Speaker 1: What's that bed?
Speaker 2: It's Foy and Youki.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead kid's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, half said.
Speaker 1: Nyros jeffs e please, hey boo, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for listening to Ghosted by Me. Ros dress Fales. So
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a kind of controversial story
Speaker 1: on this week's episode. It's the story of Adam Alice
Speaker 1: and Dear David. Now, if you're a paranormal fan or
Speaker 1: you're like a Twitter head, you probably know this story.
Speaker 1: It was pretty popular in summer of twenty seventeen, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's still very popular. People still talk about it NonStop,
Speaker 1: and it turns out it's going to be turned into
Speaker 1: a movie. So if you don't know the story of
Speaker 1: Dear David, you could do a lot of Twitter digging.
Speaker 1: But there's also this amazing article by Lucia Peters on
Speaker 1: Bustle dot com that tells you everything that you need
Speaker 1: to know about Dear David. So here's what happened back
Speaker 1: in August of twenty seventeen. Adam Alice, who lives in
Speaker 1: New York City. He's an illustrator. He's also a writer,
Speaker 1: and he worked for BuzzFeed. He tweeted from his Twitter handle,
Speaker 1: which is at Moby underscore dickhead. So credible source. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You are listening to someone named Rozdresflees doing
Speaker 1: a retelling so that sounds like a you problem. So
Speaker 1: at Moby dickhead, he wrote, so my apartment is currently
Speaker 1: being haunted by the ghost of a dead child and
Speaker 1: he's trying to kill me. Now, listen, ghost children are scary.
Speaker 1: I agree. Perhaps they're even creepier than ghost adults to
Speaker 1: many people. But yeah, here's the because I always have
Speaker 1: people tell me, oh my god, ghost children are the
Speaker 1: spookiest ghost of all times. You know, uh oh if
Speaker 1: I saw a little child going la la la la la, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is spooky, but you have to remember that their children,
Speaker 1: they're still children, and the easiest way to calm down
Speaker 1: a child is with what fruit snacks? So just you know,
Speaker 1: give give a ghost some fruit snacks and I'll go away.
Speaker 1: So he goes on to say that there's this little
Speaker 1: boy with a missshapen head sitting in a green rocking
Speaker 1: chair at the foot of his bed. One night, he's
Speaker 1: like kind of wakes up in sleep paralysis and sees this.
Speaker 1: A few nights later, he dreamed in a library that
Speaker 1: a girl came up to him and said, oh, you
Speaker 1: know dear David, And he said who, and she said,
Speaker 1: dear David, you saw him. She then explained that David
Speaker 1: is dead and told him the rules of interacting with him. One,
Speaker 1: he only appears at midnight. Two, if you see him,
Speaker 1: you can ask him two questions as long as you
Speaker 1: say dear David first and three. Never ask three questions
Speaker 1: or he'll kill you. So Adam has another dream and
Speaker 1: he finds out that David died in an accident in
Speaker 1: a store, that an item fell on his head. So
Speaker 1: he moves into this new apartment and we're going to
Speaker 1: fast forward because this is a very long story. But
Speaker 1: so he eventually he lives in this building that is
Speaker 1: two apartment units, one on top of the other. He
Speaker 1: moves upstairs and he's thinking, you know, okay, maybe you
Speaker 1: know I won't hear from David. And he doesn't until
Speaker 1: he tweets that for the past four nights in his
Speaker 1: new apartment, his cats have been gathered at the front
Speaker 1: door at exactly midnight, staring as if something is on
Speaker 1: the other side of the door into the hallway. Of
Speaker 1: the building, and there's some videos of it. You could
Speaker 1: definitely tell these cats are looking at something. He then
Speaker 1: buys a Polaroid camera. He takes a picture of the
Speaker 1: hallway and it developed completely black. He even posted a
Speaker 1: video of him developing the picks so that you know,
Speaker 1: if any haters are watching, they can actually see him
Speaker 1: developing the photo and it is like pure black. It's
Speaker 1: not as if you have a he'd even posted what
Speaker 1: it looks like when he put his finger in front
Speaker 1: of the lens, and it's not that, it's just the
Speaker 1: color black. Then he took a picture inside of his
Speaker 1: apartment from a distance where you can see he has
Speaker 1: the hallway door open, so you can see out into
Speaker 1: the hallway of the building and it's just pure black.
Speaker 1: But you can see the rest of his apartment just
Speaker 1: black where the hallway is. Twitter users, you know they
Speaker 1: edited the photos. They put it through editing software and
Speaker 1: it seems legit, okay. So moving on, one night, he
Speaker 1: has a dream that David was dragging him through a warehouse.
Speaker 1: He woke up with a huge brew on his arm.
Speaker 1: Then there's this whole other story that goes on about
Speaker 1: this warehouse is by his house, that's empty and he'd
Speaker 1: never noticed it. And you'll learn more about it when
Speaker 1: you when you take your deep dive into the story. Okay,
Speaker 1: So then the cats start moving up their door appointments
Speaker 1: to ten pm. They're crying for fifteen minutes, and then
Speaker 1: he starts getting this is so creepy. So the cat's
Speaker 1: ten pm. They're screaming, looking outside the door underneath his
Speaker 1: doorframe into the hallway, just for fifteen minutes long, doesn't
Speaker 1: wow wow? And then as soon as it's over, he
Speaker 1: keeps getting these phone calls from an unlisted number. So
Speaker 1: one time he finally answered it and all he heard
Speaker 1: was static for like a minute, and then he's about
Speaker 1: to hang up and it gets quiet, and then he
Speaker 1: hears a small voice say hello. Hmm. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: story is like so long. He goes on to buy
Speaker 1: a pet monitoring camera. There's more stuff about the warehouse.
