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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. I love them.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of them.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear that both tonight. Big job there, crack.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we kind of like this twice a week then

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Speaker 4: not live today incidentally, so hopefully it's a quick edit

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Speaker 4: for our man Code Blue. It's episode five oh eight

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Speaker 4: of the Anak and Floran podcast. It is Wednesday, August

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Speaker 4: twenty eighth. The year is twenty twenty four. It's episode

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Speaker 4: five oh eight. Kenny, Can I talk cell phones here

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Speaker 4: for a minute? Can I talk area codes? Can I

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Speaker 4: talk ludicris?

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Speaker 1: You sure can?

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Speaker 5: I've got I mean, I wish.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sing I've got hose in different area codes,

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Speaker 4: but I will say when I was doing a fucking

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Speaker 4: plank this morning, that song came on and we did

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Speaker 4: not hit next.

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Speaker 5: We kept that song going. Ken Flow and I are.

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Speaker 4: From the Metro West area of Boston, Massachusetts, and our

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Speaker 4: cell phones begin with the first six numbers the same,

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Speaker 4: but the first three is that area code.

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Speaker 5: Can Flow five oh eight, and I've.

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Speaker 6: Yet to meet someone else with the same first six digits,

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Speaker 6: right it was, and let's just.

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Speaker 4: Say yeah, I mean, we ain't gonna get into those

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Speaker 4: second three because ken Flow will pull a pistol from

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Speaker 4: his hip so quickly. But it's episode five oh eight

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Speaker 4: to the end con Floran podcast, and I think the

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Speaker 4: only thing that would top it for a couple of

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Speaker 4: Massachusetts guys is probably episode six one seven, because that

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Speaker 4: is the area code that is synonymous with the city

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Speaker 4: of Boston, Massachusetts. Cody, put your fucking New Hampshire six

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Speaker 4: to oh three away. Yeah, we will book nomar Garcia

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Speaker 4: para on episode six one seven. We will dust past

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Speaker 4: episode six' oh three. Oh my, such rapidity, Cody, to

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Speaker 4: get to six one seven with respect to the great

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Speaker 4: state of New Hampshire, you put me in a bad

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Speaker 4: spot here.

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Speaker 5: It's episode five oh eight.

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Speaker 4: We have the great Bert Watson coming up here shortly,

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Speaker 4: and we will also be joined by Miiden the Legend

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Speaker 4: Santos after a quick knockout to become the season thirty

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Speaker 4: two Season thirty two, I mean, Donina Cruz is like Jesus,

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Speaker 4: what are you guys talking about? For five hundred and

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Speaker 4: eight episodes of Danak Andflormn podcast, thirty two seasons of

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Speaker 4: The Ultimate Fighter. Myron Santos seems like a really good dude. Bilingual, yeah,

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Speaker 4: outstanding power, a lot of different skills.

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Speaker 5: Says he's the next election pa Data. He's scheduled to

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Speaker 5: join us here coming up as well.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to ask you quickly about some news

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Speaker 4: that has, I guess come to the surface a little

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Speaker 4: bit insofar as Dana White being on a hot microphone

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Speaker 4: after Dana White's Contender series on Tuesday Night and addressing

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Speaker 4: the heavyweight situation. And I don't know if you have

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Speaker 4: addressed addressed this publicly or not, but the cliche, the

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Speaker 4: trite phraseology is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe when it comes to parts of

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Speaker 4: this heavyweight equation that has been the reality for the

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Speaker 4: promotion the UFC. On one hand, you have the consensus

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Speaker 4: greatest MMA fighter of all time, John Jones. On the

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Speaker 4: other side, you have the consensus greatest UFC heavyweight production

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Speaker 4: wise on paper and Steve A.

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Speaker 1: Miacich.

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Speaker 4: They put a fight between those two together. However, many times,

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Speaker 4: not Tony and Kabie, but they put it together a

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Speaker 4: couple times, right, and for the latest iteration, John Jones

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Speaker 4: tore his pectoral muscle and the fight went away.

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Speaker 5: So what is a promotion to do?

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Speaker 4: You could strip the greatest of all time, John Jones,

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Speaker 4: but you certainly want him in the red corner for

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Speaker 4: the undisputed title defense that hopefully happens November sixteenth at

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Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden. And you can't really take the opportunity

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Speaker 4: away from step A. As Dana White iterated at his post

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Speaker 4: event press conference on Tuesday, So yeah, like I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of what Kevin Ioli was asking is difficult.

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Speaker 4: That Stipe hasn't won a fight Kenny since twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: but largely in this situation, I'm not sure the UFC

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Speaker 6: It's a tough one, right, because you know the guys

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Speaker 6: Jones and CPA Mitchi meet that criteria and to do

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Speaker 6: that right, to do something else would be pretty disrespectful

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Speaker 6: at this point. And I also think that those are

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Speaker 6: UFC is in the situation they're in. They're trying to

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Speaker 6: I think those guys are absolutely deserving of that opportunity.

