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Speaker 6: Siaka i'm saying you're our. Guy they're not putting them

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Speaker 4: fifty six. Million second Team ALL. NBA i guess not

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Speaker 2: Extension. YEAH i was decided to get him.

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Speaker 4: YEAH i was confused by that at, first because that

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Speaker 4: it's true he could have signed a five year max,

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Speaker 4: extension which is then is weird to me that we

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Speaker 4: call it's just. Strange we call a four, year one

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty million dollar a max. EXTENSION i, MEAN

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Speaker 4: i get, it it's. Max don't have enough.

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Speaker 7: Words, yeah it's max money for, him but it's max

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Speaker 1: Contract but you're, right, yeah right when it's written out,

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Speaker 1: doing the. Dollars they're just, yeah they're just calculating. Dollars

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Speaker 1: Like Kyle lowry got a one year. EXTENSION i think

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Speaker 1: it's a max dollar. Offer, yeah but it's for one. Year, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so it. Is it is a good.

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Speaker 1: Contract and when you look at it like, THAT i

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Speaker 1: Year you, said he's not even in the prime of his.

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Speaker 1: CAREER i think anyone would take this contract into trade right,

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Speaker 1: to keep that in mind With. Masougerie he could be

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Speaker 1: trading this. Contract BUT i think there's there's not a

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Speaker 2: Him you brought Up.

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Speaker 1: Paul, millsap even though He Pascal siakam has been deducted

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Speaker 1: eight pascal's like seven, to two seven to three in

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Speaker 1: can get to the rim and score. Over people and

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Speaker 1: they were trying To throw joel And be they Did

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Speaker 1: last year their best defender to try and shut. Him down,

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Speaker 1: you know people are at somewhere, with it oh, For.

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Speaker 7: Sure but again that's fine when you're a. Young player,

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Speaker 7: he certainly. Showed that, you know under the bright lights of,

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Speaker 8: Pretty good THAT'S what.

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Speaker 7: I think, you know you just don't want to risk

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Speaker 7: that when You're the, raptors again even though they could

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Speaker 3: You bro yeah, it, is, yeah bro.

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Speaker 4: It is it is still tough for me to wrap

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Speaker 4: my head around him being a franchise player though the

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Speaker 4: best guy on a really really good. Championship team, you,

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Speaker 4: go yeah that's that's what's intriguing. To me can he

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Speaker 4: he's only played basketball for like eight seasons as it

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Speaker 4: is like in, his life so maybe he continues just.

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Speaker 4: To improve and there has been maybe not to a franchise,

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Speaker 4: level McCollum's the only one over the. Last six, You

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Speaker 4: know i'm talking one years Prior to siakam that.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't yet and, you.

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Speaker 4: Know most people, are, like yeah He's Borderline all star

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Speaker 4: and likely will make one before it's all said. And DONE,

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Speaker 4: So yeahaka RAPTORS fans i think are generally happy up

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Speaker 4: here with, this contract and yeah it's not the. Five

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Speaker 1: Yeah and you Look At Pascal sam that was his

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Speaker 1: first test in the postseason. Last year some ups, And,

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Speaker 1: know thirty point performance to START The nba finals and

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Speaker 2: Had done it's not gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get, worse yeah he had done of a game, Too, though.

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Speaker 1: Him, up yeah SO but i would imagine your first

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Speaker 1: not gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get worse, Yeah, Yeah, imo yeah unlikely.

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Speaker 6: HE could i mean. He could he could look worse

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Speaker 6: playing against the number.

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Speaker 5: One option. He could this could be a contract.

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Speaker 6: THEY regret i think it's easy to foresee a place where,

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Speaker 6: sea comes on this most improved to all start at PERHAPS.

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Speaker 6: All nba he could. GET worse, i mean it's not

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Speaker 6: a risk. Free contract or he has a track record

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Speaker 6: of eight seasons, playing basketball one successful year IN.

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Speaker 7: The nba or he could just this is as good as,

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Speaker 7: he gets, AS well i mean exactly could be, his

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Speaker 7: PEAK but i think he's going to.

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Speaker 8: GET better, I mean I think.

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Speaker 7: I LIKE what i like about him is his composure,

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Speaker 7: as well is he doesn't seem to get. Too rattle

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Speaker 7: he's not too emotional out on the. Court THERE so

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Speaker 7: i think that way they call, HIM spacey i think

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Speaker 7: it's because when, he dunks they're. Spicey, Dunks, okay, Yeah

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Speaker 7: interesting and that's a. Great question i've never thought about it,

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Speaker 7: like That but i've, you know you.

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Speaker 2: Don't you don't.

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Speaker 5: See him you don't.

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Speaker 7: See him getting, you know too sort of angry or or,

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Speaker 7: confidence in, HIS skills i think at. Both ENDS and

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Speaker 7: i think it's just that quiet confidence where, you, know

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Speaker 7: defensively especially he rarely. Get, beaten boy he's a partent

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Speaker 7: like he's got very very great. DEFENSIVE instincts i.

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Speaker 1: Prefer buttery, p MYSELF because i think. He is he

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Speaker 1: is smooth like anything. On OFFENSE and i buy some

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Speaker 1: of The Videos i've i've watched this summer of him

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Speaker 1: getting better. At that just give him. The ball that's

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Speaker 1: PLAYER but i like it. Both Ends he i'm buying

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Speaker 1: the past four years going into his.

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Speaker 4: Problem yet can we stop talking about spicy food? Right

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Speaker 4: now had a Lot of tie food this weekend AND

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Speaker 8: Of days it, was good, you go you go free medical.

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Speaker 4: Resident, anymore YEAH so i don't know how. That, works,

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Speaker 1: yesterday i know you Love your. Indian, food yeah and

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Speaker 4: All, right well let's stick here with sort of the

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Speaker 4: contract Extension Talks buddy healed And The. Sacramento kings they

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Speaker 4: extensions i believe it's at midnight tonight Here. On monday

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Speaker 4: According To Yahoo Sports, Chris haynes healed turned down the,

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Speaker 4: four year ninety million dollar contract extension From.

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Speaker 3: The kings he and his.

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Speaker 4: Agents are reportedly seeking a deal more in the one

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Speaker 4: hundred and ten million. Dollar range he was obviously fantastic

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Speaker 4: For the kings. Last season what do you do you

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Speaker 4: On monday and if, it doesn't could this could this

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Speaker 4: Derail the king season? AT all, i mean you guys

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Speaker 4: saw the Comments That buddy. Healed had he didn't sound

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Speaker 4: didn't sound all that happy with the sort of low

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Speaker 2: AT him i think it's a six. O'clock extension oh is?

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Speaker 3: It okay at six o'clock we want.

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Speaker 2: TO talk i think he'll.

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Speaker 1: Be signed but by the time that people are listening to,

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Speaker 1: THIS podcast.

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Speaker 7: I think, his comments, you know not it's not great

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Speaker 7: to go through, the media but he was kind of right,

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Speaker 7: in saying, you know big free agents don't Sign. In

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Speaker 7: sacramento he had a. Good season he's improved every single

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Speaker 7: season he's. Been there he's shooting the three pointer. Really

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Speaker 7: well he's a career forty two percent three. Point shooter

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Speaker 7: this is WHAT the nba. RIGHT now i think if

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Speaker 3: Can meet five million more.

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Speaker 7: A hundred i'm thinking one. Hundred, million yeah for, four

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Speaker 6: Ruthless nego that, sounds like oh you got, A number

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Speaker 7: A NUMBER but I just i just think For, the

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Speaker 7: The boogey. Cousin's trade he's been, a very very good

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Speaker 7: asset to. THIS team i think he's good growing in

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Speaker 7: that backcourt There With. DARREN fox i think if You're,

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Speaker 7: the kings he's going to get this. Money somewhere and

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Speaker 7: if he if he plays out, this season maybe if they,

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Speaker 7: trade him, Who knows but if he does, PLAY out

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Speaker 7: You go you sign him up because of the skills that.

436
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 7: He has sure he could certainly improve other parts of,

437
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 7: his GAME but i think right now sign him up

438
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 7: one hundred. Million dollars you know you can trade, that

439
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,119
Speaker 7: CONTRACT and i just think he's earned it. AS well,

440
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,200
Speaker 7: i mean twenty one points a game, last year forty

441
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 7: three Percent from downtown on eight threes. A game that's

442
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,240
Speaker 7: that's pretty. Good NUMBERS and I think i think he's.

443
00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 2: Worth, IT yeah i.

444
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,400
Speaker 6: WOULD agree i think you should pay him the entire.

445
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 6: One ten you want to stop Being, the kings a

446
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,680
Speaker 6: team that it has been a joke for. Two decades

447
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 6: who has two decades worth of incompetence in the?

448
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 5: Front office pay your.

449
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 6: Best players the guy had the seventh best three point

450
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 6: season of. All time like, You're, saying lee he is a.

451
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 6: Modern player him And. Dearon fox you can. SEE them

452
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 6: i don't know they're Not The splash Brothers because fox

453
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,000
Speaker 6: isn't lightened, it up but they're an incredible backcourt that

454
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 6: seems like the sort of future that you're. Building around

455
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,639
Speaker 6: Especially With. MARVIN bagley i think he's Better Than. BOGDAN bogdanovitch,

456
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 6: I mean i Think that bogdan is a very. Solid

457
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 6: player he can offer maybe a little bit. More PLAYMAKING

458
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 6: but i don't think we're ever going to See the

459
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 6: bogdanovitch that we SAW during foeba IN. The nba it's

460
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 6: just not necessarily the. Same game he's not in THE

461
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 6: same i don't think he has the same rep IN

462
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 6: the nba that teams are going to let him take

463
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 6: over all. The time but it's gonna come down to

464
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,119
Speaker 6: choose in between those, two GUYS and I think i

465
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,919
Speaker 6: think it would be Who the kings to make a

466
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 6: Move To key healed, right now because The, chemist stryt,

467
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 6: to me is already going to be jeopardized a little

468
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 6: bit if you've got one guy. COMING in i know

469
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 6: he's right the Teams that sacramento doesn't get big name,

470
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 6: free agents but free Agent for sacramento probably shouldn't be

471
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,399
Speaker 6: the ones saying that that Sounds Very boogey cousins.

472
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 3: To me in the.

473
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 6: Locker room we've seen a lot of bad videos come

474
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 6: out of those. Locker rooms so If the kings want

475
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 6: to be taken seriously as, A franchise i think they

476
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 6: either need To, pay buddy commit, to him or ship

477
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 6: him out and commit To.