Speaker 1: He captured David on camera, and the pictures are seriously
Speaker 1: the most detailed photos of an apparition I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: which leads to speculation because you know, Adam Alice is
Speaker 1: a very successful writer and illustrators, so this whole ghost story,
Speaker 1: it could be a coincidence that, you know, someone that's
Speaker 1: a professional writer had all these amazing details. And he's
Speaker 1: also a very successful illustrator. If you're on Instagram, you've
Speaker 1: seen his cartoons. They're very popular. So it's possible he
Speaker 1: was able to make these photos of this this child
Speaker 1: with a squished in head that appeared in his bedroom.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I also choose to believe him. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but either way, you know, he's an amazing tweeter, So
Speaker 1: go check out his Instagram at Moby underscore dick head.
Speaker 1: But whether this story is, you know, real or not,
Speaker 1: it's a good story and it deserves a movie deal,
Speaker 1: which is why he got one. BuzzFeed Studios partnered with
Speaker 1: the producer of it, Dan Lynn, and Newline is going
Speaker 1: to be distributed in it. So honestly, I'm pretty jealous
Speaker 1: of this Adam Ellis guy, because he is pretty hot,
Speaker 1: he's super talented. In my opinion, he's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's getting a movie made about things that happen in
Speaker 1: his dreams. And I'm so poor and uncreative that even
Speaker 1: my dreams are in low budget. I even I even
Speaker 1: I've had dreams where I'm falling off a Cliff and
Speaker 1: it's literally in the dream, it's just me laying in
Speaker 1: front of a green screen wailing my arms around. So
Speaker 1: good for you. I've seen boom mics in my dreams.
Speaker 1: I don't think that they are non union shoots. I
Speaker 1: reached out to Adam Alice to have him on the show,
Speaker 1: and he very politely said that he's not doing interviews
Speaker 1: right now, so I appreciate him getting back to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe when he's on the movie tour, we'll have him over. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna go to someone that did say they
Speaker 1: would come here. Oh you guys. Today I am joined
Speaker 1: by a dear friend, an actor, comedian, a voiceover artist,
Speaker 1: a former burlesque dancer, a yard sale enthusiast, my dear friend,
Speaker 1: Soelenni Luna.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, Roz, thank you for having me,
Speaker 2: Thank you for doing here.
Speaker 1: And a fun thing about so Lene is that you
Speaker 1: played a ghost, right right, Yeah, played a ghost in
Speaker 1: the movie Coco. The Academy Award winning Disney Pixar featured Coco.
Speaker 2: That's right, And I'm just a random voice on one of.
Speaker 1: The main characters.
Speaker 2: Yes, I played Theerrosita and uh I you know, I
Speaker 2: do play a character in the afterlife. Ironically, I don't
Speaker 2: believe in it.
Speaker 1: How do you not believe in it? I mean you,
Speaker 1: I mean you. You're from Mexico, right, You're raised Catholic, correct, both,
Speaker 1: I mean Catholic culture, Mexican culture. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: beliefs of spirits in the afterlife and day of the dead.
Speaker 1: And you don't believe in it.
Speaker 2: That's right, And and you know I have I just
Speaker 2: had this thought. I do have to give my dad
Speaker 2: some a little bit of credit because although my mother
Speaker 2: instilled in us that we had to study Catholicism at
Speaker 2: least get our get through our first communion, because apparently
Speaker 2: that was like heaven insurance. Like to put it simply,
Speaker 2: if you did your first communion, then your parents could
Speaker 2: be reassured that you do have your foot in the
Speaker 2: door and the pearly gates. Sure so, and we were
Speaker 2: allowed to drop out out of Catholic Criticism whatever it
Speaker 2: was called, the Catholic school we did on the weekends.
Speaker 2: So after we did our first communion, our parents allowed
Speaker 2: us to drop out. So but meanwhile, totally like I
Speaker 2: wore the dress, I married Jesus, and then I was
Speaker 2: like see. But during that time, though, my dad indirectly
Speaker 2: did influence me because you know, he didn't have the
Speaker 2: opportunity for an education, but he was a really bright
Speaker 2: and smart person and always had Omni Magazine at home.
Speaker 2: He always subscribed to scientific magazines and always discussed science
Speaker 2: in any way that he could self educate, And that
Speaker 2: was a real influence for me, and to me, science
Speaker 2: always made more sense than the mythological stories I was
Speaker 2: being fed by the nuns. Sure, so yeah, I'm a
Speaker 2: strong believer of science. I am meating potatoes about it.
Speaker 2: I'm only interested in facts. So for that reason, I
Speaker 2: don't believe in ghosts. I don't believe in the afterlife.
Speaker 2: To me, all those things are a very self centered
Speaker 2: human kind of need to believe that there's something beyond themselves.
Speaker 2: I think it's very self serving because why can't humans
Speaker 2: be okay with Hey, it all ends here. Why do
Speaker 2: you have to believe that your life goes on. It's like, bitch,
Speaker 2: you're not that important, right, that's really my perspective on it.
Speaker 1: All. Okay, so you believe you're you're here for a sentence,
Speaker 1: and when the sentence is over, that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, See to me, the afterlife is very self centered.
Speaker 2: Those are you know, it's people. I know I'm repeating myself,
Speaker 2: but it's like, couldn't possibly end here? I know, magically
Speaker 2: I'm extended somewhere else, And he's like, no, why can't
Speaker 2: you just end it here? You're not that importused.
Speaker 1: This isn't a Disney Pixar.
Speaker 2: Movie, although I wish it was so anyway, So that's
Speaker 2: really my perspective. And frankly, I draw a lot of
Speaker 2: comfort from science and outer space studies and things like that.
Speaker 2: To me, that brings me comfort.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I mean, it's concrete evidence, and
Speaker 1: I'm with the ghost world.
Speaker 2: It's it's all based on faith, and faith means that
Speaker 2: you believe in something you know does not exist.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, And that's the funny thing though with you,
Speaker 1: is that you've had these experiences, yes, that you can't
Speaker 1: explain exactly. So what's about.
