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Speaker 3: That episode fiveh three with Dylan Scott. Dylan has five

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Speaker 3: without giving any specific details, how far do you.

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Speaker 2: Now it's run down, it's run down pretty good. How

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Speaker 3: Paper mill stunk that we played ball, oh, but anywhere

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Speaker 3: I smell like that to other people when you would

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Speaker 2: No, so you weren't like stained by the paper mills.

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Speaker 3: But I just remember going into Ashdown which had the

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Speaker 1: But it was also like that's home, you know, what

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Speaker 1: It's called Bastrip, Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean population seven hundred. That was my hometown.

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Speaker 3: And I would say eighty percent of this at any city,

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Speaker 3: And when it went down, everything got bad, school got bad.

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Speaker 2: Everybody left. Same here.

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Speaker 4: What's on the property now, nothing, that's nothing at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a way over

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Speaker 1: the mill. Did I ever think I would, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like after high school? Oh no, because you always

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Speaker 2: Now, when you're that young, I didn't know what Nashville was.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I was trying to be my dad.

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Speaker 1: In fourth grade, I wrote a book called My Future Life.

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Speaker 1: And looking back now, I mean it was stories that

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Speaker 3: But my grandma adopted me for a lot of my life,

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Speaker 2: So it was like I said it, I'm doing it.

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Speaker 2: But it's crazy you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even before fourth grade I knew. But

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I think and I try to tell people as like,

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Speaker 2: Got to work hard.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be given to you. You can do

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Speaker 1: or you know, make some negative comment. I'm in my

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Speaker 3: People that can't or are scared to do it are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And as soon as you tell yourself you're not

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Speaker 3: I have a very similar feeling about life.

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Speaker 3: Weird to say and feel, but I think everything is negotiable. Everything,

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 3: Was like Disney Disneyland was like the stuff on TV

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Speaker 3: That was like crazy big bunnies and like that wasn't

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Speaker 2: Did it right there.

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Speaker 3: How influential was your dad on either way on I

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Speaker 3: or if you want to do music, like let me

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, my dad took pride in the fact

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter what I wanted to do, they were

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Speaker 1: the parents like, no, you need to do this, you

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Speaker 1: life and never I mean, the only thing my dad

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Speaker 1: told me, like this is probably of the best advice

443
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 1: I ever got. I didn't realize it at the time,

444
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 1: was it's not an overnight success.

445
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,919
Speaker 2: You know, it can be for some people.

446
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 3: Well, it also looks like it for everybody whenever you're

447
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,440
Speaker 3: from far away. Yeah, it looks like everybody just got

448
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,439
Speaker 3: famous one day. Yeah, but as your dad knew and

449
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 3: as you know now, God dang, it is so the opposite.

450
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,880
Speaker 3: Even for people that have overnight success, it ain't overnight.

451
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's not overnight. And I mean sometimes I'm

452
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: really bad about this. It's like I get so caught

453
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 1: up and looking in the future. What's next? What am

454
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Speaker 1: I gonna do? How am I gonna do this? How

455
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,239
Speaker 1: am I going to keep this thing going? You know

456
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 1: that I forget to sit back and go Yeah, it

457
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Speaker 1: may have. It took some time for me. You know,

458
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Speaker 1: I was twenty five twenty six before I have my

459
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Speaker 1: first hit and has it moved as quickly since then

460
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Speaker 1: as I would want?

461
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 2: No?

462
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I have to sit back

463
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 1: and go, Man, but look what everything that's happened, Look

464
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: what's happened so far. You know, look where I'm at.

465
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm exactly where I wanted to be living in Nashville.

466
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm more a bus We're playing music to a bunch

467
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Speaker 1: of fans, sold out shows, and we've had number ones,

468
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 1: and you know, you forget that kind of stuff.

469
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Speaker 2: Sometimes.

470
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471
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Speaker 2: Good perspective. I think myself included.

473
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Speaker 3: And I bet if we got ten creatives in whatever

474
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Speaker 3: way at different levels of success, and we said, how

475
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: do you feel about it? I just don't feel like

476
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing it fast enough. I don't feel like I don't.

477
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: It drives me crazy. Yeah, Like I'm like, I'm not

478
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 3: where I want to be.

479
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm not moving at the rate I think I should

480
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Speaker 2: be moving.

481
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 3: Like there's places where progression has completely stalled.

482
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm really bad about the stalling part.

483
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Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm just like sitting in limbo

484
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 1: when really there's a lot going on right. It's just

485
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm sitting in limbo. And what I

486
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: used to be really bad about in my twenties, really

487
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: all through life until my late.

488
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Speaker 2: Twenties early thirties, when I figured it out.

489
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: I used to sit back and look at everybody else

490
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: and try to compare situations, Well, why is this happening

491
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: for them?

492
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: And why is this not happening blah blah blah blah.

493
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Speaker 1: And I used to wear myself out over it, you know,

494
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: and then one day, I don't know if it's just

495
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: getting older. I don't know if it's having three kids

496
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 1: now that keep my mind somewhere else, or my wife.

497
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Speaker 2: But I don't feel that way anymore. You know.

498
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, I'm having fun. It is what

499
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: it is. I don't care what anybody else is doing.

500
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm super happy for everybody. I just got to worry

501
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: about what's going on in my life, and that's when

502
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: I got really happy.

503
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Speaker 2: Does your dad keep playing music a little bit at home?

504
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: Like did he play for fun or met in church,

505
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: played in church and keep a guitar in the house,

506
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: kept a guitar in the house together, but not a

507
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: ton man?

508
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: Did he teach you how to play. Yeah, he taught

509
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Speaker 2: me guitar.

510
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: He taught me the cores I needed to learn, and

511
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Speaker 1: after that, I mean it was pretty much kind of

512
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: on my own in a way. I mean I'd be

513
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Speaker 1: in my bedroom playing guitar singing, and he'd walk in

514
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: and open the door and he'd look at me and go,

515
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: you're over singing and just shut the door all back out,

516
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, But it's really it. I mean, most everything

517
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: I've done by ear. I learned piano when I was

518
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: super young. Try to take lessons and piano teacher calls

519
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 1: my dad. She's like, I really can't teach him. Like

520
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: if I play anything, he'll just learn it by ear

521
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: without reading it. Like, I don't know what I can

522
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: do here, So I've just kind of all picked it

523
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Speaker 1: up on my own. I mean, my dad has taught

524
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Speaker 1: me a lot, don't get me wrong.

525
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Speaker 2: But I picture you like screaming out of the womb

526
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Speaker 2: like this.

527
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Speaker 1: I remember playing basketball like outside in the neighborhood as

528
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Speaker 1: a kid.

529
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Speaker 2: Buddies be like, man, your voice is deep? Was it

530
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: always deep? I mean I guess for a kid it was, yeah.

531
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a was there a like a

532
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: puberty where it just kind of did that or was

533
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: it always just deep and it just got a little deeper.

534
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: I think it was just deep as a kid and

535
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: got deeper. I mean I remember going through obviously puberty

536
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: and he had the little but it wasn't nothing crazy.

