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Speaker 2: There's no question he is the MVP, and we'll tell

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Speaker 2: you why in just a minute. Good morning, everybody. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Football Sunday. I'm Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: MVP himself, former player, writer, coach, scout. Whatever you want,

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Speaker 2: He's the man, mister Bucky Brooks. How wyre you buck?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: I am good Andy? What's going on? We had a

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Speaker 3: great playoff weekend College and Pro, so I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, more importantly, I hope you and your family are safe.

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Speaker 2: I know you're in the LA area, and I want

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Speaker 2: to reach out to all our colleagues, staff members and

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Speaker 2: people as well in Los Angeles. But it affects them,

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Speaker 2: it affects me. It makes me sick when I see

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Speaker 2: these photos on the news. As what's happening with that fire.

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting, and those have been just lost everything. It

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Speaker 2: kills me. It kills me to see that. So I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to hear that you're okay and your family's okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's crazy. It's been nuts out here. Anyone

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Speaker 3: who lives in LA like all those areas that have

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Speaker 3: to visit to see the city so picturesque, you know,

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Speaker 3: so so historic. To see those places ruin, it's heartbreaking,

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Speaker 3: and I just my heart goes out to all the families.

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Speaker 3: Hope everyone is able to you know, hold on to

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Speaker 3: their loved ones and regards to the property as lost.

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Speaker 3: We hope that everyone is able to bounce back quickly.

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Speaker 2: And our staff as well, Shay, Shay and Mark and

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Speaker 2: everybody here at our staff, we hope their families and

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Speaker 2: just got a text several hours ago from Jonas Knox

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Speaker 2: Journas is out there and he says he's okay. He

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that, so and the logistical albums also,

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Speaker 2: think about the travel and people who had tickets for

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Speaker 2: what are they doing now refund them or those people

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Speaker 2: are going to travel. I doubt it they're gonna go

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Speaker 2: to the Arizona to that football game. It's it's a

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Speaker 2: complete mess. But more than that, people have been devastated,

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Speaker 2: losing everything, their homes. It's just it's terrible. It should

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Speaker 2: never happen, but it did. So we just hope you

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Speaker 2: could give you a little pleasure for a couple of hours,

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Speaker 2: maybe get your mind off that, I hope. So we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about what it's called. I guess the Super Wildcard

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Speaker 2: weekend or is it just a Wildcard weekend. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's the correct term book super Wildcard is just wildcard,

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Speaker 3: They've changed so many times. I think it's now known

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Speaker 3: as Super Wildcard Weekend. But regardless, it's a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of games on, we got a

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I talk about this game. I saw the

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Speaker 2: game late. I watched both and look, I know I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of a anti paying for streaming, but I got

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Speaker 2: the Amazon deal. So if you got Amazon Prime, you

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Speaker 2: get the deal free, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 2: I got that. So I watched it last night, and

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Speaker 2: there's been a question can we put it to rest

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Speaker 2: right now? But the MVP, I mean, really, it's Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson received thirty first place votes ahead of Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bill's quarterback Josh Allen Allen at eighteen in the Associated

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Speaker 2: Press All Pro Selection. What does that mean? These people

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Speaker 2: for the MVP. It's gonna be Lamar Jackson and what

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Speaker 2: he did last night. And I know playoff games do

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Speaker 2: not count for MVPs regular season correct, so the game

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Speaker 2: last night will not count for his MVP deal. But still,

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Speaker 2: in all what he has accomplished, what he did during

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Speaker 2: this season, he will be the MVP. Really, I will

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Speaker 2: eat crow if he doesn't get it. Do you agree?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree? I mean, and look, there was a

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Speaker 3: when you witness Lamar Jackson over the course of the

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Speaker 3: he did in the MVP campaign. But when you had

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Speaker 3: a chance to watch him against the Pittsburgh Steelers, it

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Speaker 3: kind of sealed the deal for me, just the impact.

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Speaker 3: And I know people using in reverse, they'll talking about

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Speaker 3: the impact of Derrick Henry on him, but it actually

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Speaker 3: It makes a very difficult defend because you're so worried

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Speaker 3: unbelievable combination to have. And then you factor in what

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Speaker 3: have a serious case against him not to give it

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Speaker 2: Him, how with you? I second that emotion, I really do. Now, No,

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Speaker 2: we move on. Okay, Now, last night it was Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: playing Baltimore in Baltimore, right, final score twenty eight fourteen.

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Speaker 2: It was worse than that, it really was. But right

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Speaker 2: now the Ravens have won five straight. There was a

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Speaker 2: twenty one zip at halftime. It looked like was rolling

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. But the question now, another kind of like

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Speaker 2: All Right? They've lost what six straight games? Number one?

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Speaker 2: Number two? What's the future look like for coach Mike Tomlin?

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Speaker 2: Could he be on his way out? I mean, I

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Speaker 3: Look? And I knew this would be a part of

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Speaker 3: And the only thing that I'll say when anyone says

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Speaker 3: dones in those things, that's one thing. But if you're

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Speaker 3: don't think any of us expected Pittsburgh to be a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl contender. At the beginning of the year. Most publications,

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Speaker 3: most media outlets had them pick forth in a division

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Speaker 3: that was expected to be one where we talked about Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: disappointing they don't move on, but you have to get

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Speaker 3: In the last eight seasons, they've been to the playoffs

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Speaker 2: I want to make a clear right now to everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Mike Tomlin fan. I've always backed him. I

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Speaker 2: love what he's done. I think is one hell of

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Speaker 2: a coach, and I think it's the first ballot Hall

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Speaker 2: at the Mike Tomlin situation right now as an immediate

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Speaker 2: very similar to the Ryan Day situation after he lost

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Now, Ryan Day, thank goodness, has closed the maude of

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Speaker 2: but he's kind of pushed that in the back room,

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Speaker 2: what he has not done in the playoffs, but all

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Speaker 2: he has done for eighteen seasons is win. That's all

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Speaker 2: he's done. So I think that people that have back

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think if you believe that Mike

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin is far more successful than Kyle Shanahan has

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Speaker 3: ever been. He's been to two Super Bowls, he's won one,

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Speaker 3: they've been to two Super Bowls, but they've lost both

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Speaker 3: certainly should be disappointed in San Francisco and talk about

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Speaker 3: wanting to have a new voice. That's why sometimes these

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Speaker 3: It's hard. Bill Belichick is really the only coach and

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Speaker 3: multiple super Bowls like it was nothing. Nobody else does that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so that's the standard that we've created for

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Speaker 2: It's a shame.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because now that Buffalo is in the postseason,

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Speaker 2: that Buffalo appeared in four consecutive Super Bowls. Yes, they

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Speaker 2: of a feat. It really is. No one talks much

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Speaker 2: getting to the super Bowl is an accomplishment in itself,

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Speaker 2: it really is. But people don't give people people want

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Speaker 2: so much. Like you say, the expectations are almost ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: they really are. But last night's game was about a

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Speaker 2: defensive struggle, it really was. That's how the Ravens really

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Speaker 2: won the game. As much as you know Jackson and

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Speaker 2: Derreck Henry were successful, they're dominance the Ravens that toward

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Speaker 2: seventy more rushing yards on the Steelers and get this

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Speaker 2: You know. I looked at Mike Tomlin very closely on

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Speaker 3: Does he have to know what you're saying, because some

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Speaker 2: Will you talk about turnovers? That's how the game started

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were a different team. And you talk about

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Speaker 2: He's one hell of a coach. I mean, he's one

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Speaker 3: This was a team that was expected to be a

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Speaker 2: But here's the question right now, what's next? Okay, the

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Speaker 2: did win. But if the Bills win, because the Ravens

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Speaker 2: playoff because left some people empty. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: thought there were one sided games. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: thought their teams should have been in there. Some people

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Speaker 2: thought some teams didn't deserve the shot. Not so in

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Speaker 2: the final four, there were some great games, not perhaps

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Speaker 2: none better than the Ohio State Texas game, The Orange Bowl,

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Speaker 2: The drama, the storylines, Texas quarterback Quin Ewers, the former

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Speaker 2: Buck guy who transferred to Texas, and his former college roommate,

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Speaker 2: Unreal defensive end Jack Sowyer. Let me do this, Buck,

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Speaker 2: let me just kind of reminisce what happened on a

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Speaker 2: fourth and goal just over two minutes left on the

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Speaker 2: Texas eight. All right town eight yard line. Texas needed

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Speaker 2: one play now the ty to score potentially force overtime. Instead,

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Speaker 2: Jack Sawyer ended the Longhorn season. He got right past

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Speaker 2: the Cameron Williams the right tackle, went towards the Texas

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Speaker 2: quarterback and form a roommate, Quinn Viewers. They were freshmen

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Speaker 2: together at the Ohio State. He crashed into you his back.

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Speaker 2: The ball popped loose and bounced around Sawyer scooped it up.

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Speaker 2: He raced something like eighty three yards for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: And believe me, they're still talking about it in Columbus,

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Speaker 2: Ohio as the Buck guys win and they're going to

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Speaker 2: play Notre Dame in the championship game next Monday. They

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Speaker 2: win twenty eight to fourteen over Texas. What a game.