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Speaker 6: That's going to be a huge payday for both those guys.

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Speaker 6: It's a big legacy fight, and I think it makes sense.

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Speaker 4: The bigger fight for the fan base, the more appetizing

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Speaker 4: fight for the fan base, is John Jones versus Tom Aspinall.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the bigger box office fight is

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Speaker 4: presumed to be, John Jones versus step A Miatchich, Right,

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Speaker 4: maybe that would be the bigger draw. Even if step

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Speaker 4: A hasn't fought since he was thirty eight and will

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Speaker 4: be forty two when this fight comes around. The UFC

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Speaker 4: couldn't have necessarily forecasted that Tom Aspinall would become this

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Speaker 4: other worldly interim UFC heavyweight champion, that the fan base

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Speaker 4: has such an appetite to see fight John Jones, and

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Speaker 5: But steep A, if he has.

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Speaker 4: Been healthy this whole time and ready to go, presumably

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Speaker 4: on a couple of different dates. You're not going to

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Speaker 4: take the opportunity away from him. John Jones is not

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Speaker 4: going to vacate the way Uri pro Hosker or Jamal

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Speaker 4: Hill did. And how would you ever want him to

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Speaker 4: do that? You know, and managerially for John Jones' legacy,

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Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, dude, I wouldn't take the aspenhalf fight.

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Speaker 7: I love youbody.

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Speaker 4: Take your ten or fifteen million againsteep A, and you know,

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Speaker 4: go make appearances for you know, one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Sorry, Johnny, I know your rates probably

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Speaker 4: twice that, right, I don't know, Kenny. That's really all

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Speaker 4: I have on that. There are certainly times where I

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Speaker 4: told the line I don't necessarily come to the UFC's defense,

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Speaker 4: but I was glad to see Dana address it the

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Speaker 4: way he did. Like, I'm not sure they could have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, John, Why are you always underestimating people's worth?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's constant.

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Speaker 1: Constant no, listen, no, yeah, listen. It's tough.

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Speaker 6: I think people are so excited about this version of

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Speaker 6: see it right now. I also think that people don't

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Speaker 6: fully understand because we have so many great fans. Great,

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Speaker 6: they're awesome, I love them, But there are a lot

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Speaker 6: of new fans who who weren't around for I'm John

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Speaker 6: Jones and for a lot of guys that don't understand

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Speaker 6: how difficult it is to just be undefeated in this sport.

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Speaker 6: Let's actually scratch that of how difficult it is to

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Speaker 1: Just to get to the UFC is difficult.

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Speaker 6: To get one win of the UFC, is difficult to

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Speaker 1: Is even more difficult to.

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Speaker 6: Win the belt and defend the belt and be undefeated

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Speaker 6: for all those years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he has the loss against Matt Hamill.

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Speaker 6: I don't count that, but right, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 6: discounting John Jones, like, yeah, I know he's old news.

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Speaker 1: I assure you what he has accomplished is insane.

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Speaker 6: If you're going to give someone that level of respect

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Speaker 1: It's someone like a John Jones.

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Speaker 6: You know, you know, the old lion has the right

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Speaker 5: I love it, and there are a lot of different

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: The competitive nature of the fight. We have spent some

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Speaker 4: steep A mia Chich will be? And I will stall

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be suggested that tom Aspinall would

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Speaker 4: But gosh, when this fight was going to happen a

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Speaker 6: Well, it's tough to tell because we haven't seen Steepe

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Speaker 6: not going to take a challenge lightly. He's going to

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Speaker 6: an amazing legacy for him, already has an amazing, amazing

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Speaker 6: So I think that, you know, we could see a

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Speaker 6: You know, John Jones is just that good. However, there's

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Speaker 6: no question in my mind that Stepe is a guy

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Speaker 6: that you must take seriously.

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Speaker 1: Again, you hear the.

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Speaker 6: Cliche power is the last thing to go. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: but that is true. And Stepe has been a knockout artist.

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Speaker 6: He's deadly with his hands and I think also tends

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Speaker 4: And how many heavyweight minutes does John Jones have a

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Speaker 4: couple against cyro Gone? And excuse me now, all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you look up in UFC two eighty five

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Speaker 4: just five days ago.

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Speaker 5: A man changed his life forever.

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Speaker 4: That man is Miighten, the legend Santo still wearing the

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Speaker 4: ultimate Fighter gear. How about Ken Flow competing on season

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Speaker 4: one in April of five. And now we are joined

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Speaker 4: by the winner of season thirty two. Now bona fide

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Speaker 4: UFC fighter, the legend modern Santos, John Anakenny Florian and

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Speaker 4: nice to see your brother. Congratulations. How we doing thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 7: We're doing good. I think I'm finally I'm believing that

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Speaker 7: I won. Yeah, the UFC, So everything's good.

