WEBVTT - Hunter Doohan

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy di Dario. This is the first episode of this show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am so excited you were tuning in. So

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<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic, it was March twenty twenty, the world

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<v Speaker 1>shut down and my job stopped. I wasn't going on

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<v Speaker 1>television and doing my feel good segments and my celebrity interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to pivot and I was sitting home

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what was I going to do. Was I going

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<v Speaker 1>to contribute during this scary time, or was I going

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<v Speaker 1>to do something to help people feel connected and together

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<v Speaker 1>and close to the people that they admired. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I did. So I launched an Instagram live show.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called Let's Stay Together, where I brought on

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<v Speaker 1>today's hottest actors from films and TV shows and we

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<v Speaker 1>dove deep into the projects that fans loved, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we went there on some other more human connection type

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<v Speaker 1>of questions. It was a five day a week show

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<v Speaker 1>for quite some time, and then as the world began reopening,

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<v Speaker 1>we scaled it back. But it was something that I

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<v Speaker 1>had a very big aha moment doing, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>people don't just want to hear about the highs in

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's life, right, they want to hear about the lows.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to learn about what they went through and

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<v Speaker 1>what they took away from that low. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do the show because I think it's so important to

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<v Speaker 1>have conversations that go deep, and when I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>red carpet, I don't get the chance to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see the people I'm interviewing. They're craving it.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to go there, right, We're just about to

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<v Speaker 1>get there, and then we run out of time. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the space to have the time to go there,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that's where we can all connect to

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<v Speaker 1>one another. You see the shine, you see the glitz,

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<v Speaker 1>you see the glamour. It's smoking mirrors. We're all stripped down.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show people that we all have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more in common than we don't. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>show where people who pretend to be someone else for

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<v Speaker 1>a living have the chance to be real. Today's guest

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<v Speaker 1>is no big deal. One of the most talked about

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<v Speaker 1>actors in the world right now. Hunter Duhan grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Fort Smith, Atlanta, where he had big dreams of

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<v Speaker 1>making it in Hollywood and I think it's safe to

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<v Speaker 1>say he did just that. You may know him from

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<v Speaker 1>his co starring role as Brian Cranston's son in Your

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<v Speaker 1>Honor on Showtime, or of course, as Tyler in Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, starring in one of the most popular shows

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of Netflix ever, where he plays Jeno

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<v Speaker 1>Ortego's love interest turned billing and on a personal note,

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<v Speaker 1>I am so psyched that season two has been announced,

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<v Speaker 1>because well, we all need more of his brilliant character

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<v Speaker 1>work playing the evil monster known as the Hide. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's see if today we can get Hunter to

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<v Speaker 1>say something that he has never said before. Okay, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to ask you first before we dive in. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on your Instagram doing a little scrolling, and I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed there was a picture of you as a kid

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<v Speaker 1>giving the middle finger. A little scared that that might

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me today if you don't like the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta give me the backstory on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a warning to everyone I do an interview.

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<v Speaker 3>With, so behave No. That's I think the credit or

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<v Speaker 3>blame for that goes to my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>For encouraging me to take that picture.

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<v Speaker 3>In taking it, she's the best and has a very

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<v Speaker 3>immature sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you a spicy kid? Was that your default?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was like little, But then when I

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<v Speaker 3>was in like high school, like not at all, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like kind of lame. I was just running around

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<v Speaker 3>the theater department and got very involved in my like

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<v Speaker 3>youth group church. I was like not going to party

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<v Speaker 3>like drinking parties as me like oh called them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were a good boy, mm hmm, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously that phase maybe didn't last through your work

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<v Speaker 1>because you kind of play a bad boy on Wednesday, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, spoiler alert, but Eve had two months come on, people,

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<v Speaker 3>catch up. Yeah. It was so fun kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>to play both. That was kind of like the nice

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<v Speaker 3>guy for seven episodes and then you know, we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>that like big shift to happen on the last one,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting to play the villain. And I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I think last time we talked, I couldn't say anything

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<v Speaker 3>because I didn't know. But we are officially coming back

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<v Speaker 3>for a second season, so I get to like start

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<v Speaker 3>off the second season in that place, which is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's huge, congratulations to you. I know that waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for that renewal is always a bit a nerve racking, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how popular the show is, but did you

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<v Speaker 1>still have a little bit of worry or fear about

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<v Speaker 1>getting renewed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of went through like seven stages of

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<v Speaker 3>grief about it. I was like thinking, it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure gonna happen, and then it took so long

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't really sure what was going on. And then

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<v Speaker 3>there's all these like crazy articles coming out saying it

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<v Speaker 3>might switch to Amazon, which there was like that can't

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<v Speaker 3>be true. And then it you know, then we got

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<v Speaker 3>the good news and time if I can feel I

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<v Speaker 3>can finally breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well well deserved. I mean, this show I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, but it broke all sorts of Netflix records.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday is truly, in my opinion, one of the freshest

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<v Speaker 1>shows of all of twenty twenty two. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was done so beautifully. It also had a great record.

