Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. We
Speaker 1: have complied with the court's ordered four fifty three Eastern
Speaker 1: dayline time yesterday, and thanks for stopping by. We hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed Jack Smith Day. The nearly two hundred pages
Speaker 1: worth of evidence in the revised case of the United
Speaker 1: States of America Versus Disorderly Jay Trump submitted before the
Speaker 1: five pm deadline and under seal evidently not unsealed last
Speaker 1: night by Judge Tanya Chutkin, and no indication as to
Speaker 1: when it will be unsealed or when parts of it
Speaker 1: will be unsealed. On the other hand, Trump, as always
Speaker 1: confesses more than he convinces whenever he's scared. Early yesterday morning,
Speaker 1: he posted some weird even for him that I think
Speaker 1: gives us in broad strokes at least what he has
Speaker 1: heard about where Smith is going henceforth. The answer, I
Speaker 1: think is this Smith is still going virtually everywhere he
Speaker 1: was going before the Supreme Court immunity decision. Smith may
Speaker 1: have found some way around that Supreme Court ruling. I mean,
Speaker 1: listen to the newest of Trump's three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: seven different explanations for what happened on January sixth, quoting
Speaker 1: shocking breaking news as exposed by John Solomon and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah and the great work of Congressman Barry
Speaker 1: Loudermilk and Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. The Deep
Speaker 1: State chose to disregard my direct authorization of at least
Speaker 1: ten thousand National Guard troops to ensure that Washington, DC
Speaker 1: was safe and secure on January sixth, twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: These Deep State subversives disobeyed the President's directives, which would
Speaker 1: have prevented any unrest that day. January sixth, as it
Speaker 1: is known, would never have taken place. So to Barry
Speaker 1: louder Milk, your friendly Capitol Hill tour guide is too
Speaker 1: inscrutable even for me to try to figure out. But
Speaker 1: Trump has brought back his most frequently used lie about
Speaker 1: January sixth, which is that he offered troops but Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi turned them down. And though he left Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: out of that post, I just read, he did bring
Speaker 1: her up yesterday in the afternoon in remarks he made
Speaker 1: around the corner from me, here there goes the neighborhood again.
Speaker 1: In Trump's reptile brain. He must be working some kind
Speaker 1: of Everything I did that day was official, and everybody
Speaker 1: who responded to it was official. But they betrayed me,
Speaker 1: and they trade the official chain of command, and therefore
Speaker 1: I am immune from prosecution for everything. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing here, and that would dubtail neatly into something one
Speaker 1: of Trump's todys said on CNBC yesterday, Joe Kernan, the
Speaker 1: guy with the worst two pay on the network. It's
Speaker 1: so bad. It looks like he bought one two pay
Speaker 1: and thought it looked good, so much so that he
Speaker 1: bought a second one and put it on top of
Speaker 1: the first one, and he wears them both at the
Speaker 1: same time. Listen to this and see if it doesn't
Speaker 1: line up with the idea that the whole day was
Speaker 1: somebody else's fault. Quoting Joe Kernan in the heat of
Speaker 1: that moment, at that point, I think he really did
Speaker 1: believe that it the election had been stolen. At that point,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he believes it anymore. Well, Joe,
Speaker 1: that's all right. Then, in the heat of the moment,
Speaker 1: when I smashed through the giant, forty foot wide plate
Speaker 1: glass window in the front of J. C. Pennies. I
Speaker 1: really did believe that that was my washer dryer combo
Speaker 1: in there. So Trump may be saying everything I did
Speaker 1: on January sixth and before was official, and all the
Speaker 1: charges against me must be dismissed. And why would he
Speaker 1: do that? He might do that because Smith may have
Speaker 1: found some way to say, no, guess what, none of
Speaker 1: it is official. And again I'm way out on a
Speaker 1: limb here. But the means to that end none of
Speaker 1: this is official. He is immune from none of it.
Speaker 1: The means to that end could be to start your
Speaker 1: case by proving that long before the insurrection started it
Speaker 1: on January sixth, and long before the Christmas time meetings,
Speaker 1: and long before the frivolous lawsuits started in November and December,
Speaker 1: Trump knew damned well he had lost, and that none
Speaker 1: of his actions were as president, that all of his
Speaker 1: actions were as private citizen and politician. And if Smith
Speaker 1: can prove that the Supreme Court's corrupt ruling on presidential
Speaker 1: immunity means nothing, we'll see briefly some new polls national
Speaker 1: all likely voters yesterday, Harris fifty Trump forty six, Big village.
Speaker 1: That's four points Harris fifty three Trump forty seven. Outward
Speaker 1: Intelligence polling, that's six points Harris fifty two to Trump
Speaker 1: forty five. Echelon Insights that's seven points. One non swing
Speaker 1: state poll Maryland, where it's sixty three point thirty one Harris,
Speaker 1: and it's two Democrats for every Republican. This is mentioned
Speaker 1: only because it's a Washington Post poll and it includes
Speaker 1: the Senate run with the popular Republican former Governor Larry
Speaker 1: Hogan to their hopes of taking the Senate back, and
Speaker 1: he's trailing the Democrat Angela also Brooks fifty one to
Speaker 1: forty so that's also Brooks by eleven over also ran. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: in the most shocking development in the history of the
Speaker 1: governance of the City of New York since at least Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Mayor Eric Adams has been indicted on charges of acting
Speaker 1: as a foreign agent for the government of the Turkish
Speaker 1: dictator Erdwan, of getting the new Turkish embassy here opened
Speaker 1: before fire inspections had been completed, and for basically ending
Speaker 1: his career for something like one hundred and forty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars over eight years, mostly in flight upgrades and Kushier
Speaker 1: hotel rooms. So like seventeen thousand dollars a year, plus
Speaker 1: foreign contributions to his campaign for mayor that were illegally
Speaker 1: washed through fake don't owns, and which in turn entitled
Speaker 1: him to matching public funds for his campaign, maybe as
Speaker 1: much as ten million dollars. He didn't get ten million
Speaker 1: dollars his campaign did. Don't blame me, I voted for
Speaker 1: the garbage commissioner. Lady Adam says he is not resigning.