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Speaker 2: Tremendous game, Yeah, tremendous game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because the way that the game

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Speaker 3: started saw Ohio State kind of jump out and do

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Speaker 3: what they've done throughout the postseason, which is explosive plays

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Speaker 3: on offense, just big plays, explosive plays. They've been able

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Speaker 3: to kind of create those in a few different ways.

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Speaker 3: And Texas did a really good job of taking Jeremiah Smith.

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Speaker 3: He was a non factor for the game. They played zone,

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Speaker 3: they wanted to keep the ball in front, but the

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Speaker 3: running game kind of propelled Ohio State at various times.

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Speaker 3: And then defensively, Ohio State went away from some of

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Speaker 3: the things that they've done in terms of like playing

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Speaker 3: man demand of whatever, really played zone, dared quinn Ewers

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Speaker 3: to make tight window throws, tested his patients and his

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Speaker 3: discipline in those things, and they rewarded with some turnovers.

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Speaker 3: It was just a really good game. And I would

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Speaker 3: say this, it wasn't the dominant version of Ohio State

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Speaker 3: that we saw the first two rounds where we talked

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Speaker 3: about this was the team that we expected to see.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they're here in

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Speaker 3: the National Championship game going against Notre Dame. If you're

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Speaker 3: a part of Bucket Nation, I don't know how you

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Speaker 3: can be disappointed in that right.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about Sawyer, who kind of had the

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Speaker 2: eighty three touchdown guy. He intercepted Michigan quarterback Davis Warren

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter in that Michigan game when the

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Speaker 2: score was tied, But the Buckeyes didn't come back to

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Speaker 2: score in that one. They lost to Michigan. So they

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Speaker 2: got a heck of a team. I mean It's going

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Speaker 2: to be a great final game. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes you get disappointed when you kind of get

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Speaker 2: all hyped up for these games and it could be

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Speaker 2: a blowout. But I don't think it will be. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to go back now. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Penn State game. Penn State reached

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Speaker 2: the college football players for the first time. They lose

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Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty fourth to Notre Dame. Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: knocked them out on Thursday night. Penn State rushed for

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Speaker 2: two hundred four yards in the first half, only sixty

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Speaker 2: three in the second half. James Franklin, here's the story

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Speaker 2: on this one right now. And LaVar Arrington, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: I know you're a Penn State lover. You played for them,

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Speaker 2: you were an All American there, But damn, James Franklin

534
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Speaker 2: four and twenty against teams in the top ten. It's

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Speaker 2: unbelievable for Penn State. They finished the season eleven to one.

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Speaker 2: That one loss was to Ohio State. James Franklin four

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Speaker 2: and seventeen against Ohio State and Michigan. How does that happen?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're better than that. This is a team

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Speaker 2: that when the season starts every year, there's such high

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Speaker 2: hopes for the Nitly Lions and they just they fizzle out.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. He's four and twenty against teams

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Speaker 2: in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I love when people bring up that stat because

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Speaker 3: my contention would be, what is everybody else against the

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Speaker 3: top ten? Are there people with like significant winning records

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Speaker 3: against top ten opponents.

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Speaker 2: In the playoffs? Though?

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Speaker 3: Right? So to get his team into the playoffs, I

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Speaker 3: think he certainly deserves that part of it. And the

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Speaker 3: way the Big Ten used to be until this year,

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Speaker 3: he was on the tough side of the bracket where

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Speaker 3: he had to go through Ohio State and Michigan to

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Speaker 3: get into the championship game. This gave them a chance

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Speaker 3: to get there, even though they didn't reach it. But

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Speaker 3: to be in this point, I think you have to

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Speaker 3: give them credit. Everyone points to the Michigan Ohio State thing,

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Speaker 3: but I think Michigan and Ohio State the last four

558
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Speaker 3: years they've been two of the best teams in the country.

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Speaker 3: Did we believe that Penn State was deserving of being

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Speaker 3: in that class? Because I'm kind of confused when people

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Speaker 3: really go at Penn State and James Franklin because I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: did we expect him to be a perennial national championship

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Speaker 3: team when they haven't done that in the past forty years,

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Speaker 3: Like even with Joe pa at the end of his tenure,

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Speaker 3: Penn State has never been that kind of team. So

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Speaker 3: why do we have these expectations that Penn State is

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Speaker 3: supposed to be up there? Until James Franklin raised him

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Speaker 3: to that point. Bill O'Brien didn't raise them up to

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Speaker 3: that point. Coming out of the fall out of the scandal,

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Speaker 3: James Franklin had to pick them up and make them

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Speaker 3: a relevant title contender. Again. Yes, he has to get

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Speaker 3: over the top, but man, you're sitting here in the

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Speaker 3: semi finals an opportunity to go if not for a

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Speaker 3: bad interception, but Drew Aller, I mean, Penn State has

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Speaker 3: taking Notre Dame into overtime with an opportunity to go

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Speaker 3: to the Natty. I just know how you can be

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Speaker 3: disappointed with that.

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Speaker 2: If you're Penn State, I will say this, I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you brought the Joe Pass situation. Back in the day

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Speaker 2: when Joe Paul was there, Penn State was an independent.

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Speaker 2: I think there's an advantage to being an independent, and

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Speaker 2: maybe not Ja Dame certainly has that bit of an advantage. Perhaps,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't figure that out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's great for me to speculate that, but I think

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Speaker 2: playing in a conference, like a killer conference like they're

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Speaker 2: in right now, a killer conference like the SEC. Where's

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Speaker 2: the SEC in the Final four? Where's the SEC in

588
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Speaker 2: the championship game? Texas was the loan SEC team and

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Speaker 2: they're new to the SEC. They're not a long time

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Speaker 2: SEC members. So I think being an independent may be

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Speaker 2: an advantage.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean James Strengthen alluded to that at

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Speaker 3: the presser leading up into the game, where we talked

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Speaker 3: about Notre Dame's independent status and not being in a

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Speaker 3: conference and how they may have some benefits by not

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Speaker 3: having to go through the gauntlet that some teams have

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00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: to go through, whether it's the SEC or the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame doesn't have to do that. Granted, they have

599
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Speaker 3: a very competitive schedule. They had some teams that were

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Speaker 3: expected to be power house on their schedule and it

601
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Speaker 3: didn't materialize. USC wasn't the team that some of us expected.

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Speaker 3: They played Army and Navy two teams that were double

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Speaker 3: digit win teams, and they dispatched both of them. And

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Speaker 3: even with the loss in Northern Illinois, they bounced back

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Speaker 3: and they've won a million games in a row, which

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Speaker 3: is a testament to them. Yeah, the independent status helps

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame. I can't say that they are in the

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Speaker 3: finals because of their independent status, but yeah, Penn State

609
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Speaker 3: benefited from a long time by being outside of the

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Speaker 3: conference world. But now they're in it, and so with

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Speaker 3: that comes a different level of scheduling and there's no

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Speaker 3: doubt a tough run.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm not taking anything away from Joe Pitho. It

614
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Speaker 2: was a great coach. I love them, I really did.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when they were independent, they were playing

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Speaker 2: Boston College. It was weak. They were playing Temple. They

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Speaker 2: were playing a lot of garbage. They really were, and

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Speaker 2: that's how they rolled up the wins they were. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you look at the schedule. I mean Temple a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a run about seven eight years ago, but

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Speaker 2: that's basically it. But I got a questionable play. I

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Speaker 2: wrote this down for you. Okay, Penn State got the

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Speaker 2: ball back on the fifteen yard line about thirty eight

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Speaker 2: seconds left. The game was tied at twenty four, James

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Speaker 2: Franklin decided to go for the win instead of playing

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Speaker 2: for overtime. Okay, I get it, he's a gambler. Okay.

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Speaker 2: After a twenty three yard run by Nick Singleton, the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Jueller threw a pass across the middle. It was intercepted

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Speaker 2: by Notre Dames Christian Gray. The Iris drew up to

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Speaker 2: Penn State's twenty three and mitched Geta kicked the game

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Speaker 2: winning field goal. But but Penn State had two players

632
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Speaker 2: standing about twenty yards back from the line of scrimmage

633
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Speaker 2: protecting against a fake, a fake instead of going for

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Speaker 2: the block. And look, Gina's the guy that missed two

635
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Speaker 2: field goals and Notre Dames lost to Northern Illinois. He

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Speaker 2: made the field goal, that was the game. Why would

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Speaker 2: you think there's going to be a fake? I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Why do you have those guys They should all be

639
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Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage trying to block the field goal.

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Speaker 3: We depends on if the guy has struggled from distance

641
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Speaker 3: in the past, and if you believe that it was

642
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Speaker 3: at the fringes of his range, maybe you can't talk

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Speaker 3: yourself into thinking that a to fake alert. Let's just

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Speaker 3: make sure we don't get skunked here and give up

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Speaker 3: a fake field goal, touchdown or anything like that. That

646
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: has to be something that he must have been thinking about.

