Speaker 1: It is Monday, February third, twenty twenty five. This is
Speaker 1: another edition of Football Today, presented you by Captain Morgan,
Speaker 1: the official Spice Drama of the NFL. We are reunited.
Speaker 1: The guys are back for Mobile. I am Chris Rose,
Speaker 1: Bobby Skinner, Justin Pennock, Producer Connor. We're all together, even
Speaker 1: if not in the same room. All right, Bobby. The
Speaker 1: question everybody wants to know Automobile. Does Pennock snore?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: If I slept on the top ceiling a floor of
Speaker 3: our airbnb, I would have known, especially because they lied
Speaker 3: about being a four bedroom house. They're they're liars. But
Speaker 3: I'm sure he does.
Speaker 2: I bet I very bad sleep appen now, So yes,
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. So I was it, guys,
Speaker 1: You know I got to tell you. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys stayed for the actual game. The game
Speaker 1: itself usually is pretty crappy. It's just, you know, you're
Speaker 1: throwing a bunch of guys together. The game itself on
Speaker 1: Saturday was fun. It looked like all the content you
Speaker 1: guys shot was was pretty good.
Speaker 3: How we didn't stay for the game, but we are
Speaker 3: Jack Betch guys. So it's good to see him when
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl MVP. And We're gonna do a Senior
Speaker 3: Bowl only mock draft on Talking Giants this week, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be banging on the table as I you know,
Speaker 3: costplay Brian Dable for Jack Betch Okay Hedick.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun, A ton of ton
Speaker 2: of players talk to a ton of players too. I
Speaker 2: would say this was like our most productive week down
Speaker 2: and down in Mobile two in terms of everything that
Speaker 2: came out. So a lot of fun. Excited to see
Speaker 2: where these guys got draft.
Speaker 4: Did you find it?
Speaker 1: I mean there were some big name quarterbacks, not the
Speaker 1: not the top two shoot or Sanders wasn't there, cam
Speaker 1: Ward wasn't there. But the guys that are fighting an
Speaker 1: app for QB three. Did you guys find the next
Speaker 1: great Giants back that will soon be let go before
Speaker 1: his rookie contract expires.
Speaker 3: I will say their names are big, their play not
Speaker 3: so much. No more old miss quarterbacks for Big Blue
Speaker 3: uh Paddick.
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel was the most consistent quarterback, even though Day
Speaker 2: three he went like one for six for one for
Speaker 2: five and eleven on eleven and took more and like
Speaker 2: somehow took sacks and seven on seven. So yeah, that
Speaker 2: tells you where the state of this quarterback class is
Speaker 2: at right now.
Speaker 1: But don't worry, somebody's gonna get hot, you know, a
Speaker 1: little less than three months until the draft up there
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, which you can see over on NFL
Speaker 1: Network if you'd like to tune in for that. All right,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have another show before the kick of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty nine down in New Orleans. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into the nitty gritty of the game on
Speaker 1: Friday show.
Speaker 4: But today we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna kind of have a little bit of fun, take
Speaker 1: a little more leeway with some bigger picture topics of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I got eight of them in mind here, guys.
Speaker 1: Most of them are you're going to rate on a
Speaker 1: scale of one to five. Give us a reason for
Speaker 1: each thing that.
Speaker 4: You believe here.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna start off with this, which is the
Speaker 1: easy one, that the Chiefs are trying to become the
Speaker 1: first team to go back to back to back in
Speaker 1: Super Bowl history. How much do you care about this?
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to five, one being you
Speaker 1: move on to the next topic rows by being I
Speaker 1: can't believe we're not talking about this enough, Bobby.
Speaker 3: This gets five big booms. I mean, this is the
Speaker 3: storyline of the Super Bowl. It's it's the no team
Speaker 3: has ever done this, right, Like we've come on these
Speaker 3: post super Bowl shows and talked about, oh, Brady verse, Mahomes,
Speaker 3: Brady verse, Mahomes is it two early? They're able to
Speaker 3: win three in a row? That's now four super Bowls.
Speaker 3: Now he's second most, you know, tied with Joe Montana,
Speaker 3: like we're and it's and it's before Brady did to
Speaker 3: where now I feel like that stuff becomes a little
Speaker 3: more legit and you have and it's a little less like, oh,
Speaker 3: let's wait and see. Let's wait and see. Like winning
Speaker 3: three in a row without the most talented roster in
Speaker 3: the NFL is amazing, And I, like you said, why
Speaker 3: are we not talking about it? I'm surprised that we're
Speaker 3: not talking more about like this dynasty that is the
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and and they're fourth, you know, not
Speaker 3: just three in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm giving this five five big booms as well. Chris.
Speaker 2: Do you know that reference?
Speaker 4: By the way, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know that I like it though the Costco guys,
Speaker 3: the Costco guys.
Speaker 4: Jami Justice, I got it.