Speaker 1: But if you would like your I'm not resigning news
Speaker 1: conference to get off to the worst possible start, you
Speaker 1: do what he did. You go out and stand in
Speaker 1: front of the mayor's official residence, Gracie Mansion. And that's
Speaker 1: when you discover that your opponents have brought a bullhorn,
Speaker 1: and the bullhorn is louder than your own portable public
Speaker 1: address system. Can you hear me? Now? This is serious stuff.
Speaker 1: All evidence to the contrary. I mean it is small scale.
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas here and frankly, if Adams were smart, he
Speaker 1: would announce he's joining the Republican Party by Monday. Harlan
Speaker 1: Crow and Leonard Leo would have built a statue to him.
Speaker 1: And given that, symbolically Adams had to fight his way
Speaker 1: onto the street through the crowds of people fired from
Speaker 1: or quitting his administration over the last month. It is
Speaker 1: hard to believe he can remain in office. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's barely in office now as it is. But the
Speaker 1: rest of this, this is freaking hilarious. This is the
Speaker 1: best comedy material in New York this week, as this
Speaker 1: is the dumbest mayor of New York in my lifetime.
Speaker 1: This has to be the dumbest indictment of any politician
Speaker 1: in my lifetime. The Turks allegedly decided that this guy
Speaker 1: Adams was exactly the right New York City politician to
Speaker 1: invest in back when he was Borough president of Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I'm quoting from the indictment. During their meeting, Adams and
Speaker 1: the promoter solicited campaign contributions from Businessman three, who, as
Speaker 1: a Turkish national, could not lawfully contribute to any US campaign.
Speaker 1: During the meeting, Businessman three agreed to contribute fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars or more to the twenty twenty one campaign, believing
Speaker 1: that Adams might one day be the president of the
Speaker 1: United States and hoping to gain influence with Adams. This
Speaker 1: is like going into a fantasy Baseball draft with the
Speaker 1: first pick overall and saying, you know who I want?
Speaker 1: I want the backup catcher on the Chicago White Sox.
Speaker 1: He's gonna break all the records. They've already lost one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty games. Right wait, it gets worse. Quote.
Speaker 1: The Adams staffer also agreed to speak with FBI agents
Speaker 1: and falsely denied the criminal conduct of herself and Adams,
Speaker 1: among others. At one point during her voluntary interview, the
Speaker 1: Adams staffer excused herself to a bathroom and while there
Speaker 1: deleted the encrypted messaging applications she had used to communicate
Speaker 1: with Adams, the promoter, the Turkish official, the airline manager,
Speaker 1: and others. Unquote and oh we are far from done. Quote.
Speaker 1: On November six, twenty twenty three, FBI agents executed a
Speaker 1: search warrant for the electronic devices used by Eric Adams.
Speaker 1: Although Adams was carrying several electronic devices, including two cell phones,
Speaker 1: he was not carrying his personal cell phone, which is
Speaker 1: the device he used to communicate about the conduct described
Speaker 1: in this indictment. When Adams produced his personal cell phone
Speaker 1: the next day in response to a subpoena, it was
Speaker 1: locked such that the device required a password to open.
Speaker 1: Adams claimed that after he learned about the investigations into
Speaker 1: his conduct, he changed the password on November fifth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, and increase the complexity of his password from
Speaker 1: four digits to six. Obviously there's a typo in there.
Speaker 1: It's November fifth, twenty twenty three. But get that part again.
Speaker 1: He increased the complexity of his passwords from four ward
Speaker 1: digits to six. Adams had done this, he claimed to
Speaker 1: prevent members of his staff from inadvertently or intentionally deleting
Speaker 1: the contents of his phone, because, according to Adams, he
Speaker 1: wished to preserve the contents of his phone due to
Speaker 1: the investigation. But Adams further claimed he had forgotten the
Speaker 1: password he had just said, and thus was unable to
Speaker 1: provide the FBI with a password that would unlock the phone.
Speaker 1: You see that meme of the guy tapping his head
Speaker 1: to show how smart he is, don't you? Right now?
Speaker 1: The Adams premise here of courses, that he is Mayor
Speaker 1: of New York City not because he was elected, but
Speaker 1: because God has put him there. I wish I were exaggerating.
Speaker 1: I am not. Some of his past quotes quote I
Speaker 1: thank God I'm the mayor right now. And the famous
Speaker 1: nonsense elliptical statement quote, there is no way God created
Speaker 1: me for this moment. If he did not believe this
Speaker 1: was my moment, you could read that sentence backwards and
Speaker 1: it would make just as much sense. None. And this
Speaker 1: Messiah complex is not limited to his dishonor his niece
Speaker 1: who says she's an actress or a dancer or a
Speaker 1: singer or something. Danielle Adams Elias is just as nuts
Speaker 1: as he is.
Speaker 2: Young of an ax. I'm my uncle, Sorrial. I don't
Speaker 2: know how you feel. I don't care how you feel
Speaker 2: about whatever decisions he had to make that you would
Speaker 2: never understand. I don't care how you feel about anything, honestly,
Speaker 2: because nobody asked you. Like when God created his story,
Speaker 2: he didn't ask Sally Sue on the other line, if
Speaker 2: he can do it. That was what was chosen for
Speaker 2: this man because he was the man for the job. So,
Speaker 2: like I say every time, if you have a problem,
Speaker 2: taking up with Jesus, because we don't care, and that
Speaker 2: man will continue to do what the Lord told him
Speaker 2: to do. So y'all gonna relax on my uncle, because
Speaker 2: you could never stay in your purpose and relax. Take
Speaker 2: a seat.