647
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, Notre Dame has been killing it

648
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: on special teams throughout the postseason. They've done all different

649
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: types of funny stuff or whatever, and so maybe in

650
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: taking that precaution, he's like, the odds of us getting

651
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: through blocking the kick are not great. Let's make sure

652
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: we protect against any funny stuff and make the kicker

653
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: make the kick. He made the kick, which is the difference.

654
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 3: He made the kick, and you know, you have to

655
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: live with the result. But I'm sure he was like,

656
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: I am not going to get goat on a fake

657
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: attempt because this team is put on tape throughout the

658
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: playoffs that they will take some risk in the kicking.

659
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Speaker 2: Are Yeah, And the kid Jita did miss two field

660
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: goals in the loss against Northern Illinois, but that's that's

661
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: like in a different century right now, that's months ago.

662
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: You know, things change, they really do. But I'm happy,

663
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: you know it's funny kid athletes redeem themselves think about that.

664
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure this kid was like his picture was like

665
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: in every storefront in South Bend, Indiana after that game. Really,

666
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: Mitch Jeter, now all of a sudden, he's a hero.

667
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? It really is. I mean, you to threats.

668
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: These kids get it. It's not even normal when you

669
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: think about it, but they do. That's what happens. Fans

670
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: are crazy.

671
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, without question, fans are absolutely bananas. You

672
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean this is this is a part

673
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: of the deal. They are bananas when it comes to

674
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Speaker 3: some of that stuff. But yeah, it was a great

675
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Speaker 3: redemption story. He made a big time kick and there's

676
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Speaker 3: notre dame team. You know, you just got to give

677
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: them credit, man for battling it out. They were getting

678
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 3: dominated early in the game by Penn State. Uh, they

679
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: found a way to reset everything at halftime, came back

680
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: and put themselves in a position to take over the game.

681
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: It is it is uncommon to see a team in

682
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: a playoff game do a complete role reversal and to

683
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: own it. They dominate in the second half, and they

684
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: deserve to win based on their dominance. But that interception

685
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: at the end was critical, and it comes at a

686
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: time when look, there's buzz trying to be created about

687
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Drew Aller as a NFL top prospected quarterback. Don't quite

688
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: see it me. I don't quite see it like that.

689
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: But there were people that were buzzing about him and

690
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: how he could be a guy that if he gets

691
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: hot in the postseason, he can get into the first

692
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Speaker 3: round and maybe challenge shaduor Sanaders and Kim Ward and

693
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: those guys. But the guy that I saw against Notre Dame, look,

694
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Speaker 3: I can't say that I saw a guy who had

695
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: NFL written all over him. They didn't complete a pass

696
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: to a wide out first time in twenty seasons. They

697
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: finished the game without a completion to a wide receiptsbelieve

698
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 3: that is unbelievable.

699
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they would have told you that befoot again,

700
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe them. Really, you wouldn't believed them. But

701
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: let me leave you with this the best stat I

702
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: had seen on social media.

703
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Speaker 3: Get this.

704
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman has more wins against top

705
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: five teams in the last eight days than James Franklin

706
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: has in his entire time at Penn State. I know

707
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: it's a shop, but still pretty creative when you think

708
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Speaker 2: about it.

709
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very creative.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a James Franklin. I never met the man,

711
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: but he looks like a gentleman, you know what I mean.

712
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: He looks like a real nice man, like the type

713
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: of guy you wouldn't mind playing for. I think it's

714
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: a hard working coach is a successful coach, and you know,

715
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: you get knocked around when you lose games. That's the

716
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: nature of the business. O.

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00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: No, no, no, let me be clear. Now he brings

718
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: some of it on about himself. Now he has an

719
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: arrogance or a cockiness to him, stubbornness that makes you

720
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: that makes you you hate him. But the common thread

721
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: between a lot of successful coaches is they have that

722
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: they have that what I call that competitive air against

723
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Speaker 3: that athletic ar against the stubbornness where there can they

724
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: have a conviction about what they're doing one and why

725
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: they do it and how they do it, and they

726
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: don't budge off of that. That's what makes them great

727
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: and they're willing to stand in and I'm sure he'll

728
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: stand in there with the criticism in those things. But

729
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: I will say the secret sauce to Penn State's success

730
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: has been the upgrade and talent that they are bringing

731
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Speaker 3: in in the James Franklin era. They have these dynamic

732
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: athletes that they have recruited that they're bringing in that

733
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: will star next month at the NFL Combine, and it

734
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Speaker 3: is giving them an opportunity to go toe to toe

735
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: with the heavyweights. They may not win, but they certainly

736
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: take those heavyweights to distance, and that is progressed for

737
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: a university that desperately wants to get win another national title.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firmer. We

739
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: are Fox Football Sunday at Foxbuts Radio. It's time now

740
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: for some real answers. It's Bucky. It's next listen.

741
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Speaker 3: No Fox Sports Radio.

742
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Speaker 2: All right, it is that time. It's Bucky right around

743
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Speaker 2: the corner. About ten minutes before the top of the hour.

744
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday, a Foxbut's right. Let's do it.

745
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: It's time for as Bucky. Here we go, all right, Bucky.

746
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 2: U CLA basketball coach Mick Cronin he called his team

747
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: that dreaded soft word. He did it publicly after they

748
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: lost to Michigan the other day. Have you ever heard

749
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: a coach call his or her team soft publicly?

750
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean we saw we saw Gerard Mayo call

751
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: this team soft, and he now is looking for a job.

752
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is what happens. Coaches called

753
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: their teams soft when they don't feel like they respond

754
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: with the requisite toughness mentally or physically to win at

755
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: a high level. That's why UCLA's Mick Cronan is at

756
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: his guys. He doesn't believe they're bringing the effort every day.

757
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they came back and they lost to Maryland.

758
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: And after they lost to Maryland, he was criticizing the officials.

759
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: He's got to calm Dino Mick. I know when he

760
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: coached University of Cincinnati. He's like a firecracker. He really

761
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: is going to calm down Lim He's gonna explode. He

762
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: will just take it easy MC. Really. Now, next, the

763
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: question really isn't who the NFL MVP should be or

764
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: is because it's going to be Lamar Jackson. Here's the

765
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: real question. Does Eli Manning belong in the Pro Football

766
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?

767
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: Man This is a tough one for him because I

768
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: don't believe he's a Hall of Famer. I know he's

769
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 3: a two time Super Bowl winner, but there is nothing

770
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: about Eli Manning that I ever felt like he was

771
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 3: a top five quarterback in the league over time. During

772
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: his time in the league, I never felt like he

773
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: was a top five quarterback. The Hall of Fame is

774
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: supposed to be for the greats, the guys that you fear,

775
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: the guys that are renowned. He has two rings, and

776
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: so you can't dispute that. But I mean to me,

777
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: he hasn't done enough to really be worthy of being

778
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame player.

779
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: I can't believe that he may get in. And Ken Anderson,

780
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: who played for the Bengals, can't and he was an MVP.

781
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: That I can't believe. And Ken Anderson's stats kill Eli

782
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: Manning stats. But I guess his name is Manny, and

783
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: he played in New York and he did beat the

784
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: New England Patriots and the Super Bowl. So that's the key, right.

785
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: I mean that is that that certainly helps.

786
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: It certainly helps.

787
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 3: But man Yeah, if you ask me just on the

788
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: strength of his performance over time, nah, I never would.

789
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: I never would say he's all the Famer.

790
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: There you go. Now, how can the Atlanta Falcons be

791
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: content with Kirk Cousins as that quarterback? And three next year?

792
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean, look, they can be content with him as

793
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: their backup quarterback. That's what they've talked about. They talked

794
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: about him being QB two, which you know, you don't

795
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: think that you can pay one hundred and sixty million

796
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: dollars for the second second stream quarterback. But if they're

797
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: willing to live with it, okay, that's fine. It's a

798
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: little weird, but it's certainly something that can be done.

799
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Speaker 2: All right. Here's a little bit of a complicated thing

800
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: that I have going on in my head. Why do

801
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: NFL people think that assistant coaches will make good head coaches.

802
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a good teacher in school does

803
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: not mean you're going to be a good principal, the

804
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: Peter principal. You know what I'm saying. Example, Ben Jonson

805
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: with the Lions. He's been touted right now as the

806
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: next great head coach. Baseball doesn't do this with coaches.

807
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: They don't make great coaches managers, all right, So why

808
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: are they doing it in the NFL. I don't get it.

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know, man. I think what

810
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: I've found is that no one really knows why they

811
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: do what they do in the NFL. When it comes

812
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: to head coaches, it's the hot name, and a lot

813
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: of it is influenced by what broadcasters say in the

814
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: course of games. Ben Johnson is a high candidate because

815
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: everyone loves the kind of plays that he has. But

816
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: if you're not bringing Detroit's culture in Detroit's weapons, you're

817
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: not guaranteed to get those same results. And so it's

818
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: a lot more to it than just calling plays. The

819
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: head coach has to be the guy that sets the

820
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: culture and all those things, and so you've got to

821
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: dig down see if his personality allows him to do that.

