they take to the air. 224 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: Okay, important thing to note here, Billy gets a broom. 225 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Billy gets a broom. 226 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: He and Alice, they do the little hex have to 227 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: have that, and they give it. They trade you have 228 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: to have the broom given to you. And he says, 229 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: do I really get one? And she's as well, if 230 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: you give one to me. So this is kind of 231 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: a hint of where teen slash Billy's story is going 232 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: to be going this episode, because remember he has only 233 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: been seen as a familiar until this point. He hasn't 234 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: gone to do any magic, so. 235 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: No magic of his own until this point. 236 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no magic of his own. And I love seeing 237 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: them flying in the sky. They were all very invigorated. 238 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: It's like very empowering for them. 239 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: I love flying in front of this blood red moon, 240 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: huge moon with the seven hot on their tails. But 241 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: then the road. The magic of the road forces them 242 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: back down to basically just above ground level, and the 243 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Witch of the Salem seven appears before them, but turns 244 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: into a cloud of insects. 245 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: They fly through the cloud. 246 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 2: Of insects, ry and seeing the next trialhouse, this kind 247 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: of spooky cabin in the woods up ahead, they rush 248 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: inside and close the door and they are all transformed 249 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: into basically like cast members of an eighties summer camp 250 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: slasher film. 251 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 3: Yeah it's a slasher movie. I was feeling very cater 252 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: too here. 253 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, very evil dead, very Friday the thirteenth, Yeah, very 254 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: evil dead. 255 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: And super producer Aaron did mention that we also get 256 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: here one of the best Aubrey moments. I mean, when 257 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: is she not the best? But as they go down 258 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: towards the being taken down by the Witch's Road, she 259 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: does this cackle that is like up there with the 260 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: best witch's cackles that we've seen, and it is whoo 261 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: so good. 262 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: So they know they know. 263 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: The deal by now where's the clue? They got to 264 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: find the clue? Can the spell book help? 265 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: Now? 266 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: The teen says teen, who recently showed that he has 267 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: some magic in him, If you can run room and 268 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden like, oh, my Spellbook's gone. 269 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: I must have lost it when we were flying. Let's 270 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: put a pin in this. But I just want to say, 271 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: on second watch, after yes, watching the entire thing, I 272 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: now wonder if I believe him that he would have Oh. 273 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: You don't even think he lost it. I like that 274 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: read because I will say, Look, I'm a I'm a 275 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: wonder apologist, and that makes me a Billy apologist. 276 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Billy has a lot to be mad about. Yes, 277 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: you are right if he is Billy Tea, you know, but. 278 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: We'll know by the end of this step. 279 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 280 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: So I will also say in the Billy theory camp, 281 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: he is wearing Billy's clothes. He's basically wearing exactly the 282 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: same Halloween costume we saw kid Billy wear in Wonder Vision. 283 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: So they're really giving us some hints here. And yeah, 284 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: I think you're right. I watched it again this morning, 285 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: and I think he's lying. I think he has the 286 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: spell book. I think he started to realize, and he 287 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: really gets this kind of horrible realization by the end 288 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: of the episode, but I think he started to realize 289 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: that to survive the witch's road to survive this coven, 290 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: even though yeah, you have to work together, you have 291 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: to look out for yourself. And I think he started 292 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: to realize that. 293 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: So this is Agathu's trial, they realize, and they realize 294 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: that she will have to communicate with the dead. And 295 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: on cue, a wija board pops out of a little 296 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: magazine holder and flops out onto the table, and the 297 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: team goes in, takes out the Parker Brothers rule book 298 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: and begins to read it down the various rules. 299 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Don't troll the dead, don't tease them. 300 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Can we put a pin in this? I gotta ask 301 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: as an english person, right, yes, what is it with 302 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: Americans and wigia boards? Because you can't just go into 303 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: like a Woolworths in England and buy a wija board. 304 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: You have to make that yourself. You cannot just that 305 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: is not just like a kid's game in England, Like 306 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: it has never been that way. I find it. It 307 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: blows my mind every time I see it and Target 308 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: and I just I really love that they use it 309 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: here because I'm like, scare those kids. I'm like, don't 310 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: be doing a wigia board, Like, just don't do it, 311 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: guys And don't make it a kid. 312 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Is it a game? 313 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: I think you know, we love our entertainment here in 314 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: the States, and the after life is just another form 315 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: of entertainment. 