1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noone Pacific. 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He'll never throw players under the bus. 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: He's very I would say Yankee fans will say he's 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: pro player to a fault, But I think he takes 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: a lot of heat that nobody knows about. And I 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: think analytics, I said in my rant, analytics sets the lineup, 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: so there are things that are taken out of his control. 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Give me an Aaron Boone story that you know where 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: he's and one for the team. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, last night I had a conversation with him after 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: Game two, Colin, where I said to him, listen, I 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: reported that as much heat as you took from Derek 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: Jeter and the national media for taking Garrett Cole out 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: of Game one of the World Series last year after 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: eighty eight pitches and then losing that game and the series. 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: Cole told him that he was gassed, he had no 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: choice but to take him out. But Aaron Boom was 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: willing to absorb so much criticism over that move, even 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: though he had no choice but to make that move, 31 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: and he never said anything about it. So I asked 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: them in the hallway outside the clubhouse last night, why 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: did you do that? Why didn't you just tell the truth, 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: And he said, It's not my job to try to 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: save face. It's my job to protect my players and 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing a bit, but to try to give us 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: the best chance to win. And I'm not concerned about 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: saving face. And that's not my job. That's not why 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: I took this job. So that's the way he is now. 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Fans feel like he doesn't hold his players publicly accountable enough. 41 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: But in New York it's tough, so much pressure and scrutiny, 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: and this is the way Aaron Boone has decided to 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: run his club. He's eight years in. It's time for 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: the Yankees to win a World Series again. They made 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: it last year and lost and got embarrassed to some degree, 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: and we'll see if they can pull it off this year. 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm not anti analytics at all at all, and I 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: understand lefty righty, But to me, you're not going to 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: beat Garrett Crochet. In fact, if he threw an inning 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: tonight in the eighth inning, I wouldn't be shocked if 51 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: they just put him out there if it's a tie game. 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: But you're not going to beat him. He reminds me, 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, we've had these great pitchers left or right handers, 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: like Justin Verlander. I can remember Jack Morris thirty years ago, 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: like you just knew if they went into a big game, 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: lights out. I look at the Yankees and I say, listen, 57 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot of New York teams ian the Knicks just 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: fired a coach after their best year in twenty years, 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: the Jets, the Giants, Brooklyn, they're always moving parts. You 60 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: could criticize the Yankees and say, God, they've had three 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: managers in thirty years. Cashman Randy Levine, it's the same guys, 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: but they're almost never bad. What do you make about 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: the argument they're too patient, they need to stir things up. 64 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: And my take is, well, when you're always making the playoffs, 65 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: what moves should you make? 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: No, it's a great point, and I think Brian Cashman 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: and he said this, he likes his managers at least 68 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: on a ten year cycle. It shows continuity and a 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: commitment to a program, and I think generally it works. 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: Now again, it's been since two thousand and nine since 71 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: they've won it all and that is a biblical drought 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: in New York terms and Yankee terms anyway. So it's time. 73 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there's not a great team in the tournament 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: this year. It's wide open. I think the Yankees have 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: as much talent as anyone and this is go time 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: for them and for Aaron Judge, already in his thirties. 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: You don't want him to end up like Patrick Ewing 78 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: with the Knicks, where he becomes almost like a tragic 79 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: figure in the history of the franchise. As great as 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: he is, he's one of the four or five greatest 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Yankees of all time, without question, and he needs to 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 3: win a ring. He needs to play better in October. 83 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: He's so far in this series look good at the plate. 84 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: He hasn't hit a ball over the world all yet. 85 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: But this is a great opportunity for the Yankees. After 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: seeing the Dodgers firsthand, look at what it takes to 87 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: win a World Series, right and again, they were embarrassed 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: to some degree, and I think they should have taken 89 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: that experience and applied it this year. They lost Soto, 90 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: but have they added other pieces, Freed as a huge piece, 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: and learning from that experience, applying it and winning the 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: World Series. It's right there in front of them, and 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: if they don't, if they don't win tonight, it's an 94 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: unmitigated disaster. In my opinion, they are a better team. 95 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: I think if the Red Sox Colin had Roman Anthony 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: in the series, I think they'd win it. But they don't. 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: And I look at that lineup head to toe, I 98 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: see one non weapon after another. I don't even know 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: how they score runs the Red Sox. I think Alice Cora. 100 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: It just tells you how good Alice Cora is at 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: his job. That they've won a lot of games in 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: that building this year. They are very capable of winning 103 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: this game tonight. I think, hey, the Yankees have to 104 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: fear that possibility, because if that happens, it's going to 105 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: be a very difficult couple of weeks in the Bronx. 