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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle Podcast as we enter and break through week

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Speaker 1: sixteen of the NFL regular season. We say it every year,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get to like week four and we

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Speaker 1: start joking. Yeah, we're at the quarterway of the season

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Speaker 1: and then boom blink and it's Christmas time. We're just

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Speaker 1: mered days away from the holiday season. That's the great

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle. I'm Matt Taylor, nine year cult, two time

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Speaker 1: pro bowler Jack. A lot to get into, but first

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Speaker 1: of all, how you doing. How you settling in this

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Speaker 1: holiday season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing good. You knows, as you know, Matt,

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Speaker 2: with young kids, the chaos has started with school and

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Speaker 2: you know there's always something going on at school. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know already places to be, places to be,

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Speaker 2: gifts to get. So Casey's doing my Casey, my wife,

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Speaker 2: she's doing a great job in that department. I'm just

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Speaker 2: there for support, you know, sent text like yeah, good

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Speaker 2: job and keep it up. You're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: She's not gonna think that's very funny. It's it's the

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Speaker 1: truth though. Oh it's yeah. You have just just tell

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Speaker 1: me where to be, Yeah, tell me tell me, tell

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Speaker 1: me where to go, tell me where to be and

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Speaker 1: uh what to where?

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Speaker 2: Important? Yeah, just a little just a little moral support, right,

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Speaker 2: you know that's where That's where I'm at.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you rap or you a rapping guy?

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Speaker 2: No? Because I don't do it. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying I don't do it well on purpose.

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Speaker 1: I like to wrap, but it's not well. I think

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Speaker 1: it's very obvious the presence I wrap.

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Speaker 2: My presence. If I wrap a present, it's not allowed

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Speaker 2: to go like under the tree pre uh.

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Speaker 1: Pre Christmas, right, it's not allowed the picture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's got to be bad, you know. Put

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll put it in the back or keep keep

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Speaker 2: that in your closet until you know, until it's time.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but no, I I you know, arts and

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Speaker 2: crafts was never a strong suit of mine.

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Speaker 1: See what I do not do is I I don't

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Speaker 1: go to the trouble of finding the appropriate box for

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Speaker 1: the gift. So I'll just either wrap it as is,

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Speaker 1: or I'll put something way too big and too small

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Speaker 1: of a box or vice versa. And it's just incredibly awkward.

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Speaker 1: But guess what you wrap it, you know, you unwrap

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Speaker 1: it and there it is and You're equally is excited

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Speaker 1: regardless of what it looks like beforehand.

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Speaker 2: It's the thought that counts.

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Speaker 1: Matt, Come on, Man's absolutely all right, a lot to

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Speaker 1: get into. We're talking Colts, we're talking about the upcoming

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Speaker 1: game against the San Francisco forty nine ers. Obviously we're

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Speaker 1: got we have to start with the Philip Rivers performance.

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Speaker 1: What it looked like. That's all in the backdrop of

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Speaker 1: the Colts now on a four game losing skid. They've

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Speaker 1: lost five of their last six. Philip Rivers comes out

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Speaker 1: of retirement, first game since twenty twenty or the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty season, eighteen out of twenty seven for a buck

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Speaker 1: twenty one touchdown, the late interception, the Colts fall eighteen

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Speaker 1: to sixteen. How much joy and pleasure did you take

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Speaker 1: watching your old teammate go out there and do it

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Speaker 1: at age forty four?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I had so much fun watching him play man

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Speaker 2: and when he threw the touchdown, pass, the downs and

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Speaker 2: just the classic Philip expression, you know, the fist pump,

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Speaker 2: little lad kick there. I mean, he just looked like

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Speaker 2: himself out there and that was so fun. You know,

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Speaker 2: whenever they'd show him on the sideline, you know, you

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Speaker 2: saw him pacing back and forth talking to the guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, and that's the Phillip I remember. So to

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Speaker 2: watch him just bounce right back into it was a

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Speaker 1: Did you see anything that surprised you or anything that

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Speaker 1: took you off guard from what you saw out of

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Speaker 1: him with a you know whatever. It was a four

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Speaker 1: and a half year layoff. First came at eighteen hundred day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was impressive, Matt. You know, I

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Speaker 2: think everyone kind of went in there or went into

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Speaker 2: this game being like, what's this going to look like?

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Speaker 2: This guy hasn't played football in four and a half years,

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Speaker 2: five years, Like, I mean, that's insane. And he seemed

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Speaker 2: a whole. Yeah, to watch them all just kind of

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Speaker 2: What's cool to see.