Speaker 3: I got sorry about your brother that passed away. He
Speaker 3: gets five big booms.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so five big booms for me, because really,
Speaker 2: I think the closest team that did it was the
Speaker 2: New England Patriots two thousand and one, two thousand three,
Speaker 2: two thousand and four. They're like the kind of the
Speaker 2: closest ones to do it. But then I think the
Speaker 2: last team to really win three championships in a row
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty nine, nineteen thirty, nineteen thirty one, Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 2: and that you know obviously pre Super Bowl days. So
Speaker 2: this is just something that we're like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be telling my grandkids when both of you are maybe
Speaker 2: here with us, maybe not. I will be telling my
Speaker 2: grandkids about the Kansas City Chiefs and how they're one
Speaker 2: of the the greatest dynasty because they were able to
Speaker 2: do it three times in a row.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, thanks for kicking the old guy
Speaker 1: to the curb. Secondly, the thought of you having grandchildren
Speaker 1: inhabit this planet at some point, at some point just
Speaker 1: scared the Bejesus out of me. Number three, I do
Speaker 1: want to I'm not here to point fingers or anything.
Speaker 1: But the Packers sixty five through sixty seven actually did it.
Speaker 1: I yeah, they won the NFL championship in sixty five.
Speaker 1: Then they won each of the first two Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: So we have had teams win three straight championships, just
Speaker 1: not three straight Super Bowls. To me, it's a little
Speaker 1: bigger than even that. Do you guys know the last
Speaker 1: team in North American I gotta be careful with this
Speaker 1: if I throw sports the core four sports. Thank you,
Speaker 1: very very good that a way, Bobby.
Speaker 3: They beat my new jersey nets in one of those,
Speaker 3: so it's very memorable, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: From the ninety nine season through the two season, they
Speaker 1: covered three seasons to win three Restyles. So you know,
Speaker 1: and when you throw out Mahomes and us talking about Brady,
Speaker 1: the simple explanation will be, well, you can't put him
Speaker 1: in Brady's category because he doesn't have seven rings. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't do that in other sports. Who do we
Speaker 1: consider to be the greatest basketball player ever?
Speaker 3: Jordan?
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan? How many rings does he have?
Speaker 3: Six?
Speaker 1: He has six? Is that the most in NBA history? No,
Speaker 1: it is not.
Speaker 4: It is not.
Speaker 1: When we talk about the greatest baseball player in history.
Speaker 1: I mean usually you know, you can kick that around
Speaker 1: Willie Mays to Hank Aaron, those guys don't have the
Speaker 1: most rings and it's not even close. So why is
Speaker 1: it at this point that we strictly say, well, he
Speaker 1: can't be the best quarterback ever. I mean, what he
Speaker 1: has done or has a chance to do by age
Speaker 1: twenty nine if he wins in less than a week.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't get to his second pairing of three
Speaker 1: Super Bowls until he was in his mid to late thirties, right.
Speaker 3: But it's just longevity matter. So it's not like Brady
Speaker 3: just had like this peak and then of six straight
Speaker 3: in a row and then like sure Brady was great.
Speaker 3: Like it's hard. It's just it's just hard to match
Speaker 3: what Brady did. It's impossible, you know, MVP super Bowls,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, record breaking seasons, like he was
Speaker 3: amazing in a time of amazing quarterback play. He rose
Speaker 3: to the top consistently, so the Chiefs. But like the
Speaker 3: only guy who we've thought that can maybe do that
Speaker 3: is Patrick Mahomes. So you know, once you get the four,
Speaker 3: like that's just part of it, you know, because longevity
Speaker 3: matters to be able to do this at a you know,
Speaker 3: consistent phasis in the era of salary cap wheres the
Speaker 3: menfl is not meant to do this, right, They they
Speaker 3: make it to where you can't do this. And they've
Speaker 3: been the one team to you know, kick the trend
Speaker 3: of you know, paying the quarterback and being able to
Speaker 3: get it done.
Speaker 2: And they also give you hard schedules too, when you
Speaker 2: when you finish in first place and when you finish
Speaker 2: in last place, because they like, they like the polarity
Speaker 2: of it. But let me flip this on its head
Speaker 2: for one second, because I think the weight that this
Speaker 2: is a football fan saying this about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But Rose, you're you know, you're, your fingers are all
Speaker 2: over sports. I think the weight of a Super Bowl
Speaker 2: win is just a lot more than some of the
Speaker 2: other sports. And here's what I mean, flipped this on
Speaker 2: its head. Cam Newton recently came out and said, I
Speaker 2: would rather keep my regular season MVP. W I traded
Speaker 2: away for that Super Bowl victory in twenty fifteen if
Speaker 2: that meant he had to give it away his regular
Speaker 2: season MVP, And he said, no, I want I want
Speaker 2: to go down as a regular season MVP. I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of crazy to be a super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think that holds so much more weight even if
Speaker 2: you did it once versus like a regular season MVP
Speaker 2: as a quarterback. Now, is that wrong?
Speaker 3: Like I think?
Speaker 2: But I were to say, like in baseball, though, I
Speaker 2: think I would rather be an MVP winner in baseball
Speaker 2: and remembered for like a forty or a fifty home
Speaker 2: run season than just being part of a World Series
Speaker 2: winning team. What do you guys think about that?
Speaker 3: Well, for quarterback, super Bowl means the most obviously in
Speaker 3: the NFL. I think Cam was probably just kind of
Speaker 3: digging in his heels. I'm like, kind of I wouldn't
Speaker 3: change anything about my career. I think he would if
Speaker 3: he was being honestly, he'd rather finish second MVP voting
Speaker 3: that year and win the Super Bowl because he would
Speaker 3: be he would be you know, better better viewed. You know,
Speaker 3: you have a better case for Hall of Fame or whatever.