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<v Speaker 1>The show twice broke the record for the most hours

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<v Speaker 1>viewed in a single week by an English language TV series.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to know, where were you in your life

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<v Speaker 1>personally and professionally when the opportunity for this amazing role

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<v Speaker 1>came up for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Why had come off another show that was like a

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<v Speaker 3>dream come true to be on It was your Honor

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<v Speaker 3>on Showtime and it was so much fun. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be a limited series and my character

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<v Speaker 3>dies in the last episode, and so I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like what a great ending. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>got renewed for a second season because it did so well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, oh, well, I don't get to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of that, and so I was really bummed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it kind of all worked out for the

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<v Speaker 3>best because if I had still been doing that show,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't have done Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like it came on along and it just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a great, great time for me. That was like

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<v Speaker 3>so much fun getting that call.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got the call, then what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Then I started can I you know, getting to work

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<v Speaker 3>on it because the audition process is long. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like I think the first tape it was February and

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<v Speaker 3>then I didn't find out I got the role until July,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we were going to go to Romania to

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<v Speaker 3>shoot in September, and so then I just started, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>getting the scripts and like breaking everything down and actually

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out this character. I like finally got

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<v Speaker 3>the official word that I was the bad guy, because

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<v Speaker 3>during the audition process they didn't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>officially tell anyone what the real deal was with Tyler.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I told you the last time we spoke.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like they gave me the clue like he

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<v Speaker 3>has a dark secret, and I was like, is it

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the dark secret?

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<v Speaker 2>And they wouldn't like officially tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>But then after booking it, I got on the phone

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<v Speaker 3>with Alan Miles are like amazing writers, and they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of broke down the whole history of Tyler and how

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<v Speaker 3>the whole first season was going to play out for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you hoping that you were the character with the

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<v Speaker 1>dark secret? Did you want to sink your teeth into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's just.

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<v Speaker 3>For me. That fel like the most exciting element to

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<v Speaker 3>what could possibly be a part of this character.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you prepare for something like that? You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of have this juckle Hyde character. You play the

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<v Speaker 1>good guy and you play the bad guy. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>double the work? Double the prep, how do you get

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<v Speaker 1>into that bad guy frame of mind? What did you

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<v Speaker 1>do to really nail this character? Because you did it flawlessly.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks. When I actually got the original like Jecko and

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<v Speaker 3>Hyde novel, read through that and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Used a lot of that for inspiration.

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<v Speaker 3>That book is funny though as it like holds up

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<v Speaker 3>as a horror story in today's because I, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Horace like comes so far and so intense nowadays, and

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<v Speaker 3>that leading that book is like a whole chapter would

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<v Speaker 3>be like and he received a mysterious letter and that

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<v Speaker 3>would be like the big scare of the chapter. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>something I took from that was the more that he

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<v Speaker 3>turns into mister Hyde and that the like lines between

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<v Speaker 3>them get blurred and like Hide kind of takes over

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<v Speaker 3>for him. So we kind of talked about that the

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<v Speaker 3>same for Tyler, Like the more he's transition into the

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<v Speaker 3>Hide and the more kills he does, the more that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of takes over, and like, you know, the real

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler is kind of pretty much gone by the into

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<v Speaker 3>the first season. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the show ended on that total transformation for your character,

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<v Speaker 1>which was so satisfying as a viewer to see you

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<v Speaker 1>had the scene I was in an episode seven or

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<v Speaker 1>eight where you were in the police station or the court,

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<v Speaker 1>the police station, right, and you just tell me about

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<v Speaker 1>that scene. What was it like filming that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the police station scene. That was kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>the real you reveal for me because she has the

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<v Speaker 3>vision at end of episode seven, but they've kind of

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<v Speaker 3>spent the whole season reminding people that her visions may

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<v Speaker 3>not be able to be trusted. And then I start

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<v Speaker 3>off episode eight, I'm still playing against it, saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>tied up in chains, like how could you do this

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<v Speaker 3>to me? And then I've never been more nervous or

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<v Speaker 3>excited or prepared more for a scene than that police

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<v Speaker 3>station scene because I was like the villain monologue that

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<v Speaker 3>you hope to have and it ends with me talking

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<v Speaker 3>about killing people, saying it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. How much work would you say you put into

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<v Speaker 1>a scene like that before you film it? How many

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<v Speaker 1>times do you run in and practice it? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>consume you until you actually do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? We were waiting on that script for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>and I knew the tyler was aware that he was

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<v Speaker 3>the bad guy, and like was the hide like wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like a secret to him? But I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 3>extent and you know, just even you know, logistically the

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<v Speaker 3>dialogue of how he did it or revealed it now.