822
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a little of tail under that question, why

823
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: is Mike Vrabel like that the main guy? Now, he's

824
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: like the everybody wants.

825
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same thing. You know. It's funny

826
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: because we talk about how great he is and he's

827
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: really good coach, but when you look at his record,

828
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Speaker 3: it hasn't been that. But we'll see he's a prodigal

829
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Speaker 3: son having a chance to go back home.

830
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Speaker 2: All right, NFL's top coaches, we'll tell you who they

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, my friend, how are you? How's everything? You're

842
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Speaker 2: safe and sound, The family's good. The fires are burning.

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Speaker 2: We pray for these people. The devastation is terrible. We

844
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: try to like lighten it up for them for at

845
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Speaker 2: least an hour or so on a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is. The devastation is terrible. It's sad

847
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Speaker 3: to see so much of historic la in ruins. But

848
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Speaker 3: you hope that the city of Angels bounces back, and

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Speaker 3: you hope that all of the people who have been

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Speaker 3: find shelter, they able to kind of start the process

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Speaker 3: to watch. It's tough to have a bunch of friends

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Speaker 2: And thank you to the people of Colorado and Nevada

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859
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: that and seeing that on TV, So thank you to

860
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: those people, you know, trying to make that effort. I

861
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: know the NFL. I mean I watched the games yesterday

862
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: to make a donation of that NFL dot Com. I mean,

863
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: it's pretty big that people are getting involved all over

864
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: as they should.

865
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone being involved trying to bring back the city.

866
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 3: So it's good to see.

867
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: That's great. Okay, now let's talk about what you did.

868
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: Because you're a writer, you're a scout, you're a form

869
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: of player. NFL dot Com I love it on Friday

870
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: you have that. I don't go to the Fox one

871
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: as much as the NFL dot com one, which you

872
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: ranked the top five coaching staffs in the NFL this week.

873
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to know how you made

874
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: your decisions, because I got a couple of beasts with

875
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: you on this, because a couple of teams have been

876
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: left out, so I don't know how are these decisions

877
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: made by wins and losses, or by maybe developing players,

878
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: or by maybe building a staff. How do you do it?

879
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: I think the easiest way to do it is to

880
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: look at the head coach, offense, defensive, and special teams

881
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: coordinators and see which teams you believe give their teams

882
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: the biggest advantage on game day. And I try to

883
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: keep it as simple as that. We can talk about

884
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 3: everyone has good coaches in those things, but it's those

885
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: three coaches working in unison to make sure that the

886
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: game plan is followed through, carried out, and that the

887
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: game plan compliments every phase of the team to allow

888
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: the team to win. And when you throw the ego

889
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 3: aside and don't worry about the yards and that kind

890
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: of production, just focus on how the team is operated.

891
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Are they executing? Are they living up to what you've

892
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: kind of put out there for and there do you

893
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: feel great about it?

894
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: Okay? There's a couple of things when I watch NFL

895
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: games that drive me insane. Number One, one of these

896
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: announcers say the guy is running downhill. There's no hills

897
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: on the football field.

898
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

899
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: Number Two, they want to move to change now, just

900
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: say he's going to get a first down. So you know,

901
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: those terms made me nuts. But there's another one that

902
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: really draws me crazy. Is the term culture. All right,

903
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: help me out here, what exactly the means when they

904
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: say a guy comes to a team, a new coach

905
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: comes in, changes the culture. Okay, I will tell you

906
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: this much. I follow sports for a long time, and

907
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: then you played the game, and you know what it's

908
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: all about. I've seen various teams win, and I don't

909
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: think there was great culture in that locker room. But

910
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: everybody had a purpose to win and do their one thing.

911
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: But they hated one another. You know, Shaq and Kobe

912
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: didn't get along, but they won. Okay, the culture couldn't

913
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: have been that good. The Bronx Zoo with the New

914
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: York Yankees, culture probably was not good, but they won,

915
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: all right. Now, there were teams like the Pittsburgh Pirates. Okay,

916
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: we are family. Maybe the culture was good. So I

917
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: think that term culture is really overrated. These people use

918
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: that term, they have no idea what it's all about.

919
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of the people that use it never

920
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: played the game. I never played the game, but I

921
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: was somewhat close to the game, being a pr guy

922
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: with pro teams so I see the locker rooms, what's

923
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: going on.

924
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I see your point, and I understand it

925
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 3: has been a buzzword that's been overused. However, I believe

926
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: it's still the most important thing that is required to win.

927
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: Your culture, your locker room, your share, shared belief system

928
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: has to be intact and has to be adhere to

929
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: if you're going to win at the highest level. If

930
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: you just looked at Black Monday, Last Monday was Black

931
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: Monday all the coaches that were released, and so it

932
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: also served as exit interviews for all the players. Last

933
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 3: time the players would talk to the media and those things.

934
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: And there were multiple teams where this came out New

935
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: York Giants, Miami Dolphins, Chicago Bears, where they talked about disciplining,

936
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: in details and accountability. All of those things are part

937
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 3: of establishing your culture. Discipline. Can we show up on time?

938
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: Can we do exactly what we're supposed to do, how

939
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: we're supposed to do it, when we're supposed to do it.

940
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: That is part of the culture that's established, where there's

941
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: a level of expectation or there's a standard that you

942
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: have to meet. When I hear these teams and obviously

943
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: all of them are losing teams have the same common

944
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: denominators when it comes to lack of commitment and accountability

945
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: and trust in those things, it tells you that the

946
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: head coach is not created a culture, a championship caliber

947
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: culture that can sustain itself. And so, even though it's overblown,

948
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: it is the biggest part of the postle when it

949
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 3: comes to building a championship team.

950
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: And I'll counter that by saying, sure, they had the

951
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: excellent deviews with the members of the New York Football Giants,

952
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: and every one of those players were blaming the coaching staff.

953
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: They wouldn't take any credit or responsibility on themselves that

954
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: they stunk, they didn't play. But I kept Brian Dabo.

955
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: They didn't fire the coach in New York. So if

956
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 2: it was that bad and the culture was in fact,

957
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: as you say that, because the players are complaining, why

958
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: didn't they fire.

959
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: Him because ownership doesn't like to change. The New York

960
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: Giants are very similar to the Pittsburgh Stellers and the

961
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: Green Bay Package, some of these small market teams where

962
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: they just looked once they signed you, they trust you

963
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: to do your job. However many uses and then they'll

964
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: come back and revisit it. I think for the Giants,

965
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: Brian day Ball and his curried favorite because he was one.

966
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: He was once a Coach of the Year, and the

967
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: owner talked about with he's been coach of the year,

968
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: he has to be good. He does not going to

969
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: go for me and coach of the year to being

970
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: completely a bum, And so they wanted to give them

971
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: the benefit of doubt. But I will tell you this,

972
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: and I'm saying this, and I'm saying this with this disclaimer.

973
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: Joe Shane is a friend of mine. We worked together

974
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: in Carolina. But when you read some of the accounts

975
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: that was just in the ESPN dot com piece where

976
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: they talked about the Giants, and they talked about how

977
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: they just took these hard stances on some players and

978
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 3: underestimated the value of the players in the locker room,

979
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: asking a young player to take a pay cut a

980
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: week of a game after you've already made the team,

981
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: and how he was gonna get him, and I'm gonna

982
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: get you, and I'm gonna fire you and all this

983
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: other stuff. The team doesn't trust each other, that's why

984
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: they can't win. So that's also a part of the culture.

985
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so they keep the coach. I get it because

986
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, you know, the ownership is that way.

987
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: It's like in Pittsburgh they have what three coaches in

988
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: the last fifty years. I mean, they don't fire coaches.

989
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: And the same with the Cincinati Bengals, a family run

990
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: operation with the Mara family in New York with the Giants.

991
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: But the thing is they'll keep the coach, but they

992
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: get rid of si Quon Barkley. Think about that? Does

993
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: that make any sense? I mean, come on, do you

994
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: how do you miss that deal? I mean what he

995
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: did for them a year ago? How do you miss that?

996
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean yeah, I mean yeah, that's that's hard.

997
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how you miss it.

998
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: I don't know any buddy that is Shane Att. You know,

999
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: when you're out with him one day, give him a

1000
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: call or whatever, say, look, you know it's Sae Kwon Barkley.

1001
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean, did you did you know?

1002
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: Here's the thing and this is another thing and I

1003
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: just tweeted it. I posted I wrote a thing on

1004
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: Fox this week about the return of the running back.