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Speaker 7: And then I after was without sleep. I didn't sleep.

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Speaker 4: So I want to go back to your first pro

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Speaker 1: Is that accurate? No, it was okay, just a main event.

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Speaker 4: In terms of where you are now, right, you can

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Speaker 7: No, yes, yes, you are right, because it was so

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Speaker 7: That was the first thing. And after that, I thought, okay,

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Speaker 4: So what was the Sean Woodson cancelation in August of

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so again like crazy people around me at the time,

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Speaker 5: You know, what's happened more than you think. Go ahead.

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Speaker 7: But I just saw like the notification like your fight's canceled,

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the history.

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Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate you walking us through that.

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Speaker 4: Look at him now, folks, look at the legend now

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Speaker 7: So my plan is to have one more fight before

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Speaker 7: I don't want to rush things. Like I said previous

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Speaker 7: I'm young, I want to learn. I have a lot

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna talk about names, top five, top ten, no, no,

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Speaker 5: How about this kid's English?

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Speaker 1: Is that your first is going to be your first kid?

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Speaker 5: So we speak in Brazilian, Portuguese and English. In the house.

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Speaker 5: What are we doing.

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Speaker 7: Our plan is to speak Portuguese because the kid will

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Friend, how do you English gets so good?

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Speaker 2: Ma?

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Speaker 7: Man games movie?

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Speaker 8: Like yeah, like I would go to websites and read

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Speaker 7: Do I want to learn this word? So I will

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Speaker 5: I commend you on that.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations on the win and everything else, right, but your

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Speaker 4: I'm the new Alex Paeda, right, even if my man

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Speaker 4: I mean, Junior Dos Santos Segana was one of the

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Speaker 4: Miight in Santos follow him on Instagram. Congratulations. I look

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Speaker 4: and call your fights in the future, brother, and enjoy

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Speaker 4: the fruits.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for waking up for us today.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 4: There he is Byron Santos with us here on the

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Speaker 4: trying to get some rest, and his management is saying, hey,

441
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: nine am Pacific, you gotta do the anikin Floring podcast

442
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 4: next to Ed Cap and everybody else and thanks to Miighten,

443
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 4: the legend Santos, Hey, what's up.

444
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: Bert, My man, my man, what's up baby?

445
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: What an absolute pleasure And I do have a fancy

446
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: intro written for you, But this is the way we're

447
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 4: going to lead in with this man because I need

448
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: all that Bert Watson energy in my life. I need

449
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: to bottle it and take it with me on the road.

450
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: Wicked excited to catch up with this absolute legend, Joe

451
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: Rogan calls him the babysitter to the store Ours, which

452
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: doesn't even begin to describe it. At this point in time,

453
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 4: this man has made an indelible mark upon the sport

454
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 4: of mixed martial arts. Your good friend, my good friend

455
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: for Watson is with us, legend. It's great to see

456
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: your face, man, How are you feeling, man?

457
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 9: I am absolutely honored. It's great to see you guys,

458
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 9: And I'm feeling a little little bit nostalgic here like

459
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 9: the old man, like the og that I am, because

460
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 9: I remember you guys as kids. Okay, Kenny with the

461
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Speaker 9: pro debut, Okay, remember you John, when we first introduced

462
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 9: you as our announcers, sitting there and sitting down like this,

463
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 9: just kind of waiting to be called up stage.

464
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: With that little suit on. Man.

465
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Speaker 9: Man, It's it's one of those things where I can

466
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 9: I see it all, remember every bit of it. And

467
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 9: what a what an awesome road, an adventure, adventure development

468
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 9: to see how things have grown over the years, the

469
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 9: development of mixed martial arts and and just the whole

470
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 9: sport in general, you know, and coming from boxing, you know,

471
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 9: to to what is now today. And I'll say this

472
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 9: with no hesitation, the biggest, fastest growing sport in our country,

473
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 9: in the world is a mixed martial arts on a

474
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 9: global platform. And to see it, to see it developed,

475
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 9: I remember, and I'm and you know, I ran, so.

476
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: You know that's what I'm That's what I do.

477
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 9: But but you know they're coming from boxing, and you know,

478
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 9: and I'm coming from boxing where guys are at the beginning, you.

479
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: Know, you throw a jab, you know what I mean.

480
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 9: And then I come to mixed martial arts, which I

481
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 9: knew nothing about, and everybody wanted to put their hands

482
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 9: on you.

483
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was. That was like, whoa, You're.

484
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 9: Supposed to be grabbing nobody, But but that's what they did.

485
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: And then when they stood up the fight they were

486
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: they were doing like this, and I'm looking.