Speaker 1: I think even the mayor would recognize his niece Danielle here,
Speaker 1: ain't helping please asks for help any who. It's not
Speaker 1: like anybody could have seen this coming, given that Adams
Speaker 1: won a ranked choice Democratic I'm Mary defeating the aforementioned
Speaker 1: sanitation commissioner and mayo Wiley. Adams has always had some
Speaker 1: curious support from some even more curious characters. Tucker Carlson,
Speaker 1: Remember Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson once asked, can Eric Adams
Speaker 1: save New York from itself? January twenty twenty two, The
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal printed is Mansion Adams the future of
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party Wonderland. Joe Biden may have become more progressive,
Speaker 1: but Joe Manchin and Eric Adams appear to believe the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party's future lies elsewhere. Yeah, evidently in Turkey. Am
Speaker 1: I right? Brett Stevens New York Times July twentieth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, opinion, Eric Adams is going to save New
Speaker 1: York and the best January three, twenty twenty two. Nate Silver,
Speaker 1: It's probably foolish, all right. You should have just deleted
Speaker 1: it at that point if you start something with. It's
Speaker 1: probably foolish. It's probably foolish. It's probably foolish. Nate wrote
Speaker 1: to think an NYC. Mayer will successfully translate into being
Speaker 1: a national political figure. But I still think Eric Adams
Speaker 1: would be in my top five for who will be
Speaker 1: the next Democratic presidential nominee after Joe Biden. He's going
Speaker 1: to be good at getting media attention, you bet your
Speaker 1: ass is. And he has a chance of carving out
Speaker 1: a niche that's different from what other Democrats are offering.
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was from Turkey. That's a niche. Okay,
Speaker 1: That's a potentially powerful combination given how primaries are conducted nowadays. Also,
Speaker 1: the competition isn't great. Twenty twenty two, Nate goes on
Speaker 1: to specifically insist that Eric Adams was a better bet
Speaker 1: to succeed Joe Biden than was Kamala Harris, who had
Speaker 1: already been vice president for a year. And if you
Speaker 1: think this is over the support Democrats who are actually
Speaker 1: corrupt Republicans campaign, guess who wrote the lead story yesterday
Speaker 1: analyzing the charges against Adams for the amazingly fictional fascist
Speaker 1: Murdoch propaganda rag. Here The New York Post. It was
Speaker 1: written by Jonathan Effing Turley and his lead and his
Speaker 1: conclusion there may be less here than meets the eye.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you he's going to try
Speaker 1: to stay on as mayor as a Republican. You watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know the odds are long, and I just quoted
Speaker 1: Nate Silver and you should never make a prediction after
Speaker 1: Nate Silver has just proved you should never make predictions
Speaker 1: like that. But I am. I'm on a one game
Speaker 1: winning streak. I did mention Wednesday. I think that all
Speaker 1: the sturm undrong by the New York Times, by the
Speaker 1: Washington Post, by Politico, even by Judd Legum of Popular
Speaker 1: Information over whether or not to publish the internal Trump
Speaker 1: campaign documents allegedly hacked by Iran and offered around the
Speaker 1: news business by someone calling themselves Robert, that that was
Speaker 1: all academic. That soon or late, Robert's rules of order
Speaker 1: would lead Robert to connect with some kind of independent
Speaker 1: journalists who would look at it to make sure they
Speaker 1: weren't jeopardizing themselves legally and then say, ef it here
Speaker 1: it is. I Actually, silly, old guy me thought this
Speaker 1: wouldn't happen till next month. Instead, it happened yesterday. Kenklippenstein,
Speaker 1: formerly of The Intercept, published it. Ken Klippenstein put it
Speaker 1: online yesterday, got suspended by Elon Musk for his trouble
Speaker 1: because Elon Musk is soft as church music. And it's
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy one pages about jd Vance. It's
Speaker 1: the jd Vance file. And while, as Klippeteine notes, it
Speaker 1: does give you a kind of checklist for what the
Speaker 1: Trump campaign likes best about JV, and what it likes
Speaker 1: least about JV, and what it's kind of mad about JV,
Speaker 1: there is nothing compelling in there. Doesn't even identify his
Speaker 1: brand a choice and eyeliner. Clippenstein then goes to the
Speaker 1: heart of the matter to quote his post. If the
Speaker 1: document had been hacked by some anonymous like hacker group,
Speaker 1: the news media would be all over it. I'm just
Speaker 1: not a believer of the news media as an arm
Speaker 1: of the government doing its work combating foreign influence, nor
Speaker 1: should it be a gatekeeper of what the public should know.
Speaker 1: The gatekeeper and government parts are debatable. Those actions can
Speaker 1: on occasion be defended. But he nails the whole other thing.
Speaker 1: The Times, the Post, and the others looked at this
Speaker 1: and they said, this is boring as crap it, My god,
Speaker 1: look at the opportunity we can put on a performative
Speaker 1: dance here portraying ourselves as martyrs to the cause of
Speaker 1: responsible journalism, and it doesn't even cost us a good story.
Speaker 1: There's one cautionary aside, though, Liz Mayor m Ai r
Speaker 1: the kind of all over the map political operative who's
Speaker 1: probably not only the only person who have worked on
Speaker 1: the campaigns of both Rishi Sunak and Carly Fiorina, but
Speaker 1: very probably the only person on the planet to know
Speaker 1: who both Rishi Sunak and Carly Fiorina are. She has
Speaker 1: read the whole thing. I'm sorry, my god, did you
Speaker 1: think I had read the whole thing? Two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy one pages about J. D. Vance? How many lives
Speaker 1: you think I got here? Anyway, she read it, and
Speaker 1: Liz Mayer says what matters is what's not in it,
Speaker 1: quoting her, There is more damaging stuff to be found
Speaker 1: on Vance. I guess the Trump team missed it, and
Speaker 1: so have Dems. I have no interest in tearing Vance down.
Speaker 1: I disagree with him profoundly on many issues, but we
Speaker 1: have too much in common in our bios and backgrounds,
Speaker 1: so I'll leave it alone. Well, there's one politico placing
Speaker 1: country at a party, my ass, So there's more to
Speaker 1: look for. The message of this unpublishable, now published not
Speaker 1: that interesting JD Vance compendium is they left the good
Speaker 1: stuff out and it's still out there. Not to worry, though,
Speaker 1: traditional media is still burying one story at least a
Speaker 1: far more import than that, and with far more evident
Speaker 1: help from the government. In the burial, The independent site
Speaker 1: Notice writes, quote, lawmakers are still waiting on the Pentagon
Speaker 1: for more details about what happened between Donald Trump's campaign
Speaker 1: and Arlington National Cemetery's staff during last month's memorial service
Speaker 1: for soldiers who died during the Afghanistan withdrawal. The Pentagon
Speaker 1: appears to be hoping the lawmakers just forget about it.