316 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: Just another step to be another place to be entertained. 317 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: So the team reads the rules and among them are 318 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: don't make fun of the dead, don't talk about death, don't. 319 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: Which is also very funny. Now we're kind of hearing 320 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 3: these rumors about certain things. So that was a great line. 321 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: I loved that. 322 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: Let each other speak, don't talk over each other, which 323 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: is going to be a problem for this group. And 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: end every session, end every session with goodbye. And also 325 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: never take your hands off of the plant chet because 326 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: if you're in the middle of a phone call with 327 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: the spirit and somebody takes their hand off, then the 328 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: spirit is out loosed from the bottle and is just 329 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: running around in the real world. Okay, so they start 330 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: what spirit they wonder, we'll present themselves. 331 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: And. 332 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: Something appears to take over Agatha. She's like spinning her 333 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: hair and and it's missus Hart it spells heart and 334 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: and Agatha is speaking doing it is she speaking and. 335 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Through missus Hart voice? 336 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: Or is an oppression She's talking about? Like how she's 337 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: upset that she's dead and she had this very normal 338 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: life and it was boring. 339 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: And then we rude about her. That's when we know. 340 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: She's like, I was drinking before noon. 341 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: And then Jen's like, this is just Agatha. 342 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: Agatha is just improving. 343 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: She's just improving. And also I just want to say 344 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: I love everyone in our discord who when it was 345 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: spelling this out, did not think about missus Hart. They 346 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: thought it said mister Sharp, and I love all of 347 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: you because. 348 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: That's hilarious, and mister speak to us. 349 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: To us, and as as somebody you know teen, as 350 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: Teen rightfully points out, another reason you know it's not 351 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: missus Heart is because that's not her name. That's the 352 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: name Agatha gave her. That's the name Wanda gave her. 353 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: So it's just not her. It's not mister sh either. 354 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: Sorry to that man, sadly not, it's not. 355 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: John and what just needs to talk about it. 356 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 3: He's got to talk about it. And also I want 357 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: to say this is, I mean, we get so much 358 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: great Katherine Hahn in this season, but this little performance 359 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 3: she does here where she's Agatha pretending to be Missus 360 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: Hart to trick the rest of her coven. This just 361 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: shows how lucky they are to have Catherine Hahn like there. 362 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: This whole episode is just a golden just just proof 363 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: of why they lucked out with this casting and also hilarousy. 364 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: I realize now, after watching many incredible videos of Aubrey 365 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: plas are talking about living with Patti Lapoon, I now 366 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: realized that Patty obviously just did this because she loves Aubrey. 367 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: So I'm like a huge fan of this. The Aubrey 368 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 3: was probably just like Patty, I want to do this, 369 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: and Patty is like, yes, darling, you're on the stage now, 370 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: and I will support you in whatever you want, including 371 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: this Marvel TV show. Like, I absolutely love this, and 372 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: I just think this cost is a blessing. But yes, 373 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Catherine Hahn, she's doing her best. Agatha's doing her best. Obviously. 374 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 3: Agatha is actually terrified of speaking to the dead, and 375 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: will realize there's a reason for that. 376 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: So they started again, and now the punchet starts moving 377 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: again and they ask who is there, and it spells 378 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: out death, which they're not supposed to talk about. So 379 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: this is a little bit of a gray area here. 380 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: Death keeps spelling out punish p U n I s 381 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: h p un as punished, pune punish. 382 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: Who do you want punished? They ask Agatha. 383 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: It spells out, but before it could really get to 384 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: the final a and Aga, the Agatha is like. 385 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: No, stop it, and she takes her hand off the 386 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: plunch jet. 387 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: I get that, come on, supposed to do that. 388 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to do that. 389 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: And now the spirit is free. There's a lot of screaming. 