Speaker 2: I am one big old contradiction because I have had,
Speaker 2: for a lack of better terms or a better word,
Speaker 2: ghostly experiences. I have had paranormal experiences, things that I
Speaker 2: have seen with my own eyes, things that I've heard
Speaker 2: that I cannot explain. But I do not believe they
Speaker 2: are traditional after life experiences. I believe that, you know,
Speaker 2: there's some parallel universe string theory thing that happened that
Speaker 2: we cannot explain. I just don't have the vocabulary for it.
Speaker 2: But to me, it's got nothing to do with spirituality
Speaker 2: or religion whatever I've experienced that I cannot explain.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, And I remember a couple months ago we
Speaker 1: were with Jackie beat our friend, and I asked you.
Speaker 1: I asked Jackie, Jackie, have you ever had have you
Speaker 1: ever had a ghost experience? And you chimed in, yeah.
Speaker 1: One time. I stopped talking to her. So what was
Speaker 1: the first ghost expt varience that happened for you?
Speaker 2: The paranormal, the first paranormal inexplicable experience, either.
Speaker 1: Had what I would call paranormal what I don't know,
Speaker 1: would you what you would just consider unexplained.
Speaker 2: I would definitely call it a paranormal experience. I was
Speaker 2: a little kid. I was twelve years old and my
Speaker 2: house was on it like, for a lack of a
Speaker 2: better term, I don't know about haunted, because that just
Speaker 2: such a like puts such a Halloween spin on things
Speaker 2: that to me is like, hey, let's just call it Easter.
Speaker 2: You know, why not?
Speaker 1: It's fun. Do you celebrate holidays?
Speaker 2: I do. I love holidays, Okay, I do you know?
Speaker 2: Ironically my favorite holiday is next to fourth of July,
Speaker 2: but that was pre Trump was Christmas. I love Christmas.
Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's adorable, it's enchanting, it's magical.
Speaker 2: But I have but I'm a atheist. It's cute. I
Speaker 2: think it's cute.
Speaker 1: The whole industry of holidays is completely.
Speaker 2: I'm into it. I'm into the industry different. I like
Speaker 2: it for the industry purposes.
Speaker 1: So this house that you grew up and was this,
Speaker 1: this is in Los Angeles right.
Speaker 2: Now, Los Angeles, and just you know, in nineteen sixties
Speaker 2: ranch style home considered modern for the time, and this
Speaker 2: was in the eighties. Like, I better make sure I
Speaker 2: don't overly age myself. But I went great for seventy five. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I it's a long story, but I'll do my
Speaker 2: best to nut shell it. This odd experience I had
Speaker 2: one night. It was I remember we were on summer vacation.
Speaker 2: I shared a room with my sisters. Everybody went to
Speaker 2: bed and it was like, you know, when you're a
Speaker 2: little kid, you're on summer vacation and your mom lets
Speaker 2: you stay up watch TV. And I just forced myself
Speaker 2: to stay up because that was allowed, and.
Speaker 1: That wasn't Sometimes I feel like I still feel that way,
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I don't have to go to school
Speaker 1: in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wants TV all night if I want, and
Speaker 2: you're like struggling to stay up. So I was the
Speaker 2: last one up the whole family. Everybody was knocked out asleep,
Speaker 2: and so I finally I can't take it anymore, and
Speaker 2: I go to bed. And at the time, I shared
Speaker 2: the room with my two sisters, and I was on
Speaker 2: the top bunk and the eldest was on the bottom bunk,
Speaker 2: and then my middle sister was on another bed to
Speaker 2: the side, so the three beds in the room. And
Speaker 2: it's got to do with the story. So I remember
Speaker 2: just laying in bed. It's really creepy. I was laying
Speaker 2: in bed and I couldn't fall asleep because I'm still like, hey,
Speaker 2: it's summer vacation, guys. And our bedroom faced the street.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you can visualize this, So
Speaker 2: we had our windows bedroom windows facing the street. So
Speaker 2: every time a car would drive by at night, the
Speaker 2: lights of the vehicle would circle the room till the
Speaker 2: car passed by. So I was just laying in bed,
Speaker 2: struggling to stay awake, and I was following car lights
Speaker 2: wrap around the room, just following them. And then this
Speaker 2: one time, I'm following the light and I followed it
Speaker 2: to the foot of my bed and they're a woman
Speaker 2: at the end of my bed. Yeah. I was like
Speaker 2: what And it was like traditional ghost like I remember
Speaker 2: this transparent woman. I could see through her, but I
Speaker 2: could see vividly that it was a woman with long, straight, wavy,
Speaker 2: I mean like just kind of flowing hair, and it
Speaker 2: was like it was like a brown tone and she
Speaker 2: had a white, flowy gown. I mean it was like
Speaker 2: straight out of a movie. And the super terrifying part
Speaker 2: was that her hands were at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2: I was at the top bunk, So that means this
Speaker 2: bitch is levitating, you know, like floating. And I was
Speaker 2: just like and in my head, I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm just a kid. I'm just a kid.
Speaker 2: Leave me alone, Leave me alone. I was freaking out.
Speaker 2: I was paralyzed in fear. I couldn't get a word out.
Speaker 1: Wait, So how much of her. Could you see if
Speaker 1: you're on a top bunk, I could she like peeking up?
Speaker 2: No, peeking up? Ooh no. But you know, I look
Speaker 2: back and I vividly remember this experience, and I do
Speaker 2: you know remember that. I don't think she was trying
Speaker 2: to creep me out. She was just staring at me. Like,
Speaker 2: looking back now with an adult, like my vivid memory
Speaker 2: of her is like, maybe she was trying to communicate
Speaker 2: to me and not creep me out. She wasn't doing
Speaker 2: anything spooky other than hanging on to the foot of
Speaker 2: my bed and staring.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's creepy. It was in the light, and
Speaker 1: like if you're still alive and you're just.
Speaker 2: Staring at Yeah, it was like intensely staring at me.