Speaker 1: Department of Defense officials informally told at least one congressional
Speaker 1: office to let the issue fade into the background. A
Speaker 1: Congressional aid told Notice. The aide said the Pentagon offices
Speaker 1: on both sides of the aisle to move on from
Speaker 1: the incident. When reach for comment, the Department of Defense
Speaker 1: referred Notice to the Department of the Army. Note that
Speaker 1: as in aside its statements like that last one, the
Speaker 1: Department of Defense referred you to the Department of the Army.
Speaker 1: It's statements like that one that led Joseph Heller to
Speaker 1: dream up the notion of catch twenty two to resume
Speaker 1: quoting from the notice report. The altercation prompted Congressional Democrats
Speaker 1: to request a copy of the incident report outlining what
Speaker 1: had happened. The official report hasn't yet been released, but
Speaker 1: their quiet appeal to at least one lawmaker's office regarding
Speaker 1: the request for the full incident report shows the challenges
Speaker 1: the Department of Defense faces in the current political landscape. Unquote.
Speaker 1: So apparently there is some illusion that if they just
Speaker 1: shut up about it, this and the prospect of anybody
Speaker 1: who's ever been in the mill terry getting involved in
Speaker 1: the election in any way, shape or form, like you know,
Speaker 1: uh Iraq Army disinformation specialist JD. Whatever his name was, vance,
Speaker 1: that all this will just vanish no military involvement. In
Speaker 1: an unrelated story, Kamala Harris has just been endorsed in
Speaker 1: a New York Times up ed by the guy who
Speaker 1: was killing al Qaeda leaders in Iraq for George Bush
Speaker 1: twenty years ago and mocking President Obama and Vice President
Speaker 1: Biden fifteen years ago, General Stan McCrystal. Thank god they
Speaker 1: are keeping that wall up between the warriors and real patriotism.
Speaker 1: Also of interest here, you have to hand it to
Speaker 1: white trash Congressman Clay Higgins. While he was trying to
Speaker 1: claim he only meant Haitian gang members, not the Haitians
Speaker 1: in Ohio, Well he was doing that, he was simultaneously
Speaker 1: telling CNN, no, he meant every word. He'd posted about
Speaker 1: Haitians and voodoo and get out by January twentieth, and
Speaker 1: he'd posted again. Now here is a tease. We will
Speaker 1: be premiering on Monday, a new revised version of the
Speaker 1: Countdown theme music specially recast for the election home stretch Monday.
Speaker 1: But I can now offer you a tease. This is next.
Speaker 1: This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith Olberman still
Speaker 1: ahead of us on this edition of Countdown. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, but I need a break from this crap. Adams,
Speaker 1: holy crap, I'm gonna take one. I'm telling you, just
Speaker 1: become a Republican. You'll either be on the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: or you'll be the presidential nominee by next week. We'll
Speaker 1: take a break Friday's with Thurber. One of Thurber's dog stories.
Speaker 1: It's not the sweetest of his dog stories, but it's
Speaker 1: easily the funniest of his dog stories. And it's a
Speaker 1: Thurber dog story. Next. Okay, break time over. There are
Speaker 1: still more new idiots to talk about. A rollicking edition
Speaker 1: of the daily roundup of the misgrants, morons and Dunning
Speaker 1: Kruger effects specimens who constitute two days worst persons in
Speaker 1: the world. And sometimes this is satirical. Sometimes this is
Speaker 1: directed at me. Sometimes this is poking fun at friends
Speaker 1: or colleagues. No, not this time. I mean every word
Speaker 1: of this. These are three of the scumbaggiest people in
Speaker 1: the world. As John Clees once set on Faulty Towers.
Speaker 1: This is total ass worse the bronze former New York
Speaker 1: Mayor Rudy ass Giuliani for once, though I'll give him this.
Speaker 1: The timing work to Rudy's benefit. This happened to him
Speaker 1: on the day the current mayor gets indicted for selling
Speaker 1: his soul for like an upgrade from business class aisle
Speaker 1: to business class window on a flight to Turkey the Schmndrick. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: in Washington Rudy, who after nine to eleven thought we
Speaker 1: should cancel the election and just let him stay on
Speaker 1: as mayor because so what if that was what the
Speaker 1: terrorists would have wanted? He was wooty. Woody has just
Speaker 1: been disbawd, no longer allowed to practice law in the
Speaker 1: District of Columbia, which is especially sad because clearly Rudy
Speaker 1: needed way more practice. I will say this, between Rudy's
Speaker 1: dispartment and the indictment of Adams, only needed one more
Speaker 1: event to make this the biggest week for scumbag New
Speaker 1: York mayors in the proud history of my hometown. Like,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody could have done something about Jimmy bo James Walker,
Speaker 1: who was forced out of office in nineteen thirty two
Speaker 1: after a series of scandals, including his own chosen cops
Speaker 1: arresting ordinary women on the streets of New York City
Speaker 1: and charging them with prostitution, literally charging them with street
Speaker 1: walking because they were literally walking on the streets and
Speaker 1: holding them unless they paid off the cops with cash
Speaker 1: or other considerations. Mayor Walker was allowed to flee to
Speaker 1: Europe with his mistress. But he came back six or
Speaker 1: seven years later and naturally became a disc jockey on
Speaker 1: WHN radio. Hi, I'm your corrupt mayor on WHN New York.
Speaker 1: Walker is buried in suburban Hawthorne, New York. Maybe somebody
Speaker 1: should have gone up yesterday and danced on his grave
Speaker 1: or something, just to finish off the hat trick. The
Speaker 1: runner up worser, Dylan Buyers of Puck Puck is another
Speaker 1: one of those subscription outlets in which the emphasis is
Speaker 1: on pretending that doing press releases for corporations and executives
Speaker 1: and the powerful that that constitutes some kind of quote news.