478
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: Bog down he's not asking for the, max max which

479
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: would be four for. One thirty it's a. Lower number

480
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: but the worry is With the kings and, their incompetence

481
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: as you, mentioned earlier is that they would pay their

482
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: old guys that they've. Been paying they've been paying a

483
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: lot of guys to fill up their locker room because

484
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 1: they think they're a championship, level team and then not

485
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: pay their. Young guys They Gave harrison barnes four for,

486
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: Eighty five They Pay, trevor resa They Paid, dwayne deadman

487
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 1: They Paid. Corey, joseph now if they're gonna pay those

488
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: dudes because they think they're a championship level team and

489
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: not pay their, young guys it would Be very. Kings

490
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,159
Speaker 1: like and that's what sort of gives me pause between

491
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: before the the deadline here that maybe they Don't signe,

492
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: buddy HEEL but i think he just sort of opened

493
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: his mouth because it, seems like, you know Even when

494
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 1: buddy came on our show a few, years ago he

495
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: likes to talk and the.

496
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 2: Mics were in. His face he talked. A lot he

497
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: went to FanFest they Had on.

498
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: Saturday night he had a dunk and he Turned Towards

499
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: vlati DEVOTS the gm and he gave him the universal.

500
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: Sign, for money pay.

501
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: Me MAN and i THINK that i think those two

502
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: things Happened with Buddy hil he talks, a lot but

503
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: he's also he also wants to, be THERE and i

504
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: think they're going to find a number and he should

505
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: be part of the. Young CORE but I don't i

506
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: think they Should have bogdanovic on. That team why would

507
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: You have bogdanovic Or have barnes and Not. Bungd ounovich

508
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: you KNOW what? I, mean like if we're going to

509
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: build a, championship team what are we? Doing here let's

510
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: let's have the. Best guys bogdanovitch has shown he's got

511
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 1: a lot of stones in. This league keep, them Around keep,

512
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: healed Around keep, fox around and See what.

513
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: Badley.

514
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: Is uh those those are my cornerstones for. This Team

515
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: and bogdanovitch's contract is gonna be way cheaper just because

516
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: of his. HIS status i. Don't Know the barnes thing

517
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 1: is the thing that's sort of erky. Right now i'm.

518
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 6: With you ideally they should be able To keep Buddy and,

519
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 6: bog done but the problem is that they've paid all

520
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 6: these vets to try and make their team a little bit.

521
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 6: MORE respectable i think that's an understandable move if you're

522
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 6: coming from Where the kings franchise. Is band but like,

523
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 6: you're saying that's a huge Contract To harrison barnes that

524
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 6: every other player can now look at on the team, and,

525
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 6: say hey You Give harrison.

526
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 5: Barnes this i've been putting up better Numbers Than. Harrison

527
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 5: barnes pay.

528
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 6: Me more i'm gonna be doing my international sign for

529
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 6: pay me money at the.

530
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 7: Fan fast the thing about the other Thing with buddy

531
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 7: hild is you say he talks about but he's never

532
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 7: really been any sort of distraction for.

533
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 8: That team, You know it's like he's a good player.

534
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 8: To have he's a good one for.

535
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 6: That one night where he aged an entire yeah interview

536
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 6: that was a bit of.

537
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 7: A distraction that, is true but other, THAN that, i mean,

538
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 7: you know Good solid ed played all eighty two games.

539
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 7: LAST year i mean those things to me when, you,

540
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 7: are buddy you're making your case again not asked for

541
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 7: the for the max that. He's ENTITLED so i think

542
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 7: it does help, his CASE and i think if.

543
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 8: He walks it does look bad On.

544
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 7: The kings, it's like why wouldn't you at least sign

545
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 7: this guy and have him as an asset that you.

546
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 7: Can trade you can easily trade this contract down, the

547
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 7: Road so kings don't mess.

548
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 8: This up just just find that middle ground.

549
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,239
Speaker 4: At, LEAST yeah i think that there's a reason for

550
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: the pause With the kings is because they're, also going

551
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 4: like you guys, Were saying, they're like, oh yeah we're

552
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 4: gonna have to do the Extension with fox. Here soon,

553
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah bagley looks like a player that's gonna be

554
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 4: coming down. The line and they're caught. Between this they're

555
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 4: caught between, the future this, youth movement, and then like

556
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 4: you said during the summer of, their test wanting to

557
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: add these vets to really try and make a. Playoff

558
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: push and they're so they're just like they're caught a

559
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 4: little bit here between paying these guys in, The present,

560
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 4: vets guys and then, oh yeah all these massive contracts

561
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to dole out for the future and

562
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 4: whether one, of them maybe two, of them are not.

563
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: Worth keeping i'm, with, You buddy he'll make sense on

564
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: this team quite. A bit it's nice to have a shooter.

565
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: Like that he put up one of the greatest three

566
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: point seasons we've ever SEEN in nba history in terms

567
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 4: of just pure volume and the consistency he was knocking.

568
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 4: It down so it fits With your fox and. Your

569
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 4: baglies but they're trying to make it all work at

570
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 4: once here while trying to figure out. The books SO it's,

571
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: i mean it's in a way It's. Classic kings but

572
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 4: we will see whether or not they do come to,

573
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 4: an agreement and like like, these guys if, they don't,

574
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 4: you know it's not like he's gone From the kings by.

575
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: Any means he would still. Be restricted they could match

576
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 4: and they could then, you know keep. Him around but

577
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: it's like what we. Already seen he's a little frustrated

578
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: talking to the media here with not getting this deal

579
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 4: and probably just, you know in his, mind, THINKING yeah

580
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 4: i do deserve more Money Than. HARRISON barnes i play

581
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 4: with him every day, and like do you go through

582
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 4: a whole season of him? Being upset does that help or?

583
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 4: Hurt him because he's like really wants to stick it.

584
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: TO you i.

585
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: Don't know so we'll see What the kings. Do here

586
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 4: they do have some time again recording this Earlier on

587
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 4: monday to come to an agreement for that Six pm.

588
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 4: Eastern deadline, THANK you i thought it was a. Midnight one.

589
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: All right we have got some disappointing news here. To

590
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 4: talk let's slip. It In zion.

591
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Williamson expected to miss in.

592
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: Quotations here this is from woj period of weeks to

593
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 4: start the regular season with a right. Knee injury so

594
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: he's not going to be playing on Opening night Tomorrow

595
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: night tuesday Versus the raptors up Here, in toronto and

596
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: we don't know when he's going to. Come back this

597
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 4: is really all we know. Right now what's your reaction, to?

598
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 4: This guys i'm really truly just how much does this?

599
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 4: Suck already that you know we're not going To get

600
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 4: Zion on? Opening night we don't even know when he's going.

601
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: To play.

602
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: It stanks very much for us FOR.

603
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: The nba they booked him for TWO national tv games

604
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: on opening week and he won't be there for either.

605
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Of them but, step back let's let's let's step. Back,

606
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: here yeah and These The greg oden comparisons that are

607
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: happening out there on the stupid internet are a. LITTLE

608
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: ridiculous i think if you look at this organization and we,

609
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: gave him we gave it ALL the a plus over

610
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: the summer because we think it's a quote unquote, smart

611
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: organization and this appears. To be let's let's give them a,

612
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: little credit a. Smart move there's something going on in.

613
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: The knee let's just shut it down and figure it

614
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: out and not let him play and try and fight.

615
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: Through, it, so, yes SUCKS but i.

616
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: Don't know i'm trusting an organization that we gave a

617
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: lot of trust to for the last few months to

618
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: try and get, this right and he could.

619
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: Be playing it's not like.

620
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: He's decimated there's, You Know alan gentry, in interviews, you

621
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: know during camp here this past weekend was basically like he's,

622
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: not dead.

623
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: He's fine there's.

624
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: He's living, his, life yeah living, the dreamy.

625
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: He's living the dream and he's definitely downplaying how much,

626
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: he's injured and that they're just, being CAUTIOUS and i

627
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: think that's what, it is AND that's i think that's

628
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: a good thing at this point to figure out the,

629
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: man's gait where he's applying that pressure on, his leg

630
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: how much weight is going, on now and obviously, he

631
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: waddles and that's a. Big worry and if you're looking

632
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: for all the m d s out there giving their

633
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: their takes on on his knee and how it's going to,

634
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: play out it's definitely someone to. Worry about but, that's

635
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: why that's why it's a positive that he's sitting down

636
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: now rather than in, you know game thirty five five

637
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: when he actually. GETS injured i think this is just a.

638
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 7: Precautionary move the concern is Just the King the pelicans

639
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 7: saying a number. Of weeks so that could be two

640
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 7: weeks or it could be. Ten weeks really they are

641
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 7: both number he's they're, both numbers and that, to me,

642
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 7: you know usually usually you hear someone say he's.

643
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 8: Out for two to four weeks or six eight weeks

644
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 8: or whatever.

645
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 7: It is to say this SORT of i think giving

646
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 7: themselves a little bit extra time to say that maybe

647
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 7: he's out for.

648
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 8: Two months we don't really.

649
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 6: Know, Him sure gentry was even saying he hasn't been

650
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 6: completely ruled up For, opening, Nates right so it's very

651
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 6: streng they're kind of they're being very kegy, about it

652
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 6: ye doubt because they don't know what's, going on And

653
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 6: like tass, to say and they're just playing. It cautious

654
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 6: this is, year one this is month One OF zion's.

655
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 6: Nba career they want him to be there for, twenty

656
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 6: years not.

657
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 7: Twenty minutes, That's right and it wouldn't make any sense

658
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 7: for them to rush him back, at all even if

659
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 7: that does mean he's out for, you know. Three months

660
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 7: and you know you Mentioned The greg oden comparisons there

661
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 7: out there. As well but there's another time With, play

662
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 7: griffin who missed his entire, rookie season but he came

663
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 7: back and he's basically Crafted a Hall of fame career.

664
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 7: Since then so Even if zion maybe.

665
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 5: Not a model of, physical, health no, but right.

666
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 7: That's true but remember those first couple of years As

667
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 7: a clipper when he, WAS playing, i mean you couldn't

668
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 7: tell he was coming off a year of missing an.

669
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 7: An injury he was explosive, and dynamic and as, he's

670
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 7: aged he's lost some of, that athleticism which was going to.