Speaker 3: But the reality is, like the thing that keeps you
Speaker 3: afloat and keeps you going to the Super Bowl is
Speaker 3: that quarterback position. But also like where the NBA, you
Speaker 3: don't get like guys who go get hot and get
Speaker 3: on a run, right, you have to win four out
Speaker 3: of seven, and every series we're in the NFL, you
Speaker 3: just got to have one bad day and you're and
Speaker 3: you're out of the tournament. So, like you said, like
Speaker 3: you said, rose to do this for the first time,
Speaker 3: To win three in a row, where you win three
Speaker 3: years in a row, where nobody had just had a
Speaker 3: better day than you, I think is pretty damn special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the quarterback position is so different than there
Speaker 1: is nothing else in sports. There's not even a goaltender
Speaker 1: in hockey that that comes close to it when it
Speaker 1: comes to a postseason run. You know, we still talk
Speaker 1: about Joe Flacco because he still plays, but we are
Speaker 1: going to remember one run a dozen years ago where
Speaker 1: he threw eleven touchdowns and didn't throw any interceptions in
Speaker 1: leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl forty seven victory
Speaker 1: over San Francisco. We're going to remember that forever. You
Speaker 1: remember quarterbacks, you remember coaches, and that's it, and in
Speaker 1: this particular sport. So yeah, I do I think that
Speaker 1: obviously it's that choice that you put out there. Panic
Speaker 1: is the one that you know, we certainly understand where
Speaker 1: it's coming from let's move on to our second topic
Speaker 1: once again, scale of one to five. Saquon Barkley is
Speaker 1: the most important offensive player Sunday on either team. One
Speaker 1: is hell no, and five is no doubt.
Speaker 4: Panic, Yeah, I'm giving it a five.
Speaker 2: It's hell yes. He's the most important because you typically
Speaker 2: talk about we were just talking about quarterbacks, right, where
Speaker 2: does the source of explosivity come? For the most part
Speaker 2: in the game of football, comes from the quarterback throwing
Speaker 2: the ball, or even the quarterback dropping back to pass
Speaker 2: and then he scrambles. That's typically where you see these
Speaker 2: big plays of ten, fifteen, twenty plus yards because everything
Speaker 2: just breaks down. The Philadelphi Eagles their source of explosive plays,
Speaker 2: and Saquon Barkley has had a season unlike anybody else
Speaker 2: in NFL history with these runs and these touchdowns that
Speaker 2: he's had of forty to fifty sixty plus yard touchdowns.
Speaker 2: He is the source of the big plays that the
Speaker 2: philaduff Eagles have. Now there is a j. Brown, of course,
Speaker 2: there is Davonte Smith, but that's when the Eagles are
Speaker 2: really operating at their best. But no one has been
Speaker 2: able to stop over the last month and a half
Speaker 2: two months and since kind of like this December run.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is really when it started for
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Nobody has been able to stop the legs
Speaker 2: of Saquon Barkley, particularly big play Saquon Barkley. So absolutely,
Speaker 2: he is the most important player on this Eagles offense
Speaker 2: for sure. So I give it. I mean, I'm up
Speaker 2: there out of five.
Speaker 3: Again, I mean, that's kind of crazy. You think he's
Speaker 3: more important than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: On either team? Yes, yes, really yes.
Speaker 3: So we're just talking about a guy being the greatest
Speaker 3: of all time and you're and you think steak On
Speaker 3: bark I disagree with that.
Speaker 2: Per it is the most important offensive player for the
Speaker 2: Eagles to be for the Eagles to have a shot
Speaker 2: in this Like if Patrick Mahomes has a stat line,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read you one of his stat lines from
Speaker 2: one of his Super Bowls twenty one for twenty seven
Speaker 2: one and eighty two yards, three touchdown, zero interceptions. That
Speaker 2: was the stat line that he had in the thirty
Speaker 2: eight to thirty five victory against the Eagles two years
Speaker 2: ago in twenty twenty two. Like, I view that besides
Speaker 2: the three touchdown passes under two hundred yards. It's kind
Speaker 2: of a pedestrian stat.
Speaker 1: Line beides you can't take an it's the three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: which are kind.
Speaker 3: Of and he played like perfectly in that game against
Speaker 3: that defense too. Yeah, like a change stike in defense
Speaker 3: or not change stike in on Jonathan defense. That was
Speaker 3: keeping up. They did. They played damn near fallless like hell,
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts played damn near falls hats have a fumble
Speaker 3: in that game, and the Chiefs just did more. So.
Speaker 3: So important is always a kind of a loaded word,
Speaker 3: but even within like even erasing that we do like
Speaker 3: MVP of Verus most house standing or whatever, I still
Speaker 3: think Mahomes is there. So I'm going to go. I'm
Speaker 3: going to go too because I also think the Eagles
Speaker 3: just have a lot of other off Like their quarterback
Speaker 3: is really important. I think Aj Brown and Devonte Smith
Speaker 3: what they can do in this game, Like, I think
Speaker 3: there's so much and we're just talking about offenses and
Speaker 3: this too, So I'll go it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would keep it. I hate to go split
Speaker 1: it down the middle, but I will. I'll go with
Speaker 1: a three here in part because of who he's going against.