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Speaker 1: Well, you look at the totality of the game, right

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Speaker 1: the Colts post two hundred fifteen yards of offense, Only

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Speaker 1: sixty seven of that came in the second half, Only

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Speaker 1: four first downs past halftime. Obviously going into the game

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Speaker 1: and Shane Stiken after the game's been very transparent. This

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Speaker 1: was by design. We wanted to and essence, shorten the game,

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Speaker 1: try to go on long drives, limit the possessions in

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Speaker 1: the firepower of the Seahawks, B ground and pound, focus

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Speaker 1: on Jonathan Taylor, get ourselves into third and manageable situations,

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Speaker 1: complete high percentage throws, get the ball out quick, involve

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Speaker 1: And it almost worked. It almost worked in credit to

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Speaker 1: the defense Situationally, the Colts defense was outstanding. The Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks were just They only had two third down conversions,

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Speaker 1: zero for two in the red zone. Colts didn't give

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Speaker 1: up a touchdown in the game. But how sustainable, I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: Shane's been very adamant that there's more out of Shane

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, more out of Philip that they can

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Speaker 1: get going forward. You know, it was kind of a

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Speaker 1: game plan centric type of a ballgame. And Rivers is

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Speaker 1: re debut if you will, for the Colts, But how

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Speaker 1: sustainable do you think Rivers' is performance and his skill

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Speaker 1: set is With the Colts having three games left and

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Speaker 1: still mathematically a decent chance of making the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think every game plan is going to

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Speaker 2: be different. So going into San Francisco, obviously it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a different plan. How do you beat the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers? And that's how the NFL is, you know, anyways,

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Speaker 2: whether you're signing a quarterback going and playing five years

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Speaker 2: trying to predict what kind of game it's going to be,

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Speaker 2: what kind of game do we want to make this?

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Speaker 2: And then how do we get a win? I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're going against a Seattle defense who hasn't given up

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Speaker 2: a touchdown the two weeks prior so it was in

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Speaker 2: going into their place. You know, that's a really tough challenge.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think a little bit. You know, this

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Speaker 2: is what you kind of want to play at this

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Speaker 2: time of year, right, you want to play good defense,

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Speaker 2: you want to establish a run game. You know, you're

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Speaker 2: you're trying to get ready for hopefully for playoff football

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Speaker 2: and keeping your hopes alive. But I think there's more

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Speaker 2: in there. I think I think Phillip's got more to give.

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Speaker 2: You know, another week with these guys and you get

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Speaker 2: in we get an all Electra day here for rest

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Speaker 2: for everybody going into Monday Night football. But I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, with Shane and Phil's brain and the way

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Speaker 2: they see offense, I think that you know, they can

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Speaker 2: untap a little more into the offensive game plan if

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Speaker 2: that's what they choose to do going into the forty

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Speaker 1: And we know going into Monday Night football, Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: is going to be the starting quarterback for the Colts,

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Speaker 1: and I still think that's the right move. I think

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Speaker 1: because of where the Colts are at in the season

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Speaker 1: and how unique of a situation this is. I think

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Speaker 1: the quarterback decision, which for the Colts, for you know,

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Speaker 1: the last three or four years, has been very polarizing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're just kind of back where we've been for the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years as it relates to just talking

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Speaker 1: at nauseam about the Colts quarterback situation. But but Devil's advocate, right,

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Speaker 1: what did what did the Colts miss out on? If

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Speaker 1: anything with Philip Rivers as the quarterback? Was it to

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Speaker 1: making more shots down the field? Can Philip Rivers do that?

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Speaker 1: Can he extend plays just a little bit longer? For

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Speaker 1: those that are advocating for Riley Leonard, what is it

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Speaker 1: about Philip rivers intangibly that he kind of makes up

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Speaker 1: for with you know, now two hundred and fifty one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, obviously you think of the mobility, right,

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Speaker 2: that's obviously Riley's strength if you know, you want to

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Speaker 2: go that path and fans want argue that, or you know,

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Speaker 2: you want to go with Philip and obviously he's not

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Speaker 2: going to be as mobile back there, and it never was.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I thought the Colts did a good

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Speaker 2: job of staying effishing on first down. I think that's

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Speaker 2: a credit to Philip. I think Shane I heard Shane

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Speaker 2: saying in one of his interviews, but how phil was

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Speaker 2: getting us in the right play and checking to some

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Speaker 2: runs to get us a second and seven right instead

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Speaker 2: of being second in ten right. That's that's a big

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Speaker 2: difference and going to be able to get first down.

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Speaker 2: So I think just you know, obviously the relationship with

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Speaker 2: same way, you know, they think they can, you know,

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Speaker 2: rely on on the skill players that we have and

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Speaker 2: if we get us in the right play, hey, we

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Speaker 2: have a really good chance of having a successful play

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Speaker 2: and staying with that efficiency that we saw early in

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Speaker 2: the season on first and second.

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Speaker 1: Now I think it was Alec Pierce. I love what

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Speaker 1: he said after the game. He said, you know, we

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Speaker 1: were in looks and I'm on the field with the

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Speaker 1: you know, checking into plays or checking out of plays

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Speaker 1: and Alex like, no, why would we do that?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: No, we need to run the ball against this front.

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Speaker 1: And then we checked to a pass And the reason

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Speaker 1: why we checked to a pass is because Philip knew

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Speaker 1: they were bluffing. Yeah, Philip knew they were lying. They

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Speaker 1: really they really weren't going to line up in what

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Speaker 1: they were showing. It's like, how does he know that? Like, God,

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Speaker 1: he's so smart, Like that's the kind of stuff that

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Speaker 1: the Colts really want to tap into the last three

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Speaker 1: games with Philip Rivers at Quarry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what he brings, right, That's that's his

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Speaker 2: greatest strength right now, Right, that's what.