390 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: There's screeching of spirit Wailey, and there's chaos, and Jin 391 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: gets the kind of spirit to kind of settle down 392 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: by yelling, you know, punish Agatha this very serious way 393 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: that sounds very sincere. And it seems like now the 394 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: coven is discussing various ways that they could punish Agatha 395 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: to fulfill the trial. And I think they're all like 396 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: pretty excited about the. 397 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: Proper like, wait a minute, this sounds we get to 398 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: do this officially. This is like and I think that 399 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: all kind of like, well, we know that she would 400 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: do it to us, like if this is the only 401 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: way to continue, like I. 402 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: Guess we have to tire to a chair and make 403 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: it happen, you know. Like so they start throwing around 404 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: various ways, very violent ways, that they could punish Agatha. 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: But then the lights But then the lights drop and 406 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Agatha has disappeared. 407 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Where is she? She's hanging on the ceiling like a ghoul. 408 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: And then you get all these various incredible so much 409 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: Farr references from the from excises to like, uh, it's 410 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: kind of. 411 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know. 412 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: Uh, Agatha or whatever is possessing Agatha is pallorous white 413 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: with the wrinkled face, very exorcist like. She begins to 414 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: strangle gen like hard strangling or lifting her. 415 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: Feet off the ground. Uh. 416 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: Lilya gets the lights back on, which stops the strangling. 417 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: But now Agatha has disappeared again. And then a ghost appears. 418 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: It is Evanorah Harkness, Agatha's mom. We just and mom 419 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: is quite quite quite upset at Agatha and the coven 420 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: for helping her unfaithful and treacherous daughter and to fix things. 421 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: She tells the coven that they have to abandon Agatha 422 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: and continue on the road by. 423 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: Themselves, leave Agatha in the cabin so I can deal 424 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: with her. 425 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: She says, yeah, I want to say, sure, okay, is 426 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: Agatha a villain? 427 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: Yes? 428 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: But as and I love that it's We start to 429 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: get to see this relationship between Rio and Agatha. Here, 430 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 3: Rio is like her mom tried to kill her, Like 431 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: her mom is bad, Like Agatha just responded to that badness, 432 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 3: you know, that that awfulness her mom. We hear her 433 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: mom say you were evil ever since you were born. 434 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: There's obviously like a she says she. 435 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Killed you when you were a baby, which is a 436 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: terrible thing, horrible. 437 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: Thing to say, awful thing to say. And Rio is 438 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: obviously very very protective of Agatha. So we're getting more 439 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: about that relationship. But yeah, it's I don't blame the 440 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 3: coven for considering leaving her there, but Tine is actually 441 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: very upset and Tin. 442 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: Does not t wants everybody to stay together Agatha, for 443 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: them to not leave her. But then mom possesses Agatha again, 444 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: and it becomes quite violent when Alice then casts a 445 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: Knight of wand's this kind of fiery spell. 446 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: Which is unbelievable and we've never seen her do this, 447 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: and suddenly. 448 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: Now evanra Now we don't know if it's evanor controlling 449 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: Agatha or Agatha or. 450 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: Whiting gets I think gets Agatha. 451 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: I think so I think it sadly might be. 452 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we see, we see Alice cost this power 453 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: that kind of costs out evanor or seems to. And then, 454 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 3: just like we saw Agatha do to Coven all those 455 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: years ago, as she said, she can't steal your power 456 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: unless you blast her with it, and so she begins 457 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: to steal Alice's power and just suck the life out 458 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 3: of her. And Catherine again just sells this so well. 459 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: It's it's just heartbreaking the moment she gets that taste 460 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: of power. 461 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Whoof uh so as this has had so Alice is having. 462 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: Her energy drained by Agatha. And and as this is happening, 463 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: Nick's trying to stop it. He sees that another spirit 464 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: is like moving the planchet on the Wigia board and 465 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: it appears. 466 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: To be Nick Scratch who is trying to come through. 467 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: Yes, so Nicholas Scratch seems to be coming through the board. 468 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 3: And this is where we have to say sorry to 469 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: those of you who thought that Teen was maybe Nicholas Scratch, 470 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: because Teen says the name Nicholas Scratch, and seeing as 471 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: he has the sigil on him, he wouldn't be able 472 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: to say that if that was who he was. 473 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: One other aspect of this confuses me, Does this mean 474 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: that Nicholas Scratch is therefore not the cat and. 475 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: Is dead like dead day, not the rabbit. Yes, that's 476 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: not the rabbit. 