Speaker 1: I've mentioned Dylan Buyers before when, in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: I concluded the last round of a decade's worth of
Speaker 1: dancing with MSNBC about going back to do a show there,
Speaker 1: Buyers contacted me and told me that all I had
Speaker 1: told him, and all I had said in public about
Speaker 1: my negotiations with the then head of Comcast, Jeff Schell,
Speaker 1: all of it was not true because a spokesman from
Speaker 1: NBC had told him it was not true. I asked him, naturally,
Speaker 1: which spokesman, and he said he couldn't tell me. He
Speaker 1: said the spokesman had agreed to be referenced in a story,
Speaker 1: but never by name. I asked him what the spokesman
Speaker 1: had said specifically. He said he couldn't tell me that either.
Speaker 1: That was part of the deal with them too. I
Speaker 1: then sent him screenshots of all of my email correspondence
Speaker 1: with Jeff Shell and NBC News figure head, says Arcande,
Speaker 1: to confirm that what I had been saying was true
Speaker 1: and what the spokesman had not really been saying was
Speaker 1: not true. And Byers reacted with shock, like you told
Speaker 1: him he was adopted. I mean, he was genuinely surprised
Speaker 1: that NBC PR people had lied to him, like what
Speaker 1: was the first time it happened in world historily, I
Speaker 1: mean repeatedly lied to him. In fact, each thing the
Speaker 1: anonymous spokesman had told him wasn't just wrong, it was
Speaker 1: a lie. In his follow up story, Buyers still somehow
Speaker 1: managed to carry some of NBC's waters for it by
Speaker 1: saying that I should have known that Jeff Shell was
Speaker 1: lying to me. That's not quite the flex you think
Speaker 1: it is. In any event, Byers has now moved on
Speaker 1: to the Oliviya newsy RFK junior story and is surprisingly
Speaker 1: enough carrying water for RFK Junior. He's one of these
Speaker 1: morons propagating the idea that RFK is going to get
Speaker 1: Newsy prosecuted or arrested or sued because she sent him
Speaker 1: photos of herself that he wanted and he never bothered
Speaker 1: to tell her bosses to ask her to stop. But
Speaker 1: he's RFK and the other one's Dylan Byer, so Dylan
Speaker 1: Byers must serve him. Dylan Byers wrote up the story
Speaker 1: for Puck on Wednesday night, and since I regularly swipe
Speaker 1: at him on Twitter and here for doing crap like this,
Speaker 1: he decided to throw me into his update and said
Speaker 1: I had rushed. Was the word rushed to remind everybody
Speaker 1: that Olivia and I had lived together and that I
Speaker 1: should grow up. I rushed. I never revealed the relationship
Speaker 1: publicly from the time it started until Monday afternoon of
Speaker 1: this week, when the New York Post found out and
Speaker 1: asked me. And thus I followed the age old truth
Speaker 1: about how to deal with reporters barging in on your
Speaker 1: personal life. If you can blow up their scoop, report
Speaker 1: what they're going to report before they can report it,
Speaker 1: it isn't much but at all, always ruins their day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I rushed, Dylan. I kept it private, as it would
Speaker 1: have stayed private for well over a decade. I rushed.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't run fast, but I can rush
Speaker 1: faster than ten years worth idiot. I'd urge you to
Speaker 1: grow up too, but in fact I like dealing with
Speaker 1: you as you are a child. It's much easier to
Speaker 1: send you to bed without your supper this way. Oh
Speaker 1: and I might add. A couple of years ago, a
Speaker 1: prominent reporter got a terrible fatal diagnosis about an awful disease,
Speaker 1: and within weeks, Dylan Byers had written an article in
Speaker 1: which he gratuitously threw the reporter's name into the story
Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with him, and insulted him
Speaker 1: just to drive by shot at a dying man for
Speaker 1: no reason and with no explanation. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of bad media reporters. This Buyer's guy is the worst,
Speaker 1: but ultimately he's still only a media reporter. So if
Speaker 1: somebody else showed us up Monday claiming to be Dylan
Speaker 1: Byer's and it's a different guy, nobody will know the difference.
Speaker 1: A media reporter cannot even win the worst person's competition
Speaker 1: because the winner the worst is white trash Congressman Clay Higgins, R.
Speaker 1: Louisiana and the R standful rathist. You will recall, Higgins
Speaker 1: came this close to dropping the N word Wednesday on
Speaker 1: the Haitian Bridge Group, which sued in Ohio to get
Speaker 1: local prosecutors to charge Trump Advance for attempting to get
Speaker 1: the legal Haitian migrants in Ohio, you know killed. Higgins
Speaker 1: responded with something that even for this David Duke supporting
Speaker 1: the clans to liberal for him, ghost bus hallucinating, insurrectionist asshole,
Speaker 1: Even for him, this was astonishing. He screenshoted that news
Speaker 1: story and again the story was about a legal motion
Speaker 1: in an American local court by Americans, and Higgins added
Speaker 1: on his congressional account, while these Haitians are our wild
Speaker 1: eating pets voodoo spelled vudu, by the way, nastiest country
Speaker 1: in the Western Hemisphere. Cults slapstick gangsters, but damned if
Speaker 1: they don't feel all sophisticated. Now he's so close to
Speaker 1: the N word filing charges against our president, and VP
Speaker 1: Trump's not President Vance is not VP Clay Higgins has
Speaker 1: probably stoned all these dougs. Better get their mind rat
Speaker 1: and to ask out of our countra. Before January twentieth,
Speaker 1: he said in that patois of Louisiana. Patua is a
Speaker 1: nice word where you got shit in your mouth. The
Speaker 1: speaker and chief buffoon of the House, Mike Johnson, also
Speaker 1: of Louisiana, then zaid Higgins had prayed on what he
Speaker 1: had written, realized it was in error, and deleted the
Speaker 1: post as a gentleman would. Yesterday this excrem at, Higgins
Speaker 1: tried to walk it back, claiming he was talking about
Speaker 1: Haitian gangs in Ohio, even though there aren't any Haitian
Speaker 1: gangs in Ohio and he didn't refer to gangs, and
Speaker 1: the filers of the lawsuit who he threatened with expulsion
Speaker 1: and targeted for stochastic violence are members of a community
Speaker 1: support group, not a gang. You never want to intentionally
Speaker 1: hurt someone's feelings. I wish I could do the John
Speaker 1: Candy Louisiana accent from the JFK movie. You never want
Speaker 1: to intentionally hurt someone's feelings. And that post was intended
Speaker 1: for Haitian gangs, you understand, or the one from Kevin
Speaker 1: Bacon when he's asking, never mind, you never want to
Speaker 1: intentionally hurt someone's feelings. And that post was intended for
Speaker 1: Haitian gangs, you understand, not for I mean Haiti as
Speaker 1: a country, not at all. And the unintended impact that
Speaker 1: was expressed very sincerely from one of my colleagues, very
Speaker 1: graciously that touched me as a gentleman. Well you're not
Speaker 1: a gentleman, so what the hell you're talking about. It's
Speaker 1: bad enough that this Higgins, who has behaved in public
Speaker 1: life as a disgraced fired cop, as a white supremacist,
Speaker 1: as an insurrectionist, as a guy with the only known
Speaker 1: IQ that's in negative numbers, who apparently heard the movie
Speaker 1: titled Ghostbusters once and drew from it this concept of
Speaker 1: ghost busses on January sixth, and still has never even
Speaker 1: bothered to explain what he thinks ghost busses are. This
Speaker 1: guy who acts like he is the child of an
Speaker 1: alligator that mate it with a barrel of rotten fish.