671
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 7: Happen anyway but, You know I've seen zion, up close

672
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 7: and he does he does a lot of jumping and

673
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 7: he gets, up high and so he's putting a lot

674
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 7: of pressure on those knees and, those ankles and, you

675
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 7: know that's that is going to be a concern because

676
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 7: he is, a big big. Guy already so whether or

677
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 7: Not the pelicans try to get him to lose a bit, of,

678
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 7: WEIGHT maybe i, don't know but it's going to be

679
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 7: something that you do wonder if his body is going

680
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 7: to be able to maintain all that pressure of jumping up.

681
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 7: AND down, I Mean dwight howard, early on remember he

682
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 7: was an incredible. Physical specimen now it's sort of caught

683
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 7: up with him later on in, his career but, Early

684
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 7: on dwight was an incredibly athletic guy who jumped all.

685
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 7: The time he used, To, say orlando just throw the,

686
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 7: Ball up i'll go and. Get it and he was

687
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 7: blocking shots at the other end, As well so, you

688
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 7: know guys can.

689
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: Do It laan williams since n eighteen. Years, old yeah

690
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: that's the Skin like twet's. THIRTY three i don't.

691
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: Know No what.

692
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 7: I'm saying, I'm, Saying well I'm saying dwight early on

693
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 7: was jumping all. The, time yeah and it has caught

694
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 7: up with, Him. Eventually zion he jumps both ends of

695
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 7: the floor. As well injury should.

696
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: Not, Jump no.

697
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 7: I'm saying i'm saying he's going to put a lot

698
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 7: of pressure on his joints at both ends of.

699
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 5: The floor they have college is the worry they have

700
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: to in high school and?

701
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: High, school yeah.

702
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 8: But he had a knee injury in.

703
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: High, school yes. SAME knee i don't know.

704
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 6: This one the one that happened in high school was

705
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 6: like he fell on the on the ground and like

706
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 6: just the size of his body hurt his knee falling on.

707
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: The ground he hasn't had surgery at, this point and,

708
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: you Know, like dwight you know had. Back surgery blake's had.

709
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: His surgeries THAT'S why i think if you're going to

710
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: Put this pelicans ORGANIZATION and i don't know what the

711
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: heck's going on in that locker room as far as

712
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: you know his, pain level what's? Going On but pelicans

713
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: organization versus. OTHER organizations i think some would just. Play

714
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: him i'm guessing like like, You Said alvin gentry would

715
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: said he wouldn't rule him Out For.

716
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: OPENING night i Think.

717
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: The pelicans are just being more cautious than other, organizations

718
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: WOULD so i think they should get the benefit of.

719
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: The doubtract and they Completely Under david griffin revamped like

720
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: their trainers and stuff, like that because they haven't had

721
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: a great. Track Record the pelicans have. A lot, That's

722
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: right that's. EXACTLY right i forget, his name but do

723
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: YOU think, i mean we. Don't know we don't know

724
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: what period means in period of weeks like you, were

725
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: saying but Has has ion sort of rookie of the?

726
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: Year chances they've already gone up, In smoke like is

727
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: that is he just going to miss too? Many games

728
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: and does anyone want a prediction mulligan because everyone was

729
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: Obviously backing Zion for rookie Of.

730
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: The year in our.

731
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: Season previews where does everyone fall on that or just?

732
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: All that i'm Sticking with zion As my rookie Of the.

733
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 6: Year pick he's still going to be a walking highlight

734
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 6: as soon as he comes back. THE something i think

735
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 6: that could be.

736
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 5: A huge.

737
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 6: A double edged sword for his case going forward is

738
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 6: if he misses quite a bit. Of time eighteen Of

739
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 6: the pelicans' first twenty games are against teams that want

740
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 6: to make the playoffs.

741
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: This, year uh they've got a really tough schedule, to start.

742
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: So they could be behind the, eight ball which either

743
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 6: means their playoff chances. Are Gone when zion comes back and,

744
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 6: you know he's just putting up big highlights and big

745
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 6: numbers for a team that's in the middle Of The,

746
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 6: western conference not really going anywhere until, next year in

747
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 6: which case maybe his case doesn't look as sexy as

748
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 6: somebody who's contributing to a. Playoff team or he comes

749
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: back there on the edge of the, playoff picture, he's

750
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 6: awesome and he leads him into, the playoffs then he's

751
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 6: for sure the rookie Of.

752
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: THE year i refuse To Withdrama zion williams and pick

753
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: because that makes it feel like to me like he

754
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: actually is injured and will be injured for a long period.

755
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Of TIME so i, You know i'm just holding.

756
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Out HOPE but i Think the pelicans had big worries

757
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: in terms of their team coming into the season because

758
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: they had so many new parts Figured Out zion williamson

759
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: included IS the, A three, Z four. Z, five okay

760
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: he's not, a three BUS he a four is. The

761
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: five there's there's so. Many questions there's still a lot.

762
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: Of questions now they Don't. HAVE zion i think that

763
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: that really hurts. Their chances but as Far as, zion's

764
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: chances the dude's Are freaking whether, it's two three, or

765
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: four he could still.

766
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: Win.

767
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: This Okay Pelicans raptors, tuesday night first game OF the,

768
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: nba season first game of two and thirty regulars in.

769
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: The Games, no zion and It's, the raptors who we

770
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: know do not do well In. THE states, i mean

771
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: Everyone in canada is going to, be watching you, would

772
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 4: hope but they don't do well in. The state is

773
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: this going to be the, worst rating worst rated opener of?

774
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 4: ALL time i think it's in play, Right, Probably YEAH

775
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 4: like i hate to, say it but it seems like it.

776
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: Could be if People know zion in play and if

777
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: that's if that is, the CASE.

778
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 7: And I think I think I Think LeVar ball Is,

779
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 7: in toronto so maybe they'll generate a bit. Of, publicity okay, you, Know,

780
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 7: yeah look there's definitely some Excitement on Lonzo And, brandon

781
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 7: england but no near the pole Of a. Zion it,

782
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 7: AND again i mean so many people are just kind

783
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 7: of Dismissing The raptors championship that they don't. Even care

784
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 7: they're looking sort of already toward. This season, so yeah

785
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 7: it's probably not going to be a not a not

786
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: a ratings winner.

787
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 8: OUT there i wouldn't, Say so i'll be.

788
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: Watching, That Yeah, LAKERS clippers i Guess, after yeah that's the.

789
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: Other, thing yeah not too, too bad, All right.

790
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: So yeah we'll just hold our Breath. With zion hopefully it's.

791
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: Nothing serious AND, like tasa they're just being overly.

792
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: Pre cautious.

793
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: All right final piece of, news. Here Guys deon waiters

794
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: was suspended By the heat for their season Opener. On

795
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: wednesday they Start on wednesday night for what was described

796
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: as conduct detrimental to. The Team so heat President pat, riley,

797
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: said quote there were a number of unacceptable incidents, this

798
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: week culminating with his unprofessional conduct on the Bench on

799
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: friday night part of the. Preseason game as, A consequence

800
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: i feel he had to. Suspend him waiters then Took

801
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: to instagram to show he. Wasn't happy, you know someone

802
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: said that he was losing minutes To Rookie tyler Hero,

803
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: BECAUSE hero i guess. Works hard As this instagram comment or,

804
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: Put it waiters replied with the, old lol so he's laughing.

805
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: At that he also sort Of said spoe only one

806
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: Because of Lebron and wade or he was alluding to.

807
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 4: That fact he just went off In the instagram comments

808
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: and he had gotten into It with spolster on. The

809
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: bench really is what? Happened Here So dan waiters Out for?

810
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: Game one where Did the there are rumors now That

811
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: the heat have been trying to trade him Since last christmas.

812
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: AND haven't i don't think this is going to help.

813
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: His case but what?

814
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: Goes on what do you think is going? On here

815
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: Is just waiters upset with minutes and not playing in

816
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: the preseason and not maybe going to. Be starting and

817
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: where do they go?

818
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: FROM here i Think the heat are showing Off For. Jimmy,

819
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 6: Butler First james johnson got in trouble for. Being Overweight

820
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 6: Now dion waders is going to, be expended suspended for

821
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 6: conduct detrimental to. The Team, last April pat, RILEY said

822
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: i told YOU what. I hated i, hate, complaining gossiping

823
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 6: and guys that don't. WORK hard i have a hard

824
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 6: time with players that don't tuck their.

825
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: Shirts in it's.

826
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 6: Very unprofessionable, come, on buddy this is ridiculous. TO me

827
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 6: i Understand That dion waders can be a problematic presence

828
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 6: in a. Locker room he's mad that he's. Not playing

829
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 6: he hasn't played more than forty six games in the past.

830
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 6: Three seasons For whatever Heason pat riley committed to this

831
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 6: guy after a slightly better than five. Hundred season everybody

832
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 6: knew this was something that can Happen With. Deon waders

833
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 6: if you don't want, him around then. Cut him it

834
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 6: was your mistake to bring, him In, pat riley you

835
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 6: got to deal.

836
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 5: With it untuck your. Shirt Untucked deon.

837
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 7: Kyrie would never Work in, miami then because he's always

838
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 7: got the.

839
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 8: Untucked shirt.

840
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 6: That's Right jimmy butler has untucked shirts quite, a bit to. Be,

841
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 6: honest yeah he doesn't have shirts reach. His, shorts yeah

842
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 6: that's a. Good point he's got craft ups. Or danglars

843
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 6: what's he gonna DO.

844
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: Which i want to tuck. It in i'm going to cut.

845
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 7: It off dion does have a history though, As well

846
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 7: like even go back to his.

847
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 8: Rookie season he got.

848
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 7: INTO it i Think With kyrie irving over the shots

849
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 7: and things like that.

850
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 5: Is what the rumor was.

851
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 7: Or, SOMETHING yeah i mean the thing is With, de

852
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 7: on he just hasn't been able to stay on, the

853
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 7: court so he has to earn that. Spot back and it's.

854
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 7: Pre season he should be working hard and doing what

855
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 7: the coaches are.

856
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 6: For him he said he got in the best chief of. His,

857
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: life yeah so he's coming on and stand look. AT

858
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 6: me i got a six pat put.

859
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 7: Me ON maybe i mean maybe, MAYBE years i, don't

860
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 7: know but He doesn't he can be a guy who,

861
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 7: can score but he doesn't provide all that much else for.