537
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: It wouldn't like all of a sudden, whoa, what just happened?

538
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember that anyway away.

539
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Speaker 3: For my boys get deeper, like my puberty hits me.

540
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be so cool. I'ma have a good voice.

541
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Speaker 2: Your kids, are they all boys?

542
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Speaker 1: Or two boys and a girl? So the oldest is

543
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Speaker 1: seven Beckett, he's a boy, and then it's my little girl, Findley,

544
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Speaker 1: she's five. And then we have a year and a

545
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: half year old boy, Baron, and we're done anymore.

546
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Speaker 2: Is there any connection to the names? No?

547
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: Just whatever whatever my wife wanting. Yeah, i'd say whatever,

548
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: not whatever. She throws some stuff out that I turned down,

549
00:23:59,640 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 1: really quo.

550
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: But so you had veto, but you let her for

551
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: the most part. Yeah. And a lawnmower got me, She

552
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: got you, She got me. She better be last. She's

553
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: pretty man.

554
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Speaker 3: On the side on the Lawnmore. When did you sing

555
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 3: in public and not just in front of your parents.

556
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: But when did you ever sing in front of people

557
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: that didn't know you?

558
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've sing in church my whole life.

559
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: I was in a gospel trio with two other girls.

560
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: We traveled around for a couple of years when I

561
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Speaker 1: was a teenager, like fourteen, fifteen years old.

562
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Speaker 2: What was her name?

563
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Speaker 1: It's called eleventh Hour, which eleventh Hour is still around.

564
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: They're still doing their thing that.

565
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: It's actually a pretty cool name. A lot of times

566
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 3: when people go, I was in at something at fifteen,

567
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, that's a good name.

568
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, eleventh Hour man.

569
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: So we were you know, Southern gospel music, and they've

570
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: i mean they've had hits on Southern gospel radio and stuff,

571
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: so it's really cool.

572
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: But I mean I used to play a little I

573
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Speaker 2: don't know what you call them.

574
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: That's a thing called the Louisiana hay Ride background from

575
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Speaker 1: which is kind of iconic.

576
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: Elvis used to play. A bunch of guys used to

577
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: play it.

578
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 1: But we'd played the little small town theater shows with

579
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Speaker 1: the house Bam. That's where I met Laney Wilson. She's

580
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: from the town over from a and we were sup

581
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Speaker 1: from basketing fourteen basketin ye yeah, we were fourteen, fifteen

582
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: years old and met her at one of those one.

583
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Speaker 2: Of those shows.

584
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: I was about to walk on stage, had gum on

585
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Speaker 1: my misle. She puts her hand out, she goes, give

586
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: me your gum, So, are you serious? She's like, give

587
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: me your gum. So I put my gum in her

588
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: hand and been buddies ever since. So we've been doing

589
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: that a long time. That's pretty cool. Yeah, the two

590
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Speaker 1: people from two small towns.

591
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: Yep, right there together playing the same little shows and

592
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: now here, Yeah, playing basically same shows. Yep. Yeah's that's

593
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: a good one. Yep.

594
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: When you moved here, you say you were nineteen. I

595
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: think you said you were twenty five twenty six before

596
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: you had a hit.

597
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: What were those years?

598
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 6: Like?

599
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: What were you doing nineteen to twenty five twenty six?

600
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: Just a lot of a lot of writing here in town,

601
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: meeting a lot of songwriters.

602
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: And then I hit the road.

603
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: I bought a nineteen ninety nine black Ford van from

604
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: some bluegrass group in Kentucky and they converted it into

605
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: like a little that's some little bunks in it.

606
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: You know.

607
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: I thought I was thought I had it going on,

608
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, But we hit the road, playing shows for

609
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a night for nobody, you know, around

610
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: the whole country.

611
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: We were driving this van.

612
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 3: Tell me about a small show, Like what comes to

613
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: mind if I say, tell me about a small show?

614
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: Six people in Montana at a bar. That's a small show.

615
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: And I mean, you got to understand, we had no

616
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: hits at the time, but we were putting music out

617
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how I was going to do it.

618
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: I had no I mean, six people, full band show.

619
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Speaker 2: That's tough, Like, how do you maintain an appropriate energy? Yeah,

620
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: for six people? And I don't know. I mean.

621
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Speaker 1: Who I was back then to now is just night

622
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: and day. A buddy of mine from from that same

623
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: band that from the very beginning sent me a video

624
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: the other day of us on stage, and I said, man,

625
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: I said, who is that kid?

626
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: And why would anybody give him a record deal? Why

627
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: do you say that? What was different about that.

628
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Hid The body, mannerisms of how I performed, the way

629
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: I sung was totally different, just everything.

630
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: It was just like I just if that kid would

631
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: have if I'm at.

632
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: A record label today, and that kid myself early on

633
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: walk into the room. I've been like, I don't know,

634
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: that's my opinion anyway.

635
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: But didn't that kid try? And they said, I don't

636
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: know until you got better.

637
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I got a record deal before I graduated

638
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: high school? Wait what? Yeah? Like what how started coming

639
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: to town at sixteen? What the crap? You got a record?

640
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I had two offers.

641
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: I had two record deal offers before I graduated high school,

642
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: one from Curb Records and one from Warner Brothers.

643
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Those are real labels.

644
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was going to be like from Westland Dixie

645
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: Record Company, like a guy that worked.

646
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

647
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: Man, It's like getting back to what we were talking

648
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: about earlier, manifesting stuff and no coincidence and believing that.

649
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know how. I just knew that.

650
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: That's why I was gonna do it.

651
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: What they hear, what they hear from you at seventeen,

652
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: you obviously like had a CD or something, right.

653
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I'm not saying I was terrible,

654
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: you know, It's just the way I sung and the

655
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: way I carried myself.

656
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, what do these people see?

657
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: But I don't know, dude.

658
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: I was I was doing, like the really old school

659
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: country stuff like I grew up a huge Keith Whitley fan,

660
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: and obviously my dad with his past, like I grew

661
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: up on the old stuff, and so when I moved

662
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: to town like I was, I guess what I was

663
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: trying to do was be something that I wasn't.

664
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: As far as the way I sung, I was gonna say,

665
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: did you try to sing like Keith Whitley?

666
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, pure Whitley, pure, Yeah, not that you're not.

667
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: It's a different textually.

668
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: And completely different, completely different, in my opinion, just one

669
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: of the best voices there will ever be. But yeah,

670
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: And I think I just had to find myself as

671
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: all it was. And I think those little shows for

672
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: six people in that van and going and doing it

673
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: every weekend is what got me better. Being in the

674
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: studio and singing made me find who I was as

675
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: not only a person, but as a singer.

676
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I did a show at the Rhyman last night, and

677
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who the artist is, but they're super

678
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: successful now. But I think what you're saying lends to

679
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: what I was explaining to some of my friends after

680
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: the show, is that there are certain artists they get

681
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: famous so fast because of technology, right, but they do

682
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: not have the skills to actually sing because they haven't

683
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: had to do it in tiny places, in small places.

684
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: How to do it?

685
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Sick, learn how to do it three nights in a row,

686
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: learn how to and so they can have massive songs.

