1 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: The one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. 2 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Friday, Chris Brown, 3 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker and joined by Bill's reporter Mattie glab As. 4 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: We will recap day three of training camp for you. So, uh, 5 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: interesting day because it kind of went back and forth 6 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: a little bit as we had the passing game for 7 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: the Bills offense clicking early in the opening session, but 8 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: then the defense came back roaring with takeaways at the 9 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: end of the practice, So it was kind of a 10 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: back and forth type of session. I think a lot 11 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: of people felt Day one, Maddie and by the way, 12 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: welcome in. 13 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Good to see you, happy to be here. 14 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: And Day one, I think most people would give to 15 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: the offense. Day two, yesterday seem like more people wanted 16 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: to hand it to the defense, and today it kind 17 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: of went flip flop back and forth. 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: Through the course of the day. 19 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: It was only a matter of time until the defense 20 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: really stood out in a team period. Yesterday we saw 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 4: a takeaway out of the defense their first of training camp, 22 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 4: and today we saw multiple takeaways toward the end of practice. 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: So it's always great seeing those guys get involved in 24 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: things and It'll be interesting to see what happens when 25 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: the pads go on, because that's really the true test 26 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: of all of this. Right now, they've got hats and 27 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: t shirts on and you're playing, but you don't have 28 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: the pads on yet. So I'm excited to see who 29 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: starts to win. More practices on on Monday pads. 30 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, no question about it. That we tend to read 31 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 5: too much into it. I mean, it's the first couple 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: of days of training camp. Nobody's really hitting. It's not 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 5: real football, it's it's more learning environment. But I will 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 5: notice this that it's been a wide swings momentum. The 35 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: first day was all offense. The second day the defense 36 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: played really well, and today it was both. The offense 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: was smoking hot at the beginning of practice and then 38 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: the defense, like three straight plays where they were interception 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 5: interception interception. They really played a lot better and we 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: even noticed on one on ones where the defense was 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 5: starting to find its legs the pass rushers and stuff. 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 5: And we said it earlier in the week. Offensive guys 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 5: can go out and they can throw a whole route 44 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: combinations against air. They can go out and throw and 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 5: get their timing down. Do all that defenders they don't 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 5: ever get to do that because it can't defend air, 47 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 5: you can't defend their right. 48 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a little time. 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 5: But with every passing day and every passing practice, the 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 5: defense is getting a little bit more comfortable, a little 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: more comfortable, a little more familiar with each other, and 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 5: the communications getting better, and in short order they'll they're 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: gonna do more than hold their own. 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Like they did today. 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: I will say that that first opening passing session, which 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: was in the red area for the most part, I 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: think they. 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Were it was in thirty yard line, it was in 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: the defensive end of the field. 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: They were at the thirty yard line going in eleven 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: on eleven. And we talked to Josh yesterday on the show, Maddie, 62 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: and he was talking about all these clear out routes 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: that Joe Brady has incorporated even more heavily into the 64 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: offense to set up guys running wide open. And you 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: saw it in that first series of practice. I mean, 66 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: Dawson Knox, there isn't a player around him for ten 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: yards all the way around him because two guys ran 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: the clear out over the top of him and he's 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: sitting underneath in that pocket. Khalil Shakiir ran a rub 70 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: route with Keon Coleman and Shakira is down the shoot 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: down the sideline wide open. Steve, I know you saw 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: that because he ran right by us for a touchdown. 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: After hearing Josh yesterday, Maddy and then seeing this today, 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,279 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I'm very encouraged about 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: the scheming that Joe Brady's gonna do for this offense 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: this year. 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Joe Brady talked about Josh Allen as a 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: quarterback and as a player on this team, taking more 79 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: onus of everything, taking more ownership of how I go 80 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: about my job, of how I interact with these new 81 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 4: players around me. He went into the meeting room. Joe 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: Brady did describing Josh this year is different and that 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: he knows there are new players on this team who 84 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: has to create chemistry with and instead of being like, hey, 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw it here and this guy is gonna 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: go over here and catch the ball, is Josh Allen 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: is more or less taking guys through things. This is 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: what's going through my mind on this play. This is 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: where my feet are, this is where I think you 90 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: should be, and let's converse. Let's have a conversation about 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: how this is going to play out on the practice 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: field as we saw today, and our offensive coordinator Joe 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: Brady also went through. You know, I want Josh to 94 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: be able to go through these progressions and have understanding 95 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 4: of how things are unfolding. We saw that last season, 96 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: but this season maybe he takes that a step forward, 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: just in the knowledge part of the game. 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 3: But Steve, we talked about this the other day. 100 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: If you're not going to have an alpha male number 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: one wide receiver, you're gonna need your coordinator to help 102 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: scheme guys open, Yeah, to kind of facilitate and make 103 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: up for that kind of a loss of a true 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: one on one winner, no. 105 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: Matter what the defensive coverage is. 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: And the early signs are encouraging here with what Brady's 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: putting on the field. 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say that whatever atmosphere they've got 109 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: going on in their offensive team meeting or it's productive. 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you've got a ton of guys being really productive. 111 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 5: We saw this too in the offseason. They brought in 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 5: a bunch of guys that catch the ball really well. Yeah, 113 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 5: and I know that sounds crazy, but no, These guys 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 5: have a high catch radius. Kincaid catches everything, Shakir catches everything. 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 5: Curtis Samuel has great hands. These guys really catch the 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 5: ball well, even on rough throws. 117 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: And in traffic, and we've seen that. 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 5: And whatever atmosphere and whatever play calling that they're doing 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 5: in the installation period, I mean, I don't they're not 120 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: doing any game planning against the defense and you know, 121 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 5: all that stuff that goes into the nuances of the 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 5: regular season. They're just kind of installing their offense. Man 123 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 5: oh man. They look effective. I mean, they really do. 124 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: Everybody seems to be clicking, even the offensive line. We'll 125 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: talk to Daquan Jones. We cut some sound with him earlier. 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 5: He talked about even the offensive line seems to be 127 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 5: greased lightning right now. They really seem to be communicating well, 128 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: and it shows. 129 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: It's not like they're going out there with the same 130 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 4: eleven guys on offense. They're mixing and matching where wide 131 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: receivers are lining up, and I think that speaks to 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 4: what we're gonna see this season. Joe Brady went into 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: depth about how we don't have positions for our wide receivers. 134 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: We are teaching two man concepts, three concepts. It was 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 4: all conceptual when we were teaching this offense to our receivers. 136 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 4: Kean Coleman spoke about that today too and seemed really 137 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: excited about the fact that I'm not just going to 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: be an ex in this offense. My job is going 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: to be a lot wider than just one role. 140 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: One guy who we saw getting an awful lot more 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: reps with the ones was Cole Bishop today. He got 142 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: sprinkled in late in practice yesterday with the starting unit. 143 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Today he was there almost from start to finish. Interesting 144 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: development here early in camp. 145 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was. They they're running some different kind 146 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: of defensive looks in the backfield. You see a lot 147 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 5: of guys particularly, and I think this is indicative of 148 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: every training camp where they're, like I said yesterday, they're 149 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 5: experimenting a little bit with who can do what. 150 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: They do, some mixing and matching with the ones and 151 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: the twoes. 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: But you're right, Bishop showed up today with the number 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: one crew and that's always a good thing for a 154 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: young player to feel. 155 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, that's it's a little bit of a. 156 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 5: Carrot for him, confidence boosts, right Exactly, It's a little 157 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: bit of a validation of how he's working at least 158 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 5: same thing. 159 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 1: With the young guys. 160 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 5: And Maddie mentioned a minut ago on the offensive side, 161 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: everybody's playing with everybody and they're lining up everywhere and 162 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: different combinations where you know, you got Kincaid and Knox 163 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 5: standing over the beside each other and there ain't no 164 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: but none, neither one of them's in. So it's and 165 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: the combinations of personnel with the running backs, the receivers 166 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: and the tight. 167 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: Ends, they're just there's no lid on it. They're trying everything. 168 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: So, Maddie, I wanted your thoughts on the on the 169 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: run game. Through the first three days, it has looked 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: pretty consistent, but maybe just talk about the backs because 171 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: we've heard going into camp and even early in camp 172 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: about how versatile the receivers are. I think what's gotten 173 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: lost is how versatile these running backs are going to 174 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: be in this offense. And I'm talking beyond James Cook. 175 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: It's been fun to watch these running backs in the 176 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: first few days of practice, and I think we've really 177 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: seen a lot from them in practice number two, in 178 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: practice number three, and it's not just James Cook, like 179 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: you said, it's Ray Davis, Ty Johnson, even Frank Gore 180 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: Junior getting involved in things. And Joe Brady when he 181 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: was asked of hey, what have you seen out of 182 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: this running backs group? What do you want out of 183 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: the guys behind James Cook? Joe Brady wasn't ready to 184 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: answer that question yet because he said, for me, with 185 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: the running backs, it's really going to start to come 186 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: together when they put pads on. He said, it's hard 187 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: to tell right now when we just have hats and 188 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: T shirts on. 189 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: So I really am. 190 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 4: Excited to see how we work our technique with our 191 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: pads on. But Ray Davis and Ty Johnson yesterday I 192 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: think stood out amongst the running backs. They both had 193 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: some nice gains, nice cuts thanks to the vision that 194 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: they both have. Frank Gore Junior has popped off a 195 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 4: couple of nice runs as well. James Cook had a 196 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: nice catch and one on one drills from Josh Allen. 197 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: It was a deep ball thrown by Alan I can't 198 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: remember who is guarding James Cook when they were doing 199 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: one on one period toward the end of practice. 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 6: But we saw how. 201 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: This team finished last season as being a run not 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: run heavy. But the rushing yards that they put up 203 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: in the back half of the season were quite a lot. 204 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: James Cook finished with the fourth most rushing yards in 205 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: the NFL. And we're seeing that be spruce like. We're 206 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: seeing that put into practice right now. We're seeing James 207 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: and Tye and Ray being used early and often, and 208 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: I think that says a lot about what could be 209 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 4: for this offense this upcoming season. We know what Joe 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: Brady thinks about using running backs and how valuable that 211 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: could be to the team. It's been nice to see 212 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: these three guys used right away. 213 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's been consistent no matter which 214 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: back has been in there, and in some cases which 215 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: line has been in there. I mean, the starting O 216 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: line looks solid. I think the McGovern moved to center 217 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: and then edwards to guard that I mean, the starting 218 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: unit doesn't look like they've missed a beat. And then 219 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: even the second unit, while they're not as air tight 220 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: as that first group, I think there's some promise there 221 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: and you're already seeing some progress. You know, a guy 222 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: who's kind of caught my eye through the first few 223 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: days is Tyland Grabil, the draft pick they got him, 224 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: playing a lot of tackle here early in camp, and 225 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: you can see right away the athletic skill set he 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: brings to the table. He had a rep in one 227 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: on ones that Steve and I both witnessed where he 228 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: got beat off the snap but recovered and held the 229 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: rep to a stalemate. 230 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: He didn't lose it. 231 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: And half the battle sometimes is even when your technique 232 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: is not perfect, can you keep that guy off your quarterback? 233 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: And he did that, So I don't know. There's just 234 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: some signs from Grabel that are encouraging. And he's still 235 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: a guy that's young at that position. Remember Draft night, Matty, 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: they were talking about how he was a quarterback in 237 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: high school and now he's a tackle. 238 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's and he's an enormous tackle. 239 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 5: He's he's got the athleticism to do it. It doesn't 240 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: look like his second sport, you know what I mean. 241 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 5: He doesn't look like he just started, which says a 242 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: lot about his athleticism. The guy six ' eight way 243 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: over three bills, he stands, he looks like he looks 244 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: the part and I was, and he's going against I mean, 245 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 5: he's taking reps against everybody, so he's more than holding 246 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 5: his own in my opinion, so I think that's pretty 247 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: promising as well. 248 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: They're gonna have good depth at that offensive line position. 249 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: And tasker. 