Speaker 2: So I was paralyzed with fear, My blood ran cold,
Speaker 2: all that stuff people say I and I was trying
Speaker 2: to scream for my parents, but nothing would come out,
Speaker 2: and I was just laying there and it felt like,
Speaker 2: for all I know, it was two minutes, but it
Speaker 2: felt like a lifetime. It could have been thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: I do not know to this day how long that
Speaker 2: went on. And I just remember like thinking, okay, my
Speaker 2: voice isn't working. So I thought maybe if I telepathically
Speaker 2: communicate to this thing, because I was just so scared.
Speaker 2: So I just stared back at it, and I just
Speaker 2: kept saying, I'm a little kid, leave me alone. I'm
Speaker 2: a little kid, Leave me alone. I just was hoping
Speaker 2: it would pick up on my what I was saying.
Speaker 2: And then so more car lights started coming by, and
Speaker 2: then I remember this, you know, so another car drove by,
Speaker 2: and as that light wrapped around the room, then like
Speaker 2: kind of choreographed with that car light, this woman figure
Speaker 2: floated over to my sister's bed, and I was just
Speaker 2: like kept talking it like as much as I could
Speaker 2: in my head. I just kept saying, don't touch me.
Speaker 2: Whatever you do, don't touch me because I'll really freak out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then she hovered over my sister and started bending over,
Speaker 2: almost like the way a mom kisses a kid good night,
Speaker 2: uh huh, bending over my sister. And then it just
Speaker 2: faded into my sister and disappeared. What. Yeah, So I
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that it possessed my sister or it just
Speaker 2: kind of disappeared into that direction. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: my sister never acted bizarre or anything.
Speaker 1: But did your sisters. They were both asleep, they were
Speaker 1: dead asleep.
Speaker 2: Nobody heard me. And then I was still paralyzed with fear.
Speaker 2: It took about and really at this point, I started
Speaker 2: looking at the clock. We had this like little alarm clock,
Speaker 2: and I kept looking at it. In about thirty minutes
Speaker 2: passed by before I was able to get my voice back.
Speaker 2: And then I just started screaming, freaking out the whole family,
Speaker 2: like ran into the room, flipping out all the lights,
Speaker 2: and I told my mom and dad what I saw,
Speaker 2: what happened, And you know, they just thought I saw
Speaker 2: something scary on TV that I wouldn't admit, you know,
Speaker 2: they thought I was lying about watching cable when I
Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to, and so they thought I saw something
Speaker 2: that I wasn't supposed to, like some scary movie, right,
Speaker 2: And they just didn't believe me. They believed I was afraid,
Speaker 2: but they thought I was just seeing things and being
Speaker 2: like in a overly active imagination, you know.
Speaker 1: But was that something that had happened in the house before.
Speaker 2: No, I never It just came out of nowhere. But
Speaker 2: then later about like a few months later, after i'd
Speaker 2: been made to feel like a complete nut. My mom
Speaker 2: and my brother admitted to hearing some weird stuff in
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 1: Really was it?
Speaker 2: Like My mom admitted that at night she would hear
Speaker 2: somebody walking up and down the hallway and closing and
Speaker 2: opening the bathroom door when she knew everybody was dead asleep.
Speaker 2: And also and my brother also admitted finally to seeing
Speaker 2: some like a lady walking around and it sounded like
Speaker 2: what I saw, like a description of what I saw,
Speaker 2: this woman walking around the living room that he said
Speaker 2: he saw.
Speaker 1: She can walk and she can float.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess, I don't know. Jealous, I know, right,
Speaker 2: fears so. So so that was my first, probably an
Speaker 2: only kind of paranormal experience that absolutely felt very real
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrifying.
Speaker 2: It was creepy, creepy. And then I never had another
Speaker 2: experience again, not in that house, you know. So it
Speaker 2: was a divided family. There was six of us, and
Speaker 2: so three of us had a weird experience, and then
Speaker 2: the other three thought we were nuts.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing that I one of the many
Speaker 1: things I don't understand about ghosts is like do you
Speaker 1: just be ghostly when you feel like it? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like why aren't you always just ghosting around? Like
Speaker 1: why are sometimes consistent?
Speaker 2: And then like and it was awful to when you're
Speaker 2: a little kid and I'm like, I swear I'm not
Speaker 2: making this up. I swear I didn't watch anything scary like,
Speaker 2: and they just don't.
Speaker 1: Believe you because when you know, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what I saw and it was terrifying.
Speaker 1: So but going back to like your theories of belief,
Speaker 1: is that like what do you think that's.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it is a fact of science that
Speaker 2: we everything on this planet has energy. You know, we're
Speaker 2: energy based. So when our our you know, our bodies,
Speaker 2: which are a case of meat. When that case of meat,
Speaker 2: you know, the case of meat that houses the energy
Speaker 2: that you are sure you know when that dies, well
Speaker 2: everything has to go somewhere. I just figured, you know,
Speaker 2: we are a ball of energy inside and that doesn't
Speaker 2: just vanish. So I figured maybe these are remnants of energy,
Speaker 2: like an imprint that's left behind, and maybe that's why
Speaker 2: they don't consistently spook us, because maybe just I don't know,
Speaker 2: puffs of energy present themselves, you know, something like that,
Speaker 2: or maybe it's a it's an extraterrestrial visiting from a
Speaker 2: parallel universe. You know, to me, that makes more sense
Speaker 2: that they're UFO, not UFOs, but extraterrestrials, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm to Mexican to say that correctly, extra to arrest terrest,
Speaker 2: you're a little terrest terrestrial reals anyway. So I just
Speaker 2: feel like perhaps there's an explanation out there that we
Speaker 2: just have not tapped into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who knows if we ever will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe we never have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I also know that for your bachelorette party,
Speaker 1: when was that like two years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually about a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1: A year and a half ago, you did something so fun.
Speaker 1: You did a ghost hunt for your Is that right?
Speaker 1: A ghost direct?