487
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 9: And within a matter of four years this went to this,

488
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 9: and you know, just to see that and to see

489
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 9: how I won't name names, but you know, to see

490
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 9: the development of it and how it's matured and how

491
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 9: technically sound has become, it's it's unbelievable. And it just

492
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 9: keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and and I uh,

493
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 9: I'm I'm still working. I'm still pulling a plout, baby,

494
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 9: let's go. And and I did a show with some

495
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 9: amateurs and every one of them their eyes were this big.

496
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 9: And the dream is to become a part of the

497
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 9: UFC Bellator PFL. That's the dream of all those amateurs

498
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 9: that I saw. And when I when I say, there

499
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 9: was a room full of them, and that was the

500
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 9: only dream that they had, was to advance to the

501
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 9: next level, and to me, that's like kids grow up.

502
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 9: I want to I want to play in the NFL.

503
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 9: I want to play in the NBA. You know, I

504
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 9: want to I want to be a Major League Baseball player.

505
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 9: Now it's I want to do m m A and

506
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 9: and I want to be in that world. And that's

507
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 9: that's a whole lot.

508
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

509
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Speaker 6: But Bert, you talked a little bit about the technical

510
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 6: side of things. You know, that's how I started my striking.

511
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 6: It was kind of like that, and it got a

512
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 6: little bit better. It got a little bit better, but

513
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 6: you know, I could could you have seen it coming

514
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 6: of like how big the board has become to when

515
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 6: you first started working on the mixed martial arts scene.

516
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 9: I as a as a coordinator, uh and A and

517
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 9: a and a creator and working.

518
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: With events and and and I started.

519
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 9: I actually started first I did I did Latin billboards,

520
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 9: you know, I did the Billboard Awards and I did

521
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 9: so I've done other events as a coordinator. And when

522
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 9: I got into boxing and then transition into m m A,

523
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 9: I can see that it had legs.

524
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I can see the development.

525
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 9: I can see the people that they had in place,

526
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 9: because that's that that that that tells a lot of tales.

527
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 9: For me, it's like your training and like your training John.

528
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 9: You know, Kenny, when you go to a gym, you

529
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 9: right away you can tell the trainers in there and

530
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 9: the way they train and the people in the gym

531
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 9: right away, like you know what, I think, I need

532
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 9: something else or I need something better.

533
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Speaker 1: John.

534
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 9: You get a script and you look at it and

535
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 9: you're like, somebody needs to rewrite this.

536
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: You can, you can.

537
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: I write all my own stuff, Bird, I should let

538
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: that go. But I can't let that go because I'm

539
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 4: forty six now.

540
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Speaker 9: Yeah, but I'm sure you didn't start writing your own

541
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 9: shit stuff, of course.

542
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Speaker 4: I mean it's been Uh, it's been an evolution. It's

543
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: crazy to think though about all of us at one

544
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 4: point in time betting on the sport of mixed martial

545
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: arts figuratively, right, you know, whether it was you know,

546
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: me leaving HEPN, I think Ken Flow, it just was

547
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: just passion for jiu jitsu that sort of fueled everything.

548
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: But uh, you know, you have consistently bet on combat

549
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: sports in your life and played such a huge role

550
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 4: in the lives of so many different fighters, and uh,

551
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: you've sort of towed that line masterfully. I have to

552
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: personally go back to your UFC exit because as I

553
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: introed you today, I don't know that I've ever gotten

554
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: more emotional bringing a guest on. And I didn't expect

555
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: that necessarily because we're all replaceable, right, Mike Oldberg, John Annick,

556
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: every goddamn one of us.

557
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 7: Right.

558
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: But you know, Jacob stitched Duran. But when you left

559
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: for me professionally, just given all you meant to, uh

560
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 4: all of us, and my energy m seeing away and uh,

561
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: it felt like the world was caven in when you left.

562
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: So I just needed to get that off my chest.

563
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 9: Wow, Well it's it's it's It was definitely uh something

564
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 9: that that that that still stokes with me as long

565
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 9: as it's been but a part of my life that

566
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 9: I will always remember. And as I said earlier, was

567
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 9: when Kenny asked about to see the development, could I see?

568
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 9: I saw from the beginning the legs that this sport had,

569
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 9: and as I was growing with it, the development of.

570
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: It and the people around it and the events that

571
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: it was going.

572
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 9: You know, it went from from three events, the four events,

573
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 9: the ten events, the fifteen events, and it got to

574
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 9: be very very a family, very close. And the one

575
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 9: thing that I will say about Dana White, and I'll

576
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 9: say it again, the one thing I'll say about Dana

577
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 9: White is that Dana never put his hands in a

578
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 9: pot that he couldn't cook.

579
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: When it came time to.