Speaker 1: Spags has faced the NFL's leading rusher twice in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He is two and oh against those guys. So it
Speaker 1: was the twenty nineteen AFC Title game against Tennessee held
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry to under seventy yards rushing, and then last
Speaker 1: year in Super Bowl fifty eight, Christian McCaffery really had
Speaker 1: to work to get his eighty yards on twenty two carries.
Speaker 1: So he's two and ozer. He's going to come up
Speaker 1: with some sort of master plan to have somebody else
Speaker 1: be and I think that he's going to do everything
Speaker 1: in his power to make sure that Jalen's Jalen hurts
Speaker 1: his arm and not his legs. So you know, I
Speaker 1: think that they're I mean, once again, good luck with
Speaker 1: this because Saquon didn't have an enormous second half against
Speaker 1: the Rams in the divisional round until you consider those
Speaker 1: two explosive runs that he had so other than that
Speaker 1: they bottled him up, and then those are the it's
Speaker 1: the one two punch that he can deal. Also, there's
Speaker 1: a big day for Saquon Barkley. I hate to pile
Speaker 1: on my Giants buddies here, but he turns twenty Yeah,
Speaker 1: he turns, he turns twenty eight on Super Bowl Sunday.
Speaker 1: Players that a birthday on the Super Bowl and playing
Speaker 1: it are ten and four all time. Oh wow, there
Speaker 1: you go, little nifty nifty thing for you.
Speaker 2: But Rose so you so you brought up that Barkley. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he wasn't as effective until he breaks off that run,
Speaker 2: but he did, and that's what he's done, and that's
Speaker 2: what he's done. Name me another player, I would say,
Speaker 2: but maybe besides AJ Brown, name me another player on
Speaker 2: either side of the ball that you think can snap
Speaker 2: of a finger forty to fifty sixty. Our play changes
Speaker 2: the game. I don't think you can in this matchup.
Speaker 3: I don't think Brown.
Speaker 2: Yes, But Saquan's done it way more consistently than AJ
Speaker 2: Brown as of as of late. And that's why in
Speaker 2: terms of level of importance, Saquan is a guy that
Speaker 2: can just change the game on a dime and do
Speaker 2: exactly what the Eagles may need in that specific game,
Speaker 2: in this specific game.
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Speaker 1: on with our questions. H Patrick Mahomes, We've already talked
Speaker 1: a little bit about him, but Bobby, he will have
Speaker 1: to have the best game of his five Super Bowl
Speaker 1: appearances in order to take down the Philadelphia Eagles. One
Speaker 1: is heck, No. Five is absolutely rose.
Speaker 3: I'll say I'll stay four because I think the way
Speaker 3: he played against the Eagles two years ago is the
Speaker 3: similar to the way he's going to play in this game.
Speaker 3: So he's kind of done that. But I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna have to play way better than both of the
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers games and then obviously the Bucks, the
Speaker 3: Bucks loss that he had because Vic Fangio is gonna
Speaker 3: like he is not gonna make it easy on them,
Speaker 3: Like You're gonna have to play damn near perfect football
Speaker 3: to get that win. And you know, on the other side,
Speaker 3: you do have an offense that can you know, can
Speaker 3: create those explosives in the run game with Saquon Barkle
Speaker 3: just was talking about, and get you over the top
Speaker 3: with AJ Brown and Devonte Smith and Dallas Goddard can
Speaker 3: do damage there. You know, they have the put the
Speaker 3: tush push that makes them super efficient on on third
Speaker 3: and fourth down. Uh So you just there's not gonna
Speaker 3: be very much room for error in this game against
Speaker 3: a really damn good defense. That I'll go four because
Speaker 3: I think he did. I think he had a very
Speaker 3: similar game. Like he's gonna have to have a very
Speaker 3: similar game to what he did against the Eagles two
Speaker 3: years ago. I think if he plays the way he
Speaker 3: did in either of the forty nine ers games, this
Speaker 3: this may go down as a.
Speaker 2: L I'm gonna go with the three where his EPA
Speaker 2: incredible EPA per play in the last Super Bowl against
Speaker 2: the Eagles with ninety fifth percentile, and that's the one
Speaker 2: where he went twenty one for twenty seven, two or
Speaker 2: three touchdowns. But like again, like you look at that
Speaker 2: stat line, the three touchdowns definitely do stick out, but
Speaker 2: the yards being under two hundred, it's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not really sexy. They're gonna need an offense that's gonna
Speaker 2: have to just stay on schedule. Where a six point
Speaker 2: two averaged up to target for Mahomes in that last
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, that's the fifteenth percentile. I that's kind of
Speaker 2: where the Chiefs have been over the last two years,
Speaker 2: is they have to keep that average up to target
Speaker 2: low and they have to kind of stay on schedule,
Speaker 2: and I think that's kind of how Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 2: going to need the win and what so why I
Speaker 2: say three it's a little lower than the Bobby is.