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<v Speaker 3>But once I got it, you know, I immediately started

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<v Speaker 3>breaking it down and also just going back throughout the

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<v Speaker 3>season and trying to make sure everything I'd done is

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<v Speaker 3>adding up and making sense now that I had all

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<v Speaker 3>eight scripts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what's amazing about how you play this role.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't kind of let on throughout the show that

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<v Speaker 1>you could be the bad guy everyone. You're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>suspecting as you're watching, like, oh, are they the Hide?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they the Hider? Are they the Hide? So you

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<v Speaker 1>have these feelings, Oh, it could be anyone, but you

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<v Speaker 1>were so not the obvious choice for me. Maybe thought

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<v Speaker 1>that early on, but then I'm like, no, it's not him.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was all deliberate.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you didn't want to make it obvious, and I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like I didn't have to, you know, leave any

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<v Speaker 3>like hints for people because it was so well crafted.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in the story and every time, if you like,

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<v Speaker 3>go back and watch that Wednesday sees the Hide and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like he's followed her or something. It's Tyler knows

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<v Speaker 3>where Wednesday's going. To be and you know, people even

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<v Speaker 3>put it together on TikTok that when she has the

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<v Speaker 3>vision of Eugene getting attacked to the dance, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>split second where she bumps into me and that's why

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<v Speaker 3>she has the vision, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot you know that Tim designed from above that we

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<v Speaker 3>had to do over and over again trying to like

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<v Speaker 3>make sure it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there but not too obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>So well done. And you and Jenna Ortiga in this

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<v Speaker 1>show have such a great chemisty and it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>you've known each other forever. Like that's just how the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship unravels on screen, and that's how working together really

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<v Speaker 1>comes off. As how was it forming that bond with

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<v Speaker 1>Jenna and starting the character work together? What did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys do to get to that place?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, we just kind of became friends in real life

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<v Speaker 3>and just spent a lot of time together on set

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean most of my scenes are just the

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<v Speaker 3>two of us, which was so lucky for me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's phenomenal as this character.

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<v Speaker 3>I reached out to her after I was cast and

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<v Speaker 3>we met up for coffee here in La before we

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<v Speaker 3>went over, just to like, you know, before we like

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<v Speaker 3>jump into this giant show and make sure we like

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<v Speaker 3>met in person, and I don't know, being over in

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<v Speaker 3>Romania as a cast in general, we all kind of

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<v Speaker 3>bonded really quickly because we were all away from home,

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<v Speaker 3>all the way from our families and friends, so the

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<v Speaker 3>only people we had to hang out with, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>was each other. You know, Jenna was on set though

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<v Speaker 3>almost twenty four to seven because you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>show and she's almost in every single frame of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be honestly, I mean, she's just so easy

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<v Speaker 3>to work with because she's phenomenal and she gives you

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<v Speaker 3>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>As an actor to like bounce off of.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a scene that you shot together that was

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult and you just really wanted to master and

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<v Speaker 1>just make sure it came off perfectly. Did you two

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<v Speaker 1>work really extra hard at a particular scene.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the episode A had a few of those,

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<v Speaker 3>with like the police station thing, and she has the

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<v Speaker 3>scene right before that with you know, the sheriff and

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<v Speaker 3>the principle. I think it's always interesting to watch her navigate,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how Wednesday reacts in these like high stress

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<v Speaker 3>moments because she doesn't respond the same way other people would.

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<v Speaker 3>And then earlier than that. I think this legally blonde

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<v Speaker 3>scene and when we're like having the date and then

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<v Speaker 3>like just trying to like build a romantic relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday Adams, like I would kind of be like, okay, are.

