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Speaker 1: calling Hunters new and all uncollective show with thanks or

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Speaker 1: fanks and opinions are subjective. You're listening to The Collecting. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of The Hunting collect You if

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Speaker 1: I am Ben O'Brien, and I think Phil hates it

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Speaker 1: when I yell into the microphone, it always startles me.

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Speaker 1: I never get used to it. Times. Well, probably not

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Speaker 1: Now that may be a Phil precursor to when we're

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Speaker 1: shooting shotguns? Are you gonna be You're gonna yeah, yell

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Speaker 1: in my ear every every time. Hey, Hey, everybody, that's

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Speaker 1: in range. Usually I listen, I've never done this before,

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Speaker 1: I do that. Okay, okay, well, welcome to Uh it's

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Speaker 1: not the pen ultimate that's the next episode. What's before

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Speaker 1: Penn Ultimate. Is there something? Look that up? Uh, somebody

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Speaker 1: google Anti pen and ultimate whatever the thing before the

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Speaker 1: pen ultimate, the prepen ultimate episode of The Hunting Collective.

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Speaker 1: We have this week, next week, and then the week

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Speaker 1: after and then we're done forever and ever. We're very

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Speaker 1: emotional about um, but we're gonna put on a good show.

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Speaker 1: We're not even to think about it, hobab we feel

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Speaker 1: that's that's really all this is all about. But today,

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Speaker 1: Bean's that we have our own, um uh accidental conservation

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Speaker 1: organization that we started here at t S. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have land Tawny On. He is the man the myth,

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Speaker 1: the legend, the public land defender. Uh the I think

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Speaker 1: the show over there at b h A Back Huntry

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Speaker 1: Hunters and English. He's been on the show many times.

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Speaker 1: We'll call him a regular guest. Good to have him

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Speaker 1: back on to talk all things Rendezvous, which you can

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Speaker 1: come see me at the old b h A Rendezvous

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Speaker 1: first week of June. First weekend in June. You can

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Speaker 1: gonna camp. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: socially distant camping good time. One of the coolest conservation

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Speaker 1: parties that I've ever heard of. Um. And speaking of that, Phil,

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Speaker 1: what do I look like? Haggard? Haggard? I feel you

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Speaker 1: Like I was telling you it was. I think we're

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Speaker 1: Vane Fawson last week. We got a couple of updates

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Speaker 1: for you, uh, namely that we have raised twenty eight thousand,

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Speaker 1: So thank you, big ground of plause. Phil clapped for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Turkeys are rich. Now, I think that turkeys actually just

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Speaker 1: that's what right now, there's eight hundred I think members

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Speaker 1: we've signed up through our Truck for Turkeys. Telephone content

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Speaker 1: this pretty kick ass campaign, this truck for Turkeys again.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and twenty one members have been signed up

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Speaker 1: because that's going down if we get one. Daddy's getting hammered. Yes,

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Speaker 1: new line of drinks called White Class Surge. They have

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Speaker 1: Mike is by far the most experienced turkey hunter and

424
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Speaker 1: our best callers, So we settled in with a couple

425
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Speaker 1: pretty quiet yelps, bam gobble back almost on top of him.

426
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Speaker 1: He waited a minute and or two and hit it again,

427
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: gobble even closer. He's coming in. Within four or five minutes,

428
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: he's there. We can't see him, but we can hear

429
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Speaker 1: him and feel him drumming. He comes over the ledge,

430
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Speaker 1: gobbling and getting his strut on. Adrenaline is pumping, and

431
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: later the mentee told me he couldn't believe how bad

432
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Speaker 1: he was shaking. As the tom came into view from

433
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Speaker 1: my vantage point and the mentees, we could see the

434
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Speaker 1: time and had four buddies, and they had four buddies

435
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Speaker 1: with him. I'm thinking, let them get closer to the decoy,

436
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: be patient, But Mike couldn't see the other toms. As

437
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: the main time turned back to look at his buddies,

438
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: Mike thought he was spooking and said shoot him. Bam.

439
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Shots fired. The other times take to the air and

440
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: are gone into the blink of an eye. But our

441
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: mentee laid down the big boy. It was awesome. He

442
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: was beyond excited, hiked down. We just recanted the story

443
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: and laughed and he is hooked. Damn right, Phil, It

444
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: feels real good. The THHD could bring people together and

445
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Speaker 1: they go turkey on a bunch of other stories. Um

446
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Speaker 1: T J. Norman and Western Oklahoma. Congratulations. I could go

447
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: on and on. John Stealth, you rode in with a

448
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: with a cool story. Everybody everybody, So it feels if

449
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: you want to feel a part of a community. You

450
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: see dozens hundreds of people sharing the same stories of

451
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: shaking when the turkey gets in there, or having to

452
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: play the same game to try to get and time

453
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Speaker 1: to come within range. Those be the ties that bind Philip,

454
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: and you soon will be telling your own story, will

455
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Speaker 1: you not? I shall, he shall? All right, everybody keep

456
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Speaker 1: hunting turkeys your y Oh you are dot nbt F

457
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Speaker 1: dot org slash first Light. If you want to get

458
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Speaker 1: a membership, there's awesome contest going on over there where

459
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: you can win a weather be a teen I on

460
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Speaker 1: X premium membership. You can win a first Light kits

461
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Speaker 1: styled by one Stephen Ronnella and maybe even Phil the

462
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: engineer will come and hang out to you guys while

463
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: you do it. You never know. I like to promise

464
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Speaker 1: thanks for Phil that that he's not aware of. Uh

465
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Speaker 1: so go do that. It really means a lot to us.

466
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Speaker 1: We're trying to get to a thousand as I said

467
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Speaker 1: that is very important. The Truck for Turks, thank you,

468
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Speaker 1: the First Light, thanks to n w TF weather be

469
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Speaker 1: everybody that's been involved. Um, the Truck for Turks will

470
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Speaker 1: be over this Saturday, but you can watch all that content,

471
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: as I said, over on First Lights, Instagram and YouTube channel.

472
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Speaker 1: And now Phil, we're moving on to our buddy land

473
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Speaker 1: Tawny Yeah, Lantani, Hello sir, Good afternoon, Ben O'Brien. What's

474
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: going on, my friend? I just enjoying another day in

475
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Speaker 1: Paradise and Zula, Montana. It is really paradise. Said that.

476
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: We were just talking about how there's nothing really for

477
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Speaker 1: anybody in Montana. Uh, just wheat, wheat farmers, wheat and

478
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Speaker 1: uh and some mining. I think we were saying, yeah,

479
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mining, a lot of wheat. Uh. Beyond that,

480
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: I don't know what there is, Rachel, sid nothing to do.

481
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: Didn't you kind of do that for a job. Prior

482
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Speaker 1: to your new gig. You were kind of working on

483
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: this whole outdoor recreation thing in Montana, weren't you. Yeah,

484
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: outdoor recreation economy. That's the last time you and I

485
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: had a chance to visit. Yeah, the last time you

486
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: were here. I would say you. Both of you guys

487
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: are recurring guests. It only takes two times to get

488
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: you into the recurring guests a lot. I have reached

489
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: new status. You really have? You really have, um Lantani.

490
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: First of all, you were coming on last year around

491
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Speaker 1: this time. Are all of our lives are thrown into turmoil,

492
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: and we were feverishly trying to figure out what the

493
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: hell to do for b h A rendezvous really the

494
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: entire organization as a whole, but particularly the big event

495
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: that is rendezvous. You want to take us back in

496
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Speaker 1: time because I do want to kind of talk about

497
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Speaker 1: how COVID impacted the conservation world and impact of what

498
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Speaker 1: we do and how we're coming out of it. Um,

499
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Speaker 1: But take us back to that moment in time man

500
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: last year around the end of April. Remember what you

501
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: were thinking doing, whether you were wearing pants. I'm not

502
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: wearing pants now, so I don't know if much has

503
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: changed since last year, but I think it was like

504
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: an old ship moment, right, Like here's this gigantic party

505
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: that we throw one once a year. It's like the

506
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: rendezvous true sense of the word, like bringing people together,

507
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: stoking the fire, swapping stories, making a little bit of money,

508
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: Like all of a sudden, we realized, oh, we can't

509
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: do that, and and so we pivoted two virtual and Ben,

510
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I gotta say thank you for the help that you

511
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: provided and just those conversations that we had leading up

512
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Speaker 1: to that, and then also just your engagement throughout our

513
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: virtual rendezvous that we had. But we had a rad time. Man,

514
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: it was fun and uh and while we couldn't be

515
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: there in person, I think we pulled off a pretty

516
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: good event, um, and we learned a ton And so

517
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: you know that the rendezvous last year I think set

518
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: us up for the rest of kind of the quote

519
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: unquote year of COVID and that year in COVID UM

520
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: was learning how to work virtually and and so Rondevoo

521
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: was the first shot at that. And you know, um,

522
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: we probably will not We probably we were down fift

523
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: as far as revenue goes, but we also were able

524
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: to engage way more people across the country. One of

525
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Speaker 1: the great things that I heard after Rendezvous last year

526
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: from multiple people was, Man, I've never been able to

527
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: attend rendezvous, either like financially it didn't work out for

528
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: me or the timing didn't work out. But since you

529
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: guys did something virtually. I was able to participate and

530
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: oh my goodness that I have so much fun. And

531
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: so you know, when we should have been doing virtual

532
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: before this to be totally honest, like so we can

533
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: include more people. But what we learned last year is that,

534
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, virtual is a way to engage everybody. So um, yeah,

535
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: last year it was common oce ship moment that I

536
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: think everybody was experiencing. But we learned a lot from

537
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: it and are better for it. So we came out

538
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: of COVID and I did have fun land playing in

539
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: that with you guys and being a part of that.