Speaker 2: I don't think the yards is going to be sexy
Speaker 2: like he threw for three hundred and thirty three last year.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to throw for three hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty three unless he's having to come back, unless
Speaker 2: they're down by ten points in the fourth quarter and
Speaker 2: they're having to come back. But if the Chiefs are
Speaker 2: playing their brand of football, which is keeping the game
Speaker 2: close and keeping that game script very close and just
Speaker 2: controlling the game, then that average up, the target's going
Speaker 2: to be down. They're going to stay on schedule, and
Speaker 2: Mahomes is just going to be slinging it left to
Speaker 2: right to whoever's open, and he's going to be using
Speaker 2: his legs as well. It wouldn't surprise me, especially now
Speaker 2: that he is that healthy ankle. He had six rushing
Speaker 2: attempts for forty four yards in the Eagles Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: nine rushing attempts for sixty six yards last year. I
Speaker 2: think he's easily clearing over fifty rushing yards.
Speaker 1: This game, well, he has to get minimum over forty,
Speaker 1: which is something that he's done seven times in his
Speaker 1: playoff career and so yet to me, it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: the gaudy number with his arms, but it's both of
Speaker 1: those because we don't talk about Mahomes's running until he
Speaker 1: actually runs for a huge first down, right he did
Speaker 1: last year even on the bad ankle and everything else,
Speaker 1: he's done it or you know, in Super Bowl fifty
Speaker 1: seven with the bad ankle. So when he does that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, then you sit there and you're like, wow.
Speaker 4: We tend not.
Speaker 1: To talk about, you know, Patrick Mahomes and his running ability.
Speaker 1: We talk about Josh Allen and his running ability. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about Jalen Hurts and his running ability. But Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes always leaves us with some sort of memorable scramble,
Speaker 1: whether it's to continue a drive, keep the ball away
Speaker 1: from the opponent, whatever it is. So I could see
Speaker 1: him throwing for under two hundred and fifty and still
Speaker 1: having perhaps his best Super Bowl yet, and so I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to say that it's probably a four
Speaker 1: out of five.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have to say something. I have to say.
Speaker 3: I want to break. I want to break the news
Speaker 3: of Chris Rose. Miles Garrett has demanded a trade from
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, and he made a statement.
Speaker 4: But don't do that.
Speaker 3: I swear I'm not lying.
Speaker 5: This is like, this is like Luca was traded to
Speaker 5: the It was not that big which and by the way,
Speaker 5: I hate to be that's the dumbest trade ever and
Speaker 5: sports history, right, the Luca trade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty bad. Well, not the dumbest trade ever.
Speaker 1: It's not the dumbest trade ever.
Speaker 3: We can trade.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe perhaps the team that just had their guy
Speaker 1: request to trade. All right, what do we do about this?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? So here's here's the statement that he
Speaker 1: just released. Miles Garrett. As a kid dreaming of the NFL,
Speaker 1: all I focused on was the ultimate goal of winning
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, and that goal fuels me today more
Speaker 1: than ever. My love for the community of Northeast Ohio
Speaker 1: and the incredible fan base of the Cleveland Browns has
Speaker 1: made this one of the toughest decisions of my life.
Speaker 1: These past eight years have shaped me into the man
Speaker 1: I am today. While I've loved calling this city my home,
Speaker 1: my desire to win compete the biggest stage won't allow
Speaker 1: me to be complacent. The goal is never was never
Speaker 1: to go from Cleveland to Canton. It was always to
Speaker 1: compete for and win a Super Bowl. With that in mind,
Speaker 1: I requested to be traded from the Cleveland Browns Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: Oh God, and I had this dream of.
Speaker 4: I had this before Sunday.
Speaker 2: Before Sunday I did. I did have this stream of
Speaker 2: pairing Miles Garrett with Abdual Carter and just how fun
Speaker 2: that defensive front would be, even if the team's not good,
Speaker 2: that would be one of the more fun defensive fronts
Speaker 2: you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Hey, maybe trade him to the Giants and we'll we'll
Speaker 3: do that with pick three.
Speaker 4: So with Brian, if you're the let's think this through here.
Speaker 1: If this strictly isn't a an extension ploy, which I
Speaker 1: am hopeful that it is, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think it is either. Okay, if you uh, if
Speaker 1: you do that, if you trade him, where do like
Speaker 1: all these teams that would love to have him, the Lions,
Speaker 1: all their picks are going to be in the twenties forever.
Speaker 1: You cannot give up Miles Garrett, who's still in the
Speaker 1: prime of his career. He's he just turned twenty nine
Speaker 1: years old in December. You can't give them up for
Speaker 1: multiple first round picks for the Lions. What the hell
Speaker 1: does that do for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I I would say no, because, like you said,
Speaker 3: nobody that no one's gonna that's gonna have a bottom
Speaker 3: of the draft pick. Is actually know what some of
Speaker 3: those teams may be willing to do that, you know, like,
Speaker 3: let's the what's the team? You know, Like, can you
Speaker 3: see the Falcons maybe, you know, making a big splash
Speaker 3: trade for Miles Garrett and then their season doesn't go
Speaker 3: the way they expect. Like I could see something like
Speaker 3: that happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Bears, do you trade because
Speaker 1: you've got a rookie quarterback on his deal? Do you
Speaker 1: they have a top ten pick? Yeah, he's you know,
Speaker 1: and not that the Bears are significantly closer to a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl than the Browns, but it's at least their
Speaker 1: point in the right direction. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: would satisfy Miles Garrett. But when you're talking about a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender, when you're talking about teams that are
Speaker 1: picking from basically twenty four.