250 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: I looked at you during the first practice is speaking 251 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: of Connor McGovern moving over to center in David Edwards 252 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: kicking in. I looked at you and I was like, 253 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: are we overlooking this? Is this a bigger deal? Do 254 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: we need to make it a bigger deal? And you 255 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: looked at me. You said, Connor's going to be fine, 256 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: David's gonna be fine. And you just spoke about what 257 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: you've seen in the first three days in that it's 258 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: looked like a well oiled machine out of that group. 259 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so everybody has an opinion on how Milano has 260 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: looked to them through the first three days. 261 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: How has he looked to you? 262 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: I think he's a guy who we know what Matt 263 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 4: Milano can do for this defense. And I wanted to 264 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: ask Bobby Babbage this question today but didn't get the 265 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 4: chance to. I wonder how you approach a player like 266 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 4: Matt Mulano in him getting on the field and getting 267 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: back to looking like himself. Bobby Babbage, our defensive coordinator, said, 268 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: it's only a matter of time until Matt Milano looks 269 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 4: like Matt Milano. But with that, I'm sure you have 270 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: to temper expectations a little bit because he is such 271 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: a tough player, he loves the game. He spent the 272 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: entire offseason here making sure he was ready to go 273 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: for training camp. He's probably somebody who just wants to 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: be shot out of a cannon and participating, making plays, 275 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 4: making a difference right away. That's obviously not going to 276 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: be the case for somebody who is off the field 277 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: for like ten months. You have to ease your way 278 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: back into it, and I'm sure there's got to be 279 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: some conversations going around on whether it's with his teammates, 280 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: coaching staff, training staff, maybe everyone about I gotta walk 281 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: into this, I can't run into this. So it's been 282 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: nice to see him lining up right there with Terrell Bernard, 283 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: that chemistry between the two of those two of those guys. 284 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what's gonna happen this season when 285 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: he really starts to put some plays on tape, because 286 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: right now, it's just Okay, how does the leg feel 287 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: if I cut this way? How does it feel I'm 288 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: getting back into football shape? 289 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta remember too, I mean, so Milana, we 290 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: all know he's playing at the highest level in the 291 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 5: highest sport, the highest level of his sport, and even 292 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: elite guy like the elite fighter pilots, if you do 293 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: it and you're good at it, and your razor sharp 294 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: like he was, like when he got hurt, he was 295 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 5: on it, man, he was. He destroyed the elephant, right, 296 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: So that's where he's at. That's where he was at well. 297 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 5: And now he's got ten months he hasn't done anything, nothing, 298 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: and the best guys will tell you you got to 299 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 5: do it every day. So he's gone ten months without 300 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 5: it and now he's just getting back into it. And 301 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: even now there's no pads, none of that stuff's going on. 302 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: It's gonna take him some time to get razor sharp again. 303 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 5: That's why even if he's one hundred percent health physically healthy, 304 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: which he probably is, but he has he. 305 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: Didn't practice last off. 306 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't practice, he didn't run. You know, 307 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: he's been way away as far as he could be 308 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: away from it. He's been away from it. 309 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: So you know, he cares as to how they're going 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: to handle him in the preseason because as we know, 311 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: over the last few years, veterans and in trench starters 312 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: play less and less and less in the preseason. This 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: is a little bit bit of a different scenario. To 314 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: your point, he hasn't warn pads in ten months played 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: in a game. There are mental hurdles to clear, to 316 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Maddie's point, So I wonder if they leave it up 317 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: to him, Hey, do you want to play in the preseason? 318 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Do you have a hurdle you got to clear where 319 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: you just got to take a couple of hits in 320 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: a real, live game setting to feel good and confident, 321 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: so you're not thinking about your leg anymore. You're just 322 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: thinking about playing. And they may leave it up to 323 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: him to make that decision as to yeah, give me 324 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: two series this week, you know, or whatever the case 325 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: might be. 326 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: I think that's a question. 327 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: We got to ask coach McDermott to see what that 328 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: plan is going forward, because it might give us a 329 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: peek into what kind of mental hurdles he still has 330 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: to clear. 331 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: I guess would be, and it would be he has 332 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: a voice in that process, yes, but also do the 333 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: coaches obviously and all that, but a staff, the coaches 334 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: goals for the roster, and the sports science people I 335 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 5: do think it. 336 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: Says a lot about him not being held back in 337 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: the first three practices. We heard from Sean McDermott and 338 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: Brandon being the first day and they said, this is 339 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: as good as it can get for Matt Milano. This 340 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: is where our hopes were is that he would be 341 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 4: practicing on the first day of training camp without being 342 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 4: held back. That's the case, but there are some guys 343 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 4: where we may have to hold them back a little 344 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 4: bit as they get into things. I would assume Matt 345 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: Milano is a part of that group when he was 346 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: speaking about it, and the fact that he's been out 347 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 4: here the first three days and has not had a 348 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: red shirt on, has not had to be held out 349 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: of drills or anything, says quite a bit about where 350 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: he is at physically. 351 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we're all waiting to see if 352 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: that changes once the pads go on next week, and 353 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: maybe that changes his daily regiment. The other guy that 354 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: people wonder about is Von Miller. I don't know where 355 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: you guys stand, so I will put it to you, 356 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: what have you made of his burst off the edge. 357 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: I will just tell you that in the last two 358 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: days I have noticed him and he seems more sudden 359 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: than he did in any game last year. Again, he's 360 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: not carrying pads and everything that he's gonna wear on 361 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: a game day. Factor that in if you want. But 362 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: I've noticed that he has given offensive tackles trouble. He 363 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: was giving Spencer Brown problems today. 364 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had almost so we thought would be sack 365 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: against when he was wrapping against Spencer Brown today. And 366 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: he spoke to the media yesterday and he said, you know, 367 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: the difference now is I'm not thinking about my knee 368 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: out there. The knee issues are not going through my 369 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: brain when I'm going up against an offensive lineman or 370 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 4: when we're in team period. I'm just playing. 371 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: And the mental. 372 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 4: Load that leaves you when you don't have to think 373 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: about that every single down, every single play, I think 374 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: is doing a lot for von Miller right now, and 375 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 4: hopefully that results in him getting back to what we 376 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: know von Miller can be and what we saw out 377 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: of von Miller in that first season as a Buffalo. 378 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 5: Bill still confident that he's gonna come back and play 379 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 5: exactly like he did before he left, and you know 380 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 5: he was. I don't know if he's gonna get a 381 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 5: fifteen sacks, he have a double digit sack year or whatever. 382 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: I do know he's gonna be be a solid defensive 383 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: end on this team, and he's gonna go in there 384 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 5: in some spots where they need a big play. His 385 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: mentality and his and his experience are going to carry 386 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 5: him through some tough times. But like they already have, 387 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: I think he's going to really be a contributor this year. 388 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: I think he's got some football left in him. 389 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: And he's gonna be in a similar boat concerning preseason, 390 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: like they'll probably leave it up to him again, like 391 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: do you want to get some snaps? 392 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: Do you want to do you feel you need to. 393 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: Get yourself ready for the regular season. It might be 394 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: different for him because he played almost yeah, yeah, I 395 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: mean he played in the last what was it thirteen 396 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: games of the season. 397 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: It might be four weeks. 398 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 5: It might be that he would rather have some first 399 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: and ten plays in the preseason rather than just some 400 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 5: pass rush plays, perhaps so we can get some contact 401 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 5: and you know, some bearing up against the rample. 402 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. 403 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 5: I can't speak for him, but there there is a 404 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 5: thought process there that would say I want to do 405 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: some other stuff before we get into this, see if 406 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: I can actually handle the first and ten stuff if 407 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 5: they want to use me that way. And maybe he 408 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: does need that mental hurdle to get over after having 409 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: a long off season. But you're right, I mean this 410 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 5: is just another off season for him. He was rehabbing 411 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 5: and training, not like last offseason when he was total rehab. 412 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 5: I think he's in a much different mental place this preseason, all. 413 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 3: Right, Maddie. 414 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: So anything that you're working on for Buffalo Bills dot 415 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: Com that we need to alert our listening audience to. 416 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 4: We've got a practice report going out today. 417 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm not on that. 418 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: Alec White and Dorian Alert are on that today. But 419 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: coming in the next few weeks, we are going to 420 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: do our position group features again, which we do every 421 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: training camp, where we get to kind of learn about 422 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: some of these new faces within the position groups, try 423 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 4: and have some fun with these guys, try and get 424 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: them the levels a little bit, get to know them. 425 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 4: So we'll be filming those starting next week, I think, 426 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: after the walkthroughs, which is always a fun time getting 427 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: to know the guys. 428 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: Yes, and in case you don't know, when the preseason 429 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: broadcasts hit the airwaves, Steve Tasker and Andrew Catilan are 430 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: going to be joined by Maddy on the sideline. 431 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: She will be the sideline. 432 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Reporter for the preseason TV game, So look for Maddy 433 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: down on the sidelines during the games. 434 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: That'll be great. 435 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: You're good. 436 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 4: Congratulations, So you too, Brian. I haven't told you on 437 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: the air yet. 438 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: But appreciate that. Yeah, look at it exciting times. 439 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Look it up. 440 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: So Mattie, Maddie was she was on vacation and she 441 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: still sent me a text to congratulate me. And I 442 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: texted her back and I said, you kill it on 443 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: the sidelines, and I'll kill it in the boots. So 444 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: that's what we'll try to do for our listening and 445 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: viewing audiences going forward here. 446 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 3: But thanks for checking in with us. 447 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have you check in at least one 448 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: more time, maybe two more times before camp breaks. For 449 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: the updates and for all of Maddie's work and Alex work. 450 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Just check Buffalo bills dot com. They have wrap ups 451 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: on every day of practice, in every minute detail that 452 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: you could possibly imagine or neat. Gotta take a break here, 453 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: But when we come back for the first time since 454 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: he's signed as a Buffalo Bill We're gonna hear from 455 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: wide receiver Curtis Samuel. Had a big day in the 456 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: passing game yesterday. We're gonna hear from him next here 457 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health, It's 458 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One Bill's 459 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: Live on a Friday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. 460 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: Day three of. 461 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: Training camp is in the books, and we want to 462 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: bring to you commentary for the first time from one 463 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel. 464 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: He has not been anywhere. 465 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: His entire offseason, quiet guy, and he spoke to the 466 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 2: media after practice today, so we have his comments for 467 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: you and we want to bring those to you now. 468 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: So here is Bill's new wide receiver, Curtis Samuel. 469 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 7: How did the expectations of playing with Josh Allen lead 470 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: up with the reality what it's been like playing with 471 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: Josh Amain. 472 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 8: I mean, there's everything I thought it was gonna be. 473 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 9: Honestly, you know, he's a great quarterback in this league, 474 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 9: and you know, my job's got there. Make sure I'm 475 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 9: in tune with the playbook, make sure i know what 476 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 9: I'm doing, you know, build that trust with him to 477 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 9: know that when I'm out there, I understand what my 478 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 9: assignment is. 479 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 10: Of course, you played running back in You're like, you 480 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 10: carry the ball out in the NFL? 481 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: How much do you like doing that? 482 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 8: At this level? 483 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 9: I was fun, you know, I mean anytime I get 484 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 9: the ball on my hands, I'm excited. 485 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 8: You know. 486 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 9: That's why I don't limit myself, you know, just playing outside, 487 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 9: you know, whatever the case may be inside outside, you know, 488 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 9: in the backfield, I don't limit myself. 489 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 10: What are those conversations like with Joe Brady who knows 490 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 10: you very well from doing that obviously, and you telling 491 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 10: him what you like to do? 492 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: What nowton, Hey, we should try something like this? What 493 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: are those conversations like? 494 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 9: It's just a trust thing. I understand Joe, Me and 495 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 9: Joe bin together before. And you know, if you see 496 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 9: how he used me there, you know you kind of 497 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 9: got an idea. So I ain't gonna give out the conversation. 498 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 9: But I just put all my trust to him to 499 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 9: put me in the right spots, in the right position 500 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 9: to succeed in this offense. 