540
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: I you know obviously been a part of them before,

541
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: but never that intimately. And as as we were talking

542
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: about when we were going through that, you know, you

543
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: figured you're gonna really learn some things that you wouldn't

544
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: have learned and less forced into that situation. You know,

545
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: none of us thought we were going to be stuck

546
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: where we were, and uh yet here there we were

547
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: at that time. And can you give us a sense

548
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: of kind of the ebbs and flows in the conservation

549
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: space from your perspective, you know, as the pandemic hit

550
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: and that as now we seem to kind of be

551
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: coming out of it. We can gather again in your opinion,

552
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: where are we and where did we start? And can't

553
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: give everybody, you know, the lay of the land, if

554
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: you will, the lay of the land from land that's right. Um.

555
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: You know, I think that you know, we weren't the

556
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: only people that were affected by the lack of opportunities

557
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: to be able to be in person events and and

558
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: so you know that that hurt the entire community. I

559
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: would say that you know, two percent for conservation in particular,

560
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: I think made people aware of that. And so you know,

561
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: I think there was you know, we end of the

562
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: year last year with one of our better years at

563
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: the end of the year giving just because you know,

564
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: people I knew that we weren't having these events and

565
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: that we were we were down rendezvous, but like overall

566
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: for the year, and so you know, that wasn't a

567
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: hard story for people to learn because it was happening

568
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: to everybody. Um. I think that you know another thing

569
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: that we learned besides just do virtual was that elected

570
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: officials love virtual events. They don't have to like travel somewhere,

571
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: They can go spend half an hour and then you know,

572
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: be with thirty people or fifty people or a thousand

573
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: people that are their constituents. And so we learned that

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Speaker 1: elected officials love virtual opportunities. Um, So I think that's

575
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: something that not only we've learned, but hopefully some of

576
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: our counterparts, you know, other organizations. Where we are now

577
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: and we're sitting on a powder keg man, like, I mean,

578
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: people are ready to get together, and you know, as

579
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, every single state is kind of different, every

580
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: single community is different on how we're getting back together

581
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: where we can get together. We're already having events and

582
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: we're starting to stack up, like our our chapter coordinators

583
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: right now are super nervous play to see the calendar

584
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: starting to fill up with events that they need to

585
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: be a part of. So I think we're sitting on

586
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: a powder keg, and I think Rendezvous, like the Rendezvous,

587
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough to capture the energy from last year,

588
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, because we're all virtual. I think there was

589
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: still some of that energy, but in person, it's like,

590
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to describe, but it is electric.

591
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: And so I am looking forward to that. I think

592
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: the people that are coming and they're looking forward to that.

593
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: So it's actually gonna be exciting, and then people are

594
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna go home, and those little little tentacles of excitement

595
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: are gonna go home. And I think we're gonna have

596
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: even more events and really get back online, which is

597
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. Yeah. I feel like

598
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the Roaring twenty ones man like every time. Like I

599
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: was at the grocery store the other day and I

600
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: just people were just bopping around feeling like I felt

601
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: like the nervousness was a little bit had had subsided

602
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: at least for for a little bit. The weather starting

603
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: to get nice, at least it's trying to here in Monentucky.

604
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: But Rachel, you have you have one of the best

605
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Speaker 1: titles ever you were, you're now employed to be a jay,

606
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: which we are extremely and I can't tell you how

607
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: excited we are. I don't think there's a word for it.

608
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Twitter painted is the only thing I can think of. Um,

609
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: what's your title now? And you know what you can

610
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: leave in a mystery of how it came to be

611
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: or you could explain, but the title itself. Oh yeah,

612
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: I I feel like I'm running a track record of

613
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: epic U titles through my career. To be completely honest, UM,

614
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: I live a good life and do a lot of

615
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: amazing things. But yes, so I am the Director of

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00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: Innovative Alliances here at b h A. UM. I am

617
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: heading up a department I am affectionately calling the Energy

618
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: Development Team and Department UM. And we are doing fundraising,

619
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: we're doing business developments, and it's about growing support and

620
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: resources for our members to get all the amazing work

621
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Speaker 1: UM that they do done and amplify it and ramp

622
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: it up. So yeah, it's I, you know, have worked

623
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Speaker 1: with b h A for so many eight years. It's

624
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: been awesome. You know. I started working with h A

625
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: when I was at Kimber and then I was actually

626
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: on the national board UM. Stepped away from that worked

627
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: in the Governor's office. UM. And I just am fairly

628
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: familiar with b h as an organization on the national

629
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: level and the state level and all of the members

630
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Speaker 1: and you know, intimately know the kind of work and

631
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: the kind of it is done by our membership, the

632
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: energy UM. I routinely tell everybody, if for one moment

633
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: you think that you are cool or a badass in

634
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: any sense, just go hang out with some very humble

635
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: b h A members and you will feel like a

636
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: pile because they are remarkable people and doing remarkable things

637
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: every day and puts me to shame. It makes me

638
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: want to work harder. But um just I don't know.

639
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: We just do things differently this organization. We we work differently,

640
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: we get done things done differently. So when you're looking

641
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: at you know, a business development team, you know, do

642
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: we want to say it in a traditional way? Well know,

643
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: because we don't do things traditional. So that's where my

644
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: title came from. Yeah, I think everybody on this chat here,

645
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: we've all kind of spent a lot of time with

646
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: b h A. It's been particularly big part of my

647
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: professional and personal life for the last I don't know,

648
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: five years, probably land. Where are you at year wise?

649
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: How long have you been? In my head? Eight years?

650
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: This made dude, which is I can't believe. It's one

651
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: of those things. It's like it's like my kids getting older.

652
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Like everybody tells he was going to go faster than

653
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: you think. It is, like eight years seems like just

654
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: like a blink of the eye. To be totally honest,

655
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: And I was actually preparing for this today, searched on

656
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: your name and an email came up from Ben Long

657
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: and it was like Ben O'Brien, question mark North American Board,

658
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: and so it's like they're like, it's just it's it's

659
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: fun to be part of a family. Man. Was that

660
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: question like why did you do that? Or after? This

661
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: was after you were on the board and he was

662
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? No? No, no, he was.

663
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: He was one of our one of our stalwarts, I

664
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: would say, and Ben Long recognized who you were and

665
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: the opportunity to provide value to a growing organization, and

666
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: he thought you're a good idea and we haven't looked

667
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: back since. Well I did. Yeah, I did not know

668
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: that until just now, Thank you, Ben Long. Ben Long

669
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: has intermittently throughout my career sent good advice and plaudits

670
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: and things as if you're going along. Uh an exceptional

671
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: individual there, But yeah, I mean I, like I said,

672
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in the organization, and

673
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: as Rachel you mentioned, you start to pick up on,

674
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, exceptional individuals that have passion for the things

675
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that we have passion for um and then it's hard

676
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: to describe. And I will say the reason why I

677
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on there's there's many, but one

678
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: of the things that marks my yearly kind of transformation

679
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: is I get about every January February gets super stressed

680
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: out about life. I'm trying to reset life right, You're

681
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: trying to re get your priorities. There's in very ably

682
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 1: new challenges and I start to think, man, I haven't

683
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: done enough for b h A. I haven't been involved enough,

684
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: I haven't felt that energy in a while. I haven't

685
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: been able to kind of siphon it into my life.

686
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: And then here comes Rendezvous to save me every single year.

687
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: That's why last year was a bit of a tough one.

688
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: But I'm always I think I probably yearly just called

689
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: Land and say, hey, man, I think I'm not doing enough.

690
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel connected enough. And then the

691
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: rendezvow comes. It saves me, and I'm like, oh, I

692
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: am energized. I feel like I've been with my people

693
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: enough to go forward into good work. So Land, you

694
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: want to kind of give people your best description of,

695
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: at least in our world, the importance of the Rendezvous itself. Ben,

696
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that it fills your bucket, because

697
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: it fills mine too, And I think it fills everybody

698
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: that comes to ronde bow his bucket. What I mean

699
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: by that is that like, yeah, we all go through

700
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: these cycles, right, like you get through the winner, and

701
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: now we're in the spring, and this year in particular,

702
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: you know them, I'm anticipating my my aspen leaves like sprouting,

703
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: like I'm going out every single day. I'm looking at

704
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: those buds right now because I'm just so excited about it.

705
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, I had northern flickers and uh some um

706
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: uh growth speaks this morning on my feeder, and so

707
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: like spring is like this rejuvenation, right, And that's that's

708
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: really what I think Rendezvous would be, like a rejuvenation

709
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: and fill in the bucket like top number one. But

710
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: as I talked about earlier too, is it's just this

711
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: opportunity to come together and really have a good time

712
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: with all these people coming from across the country. So

713
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: when Rachel describes, you know, all these folks that she

714
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: gets to meet that a humbler. I mean I'm humbled

715
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: every single day, like I don't know, like you know,

716
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: like I'm very lucky one to know these people, but

717
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: also to learn from them. And this is a great

718
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: chance to like you know, get get around, you know,

719
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: a group of folks that no one that you can

720
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: learn from, but they're really fun to be around too,

721
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: so it's it fills your bucket. It's absolutely like fun

722
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: and you learn something. So there's not many things in

723
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: my life that check all three of those things. Uh specifically,

724
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that we get together and

725
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: the training part is really like learning some skills. Like

726
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: I know hank Shaw this year is going to be

727
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: teaching us how to cook fish in the back country

728
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: with like corn huss And when he told me about this,

729
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I was like, corn hust, dude, lightweight and then you

730
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: can throw it in the fire, like I always feel

731
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: weird about that tim foil, right, and that tinmfoil you

732
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: got scrunch up if you bring some with you and

733
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: then stuff in your bag somewhere, it still smells like food.