580
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 9: Do what needed to be done backstage, or what needed

581
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 9: to be done around the cage or whatever, you know what,

582
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 9: he let you do what you did best. And and

583
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 9: and that was the one thing that I could always

584
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 9: say about him, and and the one thing that that

585
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 9: gave me the ability to to matriculate through and and

586
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 9: have hands.

587
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: On with the fighters and the techniques and the different.

588
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 9: Things that they needed, because I always one thing, I

589
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 9: one thing I do about boxing, and I'm gonna get

590
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 9: in trouble for this, but I don't care.

591
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Uh you know.

592
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 9: They a lot of the fighters at the time weren't

593
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 9: always cared about.

594
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: Okay, you got your money.

595
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 9: I remember a time when God got thirty dollars around.

596
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: Put that in your.

597
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 9: Pipes, right, thirty dollars around. Then it went to fifty

598
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 9: dollars around, and they thought they were rich and they

599
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 9: were getting that. And a guy would fight a four

600
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 9: round fight if he got fifty dollars around the math

601
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 9: is two hundred dollars. His medicals were sixty dollars and

602
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 9: he had to pay for that. And that's kind of

603
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 9: the way it went on. And it was they were

604
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 9: being treated and I was I was always depressed on that,

605
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 9: so I found a way to get closer to the

606
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 9: fighter so that punch didn't hit as hard as I

607
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 9: knew it would. And then transitioning to MMA, I didn't

608
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 9: see that with Dana w or the UFC or the

609
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 9: way the fighters were treated. Now, grant you, there are

610
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 9: some fighters that are going to look at this and

611
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 9: scratch their head because everybody wants to be paid and

612
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 9: everybody thinks they're underpaid.

613
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: But I can tell you from the beginning on, there.

614
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 9: Was no body being totally underpaid mistreated. Maybe they weren't

615
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 9: being paid what they wanted, but they were being paid.

616
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 9: The checks cleared, they got money to go home, They

617
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 9: got a room, and they got a meal, which a

618
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 9: lot of boxers I've known and done boxing events where

619
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 9: people slept in their car. Kenny, I'm sure you know

620
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 9: events where some MMA fighters did that, you know, I

621
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 9: mean they got to a hotel and there was no room,

622
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 9: and they slept in their car, and not only them,

623
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 9: but the whole damn camp slept in the car, and

624
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 9: that that became so much a part of it, and

625
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 9: it depressed me. It hurt me to see that because

626
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 9: I knew what it was to get in that gym.

627
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 9: I knew what it was to train, and I knew

628
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 9: what it was to take that butt whooping and to

629
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 9: get out of that, to get out of that ring

630
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 9: with with with what the cutman gave you the hole

631
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 9: on your face with a gas three or four inches

632
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 9: deep and you hold your hand out to get you

633
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 9: your two hundred dollars and they gave you seventy head

634
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 9: up like and I've seen.

635
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: That, you know.

636
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 9: But then, as I said, when the transitioned to MMA,

637
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 9: it was a little different.

638
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't people weren't making fifteen, I mean.

639
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 9: Five and ten thousand dollars a fight, but they were

640
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 9: being paid and the texts were cleared. And as things

641
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 9: started growing, it started getting different. Money start getting a

642
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 9: little different, you know, the venue started getting bigger. The

643
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 9: exposure was off the chain, and a lot of people didn't.

644
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: Realize that, but that exposure was.

645
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 9: I mean, all eyes were on MMA and mixed martial.

646
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: Arts, all eyes, all sports, all sport, and still today

647
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: you know, right now today, I mean HBO got rid

648
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: of boxing, Showtime got rid of boxing, ESPN got rid

649
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: of boxing.

650
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 9: That I mean they brought it back, but they got

651
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 9: rid of it at some time, and it wasn't it's

652
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 9: still not.

653
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean HBO.

654
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 9: Well, now when you got all these what was it

655
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 9: called streaming networks? But whatever that is? So everything now

656
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 9: is paid per view. They can get it, you know,

657
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 9: But but that stuff was swept aside, man, and it

658
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 9: was dangling.

659
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Speaker 4: In the nature of time. I want to get to

660
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Speaker 4: a few other topics. The great Burt Watson is with us,

661
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Speaker 4: by the way, Amazon dot com. If you want to

662
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Speaker 4: get being Burt Watson greatness through a legend's eyes, we

663
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Speaker 4: rolling and we will get him to say we rolling

664
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Speaker 4: on the way out of here.

665
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Speaker 5: Actually, I thought, you know what, Bert, I don't want to.

666
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 4: Make you fucking do that today, right because I would

667
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: imagine every time you do media, somebody's asking asking.

668
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: You to be like we rolling, right, like maybe today

669
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Speaker 5: we won't make you fucking Oh hell.

670
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: No, you gotta no, I can't, you can't, man, Maybe.