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Speaker 1: You rely on it, I guess, muscle is this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that he's seen it more football than you know,

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Speaker 2: probably the whole Colts offense combined right, I mean you

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Speaker 2: add up all the guys, Yeah, how all much film

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Speaker 2: they've watched and yeah, all the stars. Yeah it's probably

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Speaker 2: probably honestly, probably pretty close, but uh but yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: it's amazing the way he can see a game and

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Speaker 2: from being off of it. Right, I know he was

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Speaker 2: still involved in in high school football, and you know

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Speaker 2: he's a football junkie. You know he's watching every every

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Speaker 2: NFL game. I know that about him. You know he's

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Speaker 2: got the red zone package, but uh.

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Speaker 1: He's got more than that.

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Speaker 2: He's got more than that, right, he's but just getting

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Speaker 2: us in the right play and and and and the

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Speaker 2: guys are trusting him. And another thing, he brought the energy, right,

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Speaker 2: The energy looked different with this team, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: going into a hostile environment, and it's infectious. I've always

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Speaker 2: said that about Phil. His the way he just carries himself,

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Speaker 2: it's just infectious to the whole room. He walks in

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Speaker 2: a room, that room changes because Phil Rivers is in

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Speaker 2: And it's not like, you know, there hasn't been a

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Speaker 1: the biggest legs in the NFL and knocks down a

433
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Speaker 1: fifty six yard field goal. But the truth of the

434
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Speaker 1: matter is the Colts have allowed twenty nine completions over

435
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Speaker 1: fifteen yards in the last four games. During this four

436
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Speaker 1: game losing skid, some big completions to Rashid Shaheed. Last week,

437
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba had two big games. He had

438
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Speaker 1: over one hundred yards last week, even though it was

439
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Speaker 1: kind of a deceptive one hundred yard game, right, doesn't

440
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Speaker 1: kill you terms of you know, a huge output that

441
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Speaker 1: you allowed, but you still lose the game. But how

442
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 1: big of an issue has the big play propensity on

443
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Speaker 1: defense been during this four game slide?

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's tough, Matt, you know, because you

445
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 2: go look at the stats, like if a team has

446
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Speaker 2: an explosive play on a drive, I forget what the

447
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: stat And again I used to They used to show

448
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: this to us a lot when I was playing. I

449
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 2: don't but the numbers of scoring just goes way way up,

450
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Speaker 2: and way of scoring a touchdown go way way up. Yeah,

451
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 2: So you got to find a way to shut those down.

452
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 2: And it's all about team defense. Obviously, we have some

453
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: you know, injuries on the back end that that make

454
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: it tough, and those you know, the guys that were

455
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: in there were competing their butts off, and you know

456
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: it's tough to cover those those receivers and their speed

457
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: for a long time. And then you know, the pass

458
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Speaker 2: rush has got to be a little better. It was there,

459
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Speaker 2: you know, I felt like it was there a little

460
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Speaker 2: bit in the first half and then the second half,

461
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Speaker 2: I felt like Darnold was kind of sitting back there

462
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Speaker 2: a little too long. And you know that you got

463
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Speaker 2: to give them if you don't have time to get

464
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Speaker 2: those explosive plays right, you know, and you can get

465
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Speaker 2: that pass rush in here, that'd be huge. So yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: I know that that's what the defense wants to kind

467
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 2: of shut down. But you know, at the same time,

468
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: they're shutting down the early down efficiency, right and trying

469
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Speaker 2: to shut that down. So it's tough, right, and you know,

470
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Speaker 2: you honestly, you know, you want to just get some

471
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Speaker 2: more explosive on our offensive side of the ball to

472
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Speaker 2: kind of negate those and they can kind of cancel

473
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Speaker 2: each other out because it is the NFL, and people

474
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: are going to make plays, right, you know, you can't

475
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: you can't expect, and.

476
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Speaker 1: In a game like that, when it's so close, it

477
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Speaker 1: almost favors the team that has the more explosives.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's huge. They mean that much more

479
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: like you're saying, Matt and yeah, so and they just

480
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: and it came at the wrong time, right, you know,

481
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: that's the tough.

482
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Speaker 1: Part end of half, an end of game.

483
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Speaker 2: You know what was crazy Matt, I want to hear

484
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Speaker 2: your perspective on this. When Seattle started calling those timeouts

485
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 2: when we had the ball, were you surprised by that

486
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 2: or did you kind of feel what they were trying

487
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: to do there?

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like they knew that the Colts were

489
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Speaker 1: going to be in all likelihood in a situation to

490
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Speaker 1: kick a field goal, and they had confidence in Blake

491
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Speaker 1: group And by the way, what confidence right there to

492
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: drill a sixteen part field goal? And you know what

493
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: a take too by the Colts there on? Was it

494
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: third and seven to run the ball right there? Because

495
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: if they throw an incompletion, you're probably right on the

496
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: very end of the fringe of roopie field goal range.