Speaker 1: It's bad enough that he is pretending he said something
Speaker 1: far less destructive than he did on that deleted tweet.
Speaker 1: But it turns out that Higgins almost simultaneously doubled down
Speaker 1: on the original racist tweet about the Haitians. CNN asked
Speaker 1: him for a comment, and he replied about his remarks
Speaker 1: about the Haitians quote, it's all true. I can put
Speaker 1: up another controversial post tomorrow if you want me to.
Speaker 1: I mean, we do have freedom of speech. I'll say
Speaker 1: what I want. It's not a big deal to me.
Speaker 1: It's like something stuck to the bottom of my boot.
Speaker 1: Just scrape it off and move on with my life. Unquote. Hey,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't scrape too hard there, Higgins sounds like what
Speaker 1: that something stuck to the bottom of your boot is?
Speaker 1: Is all that's left of your meager, insufficient, worthless soul.
Speaker 1: Representative Clay Higgins of Louisiana White Trash, Today's worst person
Speaker 1: in the world to the number one story on the
Speaker 1: Countdown on Fridays with Thurber. And it's amazing to me
Speaker 1: in retrospect, how I read all of his wonderful, realistic,
Speaker 1: not goopy writing about dogs and enjoyed it thoroughly, years
Speaker 1: before I was ever adopted by a dog. Now, reading
Speaker 1: his dog stories and anecdotes is like reading about a
Speaker 1: bunch of friends, even that one surly friend for whom
Speaker 1: we must continuously make excuses. The dog that bit people
Speaker 1: by James Thurber. Probably no one man should have as
Speaker 1: many dogs in this life as I have had, but
Speaker 1: there was more pleasure than distress in them for me,
Speaker 1: except in the case of an Airdale named Mugs. He
Speaker 1: gave me more trouble than all the other fifty four
Speaker 1: or five put together. Although my moment of keenest embarrassment
Speaker 1: was the time a Scotch Terrier named Jeanie, who had
Speaker 1: just had six puppies in the clothes closet of a
Speaker 1: fourth floor apartment in New York, had the unexpected seventh
Speaker 1: and last at the corner of Eleventh Street and Fifth
Speaker 1: Avenue during a walk she had insisted on taking. Then
Speaker 1: two there was the prize winning French poodle, a giant,
Speaker 1: big black poodle, none of your little, untroublesome white miniatures,
Speaker 1: who got sick riding in the rumble seat of a
Speaker 1: car with me on her way to the Greenwich Dog Show.
Speaker 1: She had a red rubber bib tucked around her throat,
Speaker 1: and since a rain storm came up when we were
Speaker 1: halfway through the Bronx, I had to hold over her
Speaker 1: a small green umbrella, really more of a parasol. The
Speaker 1: rain beat down fearfully, and suddenly the driver of the
Speaker 1: car drove into a big garage filled with mechanics. It
Speaker 1: happened so quickly that I forgot to put the umbrella down,
Speaker 1: and I will always remember with sickening distress the look
Speaker 1: of incredulity mixed with hatred that came over the face
Speaker 1: of the particular hardened garage man that came over to
Speaker 1: see what we wanted when he took a look at
Speaker 1: me and the poodle. All garage men and people of
Speaker 1: that intolerant stripe hate poodles with their curious haircuts, especially
Speaker 1: the pom poms that you got to leave on their
Speaker 1: hips if you expect the dogs to win a prize.
Speaker 1: But the Airdale, as I have said, was the worst
Speaker 1: of all my dogs. He really wasn't my dog. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I came home from vacation one summer to
Speaker 1: find that my brother Roy had bought him while I
Speaker 1: was away, a big, burly, choleric dog. He always acted
Speaker 1: as if he thought I wasn't one of the family.
Speaker 1: There was a slight advantage in being one of the family,
Speaker 1: for he didn't bite the family as often as a
Speaker 1: bit strangers. Still, in the years that we had him,
Speaker 1: he bit everybody but mother, and he made a pass
Speaker 1: at her once but missed. It was during the month
Speaker 1: when we suddenly had mice, and Mugs refused to do
Speaker 1: anything about them. Nobody ever had mice exactly like the
Speaker 1: mice we had that month. They acted like pet mice,
Speaker 1: almost like mice somebody had trained. They were so friendly
Speaker 1: that one night, when Mother entertained at dinner the freer Realiras,
Speaker 1: a club she and my father had belonged to for
Speaker 1: twenty years, she put down a lot of little dishes
Speaker 1: with food in them on the pantry floor so that
Speaker 1: the mice would be satisfied with that and would not
Speaker 1: come into the dining room. Mugs stayed out in the
Speaker 1: pantry with the mice lying on the floor, growling to himself,
Speaker 1: not at the mice, but about all the people in
Speaker 1: the next room that he would have liked to get at.
