Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: We're going to start the show mad at Easton. How's
Speaker 2: that sound?
Speaker 3: I'm mad at you Easton, You're mad at me?
Speaker 2: I am guys, this is the wine Down pot.
Speaker 3: I'm like really mad. I like how to well it
Speaker 3: was Jana's idea, but Jana had a really good idea
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, and then they mentioned, oh,
Speaker 3: Easton could come, he should come out to Wilmington and help.
Speaker 4: But no, ohday, It's yeah, it's my damn birthday.
Speaker 1: Selfish of you?
Speaker 3: Selfish. I didn't want to come to Tree Hill.
Speaker 2: Do you do you have a thing against One Tree Hill?
Speaker 4: I love One Tree Hill and I love It's true.
Speaker 4: I love, I love the city of Wilmington. I loved
Speaker 4: my two days I spent there, and that was the
Speaker 4: last flight I took before the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Tell me here, tell me your favorite thing about One
Speaker 2: Tree Hill.
Speaker 4: My favorite thing about One Tree Hill definitely uh uh.
Speaker 4: I love the character of Alex Duprey.
Speaker 2: You've never seen it.
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 3: I like that the show.
Speaker 4: I love I love the basketball aspect. I love everything
Speaker 4: that happens at Trick. I love uh uh. All the
Speaker 4: great role models in the show.
Speaker 3: What was your favorite Alex Duprey scene?
Speaker 4: Go the definitely the one where she where she models
Speaker 4: the clothes over bros.
Speaker 2: Okay, you did watch that's a that's a good one.
Speaker 2: The day you sang on there, I.
Speaker 4: Have a clothes over bros shirt Jana that I wear
Speaker 4: with regularity.
Speaker 5: Really with regular Yes, you know who.
Speaker 2: I was so surprised that was a wonder Hill fan
Speaker 2: was Jimmy Allen When I didn't know that, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was just like, I remember the first time meeting him,
Speaker 2: he called me Alex Duprey and I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm so confused.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of people are closet.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just found out that my best friend
Speaker 2: was a massive tree Hiller. Matt An, I'm sorry what
Speaker 2: I thought you liked me for me? Catherine to.
Speaker 4: The House of At the House of Blues, Anaheim, You're performing,
Speaker 4: and you know, everyone's going crazy because it's a Janet
Speaker 4: Creamer show, and then like in the middle you're like,
Speaker 4: where am my one tree Hiller's at And the place
Speaker 4: started vibring. It was I've never heard an audience reaction
Speaker 4: like that before.
Speaker 2: I know tree Hillers are like the greatest people in
Speaker 2: the world. But we're trying to do a podcast in
Speaker 2: The problem is is I'm going to Ireland, and then
Speaker 2: I got some travel, and then I was going to
Speaker 2: I'm going to a wonder Hill convention. So we were
Speaker 2: trying to do like a live not live, but recording
Speaker 2: from there. But it's just Easton. Everyone can just write
Speaker 2: to Easton and just say that they're just disappointed in
Speaker 2: Easton on his birthday. What are you and your wife.
Speaker 5: Going to do? I don't know, but I don't. We
Speaker 5: have a low plans, but I didn't want to like
Speaker 5: not be with her.
Speaker 2: I'm so kidding. I'm We're literally just giving you a
Speaker 2: hard time. I'm not really excited for you. And when
Speaker 2: I got I got probably a big one, right, it's
Speaker 2: a big forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, is he like twenty? Thanks?
Speaker 4: I love Yes, I am twenty. I am twenty years old.
Speaker 4: You know, you know thirty fourth, the thirty fourth year
Speaker 4: is a big year.
Speaker 5: It's a big deal. Everyone remembers their thirty fourth birthday.
Speaker 5: It's a big one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would take that over Wilmington too, for sure.
Speaker 4: My heart broke when I got the call because I
Speaker 4: was like, if this was any other day, I would
Speaker 4: jump at this opportunity. You know, if it was my
Speaker 4: wedding anniversary, I would have gone. But oh my god,
Speaker 4: that's a joke. No, But I'm very sad I won't
Speaker 4: be able to be there because I do love the
Speaker 4: city of Wilmington, uh and I love One Tree Hill
Speaker 4: and I most importantly though, I just love.
Speaker 5: Hanging out with Janet.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 5: You know, well any moment I can get to be
Speaker 5: with you in personal.
Speaker 2: Page sure, which I want to talk about in a second,
Speaker 2: but I just want to say that today is a
Speaker 2: special Filo bonus episode. We love Filo all the channels
Speaker 2: that we can get, and you can watch a Filo
Speaker 2: today to see Jenny Garth in a kind hearted Christmas.
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Speaker 2: back on because the last time we hung out was
Speaker 2: in Vegas and we never talked about it when we gambled.
Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, my high roller moment.