497
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Speaker 1: So at least you give yourself a chance or be

498
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Speaker 1: in a position to be able to take the lead

499
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Speaker 1: with a long field goal. But in that situation too,

500
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: Seattle's taking timeouts, I did think it was the right

501
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: call by them to defensively burn all their timeouts so

502
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: that they could set themselves up. I mean, the way

503
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Speaker 1: they wanted the game to end is exactly the way

504
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: it ended. A good return field position, good one play

505
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: over the middle to Shaheed and not having a timeout

506
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: in that situation didn't kill them because they had great

507
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: two minuted execution. Donold's on the ball, spikes it. Here

508
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: comes Jason Myers for the field goal, and you know,

509
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: credit to I mean, every team, as you know, has

510
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: the analytic department or the game managing department, you know,

511
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: people in the ear of the head coach. In this case,

512
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald tip of the cap to them. I thought, yeah,

513
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: the way they executed was you know, it was perfect.

514
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Speaker 2: Exactly how they wanted to, like you said, man, and

515
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: just the new kickoff rule, I mean, as I feel

516
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Speaker 2: like as.

517
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Speaker 1: A fan, that won them the game.

518
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to change, Yeah, you have to change

519
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: your mindset of like not how easy it is to

520
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: get in field goal range, but it's just it's pretty easy.

521
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: And the way these kickers are making kicks now, it's

522
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: just it's amazing how just it basically takes but one

523
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: first down.

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Speaker 1: You know, I heard people say, why do you just

525
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: kick the ball out of the end zone or kick

526
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: it into the end zone time? Well, but you're going

527
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Speaker 1: to give it to them to thirty five? Yeah, and

528
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: they don't have to time.

529
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what they get at the thirty seven I

530
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: think that because they yeah, it's.

531
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Speaker 1: A two yard difference, but still like that's you know,

532
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: six or seven questions or seconds rather than Yeah, I.

533
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Was thinking yeah with the time, Yeah, you don't want

534
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: to give them at the thirty five because then yeah, right,

535
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: it's a first down. So yeah, I think that as

536
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: a fan too. It's like, Colts make the kick. I

537
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: see what forty some seconds or whatever it was on

538
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: the clock. They have no timeouts? Good, And I'm like, oh, wait,

539
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: the kickoff's different. I'm like, yeah, we got to play here,

540
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: like you know, that's what I was thinking, Like, they're

541
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: going to have pretty good field position, more than likely

542
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: to start this drive.

543
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Speaker 1: This is exactly where the new kickoff is.

544
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: It just it's changed.

545
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Its changing so much of the game impact of the

546
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: outcome of this game.

547
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's changed the game so much. And the way

548
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to re teach my brain of how it

549
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: works now and how you know where offensive starting field

550
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: position is.

551
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Speaker 1: You don't want to kick it into the end zone

552
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: because you get it to thirty five, and you don't

553
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: want to kick it out of bounds because it get

554
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: it at.

555
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: The forty No, yeah, and then and you want the

556
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: time to tick right. You want to with forty something.

557
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: You want to hopefully that kickoff play can take five

558
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: six seconds or whatever it is, right and you can

559
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: run some more time off.

560
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: So just didn't cover it.

561
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's just different. It's just it's it's kind

562
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: of changed. It's changed the game a little bit in

563
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 2: that way.

564
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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about a defense. I want to

565
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Speaker 1: spotlight a certain guy because the defense did play so well,

566
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: but one guy within the defense I thought had a

567
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a you know, coming out parties. Maybe

568
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 1: he's not the right phrase, but he certainly played well

569
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: enough for us to discuss him individually. Here Laatu Latsu. Yeah,

570
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: sack three tackles for loss, and he was a menace

571
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: on the edge playing against the run the Seahawks. They

572
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: only had fifty yards rushing in that game. So everybody

573
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: along that defensive line gets, you know, a tremendous amount

574
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: of credit. But let's put the spotlight on Layatu Latu.

575
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: Where are you seeing him again starting to pop a

576
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: little bit late in his sophomore campaign.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the confidence, right, and that's huge. And

578
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: you know when when a pass rusher has confidence, they're

579
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: moving a little more efficiently right, and they're timing up

580
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: their hands right, and you know he was able to

581
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: get that sack. They went with a quick snap on

582
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: the third down and you know, slid the line and

583
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: he gets a back and he's probably, yeah, licking his

584
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: shops right, like, yes, here we go, and he does

585
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: the right thing. He should win that battle. He wins

586
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: that battle right and gets a sack, and that's just

587
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: going to help build confidence. I think those like I said,

588
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: you get pass rusher's confidence. You know that they start

589
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: to find that rhythm, the timing of their hands and

590
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot of hand fighting when when

591
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: you're a pass rusher against the offensive tackle. So yeah,

592
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: I think that was great to see and again build

593
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: his confidence and hopefully he can carry that momentum. You know,

594
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: maybe he was liking being back on the West Coast

595
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: and yeah that was bringing some juice back to it.