501 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 11: We obviously you got the ball more in Carolina and 502 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 11: uh you were used like more downfield passes in Carolina 503 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 11: than out of Washington last year it was a little 504 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 11: more officers, different underneath stuff. 505 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 8: So you know, how much did you. 506 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 11: Like the idea of being a whole field. 507 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 8: Versatile weapon with Jeff? I mean, whatever system I'm in, 508 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 8: that's the system, my man. 509 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 9: You know, I'm not I can't critique, you know, the 510 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 9: coach and whoever's calling the plays, and whatever position they 511 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 9: want to put me in on whoever they fit me at. 512 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 9: I gotta make it work, you know. So I'm not 513 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 9: gonna complain or make your excuse for anything. You know, 514 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 9: whoever the coach want to put me at, actually gotta 515 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 9: do my best at that spot. 516 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 12: Do you have like a favorite partic? 517 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 8: Maybe? 518 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 9: But I mean just anytime I could get the ball 519 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 9: on my hands, you know, I'm excited. 520 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 8: A big question was how the Bills replaced the compas. 521 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 6: Effort he got trade What gives you conflicts that the 522 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 6: group that's here together is capable. 523 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 8: Of feeling that for you know, he's a great player. 524 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 9: It's just about a lot of guys, everybody coming together, 525 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 9: everybody doing their job, you know, going out there to 526 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 9: make things happen. I like, I like the guys in 527 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 9: our room. I mean, I feel like everybody compliment each 528 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 9: other so well. I feel like everybody you know have 529 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 9: a skill set that well that we utilize the best 530 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 9: to ability, and we're gonna make things happen. 531 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 8: You know, you can't key on nobody. We're gonna go 532 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 8: out there and play ball. 533 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 13: When you were introduced to somebody back college, to somebody 534 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 13: that's not on mad Elm or seeing them college feeling. 535 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 9: Mac, I'm gonna just say, hey, you know that guy 536 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 9: that walk around with those shoes, that's Mac. 537 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: How much of a leadership well either already take or 538 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: your experience and or you envision yourself taking. 539 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 14: Your time coaching me. 540 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 8: I'm more of a guy lead by example. I'm not 541 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 8: I'm not too vocal. 542 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 5: You know. 543 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 9: If if God's asks, you know, I give him my input. 544 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 8: But I try to just lead by example. 545 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 9: You know, I say, I'm still a young guy, you know, 546 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 9: because I'm only twenty seven. My birthday next month, I 547 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 9: will be twenty eight. But I'm going on year eight, 548 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 9: so you know, I've I've been playing this game for 549 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 9: a little while. So I just try to lead by 550 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 9: example and show guys you know, how to do, how 551 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 9: to do how to do, how to do things. 552 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 8: The right way. 553 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 12: Just talk for a little bit about his study, habits 554 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 12: and why he feels so comfortable in the playbook. What 555 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 12: do you see out of Kean and me to excite 556 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 12: you know, leads to just him feeling so confident already. 557 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 8: Kean is locked in. You know, he'd be he'd be focused, 558 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 8: he'd be in this playbook. 559 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 9: But the thing is, I feel like we don't just 560 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 9: put a lot of pressure on our guys, and you know, 561 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 9: in meeting rooms, it's just about we got to enjoy ourself, 562 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 9: to have fun. We don't want to sit there and 563 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 9: make it you know, boring, just sitting there looking at 564 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 9: the board. We try to interact, you know, coaches asking questions, 565 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 9: We ask each other questions to try to make it 566 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 9: more interactive with each other. So it's like you're processing 567 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 9: information rather than somebody just talking to you. 568 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 15: What do you see differently Rich Brady than when he 569 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 15: was in Carolina. 570 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: And here in Buffalo. 571 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 9: I made a confidence, you know, I mean, he just 572 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 9: he really gonna put it in our hands. You know, 573 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 9: that's the good thing about having a guy like Josh. 574 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 9: You know, you could just call a player. You got 575 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 9: great guys around him, you know, all over the field 576 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 9: that you could call a play and just trusting your 577 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 9: guys to make it work because you. 578 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: Can do so much. 579 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 10: Chris, do you think dbs and defenses in your life 580 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 10: have underestimated your speed because you have straight line speed, 581 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 10: but you do so much around the field. 582 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: You're not always flying straight out. 583 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 9: The field out the say, I don't think they underestimate 584 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 9: underestimate my speed because when I get the ball on 585 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 9: my hands, I think they feel the speed. It's just 586 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 9: about am I gonna run past them with my speed? 587 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 9: That's the thing that I feel like they probably, you know, 588 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 9: question a little bit, you know, but. 589 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 10: For me so because you can't do so much, how 590 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 10: much does that help you if you can set them 591 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 10: up for different. 592 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 3: Things that you can do like that with your speed. 593 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 9: When you're playing against anybody fast, you gotta understand that, 594 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 9: you know, they could go anywhere on the field. And 595 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 9: I feel like the fact that I do have to 596 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 9: be and they understand that. I feel like they don't. 597 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 9: They don't take too many chances, you know, trying to 598 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 9: let me run past them. 599 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 7: Joey's talks so much this spring and summer about you know, 600 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 7: the quarterback being his basket and he's able to go 601 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 7: through his progression and to Josh's even talking a lot 602 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 7: of going, you know, player to player. How has he 603 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 7: done that to you? 604 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: Especially here in the. 605 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 7: Last couple of days. 606 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 8: Oh, he's done a great job. He's he's a phenomenal quarterback. 607 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 9: I mean honestly to be able to be out there 608 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 9: playing with him and actually seeing you watch it on film. 609 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 8: He does a great job. You know, he gets everybody 610 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 8: in position. You know, he go through his keys, he 611 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 8: go through his reads, and he just delivers the ball. 612 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 16: Is not a nice start to camp so far, speaking 613 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 16: of job showing what what has happened between you two, 614 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 16: your OTAs the time you've been together to allow yourself 615 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 16: to start. 616 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 9: Camp going and you have you know, we we've had 617 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 9: time outside you know before camp. You know, we got 618 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 9: together with a group of guys and we just went 619 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 9: out there and just you know, through the ball around. 620 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 9: But it's just really about just building that no relationship 621 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 9: with each other. It's just like it's not too serious. 622 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: What a all the time? 623 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 9: That guy he makes a lot of jokes and I 624 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 9: make jokes as well. So it's like we got a 625 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 9: comfortable relationship where we can rely on each other, you know, 626 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 9: have fun. 627 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 17: Together. 628 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 9: It just was good to go out there with the guys, 629 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 9: you know, just not really have coaches around to be 630 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 9: able to control you know, run a lot of routes, 631 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 9: try try a lot of different things out there as 632 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 9: far as routes, and you know, have the quarterbacks out 633 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 9: there coach us and help us and try to get 634 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 9: us on the same page. 635 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 15: Were all of different variations of personnel groupings, right, How 636 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 15: how does you play that to your advantage? What you 637 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 15: mean by that as far as personnel groupings or finding 638 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 15: the mismatch and making you operate into certain situations. 639 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 9: It just really about trying to get me on different people. 640 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 9: I mean, I just feel like if I'm in the backfield, 641 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 9: I feel like a lot of even dbs, they don't 642 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 9: even want to play that from the backfield. They so 643 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 9: comfortable being you know, up in your face or even 644 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 9: five yards away when I'm in a box and they 645 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 9: they tend yards away and get him a little mismatch just. 646 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 8: Because I can go so many different ways. 647 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 9: So just set me up in different positions, you know, 648 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 9: getting different guys in there, you know, forcing maybe linebackers 649 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 9: that have to get a safety to come and help them. 650 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 8: That just free up other guys on the outside. So 651 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 8: it's just about playing complimentary football. 652 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 12: Remain at the environment here and just because you know 653 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 12: it tastes for the new team and fan base everything 654 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 12: like that. 655 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 8: Oh it's great. 656 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 6: Day one. 657 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 9: It was out there going crazy, So I was excited, 658 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 9: you know, just to see everybody out there supporting the 659 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 9: supporting the team. You hear about it so much, no 660 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 9: matter what you're playing. You hear about how how Buffalo, 661 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 9: how much Buffalo fans love their team. But when you 662 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 9: out there you actually see it, it's just a it's 663 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 9: a it's a great feeling. You know, you have fans 664 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 9: and the coaching staff, everybody doubt then and everybody excited 665 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 9: for the season. 666 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 13: I got to just had you seen the teams to 667 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 13: get acclimated to the NFL, and as well as when 668 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 13: we watching Bokas, maybe kempt it out for a dream. 669 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 13: Kept what excites you about his potential white people provide 670 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 13: for this offense this year? 671 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 8: I really think it's a radius. 672 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 7: You know. 673 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 9: It's just the thing is he got good speed, he 674 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 9: could get past you, he got great moves at the 675 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 9: line of scrimmage. Is the fact that you could throw 676 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 9: the ball anywhere around him, he could get to the ball. 677 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 9: That's what makes it scary for DBS because it's like, well, 678 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 9: you got a guy that can catch the ball anywhere. 679 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 8: It makes it tough. 680 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: They all know what to do, all right. 681 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: That's Curtis Samuel addressing the media after practice today, And 682 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: I would say the thing that I liked hearing from 683 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: the most was he said, we have a talented receiving corps, 684 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: but you can't key on any one guy because they 685 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: don't have the true alpha male and they all feel 686 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: they can make plays. Several of them have huge catch 687 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: radiuses and the ones that don't are blazers. 688 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: So have fun with those skill sets across the board. 689 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 5: But the yeah, the fear is this though they can't 690 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 5: key on any one guy, and for fans, and it's 691 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 5: the hope of other teams who look at you and 692 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 5: your roster and don't know the inner workings of it, 693 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 5: the fear is that you don't have anybody that can 694 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: win consistently. All your guys are sub you know, because 695 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 5: there's nobody that's any better than anybody else. You're not 696 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 5: gonna be able to win that way because you don't 697 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 5: have anybody that can win a matchup, I don't think 698 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 5: that's gonna be the case. Yeah, they've got the talent 699 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: level is there to win a lot. And I've been 700 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 5: telling anybody who listen on this show and everyplace else, 701 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 5: this offense is knock going to miss a beat. They're 702 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 5: gonna score and score a lot. And I think in 703 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: the early part of this season, while this defense finds 704 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 5: itself and gets familiarized with itself, like we've seen in 705 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 5: the first couple of days, get more and more reps 706 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 5: under their belt and all these different defensive looks and 707 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: all their adjustment packages, the defense will catch up. But 708 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 5: this offense will be good enough right out of the 709 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 5: gate to carry this team to wins until their defense 710 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: finds itself, and then they'll be able to win on 711 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 5: both sides of the ball. By the end of this season, 712 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 5: they're gonna be They're gonna be as good a team 713 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 5: as Josh Sean mcdermot's ever put out. But this offense, 714 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 5: because of the situation with the room and everybody's new 715 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: to this new to the room, I think it's gonna 716 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 5: work in their benefit. I don't think that it's a 717 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 5: case where they don't have an alpha dar because nobody's 718 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 5: that good. I think it's a case that they got 719 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: a bunch of new guys who can all really play 720 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: and aren't entitled to any of those targets. So that's 721 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: exactly what I'll say it again. This offense is gonna 722 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 5: be good right out of the gate. They're going to 723 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 5: carry this team through wins if the defense needs them to, 724 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: and by the end of the season, this will be 725 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 5: This has a chance to be the best team Chah 726 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 5: mcdermoss ever fielded as a Bills coach. 727 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: And then you couple that talent at receiver with Joe 728 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: Brady's scheming, which shows some very good signs here early 729 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: in practice today, and you have to believe that Steve's 730 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: probably on the money with his call that the offense 731 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: is just going to keep on humming along here. So 732 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: hopefully that all comes together through the course of training 733 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: camp and the preseason where it isn't an issue. The 734 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: other interesting part about what Curge Samuel talked about was 735 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: lining up in the backfield. He was addressing that and 736 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: obviously it's something that he's done before with Joe Brady. 737 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: Joe Brady deployed him that way in Carolina, right, and 738 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: you heard him discussing what a mismatch that creates just 739 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: by virtue of where he lines up. Because if he's 740 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: in the box now he's ten yards away from the 741 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: defensive back. That puts him in That puts the defensive 742 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: back in a very uncomfortable position because of all the 743 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: different places he can go. 744 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, that it gives him an in and out break 745 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: and a deep break, you know it can give him. 746 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 5: You can go forward either side and you know shit, 747 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: and the DB's way away from you. I mean, if 748 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: you want to cover somebody, you can't do that. You've 749 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: got to be right on him. And it takes a 750 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 5: good chunk of the first half of a play clock 751 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: after the ball is snapped for the guy to even 752 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 5: find you and get near you. It's tough. It's really 753 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 5: tough on a defense, particularly since there's every chance to win. 754 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 5: Curtis Samuel goes on the field, they're gonna label him 755 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 5: as a wide receiver. They're not gonna think of him 756 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 5: as a back, so they're not going to start out 757 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 5: with a with a linebacker on him or something like that. 758 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: They're going to treat him like a wide out. And 759 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: then when he's in the in the in the backfield. 