671
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 5: On the way out, all right, I need to ask

672
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 5: you out. All right, so I have to ask you

673
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 5: about your energy?

674
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 4: Uh, and Kenny, and then Kenny, you can take the baton,

675
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: but I quickly have to ask you about your energy

676
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 4: if I could, because one thing that Dana White loves

677
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: is energy. I have a lot of flaws, but I

678
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 4: think one thing that always has accompanied my broadcasting career

679
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: is energy. I think it's one thing I can always control.

680
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

681
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: Bruce Buffer has a lot of energy. Uh, and so

682
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: to you, So, how did you sort of unleash that

683
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 4: part of your personality professionally?

684
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: And Uh?

685
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 5: When did you notice that it was starting to resonate

686
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 5: with with UFC athletes in particular?

687
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Well, I always I always had that.

688
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 9: You know, I spent three years in the Marine Corps

689
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 9: and I was a platoon leader, so I knew that

690
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 9: I had that energy and and and and that energy

691
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 9: is very very very easy when you like what you're doing.

692
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 9: And it's even easier when you think when you know

693
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Speaker 9: what you're doing, and and so you know, it's it's

694
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 9: it's you get to a point where you get people

695
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 9: have a comfort level with you, so they get a

696
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 9: comfort level with the things that you say, the thing

697
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 9: that you do. When people got a comfort level with me.

698
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Speaker 9: They had no no qualms of me going crazy and

699
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 9: yelling and screaming.

700
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: And yelling at him, you know.

701
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Speaker 9: And but you know what, it worked to a point

702
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Speaker 9: that if I wasn't yelling and screaming, somebody thought I

703
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Speaker 9: was sick or somebody felt something was wrong.

704
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Speaker 1: And it didn't work.

705
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Speaker 9: And I saw it didn't work, and I'd walk in

706
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Speaker 9: the dressing room and fighters would be sitting there like this,

707
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 9: you know, and just walking around, and just you know,

708
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 9: in my head, I'm like, hey man, y'all got to

709
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Speaker 9: take that upper notch. You got to take that upper notch.

710
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 9: But then I figured out, you know what, I got

711
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 9: to help them take that upper notch. I got to

712
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Speaker 9: take that. If I take that notch in that room,

713
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Speaker 9: it'll stay in there. So I took that notch in

714
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 9: that room, and I went in that room whiling. And

715
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Speaker 9: then when I went in there willing, and I left

716
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Speaker 9: out of there. I left them like this, and when

717
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 9: I went stuck my head back in the room. I

718
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Speaker 9: wanted to make.

719
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Speaker 1: Sure they was ready. And when it was time the

720
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Speaker 1: walk out.

721
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Speaker 9: Of that room to that cage or that octagon or whatever,

722
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Speaker 9: I wanted to make sure that everybody had it here

723
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 9: and here and they did.

724
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Speaker 1: Man.

725
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 9: It was so it was easy, man, But it was

726
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 9: so much fun because how many times do you get

727
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 9: to yell and scream and somebody think it made sense?

728
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Speaker 1: Right? Right?

729
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 7: It is to me?

730
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Kenny, I mean you've done it right,

731
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: even if you think about, like mceing away and Kenny,

732
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: the handful of times you've done that. You did that

733
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 4: for me in Tokyo, Japan when I missed a flight,

734
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 4: if memory serves right, Yeah, just the ability to yell

735
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 4: on a microphone like you could literally sabotage the entire world.

736
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: You could say some really messed up things on hot microphone, Ken,

737
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: foll go ahead.

738
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Speaker 6: Well dude, it got so real when Bert Watson was

739
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 6: out there giving you the five minute warning, the ten

740
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 6: minute warning, and then finally we rolling. That's when it

741
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 6: was real for me, Seriously, it was. It was just

742
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 6: a part of the experience which made it just amazing.

743
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 6: But but maybe this isn't a fair question, but I

744
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 6: want to ask you what's probably your most vivid or

745
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 6: memorable time while working for the UFC. Is there a

746
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 6: memory that sticks out for you that you think about often?

747
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Speaker 9: You know, it's the honestly, the thing that sticks out

748
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 9: for me mostly is Ronda.

749
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Speaker 1: Rousey and and.

750
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Speaker 9: And women coming into combat sports and women, you know,

751
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 9: I hate to use that term shattered of glass because

752
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 9: they because everybody uses that. You know, you you you

753
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 9: knocked that damn glass off the table. And and for me,

754
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 9: that was that was it. For me was because I

755
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 9: was always told, not only in in MMA but combat

756
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 9: sports that women were not ever, ever, ever, ever going

757
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 9: to be.

758
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: Able to do this.

759
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 9: And I worked with Leila Ali and Christy Martin and

760
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 9: that was boxing. You know, they could protect themselves. But

761
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 9: then you go to MMA where it was a whole

762
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 9: different world where they put their hands on you.