734
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 1: So if you're around grizzly bears, like what are you doing?

735
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, hank Shaw is gonna be teaching some stuff.

736
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna break down a whole bison this year. Now

737
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: I could learn that time about I could learn feeling.

738
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: We need to set the stage here though. Hold on, So,

739
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: first of all, we're coming out of COVID's we're losing

740
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: your ever loving minds because I'm so excit. I did

741
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to hopefully hug the people who will hug me back.

742
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: But this year Rendezvous is going old school. So before

743
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: we talk about breaking down a bison, because I'm sure

744
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: everbody's like they're going to dry in the buffalo into

745
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: a convention center, no we're not. We're not doing that. Um,

746
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: we could, and that is something we would do, but um,

747
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: this year, it's in Missoula, Antiana, and it is a

748
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: traditional camp out. We literally have this giant place called

749
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: Fort Missoula. It's this huge outer venue. We have two

750
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: different campgrounds and all of the b h A events

751
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: and festivities are going to be held outside. So we're

752
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: creating as safe of a space as possible as we're

753
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: slowly crawling our ways out of this pandemic, and we

754
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: can touch on it more. We're doing it all live

755
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: virtually as well, so people that are there obviously our

756
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: hands on literally cutting up a whole buffalo, but everybody

757
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: can join via virtual and observe everything, man on the

758
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: street style, interactive questions, all that good stuff. So now

759
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: we can go back to land talking about literally dismantling

760
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: an entire buffalo for everyone, and it's going to be

761
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: outside at Fort Missoula. Okay, now I'll go back to

762
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: the buffalo. Rachel, thank you for setting the stage. Ben O'Brien,

763
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: you already know this, but this is why I love

764
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: having around the team. It's just like whoa, whoa, whoa.

765
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Then like, before you do that, let me talk about this, right, um,

766
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: So the bison, Bison, We're gonna have a full bison,

767
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: and we're gonna, like, I think I could learn something

768
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: about butchering, right, Like, any time you're around somebody really

769
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: knows what they're doing, you can learn something. But then

770
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: there's this thing called a bison, which is just daunting

771
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: in general, and so like the size of that, and

772
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: so we're gonna we're gonna break that animal down. I

773
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have actually to bison, and then the

774
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: next day we're actually gonna cook it. And so not

775
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: only we're gonna teach you how to do this, but

776
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: we're actually gonna feed you with the bison that you

777
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: learned from as well. But you know, the idea is

778
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: really you're gonna learn a ton, we're gonna have a

779
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: good time. So will have you know, the storytelling Night,

780
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: which is like I think like one of the best

781
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: things that we do is that everybody loves stories, but

782
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: these stories are well uh procured. I would say, the

783
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: people we have stelling story telling stories. Janice, you know

784
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: tell Us has said yes. Um, I've heard from you

785
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: that Clay said yes. Is that correct, Clay. I don't

786
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: know if Clay might be tv D, but we can

787
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: like right now, if we just can say it right now,

788
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: if we say it right now, he has to write

789
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: Clay Niccole will be there no matter what happens. Amazing.

790
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: We have these amazing storytellers. Um. And then I would say,

791
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: like some other good time and things that we're gonna

792
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: do is that we have a trivia night, which you

793
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: know everybody can learn something from trivia. That will be fun.

794
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: We will have a whiskey and wine events. We have

795
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: our own whiskey now which is midnight for us, done

796
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: through Spotted Bear Spirits. It's absolutely delicious. And then the

797
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: back label is written by my favorite dude in the world,

798
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: Jim pozwits Um. And then we have a wine from

799
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: Passa Laqua Wine that has our paw on the front. Um.

800
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: It says zim Findale. And I don't know about you,

801
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: Rachel or Ben. I'm not a real big wine drinker,

802
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: but when I hear it Zippindale, I think like pink

803
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: fruity stuff. This is like a calve like well, that

804
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: shows my ineptitude to be able to describe this, but

805
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like a red wine that is bomb And so

806
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: that's another fun thing what we're doing. I am a drinker,

807
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I am, I'm a drinker of all of it, a

808
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: lot of it. And this wine is it is, it's

809
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: it is so amazing. It's a really it's an amazing

810
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: thing to do. So that's gonna be rad And then

811
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: we're also gonna have we have something we do in

812
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: this summer called Hike the Hunt. And Hike the Hunt

813
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: is a way for us to get ready, you know,

814
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: for the the impending fall. Especially for fat guys like me,

815
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: need a time where it actually people tell me what

816
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: to do. And I have a program at Rendezvous. We're

817
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna have the opportunity to do a hike the Hunt.

818
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna go along the Bitterroot River, come up this hill,

819
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: will be finishing as Rachel described, right in front of

820
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: where everybody is camping, So we're all gonna be together,

821
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: which I think is probably gonna be the most fun

822
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: and the least structured. It's just everybody's gonna be together

823
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: the entire time, um and camping like they used to

824
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: do in the old Rennevos. You know, they didn't have

825
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: hotels and bars to go to late at night. They

826
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: hung out together and swap stories around the campfire let

827
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: at night. And that's exactly what we're gonna do this year. Yeah,

828
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: I told Land it's gonna feel like kind of you know,

829
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: you see an old Civil war movies where there's different

830
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: campfires and there's people gathered around, and there's kind of

831
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: like different places you can visit. I have very much,

832
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: uh picturing the way this is gonna be. I'm sure

833
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I've got a way off in my head, but listen,

834
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: I always say, far off from what's in your head.

835
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: Feeling a random just saw they sing along is gonna

836
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: break out like I just I just really feel like

837
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be like a warm like the

838
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: warm place we all needed, uh six or eight months

839
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: ago when we were in the cold, dark apartments in

840
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: the house is where we couldn't leave so I do.

841
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: I I do just think as we as we gin

842
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: to this. I always try to define this for people,

843
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: but I say, like, these are my people. And I

844
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: hate to say it like that almost these days, but

845
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: it's the feeling that I get. It's the best that

846
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: way I can describe it. And again, every time I

847
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: return and gather with these people, um, you're only left

848
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: with kind of an amazement of of of how this,

849
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: how they've come together, and how they come with different

850
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: perspectives that probably different ideologies, many different ideologies to enjoy

851
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: things like, uh, great field of table dinners, whiskey. Maybe

852
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: he's infidel. I don't, I've never I'm not a white.

853
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: Is it a red sin? I don't know, like that

854
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: it's the redsin? Okay? I may I suggest that everyone

855
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: gets a bison next year. Two everybody, you pay a

856
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and you get your own bison, and you

857
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: get to name it, and you get to watch it

858
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: the uh you know, some sort of webcam and then

859
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: eventually butcher it and eat it at the rondevow. Interesting

860
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: idea we will talk, might be able to arrange for this,

861
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that Tie Tie his new business model.

862
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure I would get in trouble for that. That's

863
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: just an idea of just throwing it out there. I

864
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: mean you talk about food though, like we've talked about bison, right,

865
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: so like that's gonna be amazing. We're gonna get to

866
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: watch this thing, you know, get butchered and all the

867
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, different ways you can use bison, ways you

868
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: can use you know, tongue, the ways you can use

869
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: the high like all the different ways the Native Americans

870
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: you know who who no way better than anything. We

871
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: would ever figure out how to break it bison down.

872
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: We will learn that. But food is gonna be a

873
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: theme throughout the whole thing too. And so you mentioned

874
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: the field of table dinner, you know, on the field

875
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: the table dinner will happen on Thursday night. Uh. Ryan

876
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: Busty describes this as like the best dinner on the planet,

877
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: which I love when he says that, because it absolutely is.

878
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: And we'll have I think it's six chefs, you know,

879
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: cook the most amazing wild game that you've ever had,

880
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: and in little teeny portions, so you get to try

881
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: basically all sorts of different things. Um, and I'm excited

882
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: about that of our Wild Game Cookoff Arizona is a

883
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: two time defending champion. Last year, I think they are

884
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: two years ago when we actually had it together, they

885
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: won with poach sheet balls and so these were desert

886
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: bighorn sheet balls that they poached, and that's what was

887
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: the winning combination. That that was the cooking technique they used.

888
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: The yes, yes, but it was desert bighorn and the

889
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: yes not the killing. The killing was legal, the poaching,

890
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: legal killing of big big that could have been taken

891
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: totally out of context, and that that we need. That

892
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: that's going to be the title of my autobiography, Posch

893
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: Poach Balls. UM. But I would say that at the

894
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: same time, Barrisina season is going on in Montana and UH,

895
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: and you'll be able to fish as well. And so

896
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: in this area where people can camp, we'll also have

897
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: some camp sticks or cookstations set up and so the

898
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: already just to share food and hang out with folks

899
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: the way we should be. UH is going to be

900
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: happening all over the place. So food is going to

901
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: be throughout the weekend in particular. Yeah, and a lot

902
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: of our you know, most of our corporate partners will

903
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: be there, like Trigger is their camp chef is they're

904
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: they're the ones in the wild Game Village that are

905
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: helping cook all of this stuff up. All of those

906
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: amazing chefs that we're having at the field to table,

907
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: they're the ones that are going to be out there

908
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: like doing these kicking demonstrations and showing folks different techniques. Um.