760 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 5: That throws a real wrench into the adjustments that the 761 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 5: defense can make or wants to make, or will be 762 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 5: able or willing to make. 763 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: So it's it's a problem when. 764 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: You've got versatile players who can line up in vastly 765 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 5: different positions offensively, running back to wide receiver is a 766 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 5: big difference, particularly if you believe they actually will hand 767 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 5: it to the guy. 768 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: That's a problem. Yes, that's a problem. 769 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 2: And we saw Joe Brady start to incorporate elements of 770 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: that in the offense last year. He was lining digs 771 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 2: up in the backfield at times and work in some 772 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: late motion, which was something that we witnessed The Dolphins 773 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: do a lot of. 774 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but their offense. 775 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Picture how tough it would be. 776 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 5: You know, you line up back there, and it's one 777 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 5: thing to line a receiver up out there and then 778 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 5: like like the Dolphins do with Tyreek, and then fast 779 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 5: motion him out of there or orbit motion him where 780 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 5: he comes in across across the ball and then turns 781 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 5: around it sprints back to the other direction. That's one thing, 782 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 5: because you know the guys, you know they're probably gonna 783 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 5: throw them the football or maybe he's going to be 784 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 5: a part of a decoy or something. The problem is, 785 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 5: you get a guy like Curtis Samuel back there, he 786 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 5: lines up, you snap the ball and he runs up 787 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 5: into the line of scrimmage and you hand it in 788 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 5: his stomach and he goes like a running back. Then 789 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 5: it's like, well, wait a minute, we didn't you know 790 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 5: those kind of options, and the defenses belief that you're 791 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 5: going to do that or will do that, or that 792 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 5: that's on the table puts them into a real problem 793 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 5: area for their mindset. They're game planning everything. So it's 794 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 5: it's a huge weapon to have having guys like that. 795 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 5: The Patriots used to do it with Aaron Hernandez and Gronk. 796 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 5: Hernandez would line up as a fullback or tailback and 797 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 5: they'd hand him the football on an off tackle play. 798 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 5: It's a problem. It's a problem, and that's why coaches, 799 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 5: you know, covet versatile athletes and Curtis Samuel is that. 800 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 5: Curtis Samuel is that some uplifting. 801 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: News today, at the end of practice, Kim Pagoola was 802 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: brought out to the practice field by her husband and owner, 803 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 2: Terry Pagoula to break down the huddle after practice today. 804 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Kim Pogola, as you know, had a health scare a 805 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: little over a year and a half ago, and you 806 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 2: know she's done her best to recover. She's probably had 807 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: the best medical care money can buy. But you know, 808 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: we haven't seen a lot of her. She hasn't been 809 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: around much. So she does come to training camp. She 810 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: did last year. She would often sit in a vehicle 811 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 2: just beyond the behind the end zone on the grass 812 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 2: field here at Saint John. Fisher and mister Pegula brought 813 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 2: Kim out to break down the huddle after practice today. 814 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 3: Was really. 815 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: Uplifting and inspiring to witness that he after practice today 816 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: just kind of a really cool thing, especially for the 817 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 2: players who have been here for a few years and 818 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: know her very well. 819 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy for fans and people around the country 820 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 5: not you know, they don't think about the owners all. 821 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 5: They don't think about They think them aut as public 822 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 5: figures more so than they do real people. And you know, 823 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 5: the Beagoulas are first and foremost of a great family 824 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 5: and you know their care and thoughts about their their mom, 825 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: Kim and Terry and his wife Kim are ongoing and 826 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 5: it's just it's just been they have really rallied around 827 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 5: her as a family. It's been wonderful to see and witness. 828 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: So it's congratulations to them. It's great to see Kim. 829 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 5: She was out here last year as well, but didn't 830 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: feel up to do and what she did today and 831 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 5: that was nice to see, real nice. 832 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 2: And maybe the most touching photo that some of our 833 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: photographers took from Buffalo Bill's dot com was DeMar Hamlin 834 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 2: giving her a hug. I mean, you think about everything, 835 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: you think about everything that the Pagoula fan did to 836 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: make sure that Tamar was taken care of in his 837 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: time of need after a very serious health event, you know, 838 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: a year and a half ago, you know, to just 839 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: kind of see him kind of return, just some affection 840 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: in kind was it was. 841 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 3: It was special. 842 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: It was special to see that, very nice, you know, 843 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: knowing what those two people have been through over the 844 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 2: better part of the last year plus, so kind of 845 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: a cool thing to see today. We do have a 846 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: few minutes here to go around the NFL because there 847 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: is some news going on around the league and we 848 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 2: want to bring that to you. We told you yesterday 849 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: how Tua tongue of Iloas sat out all of practice 850 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: on Thursday. He participated on a limited basis the first 851 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 2: day of camp, didn't participate at all yesterday, and today 852 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: the reports are coming out that he participated in full. 853 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 3: He caved, He caved. Stee, you're supposed to make this difficult. 854 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 5: We need controversy, and yeah, the strength of his conviction 855 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 5: matches the strength of his arm weak. 856 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: The other news concerning quarterbacks is with Lamar Jackson. He 857 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 2: missed the first two days of camp, came out yesterday 858 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: and participated, but did not look great like he was 859 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: dragging a little bit, missing practice again today. 860 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what Lamar sick. He's very sick. I 861 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: don't know what the illness is, but it's certainly not 862 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: fit to let him play football. 863 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: Wow. 864 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know if they'll get to the bottom 865 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: of just exactly what is plaguing him. 866 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 3: But it's not good. 867 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: We know that. 868 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 3: So and then this story bizarre. 869 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: Okay, the agent for Byron Murphy, first round pick of 870 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks defensive tackle. 871 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 3: He just released a statement that reads as follows. 872 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 2: Recently, my client, Byron Murphy, was the victim of an 873 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: extortion attempt from a text conversation that began and ended online. 874 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 3: He had no contact with this person. 875 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: This blackmail scheme has targeted other young players in the league. 876 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: We have notified the NFL and turn the matter over 877 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: to the FBI. Anyone involved in this scheme will be prosecuted. 878 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: Holy cow, got the FBI on this man, some serious stuff. 879 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: Go get them, go get him. 880 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 6: You got what you get? 881 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: Catfished? What was going on? 882 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know the details, but that 883 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: is just wow. That's bizarre, isn't it. 884 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: That is so busy, That's just wacky. 885 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: And then here's here's another story. I forgot to tell 886 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 2: you yesterday. We ran out of time because we were 887 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: so busy with the people and the guests and the player. 888 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 3: Sound. 889 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: Did you see what happened to the women's Canadian soccer 890 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: team at the Olympics. 891 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 3: No, they basically pulled a Bill Belichick. 892 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 2: They were flying drones over practice sessions of other teams 893 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 2: prior to playing them, and they got caught. 894 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 3: So the men's coach and the women's coach. I think 895 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 3: only the women's team was implicated. 896 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: I saw that on my timeline. Were they but the. 897 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 3: Men's coach and the women's coach. 898 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 5: Gone, I saw that on my timeline where they said, hey, 899 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 5: this is interesting spygates. 900 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 901 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 5: They they've got a spot a job opening on the 902 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 5: online and the part of the requirements are to be 903 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 5: able to fly a drone and work the camera. 904 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: They put it online is that they probably this probably 905 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: was that I had. 906 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 5: I didn't know that was actually I didn't know anything 907 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 5: about what you just said, and I saw why are 908 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 5: they putting that? 909 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 1: Why is that? 910 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 3: Why do I care about the canadianable? 911 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: And they got it online worthy? 912 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: Are probably they think they weren't. Nobody's gonna see this 913 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 3: thing flying over the field. 914 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: And no, it's not theirs, like it's it's one thing 915 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: if and I'm sure teams do this, they they take 916 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: an overhead shot of a soccer pitch when they're filming 917 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 2: practice or scrimmage game of some kind, just to see 918 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: the movement of the players and make sure they're playing 919 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 2: to the tactics of and wishes. 920 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: Of the coach. 921 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 5: I see the value of that if you film your 922 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: own practice, Yeah, your own practice. 923 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 3: It's like, yo, what's that drone up there with a 924 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 3: maple leaf on it? 925 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: I'll say, yeah, that's funny. 926 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 5: I'll say this though, it is common practice around facilities 927 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 5: and I don't know, I don't know when it started, 928 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 5: but it's common practice to have for the security of 929 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 5: the like the stadium and stuff. 930 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: They're aware of when a drone is in the air. 931 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that was what did them in. Yeah, 932 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 3: because here's the other thing. 933 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: If you're if you're the if you're the Canadian Olympic team, 934 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 2: you've been doing this for a while and you haven't 935 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 2: gotten caught. You know, the level of security at the 936 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: Olympics right apparently, I mean it's hyper aware, or at 937 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 2: least it should be. I mean, they got twenty times 938 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: the number of cameras that you have. 939 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 3: Drones. 940 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna find you. They probably have them on camera 941 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 2: lifting it off with their remote. 942 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:02,959 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 943 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 3: Just dumb, really really dumb. 944 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: Well, and. 945 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 5: It's a little bit of a black guy. You get 946 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 5: caught cheating deliberately at the Olympics. That's that's high level stuff. 947 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean, doping is one thing. 948 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 5: Yes, this is like systemic. This is like this apparently 949 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 5: they've you know, admitted to doing it for years. Well 950 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 5: here's the thing, you know, this this is like it's 951 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 5: like national policy, you know what I mean, It's like 952 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 5: your national team is like, you know, we're gonna be bad. 953 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: Look it is a bad, look really bad. And they've 954 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: been doing it for years apparently, and then I don't 955 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: know how long. 956 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 5: And of course, since they're cheating and they've been doing 957 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 5: it for years, they're world power in soccer, are they not. 958 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,959 Speaker 3: They did pretty good in the Copa America the men's team. 959 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: Oh so they're not that good. No, they're cheating and 960 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: they can't they can't. Wow. Yeah, okay, Well I trust 961 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: your expertise. 962 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: I don't. 963 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. 964 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 2: I mean I didn't read the whole story, but I 965 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: was just like, oh my gosh, it's Spygate two. I mean, 966 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 2: clearly they maybe they did consult Bill Belichick and that's 967 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 2: why they got caught off. Got to take a break here, 968 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: but plenty more coming your way on today's show. Second 969 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: hour of the show, we're gonna have Daikwon Jones joining 970 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: us here on set. Look forward to talking to him 971 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: about the defensive line. I want to ask him a 972 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: question about what has become of the different tactics in 973 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: terms of pass rush because with quick game and RPOs 974 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 2: edge rusher simply cannot get to the quarterback in time. 975 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: It's put an extra onus on interior defensive lineman to 976 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 2: generate the pressure instead. I want to talk to Taque 977 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 2: about that, and we'll get to that in the second 978 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: hour of the show. Plus plenty more players. Sound we 979 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 2: heard from Tarn Johnson today among others. We'll get to 980 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: them when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented 981 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 2: by Colt of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio Trade and 982 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 2: Camp One Bill's Live here at Saint John Fisher, Day 983 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: three of training Camp in the Books. Special thanks to 984 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 2: our friends at Wegmans for providing us with lunch once 985 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 2: again here at Saint John Fisher University. 986 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: Today. 987 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 2: They surprised us with Sushi Steve, which is made fresh 988 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 2: Dailly at Wegmans. From Sushi to Poke Bowls Meals to 989 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: Go has delicious options for sushi lovers, like the new 990 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: torched salmon Osha Sushi say that five times fast, no Way. 991 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 2: They got a spicy salmon mix blanched exparagus sesame seeds, 992 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: pressed with sushi rice and then topped with thinly sliced 993 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: king salmon and drizzled with spicy and Terioki sauces that 994 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: are torched to perfection. 995 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 5: I will admit it was really good. I had I've 996 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 5: long been a fan of it is good. I mean 997 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 5: I get those big trays all the time. 998 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 2: People you just put it out on the kitchen counter 999 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 2: and off people. 