Speaker 2: No fun so completely it was we were why were
Speaker 2: we there over the iHeart Festival? Yeah, And I asked Easton,
Speaker 2: it was amazing, beautiful wife to come gamble with us
Speaker 2: and so and you guys, you thought we were just
Speaker 2: going to go to like the slow we're not big gamblers.
Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, I think we're gonna and
Speaker 4: I didn't know about you know what a high roller
Speaker 4: you are, so we're just gonna we're well, no, we
Speaker 4: we thought it was gonna make slots and stuff. When
Speaker 4: we get down there and Jane is like, we're playing blackjack,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, geez, I don't know how to
Speaker 4: last I played this game.
Speaker 5: I got yelled at by an old man like I
Speaker 5: don't I don't know how.
Speaker 4: To do this, but wow, what an experience that was.
Speaker 5: Sits down at the table.
Speaker 2: So he sits down at the table, sit.
Speaker 5: Down the table.
Speaker 4: I think we put down forty dollars because that was
Speaker 4: what I had in my pocket. And uh, we you know,
Speaker 4: Jana tells us what to do because she's like, okay,
Speaker 4: you got it. You gotta stay when when to hit?
Speaker 4: I learned the little hand motions you tap the table.
Speaker 4: You know, yea, you shake your hand when it's time
Speaker 4: to stay, and uh, you know, it's fun. We I
Speaker 4: will say, we lose almost all of our money, like
Speaker 4: in the first few hands. Then Jana, my guardian angel,
Speaker 4: she gives me ten dollars to keep playing, and and
Speaker 4: then that's when they's turned around. Then oh man, we
Speaker 4: were just winning, baby, We're like at one point some
Speaker 4: friends of mine came by to say hi, and I
Speaker 4: turned my back, and then I came back and like
Speaker 4: the money had tripled.
Speaker 5: It was just a giant pile of chips. I could.
Speaker 5: We won like two hundred dollars at the end of it.
Speaker 5: It was awesome.
Speaker 2: I know, it was so cute. It was so fun
Speaker 2: to sit there and play. I mean, I love black Jacket.
Speaker 2: I think it's so much fun, especially when there's a
Speaker 2: good person.
Speaker 3: Like we had a terrible dealer that night, but we
Speaker 3: had the other two men at the table that were amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's so so fun.
Speaker 3: So that made it better. And then they helped us
Speaker 3: and stay.
Speaker 2: Or bottom line is we like to hang out with
Speaker 2: you to Easton, so.
Speaker 5: Oh thank you. That really was a special moment.
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't believe I'm getting all this
Speaker 4: money and I get to hang out with Jana and Catherine.
Speaker 5: This is so much fun.
Speaker 3: You like hanging out with me?
Speaker 1: To Easton?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 7: I do?
Speaker 5: I felt like I hit the jackpile.
Speaker 2: Oh but I'm want Hey, Mark, you want to come
Speaker 2: to Wilmington.
Speaker 3: Oh no, Dad, Dad, I.
Speaker 7: Promise I'm not nearly as fun as Easton to hang
Speaker 7: out with. Enjoyable. I'm back.
Speaker 3: Oh did you get COVID?
Speaker 7: No? No, No, Everything's fine. Some days I'm in, some
Speaker 7: days I'm gonna keeping.
Speaker 3: One day in. You got COVID?
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So we have Jenny Garth coming on. I'm excited
Speaker 2: to talk to them about Christmas. What are you looking
Speaker 2: forward to Christmas? Mark?
Speaker 7: I am looking forward to going to Hawaii.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 7: I've never been to Hawaii before. This was an idea
Speaker 7: that came last Christmas. We were in Big Bear because
Speaker 7: it was the first Christmas we couldn't go to Wisconsin.
Speaker 7: It'd been you know, our kids have never not spent
Speaker 7: Christmas in Wisconsin with the grandparents. So my brother in law,
Speaker 7: who is a mailman, said, I am off the week
Speaker 7: of Christmas and New Year. In twenty one I'm never
Speaker 7: off Christmas and New Year. I may never again be
Speaker 7: off Christmas in New Year. Let's go to Hawaii. So
Speaker 7: we got it all planned out. We're going to Owaihu
Speaker 7: Is that where Honolulu is?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've only been to Kawai and Maui.
Speaker 2: I recommend and taking a little plane if you have
Speaker 2: time to go to Kauai because it's.
Speaker 7: Well, we're doing two weeks there, so we may have time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Kawhi is beautiful, and then Maui is it's
Speaker 2: kind of like la. But the road to Hanna is stunning.
Speaker 2: So if you have a chance to do that too, great.
Speaker 2: But I've never been to Wahu. You all tell tell
Speaker 2: us how.