909
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of really great stuff as it

910
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: pertains to food. We have a hunting in a fishing

911
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: village where there's a lot of skills we've got, you know,

912
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: a couple of folks that are coming and they're going

913
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: to do brain tanning brain tanning demonstrations just as an example.

914
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: I think you Honese is going to do some bugling

915
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: and alcoholing techniques, um, you know, all kinds of stuff

916
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: like that. So um, but more than any and of

917
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: course a beer tan will open at noon and then

918
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: conservation Carnival where you get to humiliate your friends, um

919
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: with different games, um to raise money for all the

920
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: good work everyone does. So yeah, it'll be a good

921
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: time there. I mean, it sounds like the best time.

922
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: We're not gonna lie. I mean, this is the pitch.

923
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: This is a pitch too for people to come join us,

924
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: but man, this is this can't I understand not everybody

925
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: can make it to Missoula for this, but the virtual

926
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: part is really what sets this up for me to

927
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: be something for everybody. You know, if you if you

928
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: can't be there with us, but you want to catch

929
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: some of these vibes you guys are talking about, or

930
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: get some of this knowledge and and be a part

931
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: of it. You really you still can. And Rachel, you

932
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: want to give people kind of the rundown on if

933
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: they want to come to Moszola, what they do if

934
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: they want to jump in virtually? What is there one

935
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: web page? Like how do you direct people to get

936
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: to where they need to go? Yeah, super easy. Just

937
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: go to backcoun of Hunds and Anglers or website. Along

938
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: the top bar with all of your different options, you're

939
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: going to see Rendezvous twenty one. You click on that,

940
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: there's a brief description, there's a video there that you

941
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: can want, and then um, there's different choices like you

942
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: can look at the schedule and agenda. You can look

943
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: at the different lodging options. If you don't want to camp,

944
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: of course there's hotels um, so you can just look

945
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: through there. But on that main page. You can actually

946
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: purchase your tickets, so you can purchase in person tickets,

947
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: you can purchase your camping, their tickets to our special

948
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: events UM and then also UM tickets virtual UM as well.

949
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: So that's just a really easy spot where you can

950
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: go UM. There's a ton of information there UM if

951
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: you just click around, but super easy. One thing I

952
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: would say is, that's three days like hanging out with

953
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: some of the greatest people you've ever hung out with.

954
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, Ben, You've already talked

955
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: about it. But I walk away and be like, I

956
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: can't believe there's that many people think the way I do,

957
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: and think the way I do about conservation, think the

958
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: way I do about the way I like to hunt.

959
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: The opportunity to hang out with folks and learn. And

960
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: one of the greatest things that happens at these rendezvous

961
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: is people meet people from all across the country. And

962
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: so when they want to go gator hunt down Louisiana,

963
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: or they want to go chase grouse in Maine, or

964
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: they want to go up to Canada once the borders

965
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: open again, they have a built in network of people

966
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: that they hung out around a campfire that know them

967
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: and that they will take the shirt off their back.

968
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: They have them hunting their home state or fishing their

969
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: home states. So that's one of the I think one

970
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: of the coolest things is just the people that are

971
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: gonna be there in their relationships that you build. Yeah, yeah,

972
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people that try to

973
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: define b h A right from from within and without right.

974
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: You get where there's a lot of exercises you do

975
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: as an organization to define who you are and to

976
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: find your future, and there's a lot of people on

977
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: the outside that are trying to define you. But there's

978
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: an organization that's defined by its people. You know, if

979
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: you want to know what it's about, just just step

980
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: through the door and meet a few people and you'll

981
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: quickly know exactly what the organization is about and exactly

982
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: its values and as what you're saying to people, you

983
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: catch people from Arizona and New England coming together and

984
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: immediately having a rapport. I've seen that a bunch of

985
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: different times, in a bunch of different ways at at

986
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: these events, and like I said, this is a no

987
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: I could talk forever about it just because it means

988
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: so much to me and so much to everybody else

989
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: that takes part in it on a yearly basis. So

990
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: I'm dude, I need a shot of b h A,

991
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: I need some sunshine. Come on, Montana, please give us

992
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: some sunshine. And uh, I spent all turkey tricky season

993
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: in the snow thus far in the rain. Uh yeah,

994
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: some camp, but I'm definitely in a camp. I'm gonna

995
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: pop up a two person expedition tent and uh the

996
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: camp chef stove and uh a comfortable chair and just

997
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: hang out. What if we if we come by this

998
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: little setup, you got what are you gonna be cooking? Well?

999
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Or definitely some wild turkey I'm gonna have. Probably I

1000
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: don't want to commit to endless wild turkey nuggets there

1001
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: for any anybody that comes to approach me, but at

1002
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: certain times of the day there will be nuggets to

1003
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: be had. When we put our noses up in the

1004
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: air and we smell that, there's no gets wafting through

1005
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: the air, nowhere to go. Yeah, that's that. You can

1006
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: just smell the sizzling panko bread crumbs from any direction

1007
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: if you get down wind, especially. Um, I definitely have

1008
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: probays for some like prong horn fajitas and stuff. I'm

1009
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: that that's a a staple with the old camp chef,

1010
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: single burner. What else, I don't know. That's a good question.

1011
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Buy some poach balls now that you know you mentioned it.

1012
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: Cooking technique by the way, Yeah, that's the cooking technique,

1013
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: not the way that the animal is acquired. Um so yeah,

1014
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what I'm looking for. To Lantani, what's

1015
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: your setup gonna be, man, I'm gonna have my seek

1016
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: outside and so just in case if it is raining,

1017
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: by the way, like bring your gear right, like, bring

1018
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: your gear because it could be raining. We'll hope for

1019
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: some rain, but we're all, you know, outdoors folks, will

1020
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: bring your gear above my seak outside tent. And then uh,

1021
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: man I we're gonna go paddlefish in the weekend before.

1022
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: So if we are so lucky, there may be some

1023
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: fresh paddlefish that I'll be cooking, uh like right there

1024
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: at the old rendezvous a camp. Oh. I don't know

1025
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: what anything about paddlefish or how to get them, but

1026
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get them, sons of bitches. I'll tell you

1027
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: that right now. I'm so excited. This just came in

1028
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: the mail. This is like my paddlefish, my first ever

1029
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: paddlefish tag, and uh, I'm very excited about this. So

1030
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: that's I got my first last year, and I'll never

1031
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: go back. And I will say the meat is a

1032
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: lot like alligator, a lot like alligator. I had a

1033
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: neighbor here. He gave me some paddlefish caviar uh last

1034
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: year and yeah, salty, but he also gave me a

1035
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: few steaks man a few filets, and my gosh, is

1036
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: a good So when I learned I draw drew that

1037
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: this year, and I didn't know the tag came as

1038
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: it did until just now. So beating in Montana, New

1039
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: be I feel like this is a bit of a

1040
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: write of passage to go out and snag a pattlefish

1041
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely good luck. I'm ready to go. Hopefully

1042
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: by then i'll have a I'll be just coming. I'll

1043
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: be on the back end of a Wyoming bear hunt

1044
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: with our friends at Hushing and Weatherby, So hopefully i'll

1045
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: have some you know, some bear in the crock pot,

1046
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: probably over at our place, some maybe some some bear schnitzel.

1047
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do now, Rachel, you

1048
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: have a reputation for doing things, let's just say the

1049
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: right way and living life the way that all of

1050
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: us were would hope to live it. Or do you

1051
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: you are succeeding? Do you have an elaborate set up

1052
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: for your camp like? What what describe people what you're

1053
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: planning to do? Now? I don't. I wouldn't say it's elaborate.

1054
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: I have many different camping setups depending on what exactly

1055
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing. Um, this particular setup I will be pulling.

1056
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: I have a really fun little ur pod camper, and

1057
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: I made sure it's it had to be used because

1058
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: there was only four years that they made a model

1059
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: that has an exterior rear kitchen, so i can pop

1060
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: open the back hatch and then I've got an exterior

1061
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: kitchen that then becomes really more like the bar for

1062
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. And I'm mostly known for really kind of

1063
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: being where the bar is um and so yeah, that

1064
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: is there's if you see a hatch open with blue

1065
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: lights and then a metal table sitting out that looks

1066
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: like a bar, that's meat, So just stop and have

1067
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: a drink. Yeah, strobo lights any black lights, Strobo lights?

1068
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: Just no, I have not gotten that far yet but

1069
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: it does have a stereo system, so I'm you know,

1070
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: maybe some tyler shoulders something like that coming out of

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00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: the speakers. I would say, I dig that. I dig that. Yeah.

1072
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think after a couple of days,

1073
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: we're all going to kind of like gather. We're going

1074
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: to have kind of mega camps. I feel like that's

1075
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: my prediction. Mega camps will form, tribes will be made,

1076
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: and we will battle it out for supremacy in the

1077
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: culinary and probably hangover game which I often do my

1078
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: best to win. That's said. That said, like, this is

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00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: super a kid friendly event too. We have tons of

1080
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: events for kids, um and things that they can do,

1081
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: hands on things that they can do um and uh,

1082
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, tons of things for them to learn. Um.