1000 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 3: I'd rather do that when I get down. 1001 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: You go to that and it's like a restaurant. You 1002 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: go to Wigans. They got the food, but you can 1003 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: get your own food. 1004 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: Ryeah. 1005 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: I kind of overdo it when I do that. Yeah, 1006 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: with the sushi stuff you get you it's good and you. 1007 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: Don't can eat like twenty of them. Yeah, and you 1008 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 3: don't feel like a you don't feel like a pig 1009 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 3: there beach trial, right. 1010 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So he kind of he's like wow, and like 1011 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 1: this lunch today it was absolutely perfect. Yeah. 1012 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 3: I had one of the yu Zoo shakers. 1013 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 2: It's basically a salad in like a smoothie sized cup. 1014 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: Do you shake the top and you shake, you put 1015 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: the dressing on, then you put the top back on 1016 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 2: and you shake it up, so it's like you're tossing 1017 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: a salad in a cup. 1018 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. They've been great because a lot of smart stuff. 1019 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 5: We said this when we first started doing good ideas 1020 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 5: over there, right, So we said this in the we 1021 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 5: first started doing this because it's a real problem for 1022 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 5: us because we're like six hundred yards from lunch. 1023 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 3: Right, and we got like up three flights of stairs 1024 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 3: and it's. 1025 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 5: And we have like a small amount of time between 1026 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 5: the end of practice and the show. Plus we have 1027 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 5: to record some pre recording, and we pre record. Some 1028 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 5: guys will come over early right after practice before they 1029 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 5: go shower and they'll talk to us and then we'll 1030 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 5: show it to you when during the show. So we 1031 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 5: got like even less time. So now Wegmans this year 1032 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 5: has been bringing us it's been it's like transformative. 1033 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: Let's just say that. 1034 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 3: It's off the change transformative. 1035 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 2: Wegmans is the official tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo Bills, 1036 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 2: so be sure to check them out when you're heading 1037 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: out to game day with your party plans. 1038 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 3: Whoever might be there. 1039 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 2: Uh, we've got a big second hour coming your way. 1040 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna hear from Dayikwon Jones, who will join us 1041 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: here on set. We will also hear from Keon Coleman 1042 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 2: and one of the new leaders on the defensive side 1043 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 2: of the ball, Taron Johnson. So We look forward to 1044 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: hearing from all of those players as we are wall 1045 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 2: to wall player commentary here on a Friday edition of 1046 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,959 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. And if we have a little extra time, 1047 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: we'll try to get to some of those questions that 1048 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: we're asking the OBL Friday fan mail Bag. Probably do 1049 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 2: that in the second half of our number two, But 1050 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 2: de Kwon Jones is coming your way next here on 1051 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. 1052 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, the. 1053 00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 2: One Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health. Welcome back Hour 1054 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 2: number two here on a Friday at Bill's training camp 1055 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 2: at Saint John Fisher Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Please to 1056 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 2: be joined now by defensive tackle for your Buffalo Bills 1057 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 2: one day, Kwon Joe's number ninety two in your program, 1058 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 2: number one in your heart and the pride of Johnson City, 1059 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 2: New York. 1060 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: Sir. 1061 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 2: So, let's just start with your off season, because you 1062 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 2: had to come back from an injury. You did that 1063 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 2: successfully before the season was over. I know you were 1064 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 2: determined to do that. Did you have a normal off 1065 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 2: season or were there's still some rehab and strength stuff 1066 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 2: that you had to do besides your regular football prep. 1067 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 6: No, not really. 1068 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 18: I just kept up the same program that Jomika gave me. 1069 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 18: I'm going that did that tore the last part of 1070 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 18: my rehab, and I kind of just kept building that 1071 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 18: up in an off season. 1072 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 3: So regular offseason for the most part. 1073 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, okay, good off season. And I kind 1074 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 18: of gave it like a probably a good month. So 1075 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 18: I started looking like heavy, heavy and I had no 1076 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 18: problem with it. 1077 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 5: Good coming back in the OTA's getting acclimated. Ton of 1078 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 5: new faces in your room, Yeah, how's that going great? 1079 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 18: I mean, we have a lot of people in there, 1080 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 18: most I haven't been a part of. But for having 1081 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 18: so many people, we're all yelling together pretty well. And 1082 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 18: it's really open booking. And I love going into the 1083 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 18: meetings and you know, von Miller will get going on 1084 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 18: what he sees and and and just seeing everyone kind 1085 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 18: of just tune in and listen and taking notes. It 1086 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 18: is awesome to having that open dialogue amongst these men. 1087 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 18: It's pretty cool to see. 1088 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 2: There is one guy in there that's new to us, 1089 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: but not new to you. I mean you played with 1090 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 2: him in college and in the pros, Austin Johnson. What 1091 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 2: can you tell Bill's fans about the style of DT 1092 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: that he is. 1093 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we are are very 1094 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 18: similar in statue and and and how we play the game, 1095 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 18: and uh, very similar backgrounds of you know, playing in 1096 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 18: Penn State in the four to three attack and then 1097 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 18: being drafted through four teams. And I think he's doing 1098 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 18: a great job right now fighting that mold of going 1099 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 18: back and forth between that read and kind of get 1100 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 18: off technique. And I think he's been you know, fitting 1101 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 18: in with us pretty damn well. And then uh, you know, 1102 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 18: I think he's also a great sturt and camp. 1103 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 5: What's the biggest difference you see now Bobby Babbage is 1104 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 5: the voice in front of the room instead of your 1105 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 5: head coach, new defensive corner, third defensive coordinator in three years. 1106 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 18: Really just just an energy of I feel like he 1107 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 18: bringing the uh uh different type of energy. I think 1108 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,919 Speaker 18: there are all the defense we had are a great 1109 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 18: guy as far as mind and and and teaching teaching 1110 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 18: the game, but his energy donet match. And I think 1111 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 18: every day he comes in and he brings it and 1112 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 18: make sure that we are all ready and on the 1113 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 18: same page and and trying to even bring that over 1114 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 18: to the field. 1115 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 6: He like a little firecracker out that you've. 1116 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 18: Run around and you know he's he's everywhere and you 1117 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 18: love to see that at the at the player and 1118 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,439 Speaker 18: at the defense and even as a team. 1119 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: So you know, we love him. 1120 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 3: He looks like a firecracker too. He's dressed in red 1121 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 3: every day every day around. 1122 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: With the advance of the quick passing game, the r 1123 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 2: P O game, you know, it's very hard nowadays for 1124 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: your edge rushers to get home, Like even when they 1125 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 2: come clean, sometimes it's a challenge for them to get home. 1126 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 3: You guys still had fifty four sacks last year. 1127 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 2: You were a productive unit, but coach started using linebackers 1128 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: from inside positions. Dts have to make up more of 1129 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 2: the sack total now because they're just closer than the 1130 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: guys on the edges. 1131 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 3: No matter where they line up, they got a longer 1132 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 3: distance to cover. 1133 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,799 Speaker 2: So how do you guys as a defensive tackle group 1134 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: take on that challenge knowing you guys are gonna have 1135 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 2: to be more of that total at the end of 1136 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 2: the season with all the quick game and RPO game. 1137 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 18: You see, Yeah, I think we we we acknowledged that 1138 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 18: last year too. As far like the last part of 1139 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 18: the season, we kind of dropped off from the aspect, 1140 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 18: and you know, the challenge to ourselves and this group 1141 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 18: for this year is if to be able to maintain 1142 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 18: what we did in the first Alfage Fever, Yeah, you know, 1143 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 18: to the end. And we talked about it daily and 1144 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 18: I think we're all very motivated to go out there 1145 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 18: and I prove that point that we can. We can 1146 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 18: do it, we can maintain it, and we can definitely 1147 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 18: pick it up when time needs too. So we we 1148 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 18: we acknowledge that the elephant and where we're right for 1149 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 18: the challenge. 1150 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 5: Give us some insight into the conversations between the back 1151 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 5: end and the front. Now you've got a bunch of 1152 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 5: new guys in the back, different voices now Mike and 1153 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 5: Jordan aren't there, and that we noticed that when when 1154 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 5: you guys are humming along, there's a lot of screaming 1155 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 5: going on because you guys are talking about everything as 1156 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 5: the play is about to be snapped. Tell us about 1157 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 5: how that's going and how those conversations are going. 1158 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I think it's going going pretty well. 1159 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 18: You know, we're getting better each and every day, and 1160 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 18: the first two days I think there was a little 1161 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 18: communication stuff there but then today we come out here, 1162 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 18: we get some hands on balls and we have three 1163 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 18: takeaways and uh delan getting a hands up. And I 1164 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 18: think to be able to be out there and get 1165 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 18: those reps together as a unit, and you know, and 1166 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 18: and a live action like that is you know, really 1167 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 18: gonna just help us. And I think every day we're 1168 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 18: gonna keep getting better and better. 1169 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,919 Speaker 2: All right, So now we got to have a little 1170 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 2: fun here because we saw the NFL Superhole Cornhole tournament 1171 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 2: and it came down to you and a teammate in 1172 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 2: the finals. 1173 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 3: About you and Dion Dawkins, And why. 1174 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: Don't we just share for those that may have missed it, 1175 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 2: who emerged victorious from that final star Yeah, what was 1176 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: the score again? 1177 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, I can't remember. 1178 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 18: If it was no, they would be in the pretty 1179 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 18: go there like nine to nine to three, nine of 1180 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 18: four and you guys had to come back. 1181 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 6: We had to come back, and I know the rest 1182 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 6: of history after that. 1183 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So tell me the level of bragging 1184 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: rights that cornhole carries in the locker room, because we 1185 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: know that we're talking about hyper competitive people in an 1186 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 2: NFL locker room. 1187 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 3: That's number one. 1188 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 2: Due I mean you guys would do it with tittley 1189 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 2: wings for good. So where does where does the corn 1190 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 2: hole bragging rights rank in the locker room amongst games 1191 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: that you guys play off the field. 1192 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 5: I mean, if you say anything other than it's the 1193 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 5: most important aspects of our off field activities, I will 1194 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 5: be disappointed in you. 1195 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: I know. 1196 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 6: I mean we think it. We take it very seriously. 1197 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 6: We have a hope, we have a whole chart, a 1198 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 6: whole list of rankings list. 1199 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 18: Yeah. 1200 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, of like you know, the top five in the 1201 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 6: locker room. Yeah, we take it very seriously. 1202 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 2: So where so are you you at the top because tournament, ye, 1203 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 2: do they work it like that like boxing does, where 1204 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 2: you have to earn the right to even get on 1205 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 2: the on the car. 1206 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 6: On the car, you have to beat someone at least 1207 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 6: at least twice in a row for. 1208 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 3: Twice in a row. Okay, so that's the standard. 1209 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 5: So and and like how many people I don't know, 1210 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 5: if you've got this deep, how many people are like 1211 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 5: trying to get like we want a pc U. 1212 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: Well not a lot, I mean nobody wants you. 1213 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 6: Nobody wants Tyson champion. 1214 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 18: I mean not taking a lot of guys also left too, 1215 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 18: so we have to find a new new crop of talent. 1216 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, crop talent. 1217 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 3: So your number one is Dean two or somebody else 1218 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1219 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 6: I mean a pretty good oh aj okay is very good. 1220 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 2: This sounds like alignment sport very quickly. Here, is there 1221 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 2: any like guys off the ball that even come close 1222 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 2: to Kim Kim? 1223 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 18: Pretty Sam okay? I mean he he played a lot 1224 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 18: last year and haven't seen himround this year. A lot, 1225 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 18: but you never know what cam okay. 1226 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 2: So now, second question, is there a home base for 1227 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 2: the team where everybody goes to play? I mean, if 1228 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 2: it's out in public, you don't have to tell us 1229 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 2: because we don't want people bum rushing. But is there 1230 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 2: a guy's house that is a frequent home base for 1231 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 2: we playing in the locker room? 1232 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, that's fair. 1233 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 2: Uh, Let's talk a little bit about your hometown in 1234 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 2: central New York because I know you've got a business 1235 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 2: down there from Binghamton. Now just share with us, because 1236 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you. I'm sure you go 1237 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 2: back and you see a fair amount of red, white 1238 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: and blue. There's Bill's, there's Bill's mafia in the Binghamton 1239 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 2: Johnson City area. So maybe just share with them, you know, 1240 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 2: the local business you've you've opened up and you got 1241 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 2: up and running there. 1242 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1243 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 18: I opened up a uh a liquor lounge there about 1244 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 18: three years ago and it's been been doing great. It's 1245 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 18: called The Lounge, and you know, we just I wanted 1246 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 18: to bring something to my hometown just to change up. 1247 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 18: I mean it's a very small area. We have like 1248 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 18: a block of bars. Yeah yeah, but we have a 1249 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 18: great university and being the university and a lot of 1250 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 18: kids come up from New York and just trying to 1251 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 18: continue to grow that area for them and so they 1252 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 18: can kind of just have more stuff to do. 1253 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 6: So I mean, my first project. 