596
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: But back in Washington, yeah that would be good.

597
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: So hopefully, yeah, again he can carry that momentum moving forward.

598
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a front row seat. I mean

599
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: you play next to the tackles in the running game,

600
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: and so right across from you on that line of

601
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: scrimmage are these defensive ends young guys, Jack, can you

602
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: put into words how long it takes for them to

603
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: really hone their craft and become really comfortable where they

604
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: can be game changers and game wrecords. You know, it's

605
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: a tough position to play for first and six first

606
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: and second year players.

607
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is tough, you know, And that's why they

608
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: get paid so much. Let's be honest about it, right,

609
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean, and they drafted high and then drafted high,

610
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: and they get paid that much because they can change

611
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 2: a game when they're when they're playing. You know, they

612
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: can be game wreckers when they're when they're playing to

613
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: their the way you want him to play. But yeah,

614
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: it's a tough position, right, and especially when you know,

615
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: as a tight end, like you're saying, when I'm playing

616
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: that tackle and I know there's a guy, especially when

617
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: there's a young guy and he's kind of like maybe

618
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: he gets locked in on the tackle. You know, you

619
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: can give those guys a little bumps and you know,

620
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: you can mess with them a little bit and you

621
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: know everything, and then you know, there was he had

622
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: a play in the game where they brought a I'm

623
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: just speaking of lat too. They had a receiver come

624
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: down and block down on him right, and he spun

625
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: out of it, right, And that's great awareness and had

626
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: that tackle for loss for like five yards when they

627
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: were Seattle was kind of backed up, but being able

628
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: to just have the awareness right, And that's where you're

629
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: seeing the growth right first year, right, Maybe first year

630
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: he probably wouldn't have felt that wide receiver doing the

631
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: down block on him right, But now he was ready

632
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: for it, came out of it. And maybe he's in

633
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: his film study and he's starting to see you know,

634
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: you can study all the film you want, but can

635
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: you translate it to on the field right? And that

636
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: takes time, right, it really does. And and the way

637
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: the offenses are trying to attack you, so I think

638
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: you can see. I think again you're starting to see

639
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: the growth right, and again hopefully that the confidence can

640
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, help with his rhythm and his timing of

641
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: his past rush and and just playing with you know,

642
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: playing with that confidence, playing with that energy, right, good

643
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: things are kind of gonna go your way.

644
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: When the light bulb goes off for a player, specifically

645
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: in this case, a defensive end, do you know it

646
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: when you see it? Like this guy, he's got it.

647
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: He's in the zone and he's he's passed some of

648
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: those initial growing pains.

649
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you can see it, you

650
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: know from a fan watching at home. Right, they just

651
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: move different, right, and they got a little bounce to him, right.

652
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: They usually they start playing with a little bit of

653
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: a smile. Right. It's not the confused like, yeah, this

654
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: is too much trying not to screw yeah, try toeah

655
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: exactly right now, trying not to get yelled at in

656
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: the meeting on Monday, Right, it's not that. It's hey,

657
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: I'm out here playing football, right and I'm having fun

658
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: doing it, and you just see a different bounce in

659
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: his steps. So again, hopefully that can continue.

660
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that where the phrase the eye

661
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: in the sky comes from? Like the film doesn't.

662
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: Lie, don't lie?

663
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean, like you can tell when a

664
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: guy is based on their their body movement. You can

665
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: tell when they're thinking and when they're trying not to

666
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: not to screw up or just you know in the

667
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: back of their mind, you know, self consciously thinking about

668
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: always trying to be in the right place at the

669
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: right time instead of just going out there and making

670
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: a play and playing free.

671
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: Be a football player, right, you know, and once you can,

672
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, get the scheme down and get your job

673
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: down and you're not having to overthink that too much. Yeah,

674
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: and then then you can go back to you know,

675
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: why you were drafted.

676
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: To be a football player or your initial traits.

677
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, your traits, your abilities, that the things that you

678
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 2: can do well, your strengths, like let's see those on film.

679
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, the old eye and the sky doesn't lie. Man,

680
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: you better how many times you hear that? Oh yeah,

681
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: all the time. You know, you'd come to the sideline

682
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: and you know, there'd be like preseason games where you know,

683
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: a guy who's kind of fighting for a spot and

684
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: you know he's like, oh, what'd you see here? And

685
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, they're in a you know, I'm speaking

686
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 2: from a tight end. So six technique is a head up.

687
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: Sure se in his inside on a tight end and

688
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense, and then a nine is outside. Yeah,

689
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: but you'd be like, oh, yeah, he was in a

690
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: seven technique, So I made this call and the coach

691
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: be like, the sky doesn't lie. Find out, we're gonna see,

692
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna see. So so yeah, that that film and

693
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: the film is different. Now they have every angle and

694
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: it's an HD so yeah, yeah, you can see it all.

695
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: You can't. Yeah, that's eighty four. It's definitely eighty four.

696
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: You can't blur out the number.

697
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: No, it's not, it's not. Yeah, back in the back

698
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: in the day, maybe you could go, oh, yeah, it's

699
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: that fifty two. Oh you thought you're going to fifty three. No,

700
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: you can't really tell.