106 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. I want to go back to 107 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Game one when they pulled Max Freed, and my take 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: was he had labored for a couple of innings. He 109 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: had a twenty four pitch inning, a twenty pitch inning, 110 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: but he was pitching well. And Luke Weaver has been 111 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: spotty all year. I understand the criticism, like I get it, 112 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: but I also and it's interesting on this because your 113 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: bullpen in New York it's not the Podreys. Okay, it's 114 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: not the Podreis bullpen. It's not the Brewers. It's maybe 115 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: not the Mariners, but it's not the Dodgers either. If 116 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: they lose this series, people are going to go point 117 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: at that pulling Max Freed moment. They're going to go, hey, 118 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: that was the moment. How did you land on that? 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was a mistake, And listen, would Joe 120 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: Torri have made that move after one hundred and two pitches? 121 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely not, And he won four World Series and wasn't 122 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: really analytics guy. So that was a mistake and I 123 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: felt that in the press box at the time. And 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: unlike Garrett Cole, who told doing in the World Series 125 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: he was gassed next week, did not say that. He 126 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: said the opposite. He said he still had something left 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 3: and he was ready to empty the tank, and Boom 128 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: did not give him that opportunity. And yeah, if they 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: lose this series, that's the moment, and it was a mistake. 130 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: And you talk about analytics, Colin and the Yankees obviously 131 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: are very very big into those analytics. But I do 132 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 3: think their system gives the manager a little freedom to 133 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: make a decision there, and if he wanted to stay 134 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: with Freed, he could have. If it doesn't work out 135 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: and the numbers said he should have done something else, 136 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: he just has to be willing to defend his position. 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: So when you go off platform, off script and it 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: doesn't work, you just have to be able to talk 139 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: your way through that problem with the people upstairs. 140 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll make the argument that when Garrett Cole was 141 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: out for the season, they you can argue they were 142 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: not a World Series team. If you go back to 143 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: last year's World Series, the two times the Yankees looked 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: like the Dodgers equal when Garrett Cole pitched. When he didn't, 145 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: it was so clear the more athletic roster, the steadier roster, 146 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Yankees roster felt uneven, not as good in the field. 147 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: I would argue, if they got to the ALCS this 148 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: year and could take it six or seven without Garrett Cole, 149 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: isn't that. I mean, it's not the Dodgers batting order, 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: it's not the Podrays bullpen. If you look at what 151 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: the Steinbredders spend, this is a potential ALCS team. But 152 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a dominant team. It is not 153 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: felt like that this year has it. 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: No, but there isn't a dominant team out there in 155 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: this postseason Colin and listen, they don't have Soto either 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: from last year beyond Cole. But Aaron Boom went on 157 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: record the other day and said, this is our best 158 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: team that I've had in my eight years here going 159 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: into the postseason. Of course, he's made seven trips to 160 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: the playoffs and one of only three managers in Yankees' 161 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: history to do that. Joe Torre and Casey Stang will 162 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: be in the other two. But the manager says, this 163 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: is my best team that I've had, and it is 164 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: a wide open field. Everybody agrees with that. And you 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: went to the World Series last year with an inferior 166 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: team by his own account, then you should win it all. 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: I don't see an opponent out there that they should 168 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: lose to. I really don't. You look at their lineup tonight, 169 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: Colin and compare it to the Red Sox lineup and 170 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: tell me why they should lose this game. But Alex 171 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: Cora has Boone's number, and the Red Sox have had 172 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: the Yankees number for a while now, and they've won 173 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: a lot of games, as I said earlier in the 174 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: Bronx this year. So it's a fifty to fifty proposition. 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: If I had one hundred bucks, I would put it 176 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: on the Yankees. I think Judge will have a big 177 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: moment tonight. He's ready for that. This is his time. 178 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: But if you told me the Red Sox are going 179 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: to win this series, I wouldn't be surprised at all. 180 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: I do think if they just had one more hitter 181 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: in the middle of that lineup, Roman Anthony, they would 182 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: win tonight. But they don't have that presence, and I 183 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: think that'll be a factor. 184 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: Okay, your latest book is Dan Hurley Never Stop Life, 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: leadership and what it takes to be great. He is 186 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: remarkably in I like him. I love yukon basketball. I 187 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: think between Calhoun and Hurley there's an intensity that may 188 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: be unrivaled in the history of the sport, kind of 189 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: a Shryzhevsky level intensity. When you write the book, what 190 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: was the biggest surprise for you as the author? 191 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: Dan's holistic approach to coaching. I didn't know about it 192 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: because I was around his father when Dan was five 193 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: years old, and the intensity. Obviously, his father's a high 194 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: school basketball coach in a legend who's a Hall of Famer, 195 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: and he was not Bob Knight, but he was in 196 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: that ballpark, and so's Dan without a lot of the negatives. 