Speaker 4: And back, God, what a disaster you guys enjoying this.
Speaker 3: No, I just want it on the record. I was
Speaker 3: the one who broke the news to you justin did
Speaker 3: not get it out in time. Oh my god, hey listen,
Speaker 3: if if he has an amazing year, get ready for
Speaker 3: how did the Browns let this guy go? We've we've
Speaker 3: had to deal with that every sing.
Speaker 4: If he has an amazing year, what do you mean
Speaker 4: if he is.
Speaker 3: He's saying on like the big the biggest stage. Like
Speaker 3: if he's just doing having an amazing year on the Cardinals,
Speaker 3: no one will care. But if he's doing it in
Speaker 3: their winning playoff games in prime time with that whatever
Speaker 3: team that he's in, then how did the Browns waste
Speaker 3: this talent? Which you guys have wasted the talent but
Speaker 3: still so quest.
Speaker 4: And we'll get back to the super Bowl. If you're
Speaker 4: the Browns, how do you handle this?
Speaker 1: Because this isn't about acquiescing and just giving Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: whatever he wants. I mean, the guy's still under contract
Speaker 1: for a few more years, so to request a trade
Speaker 1: in this sport, I think is a little different than
Speaker 1: we've seen in NBA Circle and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: Like this is, like I said, this is something where
Speaker 1: you're giving away a guy who's gonna slip on a
Speaker 1: gold jacket, no question, that still has a ton of
Speaker 1: good football left. And you can't just give him away
Speaker 1: for oh, three first round picks at the end of
Speaker 1: the first round. That's not gonna fly.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if you would get three, when is
Speaker 3: the last time someone was trade for three first round picks?
Speaker 4: Well, quarterbacks end up getting traded for three first round pick.
Speaker 3: How much does the Brown straight for Deshound Watson?
Speaker 1: That would be three first round picks and three other picks.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe you try and get those back. The issue is,
Speaker 3: I can see Mile's Garrett not playing. That's that's if. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's if he's not gonna skip out on games, just
Speaker 3: say no, you know, shout out, Nancy Reagan. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying no to any trade of Miles Garrett. But if
Speaker 3: he's gonna miss out on games, then you kind of
Speaker 3: and you don't think he's bluffing on that, then you
Speaker 3: kind of got to work something out.
Speaker 1: All right, get back to our regularly scheduled I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to move my therapy appointment up today, guys, God
Speaker 1: damn it.
Speaker 3: Better help will let you change that around?
Speaker 4: For you. Ah brief joke. All right, let's move on
Speaker 4: to this.
Speaker 1: We'll probably have to cut a question or two, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna keep this one because I love it.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: This one is that you see Eagles head coach Nick
Speaker 1: Sirianni in a much different light than you did before
Speaker 1: this season started. One is heck No. Five is yep,
Speaker 1: sorry what I thought about you earlier this year, Nick Panick.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the two cause I kind of
Speaker 2: don't know what I am gonna give him credit for.
Speaker 2: Is great job being good friends with Vic Vangil and
Speaker 2: good job prying him out of Miami. Now that might
Speaker 2: I think Vangio did a lot to kind of get
Speaker 2: out of Miami after after your one. A lot of
Speaker 2: the players didn't like him, didn't work, doesn't work well
Speaker 2: with Mike McDaniel. But certainly seems like maybe he did
Speaker 2: it on purpose because he seems like he's always been
Speaker 2: a good fit with Philadelphia. I mean, he was even
Speaker 2: the he was the advisor. He was like the last
Speaker 2: minute advisor that the Eagles hired in that twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two Super Bowl. So I think he's done a very
Speaker 2: good job getting a staff together, even Kellen Moore, even
Speaker 2: though he has his flaws, But Howie Roseman just had
Speaker 2: one of the best off seasons you're ever going to
Speaker 2: see from a general manager. The two corners that they drafted,
Speaker 2: the two DB's that they drafted in Quinnon Mentroll, Cooper
Speaker 2: Degene or immediate impacts. Sequon Barkley is an immediate impact.
Speaker 2: They took a reclamation project in Makai Beckton and turned
Speaker 2: him into a starting guard who was an advantage as
Speaker 2: a rum blocker. I mean, it is so many other
Speaker 2: things that I'm not even that I'm not bringing up,
Speaker 2: Like one of the best off seasons that you're Zach
Speaker 2: Bond turned a guy that was that they threw away
Speaker 2: from New Orleans into an All Pro linebacker. One of
Speaker 2: the best offseason you ever gonna see. So yeah, Nick
Speaker 2: Sirianni leading this team. Good for him getting back to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. But I'm not totally changing my full
Speaker 2: opinion on him because the GM also did have, like
Speaker 2: I said, one of the best off seasons that we've
Speaker 2: ever seen.
Speaker 3: I'm at a three because nothing has changed for me.
