1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario. This is the first episode of this show, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: and I am so excited you were tuning in. So 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: during the pandemic, it was March twenty twenty, the world 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: shut down and my job stopped. I wasn't going on 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: television and doing my feel good segments and my celebrity interviews. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: So I had to pivot and I was sitting home 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: wondering what was I going to do. Was I going 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: to contribute during this scary time, or was I going 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: to do something to help people feel connected and together 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: and close to the people that they admired. And that's 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: what I did. So I launched an Instagram live show. 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: It was called Let's Stay Together, where I brought on 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: today's hottest actors from films and TV shows and we 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: dove deep into the projects that fans loved, and then 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: we went there on some other more human connection type 17 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: of questions. It was a five day a week show 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: for quite some time, and then as the world began reopening, 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: we scaled it back. But it was something that I 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: had a very big aha moment doing, and that was 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: people don't just want to hear about the highs in 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: somebody's life, right, they want to hear about the lows. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: They want to learn about what they went through and 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: what they took away from that low. I wanted to 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: do the show because I think it's so important to 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: have conversations that go deep, and when I'm on the 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: red carpet, I don't get the chance to do that. 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: And I see the people I'm interviewing. They're craving it. 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: They want to go there, right, We're just about to 30 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: get there, and then we run out of time. So 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: this is the space to have the time to go there, 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: because I think that's where we can all connect to 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: one another. You see the shine, you see the glitz, 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: you see the glamour. It's smoking mirrors. We're all stripped down. 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: I want to show people that we all have a 36 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: lot more in common than we don't. This is a 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: show where people who pretend to be someone else for 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: a living have the chance to be real. Today's guest 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: is no big deal. One of the most talked about 40 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: actors in the world right now. Hunter Duhan grew up 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: in Fort Smith, Atlanta, where he had big dreams of 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: making it in Hollywood and I think it's safe to 43 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: say he did just that. You may know him from 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: his co starring role as Brian Cranston's son in Your 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Honor on Showtime, or of course, as Tyler in Wednesday 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: on Netflix, starring in one of the most popular shows 47 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: in the history of Netflix ever, where he plays Jeno 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Ortego's love interest turned billing and on a personal note, 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: I am so psyched that season two has been announced, 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: because well, we all need more of his brilliant character 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: work playing the evil monster known as the Hide. I 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did. 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Now let's see if today we can get Hunter to 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: say something that he has never said before. Okay, I've 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: got to ask you first before we dive in. I 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: was on your Instagram doing a little scrolling, and I 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: noticed there was a picture of you as a kid 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: giving the middle finger. A little scared that that might 59 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: happen to me today if you don't like the interview, 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: but you gotta give me the backstory on that. 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a warning to everyone I do an interview. 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: With, so behave No. That's I think the credit or 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: blame for that goes to my mom. 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: For encouraging me to take that picture. 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: In taking it, she's the best and has a very 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: immature sense of humor. 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: So were you a spicy kid? Was that your default? 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: I think I was like little, But then when I 69 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: was in like high school, like not at all, I 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: was like kind of lame. I was just running around 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: the theater department and got very involved in my like 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: youth group church. I was like not going to party 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: like drinking parties as me like oh called them. 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: So you were a good boy, mm hmm, okay, all right, 75 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: but obviously that phase maybe didn't last through your work 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: because you kind of play a bad boy on Wednesday, right. 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, spoiler alert, but Eve had two months come on, people, 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: catch up. Yeah. It was so fun kind of got 79 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: to play both. That was kind of like the nice 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: guy for seven episodes and then you know, we wanted 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: that like big shift to happen on the last one, 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: and it was so much fun. 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: Getting to play the villain. And I'm so excited. 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: I think last time we talked, I couldn't say anything 85 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: because I didn't know. But we are officially coming back 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: for a second season, so I get to like start 87 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: off the second season in that place, which is gonna 88 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: be so much fun. 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Wow, that's huge, congratulations to you. I know that waiting 90 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: for that renewal is always a bit a nerve racking, right, Like, 91 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: you know how popular the show is, but did you 92 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: still have a little bit of worry or fear about 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: getting renewed. 94 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of went through like seven stages of 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: grief about it. I was like thinking, it was like, 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: for sure gonna happen, and then it took so long 97 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: we weren't really sure what was going on. And then 98 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: there's all these like crazy articles coming out saying it 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: might switch to Amazon, which there was like that can't 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: be true. And then it you know, then we got 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: the good news and time if I can feel I 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: can finally breathe. 103 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Well well deserved. I mean, this show I don't have 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: to tell you, but it broke all sorts of Netflix records. 