197 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: But the way he loves his players behind the scenes, 198 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: the way he never yells individually out of player during 199 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: the game. I wasn't aware of that. People see Dan 200 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: as a monster on the sidelines with the rest and 201 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: occasionally maybe with an assistant coach, the adults in the process, 202 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: but the way he treats his student athletes. He's a supporter, 203 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: a cheerleader, a cornerman if you will, and I wasn't 204 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: aware of that. I assume he just exploded at everybody. 205 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: And I think that part of his approach as a 206 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: coach is underrated, under talked about around the country because 207 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: of the sideline explosions that drew him a lot of 208 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: criticism last year. And you know, at the end of 209 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: that year, Colin, he was after thirty consecutive years of 210 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: high intensity coaching. He was burned out. He thought of 211 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: walking away from Yukon and maybe doing some TV glably 212 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: for Yukon fans. That didn't happen. He's got a chance 213 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: to win a third national title this year in four years. 214 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: That is a dynasty. So they'll have a dynasty if 215 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: they win it all again this year that he couldn't 216 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: put in place last year, and I think they have 217 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: a real shot. 218 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: What does wife make of his outbursts. 219 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: She's his coach, Andrew Hurley Man. She's met him in 220 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: college and Dan was a wreck in college. I hate 221 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: to put it that way, but it's the truth, and 222 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: she in a lot of ways saved his life. And 223 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: meeting her and meeting a nun at Seaton Hall, sister 224 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: Katherine Waters and George Blaney the coach and Dan was 225 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: a mess in college. He had some serious mental health 226 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: issues that he had to get through, and hen he did. 227 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: I think meeting Andrew Hurley was probably the best thing 228 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: in his life and it still is today. 229 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor, another New York Times bestseller, cannot wait for tonight. Ian. 230 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: As always, it's good good connecting with you, and keep 231 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: crushing it. 232 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: You're the best column. 233 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ian O'Connor. So tonight you got got yourself 234 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: a ball game? Got yourself a ball game tonight. 235 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: One more Heard The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 236 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search her 237 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 238 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 239 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 5: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 240 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: with Jason McIntyre. 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Straight 242 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 5: Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, 243 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: accurate stats to. 244 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: Help you win big at the sports book, and all 245 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: the best guests. 246 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 5: Do yourself a favor and listen to Straight Fire with 247 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 5: Jason McIntyre on the iHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or 248 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts. 249 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Rams heavily favored over the perennially injury plagued forty nine Ers. 250 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Mac Jones, whose quarterback one A for the Niners tonight, 251 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: we'll have his hands full. I didn't have any of 252 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: his weapons. McCaffrey's healthy for now, but it's an interesting question. 253 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: If they got into a fourteen nothing hole in mid 254 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: second quarter, do you shutdown McCaffrey. Because I thought I 255 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: was pretty predictable. I picked the Niners to be third, 256 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: not because I didn't love the coach of the players, 257 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: but I got five straight years of it looking like 258 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: this in September and October. They're always banged up, and 259 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are younger, and the Rams are younger, and 260 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: the Arizona's feisty. Arizona should have beaten them. Arizona had 261 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: them after that safety, they picked up a first down 262 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: and they blew it, so it could be worse. They're 263 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: three and one. That's the good news with the news. 264 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: This is the herdline news. 265 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 5: Let's get started with the Saints and Giants. I know, 266 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: not really a sexy matchup, but man, I like this. 267 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 5: I'm kind of all into this game, Colin and I 268 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: didn't realize it was a potential revenge spot for Jackson Dart. 269 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: Remember, the Saints could have taken him in the first round. 270 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 5: They passed for Kelvin Banks with the night overall pick, 271 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: and then they got Tyler Shook in the second round. 272 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: Dart has an opportunity to kind of get payback here. 273 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: He is talking about the Saints. 274 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 6: You kind of have thoughts in your head during the 275 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 6: draft of you know what options are really realistic, And 276 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 6: I definitely felt like that was a place that, you know, 277 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 6: could have panned out. 278 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: I love it here. This isn't just not a place 279 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: that'd rather be. 280 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 6: I love just you know how passionate people are here 281 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 6: outside of the facility, within the facility, and I like 282 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 6: kind of just like the attitude you know that the 283 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 6: East Coasters have and it's a lot of fun, you 284 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 6: know what. 285 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: That's how I felt when I moved west to East 286 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: East Coasters. When I was out west, people say you're 287 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: a workaholic. And when I went out east, you know what, 288 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: they said, I'm a worker They grind out East East 289 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Coast people are grinders. 