477 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, that's true. 478 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: She may have been keeping the rabbit because she thought 479 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: he was transmuted into an animal, but actually he really 480 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: did die. That would be interesting. Or maybe he's in 481 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: some kind of limbo. This could also, of course, be 482 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: the spirit or the Salem Seven trying to you know, 483 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: manipulate Agatha or you know, we're about to have this 484 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: conversation about Teen in a couple of minutes. Perhaps this 485 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: is something Teen did to help bring her back, because 486 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 3: after he says the words Nicholas Scratch, we then hear 487 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: a baby's voice saying like mom stop, like come back, 488 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 3: kind of like what we heard at the end of 489 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: Multiverse of Madness when Wanda's kids saw her, you know, 490 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: trying to kill poor old America Chavez. So very interesting stuff, 491 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: and that seems to break Agatha out of her magical 492 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: power stealing. Now was she in some where she's still 493 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: kind of in the trance of Evanorra. Could she control it? Unclear? 494 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: She does actually seem kind of upset when she sees 495 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: our I mean, she. 496 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Does, but she's also like, hey, let's give it. 497 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: She's also like, let's keep it going, baby. 498 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: She let's keep it going. So uh. 499 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: The opening to the trial chamber flips down and Alice 500 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: is there on the ground. She's drained of all her energy, 501 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: she drained of her life for she looks terrible. 502 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: She's dead. 503 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Tine is very, very, very angry, and he's trying to 504 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: figure out, like, Jen, can you do anything. No, we 505 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: use that spell. It's not work anymore, Lilia, There's got 506 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: to be a way. No, there's no Sadly, she's gone. 507 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: She's gone, and he turns on Agathy. He's like, you know, 508 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: she died protecting you and you don't deserve it, Like 509 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: how could you? 510 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Agatha leaves, She goes up the ladder and she leaves, 511 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: and we. 512 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: Realize as she gets outside that she has Alice's power 513 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: sparm see the. 514 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: And she and she smiles like she wanted that. She 515 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: wanted that power, and Tene says to this is what 516 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: you always wanted, right, this is what it was always about. 517 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: It was always about power. Is that what being a 518 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 3: witch is about? Like, I don't want that life, And 519 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: in a very fateful choice, a very resigned Lilia and 520 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: Jen come out, and they kind of say, actually, this 521 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: is what it's about, like we're all here for power 522 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: and we're depressed, but actually there's this is what it's about, 523 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: like we want all power back, you know. And I 524 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: think that was a terrible choice. 525 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: So he rejects this. 526 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: He says, well, I don't want any part of this 527 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: if that's what it means to be a which I 528 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: don't want it, and I think gets very intense. She 529 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: comes up to him very close, and she puts two 530 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: fingers under his chin in this kind of scratching motion, 531 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: and she says, very intensely, very scarily, are you sure 532 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: that you know? Being like, are you sure you don't 533 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: want the power? That's not why you're hearing really, And 534 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: then she says you're so much like your mother, which 535 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: I took to mean you hate what you are, but 536 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: you love what you are. 537 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. You claim that you don't want the 538 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: power and you don't want to be a villain, but 539 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: look at what Wonda did in Westview. 540 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tina is an emotional turmoil. 541 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden we see his crackling 542 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: of blue wickan colored energy, we should say, very very 543 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: wicked coated energy. 544 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: And Lily and Jen you see it in their eyes. 545 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: He's got control of them. 546 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: They grab Agatha under her arms and I was like, 547 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: what she realizes Tina is doing this? 548 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: She's like, wait, stop, stops up. 549 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: They throw her into the swamp. She swinks, She sinks 550 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: down and disappears. And then the teen does another gesture 551 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: with his hand and with that same energy, throws Lilia 552 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: and Jin into the swamp. 553 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: They sink and disappear. 554 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: He that was kind of crazy. 555 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: That was crazy. 556 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: And as the camera zooms out, Tina is wearing the Wickan. 557 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: He's wearing a very specific kind of head dress helmet. 558 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: Which they've nicely redesigned it. 559 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: To look looks very much like Wanda. 560 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: This is very nate and you have to wonder, now 561 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: has he seized the power of the coven? And indeed 562 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: was he behind this the whole time? 563 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: Was this his plan? 564 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: We must talk about this now, Rosie. What do you think? 