687
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: They can have success in that way, but they haven't

688
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: been given the time or the ability to actually learn

689
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: how to one do it to find themselves and they

690
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: are who they are and there's almost nowhere for them

691
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: to go in a weird way, they're kind of trapped.

692
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: It's a great place to be trapped at first, but

693
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: they're kind of trapped but they don't have that skill.

694
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: And then at times it can end up because everybody

695
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: records everything, it can end up on social media and

696
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: people like this person sucks when really they don't suck.

697
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: They just haven't learned how to sing. And I don't

698
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: mean how to sing, but I mean how to sing

699
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: as a career, good days, bad days, when you're sad.

700
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: How much can you drink before like all the stuff

701
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: that you talk about that you did, like finding yourself.

702
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: I think that's so important for people to hear because

703
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: you're in the middle of it.

704
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: You're going, man, it's kind of was.

705
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: I got eleven people here and all you know, and

706
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: all I got is an apple, like the writers, an

707
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: apple and an old warm mad dog.

708
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I think that's so it's so valuable.

709
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: For you and in finding myself what I mean for

710
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: me anyway, it was actually literally finding myself because I

711
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: was trying to be something I wasn't and again I

712
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: was trying to be part of it, what my dad

713
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: wanted me to be, or what these labels thought they

714
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: wanted me to be, or whoever else was in my ear.

715
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, it was like finding the true me.

716
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: But I think if you had like one American Idol,

717
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: for example, and you didn't know who you were as

718
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: a vocalist as what you wanted to say, you would

719
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: have been Dylan who won American Idol, and that's what

720
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: everybody would have known you for. Yeah, that's your stamp.

721
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: So getting back to what we was talking about while ago,

722
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: as far as it's taken me a long time to

723
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: get to where I'm at, I'm grateful for that because

724
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: I really think if I would have had success early on,

725
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: I might not be around anymore, or I might be

726
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: something that I'm not today right. My wife said the

727
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: other day was talking about something and whatnot, and maybe

728
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: the same conversation. She's like, it's just all in God's playing, you.

729
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: Know, just do you.

730
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna whatever's going to happen is going to happen,

731
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: you know. So just keep pushing along doing your thing,

732
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: and it'll happen when it's supposed to happen. And that's

733
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the same way with my music careers. Like it happened

734
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: when it was supposed to happen and how it was

735
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: supposed to happen.

736
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

737
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

738
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: What labeled you sayn with it? Seventeen curb breakers? Like

739
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: you're still on the same level. Yeah, I been there

740
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: almost fifteen years. That's crazy. That's an anomaly.

741
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean not the fifteen years, the fact

742
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: that took you ever many years seventeen to hold you

743
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: and you had to.

744
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: Hit I'm thirty when I had to hit Yeah, Oh

745
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: I was like twenty six.

746
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: Maybe nine years out of label.

747
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no commercial success. I'm sure they saw a lot

748
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: in you. But to have you for nine years and

749
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: you're still there nine years of We'll call it nothing.

750
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: It's not nothing, but it's growing and they kept you yeah,

751
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: not common.

752
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's another That's why I'm grateful for

753
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: all that. You know, look back and you know record

754
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: labels or record labels, you know, everybody can say anything

755
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: they want about them.

756
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: And it's with any business too. There's always good and

757
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: there's always bad.

758
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: But in my situation, it's like, man, I don't really

759
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: have anything bad to say. They've stuck with me from

760
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: the time I was a kid trying to find hisself,

761
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: and you know, it's and it was a tough road too,

762
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: because like when I signed with Curb Records, they opened

763
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: up a subsidiary label called Sidewalk Records, and I was

764
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: nobody at the time.

765
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: They still had Tim mcgrawl guys like that, and so.

766
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: They were putting all of their I would call them

767
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: c X and maybe BX over on Sidewalk just to

768
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: spread it out a little bit. So I got moved over,

769
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: and it was tough. I hit radio tour with nobody

770
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: explaining to me what radio tour was, and so I

771
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: walked into the first station I went to, not knowing

772
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: what I was supposed to do. There was you know,

773
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: it's just so much stuff to it back then. I

774
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: look back now and go, man, if I just had

775
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: somebody to tell me, hey, you need to do here's

776
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: what we're going to do, you know, maybe learn how

777
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: to do this or do that or and so I

778
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: was like this shy kid that And I really wasn't shy,

779
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: but I came across that way because I had no

780
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: idea what was going.

781
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: On, you know. And so we had failed singles and this,

782
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: this and that, and.

783
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Honestly, what really got me back over to the curb

784
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: side where I needed to be was just YouTube, social media.

785
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: We wouldn't really release some music.

786
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: And so I told myself, I'm not going to sit

787
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: here and wait for somebody to make me make my

788
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: career for me.

789
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: He's like, I want to do it myself. And so

790
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: I started writing.

791
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: Songs and making little homemade videos with buddies and throwing

792
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: them on YouTube, and it started gaining success and that

793
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: led to other things, and they're like, oh, we need

794
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: to do something.

795
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: So got back over on curb. And that's for their

796
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: hand a little bit. I had to. Yeah.

797
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Not that not that they didn't believe, it's just that

798
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: they had other things to go, and they had bigger

799
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: fish to fry.

800
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: Well, they had money that they had. They had to

801
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: cover their own butts and make money so they didn't

802
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: lose their job. Yeah, and with an unproven entity, if

803
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: they continue to invest in it and it doesn't make

804
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: money back, they lose their job. Like I understand the

805
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: logic and why they wouldn't. I'm surprised, and not because

806
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: it's you that after failed singles, they were like, we

807
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 3: still believe in you.

808
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: Let's keep going, even if it's a movie. To sidewalk,

809
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: who was it? Who?

810
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: Like, who do you look at at that time? That

811
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: was like the one that believed in you.

812
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: Def Turf is a guy over there who from day

813
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: one has just always been there for me. He's on

814
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: the marketing side of things, creative side of things. But

815
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't it's a hard question because I don't know

816
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: if there's I don't know if there's anybody that just

817
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't believe in me.

818
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: But somebody had to be like, that's our dude. Yeah,

819
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: And maybe you don't know who they are or were.

820
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I really, I really don't know how that

821
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 1: all happened collectively, you know, I don't know what really

822
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: went on there, but I did once I got back

823
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: to Curb, So I had probably two I think I

824
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: had two felt singles at Sidewalk.

825
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: What were they?

826
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: My first single was a song called making This Boy

827
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: Go Crazy. And when I say failed single, like it

828
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: didn't obviously.

829
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: Thirty two twenty sevenths.

830
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, didn't make top forty, you know, but

831
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: it's streamed well. And then we put out another song.

832
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: I think it was a song called Lay It on Me.

833
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: It didn't really do much stream decently, and it was

834
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: at that point that were like, man, these streaming numbers

835
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: look pretty decent for a note body.

836
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: And so that's when.

837
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: They moved me back over to Curb and we put

838
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: out a song called Crazy over Me, which did go

839
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: to like thirty two, thirty one. And then it was

840
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: the next single, which was my Girl was my first

841
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: number one?