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<v Speaker 2>We selling this enough?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, some people, like I saw online,

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<v Speaker 3>were making fun of a moment in episode four when

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<v Speaker 3>Tyler says, you know, he keep giving me these signals,

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone's like, what signals? She hasn't giving you anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I was able to realize, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of gaslighting her the whole time anyway, and like

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<v Speaker 3>tricking her into having feelings and making her feel like

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<v Speaker 3>she can trust him, and they have this bond of

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<v Speaker 3>not fitting in with the other never more kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was kind of like my way in on

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<v Speaker 2>some of those scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's so funny. People pick out the littlest

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<v Speaker 1>things and seeing oh yeah, well, does that surprise you

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<v Speaker 1>when you see things on TikTok and social media and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait, that they're interpreting it one way, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be meant in another way.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, And I mean there's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I like I had to like repost a few like

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<v Speaker 3>I did like a series of like pre PoTA memes

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<v Speaker 3>and tiktoks on my Instagram the people in mad just

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<v Speaker 3>because people the fans are like so funny and I

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<v Speaker 3>just like, I mean, I love seeing it, so I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to share it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I love seeing all the fan edits and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that goes around on social media. It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>The community that has come together through a show like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is incredible. It makes a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>feel connected through just being a fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the movie was before your time obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>did you watch that growing up or did you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have to go back and watch it for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time.

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<v Speaker 3>I had seen it growing up, but then I did

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<v Speaker 3>go rewatch the two nineties movies with Christina Ricci in

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<v Speaker 3>it over again, not really.

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<v Speaker 2>For like character research, more just for like, I was

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<v Speaker 2>excited about the job.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was cool. It was like and I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of inspiration, you know, obviously with the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thanksgiving play that they do in the Adams Chanley

0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Values movie, and then you know, there's so much thanksgiving

0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.400
<v Speaker 3>stuff in Pilgrim World in ours and people kept giving

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<v Speaker 3>a shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Like why is the show not coming out on Halloween?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, just wait, I swear it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Once it comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it did. I mean it's I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>timing of it all was perfect. What would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see in a season two? I know the writers

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<v Speaker 1>are brilliant and they're going to take the reins, But

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a magic ball and you were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I want putting it out in the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>I want the first scene to just be Tyler having

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<v Speaker 3>escaped that van post like killing everyone that band covered

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<v Speaker 3>in blood, and I'm going to like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to start the season off, like I think Tyler's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be totally kind of unhinged because he's in the

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<v Speaker 3>darkest place he's ever been in. And also he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have you know, risin Ricci's character pulling the strings anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>and so he doesn't have a master, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna, you know, hopefully be a little lost. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I wouldn't explore like does he get another

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<v Speaker 3>hide master or what is it like when he's on

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<v Speaker 3>his own? And then I mean, I hope for me

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<v Speaker 3>that like the big art for my character is like

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<v Speaker 3>just the like fight between the real Tyler and the

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<v Speaker 3>Hide and like which side is gonna kind of take

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<v Speaker 3>over at any point.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think there's redemption for Tyler? Could he

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<v Speaker 1>become a straight out good guy?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Maybe if he's never more people actually

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<v Speaker 3>let Hides into the school.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not fair they won't teach him how.

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<v Speaker 3>To control it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, fair enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you redeem someone who's like murdered seven people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. I'm not quite sure. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go with no, but very curious to see to

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<v Speaker 1>see how your storyline unfolds. It's definitely to me one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most interesting storylines on the show, really because

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<v Speaker 1>of that dichotomy, right of going back and forth from

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<v Speaker 1>the good guy to the transforming to the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>When you got that role and you've set out on

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<v Speaker 1>this adventure you filmed in Romania, you went out for

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<v Speaker 1>seven months, you were kind of detached from reality. You

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<v Speaker 1>came back home, you know, you were waiting for this

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<v Speaker 1>baby to be put into the world. Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea that this was going to blow up in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it did.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all, Like I was telling someone recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I got back home, I kind of like disassociated

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<v Speaker 3>from it because they spent so long over there, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I don't know, it's like back home. And then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, I wasn't seeing the same people

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<v Speaker 3>every day, and I wasn't seeing any of the same

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<v Speaker 3>locations because it was so our way, and it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of felt like it hadn't happened in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, and then you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>got home, and then there was like seven months of

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<v Speaker 3>us waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Until the show came out after we had wrapped. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really strange.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I knew that it would be like a

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<v Speaker 3>thing and that it would like do well. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying since we started shooting, like I'll be saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I worked with din Ortego when I knew

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<v Speaker 3>she was going to just be an absolute megastar because

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<v Speaker 3>she's so great in it. But no, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think anyone could have predicted the like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>way that it did blow up. You'd be like an

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<v Speaker 3>insane person to be like, yeah, I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be more popular than the stranger things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like, how do you go about.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that, Yeah, well, that's one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>love about you. I think you know well, I know

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<v Speaker 1>when we met up in New York for a coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>I walked away from that being like, wow, like Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>is so grounded and with all all of the success

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that came your way with the show seemingly fast, we'll say, right,

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.119
<v Speaker 1>because it got set into the world and it just

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<v Speaker 1>everyone exploded from the show and in the best way possible.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem like you've let that success affect you

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<v Speaker 1>in a negative way. It doesn't seem like it's gone

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<v Speaker 1>to your head or you're buying into it in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that you've lost who Hunter is as a human being.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you not let this success that people dream

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<v Speaker 1>of and that comes really fast and really hard at

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<v Speaker 1>you not change who you are? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? I don't know, I mean, like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you define? Like why aren't you an asshole?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the question I want to know. Why aren't you

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<v Speaker 1>an asshole?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I mean I think I like wanted

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<v Speaker 3>it for you know, just not the like whatever side

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<v Speaker 3>of it, but just like the being able to work as.