1083
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: So just because tons of families there, my children will

1084
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: be there as well. My kids are my kids. Actually

1085
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: it's like state soccer tournaments. They are probably not going

1086
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: to be there, which is super unfortunate and I'm super sad.

1087
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: But yes, there's gonna be tons of kids there. Yepw

1088
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean to me, it's gonna be

1089
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: you know, there'll be a lot of areas to hang out,

1090
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: free flowing like it. I mean, it feels good to

1091
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: be talking this way, to be to be planning to

1092
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: gather in this way after all this time. So you

1093
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: guys will excuse me if I'm not just beaming about

1094
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get out there with you guys and

1095
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: U rip it up in whatever way we can. So

1096
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: I now you say that I might have to bring

1097
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: uh my older son James, I think he will do well,

1098
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: you should and it's you know, I think we'll have

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00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: We have two kind of camping areas too. We have

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00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: a quiet camping area and a loud camping area, and

1101
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: so you know, depending on where you want to be

1102
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: ben Now, it doesn't mean that you can't hang out

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: late night at the loud camping area, but there is

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00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get some rest in the quiet camping area. Awesome, awesome, Well,

1105
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: hopefully everyone joins us that can make it, and if

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00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: you can't make it, we definitely understand. Um, we want

1107
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: you to join us virtually. You want you to get

1108
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: in all the good vibesus and I just want to

1109
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: back that up to just one more time, and it's like, yes,

1110
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: we we all know what the energy is like. We've

1111
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: been there we love getting together every year. Literally, wouldn't

1112
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: miss it for the world, except for when COVID happens

1113
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: and what we did virtual. Um. But this is a

1114
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: really amazing opportunity for any of your listeners who have

1115
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: been hearing about us talk about VJ for so long

1116
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: and maybe they've never been able to participate in the

1117
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: event they have have been involved with their chapters, like

1118
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity of a window into like

1119
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: the things we're interested in, what we like to do,

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00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: what we like to talk about. Um, we've got some

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00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: great panel discussions. We never avoid tough conversations. We want

1122
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: to educate each other, we want to you know, talk

1123
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: about important things. So um, you know it just it's

1124
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to virtually, you know, tap in, you

1125
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: you'll get the agenda. You can just pop in and out. Um.

1126
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: Sessions will be recorded if you can't miss, if you

1127
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: can't make something live, you can go back and watch

1128
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: it after the fact. So all the storytelling everything that

1129
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: we normally experience, everyone were able to experience virtually as well.

1130
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome, as we as we were saying earlier, you know,

1131
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: that's something that we talked about last year. We're gonna

1132
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: learn something during COVID and we're going to be able

1133
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: to capitalize it on that later in whether it was

1134
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: in a year or two years, we didn't know at

1135
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: the time. But here we are able to have folks

1136
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: join us that that wouldn't have had the opportunity in

1137
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: years past. So I'm happy for that. And again everyone's

1138
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: heard me talk about beach a us about it and

1139
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: defend it. And this is, as Rachel just said, there's

1140
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: an example of one way. There's many ways, but this

1141
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: is one way you can come and understand what the

1142
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: ethos of this group is, how we'd like to have fun,

1143
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: but we're also take our conservation our public lands seriously.

1144
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: And uh, it all comes together in this one awesome

1145
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 1: I guess we call it a weekend, but it really

1146
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: at this point, it's what four days, three days? Yeah,

1147
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: I think chapter leaders start showing up on Wednesday, which

1148
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: is absolutely awesome. We have our chapter leaders come in

1149
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: from all across North America, though I don't know if

1150
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: they'll open the border yet up in Canadia, so we'll

1151
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: see if our northern friends canna hang out. Um, but yeah,

1152
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: people from all across the country, and you know, again, man,

1153
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: I the people you meet, Like you said it earlier,

1154
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: then it's the people, the people, the people that define

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00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: b h A. And so if you've ever had a

1156
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: question about who b h A is or if you

1157
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: wanted to connect with the people that b h A,

1158
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: this is the amazing, the most amazing opportunity to actually

1159
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: be able to do that. Absolutely well. Um, I want

1160
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: to pivot. There's no good way to pivot from this

1161
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: party to the next topic I want to talk about.

1162
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it anyway. You gotta be in this

1163
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 1: line of work. You gotta be a master of the transitions.

1164
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about one thing that I just

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: wrote down I was thinking about talking to you guys. One,

1166
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to just get stoked for the rendezvous. You

1167
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: could fully feel the pregame action. I think we've done that.

1168
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: But the other thing I was thinking about I just

1169
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: wrote in in my notebook bipartisan and I underlined it

1170
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: about forty f and times because I've had you know,

1171
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: lands you come on before, and we've talked about by

1172
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: the partisan efforts and bills, the public Lands package being

1173
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: probably the most recent one. But I wanted to just

1174
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: explore the concept and intangible terms for people because everybody

1175
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: understands what bipartisan means, what it what it might mean

1176
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: in the political sense. But I think we're often, I

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01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: know we're often uh this day and age, getting beat

1178
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: over the head with partisanship, and a lot of people

1179
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: tell us that we're partisan before we've even seen an

1180
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: issue or thought about something. They're they're telling us, aren't

1181
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: you frustrated with how partisan things are? Like we haven't

1182
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: even started talking? Is that the first? How are we

1183
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: going to preface every conversation with partisanship? So I wanted

1184
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: to just get you guys to define, like in your

1185
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: daily working lives, what bipartisanship means, and that could be

1186
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: you know as you take it, and then start to

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: line out some real tangible things in your careers that

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01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: you've both seen that have that happened that you know,

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: brought different sides of a uh political ideology or social

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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: or cultural and something that's become bipartisan because I know

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01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: that we've all celebrated those things when we get the chance.

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: So land your up first bipartisan man, So big topic,

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Speaker 1: H And I guess that would start that public lands

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01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: and public waters belonged to all of us, and those

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: public lands and public the waters. They don't care if

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: you're a pe akin, they don't care if you're a Democrat,

1197
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: they don't care if you're an independent. Like all we

1198
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: have to do is just you know, get out there

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01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: and experience them, just like anybody else. And so what

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Speaker 1: a great you know, nonpartisan place. I would say, I

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01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: am partisan, and I'm partisan too, like hunt and fishing

1202
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: and conservation, you know, like that's that's what I'm partisan towards.

1203
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's what p h A is partisan towards.

1204
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: And so when we make decisions every single day, it

1205
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: is based on does this improve access to public lands

1206
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: and waters? And does this provide quality habitat once you

1207
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: get there? Those are pretty easy things to make decisions on.

1208
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: Does that make us partisan? Sometimes? Yeah? For and fishing

1209
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: for conservation, that's like that's really what we're doing. Um.

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: I would say, you know that, Ronnie Lewis, since we've

1211
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: been talking about it. I'll go to the last time

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01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: that we were in UH in Boise. So in Boise

1213
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: you have a democratic mayor who showed up to our

1214
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: showed up to our UH brew fest, and like welcomed

1215
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: everybody you know that was there. So a Democratic mayor

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01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: later during the brew Fest, a governor little who was

1217
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: a Republican came out and declared it public lands dick.

1218
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: And so you have this Democrat and you have this

1219
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: Republican that probably on you know, the face of things,

1220
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: don't agree on anything. But where did they come together.

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01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: They came together at b h A and they came

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: together around public lands and public waters and so very

1223
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: tangible thing I would say that happened just around the rendezvous.

1224
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: That's something we try to do all the time, is

1225
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: just invite folks, you know, to to come, um that

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01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: support our public lands. Um. You know you mentioned the

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: Great American Outdoors. That kind of the gut passed this

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Speaker 1: last summer. You know, it had full llion dollars a

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01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: year for Land and Water Controvation Fund and then nine

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01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars to address the backlog. That was

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: passed in huge bipartisan fashion. And when we say bar partisan,

1232
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: what does that mean. It was like seventy two to eighteen.

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01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: There's a few people that didn't vote in the Senate,

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: Like that's Democrats and Republicans voting for something that normally

1235
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: hate each other and want to talk about the biggest differences.

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01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: But there they came together, I would say. Most recently,

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01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: this happened on Thursday of last week, which would happened

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01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: to be Earth Day. That legislation was introduced called the

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: Recovering America's Wildlife Act RAWA, which is in short, basically

1240
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: tries to keep common species common and then uh those

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01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: other species out of the emergency room so that we

1242
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: don't have to put them on the endangered species list.

1243
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: So this funding that this bill has passed will go

1244
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: towards state agencies and tribal agencies to make sure that

1245
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: we know about the species that we care about and

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: then do appropriate conservation again to keep them common if

1247
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: they're common, and to keep them out of the emergency

1248
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: room if not. That was that was introduced with two

1249
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: Republicans and two Democrats. That is by partisan and the again,

1250
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: what is it around. It's not about public lands and

1251
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: public and public waters. It's around public wildlife, right, So

1252
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: it's the third kind of these three things. And not

1253
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: that they can't come, you know, together and agree on

1254
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: other things like when they should take vacation and how

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01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: much money they should be paid. Or that kind of thing.