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Wednesday is truly, in my opinion, one of the freshest 106 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: shows of all of twenty twenty two. I think it 107 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: was done so beautifully. It also had a great record. 108 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: The show twice broke the record for the most hours 109 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: viewed in a single week by an English language TV series. 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know, where were you in your life 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: personally and professionally when the opportunity for this amazing role 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: came up for you. 113 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: Why had come off another show that was like a 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 3: dream come true to be on It was your Honor 115 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: on Showtime and it was so much fun. But it 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: was supposed to be a limited series and my character 117 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: dies in the last episode, and so I was like, okay, 118 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: you know, like what a great ending. And then it 119 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,559 Speaker 3: got renewed for a second season because it did so well. 120 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, well, I don't get to 121 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: be a part of that, and so I was really bummed. 122 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: And then it kind of all worked out for the 123 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: best because if I had still been doing that show, 124 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't have done Wednesday. 125 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it came on along and it just. 126 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: Like a great, great time for me. That was like 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: so much fun getting that call. 128 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: So you got the call, then what happened? 129 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Then I started can I you know, getting to work 130 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: on it because the audition process is long. It was 131 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: like I think the first tape it was February and 132 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: then I didn't find out I got the role until July, 133 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: and then we were going to go to Romania to 134 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: shoot in September, and so then I just started, you know, 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: getting the scripts and like breaking everything down and actually 136 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: trying to figure out this character. I like finally got 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: the official word that I was the bad guy, because 138 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: during the audition process they didn't want to, you know, 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: officially tell anyone what the real deal was with Tyler. 140 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: So I think I told you the last time we spoke. 141 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: It was like they gave me the clue like he 142 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: has a dark secret, and I was like, is it 143 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: you know, the dark secret? 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: And they wouldn't like officially tell me. 145 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: But then after booking it, I got on the phone 146 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: with Alan Miles are like amazing writers, and they kind 147 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: of broke down the whole history of Tyler and how 148 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 3: the whole first season was going to play out for me. 149 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Were you hoping that you were the character with the 150 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: dark secret? Did you want to sink your teeth into it? 151 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 152 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's just. 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: For me. That fel like the most exciting element to 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: what could possibly be a part of this character. 155 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: So how do you prepare for something like that? You 156 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of have this juckle Hyde character. You play the 157 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: good guy and you play the bad guy. Is it 158 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: double the work? Double the prep, how do you get 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: into that bad guy frame of mind? What did you 160 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: do to really nail this character? Because you did it flawlessly. 161 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: Thanks. When I actually got the original like Jecko and 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: Hyde novel, read through that and like. 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: Used a lot of that for inspiration. 164 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: That book is funny though as it like holds up 165 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: as a horror story in today's because I, you know, 166 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: Horace like comes so far and so intense nowadays, and 167 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: that leading that book is like a whole chapter would 168 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: be like and he received a mysterious letter and that 169 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: would be like the big scare of the chapter. But like, 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: something I took from that was the more that he 171 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: turns into mister Hyde and that the like lines between 172 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: them get blurred and like Hide kind of takes over 173 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: for him. So we kind of talked about that the 174 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: same for Tyler, Like the more he's transition into the 175 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: Hide and the more kills he does, the more that 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: kind of takes over, and like, you know, the real 177 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: Tyler is kind of pretty much gone by the into 178 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: the first season. Wow. 179 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the show ended on that total transformation for your character, 180 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: which was so satisfying as a viewer to see you 181 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: had the scene I was in an episode seven or 182 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: eight where you were in the police station or the court, 183 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: the police station, right, and you just tell me about 184 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: that scene. What was it like filming that? 185 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the police station scene. That was kind of like 186 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: the real you reveal for me because she has the 187 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: vision at end of episode seven, but they've kind of 188 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: spent the whole season reminding people that her visions may 189 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 3: not be able to be trusted. And then I start 190 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: off episode eight, I'm still playing against it, saying, you know, 191 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: tied up in chains, like how could you do this 192 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: to me? And then I've never been more nervous or 193 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: excited or prepared more for a scene than that police 194 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: station scene because I was like the villain monologue that 195 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: you hope to have and it ends with me talking 196 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: about killing people, saying it was delicious. 197 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: Wow. How much work would you say you put into 198 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: a scene like that before you film it? How many 199 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: times do you run in and practice it? Does it 200 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: consume you until you actually do it? 201 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? We were waiting on that script for a while, 202 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: and I knew the tyler was aware that he was 203 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: the bad guy, and like was the hide like wasn't 204 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: like a secret to him? But I didn't know what 205 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: extent and you know, just even you know, logistically the 206 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: dialogue of how he did it or revealed it now. 207 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: But once I got it, you know, I immediately started 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 3: breaking it down and also just going back throughout the 209 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: season and trying to make sure everything I'd done is 210 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: adding up and making sense now that I had all 211 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: eight scripts. 