842
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: Uh, crazy over Me? So he said, crazy over Me?

843
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: When that goes to thirty one or thirty two after

844
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: your moved back to the big label, is that a

845
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: success to you? Or because it wasn't a top ten

846
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: and you just got put back on we'll call it.

847
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: The big leagues? Or was does it feel like a

848
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: man failed again. Yeah, failed again.

849
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't the success, even though it was your highest.

850
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: I mean, in my eyes, not failings. Number one, you know,

851
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, not number two, not number three. I want

852
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: to be number I will have the number one song.

853
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: That's what that's what we're what we're here for have

854
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: a number one song. And so when we went to

855
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty one something like that, I mean I was,

856
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I was fired up right and with top forty single,

857
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: this is cool. We're getting played on quite a few stations,

858
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: and I was, uh, I remember them.

859
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: Calling me and just like we lost it.

860
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was devastating, because it's like, man,

861
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: am I ever going to have a number one at

862
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: that point? And then once you do have a number one,

863
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: you're still like, God, am I gonna be a one

864
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: hit wonder?

865
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: It never ends, never ends. That's so funny. He said that, I.

866
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: Have a very close friend who had a number one

867
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: hit this last year and he spent forever trying to

868
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: just get on the charts, gets a number one if

869
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: he had another one, Yeah, but then he's like.

870
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: What am I gonna do? I'm like, what do you mean

871
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: when you do?

872
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: I want to be a failure if I don't like, dude,

873
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: four months ago, you were begging for a top ten

874
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: just so you'd have another shot to have a song.

875
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 3: But I do that too, right, It's like we got

876
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: it and then we start hyper focusing in an unhealthy way.

877
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: Very unhealthy. But you gotta be that way. Well, yes,

878
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: not unhealthy, but you got to have that drive.

879
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: Drive is different than an unhealthy expectation. I have full

880
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 3: I'm full of unhealthy expectations, and I also have drive.

881
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: I try to balance them. Most of mine is very unhealthy.

882
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: I'm mentally very unhealthy. You get no men more mentally

883
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: unhealthy than me. I'm so competitive. I want to kill

884
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: everybody and everything all the time. So you're talking, we're

885
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: talking out of the same mouth here. Yeah, But when

886
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: it's somebody else, you have a bit more perspective, which

887
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: is what's odd. And I have a couple of friends

888
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: that will lend me perspective in the same situation and like,

889
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: you're out of your mind, here's why.

890
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 2: And with my friend, I'm like, you're out of your mind,

891
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: here's why.

892
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 3: Before you start to not sleep at night because you're

893
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: worried about being a one hit wonder, how about when

894
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: you didn't sleep, worrying if you're ever going to get

895
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: a hit or be able to keep doing music full

896
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: time to pay the bills.

897
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's where I was, and I'm sure

898
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: that's where he was as well.

899
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about?

900
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean after my girl. I just

901
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: had my first son, so I've got my wife, I've

902
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: got a kid. I mean, I'm starting my life really

903
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: and I have a number one song.

904
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: The money's going up a little bit, the shows are good. Everything,

905
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: guarantees are getting bigger on them.

906
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, like everything's great. Like I'm supporting my family doing

907
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: music now. I don't want to lose that.

908
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: You know.

909
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: It's like that's why you don't want to be a

910
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: one hit wonder and you start stressing about it, like okay,

911
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: I got to keep this going.

912
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: Because this is how I pay the bills. Hey, how

913
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: fast did my girl move? Like?

914
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh, none of my stuff's moves quick. See so revision

915
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: you see something weak? Okay, that's crazy revision. But that's

916
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: every in my head is like that was a quick

917
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: one because it's because it's lasted.

918
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: Because now it's still what they would call like a recurrent,

919
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 3: like it still gets played because it's still one.

920
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: Of our biggest songs. That's which is crazy to me.

921
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: So in my mind, I didn't live in the forest,

922
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: which you did. In my mind, I was like, yeah, dude,

923
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: dump with that song out. Twenty weeks later, number one

924
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: went on to the next one.

925
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: That ain't what happened.

926
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: No, every one of my singles are they're slow, but

927
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: there's here's what.

928
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: Happens with with my stuff.

929
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: It's every single, every single one of them.

930
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: It takes forever to get.

931
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: To the twenties top thirty, forever, but once it gets

932
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: to top thirty in the twenties super quick.

933
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: There's a real marsh about forty five to thirty. It's

934
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: hard to fight through that marsh. Yes, because there's a

935
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: lot of songs, a lot from a lot of artists

936
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: that are just trying to, like you say, break into

937
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: that because then you get what they would call research.

938
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not a music director. I'm not a music guy.

939
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: Every once in while I play something I like, but

940
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: I got out of that world and I just do

941
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: content at this point. But when I was in that space,

942
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: like if you could get to what you're talking about,

943
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that, because then they would have research,

944
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: and then once you got some good research, they freaking

945
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: shoot you like a rocket ship. It was just so

946
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: hard to get from that forty five to twenty eight area. Yep,

947
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: when you hit top twenty five, I did feel like

948
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: the horse was moving a little bit. Oh it was flying,

949
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: yeah every time, Like every week it was like bullet moving.

950
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time.

951
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: And it's just blowing up and they're coming back like, oh,

952
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: research is showing number one song on our market or

953
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: number top five or whatever, like yeah, you know, And

954
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: but I mean, knock on wood. I mean, hopefully we're fixing.

955
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: We're fixing our six number one. And I mean it's

956
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: been the same way and nothing's changed, and I don't

957
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: hold I mean, at this point, I understand the business

958
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: a lot better and I don't stress about that anymore either,

959
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Like it just is what it is. Like we're having fun.

960
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: Everything else is good. And you've got other avenues now too.

961
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's radio and it's streaming and it's

962
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: out playing your shows and building a fan base.

963
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 2: Like everything is good.

964
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: So I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love

965
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: to have a single that moved twenty five.

966
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: You way healthier. You're way healthier than I have.

967
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: And hear you talk and I like, I wish I

968
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: had a little bit of that, Like, because here's why

969
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: I be frustrated.

970
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to trigger you. Here's why I be frustrated.

971
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: And I feel like there are two artists that suffer

972
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: and let me go ahead and spoiler, you're one of

973
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: them that suffer from not getting the benefit of having

974
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: big success because other people have two or three songs,

975
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's like, we'll get him

976
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: to the marsh pretty quick.

977
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: We'll get the research a lot quicker because we just

978
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: know that.

979
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: So there have been artists with less that have been

980
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: given bigger benefits. And the two artists that I go,

981
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: they make hits. It's crazy they don't get that, is

982
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: you for sure? Because again, you're about to do You're

983
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: about to do six after three. They got to be like,

984
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: why don't we just you know, look at the past,

985
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: and Dylan's been able to crush it and then let's okay,

986
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: let's listen to the song doesn't suck, no, okay, and

987
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: he's able to crush it and all the other things

988
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: I've researched well, So I get frustrated, not for you personally,

989
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: because it's not like you and I hang out, so

990
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't like his friends, know, but as somebody who

991
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: is a creative himself. I get frustrated for you in

992
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: that way. And there's one other person. Can you name

993
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: the other person? Not person, a group, A group, Yeah,

994
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, parmly, parmally, Yeah, it's and nobody nobody

995
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: goes let's just they've done it four or five times.