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<v Speaker 2>An actor for so long because I moved out.

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<v Speaker 3>To a like ten years ago, and I did extra

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<v Speaker 3>work for five years and was like so kind of

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<v Speaker 3>close to the thing I wanted to do, but like

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<v Speaker 3>also feeling so far away from it that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm like just very aware of how lucky

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<v Speaker 3>I am to be getting to do it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there's like hard work and you got to be good

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, but there's such an incredible amount of

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<v Speaker 3>luck that goes into it. And you know, I have

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<v Speaker 3>so many friends that are actors, and I know how

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<v Speaker 3>talented they are, and like, but I've seen that they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't gotten, you know, their big break or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I just, you know, I'm trying to always remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that. And another thing that I just

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<v Speaker 1>love and it excites me about people like you who

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<v Speaker 1>have this newfound fast, you know, success and fast in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense of a show coming out and this happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've worked your whole life towards this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also love that you are a proud, out gay

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<v Speaker 1>man and you play a leading man, a romantic love

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<v Speaker 1>interest to Jenna's character to Wednesday in the show. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>you are somebody who is posting on social media your

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<v Speaker 1>wedding photos and you know your partner. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a beautiful thing when I see people like

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<v Speaker 1>you who are in these roles on such a mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>show putting that out there. So I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear a bit about your coming out journey and what

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<v Speaker 1>that was like for you.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of came out when I was like eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and once I got to LA it was like I

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<v Speaker 3>remember like being at like some house party and just

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<v Speaker 3>talking to someone and this guy was like, oh, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're gay, right, And I was like, froze and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like yes, and he's like, okay, cool, and just

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<v Speaker 3>I kept going.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh wait, it's not like a thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I grew up in Arkansas, and you know I

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned earlier, I got like very involved in like my

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<v Speaker 3>church youth group when I was in high school, and

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<v Speaker 3>so that whole process was just kind of a nightmare

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<v Speaker 3>for me personally. So then I'd been like out for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my entire adult life, and then professionally, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never really thought too much about it until I was

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<v Speaker 3>doing the testing process for Your Honor and the show

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<v Speaker 3>on Showtime, and I remember like, as we were gearing

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<v Speaker 3>up for the network test, which is like the final

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<v Speaker 3>audition stage for people that don't know and you have

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<v Speaker 3>to go in, and like I was going to read

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<v Speaker 3>with Brian and all of the executives from CBS and

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<v Speaker 3>Showtime We're going to be there, and the producers and writers.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And so as we were gearing up for that, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember like coming through my social media and archiving stuff

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<v Speaker 3>with that had me and Fielder in it together, or

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<v Speaker 3>like anything that I had like was like obvious I

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<v Speaker 3>was gay.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on my page or even accounts I was following, because.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Oh, I just don't want there to

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<v Speaker 3>be any element of them being like, why does Adam's

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<v Speaker 3>not gay? So can Hunter really do that? Because I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I was a total nobody going up for this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, role opposite Brian Cranston. There's so many things

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 3>already against me. And then it was kind of awful

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<v Speaker 3>once I got it, because once I got to set,

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<v Speaker 3>I like had to come out again.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like people didn't know, oh, and that was

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 2>just felt so uncomfortable to be like, I don't know,

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>doing that for like the first time in like seven

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<v Speaker 2>eight years and making it for it to like feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that again and too like, you know, everyone on

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<v Speaker 2>that show is credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember I was talking to Peter Moffatt about

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<v Speaker 3>all this, who was the show runner of the show,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was just like gutted and like heartbroken to

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<v Speaker 3>like learned that I had done that, and he was like,

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, I wouldn't have mattered, and you know, maybe

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't have, but I just like at the time

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know. But then after I went through that experience,

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 3>and then I remember, like my friend Grace came to

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.959
<v Speaker 3>visit me and Brian and other people were like, oh, so,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 3>is there something going on between you guys. I was like,

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 3>oh god, I was like, because she came to visit before,

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, my boyfriend had come to visit, like, uh so,

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of from that point on, I just decided

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<v Speaker 3>that to me, it wasn't worth it to hide it

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 3>or you know, because that just was such a weird experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I'm sure I'll lose out on

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<v Speaker 3>some opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just not worth it to you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>be yourself in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm hopeful things are changing. They have changed already,

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<v Speaker 1>but they need to continue to change and I'm hopeful

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<v Speaker 1>they will and that being who you truly are in

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<v Speaker 1>any industry hopefully won't affect people in a negative way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I commend you because I know it's

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>not always easy and our business. Did you ever feel

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that being out would affect your career and did

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<v Speaker 1>you have any moments where it did? Would you say, Yeah.