212 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's what's amazing about how you play this role. 213 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: You don't kind of let on throughout the show that 214 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: you could be the bad guy everyone. You're kind of 215 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: suspecting as you're watching, like, oh, are they the Hide? 216 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Are they the Hider? Are they the Hide? So you 217 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: have these feelings, Oh, it could be anyone, but you 218 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: were so not the obvious choice for me. Maybe thought 219 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: that early on, but then I'm like, no, it's not him. 220 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: So that was all deliberate. 221 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: Well, you didn't want to make it obvious, and I 222 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: felt like I didn't have to, you know, leave any 223 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: like hints for people because it was so well crafted. 224 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: Like in the story and every time, if you like, 225 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: go back and watch that Wednesday sees the Hide and 226 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: it's like he's followed her or something. It's Tyler knows 227 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: where Wednesday's going. To be and you know, people even 228 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: put it together on TikTok that when she has the 229 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: vision of Eugene getting attacked to the dance, there's a 230 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: split second where she bumps into me and that's why 231 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: she has the vision, you know. 232 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: And I was a. 233 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 3: Shot you know that Tim designed from above that we 234 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: had to do over and over again trying to like 235 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: make sure it. 236 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: Was there but not too obvious. 237 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: So well done. And you and Jenna Ortiga in this 238 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: show have such a great chemisty and it feels like 239 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: you've known each other forever. Like that's just how the 240 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: relationship unravels on screen, and that's how working together really 241 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: comes off. As how was it forming that bond with 242 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: Jenna and starting the character work together? What did you 243 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: guys do to get to that place? 244 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: Honestly, we just kind of became friends in real life 245 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: and just spent a lot of time together on set 246 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: because I mean most of my scenes are just the 247 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: two of us, which was so lucky for me. 248 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: She's phenomenal as this character. 249 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 3: I reached out to her after I was cast and 250 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: we met up for coffee here in La before we 251 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: went over, just to like, you know, before we like 252 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: jump into this giant show and make sure we like 253 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: met in person, and I don't know, being over in 254 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: Romania as a cast in general, we all kind of 255 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: bonded really quickly because we were all away from home, 256 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: all the way from our families and friends, so the 257 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: only people we had to hang out with, you know, 258 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: was each other. You know, Jenna was on set though 259 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: almost twenty four to seven because you look at the 260 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: show and she's almost in every single frame of it. 261 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: And to be honestly, I mean, she's just so easy 262 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: to work with because she's phenomenal and she gives you 263 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: so much. 264 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: As an actor to like bounce off of. 265 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: Was there a scene that you shot together that was 266 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: more difficult and you just really wanted to master and 267 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: just make sure it came off perfectly. Did you two 268 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: work really extra hard at a particular scene. 269 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: I think the episode A had a few of those, 270 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: with like the police station thing, and she has the 271 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: scene right before that with you know, the sheriff and 272 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: the principle. I think it's always interesting to watch her navigate, 273 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: you know, how Wednesday reacts in these like high stress 274 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: moments because she doesn't respond the same way other people would. 275 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: And then earlier than that. I think this legally blonde 276 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: scene and when we're like having the date and then 277 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: like just trying to like build a romantic relationship with 278 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: Wednesday Adams, like I would kind of be like, okay, are. 279 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: We selling this enough? 280 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: And then you know, some people, like I saw online, 281 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: were making fun of a moment in episode four when 282 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: Tyler says, you know, he keep giving me these signals, 283 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: and everyone's like, what signals? She hasn't giving you anything. 284 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: But then I was able to realize, you know, he's 285 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: kind of gaslighting her the whole time anyway, and like 286 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: tricking her into having feelings and making her feel like 287 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: she can trust him, and they have this bond of 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: not fitting in with the other never more kids. 289 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: So that was kind of like my way in on 290 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: some of those scenes. 291 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's so funny. People pick out the littlest 292 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: things and seeing oh yeah, well, does that surprise you 293 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: when you see things on TikTok and social media and 294 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: you're like, wait, that they're interpreting it one way, but 295 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be meant in another way. 296 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: Definitely, And I mean there's so funny. 297 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: I like I had to like repost a few like 298 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: I did like a series of like pre PoTA memes 299 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: and tiktoks on my Instagram the people in mad just 300 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: because people the fans are like so funny and I 301 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: just like, I mean, I love seeing it, so I 302 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: wanted to share it. 303 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love seeing all the fan edits and 304 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: everything that goes around on social media. It's really cool. 305 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: The community that has come together through a show like this, 306 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: I think is incredible. It makes a lot of people 307 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: feel connected through just being a fan of the show. 308 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: I know the movie was before your time obviously, but 309 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: did you watch that growing up or did you kind 310 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: of have to go back and watch it for the 311 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: first time. 312 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: I had seen it growing up, but then I did 313 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: go rewatch the two nineties movies with Christina Ricci in 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: it over again, not really. 