Speaker 2: Correct? Well, I for you know, for my wedding, I
Speaker 2: hadn't really had no desire to have a bridal shower,
Speaker 2: bachelorette party, none of the frills. I'm just like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not interested in that. I being a
Speaker 2: professional entertainer, I think you get we get plenty of attention, sure,
Speaker 2: you know, and our jobs are very crowd heavy. So
Speaker 2: for my private nuptials, I actually wanted things as small
Speaker 2: and private as possible. But you know, my girlfriends, they're
Speaker 2: so wonderful and so loving, and they just wanted to
Speaker 2: celebrate it and more, you know, and they wanted me
Speaker 2: to have the experiences that they thought I would regret
Speaker 2: not having. So one of my dear girlfriends, Pleasant Gayman
Speaker 2: and La Icon, she's an incredible individual to performer, dancer,
Speaker 2: actor and her own right author. She convinced me to
Speaker 2: having a bachelorette party, and I just thought, well, who
Speaker 2: better than Pleasant Gayman who is also a professional paranormal investigator.
Speaker 2: And she's a longtime friend. We've been really good friends
Speaker 2: for over twenty years.
Speaker 1: We have to get her on here.
Speaker 2: Yes you do, Yes, you absolutely do. She's wonderful and
Speaker 2: so she's like she suggested a bachelorette party, and I
Speaker 2: just thought, well, why don't we do a paranormal investigation
Speaker 2: and you know, and she offered to host it. It's
Speaker 2: what she does anyway, and so I just thought it'd
Speaker 2: be really fun because although I don't believe the irony
Speaker 2: is that I love getting scared, to me, it's really fun.
Speaker 1: Sure, I love.
Speaker 2: Ghostly getting scared, and so I just thought it'd be
Speaker 2: fun and different and I'm not into traditional bachelorette parties.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big drinker. I don't like to party,
Speaker 2: so I thought this was perfect for me. Daytime ghost hunting.
Speaker 1: So where which that's my preference. If I am to
Speaker 1: go ghost hunting, Why does it have to be at night?
Speaker 1: It's always at night. We got that green night vision
Speaker 1: camera and everyone's eyes look all spooky. I don't like that.
Speaker 2: See to me, if you see something during the day
Speaker 2: that's more credible.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, so where did you guys go for your So.
Speaker 2: The whole thing was we needed to find a free location.
Speaker 1: Sure, so were there places you were shopping around?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And so pleasant my paranormal investigator, she suggested a theater.
Speaker 1: She said that they're always haunted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, theaters have a lot of haunted energy.
Speaker 2: So she said, try to find a theater and let's
Speaker 2: try to get it for free. Unless you know somebody
Speaker 2: that has a house that it's really haunted. I don't
Speaker 2: know anybody who owns a haunted house. So then theater
Speaker 2: was our best bet. And you know, being in the business,
Speaker 2: we know a lot of theaters, so we have relationships
Speaker 2: with theaters. So I went to the Cavern Club theater
Speaker 2: where you and I performed, and we have a very
Speaker 2: strong relationship with that venue, and they were more than
Speaker 2: happy to loan as the theater for my little bachelorette party.
Speaker 2: I invited fifteen of my closest girlfriends and it was
Speaker 2: really spooky and exciting, and we did an investigation in
Speaker 2: the theater and immediately immediately had experiences.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, I've worked there a billion times
Speaker 1: at this point, and I've never I don't know that
Speaker 1: my senses have gone off there. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know anywhere that's dark and I'm by myself. I'm immediately
Speaker 1: convinced it's haunted, But yeah, I don't know what came through,
Speaker 1: what happened.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that because I too. I mean I've
Speaker 2: been performing at this theater for at least fifteen years
Speaker 2: and never ever had a weird vibe, never felt anything.
Speaker 2: But also I don't think I'm tuned into that stuff
Speaker 2: because I'm not open to it generally. As much as
Speaker 2: I love getting spooked, it takes a lot to get
Speaker 2: me there.
Speaker 1: But there is such a just like fun vibe in
Speaker 1: that theater because yeah, I mean there's really only like comedy,
Speaker 1: campy kind of shows that happened there. And it's a
Speaker 1: very family owned restaurant that is above the theater, so
Speaker 1: it's definitely not a dark energy or was that ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's always such a loving vibe in there.
Speaker 2: That's why I've never picked up on anything spooky, which
Speaker 2: makes me think maybe it's an unworldly loving vibe. You know,
Speaker 2: it could be like Hippi Ghosts who came through. Well,
Speaker 2: this was not very loving. It was like a spooky
Speaker 2: thing for real. And I think it helped to have
Speaker 2: this paranormal team because they seem to know what they're doing,
Speaker 2: and they really conjured up some shit that I couldn't
Speaker 2: on my own without. They had the EVP. I forgot
Speaker 2: what it's called, that machine that picks up Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she had all her equipment, all like the stuff
Speaker 2: you see on TV, and including the Ouiji board for fun,
Speaker 2: and we did all kinds of funny stuff. It was
Speaker 2: like being in a slump at a slumber part. So
Speaker 2: she well pleasant, she probably would she would do a
Speaker 2: much better job explaining the process because I'm a complete
Speaker 2: novice and I was just in it for the fun,
Speaker 2: and so she just started asking questions, you know, Uh,
Speaker 2: to the air, like, if there's somebody here, make this
Speaker 2: light flash. And sure enough, immediately she had this little
Speaker 2: contraption with four different colored lights, so like a Simon
Speaker 2: says game from the eighties, and so she would say,
Speaker 2: if you're present, make the blue light go on twice,
Speaker 2: like very specific instructions, and immediately boom boom, like the
Speaker 2: lights were happening, and we're like, oh my god, oh
Speaker 2: my god. And there was an empty chair right next
Speaker 2: to my maid of honor, who was none other than
Speaker 2: Margaret Chow. She herself has had many paranormal experiences, should
Speaker 2: be a great guest. Anyway, she was sitting there wasn't
Speaker 2: anybody sitting next to her, Her seat was empty, and
Speaker 2: she's like, Margaret's like, oh my god, can you feel this?