290 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 5: Well, well, I'm kind of lost. When do you say 291 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 5: Jackson Dart's a grinder. 292 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: No, he's saying, I like the mentality of people out out. 293 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: He likes the grind of the East. Your weather's crappier. 294 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: You're all jammed together. In smaller states, it's tough. You 295 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: get a little tougher out ease. 296 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: Life is short. Grinding is overrated, real quick. Kelvin Banks Colin. 297 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: I looked into some stats on him. I not they're 298 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: from PFF, but it's just one data point. He's grading 299 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: out as the thirty. 300 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: Seventh best tackle out of seventy three. Not bad for 301 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: a rookie. 302 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: It's giving up one sack in one hundred and eighty 303 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: pass blocking attempts. I don't think they slighted Jackson Dart 304 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 5: by going with Banks. Their offensive line stinks. I just 305 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 5: think Dart seems like a nice kid, right. He's got 306 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: the floppy hair, the headband. He kind of looks like 307 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: California cool. I think this is a tough spot for 308 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 5: him without Malik Neighbors. 309 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: I mean, how many. 310 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: Touches can you get Kamas skataboo. 311 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: It's one thing when Malik Neighbors gets hurt in the game, 312 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: But what I can prepare for you knowing Malik Neighbors 313 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: won't be in the game. That's a different Yeah, that's 314 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: a different ballgame. I like the Saints in this one close. 315 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm with you one hundred percent. Let's go on to 316 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer. Listen. 317 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 5: I'm a Jets fan and I remember when he was 318 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: the OC of the Jets. Eric Mangini was the coach. 319 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: Shotty somehow lasted five seasons there. That was probably three 320 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: years too long. He called plays for Brett Farr, Mark 321 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 5: Sanchez under Mangini and Rex Ryan. When he left, he 322 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: was the longest tenured OC in Jets history. Now he 323 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: heads back to the Meadowlands to face the Jets. Here 324 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: he is talking about it. 325 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: That'll be good. 326 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 7: There's still some people in the organization I'm really close with, 327 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 7: and you know, shoot, I like to think this way. 328 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 7: I spent six years as the OC in New York. 329 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 7: I think that's the longest tenured coordinator there since the 330 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 7: early seventies. It can feel like dog years at times 331 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 7: because they're such great fans and it'd be fun to 332 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 7: be back there. So I guess I was the coordinator 333 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 7: there for forty two years. But no, we had great success. Man, 334 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 7: We won a lot of games, and I'm proud of, 335 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 7: you know, the fact that we you know, went to 336 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 7: back to back AFC championships and things like that. 337 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: But it's about people. For me, He's done a good 338 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: job kind of a you know, I didn't have high hopes, 339 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: but they've been very good offensively, and I think I 340 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: think it's a tough spot. The only reason I'm hesitant 341 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: to take the Jets is Dak has had so many 342 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: snaps in this league, and if it comes down to 343 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: some circumstance late, Dak's just been there, done that. But 344 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: if the number gets to three, I would probably take 345 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: the Jets. 346 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: How, by the. 347 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 5: Way, do the Cowboys look outdoors in Chicago? 348 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: How they looked two weeks ago? 349 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 5: Not indoors on that fast track in Jerry World? 350 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: How they look outdoors? Colin? 351 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, not great? 352 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: Huh. 353 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 5: I'll just say this about Schottenneimer. You're boys of Mark Sanchez, 354 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 5: you know he comes on the show. It was very 355 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: frustrating as a fan watching how conservative shot he. 356 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 4: Was with the Jets. 357 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 5: They did get to two AFC title games, but then 358 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 5: in year three you're like, all right, let's break through, 359 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 5: and he didn't have like that CounterPunch. It was the 360 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 5: same stuff from the last two years and then they 361 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 5: the bottom fell off. So listen, how much credit are 362 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: you giving him for this hot start for the Dallas offense? 363 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: A lotder well, I think, I mean, I think there's 364 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: limitations with the roster. I think the offensive roster is 365 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: better than the defensive roster. And I try to be 366 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: fair on this. I've always believed when you first get 367 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: to an organization, I'm gonna look at your side of 368 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the ball. So remember when McVeigh came to the Rams, 369 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: the offense was awful, He got Andrew Whitworth and changed 370 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's career. They weren't they weren't great defensively, but 371 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: they were tremendous and tremendously improved offense. So you know, 372 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: mcvay's it, And that's kind of my take is there 373 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: are limitations defensively, but the offense pickings has been tremendous. 374 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: He gets better every week. Dak is tremendous. They're doing 375 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: this without Ceedee Lamb, So the offensive side of the 376 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: ball where shot he's going to have his most influence. 