Speaker 7: Very excited we're flying in Honolulu. There's this really cool
Speaker 7: like resort where, like you know, presidents stay and that's
Speaker 7: where our ABNB is right near that. So yeah, we're
Speaker 7: very excited.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh my goodness, I have a So then you
Speaker 2: are you selling celebrating actually Christmas there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're there for Christmas and then we leave New
Speaker 7: Year's Day.
Speaker 2: I say, I've always wondered about that because like you
Speaker 2: just tell your kids that Sanna comes to or I
Speaker 2: guess the kids know there's no Sanna. So now they're that.
Speaker 7: Eighteen, they're fifteen and twelve. Yeah, I mean yeah, they've
Speaker 7: done every They were sad to not go to Wisconsin,
Speaker 7: but we brought up the idea of Hawaii. They're like,
Speaker 7: oh that's better. Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 2: I think that'll be fun eventually, because like right now
Speaker 2: I'm in the stage like I love having beat, like
Speaker 2: not traveling and being here. But once they get older,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, okay, this is like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talk about that all the time. Yeah. Nick's like,
Speaker 3: are we at that point now where we're traveling yet
Speaker 3: or are we still buy five year old?
Speaker 2: Tell me ye oh yeah, and then.
Speaker 3: You have to like still buy for the older kids
Speaker 3: or the five year old's gonna be like, wait, why
Speaker 3: didn't they get sharing Sannah. So we're close but not
Speaker 3: there yet.
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Speaker 1: Hi pretty lady, Hi, Sorry, sorry, I thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Wait, don't even worry. I was giving my best d
Speaker 2: some total gossip.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 2: Are you excited to get into the holiday spirit?
Speaker 3: My friend?
Speaker 6: So, yeah, this morning I took my daughter who's in
Speaker 6: high school, to school in my bathrobe and slippers, and
Speaker 6: then I came home in the same bathrobe and slippers
Speaker 6: and put up to Halloween decorations.
Speaker 1: What is it two days before Halloween?
Speaker 3: Hey, least they're up. I mean I don't even have
Speaker 3: them up, so that's fair.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing good.
Speaker 6: I'm in the Halloween spirit and then I'm going to
Speaker 6: get into the Thanksgiving spirit, and then I'm going to
Speaker 6: do the Christmas spirit.
Speaker 1: I loved you that day.
Speaker 2: And speaking of the robes, do you want to say
Speaker 2: when you talked about their Dana story?
Speaker 3: So, like last week, I showed up to the bus stop.
Speaker 3: You know, my hair is like frizzy in my pajamas,
Speaker 3: I may or may not have to brawn. I don't
Speaker 3: even remember at this point, and really not. All the
Speaker 3: moms at the bus stop are like dressed to the nines,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, do we do this? Like do we
Speaker 3: dress up for the bus stop? So anyway, so I
Speaker 3: did a story and I was like, who dresses up
Speaker 3: for the bus stop? And who looks like this, you know,
Speaker 3: and most people looked like said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like me.
Speaker 2: I don't remember every wearing a broad to the bus
Speaker 2: stop like I just my hair is never bro I.
Speaker 3: Just had a sweatshirt on. So yeah, really tell you.
Speaker 6: Guys, I'm so jealous that you have a bus stop
Speaker 6: to go to. I will live in a town with
Speaker 6: a bus stop.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, make your way to Tennessee. And it's I'm
Speaker 2: telling you what it's. It's the bus stop is it's
Speaker 2: it's a happening place. Let me tell you it sounds nice.
Speaker 3: The same for the car rider line, Like half those
Speaker 3: people have to be wearing like you said, the bathrobe, right,
Speaker 3: not like dressed up in the car.
Speaker 1: I hope. So my windows are really tinted so I
Speaker 1: can be in there. I can do whatever I want
Speaker 1: in my.
Speaker 5: Car and I won't know.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 2: My mom always said though, She's like, what happens if
Speaker 2: like you break down and I'm like, well, then I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look like, you know, someone with a robe and
Speaker 2: slippers on, Like that's fine.
Speaker 1: I always think that. Can you just imagine it on
Speaker 1: the side of the freeway.
Speaker 2: Slippers Jenny would have had a field day with you.
Speaker 1: I literally was the thoughts.
Speaker 6: Were going through my mind as obviouly was like, oh shit, okay,
Speaker 6: I cannot have an accident.
Speaker 1: I've drive really carefully.
Speaker 6: And then I was thinking, oh, it's when you think
Speaker 6: you have to drive really carefully, that's when you have
Speaker 6: an accident.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: So I just let it go and whatever happened. But
Speaker 1: I made it home and no accidents.
Speaker 2: And now you look beautiful and you decorated for Halloween
Speaker 2: like you're you're you're there. When do you decorate for Christmas? Oh?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I was thinking it would be fun to do it
Speaker 6: right after Halloween, but then when you have Thanksgiving. I
Speaker 6: don't like to cross the holidays because it gets confusing.