Speaker 2: And her chair was like there was no ac directly
Speaker 2: above it, and it was super cold, like after we
Speaker 2: got that communication on the lights. So and it was
Speaker 2: right behind me. So I turned around and I hover
Speaker 2: my hand over the chair, and it was undeniable that
Speaker 2: the temperature over that chair vastly different from any other seat.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, she was sitting in it.
Speaker 2: The chair next next to her, which was empty. It
Speaker 2: it was like ice cold, but like right next to her,
Speaker 2: it's warm and no, like it was so obvious everybody
Speaker 2: could feel it, like a huge temperature difference. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what that's about. So so then so then
Speaker 2: we all gravitated to that chair, and pleasant brought that
Speaker 2: a little meter that picks up the EVPs and put
Speaker 2: it next to that chair and started asking it questions
Speaker 2: and he and he began responding, and so we learned
Speaker 2: that this presence, whatever it was, identified itself as the
Speaker 2: burglar who was killed in that basement in the sixties,
Speaker 2: and it is a it is a confirmed story by
Speaker 2: the owners of the restaurant slash theater. The story goes that,
Speaker 2: I guess in the sixties there were I guess it
Speaker 2: was already a restaurant. I'm not too clear on that.
Speaker 2: But also yeah, at one point that the same building
Speaker 2: with a church. So there's been two deaths in the
Speaker 2: basement which is now a theater where we were doing
Speaker 2: our paranormal investigation. I'm not clear on the timeline who
Speaker 2: died first, but the place used to be a church
Speaker 2: and there was h and they used to cook in
Speaker 2: the basement for the parishioners, and there was a I
Speaker 2: believe a fourteen year old. I know it was a
Speaker 2: teenage girl who died in a cooking fire.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: So but it was something like she died. I think
Speaker 2: she survived for a short period of time. And that's
Speaker 2: how the family who owned this church had to sell
Speaker 2: it to the current owners, who turned it into a
Speaker 2: restaurant theater. They had to unload the property to make
Speaker 2: money to medically treat this girl who eventually who ended
Speaker 2: up dying anyway. Oh and so there's that death related
Speaker 2: there to that girl. But also so getting back to
Speaker 2: the burglar, the story goes that this guy broke in
Speaker 2: to when I'm not sure if it was a restaurant
Speaker 2: yet I think it was. It was a restaurant. Actually,
Speaker 2: he broke in to hold up the place. He got
Speaker 2: into a scuffle with one of the restaurant employees, I
Speaker 2: think a busboy or a server or something, and there
Speaker 2: was a gun between them. So the other restaurant employees
Speaker 2: saw what was happening. They all jumped on the burglar
Speaker 2: and then the scuffle the gun went off and the
Speaker 2: burglar was shot, and that's where he died. Was it
Speaker 2: in the basement or I believe it was from what
Speaker 2: I'm from what I was told, and so he died
Speaker 2: trying to rob the place, but none of the employees died.
Speaker 2: And so he said, so the that entity from my
Speaker 2: bachelorette party identified himself as that burglar.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so but you know, pleasant's really fun. And
Speaker 2: she's like, would you like a margarita? And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you could clearly hear him say yes margarita.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, And where's that recording is it? Was it recorded?
Speaker 2: I don't think it was recorded. I don't It was
Speaker 2: just live fee from that meter thing.
Speaker 1: He sounds fun.
Speaker 2: He was fun. We were kind of scared. I wasn't
Speaker 2: too scared, just because it was daytime and it was
Speaker 2: a room full of my girlfriends. Uh huh, but there
Speaker 2: was some of the guests were like kind of terrified.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet so.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of weird communication like that.
Speaker 1: Well, and one thing to make very clear, because we
Speaker 1: love Casita del Campo, Yes, you will never get a
Speaker 1: creepy vibe in there, so please go check out the food,
Speaker 1: check out the shows that they have there. It is
Speaker 1: really a magical blessing blessing the word I use. It's
Speaker 1: a really amazing place that we have here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It is it's very lucky to have it.
Speaker 2: It's very special and it needs to continue to be supported.
Speaker 2: That place is nothing but love.
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I can't believe that. Well, speaking of EVPs,
Speaker 1: we do a little thing here on Ghosted by Ross
Speaker 1: Dressful as it is called EVP or ev plice. So
Speaker 1: you already know all about EVPs. You have your experiences
Speaker 1: with them. Yes, now you know what you heard. But
Speaker 1: sometimes paranormal investigators get creative with what they think they hear.
Speaker 2: Right, Sometimes it's a stretch and.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe they maybe it was a different
Speaker 1: experience in person, or I don't know. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to discredit anyone, but I just want you to guess
Speaker 1: what these EVPs are. So the first one we're going
Speaker 1: to do was posted by a YouTuber with an account
Speaker 1: called huff Paranormal. Lots of pretty great paranormal investigations on
Speaker 1: that channel. Should check it out, Oh I will. He
Speaker 1: went to different graves and at.
Speaker 2: This score, I'm already scared.
Speaker 1: I know, because that's I believe he's wrote in the
Speaker 1: description like I wasn't sure if there would be ghosts,
Speaker 1: just lingering around their graves or not. But he went
Speaker 1: to do it. He went to this grave of somebody
Speaker 1: named Wanda.
Speaker 2: Wanda.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he first you're gonna hear his voice saying
Speaker 1: I was here yesterday, and then it's gonna repeat three
Speaker 1: times what he heard, and I want you to guess, okay,
Speaker 1: and it could it could be an EVP or it
Speaker 1: could be an evy. Please I was here yesterday. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay. It repeated three times, so it whispered
Speaker 1: a very short sentence three times. Let's try to go on.
Speaker 2: Please yeah, I get up, Please yeah.