377 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: I think they've done a really good job. I think 378 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: there's real limitations what they can do defensively, Yeah. 379 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: I'll admit that. Listen without ceedee lamb. I mean, the 380 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: world was on the Packers. Myself included how are they 381 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: going to move the football? They scored forty points. That 382 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: to me is impressive, but it felt like Dak is 383 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 5: just making every freaking throw. I mean, he just nails. 384 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: We'll see what the Jets aid have. 385 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: Also, they've hit on a couple of their offensive line picks. 386 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith is great. 387 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: He's good. 388 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's like a pro bowler. So 389 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: they've hit on a couple of picks. They have had 390 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: some lean drafts. But next year, two first rounders, you 391 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: can solve a lot of problems defensively. Go get an 392 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: elite corner and go get an elite pass rusher. Uh, 393 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: your defense will be better. 394 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 5: Well, I know you like to give me teases. Well, 395 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: I'm gonna just tease this. The Cowboys play up some 396 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 5: of the most zone coverage in the league, and you know, 397 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 5: Justin Fields can't throw guys open, but he does eat 398 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 5: up zone. 399 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: So there are some things. 400 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: We'll talk about him more tomorrow, but Jets for sure. 401 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: Final story Colin is the Arizona Cardinals and your. 402 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 5: Buddy who you hang with sometimes in the offseason, Kyler Murray, 403 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: they're two and two with the offense is dreadful now, 404 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: James Connor's out for the season, Marvin Harrison's dropping passes 405 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 5: left and right. 406 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 4: However, how about this. 407 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 5: The Arizona Cardinals are going to move to a new 408 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: practice facility in twenty twenty eight, and the media asked 409 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray about it. 410 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: Take a close listen. 411 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 3: Trans facility panters, what do you mean? 412 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: It was my reaction that, yeah, it's beautiful, it's beautiful, beautiful. 413 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, hope you know, well, I don't know what's coming out, 414 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 6: but hope I'll hear see it. 415 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 416 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 5: People made a lot of that, people who couldn't really 417 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 5: hear him. He basically was like, I hope I'm here 418 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: to see it. In twenty twenty eight the new practice facility, 419 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 5: and he had like a smile and looked at the media. 420 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: Well, what is he supposed to say? 421 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 4: I'm the phrase tis quarterback. I don't want to go anywhere. 422 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: What's he saying that I'm playing like garbage and they're 423 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: gonna dump me? 424 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Well, you can't. Players aren't perfect. They're not going to 425 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: have the perfect SoundBite. 426 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: I think, dude, you watch that, he's like smiling and laughing, like. 427 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: Haha, being funny. 428 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: Ask yourself this, would he have a market Kyler? 429 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe a couple of teams would be interested. 430 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 5: Maybe would you rather draft someone than could take a 431 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: bite of the Kyler Murray apples? 432 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: He's O Sam Darnold. Let's be real, Well, no, no, 433 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: would I rather draft somebody? Yes, if I got the 434 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: car from Notre Dame or Dante More, I would draft them. 435 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: But Cave klub Nick or Drew Aller, I don't think 436 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm nearly as good as Kyler Murray. So I mean, yeah, 437 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: ideally I'd love to find a guy that bow Nicks 438 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: who's free for four years. But Kyler Murray is better 439 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: than I mean, Dante Moore looks like pretty unique talent. 440 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: But yes, our staff has some stuff. 441 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 5: Seven seasons for Kyler, one winning season, one playoff appearance. 442 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Well it's not a well owned team. 443 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: Oh, here we go. Excuses Excuses from mister. 444 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 5: Callar defending his guy who throws a great ball. 445 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: Well he does throw a great ball, great slider, great ball. 446 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: You know it would be interesting. You and I root 447 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: for interesting I'd like to see him on the market. 448 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: I think he has a market. Give me two teams 449 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: off the top of your head. There we gotta get 450 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: int the Kyler Murray business. Let's go give me two 451 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: and don't say Jets because they're not doing that Well's 452 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: not gonna be Cleveland because they got financial stuff with 453 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: DeShawn It would be a Dome team. 454 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 5: Wherever Mike McDaniels goes Mike McDaniel when he gets fired 455 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 5: by the Dolphins. 456 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: He likes small, quick, lefty quarterback. 457 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: As to ask yourself this, you're Carolina and you're like, listen, 458 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: we got the roster. 459 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: We just did Bryce Young. 460 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: He he's better than Bryce Young any but. 461 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: He's like the same size. Give me Drew Aller. You know, 462 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Listen, I'm not bashing Kyler. I'm 463 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 5: just saying the numbers don't add up. Here's seven years 464 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: in Colin. 465 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: How about the Raiders. What if the Raiders win seven games? 466 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: Does Stete Carroll like him getting the checkouting department does 467 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: not like Cave Ludnik and Drew Aller and they don't 468 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: get the top two quarterbacks? Are you going to give 469 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: up all this draft capital? I don't know stuff to 470 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: think about. 471 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 5: I don't think you actually reminded me that Baker didn't 472 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: work at his first stop. Sam Donald didn't work at 473 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: his first stop. You know, Sam Donald. All these guys 474 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: at the next stop, maybe two or three teams down 475 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: the road are popping. 