315 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: For like character research, more just for like, I was 316 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: excited about the job. 317 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: But it was cool. It was like and I think 318 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: there's a lot of inspiration, you know, obviously with the 319 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: whole thanksgiving play that they do in the Adams Chanley 320 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: Values movie, and then you know, there's so much thanksgiving 321 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: stuff in Pilgrim World in ours and people kept giving 322 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: a shit. 323 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Like why is the show not coming out on Halloween? 324 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, just wait, I swear it makes sense. 325 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: Once it comes out. 326 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it did. I mean it's I thought the 327 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: timing of it all was perfect. What would you want 328 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: to see in a season two? I know the writers 329 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: are brilliant and they're going to take the reins, But 330 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: if you had a magic ball and you were like, Okay, 331 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: this is what I want putting it out in the universe, 332 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: what is it? 333 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: I want the first scene to just be Tyler having 334 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: escaped that van post like killing everyone that band covered 335 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: in blood, and I'm going to like, I don't want 336 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: to start the season off, like I think Tyler's going 337 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: to be totally kind of unhinged because he's in the 338 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: darkest place he's ever been in. And also he doesn't 339 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: have you know, risin Ricci's character pulling the strings anymore, 340 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: and so he doesn't have a master, so I think 341 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: he's gonna, you know, hopefully be a little lost. I 342 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: don't know. I wouldn't explore like does he get another 343 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: hide master or what is it like when he's on 344 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: his own? And then I mean, I hope for me 345 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: that like the big art for my character is like 346 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: just the like fight between the real Tyler and the 347 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: Hide and like which side is gonna kind of take 348 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: over at any point. 349 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: So do you think there's redemption for Tyler? Could he 350 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: become a straight out good guy? 351 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe if he's never more people actually 352 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: let Hides into the school. 353 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: It's not fair they won't teach him how. 354 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: To control it. 355 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough? 356 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: Can you redeem someone who's like murdered seven people. 357 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I'm not quite sure. Yeah, I'm 358 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: gonna go with no, but very curious to see to 359 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: see how your storyline unfolds. It's definitely to me one 360 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: of the most interesting storylines on the show, really because 361 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: of that dichotomy, right of going back and forth from 362 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: the good guy to the transforming to the bad guy. 363 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: When you got that role and you've set out on 364 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: this adventure you filmed in Romania, you went out for 365 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: seven months, you were kind of detached from reality. You 366 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: came back home, you know, you were waiting for this 367 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 1: baby to be put into the world. Did you have 368 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: any idea that this was going to blow up in 369 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: the way that it did. 370 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 2: No, not at all, Like I was telling someone recently. 371 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: Once I got back home, I kind of like disassociated 372 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: from it because they spent so long over there, and 373 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: then I don't know, it's like back home. And then 374 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I wasn't seeing the same people 375 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: every day, and I wasn't seeing any of the same 376 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: locations because it was so our way, and it kind 377 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: of felt like it hadn't happened in a weird way, 378 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, and then you know, it 379 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 3: got home, and then there was like seven months of 380 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: us waiting. 381 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: Until the show came out after we had wrapped. It 382 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: was really strange. 383 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: And then I knew that it would be like a 384 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: thing and that it would like do well. And I've 385 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 3: been saying since we started shooting, like I'll be saying, 386 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, I worked with din Ortego when I knew 387 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: she was going to just be an absolute megastar because 388 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 3: she's so great in it. But no, I mean, I 389 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: don't think anyone could have predicted the like kind of 390 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: way that it did blow up. You'd be like an 391 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: insane person to be like, yeah, I think this is 392 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: going to be more popular than the stranger things. 393 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: You know, Like, how do you go about. 394 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: Saying that, Yeah, well, that's one of the things I 395 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: love about you. I think you know well, I know 396 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: when we met up in New York for a coffee, 397 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: I walked away from that being like, wow, like Hunter 398 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: is so grounded and with all all of the success 399 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: that came your way with the show seemingly fast, we'll say, right, 400 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: because it got set into the world and it just 401 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: everyone exploded from the show and in the best way possible. 402 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like you've let that success affect you 403 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: in a negative way. It doesn't seem like it's gone 404 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: to your head or you're buying into it in a 405 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: way that you've lost who Hunter is as a human being. 406 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: How do you not let this success that people dream 407 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: of and that comes really fast and really hard at 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: you not change who you are? Oh? 409 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: Thank you? I don't know, I mean, like, how do 410 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: you define? Like why aren't you an asshole? 411 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: That's the question I want to know. Why aren't you 412 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: an asshole? 