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, I have had moments of being afraid and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know me and it was thinning on your honor

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Lily who played you know, we were a couple on

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<v Speaker 3>the show, and she's also queer, and so you know,

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 3>we would have a lot of conversations about it and

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<v Speaker 3>just like you know, wondering if you know, maybe not

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 3>hide it, but should we just like not be so

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 3>open about it, just like you know, should Instagram just

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 3>be professional stuff for I don't know. So there was

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>definitely a fear to it, and then I'm sure it

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 3>has affected stuff, but that's like kind of the I

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 3>would never hear about that, you know, I would never

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<v Speaker 3>know which jobs I lost out on because of it,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think people are smart enough to not say

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 3>this is the reason why. But yeah, I don't don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that it's worth it for you to live

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>as your authentic self in an industry while pursuing your

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>dreams than it is to maybe achieve a dream that

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you have at the cost of being who you really are.

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, because I you know, I told you

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 3>that story. I basically did that and it felt horrible.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it's such a great example for so

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 1>many people who are listening today and for our youth

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>right who were wondering, oh, should I be coming out

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>or is that going to affect me negatively? I think

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>when we see people like you, I think you think, oh, man, well,

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>if Hunter's doing it. Yeah, it might not always be easy,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>but I can have a career and a dream job

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that I want one day, you know. Yeah.

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's so many other like actors that did

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 3>it before me in a much harder time that made

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 3>it possible. So so grateful for those actors like I mean,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 3>like Neil Patrick. Harris always stands out in my head

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 3>because you know, he played like, you know, a womanizer

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>and was also this out proud gay man.

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very possible to be who you are and work.

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think that the more we have stories like

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>yours and see people like you the more that we're

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>moving in the right direction, it's about damn time. As

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Lizo says, right.

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 3>What's frustrating is like, you know, a street man plays

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.200
<v Speaker 3>a gay part and people were almost like, how did

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 3>he do it? Let's give him an award, and then

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 3>like when it's vice versa, it's like, one, if we

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 3>let you do it, and two you're like, well, you're

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 3>expected to be able to do it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on that. I know a lot

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of people have very different opinions. What do you think

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>about the idea of you know, straightenman being cast to

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>play queer I.

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Think, like at a foundational level, like it is acting,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and I don't want it to get to a point

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 3>where you can only play exactly what you are in

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 3>real life. That's boring and that's not what it's supposed

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to be. And people have said this in a much

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 3>more eloquent way than I'll be able to say it.

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 3>But I think it just comes down to like opportunities,

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I think we've like really seen it

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<v Speaker 3>come to a better place now, especially for like trans roles.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>I think you know nowadays you'd be insane to take

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 3>a trans role where that's something that could have happened, like,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, not even ten years ago, but it was

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 3>because you know, transactors were not getting those opportunities to

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>you can, tell their own stories and you know definitely

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 3>not to you know, tell us his story. And I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't think that straight actors like shouldn't

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 3>be able to play a game, but I'd like it to.

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Go the other way more too.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, you know, people want also authentic stories,

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, more of them where queer actors are telling

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 3>queer stories. So I don't know, is that a cop

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 3>out answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I think what you're saying is you just

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>want a seat at the table. Like, you know, straight

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>actors get to play all these different roles. You just

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>want queer people to have a seat at the table

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>as well. I think it's fare, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I'm just going to continue going

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 3>out trying to steal all the other straight roles I can.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's go, I'm ready for you in like a Marvel

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>superhero movie. Come on, let's go.

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do it. I'm down.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I love that. So Hunter, I'm very interested in the

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>idea and the conversation around mental health. I think it's

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>super important and I'm glad we're finally talking more about

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it as a society. You know, on a personal level,

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I lost a friend early last year to a mental

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:00.239
<v Speaker 1>health struggle, and I just I'm making an effort to

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>bring this topic up more in my conversations with people,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>because you just never know who's listening and who can

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>feel seen or helped by a conversation like this, and

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>with somebody like you who's on such a public platform.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And yes, you receive so much praise and so many

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>people just adore you and now follow you obviously through

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>your growing social media channels. But with that obviously comes

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>trolls and the keyboard warriors who hide behind and say

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>awful things to all of us. We've all received it

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and gotten it. How do you, on a personal level

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>deal with those comments when they come up? Talk to

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>me about your relationship with kind of tuning out the negative.