476 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: Maybe Kyler just needs a change. 477 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: Of Sam Kelly likes athletic guys. I just think he 478 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: has talent. I'm not saying he's upper wrong, but I 479 00:22:52,560 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: think he's somewhere between eleven and fifteen. I do. Jmckley, Well, 480 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the herd 481 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: line news. I think I'm gonna take the Cubs to 482 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: win Game three. I don't know. Red Sox have been 483 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: really good at Yankee Stadium this year. Yankees have more 484 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: good players, two young guys going. You probably take the 485 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: young guy at home, not the young guy on the road, 486 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: although maybe you don't. You play more care free on 487 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: the road. I think Dodgers advance. I think Philadelphia you 488 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: got to get out those seven, eight, nine innings. I'm 489 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: not sure. I'm excited to watch the Mariners and Brewers play. 490 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: That was my pre playoff World Series choice. So I 491 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: think we've had. I think we've been lucky. I think 492 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: we've had really good playoffs in a really two years 493 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. Rob men for its speeding up 494 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: the game has really helped. I like sports, but I 495 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, college football had a real problem a couple 496 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: of years ago. The games were getting like four four 497 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: and a half hours, so they would not stop the 498 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: clock after every first down. Well the games are now 499 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: three to three and a half, and you know college football, 500 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: and I love college football, but I don't want to 501 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: watch a four and a half hour game. I just 502 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: went to one this weekend, Like, I don't need four 503 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: and a half hours. So I think the games have 504 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: been succinct quick. They're always going to go a little 505 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: longer in the postseason. You're gonna have pitching changes every 506 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: at bat, seventh eighth inning matters a lot. So I 507 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: will say this on the Dodgers. You know, Milkie Betts 508 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: was really really struggling early in the season. Now he's 509 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: on a heater. Some of these hitters, I mean Ben 510 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Rice now is hot, Mookie Betts is now hot. It's 511 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: a long season. I mean San Diego couldn't hit it 512 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: all until September, so a Dodgers lineup is so fierce, 513 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: it is so good. But I kind of agree with 514 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: Ian O'Connor. It kind of feels like Aaron Judge is 515 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: going to have is going to have a moment tonight 516 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: at Yankee Stadium, and I just I think the Cubs 517 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: have more ways to beat you than the podrace, So well, 518 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: I'll take the Cubs to win. How about we go 519 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: Yankees really close late innings, And I think the Dodgers 520 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Phillies is going to be dramatic, incredibly dramatic. You've got 521 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: big sticks, Phillies bullpens better than the Dodgers. It's not 522 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: always great, uh. Live in Chicago, It's. 523 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 524 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non a em Pacific. Big Noon is. 525 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: Back in ann Arbor and Michigan's own El Presidente is 526 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: leading the charge. The pregame party starts at ten am Eastern. 527 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 5: Then it's quarterback Bryce Underwood and the Wolverines going head 528 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 5: to head with Wisconsin at Noon Big Noon Saturday only 529 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: on Fox. I have two or three game Blazing five tomorrow. 530 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 5: We had a winning week last week. I think one 531 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 5: of the interesting games like last week, I stayed away 532 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: from the big favorites. I stayed away from the Packers, 533 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 5: the Chargers. I stayed away from the Bills and the Saints. 534 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 5: I thought Cincinnati Denver was gonna be the blowout. 535 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: I got that one right. I thought I thought Denver 536 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: had a better chance to blow somebody out this week. Philadelphia, 537 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they're four and oh in four to one 538 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: possession games. And you know, my take on Philadelphia is 539 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: trust your eyes. The offense just isn't right, and I 540 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: think some of it's a new coordinator. The offensive line 541 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: has all sorts of talent, but they're not playing well. 542 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I think that that's usually a coordinator issue. I had 543 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Greg Cosel on earlier and he said they're doing nothing. Well, 544 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: here's a team that. 545 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 8: Can't that's not throwing it very well, I'm not running 546 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 8: it very well. You'd probably say, well, they can't be 547 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 8: very good record wise, Yet they're four and oh. They're 548 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 8: just The passing game just is not comfortable to me 549 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 8: right now. There's not a lot of clean looks for 550 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts. I don't feel like he's comfortable with what 551 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 8: he's looking at. Normally, they work outside the numbers really effectively, 552 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 8: Jalen is phenomenal throwing the ball outside the numbers. Other 553 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 8: than the Rams game in that second half, you haven't 554 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 8: seen much of that at all. 555 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 556 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 8: To me, it's a mystery. 