Speaker 1: I It was a you can kind of hear a
Speaker 1: whisper I do something. But he did think he wrote
Speaker 1: a what's the word? I'm looking for a subtitle on
Speaker 1: the on the video of what he thinks it's said.
Speaker 1: Was it a work bitch? B I will tell you
Speaker 1: the word bitch is in what he thought it sud b.
Speaker 1: Wanda's a bitch. See, I'm a bitch, I'm a lover,
Speaker 1: I'm a child, I'm a mother or d it's Britney.
Speaker 2: Bitch now it will It's one of those.
Speaker 1: It's one of those.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is a tough one. I I did
Speaker 2: pick up a faint whisper, but it's nothing I could
Speaker 2: make out at all. I don't even hear bitch. I
Speaker 2: don't hear anything. I know.
Speaker 1: Well it was the correct answer was b wanda's a bitch?
Speaker 2: Like? I hear the like, did the rhythm of it?
Speaker 1: Wander's up? Bitch?
Speaker 2: See like? Now I feel influenced because now that I
Speaker 2: know the word bitch is in there. Now I hear
Speaker 2: a bitch, right, But without that Franklin didn't. I just
Speaker 2: heard a whisper. That a gibberish. I just hear gibberish.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this one I think is a little bit
Speaker 1: more clear. This was posted by some YouTube account called
Speaker 1: Scary Mysteries, and this was a paranormal investigation that was
Speaker 1: done at the Athens Lunatic Asylum in Athens, Ohio, which
Speaker 1: actually opened up in nineteen seventy or sorry, eighteen seventy four,
Speaker 1: back when they would call it just a lunatic asylum,
Speaker 1: and it closed its doors in nineteen ninety three. And
Speaker 1: there's some real spooky stories about this place. There was
Speaker 1: a body of a woman that kind of wandered off,
Speaker 1: and she was naked, and she wandered off and she
Speaker 1: ended up dying and her body just decomposed in the floor.
Speaker 1: And they say that if you still go in there,
Speaker 1: there is like this fo of it, this like stain
Speaker 1: outline of a body.
Speaker 2: That's just I believe it. Can I interject really quick?
Speaker 2: My friend uh have a house where she bought a
Speaker 2: house where somebody killed himself and they found them in
Speaker 2: the living room and to this day you can see
Speaker 2: the trace of his head like they can't there's nothing
Speaker 2: you can do to wash it off, and so she
Speaker 2: just has a chair over it. It's spooky.
Speaker 1: Is it the same carpet?
Speaker 2: No, it's hardwood floor. Oh okay, And I guess when
Speaker 2: you die or whatever, your body like stains the floor.
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's the spear at maybe Okay, So this
Speaker 1: is the EVP that was taking at the Athens Athens
Speaker 1: Lunatic Asylum.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I definitely hear something. Again, I can't make
Speaker 2: out what there's I'll.
Speaker 1: Give you some options. Was it a would you help us? B?
Speaker 1: Will you yelp? Us seem enchiladas? Or d oh my god, hi,
Speaker 1: I'm a ghost day?
Speaker 2: Do you hear a ghost seas?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I think it's a US would you help us, I
Speaker 2: hear the help us. I don't like that. I wish
Speaker 2: I had my recording of the VP from my bachelorrete party.
Speaker 2: It is way clear, like it's like a guy talking
Speaker 2: to you. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too. Okay, well, we have a little
Speaker 1: bit of time to do. Uh, we're gonna read a story.
Speaker 1: This was submitted to me by a guy named Brayden.
Speaker 1: And uh, this story actually it's a story of something
Speaker 1: happening to a child when it's similar to your story,
Speaker 1: but it also warning and involves children.
Speaker 2: Ghosts, which aren't the worst, the creepiest. Yeah, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: someone's kid died, but there's nothing scarier than a dead kid.
Speaker 1: Okay. We were visiting our grandparents in Hawaii when I
Speaker 1: had my first run in with the dead. My Grandpa
Speaker 1: Hank and Grandma Pam had a lovely patch of land.
Speaker 1: And why Mia is that it's called Ai? Why Mia?
Speaker 2: Why Mia?
Speaker 1: My parents were putting me to bed one night when
Speaker 1: I began to hear a children's.
Speaker 2: Chorus, ooh, a chorus.
Speaker 1: Singing what I presumed to be some Jesus Camp type
Speaker 1: church song. Oddly enough, I found comfort in the lullaby
Speaker 1: like the lullaby like tones of the kids singing. There was,
Speaker 1: in fact, a church roughly fifty feet away from the property,
Speaker 1: so I assumed the sound carried. The singing grew louder
Speaker 1: and louder, and I couldn't help but poke my head
Speaker 1: out the window as Mama tucked me in. What are
Speaker 1: you looking at? She asked, Oh, they have there dialogue
Speaker 1: in the story. What are you looking at? She asked.
Speaker 1: I explained to her exactly what I saw. Half a
Speaker 1: dozen kids around my age playing in the tree fortress
Speaker 1: my brother Evan and I had claimed as our own.
Speaker 1: Being a typical kid, I felt such a longing to
Speaker 1: ditch bedtime and join them. I want to go play
Speaker 1: with them, I demanded of Mama. Who's sweetie? Who? She asked,
Speaker 1: thoroughly confused them, I pointed, matter of factly, Honey, nobody
Speaker 1: is out there, she stated. My face instantly felt flushed.
Speaker 1: Without missing a beat, I dove under my covers and
Speaker 1: instantly started crying. These kids were so real. I swore
Speaker 1: I could see the butter the butterfly clips in one
Speaker 1: of the curl's braids. Oh my god, a little bit
Speaker 1: of fashion, a little flair, a little clip that means
Speaker 1: she had a Delia magazine. You know this magazine and catalog. Okay,
Speaker 1: my sobbing caused a commotion, and Daddy and Evan came
Speaker 1: running from the living room to see what was the matter.