1005
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: We went through a period where everyone said you don't

1006
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: need to invest in a running back. You don't have

1007
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 3: to do this. You can get him anywhere running backs

1008
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: or a diamond dozen. YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. That

1009
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: was the conversation. Don't use a first round pick on

1010
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: a running back is not worth it. Okay, let's look

1011
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: at Bejehn Robinson and Jamier Gibbs and the impact that

1012
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: they had on their respective teams. But really, let's dig

1013
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: into the postseason and talk about the value of the

1014
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: running back. Josh Jacob's playing well, Sakwan Barkley doing what

1015
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: he does for the Philadelphia Eagles, Jay Henry who we

1016
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 3: saw last night. All of those guys, and Joe Shane

1017
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: is not a believer in paying the running back. He

1018
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: didn't want to pay ze Kwan. Unfortunately for him, he

1019
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: goes down the street to arrival and rushes for two

1020
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: thousand yards. That's a lot of egg on.

1021
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: Your face and I mean close to next to you.

1022
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: If they don't make the playoffs.

1023
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: Oh, it's one hundred percent going to cost him. Luckily,

1024
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: he was able to get through it this year, but

1025
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: it will cost him next year. If the Giants aren't better,

1026
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: they will look back at that Saquan thing and the

1027
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: fact that it was on inside hard knocks where the

1028
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: cameras are there, and he was so smug and dismissive,

1029
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 3: right of Yeah, man, it's not a great look. It's

1030
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 3: not a great look.

1031
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: Not really a to Saquon's credit. You know, he didn't

1032
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: come back at him, you know what I mean. I

1033
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: mean he took the high road, which is nice. He

1034
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: could have said, I could have been doing this for you. No.

1035
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to create his own legacy in Philadelphia,

1036
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: and you know, he may win a Super Bowl ring

1037
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: with the Eagles, so we'll see.

1038
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah he might. But he certainly has become the big

1039
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: part of their office. Destratusters to drink, for sure, no.

1040
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. Okay, before we get into these top

1041
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: coaching staffs, what about clubs that don't permit a head

1042
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: coach to select their staff. In other words, you could

1043
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: get a head coach fired, they bring in a new

1044
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: head coach, but they keep the remaining assistance that's happened before.

1045
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: So well, how do you judge that. I mean, that happens,

1046
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: doesn't it.

1047
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there have been some instances where they've

1048
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: advised in a perfect world, man, when you hire a coach.

1049
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: You want the coach to coach. You're not trying to

1050
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: necessarily make the NFL like Major League Baseball, where the

1051
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: manager in some ways is a figurehead for the analytics

1052
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: crew that are kind of operating a puppet show where

1053
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: they're doing everything, but they give the line of card

1054
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 3: to the manager, so he has to be the face

1055
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: of it. No, the NFL is different. You got their

1056
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: real coaches. He has to be able to trust the

1057
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: people around them, and you cannot always just throw anybody

1058
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: in a room and say, hey, y'all gonna be the

1059
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: coaching staff, go get it done. There's a vetting out

1060
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: processing period that must happen. You have to ask him,

1061
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: do they see ball the same way that you see

1062
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 3: ball in terms of the vision of how championship teams

1063
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: operate in those things? And so there are a lot

1064
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: of things that come to it. I don't know if

1065
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: you can entrust ownership a fully higher staff unless they're

1066
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: deeply entrenched in the game and they know so many

1067
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: people that they can get legitimate answers on who's good

1068
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: and who's not.

1069
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there have been some NFL clubs that

1070
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: acts the head coach bringing a new head coach, but

1071
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: keep the remaining assistance.

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Speaker 3: I mean there have been some people that have had

1073
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: some holdovers in those things, like yeah, there're people that

1074
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: are that are tried, but typically it's hard. Let's see.

1075
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 3: I vividly remember Barry Switzer stepping in UH to replace

1076
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson in Dallas. They won a Super Bowl, but

1077
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: the culture changed with Barry compared to Jimmy Johnson because

1078
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: they're different people. They have different belief systems, different ways

1079
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: of operating.

1080
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, It really is funny. Okay, let's

1081
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: get into this right now. Speaking of Barry Switzer. It's

1082
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: funny you mentioned it, but I don't know why. About

1083
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: a month ago, I used to live in Oklahoma and

1084
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: he used to call me Yankee or something from New York,

1085
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: and I called him. I mean, he must be ninety

1086
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: something years old, and I had his number because a

1087
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: four or five area coach I knew it was him,

1088
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: called him up and like the first ring, and then

1089
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: he answered and he hung up on me because didn't

1090
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 2: know who it was, and then he said, hell, hell

1091
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: are you. It was unbelievable that he remembered Yeah, because

1092
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: I worked at all Roberts and there was a big deal.

1093
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: I used to go to the Oklahoma games. But he

1094
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: was a good guy. I like Berry Swizzer. He was

1095
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: a character, he really was. You don't get characters much anymore. Coaching, however,

1096
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: we move on. No surprise here, you're the best coaching stamps.

1097
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: You picked the Kansas City Chiefs and then he read

1098
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to argue against that. However, I

1099
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: will say this, I'm gonna punch a little hole in

1100
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: your dike here. Defensive coordinat Steve Spagnolo tremendous. He was

1101
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: even good with the Giants. He's been wherever he's been. However,

1102
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: he was a head coach one time, didn't do well,

1103
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: didn't farewell as a head coach. So again, the question

1104
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: is the Peter principal. If you're good in one slot

1105
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: may not mean you're going to be good at the

1106
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: next level doing something else. You know, again, if you're

1107
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: a good high school teacher, you may not be a

1108
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: good high school principal. You know, stay in your lane.

1109
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is very true and unfortunate for us.

1110
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: The outside world we see head coaches as kind of

1111
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: being a pilgrimage, right, you make your journey from position

1112
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: coach to coordinator, coordinator to head coach. That's the rite

1113
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: of passage. But that doesn't mean that you're necessarily prepared

1114
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: to be the head coach. The head coach is completely

1115
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: different than anything that a coordinator will do. Coordinator is

1116
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: drawn a place. He's managing his side of the team,

1117
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 3: but he's not standing in front of the entire team

1118
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: and putting it all together. The head coach not only

1119
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: has to put it all together in terms of all

1120
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: three phases working together to compliment one another. He has

1121
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: to make some tough roster decisions on who's up and

1122
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: who's down. He has to figure out whether he wants

1123
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: to practice inside or outside. He has to do a

1124
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: lot of different stuff before you even get to the ballpark.

1125
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 3: And without being able to delegate your time, without being

1126
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: able to have a strong supporting staff that you can

1127
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: believe in. Man, it's too much work. It's too much work,

1128
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: and it takes away from the main thing. Got to

1129
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 3: keep the main thing the main thing. And sometimes when

1130
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: you move up to the head coaching role, yeah, that

1131
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: goes by the wayside.

1132
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would think that you're an assistant coach

1133
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: or a coordinator. You're just so zeroed in on your

1134
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: area with the blinders on. When you're a head coach,

1135
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: you have to not only oversee everything, you got to

1136
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 2: spend so much time dealing with the media. You got

1137
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: those Monday news conferences, you got the midweek Wednesday news conferences.

1138
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: And that's what basically you are. You're the spokesperson for

1139
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: the team and really and truly trying to do game planning.

1140
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 2: It's tough, it really is. I mean, and I think

1141
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: a lot of these assistant coaches they just want to

1142
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: get involved with football and they just as soon not

1143
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: talk to media people. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just

1144
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: the way it is. And again I feel bit about

1145
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: my buddy Louis Narumo. He was the scapegoat for the

1146
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, two years ago he was getting

1147
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: interviewed for head coaching jobs all over the league. Now

1148
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: he's looking for a job. Just just the way it

1149
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: is the National Football League, you know.

1150
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 3: Just the way it is. Man. That's why you better

1151
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: get a job when you're hot. That's why Ben Johnson

1152
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: and Aaron Glenn and all those guys. When we on

1153
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: the house, I say, oh, I should wait for a

1154
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: better job. No no, no, no, no. You better get

1155
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: the best job that you would now get during the

1156
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: cycle because it's no guaranteed that you can maintain it.

1157
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: And the hardest thing to do in this league is

1158
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: to be consistent when it comes to your performance and

1159
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: your production. We're seeing that. That's why there are always

1160
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 3: five to six new teams in the playoffs every year.

1161
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: It's hard to do, but that is kind of the standard.

1162
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 3: And if you don't have that long track record of success,

1163
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: people can go back and say, what's the difference in

1164
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: doing some of them here elsewhere? Like that's that's the

1165
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 3: dilemit that you're always in.

1166
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: Exactly right. I don't want to go through every single one,

1167
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: but I'm going to just go to number two because

1168
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: this guy, Kevin O'Connell, the coach of Minnesota vikis he

1169
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: may very well be the coach of the year because

1170
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody expected anything to begun in Minnesota

1171
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: this year. Sam Donald right now quarterbacking. Look, I mean,

1172
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: here's a guy got to be the comeback player of

1173
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: the year. I got to believe that, right.

1174
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: I Mean, I don't know what he's coming back from

1175
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: in terms of injury. But yeah, okay, if you want

1176
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: to take it away.

1177
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: Did this is it injury when you say come back?

1178
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean, but flack On wanted but he didn't have injury,

1179
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: came off the couch and he got cole play.