557 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: It's probably a coordinator. I mean, it's this has been 558 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: a very coordinator dependent franchise under Nick Sirianni. And you know, 559 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore worked, and I mean they scored a lot 560 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: of points in the Super Bowl, in the NFC Championship, 561 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: and Shane Styken really worked. So I mean, last time 562 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles lost their offensive coordinator after being in 563 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts passer rating dropped to eighty nine, 564 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: and that's a really low end starter in the NFL. 565 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: Greg Cosel is the most objective guy that goes on 566 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: any show. And he said it before, Jalen doesn't throw 567 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: the ball over the middle very well. He's small. Kyler 568 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: small too, was small. I mean Tua literally came out 569 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: last year and said, yeah, there's some tolls I can't see. 570 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, you want you want to be in that 571 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: kind of geno Smith. You don't have to be as 572 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: big as Josh Allen, but you'd prefer six two and 573 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: a half an up, you know, like Aaron Rodgers is 574 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: about six one and a half six two. That's where 575 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to start. I'd love six three and a 576 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: half up. You know, that's the reality of it. So 577 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: uh and and and you know the other team that 578 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: we had all bailed on, so we thought, you know, 579 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: he goes it's a force offensively. Nope, here they go again. 580 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: And the team everybody bailed on was Kansas City. But 581 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: they have Mahomes and Andy Reid, Andy Reads a great 582 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: coach and a great scheme coach Sirianni's not. Mahomes can 583 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: throw it anywhere. Jalen Hurst has it. So that's why 584 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm very reticent to bail on Kansas City. They just 585 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: had a bad receiving court. Juju Smith Schuster is a three. 586 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: He was asked to be a one. So all of 587 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, now they got Xavier Worthy, who's a two, 588 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: not a one. But he stretches the field. And here's 589 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: Greg Cosel on what he's see now. Suddenly with Kansas 590 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: at he's offense. 591 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 8: The last couple of years, we talked about the Chiefs 592 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 8: as being one of the slowest teams in the league. Now, 593 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 8: all of a sudden, they're one of the fastest. It's 594 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 8: not just Worthy. Thornton is a burner. Hollywood Brown can 595 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 8: run and keep an eye on that back for Shad Smith, 596 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 8: the rookie from SMU. They are now again pushing the 597 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 8: ball down the field. They did not do that the 598 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 8: last couple of years much at all, and when they did, 599 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 8: they were not very good at it, even with Mahomes, 600 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 8: who obviously can make any throw at a high level. 601 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 8: But now, all of a sudden, they're one of the 602 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 8: fastest wide receiver units in the league. 603 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: And if you look at the NFL schedule, jmckuy, there's 604 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: not a ton of upsets. I think we both think 605 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: that the Jets could beat Dallas and that the Saints 606 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: could beat the Giants. Those don't feel like huge upsets. 607 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: Last week, I stayed away from potential big lines and routes. 608 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 1: I didn't like him at all. I thought Denver had 609 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: a chance that there was going to be a route. 610 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: I kind of like Denver. You know what game looks 611 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: like a potential route to me? Route go for it, 612 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City at Jacksonville. Oh, I'm glad you brought that up. Okay, 613 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: So I was just taking note Toonville is so mistake prone. 614 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: They won that game. I just don't trust them in 615 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: a big solo spa. 616 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: So here are the quarterbacks they faced so far this season. 617 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 5: Bryce Young and the opener, followed by Joe Burrows slash 618 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 5: Jake Browning, and then it was CJ. Stroud and Brock Purty. 619 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 5: So a mixed bag. But this is the number calling 620 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 5: this crazy. Last season, seventeen games, the Jags defense had 621 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 5: nine takeaways. Seventeen games nine that's it lowest in the league. 622 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: This year, four games, they have thirteen takeaways. 623 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: Now is that luck? 624 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: Is that the new defensive coordinator, this guy Campanil, who's 625 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 5: just crushing it. 626 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: But Kansas City doesn't turn it over? 627 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: Well that okay, So that's where it gets interesting. The 628 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 5: game is in Jacksonville. This was three at now three 629 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 5: and a half. I'm on Jacksonville here. I know Chief 630 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 5: and you're a hater. I think they're a little undervalue. 631 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 5: To here, I'm a believer. I'm sorry. I like the 632 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 5: Jags this year. You don't like what you've seen and 633 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 5: I'm not just looking at that San Fraying game. 634 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: The win over Houston was impressive. 635 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 5: They turned over Stroud and Nico Collins in the fourth quarter, 636 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: and then you know the Cincinnati game, they made some plays. 637 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: As long as. 638 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence doesn't screw it up, I think they're going 639 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: to be in this. I like Liam Coleen a lot. 640 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I also, it's a really interesting week. We thought 641 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Rams Niners was going to be a great game, but 642 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: because of the injuries, it's not. The two games that 643 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I look at really really interesting. Denver at Philadelphia I 644 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: think could be really interesting. I think Denver's roster it's 645 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: not quite as good as Philadelphia, but it's not too 646 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: far down the list. I think it's third, fourth, fifth best. 647 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: I think Tampa at Seattle Darnald and Baker is fascinating. 648 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: I like Seattle in that spot. 649 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: I like them a lot. 650 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 651 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I like Seattle in that spot. 652 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 5: Let me ask you one. So there's three winless teams. 653 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: The Jets hosting the Cowboys, and they've been in games. 