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop shouting, They're real, I saw them. My
Speaker 1: parents didn't know how to process the information that their
Speaker 1: child had seen people that simply weren't there. According to
Speaker 1: my grandpa, the very church down the street had a
Speaker 1: horrible fire a few years prior, and several children had
Speaker 1: been burnt alive. To Mama, there was no question that
Speaker 1: the very kids I heard singing in the trees were
Speaker 1: the same kids who suffered the fire.
Speaker 2: Oh, believed him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a chorus of children swing around.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Oh my god. Wait now I'm
Speaker 2: having all these memories. Can I share one quick one?
Speaker 2: Obviously I totally forgot about this, but uh, I was
Speaker 2: on tour with a variety choir. Yeah, it goes was
Speaker 2: a tour with Margaret Show. It was a variety shoulder.
Speaker 2: There was like a cast of about ten of us
Speaker 2: and we did I think like a two month run
Speaker 2: at the Zipper Theater in New York City, which is
Speaker 2: the sip we were the last show there and then
Speaker 2: the Zipper shut down. But the Zipper Theater, I apparently,
Speaker 2: was spooky, and everybody there who worked at the theater said,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's haunted, blah blah blah. And I always
Speaker 2: rolled my eyes of that shit, like everybody desperately wants
Speaker 2: their theater to be haunted, you know. And so sure enough,
Speaker 2: one night we're doing the show, you know, it's a grind,
Speaker 2: and there's this one part in the show where the
Speaker 2: entire cast is on stage and it's right before a
Speaker 2: solo number of mine. So everybody's on stage and I'm
Speaker 2: by myself in the dressing room waiting for my turn
Speaker 2: to go do my solo number. So I'm just standing
Speaker 2: there and all the lights are on, and out of
Speaker 2: nowhere I see, like I look at the floor and
Speaker 2: there's a giant shadow hovering over me, and like there's
Speaker 2: nothing above me, Like there's no reason why there she'd
Speaker 2: be a.
Speaker 1: Shadow, like in the form of a human.
Speaker 2: It was kind I wouldn't say it was a form
Speaker 2: of a human, but it had It wasn't like a
Speaker 2: box or it wasn't like a square or a circle.
Speaker 2: It had a funky shape like maybe you know, ahead
Speaker 2: and shoulders but kind of wobbling, you know, not like
Speaker 2: a perfect shape, and so I shipped my pants. That
Speaker 2: was it was really really scary and what a way
Speaker 2: to go on stage because I was just like, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a really bizarre enduring. It was really scary.
Speaker 1: I wonder why theaters are so haunted.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that, Like why isn't it restaurants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's it's just like la, It's like these
Speaker 1: stage people that need to be performing even in the afterlife.
Speaker 2: That's true, and I know.
Speaker 1: They want to be seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not the only cast member. Other people
Speaker 2: in the cast had like strange experiences, like just nobody
Speaker 2: wanted to be the one who was like the crazy
Speaker 2: for sure, but it was it was weird and it
Speaker 2: was a really old theater, but it also had like
Speaker 2: incredible creative energy and love and the same vibes we
Speaker 2: feel like Casita, but on a larger scale. And I
Speaker 2: mean usually.
Speaker 1: Theater ghosts aren't like bad energy.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I did work at a theater where they said that
Speaker 1: there were times when the ghosts would keep the house
Speaker 1: doors open so that the show couldn't like start and
Speaker 1: they would just like fuck with it? Whoa turn lights
Speaker 1: on during the show house lights and stuff?
Speaker 2: Really, did you ever witness it?
Speaker 1: No? Not that, But there's probably some ghosts that didn't
Speaker 1: get the part. They had to play a tree and
Speaker 1: then they died because a set piece fell on them,
Speaker 1: and now they're pissed.
Speaker 2: They're the Bob Fosse of the afterlife.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now I have one last question. Fine, no question.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a difficult one for you because you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily believe in this stuff. But let's say in
Speaker 1: another world where you believe fully in the afterlife, and
Speaker 1: in a world where you might possibly die before.
Speaker 2: Me, it's gonna happen, will you come back and visit me?
Speaker 2: I no, I cannot pretend to not be myself. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I can't. Once once my body dies, once
Speaker 2: my physical meat pack dies, I hope I don't have
Speaker 2: the ability to come back. I hope it's over. I am.
Speaker 2: My wish is that everything just goes dark and it's over.
Speaker 1: It's done, done.
Speaker 2: I just it's an off switch. I don't have that
Speaker 2: ego to believe that I must continue on somehow, like
Speaker 2: at any capacity. So it really brings me peace and
Speaker 2: comfort to believe that on dead it's over.
Speaker 1: Well, that brings me peace to know that once you're dad.
Speaker 2: Am I gonna compole your feet?
Speaker 1: Oh no no, but like I'll be like, Okay, she's
Speaker 1: not visiting me because she's good. Like she's where she
Speaker 1: needs to be and she doesn't need to go anywhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just see my future is fertilizer.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Really. But as much as I'd love to come visit you, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't want to have rub my bunk bed. I'd
Speaker 2: rather visit you in the living.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. Well, listen, Selena Luna, you are
Speaker 1: one of my favorite packs of meat, and I'm so
Speaker 1: happy you came down here. Tell people where they can
Speaker 1: find you.
Speaker 2: You can find me on Instagram and on Twitter, Selene Luna.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much for listening. As always, I
Speaker 1: want to hear your ghost stories. So here's how you
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Speaker 1: You gotta give me five stars first if you like
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Speaker 1: you have had an EVP experience, if you have captured
Speaker 1: the voice of a ghost, send it to me at
Speaker 1: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. Be sure to
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit of a backstory and what
Speaker 1: you think the ghost said, and me and my guests
Speaker 1: will try to figure out if that's true or not.
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Speaker 1: can find out some live appearances on there as well.
Speaker 1: I love you all so much. Thank you for listening,
Speaker 1: both living people and dead people. You mean the world
Speaker 1: to me. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me. Gay Bye.