1180
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it just should be for injury

1181
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: in those things. But I mean, I don't mind Sam Donald.

1182
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 3: He's an honor to be recognized for, you know, having

1183
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 3: a phenomenal year. So if he gets come back Play

1184
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: of the Year, I won't blink. I think Joe Burrow

1185
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 3: may have an issue with it, but it's fine. Joe

1186
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: can be Okay, He's gonna win plenty of awards. Kevin

1187
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: O'Connell is great because Kevin O'Connell gets the big picture right.

1188
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that can understand the macro

1189
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: while also understanding the micro. He understands the big picture,

1190
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: but can do the things on a daily basis to

1191
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: make sure that the small things are always taken care of.

1192
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: He combined with Brian floor is Man, they're terrific strategists,

1193
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: tacticians UH excellent with the X and os and they

1194
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: find a way to not only UH out Pelcier with

1195
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: their opponents with the x's and o's. They pelcled with

1196
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: them while putting their best players in positions to make plays.

1197
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 3: That's evident. That's why they're there. That's right there. Number

1198
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 3: two in the ranks.

1199
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: Okay, number three, no surprise. If Dan Campbell what he's done.

1200
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: You talk about culture, He did basically change the so

1201
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: called culture of the Lions. I mean they were like

1202
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: the doormatch of the league for years. Number four. You

1203
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: got a clown over there, Nick Siriana, you got a

1204
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: number four. I mean, come on, I mean Cloud.

1205
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: I think he's a cloud show.

1206
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, Cloud, come on, I mean, come on, really, Okay.

1207
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 3: The clown has only won seventy more than seventy percent

1208
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: of his game since being the head coach of the

1209
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. It might be the active leader when it

1210
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: comes to uh win percentage in those things. They go

1211
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: to the playoffs, they dominated in the playoff they dominated

1212
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: under his watch, and he has Big Fangio with him

1213
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: and Kellen Moore. You may not like Kellen Moore because

1214
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore was probably calling plays of your favorite team,

1215
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. Some people that are listening will say that,

1216
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: But then you look at the change that he's made

1217
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: from how he called the game in Dallas to the

1218
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 3: way he called a game in LA to what he's

1219
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: doing in Philly. He's maximizing the playmaking ability of the

1220
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: quarterback while elevating the supporting cast into opportunity, prime opportunity

1221
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: positions to make plays. And they were big fang you

1222
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: one defense, jay Leen Carter playing like a beast. They

1223
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 3: got a bunch of young guys in the secondary that

1224
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: are killing it. You can say a lot about the field,

1225
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 3: their vehicles, but they certainly deserve to be in this list.

1226
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 2: All right, And you got Green Bay bringing up the

1227
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 2: rear top five. Okay, I'll leave you with that, but look,

1228
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, and we'll continue with this

1229
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: for a few more minutes in the next segment. What

1230
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: about the forty nine Ers coaching staff, the Chargers commanders,

1231
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I mean, how do you leave them out?

1232
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 2: We'll get to that and so much more. He's Bucket Brooks,

1233
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: get him on X at Bucket Brooks had Andy from

1234
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: an FSR. Mike Harmon joins us in the next hour.

1235
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: That'll be at Swollen Dome. If you want to join us,

1236
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: if you're upset that Bucky left your team out and

1237
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: your coaching staff eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox

1238
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.

1239
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: We got bottom barrel betting on this album right now.

1240
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: This is the.

1241
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: NFL's true underdog. We'll tell you who next. They're not

1242
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: the same team. Now, that's coming right up. This is

1243
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks.

1244
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman, and by the way, we're live from

1245
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: the tire rat dot Com studios and shortly after the show,

1246
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any

1247
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,320
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1248
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,040
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1249
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,680
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1250
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1252
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see this show

1253
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday as soon as we get off the air. Now,

1254
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: a couple of questions before we roll into some of

1255
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: the games that are being played today. We talk about

1256
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: the best coaching staffs in the National Football League and

1257
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks had him on NFL dot Com Kandasy the Minnesota, Detroit, Philadelphia,

1258
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: and Green Bay top five. Now I want to know

1259
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: why the Ravens aren't up there, Bucket Brooks.

1260
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: Because at the time Zach Or early in year, the

1261
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator was not up to snuff. Their defense wasn't

1262
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 3: playing at a high level. I like Todd munkt but

1263
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: I can't say that Toddmunkin is one of the best

1264
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators and ball and despite everything that we love

1265
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: about John Harbaugh, there are some questions about game management.

1266
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 3: So that's why couldn't creck the top five? All right?

1267
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: What about the forty nine is called Shanahan. He's got

1268
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: a track record, doesn't He had a ton of injuries

1269
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: this year with the forty nine.

1270
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,479
Speaker 3: I mean they have a tounch of injuries every year.

1271
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: He has four losing seasons in eight years. Andy, I mean,

1272
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 3: like we feel good about that.

1273
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: He needs to go to do training staff. That's what

1274
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: he needs to do.

1275
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 3: Really, that's what he does what he needs to do.

1276
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I'm I worry about that part of

1277
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: the situation when it comes to it, like they're just

1278
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: not they're not getting it done in that regard. So

1279
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: that that's why I got two.

1280
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: More possibilities for you. What about the charges with Jim

1281
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: Harbaugh could be on the verge, on the.

1282
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: Close close, no cigar, I can't can't give it.

1283
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: To last, not least Washington commanders a bit of a surprise, maybe.

1284
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: A bit of surprise. But I would say most people

1285
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: don't even know who the decoordinators. And I liked your

1286
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: with I mean, I'm I'm just saying like, so, I

1287
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: just need more time. I feel like Washington is more

1288
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: of a one man show. So those teams are in consideration.

1289
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: I guess if we were doing the March Madness bracket,

1290
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: there'll be first four out, Okay, okay for first four

1291
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: out right on the thing?

1292
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: You know, all right, I got you all right. Now,

1293
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: let's let's get into some of the games being played today.

1294
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: One o'clock today in Orchard Park, New York, the ten

1295
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: and seven Denver Broncos at the Buffalo Bills. And this

1296
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: is not going to be a walk in the park

1297
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: of the Bills. And I'll tell you right now, I

1298
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 2: don't feel or see the pressure on the Bills as

1299
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: perhaps there should be. You know, I think it's now

1300
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: we're never for the Buffalo Bills. This team is being

1301
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 2: built to win the Super Bowl this year, and anytime

1302
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: you bring up the Bills, all people think about is

1303
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: the four consecutive Super Bowls that they lost. Now you

1304
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: got bow Knicks, who's playing great, and I know they

1305
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 2: just beat the Chiefs thirty eight zip. But the Chiefs

1306
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: really weren't playing anybody. But still in all, I mean,

1307
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: come on, I think bow Knicks was completely Like his

1308
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: first eighteen passes, he was like twenty nine, what's twenty

1309
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: six for twenty nine? Pittsford over three hundred yards, had

1310
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: four touchdowns in that game. I think that's that's I

1311
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: think that the Buffalo Bills are going to be in

1312
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: for a shaka today. I think they'll win because the

1313
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: game is in Buffalo, but I think there's gonna be

1314
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: a lot tighter than people think.

1315
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: So you're saying you're going with the Buffalo Bills. Is

1316
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: that what you're saying?

1317
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm rooting for Denver. I'm rooting for my man

1318
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: Sean Payne because he's a Skyline Chili guy.

1319
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're heading your bit, that's what you want.

1320
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 3: You want to get credit for saying, Hey, I think

1321
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: it's tight. Yeah, but the Buffalo Bills are going to win.

1322
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 3: Oh okay, you want the different fans that like you

1323
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: were saying, we got a chance. Now, this is the

1324
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills game to win. And the Buffalo Bills and

1325
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: the issue that you have with the Denver Broncos. Denver

1326
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: Broncos led the league in sacks. How are they gonna

1327
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: deal with the How they canna deal with Josh Allen?

1328
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: Can they get enough pressure on Josh Allen to disrupt

1329
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: the rhythm of the Buffalo Bills offense? The Bills only

1330
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: had they only allowed fourteen sacks this year. As great

1331
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: as Denver's offense might play with bow Knicks coming off

1332
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: of that wonderful win against Ken City Chiefs backups their

1333
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: JV team, I just think it's different playing in Buffalo,

1334
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 3: playing up there, They're gonna be a rabbid Rockets crowd.

1335
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: I think the Buffalo Bills are going to overwhelm the

1336
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 3: Broncos early. It's gonna be too much for them to

1337
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: overcome later.

1338
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I think it's gonna be tough

1339
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: for Buffalo to move the ball against Denver. Do you

1340
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: think I'm crazy for saying that? I think it will

1341
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: be tough. I think if that's just tough, I really do.

1342
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think you're crazy for saying that.

1343
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: That's a reasonable explanation for why it may be some

1344
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 3: tough sledding. I'm okay with that, all right.

1345
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: I hope they win. It would be it would be

1346
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. I know Lamar Jackson wants them want

1347
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: to stand for the win, you know.