Speaker 6: Like to me, I'm the only one that really cares.
Speaker 6: But I just want to like really enjoy Thanksgiving because
Speaker 6: I have a daughter. One of my daughters is coming
Speaker 6: home from college for Thanksgiving and then she's coming home
Speaker 6: again for Christmas. So I thought I wanted to really
Speaker 6: like feel like it's Thanksgiving, and then when she comes
Speaker 6: back the second time, I wanted to really feel like
Speaker 6: it's Christmas. So I'm going to wait until the day
Speaker 6: after Thanksgiving to decorate this year.
Speaker 3: I love that I have.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Catherine about this because I'm obviously
Speaker 2: recently divorced, and I started to get a little emotional
Speaker 2: when I started seeing, you know, everyone dressing up for Halloween,
Speaker 2: because we used to always like go out and like
Speaker 2: we would dress up together as a family, and now
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, it's different. And then I was like,
Speaker 2: oh God, And then so like Christmas and like I
Speaker 2: don't even know if I want to put a put
Speaker 2: up decorations because then that's just going to like make
Speaker 2: me sad or like what did you do after your
Speaker 2: divorce to like did you embrace it or were you
Speaker 2: just like how was that first? Because I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be honest, like I'm like, I feel like even
Speaker 2: like thinking about it and just like get so emotional
Speaker 2: thinking about the first holiday of being divorced and being single.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well for my last divorce, I had to I wait,
Speaker 6: I really thought about my kids. Like I just thought, yeah,
Speaker 6: that is going to make me sad, but I don't
Speaker 6: really matter right now. What matters is my kid's happiness
Speaker 6: and making this you know, a good holiday for them
Speaker 6: because they're going through the ringer in their own way
Speaker 6: dealing with all of this, and so I just wanted
Speaker 6: to make things seem as cozy and comfortable and familiar
Speaker 6: for them as I possibly could. So you kind of
Speaker 6: just have to put yourself on the back burner, HM.
Speaker 1: Which were used to doing. So we're good at it.
Speaker 6: But it just keep you know, just keep that in
Speaker 6: the forefront of your mind, that the kids really deserve
Speaker 6: a holiday, and you know, they didn't ask for this divorce.
Speaker 6: They didn't you know, it's not their fault. So just
Speaker 6: keep those things in mind.
Speaker 2: No, that's so true, And I appreciate you even because
Speaker 2: I'm like part of me is like, man, I didn't
Speaker 2: even think of like, of course, it's like it's for
Speaker 2: the kids, but I think, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, yeah, dun now, I like really want
Speaker 2: to go all out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you want it to be familiar and yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm all you don't want it to feel like a
Speaker 3: different year, you know, I mean.
Speaker 6: Just do it, do it, or you could just say
Speaker 6: screw it and take them on a tropical vacation for Christmas.
Speaker 2: That sounds great, that Mark, I'm coming to see all
Speaker 2: that in Hawaii because we were just talking about that. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I no, I get that, but no, but that makes
Speaker 2: that makes sense. I feel like it's just yeah, kind
Speaker 2: of walking through the like first that I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of like figuring out a little bit. But I wonder too,
Speaker 2: like do you ever feel like from your last divorce,
Speaker 2: like did it take you a while to kind of
Speaker 2: move on or did did you feel because because I like,
Speaker 2: I feel like I kind of keep going back when
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like I go forward and then
Speaker 2: I go ten steps back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean everybody's circumstances are different, but yeah, every time,
Speaker 6: you know, I would have to face my ex and
Speaker 6: his then girlfriend at my doorstep picking up my daughters
Speaker 6: to take them for a week, I took a million
Speaker 6: steps back, you know that. And when you have kids
Speaker 6: and you share custody, that's really hard and it makes
Speaker 6: it really hard to get over it because that person's
Speaker 6: in your life forever now and you have to find
Speaker 6: a way to sort of manage that and.
Speaker 1: Be okay with it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I I actually was on the treadmill earlier
Speaker 2: today and he was my ex was calling me about
Speaker 2: something and I just like had like this anxietness, like
Speaker 2: heaviness in my chest and because I think I'm just
Speaker 2: like upset about the emotions of the holiday and not
Speaker 2: wanting this and everything else. And it's like I found
Speaker 2: myself being like a little snippy, and I'm like, man, like,
Speaker 2: I can't wait till I can like release that and
Speaker 2: just be like, hey, how are you and like not
Speaker 2: care and not have the like the that energy. But
Speaker 2: it's it's it's hard, like is there any do you
Speaker 2: have any tips or do you have any like anything
Speaker 2: to like help, like, because I'm like I'm doing the therapy,
Speaker 2: I'm doing the work. Is it just time or.
Speaker 1: It's just time? It honestly is.