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01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: And I'm being a little glib there but or flipped,

1257
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: but what do they come together? Again all the time

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: around it's public lands, public waters, and in this case

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: public wildlife. And so that to me is what bipartisan is.

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01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: Um and and again like from b h as perspective, yeah,

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01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: we're partisan as hell, and it's for hunting and fishing

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Speaker 1: and conservation. That's how we make our decisions every single day. Yeah, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: well how do you follow that? That was gonna be

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Speaker 1: my question, but go ahead. Well, as you know, I

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Speaker 1: spent the last three years literally working in government and politics,

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Speaker 1: um and so I had the extreme luxury of coming

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Speaker 1: into that world from private industry. So talk about a

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Speaker 1: one eight on a level that I don't my mind

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: could barely comprehend. Um. But I was able to come

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Speaker 1: in in this amazing space that is outdoor recreation. And

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Speaker 1: when when I could, when I was coming into it,

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Speaker 1: it was it was outdoor recreation and government, outer recreation

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Speaker 1: and industry. Hardly ever ever did political party really come up,

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01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: because yes, I was working in government, Yes we're working

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, politics has everything to do with it. But

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: it's this amazing thing where all of a sudden, like

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Speaker 1: if you're talking about outer recreation and you're talking about

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Speaker 1: doing things that we love and are passionate about, like

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Speaker 1: like those like those labels and those easy buckets that

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Speaker 1: you can put people in just kind of melt away

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: because you know, like you meet somebody at a conference

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01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: and you've got different office about direct from different you know,

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: states and different agency leaders. No one is literally like

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01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: what party you're they in? What party you're they in? What?

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Speaker 1: Like that is just never a conversation because of the

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: space and like what we were what we worked on.

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: It was literally like hey are you a climber? Hey

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: are you a hunter? And you know I was labeled.

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Speaker 1: I was like kind of like our groups like Hunter

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Speaker 1: gal right, Like it's like those are the labels that

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Speaker 1: we were talking about, and it was just this like amazing,

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Speaker 1: remarkable space and energy that was created. And but that's

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Speaker 1: what is so applicable to h A and I think

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: by and large even above a lot of others out there.

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Speaker 1: It's like we're not going in asking for how do

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01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: you classify yourself this way? Or how do you classify

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Speaker 1: with yourself that way? You're literally you're coming in and

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01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: being like what tags did you draw this year? And like,

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: no one's just no one's, no one cares because ultimately

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: we all know what we care about, and we care

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01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: about hunting, we care about fishing, we care about habitat,

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: we care about all the things that support what we

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: love and what we're passionate about. And so recreation and

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01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: hunting and angling like this is literally the space that

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01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: people from very very very polar opposite spaces can come

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01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: together and have the most remarkable conversations and find out

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01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: they have everything in common. And you see it over

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01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: and over and over again. And so that's why I'm

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: so excited to like even see in the last like

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: four or five years, this growth of conversation, out of

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: shared passion um. And I think that it's like this

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01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: one small glimmering like shining beacon in all of this

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: partisan craziness out there, um, that you know, we are

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: able to come together and make headway, like Land said

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Speaker 1: like the Great American Outdoors Act, like that was like

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01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: again this like shining Beacon, It's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: like what is it that we all have in common?

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Speaker 1: And you look at that, but then it's like, well, geez,

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Speaker 1: if we have that in common, and you know, we

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Speaker 1: all care about that. Just think about maybe what else

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: we have in common words and I listened to we're

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01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: not willing to listen to each other. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Just I've loved being you know, I loved working in

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: the office about direct because of that. And then obviously,

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, working with b J and knowing the membership

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Speaker 1: and knowing how we work together. Um, yeah, like we

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: just don't paint each other into boxes. We just care

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Speaker 1: about what we care about. Yeah, it's kind of an

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: interesting to me. It was always as I try to

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Speaker 1: think about how this works in my own life, I

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: think about what I'm passionate about, right, and I think

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01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 1: about how that helps me, you know, level set my

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: value system. What do I care about? You know, what

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: can I really impact in the world. And then you

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: then you say, okay, well, hunting, fishing, wild places, you know,

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Speaker 1: healthy ecosystems, populations of wild game that we can all value,

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: you know that we have in public trust. And then

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01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: you think, okay, well, how how does that help us

1339
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: bridge the divides that we know are there socially, culturally,

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: you know, and oftentimes physically. And that's where this becomes

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: a bridge. What we're talking about, the subject matter we're

1342
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: talking about, becomes a bridge because we share so much

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01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: in this realm. We we often say that, at least

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: on this show, that it's pretty easy in this continent,

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Speaker 1: at least because most people share value for wildlife. We

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: kind of have different ways of approaching how to manage

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01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: that wildlife, how to interact and cohabitate, and and some

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: of those really complex issues. But by then we all

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01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: share this idea that we want them around, and we

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: all have that look up at that mountain. We all say,

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01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: it looks pretty cool. I'd like that to stay there,

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like that to remain the way it

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: is now. So it is Lantauni. It feels like we're

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: we're at least standing on a bridge, if I haven't

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Speaker 1: already walked across it. Huh yeah. Well, just like Land

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: was talking about how he likes to is talking about

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01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 1: the birds and ratting off the birds in his backyard,

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01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: and he watches birds. I would rather gouge my eyeballs

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01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: out with the two things. But honestly, I appreciate that

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: Land likes the birds, and I am happy he cares

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01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: about them because I care about those things too, but

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01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: I like the ones I can kill and the pay

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01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: attention to the other ones just being honest, But I

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Speaker 1: support Land in his bird watching. Thank you, Rachel Um.

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01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: I guess one other way one of the anglides say

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01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: been too is that that I would describe by partisan

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01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: is is that you know, we've been talking about how

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Speaker 1: we all come together, you know, for a shared cause,

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01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: and that's all been positive. But there's also those things

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Speaker 1: that are proposed that are either by a Democrat or

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01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: a Republican that we do not agree with. And what

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Speaker 1: is awesome is to see the pushback that comes back

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Speaker 1: in a bipartisan fashion. Right, It's like Democrats will push

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01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: back against a Democrat. The Republican pushback. That's easy to anticipate, right, like, oh,

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: Democrat did something, Republician just gonna say no. Same thing

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: with Democrats, you know, like a Republican does something, and

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: that Democrats are easy to see there. But when you

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01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: have Democrats and Republicans and independence pushing back on an

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01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: ill faded idea, that is where like the power comes in.

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Speaker 1: So we can talk about the positive pieces which we

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01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 1: have been but I also think when there's something that

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01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: needs to be pushed back on that. Somebody proposed that

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01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: just wasn't well educated, or has a pet project that

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01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: isn't good for public lands, isn't good for public waters,

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01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: it is not good for a public wild back. The

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01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: amount of pushback that comes back that is bipartisan against that,

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01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: I think that is a true sense of really what

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01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: that word is, because it'd be easy to be quiet

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, we had that recently. I would say

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: even within the organization there were some I made. I

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: had a position on crossbows, the one that really wasn't

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 1: agreed upon by our Montana chapter, and we were able

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: to I think because of this, this we understand each other.

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01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: We have a shared value system. Pretty work through that

1395
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: pretty damn quickly, say like, here's where I am, here's

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: where you are. I had a lot of emailers want

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01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: to discuss it. We discussed it on air and off

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: and um, we're able to work through some of those

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: things and get to a place where there was I

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01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: think both sides were probably unlikely to agree, but came

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01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: to an agreement pretty damn quickly to say, like, I

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 1: think if we had a position, this is what it

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: ought to beat Boom done, living living the good life. Um,

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: and I think that's because we go ahead, well, sorry

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01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: to cut you off. I guess I would say that's

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: part of about like again that bipartisanship is the ability

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: to have conversations. And then this dirty word called compromise, right,

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 1: like when did that become a compromise? You know, whended

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: up coming? Like when sorry, when it compromise become a

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01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: dirty word like compromise. It's like how the world works,

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01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't know Ben how you're doing with your

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: wife and these two young kids. But if he were like,

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01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna be my way or the highway, that

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't work out very well, you know. And I would

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01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: say the same thing if I was like, Rachel, well

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: maybe this is a bad example, but Rachel, you gotta

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: drink like Boone's farm for the rest of your life

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01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: only like and she's like, no, well, how about how

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01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: about you know BHS infidel? And I was like, okay,

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01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: we can compromise right like so like and that's not

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01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: the best example. I apologized for that, but I think

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: this idea of conversations actually listening to somebody and then

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: coming up with something that works for both people like

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: that is like one of the best things about bipartisanship

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: that I can like even like I mean and this

1426
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: idea that, oh you flip flopped or you changed, you know,

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01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: the way you thought about something. Man, if we're not

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01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: if we're not able to listen to people that we

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01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 1: disagree with and find a path forward with them, like

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01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: what world are we living in? You know? Like this

1431
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: idea that we're just gonna beat everybody on the head

1432
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: and you've got to think exactly the way I do.