413 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I think I like wanted 414 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: it for you know, just not the like whatever side 415 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: of it, but just like the being able to work as. 416 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 2: An actor for so long because I moved out. 417 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: To a like ten years ago, and I did extra 418 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: work for five years and was like so kind of 419 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: close to the thing I wanted to do, but like 420 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: also feeling so far away from it that I don't know. 421 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 3: I think I'm like just very aware of how lucky 422 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: I am to be getting to do it. And yeah, 423 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: there's like hard work and you got to be good 424 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: to do it, but there's such an incredible amount of 425 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: luck that goes into it. And you know, I have 426 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: so many friends that are actors, and I know how 427 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: talented they are, and like, but I've seen that they 428 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: haven't gotten, you know, their big break or whatever, and 429 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: so I just, you know, I'm trying to always remember that. 430 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And another thing that I just 431 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: love and it excites me about people like you who 432 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: have this newfound fast, you know, success and fast in 433 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: the sense of a show coming out and this happening. 434 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: I know you've worked your whole life towards this, but 435 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: I also love that you are a proud, out gay 436 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: man and you play a leading man, a romantic love 437 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: interest to Jenna's character to Wednesday in the show. Yet 438 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: you are somebody who is posting on social media your 439 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: wedding photos and you know your partner. And I think 440 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: it's such a beautiful thing when I see people like 441 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: you who are in these roles on such a mainstream 442 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: show putting that out there. So I would love to 443 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: hear a bit about your coming out journey and what 444 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: that was like for you. 445 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: I kind of came out when I was like eighteen, 446 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: and once I got to LA it was like I 447 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: remember like being at like some house party and just 448 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: talking to someone and this guy was like, oh, and 449 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: you're gay, right, And I was like, froze and I 450 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: was like yes, and he's like, okay, cool, and just 451 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 3: I kept going. 452 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh wait, it's not like a thing here. 453 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 454 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: Because I grew up in Arkansas, and you know I 455 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, I got like very involved in like my 456 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 3: church youth group when I was in high school, and 457 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: so that whole process was just kind of a nightmare 458 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: for me personally. So then I'd been like out for 459 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: you know, my entire adult life, and then professionally, I'd 460 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: never really thought too much about it until I was 461 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: doing the testing process for Your Honor and the show 462 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: on Showtime, and I remember like, as we were gearing 463 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: up for the network test, which is like the final 464 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: audition stage for people that don't know and you have 465 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: to go in, and like I was going to read 466 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: with Brian and all of the executives from CBS and 467 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: Showtime We're going to be there, and the producers and writers. 468 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: Of the show. 469 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: And so as we were gearing up for that, I 470 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 3: remember like coming through my social media and archiving stuff 471 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: with that had me and Fielder in it together, or 472 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: like anything that I had like was like obvious I 473 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: was gay. 474 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: It was on my page or even accounts I was following, because. 475 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, I just don't want there to 476 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: be any element of them being like, why does Adam's 477 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: not gay? So can Hunter really do that? Because I 478 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: mean I was a total nobody going up for this, 479 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: you know, role opposite Brian Cranston. There's so many things 480 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: already against me. And then it was kind of awful 481 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: once I got it, because once I got to set, 482 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: I like had to come out again. 483 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: It was like people didn't know, oh, and that was 484 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: just felt so uncomfortable to be like, I don't know, 485 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: doing that for like the first time in like seven 486 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: eight years and making it for it to like feel 487 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: like that again and too like, you know, everyone on 488 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: that show is credit. 489 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: Like I remember I was talking to Peter Moffatt about 490 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: all this, who was the show runner of the show, 491 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: and he was just like gutted and like heartbroken to 492 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: like learned that I had done that, and he was like, 493 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: you know, I wouldn't have mattered, and you know, maybe 494 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: it wouldn't have, but I just like at the time 495 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: didn't know. But then after I went through that experience, 496 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: and then I remember, like my friend Grace came to 497 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 3: visit me and Brian and other people were like, oh, so, 498 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 3: is there something going on between you guys. I was like, 499 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: oh god, I was like, because she came to visit before, 500 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: you know, my boyfriend had come to visit, like, uh so, 501 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: like kind of from that point on, I just decided 502 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: that to me, it wasn't worth it to hide it 503 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: or you know, because that just was such a weird experience. 504 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm sure I'll lose out on 505 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: some opportunities. 