996
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would.

997
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: They should be able to get that that benefit of

998
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: the doubt to at least get up into like the

999
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: twenties without having some massive research because everything else has research.

1000
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: It's like, you're crap, you're healthy. Good for you. I'd

1001
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: be going freaking crazy.

1002
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I still do I want to trigger you, See,

1003
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1004
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to trigger. You're not trigger going to look.

1005
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: I guess I've just, like I said earlier, having kids.

1006
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: Now maybe it's just getting older. It's uh, other things

1007
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: going on in my life as well. I mean, we

1008
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: can get to this, but I mean I've I've got

1009
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: a trash business in Louisiana that I deal with every

1010
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: day with a body of mine, my business partner. It's

1011
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: like I just have other things in life or worry about.

1012
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: But I reached a point of life where there's a

1013
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: lot of things that's just out of my control.

1014
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: Like I can't control that. I can't.

1015
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: I can be the nicest dude, I can be the

1016
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: most outgoing person I could. There's so much I could

1017
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: do that's still it's not gonna matter. I can't control

1018
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 1: how quick something moves or you know whatever. The only

1019
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: thing I can control is writing the music, putting out

1020
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: the best music I can my social media and showing

1021
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: my life and gaining and gaining fans and playing shows

1022
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: and playing the best show I can. That's all I

1023
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: really can do. I can't make a single move faster.

1024
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 3: Well, I get a little pis for you if you

1025
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: want to know, well, I appreciate that. And mostly, and

1026
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: I say this in the most complimentary way, it's not

1027
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: even about you. It's about you and what this data

1028
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: has shown. Because it's always a gadagadaganna.

1029
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: Well, numbers don't lie.

1030
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: Sure, then since they don't lie, then why don't we

1031
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 3: you those numbers? And there's a couple people that aren't

1032
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: getting the benefit of the numbers, and you're to me,

1033
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 3: you're one of those who if we're going to use data,

1034
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: if we're going to say A, B and C, get

1035
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: it because of this. Well here's d who's done more

1036
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: than that, has better data, and you guys are just

1037
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: like holding holding them back waiting again anyway. No, we're

1038
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: moving off because I get but.

1039
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: It's more to it than even trash business. I need

1040
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: trash business. Yeah, I'm not talking about ready on all

1041
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah. Award shows, man, that's right. What my

1042
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: freaking head is playing them being a presenter. I know

1043
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: you can get back. I don't want to put you nominated.

1044
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: You know. That's why.

1045
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: Once again it's like, do I still get aggravated about

1046
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: that stuff? No doubt you think I want to sit

1047
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: at home on the couch with I mean, because I

1048
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: do this my little boy right here watching the award

1049
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: show and not being there, Like no, I want to

1050
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: be there. But I promise you I'm not fixing a

1051
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: go just walk a red carpet because I want people

1052
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: to go look at me, look at me, like that's

1053
00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: not who I am.

1054
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: So I just don't Oh.

1055
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: Dude, same now, I don't. I want no offense to

1056
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: the color red or carpets.

1057
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: Love them both. Yeah, I don't do them anymore. I

1058
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: want to host.

1059
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: I have every credential to host these shows, meaning I

1060
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: just had a comedy special on CMT, I've been touring

1061
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: stand up.

1062
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: I have massive platform.

1063
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: I have had four TV shows, Like everything about it

1064
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 3: right has been. There is no way that I shouldn't

1065
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: have hosted one of these award shows, the one the

1066
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: I won't say which one one. I tend to get

1067
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: triggered quickly with you don't I need a trash business?

1068
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: Uh.

1069
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: I got a call a couple of years ago like hey,

1070
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: we want you to host the big, big one, and

1071
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, finally, Like there's nothing more that I could do,

1072
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: data wise, and I've trained in every way, like on

1073
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: the road doing stand up all the time. It doesn't matter.

1074
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: I even wrote jokes for one of the award shows.

1075
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: No credit wrote jokes. I swear to god, they stole

1076
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: them and used them and never credit to me. But

1077
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: I was like, so anyway, they call them, they go, hey,

1078
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: I want you to host.

1079
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: The show, and I'm like, finally, let's go.

1080
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: And like three days before they were announcing it, they

1081
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: call and go, hey, we've had some we'll call them

1082
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: political issues.

1083
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 2: You can't we can't let you host it. Devastated and from.

1084
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, I'm not going. I'm not presenting anymore.

1085
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm not doing red carpets because I don't want to

1086
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: do that. I want to do that, and I try

1087
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: to not get angry. But I don't have a son

1088
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: to put on my lap, so I put a bulldog

1089
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: on my lap.

1090
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: But he don't care. Didn't know award show is, so

1091
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: it's worse. But you're yeah, I'm sure, yeah. I mean

1092
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 2: he doesn't know what the TV is. He just thinks

1093
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: a box of color. Because as an artist, man, it's

1094
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: like you see all these.

1095
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Other once again you get back to looking at other people,

1096
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: which I don't really get into that anymore, but you

1097
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: do a little bit and you see and it's like, man,

1098
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: why why can't I Why can't I walk out on

1099
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: the stage and go in the winter is or whatever?

1100
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: You know, just something.

1101
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: It's funny we said at war shows at the same time,

1102
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: because I think about that with you. Yeah, that's how

1103
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: you know I'm not lying, because right when you said that,

1104
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: I was also talking about a ward shows for you,

1105
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: because I'm like, how do you not play a ward shows?

1106
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: You know?

1107
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: But you know it all boils down to a lot

1108
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: of things. That's the way it's political show. Yeah, I

1109
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: mean just you know, could it be well, I'm not

1110
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: going to.

1111
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: Get into that. I don't want you to do. I'm

1112
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: moving off. It's all good.

1113
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: What's your favorite candy tag? There you go, New Truck,

1114
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: different kind of energy to the song.

1115
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of your stuff is super personal.

1116
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 2: Feels like that way to me.

1117
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I just see your social media you and that's

1118
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: very personal. So a lot of what you do feels personal.

1119
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 3: New Truck feels I don't know, like up fun. Not

1120
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: that it's not personal, but I feel like it doesn't

1121
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: try to be as personal on purpose.

1122
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: Is that true or no?

1123
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: New Truck was I guess the point of me going, man,

1124
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I got a lot of love songs here, and they work.

1125
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: The love songs work for me.

1126
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Just because of my life and how I live it

1127
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: and what I do.

1128
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: Show on social media.

1129
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't want to back myself

1130
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: into the love song corner where I'm just out playing

1131
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of love songs. So I had to do

1132
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: something different which New Truck. That's when I kind of

1133
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: shifted that corner.

1134
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, it just felt good. It was

1135
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: up tempo, up tempo breakup song. It was kind of cool.

1136
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: And so since then, since New Truck, I mean we

1137
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: did have can't have mine, but even like this town's

1138
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: been too good to us.