Speaker 1: Mother slipped out into the pantry once to see how
Speaker 1: everything was going. Everything was going fine. It made her
Speaker 1: so mad to see Mugs lying there oblivious of the mice.
Speaker 1: They came running up to her that she slapped him,
Speaker 1: and he slashed at her, but didn't make it. He
Speaker 1: was sorry immediately. Mother said he was always sorry, she
Speaker 1: said after he bit someone. But we could not understand
Speaker 1: how she figured this out. He didn't act sorry. Mother
Speaker 1: used to send a box of candy every Christmas to
Speaker 1: the people the Airdale bit. The list finally contained forty
Speaker 1: or more names. Nobody could understand why we did not
Speaker 1: get rid of the dog. I didn't understand it very
Speaker 1: well myself, but we didn't get rid of him. I
Speaker 1: think that one or two people tried to poison Mugs.
Speaker 1: He acted poisoned once in a while, and old Major
Speaker 1: Moberly fired at him once with his service revolver near
Speaker 1: the Seneca Hotel and he's Broad Street. But Muggs lived
Speaker 1: to almost eleven years old, and even when he could
Speaker 1: hardly get around. He bit a congressman who had called
Speaker 1: to see my father on business. My mother had never
Speaker 1: liked the congressman. She said the signs of his horoscope
Speaker 1: showed he couldn't be trusted. He was Saturn with the
Speaker 1: moon and Virgo. But she sent him a box of
Speaker 1: candy that Christmas. Anyway, he sent it right back, probably
Speaker 1: because he suspected it was trick candy. Mother persuaded herself
Speaker 1: that it was all for the best that the dog
Speaker 1: had bitten him, even though father lost an important business
Speaker 1: association because of it. I wouldn't be associated with such
Speaker 1: a man. Mother said, Mugs could read him lack a book.
Speaker 1: We used to take turns feeding Mugs to be on
Speaker 1: his good side, but that didn't always work. He was
Speaker 1: never in a very good humor even after a meal.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew exactly what was the matter with him, but
Speaker 1: whatever it was, it made him irascible, especially in the mornings.
Speaker 1: Roy my brother, never felt very well in the morning either,
Speaker 1: especially before breakfast, And once when he came downstairs and
Speaker 1: found that Mugs had moodily chewed up the morning paper,
Speaker 1: he hit him in the face with a grapefruit and
Speaker 1: then jumped up on the dining room table, scattering dishes
Speaker 1: and silverware and spilling the coffee. Muggs first free leap
Speaker 1: carried him all the way across the table and into
Speaker 1: a brass fire screen in front of the gas grate,
Speaker 1: but he was back on his feet in a moment,
Speaker 1: and in the end he got Roy and gave him
Speaker 1: a pretty vicious bite in the leg. Then he was
Speaker 1: all over it. He never bid anyone more than once
Speaker 1: at a time. Mother always mentioned that as an argument
Speaker 1: in his favor. She said he had a quick temper,
Speaker 1: but that he didn't hold grudge. She was forever defending him.
Speaker 1: I think she liked him because he wasn't well. He's
Speaker 1: not strong, she would say pityingly, but that was inaccurate.
Speaker 1: He may not have been well, but he was terribly strong.
Speaker 1: One time my mother went to the Chittenden Hotel to
Speaker 1: call on a woman mental healer who was lecturing in
Speaker 1: Columbus on the subject of harmonious vibrations. She wanted to
Speaker 1: find out if it was possible to get harmonious vibrations
Speaker 1: into a dog. He's a large, tan colored Airdale, Mother explained.
Speaker 1: The woman said that she had never treated a dog,
Speaker 1: but she advised my mother to hold the thought that
Speaker 1: he did not bite and would not bite. Mother was
Speaker 1: holding the thought the very next morning when Muggs got
Speaker 1: the iceman. But she blamed that slip up on the iceman.
Speaker 1: If you didn't think he would bite you, he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Mother told himmped out of the house in a terrible
Speaker 1: jangle of vibrations. One morning when Mugs bit me slightly
Speaker 1: more or less in passing. I reached down and grabbed
Speaker 1: his short, stumpy tail and hoisted him into the air.
Speaker 1: It was a foolhardy thing to do, and the last
Speaker 1: time I saw my mother, about six months ago, she
Speaker 1: said she didn't know what possessed me. I don't either,
Speaker 1: except that I was pretty mad. As long as I
Speaker 1: held the dog off the floor by his tail, he
Speaker 1: couldn't get at me. But he twisted and jerked so
Speaker 1: snarling all the time that I realized I couldn't hold
Speaker 1: him that way very long, and I carried him into
Speaker 1: the kitchen and flung him onto the floor and shut
Speaker 1: the door on him just as he crashed against it.
Speaker 1: But I forgot about the backstairs. Muggs went up the
Speaker 1: backstairs and down the front stairs and had me cornered
Speaker 1: in the living room. I managed to get up out
Speaker 1: of the mantelpiece above the fireplace, but it gave way
Speaker 1: and came down with a tremendous crash, throwing a large
Speaker 1: marble clock, several vases, and myself heavily to the floor.
Speaker 1: Muggs was so alarmed by the racket that when I
Speaker 1: picked myself up, he had disappeared. We couldn't find him anywhere,
Speaker 1: although we whistled and shouted until old Missus Dettweiler called
Speaker 1: after dinner that night. Muggs had bitten her once in
Speaker 1: the leg, and she came into the living room only
Speaker 1: after we assured her that Muggs had run away. She
Speaker 1: had just seated herself when with great growling and scratching
Speaker 1: of claws, Mugs emerged from under a davenport where he
Speaker 1: had been quietly hiding all the time and bit her again.
Speaker 1: Mother examined the bite and put arnica on it and
Speaker 1: told Missus Dttweiler that it was only a bruise. He
Speaker 1: just bumped you, she said. But Missus Dettwiler left our
Speaker 1: house in a nasty state of mind. Lots of people
Speaker 1: reported our airdale to the police, but my father held
Speaker 1: a municipal office at the time and was on friendly
Speaker 1: terms with the police. Even so, the cops had been
Speaker 1: out a couple of times, once when Mugs bit Missus
Speaker 1: rufus Sturt event and again when he bit Lieutenant Governor Molloy,
Speaker 1: But Mother told him it hadn't been Muggs's fault, but
Speaker 1: the fault of the people who were bitten. When he
Speaker 1: starts for them, they scream, she explained, and that excites him.