1348
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: And Jackson, what would mar Jackson want them to win?

1349
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: Because I think he thinks that Josh Allen's his rival,

1350
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: and this way the pressures off Lamar Jackson because everybody

1351
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: says Lamar can win the big games, which is bull

1352
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: I can't stand when I read that stuff, because why

1353
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: blame the court? I mean, the quarterback takes all the blame.

1354
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: It's not all falled. It really isn't.

1355
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, he's the picture in baseball. He

1356
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: gets credit for the win or the loss. I don't

1357
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: I know people want to they want to separate quarterbacks

1358
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 3: from the result of the game because then they can say, like,

1359
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 3: it's not as far, you can't judge that, or whatever.

1360
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: The quarterback is the more most important piece of the puzzle.

1361
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 3: The better your quarterback is the more like these.

1362
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: No doubt. And the teams that are not in the

1363
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: playoffs don't have a quarter.

1364
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: Don't have the right quarters. So we're going to judge

1365
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: the quarterback harshly because the quarterback makes significantly more money

1366
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: than everybody else. That's what the team, the league has

1367
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: told us, that the quarterback is dead value valuable. We

1368
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 3: will pay him double what the next marquee player will make.

1369
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: That's how important he is. Well, now you're gonna get

1370
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 3: you gonna get a sign blame when the team wins

1371
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 3: or loses because you occupy so much of the cap

1372
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: and so much of the attention. Yes, you get it.

1373
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 2: I understand that. We'll see what happens. All right, let's

1374
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: move on. Now, let's go to Philadelphia where the eleven

1375
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: and six Packers, the Green Bay Packers, which really could

1376
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: be a sleeper here in the playoffs, playing the Philadelphia

1377
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: Eagles fourteen and three. Let's look at the records right now.

1378
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: The Eagles have won twelve over their last thirteen games.

1379
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: The Packers, however, have gone two and three in their

1380
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: last five. And if you with the graph, Jordan Love,

1381
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: I'd say it's graph is trending downward towards the end

1382
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: of the season. Why, I don't know, but I think

1383
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: it is. And the Packers go is Jordan Love go.

1384
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: So that's the key right there. So again I think

1385
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: there's an advantage another advantage. I think uh Sequon Barkley

1386
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: is rested and rested well, he didn't play last week.

1387
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 2: You know, he's a big part of the offense and

1388
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: downer though for Philadelphia, the quarterback Jalen Hurts is coming

1389
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: off a concussion, so obviously that got to give the

1390
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: ball to Saquon to take the pressure of Jalen right now.

1391
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. I think Philadelphia will win again.

1392
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm running for Green Bay, but again I want to

1393
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: see Saquon get a ring because he could stick it

1394
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 2: to the Giants like that. So I don't know, but

1395
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: I think if you would to ask me, I said,

1396
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: the Eagles win, they'll probably win by a score.

1397
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: Bittheading, man, what are we doing?

1398
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: You know?

1399
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so if you're all in on the Eagles, they

1400
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: just say you're all in on the Eagles? Like project,

1401
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, can you channel you're inner? Nick? Siri? Yanni?

1402
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: How would Nick Siriyani say it. The Eagles are gonna win,

1403
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: ended he would not have said, yes.

1404
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: You know what if the you know, he's gonna but

1405
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: if the Eagles lost, He's gonna throw the bird to

1406
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: the That's the kind of guy he is, you know,

1407
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: that's the.

1408
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: Way he is. Because they impacted his play, his play

1409
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 3: callings or the decision making. Yeah, I can understand that. Like,

1410
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: but Philly loves that. They should love a little confrontation.

1411
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 3: That's what the city is built upon, is built on,

1412
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 3: you know, the city of brotherly love where you have

1413
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: arguments and those things, but get together later. So I'm

1414
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: okay with that.

1415
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: Rabbit fans, Rabbit fans that they're crazy. I mean that

1416
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: this could be a great game. That'll be a great game.

1417
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: It's on Fox this say afternoon for thirty Eastern time. Now,

1418
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: let's go to Tampa Bay. The Commanders of Washington twelve

1419
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: and five are playing at the Tampa Bay Bucks. They

1420
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: are ten and seven. Let's look at this right now.

1421
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: The command is by the way, we're blown out by

1422
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay thirty seven twenty way back in week one

1423
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: in September. However, the Commanders aren't the same team now

1424
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels has some lex swarnas right now, but obviously

1425
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: there are different teams, so I don't think you could

1426
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: judge anything on that right now. Let's look at right

1427
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 2: now now as far as what's going on with the Commanders,

1428
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: and in this situation, the Commanders have lost what six

1429
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: of last seven? Well, the Bucks have won six of seven.

1430
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: Your Commanders have well lost six of their last seven.

1431
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: I think it has yet nothing.

1432
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think this. I think this matchup is

1433
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: interesting because you talk about Tampa Bay being six and

1434
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: won their last seven games. We can talk about the

1435
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 3: emergence of their rushing attack with Bucket irving Mi sear White,

1436
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: Mike Evans been a one man show on the perimeter,

1437
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: backing Mayfield thrown for forty five hundred passing yards. All

1438
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: of that is great. I am banking my entire hopes

1439
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: on the Washington Commanders. Sensational rookie quarterback Jayden Daniels to me,

1440
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 3: and I'll say this, Jayden Daniels is not only a

1441
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 3: guy that's offensive Rookie of the Year, but Jayden Daniels

1442
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: should give votes as the MVP. The Commanders were nothing

1443
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 3: before Jayden Daniels came and fries everybody. As a number

1444
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 3: two overall pick, he put the team on his back.

1445
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: He's thrown for three thousand yards. He's rushed for eight

1446
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety one yards, most by rookie quarterback, most

1447
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 3: on his team. He leads his team in rushing. So

1448
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say he's gonna put together one of

1449
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: those magical performances that makes us talk about him against

1450
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1451
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me get this straight right now. The

1452
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 2: Bucks have won six of their last seven. The Commanders

1453
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: have won the last five. And here's the situation. Here,

1454
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: here's a stat that I think will be quite interesting.

1455
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: And losses to the Eagles, the Steelers, and the Ravens. Okay,

1456
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: for the Commanders, Jaden Daniels was held to twenty two

1457
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: or fewer rushing yards against the Eagles, Steelers, and Ravens.

1458
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 2: And games where Jaden Daniels gets to at least fifty

1459
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 2: rushing yards, the Commanders are six and two. Can he

1460
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 2: get the fifty rushing yards today against Tampa Bay.

1461
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 3: To resent because they're gonna run him. Those games that

1462
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 3: you mentioned, those are the games where he was beat up.

1463
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: Remember he was nursing some ribs. Like halfway to three

1464
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: quarters away of the season, he had rib injuries. So

1465
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 3: he's playing, but he wasn't really utilizing them. Now all

1466
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: best are off. Man, we're going for broke, We're doing

1467
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 3: all kinds of fun stuff. Cliff Kingsbury has really got

1468
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 3: in his bag with the running game. You unleasham and

1469
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: the thing that we also know about Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Man,

1470
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna let the snot out of Jayden Daniels. And

1471
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: when it comes to scramble runs, no one produces more

1472
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 3: yardage on scramble plays than Jayden Daniels. This is in

1473
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 3: his wheelhouse. If they're not locked in in terms of

1474
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: being coordinated up front, he gets passed that initial wave

1475
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 3: of defenders. He is going to be a headache for

1476
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm banking on chaos today. I

1477
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: think the home crowd gets them. I mean the home

1478
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: crowd to get Tampa Bay juiced up and saw stuff.

1479
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: But I think he relishes going into that environment and

1480
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: getting the dub Give me the commanders, I'm all over

1481
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: the chemists.

1482
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I think, and I've seen in every

1483
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: publication I've looked at they have the boat winning by six,

1484
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: they have the bucks thirty twenty four. I don't think

1485
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. I think jayde Daniels winter, although

1486
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: I worry about the leg soreness and may affect his

1487
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: ability to run the football. I don't know. I haven't

1488
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: heard much about that. They didn't list him as questionable

1489
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: or anything like that. He's going to play, there's no

1490
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 2: doubt about that. But you know, if he gets a

1491
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: couple of hits early on and may really affect him,

1492
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: I hope they don't knock him out. I really don't

1493
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: look thinking about that. You know, I'm going to run

1494
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: this by you. I still believe, and you know you

1495
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 2: don't hear much about it. I still believe. These NFL

1496
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: teams have bounties. They have bounties. Right, you played the game.

1497
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. They throw money in

1498
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: the pot and if you can knock out about you

1499
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: win the money. Right.

1500
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what you I don't know what you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1501
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: you agree talking about like a bounty like no we play.

1502
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 3: We played for the love of the game. Sports Machine

1503
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: help people up when we knock him down. I have

1504
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: no I have no idea what you're talking about when

1505
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: you talk about bounties and bounty gates.

1506
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: Put your hand on your heart when you say that,

1507
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: see which hand just like.

1508
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 5: This?