Speaker 3: I thought this team is extremely talented, and I thought
Speaker 3: the coordinators were the biggest upgrade that any teams had
Speaker 3: really received this offseason, and you know, kind of our
Speaker 3: line for them was like, they're too talented to fail,
Speaker 3: even though they had failed the year before. So Sirianni
Speaker 3: has not gotten in the way of them winning similar
Speaker 3: to the way he has in the past. Obviously, the
Speaker 3: end of last year was a horrible coaching job, but
Speaker 3: you got rid of those coordinators and you've seen Sirianni
Speaker 3: win with good coordinators. So honestly, nothing has changed with
Speaker 3: me for Sirianni. I'm not going to sit here and
Speaker 3: tell you that he's this great advantage as a head coach,
Speaker 3: but also he has not proven to be a great
Speaker 3: disadvantage either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going high on this. It's either two
Speaker 4: or three.
Speaker 1: Because if we have a head coaching draft and we
Speaker 1: rank the head coaches, where does he sit right now?
Speaker 4: Guys? Middle of the pack at best?
Speaker 3: Right? Be good to revisit what our coaching how rankings are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to you want to look those
Speaker 4: up while we stall?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe maybe I will, but yeah, I yeah, I
Speaker 3: think he's middle of the pack. I think when you
Speaker 3: just like talk about like what coach would I want
Speaker 3: from my team starting up. I don't think he's ranked
Speaker 3: super high on that, but you can't put him low either. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I think he's middle of
Speaker 1: the pack. Who would you rather have right now?
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn or or Nick Sirianni?
Speaker 3: I'm dan Quinn. Yeah, I guess I'd say Quinn. I
Speaker 3: guess it's hot right now. But Quinn was also fired,
Speaker 3: you know, not too long ago, but.
Speaker 1: Right I mean, I don't know where's he ranking the
Speaker 1: NFC East coaching hierarchy right.
Speaker 3: Our average consensus preseason was eight. He had him eighteenth. Yeah, Rose,
Speaker 3: you had him sixteenth?
Speaker 4: Mmm?
Speaker 3: I had him? I had him? Where'd I have him?
Speaker 3: I hadn't twentieth? And then Justin had a eighteenth. I
Speaker 3: guess I don't know. Justin didn't put his in the email?
Speaker 4: Wow that guy? Yep. So there you go. We all
Speaker 4: still don't believe it.
Speaker 1: And guess what when he's sitting on the desk next
Speaker 1: to me in six days after they win the Super.
Speaker 4: Bowl, I'm going to ask him that question.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask because he knows, he knows that
Speaker 1: he doesn't get any love.
Speaker 4: What's the city?
Speaker 2: The city I feel like still hates him.
Speaker 4: I know it's weird, right.
Speaker 2: If there was a mini mic that went around like
Speaker 2: any one of those Instagram TikTok reels whatever, Right, if
Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to fail in the postseason, Who's
Speaker 2: who's going to be the culprit of it? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's like seventy five percent of the answers were Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's do uh, let's do this one.
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter has surpassed Chris Jones as a more disruptive
Speaker 1: force in the NFL.
Speaker 4: One is what are you thinking?
Speaker 1: Five is Yeah, that Carter kid is a beast, Bobby One.
Speaker 3: Because as much as Jalen Carter is a beast, you
Speaker 3: could say top five defensive tackle in the NFL, Chris
Speaker 3: Jones is number one. You know, he's better than him
Speaker 3: in every statistical category. I think he's better as a
Speaker 3: more consistent player in the run game as well. So
Speaker 3: Carter is amazing. It's not taking anything away from him,
Speaker 3: but it's just Chris Jones I think is the best
Speaker 3: defensive tackle and football. I think he's better than Dexter Lawrence,
Speaker 3: better than Quinn Williams. I don't think there's anyone that
Speaker 3: is at his level and what he's been able to
Speaker 3: do consistently. So it is a what are you thinking?
Speaker 3: Because as good as Jalen Carter has been, even in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, I think Chris Jones playoffs have been better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is according the Pro Football Reference too.
Speaker 2: I mean, Chris Jones has four seasons of twenty eight
Speaker 2: plus QB hits with one two, three seasons of ten
Speaker 2: plus sacks, four seasons of five seasons with nine plus
Speaker 2: sacks in the season. So Jalen Carter is a disruptor
Speaker 2: and one of the NFL those biggest disruptors at one
Speaker 2: at this point, at his stage of his NFL career.
Speaker 2: You see the double team rates. It's off the charts.
Speaker 2: It's one of the highest in the NFL. And you
Speaker 2: just you know, you watch the game of the impact
Speaker 2: that he has, it's there. But Jones has been that dude.
Speaker 2: Jones has been that disruptor for years plus. He's been
Speaker 2: able to back it up with the sacks, the hits
Speaker 2: and the tackles for loss and things like that. Carter's
Speaker 2: on his way and typically you see like these interior
Speaker 2: defensi alignment it takes them like three years to kind
Speaker 2: of get to that level where they're producing numbers. So
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see where Carter's year three has
Speaker 2: in store. But no, I'm I'm with Bobby like I'm
Speaker 2: around a one or two where Carter's that dude. But
Speaker 2: Chris Jones is, Chris Jones is the og of this.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm also going to say too, only because I
Speaker 1: don't think that we can measure Carter's ability to stay
Speaker 1: in between, to color inside the lines, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Uh, after just two years, like drive
Speaker 1: inside the lines? Okay, now now now now you made
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 1: He's a fantastic talent. Now, as far as just playoffs,
Speaker 1: I seem to remember this number and I went back
Speaker 1: to his game log. It took Chris Jones fourteen playoff
Speaker 1: games to register his first postseason sack.