701
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: You had so many plays where it's like, God, that's

702
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: gonna look so bad.

703
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh, isn't that the worst? Yea, you gotta flush it, Matt, Yeah,

704
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: you flush it. Next play, Yeah, next play.

705
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: One bad play can't lead to too No, it can't.

706
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: But yeah it worked over You're like, God, that's gonna

707
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: look so bad tomorrow.

708
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: My friends are gonna make fun of me, like you

709
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: do you get that little light? Yeah, Oh I just

710
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: looked like an idiot. I just fell down for no reason.

711
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but lost my balance, you know, break contain, like,

712
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna get ripped for this tomorrow,

713
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: you know. And the initial. I know people don't care

714
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: about this, but the initial, like you just get a

715
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: pit in your stomach, like when you when you don't

716
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: do your job. You're one eleventh in your responsibility and

717
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: it leads to like whatever it is like speaking as

718
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: a defensive player an explosive play or a first down

719
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: or a seven yard game, and you're like, that's because

720
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: of me. Yeah, Like that's the worst feeling in the world.

721
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: But that's what you're supposed to feel.

722
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that needs care.

723
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: That's why football is the ultimate team game. You should

724
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: feel like that. You should you should have a pit

725
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: in your stomach and shay like that's how you should feel,

726
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: and you know you don't want to let your teammates down.

727
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: Those are the type of guys you want.

728
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Man, we're speaking the same language right there,

729
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: the language of Monday Night Football is what I want

730
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: to close out here with Monday Night stage. For the Colts,

731
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: it's the first time all year they've played in primetime,

732
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: first time they played on Monday Night Football since twenty

733
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: twenty two when they played the Chargers that year. Jack

734
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: Doyle is Monday Night Football. I mean, there's so many

735
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: different Gosh, there's so many standalone windows now right there's

736
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: there's international games, Thursday night, Monday night, Sunday night, Saturday

737
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: games here late in the season when college football kind

738
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: of dies off. Is Monday night football still special?

739
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

740
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: I think players.

741
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, maybe it's kind of been water

742
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: down a little bit because there is so many There's

743
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: a Thursday night game and probably soon when do the

744
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: Saturday game start? We got Black Friday game, Yeah, Black Friday.

745
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's so many, like you said, standalone games.

746
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: But Monday night, Monday Night football, it's still different, right

747
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: because that's what you remember as a kid, right, I

748
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: mean that's what you remember, like the song going into

749
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: Monday Yeah, yeah, going into Monday Night football, and then

750
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: you're getting ready for the game, and you know, you

751
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: see the NFL what they what do they call the

752
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Monday Night Countdown Team? You see them out on the field,

753
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: right and seeing you know today man that former great

754
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: players like Steve Young, Chris Burban, Susie Colbert.

755
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, like that was legit. It was legit.

756
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: It's like here we go, We're we're the only show

757
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: in town. Like, let's go play. So there, you definitely

758
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: get a little extra juice going into Monday night football.

759
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: How did you feel when you played on Monday Night football.

760
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm not talking like physically. I mean, did you feel

761
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: larger than life? Like, did you feel more talented than

762
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: you were the lack of a better term, Yeah, because

763
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: like you were the only game on.

764
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of like Matt, we talked about this

765
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: on a couple of episodes ago. But like you know

766
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: when we in the state finals, when you're in high

767
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: school and then you go on to like you go

768
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: on to it. Yeah, you feel invincible, right, you feel like, man,

769
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: I got this, Like, you know, all my friends that

770
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they didn't get to watch me, and

771
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: you know, you know they live in somewhere else and

772
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: we're not in the regional coverage of the right, Like, yeah,

773
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: they're watching me tonight. They get television. Let's go here

774
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: we go.

775
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: Every bar in America is playing this all game.

776
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: It's on. It's on everywhere, right and in every in

777
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: every sense of the way. It's just it just does.

778
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: It gives you an extra juice, and you know you

779
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: feel that amongst your teammates, right, it's a ton of

780
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: fun playing on Monday night football.

781
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: All right, So take me through the preparation of Monday night.

782
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean, some people are gonna say, oh, you're playing

783
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: is that a good reaction says it all right there,

784
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, you're playing one day later, big deal.

785
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: How different can it be? I mean, you guys are

786
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: so routine driven and routine oriented. How big of a

787
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: throwoff does this, you know, throw into your guys's routine

788
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: in preparation?

789
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the extra day is nice, right, and get especially

790
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: when you just had a long trip out to Seattle. Right,

791
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: get these, I mean, just get some extra sleep. Let's

792
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: try and catch up on our sleep a little bit,

793
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: and going into this week. And then it feels very normal,

794
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: right as you're going through the week, Like you could

795
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: tell me it's Thursday and the rest of the world,

796
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: but it's Wednesday to me, right, And I mean that's

797
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: what it is as.

798
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: A player, right, it's psychologically it's Friday and the rest

799
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: of the world.