Speaker 6: And then at some point something clicks inside of you
Speaker 6: and you just don't care anymore. And maybe it's that
Speaker 6: you've moved on, maybe you've met someone else. Maybe you
Speaker 6: are you know, so immersed in discovering yourself and like
Speaker 6: living your life for yourself for once that things will
Speaker 6: just sort of fall into place and then you'll realize, wait,
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 1: Harbor that.
Speaker 6: Anger and resentment every time I hear his name or
Speaker 6: talk to him as much. And it's not like a
Speaker 6: finite thing like it doesn't definitely happen all at once,
Speaker 6: and sometimes it comes back, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: just about noticing it and I think honoring it because
Speaker 6: you get to have those feelings, you know, and managing
Speaker 6: them and telling yourself, I think I'm better where I
Speaker 6: am now, and I'm great, I'm you know. One of
Speaker 6: the weirdest things that I will always remember from my
Speaker 6: divorce was that my husband at the time said, when
Speaker 6: we were getting a divorce, he said, someday, you're going
Speaker 6: to thank me for this.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding? I Am never going
Speaker 1: to thank you for this? And now I get it.
Speaker 3: I see that.
Speaker 6: Not that he was some sort of profit and could
Speaker 6: see the future or anything, but I do. I feel
Speaker 6: great full that my life is the way it is
Speaker 6: now instead of trying to make it work in a
Speaker 6: situation that just couldn't work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mmmm hmm, that is good. Just yeah, it's sorry. It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: It's the great thing about having kids together, but it's
Speaker 2: also the unfortunate thing because you're just like, oh, you
Speaker 2: have to deal with this person and like having to
Speaker 2: like bite your tongue. And my therapist always said, she's like,
Speaker 2: you don't owe him anything. I'm like, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: feel bad. I'm like, he wants a trick or treat,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, I just like, but then I leave
Speaker 2: and it hurts me. But what's best for the kids
Speaker 2: is that we probably did together. And she's like Janna,
Speaker 2: some some people don't even aren't even at the drop offs.
Speaker 2: They just exchange, you know. She's like, you've been very
Speaker 2: nice considering everything, but it's still like the I'm always
Speaker 2: trying to, like trying to keep the peace, even though
Speaker 2: like it's like an inside war inside.
Speaker 3: Of my trying to do what you think is best
Speaker 3: for the kids, but you also doing it together may
Speaker 3: not be what's best for the kids. I'm sure divorce
Speaker 3: always did stuff together and I didn't like it. I
Speaker 3: wanted them to be separate. I didn't like the energy
Speaker 3: of I was older, but I didn't like the energy
Speaker 3: of them doing everything together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they can feel it. They can definitely feel when
Speaker 6: you're not when you are upset, Like even if you're
Speaker 6: putting on a smiley face and acting like you're fine,
Speaker 6: they know and I and sometimes you're right, it's better
Speaker 6: to just not even put yourself in that situation.
Speaker 2: That's so true. Okay, well let's move on to happier
Speaker 2: things because Halloween Halloween, and we're moving on from Halloween,
Speaker 2: move on Thanksgiving, Christmas. You are a darling in the
Speaker 2: Christmas movies and you've got your new one coming out
Speaker 2: on Filo. And what's because I always wonder this. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I do a Christmas movie here and there,
Speaker 2: and if there's one thing that you can change in
Speaker 2: the formula of a Christmas movie, what would that be
Speaker 2: one thing?
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 6: But there's something so just familiar and like warm and
Speaker 6: fuzzy about the formula that I kind of don't want
Speaker 6: to mess with it.
Speaker 1: Like this movie that I just did.
Speaker 6: It's called A Kind Hearted Christmas and it was called
Speaker 6: Secret Santa at first, but they change the title because
Speaker 6: I've already been in a movie called Christanta, so I
Speaker 6: guess they decided that they would find something original. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, you know, it's just it's one
Speaker 6: of those Christmas movies where it starts out like this,
Speaker 6: and then this happens, and then this happens, and then
Speaker 6: it ends up happy. But that's a Christmas movie and
Speaker 6: that's why we love them, and that's why we watch them.
Speaker 6: And that's why they're addictive. Like I could watch Christmas
Speaker 6: movies twenty four to seven because they.
Speaker 2: Make me feel good, and the whole family don't watch them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole family can watch them, and you know
Speaker 6: what's gonna happen, and there's no like surprises or anything.
Speaker 6: It's just it's like eye candy and you turn your
Speaker 6: brain off and you just have a good like you know,
Speaker 6: you get in the spirit.
Speaker 2: No, it's so true, and I love how like you
Speaker 2: can probably count how many almost kisses there are.
Speaker 1: Under the mistle toe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the almost kiss and then the the car
Speaker 2: comes up and then it's like it's like.