565 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: Well, so, I, as I said wickan apologist. Also, I 566 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: want to say guys Ockham's raiser. Sometimes when it seems 567 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: like it's an obvious reveal, the right answer is the 568 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: most obvious answer, And of course now Marvel has confirmed 569 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: that Billy is being played by Joe Locke, who's doing 570 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: such a fantastic job and we love him. He is delightful. 571 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: And also we got to say, as this moment happens, 572 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: we get one of the top tier Marvel needle drops 573 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: where they play Billie eilishes you should see me in 574 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: a crown, and we really understand like ah, Billy ah, 575 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: and uh yeah, we realize in this moment like, oh, 576 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: he's the next He's the next one. So yeah. I 577 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: think in pre pro we were kind of talking about 578 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: like is Joelle was asking this, Aaron was asking this, 579 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: like is Billy the big Bad of the show. 580 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I think, like we, I think big bed is the 581 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: wrong way. 582 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: I think big bad is the wrong way thing about 583 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: it because he is dark side coded like so many 584 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 3: of our favorite characters. But I would say, like we 585 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: just saw Agatha kill one of the coven. I think 586 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: Agatha is still your complex anti villain here where you 587 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: sometimes are gonna side with her and you're sometimes gonna 588 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: feel like she's villainous. But I do think that from 589 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: now on we are going to see what Billy's real 590 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: aims were, which I think are going down the road 591 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: bring back his mom. And again, I think I brought 592 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: this up last week, but one of our discord users 593 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: did say they thought Billy put the sigil on himself 594 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: so he would be able to get Agatha to do 595 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: this without revealing who he was. And maybe in this 596 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: moment his fury or his anger allowed him to kind 597 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: of take over because we see him potentially like the 598 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: lillan Jen's eyes go blue, so we see him kind 599 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: of puppeting them, and I think that it's going to 600 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: be very interesting to see where we go next. I 601 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: don't think. 602 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: I don't think that they're all dead. I have a 603 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: slightly different take one. I do think to some extent, 604 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: this is Billy's story and that he set this up. 605 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: We open this cabin is about communing with the dead. 606 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: Episode one is centered around, through the rules of a 607 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: fake television show, a mysterious dead body that is his 608 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: mother we can strongly assume, right, So I think this 609 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: is all about him and who he was, who he's 610 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: looking to communicate with and commune with. 611 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: Two. 612 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: What did they say about the sigul? It can't be destroyed, 613 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: it can only be it can be lifted it can 614 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: only be destroyed when it's no longer needed. I think 615 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: Agatha identifying Billy. 616 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: Oh, that's yeah, because she says, you're so much like 617 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: your mother, so she knows. 618 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: I think it's a good point identifying him destroyed it 619 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: and showed that it wasn't necessary anymore and allowed him 620 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: to then be able to take his full power in 621 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: that moment, because I think he was severely restrained with 622 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: the sigil on him. Now, whether he placed it there 623 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: in order to go under cover, so to speak, or 624 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 2: whether she did it and doesn't remember, I don't know, 625 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: but I think that it was that it was saying 626 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: you're so much like your mother and basically saying I 627 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: know he. 628 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 3: I thinkly it happens immediately, really great. Cool. Also, I'm 629 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: very interested to see how they explain Billy's existence because, 630 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: as we know, Westview, Wonder just created the kids, right, 631 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 3: and then she found out that in every other universe 632 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: apart from her universe, she really did have the kids 633 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 3: and they did exist. But Marvel seems to be moving 634 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: away from the multiverse. I don't know if this is 635 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: going to be a multiversal version. I think that somehow 636 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 3: in the comics, obviously Wonder use like there was like 637 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 3: a fragment of Mephisto's soul, so we could be getting 638 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: back into the Mephisto agenda. But I think that this 639 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: is the westview Billy, Like, I think this is going 640 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: to be like a I think so Billy who remembers 641 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: Wonder and that's how he knew Agatha, And I think 642 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 3: that's going to be a really interesting wrinkle to kind 643 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: of smooth out as the show goes. 644 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: I agree, we're here and now warning for. 645 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: You potential folks who haven't read comic books and aren't 646 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: comic notes, here's some comic book bullshit. I agree with you, 647 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: and I think that whatever comes next for Billy, whether 648 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: it's in a television show that you know comes after this, 649 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: or it's in a movie, or it's in whatever movie 650 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: Mephisto does show up in, I think a lot of 651 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 2: Billy's the conflict around Billy is going to be centered around. 