1509
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: I have heard, you know, And I hate to mention

1510
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: the player's name because he's a buddy of mine, but

1511
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: he's playing on listening anyway. He played for the Cincinnati Bengals.

1512
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 2: How he told me in the locker room before the game,

1513
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: there's there's a bounty. Maybe it stopped. I can't believe

1514
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: it stopped. And have a barrel that throw money in

1515
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 2: the barrel and it woven knocks the quarterback out. They

1516
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 2: get the money. But maybe maybe now with the salary

1517
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: is so much higher, you know, he played maybe in

1518
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: the nineties, you know, so maybe it's a different animal now,

1519
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: So maybe they don't need the bounty. But I think

1520
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: it's a great incentive for players to play hard to

1521
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: win that bounty. That's what I've heard.

1522
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I know when I was

1523
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 3: in Buffalo, they were coming on the heels and winning

1524
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: four straight Super Bowls. Didn't necessarily have bounties, but they

1525
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: had different things, like you know, who had the big

1526
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: hit don't kickoff. You know, may give out a toaster oven,

1527
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 3: you know, may give out some gift cards or special

1528
01:12:59,240 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: treats to people.

1529
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so there are to play hard back.

1530
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 3: In the day. This is this was way back in

1531
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: the day in the nineties, and so you're talking about bounties.

1532
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: I prefer not to reference some of those things that

1533
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: you're uh using the audience like.

1534
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: I should though it was just about the like like

1535
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: incentives instead and said, but about it. It is a bounty,

1536
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: but I'll use the term an incentive.

1537
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 3: Treats, right, like some treats. There's some treats that sometimes

1538
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 3: the treats would come from the team. Sometimes there would

1539
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 3: be uh fundraised by the players to make sure that

1540
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: people were treated to nice dinners and those things if

1541
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 3: they had some impactful place.

1542
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 2: There you go. You know, I've always gotten myself in

1543
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: trouble for saying things behind the curtain, and more than that,

1544
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: using the names. I mean, to this day, Anthony Munnos

1545
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: is not really my friend. He doesn't, you know, not

1546
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: when he sees me, because I mentioned at one point

1547
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: in time, I was told that he used to put

1548
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: stickum on his jersey. So when defensive guys would come

1549
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: against him, you know, they'd get stuck to his jersey.

1550
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 2: And I said that on the radio one time, and

1551
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: he went nuts on me, you know, and he's still

1552
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: to this day. Remember, I mean, let it go, I

1553
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: mean really right, I mean, you're in the Hall of fame.

1554
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: Let it go. But that's what always got me in trouble,

1555
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: because when I hear these things, anything goes. To me,

1556
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: anything goes, maybe unless you tell me, please don't use it.

1557
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: But to me, if I hear it, I'm gonna use it.

1558
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: And the legitimate source told me that, so I used it.

1559
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: And look, he wouldn't have been mad at me if

1560
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: he didn't think it was true. Right, So it was true.

1561
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,440
Speaker 2: He did put the stick them on his jersey.

1562
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes some of those things, you know, if

1563
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 3: you out Davis just saved, you ain't cheating. You ain't trying, right, right.

1564
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: If you don't get caught, you're not cheating either, right.

1565
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 2: So it's all about He's Bucky Brooks. I'm any firming.

1566
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday on Foxstray. The real playoff

1567
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: competition is bottom barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom barrel

1568
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 2: betting right around the corner of it minutes now before

1569
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm

1570
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: Andy Furman, and we are Fox Football Sunday and we're

1571
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: live at the tyraq dot com studio. But we got

1572
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 2: a gate to play, so let's play it.

1573
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1574
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: And there's only one man on God's Green Earth that

1575
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: could run this game and run it smoothly. And his

1576
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: name is Shay. Shay sheha. How you doing wake up?

1577
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: Come on, good morning, guys.

1578
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 5: How are we doing another day, another Sunday, another football Sunday?

1579
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: Yes, and what does that mean? It means we.

1580
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 5: Get to play our favorite game, bottom barrel betting game

1581
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 5: where I show Bucky and Andy different games throughout the

1582
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 5: world and they tell me who they think will win.

1583
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 5: These are pretty wacky games, so let's get right into it.

1584
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 5: Last week we did something a little bit different. We

1585
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 5: did a special Do you remember that?

1586
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 3: Do you remember that? We did a.

1587
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 5: Special Golden Globes edition of it, which, honestly, you guys

1588
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 5: didn't do too good. You guys both got two correct

1589
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 5: So that's a tie from last week from both of

1590
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 5: you guys, leading the totals to Andy forty and Bucky

1591
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 5: forty four. Tie is pretty boring, guys, let's not how

1592
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 5: that happened again. Yeah, we'll stick to sports. Then we'll

1593
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 5: suck to sports this week. So let's just get straight

1594
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 5: into it. So today and the FINA Men's World Cup.

1595
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: You know what that is, guys.

1596
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 5: It's a water polo tournament. Japan is taking on Croatia

1597
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 5: at six am Pacific Standard time. Japan is plus three

1598
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 5: twenty five all Croatia is minus two seventy five.

1599
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: Andy, let's go to you.

1600
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Croatia. I'll tell you why. I

1601
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 2: think there's more lakes and rivers in Croatia than in Japan,

1602
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: so the more adapt to swimming in the water. So

1603
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 2: I'll go with Croatia.

1604
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: All right, We'll go with Japan. That's easy.

1605
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: Wait, did you say you think there's more water in Croatia?

1606
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I do.

1607
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 1: You know Japan's and island, right, I.

1608
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: Understand, But I'm talking about the inland with swoot the ocean.

1609
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: Facts, facts over their shade. Don't don't mess with the facts, like.

1610
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 5: Don't I just I just this guy's over here giving

1611
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 5: out false info.

1612
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: I just inland. You could you could live on an island,

1613
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: but there's mold Man Island.

1614
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 3: All right, fact checkers allowed.

1615
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, you're right. I'm the host, you

1616
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: know I need to keep it professional.

1617
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 5: Okay, right, you're right. My bad, My bad, my bad.

1618
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 5: I should go back to sleep. In the Albanian Basketball

1619
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 5: super League, Tirana Neptune is taking on Kamza Basket today

1620
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 5: at nine am Pacific Standard time. Tirana Neptune is plus

1621
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 5: one forty while Comza Basket is minus two ten.

1622
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: Bucky Tiranto Toronto was was it basket? Is Toronto Baskets.

1623
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: Toronto Neptune and Kamza Basket.

1624
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so I took both, Okay, so let's go with Neptune.

1625
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: Okay, dude too, I've got to go.

1626
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 2: With the basket of his basketball, right, it's gotta got

1627
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: the baskets. I go with the team with the basket.

1628
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 5: There comes the basket that made That made more sense

1629
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 5: than your last one. Andy, that made a lot more sense,

1630
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 5: way more logic than one.

1631
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: We'll see next week. What makes sense, we'll see. You

1632
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: Just just do your jobs if you want to, If

1633
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: you want to look.

1634
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 5: It up, it starts in an hour a Men's World

1635
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 5: Cup water polo.

1636
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: You took Croatia. Look it up, okay, two hours?

1637
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 2: Well you know what I want you to look up

1638
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: right now. Just put put a hold on this. We'll continue.

1639
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it.

1640
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a way to watch him.

1641
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna watch Google.

1642
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 1: We'll Japan.

1643
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: Find out how many water ainlets are in Japan as

1644
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: opposed to Croatia. It's an island. What do you mean

1645
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: the inland lakes and rivers inside you? You can swim

1646
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 2: in the ocean, I would say something in the socks

1647
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: in the ocean. They're not gonna train for water polo

1648
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: in the ocean.

1649
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: I promise you there.

1650
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 5: Okay, even inland water or anything. There's probably more in

1651
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 5: Japan then there is Croatia.

1652
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

1653
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: This is a bet.

1654
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 3: We're doing it.

1655
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: Hey, how about this?

1656
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: If I win this, Bucky wins next week?

1657
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 2: All right, that's right.

1658
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 5: Thought you want to keep going in the i fi

1659
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 5: As World Cup Okay ten kilometer men's Freestyle. This is

1660
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 5: a cross country skiing competition. It's taking place in France

1661
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 5: UH this week on the seventeenth at four thirty eight

1662
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 5: Pacific Standard time. Frederick mock is taking UH is taking

1663
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 5: on Mike vermulin. Frederick is plus one fifteen while Mike

1664
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 5: is minus one sixty. Andy, oh quick, vermulin ver French

1665
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 5: to me.

1666
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 1: I like that, Bucky.

1667
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: So is that Frederick or Michael Frederick? I have Michael,

1668
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: So I'm going with Michael.

1669
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: No, no, you're going Frederick.

1670
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm more Frederick Frederick.

1671
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: To keep the score right, will you please.

1672
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 5: I'm looking this up right now, I'm looking this. I'm

1673
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 5: looking this up right now, looking this up. We'll be

1674
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 5: right back with with with the totals, all right, and

1675
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 5: my cart next.

1676
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: M hm h