862
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 7: A team not a, great defender he, doesn't rebound he

863
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 7: doesn't set other. GUYS up i think that heat is just, saying,

864
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 7: listen man you're basically coming off. An injury you've Got

865
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 7: to you've got to earn. That spot there's no freebies IN,

866
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 7: the nba especially on, this Team and dion didn't. Take

867
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 7: well so it's never good when a guy goes to

868
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 7: social media and expresses his opinions via like, or commenting

869
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 7: or things. Like that he's trying to clearly get. Himself

870
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 7: traded i'm not sure there's a super hot market for,

871
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 7: him though but we'll see what happens There. IN miami,

872
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 7: i Mean pat riley likes to crack. The whip he

873
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 7: likes to be, a HARDLINER and i Think if dion

874
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 7: continues to sort of behave, like this then then he

875
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 7: will be out of. That team but if he sort

876
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 7: of takes his suspension on his gin, and said, All

877
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 7: right i've got to work hard and he'll get minutes if,

878
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 7: he's PLAYING then i think there may be some sort

879
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 7: of future for him There. In miami but not looking great.

880
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 7: Right now he thinks he's better than, he is, Of,

881
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 7: course yeah real problem.

882
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: With you he just thinks he hit that.

883
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 7: Game winner Against the warriors and that was that was

884
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 7: when he thinks he's In the Hall.

885
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: Of fame but in, his defense he comes back from

886
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 4: the injury and now he feels like he's in. Better

887
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: sheep he has started when he's been with. THE heat,

888
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: i mean he's started when. He's healthy he starts for the.

889
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: Most part so he, is like what's going?

890
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: On HERE and i.

891
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: Do think a big part of it, is this, you

892
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 4: Know the taylor hero hype that's gotta be, killing him,

893
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 4: you know not knowing the young winners personally annoying and SORT.

894
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 5: Of i play.

895
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: Hero, ball yeah, come, on exactly that's. My point just.

896
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 6: Wait, it, out, though man this is exactly what Happened

897
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 6: with Dion when lebron came To the caves. As Well

898
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 6: joe harris, was starting he. Started complaining he was holding

899
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 6: his hands up all, the, time saying passed me.

900
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: The ball just wait, it.

901
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 6: Out man sometimes rookies start because they. Get hot then

902
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: the other teams figure them out and they go back to.

903
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 6: The bench that's when you slide in and show off all,

904
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 6: those great great reasons that you are still On The.

905
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 6: Miami Heat, pat riley he really cares. About culture he

906
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 6: also signed His On white Side And. Dion waiters let's not.

907
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: Forget that yeah.

908
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: It is you guys covered everything as far as the.

909
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Team goes i'm just going to voice my frustration With

910
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: The instagram, discover PAGE which i absolutely sometimes it Just,

911
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: reallyou ACTUALLY before i read this story about him not or,

912
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: you know doing the the lols and doing, HIS comments

913
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: i happen to go To The instagram. Discover page and,

914
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: you know you see these screen grabs of quotes that

915
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: aren't sourced Properly. On, instagram, now yeah everybody was, getting misquoted,

916
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: you know FROM w nba. Players back, you know There's

917
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: The britney grinder thing that happened towards the end of

918
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: the year. Last year and, so yes there's a screen

919
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Grab With dion. Waiter's comment but is it?

920
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 2: A comment is it An actual that's THAT'S.

921
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: All i just wanted to. Vent ABOUT and i guess they.

922
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Were comments you just. Don't know you just. Don't Know

923
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: and i'm not going to say the fak e news words,

924
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: out there but that's what that's the that is what's happening,

925
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: out there and you don't Really the. Instagram discovered we

926
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: also don't.

927
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: Know if It's Actually.

928
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: Dion, waiters yes, it's account but you know a lot

929
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: of these guys have the no, not, hacked, NO no i,

930
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: MEAN like i mean more it's a Buddy Of dion

931
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: waiters or someone in his in his in, his crew or,

932
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 4: his family family member or something like that happens a.

933
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: Lot TOO but i ALSO believe i Could See deon

934
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: waiters being pissed enough to jump in there and be,

935
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: like yeah lool, AND yeah i have got a quick

936
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: one TOO if I have Lebron and wade and stuff.

937
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 4: Like that so we will see what the. Heat do

938
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: i'll do.

939
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 7: It great so the ONE thing i, will, say though

940
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 7: is Like pat Riley has spoulster's back one, Hundred percent

941
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 7: so there's. Never paper riley's never going to take the

942
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 7: side of the player in. That instant so It's on

943
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 7: Dane white is to sort, of say, All right i'm gonna,

944
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 7: have to, you know pull pull myself into line Here

945
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 7: because spalster is basically a hate Life for he's just

946
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 7: an extension Of pat riley there on.

947
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 8: The bench yeah.

948
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,080
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987
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988
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,520
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989
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,719
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990
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,880
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991
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,560
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992
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160
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995
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996
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,920
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997
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 4: we could debate whether you're going over. Or, under again

998
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: we're not gonna get all, thirty here but maybe we

999
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,600
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1000
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: Like THAT so i, don't know test you want to get.

1001
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: Us started you have a team and they're they're over,

1002
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 4: and under and we can see where.

1003
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: We Lie The, brooklyn nets the Borough Of new york

1004
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: that has a great. Basketball team their line is forty

1005
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: three point Five h they Just Added kyrie irving to

1006
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: a team that was sixth In the east, last year

1007
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: had forty, two wins and essentially the nuts and bolts

1008
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: of their team is, the same but They Added kyrie

1009
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: irving instead Of. D'Angelo russell, to me two wins has

1010
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: not a lot. To ask i'll just say, RIGHT here

1011
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: i think it's. An over you Also Have, karris LeVert

1012
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: who you could argue was their best player, last year

1013
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: only played about half, the games then went into the

1014
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: postseason averaged. Over twenty he had that terrible, leg injury

1015
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: thought he'd be out for, the season but he's a really,

1016
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: talented guy had a, good playoff so you're getting him

1017
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: back full throttle for the rest of the year for the.

1018
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Entire year Him, and kyrie even A Little DeAndre jordan

1019
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: to solidify the rotation is good enough for. TWO wins

1020
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: i understand that people are worried about the Chemistry And,

1021
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: kyrie IRVING but i think that's a, little bogus and

1022
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: it was a hard working team. Last Year so kyrie

1023
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: is going to come in with a few of his

1024
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: loquacious comments and throw things for. A loop i don't.

1025
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Buy that he's still a great. Basketball player he's still,

1026
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: a really really.

1027
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 8: Talented he's, the leader that's.

1028
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: THE question i don't think it.

1029
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Really matters on that team because they have such a good.

1030
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: LOCKER room I think i think. It's fine, You Know

1031
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: kevin durant is. STILL around i think they're gonna.

1032
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 6: Win Games The angela russell wasn't known for, his LEADERSHIP no.

1033
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 7: I Know but kyrieve's problems last year were largely based

1034
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 7: on him pointing to the younger Guys in boston, and,

1035
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 7: saying hey you're not.

1036
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 8: Good enough i'm the. Leader here so we're.

1037
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Just talking we're talking about as far as, the championship

1038
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: far as him being, a, leader yeah we'll talk about

1039
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: that when it comes to. The postseason but this is

1040
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: just this is a forty two win team. Last Year

1041
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: kyrie erving's coming from a forty nine win team With The.

1042
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: Boston celtics this number is low, to ME and I

1043
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: think i think it's only low because it's it's there because, people,

1044
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: think well They Got kevin Durant And, kyrie irvings so

1045
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be that much Better Because kevin durant's

1046
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: not going to, be there and so that's the betting

1047
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: Line for vegas to pay out the right amount. Of

1048
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: money but as far as, you know the basketball side,

1049
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: OF things i. DON'T think i don't think that locker

1050
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: room is going to go put because they got two really,

1051
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: good Players and I'm. Including karrislvert i'm talking about on,

1052
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: The floor karrislvert for a. Full season that. Guy's Good And.

1053
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: Kyrie irving.

1054
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: You know the One thing i'll say this about the,

1055
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: locker room just one. Last Thing kenny atkinson is their

1056
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: head Coach And kyrie, I'm Sorry kevin, DURANT said i

1057
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: watched YouTube clips of that GUY before i signed With

1058
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: The brooklyn NETS because i wanted, to see, you know

1059
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: how much he was, into basketball like how he talks,

1060
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: about basketball because that's that's very High On kevin durant's.

1061
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: PRIORITY list i think, these dudes him And him Hint

1062
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: and kyrie SEE to i they really like. EACH other

1063
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: i think that, locker room Led By, kenny atkinson there

1064
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: are all those.

1065
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: Basketball, dudes yeah there's a. Massive games there's a.

1066
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: Massive turnover though with all those hard, WORKING guys i

1067
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 4: think is maybe a little bit of, an, issue right like.

1068
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: All those Hard Like, Jared, dudley.

1069
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah Honestly Like, Damari Carroll, At Davis, Alan Krab, Ronnie.

1070
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: Hallis jefferson there's a lot of change that's. All like

1071
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: and some of them look to, be similar sort of

1072
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 4: Like solid. Vack GUY so i. Get it it could

1073
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: be Replicated.

1074
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: Like, Temple Guy Garrett temple prince. AND stuff I mean i.

1075
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 3: Get That.

1076
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 4: AND DeAndre I guess jordan if, he's like, you know

1077
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: invested in playing defense and just actually wanting to. Play,

1078
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: hard YEAH but i think that's maybe a part of

1079
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: why this, Number is, you're right feels a little low

1080
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: with really only asking for two more wins to hit

1081
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: the over with.

1082
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: Forty, THREE yeah i just think, It's, primarily hey the

1083
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: one guy that they signed in the offseason, isn't playing,

1084
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: so betters betters, Just, think okay they're not going to be.

1085
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: That GOOD but i, Don't know kyrie let a forty

1086
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: nine win team last Year. In boston this team is

1087
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: pretty talented, as well.

1088
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 5: And fifty five their.

1089
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 6: First year the ONLY reason i would be on the

1090
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 6: under is an Injury to kyrie puts them at the

1091
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: under pretty easily. To me and that's a guy that

1092
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 6: gets hurt quite. A bit he's missed fifteen, last year

1093
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 6: twenty two the. Season Before karris lavert also seems to

1094
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 6: be a little bit of an, injury guy hurt his

1095
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 6: last two Years at michigan two of his first three

1096
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 6: years IN. The nba will either of those guys make

1097
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 6: it through a, Full season, Probably not probably not both

1098
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 6: of them, At least and if that's, THE case i

1099
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 6: think they might be under forty three and. A.

1100
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: Half okay i'm not good at.

1101
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Projecting, injuries okay so maybe, you're right, but, Yeah exactly

1102
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: i'm gonna say these are guys who get hurt.