506 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: But it's just not worth it to you know, not 507 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: be yourself in that way. 508 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hopeful things are changing. They have changed already, 509 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: but they need to continue to change and I'm hopeful 510 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: they will and that being who you truly are in 511 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: any industry hopefully won't affect people in a negative way. 512 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: And I just I commend you because I know it's 513 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: not always easy and our business. Did you ever feel 514 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: afraid that being out would affect your career and did 515 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: you have any moments where it did? Would you say, Yeah. 516 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: Definitely, I have had moments of being afraid and. 517 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: You know me and it was thinning on your honor 518 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: Lily who played you know, we were a couple on 519 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: the show, and she's also queer, and so you know, 520 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: we would have a lot of conversations about it and 521 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: just like you know, wondering if you know, maybe not 522 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: hide it, but should we just like not be so 523 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: open about it, just like you know, should Instagram just 524 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: be professional stuff for I don't know. So there was 525 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: definitely a fear to it, and then I'm sure it 526 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: has affected stuff, but that's like kind of the I 527 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 3: would never hear about that, you know, I would never 528 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 3: know which jobs I lost out on because of it, 529 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: because I think people are smart enough to not say 530 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 3: this is the reason why. But yeah, I don't don't know. 531 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: I love that it's worth it for you to live 532 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: as your authentic self in an industry while pursuing your 533 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: dreams than it is to maybe achieve a dream that 534 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: you have at the cost of being who you really are. 535 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, because I you know, I told you 536 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: that story. I basically did that and it felt horrible. 537 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's such a great example for so 538 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: many people who are listening today and for our youth 539 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: right who were wondering, oh, should I be coming out 540 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: or is that going to affect me negatively? I think 541 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: when we see people like you, I think you think, oh, man, well, 542 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: if Hunter's doing it. Yeah, it might not always be easy, 543 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: but I can have a career and a dream job 544 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: that I want one day, you know. Yeah. 545 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: I mean there's so many other like actors that did 546 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: it before me in a much harder time that made 547 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: it possible. So so grateful for those actors like I mean, 548 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: like Neil Patrick. Harris always stands out in my head 549 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: because you know, he played like, you know, a womanizer 550 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: and was also this out proud gay man. 551 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very possible to be who you are and work. 552 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: And I think that the more we have stories like 553 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: yours and see people like you the more that we're 554 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: moving in the right direction, it's about damn time. As 555 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: Lizo says, right. 556 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: What's frustrating is like, you know, a street man plays 557 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: a gay part and people were almost like, how did 558 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: he do it? Let's give him an award, and then 559 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 3: like when it's vice versa, it's like, one, if we 560 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: let you do it, and two you're like, well, you're 561 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: expected to be able to do it that way. 562 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that. I know a lot 563 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: of people have very different opinions. What do you think 564 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: about the idea of you know, straightenman being cast to 565 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: play queer I. 566 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: Think, like at a foundational level, like it is acting, 567 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: and I don't want it to get to a point 568 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: where you can only play exactly what you are in 569 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: real life. That's boring and that's not what it's supposed 570 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: to be. And people have said this in a much 571 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: more eloquent way than I'll be able to say it. 572 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: But I think it just comes down to like opportunities, 573 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: and you know, I think we've like really seen it 574 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: come to a better place now, especially for like trans roles. 575 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: I think you know nowadays you'd be insane to take 576 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: a trans role where that's something that could have happened, like, 577 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 3: you know, not even ten years ago, but it was 578 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: because you know, transactors were not getting those opportunities to 579 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: you can, tell their own stories and you know definitely 580 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: not to you know, tell us his story. And I think, 581 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think that straight actors like shouldn't 582 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: be able to play a game, but I'd like it to. 583 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: Go the other way more too. 584 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, people want also authentic stories, 585 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: you know, more of them where queer actors are telling 586 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: queer stories. So I don't know, is that a cop 587 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: out answer? 588 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, I think what you're saying is you just 589 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: want a seat at the table. Like, you know, straight 590 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: actors get to play all these different roles. You just 591 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: want queer people to have a seat at the table 592 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: as well. I think it's fare, you know. 593 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm just going to continue going 594 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: out trying to steal all the other straight roles I can. 595 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: Let's go, I'm ready for you in like a Marvel 596 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: superhero movie. Come on, let's go. 597 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. I'm down. 598 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: I love that. So Hunter, I'm very interested in the 599 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: idea and the conversation around mental health. I think it's 600 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: super important and I'm glad we're finally talking more about 601 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: it as a society. You know, on a personal level, 602 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: I lost a friend early last year to a mental 603 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: health struggle, and I just I'm making an effort to 604 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: bring this topic up more in my conversations with people, 605 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: because you just never know who's listening and who can 606 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: feel seen or helped by a conversation like this, and 607 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: with somebody like you who's on such a public platform. 608 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: And yes, you receive so much praise and so many 609 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: people just adore you and now follow you obviously through 610 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: your growing social media channels. But with that obviously comes 611 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: trolls and the keyboard warriors who hide behind and say 612 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: awful things to all of us. We've all received it 613 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: and gotten it. How do you, on a personal level 614 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: deal with those comments when they come up? Talk to 615 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: me about your relationship with kind of tuning out the negative. 