800
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: No, it's Thursday. It's third down and Blitz day. Like,

801
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I had no idea what was going on

802
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 2: in the outside world, right, you know, my wife would

803
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 2: be like, yo, the kids at school today. I'm like, no,

804
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: it's not Thursday, it's Wednesday. Like that doesn't make any sense.

805
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 2: So you get you get your routine in that sense,

806
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: and then it kind of stinks when you have to

807
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: wait for the game all day on Monday.

808
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: It's cruciating.

809
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: It's the worst.

810
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the way I mean think, First of all,

811
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: it's a day later, but it starts about as late

812
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: in the day the next day after Sunday as possible.

813
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's eight fifteen.

814
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: But it's awesome to have a home game.

815
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: That helps.

816
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that definitely helps. It stinks when you're away and

817
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: you're just kind of trapped in a hotel room and

818
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I guess I'll take a nap, but

819
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: I can't sleep. I just have like I'm stressed about

820
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: the freaking game coming up, right, I mean, I'm worried

821
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: about trying to blog blah blah.

822
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: Blah, analysis by analysis.

823
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you just you can't. You don't really sleep.

824
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: You're just kind of laying there in the days, getting

825
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: ready for the game. But it's a it's like it's

826
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: an honor right to play on Monday night football. You

827
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: said you grew up watching these guys, So you know,

828
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: we're complaining about the little things, right, and it doesn't

829
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: really matter because you get to go play in the NFL.

830
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: So so yeah, it was always a ton of fun.

831
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: What about the back end though, Yeah, that's stuff fall

832
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: because now it's a short week.

833
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: That's tough because you know, it's hard, it's hard to sleep, right.

834
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: I remember we played on Monday night football. We had

835
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: a home We didn't have many home games on Monday.

836
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: If I don't thinking of one, am I wrong? I'm

837
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: thinking of one, like back in fourteen against the Eagles, Yeah,

838
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly. Yeah, And I remember I couldn't I couldn't

839
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: fall asleep after it, right, I remember, like I was

840
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: up to like I probably got home at like whatever

841
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 2: time midnight one. I don't know what time you get

842
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: home after a home running at football game, whatever it was.

843
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: And then it's like I'm just laying there because my

844
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: adrenaline is through the roof. You know. We just played

845
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: a tight game, you know, and I think we lost

846
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: that game, but we played a tight game, and you

847
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: just can't calm yourself down, right. There's not like the

848
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 2: plane ride to calm down or things like that. Right,

849
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: So I'm just laying in my bed, staring at the ceiling, yeah,

850
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: waiting for my yeah, thinking of that play that we tell,

851
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: you know, the film to play. I don't want the

852
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: rest of the team to see right, thinking about that play,

853
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to see if my iPad has loaded

854
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: up to see if I can watch the film to

855
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: try and call my brain. But but yeah, it's tough

856
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: on the back end, right, because then you got to

857
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: kind of rush back into the swing of things. But

858
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, the coaches do a good job of handling

859
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: that and making sure guys get the you know, physically

860
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: get themselves ready for you know, go into the next Right.

861
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite personal individual Monday Night football

862
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: memory from your playing day?

863
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just thought of that Eagles game. The

864
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: first game or my first touchdown was on Monday Night

865
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: football and it was on my wife's birthday. Yeah, so

866
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: that was really cool. And my first NFL touchdown that

867
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: was you know, early. I think it was like a

868
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: week two. What year was fourteen? Fourteen Eagles? Okay, we

869
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: ran the ball and we were running. And I played

870
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: a lot too. My rookie year in thirteen, I played

871
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: very little on offense, just here and there, come in there,

872
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: go do an io block, get the heck out, play

873
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: some special teams. But that year in fourteen, I played

874
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more. It was similar stuff io block,

875
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, and we ran a little more thirteen personnel,

876
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: and we used to have these like no huddle plays

877
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: that we would run with peb with some unbalanced stuff,

878
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: and we were running. I remember us running a ton

879
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: of counterplays from the I formation and Trent Richardson was

880
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: going a little bit, yeah, Bradshaw was going a little bit.

881
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: We ended up losing that game, but yeah, I remember

882
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: scoring my first touchdown and cool story about my first touchdow.

883
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever said it on this

884
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: So I like dive and I like die for the pylon, right,

885
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: and the ball kind of squirts out and I kind

886
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: of get mob by Dwayne Allen. But I remember coming

887
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: to the sideline and our equipment guy t being like, hey,

888
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 2: don't worry about the ball. Reggie Wayne grabbed it for you. Yeah,

889
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, man, how cool is that? I

890
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: think I've told this story before, but but I was like,

891
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: Reggie Wayne knew that was my first touchdown. I was like,

892
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: this was like my hero growing up. So that was

893
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: a really cool moment for me.

894
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: How freaking cool.

895
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

896
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: The type of guy Reggie Wayne is, yeah, I mean

897
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer, right, and here you are no

898
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: disrespect to you.

899
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: At the time, I probably stealing his touchdown, right, he

900
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: was probably open.