1103
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: A lot caass you're.

1104
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 2: Going over i'm, going, Oh Okay.

1105
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: And trey you are.

1106
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 5: Going under you're.

1107
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: Going. UNDER lee i will.

1108
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 8: Go over but.

1109
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 7: Only just but also because they're In The, eastern conference

1110
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: there's a few TEAMS that i think they are just

1111
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 7: simply going to be, Better THEN but i think that

1112
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 7: number for them it's, About RIGHT but I will i'll

1113
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 7: say they get.

1114
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: Forty five i'm also it's Exactly where i'm going. To

1115
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: lee i'm with the.

1116
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: Over task you've convinced me it's, it's very, very low but. It,

1117
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 4: won't yeah they're NOT gonna i don't think they're jumping

1118
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: to fifty by, any means but it'll be enough for the. Over,

1119
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: All right trey, NEXT team.

1120
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 6: I hate to, do It The. Atlanta hawks their line

1121
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 6: is at thirty four and. A half everybody is very

1122
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 6: excited To See. Trey young this season gonna. BE great

1123
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 6: i imagine everybody's excited To See. On collins the pairing of.

1124
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 6: Those two it, makes sense seems. To me everybody else

1125
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 6: and their team got. Worse Though Outgo, Dwayne Deadmond kent

1126
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 6: BASMORE and i was Gonna Say, tayshaun prince But That's,

1127
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 6: torrian Prince Income, Evan Turner, DeAndre Hunter, cam Reddish And.

1128
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 6: Jabari parker, these guys, to me are not veterans who help.

1129
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 6: Your team they are veterans who have ginormous contracts.

1130
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 5: That will expire at the end of.

1131
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 6: The year they are there to take, up space maybe

1132
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 6: get a few buckets here, and there and provide some.

1133
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 6: Veteran leadership but they're not going to be providing a

1134
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 6: whole bunch of value on. The court i'm Under. The

1135
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 6: hawks they won twenty nine games. LAST year i hope.

1136
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: They're better they're gonna be fun to, WATCH again. I

1137
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 6: THINK but i think there's a lot of turnover for

1138
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 6: a very, young team and you're lying on a second

1139
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: year player and a third year player to bump you up.

1140
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 6: And Wins so i'm going under thirty four and a

1141
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 6: half For.

1142
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: The, hawks yeah give me the over.

1143
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 7: ON them i have a little more hope, and Faith

1144
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 7: and i'll be down At the fortress objectively cheering them

1145
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 7: on from the press box. This season but, you know

1146
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 7: Like The jabari parker, came in it's kind of like

1147
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 7: a flyer on him at. This point, it's like we

1148
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: know offensively, he's okay defensively, He's awful but maybe in

1149
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 7: this role something clicks.

1150
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 8: FOR him i.

1151
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 7: DON'T know i, think though the, YOUNGER guys I. Think

1152
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 7: Trey if Trey And john colin stay on the court

1153
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 7: and they're healthy all, season long And Then cam Reddish

1154
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 7: And DeAndre hunter have good SEASONS and i can see

1155
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 7: again In The eastern conference maybe picking up a few

1156
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 7: extra wins here. AND there i know That the hawks

1157
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 7: themselves are looking at the playoffs and they're hoping to

1158
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 7: maybe get to. Five hundred that's obviously a huge achievement

1159
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 7: if they can, get there but it's going to be tough.

1160
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 7: For them if they get off to good start and

1161
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 7: get a few, wins early then obviously that helps. THEIR

1162
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 7: case i just think they're going to get a few

1163
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 7: more than the what is it? Thirty four did we

1164
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 7: say thirty four and? A, HALF yeah i give give them.

1165
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 7: Thirty six, just.

1166
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah the young guys are going to have. TO overperform

1167
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: i Totally agree trey That the vets aren't going to

1168
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: do it. For them young guys IN the nba don't,

1169
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: often overperform and there's a lot. Of them You Mentioned,

1170
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunting, kevin herder plus the two guys You Mentioned,

1171
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: John collins And why i'm going over even though the heart,

1172
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: says over the head, Says under i'm going Over Because.

1173
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: Trey young i'm going to use the word stones for

1174
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the second time in this. Podcast again he's got the

1175
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: STONES and i believe. In him after his first half

1176
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: OF his nba season, last year he just CATAPULTED and

1177
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: i think he's going to carry. That over it's a

1178
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: tough it's a tough number to, get To but I'll

1179
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: go i'll go over.

1180
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: As, well uh.

1181
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: This is a. Tough one.

1182
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: I'll, say overall looking at a lot of these over

1183
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: underlines that they're, they're pretty they're, They're difficult, you're, like

1184
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: oh that's that's well.

1185
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: WELL made i guess bravo.

1186
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: To you there's a reason you make a lot of

1187
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: money because you can talk yourself into the over and

1188
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: unders going one way or.

1189
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: The other with a lot of.

1190
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: THESE teams i am going to go under With, the hawks,

1191
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: just under just. Under that, In fact i'll throw. It

1192
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: out i'll go right at. Thirty four so they're going

1193
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 4: to be just under the thirty four and, a half

1194
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: not getting the. Thirty five there'll be. An improvement i'm

1195
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: still terrified they're not going to be able to. STOP anybody,

1196
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: i hope. You Know john collins shuts.

1197
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 5: Me.

1198
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: Up uh being sort of the backbone of the Defense

1199
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 4: And DeAndrea hunter coming in as a rookie being asked

1200
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 4: to maybe be the best defender out on the wing

1201
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: not going to. Be easy but that was, you know

1202
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: his sort of a glowing skill set when he was

1203
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 4: in college a, Great defender so maybe they proved. Me

1204
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: WRONG but I think i'm gonna have some very, high scoring.

1205
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 4: Entertaining games but they're, not gonna, you know not going

1206
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 4: to be jumping up to a five hundred win team by.

1207
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 4: Any Means so i'm going just just with the under

1208
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 4: uh In. The, lacks no they they the good thing,

1209
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: for them and they play in atrocious, division really so

1210
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: there are a lot of teams In the east where,

1211
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: you're like Maybe the hawks are just better like, be it,

1212
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: You know Calves and wizards And and hornets and stuff.

1213
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: Like that maybe there are wins to be.

1214
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: Had there they. Gotta get they gotta get, those wins that's.

1215
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: For sure if they if they want to hit, this

1216
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: over those are those sort of gimme wins against the bottom.

1217
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: Barrel teams, All, right lee what?

1218
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 8: YOU got i am Taking The. Denver.

1219
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 7: NUGGETS say i listed it as fifty two and a

1220
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 7: half wins on. The season they had fifty four. Last

1221
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 7: Season now i've Picked the nuggets to finish top Of.

1222
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 7: The west I've got JOKICH, for Mvp and I've Got

1223
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 7: mike Malone for coach Of. The YEAR so i absolutely

1224
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 7: believe they're going to win more than fifty two and a.

1225
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 7: HALF games i think sixties IN play i think it's

1226
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 7: probably closer through about. Fifty seven BUT what i Like

1227
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 7: about denver is basically they brought back EVERYBODY and i like.

1228
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 7: That continuity and then They Added jeremy grant as well,

1229
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 7: via trade another GOOD player i think fits their sort

1230
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 7: of style. Of game he can get up and down,

1231
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 7: the floor he can catch, those oops he, can finish he,

1232
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 7: can DEFEND and i just feel that with all the

1233
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 7: other changes In The, western conference the ONE consistency i

1234
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 7: like is Just what denver did. LAST season i think

1235
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 7: getting to the playoffs was a fantastic experience, for them

1236
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 7: Beating The San. Antonio, spurs obviously they lost that home

1237
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 7: game Seven To Portland, trade BLAZER but.

1238
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 8: I think all that growth.

1239
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 7: Is. Important Now If nikolay yokich can make that leap

1240
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 7: TO the mvp finished fourth, last season Then clearly denver

1241
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 7: is going to win.

1242
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 8: MORE games a few.

1243
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 7: Questions though About, the nuggets, of course was season a

1244
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 7: bit of a flash in? The pan did they catch?

1245
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 7: Teams off can they now live up to? Those expectations

1246
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 7: can they continue to defend as? They improved a lot

1247
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 7: last season and can they win on. THE road a

1248
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 7: few questions about, that team but certainly without wholesale changes TO,

1249
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 7: THAT rosta i feel confident.

1250
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 8: That they are going to get a few extra wins

1251
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 8: than they had.

1252
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: Last, season yeah they're over.

1253
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: Under total almost feels like it's about all the other

1254
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: teams In The western conference being better that they would.

1255
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: Then drop that's the ONLY way i can sort of

1256
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: wrap my head, around, this because like, you said they

1257
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 4: were a fifty four win team, last year how would they?

1258
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 4: Be WORSE and i think the, reasoning, is, like well

1259
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 4: a lot of these other, teams obviously Like the Lakers

1260
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: and clippers and, all that, They're better so they're gonna

1261
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: just there's gonna be less wins For the nuggets to

1262
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: grab up there against All These western. Conference sos that's

1263
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 4: the ONLY way i can figure. It Out but i'm,

1264
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 4: With you i'm hitting the over on this. ONE too

1265
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 4: i think that. Constituenty matters, You said jeremy grantall Loved

1266
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 4: That Michael porter junior is in a. Weird way in addition,

1267
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: as well a lot of pieces to figure out and

1268
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 4: a lot of minutes, to distribute but they could survive

1269
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: an in or two to some of your guys because

1270
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: they got. So Many so i'm over. As well i'm

1271
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 4: over the fifty two and. A, half.

1272
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah they've got a little Of the blazer's vibe in

1273
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: terms of just sort of general fan looking at this

1274
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: thinking that they overachieved last year and that that's where

1275
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: the numbers.

1276
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Fall into but.

1277
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 6: All there have they not overachieve a little bit last

1278
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 6: year though they caught teams. Off guard Guys Like Monte

1279
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 6: Morris malik beasley had. Career seasons we'd never really heard of,

1280
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 6: them before and suddenly they're showing up pretty much every.

1281
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 6: Single night they had good health throughout, you know Outside

1282
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 6: Of Gary Harrison, will barton they both missed a nice chunk,

1283
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 6: of time but otherwise they had incredible health throughout. The

1284
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 6: season their guys were playing in the seventies and eighties,

1285
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 6: of games which is really. Really, good so, you know

1286
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 6: if they pick up a couple, injuries Here If monte

1287
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 6: morris shoots thirty five percent instead, of Forty If malik

1288
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 6: beasley's at thirty five instead, of forty do you lose?