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: That is not the way of the world works. And

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01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the important things about bipartisanship

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: is finding compromise in the middle. I don't I don't

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01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: trust and don't feel comfortable in a situation where you

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: have a group of people that one agree with one another,

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: because that is complete and ut our horseship. We don't

1439
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: all agree on everything, um, and so I'm happy to

1440
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: work with people in the areas that we do agree

1441
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,919
Speaker 1: on on things together. But like, if you talk about compromise,

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01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: I feel like compromise comes from a more defensive position,

1443
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: Like something has happened to me, and so I'm in

1444
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: a defensive position, and so therefore we now are compromising

1445
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: and so like if you look at it on the

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01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: flip side, like the buzzword is collaboration, and I feel

1447
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: like collaboration is doing the same thing, but it's doing

1448
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: it in a proactive instead of a reactive manner. I

1449
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: guess offensive defensive maybe is wrong. But again, compromises like

1450
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: from this reactive versus collaboration comes from this, like proactive space,

1451
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: You're still doing the same thing. Um, it's just that

1452
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: oftentimes when you get to the point where it's compromised,

1453
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: people feel attacked. People feel um, you know, like things

1454
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: are happening to them that are out of their control. Um.

1455
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: And that's why we've made so much headway like in

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: proactive collaboration, I think over the years to get these

1457
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: things done, um, and I think there's a huge shift

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 1: that way. So I don't know, I just again it compromised.

1459
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,919
Speaker 1: This isn't a bad word. It's just often done in

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01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: a space and a place where people feel a little

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01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: more frantic about it. Yeah. No, I totally agree. And

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: I think that being you know, reminding each other all

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: the time that we we were kind of starting from

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01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: a similar place. There's a lot of people that want

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01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: to argue that we're not you know that a rancher

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: for why Wyoming can't get along with a suburban kid

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01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: from New York. Uh. I think you would both agree

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: that we've seen that in B h A and Spades

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01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: and Land. You're you're probably the the number one evidence

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01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: that you can go from pyt Night to you know,

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Speaker 1: chapter meeting two. Back when we could travel like you're, You're,

1472
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: we were getting on you a lot for traveling too

1473
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,879
Speaker 1: much and being out there too much and being uh

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: too involved if that's a postible thing, because we wanted

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: your we wanted you to keep your sanity and be

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01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: able to to lead our organization. But the truth is you,

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: probably as much as anybody, have seen kind of people

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01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: gathering around these ideas and and and shared values systems

1479
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: instead of coming to it like, well, there's no way

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01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: we can get along. And I'm pretty happy that the

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01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: thing I love the most is kind of the campfire

1482
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: that people are gathering around. It's pretty amazing. It's unbelievable.

1483
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: I feel so lucky to be in that situation. Yeah,

1484
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: the campfire is pretty amazing. And I think you know,

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01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna butcher this a little bit, but I think,

1486
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: you know, Jim Paz, what we talk about like the

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01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,679
Speaker 1: hunter with the right heart, you know, and that's that's

1488
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: again like what I find all across the country. And

1489
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: you mentioned you know, some suburban or some you know,

1490
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: city person from New York and a rancher like that

1491
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: shared love for like the landscapes that you know, we

1492
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: all get to participate in. You know that we're very

1493
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: lucky that sixty billion acres that belongs to us all

1494
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: like that shared love for those opportunities and just the

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01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: ability even think a dream about it like that. That's

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01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: a place where I think we all start and is

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: something that binds us. And then after that, you know,

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 1: it's it's really individual individuals that have different perspectives on

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01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: different angles of that. But at the end of the day,

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01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: I can agree that that is like one of the

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 1: main things that binds us. And and to me, that's

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01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting things. Is like when I

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01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: go to like North Carolina in place I really hadn't

1504
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: been until this job, and I'm ready to be underwhelmed,

1505
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: underwhelmed by their public lands, underwhelmed by their commitment of conservation.

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01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, I'm growing up in Montana and this is

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: something that what we do and who we are. And

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01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,959
Speaker 1: I got over there and they had the same passion

1509
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: for the public lands. They have amazing public lands from

1510
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: the coast to the mountains, and you know, to learn

1511
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: from them, and like the birthplace of like modern I

1512
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: think different in show. You know, there's like they're like

1513
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: there's like a there's like even a cabin where like

1514
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: the birthplace of like kind of forestry was in this country.

1515
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: Like they're so prideful about that piece, you know. And

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01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 1: I really didn't know that story until I came there.

1517
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: And when I go to all these different places across

1518
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: North America, that same story as told. The characters may

1519
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: be different, but that pride and like and and and

1520
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: what they have and where they're going and how they're

1521
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: participating in this unique experiment, like they're just excited to

1522
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: be part of that. Man, And that that that to

1523
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: me fills the bucket, as I've said before. And while

1524
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: it might have been driving me nuts a little bit.

1525
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: And uh, and you know it wasn't great for myself

1526
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: physically or mentally, man, it was awesome too. And I

1527
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: can't wait to do it again. Yeah, to your point, man,

1528
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just this conversation to be able to talk

1529
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: about these concepts and and think about the success that

1530
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: b h A has had has been an easy road,

1531
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: but there are so many points along the way that

1532
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: we can celebrate into two tap to kind of take

1533
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: a year off from gathering and then know that we're

1534
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: we're buriling towards another celebration of of what this is

1535
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: and what we do. Man, I couldn't be um more related,

1536
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: more excited, more hopeful to see that coming together. So

1537
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 1: I would I guess I want to say to both

1538
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: of you guys, thanks for the work that you do

1539
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: and have done and will do. It means a lot

1540
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: to me. And I know the listeners of this show

1541
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: if you're so many of you are bh members, but

1542
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: if you're not, I know you all still admire the

1543
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: work that's being done. And again, as you always say, Land,

1544
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's if you know it's not b h A,

1545
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of great organizations out there to spend

1546
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 1: your conservation, time, energy and dollars um. Bolasher do like

1547
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: b h A, but that doesn't mean I don't also

1548
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: love n WTF and r m EF and and you

1549
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: don't have to be a member to do the work.

1550
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: That's the thing is like, join us in the conversation,

1551
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: listen to the conversations. If something hits you and you're

1552
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: passionate about that, you don't have to be invited to participate.

1553
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: And that is part I think that's part of the problem,

1554
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: is that it's daunting and like how do I How

1555
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: am I involved? How can I get involved? And obviously

1556
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: that's what BH is about, is teaching people and helping

1557
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: people be involved, elevate their voice, use their actions. Um,

1558
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to remember like you can reach out,

1559
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: you can take action. Um, everyone is invited to the table.

1560
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: That's what we're supposed to do. We elect people and

1561
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: then we tell them what to do where we go,

1562
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: and we work with policymakers, We do all of those things.

1563
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: It's the hard work, and it's you don't see it

1564
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: right away and you don't see the tangible benefit right away,

1565
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: but it's a hard work that everyone is willing to

1566
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: tackle when we sign on for this. So yeah, yeah,

1567
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 1: I've seen in these recent state legislative sessions after an election,

1568
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: the flurry of a legislation that gets pushed on a

1569
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: state level. It's happened here in Montana, It's happened in

1570
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: the Utah. It's I mean, name is state basically, and

1571
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: um are our state leaders, chapter leaders have jumped into

1572
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: this with both feed and every example that I've ever seen.

1573
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: And um, like I said, whether or not I understand

1574
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: the issue or even agree with the stance, I know

1575
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: that those people are coming from a place that I appreciate,

1576
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: coming from a place that I value, and they're fighting

1577
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: for the things I'm gonna fight for. So I mean,

1578
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: that's a good It's damn good to have that knowledge.

1579
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: All those people are out there, and I ben, I

1580
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: would say that you know, none of what we have

1581
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: today happened by accident, right like, you know, we stand

1582
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: on the shoulders of giants, and whether that's the the

1583
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: big people that we know about, like the Theodore Roosevelts

1584
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: and the elder Leopolds of the world. By the way,

1585
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: that's best shirt of all time, like Eldo F and Leopold,

1586
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: Like I love that shirt. Um that all these things

1587
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: that we experienced today are because other people stepped up

1588
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: at the state legislatures at the federal level, right like.

1589
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: And it's not like that ever goes away it's just

1590
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: our time to do our part. And how exciting that

1591
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: we can get to have this conversation about being engaged,

1592
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: where in other parts of the world we would be

1593
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,839
Speaker 1: fighting for scraps and like here we're trying to preserve

1594
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: something is available to everybody, and how lucky are we?

1595
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: Like that is like to me, And again I know

1596
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: that we don't get to get to this finish line

1597
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: right and be like Okay, we're done, like we've done

1598
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: it all, like we don't have to do any other work,

1599
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: Like it's always gonna be there. And I hope that

1600
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, my young kids care about it or somebody

1601
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: else's young kids care about it and help move it forward.

1602
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: But again, I'm just excited to have such an amazing

1603
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: team to hang out with, um to do this every

1604
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: single day. And Ben, I would count you with that

1605
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: every step of the way. And I was joking you

1606
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: know a little bit about that, Ben long Um you

1607
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: know kind of email that I looked up, But it's

1608
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: the truth. Man, Like you stick out and I just

1609
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: appreciate you on the team. It's good to be a

1610
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: part of it. As I probably told you from the

1611
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: very beginning, I've said a bunch of different times. You know,

1612
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I have a son now. I just spent eleven days

1613
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: on our public lands straight hunting turkeys, and every single

1614
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: tag I bought anyone can buy, and all very affordable,

1615
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: all extremely accessible. You can camp, you can fish, you

1616
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: can hike, you can turkey hunt. I just did that.