901
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: That's not where I'm going. But I just been like

902
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: a young guy. But to have the presence of mind

903
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: to respect your teammates, to be there for your teammates us,

904
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: to know who you were and what your story was

905
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: in your background, hometown kid, to go after that ball

906
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: to make sure you have it. Yeah, that's amazing, so cool.

907
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he he didn't know how many times I was

908
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: in the backyard emulating Reggie Wayne right right, you know,

909
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: running comeback routes and trying to be the late hands

910
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: like him. So yeah, that's definitely that's you know, that's

911
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: probably my top.

912
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: Is he aware of how special of a is for you? Yeah?

913
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've told him that he like

914
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: I think I did, and like in the moment, like

915
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: I said like thanks for getting the ball, or he

916
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: said something like that, you know, way back into here

917
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: you are eleven year Yeah, yeah, it's like still my

918
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: coolest NFL moment, right, I mean, that's it right there,

919
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Like the guy, you know, the guy that was your hero,

920
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: you know, gets you know, you know, thinking of you

921
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: to get the ball. And make sure you get to

922
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: keep it. So so really cool.

923
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: Where's the ball now?

924
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Is that my grandma's house? It's that my grandma's I

925
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: gave it to my grandma and grandpa.

926
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: We've talked.

927
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this once before, I think and

928
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: uh so, yeah, Grandma's got the football. So really cool.

929
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to Reggie Wayne Man, Yeah, my man, fantastic.

930
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's close out the pod cast. We always

931
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: do this. We always have some fun. If you're new

932
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: to the podcast, first of all, we appreciate you joining us.

933
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: We hope that you stick around and come back in

934
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: weeks later. But we always close out with a little

935
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: fun segment here called you Don't Know Jack, which means

936
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: we get to know Jack Doyle a little bit better

937
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: outside of him wearing the Colt's helmet and the Colts pads.

938
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: So here's the question for you this week, Jack Doyle,

939
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit better. What's

940
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: the app on your phone or app on your iPad

941
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: that you use the most?

942
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: You know, I sure don't. I don't really try to

943
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: use my phone as much as possible. So like the

944
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: lame answer is like, yeah, I use messages, I use okay, email,

945
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: I use phone.

946
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: Being but you're not like you know, twenty sixteen Andrew,

947
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: look flip phone guy.

948
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: No, I have an iPhone. Okay, I have kids, like

949
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I got to get photos of them and you know

950
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Fair enough, but no, the app I've

951
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 2: been using. Okay, man, so I don't use this app

952
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: the most, right, But this fun new app I've been

953
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: playing and my kids just got me on it. Okay,

954
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 2: we're found Retro Bowl on the apps.

955
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Retro Bowl.

956
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: Retro Bowl, so like the old school, like you just

957
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: use your finger and I can just move the guy

958
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: left and right to kind of juke and football. It's NFL.

959
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: It's NFL Retro Bowl. Yeah. I'll be like, they'll like

960
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: be playing it at whatever, like you know, maybe I'm

961
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: doing something. I'm you know, giving them thirty minutes on

962
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: my phone or what you trying to do too much

963
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: of it whatever, right, and I'll be like, all right,

964
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: you guys are done. You're done, and then I'll take it.

965
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, let me finish the season. We finish the

966
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: season for real fast. No, you don't, you know you

967
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: see the pressure here, you want to hit the tight end,

968
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: you know, shake it down. Yeah, giving them some you know,

969
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm just over their shoulder coaching them up. But they're

970
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: better than me at the game because I can't you know,

971
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. I know what I'm seeing,

972
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: but I can't. I can't do it with my fingers.

973
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: So so yeah, Retro Bowl, that's you know, little throwback.

974
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a techmobile, but it's called retro Bowl,

975
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: so it's a it's I guess that's the app I'm

976
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: going to now, right.

977
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: So that the down loads of retro Buwl or Spiking Viking.

978
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll be looking for that stipend you know,

979
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: coming soon from metro Bul's it.

980
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Baby, good job right there. Jack Doyle not a phone guy,

981
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: He's not a flip flip phone guy, but he is

982
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: in the twenty first century. Here's you can text him,

983
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: all right.

984
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: I get eye messages.

985
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am a nice little three dots for show

986
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: up when Jack Doyle responds to you. He has email too,

987
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: by the way, so that's good. So we're making baby

988
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: steps here with Jack Doyle. Fantastic job, man, appreciate that time.

989
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: As always. That's Jack Doyle. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for

990
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: listening and watching boil Boy. Big game coming up on

991
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: Sunday for the Colts. Philip Rivers back at quarterback and

992
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: the Colts looking to break a four game losing skit

993
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: and playing at home on Monday Night Football on the

994
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Monday Night stage again for the first time since twenty

995
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: and twenty two Week seventeen next week as the Colts

996
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: again return home to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars. Next

997
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: week's gonna be busy, obviously with the holiday season here,

998
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: so we'll be back talking Colts football, the latest and

999
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: greatest with the team on the Colts podcast channel again.

1000
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: For Jack, I'm Matt, thanks for watching, Thanks for listening. Everybody.

1001
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. Go Colts.