652 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: The fact that he shouldn't exist. He shouldn't be here. 653 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't. 654 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. 655 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: He's not of this realm and shouldn't exist here in 656 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: the way that he does. 657 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: Much like. 658 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: Certain plot lines that happened in the comics in which 659 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: it's revealed that the kids were total creations of Wanda 660 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: and that they shouldn't be here and that their souls 661 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: are stolen. 662 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: Comic book. 663 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna throw out a different thing now. Look, 664 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: I love Elizabeth Olsen. I believe and this is not 665 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: different to you. It's just that a different version of 666 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 3: what we've kind of been saying about. He's there to 667 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: get his mom back. He loves Wonder. I wonder, not wonder, 668 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 3: I wonder if actually he's there to get back Tommy 669 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: and he actually wants rather back and instead, and then 670 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: we end up with both of them with speed a 671 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: Wickan in the world. We're setting up more of that 672 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: Young Avengers. We have the fantastic Kate Bishop, we have 673 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: the incredible Kamala Kahan. You know, we're in a space 674 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: we obviously they're looking, I think, to make Elena some 675 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: kind of mentor for them. We're in a space we 676 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: did meet a version of Patriot, So maybe that's something 677 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: we're going to get to return to. I would love 678 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 3: to see if that was his will instead of Wonder, 679 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 3: because look, I love Elizabeth Olson, and I want to 680 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: reassure the discord some of the Discord members, some people 681 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 3: online they're worried they're never going to bring back Elizabeth Olson. 682 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: They are going to bring her back. Wonder never really dies. 683 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: Nobody dies in comics except for Uncle Ben. So I 684 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: think that TV wise, if we're talking about what feels realistic, 685 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: I think that him going for his brother than his mother, 686 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: who is obviously massive superstar and we're not sure when 687 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 3: she's gonna come back, would be more akin to like 688 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 3: the relative scope of this show, and I think it 689 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 3: could also be very emotional and quite a good twist. 690 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 3: I will also say something that we have noticed while 691 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 3: watching the show, is they the way that the credits 692 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: are spaced out. It does seem like there are two 693 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: spots where they will add two more credits as things 694 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: are revealed. So I could say we're gonna probably get 695 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: two more big reveals, or at least two more reveals. 696 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 3: Has characters, Thomas, could you be one of them? I 697 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: hope Nicholas also, just want to throw out there, very 698 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: interesting to see if and when Nicholas comes back. Will 699 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: it be old Nicholas who was working with the Salem seven, 700 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 3: Will it be young Nicholas as Agatha remembers him. We 701 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: don't know when she gave him up to get the 702 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 3: Dark Hold. We don't know where he's been, and I'm 703 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 3: very in trusted. You know, maybe Billy already knew that name. 704 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 3: Maybe he's in khoots with Nicholas. You know, you never know. Also, Jason, 705 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: what are the odds that we will get People love Billy? 706 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: They love him. He's a gay icon, He's a queer 707 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 3: babe in the Marvel universe. We did see a moment 708 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 3: where he looked at his phone and said it was 709 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 3: his boyfriend. Do you think we're gonna get a Hulkling 710 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: reveal mention moment in this season? Like you don't think? 711 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: I don't think we get it in this show. No, 712 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: I think we get it in something else. But I 713 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 2: don't think we get it in the show. 714 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: Because it's a big reveal that would be like a 715 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 3: good one for another show. 716 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: I agree, What a fun episode. 717 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see how they land this one 718 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 2: on the next couple of episodes of X ray Vision. Folks, 719 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: we're ramping it up. We're in we're going into the 720 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 2: factory and production is ramping and we're we're pulling down 721 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 2: on that big lever that says speedier like fast, quicker, more, 722 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: and we're pumping out more episodes. Wednesday, Aaron and Abou 723 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 2: are recapping episodes one through three. 724 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: Of Arcane season one. 725 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 2: On Thursday, Rosie and Joel are going to talk about 726 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: horror with comic book writer Inscha Fitzpatrick. 727 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. 728 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: Bye x ray Vision is hosted by Jason Kisupsion and 729 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 2: Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our 730 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: executive producers are Joelle Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising 731 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 2: producer is a Boo Zafar. Our producers are Carmen Laurent 732 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 2: and Mia Taylor. 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