763
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: You got your ass book right.

764
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Speaker 9: They said women would never and Ronda Rousey came in

765
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 9: there and not did she make never to ever, she

766
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 9: also got it and did it at a high level

767
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 9: where it was respected that, you know what, we needed

768
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 9: women's divisions, maybe we need to women's divisions.

769
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: And she stood it.

770
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Speaker 9: And the media, you know, because like anything, when the

771
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 9: media grabs onto it, oh that's a success story, it's.

772
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: Time to go.

773
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Speaker 5: But so glad that you highlighted Rhonda.

774
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: It is such a great point because you think about

775
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: how many lives she has changed, not just personally right,

776
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 4: motivating men and women in their own walks of life,

777
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: but how many female fighters specifically got into the game

778
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: that we come across in every other UFC bio for

779
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: an incoming fighter, right. And I oftentimes like to say,

780
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 4: you know, Connor McGregor has helped my family, right because

781
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: he grew the sport of mixed martial arts to such

782
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: an extent that you know, there's some reverberation I think

783
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: for a lot of athletes and anybody who devotes their

784
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 4: life to mixed martial arts. Bert Watson with us here

785
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 4: on the Anakin Floor and podcast. The book is being

786
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 4: Bert Watson Greatness through a legend's eyes. We rolling and

787
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 4: if you don't know Bert's backstory, I mean we could

788
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: do sixty seventy five minutes with this guy, legendary former

789
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: boxing manager of Smoking Joe Frasier, working with Muhammad Ali,

790
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson of course UFC Belatoor MMA, and there was

791
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: nothing like taking that stage with you brother, you know,

792
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: and I take those.

793
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Speaker 5: MCing duties at those those official.

794
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: Way ins, I guess ceremonial wayans we call them now

795
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: very seriously, and you made me feel really good about

796
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: myself early on as in my formative years with the UFC,

797
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: and I appreciate that very much. So in terms of

798
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 4: your life personally and professionally, I know you're always a

799
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Speaker 4: man who's rooted in family. So what can you tell

800
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Speaker 4: us about I mean, who's the best athlete in the

801
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: family that we're tracking right now?

802
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Well?

803
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Speaker 9: Well, my, my, my, I've actually got I've actually got

804
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 9: I had three, I got two. I got my oldest

805
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 9: grandson who just now you're going to get me the bragging.

806
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: Hey, I asked a question to help. My oldest grandson

807
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: graduated from Yale.

808
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 9: And I played football and is now working with invers

809
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 9: I MD, which I'm sure you got to know who

810
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 9: that is. He is a sports agent. And then I

811
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 9: got I got a grandson that's that's a fullback for

812
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 9: East Strausburg in Pennsylvania, a grand a granddaughter who is

813
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 9: on the lacrosse team at William and Mary as a starter. Wow,

814
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 9: you know, and another female and granddaughter that's that that's

815
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Speaker 9: that's getting into wrestling.

816
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know where they

817
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: got that from.

818
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 9: But all of my grandchildren are athletically, but all of

819
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 9: my kids are. My son is in Ridgewood, New Jersey.

820
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 9: He's the head football coach of Ridgewood High School.

821
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

822
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Speaker 9: And when the football season is over, my son is

823
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Speaker 9: the head wrestling coach.

824
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

825
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 9: My daughter is in that same capacity in Patterson, New Jersey.

826
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Speaker 9: So my family who has been around. I remember a

827
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Speaker 9: funny story.

828
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Speaker 1: My son.

829
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Speaker 9: Was maybe eight years old and got to meet Joe Frazier,

830
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 9: and Joe Fraser had a habit of just touching you

831
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Speaker 9: what he called touching you. But a touch from Joe

832
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 9: Fraser was a knockout punch. It wasn't just a touch,

833
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 9: but he thought it was a touch. My little son

834
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 9: eight years old. But even though at eight years old

835
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Speaker 9: right now my son is like six forty ways three

836
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 9: hundred wow. But then he was he was a big

837
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 9: little kid. Joe did this to my son and knocked

838
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Speaker 9: him down and got him to cry.

839
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

840
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 7: Wow.

841
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 9: I wanted to punch Joe Fraser, but you know what,

842
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 9: I couldn't because I probably wouldn't know how to go

843
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 9: take that back.

844
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Speaker 1: After I after I punched it. Good decision.

845
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Speaker 9: But he did that and he got up and he

846
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 9: got up and he went and he went to Joe

847
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 9: like this.

848
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Speaker 1: From that point on, I knew he was real, so

849
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Speaker 1: and stayed in the gym.

850
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Speaker 5: It's just amazing.