1139
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: Our single now.

1140
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: It's you know, the songs crushing, Yeah, I mean yeah,

1141
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: it's doing well.

1142
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: You know what, how do we strategize this?

1143
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 3: I want you to present an award shope, I want

1144
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: you to play on an award show. But okay, if

1145
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: you want to crawl before you walk? Fine, what do

1146
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: we do? Not even by me about you?

1147
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: What do we do? Who's your who's your agent? Like,

1148
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: don't say a person? Who's your company? As far as

1149
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: my booking management?

1150
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: No? Not an agent first, like I'm a uta William

1151
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: Moore's okay, who's your management?

1152
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Kpe? Oh yeah sure she'll cut somebody's throat, oh no doubt. Yeah.

1153
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: I need to call Carrie and be like, what do

1154
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 3: you want? How do you want me to plaster this?

1155
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: Because I'll get annoyed with something and I will just

1156
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: beat it to oblivion where people want to kill me

1157
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: and then I know I've done it right. Yeah, Like

1158
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 3: even just hanging out with you, I'm re annoyed for you.

1159
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to be re annoyed.

1160
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: No, I know I don't have to be, but I

1161
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 3: think I am because I maybe because I'm so selfish.

1162
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: I see me and you and you and me, and

1163
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: that we're both like, what the crap, man, We've done

1164
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: everything freaking possible. But like I'm kind of just working

1165
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: on it. Like after today, I'm working on it.

1166
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: You know.

1167
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: You hear people going, oh, we're bitter or we're jaded

1168
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: to the business.

1169
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not bitter or jaded. I'm not bitter one bit.

1170
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: Like I love everything about everybody. What's going on, this

1171
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: is great, you know, so, but I don't know, man,

1172
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I just once again got to.

1173
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: The point where it's like I'm texting carry.

1174
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't need only an award. I don't need a trophy,

1175
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, dude, we are selling shows out

1176
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: across this country, you know, every night, tons of fans

1177
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: showing up, people know the music, everything's going well. You know,

1178
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: It's just we know how the business works sometimes and

1179
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: we know by winning an award is a good look

1180
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: and it can move the needle on things, but it ain't.

1181
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say. I'm just look,

1182
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: I've never had the industry just go hey, let's go

1183
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: do this. You know, like I'm not on all the

1184
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: big what do you call it, like social media platforms.

1185
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: They're not talking about me, they're not doing this, they're

1186
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: not doing that.

1187
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: But you also have a big social media falling. So

1188
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: it's like you've built a base, a massive base. It's

1189
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a dichotomy for sure, because you're like,

1190
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: I don't have ever been like he's the coolest, he's

1191
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: the trendy, yes something, Yet you have a massive following

1192
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 3: that you have built your own.

1193
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just wonder if my life's just not as

1194
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: interesting as others, you know, like I'm not the guy

1195
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: that's out man, I'm not out there partying making a scene.

1196
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: I think that question is wrong. I think it's not.

1197
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: Am I not as interesting? Because I think you are

1198
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: very interesting because again, just look at data, look at

1199
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 3: your numbers, look your follow it, look at your white

1200
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: look at what you guys do. Right, You're consistently interesting

1201
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 3: to a lot of people. I think some of that

1202
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: quick flash that doesn't last, that's not there, but that's

1203
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 3: not what you're trying to do. But you can't say,

1204
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 3: am I not interesting? Because dude, people talk more about

1205
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: what you're doing on social media because that stuff always changes,

1206
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: like a song exists for like you said, it took

1207
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: a year for a song to be number one, Like

1208
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: people talk about your social media. I hear people to

1209
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: talking about it randomly, So wrong question to ask.

1210
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the question is, Like I

1211
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: don't know what. I don't know what it.

1212
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: Is, but yeah, I just text your manager and I'm like,

1213
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: tell me what to do, tell me what to do

1214
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: because that's no.

1215
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: But when I ask her, I mean business, Yeah she knows.

1216
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean business. I just wonder.

1217
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, man, like our stream, like my next

1218
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: single I'm putting out at radio, you know yet what

1219
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: it's called, what I'll never have? I mean, it's got

1220
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: over two hundred million streams already and it's not even

1221
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: it's a year this month it's been out. I mean

1222
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: it's one hundred and fifty of those on me and

1223
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: on just Spotify, you know. So it's like, man, Sometimes

1224
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: I go, dude, if we if we had some of

1225
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: the industry push, like the award shows, and we's in

1226
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: that light a little bit or on these platforms on

1227
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: social media. Wonder what it be then, you know, because

1228
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: there's a huge fan base we haven't tapped into yet.

1229
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: I've been on one major tour, one major tour the

1230
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: whole time I've been in town, which one was that

1231
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Luke Bryn.

1232
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: And you know what is awesome but also sucks about

1233
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: that awesome because I love Luke. Luke and I are friends.

1234
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 3: We worked together four years outside of this place, worked

1235
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: in idle for four years, and so I know Carrie.

1236
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 3: So Carrie once got in a fight for me against

1237
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: a big Hollywood person once and it was the most

1238
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: legit thing I've ever seen where I was like, she'll

1239
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: take a box cutter to some And Carrie's is not

1240
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: my manager. But I love Carrie and she has like

1241
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: she I could tell you off air, she went hard

1242
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: at somebody.

1243
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: For me, what's awesome is Luke's awesome. But what is

1244
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: I hate doing this?

1245
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: I hate I don't know, I'm drigging, but I'm mad

1246
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 3: for you. But Luke is Carrie's your manager and she

1247
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 3: has the ability to go.

1248
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, or tray of cereal.

1249
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: I had frosted flakes this morning, probably Cinnemente's crunch.

1250
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: Let's let's do some I don't want to be frustrated

1251
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: for you anymore.

1252
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 5: Okay, so let's take a quick pause for a message

1253
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 5: from our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1254
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: This town's been uhe you had two good. I was

1255
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: doing the countdown this morning and it's five, I believe you. Yeah,

1256
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 3: has that one? That one feels like it's moved a

1257
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: little faster? Or is it that one was moving with

1258
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: the other one with you and the other Dylan, And

1259
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 3: it just feels like you've, like you biquitous Dylan?

1260
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: Is that Do you think that's what that one is? Yeah? Okay, yeah, this.

1261
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 3: One feels like you've been around more. But it's because

1262
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 3: you had two at once.

1263
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all it is. It's still just as long.

1264
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: What how did you guys do? The moment? Was up

1265
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 2: with that song Boys back Home? Yeah? Yeah, Dylan.

1266
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: I took Dylan out on his first tour a couple

1267
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: of years ago and we just hit it off. He's

1268
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: just he's a good one. He's just a good old

1269
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: boy and he's a good performer. He's a good singer.

1270
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: And he was playing me that song, played me Boys

1271
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: back Home, and I just told him, I said, man,

1272
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: and he played me. He played me like five or

1273
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: six and boys wasn't like the one he was fired

1274
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: up about. It was another one was like a slower song,

1275
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: and it was great. But in my mind, I was

1276
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: like the wheels already turning, like I never had anybody

1277
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: go hey, dude, come on, let's let's do something together.