616 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm so sorry about your friend. It 617 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: does affect me. It's really horrible. Some of the things 618 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: like people will say and like can so casually just 619 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, come on to another humans page and throw 620 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: out there is like baffling to me. But I also 621 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: have to remember, like it's like people like yes for 622 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: better or worse. You know, they wouldn't say that stuff 623 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: to you in real life or most of the time. 624 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: I think the last time we talked to I like 625 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: told you I had to like limit comments on my 626 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: Instagram because it was affecting me because I couldn't understand why, 627 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: you know, I was posting about the show, and you know, 628 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: at the time, like you know, those posts would get 629 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: like two thousand comments, but then my wedding photos from 630 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: six months ago had eight thousand comments, and it was 631 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: people like fighting in the comments and and a lot 632 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: of like support, but then just so much like just horrible, 633 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: like ugly hatred, and like at first I would like 634 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: see stuff pop up and i'd like just try to 635 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: like delete a comment when I like happened to see 636 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 3: it pop up, and like the stream of notifications. 637 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: But then I went and like actually. 638 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: Clicked on it and was like scrolling through and there's 639 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: just so much awful stuff in there that couldn't keep 640 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: up with, that couldn't like I didn't want to put 641 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: that much energy into it, and I couldn't keep up 642 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: if I did want to, And so I you know, 643 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: I limited it to just at least people who follow me, 644 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: so I was like, Okay, you have to at least 645 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: want to be here. And I still get some comments 646 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: like that that people are taking that extra step to 647 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: follow me, and then I'm sure commisling awful and then 648 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: unfollow me. But yeah, I don't know. I like, you know, 649 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: I personally tried to, you know, set that boundary, but 650 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: it does affect you. 651 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: I don't I think it would be hard not to. 652 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: I always say the real world matters, right, because we 653 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: forget sometimes especially the fandom is amazing and they get 654 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: so passionate about the projects like Wednesday and and you know, 655 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: whatever shows or movies they watch. But sometimes you have 656 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: to remind everybody like you're playing a character. It's not 657 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: who you are and you're not Tyler. Have you found 658 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: that distinction one that you've had to kind of make 659 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: more and more as the popularity of the show goes on. 660 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: You know, the actual like fans of the show are 661 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 3: amazing and like, I think get that, and they engage 662 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: with all of us in what seems to me like 663 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 3: a really fun way, and especially like the younger fans 664 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: of the show, it's so cool for me to see 665 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 3: like there's this whole like online campaign called like wind 666 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: Clear because they want Wednesday to be with her roommate 667 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: in Instintclair and so that's like their ship name. But 668 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: like for me, I was like, oh my god, this 669 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: is like the great irony of my life that I'm 670 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: kind of getting, you know, in a fun way, trolled 671 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 3: for being in the way of a gay relationship. 672 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. 673 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: There's like the is just so cool and fun and 674 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 3: I love the thin you know, these like you know teenagers. 675 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: Are like no more gay. 676 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you. It's something I've noticed with the 677 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: show as well. I've interviewed a lot of people from 678 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: any different shows, and the fandom around Wednesday seems incredible. 679 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Wait a minut I've got to ask you now, So, 680 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: aside from Tyler being a little a little bit crazy, 681 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: aside from that, who would you be interested in seeing 682 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: your character get in a relationship with on the show? Anyone, 683 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: any any demoned werewolf, man, woman, anything in between, whatever. 684 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: Who would Tyler ship? Who would you like to see? 685 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I don't know. I mean I really want 686 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 3: to explore, like what is real between Wednesday and Tyler, 687 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 3: because you know on her end, she really fully you know, 688 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: fell for it and for him, and I think that 689 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: there was an initial, like genuine attraction between them because 690 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: when they first meet, he doesn't know who she is, 691 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: and it's like, I think, interested in her. And then 692 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: I think that there's like this like you know, sexual 693 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: kind of compatibility or like you know, flirtiness, the fact 694 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: that they like can kind of like go at each 695 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: other at the like same level with like their digs, 696 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: and also like yeah, just the way they like interact 697 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: in that way. I think like they both like rise 698 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: to the challenge of each other, which is fun. I 699 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: don't know. I guess I haven't spent too much time 700 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: thinking about like who else in the show Tyler could 701 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 3: end up with. Like, to me, that's that's pretty far 702 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: from what I was thinking about. 703 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, I gave you something to think about, now, yeah, 704 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: you can come back to me with that. What is 705 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: something you can and tell me about that you're working 706 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: on just for yourself? 