Speaker 1: The cops suggested that it might be a good idea
Speaker 1: to tie the dog up, but mother said that it
Speaker 1: mortified him to be tied up and that he wouldn't
Speaker 1: eat when he was tied up. Mugs at his meals
Speaker 1: was an unusual site because of the fact that if
Speaker 1: you reached toward the floor, he would bite you. We
Speaker 1: usually put his food plate on top of an old
Speaker 1: kitchen table with a bench alongside the table. Muggs would
Speaker 1: stand on the bench and eat. I remember that my
Speaker 1: mother's uncle Horatio, who boasted that he was the third
Speaker 1: man up Missionary Ridge, was flutteringly indignant when he found
Speaker 1: out that we fed the dog on a table because
Speaker 1: we were afraid to put his plate on the floor.
Speaker 1: He said he wasn't afraid of any dog that ever lived,
Speaker 1: and that he would put the dog's plate on the
Speaker 1: floor if we would give it to him. Roy said
Speaker 1: that if Uncle Horatio had fed Mugs on the ground
Speaker 1: just before the battle, he would have been the first
Speaker 1: man up Missionary Ridge. Uncle Horatio was furious. Ray, amen,
Speaker 1: bray amen, Now, he shouted, I'll feed them on the floor.
Speaker 1: Roy was all forgiving him a chance, but my father
Speaker 1: wouldn't hear of it. He said that Mugs had already
Speaker 1: been fed. I'll feed them again, bawled Uncle Horatio. We
Speaker 1: had quite a time quieting him. In his last year.
Speaker 1: Muggs used to spend practically all of his time outdoors.
Speaker 1: He didn't like to stay in the house for some
Speaker 1: reason or other. Perhaps it held too many unpleasant memories
Speaker 1: for him. Anyway, it was hard to get him to
Speaker 1: come in, and as a result, the garbage man, the iceman,
Speaker 1: and the laundryman would not come near our house. We
Speaker 1: had to haul the garbage down to the corner, take
Speaker 1: the laundry out, and bring it back and meet the
Speaker 1: iceman a block from home. After this had gone on
Speaker 1: for some time, we hit on an ingenious arrangement for
Speaker 1: getting the dog in the house so that we could
Speaker 1: lock him up while the gas meter was red and
Speaker 1: so on. Mugs was afraid of only one thing, an
Speaker 1: electrical storm. Thunder and lightning frightened him out of his senses.
Speaker 1: I think he thought a storm had broken the day
Speaker 1: the mantelpiece fell. He would rush into the house and
Speaker 1: hide under a bed or in a clothes closet, So
Speaker 1: we fixed up a thunder machine out of a long,
Speaker 1: narrow piece of sheet iron with a wooden handle on
Speaker 1: one end. Mother would shake this vigorously when she wanted
Speaker 1: to get Mugs into the house. Made an excellent imitation
Speaker 1: of thunder. But I suppose it was the most roundabout
Speaker 1: system for running a household that was ever devised. It
Speaker 1: took a lot out of mother. A few months before
Speaker 1: Mugs died, he got to seeing things. He would rise
Speaker 1: slowly from the floor, growling low and stalk, stiff legged
Speaker 1: and menacing toward nothing at all. Sometimes the thing would
Speaker 1: be just a little to the right or left of
Speaker 1: a visitor. Once a fuller brush salesman got hysterics, Muggs
Speaker 1: came wandering into the room like Hamlet, following his father's ghosts.
Speaker 1: His eyes were fixed on a spot just to the
Speaker 1: left of the fuller brush man, who stood it until
Speaker 1: Muggs was about three slow creeping paces from him. Then
Speaker 1: he shouted, Mugs wavered on past him into the hallway,
Speaker 1: grumbling to himself, but the fuller man went on shouting.
Speaker 1: I think Mother had to throw a pan of cold
Speaker 1: water on him before he stopped. That was the way
Speaker 1: she used to stop us boys when we got into fights.
Speaker 1: Muggs died quite suddenly one night. Mother wanted to bury
Speaker 1: him in the family lot under a marble stone with
Speaker 1: some such inscription as flights of angels sing thee to
Speaker 1: thy rest, but we persuaded her it was against the law.
Speaker 1: In the end we just put up a smooth board
Speaker 1: above his grave along a lonely road. On the board
Speaker 1: I wrote with an indelible pencil, cave Kanum. Mother was
Speaker 1: quite pleased with the simple, classic dignity of the old
Speaker 1: Latin epitaph The Dog that Bit People by James Thurber.
Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can here. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening, mugs. We are now back to five episodes
Speaker 1: a week, posting nightly just after midnight Eastern. Once again
Speaker 1: there is a Monday Countdown. Please send this podcast to
Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't listen but should, And a little preview
Speaker 1: of course about Monday, Monday Steedy day, you know what
Speaker 1: that means. Brian Ray and John Phillip Schhaneil the music
Speaker 1: Jeal directors of Countdown, arranged, produced and performed most of
Speaker 1: our music. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards, Mister Ray
Speaker 1: was on the guitars, bass and drums. It was produced
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Speaker 1: theme is also in Monday special edition. Our satirical and
Speaker 1: pithy musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organist ever,
Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. The sports music is the Old Woman theme
Speaker 1: from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of
Speaker 1: ESPN Inc. Other music arranged and performed by the group
Speaker 1: No Horns Allowed. My announcer today is my friend Larry David.
Speaker 1: Everything else was pretty much my fault. The that's countdown
Speaker 1: for today, five weeks and four days until the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four presidential election and the three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: first day since convicted felon drooling Jay Trump's first attempted
Speaker 1: coup against the democratically elected government of the United States.
Speaker 1: Use the election, use the mental health system, use presidential
Speaker 1: immunity if we have to, to keep him from doing
Speaker 1: it again while we still can. The next scheduled countdown
Speaker 1: is Monday bulletins as the news requires. Until then, I'm
Speaker 1: Keith Oulderman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck.
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