1617
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: It's not that it's it's not a concept that you

1618
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: can't feel like. I just I didn't spend a single

1619
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: I didn't put a single bootprint on private ground. That

1620
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: wasn't you, It wasn't me getting out of the truck

1621
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: on the highway to take a piss. So I I

1622
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: know that I celebrate that in my daily life, and

1623
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a lost on me. When I

1624
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: watched my little kid, you know, smile and and understand

1625
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: that same thing. So I told you probably first time

1626
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: we talked on the phone after that been along email,

1627
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: I said, I'll do it, man, because I'm about to

1628
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: have a kid, and um, I want that young young

1629
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 1: man to know what I know. He'll do with it

1630
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: whatever he pleases, and he'll be free to to use

1631
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: it as much as he liked. But I just want

1632
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: him to know that resources there for him and those

1633
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: people that defended her are standing there right beside you.

1634
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: So it's uh, it all sounds very uh high salutin

1635
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 1: right now and very inspirational, but hey, it is. I'm

1636
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: sorry it is. Deal with it. We're inspired. If you

1637
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: don't like it, leave just kidding. It's all very inspiring.

1638
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: And so thank you to to Rachel and thanks to

1639
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: you Land, and we'll hope to see in Missoula. Everybody,

1640
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: come on by. I'll have some some turkey nuggets at

1641
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: the very least ready for everybody. You've heard it here.

1642
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: They'll be turkey nuggets, and then Rachel will have a

1643
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: big blue bar. So like you can't go wrong with

1644
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: either one of those things. We aren't. We should, but

1645
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: make it. Like I said, a mega camp is in

1646
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: the offing where we eat everybody. Everybody has their job

1647
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: to do, you know, everybody specifically. You gotta provide this correct.

1648
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: We've gotta come together times like this, especially uh whiskey,

1649
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 1: simfandel whatever else. So all right, guys, thank you so much.

1650
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Back Hush your hunters dot org go

1651
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 1: check it out, check out the Rendezvous sign up now,

1652
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: join us virtually or in person. It will be an

1653
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: epic part. See you guys, Thank you, thanks and good

1654
01:25:54,520 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: talking as always. That's it. That's all another episode in

1655
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: the books. Thank you to Land, Tawny, Rachel Schmidt and

1656
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: everybody at b h A. So please come join us

1657
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: at the Rendezvous, one of the coolest gatherings and one

1658
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: of the coolest organizations in all of hunting and conservation.

1659
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: And please come join us for Phil's first Turkey out

1660
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: which coming right up here in the weeks to come,

1661
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: the final two weeks of the program. UM, I would

1662
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: I guess, like the end of our shows for the

1663
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: for the rest of this we want to try to

1664
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: address you know, the end of this this year program

1665
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: and and um, as you would expect, Phil, hundreds of

1666
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: emails coming in d m s, Instagram, d m s.

1667
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 1: A lot of people, some people confuse, some people angry

1668
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 1: so much. Hey, the podcast was free, so you know

1669
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: it was always free. UM. Some people wanted to reflect

1670
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people, UM just just generally interested in

1671
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: the reasoning behind the show gown away. I don't want

1672
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: to get into any of that. But what I will

1673
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: do is is read some emails from some some folks

1674
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: who are reflective and and even emotional so you're gonna

1675
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: see uh that evolution with our our buddy, Josh Englehart.

1676
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: He wrote in Dear Sweet Benjamin and Philip, I am

1677
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: a smidgen behind on my podcast, but I was just

1678
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: told by my chapter leader that the podcast is over.

1679
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: W TF. I just heard a few seconds ago, and

1680
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to throw up. Th HC

1681
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: is a sunny spot in my life and I'm sad

1682
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: to hear the news. Is there anything we can do

1683
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: to keep it around? I still have to listen to

1684
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: the most recent podcast. Fuck. This sucks so much. Thanks

1685
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: for doing what you do. I'll miss you, guys, Josh.

1686
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: Like many people, Josh took a little bit of time

1687
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: to reflect and then wrote back in a little bit later.

1688
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: He said, first, I'd like to apologize for my last email.

1689
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: I admit I was a bit emotional hearing the news

1690
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: of the end. It might be weird, but having you

1691
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 1: in my ear or on my radio is like sitting

1692
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: down with an old friend. Not the kind you haven't

1693
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: seen since childhood or dread conversation with, but the sort

1694
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: would no matter how long you've been apart, you can

1695
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: pick it up just as though you spoke yesterday. I

1696
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: have thoroughly enjoyed listening to your conservation conversations. You've challenged

1697
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: my way of thinking and opened my mind. It It

1698
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: sounds dramatic, but I feel I live differently after all

1699
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: the time spent listening to the show. I'm slower to

1700
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: judge and much more empathetic than I've ever been. I

1701
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: guess I just want to say thanks for not just

1702
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: for the show, for how you've made my life better.

1703
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm losing a friend. Is this email

1704
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: going to be dissolved after the show is over? Is

1705
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: there any way to still contact you after the end? Thanks?

1706
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: Pellas Josh First of all, th HC at the Mediator

1707
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: dot com. I imagine we'll live on forever. Phil. Do

1708
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: you think so? You think they there's no reason to

1709
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: shut it down? Yeah? Reading the emails, Yeah, I'll definitely

1710
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: read the email. Listen. You can get ahold of me

1711
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: any which way Instagram, th HC at the Mediator dot com,

1712
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Join one of our chapters, get get in touch with

1713
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: the leaders of those chapters. I'll still be very active

1714
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: in that kind of stuff, and we'll still have many

1715
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: ways to communicate. Um. So as much as I do

1716
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: also feel like I'm losing thousands and thousands of friends, UM,

1717
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: because people say, do you have friends? Of the thousands

1718
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: of them, you won't even know how many friends I have. UM.

1719
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 1: But but in all serious Josh and everyone else listening

1720
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: that that that shares his emotions, we take this very

1721
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: seriously here. The connection we've had with you has been

1722
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: been awesome. UM. The fact that you, so many of you,

1723
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: have been willing to spend time not only listening to us,

1724
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: but interacting with us, whether you drew Phil's voice face,

1725
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: or you wrote a poem poetic review for this program,

1726
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 1: or you made a video about a conservation bill. UM.

1727
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I can't think of all the other things left one

1728
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: star review on iTunes calling Ben a green decoy, Yeah,

1729
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: any of those things a dirty lip, any of those

1730
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: things that you did spend time with us. Thank you,

1731
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. We appreciate it, UM, all of it, and

1732
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: all of it is UH has been fun, and it's

1733
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 1: been a one hell of a long run for us, UM,

1734
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: and so well, we will continue to be reflective and

1735
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: celebrate this with all of you. And but but but

1736
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: the main thing is that we're not going to change

1737
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: what we've been here to do for the next couple episodes,

1738
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: which is laugh, make fun of ourselves, but also have

1739
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: some conversations that challenge us and that push us forward,

1740
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: because that job is never gonna be over. It could

1741
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: it could go on for as long as I'm around,

1742
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: and as long as fills around, and long as all

1743
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: of you are out there. So um, first things first,

1744
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: thank you. Second thing, go find your THHC chapter on

1745
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Facebook and joint and and and those connections that you

1746
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: may make their will keep this podcast and and everything

1747
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: it means to me and to to you going uh

1748
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 1: into the future even when it's not here anymore. Anything,

1749
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: feel that you'd like to add to that? Uh? Not really?

1750
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean we we could have the show go on

1751
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: for like eight seasons. Yeah, and then in the last

1752
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: season they crowned brand the King of West Roast and

1753
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: people are disappointed because he has a good story or something. Right,

1754
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, I think we might end this like

1755
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: the Sopranos, just be having breakfast after the Turkey Hunt

1756
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: and then cut to black. Yeah, fade to black instead

1757
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: of instead of do you know what makes a good king? Story?

1758
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: Who has a good story? Like that kid a tree

1759
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: for four years he hasn't even he wasn't even in

1760
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 1: one season. We could have, we could The last episode

1761
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: could just be us recapping that for Steven Ronnella was

1762
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: one of my favorite string Steve back in here. We'll

1763
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: force him to watch Game of Thrones. It just it

1764
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 1: just probably fired me right at that moment, I'll be out.

1765
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Um alright, anyway, Sorry, I think you wanted something heartfelt

1766
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: from me. I would admit to it, being like, it

1767
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: feels like a little bit self serving to be heartfelt

1768
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: because then you have to just build up something that,

1769
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: um is just a podcast. But again, I'm listening, man,

1770
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: I hear you guys. Have read all your emails. If

1771
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: I haven't replied to you, I apologize your d M

1772
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: s or your emails, but um, I've read them all.

1773
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: And um uh catching all the fields there, Philly, catching

1774
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: all the fields. It's important to us. I know it's

1775
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: important to you. So thank you for listening. We've got

1776
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: two more episodes, one seventy six and one seventy seven. Uh,

1777
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: you know what's coming, and that's filled the engineer killing

1778
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: a turkey. No pressure fail, but it means a lot

1779
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 1: to me. Say bye bye, clean, you're gun and turn

1780
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: your bowl where the huntclipped, showing calling hunters new and

1781
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: all the hun collected, show working pig and shovel or

1782
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: working ben in Hame. We comregate nice Overton, I'm a lay.

1783
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: We're focused. We're just leaving for searching, dreaming of fir

1784
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: and assaultic Gilbern. But we ain't coming back until it's

1785
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Colden Lake taking its slow so we can shoot straight.

1786
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Clean your gun, Tune your bowl where the hunt glegged,

1787
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: show calling hunters new and all. Ain't no cold, I'm

1788
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: told