1289
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 5: Two wins are you underneath? FIFTY two i. Don't know

1290
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 5: i'm Going over i'm mountains.

1291
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 6: Over movies when it comes to the, REGULAR season i

1292
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 6: Think the nuggets And the jazz are both going to

1293
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 6: be better Than the lakers And the clippers until the

1294
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 6: playoffs When the stars.

1295
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 5: Really, playing yeah.

1296
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 3: So you're going over? As well what about you tell?

1297
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: That's, right yeah the number just seems really low at

1298
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: fifty two and. A half they did win a lot

1299
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: of close games. Last year they had like a great

1300
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: record in, close games and that'll probably even out if

1301
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna get geeky in terms of. The numbers but

1302
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: fifty two and a half just looks low for, a

1303
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: really really, great TEAM so.

1304
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: I think they should.

1305
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: Get over, but yeah when it comes to the one,

1306
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: through eight we're gonna have a lot of teams in

1307
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: that fifty to fifty, five range and that's why that

1308
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: number is.

1309
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Pretty Good, all right we're.

1310
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 4: All going over With. The, Nuggets okay i'll do the next.

1311
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: One here i'll bring it to the Table because i'm,

1312
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 4: actually Undecided so i'm interested to see where you. Guys

1313
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 4: go blazers forty six and. A, half oh this one

1314
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: is tough. TO me, I know i know they won

1315
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: a lot of games obviously last year and they generally

1316
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 4: surprise people people started last couple. Of years some people

1317
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 4: have written the moss and that they'll be falling out of.

1318
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 4: The playoffs there's just too much talent In the west

1319
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 4: and they always sort of shut us up and prove.

1320
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 3: Us wrong but.

1321
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 4: Forty six and A half blazers feels like a good,

1322
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 4: line again over. Or under who wants to get? It

1323
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: STARTED because i need to be in a. WEIRD convinced

1324
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 4: i Know where, i'm leaning but it's a.

1325
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: TOUGH one i, lean over you.

1326
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 3: Lean.

1327
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: OVER yeah i think they're going to squeeze in the

1328
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: playoffs and it's going to be hard press to get

1329
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: Into The western. Conference playoffs give me a forty seven or.

1330
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Forty eight it's it's just how do you bet against.

1331
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: THESE dudes i find it very difficult to Bet Against,

1332
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: damian lillard although it's going.

1333
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: To come down to the wire for me in.

1334
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: THIS number i think it's going to take that many

1335
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: wins to Make, the poleseason which is Kind.

1336
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 8: Of barkers they're a good regular.

1337
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 7: Season team they know how to, get wins and that

1338
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 7: to me IS why i also take them just in,

1339
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 7: the over, because again you for all the changes they've

1340
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 7: had to. Their team They've kept lillard and, McCollum there

1341
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 7: they've kept their, two stars and all those other players

1342
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 7: are kind of complementary.

1343
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 8: To Them so lilid, we know is. Very healthy he

1344
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 8: stays out on.

1345
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 4: THE.

1346
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 7: Floor cj you just told me how important, Continuity, WAS yes.

1347
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 7: I did but they've kept the, two stars three, DIFFERENT guys,

1348
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: i know but there are two core players are still

1349
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 7: there and everything runs through those, two GUYS and i

1350
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 7: think that's. THAT helps I think portland's case again because

1351
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 7: they just they know how to eke out wins during the.

1352
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 7: REGULAR season i don't have all that much confidence in

1353
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 7: them in the, playoffs again, YOU know i think it

1354
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 7: was sort of like like, last season they, played well

1355
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 7: they got to the. Conference finals i'm not sure that

1356
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 7: they can get. Back THERE but i just feel that

1357
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 7: we stots still there and with your, two stars they're

1358
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 7: just gonna. Get wins AND so i still also take,

1359
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 7: the over but not by much. A, GAME yeah.

1360
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 5: I think i'm. Going under they've lost a lot.

1361
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 6: Of infrastructure this is the first time they've had a

1362
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 6: different team, at all basically in three for, three seasons

1363
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 6: it's been, you know A, Menu Harkless evan turner hanging

1364
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 6: out on. The bench that's been their basic team for. Three,

1365
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 6: seasons now they got a lot more stuff to. Figure

1366
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 6: out not to mention you're going to be bringing You

1367
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 6: stuff nurkicz back at. Some point not to mention you

1368
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 6: had a Deal A croissan whiteside and whatever baggage he

1369
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 6: may Bring. To portland lillard and McCollum. Are Great terry

1370
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 6: stotts is a, good coach but there's a lot of

1371
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 6: stuff to figure out in a conference that got a.

1372
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 6: Lot better i'm gonna Under. THE blazers i wouldn't be

1373
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 6: surprised to. BE wrong i think they could still be

1374
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 6: a team that wins fifty, something games is a top

1375
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 6: three seed In The. Western CONFERENCE but i would like

1376
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 6: to see IT before i.

1377
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: Believe it here's a wrinkle To.

1378
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: The blazers forty six point five. Over Underline zach lowe

1379
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: had his predictions, up today and one. Of Them zach

1380
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: lowe's Prediction was Portland Trades hassan Whiteside Or kent bazemore

1381
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: plus at least one asset and additional money money if

1382
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 4: you needed for One Of, Kevin Love Danilo Gallinari, Blake

1383
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 4: griffin Marcasol Or. SERGEA baka i think that is a,

1384
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 4: big like what If the blazers do make the move

1385
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 4: trading some of their, you know a young asset and

1386
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: then one of those bigger contracts expiring for, you know an,

1387
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 4: all star borderline all star big be It a Love

1388
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: or gallinario, or whoever And Then zach klouk yeah.

1389
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 7: Sorry Goo zach low has been trying To Get kevin

1390
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 7: love To the blazers for A, long, sure sure maybe

1391
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 7: he's got some sort of a cut of that, deal.

1392
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: Somehow but it, is, intriguing, RIGHT yeah i mean putting

1393
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 4: those type of guys with the McCollum and, Lillard backcourt it's.

1394
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 7: That's Interesting the blazers haven't really had that third really

1395
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 7: reliable scoring option for.

1396
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 3: A while mirk was for. For, years, Yeah yeah i'm proving.

1397
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 7: It WAS but, i think, you know Someone Like, kevin

1398
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: love who maybe he can still get your twenty, A

1399
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 7: game i, don't know but he can certainly spread the

1400
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 7: floor and he's a. GOOD rebounder I think i would

1401
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 7: like To See kevin, love there but he's just got that.

1402
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 7: Gigantic contract that's uh So does.

1403
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 6: Whiteside though that's the good thing Is that whiteside's got

1404
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 6: such a big deal That, he's, yeah true you can

1405
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 6: trade him for players that would be. More, desirable Yeah

1406
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 6: the blazer should. Do it their third.

1407
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: BEST player i don't know if anybody could pick who.

1408
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 5: It is Maybe It's.

1409
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 6: Zach collins maybe he, does well but he's going to

1410
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 6: be playing the four, next year, all right this year

1411
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 6: Next To. Hassan whiteside so maybe he doesn't look quite

1412
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 6: as athletic playing out on the perimeter as he does

1413
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 6: when he's swatting.

1414
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: Shots inside maybe It Is.

1415
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 6: Hassan whiteside he's had some games where he looks unstoppable

1416
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 6: and he's twenty and ten with, ten blocks that kind.

1417
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 6: Of thing, the, CONSISTENCY though i don't, Know who you're

1418
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 6: fine is the third.

1419
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: Best, guy OH and i.

1420
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: AM worried i. Am worried how, the defense which was already.

1421
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: NOT amazing, i mean it was fairly average defense IN

1422
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: the nba. Last year they're really, you know led by their,

1423
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 4: of course scoring backcourt in, their offense which was. Their

1424
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 4: best But without harkless And, without aminu you are you

1425
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: gotta be Praying that whiteside is just, you know amazing

1426
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: in the back And then baysmore like on the wing

1427
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: and stuff. Like that you're asked that you're asking a

1428
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: lot for those guys to be your best defensive players

1429
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 4: at this point in.

1430
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: THEIR careers i think.

1431
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 4: So that, worries ME but i. AM going i am gonna.

1432
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: GO over i do think a move is gonna. BE

1433
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 4: made i could see them being the perfect team to

1434
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: do it because they do have some enticing young players

1435
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: that they, could maybe, you know go and get a

1436
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 4: star quality player by by throwing one of them. At

1437
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 4: Them so i'll just. GO over i do think it'll,

1438
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 4: be Close but I'll go.

1439
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 3: Blazers.

1440
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: Over yeah and just to add on, to that their

1441
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: defense was so Solid Because mo heartless and Al, f

1442
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: rukaminu they don't. Mess around they're STARTING. Besides, Cj McCollum

1443
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: Dalen maybe lollard balance it out a little bit. Offense

1444
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: defense those guys not relied, upon offensively just do. It

1445
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: defensively now You're Asking kent Baysmore And, Hassan, whiteside Yeah And,

1446
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: zach collins who's playing out.

1447
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: A position i think it's.

1448
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: Going to really be Up to Colins And hassan whiteside

1449
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: to find their best selves that has sort of escaped

1450
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: them the last couple of years IN. The nba and

1451
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: That's Just ken basmore is a.

1452
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: Great dude and there's.

1453
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: A great Article In the athletic On By jason quick

1454
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: about him finding himself again and him him wanting to

1455
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: Get to portland apparently last year playing against them and, seeing,

1456
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: like oh that locker room.

1457
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 5: Is great, these.

1458
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: Guys these guys love. EACH other i want to. Get

1459
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: there and now. He's, there uh, you know he was

1460
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: the guy who was loved IN, the nba like, you

1461
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: know he he was the perfect THREE and, D guy

1462
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: so it makes sense he could work there if if

1463
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: he finds. Himself Again, hassan whiteside it's a, contract, year baby.

1464
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 5: It's time to.

1465
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: Have, him yeah that is absolutely the best time. To

1466
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: happen so a couple of things have to. Go RIGHT

1467
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: but I just i'm not betting against, these dudes EVEN

1468
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: though i, DON'T know i think they're going to be

1469
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: right on that borderline of missing, the playoffs which is

1470
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: bonkers for a team that just went to the once their.

1471
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: Conference finals, all right let's run it, back here Let's

1472
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: do why not do four more Teams tast who do?

1473
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 5: You have i'll do.