Speaker 6: Our movie we were under the Christmas we were under
Speaker 6: the missile toe, and the Christmas carollers interrupted it, of course,
Speaker 6: because that always happened. Obviously dressed in the soul like
Speaker 6: Christmas caroler costumes walk by and you're like, oh, oh,
Speaker 6: we should go, it's getting late, right.
Speaker 2: Have you ever I mean, I'm shoot, I'm sure because
Speaker 2: of all the stuff that you've done. But I had,
Speaker 2: especially in these movies where you have to have such
Speaker 2: an energetic chemistry, have you ever just like truly hated
Speaker 2: the person and had zero chemistry.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would be lying if I Isn't that so hard? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really hard. But that's why we're actors.
Speaker 6: You gotta act like you like them, and then there's
Speaker 6: no other option. And you know, I mean that happens
Speaker 6: a lot, unfortunately, not like you can't stand somebody where
Speaker 6: they just don't have that chemistry or you just don't
Speaker 6: really know much about them or.
Speaker 1: Like them that much. So it happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously now you're married and happy, what kind
Speaker 2: of boundaries do you have when you do have intimate
Speaker 2: scenes with somebody else.
Speaker 6: This is funny because you know, I was really nervous
Speaker 6: to do this movie first of all, which is not
Speaker 6: really like me because I've done quite a number of them,
Speaker 6: and then you know, I shouldn't be nervous, but I
Speaker 6: was nervous because I haven't done a movie like this,
Speaker 6: like a feel good movie or like a rommy comy
Speaker 6: kind of like where I have to look good and
Speaker 6: be cute and funny and perky and all those things.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: It just came off of a year of living in
Speaker 6: my bathtub basically, you know, dealing with depression and anxiety
Speaker 6: and all of the things, and then you know, expected
Speaker 6: to just show up and look at her vescent and
Speaker 6: you know, all the things you're supposed I felt like
Speaker 6: there was a lot of pressure put on me by myself,
Speaker 6: but honestly, just a lot of pressure because there's a
Speaker 6: lot of pressure. There's the fans and the critics and
Speaker 6: the viewers and the network and the executives and the
Speaker 6: director and the co stars and the grips. I mean,
Speaker 6: everybody is looking at the person that's starring in the
Speaker 6: movie to be something. So yeah, So while I was
Speaker 6: putting all that pressure on myself, I wasn't even really
Speaker 6: thinking about, like how me doing a romantic comedy would
Speaker 6: sort of affect my husband because since we've been married,
Speaker 6: I haven't really done that many, you know, romantic scenes
Speaker 6: or had to play chemistry on screen with somebody else
Speaker 6: just a couple of times, and I always have to
Speaker 6: stop and think, how is this affecting him? But he's
Speaker 6: really funny. He deals with things with humor, and so
Speaker 6: a lot of times he would say things like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: Cam's Cam's in really good shape. He calls him Cam,
Speaker 6: never met him, Cam's in really good shape. Yeah you
Speaker 6: like that, Like he would just make fun of it
Speaker 6: or the craziest thing happened the other day. So you know,
Speaker 6: when you do a movie, they do a photo shoot
Speaker 6: with you for like the artwork for the show or whatever.
Speaker 6: So Cameron and I did that obviously, and we.
Speaker 1: You know, all holding each other, looking into each other's
Speaker 1: eyes and just smiling and you know, all the things
Speaker 1: you have to do.
Speaker 6: And they sent me all of the pictures to like
Speaker 6: go through and kill ones where are like kidious in
Speaker 6: And they sent it to my Google whatever. And apparently
Speaker 6: my husband and I share the Google thing, and he
Speaker 6: caught this email and opened it and was faced with
Speaker 6: like all of these images and me and Cameron.
Speaker 2: Like, Karen Mackinson is a very handsome. Yeah, he's like man,
Speaker 2: he's like the like he's like he's tall, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's basically like an older Ken Doll. Like he's
Speaker 2: just all the things. Yes, I met him when I
Speaker 2: was eighteen and I was working on all my children,
Speaker 2: and like I still have his headshot that he gave
Speaker 2: me and probably my like high school diary.
Speaker 1: And he probably looks exactly the same exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it was just funny how he kind of
Speaker 6: dealt with it and we just joke about it and
Speaker 6: kind of try to keep it light because you know,
Speaker 6: I love Cameron, but I don't love Cameron like that.
Speaker 1: Sure you know what I mean, you love the care chemistry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we have.