1254 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 18: Ain't gonna be my last one, and kind of just 1255 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 18: keep on improving an area back home and trying to 1256 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 18: make it as great as you can. 1257 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 5: Now you've got a spot established, like you know, you're 1258 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 5: kind of thinking about you're off the field stuff. Now 1259 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 5: you're at the point of your career too where you're 1260 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 5: kind of turn it into maybe a mentor you got 1261 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 5: a you know, a draft kid, come the kid, Dwayne 1262 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 5: Carter coming in. Now you're the guy that you know, 1263 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 5: I know when you came in, there were older guys 1264 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 5: and you were kind of looking at and say, hey, 1265 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 5: how do I do this? 1266 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: And now you've got young guys. 1267 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 5: How do you feel about a job like your job 1268 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 5: to mentor guys be a part of the culture is 1269 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 5: particularly with guys exiting the room and you being one 1270 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 5: of the important guys still standing. 1271 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I love it. I truly try to 1272 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 18: embrace it and every way I can. And guys you 1273 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 18: know that are are even in the second year thirdier 1274 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 18: here we talk all the time about like what they 1275 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 18: should be doing off the field and as far as 1276 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 18: investments and and and what to get into. And I 1277 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 18: just try to tell them, don't don't be afraid to 1278 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 18: take chances on some stuff, you know what I mean, Like, uh, 1279 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 18: you don't know what you like until you do it. 1280 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 18: So for me, I try to be a jack of 1281 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 18: all trade and I try to dabble and everything I 1282 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 18: can to see what I really like. And and so 1283 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 18: when I transitioned finally comes when I can hamp to cleef, 1284 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 18: I'll have a couple of different things they can get into. 1285 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 5: And how about the same notion in between the lines 1286 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 5: on the field, when these guys come in and certainly 1287 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 5: these nobody gets to the national football legue without having 1288 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 5: some success someplace, right, But when they get here, you know, 1289 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,959 Speaker 5: all of a sudden they realize it's a different animal. 1290 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 5: How do you help them make the transition as a 1291 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 5: young player, even the first I mean, it takes a 1292 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 5: minute to find your support system, your off season routine. 1293 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 5: That's why the third year a lot of times is 1294 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 5: where these guys finally get that off season finally done. 1295 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 5: They get a couple of years under their belt, and 1296 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 5: now they feel like they've got a routine they can 1297 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 5: go to. 1298 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: How do you help them with that transition as well? 1299 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 18: I think there's kind of reminded them that you know, 1300 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 18: what got you here got you here and having that 1301 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 18: self belief. Uh, you know, I've been around the places, 1302 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 18: been in Tennessee when we were won two games to 1303 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 18: three games, and uh, the nature of the business can 1304 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,000 Speaker 18: be kind of nasty and and and at the end 1305 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 18: of the day, all depends on where you're at too. 1306 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 18: And I think the coaching staff here and in the 1307 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 18: organization treated their players with so much respect, and I 1308 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 18: think that give them time to give them time to 1309 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 18: develop and just kind of remind them that you have 1310 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 18: that time and believe in who you are. 1311 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 6: I mean, I think that's the biggest battle. 1312 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 18: You come here, you see someone like at Oliver and 1313 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 18: you try to you try to match him, or you 1314 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 18: see someone you outolize, like von Miller. 1315 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 6: You want to try to be that guy. 1316 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 18: But like you know, we all have our own skill talents, 1317 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 18: and uh, to the end of the day, believe in 1318 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 18: yourself and what got you here and building on that. 1319 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 18: I don't try to be too much or try to 1320 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 18: be like someone someone else, and you'd be fine. 1321 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Who would you say, of those young guys, is in 1322 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 2: your ear the most? Who was asking you the most questions? 1323 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,959 Speaker 3: Hey, you got a second. I was just wondering about 1324 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 3: who's who's seeking knowledge the most. 1325 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 18: I mean, I wouldn't say one one person in particular. 1326 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 18: I feel like they all do a really good job, 1327 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 18: and I mean it, but they all like, uh, they're 1328 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 18: all out there ready all the time, and we go 1329 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 18: out here for pre practice and more like pre practice 1330 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 18: was sitting out there where we better work on our technique. 1331 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 18: Or they have a question that they're not afraid to ask, 1332 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 18: which which is a rarity because a lot of guys 1333 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 18: just don't do that. You know a lot of guys 1334 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,439 Speaker 18: rather be quiet or the too you think a question 1335 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 18: is too dumb, and it's not. And these guys are there, 1336 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 18: and if I at the bit and they're to ask 1337 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 18: their question, that we kind of just open book it 1338 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 18: and give give them a weekend. 1339 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to. 1340 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,439 Speaker 5: Also we talked to you about Bobby Babbage. What about 1341 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 5: Marcus West He was now is a guy you kind 1342 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 5: of familiar with. 1343 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 3: In the room for astant. 1344 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 5: Now he's up. How's he handling that has been? He's 1345 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 5: a new defensive line coach after you know, everybody kind 1346 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,919 Speaker 5: of went up a notch on the on the pecking order. 1347 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 5: Now he's a full position coach. How's he handling that is? 1348 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 5: You know, what's he bringing to the table. 1349 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 6: I think he's doing a great job. I think the 1350 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 6: guys respect him. 1351 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 18: When he was here with Coach Washington as as an assistant, 1352 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 18: and uh, you know when he when even then, he 1353 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 18: you know, earned the respect of the room and guys 1354 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 18: seemed to go with him to talk to him about 1355 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 18: stuff when they were deal dealing with whatever their technique 1356 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 18: or playbook. And so when he got the job, I 1357 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 18: think it kind of just fellow the room down a 1358 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 18: little bit, not have to you don't get to know 1359 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 18: a new coach and kind of just be able to 1360 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 18: continue off what we we built with them. So I 1361 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 18: think he's doing a great job up there. The energy 1362 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 18: out there that like unmatch. It almost like a mini 1363 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 18: Bobby bad Bitch out there, you know, in between the 1364 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 18: snaps and he's run down the field with us. So 1365 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 18: I think he's doing a great job. 1366 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 2: Can you can you speak to that because we get 1367 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 2: calls sometimes where people say, well, what is it? What 1368 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 2: does it matter if the coach is energetic, the players 1369 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 2: need to be energetic. But I don't think some fans 1370 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 2: realize what a charge that puts into a player. Can 1371 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 2: you just kind of share with them when you got 1372 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 2: your coach hopping up and down so pumped up that 1373 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 2: you may not have even won the play, but you 1374 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 2: executed the play with the technique that they want for them, 1375 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 2: that's a positive and they're jumping up and down and everything. 1376 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: Just the effect that that has on a on a unit, 1377 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,919 Speaker 2: a line, a defense as a whole. When you see 1378 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: your coach over there, who's not even playing the game, 1379 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 2: but he is like jacked through the roof the way 1380 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 2: you're executed. 1381 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I think, uh, I mean, we're all 1382 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 18: creatures of it, right, the energy, Like we're all we 1383 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 18: all feed off it. And and you know, some days 1384 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 18: I might be dragging, or the guy next to me 1385 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 18: might be dragging, or the damn it, the whole team 1386 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 18: might be dragging one day, and and the coach they're 1387 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 18: bringing the energy and you kind of just feed off 1388 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 18: that and trickles through the whole team. And I mean, 1389 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 18: I think, I think it's great. I that might be 1390 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 18: one of the weirdest thing that people someone can say. 1391 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 18: But like, I mean, if the coach over there just 1392 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 18: quiet and it's negative all the time, you're not, you 1393 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 18: probably won't get a lot of good results. 1394 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 6: From your guys. 1395 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 18: And uh and it makes you want to play that 1396 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 18: much harder for the guys and for the coaches that 1397 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 18: are uh, you know, locked into when truly paying attention 1398 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 18: to what you're doing and not just telling you, oh, well, 1399 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 18: I don't know, I fee later on film. 1400 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 6: They're in tune. 1401 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 18: They can they can give you feedback right there to 1402 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 18: spin it back out with you because they're they're literally 1403 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 18: in the dam they play that, they're they're right here 1404 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 18: they're like, you know, five years away and they're in 1405 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 18: it and they can see it all. 1406 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're getting you're getting good feedback. 1407 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 5: One of the things we watched Brown and I can 1408 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 5: watch you guys, and I know it's really early in camp. 1409 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 5: You guys haven't even put pads on yet, but we've 1410 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 5: been watching. We've been noticing to the guys that you're 1411 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 5: playing against the offensive line when they move Connor down 1412 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 5: inside the guard, when they're plugging to center from guard 1413 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 5: and they plug in you know, David Edwardson, it they're big. 1414 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 5: It's a big offensive line. It's a big old line. 1415 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 5: How do you got and what do you see? I mean, 1416 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 5: you you played a lot and you've seen a lot 1417 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 5: of old lines. Give us a little synopsis about what 1418 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 5: you see playing against them. 1419 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna be They're gonna 1420 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 18: be foulid man. I'm I'm I'm curious. You know, we 1421 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,520 Speaker 18: put pads on, how how it's gonna be. But I 1422 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 18: feel like they're they're all moving together on the same 1423 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 18: page and not really having a lot of enemy out there. 1424 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 18: And you know, they're they're changing it upro pretty good far, 1425 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 18: like the protections and and and trying to trick us 1426 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 18: up so we can't get a jump on it. So 1427 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 18: they have that kind of chemistry already. Uh you know 1428 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 18: we uh day through the camp is Yeah. I think 1429 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 18: it says a lot to how much they are putting 1430 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 18: in an off outside of the football field. Even last 1431 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 18: night walking into the do arms you know, the on 1432 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 18: line in there and they're in they're studying together. 1433 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 6: I think that is huge. I think goes a long 1434 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,919 Speaker 6: way and if a testament to their their work ethic. 1435 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kwon, thanks for spending some time with us, so 1436 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 3: it was good to visit with you. We appreciate it. 1437 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 3: They were healthy this year, yeah yeah, and kill it. 1438 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 3: You were on a track for a Pro Bowl last year, 1439 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 3: so let's let's let's repeat that and stay healthy and 1440 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 3: get through all seventeen games. Sure appreciate it. 1441 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 6: Thank you guys. 1442 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 2: All Right, So good conversation there with Daikwon Jones, and 1443 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 2: I found his answer to you know, the pass rushing 1444 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 2: issue to be pretty interesting because we're seeing more and 1445 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 2: more of this short passing to neutralize opposing pass rushes 1446 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 2: RPO game. 1447 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 3: Obviously the balls out quick. 1448 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 2: So more teams and we saw the Bills do this 1449 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,479 Speaker 2: schematically defensively, last year, when Matt Molana was still healthy, 1450 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 2: he was being used heavily as a blitzer from an 1451 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 2: inside position, whether it's an A gap or B on occasion, 1452 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,919 Speaker 2: and sometimes they would put him out on the edge 1453 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 2: almost as a decoy to draw attention. And then you know, 1454 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 2: basically bum rush the middle of the formation because the 1455 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 2: shortest distance between two points is a straight line, and 1456 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 2: the defensive tackles are obviously much closer to the quarterback. 1457 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 2: And so there's this pass rushing element that's now been 1458 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 2: added to the repertoire of all defensive tackles. You no 1459 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 2: longer have like a space eater out there on passing downs. 1460 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 2: You need guys that can go. And that's why I 1461 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 2: envision you think about the draft choice that was made 1462 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 2: in the third round of Dwayne Carter at a duke. 1463 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,480 Speaker 2: He's a defensive tackle in the mold of an at Oliver. 1464 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's at Oliver's skill set to a t, 1465 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 2: but he's a similar type build, similar type player. Ten 1466 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 2: years ago, you don't have those two guys lining up 1467 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 2: next to each other. Now you need that because you 1468 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 2: need that pass rush push to try to get to 1469 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 2: the quarterback from the inside rather than the outside because 1470 01:06:59,240 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 2: the ball's out. 1471 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 5: Ye, you need penetrators. You need guys that can explode 1472 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 5: through the gaps in the offensive line. Take advantage of 1473 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 5: to wide a line splits all that you can force 1474 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 5: the offensive line to squeeze their line splits down. Shorten 1475 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 5: the edges as well. Because you got guys that can 1476 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 5: explode through the gaps. You get guys like that who 1477 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 5: can also draw a lot of holding penalties because the 1478 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,919 Speaker 5: linemen are just they got to reach back to grab 1479 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 5: the guy or he's buy him to protect a you know, 1480 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 5: fifty million dollars, you know guy back there. It's it's 1481 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 5: a new kind of thing also as well, more so 1482 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 5: than any point in NFL history. We've evolved to the 1483 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 5: point where all of them have their antennap to knock 1484 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 5: a pass down at the line of scrimmage. That's been 1485 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 5: a big thing now too. The one thing that has 1486 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 5: combated the RPOs and the quick release passing game is 1487 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 5: defensive schemes that squat on the short quick slants, make 1488 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 5: the quarterback go to a second read to hold it. 1489 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, they drop back. 1490 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 5: But the Bills do against toua that's right, That's exactly 1491 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 5: what I'm thinking about. That he pulls it, starts to 1492 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 5: look at and by that time he turns this way 1493 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 5: and he's hitting the ear hole. 1494 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 1495 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 5: That's is a big difference. And it's a different kind 1496 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 5: of schematic that we've seen come into the league defensively 1497 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:10,960 Speaker 5: that we haven't seen in the past. 1498 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 2: So I'm very curious to see because you know that 1499 01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 2: that kind of scheming goes back and forth. The defense 1500 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 2: comes up with a solution, the offense comes. 