707 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: And I think for me, it's like this probably goes 708 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 3: back to like social media stuff too, But like I 709 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: wish I didn't spend so much time and energy thinking 710 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: about like like looks and like like my body and 711 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 3: like just like my relationship to like, you know, food 712 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: and stuff. I think it's almost impossible to kind of 713 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: like be in this industry in that not to like 714 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: be in your head all the time. And I know 715 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 3: that's like a thing for you know, a lot of 716 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 3: people not in the actors or in front of the 717 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: camera in any since. So I think it's cool that 718 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: people are like talking about that more now, but I 719 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 3: still haven't found a way for me yet to get 720 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: to where I want to be with like how I 721 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: feel about all that stuff. 722 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: So you're trying to find a better or a more 723 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: positive way to kind of, you know, deal with how 724 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: you view your body, is what you're saying. Definitely, do 725 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: you feel that you put a lot of the pressure 726 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: on yourself or do you feel like through your work 727 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: that's added pressure as well. 728 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 2: Both, there's definitely an added pressure of like. 729 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: It being like stuff like you know, being recorded or 730 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: being photographed or being on camera. 731 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: But then like if I'm actually taking a step. 732 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 3: Back, like the only criticism I'm really hearing is from 733 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: inside my own head, yeah, which is insane. 734 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you hear that voice, which we all have, 735 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: how do you kind of quiet it and carry on 736 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: in a way that it doesn't cripple you and you 737 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: know cause you to just have a terrible rest of 738 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: your day or week. 739 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: I think that's kind of what I'm trying to work 740 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: on and figure out, is how to quiet it more. 741 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of stuff. Anyone just a felt 742 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: like being like grateful for your body and like I 743 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 3: try to like think about you know, even like working 744 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: out as like something like more about like what your 745 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: body like can do and being grateful for that. Like. 746 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: But one thing that specifically helped me is actually I 747 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: lost my dad a few years ago. 748 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: He passed away because he had als and he was 749 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 3: like a tennis player and like he played professionally and 750 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 3: then like he taught tennis all of my like childhood 751 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: growing up, and so then to see him like lose 752 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 3: control of his body and like you know, fully be 753 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 3: there in his mind, but then his body is like 754 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 3: totally fail him. 755 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: Like that was like a big kind of awakening moment 756 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: for me. 757 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, Alice is about so much more 758 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 3: than just you know, how I look in the mirror. 759 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, that's that's powerful. I'm sure watching that could 760 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: not have been easy for you. 761 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 3: No, I was, Uh, it was really difficult, especially just 762 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 3: for to be him and like you know, all my 763 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 3: memories of him or him being so active in running 764 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: around and yeah, that was the hardest thing I've ever 765 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 3: had to go through. 766 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that, and also for talking 767 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: about the layer that you would take off and work on. 768 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: I think that we don't talk enough about in our 769 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: society the struggles that nailes have with body image. And 770 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: it's very real and I've discussed this with many people before, 771 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: and I think that just in a way that a 772 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: lot of women have talked to me about feeling the 773 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: pressures of being super thin or having the curves or 774 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. I think there is also a 775 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on men to look a certain way sometimes, 776 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,479 Speaker 1: and I think we need to as a society work 777 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: on not commenting on people's bodies. Yeah, like whether you're 778 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: athletic or not athletic, or whatever the case may be. Like, 779 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: let's just let people be. And if you're close to 780 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: a friend, of course that's different. But in general, like, 781 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable when people talk about that with me. 782 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: It's just weird. I don't want the compliment. I just 783 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: rather you talk to me and let's talk about other things, right, 784 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: It's just it's awkward. Yeah, And I feel like you 785 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: feel the same way, and I think a lot of 786 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: people feel that way, like let's just focus on things 787 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: that matter. So I appreciate that you're putting it out there. 788 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people listening today also have 789 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: the same struggle, no matter who they are. And I think, 790 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: knowing that this seemingly together and perfect guy, that many 791 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: people will look at you and think because of your success, right, 792 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: which can be deceiving, but they think success means you're 793 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: okay and you're perfect and everything's great, right, right, you 794 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: also have struggles that everybody else has, So thank you 795 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: for that. I hope you enjoyed your experience. 796 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 797 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: I always enjoyed talking to you. Thanks for having me on. 798 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: This was so much fun. Hunter. I am such a 799 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: fan of you personally and professionally, and I'm excited to 800 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: see where season two takes you with everything, and I'm 801 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: glad we could deep dive into the show and then 802 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: talk about some other fun things. So I have a 803 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: feeling i'll be chatting with you again when season two 804 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: finally comes out. Yeah, that'd be great, all right, we'll 805 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: be well, and thank you so much, and I'm glad. 806 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: And wait, you didn't give me the finger like your childhood. 807 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 3: Picture, did, Julie. 808 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I need one at this point, 809 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: I need one. There we go. Yes, Yes, I've never 810 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: said this before. Is hosted by me, Tommy Dederio. This 811 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: podcast is produced and edited by Mike Coscarelli, and executive 812 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: producers are Andrew Piglisi and Katrino Norbel at iHeartRadio I've 813 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before. It is part of the Elvis 814 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: Durant podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. 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