654 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: They've Jets games, yep. The Titans at Arizona. Titans are awful, 655 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: They're awful, and Saints Giants. Saints are pretty bad. Can 656 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 5: you I think there's a world where all three of 657 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 5: those win This week, all three of the winless teams win, 658 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 5: and now we have no I mean, Tennessee is a 659 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 5: big dog on the road, but I don't know that 660 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: Arizona's that good. 661 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: Colin, No, I don't think they're that good. I just 662 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: think the Titans are bad. 663 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: And the Saints are favored over the Giants and the 664 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 5: Jets lines like two two and a half. So I 665 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 5: would not be surprised if this was a big upset 666 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 5: week around the league, because you know those big favorites 667 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: have been crushing. 668 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: Yes, Colts Raiders, do you have any nervous. 669 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: My favorite peck, my favorite pick on the entire board 670 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: is the Colts at home against the Raiders. 671 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 4: Here's my thing, Colin, it's six and a half. Okay. 672 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 5: If I had told you before Week one that the 673 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: Colts would be favored by six and a half over 674 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: the Raiders, you would have slammed the Raiders all of 675 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 5: your money. 676 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: When I I've watched almost every snap of the Colts. 677 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: They had the Rams beat the Rams off a loss. 678 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: Were mcveigh's been money, They had them beat, and Stafford's 679 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: plan out of his mind. Pooka is the best receiver 680 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: in the league. Their defense is unbelievable. Colts had them 681 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: beat in La. Yeah, Cole and the Colts offense, You're 682 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: not gonna believe this. Number one in the NFL and 683 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: yards per play. I don't think people understand this Daniel 684 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: Jones thing. You got to watch the games they have 685 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: that roster, Warren Taylor, Pierce Pittman. Dude, they got playmakers. 686 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 5: Well it's same Ziken pushing all the right buttons. Hey 687 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: we're going with Daniel Jones, you know. 688 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's it's not a huge college 689 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: football weekend. What I always think is interesting about the NFL, 690 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: the games you think you're going to be absolutely awful 691 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: end up being fascinating. Like from the outside, you'd be like, 692 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: Dallas Jets is a bad watch. That could be the 693 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: game that's Fox. That could be one of the best 694 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: games of the day, because I mean, Dallas can't defend 695 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: anybody and Dak is on fire. That game could be 696 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty three. Dallas games are all going to 697 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: look the same. Hey, Dallas's gonna win high scoring games 698 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: if they win, and Dak's just so productive and they're 699 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: doing it without ceedee lamb. So I Dallas games so 700 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: far this year have been really entertaining. 701 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, talk me out of betting on Dylan Gabriel. 702 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 5: I didn't wake up at six thirty to watch Aaron 703 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 5: Rodgers last week, but. 704 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 4: I am considering waking up to watch Dylan Gabriel. 705 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: You ever ever bet a game with two backup quarterbacks? 706 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense if you have one, I 707 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: get it, but I'll have you. 708 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 5: I know you're not mister injury report guy. We learned 709 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 5: that today. But the Vikings could be down four offensive 710 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 5: linemen this week and Miles Garrett and company should. 711 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: Eat that up. And I think this is like a. 712 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 5: Thirteen to ten Dylan Gabriel gets to win and he's 713 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 5: on people's shoulders walking. 714 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 4: Off the field. 715 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: Not watchable, you know. So here we thought Brian Schottenheimer 716 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work, But it's been okay. Mike McDaniels has 717 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: got to you know, I mean, it's not been a disaster. 718 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: Is there a coach on the hot seat right now? 719 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 720 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 4: Could somebody get fired? 721 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 7: Well? 722 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: If McDaniel loses that Carolina and I'm looking hard at 723 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: the Panthers here, I mean, remember, no, Tyreek Hillcullen, you've 724 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 5: seen that Dolphins offense. They only beat the Jets because 725 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 5: the Jets beat themselves with three fumbles. 726 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: You think Mike McDaniels the coach on the hot seat, I. 727 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 5: Think he's a favorite to be the first coach fired. 728 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he'll be. He'll be unemployed very briefly. 729 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 5: He's a great coordinator. I think Brian Callahan and Tennessee 730 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 5: he's yeah, if they get blasted. Take because Kim Ward 731 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 5: did you? I know we're not allowed to talk about 732 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 5: the Titans because they stink, but cam Ward was like 733 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 5: cursing in the postgame. 734 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: No, no, it's bad. And again, you're an offensive coach. 735 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: You gotta do something on your side of the ball. 736 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: We knew they weren't going to be a high octane offense, 737 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: but cam Ward looked like he's regressing. 738 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the Titans. I was way wrong on 739 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 4: the Titans. I'll take take take that. That was that 740 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 4: was on me. You know, it's a mistake. 741 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: You know what, They weren't gonna win the Super Bowl anyway, 742 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: why not get the number one pick. They don't need 743 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback, so the Titans could have the number one pick. 744 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: And I'll be honestly, if Dante Moore keeps playing like this, 745 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: they could get us a couple two's, a three out 746 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: of it. So the good news for the Titans is 747 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: you got your quarterback and you'll probably have the number 748 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: one pick you could. You could stock the shelves for 749 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: a long time with that pick.