Speaker 6: I love him as a person too, but we have
Speaker 6: chemistry on screen. But I mean I've always said this,
Speaker 6: I could have chemistry with a doorknob, Like that's what
Speaker 6: I do. Like if if somebody says, act like you
Speaker 6: love that doorknob, I'm going to act like I love
Speaker 6: that or not because that's my job. So I people,
Speaker 6: I think that the whole like you know, chemistry with
Speaker 6: actors is sometimes overinflated and sometimes misinterpreted as actual real
Speaker 6: chemistry because it's just not And but there have been
Speaker 6: times when it has been. But you know, you mature
Speaker 6: and you know the difference now between what's real and
Speaker 6: what's not real. And for sure, I don't know, so
Speaker 6: it's just different now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear that for sure, especially when you know,
Speaker 2: because I've had that issue with a few of my
Speaker 2: last co stars because I do post and I'm you know,
Speaker 2: very friendly and like oh like you know, not like
Speaker 2: I don't know if people say it's flirty, but I'm
Speaker 2: just kind of like that's just your personality. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so people are like, oh, I'm like he's married nineteen
Speaker 2: years and no, like I just as just us having
Speaker 2: fun on set and it's just but sure whatever, like
Speaker 2: you know, the chemistry will show on on film. But yeah, again,
Speaker 2: that's what we do, and that's what we have to
Speaker 2: do to make people's wrapping presence days a little lighter
Speaker 2: and fun and full of love.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's crazy that it's a weird job when
Speaker 6: you think about it, like what we do and you know,
Speaker 6: being romantic with strangers and in front of a crew,
Speaker 6: it's all just weird.
Speaker 2: But and then having to separate it and go home
Speaker 2: and be like, okay, exactly, I'm actually in love with you,
Speaker 2: but I had to be in love with this person
Speaker 2: but not really like yeah, it's insane, it's weird, it's
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's.
Speaker 1: Not further, it's not the easiest thing to do, but
Speaker 1: we figure it out for sure.
Speaker 2: You know, I have something that you mentioned to before
Speaker 2: we start talking about that and a lot of people,
Speaker 2: I mean I deal with it as well. But what
Speaker 2: was the thing that basically got you out of your
Speaker 2: anxiety and depression before you did this movie.
Speaker 1: Well on top of you know, just the year that
Speaker 1: we had and all the things that went with that.
Speaker 6: My a week before I went to do this film,
Speaker 6: my middle daughter left for college, and I was destroyed.
Speaker 6: Like I'm very, very very close with my middle daughter.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm close with all of them, but she's
Speaker 6: like my mini me. And I took her to college
Speaker 6: and moved her in and got her all situated and
Speaker 6: left her and that was one of the most Like
Speaker 6: there are probably four or five days of my life
Speaker 6: that have just rocked me to the core, and that
Speaker 6: was one of them. And you know, three or four
Speaker 6: days later, I had to be back on another plane
Speaker 6: going to Vancouver to do this movie. And I was
Speaker 6: worried because when I feel something, my whole body feels it,
Speaker 6: like I can't hide it, you know, if I'm upset,
Speaker 6: it comes across on my face and my eyes, like
Speaker 6: my skin everything. And I had to just before we
Speaker 6: started that movie, I had like two days of sort
Speaker 6: of confinement or whatever for COVID, and I just watched
Speaker 6: back to back Christmas movies all day long and all
Speaker 6: night long to try to get myself like up up, up,
Speaker 6: and to stop thinking about like the reality of what
Speaker 6: I just experienced. So it's in this case, it was
Speaker 6: about just changing my view, you know, and trying to
Speaker 6: like separate it. And then I when I wrapped, I
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, now I can go back to mourning
Speaker 6: the you know, the loss of my daughter like in
Speaker 6: the next room with.
Speaker 3: Me all the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So you kind of just have to like focus on
Speaker 6: what's right in front of you and put your energy
Speaker 6: on that and that will usually lift, you know, lift
Speaker 6: you out of a mood.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, yeah, And that's that's so true. I remember
Speaker 2: I was filming in Connecticut and I got the call
Speaker 2: from my lawyer was right before I went into set
Speaker 2: that I was finalized. So it's like, you know, then
Speaker 2: you got to go walk into set and like everyone knows,
Speaker 2: they're all looking at you being like, is she going
Speaker 2: to be a mess today? Is she going to like well,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you cry. I worked, then I
Speaker 2: went home and cried. But it's just like I think
Speaker 2: that's a really good point of just what's in front
Speaker 2: of you, what's right there, what can you you know?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm a super emotionful person. I like
Speaker 6: to call it emotion ful instead of emotional, because I
Speaker 6: love my emotions and I wouldn't want to be any
Speaker 6: other way. Some people think it, think of it as
Speaker 6: a negative thing, but I definitely don't. And so, you know,
Speaker 6: being doing what I do for as long since I
Speaker 6: was sixteen years old, there have been a lot of
Speaker 6: times when bad stuff has been going on in my
Speaker 6: real life and I have to go and pretend like
Speaker 6: everything's hunky dory in front of you know, hundreds of
Speaker 6: people and in front of the camera, and you just,
Speaker 6: you know, you tough enough you figure out how to
Speaker 6: do that, and you'd go and give yourself the time
Speaker 6: that you need for like that thirty seconds, thirty minutes,
Speaker 6: whatever it is, and then you suck.