1501 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Up with something. 1502 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,520 Speaker 5: They they come up with a scheme or a technique 1503 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,759 Speaker 5: to combat it. Because if yeah, there's no magic elixir. 1504 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 5: We say it all the time, there's no magic wand 1505 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 5: that solves every problem because as soon as you solve it, 1506 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 5: you weaken yourself someplace else and you open yourself up 1507 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 5: to another counter attack by the offense or defense. 1508 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,439 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's ongoing. It's a debate that happens 1509 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: on the field. 1510 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 2: I do want to expand on something we were discussing 1511 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 2: out on the field. You know, we're watching one v 1512 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 2: one O line D line pass rush drill, and we're 1513 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 2: just kind of thinking to ourselves, look the Bills were 1514 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 2: six in the league in sacks last year. They're leading 1515 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 2: sacker no longer on the roster, and Leonard Floyd. I 1516 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,719 Speaker 2: think you would certainly hope that Vaughan fills that void 1517 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 2: a year further removed from the ACL injury and maybe 1518 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 2: can get you eight to ten sacks. 1519 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 3: And then if Greg Rousseau has. 1520 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 2: A career year, you know, here in the year five 1521 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 2: or four. Sorry, uh, you know, maybe you can replicate that. 1522 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 2: But we saw the Bills blitz a lot last year 1523 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 2: and did so with pretty good effectiveness. Sean McDermott was 1524 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 2: a far more aggressive play caller than Leslie Fraser. I 1525 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 2: think if I wonder how much that aggressiveness continues if 1526 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,679 Speaker 2: you're getting a career season from Rousseau and a bounce 1527 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 2: back season from Miller, because I think that would reduce 1528 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 2: the need to blitz per se you know what I'm saying, Like. 1529 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,720 Speaker 5: I know exactly what you're saying. If you can, and 1530 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 5: because it's a numbers game, the best defenses get the 1531 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 5: best pressure with just four with no blitzes, and they 1532 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 5: get it the fastest. So we saw, you know, we 1533 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 5: saw the Legion of Boom in Seattle win a Super 1534 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,600 Speaker 5: Bowl against the greatest offense we've bet are seen up 1535 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 5: to that point, and they crushed it because they got 1536 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 5: quick pressure with only four rushing It gives seven guys 1537 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 5: a chance to mill around back there and pick their spots, 1538 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 5: and you just don't have You can't combat that. If 1539 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 5: they can get quick pressure with the fewest number of guys, 1540 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 5: which that's what the Sattle Seahawks did, you can't beat 1541 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 5: that defense. So if you're getting a good year from 1542 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 5: von Miller and you're getting some production from Greg Russo 1543 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 5: and Ed Oliver continues to elevate, you know that's that's 1544 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 5: gonna be a problem for teams in the passing game. 1545 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 5: They're gonna have to get rid of it fast, and 1546 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 5: it's going to force them into doing things. Whether they're 1547 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 5: good at it or not, they gotta They got to 1548 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,640 Speaker 5: get the ball out. So whether the good of the 1549 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,839 Speaker 5: short passing game or not, whether they can have matchups 1550 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 5: they can win or not, they got to do it. 1551 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 5: And that's a that's a bad place for an offense 1552 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 5: to be forced into being. 1553 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: We do want to open the obl Friday fan mailbag. 1554 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 2: Haven't had a chance to do that yet here on 1555 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,719 Speaker 2: this Friday and Connor has the first question, and he asks, 1556 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 2: from what is coming out of training camp? It seems 1557 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 2: like all the wide receivers are really stepping up. My question, 1558 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 2: how many wide receivers make the fifty three and who 1559 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 2: would be your prediction. 1560 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 6: I think with the. 1561 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 2: Expansion of practice squads, which are now sixteen players, you 1562 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 2: don't have to necessarily go terribly fat at any one 1563 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,600 Speaker 2: position because you can supplement what you have on your 1564 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster with what you have on a 1565 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,040 Speaker 2: sixteen man practice squad, and you can almost cover every 1566 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,600 Speaker 2: position group you want by using your practice squad. Now 1567 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 2: you've also got the risk of having a practice squad 1568 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 2: player getting poached from your practice squad to an active 1569 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 2: roster somewhere else. You can protect up to four players 1570 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 2: on a weekly basis. I'm inclined to think it's going 1571 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 2: to be six receivers is on the roster, and right now, 1572 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 2: before any preseason games have been played and the pecking 1573 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 2: order can change, I'm gonna say your top four are 1574 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 2: key on Coleman, Curtis, Samuel Khalil, Shakir, MATC. 1575 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 3: Collins. If you're pretty confident about that. 1576 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 2: Where the question lies is with the final two spots, 1577 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,879 Speaker 2: and you've got a pool of nine players, yeah, competing 1578 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 2: for those last two spots. I would say the early 1579 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:33,480 Speaker 2: leaders for those two spots, I would go Tyrell Shavers. 1580 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's another guy that has 1581 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 3: separated himself. 1582 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,839 Speaker 1: Maybe kJ Hamler or Andy Isabella. 1583 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,720 Speaker 5: I think skills set still early for that. I think 1584 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 5: it's up for I think those last two spots are 1585 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 5: up for grabs. 1586 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 2: I will say this though, about the receiving corps in general, Steve. 1587 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,760 Speaker 2: When Diggs was here, it was kind of a. 1588 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 3: Follow my lead. You know, I'm gonna lead us, follow 1589 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:02,639 Speaker 3: my lead. 1590 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 2: And I think the way it is different with this 1591 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 2: group this year is, hey, let's all band together and 1592 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 2: get this thing done. So it's not like a follow me. 1593 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 2: It's like a let's all join together and get this accomplished. 1594 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,639 Speaker 2: It doesn't it's not terribly different, but but I think 1595 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 2: the vision of it looks very different on the field. 1596 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,799 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm talking out of two sides of my mouth. 1597 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Here, No, I get it. It is going to be different. 1598 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 5: We have never spent any time in this wide receiver 1599 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 5: room when Steph Diggs was here or not, But you'd 1600 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 5: have a hard time convincing me there isn't a very 1601 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 5: very different vibe in the room. 1602 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: Mac Hollins's testament to that. 1603 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a breath of fresh air. 1604 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think there's a chance here for 1605 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 5: some for some growth from some of the guys who 1606 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 5: may have been here before. 1607 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,720 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm kind of with you. I think there's 1608 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,520 Speaker 1: a there's a healthy. 1609 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 5: Competition going on in there are a bunch amongst a 1610 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 5: bunch of guys who really respect each other. And I 1611 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 5: you know, I think Josh right now is probably feeling like, Wow, 1612 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 5: this is pretty nice because he's showing it in the 1613 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 5: way he plays. Josh is throwing throwing the heck out 1614 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 5: of it. I mean, he looks really good and he's 1615 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 5: thrown it to everybody and you're seeing multiple player combinations, 1616 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 5: multiple formations all the most you're seeing just an absolute 1617 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 5: huge menu of stuff being thrown at the defense. Maybe 1618 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons they're being successful. But I 1619 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,640 Speaker 5: think Josh has got to be sitting back there in 1620 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 5: his dorm room at night, going, man, this is gonna 1621 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 5: be awesome. 1622 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think it has really look. 1623 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,519 Speaker 5: Good and I you know, and a lot of it 1624 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,599 Speaker 5: is because of the atmosphere that seems to be prevalent 1625 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 5: in the wide receiver room. 1626 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 2: Like you said, ray On the mail Bag says, if 1627 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,960 Speaker 2: Jake is a revelation and wins both the punting and 1628 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,679 Speaker 2: place kicking jobs, saving a roster spot, who would become 1629 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 2: the new holder for field goals and extra points. Wow, 1630 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 2: we're going a long way down the rabbit hole there. 1631 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I will say, Uh, Jake Browning punted today, looked 1632 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 3: pretty good. 1633 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,560 Speaker 2: He's a decent punter. I'm curious to see what he 1634 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 2: looks like in the preseason. And don't I don't think 1635 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 2: he takes both jobs. I think we have to remember 1636 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 2: that Tyler Bess just signed a contract extension last. 1637 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 3: Year, number two. 1638 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 2: He was six for six on field goal attempts today, 1639 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 2: looked really good doing it. 1640 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 3: His leg looked live. 1641 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 2: I mean he was sending him into the next parking 1642 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 2: lot through the uprights. 1643 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was. That was almost like a and 1644 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: I know it. 1645 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 5: Kicker stands over there and does gets warm and doesn't 1646 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 5: kind of hangs out the entire practice. He has one 1647 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 5: chance or just one period of practice to look good. 1648 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 5: And Tyler Bass took advantage that he made a statement 1649 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 5: today he was kicking sixty yarders, yeah, even though they. 1650 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: Were from forty one or whatever they were. 1651 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 3: And I was happy to hear a very supportive crowd 1652 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:07,879 Speaker 3: the fans. 1653 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 2: You could hear they were cheering on Tyler with every 1654 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 2: successive kick, which was nice to hear, because, as we've 1655 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 2: said before, he's had a season last year that I 1656 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 2: don't think measured up to his standards, and I wouldn't 1657 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 2: be surprised if he's back to the Tyler bass we 1658 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,639 Speaker 2: all have come to expect around here, the ultra consistent 1659 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,759 Speaker 2: kicker in clutch situations and from fifty yards plus without 1660 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,679 Speaker 2: a problem. But I think Browning could give Sam Martin 1661 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 2: a run for his money, and I'm interested to see 1662 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 2: how that unfolds through the course of training camp and 1663 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 2: the preseason. 1664 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 3: Got to take a break here. 1665 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 2: We have more questions we'll get to in the mailbag, 1666 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 2: but we also have Keon Coleman addressing the media, so 1667 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 2: we'll bring his comments to you next here on one 1668 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1669 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 9: You know. 1670 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,639 Speaker 2: Back here, I want Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 1671 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 2: with you and for the first time at training camp. 1672 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 2: Kean Coleman addressed the media after three pretty solid days 1673 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 2: of practice. 1674 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 3: For the rookie receiver. 1675 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say with the media this 1676 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,920 Speaker 2: afternoon after practice, just to start to. 1677 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 12: Picture and hell has training camp been so far? 1678 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 19: It's been fun in the past five days, uh, five days, right, 1679 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 19: something like that. Yeah, just you know, getting back into 1680 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,679 Speaker 19: that rhythm playing here in the calls, in the huddle 1681 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,680 Speaker 19: and going out there and executing and having fun with 1682 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 19: the guys. 1683 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,679 Speaker 14: So it's been great. It's been your favorite part, catching 1684 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 14: TI zones. 1685 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,680 Speaker 7: So when your reaction to the fan reception that you've 1686 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 7: received as an every day going. 1687 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 19: Exth I mean, I'm grateful, you know, I'm grateful to 1688 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 19: be be a fan favorite, and you know, I'm just 1689 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,639 Speaker 19: hoping to come out down and put on the sofa 1690 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,840 Speaker 19: them and execute, you know, do my job on. 1691 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, yesterday and Joe Brady talked about how you guys 1692 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,640 Speaker 10: have actrue positions or is not an actors on why 1693 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 10: it's tree man concepts, it's three man concepts. 1694 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:09,560 Speaker 11: Is that a little different for you? 1695 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 3: Are you used to that or are you used. 1696 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 10: To having just say I play the acts or is 1697 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 10: this something you know how you kind of learned these 1698 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 10: the offensive concepts from everyone you're going in the past. 1699 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 19: Nah, I'm used to playing everything. It's no such thing 1700 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 19: as an x ORYSD. You gotta get open. You called 1701 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 19: a receiver, not a whatever receiver you you got to 1702 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,600 Speaker 19: be to get open. And it's hard to learn the 1703 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 19: playbook just trying to learn one position, because you can 1704 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 19: easily be on the other side of the field in 1705 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 19: the slot outside inside, you could be motioning to it, 1706 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 19: different things like that. So I learned the playbook conceptionally, 1707 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 19: so I learned concept by concept and learn every single 1708 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 19: spot so I can be in there. 1709 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,799 Speaker 12: Where when didn't you start, you know, approaching a playbooked 1710 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 12: that way? Was it in college? High school? 1711 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 14: Like have you always been that way? 1712 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 6: Oh? 1713 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:50,280 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1714 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 14: College? 1715 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Really? 1716 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 19: Once I got to college high school playbooks are you know? 1717 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:55,760 Speaker 19: High school, it was like it wasn't even the x 1718 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 19: y z'ses. He was on the left, he was on 1719 01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 19: the left, he was on the right, he was on 1720 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,439 Speaker 19: the right. But getting to college, uh, learning playbooks, learning concepts, 1721 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 19: all that stuff came at once, and you know, my 1722 01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 19: coach broke it down to me and helped me learn it. 1723 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 14: The most efficient way I could. 1724 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 16: Yeah, great, ootiates you kind of told us how you 1725 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 16: learn a playbook, copy things down, looking at. 1726 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 1: It and writing over again. 1727 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 4: Or do you feel like you're at right now that 1728 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 4: you've been through ots and you've had a short five 1729 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,679 Speaker 4: week period of a break where you can still. 1730 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 7: Consume that playbook. 1731 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 14: I'm pretty confident. 