1278
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's do a song. Let's blah blah blah blah.

1279
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: And I told myself early on, I was like, I

1280
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: will if I believe in somebody, and I like somebody,

1281
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to help them, whether they've had a single,

1282
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: whether they're on a record label, I don't care. Like,

1283
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: if I can help somebody, like, I'm all for it.

1284
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: Do you think a part of that is? One?

1285
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: I think your solid, dude, but two, because it'd been

1286
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: nice if somebody would have jumped in with you like that.

1287
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'd been cool.

1288
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, a young kid in town, like I go

1289
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: back to that kid and I'm like, man, it would

1290
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: have been so cool if and it's nobody's fault.

1291
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: It's just the way it played out.

1292
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: But I just told myself, like, man, I want to

1293
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: I want to be that guy if I can, you know,

1294
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: like be a bigger brother to somebody. And he played

1295
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: me Boys back Home and it was up tempo, and

1296
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: I just loved how it felt and it felt like

1297
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: a great collab and I went in and put my

1298
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: vocal on it. The next week, he'd have a record deal,

1299
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: and I remember taking it, yeah, and I remember taking

1300
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: it to Curb and I said, uh, said, hey, listen

1301
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: to this, like we need we need to put this out,

1302
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: and they were like they were playing the whole game

1303
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: of like, guys, you don't have a record deal. Well,

1304
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: as soon as he gets a record deal, I took

1305
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: it back to him and they were on board to

1306
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: do and whatnot. But yeah, man, I'm just glad it

1307
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: worked out the way.

1308
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: Dude.

1309
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: Let me use another piece of data here. As far

1310
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: as like getting radio player, there were only three artists

1311
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: that had more than you over the last year. It

1312
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: was Jelly Rowl, Morgan Wallen, don't tell me the other

1313
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: one post line that's it, and you fourth.

1314
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: I've been hearing some stats like this. I don't keep

1315
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: up with the stats stuff. But I've been hearing a

1316
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: couple of stats here lately, and I'm just like, it's

1317
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of interesting, you know.

1318
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like at times like my podcast

1319
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: numbers are monster, right, I mean not as in you know,

1320
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: but like they're monster. And I feel at times, and

1321
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: I'll put it on me that maybe I don't educate

1322
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 3: people enough.

1323
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: To know.

1324
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: The capabilities that I have and the platform that I've

1325
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: created in it. I will put some of it on

1326
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: me as well, meaning everyone's like, we need to find

1327
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: this person pot this podcast, and it's like your radio

1328
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: show is big, and I'm like, you have no idea,

1329
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: you should look at the podcast numbers, and so a

1330
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: bit I do put it on me too, where it's

1331
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: like I think I could educate people. It's tough, though,

1332
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: to educate and not sound freaking cocky as crap. Sure,

1333
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: there's a difference in confidence and arrogance, and I bounce

1334
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: back and forth. There's no real way to walk that

1335
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: and that it's a tough thing to do. But if

1336
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 3: you were to, you can't really wear a shirt that

1337
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: says that, hey, yeah, only three people are beating me

1338
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: and it's post malone jelly. But yeah, it's that's the

1339
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: that's the trick, Like, how do you educate folks so

1340
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: they understand exactly what they're not seeing?

1341
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, I don't know how I do it,

1342
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, without being cocky.

1343
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: And that's that's unluckily too.

1344
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: You know I have a great accounts Yeah, I have

1345
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: a great team around me as far as label and

1346
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: management and my agents. Like I just it's kind of

1347
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: their their job and they're laying to go make that happen.

1348
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, I can't. I mean, I don't even know

1349
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: where I who would even who would I even talk to?

1350
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: Hey man, I was the or girl, I was the

1351
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: fourth blah blah blah blah without, like you said, sounding cocky,

1352
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: I just started it.

1353
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a little bit right there. Uh.

1354
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 3: This podcast is a rather large podcast, and I know

1355
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: there are a lot of industry people that listen to

1356
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: this podcast would just like to say it's like a

1357
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: political add The guy's killing it. It's not even that

1358
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: I need to convince you he's good. Be like, trust me,

1359
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: if you don't have to dig, if you just just

1360
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: go to his page, just go to one of the

1361
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: streaming sites page, go to Spotify to look at the

1362
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: numbers beside him.

1363
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: Look at the number of hits that are radio hits.

1364
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: Look at a social media the fact that he's not

1365
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 3: even presenting on an award show. You guys messing up.

1366
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: So I'm encouraging you vote. Vote for Dylan Scott.

1367
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: And this ad is brought to you by box Water

1368
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: is better. Well, I wish you I had to deal

1369
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: with them, that would be nice. Oh. I have a

1370
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: deal with the environment though, that's why we use this.

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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: There you go.

1372
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: They don't pay me though, and I'll never actually see it.

1373
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: I'll be dead before it actually pays off. Yeah, that

1374
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: show biz though part of it. Yeah. Uh, man, good

1375
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: job hanging there. I'm talking to me and you at

1376
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: the same time. I'm talking to me, but you're here too.

1377
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: A good job, man, hanging there.

1378
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: You can do it. You're killing it. You're killing it. Oh,

1379
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: it's all good on this end, man, how and everybody

1380
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: Holme's good.

1381
01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: Family's good, family's great kids, great Beckett starting baseball practicing

1382
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: right now, he's killing it.

1383
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: I didn't play baseball growing up. I wish I did.

1384
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: My dad was the type. He was like, sure, you

1385
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: want to waste your whole summer.

1386
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: In other words, I really don't want you to play

1387
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: played basketball. So I'm loving the baseball phase with Beacon.

1388
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: He's really good. I'm not saying it because he's my kid.

1389
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,479
Speaker 1: Like he's really gravitating towards it and it's fun.

1390
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: You put a little weights in their hands. No, what

1391
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: does that do? I don't know. You're jacked.

1392
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, I haven't worked out since July. I haven't

1393
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: lifted a weight since July. If this is residual, come

1394
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: me in.

1395
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: I'd like some. I lost like ten pounds. Why would

1396
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: you get sick?

1397
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: No, I just I've worked out my whole life almost

1398
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: like you know, like eighteen almost every day religiously. I

1399
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: did the deal, and I just kind of got burnt out.

1400
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: And so it was a busy summer. Was on the

1401
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: road a lot. I'm always a wake up after a

1402
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: couple hours. He I'll go to a gym somewhere randomly.

1403
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: And I just had a lot going on. Stressed, not

1404
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: stressed about like I'm stressed out because something happened, just

1405
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Your body stressed, and it's like

1406
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: I need to take a break. And I wanted to

1407
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: take a break just to see what my body would

1408
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: do because I'm thirty four now, like my metabolism slowing down?

1409
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: I am I gonna get fat? Like what's gonna happen?

1410
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: And it's been great honestly.

1411
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, not too. U don't to worry of bragging about that,

1412
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: are you? Yeah? Yeah, it's still good. Yeah.

1413
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I went and got a fit full physical

1414
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 3: like all panels.