1474
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: Mine quickly there's not a lot of. Analysis here With

1475
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: The Los. ANGELES lakers i see the number fifty and,

1476
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: a HALF and i see their top. Two players One's Named,

1477
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: lebron james and he had two months Off, In april

1478
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: May and june that he hasn't had off in like.

1479
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: A decade, i mean think about going to your job,

1480
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: two months two, months vacation you're. Feeling fresh fifty wins

1481
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: with him and the other guy, They Mentioned, anthony davis

1482
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: who are, the top, you know amongst the top six

1483
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: seven players IN. THE nba i just look at that.

1484
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: Full stop forget the rest of the dudes on. That

1485
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: team they should be. An over but it's The Tough

1486
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: western conference and their supporting cast is not the salt.

1487
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: That solid and when you.

1488
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: Look at a lot of The Other western conference Teams

1489
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: And kyle kuzma is a little, bit injured who's their third?

1490
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: Best Player but i'm still taking. The over this is

1491
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: a a talent. Driven league gave me, the over which

1492
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: feels it feels like a little nighty because you Look at,

1493
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: lebron's career he doesn't necessarily get to fifty wins each and.

1494
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 2: Every Time but i'm banking On.

1495
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: Fresh lebron to bring it to get to, fifty one zero,

1496
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Point five so you.

1497
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 5: Need that number just, looks, tiny right zero.

1498
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 6: Point five you Look at cleveland, fifty three, fifty seven

1499
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 6: fifty one. And fifty there was, MORE depth i, would

1500
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 6: say On the. Cleveland teams maybe not his last. Ten,

1501
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 6: team yeah and it is In The. Eastern conference but,

1502
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 6: You Know anthony davis is better Than Either kyrie Irving Or.

1503
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 6: Kevin love he will be more of a defensive presence

1504
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 6: than either of those guys. Ever Was but lebron is

1505
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 6: further along in. His career i'm over, as well just

1506
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 6: because fifty seems like such a. Small number fifty one

1507
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 6: isn't even that.

1508
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: Much, bigger yeah you got to fifty that. Last YEAR

1509
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: that's i thought. The numbers that was all.

1510
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: Dramatic, season yeah. That's, true yeah that was bring, in

1511
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: everybody trade, Everybody.

1512
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 7: HERE lee i, Am well i'm going with The cross

1513
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 7: han rivals clip is there, no no?

1514
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: Hold on are You going lakers?

1515
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: Over?

1516
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 7: Run oh sorry sorry? Sorry, sorry YES yes i am

1517
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 7: going over. As, well, Yes yes i'll give me fifty.

1518
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 7: One wins precisely less sports.

1519
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: Betting DIME though i saw This that lebron led teams

1520
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: have gone under their season wins prop in each of

1521
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 4: the last.

1522
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 3: Six, years wow but you.

1523
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: Are right generally they're higher or have, Been higher so

1524
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 4: that's what makes. It difficult i'm also, with, You guys i'm.

1525
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: GOING over, i mean if those two guys, ARE healthy

1526
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 4: i think it's actually a.

1527
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 7: No brainer we just know as Well, with lebron he

1528
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 7: doesn't chase those regular season wins because he knows it's

1529
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 7: all about, the playoffs SO he, i mean they want,

1530
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 7: top four Clearly.

1531
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 8: The lakers they went home court in that.

1532
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 7: First Round but lebron knows that he can win any

1533
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 7: from anywhere really in, the playoffs so He's not he's

1534
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 7: not looking to set any records in the.

1535
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 8: Regular season, All right let's.

1536
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 4: Go to our poor cough man, Down There, trey kirby

1537
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 4: with this. Next one what do, you, HERE Look.

1538
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 6: I, meason starts the, season starts the, weather changes the girls,

1539
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 6: GET sick i. Don't sleep they put the germs in.

1540
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 6: MY nose i wake up the.

1541
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 2: Sore throat it's.

1542
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 6: Not, good yeah that, Being said i'm Taking the jazz

1543
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 6: over fifty three.

1544
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 7: Point five i'm glad you, Said over otherwise you'd have

1545
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 7: so Many angry jazz fans come off.

1546
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 6: To, you man that's one hundred percent of the REASON why, i,

1547
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 6: said yes they're too easy. To find i'm too easy

1548
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 6: to find. For them, but this to me is a

1549
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 6: classic regular. Season team they're going to, Play defense they're

1550
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 6: going to move, The ball they're going to.

1551
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 5: Have a lot.

1552
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 6: Of contributors the, biggest worry, no doubt there could be

1553
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 6: a Lot Of jeff. Green involved there could be a

1554
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 6: lot Of A manual, moodier involved and.

1555
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 5: If that's, the, case yeah we could be in a

1556
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: little bit of.

1557
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 6: Trouble there but when you look, at it they have

1558
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 6: a home court advantage twenty nine to twelve last year,

1559
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 6: at home just twenty one and. TWENTY away i think

1560
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 6: that that away number should hopefully. Come up adding the

1561
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 6: veteran Presence of Conley, And Bogdanovic Rudy rudy gobert is

1562
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 6: gonna have a lot more to bite off this Year

1563
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 6: With jay crowder, Being Gone derek favors, being gone it's.

1564
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 6: A lot it's an even bigger load on, HIS shoulders

1565
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 6: i think to defend. The RIM but i think he's ready.

1566
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 6: For it this to me seems Like that hawks team

1567
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 6: that won sixty games in the fourteen to fifteen and

1568
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 6: they're just gonna be a team that doesn't. Mess up

1569
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 6: they're going to be a team that every game is

1570
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 6: hard and they're prepared for every. SINGLE game i got

1571
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 6: them challenging from one of the top.

1572
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 5: Two seeds over fifty Three.

1573
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 7: Point, flay yeah they Just Resigned quinn snyder two to,

1574
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 7: an extension so it shows that that would sort of

1575
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 7: clear any speculation if they were going to move on

1576
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 7: for him from him perhaps at some point during. THE

1577
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 7: season i, ALSO agree i Think the jazz made some

1578
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 7: very very impressive free agent moves. THIS season i think

1579
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 7: that just shows up everything that. They Lost derek favors

1580
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 7: is going to be lost because defensively he was very

1581
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 7: underrated for what he did on. That team, BUT overall

1582
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 7: i think there's just a lot, of depth a lot,

1583
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 7: of balance And the jazz should again a little bit

1584
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 7: Like the nuggets should improve from last season where they won.

1585
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 7: Fifty GAMES so i too will take them as, the

1586
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 7: OVER and i too am aware Of the. Jazz fans

1587
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 7: you don't want to upset too many. Of. THEM no

1588
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 7: i had a couple coming at me last week FOR

1589
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,479
Speaker 7: things i said about them in, the playoffs because. Who

1590
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 7: cares i'm just saying they lost, for one and, they'll,

1591
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 7: say well we Defend. A jamsordan are you last by

1592
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 7: fifty points in the first? Three games but anything? Still pass,

1593
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 7: oh man that's a.

1594
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: Big number. It is it is all.

1595
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: THESE teams I think I think vegas, could have just

1596
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: like we're going through all. These lines, you know it's

1597
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: between fifty and fifty four, for essentially, you know six

1598
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 1: of the top teams In The western conference And poor

1599
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: blazers are drop off at forty six and.

1600
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: A half.

1601
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: I'll take, an over. That's all, that's, big man you

1602
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Know what i'm taking?

1603
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: The, under. Whoa whoa you're. Always flipping fifty three wins

1604
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: is a Good year? Jazz, fans yeah what?

1605
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 8: Is that?

1606
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 4: That task mel us at AS m E l A s. I, believe.

1607
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 6: Yeah you're gonna snark tank in. Your mentions you're gonna

1608
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 6: Get A tanner simmons in.

1609
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 5: Your mentions, bring it you better.

1610
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: Watch it they're gonna be talking about you on. GAME notes.

1611
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: I LOVE the slt get out. Of here.

1612
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: Fifty three congratulations on a good year fifty three and.

1613
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: Twenty nine so you're just going.

1614
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: JUST under i am going to go.

1615
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 2: Shaving myself, that's okay.

1616
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 4: That's fair i'm going just OVER because i do think

1617
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 4: if they continue to HAVE and i don't see why

1618
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 4: they Shouldn't with gobert as long as he's, out there,

1619
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: you know a top three ranked defense in. The league

1620
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: they tried to address. This offseason let's get some more offense,

1621
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 4: in there which was, you know fairly average in the

1622
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: regular season and then really struggled in. THE playoffs i

1623
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 4: think what they did was enough to bump. That UP

1624
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 4: and i think you, you know you add a top

1625
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 4: three defense with, you know possibly a top ten offense right,

1626
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 4: you know right. Around there, let's say in best case

1627
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 4: scenario with, You know conley, Coming in bogdanovic and and

1628
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 4: LIKE you, i said, you know Maybe even Moody and

1629
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 4: green and to Some Extent, ed davis, you know not

1630
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: really offensively contributing all that much except on. The BOARDS

1631
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 4: but i think, it's ENOUGH and i think they just,

1632
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 4: eke out, you, know yeah that fifty four to fifty five,

1633
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 4: win mark which would be an unelieable.

1634
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: Regular Season so i'll take the. Over, all right let's

1635
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 3: get To. Your clippers what's the?

1636
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 7: Line, up, yeah yeah the line four the clip is

1637
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 7: coming in is fifty three and. A half they won

1638
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 7: forty eight, last season which was it was good enough

1639
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 7: for them to finish eighth In The. WESTERN conference i

1640
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 7: think with the additions Clearly, Of kawhi Leonard And, Paul

1641
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 7: George paul george is not going to be ready to go,

1642
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 7: straight AWAY but i Think the clippers are going to

1643
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 7: hit just over that, as well about fifty four to.

1644
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 7: Fifty five it's going to take a little bit of

1645
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 7: time to gel and to get everyone on the, same

1646
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 7: page but you've got. SOME vets i, think Defensively the

1647
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 7: clippers are going to just, be very. Very tough they've

1648
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 7: got such great defenders across. The board and offensively Again

1649
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 7: with kawhi And With paul george when he, comes Back

1650
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 7: and lou coming off, the bench they're going to. Have

1651
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 7: ENOUGH so i Think the clippers will be the better

1652
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 7: team OF. THE las i will take them at about

1653
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 7: fifty five wins because again there is there is an.