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:43.479
<v Speaker 3>First of all, I'm so sorry about your friend. It

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 3>does affect me. It's really horrible. Some of the things

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>like people will say and like can so casually just

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, come on to another humans page and throw

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 3>out there is like baffling to me. But I also

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>have to remember, like it's like people like yes for

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 3>better or worse. You know, they wouldn't say that stuff

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 3>to you in real life or most of the time.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I think the last time we talked to I like

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 3>told you I had to like limit comments on my

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Instagram because it was affecting me because I couldn't understand why,

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, I was posting about the show, and you know,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 3>at the time, like you know, those posts would get

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>like two thousand comments, but then my wedding photos from

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 3>six months ago had eight thousand comments, and it was

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 3>people like fighting in the comments and and a lot

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 3>of like support, but then just so much like just horrible,

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 3>like ugly hatred, and like at first I would like

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>see stuff pop up and i'd like just try to

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 3>like delete a comment when I like happened to see

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>it pop up, and like the stream of notifications.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>But then I went and like actually.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Clicked on it and was like scrolling through and there's

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 3>just so much awful stuff in there that couldn't keep

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 3>up with, that couldn't like I didn't want to put

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>that much energy into it, and I couldn't keep up

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>if I did want to, And so I you know,

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I limited it to just at least people who follow me,

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, Okay, you have to at least

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 3>want to be here. And I still get some comments

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>like that that people are taking that extra step to

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 3>follow me, and then I'm sure commisling awful and then

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>unfollow me. But yeah, I don't know. I like, you know,

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 3>I personally tried to, you know, set that boundary, but

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 3>it does affect you.

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't I think it would be hard not to.

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I always say the real world matters, right, because we

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>forget sometimes especially the fandom is amazing and they get

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>so passionate about the projects like Wednesday and and you know,

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever shows or movies they watch. But sometimes you have

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to remind everybody like you're playing a character. It's not

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.399
<v Speaker 1>who you are and you're not Tyler. Have you found

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.919
<v Speaker 1>that distinction one that you've had to kind of make

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>more and more as the popularity of the show goes on.

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, the actual like fans of the show are

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 3>amazing and like, I think get that, and they engage

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 3>with all of us in what seems to me like

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:33.479
<v Speaker 3>a really fun way, and especially like the younger fans

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>of the show, it's so cool for me to see

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 3>like there's this whole like online campaign called like wind

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Clear because they want Wednesday to be with her roommate

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 3>in Instintclair and so that's like their ship name. But

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 3>like for me, I was like, oh my god, this

0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 3>is like the great irony of my life that I'm

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of getting, you know, in a fun way, trolled

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 3>for being in the way of a gay relationship.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing.

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 3>There's like the is just so cool and fun and

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I love the thin you know, these like you know teenagers.

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Are like no more gay.

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm telling you. It's something I've noticed with the

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>show as well. I've interviewed a lot of people from

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>any different shows, and the fandom around Wednesday seems incredible.

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Wait a minut I've got to ask you now, So,

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>aside from Tyler being a little a little bit crazy,

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>aside from that, who would you be interested in seeing

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>your character get in a relationship with on the show? Anyone,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 1>any any demoned werewolf, man, woman, anything in between, whatever.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Who would Tyler ship? Who would you like to see?

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, I don't know. I mean I really want

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 3>to explore, like what is real between Wednesday and Tyler,

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>because you know on her end, she really fully you know,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>fell for it and for him, and I think that

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 3>there was an initial, like genuine attraction between them because

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>when they first meet, he doesn't know who she is,

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, I think, interested in her. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I think that there's like this like you know, sexual

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<v Speaker 3>kind of compatibility or like you know, flirtiness, the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that they like can kind of like go at each

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<v Speaker 3>other at the like same level with like their digs,

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<v Speaker 3>and also like yeah, just the way they like interact

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<v Speaker 3>in that way. I think like they both like rise

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<v Speaker 3>to the challenge of each other, which is fun. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I guess I haven't spent too much time

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about like who else in the show Tyler could

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<v Speaker 3>end up with. Like, to me, that's that's pretty far

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<v Speaker 3>from what I was thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I gave you something to think about, now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can come back to me with that. What is

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<v Speaker 1>something you can and tell me about that you're working