851
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: You're blowing my mind right now, because you and I,

852
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: when we were on the road together, we would talk

853
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: about these individuals and my memory isn't you know, the

854
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 4: go to memory certainly on this podcast right so to

855
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: now hear those things. And our podcast producer is a

856
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 4: guy who spent a lot of time in New Jersey,

857
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: so he's just saying this. Ridgewood High School is absolutely

858
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: no joke, one of the top sports schools in the state,

859
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: my man.

860
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Speaker 5: So that's like big news.

861
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Speaker 1: For an American football fan like me.

862
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Speaker 4: I mean, I would be tracking those Ridgewoo High School

863
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: box scores like every other minute if I was, hey, hey,

864
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Speaker 4: who you kid?

865
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Speaker 9: I got to schedule the first first game again? Yeah, yeah,

866
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 9: I'm whatever. I can't go to. I get online and

867
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 9: they send me. But I'm I'm a pop pop. I

868
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 9: go to every game I can, you know, regardless of

869
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 9: where it is, I drive and I go because I'm

870
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 9: proud of I'm proud of that.

871
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: And I'm proud of the fact that they you know,

872
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Speaker 1: that that that they.

873
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Speaker 9: Have all decided to I don't know if they decided

874
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 9: too or it just I don't think they made.

875
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Speaker 1: A decision to do sports.

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00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 9: I think it just naturally because of the environment that

877
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 9: I put them in, because everybody, all of them were around,

878
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 9: Joe and Mohammad and George and Tyson, and you know,

879
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 9: they all worked my Tyson fights with me. You know,

880
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 9: I never brought on strangers, always had my family. So

881
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Speaker 9: they worked the Tysons and the d La Joia fights,

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Speaker 9: and and my son worked at at at the UFC

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Speaker 9: one hundred with brock Lessner brock Lesson or whatever whatever,

884
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Speaker 9: but work worked and did some rolling with Anderson Silva.

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Speaker 9: And so I've had that and and what a blessing

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Speaker 9: that it's been. You know, I learned I learned the

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Speaker 9: real naked choke from from from Hoyce Gracie, you know, uh,

888
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Speaker 9: just different things that So they had always been exposed

889
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Speaker 9: to sports and the world of sports at a high level,

890
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Speaker 9: which I didn't know was that high level till I

891
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Speaker 9: got it, till till it started circling around. Yeah, I realized,

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Speaker 9: you know, shit, man, this this is this is pretty

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Speaker 9: this is pretty big stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, man, yours is a legacy that extends

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Speaker 4: way beyond combat sports. If you want more from this man,

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Speaker 4: and why would you not at Bert Watson for real?

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Speaker 4: Being Bert Watson, not just a book, a ringside seat

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Speaker 4: to the life of a true sports I guess being

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Speaker 4: Bert Watson greatness through a legend's eyes. And you got

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Speaker 4: me thinking about these principles mindset, commitment, and game plan.

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Speaker 4: And if you would be so kind as to at

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Speaker 4: least give our listeners some sort of we rolling on

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Speaker 4: the way out, you know, that would probably be something

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Speaker 4: that would would be appreciated.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's it's it's it's so easy.

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Speaker 9: And this, this book just kind of takes that to

907
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Speaker 9: another level. Like you said, and I'm seamlessly plugging myself.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's important that you remember that mindset, game plan,

909
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Speaker 9: and commitment because the same things you need to achieve

910
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Speaker 9: in sports are the same things you need to achieve

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Speaker 9: in the lights. And those three things work hand in hand.

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Speaker 9: And when it's time to go to work, they'll work

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Speaker 9: for you. But when it's time to go to work,

914
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Speaker 9: you know what that means. You know what that means

915
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Speaker 9: when it time is to go to work baby, well

916
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Speaker 9: all night long.

917
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Speaker 1: Let's go.

918
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Speaker 4: You are an absolute legend, so nostalgic and great to

919
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: catch up with you.

920
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 5: We got to do this again. Thank you for coming on.

921
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you anytime, my god.

922
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Speaker 9: Thanks Kenny, thanks jolly.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you regular Bert.

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Speaker 4: I hope that contributors wing and find the spot for you.

925
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Speaker 4: You have, Hall of Fame man. We'll talk soon. Okay, yes, sir,

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Speaker 4: there he is the legendary Hurt Watson with us here

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's be clear.

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Speaker 4: that says, thanks for coming out.

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Speaker 5: Your energy fuels me, bro.

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Speaker 4: And to get that from an athlete on the eve

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Speaker 4: energy around these athletes can have an impact. I'm not

981
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982
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Speaker 4: especially because when you guys used to weigh in, you

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Speaker 5: So that's all.

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Speaker 1: I got no question about that, all right.

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Speaker 4: And one other thing that I just want to promote

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Speaker 4: Thank you to our guests the real Deal, Bert Watson,

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