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember that? Remember? He?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was last year, right, I think it was
Speaker 1: it was either last year two years. I know it
Speaker 1: was two years ago against Kansas City in the AFC
Speaker 1: title game. He got two sacks against Cincinnati. Sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: in the AFC title game. That's what He only has
Speaker 1: three and a half sacks in I think he's played
Speaker 1: twenty one playoff games.
Speaker 4: Something like that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy. He did get one earlier this season
Speaker 1: against Houston in the Divisional round. And we've seen what
Speaker 1: Jalen car ya. Jalen Carter, those last two defensive snaps
Speaker 1: against the LA Rams are probably why Philadelphia is going
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: And possibly not the Rams.
Speaker 1: So he can he can destroy time, and I think
Speaker 1: that'll be a fantastic matchup. Obviously now that Kansas City
Speaker 1: has moved to you know, Joe tune out to left
Speaker 1: tackle and calli Endo's in there in between Creed Humphrey
Speaker 1: and Tony a Player, Pro Bowlers and All pros as well.
Speaker 1: That'll be really interesting when Jalen Carter does match up
Speaker 1: right over the guard at some point during Super Bowl Sunday.
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Speaker 1: We will be giving our game predictions and breaking it
Speaker 1: down a little bit more football ye later in the
Speaker 1: week on our Friday edition of Football Today.
Speaker 4: But we'll finish with this little fun one.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good celebrity fan matchup between these teams.
Speaker 4: Chiefs.
Speaker 1: You got Jason Sadeikaz, Paul Rudd, Eric stone Street, and
Speaker 1: I keep hearing the Taylor Swift as a Chiefs fan.
Speaker 4: I can't confirm it.
Speaker 1: The Eagles have people like Kevin Hart and Bradley Cooper,
Speaker 1: Mike Trout, Miles Teller. They're all in a single team suite.
Speaker 1: You can only hang out in one pannic. Which one
Speaker 1: are you going to? Eagles fan or Chiefs fan?
Speaker 4: Sweet?
Speaker 2: This is tough because you can have Bradley Cooper can
Speaker 2: make a cheese steaks.
Speaker 3: Do you think he's making those in a sweet? Yes?
Speaker 2: I would, I would ask him to. I'm going with
Speaker 2: the Chiefs because the trio of Jason Sidegas, Paul run In,
Speaker 2: Eric stone Street. Put three of those people in a room.
Speaker 2: And then you know Taylor Swift. I could you know
Speaker 2: what I've always wanted to tail Taylor Swift if I
Speaker 2: if I see her in person? Okay, you wouldn't be
Speaker 2: you without Shania Twain. Shania Twain did it first. Shania
Speaker 2: Twain was the pioneer. She went from country to pop first,
Speaker 2: and she did it. She became the international superstar Shaniah walked.
Speaker 2: So Taylor can run, and that's what I would tell her,
Speaker 2: and then I would have a lot of fun with
Speaker 2: the trio of Jason Sega's Paul read eericstone Street the.
Speaker 3: Story that she grifted country music wavef for you, Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Wow, holy smokes. Okay, Bobby Skinner, this is a question
Speaker 1: right up your alley. I know you love these ones.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of you when I wrote it.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not gonna hang out with Eagles fans, so
Speaker 3: that's easy. And then the chiefs one like, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have all. Everyone's gonna be trying to get in the
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift shot on TV, so you're gonna have them.
Speaker 3: So the rest of the suite it's for you know, me,
Speaker 3: me and the boys. You know we no line for
Speaker 3: the food. Is just me and the boys hanging out
Speaker 3: watching the game, talking ball, joking around. Well, everyone want
Speaker 3: to get Taylor Swift's shot.
Speaker 2: You would want to get in the shot, though, you
Speaker 2: would do something crazy like what like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever you would want to do.
Speaker 3: Maybe i'd put a sticker like on the window or
Speaker 3: something you.
Speaker 2: Bring in a firecracker.
Speaker 1: The top dances in the back with Jackson Mahomes. I
Speaker 1: could definitely see that happening in the Chief Suite. Boy,
Speaker 1: this is a tough one. This is I actually like
Speaker 1: the question because those the fans are actually big time fans.
Speaker 1: They're not like fake fans.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember, but in Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two, Kevin Hart was hammered out of his
Speaker 1: gourd and came up on our set and it just
Speaker 1: sounds awful. Well, so for whatever reason, people still care
Speaker 1: when you swear on cable television. I never have understood it,
Speaker 1: but they do. So he started going off and Dion
Speaker 1: picked him up like he was a bouncer. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, you got to get out the club now,
Speaker 1: and he actually escorted him off of the stage, off
Speaker 1: of our little set. So I don't know if we
Speaker 1: can go through that again. So I guess I'll hang
Speaker 1: out in Kansas City. I'll see you in the Chief Suite, guys.
Speaker 1: It'll be fun. Get my picture with Tata.
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Speaker 1: All right, boys, we are back at it again later
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Speaker 1: break it down a little bit more in the football world,
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