1415
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: All the blood, all had that done last week. Did

1416
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: you your results back? I did. I got them met

1417
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: a block age of twenty eight year old. Come on now,

1418
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: they didn't tell me all that because you don't.

1419
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: That's why they said everything is excellent.

1420
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: I said, okay. They said, but you're cholesterol and I'm like,

1421
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: uh oh, I got a little colesterol too.

1422
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: But you know what I didn't do. I didn't know

1423
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: not to eat before I did it.

1424
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: My crystal cholesterol is low. Oh really yeah, not high,

1425
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: it's low. They told me that. How do is it

1426
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: too low? I don't.

1427
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: They said, eat more red meat, more fat, They said,

1428
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: eat worse, eat more, eat worse.

1429
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: I need your doctor. He's a good one. I need

1430
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: your doctor. He ain't just your doctor. You down the road.

1431
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: That's just like okay, yeah.

1432
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: He's out of Dallas. You have a concert. Oh okay,

1433
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: you stay up a concierge doctor. I don't know what

1434
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: that is, dude, I don't either, until so they come

1435
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 2: to you.

1436
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 3: So I'll be traveling so much. Right, come go to

1437
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: the office, you wait and whatever.

1438
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1439
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: And so my friend Brett was he's an art traveling artist.

1440
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: He's like, you should get concierge doctor one. You can

1441
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 3: call him anytime you're on the road. You're sick, you

1442
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: god forbid, I have to take a steroid shot and

1443
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: my voice is gone. But sometimes you have to. He's like,

1444
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: they got you. And then yeah, anytime they come to you.

1445
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a little expensive, but like for jobs

1446
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: job like I have, it's convenience.

1447
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It pays for itself.

1448
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe he just told me I was twenty

1449
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: because I pay extra. I and thinking about that till

1450
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: right now, like you know, but uh he my cholesterol

1451
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 3: was high and.

1452
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 2: I just a little bit. And I was like, why

1453
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 2: do you think that is? He said, before you came

1454
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: in to do your work, when was the last time

1455
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: you ate?

1456
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know. An hour before some eggs.

1457
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: He goes, you got a fast for twelve hours? He

1458
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: goes you're eating chocolate whenever. Before we started, I was like.

1459
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

1460
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: It's a good point, and so I think mine could

1461
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: be normal. Probably is, but it definitely ain't low. Uh, dude,

1462
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: it's been so good to talk with you.

1463
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here, Thanks for having me.

1464
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: Just a couple of things. I know we mentioned some

1465
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: of this early on. So the Country Till I Die tour,

1466
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: it's a lot of shows.

1467
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: It threw abel. Oh, George is out with you. Yeah,

1468
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: George's direct support. He got good.

1469
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird, Yeah, because he was always he was

1470
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 3: always good, and he was and I take him out

1471
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: and he'd opened shows and George is good, but like

1472
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: he he had and you know this, you know I

1473
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: work on't you get some confidence? It opens new doors

1474
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: to you. He's like freaking good. Now it's weird. Like

1475
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 3: I found him a pickleball and then I watch him

1476
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: play and I'm like, dude, you like.

1477
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: You got a couple of hit confidence there.

1478
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: He's been doing a long time though he hasn't been

1479
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: doing a long was the group before Oh this Daughterloo

1480
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: Waterloo Revival and so what's wild about this?

1481
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: I knew George.

1482
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: I forget the other guy's name. I knew them back

1483
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 1: in those days. He's doing radio tour stuff together. And

1484
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: then I didn't see George for a while, and then

1485
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 1: I ran into him and I almost didn't recognize him

1486
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: without the group, you know, And when it clicked finally,

1487
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this is really cool. He's doing what

1488
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: he's doing and it's working and quit is that what happened?

1489
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: He was just writing.

1490
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm just gonna write, and then you

1491
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: put a song. Clay Walker was like, hey, you should

1492
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 3: put that song on TikTok and he's like, I want

1493
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 3: to be a TikTok guy, and which is what everybody

1494
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: says before they realize if you do it right, it's

1495
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: not corny.

1496
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a difference. There's corny, there's.

1497
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: Corny and then there and you gotta be corny sometimes, but.

1498
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: There's also not corny. And so we put it up,

1499
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: started to get a little little heat. Next thing, you know,

1500
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: he's like, I guess I'll try it. And it's been awesome.

1501
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: And there's a fine line of being an influencer as well.

1502
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: Wait for somebody tell me to you right now?

1503
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: What no use my promo code?

1504
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: I think Amy called me an influencer. I'm like, I'm

1505
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: not an influencer, man, Like, we ain't got to. I

1506
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: walked out of a Slim Chickens the other day and

1507
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: this girl was walking in and she goes, you're that

1508
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: TikTok guy. I said, no, I'm not. I just kept walking.

1509
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: I never told her anything else, never spoken other words

1510
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: like no, I'm not.

1511
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: My TikTok, but I'm not the TikTok guy. Yes, fine line.

1512
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 3: Dylanscott Country dot Com and April through you know, mid May,

1513
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: doing a bunch of affairs and festivals and yeah, man,

1514
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: congrats on another song that's about to be a number one.

1515
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: I looked at some research. Yeah, I'm sure you've seen

1516
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Speaker 3: it's it's there. You guys probably potting it out at

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: this point, right, it's pretty planned. We're just in line here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 2: When this comes out, I Hate Whiskey will be out. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it comes out then the March. Yeah yeah, So what's

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: what are you doing with that? You're just is it existing? Yeah?

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01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean I Hate Whiskey?

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01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: Was that it's one of those songs I've had for

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01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: a while and it's it's such a great song, Like.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be the single, but then again, what

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Speaker 2: will Never Have?

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't write I Hate Whiskey. I did

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Speaker 1: write what Will Never Happen. I was like, I don't

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: know about what I'll Never Have because it's been out

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Speaker 1: for a year. But I just can't really deny the

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: numbers on it. But that's a fine line, man. You

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01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: take somebody's song that you didn't write and it's not

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01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,839
Speaker 1: a radio single, it's just a DSP, just a streaming release,

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Speaker 1: and you know, there's not a lot of money being

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Speaker 1: made there, but it could also really help me as

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Speaker 1: an artist. But it doesn't make the writers any money.

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Speaker 1: It's like, that's a super I don't know, man, that's

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: a that's a topic on my mind every day as

1540
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Speaker 1: far as when I'm looking at music, you know, because

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Speaker 1: I'm a boy.

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Speaker 2: I just, man, it's such a great song.

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Speaker 1: It deserves to be a single, you know, it deserves

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: to make these writers money. And like, you know, if

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Speaker 1: it goes and does one hundred and fifty million streams,

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01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: two hundred million streams, whatever, it does not add up

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: to what it is a single, and you just gotta

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Speaker 1: feel bad about it.

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Speaker 3: But well, but y'all hit one, this one hits in

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Speaker 3: three and a half years, when your next one comes out,

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Speaker 3: well that's.

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Speaker 2: That's another thing. You're still gonna be a single. You

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Speaker 2: never know, all right at Dylan Scott Country. Dylan, good

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about it.

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Speaker 5: You too, Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production