Speaker 1: It up and you go out there and you do
Speaker 1: your job.
Speaker 6: Yeap. So no, for sure, this is one of those situations.
Speaker 6: But being you know, in this situation, being around like
Speaker 6: just a really great crew, really great cast, and just
Speaker 6: really positive energy all around on this film, which was
Speaker 6: one of the first times I've really just loved every
Speaker 6: aspect of making a movie. And I didn't think I would,
Speaker 6: but I really had a great experience on this film.
Speaker 2: Amazing so make sure to watch a kind Hearted Christmas
Speaker 2: on GAC on filow which actually, by the way, Jenny,
Speaker 2: can you explain the new GAC and what's happening over there.
Speaker 6: Yes, GAC used to be a Great American Country, so
Speaker 6: a lot of people already have it, but now it's
Speaker 6: called Great American Channel, and this is Great American Channel
Speaker 6: Family Ghack Family, and I definitely recommend looking into it
Speaker 6: if you are interested in good Christmas movies and nice,
Speaker 6: you know, movies for the whole family, because that's what
Speaker 6: this network is all about, is making family friendly programming.
Speaker 2: For sure, and it's way less than cable, which is
Speaker 2: why we have it. So thanks Jenny, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: coming on.
Speaker 1: You got it.
Speaker 2: Bye guys, Bye Sea, Thank you girl. You know what
Speaker 2: also is on Filo this coming year because a lot
Speaker 2: of people are like, I don't have lifetime, but guess
Speaker 2: what if you get Filo, you can watch a holiday fix.
Speaker 2: Catherine was actually there, we see were there when we
Speaker 2: were filming.
Speaker 3: There was a few of them. There was a few, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, a bunch of different houses, that's all
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: I had so much fun filming this movie, and I'm
Speaker 2: just I really really really want y'all to get Filo
Speaker 2: because I want you to watch The Holiday Fix Up
Speaker 2: on Lifetime because I produced it.
Speaker 1: Y'all, you did a great job.
Speaker 3: You were to hard on this. Thank you, like you
Speaker 3: started what gosh six months before.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ryan always jokes, He's like, I went through a
Speaker 2: marriage and a divorce with you. You were like constantly
Speaker 2: on calls and I know we've been working on this
Speaker 2: for a while. It was it was Ryan's idea. He
Speaker 2: and I was his main pick for the for the
Speaker 2: love interest. And when I I think it was in
Speaker 2: oh gosh, when was it. I think it was in
Speaker 2: February when I got the call from Lifetime saying like, hey,
Speaker 2: Ryan McPartland and these producers Stephanie Margaret would love for
Speaker 2: you to like meet with them about a potential, you know,
Speaker 2: movie with them. And I was like, well, great, send
Speaker 2: me the script and they're like, well there isn't one,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, well that's intriguing. Like then
Speaker 2: I can maybe help and put my two cents in there.
Speaker 2: And that's what Ryan and I did. I mean, we
Speaker 2: both were able to help produce and come up with
Speaker 2: the storyline, and it was so nice to have like that,
Speaker 2: that creative input and then see it come to life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: more so, because usually I have the script and then
Speaker 2: it's like I don't rea get to change it that much.
Speaker 2: But this way, I was like, I'm actually like a producer,
Speaker 2: like I got to help with casting.
Speaker 1: And so did you love that?
Speaker 3: Like would you want to produce more? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it so much. We're already working on
Speaker 2: the next Christmas one.
Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. I know, but it wrote a song.
Speaker 3: I mean I did so much with this.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and that was actually Ryan's idea. He's like, we
Speaker 2: should you should sing a song for the movie. I
Speaker 2: was like, no, I don't think so. And then as
Speaker 2: the movie went on, I was like, well maybe, you know,
Speaker 2: let's let's kind of discuss it. So then we met
Speaker 2: up with Christian bush and from Sugarland and you know,
Speaker 2: so yeah, the song will play in there, and but
Speaker 2: yeah it was it was just but I did throw
Speaker 2: something in there because I was so sick and tired
Speaker 2: of the almost kiss. I was like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to almost kiss. I want like I don't want to
Speaker 2: have people have to wait till the end, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to kiss. And then I want conflict, like
Speaker 2: I want this to be some like somewhat real.
Speaker 3: And they let you. They did. Yeah I know, Hey,
Speaker 3: it's never been done.
Speaker 2: This is the most dramatic a lifetime show you can
Speaker 2: watch on Filo called The Holiday fix Up. But seriously,
Speaker 2: I hope you guys love it because there was a
Speaker 2: lot of hard work and it was a saving grace
Speaker 2: at the time of it too, So I can't wait
Speaker 2: to watch it.