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<v Speaker 1>on just for yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think for me, it's like this probably goes

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<v Speaker 3>back to like social media stuff too, But like I

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<v Speaker 3>wish I didn't spend so much time and energy thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about like like looks and like like my body and

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<v Speaker 3>like just like my relationship to like, you know, food

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. I think it's almost impossible to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like be in this industry in that not to like

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<v Speaker 3>be in your head all the time. And I know

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<v Speaker 3>that's like a thing for you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people not in the actors or in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>camera in any since. So I think it's cool that

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<v Speaker 3>people are like talking about that more now, but I

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<v Speaker 3>still haven't found a way for me yet to get

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<v Speaker 3>to where I want to be with like how I

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<v Speaker 3>feel about all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're trying to find a better or a more

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<v Speaker 1>positive way to kind of, you know, deal with how

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<v Speaker 1>you view your body, is what you're saying. Definitely, do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that you put a lot of the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself or do you feel like through your work

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that's added pressure as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Both, there's definitely an added pressure of like.

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<v Speaker 3>It being like stuff like you know, being recorded or

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<v Speaker 3>being photographed or being on camera.

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<v Speaker 2>But then like if I'm actually taking a step.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, like the only criticism I'm really hearing is from

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<v Speaker 3>inside my own head, yeah, which is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So when you hear that voice, which we all have,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you kind of quiet it and carry on

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that it doesn't cripple you and you

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<v Speaker 1>know cause you to just have a terrible rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your day or week.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's kind of what I'm trying to work

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<v Speaker 3>on and figure out, is how to quiet it more.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen a lot of stuff. Anyone just a felt

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<v Speaker 3>like being like grateful for your body and like I

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<v Speaker 3>try to like think about you know, even like working

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<v Speaker 3>out as like something like more about like what your

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<v Speaker 3>body like can do and being grateful for that. Like.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing that specifically helped me is actually I

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<v Speaker 2>lost my dad a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He passed away because he had als and he was

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<v Speaker 3>like a tennis player and like he played professionally and

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<v Speaker 3>then like he taught tennis all of my like childhood

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<v Speaker 3>growing up, and so then to see him like lose

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<v Speaker 3>control of his body and like you know, fully be

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 3>there in his mind, but then his body is like

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<v Speaker 3>totally fail him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was like a big kind of awakening moment

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Oh, Alice is about so much more

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<v Speaker 3>than just you know, how I look in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Wow, that's that's powerful. I'm sure watching that could

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<v Speaker 1>not have been easy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was, Uh, it was really difficult, especially just

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<v Speaker 3>for to be him and like you know, all my

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>memories of him or him being so active in running

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<v Speaker 3>around and yeah, that was the hardest thing I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>had to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for sharing that, and also for talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the layer that you would take off and work on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we don't talk enough about in our

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<v Speaker 1>society the struggles that nailes have with body image. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's very real and I've discussed this with many people before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that just in a way that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of women have talked to me about feeling the

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<v Speaker 1>pressures of being super thin or having the curves or

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. I think there is also a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure on men to look a certain way sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we need to as a society work

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<v Speaker 1>on not commenting on people's bodies. Yeah, like whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>athletic or not athletic, or whatever the case may be. Like,

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>let's just let people be. And if you're close to

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.839
<v Speaker 1>a friend, of course that's different. But in general, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not comfortable when people talk about that with me.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>It's just weird. I don't want the compliment. I just

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 1>rather you talk to me and let's talk about other things, right,

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's awkward. Yeah, And I feel like you

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 1>feel the same way, and I think a lot of

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>people feel that way, like let's just focus on things

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>that matter. So I appreciate that you're putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people listening today also have

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the same struggle, no matter who they are. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that this seemingly together and perfect guy, that many

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>people will look at you and think because of your success, right,

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>which can be deceiving, but they think success means you're

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>okay and you're perfect and everything's great, right, right, you

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>also have struggles that everybody else has, So thank you

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>for that. I hope you enjoyed your experience.

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I always enjoyed talking to you. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so much fun. Hunter. I am such a

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>fan of you personally and professionally, and I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see where season two takes you with everything, and I'm

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 1>glad we could deep dive into the show and then

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some other fun things. So I have a

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 1>feeling i'll be chatting with you again when season two

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>finally comes out. Yeah, that'd be great, all right, we'll

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>be well, and thank you so much, and I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 1>And wait, you didn't give me the finger like your childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>Picture, did, Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I need one at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I need one. There we go. Yes, Yes, I've never

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>said this before. Is hosted by me, Tommy Dederio. This

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<v Speaker 1>podcast is produced and edited by Mike Coscarelli, and executive

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