1732 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 19: Uh, when I'm in a huddle here in the cars, 1733 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,479 Speaker 19: I can execute my job and do what I need 1734 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 19: to do. 1735 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 12: What's the chemistry feeling like with Josh right now? 1736 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 14: Feel great? 1737 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,560 Speaker 19: You know we're in a good spot to say. We 1738 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 19: five days in the training camp, so looking for that 1739 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 19: to keep on elevating. 1740 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,880 Speaker 3: I know you guys had a lot of the spring. 1741 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 7: You and Josh ks and know each other. 1742 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 3: You got together in the during the break. 1743 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 7: But what have you learned about there in those couple 1744 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 7: of months since you've been drafted And now there's your quarterback? 1745 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 10: Uh? 1746 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,560 Speaker 19: He probably more goofy than me, honestly, brother, like a 1747 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 19: big kid, loves to have fun and you know when 1748 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 19: it's time to get in a field, we gonna work. 1749 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,960 Speaker 7: I see flip the switch up while you're out there. 1750 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 14: Man, it's just natural, bro, Like you got a job 1751 01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 14: to do. 1752 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 19: When you put your hump when you walk the locker room, 1753 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,880 Speaker 19: not even when you put your helmet on you walk 1754 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 19: in the locker room. It's a job to do today, 1755 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,920 Speaker 19: so you know it's times to be fun. You gotta 1756 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 19: stay stay loose within, you know, playing so that you know, 1757 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,120 Speaker 19: having as much fun as you can while. 1758 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 14: Playing the game. You get to love so, I mean 1759 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 14: it's it's easy when you mention him being goofy? 1760 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,800 Speaker 12: How have you seen that at camp? Like he tells 1761 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 12: us a lot about how much funny he has here 1762 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 12: in the dorms and everything, Like, has he done anything 1763 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 12: particularly funny? 1764 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 15: Nah? 1765 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,920 Speaker 19: No, particularly like I love it here too. It's like, Uh, 1766 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 19: I didn't get to spend much time at dorms in college. 1767 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 19: But it's like everybody's in one space. So you you 1768 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 19: go to the lobby or your floor, you get to 1769 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 19: see the guys, hang out with them, play the game, 1770 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,440 Speaker 19: do funny stuff, just you know, be ourselves. 1771 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:37,960 Speaker 12: What's been your favorite game? 1772 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Uh? 1773 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 14: I don't even really play the game. I just be watching. 1774 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 14: I have my own game going on. I'll be talking 1775 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,240 Speaker 14: trash everybody while they playing the. 1776 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 7: Best warm set up? 1777 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 3: Huh you got the best like norm set up? 1778 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 19: I ain't going to nobody rooms. I mean, that's why 1779 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 19: we had a lobby area. I ain't trying to go 1780 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 19: in your room. That's your private area. 1781 01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's put your. 1782 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,280 Speaker 17: Reaction to a trendy game from bands and something on 1783 01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 17: the guys, So. 1784 01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 1: You just did. 1785 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 14: It's been great. 1786 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,640 Speaker 19: You know, it's all in one you know atmosphere, like 1787 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 19: in the middle of the game you can go, you know, 1788 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,640 Speaker 19: sign autographs or whatever. But you know that's that's not 1789 01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,680 Speaker 19: the case. But you get to have fun and then 1790 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,360 Speaker 19: after that and then brace the fans and the love. 1791 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,760 Speaker 13: Yeah, this guys like Coil g Ben, this offense happed 1792 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 13: a couple of years and the other bets like Matt 1793 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 13: collinstead of just what have you been able to learn 1794 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 13: from some of the more better than receivers and and 1795 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 13: that was super what have you been able to lap up? 1796 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 11: Oh? 1797 01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 19: So understanding you know, defense is more what they're trying 1798 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,679 Speaker 19: to do schematically, how to get open different release tips 1799 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 19: here and there, like just pretty much all the things 1800 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,559 Speaker 19: that they would know being in the lead for so long. 1801 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 19: So every day just learning something new, trying to get 1802 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 19: one percent better and try that here and there, try 1803 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 19: to implement how they're great at things into my game. 1804 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:43,240 Speaker 1: And it's on me. 1805 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 13: A few days after camp up, where would you say 1806 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 13: your relationship is chap with your breaking back thing. 1807 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 14: I mean, I think we like this. You feel me 1808 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 14: if you ask me, that's my guy. 1809 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,400 Speaker 6: You opened up seven. 1810 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 10: Out and seven with a nice touchdown down kind of 1811 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 10: like around the numbers area. I can kind of remember 1812 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 10: that play walking through it and kind of where you're 1813 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 10: where you're trying to get accomplished. 1814 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: On that route. 1815 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,560 Speaker 19: Really, so I had a Slasha and pretty much just 1816 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 19: do my job, get to the bottom of the numbers. 1817 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 19: And just what happened. Rasull was midpoint and got into 1818 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 19: his blind spot and he n't. 1819 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,080 Speaker 6: Know where I was. 1820 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 14: So it was just wide open. 1821 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 12: I been like going up against Rusault. 1822 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: I love it. 1823 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 19: You know, we get to conversate after each rep. Understand 1824 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,479 Speaker 19: how you why you want the rep, while you lost 1825 01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,640 Speaker 19: the rep, how to get better at it? 1826 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 14: Just different things like that uncomfortable. 1827 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 8: How are you moving around like a chess piece? 1828 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 15: And you know, what is your experience were playing with 1829 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 15: more season corners such as Benford. 1830 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 19: And Ela It's pretty well, I'm gonna answer the first 1831 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,880 Speaker 19: question moving around like a chess piece. I mean, I 1832 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 19: love it shows that you can have some versatility and 1833 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 19: that you actually know what you're doing out there, and 1834 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 19: you can build more trust between you, your OC and 1835 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 19: your quarterback and then going against them, guys, you just 1836 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 19: get better every ti every day. You know, every rep, 1837 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,679 Speaker 19: like I said, you conversated about the rep and understand 1838 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 19: why you want or why you lost it, and you 1839 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 19: come back to the next player and compete like that. 1840 01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 17: Oh yeah, did they say rookies just still have their 1841 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 17: edge spinder this time? You know, early in their first season. 1842 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,559 Speaker 17: You got to point a year now where it's every 1843 01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 17: day football and I were in the full time part 1844 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 17: and it still feel like it's fast or that you're 1845 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 17: still trying to kind of figure things out a little bit. 1846 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 19: Na, Why do you say that I've been studying. I've 1847 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,240 Speaker 19: been studying as simple as that I kinda know what's 1848 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 19: going on. I ain't go Condon know lot pretty much 1849 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 19: know what's going on. So I'm confident that I'm gonna 1850 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 19: know what's going on when I hear to call, to 1851 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:21,640 Speaker 19: get the calls, and I'm gonna line up and do 1852 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 19: my job. 1853 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 3: All right. 1854 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 2: That's Keon Coleman and Steve and I were talking during 1855 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 2: that interview, and I think people are gonna be pretty 1856 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 2: surprised as to how advanced Keon Coleman's football IQ is. 1857 01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 2: And you heard it when he described that slot fade 1858 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 2: route that he ran for a touchdown the other day 1859 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,560 Speaker 2: on Day one in the low red zone. He not 1860 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 2: only described what his assignment was, but he described how 1861 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 2: he got into Rasul Douglas's blind spot and was wide 1862 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 2: open as a result of that. I just think he 1863 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 2: knows how to play against leverage of the corner or 1864 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 2: where the corner is leverage help is, and then exploit 1865 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 2: the weakness. He really seems to identify coverage early in 1866 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,880 Speaker 2: the route and adjusts his route accordingly to get as 1867 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 2: open as possible. 1868 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 5: We've said for a long time, or I've noticed it 1869 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,560 Speaker 5: for a long time that and mentioned it on the 1870 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 5: show that guys are coming out of college way more polished, 1871 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,120 Speaker 5: and certainly the guys at the highest level are. And 1872 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 5: I'll say this too, the nil stuff at the college 1873 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,240 Speaker 5: level and the transferring you has really served some of 1874 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 5: these guys really well. You go from a Keon going 1875 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,599 Speaker 5: from Michigan State down to Florida State. You got Ray 1876 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,680 Speaker 5: Davis going from Vanderbilt to Kentucky and you get exposed 1877 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 5: to offensive installations and philosophies and coaching, and you get 1878 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 5: guys that are pretty high level thinkers at a very 1879 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,760 Speaker 5: much younger age than he used to. I think that 1880 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 5: the league is benefiting from. I mean, Keon's a perfect example. 1881 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 5: I mean, the guys the stuff he was talking about 1882 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 5: is veteran stuff back in my day. Yeah, you got 1883 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 5: to you gotta be around it and think about it 1884 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 5: and be coached it and talk about it at a 1885 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 5: high level and then have the chance to wrap it. 1886 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 5: You don't get that unless you're on a team that 1887 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 5: where that's going on, and it takes a long time 1888 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,599 Speaker 5: in the pros to get there. These guys are coming 1889 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,760 Speaker 5: in like Keon, and probably there's some other guys too, 1890 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 5: but anybody who's playing at the level these guys are 1891 01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 5: in college and stuff are are getting a head start 1892 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 5: where guys back in the in the distant past when 1893 01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 5: I played, never got and and it shows, I mean, 1894 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 5: you can tell he's he's talking master's level stuff here, 1895 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,400 Speaker 5: and you know, and you don't get to the PhD 1896 01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 5: level until you do one offense, and that's your offense, 1897 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 5: and you go through it with it, and then you 1898 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 5: you can only get a PhD in that one offense. 1899 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 2: And the best part was the question right at the end, 1900 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 2: well why do you feel it's coming so easy to you? 1901 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 2: When he said, because I'm studying. Yeah, he's putting the 1902 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 2: time and it's not like it just comes naturally to him. 1903 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,400 Speaker 2: He's putting the study where so it is easy for 1904 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 2: him on the field. And here's the other thing, And 1905 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 2: maybe I'm at fault for assuming this, but you see 1906 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 2: a guy who is who is as accomplished as he 1907 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,919 Speaker 2: is in two sports. 1908 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this kid was. 1909 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,760 Speaker 2: State player of the Year in Louisiana in basketball in 1910 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 2: high school. He went to play college basketball for Tom 1911 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 2: Izzo at Michigan State, who's got like eight final fours 1912 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,559 Speaker 2: on his resume, and also played football at the same time. 1913 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 2: And so my logic says, well, you know a guy 1914 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 2: like him who's dividing his time to two sports at 1915 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 2: the highest level of college football and then comes to 1916 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 2: the NFL level, he's gonna be a little behind in 1917 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 2: his development, IQ and those kinds of things. 1918 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 3: That's what logic says to me. 1919 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,439 Speaker 2: And he has already impressed me to the umpteenth degree 1920 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 2: with his football knowledge, his IQ and his ability to 1921 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:08,400 Speaker 2: identify things on the field quickly and then readjust accordingly 1922 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,840 Speaker 2: to make plays. It's downright impressive and I think it's 1923 01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 2: gonna put him on a fast track to being a 1924 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 2: playmaker for this football team this year. 1925 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree, and I. 1926 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 5: That's what helps you play well. Preparation helps you play well. 1927 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,360 Speaker 5: Knowing what you're doing helps you play well. It's that simple. 1928 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds simple than it is. It's not easy, 1929 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:34,840 Speaker 5: and Keon obviously has put in a ton of work. 1930 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,599 Speaker 5: And let's face it, you go these guys go out 1931 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:39,200 Speaker 5: and play football. 1932 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 1: It's fun. 1933 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 5: It's fun to go out there. You're built for it, 1934 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,160 Speaker 5: you've trained for it. Let's go out and have fun. 1935 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,720 Speaker 5: And you're in the sunshine with all your boys. Let's 1936 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 5: go out and take a rap, let's compete, Let's have 1937 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:46,800 Speaker 5: some fun. 1938 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1939 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 5: The not fun part is sitting in your room with 1940 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 5: a playbook looking at lines and x's and o's, or 1941 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 5: watching film on a on a you know surface, and 1942 01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 5: you're sitting there just you know, grind in a way, 1943 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 5: trying to acknowledge and it's just his willingness to do 1944 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 5: both those things. 1945 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,400 Speaker 1: Is really gonna hold him in good stead? 1946 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:06,600 Speaker 3: Break time for us. 1947 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,479 Speaker 2: We'll try to get to a final question in the 1948 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,360 Speaker 2: mail bag when we return here on one Bill's Live 1949 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 2: Stay with Us. 1950 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 3: Got time for one more. 1951 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 2: Question here in the mail bag, and John asked what 1952 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,479 Speaker 2: your feelings on incentive based contracts for quarterbacks. I feel 1953 01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 2: like they're getting out of hand, as the caliber of 1954 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks are much different. 1955 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,759 Speaker 3: Maybe that's something Miami's trying to He wants incentive based 1956 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 3: instead of guaranteed. 1957 01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 5: A ton of guaranteed you get for so many quarter 1958 01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 5: ray thresholds, meaning you'd get so much per touchdown, you'd 1959 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,680 Speaker 5: get so much for five or ten or twenty touchdowns, 1960 01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,880 Speaker 5: or being ranked in the league. 1961 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 2: There are incentives that are in quarterbacks. Money is so guaranteed. Now, 1962 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't think you come back from at the. 1963 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,160 Speaker 5: The the incentives. Actually there's some, but there's most of 1964 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,680 Speaker 5: them are removed because of the salary cap implications. You 1965 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 5: can't get a set not likely to be earned. Yeah, 1966 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,840 Speaker 5: you gotta you gotta get a set value. So that's 1967 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,559 Speaker 5: a real problem. Getting back to the cat's already out 1968 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:15,840 Speaker 5: of the bag. 1969 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 2: With guaranteed money, you're never coming back From that, that's 1970 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,400 Speaker 2: it for us today. We'll be back here on Monday 1971 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 2: for more training camp coverage. 1972 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 3: We'll see at one pm