1654
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 7: Adjustment period, you know it may be somewhat of a

1655
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 7: blessing in Disguise That paul george is Coming After, kawi

1656
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 7: leondard so you're not incorporating two players at. The start perhaps,

1657
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 7: who knows. We'll see, you know you're getting one superstar

1658
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 7: to sort of get a feel, for things and then

1659
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 7: in a couple Of Weeks paul george. Comes in you

1660
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 7: have to then integrate a second one rather than two

1661
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 7: superstars at the.

1662
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 8: One TIME so i Like.

1663
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 7: THE clippers i like where, they're GOING and i think

1664
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 7: they're going to win more than fifty three and.

1665
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 2: A half i'll piggyback on That and i'll say over it.

1666
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: As well, to me it's a little bit Like My

1667
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: brooklyn nets pick because last Year The, la clippers as,

1668
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: you said they won forty eight games without. A Superstar

1669
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: The brooklyn nets had a very good season without. A

1670
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: superstar i don't think either team's going to forget how to,

1671
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: work hard just just, because, so yeah you had two

1672
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: superstars to that give me the over of those fifty

1673
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: three and a.

1674
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 6: Half wins i'm, with, you guys forty eight win team,

1675
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 6: last year if you Added Just paul george Or Just,

1676
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 6: KAWHI leonard i think you're getting close to. The, OVER

1677
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 6: anyways i at fifty, four wins so you add two,

1678
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 6: of them even if they only play sixty games apiece.

1679
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 5: Over it give me.

1680
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 4: The under i'll take. The under i'll put them exactly at.

1681
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 4: Fifty three so. It's good it's a perfect line in,

1682
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 4: my OPINION because i do think teams Like the Jazz,

1683
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 4: and Nuggets and i'm sort of still high On the

1684
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 4: lakers winning a ton of games in the. Regular season

1685
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: at least somebody's got to, be there like in that

1686
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 4: third or, four spot probably around the fifty three win

1687
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 4: mark when you're just doing. The MATH so i Think

1688
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: the clippers will just come. Under this obviously they're going

1689
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 4: to be a come playoff time and no one's going

1690
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 4: to want to play. Them, all right final, team here

1691
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 4: and then we can make some locks before we wrap.

1692
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: This up sixers fifty four and, a, HALF guys i am.

1693
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 4: GOING over i Think the sixers are that we've talked about.

1694
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 4: Their defense it should be. A juggernaut there's no reason

1695
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be one of the best defenses in. The,

1696
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 4: league yes is there enough scoring shooting mainly big. Question

1697
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 4: mark but some of you guys are Back In joel

1698
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 4: embiid AS an mvp sort of type of, SEASON here

1699
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 4: I think simmons, is gonna, you Know take he's just

1700
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 4: going to. Get better being that the ag Is and,

1701
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 4: horford's awesome he's the underrated. Awesome guy tobias now in

1702
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 4: a comfortable role In. THE east i think they. HIT

1703
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 4: this i actually think they hit. This Comfortably so i'm

1704
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 4: going over on. The sixers where do you?

1705
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: Guys fall.

1706
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 5: I'm going over. As well.

1707
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 6: The starting lineup is going to. Be great, the size

1708
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 6: the talent is. All there the, main injury the main

1709
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 6: worry will certainly. Be injuries as Long As joel embiid can,

1710
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 6: STAY healthy i think they're. Over that, being said he's

1711
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 6: a little bit. Like me he couldn't stop getting sick

1712
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 6: during the playoffs. Last year we got to get me

1713
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 6: and him into like a hyperbaric chamber or something where.

1714
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 5: It's just our. Own germs we're not dealing with. Anybody,

1715
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 5: Else yeah i'll take the under.

1716
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 7: On them i'll take the under for, that reason Just

1717
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 7: that joell he does, get injury he is a little injury.

1718
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 7: PRONOT times. I like i love the Addition Of. AL

1719
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 7: horford i want To See ben simmons take a big

1720
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 7: leap as far as shooting, the ball which we haven't,

1721
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 7: seen IT and i don't think it's, Gonna HAPPEN so

1722
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 7: i think teams are going to kind of try to

1723
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 7: figure Out the sixers a. LITTLE bit i think they're

1724
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 7: still a very, good TEAM but i think fifty three

1725
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 7: is about a. Fair Number but i'll take them. At that,

1726
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 7: excuse me they're fifty four and. A half i'll take

1727
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 7: them at fifty.

1728
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 2: Three minutes it's a.

1729
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: BIG line i see that number and it just just,

1730
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 1: sticks out just Like The milwaukee bucks line at fifty

1731
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: seven and. A half i understand those are the two

1732
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: favorites In The, eastern CONFERENCE but i Think the bucks

1733
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: line kind of scared me off Of the, sixers line

1734
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: if that. Makes sense they both just seem a little.

1735
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: Too big but like, You, Said skeetz i'm fine going

1736
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: over because, you know they got that fifty one hit

1737
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: that fifty one number, last Year And al horford's good

1738
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: for a few, WINS period, i think just simply, simply

1739
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: HIM and i think this defense is going to get

1740
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: them a lot of regular. Season Wins so i'm fine,

1741
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: going over even though it's it's a, big number and

1742
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: it'd be fine if they hit, you know an anywhere

1743
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: between fifty and. Fifty four but this team is just,

1744
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: too good. YOU know i look BACK and, i, think

1745
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: well they got fifty one. Last year this team has

1746
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: got or got an injection. Of talent this team is

1747
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: good enough to get to fifty five even though.

1748
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: It's BIG and i.

1749
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 4: Wonder If the Bucks and sixers appearing to be significantly

1750
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 4: better than any of the other teams In The. EASTERN

1751
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 4: conference i wonder if that actually helps their sort of

1752
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 4: like regular season race to rack. Up wins like the

1753
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 4: idea of both those both, those teams if they think

1754
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 4: they're going to be meeting In An eastern, conference finals

1755
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 4: there might be some incentive to actually get that one

1756
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 4: seed and and really maybe maybe play some guys some

1757
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 4: minutes they shouldn't be in and games maybe they should

1758
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 4: be getting. SOME rests i wonder if that, manifests itself

1759
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: or if one of them will, be like, who cares

1760
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 4: we can go win on.

1761
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 3: The road so we. Will SEE but i am hitting the.

1762
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 4: Over, all right let's, get uh let's just lock in our.

1763
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 4: Locks here you can only pick. One now it can

1764
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 4: be one of the teams we, just addressed or it

1765
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 4: could be an entire, you know team and over under

1766
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: bet a completely different. One task what's your lock here for?

1767
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,520
Speaker 4: Over under make us some money money, Millis.

1768
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: Hmmm i'm gonna stick with. My nets over forty three

1769
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: and a half just seems. Too low.

1770
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 2: That's it locked, It in lock, it, In.

1771
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 5: Right i'm gonna lock in The new.

1772
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 6: Ephoria Skates the pacers under forty six point five forty

1773
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 6: eight wins, last year but you look at.

1774
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 5: Their team they lost their top.

1775
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 6: Three guys in minutes bad, Young Boy i'm Bogdanovic And.

1776
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 6: Darren collison if you've extended out even further of their

1777
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 6: top ten guys in, minutes played if You Include, victor

1778
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 6: oladipo they are going to be missing seven of those

1779
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 6: guys to start. The season and number nine Is like,

1780
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 6: Doug McDermott so you're really scraping the bottom wall. Barrow

1781
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 6: There demonta sabonis. Already upset we're not sure if he'll

1782
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 6: eat and be around as. Of tomorrow With, the pacers

1783
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 6: they Brought In, malcolm brogden who is somewhere between a

1784
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 6: second and the, fourth option now being cast as the.

1785
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,440
Speaker 6: First option he'll be perfect Next, to Oladipo but oladipo's

1786
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 6: not There until December.

1787
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: OR.

1788
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 6: January tj warren hasn't played an important game yet IN his.

1789
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 6: Nba career he can score a lot of points for.

1790
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 6: Bad teams can he do it for a? Decent team.

1791
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 6: We'll See And jeremy lamb. He's fine he had a

1792
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 6: nice year For the hornets last year when. Nobody cared

1793
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 6: let's see you do it with a little bit of pressure.

1794
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 5: On you i'm super Under the.

1795
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 6: PACERS here i think they're about a five hundred Team

1796
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 6: unless oladipo comes back right away and, he's incredible?

1797
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: All right lock.

1798
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 4: That One ut ray says under forty six and a

1799
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 4: half On, The, pacers lee what?

1800
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 3: You Got the nuggets?

1801
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 7: There there, my luck they're going to win more than

1802
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 7: fifty two and a. HALF games i just think for

1803
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 7: all THE reasons i, described earlier, good team, solid team,

1804
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 7: good defensively at got a great home, court advantage and

1805
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 7: a good coach AND an.

1806
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 8: MVP candidate i think they're up for a.

1807
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 7: GOOD season i hope they do live up to these, the,

1808
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 7: hype really because it'd be great To see denver actually

1809
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 7: cashing and be a good team because they been a

1810
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 7: great team for a.

1811
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 8: Long time lock.

1812
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: It in i'm gonna piggyback with the man. Tre here

1813
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna i'm like brand you're A. Hod or i'm

1814
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 4: jumping on your. Back here i'm going Pacer going pacers

1815
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 4: under forty six and a half. As well they were,

1816
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 4: TWENTY fourth i believe last Season when oladipo. Went down

1817
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 4: this is a big part. Of it there's no doubt

1818
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 4: if Like when oladipo, comes back and when he, comes

1819
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 4: back what he even looks like coming back. From injury

1820
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: they lost five of their top seven scores from a.

1821
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: Year ago they're still gonna be a, decent team, no

1822
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 4: doubt and probably in. The PLAYOFFS but i think that

1823
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 4: line is a little. Too HIGH so i am Also

1824
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 4: going pacers under forty six and. A half let's hear from.

1825
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 4: You guys Jump on twitter hashtag no Dunks at no.

1826
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 4: Dunks inc what's?

1827
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 3: Your one?

1828
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 4: You know lock it in over under. Team bet we

1829
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 4: got our lines from, bet online, dot ag but you

1830
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 4: can grab yours from wherever. You want they differ a

1831
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: little bit from spot, to spot but let us Know.

1832
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 4: On twitter we're gonna call, it, here guys one more

1833
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,799
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1834
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,400
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1835
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: here On the athletic as part of The As no.

1836
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,680
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1837
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,120
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1838
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,760
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1839
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,720
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1840
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,240
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1841
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,680
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1842
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:25,680
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1843
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,320
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1844
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,519
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1845
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1849
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,200
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1850
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:49,519
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1851
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:55,640
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1852
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:57,559
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1853
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,760
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